Latest / Chuck in the Morning / Best of Chuck & Buck 5-7

Transcript

Best of Chuck & Buck 5-7 · Chuck in the Morning

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Chaos.
• 0:02
  Speaker 2: Let the games begin, and now.
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Game Meat broadcasting live from the city of Champion now
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: the World champions Point, Crystal Clear FM Stereo new stereomonic
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: sound spectacular, all right stuff.
• 0:17
  Speaker 3: The next four hours are powered by the Juliana Freezort
• 0:20
  Speaker 3: Casino Drift King Sports Book.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: You got off now we've got them home? Guy, where
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: the action never stopped? Are you writing this down? Something complete?
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: This is Chucking Buck in the Morning. What's up like you?
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: People are beyond you too. Let's get the game off.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning and welcome in. It is the Thursday
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: edition up Chucking Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: three point three kJ R f M. Great to have
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: you with us. He yere on this beautiful Thursday or
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: Thursday morning, here afternoon, Thursday morning here in the Pacific Northwest.
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: It is Chuck Powell, it is Ashley Ryan with you.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: It is Chuck and Buck in the Morning. Still no
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: Bucky Jacobson, he's out for a little while longer. And
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: so we welcome you to our Thursday show four hours.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: We take it till ten o'clock today, and we have
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: much much to discuss on today's radio program. And so
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: it is great to have you with us. I would
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: like to just bring up something, and I know I
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: shouldn't do this to start the show, but I just
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: heard this, like right as I was pulling into the
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: garage downstairs, and it's another show. I know I shouldn't
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: do this, But why is it that their talk show
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: hosts will bring up by themselves something like the Lebron
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: James debate and then say, I'm so sick of it,
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: Like you were talking about the Cavaliers series with the Pistons.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: No one brought it up but you. So why are
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: you bringing up something that you're sick of just to
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: have a debate again? So I just heard that. Ye
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: can we talk about this Lebron James Michael Jordan debate
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: right in the middle of the NBA playoffs even though
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: no one else is talking about it. I'm sick of it,
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: sick of it, so tired of people talking about this.
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: Stop talking about it? Please.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: Oh It's like, can we please stop comparing peanut butter
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: and jelly. I'm so sick of every time people are
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: arguing over which is more important.
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: To the sandwich.
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, No one's arguing that they have to go together.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: I'm so tired of the peanut butter and jelly debate,
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: which is why I'm bringing it up in the middle
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: of your question about the NFL. Ah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: I'll say there's a lot of stupidity on the shows
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: before us.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: I'll agree with that. Oh hey, I also want to say,
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: before we dive into some things, I want to say this.
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: You do one of those deep dives. I don't know.
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't with a husband and a child. Maybe
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: you know they're running your running your ragged and you.
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: Don't have time most of the time.
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't have time to deep dive on things.
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: But every once in a while, I'll just end down
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: a road and I don't even want to. I don't
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: even like it, you know, like, you know, just looking
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: up sports stuff before I go to bed, just like,
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: is there anything that I missed that maybe I'll think
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: about and it will lull me to sleep. I am
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: a counting sheep kind of sleeper, okay, but I don't
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: count sheep. I usually think about something from the sports world,
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: and then I can feel my brain getting lazier.
• 3:44
  Speaker 4: I thought you're gonna say you count blue cars.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: No, I do. I like I come up with some
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: sports topic and then maybe make a list in my head.
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: And I can tell as my list is getting lazier
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: that my brain is getting sleepier. And it serves the
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: same purpose as counting sheep. So when I I can't sleep,
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: I usually do that. So I know they tell you
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: don't look at your electronics right before you go to bed,
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: but I tend to do it every night. Well, last
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: night I started looking at ten to fifteen and the
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: next thing I know, I look up and it's eleven fifteen.
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: And it's because I started down this path and you
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: never know when you get down these one of these wormholes.
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: But it was worth it last night because I was
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: reminded of something that somebody pointed out to me a
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago. There's along with Live this debate
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: about who's the greatest guitar player of all time? Yeah,
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: and everybody's got their own and you get around music
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: people and man, it'll it'll go on for hours, you know,
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Page versus Jimmy Hendricks, Keith Richards. No, No, it's
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: bb king, Come on, you can't. We're comparic blues guitar
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: player to a rock and roll you know Jack Black,
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: all you old farts, No way, it's got to be
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: Jack Black or you know, or Clark Junior.
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: A lot of guitar players.
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of great guitar players over time,
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: but the debate is over the greatest guitar player that
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: has ever lived, and it's not even close. There's this
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: twenty like five year old Polish kid named Marchen not kidding. Yeah,
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: that's what I found. And he's famous. It's not like
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: he's just doing it out of his basement. But if
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: you've not seen the video, trust me, I'm spending time
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: in our morning show. I am delaying my Brian Wu conversation.
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: I love this to give you something you're listening at home.
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: If you are bored, you will not regret this. His
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: name is Marchen is In, Marchen Gortat, the former big
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: Man of the Phoenix Suns, m a ar ci In.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: He is a Polish guitar player. And the thing about
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: the guy is that you know, like the guitar is made,
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: and you see people play guitar and they usually just
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: play the strings right, and then you're like, well doesn't
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: that seem like a waste? You know, I just always
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: assumed that the casing around it was no. Well yeah,
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: but I always assume like the casing around it was
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: just it was comfortable in your hands to play the strings,
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: like you can rest it on.
• 6:03
  Speaker 4: Your thigh or built for to facilitate the string.
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: Right, you don't only just carry around strings, So you've
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: got something like a vessel to carry around the strings
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: that you're playing on the guitar. Well, apparently, as originally designed,
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: the reason that they have that backboard is so that
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: you have a complete instrument. Oh okay, okay, So like
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: the bass is the bass, and then the strings are
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: the strings, and then you got a way to adjust
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: the strings obviously, and then and then you can use
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: percussion on the guitar, on the wood that holds the guitar,
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: or you know whatever, you know, metal, whatever you use.
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: This kid plays the whole guitar, the entire guitar, and
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: the sound that he creates is like you would have
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: you would have never imagined that you would create one
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: human being could create.
• 7:02
  Speaker 4: That much sound, and he does it all by himself.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: And he does it all by himself to the point
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: where people think that it is like it's fake. So
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: there's one video in particular, and I had to. I
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: practically woke up the unicorn to watch it. I know
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: you're I know you're in deep sleep, and you got
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: to see this. There's one video where he explains his process.
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: It is unbelievable. I mean, you got to see it.
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: The debate is over.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: You know, have you tweeted this out so that we can.
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: I never tweeted it out.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: Because then we can easily find it.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be one of those people that's helpful.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: But his name is Marching and his videos are everywhere.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: You can't miss them. But he's uh, he's remarkable. It
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: is one of the coolest things you'll ever see. I'm
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: going to find them, So watch it today. Yeah, and uh,
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: and let me know what you think. I'm telling you.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: This is one of those things where, like you hear
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: people suggest things that you should go check out and
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, yeah, whatever. Uh. This is one
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: of those where you're like, you will call five buddies,
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: You'll be like, you got to see this, or for
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: the next week and a half, everybody you run into,
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: you'll show them.
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's how good you are. I'm gonna find it.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: He's unreal. All right, we've got a thousand dollars Grand
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: Slam Cash contest. Word for you. It is coin co
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: I n enter that at ninety three three kjr dot com.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: For your shot at one thousand dollars in Grand Slam Cash,
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: it is coin c I n at ninety three three
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: kjr dot com. That does remind me. I used to
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: do this bit down in Phoenix because he was a
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: Phoenix son. Marchin Gortat admittedly difficult. Marchin Gortat trivia like
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: give me of that would be right exactly. So we
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: would bring people on and then we would play around
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: and it would be like, what is Marchin Gortat's mom's
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: favorite color? So we would ask things. There's no way
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: that anybody would ever get So then we had Marchin
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: Gortat on the show one times. So I played around
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: with him and he nailed it.
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: Oh he got it right.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Oh he nailed it. He was the only person to
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: ever get one right, was actually march and Gortat.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: But did you have any way of verifying these things?
