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S5 E10: Cookin' With Hot Grease, Again · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Speaker 1: Fifteen, The Crazy you can see you breath out in
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Speaker 1: would you have to be? And do ron Elvis in
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Speaker 1: the lay Panchow remembers that you need to know I
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Speaker 1: won't you out here?
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Speaker 2: Now?
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Speaker 1: Your family? Where's would you have to be? Where else
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Speaker 1: would you have be?
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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Nickel City Crew. I am your host,
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Speaker 2: Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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Speaker 2: glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo
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Speaker 2: Bills and NFL content again today and as always, these
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Speaker 2: are my Bill's thoughts set out loud.
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Speaker 1: It's a vibe so ridiculous. Two story three six the
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Speaker 1: show where.
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Speaker 2: E's would you want to be? All right, let's get
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Speaker 2: straight to it. Really excited for tonight's episode. We have
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Speaker 2: a surprise episode. DT's got some plans this weekend, so
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Speaker 2: we wanted to get at you guys and make sure
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Speaker 2: that we got our content out. So I really appreciate
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Speaker 2: you guys, being flexible. It is training camp time, so
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Speaker 2: you got to make some adjustments and different things like that.
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Speaker 2: So really excited for tonight's episode. Joining me tonight as
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Speaker 2: Are you p c is eyk holla at the crew DT.
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Speaker 2: We are getting through training camp. Pittsford up there and
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Speaker 2: Saint John Fisher has just concluded the bill. Obviously, keep
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Speaker 2: practicing next week after their preseason game this Saturday. But DT,
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Speaker 2: we are rolling through. I mean it's on the horizon.
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Speaker 2: Like I said last week, we are. We're getting pretty close.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Baltimore will be here Sunday night before you
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Speaker 2: know it, before you know it.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Nicol City, what's up Robs Thursday night tonight. But
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of our listeners will still get
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Speaker 1: us tomorrow. So thanks for having me on again. A
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Speaker 1: pleasure as always. The dog days of summer, it was
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Speaker 1: just the fourth of July, it felt like, and we
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Speaker 1: were gearing up for camp and now on August seventh,
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Speaker 1: what's on September seventh, eight thirty kick against the Ravens.
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Speaker 1: We're gearing on, baby, let's go. It's it's in the air. Preseason,
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Speaker 1: there's there was the Hall of Fame game last week,
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Speaker 1: but preseason kicks off tonight for real, and it's ready, baby,
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Speaker 1: It's within a month. It's gonna come so fast. Summer
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Speaker 1: is always busy. We'll be there eight thirty in exactly
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Speaker 1: thirty days, September seventh. Let's get a rocket.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, let's get it rocking. I am really excited
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Speaker 2: for it. I'm ready for it. And it's a situation where,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's funny because all of the all of
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Speaker 2: the narratives and everything that's been going around with training camp,
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Speaker 2: but everything's pretty much been positive, you know, training camp,
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Speaker 2: great turnout there at Saint John Fisher. The fans came
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Speaker 2: out and supported in a great way like they always do.
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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about hard knocks at the end of
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Speaker 2: the episode. But you know, an interesting situation that we
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Speaker 2: have been monitoring here DT and we kind of talked
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Speaker 2: about it before training camp started, how we thought things
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Speaker 2: would go and different things like that, the James Cook
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Speaker 2: little saga. That's why I named the episode the way
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Speaker 2: that I did Tonight. It's kind of it's hitting a
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Speaker 2: little bit of a crossroads, and I'll explain it the
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Speaker 2: way that it's easiest for me to digest is that
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Speaker 2: I get well. For those who don't know, from Nicol
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Speaker 2: City Group, Bill's Mafia. On earlier in the week, they
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Speaker 2: had said Diana Russini, there was a port from Tom
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Speaker 2: Pallisero that said, listen, these sides are not far apart.
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Speaker 2: They're closer than you think. And because of that, it's
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Speaker 2: a situation where listen, look out this thing to get
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Speaker 2: done sooner than later, because of the fact that the
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Speaker 2: size are not that far apart. Well, in conjunction with that,
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Speaker 2: James Cook he goes ahead and he holds in for
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Speaker 2: the first time. I think he made the first eight
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Speaker 2: practices or something like that. Seven practices he was there
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Speaker 2: for training camp, not losing any money, not even holding
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Speaker 2: in to make sure that he's protected from fines, and
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he sits out DT and
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Speaker 2: he holds in. And it was interesting because had that
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Speaker 2: report not come out, it definitely would have looked weird
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Speaker 2: to me. So from my perspective, when I saw that
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Speaker 2: it was Tom Pallace at our first and then dying
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Speaker 2: recided the next day talking about how James Cook was
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Speaker 2: holding in. I thought that it was a situation where
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Speaker 2: it was signaling the fact that this thing is almost
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Speaker 2: again across in the finished line. We are almost there.
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Speaker 2: It's a situation where, listen, we're close. We're trying to
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Speaker 2: hammer out a few details on guaranteed money, We're trying
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Speaker 2: to hammer out a few details on you know, length,
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Speaker 2: whatever it be, three to four year deal, whatever the
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Speaker 2: case may be. But I really took it as a
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Speaker 2: case where we are really close to getting this thing
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Speaker 2: done and it turns out that there's no deal today.
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Speaker 2: There was no deal right after that report came out,
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Speaker 2: still not a deal. Sean McDermott kind of semi you know,
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Speaker 2: stepped at it today when he talked about how he
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Speaker 2: expected everybody to be at practice, hope that James Cook
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Speaker 2: would be at practice, kind of made it seem like
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Speaker 2: almost kind of made it seem like James was going
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Speaker 2: to be there at practice, and it was a situation
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Speaker 2: dt where you know, he didn't show up again today,
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Speaker 2: it's another holding day. I wanted to kind of go
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Speaker 2: through it because I'm trying to figure out and pinpoint
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Speaker 2: what his what his end goal. Obviously his end goal
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Speaker 2: is to get paid and to get that extension. But
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Speaker 2: with the Kyrine Williams extension earlier in the week, DT
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Speaker 2: I could have swore the holden was in conjunction with
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Speaker 2: this thing getting across the line, and it's it's still
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Speaker 2: not done.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you like to hope that's true, right, You'd
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Speaker 1: like to hope that it's close. Or either they're gonna
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Speaker 1: pay him or they're not. And either way, is he
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Speaker 1: gonna play or he's not. I think he will play.
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Speaker 1: Obviously we talked about that he's not gonna miss game checks.
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Speaker 1: But I saw a pretty funny video and it was
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Speaker 1: like trying to read James Cook this offseason, and it's
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Speaker 1: a guy and it's like it looks like he's about
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Speaker 1: to get on a bike and then he like jumps
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Speaker 1: over the bike and gets in a car and he's
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Speaker 1: going to drive the car, but then he's actually sitting
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Speaker 1: in the back seat and it's like you never know
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Speaker 1: the next move. And that's kind of how it's been.
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Speaker 1: He kind of talked all the cryptic tweets in the
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Speaker 1: off season and you didn't know and then just showed
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Speaker 1: up to mini camp like it was fine and said
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Speaker 1: all the right things and said we're a super Bowl
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Speaker 1: team and I need to be practicing on this team
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Speaker 1: to be, you know, on that way to the super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: And I think he came in and did that due
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Speaker 1: diligence in early camp. And now, you know, I think
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Speaker 1: he must think he's got enough of camp, he's loose enough,
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Speaker 1: and let's get it done and I'll come back a
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Speaker 1: few weeks before the season and ride with you a
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Speaker 1: ten eleven, twelve million dollar man. But it I don't
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Speaker 1: like it. We talked about it, like we got to
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Speaker 1: a point this offseason where we were just like, you
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Speaker 1: don't have to agree about paying running backs, but like,
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Speaker 1: just kind of do this so we don't have to
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Speaker 1: worry about it and that it wasn't an issue. And
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Speaker 1: now it's kind of annoying again. So we'll see here.
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Speaker 1: But I think I think we still, like I said,
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Speaker 1: still got thirty days till we kick, like to see
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Speaker 1: some preseason work from him. You know, he needs those reps.
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Speaker 1: He is holding in though, right, not showing up like
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Speaker 1: he is there.
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Speaker 2: He just is there. Yeah, Brandon Bean, Actually, yeah, Brandon Bean.
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Speaker 2: Excuse me. Sean McDermott actual confirmed that he's going to
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Speaker 2: meetings and things like that. He's a part of the
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Speaker 2: team in that respect, and he's he's he's making his appearance.
