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Are We Blocking Connection When We Freeze Our Face? A Conversation with Cathy Goldstein · Truth Talks with Kelly Mason

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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Truth Talks.
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I'm so excited today because we have Kathy Goldstein on and she
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is a phenomenal trailblazer in this area of expression, skin
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care and all about truth. Kathy, welcome.
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And please just tell our listeners a little bit about
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yourself. OK, great.
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Well, thank you for having me on.
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It's an absolute honor and I'm excited to see what we impact
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today. So just a little bit of like my
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background because every platform gives me an opportunity
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to really kind of speak to a different perspective, a
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different angle, a different energy.
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So in general, really my background is I'm by trade and
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acupuncturist and acupuncture position and I specialize in
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integrative medicine. And over the years, I really
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started shifting with that energy medicine and really
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incorporating that deeper kind of dive into emotions and
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emotional patterns and how that affects our neuro emotional, our
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brain, the biology, the communication and how that
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actually shapes aging. And really that paradigm into
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the messaging that we're getting from social media and from some
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pretty large industries, beauty industries.
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A message that just doesn't resonate for, I think me and for
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a lot of people, which is that as we age, we're not actually
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getting older, we're getting better.
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You know, we're actually in this space of not wanting to erase
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our emotions, not wanting to freeze our face and become
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disconnected. So my deep dive really kind of
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came into what are the muscles of the face for and how do they
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integrate with the brain? And so that just became that
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deeper conversation about, you know, 90% of our communication
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is non verbal. What does that actually mean?
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And why is our face different than everything else in our body
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when it comes to aging, when it comes to emotions, when it comes
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to expression, Right. And going into that energy
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medicine, subtle energy fields, how to change them in a growth
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and a freedom kind of way rather than a freezing kind of way.
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Amazing. That is really a big topic
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because there are a lot of us that love to look younger as we
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get older, even though you're saying we get better and, you
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know, we want to hold on to that youth.
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And I'm guilty of that. And but what's important is that
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the biology of it and what you have studied is the psychology
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that connects that biology. And so let's hear a little bit
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more about that. Yeah, so one is you're actually
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right, and I am absolutely guilty of that.
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I want to age gracefully. I want to age timelessly, right.
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So it's about like bringing out our best.
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And what happens, and especially as we age, is that the muscles
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of the face on the are very different than the muscles of
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the body. The muscles of the body are the
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heavy lift, right? The emotions are the muscles of
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the face. It's all about emotions.
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It's all about interconnection. So no one goes through this
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lifetime unscathed, right? So all of those emotions get
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stuck on our face in a very sometimes visible way.
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And as we age, those become more predominant, but they don't have
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to. It's about learning how to
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release them. But there's multiple reasons why
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it's really important that we do have those muscles of the face
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and the expressions and things like that.
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Is is because of that 90% unconscious communication and
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connectivity that we have comes from our ability to micro mirror
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facial expressions with each other.
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And all of those micro neuron expressions are go right back to
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that limbic brain. And they say, oh, this is what
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that person is talking about. This is how they feel.
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This is why I have like a trigger.
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Am I safe? Am I not safe?
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I'm going to say, do I like this person or not?
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But it's not really a like, do I still safe around this person?
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Those are all things that we register through being able to
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create muscle expressions on our face that our brain takes
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information from. So when we bring it forward for
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decision making, we make decisions based on that.
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I love that there's a mind body connection and that's what we
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teach in our Academy. And how are we allowing our
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experience to affect us? And when we strain the muscles
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on our face, that's an energy output, right?
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But when we can just detach, have compassion, allow we relax
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those muscles. And that reminds me of the movie
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about the nanny. And she enters the picture as a
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very ugly kind of person. And as she goes on with her
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teachings, she becomes more beautiful because she's
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portraying guidance in a healthy way to discipline the children,
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right? Right.
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By the end of the movie, she's this young, beautiful woman
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again. So you know, what's really
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interesting about that is that we have our experience of that
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movie, but the truth is, is it's how the children perceive her.
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So it's the perception. And it falls totally into that
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space of you can meet someone and have kind of a neutral
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conversation, but as you get to know them, you feel love for
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them. You feel something in your heart
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for that person that comes from really those quirky facial
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expressions, those things that really connect us as human
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beings that we crave. We crave that connectivity.