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah he did.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: He did know his mom's favorite color.
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there were ways to find out. Yeah, I found
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: as obscure truthful fact about gor tat As I could
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: possibly find that no one would know because no one
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: did that kind of research. And then I would ask
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: them and then they were like, how would I know that?
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: And that was the point of it.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: That's really fun.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get into some Seattle sports talk here.
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Mariners. They did win last night.
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: We'll go through the details of the victory with Mariners
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: morning after coming up at six thirty. But I think
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: the headline yesterday was the bounce back from Brian Wu.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: He had had two inexplicably bad starts. He didn't seem
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: too bothered by it. I mean, I think the baseball
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: players have a lot easier time turning the page and
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: accepting a poor outing than what fans do. And so
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was all smile after both days, So
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: he wasn't worried about like I've lost it.
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's been smiles every day cheering on his team.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So there was no And I certainly didn't have
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: that feeling about him either. And then I think about
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Andre's Munno's I know a lot of people are worried
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: that he's lost it. I just got Greg bell as
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: I'm leaving the studio to hand it over to him
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: yesterday at ten o'clock. He goes, still believe in Munyos.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, yeah, why would I not? Like he's
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: droves a thousand and has one of the most unhittable
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: pitches in the sport the last two years, and yet
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: he can't harness it. So yeah, I'm not. I mean,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: And just just to illustrate, I don't just toe the
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: company line for the Mariners. There are a couple of
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: guys that what I'm seeing, I think age may have
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: caught up to them, and I'm not sure they're going
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: to rebound from the performance that we've seen so far
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: this year. We'll get to that in a moment. But
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: Andres Munjos, Brian Wu, I'm not worried about them. I
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: wasn't worried about them. And this is the sport of baseball,
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: and sometimes what we're what we have to and I
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: think we do forget about it sometimes is there could
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: be a multitude of things. First of all, luck does
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: play a part, you know. I mean, Andres Munjos probably
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't give up a run two appearances ago. If Julio
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't take his eye off the ball and let it
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: go between his legs and center field. Yeah, he gave
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: up a couple of hits that inning, But we've seen
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: Munjo's work out of trouble all the time. That's kind
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: of he's a strikeout pitcher and he gets out of traffic.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's not Fernando Rodney bad in terms of
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: I have to load the bases before I.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: Can really roller coaster experience dig in.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: But he does tend to put a runner or two
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: on base, and in the last game against Matt Olsen,
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: that's not anything I'm gonna worry about. The hottest power
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: hit in the sport hits a ball the other way
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: on a breaking ball, on a slide, on a ninety
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: miles per hour slider and knocks it out of the ballpark.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to say, man has a really
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: that's a really good hitter, really on his game, put
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: a really good swing on that ball.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: I mean you gotta tip your cap, yeah exactly.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: I mean when Pokin Nakua is lighting us up for
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: thirteen catches, sometimes it's because Poka Nakula is that good, right,
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: and Matt Stafford is that good, and it's not because
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: we don't have a cornerback. Where did our cornerback start sucking?
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: Our defense is terrible.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you do have to acknowledge that's a really
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: good player who's really hot right now, who put a
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: really good swing on not a great pitch from Andre's Munjoks,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: but he hit it the other way and out of
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: the ballpark. And just to further illustrate that point, Jose Ferrera.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Now it's now we've got this love affair with Jose Ferrera.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: And thank god for Jose Ferrera because we are down
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: two high leverage relievers right now, and for said, I
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: feel fine, give me the damn ball three days in
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: a row. I don't care. And he looks great. Yes,
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: so thank goodness for Jose A. Ferrer. But just to
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: illustrate it, were a lot of people are gonna come
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: on the airwaves today and praise Jose Ferrer, as they should.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: But he gave up a opposite field fly ball to
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: Matt Olsen that went to the wall last night too,
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: And because on a cold night versus a warm night, the.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: Ball doesn't carry as well, doesn't.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Carry ten feet further. Farrer is a hero, and we
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: are worried about Munyos. Well, I'm not worried about Munyos.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Same thing applies to Brian Wu. And so this is
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: somebody that really doesn't make it a mystery out there.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: He's not Logan, he's not Miller. They are constantly toying
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: with their pitches. Brian Wu has three pitches basically, and
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: he tries to perfect them, and he tries to them
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: in the right spots that work for him trial and
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: error over time. And this is what Brian Woodworth, excuse me,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Pete Woodworth does. This is what he did with Paul Sewall.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: This is what you do well, this is where you
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: get guys out. Don't be worried about doing it again,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: because until they prove they can hit it, you don't
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: have to worry about that. So what we're gonna do
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: is we're gonna throw you. We're gonna have you throw
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: to the zones where your most effective over time, and
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Brian Wu has pretty much perfected that over the course
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: of his young major league career. But that's a fine line.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: You miss by a little bit and suddenly that top
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: rail fastball, if you missed by an inch or two,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: can get clubbed. Also, when you don't have that wide
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: array of pitches, and you tend to establish patterns. Guess
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: what the offense is studying. Guess what their scouts are studying.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: This is what he does in this situation. He really
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't make it a mystery. He's coming out. So sometimes
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: hitters can jump and when you are facing a lineup,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: you're off just a little bit. They're so good at
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: the major league level they could take advantage of it.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: And then there's a third thing that has to be considered.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: And let's you know, lead in the Framber Valdez conversation
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: from yesterday, there are coaches on every staff that are
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: looking for you tipping pitches. Yeah, we have one. Danny Farquhar,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: the guy that blew the lid off of the Astros
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: garbage can scandal. We hired him not as a pitching coach,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: even though he was a pitcher. We hired him to
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: figure out not just are they tipping pitches? Is there
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: anything we can pick up on, but more effectively, as
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: a defensive strategy, to make sure we're not tipping pitches.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: We're not giving away any information. This is going on,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: This has been going on since the beginning of time
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: in baseball, and there might be there might be a
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: situation where both MoU Wu and mun Yos are tipping pitches.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: We don't know for a fact, but i'll guarantee you
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: after two bad starts from Brian Wu, he's walking off
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: the mount saying, Okay, what am I giving away? What
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: are they picking up on? Because I'm giving something? And
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: so the study went. They put on the film, and
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: while Danny Farquhar's flying from one city to the next
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: on a plane, he's got a cocktail I'm sure sitting
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: next to him. Maybe he doesn't drink. He's got you
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: who sitting next to him, and he's watching video and
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out, all right, we've got to get
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: our all star pitcher back on track. What's he giving away?
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Because I just don't think overnight he gets hit hard
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: like that. And so here you have a game yesterday
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: he takes on the hottest hitting team in the entire sport,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: and Brian Wu, in the words of Bucky Jacobson, shoves
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: it yesterday. Was he just better yesterday? That could be?