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Speaker 2: Is one of the case. Maybe it's not that he's
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Speaker 2: just you know, chilling in the dorm rooms or anything
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Speaker 2: like that to Saint John Fisher. So you know, here's
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Speaker 2: the the interesting thing about it for me is that again,
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Speaker 2: now maybe I misread the situation and I think that,
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Speaker 2: you know, I think it could have been easy to
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Speaker 2: I feel like I have a little bit of leeway
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Speaker 2: and get some grace in that because when Diana Russini
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Speaker 2: or Tom Pallisero starts it off with saying that it's
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Speaker 2: close and then he holds in my whole thing that
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Speaker 2: I think there was on Monday. My whole thing was like, listen, man,
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Speaker 2: he's not trying to get injured, obviously, because if they're,
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Speaker 2: if they're getting closer than it's it's kind of a
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Speaker 2: situation where, you know what I mean, you want to
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Speaker 2: pull yourself out, make sure that everything stays. He listen,
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Speaker 2: I don't want anything to snag and to hold this up.
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Speaker 2: And then in addition to the injury part, was that listen,
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Speaker 2: I don't have the only leverage I have, as James Cook,
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Speaker 2: is to withhold my services. So listen, we're close. Let's
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Speaker 2: get this done. You know what I mean. My my
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Speaker 2: agent told me last night that we're quibbling over you know,
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Speaker 2: a couple of million dollars here and there over guaranteed money,
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Speaker 2: or we're quibbling over you know what I mean. And
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Speaker 2: I know how that sounds to the regular body of
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Speaker 2: members and regular people out there in the world. But listen,
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Speaker 2: we're qubbling over a couple million bucks. Listen, I'm I'm
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Speaker 2: I'm only able to withhold my services. I'm serious about
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Speaker 2: playing here with the Buffalo bills. I think he actually said,
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Speaker 2: like week or whatever the case may be, I want
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Speaker 2: to retire a bill if I can. I want to
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Speaker 2: play here. You know, I enjoy it here, that type
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Speaker 2: of thing. So I thought that on earlier in the
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Speaker 2: week when he started the hold in. It was kind
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Speaker 2: of it was kind of showing you that Listen, I
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Speaker 2: know that my only leverage is to withhold services. Let's
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Speaker 2: get this thing done in good faith and be done
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Speaker 2: with it. Because of the fact that my agent told
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Speaker 2: me that we're so close, now I'm kind of wondering
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Speaker 2: if they are so close or who put that? You know, now,
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Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder who put that out. It doesn't
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Speaker 2: make too much sense for Brandon Bean to say that
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Speaker 2: they're real close, because then if they don't strike a deal,
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Speaker 2: it makes him look bad. So could I conceive that
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Speaker 2: the agent put it out that, you know, hey, we're
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Speaker 2: close to kind of put pressure on the bills. And
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of now after today, I'm missing practice, I'm
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Speaker 2: kind of I'm kind of leaning towards that way that
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Speaker 2: I think it was the agent that had the pot.
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Speaker 1: You know, well, I here's a theory. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I believe this theory, but this is a theory
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Speaker 1: I've been I've been thinking about with all this right,
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Speaker 1: I hope it's right. I hope it's close. I hope
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Speaker 1: he gets done whatever. I'm now an advocate to pay
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Speaker 1: the man. What if his theory was I'm gonna come
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Speaker 1: start up camp, you know, show myself as a use
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Speaker 1: the useful weapon. I am into this offense, and then
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Speaker 1: midway through, if we don't have anything, start the holdout.
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Speaker 1: Then that gets everybody on this team. Joe Brady, Josh Allen,
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Speaker 1: this offense that's used to him in the lineup through
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Speaker 1: practice for the first two weeks, then all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden he's out. Does he kind of try to play
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Speaker 1: that where it's like Josh Allen just goes to being
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Speaker 1: and says, dude, we had him in the first two weeks.
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Speaker 1: It's working well, we're popping get him signed. And is
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Speaker 1: that a strategy from James Cook to try to give
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Speaker 1: the people a little taste and then pull it out
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Speaker 1: to make him a little more wanted if you will.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's.
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Speaker 1: See, even though he's only a he this is his
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Speaker 1: first negotiation. We gotta think he's been around, you know,
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Speaker 1: high high profile with his brother. They know how to
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Speaker 1: you know, he got multiple contracts and you know how
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Speaker 1: to work the business side of the NFL. Is this
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Speaker 1: a little dangle a carrot? See I'm here, I'm good.
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Speaker 1: Look how good the offense is when I'm practicing. Now
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Speaker 1: I pull out. You have to get it done?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, But and and kind of it's almost in
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Speaker 2: the same case that like you know, like if we're
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Speaker 2: close to a deal, or if you know the numbers
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Speaker 2: are right, or and it's just guarantee or it's just
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Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, then at that point in time,
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm withholding my services to let you know my
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Speaker 2: my value, my we're in practice right now, you know
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Speaker 2: what I mean. And they only have some you know,
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Speaker 2: certain amount of padded practices and different things like that,
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Speaker 2: so there's not much that's really going on. My thing
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Speaker 2: is that maybe he was trying to send a message
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Speaker 2: that this offense will look a lot different without me.
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Speaker 2: So if you think that Ray Davis and Tdy Johnson
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Speaker 2: and Frank Gore, or I know that mcnermott said today
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Speaker 2: that they worked out some you know, some cats and
11:49
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and I understand that's not that's you know,
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Speaker 2: Derrenson Evid's but they worked out some some outside free
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Speaker 2: agents and he didn't say who, but he said he's
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Speaker 2: got his eye on a couple of guys or the listen.
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Speaker 2: I understand that a lot of that is posturing. I
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Speaker 2: understand that a lot of that is playing the game.
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Speaker 2: It's a business. However, I think that this Bills offense
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Speaker 2: would dramatically look it would look dramatically different if James
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Speaker 2: Cook was at the feature back because of his explosiveness.
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Speaker 2: So because of that, I almost can't fault him for
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Speaker 2: pulling the last car because he really doesn't have any
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Speaker 2: cards left to play. If Brandon Bean balks at this
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Speaker 2: last attempt with the hole in, I mean, we've already
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Speaker 2: agreed that he is not missing checks. He literally came
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Speaker 2: to OTA's and said, they say, why are you here?
12:32
Speaker 2: I like my money? Like, so, there's no way that
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Speaker 2: he's getting paid five million dollars in change and he's
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Speaker 2: getting ready to lose game checks, you know, for for
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Speaker 2: a stance. So I understand that his brother plays a
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Speaker 2: part in it. I know that they know how to
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Speaker 2: play the game. I was just I guess I would
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Speaker 2: just want to say that I was surprised by today
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Speaker 2: that there wasn't a deal. So it's almost like, well,
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Speaker 2: what's the hold in for? You know what I mean? Like,
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Speaker 2: so who put that information out there? And I I
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Speaker 2: I'm just starting to lean towards the fact that the
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Speaker 2: agent put it out there to put pressure on Bean.
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Speaker 2: If Bean doesn't crack, he's got to come back before
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Speaker 2: Baltimore because he'll lose. He'll lose. He'll have more to
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Speaker 2: lose than he'll have the game. And that's not only
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Speaker 2: monetarily but also on the football field. He's not going
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Speaker 2: to be out there performing and it's just gonna It's
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Speaker 2: not a good situation. If you want that deal from
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Speaker 2: even another team down the road next offseason, you need
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Speaker 2: to get out there and play. Got it.
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Speaker 1: I'm flying this out there. I don't know exactly, so
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Speaker 1: Nicol City Crew, if you can prove me wrong, please do.
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Speaker 1: But a running back second contract, that that's got to
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Speaker 1: be one of the positions that a third contract is.
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Speaker 1: Almost unless you're an all time great, you're not getting
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Speaker 1: the third contract. I mean, receivers get third contracts, Linemen
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Speaker 1: get third contracts, quarterback get third contracts, defense gets third contracts.
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Speaker 1: Running backs don't get third contracts. And you know, you
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Speaker 1: saw that. Probably the biggest example was Le'Veon Bell a
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Speaker 1: few years ago. You know, somebody who he was never
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Speaker 1: the top back in the league, but similar to James
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Speaker 1: Cook right now, very respectable back, you know, was the
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Speaker 1: feature back of his team, held out, try to get
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Speaker 1: try to get his money. It didn't work and it
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Speaker 1: fizzled out. Never three contracts, so this is he wants.
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Speaker 1: He knows, probably not another one after this, So obviously
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Speaker 1: trying to maximize. But I think we're just in the ballpark.
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Speaker 1: That makes sense. You know, obviously in the beginning of
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Speaker 1: the offseason when he was talking Saquon money or sixteen
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Speaker 1: or seventeen, like that's not gonna happen, like it's just
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Speaker 1: not and he knows that, But why not start the
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Speaker 1: negotiation high and go. I think the Williams deal this
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Speaker 1: week really puts it in perspective. Side by side. They
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Speaker 1: were breaking down a bunch of the stats on WGR
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Speaker 1: this week about you know, yards expected and things along
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Speaker 1: that nature, side by side for each of their teams.