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Yeah, I love that. I remember when I was working on
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ATV series called Eng back in the day, that's when like the
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Days of the Hitchhiker and War of the Worlds and Oh yeah, my
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secret identity. And there was an actress on Eng.
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She was the lead actress Sarah Botsford, and she was so good at
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the eyebrow lift like that was that was her.
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Like we would know what she was thinking and what was happening
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in her body and in her mind because she'd end the scene the
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close up with the eyebrow. Lift right, right, right.
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So, you know, when you think about directors like yourself
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and you're thinking, who do I want to put in this role, You're
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going to want the person who can convey emotions without words.
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Because, you know, like I was watching a movie, I don't
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remember what it was and I think it actually, believe it or not,
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was Tom Cruise. And there literally was 3045
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seconds, which I was a long time of him having facial expression
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and changing those facial expressions to drive a
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conversation that had no words. But you knew exactly what the
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messaging was based on his facial expressions.
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What's going to happen if we don't have that?
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I just got chills that just ran right through my body.
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Because it's true, right? We are cutting ourselves off
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from the opportunity not only to communicate with our truth and
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our authenticity for others, but also for ourselves.
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Right there is in that full complete connection with the
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limbic nerves like you had mentioned.
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So what do you, where are you going with this?
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Yeah. Well, so I think what's
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important is for people to know, like how does this show up in my
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life, right? Because the pressure is really
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significant if you think about the different places in life
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where it shows up. And I think that's like
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connectivity and also just understanding like, how does
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that show up in life, right? And one of the places I'd like
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to talk about with that is it mom's.
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A mom's job is to help those cells, those nerve cells in the
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development of the brain of their teenagers to understand
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accurately emotions and to read them accurately and to know how
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to respond to them accurately. That's emotional intelligence.
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Yes. So, right, so if they're unable
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to mimic because that mom's got a frozen face, the child
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actually on a 3D MRI, when you show videos of them watching
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people like social media with completely frozen faces, it
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actually fires up their limbic brain, especially the amygdala
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as them being under severe stress, like danger stress.
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And my interpretation of that is that they don't know how to
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interpret how mom is feeling. So they become really anxious.
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And that is like mental, mental health is huge with teenagers.
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And because we don't actually develop those nerves until we're
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21 as a as a female, 25 as a male, approximately, those teens
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are in their crucial ages. They often don't interpret
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emotions accurately by facial expressions.
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What's going to happen, right? Wow.
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No, for sure, absolutely. So the teens these days are up
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against enough challenge with social media.
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I mean, I was talking to my son yesterday and he said, mom,
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like, I just really enjoy having conversations with girls.
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Like, I like to talk because I've, you know, he's grown up
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with a single mother and a sister, so he says.
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I just kind of find it easier because you've taught me how to
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have these conversations, he said.
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But my friends will then make fun of me and say I'm chirping,
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and that's like, a bad thing. What are you doing spending so
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much time talking to this girl? You, you know, we do it all
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through the phone or whatever. And I'm just laying out that as
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an example of the challenge that the teens are having with
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communication, let alone, we don't want that to happen in the
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home. The home, the mother, the
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parent, the caregiver is the lifesaver, is the leader.
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It's the guide, It's the life basically.
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And yes, of course, I'm very passionate about this and about
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parenting and healthy parenting and allowing the children to see
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you at your lowest. Like, I'm really sad right now.
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I'm going to cry. I've been there and my kids will
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just when they were much younger, come and just be
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present for me because that's what I've done for them.
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I don't say forget about it, don't worry about it.
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No, we stay with them and we're compassionate and we give them
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our presence and the space they need to process the emotion and
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to feel safe that emotion. So that is so incredible that
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you are bringing this to our listeners and our viewers
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because this is a subject that is not talked about that I have
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ever heard people say. You know what?
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Actually, it's important that you can express yourself through
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expression, facial expression. So tell us about True Energy and
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like what does your brand and how do you help?
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Yeah, it's a funny story because I have a true energy natural
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facelift system, right? And so my trade is in
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acupuncture and acupuncture position.