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: That could be where the Braves just a little worse yesterday.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: That could be last game of a series, could be
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: or this also could be they figured out what he
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: was giving away. He took that away from the braves,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: and then they had to go in there blind against him,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: and he dominated like we've expected him to do. So
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that go into this,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: But I just look at velocity. I see Brian wou
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Be in the same picture he's been when he's had success.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I see Andres Munnos sliders off a little bit. He's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: still throwing hard, still striking out one in three quarters
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: hitters per inning, still dominating right handers. There's something off
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: about him, but certainly I'm not seeing anything that makes
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: me worry.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: No, And I mean I did. The fact that brian
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Wu had two back to back bad outings concerned me,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: but not in the way that I thought brian Wu
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: had lost it. I just couldn't figure out what it
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: is that would cause him to have the two back
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: to back bad outings. But then when we heard them say, like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: we got to figure out what's happening? Is he tipping
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: pitches like you just brought up. So the fact that
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: they were able to figure that out from his last
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: poor start till yesterday great, and that then we shouldn't
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: be overly concerned about if our pitchers have a couple
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: of bad games or have a bad game, because clearly
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the pitching staff is on it to make sure that
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: all of those things get righted quickly. And when you
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: think about it a picture and their routine and the
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: things they do, it probably after time you do start
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: to accidentally tip things because you're setting up the same
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: you're doing all these things.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: And you get into habits patterns, so does cows you're
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: doing Yeah, exactly, So I mean, good on Farquhar for
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: figuring it out because it sure worked yesterday. And maybe
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that's not the solution. Maybe that's not, but it could be. Yeah,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: maybe that is what he was doing. I mean, it
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: might be something else. Maybe the catcher's giving something away.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: That's something that we never talk about, but sometimes the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: way that the catcher receives they can give something away.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I think Pete Woodworth is one of the best. I mean,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I watched this game for a long time and and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: it is kind of crazy when a pitching coach can
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: go out the mound to a struggling pitcher and say
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: something and we don't know what they say with and
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: then they walk back in the dugout and they fixed it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: And he's not the only one that does it, but
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: he might be the best one I've ever seen do it. Yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: so you give yourself five days. You know, Okay, this
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: is back to back bad starts from Brian. We're not
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: used to seeing that. All right, what is wrong? And
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: maybe it's tipping pitches, Maybe it's just a slight adjustment,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's maybe it's a pattern that we've fallen into
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and hitters have figured out the pattern, whatever that case
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: may be. I think that's what what was creating Wu's problems,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: and I think that's what's creating Andre's Munno's problems. There
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: are a couple of guys, and I said it on
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: this team that I do wonder. I know they're not
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: going to reverse age. I know Pete Crawford is not
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: going to get laterally quicker. The rest of the season
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: seems to be an issue to me. I don't think
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo's going to recapture his stuff from three years ago.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen. I think he's on
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: the down side now as he slid as far should
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: he have slid as far as he has this season. No,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I think he can be better, certainly than what he's
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: been this year, but his days of being elite are
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: probably over. So I'm I'm not gonna make excuses for
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: all of the Mariners players that have had issues so
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: far this year. I'm concerned about those two guys I've
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: never been and I won't be concerned about Wu and Munjos.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I think they're both going to be great before the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: season comes to a close. All right, let's find out
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: what's on tap for the rest of the show. What's
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: on TEP? What's untep? All Right? Mariners win over the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves three to one yesterday. They do take two
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: out of three in the series, bill an unimpressive eighteen
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and twenty record thirty eight games into the year, but
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to get well on the road. They'll be
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: at Chicago against the White Sox, who's been better this
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: year but certainly not considered one of the better teams
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. So we'll start previewing that today.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: They won't play until tomorrow night. Brendan Donovan could be
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: activated in time four that series, which is an interesting
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: dynamic which we will discuss a little bit later on
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in the program. Bryce Miller pitched in Everett got some
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: kind of lukewarm results, but they're not really looking for
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: him to stuff the stat sheet. He's working on things
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: he's trying to extend. They're getting close to a decision.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I think he'll probably have one more reab start and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: then it will be time to make that decision on
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: what we're going to do with the rotation going forward.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: We're going to discuss it again today at eight o'clock
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: because I've had a hitting expert on this week and
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I've had a pitching expert on this week who have
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: weighed in on what should be done with the going forward.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So we're going to put those side by side later
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: on in the show at eight o'clock. The MLB as
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: a suspended Framber Valdez for five games. Certainly had a
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: lively conversation about that yesterday, so we'll pick that conversation
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: up today. At some point, the Jets and not the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Savannah Bananas have made an offer to Russell Wilson, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: so suddenly Russell's got a decision to make. Do I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: want to be Gino Smith's backup, or do I want
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to launch my undoubted superstar career as a studio analyst.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I hope we got it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I hope he wants to be Gino's backup.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later on in the show as well.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Playoffs, Buffalo over Montreal four to two. The
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Sabers are up one to zero in that series. Anah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I'm even their series with Las Vegas last night with
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a three to one win. Tonight, Carolina looks to go
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: up three to zero, but Philadelphia gets to host a
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: game for the first time in the series. They'll drop
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the Pucket five. NBA Playoffs Philadelphia without Joel Embiid certainly
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: gave New York fits last night, but the Knicks do
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: move up two to oh on Philly with a one
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: eight one oh two win. Meanwhile, San Antonio, I think
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Minnesota came and did what they wanted to do, which
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: is when a game in San Antonio. They didn't really
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: show up. Last night. The Spurs ran them off the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: court one thirty three to ninety five. Tonight, Cleveland at
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Detroit and the Lakers will be at OKC. Speaking of
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the NBA, we haven't had the chance to chat with
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the legendary Chris Daniels about the Sonics. If there's breaking news.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: He always seems to be on somebody else's show, So
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: we're gonna take this little lull to just check in
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: with him. Where do we sit with the Sonics? So
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: we're going to do that today at nine o'clock with
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: our friend Chris Daniels. Coming up next though, on our
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: radio program, we will have details from yesterday's Mariners win
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: over the Braves. It's Mariners Morning after on Chuck and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Ain't the right field, they said, neither is his way home.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Calling Young stands up at second bags. He delivers in
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: the eighth inn a three one Mariners lead.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: The three two strong three couple. It's over, Dubon challenging.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Now it's over. The Mariners take two out of three.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: It's really it feels like that of a landmark series win,
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: doesn't it for the Mariners against.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: The best team at baseball? They had the Atlanta.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: Braves their first series loss of the year, and I
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: bounced back series with the.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Marrner Americers win yesterday with the Atlanta Braves. Aaron and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: on the call, Dave with the laugh Mariners TV Yesterday afternoon.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: It's a three to one win. Brian Wu was fantastic
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: yesterday against the Red Hot Braves. The lineup and the
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Mariners still struggling a bit offensively, but had enough juice
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: yesterday to win at three to one, take the series
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: two games to one, and now we'll have a day off,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: head to Chicago to take on the White Sox and
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: then the Astros on a road trip. And so we
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: welcome you into our number two Chucking Back in the Morning.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Ashley Ryan is here.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: My name is Chuck Powell, and we have a lot
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: to cover here before the day comes to a close,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: but certainly we're gonna start with your frost brewed Corse
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Liked Choose Chill headlines before we get out of the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Mariners game. You know what I really like about Josh Naylor.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: You just get the impression that Josh Naylor is so
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: comfortable being Josh Naylor. I love people like this. I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: think he's so thoughtful. I think I think he's got
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: some flaws. I think he ows his flaws, and I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: think but he owns his flaws too. But there's just
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: like such this confidence in what I think I'm capable
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: of I mean, he is not supposed to be a
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: base stealer. What he did with us last year was
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: not supposed to happen. Yes, he is not supposed to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: steal thirty bags in a game and not ever get
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: caught stealing. He's not fast, and yet he showed up
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: this year. I mean, I talking to my buddies before
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the year started. What's this deal with the Naylor based stealing.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, he's gonna steal twenty again this year. No
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: he's not. Yes he is. He is going to see.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: You pretty every time, right, But he's.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Slow, Yes he is. He's slow, but he's also probably
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the most instinctive baseball player in the galaxy right now.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And so you are told you're chubby, you're slow, you
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be stealing bases. And then you've got caught stealing
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: twice in one game a week ago. And that sometimes
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: will work on a play. It will take a fast
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: guy a little while to get over that. Yeah, and
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: then he's like, no, no, next chance I get. I
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: want to steal as many bags as I can. He's
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: stolen three bases in the last two days.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: He's like, and if I have to face plant while
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I'm doing it, so be it. Yeah, exactly.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: He always got hurt in his tire uniform was like
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: covered in mud.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: He goes like face and then button feet up in
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: the ear. I was like, oh my god, he just
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: broke his neck and back and everything.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: We got all these injuries. We're like, oh, now what
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And then Naylor's like dusting himself off, taking the mud
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: out of his face.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: He's like, how much dirt's in the pants?