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Speaker 1: Williams and Cook are probably about similar stature and eleven
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Speaker 1: mil I think is very fair. You look down the
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Speaker 1: you look down the list of the top pay backs
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Speaker 1: in the league, obviously take out Saquon and Christian and
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Speaker 1: then you get down to like I was, like Alvin
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Speaker 1: Kamara twelve six a year. Alvin Kamara got that twelve
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Speaker 1: six a couple of years ago when he was a
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Speaker 1: lot more of a stud than he is now. He's
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Speaker 1: still productive, but he got that twelve six a few
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Speaker 1: years ago and he was a lot more of a stud.
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Speaker 1: I think James Cook isn't at the level of Alan Kamara.
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Speaker 1: You know, when Alvin Kamara was really tearing it up,
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Speaker 1: but similar so eleven twelve is more than fair in
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Speaker 1: my eyes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is more than fair, you know. And
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Speaker 2: then you see the ky Kyrine Williams deal come out,
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Speaker 2: and it was, you know, it was like universal on
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Speaker 2: Twitor was like, well, would you like give this to
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Speaker 2: James you know what I mean, with a couple more
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Speaker 2: million guaranteed, Like give it to him, and he's got
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Speaker 2: to take it. And I think that it was universal
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Speaker 2: on there that he's got to take that type of
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Speaker 2: contract if they present him with something like that, So
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Speaker 2: I think that it was the whole. Then it was
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Speaker 2: the reports from Pallisero and Rassini in consecutive days, plus
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Speaker 2: the Kyrone Williams thing, where by the time Kyrien Williams
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Speaker 2: came out, I was like, man, this is getting like,
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Speaker 2: this is getting done. We're getting ready to get an
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Speaker 2: ESPN little pop up on your phone notification, like you know,
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Speaker 2: James Cook is signed, and you know what if Kiren
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Speaker 2: get twenty three guaranteed, he's getting twenty twenty six guaranteed.
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Speaker 2: And it's a three year deal, but it's really essentially
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Speaker 2: a two year deal because they'll have an out after
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Speaker 2: the second year and it didn't get done. So it's
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Speaker 2: just interesting to me how everything kind of played out,
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Speaker 2: and I just I feel bad. I think that that's
16:19
Speaker 2: what it comes down to, the fact that you know,
16:21
Speaker 2: I hear you know Bill's Twitter, you know, and they're
16:23
Speaker 2: talking shit about him and get him out of here
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and like, listen, respectfully, Bill's mafia
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Speaker 2: for those of you like like DT just laid out
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Speaker 2: if you don't understand how it works when it comes
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Speaker 2: to a business. Every time that an athlete wants to
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Speaker 2: get paid, that does not make him selfish, It does
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Speaker 2: not make him all about himself and he's he's anti team.
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Speaker 2: None of that type of stuff is true. DT is
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Speaker 2: absolutely right running backs. This is the contract that is
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Speaker 2: going to set him up for his own generational wealth
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Speaker 2: and he'll have to be smart about his money after
16:56
Speaker 2: that if he wants to last to his grandkids, you
16:58
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Things like that. Now, obviously he
17:00
Speaker 2: can't fathom that, you know what, twenty million, twenty you
17:02
Speaker 2: know what I mean, But you got taxes. He's in
17:05
Speaker 2: New York State. You know, a lot of stuff can happen,
17:07
Speaker 2: So like this is his payday. I will never ever
17:11
Speaker 2: dispairge another young man for trying to get his bread man.
17:15
Speaker 2: He is trying to get it, and I think that
17:17
Speaker 2: that's where I fall dt is that one when today
17:19
Speaker 2: came and I heard that he still was not obviously signed,
17:22
Speaker 2: he wasn't coming to practice, and I was just like, man,
17:25
Speaker 2: I just kind of felt like it was like a
17:26
Speaker 2: deflated like you don't really have any more cars to
17:29
Speaker 2: play home because like this or what is it a
17:31
Speaker 2: month away from the season. You're gonna, you know, if
17:35
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean holds true, you're gonna you're gonna have to
17:37
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to hold Yeah, I mean, you.
17:39
Speaker 1: Know, give him product for taking it out all the
17:42
Speaker 1: way to the end and really, yay, I do respect
17:44
Speaker 1: my game and I want to get paid, and I
17:47
Speaker 1: thought I also had Do you think there's almost like
17:49
Speaker 1: a reverse tampering amongst NFL like gms in this situation,
17:56
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean knows Tyron Williams needs to get signed, the
18:00
Speaker 1: GM of the Rams knows James Cook needs to get signed.
18:03
Speaker 1: Do you think Joe GM's are talking to each other saying,
18:06
Speaker 1: you know, different different conferences really don't matter with each other. Hey,
18:09
Speaker 1: we got to pay these running backs. What are you
18:11
Speaker 1: kind of thinking to give this guy? So you know,
18:14
Speaker 1: they don't come out with US fifteen sixteen and then
18:16
Speaker 1: the bills are like, shoot, now we got to Now
18:18
Speaker 1: we gotta move up our offer that was ten and
18:20
Speaker 1: a half. Do you think these gms talk about things
18:23
Speaker 1: like that when they have similar players they need to
18:26
Speaker 1: sign and like, hey, don't bring this up too high.
18:28
Speaker 1: Let's keep this respectable. You get this guy signed for
18:31
Speaker 1: ten mil. That's gonna make me a lot happier because
18:33
Speaker 1: I can get him signed for ten minli.
18:35
Speaker 2: Ooh, that is a little bit you now, now you're
18:37
Speaker 2: that's a little bit dangerous because now you're talking back
18:40
Speaker 2: to that whole Pablo Torre, you know what I mean
18:43
Speaker 2: with the with the NFLPA and how everybody was butt
18:47
Speaker 2: hurt over the fact that, you know what I mean,
18:48
Speaker 2: Jimmy Haslam gave Deshaun Watson all that guaranteed money, and
18:51
Speaker 2: what did one of the owners do. They got together,
18:54
Speaker 2: they colluded, They said, listen, we are not letting this
18:56
Speaker 2: shit happen again. And they literally talked about Herbert and
18:59
Speaker 2: talked about other quarterbacks and they're guaranteed contracts that are
19:02
Speaker 2: coming up in the future. I wouldn't. I wouldn't put
19:05
Speaker 2: it past it. DT, I wouldn't put it past I
19:08
Speaker 2: wouldn't put it past any of them because of the
19:10
Speaker 2: fact that you know, it's it's the good Old Boys Club.
19:12
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's going all the way back to
19:15
Speaker 2: Season one Nickel City Crew. I talked about the Good
19:17
Speaker 2: Old Boys Club. It's it's a real thing. I I wow,
19:22
Speaker 2: you kind of you kind of.
19:23
Speaker 1: Think at a little different thing to think about there,
19:26
Speaker 1: Like I thought about that. Yeah. Yeah, you go to
19:30
Speaker 1: an auction, you know, a fellow bitter and you say, hey, like,
19:33
Speaker 1: let's it's just you and me in on this. Let's
19:35
Speaker 1: you know, let's be good to each other here. Not
19:37
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna come in it way above and ruin
19:40
Speaker 1: it all and and up this market. And we saw
19:43
Speaker 1: it with the second round picks this year. The second
19:45
Speaker 1: one held out, then it and then it went, and
19:47
Speaker 1: then it went. And so do you think these owners
19:49
Speaker 1: and GM's are talking like, hey, we're not as a whole,
19:53
Speaker 1: we're not going over this number. We set the tone back,
19:56
Speaker 1: you know, and eventually everyone just has to get in line.
20:00
Speaker 2: DT. That's that's juicy I'm gonna have to think about that.
20:04
Speaker 2: I will get back to you next week all my
20:06
Speaker 2: thoughts on that, because let's see how next week plays out.
20:08
Speaker 2: Because it makes sense. The running back market is clearly defined.
20:12
Speaker 2: You've got the top of the top with say Con Barkley,
20:14
Speaker 2: the Christian McCaffrey. I think that you know, they gave
20:18
Speaker 2: you know, Derrick Henry after another amazing season, the Ravens
20:21
Speaker 2: gave him another raise, but they only paid him eight million,
20:24
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like if James Cook wonted
20:26
Speaker 2: nine million, you're telling him he he's not better than
20:28
Speaker 2: you know Henry. Of course you're saying he's not better
20:31
Speaker 2: than But I mean, I'm here, I'm working, you know
20:34
Speaker 2: what I mean that type of thing. So I think
20:35
Speaker 2: that he's definitely looking for that above ten. I'm sure
20:38
Speaker 2: that it's in the ten to eleven million dollar range.