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I got into that because I was really, really sick in the
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hospital, 3 months, almost died, you know that trauma.
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And so all of the patients I had, I were really sick
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patients, autoimmune. I was their last chance kind of
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opportunity. And then here at 50, I found
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myself in the beauty industry. I was really kind of baffling
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for me because it's not really my vibe.
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But what happened was I found myself at 49 inadvertently
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catching myself in the mirror and went, what am I looking at?
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Not even just for vanity, but because there was a
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disconnection on how I felt and how I looked, and that's what
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drove me down that path to go. What is going on?
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And like you said, we want to age well.
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We want to age gracefully. We're not going to turn up the
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clock just because of menopause or whatever.
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So it was really just finding that ability to be able to put
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tools in people's hands that would release the muscles that
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were holding on to old traumas, essentially, because the muscles
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of the face. Absolutely show all of our
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traumas. I call this lifes
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disappointments around the mouth and the chin, right?
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And then the divorce lines between the eyebrows, right?
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The things that we hold on to, like anger and resentment, those
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are all the things that show up between our eyebrows and on our
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forehead. And those muscle expressions are
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natural. I'm very expressive, like I
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squinch my eyebrows together, I lift my eyebrows, I frown.
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But it's the rebound. They should be able to rebound.
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So it's by releasing those underlying tissues because the
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skins not just superficial, it's an entire system, right?
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We just talked about like the nervous system connection, but
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it's also the fascia and the lymphatic system and the muscles
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that also need releasing so that they can spring back, if you
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will, to that youthful, more resilient skin super on a super
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that shows up on a superficial level.
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But it's the truth, right? That this this reveals all.
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Yeah, I just recently looked at some wedding pictures from my
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wedding and I had some Botox done before the day and it was
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almost like a letting letting myself down in a way because I
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saw how my eyes were shaped differently.
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And I wish that I didn't do that now because I would have just
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loved to have seen my authentic Kelly and my authentic joy and
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the way that I am made my natural way.
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And that just like a small example of how we can move
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through life thinking, OK, I'm going to get this done because I
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have an event. And then we can look back and
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have a little bit of regret around, OK, I made that
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decision. Why?
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Oh, so I mean, there's just so many levels where it affects us
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emotionally as well as physically, as well as our
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family. And then as we go out into the
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world where there were speakers or whatever, we want to always
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just come with our authentic self.
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So how would you guide our listeners and our viewers to
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gain some courage around just being your authentic self?
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Well, first of all, I really feel like I'm seeing the
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paradigm shift. I feel like if you're a woman
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and you're maybe back in the dating because you're divorced
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or whatever, men want women who are authentic and transparent
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and have facial expressions. And yes, there are men who want
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their women to look and stay, you know, 20 to 30 years old.
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But is that really the guy you want?
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It's not the guy you're going to connect with, right?
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So some of it is a matter of understanding our choices and
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what we really want to connect to in our life and what are the
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types of relationships that we want, right?
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Because there's a lot of pressure.
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There's a lot of outward pressure for doing procedures,
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doing minimally invasive as they're called, procedures which
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are the injections and fillers and things like that.
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But what I can say about that is, is that one, even if we have
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chosen to do that, even if someone who's listening to this
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has chosen to do that and just has this gut feeling that that's
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just not the direction they want to stay in, it's never too late.
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It's never, never too late to reverse that, to repair and then
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to reconnect with people, right? So I think that it's also
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knowing, as you would know yourself, the person that you
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feel the most compassion, the most love, the most endearment
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is someone who is actually able to show their emotions.
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And I think that if we hold on to relationships like that and
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we bond as a culture, not a fad, not a trend, but as a what
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direction are we going and what are we telling and what are we
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telling our kids? And what's our message that it's
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about standing strong in the message of authenticity and
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resilience, because resilience has to do with brain function
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and you know that emotional intelligence.
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So resilience is very much on the top of that.
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And also knowing that you, if you're at the top of your game,
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you're at the top of your game in your best version, when you
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can interpret other people and navigate conversations, navigate
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a pitch, navigate a direction, whether it's as a thought leader
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or as an influencer, that you're way more powerful when you can
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navigate that through authentic emotional expressions.