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: When can I do this again?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: That was fun?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I love him. All right, let's take a
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: look at the rest of your headlines. Mariners will be
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: having a day off today, They'll be in Chicago take
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: on the White Sox tomorrow. There's a good chance, I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: think a very good chance, Brendan Donovan will be ready
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: to suit up on Friday. Bryce Miller probably is going
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: to have one more tune up, and then the decision
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: comes as to what we're going to do with Bryce Miller,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: what the rotation is going to look like. He pitched
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: an effort last night. Statistics weren't overwhelming, but the velocity
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: was where it needed to be, and so it looks
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: like Bryce will be back on the roster soon. Franber
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Valdez was suspended five games for intentionally throwing at Trevor's story.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: He's still in denial about it. His own teammates have
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: said he did it on purpose. Own manager did it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know I've ever seen that. That's the thing too,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: is you did it. We all know you did it
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: on purpose. Just admit it, because then at least it's like, yeah.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I did it. I was pissed. Okay, there you go.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: It's not really a suspension. It is the ultimate slap
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: on the wrist. I mean, a starting pitcher only pitches
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: every five days, so he really didn't even get punished.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: No, you know, no, it's yeah, it's just, hey, we
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: saw what you did. We didn't like it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just and I think maybe some money comes
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: out of his pocket in that equation. So that's really
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the punishment. But it's probably a benefit to the Tigers.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Then you're like, well, we can slide you back a day.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It's a big deal. So he didn't. Really it's kind
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: of a slap on the wrist really for his actions.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless five games. I mean he'll appeel and then
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the Tigers will time it because you don't even have to.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You get to do it on your terms. So they'll
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: time it when they just want him to get an
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: extra day's rest, and that's probably when they activate Troy
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Melton off the IL in about three weeks. So it's
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: really not much of a punishment against the Tigers at all.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Jets not the Bananas made an offer to Russell. Wilson
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: will talk more about this later on this hour. So
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: it looks like Russell's deciding between whether or not he
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: wants to give up football and become a professional broadcaster,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: which apparently there's an offer on the table there as well,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: or if he really does want to swallow his pride,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: which I'm not sure ever interferes with him and be
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Gino Smith's backup for the other New York team this
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: upcoming year. We shall see. Stay tuned.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Third option. I want him to just be a Savannah Banana, full.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Time Savannah Banana. I think that'd be great. You want
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: to talk about just saying, you know what, I want
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to have some fun. Yeah, and I didn't get to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: play baseball. I didn't get to play baseball. I didn't
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: get to ever scratch that itch. This was fun. They
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: sell out every damn stadium.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm a cheesy dude. This is right up
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: my alley.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I got to learn to backflip and dance though, because
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you can't dance.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: No, but that's even better.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Playoffs. Last night Buffalo four two winners over Montreal,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: so they're up one zero in that series. Anaheim even
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: things up with Vegas last night. Carolina can go up
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: three to zero on Philadelphia today at five, there'll drop
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the puck. NBA Playoffs. Philadelphia gave New York a much
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: better game last night, but without Joel Embiid probably was
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the difference. The Knicks win, so they're up two oho
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: in that series, and the Spurs beat up on the
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Timberwolves one thirty three to ninety five. That series is
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: now at one game apiece. Cleveland at Detroit and the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Lakers at OKC tonight, and then just quickly, WNBA regular
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: season will begin on Friday. The Storm will be in
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: action on Friday against Golden State Sounders taking on San
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Diego this weekend. One of the new franchises and Golden
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Tempo has decided this is really bad for horse racing.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: They keep having Kentucky Derby winners. Not wanting to run
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: for the triple Crown.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: But apparently they move the race up or something the
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: next race.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Golden Tempo's not gonna run in the Preakness, so we're
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: not going to have a triple crown winner. We know
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that that mom. All right, So there you go. Those
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: are your frost Brewed course light, Choose Chill headlines. We
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: also have a cash word for you. It's Media M
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: E D. I A enter that at ninety three three
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: KJR dot com for your shot at one thousand dollars
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: in Grand Slam cash. That's Media at ninety three three
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: KJR dot com. All right, let's talk about trades, okay this.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I love trades. I do love trades. I love the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: puzzle making aspect of sports. It's really the thing. It's
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the reason I became a sports fan. I just love
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: how the pieces come together. So you probably noticed that
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I talk about trades a lot and roster moves and
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: things of that nature. And you probably really notice it
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: when Bucky's not around, because it really lets me to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: get all of my ener gm out. And I'm going
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: to just go ahead and profess this right off the bat.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I understand how the pieces
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: move in baseball. I think I got a really good
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: grasp on that. Think I understand trade value. I think
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I understand I know the prospects. I think I know
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: how trades work, how the trades that move back and forth,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: what is equal value? I think I got a pretty
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: good grasp on that. I think I got a decent
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: grasp on the National Football League as well. Decent grasp
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Okay there. I think I could even make an NBA
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: trade if I can figure out the math. But the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: NHL not so sure I can do this that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, fair, Okay, yeah, we have more to learn.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I do have a grasp on what
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: true NHL trade value is is. And so I am
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: coming at this from an amateurish point of view, amateur
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: GM point of view. That said, I think the next
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: big blockbuster trade that we're going to experience here in
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Seattle has to come from our hockey team. I mean,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the Mariners are going to do something. It's going to
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: be at the trading deadline. So we got to wait
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: till July, probably July mid July to late July before
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: we see a significant Mariner's trade. Maybe they do something earlier,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: but I doubt it, and I don't think that there
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: is a blockbuster trade in the cards for the Seahawks,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And certainly we have to get a basketball team before
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: we can make a move.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: But I think the Kraken have to make a significant
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: trade this offseason. Yesterday I had Mike Menton on the
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: radio program and we were talking. The idea for having
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: bent On was to talk about the draft. The lottery
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: was determined. The Kraken did not win the lottery. They
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: actually fell in the standings one spot, so they had
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the six best odds at getting the top pick. They
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: ended up with the seventh pick in the draft. Well,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of draft picks. I've been hearing
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: about all our draft picks that Ron Francis and Jason
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Botrel and stockpiling. Yeah, just stockpiling all these picks, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: it's gonna set us up so well for the future.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: And yet the team just seems to be the same
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: team year after year, just underachieving, and we continue to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: bring up the same conversations. Really hard to get one
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: of those Connor McDavid difference maker types, one of those
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: guys you can count on a goal a point a
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: night kind of guy. That's a hard guy to get
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: in the National Hockey League. Are we trying Are we
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: trying hard enough? Are we just focusing our attention on
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: stockpiling draft picks.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: It seems like we're focusing on trying to find that person,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: but like through the draft, through the draft, but you're not.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's you don't hit that every year.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: You don't have one of those every year.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Well, if they're that special, you're gonna have to finish last.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: To Everett's point, I mean we finished with the second.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: We had the second overall pick at one point and
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: got Maddy Benier's I don't think he's going to be
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a really good player for
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a really long time. I don't know we're ever gonna
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: say Matty Beaniers is a great player. He's that difference maker.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: He's the Connor Bernard, He's not the celebrini in San Jose.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's what he's going to be. Shane
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Wright was talked about as being the number one overall
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: pick when he came out, but he slid for a reason,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and maybe we're seeing those reasons I mean Lane Lambert.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: He was in Lane Lambert's doghouse this year. There was
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: no question about that. He went from I mean at
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, this was the guy that
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: was supposed to lead us in points this year. That's
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: that's what Shane Wright was being described as. You know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: enough of the veterans Everly and McCann and Schwartz being
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the goals and assists leaders on this team, it's time
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: for Shane Wright to kind of take that over. And
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: then by the end of the year he's skating on
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the damn fourth line. So obviously they don't like what
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: they see out of Shane Wright as an organization. Lane
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Lambert certainly doesn't. And maybe those are some of the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: reasons that came to light for the Kraken this year
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: why he ended up not being the number one overall
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: pick despite his talent. Because he does have an immense
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: talent this year. And so with that being said, if
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: you can't draft him, you're not gonna get him at
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: pick number seven. Because in the NHL they got a
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: pretty good ability to identify who is one of those
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: kind of difference maker kind of players, and you probably
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: have to have the number one overall pick to get him,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and it sounds like Toronto has one in McKenna. They
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: won the NHL lottery yesterday and this number one overall pick,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: McKenna is supposed to be one of those guys. Yes, yeah,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: all right, So if Toronto's getting one of those guys
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and they're tired of the last guy, they got number
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: one one overall.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: In some shocking twist of ending up with the number
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: one pick the two times they've had the lottery.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Right exactly, Well, then Austin Matthews is not all that old.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: He's twenty nine years old. I mean, he's had a
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: receding airline for a while, but so did Lebron. Yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: you know, he looks he looks older than twenty eight,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: but he's only twenty eight. This will be his age
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: twenty nine season coming up this year for the Toronto
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Maple Leafs, who right now are embarrassed that they're even
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: a position to have the fifth best odds in the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: NHL lottery. They're getting further and further away from that
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: elusive Stanley Cup championship that they just cannot win. And
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: hockey crazed Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and so there seems to
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: be a bit of a groundswell in Toronto against their
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: superstar player, Austin Matthews. There are a lot of Maple
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Leaf fans that have had enough and his game has
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: fallen off each of the last couple of years. He
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: didn't even get to thirty goals this past season. So
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: when I chatted with Mike Benton, we ended up talking
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: about Austin Matthews, and so I asked Mike what would
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: it take to get Matthews from Toronto. Obviously it's gonna
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: start with the seventh overall pick in the draft.