20:41
Speaker 2: And then if it's not the AAV the annual average value,
20:45
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's looking for that guaranteed over Kyron Williams
20:48
Speaker 2: of that twenty three million. And if Brandon Bean can
20:50
Speaker 2: get to that sweet spot, I think this would have
20:52
Speaker 2: already been done. I think that the Kyron Williams contract
20:55
Speaker 2: created a baseline, and I think that that's why I'm
20:58
Speaker 2: most surprised that it's not done quite yet. So everybody's
21:01
Speaker 2: a little bit uncomfortable down there at one Bill's Drive.
21:04
Speaker 2: The players again, they always support their brothers in respects
21:07
Speaker 2: to getting their money. Do not worry about that right now,
21:10
Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia again. Final point on it as we transition
21:13
Speaker 2: is that James Cook is not getting ready to lose money.
21:17
Speaker 2: He is not an idiot. His brother did this once before.
21:20
Speaker 2: He has an agent for a reason. He will not
21:22
Speaker 2: be missing games. I think he's just trying to pull
21:25
Speaker 2: every every lever that he can, and I almost think
21:28
Speaker 2: that he's out of gas. Man, it's like lightning McQueen,
21:31
Speaker 2: What a lightning queen he ran. I watched that with
21:33
Speaker 2: the Kings when they're growing up. He ran out of
21:35
Speaker 2: gas and he had to literally drag himself across the
21:38
Speaker 2: finish line. I think that that's going to be similar
21:40
Speaker 2: to James Cook. I don't. I don't think that there's
21:42
Speaker 2: anything else left for him to do other than come
21:43
Speaker 2: back to practice, whether it be next week or the
21:46
Speaker 2: week after. He's got to get ready to play.
21:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And he's pros no easier three. Now
21:56
Speaker 1: he knows, or you're forty, he knows. He's got what
21:59
Speaker 1: he has to do to prepare and what the taxes
22:01
Speaker 1: of the NFL season has in store for him coming up.
22:03
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna see him back on the
22:05
Speaker 1: field soon. My last point with this is in this
22:09
Speaker 1: I ramp up my intensity just like the players do.
22:12
Speaker 1: I'm in my preseason mode, and what I've been doing is,
22:15
Speaker 1: you know, every obviously we had you know, hard knocks,
22:17
Speaker 1: which we'll get into this week, but every other night
22:20
Speaker 1: I try to find some sort of highlight or pump up,
22:23
Speaker 1: you know video. It might be a Josh Allen rookie year,
22:26
Speaker 1: but most recently I watched the twenty twenty four Josh
22:30
Speaker 1: Allen MVP highlights and I it really it's like a
22:34
Speaker 1: fifty five minute video. It's not just touchdowns, it's it's
22:38
Speaker 1: like anything over It's like anything over fifteen yards, and
22:42
Speaker 1: there's a lot of plays with four in it in
22:45
Speaker 1: this highlight reel. Obviously, sixteen touchdowns last year, You're gonna
22:48
Speaker 1: see a lot. But as seventeen grows and matures, he's
22:51
Speaker 1: not just ripping it down the middle of the field anymore.
22:53
Speaker 1: He's checking down more than he ever has and with
22:57
Speaker 1: four in it, with four in the action there, I
22:59
Speaker 1: think he he's a more and more crucial each year
23:02
Speaker 1: because Josh doesn't care who he throws to anymore, you know.
23:05
Speaker 1: And if it's if it's James cookotut the backfield to
23:06
Speaker 1: give him some it's James cookatt of the backfield. He's
23:09
Speaker 1: gotten better running between the tackles. He's explosive a on
23:11
Speaker 1: the outside. He sixteen touchdowns. Where you get that, I
23:15
Speaker 1: mean he is on the highlight reel, He's all over
23:18
Speaker 1: the place. He was on hard knocks. He had a
23:20
Speaker 1: great play, and it's the whole thing where seventeen goes
23:23
Speaker 1: up and let's go for, let's go for and it's.
23:26
Speaker 2: Easy walk in. He's an easy walk in for.
23:28
Speaker 1: And I think that has a lot to do with
23:31
Speaker 1: this and more or less when all the chips are down, Rob,
23:34
Speaker 1: he's the second best playmaker on this offense behind seventeen.
23:38
Speaker 1: And and there's everybody in this league is going to
23:41
Speaker 1: be a second even the best player is going to
23:43
Speaker 1: be a second best you know, playmaker on this team
23:46
Speaker 1: behind seventeen. So if you're second behind Josh Allen that's
23:50
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good place to be.
23:52
Speaker 2: It is. I mean he is. I say, you literally
23:55
Speaker 2: stole my Twitter argument from me, because that's what I
23:57
Speaker 2: say to every single person that comes up on Twitter,
24:00
Speaker 2: and then I say it on Facebook when I'm at work,
24:02
Speaker 2: and I'm like, listen, man. The disrespect that James Cook
24:05
Speaker 2: is getting is beyond me. He is the second most
24:08
Speaker 2: explosive player on the Bills outside of Josh Allen in
24:12
Speaker 2: respects to the offense. I don't understand why you guys
24:14
Speaker 2: want to kick him to the curb. I understand that
24:17
Speaker 2: there's a dynamic where we're forever. We talked about that
24:20
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. The fans are forever. Goola's forever.
24:23
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, so to speak. You know,
24:25
Speaker 2: so players come and go. You don't have to shit
24:28
Speaker 2: on this guy. He's not a bad guy because he
24:30
Speaker 2: was trying to get paid. He is just trying to
24:32
Speaker 2: set up his family for success for the long term.
24:35
Speaker 2: And it's not different than anybody else at their job.
24:39
Speaker 2: It's just a different number, that's all that is. So
24:41
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Speaker 2: we transition tonight. It's funny because I mean, we're talking
26:27
Speaker 2: about first preseason game coming up on Saturday. I think
26:31
Speaker 2: the Bills are in a joint practice next week. Sean
26:34
Speaker 2: McDermott just said Josh Allen's not playing on Saturday. The
26:37
Speaker 2: starters will play about a quarter or so, he said,
26:40
Speaker 2: but Josh Allen will not play. They've got that little
26:43
Speaker 2: joint practice with the Chicago Bears next week, and maybe
26:46
Speaker 2: that can serve as kind of a de facto preseason
26:49
Speaker 2: game and where the quarterback definitely doesn't get touched, that
26:52
Speaker 2: type of thing where you're more of a controlled environment.
26:55
Speaker 2: I don't know if we see Josh Allen this entire proseason, preseason,
26:58
Speaker 2: but DT, I promise you, these injuries are starting to
27:04
Speaker 2: like like, okay, I need you guys to start coming.
27:06
Speaker 2: I mean Cold Bishop. I mean, everybody wants to annoy him.
27:10
Speaker 2: I was never, you know, excited about him. I understood
27:12
Speaker 2: that he had some physical traits, and then the injuries
27:15
Speaker 2: his rookie season kind of soured me. And then obviously
27:17
Speaker 2: the over the top Nico Collins in Houston, and I
27:20
Speaker 2: I was out at that point, you know what I mean.
27:22
Speaker 2: But not because I'm not saying he's a bust. I
27:24
Speaker 2: was just saying last year, for the twenty twenty four
27:26
Speaker 2: Bills defense, I wasn't excited to see Cold Bishop play.
27:29
Speaker 2: He had some hype coming in this year. He gets
27:31
Speaker 2: hurt again. He's out. They say, Taylor rap is out.
27:35
Speaker 2: They said that he should be coming back in about
27:36
Speaker 2: a week or so. Nothing serious. They say that they
27:39
Speaker 2: claim cold Bishop is coming back and he's ramping up
27:41
Speaker 2: and he should be back soon. DT. The injuries have
27:44
Speaker 2: been just something. I mean the wide receiver room. It's
27:46
Speaker 2: Christian Wilkerson catching all these balls in training camp. I mean,
27:53
Speaker 2: I mean even Tyrol Shafers, who's a camp favorite, he
27:55
Speaker 2: has been hurt. DT. Man, these injuries, Man, I didn't
27:58
Speaker 2: want to name the episode injury buguse we did that
28:01
Speaker 2: last season, but it seems to be a reoccurrent theme.
28:03
Speaker 2: I don't blame it on the training staff, but boy,
28:06
Speaker 2: I mean talk about luck. We kind of need these
28:09
Speaker 2: boys to get back ready to go. They got a month,
28:11
Speaker 2: they got a month, they.
28:13
Speaker 1: Got thirty days. Discouraging for sure, discouraging for sure. You
28:18
Speaker 1: gotta take it though. If it's if it's now rather
28:20
Speaker 1: than in the season, right, you know, get get all
28:23
Speaker 1: the bumps and bruises out, get used to it. And
28:25
Speaker 1: Steve Dafker said it this week on One Bills Live.