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Yeah, love it. So I was at an event the other
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night and all these beautiful people were there lot there was
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a table full of gorgeous men. So of course I went and sat down
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at that table and one of the guys turned to me and he said,
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wow, thank you so much. I said for what?
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And he said for just being your authentic self, for being
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natural. And he meant not having any work
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done. And it was so interesting that
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that's the first thing, right? Because, yeah, men are looking
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for that natural connection that way, to be able to trust their
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partner to know that what they're seeing is their real
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emotion is who they really are. And I thought, wow, I loved
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that. He appreciated that.
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And that's the type of man that I want to be with, right?
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That's the deeper question, right?
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Or the deeper perspective or the deeper understanding.
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It's like, yeah, that's who I want to be with, someone who I
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can have a relationship that's transparent because there is no
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transparency when you can't understand someone's emotions
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through facial expressions. Right, we do have to consider
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this. And the next time we look in the
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mirror and we say, OK, maybe the lines are coming back or
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whatever, OK, I'm going to. I'm looking older than I
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actually could look if I had this done.
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But what is this costing me? And what am I blocking by doing
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this? Because maybe I'm blocking
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myself from having that connection that I've been
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yearning for so long from meeting that person I want to be
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my life partner. Maybe this is all somehow
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connected energetically. Maybe the universe is trying to
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teach me, OK, I don't need to do this anymore.
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I can just be me because that's who I meant to be.
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So I think that's the ultimate perspective on truth talks.
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What is the truth here? Are we blocking ourselves?
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Maybe we're not, but maybe we are.
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Yeah. That's a big thing to consider.
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Yeah. Well, I think you kind of hit
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the nail on the head when you said this isn't something that
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we talked about. This is a topic that is
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definitely a little bit disruptive because it's a
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conversation we don't have. But the science behind it is not
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a question here. The science behind it is an
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absolute truth that we are limiting our connectivity when
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we freeze our facial muscles. And that's even without going
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into we're talking Botox, just Botox go down the nerve.
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I could go into that whole area just on a Physiology biological
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way, but I think honestly, we've all known that Botox is a toxin
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and that we're taking a risk when we use a toxin on our face.
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But when we can really identify why it matters that we are able
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to make those facial expressions, I think this is
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where it really hits in a community kind of way more than
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just a personal way. Yeah, for sure.
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And so I love that you are a facilitator of natural
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facelifts. So do you want to tell us a
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little bit about that and how that works?
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Sure. So it's a lot of fun to talk
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about and we're definitely going kind of another lane because
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I've taken all my background and subtle energy field in science
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of frequencies and things like that.
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So I've imprinted the wands that I used and there's a little
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green bead in all of the products.
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And so I've used imprinting of those subtle energy fields to be
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able to heal and release and build collagen naturally.
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So I actually did a third party study with Doctor Piccoli say,
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and, and he actually called me after 15 days and he's like, I
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have no idea how you're getting these results.
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These women look like they've had mini facelifts after just 15
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days. And I'm like, yes, I can put it
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in people's hands and they can get the results they're looking
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for, but it's very systematic. It's not arbitrary.
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It's definitely again, based in science, based on replica being
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being able to replicate it, which is, you know, the whole
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conversation about subtle energy fields is that can we influence
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the body through subtle energy fields and can we replicate it.
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And this was my goal when I created this, is that I'd be
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able to imprint those frequencies put in the hands of
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the public without me doing the protocol on them and be able to
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get results. And that's where I've been.
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And so the concept is very straightforward.
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It's about detoxing first, releasing second, and then
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lifting third, because we only try to lift and relax those
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muscles, but we actually have to release them on a much deeper
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level. And that's why the imprinting of
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the frequencies is so important is because it's not a
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superficial treatment. It's like what happens on an
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underlying level? What are the cells that come to
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the surface of the skin? That's why the products were
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really important to me as far as not just ingredients, but
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natural active ingredients that are what I call functional skin
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care, like functional aesthetics, functional medicine.
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So they are teaching ourselves to do something that they can do
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on their own. So an example of that is you
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can't take a large collagen molecule, put it in your face
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and have your skin expect to do anything with it.
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It's generally much too large. It's already at its end point.
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It doesn't really know how to integrate it.