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: I think you have to start there and go a
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: bit higher. And I'm talking about multiple picks, Chuck, I'm
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: talking about roster players maybe, But I think it's very
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: much an unknown because of how much the shakedown has gone,
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: you know, to every corner on this Mainple Leafs roster,
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: which even includes a brand new GM and John Shaika
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: who just got there about two weeks ago. So how
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: Jason Botterl maneuvers this, we don't know yet. But here's
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: I think the biggest challenge of this in that Austin
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: Matthews has got as much control over this, presumably as
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: anybody else, I think just based on the years that
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: he's play Plus also he has a no movement clause,
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: and so he's got you know, basically full right to
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: where he wants to go and kind of control this
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: thing with a salary that's already at thirteen point two
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: million and has got two more years to go. Can
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: the Kraken make that fit? Absolutely? The problem is it's
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: going to be fierce competition should he move on to
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: get a player like that. Utah, I hear is very
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: much in the mix. Los Angeles. They're moving on from
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: anj Co Patar. They're a star driven market. They want
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: against somebody else in there that that city is really
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: heating up as far as the conversation. So it's going
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: to take a lot, and I've been going to take
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: a lot as far as you know, getting a player
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: like him here to convince him to move, but also
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: be a part of something where the Kraken may be
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: a bit further back behind, you know, Utah versus Los Angeles.
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: So I kind of go back to the artimoythan Arronthingchuck.
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: You might recall that about roughly three months ago when
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: they nearly got him of the deadline, but he wasn't
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: going anywhere but Los Angeles, and he had full control
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: over this. So to find the right guy, it's going
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: to take the right kind of hall. But for Austin Matthews,
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: my goodness, if he moves on, you're talking about a
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: king's ransom.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Part of the that's Mike ben our own. Mike Benton
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: studies this like few others out there. Great stuff with
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: him yesterday. If you want to hear the entire conversation,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: you can go to ninety three three kjar dot com.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And so we did continue on talking about Austin Matthews
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and this potential trade because this is a little bit
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: of a double edged sword when you talk about him,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: because on one hand, you're talking about having to give
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: up a lot because of his reputation and because of
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: his age. On the other hand, he is coming off
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: back to back disappointing seasons. I mean, he was a
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: seventy goal scorer sixty nine goals in twenty twenty four,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: he had thirty three the following year, not even half,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and then just twenty seven this past year. He had
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a minus plus minus rating this past season. He was
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: not helping the Toronto maple Leafs win games this past year,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: So is he still the same superstar? And so, on
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: one hand, how much you're going to give up to
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: get a guy that maybe with his receding hairline, on
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the downside of his career. Maybe he is somebody that
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: aged quickly in the National Hockey League. Maybe he's not
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: as good as he thinks. Maybe his stock isn't as high.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe we don't want him. But on the flip side,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: if his stock's not as high, might be a great
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: time to grab him. The fan base is irritated with him.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: He is coming off those two disappointing years based on
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the standard that we hold him to. So, like I said,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: double edged sword, maybe now's the time to get him
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: while his stock has to be lower than what it is.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: But on the other end, you still are going to
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: have to give up a lot for a guy that
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: might be on the decline. So how do you marry that.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I just think it's worth a roll of the dice
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: for an organization that's telling me it's really hard to
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: find one of those guys. Well, this was one of
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: those guys just two years ago, and he shouldn't be
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: completely past his prime. Don't worry about the money. It's
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the National Hockey League for goodness sake, you know, pay
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: him the money. I don't think you're going to have
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: to give up all that much. I mean, again, coming
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: at this from an amateur perspective, I would think since
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Shane Wright still has to have value and is still
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: very young, and obviously Lane Lamber doesn't like him. Yeah,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: with the seventh overall pick, how could that package not
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: get Austin Matthews. Then you sign McMahon, do what it
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: takes to get McMahon, and how does that not turn
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: your offense completely around? At that point, then you can
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: play your your version of hockey and play those one
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: goal games that you like to play. And now you've
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: got two difference makers because McMahon looked like a tremendous
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: difference maker, and now you've added Austin Matthews to give
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: you firepower. To me, these are the kind of go
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: for it moves when Toddy Laiwicki and Jason Bottrell are
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: telling us we're gonna turn over every stone. I mean,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: that's where I'm gonna look. I'm gonna take that stockpile
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: of draft picks that's not doing us any good. And
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna move it for potential difference makers, and if
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I could add two and one off season. I mean,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I know they've got a salary cap, and so maybe
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a little careless with the salary cap. Maybe
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you can't fit both those salaries under your cap right now,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: But those are the type of moves I'm looking to make.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: If it's that important to add one of these big
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: time players, then I'm gonna roll the dice on maybe
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: an Austin Matthews still being one of those guys and
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: getting him while his trade value is down, when his
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: organization is frustrated with him, and with his fan base
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: is frustrated with him, and people wondering if he's still
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: a superstar, I'm gonna go ahead and try to come
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: up with a deal that grabs a twenty nine year
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: old guy it scored seventy goals two years ago.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I would at least like to see
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: them put trying to put together a package. And who
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: knows if we'll find out how far down the road
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: they go unless it actually happens, But at least I'd
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: like to hear the rumblings that they're working on something,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: trying to put something together. I mean they've got two
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: first round picks this year, so trading that seventh and
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: then some other. I mean you've got I think one, two, three, four, seven. No,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: you've got nine picks this year, and then I think
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: you've got like a bajillion next year because they just
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: keep stockpiling them. So yeah, I would love to see
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: them put forth the effort to at least try to
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: make it happen.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Man, a bajillion draft pick should be able to get
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: you something.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, just give them all bajillion.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I would think, not only do I think you become
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: more offensively dynamic, you also probably are gonna either take
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the lead or really cut down on the lead on
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the most forehead in the NHL, because Austin Matthews has
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: a really big four.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: It's large.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: It is like twice Peyton Mannings that's big. It's huge.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: But I'd like to see it. I mean, Mike's telling
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: us that take a king's ransom. Maybe it doesn't not
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: right now. It's certainly going to cost less now than
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: it would have a year ago, and a lot less
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: than it would two years ago to get him. So
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: maybe that you know, Toronto is turning over forget the
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: expression a new leaf, and they may want to just say, hey,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: we've rebuilt this thing and we're doing it around McKenna.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: We got the number one overall pick, and we'd kind
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: of like to move from the Matthews to the McKenna
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: era going forward. And so maybe he doesn't cost as
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: much as what you'd think. And I think it is
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: worth a roll of a dice for an organization that
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: has had two different press conferences where they are bearing
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: their souls to us about how they're going to find
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: that secret sauce this offseason to turn this thing around.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: We're not that far away. We're going to turn around
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: turnover stone to find out how to give you at
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: least a playoff team and hopefully a championship team. Well,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going to try and find I'm gonna try to
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: hook that big fish this offseason. If that's what it
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: takes to become a big player, I'm gonna try to
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: hook a big fish. And I think Austin Matthews still
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: has some swimming.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: To do, some some big fish capabilities.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I do all right. Coming up next on the radio program,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I cannot believe my eyes when I
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: read this this Morning, the Hottest New Craze in Baseball
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. All right, Ashley,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you can only have.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: One, Okay, I'm ready.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: You can have Russell the jet back up to Gino
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Smith or Russell the studio analyst. You can only have one.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I know you want to, I know you want the most.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: You both, yeah, but you can only have one. What
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson's future for you?