28:28
Speaker 1: He said, the injury rate in the NFL on a
28:31
Speaker 1: roster is one hundred percent. Through the season, every single
28:35
Speaker 1: player that steps on that field will be injured in
28:37
Speaker 1: some way or another. That doesn't mean they're gonna miss time,
28:39
Speaker 1: but you are injured. It's just too physical to a
28:42
Speaker 1: gladiator of a game. And obviously they're not banging hard
28:45
Speaker 1: in practice, but these dudes haven't been going They've been training,
28:49
Speaker 1: but they've been going hard like this all off season.
28:52
Speaker 1: You know, where it's man up. You're taking cuts every time,
28:55
Speaker 1: you're literally trying to make a spot, trying to make
28:57
Speaker 1: millions of dollars each and every day, and that's you know,
29:00
Speaker 1: that's gonna that's gonna really extend things. So as the
29:03
Speaker 1: season goes, hopefully it kind of settles down and it
29:05
Speaker 1: planes out, the rosters set, they're they're in game plans,
29:08
Speaker 1: it kind of moves forward. I'm chalking it up as
29:11
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully that means it was its intensity. It's
29:14
Speaker 1: been super intense. Guys are just getting back into it.
29:17
Speaker 1: A lot of soreness, a lot of a lot of
29:19
Speaker 1: small stuff, if you will, other than you know the
29:21
Speaker 1: big with uh even a sprain ankle is still coming
29:24
Speaker 1: back in a few weeks for Shakir, and we we
29:26
Speaker 1: missed the a c L with with Harrison, so it
29:30
Speaker 1: hopefully it's now the intensity's up. Everyone just a little sore,
29:33
Speaker 1: beat up, cutting a little hard. When the season comes,
29:36
Speaker 1: it kind of planes out. But these guys gotta get
29:38
Speaker 1: reps to robs, So two sides of over coming with that.
29:41
Speaker 1: I don't think it's this bad around the league, but
29:43
Speaker 1: everybody is feeling this, you know, in the NFL right now.
29:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everybody is feeling it for sure. I
29:50
Speaker 2: agree with you on that. It just seems like and
29:53
Speaker 2: and maybe you're right, maybe it's just because it's our
29:55
Speaker 2: team and we're just we're more hyper focused on it.
29:58
Speaker 2: But I mean the receivers, I mean, we we've had
30:00
Speaker 2: a Khalils out, you know, ankle injury. He's going to
30:02
Speaker 2: be out for a couple of weeks. They said he's
30:04
Speaker 2: weak to week, Tyrol Shavers. We talked about Samuel. I
30:08
Speaker 2: don't even I haven't seen him much at all because
30:11
Speaker 2: he's been hurt, you know what I mean. And it's
30:12
Speaker 2: a second short year. So I think that when it
30:14
Speaker 2: comes to Cold Bishop, specifically Cold Bishop and Samuel, this
30:19
Speaker 2: is now, you know, the second year in a row
30:23
Speaker 2: where there's a built an excuse. And what have I
30:27
Speaker 2: talked about all off season DT, I'm trying to I'm
30:29
Speaker 2: trying to root out and eliminate all built in excuses.
30:33
Speaker 2: They said that, you know, Curtis Samy had a turf toe,
30:35
Speaker 2: and that's why they couldn't give him the ball out
30:37
Speaker 2: of the backfield, and they couldn't really utilize the things
30:40
Speaker 2: that we saw in Washington and Carolina with him because
30:42
Speaker 2: he just wasn't right. Okay, you gotta eat it, Okay,
30:44
Speaker 2: no problem. Cold Bishop Well, he missed a lot of
30:47
Speaker 2: camp because he was hurt and stuff like that. We're
30:49
Speaker 2: doing the same thing again this year. I know that
30:52
Speaker 2: the Bills don't want it to be the case, but
30:54
Speaker 2: it is the case, and I want all I think,
30:58
Speaker 2: I just want all hands on deck for Week one
31:01
Speaker 2: because I do know that even though we could lose
31:03
Speaker 2: that game to Baltimore at home Sunday Night football to
31:06
Speaker 2: kick off the season, I do know that there are
31:08
Speaker 2: number one seed implications. And if we're gonna keep listen DT,
31:13
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna keep the main thing, the main thing.
31:15
Speaker 2: The main thing is that the number one seed is
31:17
Speaker 2: something that we've never obtained. That's my main focus for
31:19
Speaker 2: this twenty twenty five regular season. So because of that,
31:23
Speaker 2: I just don't like the vibes. Listen. I heard tomorrow.
31:25
Speaker 2: Hamil's been playing great, and you know, what I mean,
31:28
Speaker 2: and he'll step in if he has to. I think
31:30
Speaker 2: they've got you know, Derek Forrester to back up Rap
31:33
Speaker 2: if Rap can't go. I just want all hands on
31:36
Speaker 2: deck DT because of the fact that it's a situation
31:39
Speaker 2: where there's I just don't want built in excuses before
31:43
Speaker 2: we even start playing games, because that's when we start
31:45
Speaker 2: getting in arguments come you know, come January February.
31:48
Speaker 1: It's tough to make that excuse because we don't even
31:50
Speaker 1: know what this team is going to be, right, we
31:52
Speaker 1: have high expectations, but we can't say it could have,
31:54
Speaker 1: should have, would have if we start the year and
31:56
Speaker 1: there's all these injuries, and oh, we would have went
31:58
Speaker 1: far if we didn't have all injuries, Like, we don't
32:01
Speaker 1: know how good we're gonna be this year. You know,
32:02
Speaker 1: there's good teams every year that come in and aren't good.
32:05
Speaker 1: I obviously don't believe that, you know. I think with
32:08
Speaker 1: seventeen it makes a whole different you know, playing field
32:11
Speaker 1: when it comes to fairness and probability and the swings
32:14
Speaker 1: of the league back and forth. But it's just not
32:18
Speaker 1: something that you want and these these young guys. That
32:21
Speaker 1: was the biggest thing last year. It was not the
32:23
Speaker 1: reps in training camp for Cole Bishop, and then every
32:27
Speaker 1: time he got on the field it was limited, and
32:28
Speaker 1: when he was he looked like he needed the reps.
32:31
Speaker 1: So a lot of guys, veterans and young guys, and
32:35
Speaker 1: it's just I gotta go with that first theory. Have
32:38
Speaker 1: him now get banged up. Now the intensity is high.
32:41
Speaker 1: Everyone's trying to make a roster playing out during the
32:44
Speaker 1: regular season. And I think this team is, you know,
32:46
Speaker 1: definitely training camp at Saint John Fisher is gonna be
32:49
Speaker 1: a little more intense in the next couple of weeks
32:50
Speaker 1: of practice, especially going getting prepared for game weeks. You're traveling,
32:54
Speaker 1: all those things are involved. I think it's gonna settle
32:56
Speaker 1: down a little bit.
32:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. I mean, I mean, I would assume
33:01
Speaker 2: and I would hope, you know what I mean, things
33:03
Speaker 2: like that. So that's all you can do is hope,
33:05
Speaker 2: you know. I just think that it's a it's a
33:07
Speaker 2: troubling trend when you see guys that have been injured
33:10
Speaker 2: before and they still can't you know, get it right.
33:13
Speaker 2: You know, Kincaid was even banged up to start and
33:16
Speaker 2: then he missed them, you know, and then I now
33:17
Speaker 2: I see him out there, he's catching pass. He's got
33:19
Speaker 2: to sleep on his right knee. I just listen. I
33:22
Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. What if Doug Wlly say one time
33:24
Speaker 2: humans are not meant to play football, and everybody threw
33:27
Speaker 2: their hands up, and I'm like, well, he's not lying.
33:29
Speaker 2: He just he might not have been so eloquent in
33:31
Speaker 2: saying it, but the human body was not meant to
33:34
Speaker 2: beat up on each other in the way that they
33:35
Speaker 2: do it football. He was. He was absolutely one hundred
33:38
Speaker 2: percent right, So you know, I get it. I do
33:41
Speaker 2: understand that injuries, and sometimes it's hard when you get
33:44
Speaker 2: the injury prone label that type of thing, because it's
33:47
Speaker 2: not always fair. And obviously Trey White, Matt Malone, they
33:52
Speaker 2: say he's balling out in camp and stuff like that,
33:53
Speaker 2: So obviously it's not it's not linear, you know what
33:56
Speaker 2: I mean. Just because you had an injury doesn't mean
33:58
Speaker 2: that you're going to continue to get one. Just because
34:00
Speaker 2: he had an injury does not mean that you're going
34:02
Speaker 2: to be shitty going forward. It's just a situation where
34:05
Speaker 2: it's it makes it a little bit tough to rely
34:08
Speaker 2: and to feel confident about some of these guys. Because
34:12
Speaker 2: Taylor Rap. I mean this is your audition, man, right.