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What's important is we give those nutrients that tell the
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cell how to produce its own collagen and that makes it
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functional skin care. And that's my baseline
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underlying theory is that bio adaptive, moving with your face,
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moving with your energy, moving with your cells to create the
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outcome that you want, which is aging gracefully, aging
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well-being able to release those muscles.
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I mean, I'm 65, I can tell you 49.
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I wasn't feeling that good about all these places on my face that
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were holding on to all that trauma.
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Well, you look beautiful and you don't look 65.
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You're gorgeous. But I can tell you something.
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I agree with you. I get what you're saying because
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I'm an energy healer. I had a very serious accident.
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That's how I came into this power.
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We understand that it's all about the intention and then
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moving out of the way and getting into that frequency that
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can deliver results. And So what you've done is you
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have done that with your products is get into that
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frequency that can teach the cell and you've given it the
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directive. That's the same with my mom.
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She had a fall the other day. God bless her.
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I know she fainted and she kind of hit chest 1st and so I called
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her up and I said, mom, I'm going to do a quick scan on you
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and I could feel we're on the left side of her neck.
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That's out a little bit. So went in and did that healing.
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So I transferred that information from the energy into
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her neck because they showed me the pathway when I say they
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whatever it is that is giving us this life, right In that
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instance, she said, oh, the pain's gone.
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My gosh. How did you do that?
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Beautiful, Kelly. And as I get older, that is all
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becoming more powerful, which is fascinating for me as Kelly, to
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experience because I'm skeptical even of my own stuff.
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So that's why every time I do a session with a client and I'll
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recall exactly what happened in their childhood or whatever that
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is, and they'll say, how do you know I got that bike?
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And what the color of the bike was that my dad gave it to me,
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I'll be like, I don't know. But that's.
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Cool. Clear Channel, Yeah.
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Same with, I think Kathy, what you're doing with these products
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is your consumer might be like, I don't know how this is
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happening and how this is possible, but it's working.
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And it truly is the power of that energy exchange.
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Because the science again, coming back to quantum physics
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and the way the cell works is through information.
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We will feed it the information. That's how we are creators.
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That's how we are healers because we are being fed the
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information from the divine, whether it's coming through
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another person or an animal or a beautiful rose or whatever that
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messenger is that is entering into our quanta to then
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coordinate the thought and the next step or the resource or
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whatever that miracle is that happens.
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And this is happening in every second of our lives, which is
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really we are living these miracles through the quanta,
26:20
through the cell. Right.
26:22
Yes, absolutely. You're doing.
26:25
Yeah, absolutely. And I think acupuncture probably
26:28
really helped me to develop that sensitivity.
26:31
Like a lot of people, I've had my own experiences in kind of
26:35
mind control from childhood. But the other is in Chinese
26:39
medicine, acupuncture, and what we have loosely interpret the
26:43
idea of Qi as energy is so far from what it really is.
26:47
It's an information highway and it goes way beyond the
26:50
meridians. It's how we connect with each
26:52
other, and it's that subtle energy field that just explodes
26:55
into the universe and intertwines us.
26:59
And the truth is that we can communicate with deceased, with
27:06
other beings from other planets. We have that access because once
27:10
we understand that highway and that Channel, that frequency to
27:17
tune into, to listen to, to feel and, and help others.
27:23
And I think this is the new paradigm of healing.
27:28
It's fascinating. And as creative beings, we can
27:32
heal ourselves. So if you're suffering from any
27:37
kind of chronic illness, chronic pain, it's truly your energy
27:42
that needs to be restructured or removed into when we say
27:47
removed, so shifted out light comes back in.
27:51
So you use the light. This is one of the keys to being
27:55
a powerful healer for yourself is you use the light.
27:58
And if you can't imagine it, you can just call it in and just
28:00
say, I'm bringing in golden light into my heart area.
28:03
My heart feels broken. I've gone through a divorce or
28:06
I'm bringing in the light to my wrist.
28:09
I, I hurt my wrist today, whatever that is and is that
28:14
light. I love telling stories on my
28:15
podcast. I love sharing with my audience
28:17
these stories. When I fell off of a
28:20
thoroughbred racehorse going full gallop on the beach, I was
28:24
upside down, so my elbow hit first and it snapped.