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I was really hoping he could studio analyze from the sidelines.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Joel, if anybody can do it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: If I can only have one, give me Russell Wilson
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: the backup quarterback to Gino Smith, because I don't want
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: to see him on a studio show.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: He'll drive me crazy.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: You know that is that has been I mean when
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: we first brought this up, I still kind of think
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: that he knows ball and he's a bright guy, and
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know something about it. Kind of thinks I
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: think maybe some sort of switch will flip and he
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: actually will be good about it. But nobody has agreed
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: with that take. I saw our teel way in on it,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I saw Matt Calkin's way in on it, and you've
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: weighed on it as well. Weighed in it as well.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not can't defend his personality. Doesn't seem
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to really have one, at least not a genuine one.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: So and it is not funny. Yeah, And when he
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: tries to be funny or tries to act man, does
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: it blow up in his face. When he tries to
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: act like he's entertaining, it blows up in his face.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: So I guess I'm gonna have to just say, you
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: know what, you're right, like I think that it's going
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: to be. It doesn't seem to fit his skill set
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: to be a television personality when he doesn't have a person.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Right exactly Like they did a thing last year and
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: they had him go on one one NFL broadcast and
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: James Winston went on another NFL broadcast. James Winston has
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: a personality. That guy is funny, yeah, And he's funny
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: without trying, and he's interesting. The problem with Russell is
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: that he is not interesting. I mean, you will get
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: gronk right when he's on the studio shows. I don't
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: enjoy him.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: He's terrible.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: He is awful, yes, but they thought, well, he's goofy
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: and fun and people like him, so we'll put him
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: on there. And I don't think it's gone well because
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, he doesn't even sound knowledgeable when
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: he's talking, unfortunately, because you can't get past all the
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: other stuff. And I feel like with Russell it would
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: be a similar failure. It just you can't get past
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: all the other stuff to hear what he's actually saying,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: and I don't think he can get past all the
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: other stuff to actually come across.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I will say this that I do believe that a
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: few times throughout history we've looked at people we didn't
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: think we're going to be good at it, and they
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: ended up being good at it. I mean, Kirk Gibson
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: was a pretty good color analyst for the Arizona Diamondbacks.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: No one would ever guessed that he had no personality whatsoever.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: And that's not even a great example, but it's just
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you never know if they get to the set that
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: maybe you have tapped into something. I think that he
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: knows ball well enough, and I think he knows sports
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: or excuse me, and I think that he's smart enough
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: that he could figure it out. But he does sort
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: of strike me as somebody who will get in his
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: own way.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's what I think is the problem. He will
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: So maybe maybe, and I think there's a little bit
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: of it too that you kind of want to see
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: him backing up Gino Smith on.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: A sideh No, I think again, full circle. I love
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: that moment for him and for Gino.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he will sign that dotted line with the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: thought of, oh good, one last chance to prove I'm
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: the best in the world. Yep.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: And then Gina will probably go down with an injury
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: and Russell will have one good game and then he
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: will go back to being what we know he is.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Interesting well, man, he was once. I mean, I think
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: he still is beloved here in this town, just just
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: in a different way.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: I think what he did for the Seahawks was great.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: We'll say that, and that's where I'm going to leave
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: it all right.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, it is the question, the million dollar
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: question right now with the Mariners, and it actually deals
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: with their number one strength. Man, we got a lot
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: of things to worry about. How is this the million
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: dollar question? We'll talk about a next Sports Radio ninety
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: three point three kh A r F MLROL. Hey, good morning,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: it is Chuck Powell. And Ashley Ryan with you here
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: on this Thursday, gorgeous Thursday morning here in Seattle. Oh, man,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: just set your eyes on it. Yeah, Ashley is trapped
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: in a box. It's so pretty that with the microphone.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: She's been down that so bright, been down in that
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: hole for months. We'll just drop her bits of ham sandwich.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Gonna down there, gonna get a little tan.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's hey, here's a little protein powder for some nutrients.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much, sir.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Just scoop it up with your hands and eat it. Yeah. Well,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: good morning to you. We've got a cash word. It
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: is family f A M I L Y. Enter that
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: at ninety three three kJ R dot com for your
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: shot at one thousand dollars in grand slam cash. That
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: is family f A M I L Y to ninety
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: three three kJ r dot com. Got another keyword coming
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: up nine o'clock. Also coming up at nine o'clock our
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: chance to finally chat with Chris Daniels. You know, we
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: gotta find time to talk to Chris Daniels when we
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: don't have breaking news on the Sonics, because he gets
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: gobbled up by everybody in town. And so I, Ashley
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and I are like, well, let's get it him during
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: a dead period and he can just kind of reset
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: everything with where the Sonics are and we'll probably talk
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: about a few other things. He's just a charming man.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: He really is a treasure.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: He's a treasure. So we'll talk to him today at
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: nine o'clock. We still have the ABC's of the m's
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: coming your way and sup. That's right, people, SUP at
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: eight thirty, So get your texts in on any questions
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: that you have to ask Ashley or I about the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: sports world or otherwise. We'll do our best to answer
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: the honesty. We'll do that at eight thirty. But I
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: want to talk right now about apparently the million dollar
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: question in town about the Seattle Mariners. And it's a
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: great question. It is a great debate. There are opinions everywhere.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I love it, and I love it, and then they're
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: really knowledgeable people and they're all coming from it from
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: different directions. It seems strange that we have an eighteen
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and twenty baseball team that can't hit an eighteen and
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: twenty baseball a superstar in Cal Rawley who's bat in
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: one seventy. Yeah, I mean, we have a lot of
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: problems on this team. We got a bullpen that's down
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: two big arms. We've got, you know, a team that
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: can't hit left handed pitching.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a problem.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are all we have. A shortstop can't
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: defend to his left or right. I mean, we've got
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of weird you know, a third basement that's
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: not healthy. Hopefully you'll be back tomorrow, but there are
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of things to actually, I don't know to
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: worry about, but there are a lot of problems right
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: now with this baseball team. Eighteen and twenty baseball teams
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: has its problems, and yet the hottest debate is about
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the strength of.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Our team because people want to focus on the positives.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: The one thing, the one thing that for most nights
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: we can count on, is our starting pitching. And yet
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: it's the million dollar debate here in town. What are
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: we going to do once Bryce Miller is healthy? How
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: are we going to set the rotation going forward? You've
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: heard my thoughts. They certainly they don't change that. I mean,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: they've remained the same through this entire process of asking
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: this question. But certainly I'm taking the input and maybe
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I position my opinion a little differently. From day to day.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: But I've been asking all of our experts this week.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: We even put Bill Krueger on yesterday just so we
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: could get his opinion on this topic. But on Tuesday
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: we had Ryan Healy, new Mariners TV guy, handsome, young man, dapper, yeah,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: and he's doing a great job for us on a
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: weekly basis, And so I asked him what this team
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: should do once Bryce Miller returns healthy and ready to
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: go with its starting rotation.
• 55:32
  Speaker 8: I think someone or something is gonna get disrupted during
• 55:35
  Speaker 8: this and the if the main goal that everyone can
• 55:38
  Speaker 8: agree upon is health and longety through the season, and
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: reminding all five plus now you know Bryce Miller coming back,
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: all six of those pitchers, that the health of this
• 55:48
  Speaker 8: rotation is going to lead this team to the promised Land.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I think that they can rally behind that.