34:14
Speaker 2: I mean you're you're supposed to be the cornerback, your
34:16
Speaker 2: second round pick, You're supposed to be a safety, You're
34:19
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be back there with Rap. I just
34:21
Speaker 2: don't I don't know, man. I don't like the built
34:24
Speaker 2: in excuses. Same thing with Samuel. I know Samue will
34:27
Speaker 2: be on the team because of his salary and the
34:29
Speaker 2: dead cap is way too much to cut him even
34:30
Speaker 2: with Elijah Moore. I need, I need Can you can
34:33
Speaker 2: you be right for week one? Can Can Josh Allen
34:36
Speaker 2: have all of his weapons for week one? That's That's
34:39
Speaker 2: really what I'm looking for.
34:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be. It's gotta be the game
34:43
Speaker 1: of inches, Rob We're falling short of an inch multiple
34:47
Speaker 1: years now, and it uh all those players give us
34:51
Speaker 1: a little inch. So I agree hundred percent. I'm gonna
34:54
Speaker 1: remain positive with it. I'm not worried about it until
34:56
Speaker 1: I start seeing actual else.
34:59
Speaker 2: I got it, I got I'll leave it alone. I'll
35:01
Speaker 2: leave it alone. You beat me, you beat me down, cold,
35:04
Speaker 2: Bishop get back to practice, Curtis Caam would get back
35:07
Speaker 2: to practice. Khali will get back healthy, everybody get back
35:10
Speaker 2: healthy and let's be all hands on deck for Week
35:13
Speaker 2: one Sunday Night football against Baltimore. Now as we begin
35:16
Speaker 2: to wrap up tonight DT, it's funny because I'm now
35:21
Speaker 2: I'm a hard Knocks enthusiast. I'm a hard knocks like junkie.
35:25
Speaker 2: I've been on it for forever since I mean, I'm
35:28
Speaker 2: talking about since the Ravens back in the day where
35:31
Speaker 2: they locked uh Shannon Sharp and the damn trailer they
35:35
Speaker 2: locked the tight ends and the trailer once Ray Lewis did,
35:38
Speaker 2: and stuff like, I mean, I'm I'm just into it
35:40
Speaker 2: and Rex Ryan before he was our coach and let's
35:43
Speaker 2: go get a goddamn snack and you know what I mean,
35:45
Speaker 2: and the whole Durell Reeves hold out. I love Hard Knocks.
35:48
Speaker 2: I love the view that they give of the teams
35:51
Speaker 2: and different things like that. Now they've gotten away from
35:55
Speaker 2: cutting guys live, you know, not live, but you know,
35:58
Speaker 2: cutting guys on TV, and you know, like that's kind
36:01
Speaker 2: of that's kind of the train wreck that you don't
36:03
Speaker 2: necessarily have to see, you don't necessarily need to see.
36:05
Speaker 2: It's already tough enough to imagine those guys and their dreams, uh,
36:09
Speaker 2: you know, shattering, and I'm sure that they'll do a
36:11
Speaker 2: little bit of that in respects to cut down day
36:14
Speaker 2: as the show you know, progresses. DT. It was, it was.
36:20
Speaker 2: It was all sunshine and rainbows on Tuesday night for
36:25
Speaker 2: the season premiere, episode one of the Buffalo Bill's hard knocks.
36:28
Speaker 2: I'm not knocking it, no pun intended, but it was.
36:33
Speaker 2: It almost was like The Blue and Red embedded, Like
36:36
Speaker 2: it was almost like an embedded show, like it was
36:39
Speaker 2: all positive. Everything was good. Everybody was slurping on the
36:43
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, I mean, every everything was just lovely. And
36:47
Speaker 2: I've got some thoughts on it, but I wanted to
36:49
Speaker 2: know because I know you and I texted that morning
36:52
Speaker 2: the morning after on Wednesday, and l it was. It
36:54
Speaker 2: was positive for sure, there was there was nothing negative. Now,
36:58
Speaker 2: before you give your point, I never thought that they
37:01
Speaker 2: were going to bring James Cook up this week with
37:03
Speaker 2: the whole end because it happened so late in the week.
37:06
Speaker 2: It happened after the Blue and Red, so I never
37:09
Speaker 2: thought that they were going to bring that up. I'm
37:11
Speaker 2: expecting it to be next week that they at least
37:14
Speaker 2: talk about it. If they don't talk about it, then
37:17
Speaker 2: you know that the Bills have full editorial control and
37:19
Speaker 2: they are. They're literally running an HBO version of Blue
37:22
Speaker 2: and Red. Yeah, better than I don't. I don't necessarily
37:25
Speaker 2: want that. I want to see the truth. I like
37:27
Speaker 2: to see this behind the scenes. Shit, yeah, how did
37:30
Speaker 2: you take that? Per se? It was it was sunshines,
37:34
Speaker 2: buffaloes and rainbows.
37:36
Speaker 1: Yep, well it was easy to be rainbows when majority
37:40
Speaker 1: of the episode is just about seventeen, you know, and literally,
37:45
Speaker 1: what bad are you going to say about it? And no,
37:48
Speaker 1: champ process. He's the leader of this team. He loves camp,
37:51
Speaker 1: he's a guys guy. The fans love him. He's everything
37:54
Speaker 1: about it. It's easy to really hype that up. But like,
37:58
Speaker 1: you know, we're the biggest, some of the big as
38:00
Speaker 1: Homer's out there. And I was like, damn, im I
38:02
Speaker 1: like and I like dating Josh Allen right now, Like
38:06
Speaker 1: they are really forcing me to to like this guy.
38:09
Speaker 1: So I like it. I think, you know, if there's
38:12
Speaker 1: any it's tough to have douters out there in the
38:15
Speaker 1: world nowadays with seventeen, but if there is any and
38:18
Speaker 1: they're watching Hard Knocks, it's gonna be hard not to
38:20
Speaker 1: like the guy, another another little another new balance flash.
38:24
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that right out of
38:25
Speaker 1: the gate when he's walking beer flit up into the
38:28
Speaker 1: another little NB. And I think we will see the
38:30
Speaker 1: end on those cleats when we when we start this
38:33
Speaker 1: season up. But uh I I was into it, man,
38:36
Speaker 1: I I kind of am not. I liked hard knocks.
38:39
Speaker 1: I liked when it was a little rougher around the edges,
38:41
Speaker 1: and and man it got it got kind of soft,
38:44
Speaker 1: and with these bad teams, it was just kind of
38:46
Speaker 1: like that a little boring sometimes. But now obviously I'm
38:50
Speaker 1: all all in on Tuesday. It really puts into perspective
38:53
Speaker 1: how much there really is. Like they talked to little
38:56
Speaker 1: Josh Allen Dion dawkson drifting, was was pretty cool. I
39:00
Speaker 1: had no idea he did any of that. And you
39:04
Speaker 1: know that that looks fun as well.
39:06
Speaker 2: I want to I want to go to Man, they
39:08
Speaker 2: must be a park where like they're out in the
39:10
Speaker 2: woods and nobody is complaining about the.
39:11
Speaker 1: I think it's on the reservation and Irving. Uh they
39:14
Speaker 1: they got a big drift community down there. If you will,
39:18
Speaker 1: there's one right when you when you come up next month,
39:21
Speaker 1: keep an eye when the you know, the big Indian,
39:23
Speaker 1: the guy the Indian out on the side of the road.
39:25
Speaker 1: It's right, it's right there. It's a little drift park,
39:27
Speaker 1: and they're always they're always ripping smokes, always flying up.
39:30
Speaker 1: So I think it was somewhere around there that was cool.
39:34
Speaker 1: Tredevious White just like he never left right he he
39:37
Speaker 1: belongs here and that that's another thing I got out
39:40
Speaker 1: of that episode. Tredavious White belongs on this team. If
39:43
Speaker 1: his production isn't high, I'm I'm still not even mad
39:46
Speaker 1: about it.
39:46
Speaker 2: This year.
39:47
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it might be, but even if it isn't,
39:50
Speaker 1: I'm not mad about it. He deserves me on this team.
39:53
Speaker 1: He he is Buffalo. He fits every every mold we
39:56
Speaker 1: want to see.
39:57
Speaker 2: It was good. It was good.
39:58
Speaker 1: I I I like the aspect of it.
40:00
Speaker 2: It was.
40:01
Speaker 1: It was It was funny at some parts. Obviously all
40:03
Speaker 1: over all over ja uh, there's it's gonna be a
40:06
Speaker 1: good season. I think it's where we're in for a
40:08
Speaker 1: lot more. Obviously, we didn't even see keyon Coleman. We
40:11
Speaker 1: didn't see, you know, anything really on the defense at all.