28:29
So my arm snapped off at the base of the ball joint and
28:34
landed on my back. And then I, when I hit, first of
28:38
all, I was slowed down by a force.
28:41
And this is something else everyone to comment on.
28:43
If you've had the experience of feeling the divine actually save
28:47
you. I felt the energy of something
28:50
slow me down right before I hit because otherwise I think I
28:53
would have been killed, right? And so when I went over to the
28:57
other side, it was incredible. It was beautiful.
29:01
I just felt pure love. I was in peace.
29:05
There was nothing, but my consciousness was still there.
29:08
My consciousness is like, oh, I wonder if I've died.
29:13
Yeah, yeah. Needing to listen to those
29:17
thoughts or those that consciousness.
29:19
And then after a little while, I heard my breath in the distance
29:23
and then it started to get louder and I was like, I think
29:26
that's my breath, it's coming back.
29:28
And then I opened my eyes and that's when I went through the
29:33
whole protocol of I wonder if I've broken my neck, moved my
29:39
neck side to side then and I was alone on the beach.
29:42
There was nobody with me and I was in an area that was very
29:45
remote. Oh my gosh, Kelly.
29:48
It took me 10 days to get back to medical health.
29:51
Oh my gosh, Kelly. I started dying and it ended my
29:54
vision, so I was dehydrating and then finally when I was found
29:58
and I went out, got on a flight to Miami, I couldn't barely see
30:04
and. All this hilarious and pain.
30:07
Yeah. But the point is, is that during
30:09
those 10 days, the only way that I could get through it and
30:13
through the pain was to bring in light.
30:15
And when I brought in this healing golden light in the arm
30:18
area and the shoulder, the pain went away.
30:22
And so I would do it as much as possible.
30:25
And then when I got on the operating table, the surgeon
30:27
said it's a very bad break. You're going to have to give you
30:31
a prosthetic arm and I said no, fix it because I never once
30:37
thought that I would lose my arm.
30:39
I. Was.
30:41
That I would be healed and after surgery, my surgeon was there
30:45
when I woke up and and he said a miracle happened on the
30:48
operating table. I've never seen anything like
30:50
it, He said. We pulled you in traction the
30:53
first time we pulled you in traction, He said.
30:55
Everything lined up perfectly. We didn't even need to cut, we
31:01
just pinned you back to wow. Documented medical miracle.
31:06
Six months later I was fully healed.
31:09
Nope. Wow.
31:10
Perfect. We are the most powerful healers
31:12
and Kathy is an amazing example of being able to create products
31:18
that do that. And we can all heal ourselves
31:21
and you can help each other. So if there's someone in your
31:24
family, your child, all you have to do is set the command.
31:29
This is what we teach in our Sovereign program at The Academy
31:33
Is when you set your command to heal this person and use then
31:41
your ability to signal the cells, signal the light, signal
31:46
the creator force to do that healing for you.
31:53
Beautiful, beautiful. Obviously an amazing space to
31:56
create that energy and create that healing power.
31:59
That's wonderful, Kelly. Thank you for sharing.
32:03
You're very welcome. It's been 2 decades since that
32:05
happened and I facilitated thousands of healing, just a lot
32:09
of healing since. And it's all because we're here,
32:12
Kathy, to just shine the light on the truth and what the truth
32:16
is and and how we're able to really make a big impact in the
32:19
world because all of us are here on purpose.
32:24
Don't think for a second that I don't know who I am or what I'm
32:27
going to do. And it's OK to think that, but
32:29
know that you'll be LED. Right, right.
32:34
Wonderful. Just to finish off and maybe
32:36
just leave us some inspiration, how were you led to do this
32:42
work? Was it when you looked in the
32:43
mirror at 49 and went away? There's something else?
32:46
Or did you receive a message somehow through the higher
32:49
source? So that that kind of goes back
32:52
to way earlier when a patient came into my clinic, I didn't
32:59
know what this was, but my mouth would open and just words would
33:04
come out of what was going on, where the disconnect was, what
33:07
they needed, how to connect with that person.
33:11
Even on medical terminology, things like that.