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: Also, I know this pitching staff does a tremendous job
• 55:57
  Speaker 8: of filling up the strike zone and especially strike one,
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: keeping the pitch count low.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: And you saw it.
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: You know Logan Gilbert who even gave up a couple
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: of home runs in the sixth last night to be
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: able to He was in that halfway through that sixth
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: inning with eighty pitches like he's starting to look better,
• 56:12
  Speaker 8: and we don't see a lot of Mariner's pitchers that
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: are walking the house. Castillo has had a couple of
• 56:18
  Speaker 8: starts this year which's looked like that. I think they
• 56:20
  Speaker 8: can get behind it. If health is the the road
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: to the World Series, then they're gonna get behind it
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: and adjustice to their routines accordingly.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: All right, I thought that he answered the question. I
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: should have set that up a little bit better. He's
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: talking about what they can get behind is the six
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: man rotation. He thinks that's the answer, and you could
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: tell there was a little sucking through the teeth there
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: his pearly white teeth or television there's a little bit
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: of that. I think they can get behind it. I
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: think there was some sucking of the teeth there on
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Ryan Healy, but he believes that as difficult to question.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: This is that the six man rotation is the way
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: that the team can go and see some benefits to it.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Number One, Yeah, an extra day rest in between. Right now,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers are using a six man rotation, and for
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: the most part it is to protect the health of
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Shoe Aotani, who's had a couple of arm surgeries, Tyler
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Glass now, who's always hurt. Now. They also know they're
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: going to get into the playoffs. I mean, there's no
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: surer thing in sports than the Dodgers may get it
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: into the playoffs. So they get to baby their way
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: through the season. I mean, they're not even gonna pitch
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Blake Snell it sounds like until August, even though he
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: could be back sooner. But they don't need to rush
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: because they know they're going to make the playoffs. They
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: want to make sure Blake Snell's at his best in
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the postseason. But so there are different reasons, but they're
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: going with a six man rotation. The Dodgers kind of
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing, right, They're pretty good.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Organization right now.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so there are some benefits to maybe giving
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: a little extra rest to all of the guys. Also
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: in a time, it doesn't have to be permanent. Temporarily
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: you're down two of your best relievers. Theoretically, if you
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: are giving your starters an extra day rest in between
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: starts every single time through the rotation, then shouldn't that
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: suggest that they might be able to go longer into games.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: And that's the key for me, that one.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if George is going consistently through seven innings, does
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: he now with an extra day rest, you can count
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: on to consistently go through eight innings, maybe even a
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: complete game. Imagine Bunting's back. Maybe complete games will come
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: back next.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: I've never heard of such things.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: So that's another possibility. Is that to you save your
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: bullpen a little bit, because in theory, your starting pitchers
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: with an extra day rest might be able. You might
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: be able to push him past eighty eight pitches, like
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: George came out of the game in his last start
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: after just eighty eight pitches and seven innings. So that's
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: that's an idea. So there are merits. There are merits
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: to a six man rotation. Also, you don't have to
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: hurt anybody's feelings. Right Leist Castile gets to stay in
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: the rotation. Bryce gets to join the rotation. You don't
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: have to take Emerson Hancock out of the rotation. You
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: certainly aren't going to touch Wu or Kirby or Gilbert,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: So no hurt feelings. All six guys get to be
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: part of the team, get to be in the boat,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: rowing one alongside another equal strength. I mean, they always
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: talk about a fist is stronger than five fingers. Imagine
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: how strong a six fingered fist is.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, my name is in Nhiko Montoya, You
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: kill the father.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: The sixth finger. Antony Alfonseka had six fingers on each hand.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Hell of a typist.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, extra words.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Uh huh. Absolutely, that sixth finger makes a difference. So
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: I see the merits that said. I don't want to
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: do it because I think there's a downside to that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: as well. These pictures, and I think ours modern day
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: pictures more so than ever, and maybe Mariner's modern day
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: pictures even more so than anybody else's, are such slaves
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: to their routine. Ashley and I point this out a
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: lot to Bucky. He never buys it. Why is it
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: every time there's a rain delay, we have a crappy
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: outing from our starter, like they are so grinding on
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: their routines that man, you throw just a little bit,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: you delay a game an hour and you're not going
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: to get the same picture that day.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Or you start the game and then stop it and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: ask him to come back.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, forgets about that.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Forget it.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you might as well ask him to invent time travel.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Good during the delay Yeah, So.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: What happens then if every single time through the rotation
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: these guys are out of the routine that they've established
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: so far. Luke Arkins not a smart baseball guy. My
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: friend Luke Arkins text me during the show yesterday when
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: we were discussing this with Bill Krueger, and said, what
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I don't like about a six man rotation is those
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: things that are sure like the Emerson Hancocks and the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: George Kirby's right now, I don't want to take I
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: don't want to delay their starts by another game. I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: want our best pitchers pitching as frequently as they possibly can.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: And if you now they're now you're pitching seventeen percent less.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Now you're getting to your starting pitchers, your best starting pitchers,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: you know, seventeen percent fewer times through the rotation. And
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: so I think that's a great point that why do
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: we want Luis Castillo pitching every sixth day when he's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: struggling and you know, making sure he stays in the rotation,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: And now we're doing it at the risk of the
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: guys that actually are pitching great and we would like
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: to actually see more of but can't. Right, So I
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: think that's a great point. So, yes, there are merits
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: to just about every argument when it comes to this,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: but you also have to make a decision. And my
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: decision is I don't like the six man rotation. That's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: also Bill Krueger's belief as well. We had Bill Krueger
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: on yesterday. He does not like the idea of the
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: six man rotation either. As a matter of fact, he
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: thinks they've got to make a decision on one of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: the six dudes going to the bullpen. And here's Bill's idea.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: Well, sometimes when we played the old game of musical chairs,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 9: the music stops and you don't have a chair, and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 9: it's not fair. He's had a year of injury.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Talking about Bryce Miller, by the way, well.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 9: Someone that was near his draft class is zoomed ahead
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: of him and belongs to the rotation. That's Emerson Hancock.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 9: He's not leaving the rotation. He's pitching too good. He's
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 9: made some nice adjustments. He's arguably our best starter right
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 9: now based upon this step size, and that's horribly exciting.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 9: When we start talking about why to be excited about
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 9: Marin or baseball, that's one of them.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 9: Okay, so if it were me, and it's not. I'm
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 9: your armchair guy. I got no pressure. I would put
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 9: him in the bullpens because he could be a guy
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 9: in the middle of the game that could really help
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 9: this team. They're short in the bullpens. They're short. They're
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 9: short anyway. Even with their their their quartet down there,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 9: they need another arm if they're going to REDI compete
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 9: the way the baseball's play, the way the Mariners play
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 9: it close to the vests, cut it into pieces, even
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 9: with our starting pitching. Albeit Gilbert went six and oh
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: by the way, he won the game, won a novel thing.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: And you kept your pitch count down, you won. Yeah,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 9: that's how you win. Keep your pitch count down. That's more.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: Pitching innings and staying in longer is more important than
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 9: how many strikeouts you get my opinion. Yeah, but getting
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 9: to your point, I put him in the bullpen. I
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 9: think he could be a real weapon. He certainly replaces
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 9: he could replace Brash. Maybe not Brash because Brashes been
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 9: there and done that. But you're gonna put ninety eight
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 9: with some equipment down there, and a guy with a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 9: is a cool customer and he's relieved before that's right
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 9: put him. It's a hard conversation. It's a hard conversation
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 9: to tell him that he's not going to be in
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 9: the rotation. But you're gonna have to say, look, we
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 9: have a championship quality team here. You want to contribute
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 9: to being a championship team. You're never going to be
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: lost as a starter. We still believe in you as
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 9: a starter. But right now, that's where we need you.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 9: That's the conversation for me, that's that's where I'm headed.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Bill Krueger with us yesterday and again we had a
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: great conversation about the entire pitching staff yesterday with Bill.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: If you want to check it out at ninety three
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: to three KJR dot com as well. Here's what I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: like about the argument from Bill, even though I don't
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: agree with it, here's what I like about it. I