40:14
Speaker 1: The only defensive blur was when Bobby Bavitch is just
40:18
Speaker 1: like don't touch seventeen. So yeah, Derman Thomas gave him
40:27
Speaker 1: some credit after the practice. Derman Thomas said, defense got
40:29
Speaker 1: the best y'all to day, and I know the offense
40:31
Speaker 1: hopefully was pissed about that and came back and smacked
40:33
Speaker 1: him around the next day.
40:34
Speaker 2: But it's one zero.
40:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was all good production. I'm watching it obviously
40:39
Speaker 1: a lot closer than I have in the previous years,
40:42
Speaker 1: but I think overall great production and I'm looking forward
40:46
Speaker 1: to the rest.
40:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it definitely was great production. In
40:50
Speaker 2: NFL films, they always do a great job. So I
40:53
Speaker 2: was never worried about that or anything like that. Again,
40:56
Speaker 2: because I'm a hard knocks lifer and you you you
40:59
Speaker 2: took the about because they used to be way rougher
41:02
Speaker 2: around the edge. It's not just with cutting guys and
41:04
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but they used to be just more
41:06
Speaker 2: rough around the edges.
41:07
Speaker 1: I mean, camp used to be full pads pretty much
41:10
Speaker 1: the whole time, you know, and they were just banging.
41:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what did Thurman say? Thurman said, we would
41:14
Speaker 2: go we would go pads twice a day. He said this,
41:16
Speaker 2: and then the third and then the third practices the
41:19
Speaker 2: walk through you know what I mean, that type of thing.
41:20
Speaker 2: So it's funny to see how you know, it's interesting
41:23
Speaker 2: to see, excuse me, how the evolution comes and and
41:26
Speaker 2: how things changed throughout the years. It's funny because not
41:31
Speaker 2: only was Thurman being on their meet nostalgic, but then
41:34
Speaker 2: when I saw the way that Trey White was, I
41:37
Speaker 2: don't know, man, just you're at I don't know how
41:40
Speaker 2: to even describe it. Not it wasn't just him running
41:42
Speaker 2: up the hill. It was the fact that, like how
41:44
Speaker 2: he talked about Buffalo. Then he's at the damn ice
41:47
Speaker 2: cream parlor and he's wilid out, you know what I
41:49
Speaker 2: mean with Christian Bedford and he's you know, he said,
41:52
Speaker 2: let me buy twenty five of my of my my
41:55
Speaker 2: Brownie Sunday or cookie Sunday, and let me give it
41:58
Speaker 2: up to us, and like like all of that type
42:01
Speaker 2: of stuff is the is the little stuff that is
42:03
Speaker 2: really really cool to me, and you're app you hit
42:05
Speaker 2: it on the head. I was gonna talk about Trade
42:07
Speaker 2: White because my niece knows his his uh, his wife,
42:10
Speaker 2: his fiance through her hair business and stuff like that,
42:14
Speaker 2: and like, you know, shout out to ling Wings and
42:17
Speaker 2: I was like man. I was so sad when he
42:19
Speaker 2: left because but it was necessary. We talked about it
42:22
Speaker 2: was that that red day, you know, where all the
42:24
Speaker 2: guys go, and it was sad. And then to hear
42:27
Speaker 2: that he's back, and then he's not only back, but
42:30
Speaker 2: he's balling made me feel so much better, not just
42:33
Speaker 2: because of the fact that, you know, it hurts that
42:36
Speaker 2: Max Harriston got hurt and he's the first round pick
42:38
Speaker 2: and he's got the elite speed, and I hope that
42:40
Speaker 2: he's okay, and clearly he didn't tear anything, so he's
42:42
Speaker 2: going to be back in a few weeks, that type
42:44
Speaker 2: of thing. But reports out of Camp DT was that
42:47
Speaker 2: was that Trey was already winning that job to begin with.
42:50
Speaker 2: It was gonna be the rookie that had to learn
42:52
Speaker 2: from the you know, and and and learn and and
42:55
Speaker 2: sit because of the fact that Trade was balling so hard.
42:58
Speaker 2: I am so proud of the fact that he is balling,
43:01
Speaker 2: that he's healthy, that he's feeling good in his body,
43:03
Speaker 2: because you are, you hit it on the head. He
43:05
Speaker 2: is a He's a Bill's Wall of Famer all day.
43:07
Speaker 2: If you put Hide and Poyer together on the Wall
43:11
Speaker 2: of Fame, then you better be putting Trey White on
43:13
Speaker 2: their Kyle Williams on there. You got to be putting
43:15
Speaker 2: those guys on there, because they laid the foundation they are.
43:18
Speaker 2: That's Brandon Bean's excuse me, that's Sean McDermott's first draft pick.
43:22
Speaker 2: That's before Josh that same year was Deon Dowkers, right,
43:25
Speaker 2: Deon Dakers was second round. It was Trey and then Dion, Like,
43:28
Speaker 2: these guys laid the foundation. So to see Trey White
43:32
Speaker 2: being so healthy, back in good spirits, back in Buffalo
43:36
Speaker 2: where he belongs, and then when I saw him run
43:38
Speaker 2: up the hill, I was like, man, this dude gives
43:40
Speaker 2: a shit, and he gives a shit, and it made
43:43
Speaker 2: me feel it just made me feel proud man, that
43:46
Speaker 2: he's on my team, that he's a part of my team.
43:48
Speaker 2: And I was really really, I think I was just more.
43:51
Speaker 2: I was most happy that he's healthy and that he's
43:53
Speaker 2: not like, you know, with the washed up for you know,
43:55
Speaker 2: the guy comes back, he's washed up, you know what
43:58
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't have anything left. But it's more ceremonial.
44:01
Speaker 2: This is not ceremonial. They said that this dude was
44:03
Speaker 2: already played out playing Maxwell Harriston you know what I mean,
44:06
Speaker 2: in the in the actual training camp practices, and that
44:08
Speaker 2: Max was gonna have to go ahead and earn it
44:10
Speaker 2: before he got hurt. So it makes me feel just
44:12
Speaker 2: a little bit better if that. I don't know if
44:14
Speaker 2: that makes sense, but but it makes sense to me
44:16
Speaker 2: big time.
44:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, may come in make plays. I had, you know,
44:20
Speaker 1: very low expectations to this. We don't know. Still, we
44:22
Speaker 1: got to see week one. I don't I need Maxwell
44:25
Speaker 1: Harrison back. We talked with UH with coach coach Oliver
44:29
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago on the depth.
44:31
Speaker 2: The depth.
44:31
Speaker 1: We finally aren't getting some depth now, but we need
44:34
Speaker 1: that depth there because I don't see Trey White, you know,
44:37
Speaker 1: dominating for seventeen week season. You know there's gonna be
44:40
Speaker 1: there's gonna be ups and downs, There's gonna be fatigued
44:43
Speaker 1: there there hopes another injury, but all possible. So yeah,
44:46
Speaker 1: I want to see the depth. But it was buttoned up, man.
44:49
Speaker 1: The team looks buttoned up.
44:50
Speaker 2: The it.
44:51
Speaker 1: They talked process, they talk culture, and obviously it's that
44:54
Speaker 1: they were fluffing it up and the Bills see everything
44:57
Speaker 1: that before it goes out. But this organization look tight.
45:00
Speaker 1: Everybody's on the same page. It's well run, it's led
45:03
Speaker 1: by the best quarterback in the world. I think it's
45:06
Speaker 1: the world saw that it's not just talent, that good
45:10
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL aren't just talent. It's got to
45:12
Speaker 1: be a full culture. And the Buffle, I think the
45:14
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill showed that they have the great culture. Uh
45:17
Speaker 1: to the whole world on Tuesday night.
45:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's really exciting. I really enjoyed Trey White
45:24
Speaker 2: for sure. I enjoyed the show for sure. I mean,
45:26
Speaker 2: I know it was a little bit lollipop, but I
45:29
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. And I think that I'll be surprised, like
45:32
Speaker 2: I said, I'll be surprised if they don't talk like
45:34
Speaker 2: that's a that's a livestriver, you know, coming back from
45:38
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, a payout view. And then
45:40
Speaker 2: he's got they got to keep it real, like you know,
45:42
Speaker 2: their top offensive player outside of Josh Allen is not
45:46
Speaker 2: there in camp. He came, then he went out, Like
45:49
Speaker 2: they've got to touch on it a little bit. So
45:50
Speaker 2: we'll see how much editorial control, like I said, the
45:53
Speaker 2: Bills have if they if they completely blackball James Cook
45:57
Speaker 2: from next episode, then you'll know that it is uh,
46:00
Speaker 2: it's a propaganda for sure. They are running a bills embedded.
46:02
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily want to see that, but I did
46:05
Speaker 2: like seeing, you know, just the coaches and stuff like that.