33:14
Things would just come out of my mouth that I would be like, I
33:16
never really learned that. I'm not sure where that came
33:18
from. So I was definitely guided.
33:21
I definitely feel like I have guides.
33:23
I actually also ran across a person much later who, you know,
33:28
does see guides. And in my practice that I've had
33:33
people say things like there's an ancient Tibetan woman with
33:36
all of this garb that's always with you.
33:38
And then another person said, no, the room is full of ancient
33:43
healing wisdom. And, and another guy who said,
33:46
you're on this side, you've got two of the masters.
33:50
They don't always show up for everyone, but they're, they're
33:52
there. And one of the best messages
33:55
that he ever gave me was you don't have to do anything
33:59
anymore. Just allow, right.
34:02
And I was like, what a great message.
34:04
What a great message. So when things come to me like
34:08
you were saying, like, how did you get this?
34:10
How did you land that? We live in this conscious world.
34:13
So doubt is part of the conscious world.
34:16
And so it was about checking in on what's resonating, checking
34:20
in on what's my truth, What's the truth?
34:22
Is this even just with the product, you know, because I had
34:26
so many challenges, it's too good to be true.
34:28
I'm shelved for three years and I finally got to the point where
34:32
I would just say to myself, is this it?
34:35
Does this product work and does it solve a problem?
34:39
Yes, yes. OK, Let go of that physical
34:44
negativity and self doubt and challenge and just know I am on
34:48
purpose. And as that unfolded, the
34:52
purpose just became bigger and bigger and bigger.
34:54
And the purpose is really about changing the messaging that we
35:00
get that is really made from a money machine.
35:04
It's like there's a huge money trail in beauty through
35:07
cosmetics. And So what is their intention?
35:09
Is their intention really thinking about you?
35:12
And I just think I'm always a practitioner first.
35:15
And so I just had to follow that truth.
35:18
I love that. And what's so neat is that, and
35:21
I've spoken to our our listeners and our viewers before about
35:24
this. It's all part of the illusion,
35:27
right? The money trail, the prestige,
35:29
the fame, all of that. This is all in place for us to
35:35
help us to get back to our authentic selves, to help us to
35:39
grow and to ascend into the awareness that this is all on
35:46
purpose. So it's not a bad thing.
35:49
But if you are chasing the money and you're comparing yourself or
35:53
this person has as many followers or whatever, you're
35:56
stuck in the swamp. You're not the Lotus flower
36:00
moving above and beyond the swamp of the illusion.
36:04
And the illusion, when I say the illusion, is that we are all in
36:09
the image and likeness of the Creator, meaning we're a
36:12
projection of our creative on this material plane.
36:17
But the point of this world is to play roles for each other, to
36:24
help each other, to leave a legacy of how we have left that
36:30
person or left the family or left the community or the world.
36:35
Have we made it better? Have we brought the information
36:39
needed for them to grow? Because we are taken care of.
36:44
We are led. I teach something at the Academy
36:47
called the trilogy formula where we have our self, our human
36:51
self, our soul, which is our eternal soul that has come back
36:57
into the human self and source which is the partnership with
37:01
the divine, the guide, the leader, the creator, the Co
37:04
creator that is in this with us. So we'll never be forsaken, even
37:10
if we play the role of the homeless person or the drug
37:13
addict or the pedophile, whatever those are.
37:18
Those are roles for us so that we can ascend beyond judgment,
37:24
beyond fear, and realize the truth, realize that we are all
37:30
here for each other to grow and evolve.
37:33
And that's pretty much what it comes down to.
37:36
So. Yeah.
37:36
Well, well said. Well said.
37:38
There's there's nothing to be added to that.
37:42
Well, Kathy, it's been such an honor and a pleasure having you
37:45
on the show. We'll have you back for sure.
37:47
And I'm just going to follow your journey.
37:51
I know that you're going to be in a film soon coming, a couple
37:55
of films I think that you have been in.
37:56
So you know your followers. What we'll do is we'll leave
37:59
some notes for everybody so they know where to find you and where
38:03
to purchase your products. And thank you so much for being
38:07
our guest today. Beautiful.
38:09
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate what you're
38:12
doing, Kelly. You're very welcome.
38:15
All right, bye for now. Bye everyone.