46:08
Speaker 2: I heard on WGR this week, like it's good to
46:09
Speaker 2: hear the coach's curses, like you know, you know what
46:12
Speaker 2: I mean, Like you already should assume that they talk
46:14
Speaker 2: like that. They talk like just all the other coaches
46:16
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. They're real people. Joe Brady is
46:19
Speaker 2: a real person. Sometimes you use curse words to accentuate
46:22
Speaker 2: what you're trying to say, accentuate your point, and I
46:27
Speaker 2: do that, you know what I mean, And like I
46:28
Speaker 2: don't have any problem with that or anything like that.
46:29
Speaker 2: I'm intelligent enough not to use curse words, but sometimes
46:33
Speaker 2: it's just easiest to, you know, to accentuate, you know,
46:37
Speaker 2: you know, your point with just some curse words. So
46:39
Speaker 2: it was cool to see that they're human, they're regular people.
46:41
Speaker 2: I did love that Bobby Babbage thing. You told Joey
46:44
Speaker 2: Bosa and Joey's the newest guy on the D. He
46:47
Speaker 2: do not even come close to seventeen, he said. We
46:50
Speaker 2: know that he runs everything in respects to the off
46:53
Speaker 2: you know, he kept it respectful with the offense, but
46:55
Speaker 2: he really could have said, the team down, it's gonna
47:00
Speaker 2: be a problem for all of us, so don't even
47:02
Speaker 2: come close to them. So I really, I really enjoyed
47:05
Speaker 2: that party. It was funny to me. I enjoyed it.
47:07
Speaker 2: Listen as we wrap up tonight, DT, I really enjoy
47:11
Speaker 2: and and really appreciate you coming on tonight. I know
47:13
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Speaker 1: What?
48:45
Speaker 2: Why couldn't we record tomorrow?
48:47
Speaker 1: What you were?
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Speaker 2: What we got going?
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Speaker 1: Were? Wheels up? We're wheels up heading southwest. I guess
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Speaker 1: Looking forward to it. Weekend full of activities and starts
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Speaker 1: off quick. Tomorrow. We're out in early picking the boys up,
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Speaker 1: hitting the golf course and let it ride. Really looking
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Speaker 1: forward to it.
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Speaker 2: Good, good, good, Please enjoy it out there this weekend.
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Speaker 2: I I am literally just with the princesses this weekend. So,
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Speaker 2: I mean, like the the Kings are all hanging out.
49:32
Speaker 2: Bobby and Nate went to see their point. Their mother
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Speaker 2: sent me. She said, YouTube this ride, YouTube this ride.
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm looking at these rides and I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I love roller coasters and I might get queasy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I play snow joke. That play snow joke.
49:47
Speaker 2: I said what I said. She's like, this one was
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Speaker 2: a T T two and she's like, your son held
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Speaker 2: his hands the entire time up in the air. And
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Speaker 2: when I watched this shit on YouTube, I got queezy.
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Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck are they go up
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Speaker 2: and then back and then up and around. I was
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Speaker 2: like yo and flipping. I was like, yo, man, this
50:04
Speaker 2: is way too much. Then they have won like a predator,
50:06
Speaker 2: like the predator back in Darien Lake, but it's wooden
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Speaker 2: and that is only similarity because it is not the predator.
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Speaker 2: They are going all over. I was like, yo, man,
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Speaker 2: this is I said, this might be too much for
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Speaker 2: me and I love roller coaster. So the boys are
50:20
Speaker 2: in Cedar Point. They just went to Buffalo. They'll be
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Speaker 2: back next week. I've got little Quincy with me and
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Speaker 2: the princesses. Man, so I'll be chilling this weekend. DT.
50:28
Speaker 2: Not a lot going on. It's slow motion. It's it's
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Speaker 2: pre season DT. I'm just chilling. I'll watch the game.
50:34
Speaker 2: I'll put the game on NFL Network on Sunday. I'll
50:37
Speaker 2: just you know, it's all preseason right now. I am.
50:40
Speaker 2: I am locked in. I am ready. It's funny because
50:44
Speaker 2: I was driving over from work today and I know
50:46
Speaker 2: the listeners will listen on Friday. On Thursday, somebody called
50:49
Speaker 2: in and said one thing about Sean McDermott, and when
50:52
Speaker 2: I tell you that, it sparked a conversation that with
50:56
Speaker 2: spanning an entire hour of WGR of the Afternoon Show.
51:00
Speaker 2: It was so funny because it was Bulldog and then
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Speaker 2: Nate Geary, who's a friend of the show. We're gonna
51:05
Speaker 2: have him back on as well. He's already been on
51:07
Speaker 2: the show a couple of times. And it's just it's
51:10
Speaker 2: so funny how you could say one thing and then
51:14
Speaker 2: all of a sudden people just the phone start ringing,
51:16
Speaker 2: and half of them are defending McDermott, half of them
51:19
Speaker 2: are ready to fire him, you know what. And it
51:20
Speaker 2: was just it was so funny to see the dichotomy
51:23
Speaker 2: because he's still a polarizing figure among Bill's mafia, and
51:27
Speaker 2: for good reason, for sure, but it was it was
51:29
Speaker 2: just so funny because I thought of you as I
51:31
Speaker 2: was literally driving home from work in the rain here
51:34
Speaker 2: in Charlotte, so which means that the traffic slows down
51:37
Speaker 2: and everybody's being all cautious and all this other stuff.
51:39
Speaker 2: And yeah, one dude called up talking about McDermott. The
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Speaker 2: Bulldog defended him, and then it was just a flow.
51:47
Speaker 2: It was like an hour, a florry of calls both
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Speaker 2: ways on each side of the fence, and some guys
51:51
Speaker 2: sounded like me, Some guys sounded like, you know, the
51:53
Speaker 2: Staunches McDermott Defenders, and it was just so funny to
51:56
Speaker 2: just listen to it. I was like, man, this is
51:58
Speaker 2: this is Bill's We are anxious, We're on the edge
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Speaker 2: of our seats. We're ready, We're ready for a parade.
52:05
Speaker 2: We've put in our work, We've paid our dues, you
52:08
Speaker 2: know what I mean, DT and like it's the fan Bay.
52:12
Speaker 2: We're just itching, man. And as it we get closer
52:14
Speaker 2: to Baltimore Sunday Night football, we're itching. What did I say,
52:18
Speaker 2: I'm just looking for that number one seed and then
52:20
Speaker 2: let me just see what that looks like. I've seen
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Speaker 2: what everything else looks like. I've seen on the road
52:24
Speaker 2: to Kansas City. What did we say, Let's wake them
52:27
Speaker 2: up in the middle of the night with a fire
52:28
Speaker 2: alarm pole. We've seen them in Buffalo and you and
52:31
Speaker 2: I sat there. We've seen you know, Cincinnati. We've seen
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Speaker 2: pretty much everything except the number one seed. Let's not
52:36
Speaker 2: even play that first weekend Bill's Mafia. Let's not even
52:39
Speaker 2: play that first weekend nicol City Crew, and let's see
52:43
Speaker 2: if that helps us out. I don't know, some funky
52:45
Speaker 2: shit could happen on wild Card weekend. You never know.
52:47
Speaker 2: I think that that's where I'm laying my chips. DT.
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Speaker 1: I agree, and I love that, but I'll reverse it.
52:52
Speaker 1: We gotta go day by day. We gotta go week
52:54
Speaker 1: by week. This week big preseason one, get out there,
52:58
Speaker 1: earn some spots, create intensity. Like I said, it's we
53:02
Speaker 1: saw in Hard Knocks. It's a culture, it's a lifestyle.
53:04
Speaker 1: It's every day and they have to live this every
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Speaker 1: day to be there in February. So each day, baby
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Speaker 1: one and O starting this week, I love it.
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Speaker 2: I love it. DT always keeps me on a level
53:15
Speaker 2: playing field, always keeps my head even keel. I love it. Man.
53:19
Speaker 2: Listen out there, listen, Bills Boffi. We really appreciate you
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Speaker 2: tonight joining us again. We will release this tomorrow. Shout
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Speaker 2: out to our creative director Olivia Nagel, who will make
53:28
Speaker 2: sure that you guys all get your normal weekly fix
53:31
Speaker 2: of nicol City Crew. We'll release that tomorrow for you guys,
53:33
Speaker 2: But for the lifers who are on here on the
53:35
Speaker 2: chat and watching us, we really appreciate you guys tonight.
53:38
Speaker 2: Listen out there, spread love not hate. These were my
53:41
Speaker 2: bills thoughts, set out loud hit them with a gold
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Speaker 2: bills DT hit them.
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Speaker 1: Go bills thirty days, Go bills, gold mills thirty days.
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Speaker 2: I like that I can relate to that go bills.
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Speaker 2: Love