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: think he's right about Bryce Miller. Bryce Miller has such
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller has such a quiet confidence. I mean, I
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: don't you know the Hannibal Lecter line that his you know,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: pulse never got above you know, sixty beats a minute,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: even when he was eating the man's liver, yeah, or
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: no it was his tongue, yeah, even while he was
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: eating his tongue also gross. Yeah. Bryce Miller kind of
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: has that Hannibal Lecter kind of almost sick coolness about
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: him that Clint Eastwood, I'm getting ready for a gunfight,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: and yet Perel peril Parrel, I'm not gonna get rattled.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: You might get rattled. I'm not gonna get rattled. So
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: he probably has the perfect makeup or a closer. Just
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: how cool a customer he is. And he also has
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: the stuff that he could be a terrific reliever, and
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: I do. I brought this up long before we had
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Bill Long that maybe while Bryce is ramping up, you
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: know his pitch count, and he just had another start
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: last night. If you like his stuff, you like where
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: he's at, then maybe he could do that here and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: fill in once or twice a week, pitch a couple
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: of innings out of relief, then get some extra work
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: in the bullpen so that you are extending him and
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: you are still getting ready hit for him to join
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: the starting rotation. But why waste that in Effett and
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Tacoma when we're down a relief pitcher, And maybe he
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: could fill in for Matt Brash, Maybe not on an
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: every other day basis, but maybe twice a week, two
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: innings at a time, we could see some Bryce Miller
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: in some high leverage situations. I know he can handle it.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: I know his stuff can handle it. So I get
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: the merits of that. That said, I just don't want
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: to play this game, not with this season, not this year.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: This is not about anybody's feelings. And if Bryce Miller
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: can have a hard conversation about you know what, we're
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: gonna put you in the bullpen because it's best for
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: the team, then so can Luis Castillo. Why. I mean,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: I get that he's the senior member of the team,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: but he's also pitching the worst. I think Bryce, I
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: think they all felt Bryce Miller after what we saw
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: at the tail end of last year. Once healthy, this
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: is one of our big this is this guy's going
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: to have a great year this year. And I still
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: think he's going to be very effective for the Mariners
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: this year as a starting pitcher. So okay, I get
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: the merits while he's transitioning back. Maybe he's the guy
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: so that it's an easier conversation, But I don't know
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: why you couldn't have the same kind If Luis Castillo
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: is the veteran, is the big brother, is the leader,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: shouldn't he want to do what's best for the team.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: And I just think right now, at this stage in
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: their careers, Bryce Miller is a better pitcher than Luis Castile.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: And I will give you more evidence on that. They
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: felt that way about Luis Castile and Bryce Miller last year.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: And I know Bryce Miller didn't have as good a
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: season as Luis Castile, but when we got to the playoffs,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: who was pitching in the big moments? George was getting
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: all the big assignments. Who wasn't available, but it was
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: No one was turning to Luis Castillo in a big game,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: and yet Bryce Miller pitched some of our biggest games
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: that we had. They had plenty of opportunities of throwing Castillo,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: making him the starter, game one starter right out of
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: the bat on two different series. They didn't go to him.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: They were already losing faith in Luis at the end
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: of last season, and their faith with Bryce was growing
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: at the end of last season. I just think Bryce
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: Miller is the better pitcher. And I'm not gonna sit
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: here and protect people's feelings this year. We're gonna play
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: the best guys period, and I think a five man
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: rotation so it doesn't affect all pitchers negatively, is the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: better way to go. And if we do have to
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: make a hard decision here in a couple of weeks,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: unless there's something about Bryce in his rehab that the
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Mariners don't like and that they want to see a
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: little proving ground, I am going with let's have an
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: honest conversation. Who are our best five pitchers? Write him down,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: put them on the board. That's who we're going with
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: right now. And whoever's on the outside looking in we'll
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: have to have a difficult conversation with. But they're all
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: great teammates, they all love one another. They will all understand.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: And it's not a death sentence cause Steele can go
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: to the bullpen as a long reliever for a little while,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: and if there's an injury or if he proves, hey,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I'm pitching better than Bryce right now, we'll flip flop him.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: We'll make the change if we need to make the change.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: But I'm not making any decisions this year based on
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: hurt feelings. My decisions this year twenty twenty six Mariners
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Baseball are who is the best man for the job,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: and to me, it is Herbie, Gilbert Wu, Hancock and Miller.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: The thing that bothered me, I think too with the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: idea of just sending Miller straight to the bullpen is
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: he's coming off a rehab start. He shouldn't lose his
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: job to just the idea of, well, these guys are
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: already here, they've already been starting. Now if he wasn't
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: going to be pitching, or if if all five of
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: the guys that are currently out there right now we're pitching,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: like Brian Wu or Emerson Hancock, well obviously Miller.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: Goes to the bullpen, and I'm with you, yeah.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: But they're not. And there is one glaring person who
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: is not pitching that well. And so that's where it's like, well, yes,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: in theory, you would love it if they were all
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: pitching this great and that the easy thing is to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: send Miller to the bullpen. Done, you're coming off your rehab.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: This is the way it's gonna go. That's the eat
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: that would have been so easy. But you can't say, well, sorry,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: because you're coming off a rehab. We don't want to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: hurt someone's feelings. We just want to put you in there.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: It's going to make it easier for everybody, because that's
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: not best for the team. And if you are really
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: trying to win a World Series, you have to be
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: doing what's best for the team regardless.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're running away with it, then that's
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: another thing. Yeah, but we're still trying to figure out
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: how to win this year, right, I'm when it's World
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Series time, Yeah, there is no messing around. And the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: day that Cold Emerson's better than JP Crawford at baseball,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: he's going to be our starting shortstop, yep. And I
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: think it's going to happen this year. So that's just
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: the way I want them to operate. I said this
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: earlier in the week, and for the very first time,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: I'm getting the feeling they're going to go six man rotation.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: And I don't have anything to back that up. No.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: I went to the yard two days ago with Softy.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't talk to Jerry, didn't talk to Justin, didn't
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: even talk to a PR person. Yeah, Softy and I
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: didn't even discuss it in the stands. I didn't talk
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: to Devish about it, didn't talk to Jude about it.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't talk to Kramer about it. So I don't
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: have this is just a feeling. I have a feeling
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: they're going to go six man rotation temporarily and then
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: just let the sea take care of it. You know,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: there probably will be an injury or yeah, yeah, there
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: probably will be some sort of injury that might take
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: care of it. And then, as Ashley brought up, I
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: thought this was a great point. If you do go
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: to the six man rotation for a little while and
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: then you get stuck in the six man rotation because
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: you've been doing it longer than you were expecting, which
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: would be a good thing. It means all six guys
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: are healthy and all six guys are performing. If by chance,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: somebody went down and you didn't want to risk going
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: back to the five accordion style.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: Real, yeah, that's what I don't want, is back and.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Forth, right if you But if you didn't want to
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: go back and forth, sounds like Kate Anderson's ready to
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: be a major league baseball pitcher, and that's your reason
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: for calling him up and putting him in the six
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: man rotation now that you have established. But that's just
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: not what I would do. I think there's too much
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: risk to the continuity the rhythm of a baseball season
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: and to a group of guys. And I love them.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: I think they're all outstanding people and outstanding pitchers, all
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: all six of them. And yet I mean I forgot what.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: I forgot the point that I was gonna make. But
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I love them, but you know, they've just
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: got to perform. I forgot the point that I was
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: gonna make.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Ysh, I hate to finish it that way, but I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: do agree to yeah, because it's you want. Ideally, Yeah,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: if they're all performing excellent, we're in a winning situation.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. You just the six man rotation
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: makes me nervous as well, because you are relying on
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: all six of them to all be really good.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: All right, coming up next four nine four five to one.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Your questions on the text line, they start with SUP,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: and then you direct them at one of us, and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: you can ask us anything you'd like, you know, and
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: I will answer honestly because I'm that kind of dude.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: You can do it on the YouTube chat too.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Four nine four five one are on the YouTube
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: chat as well. It's time for a round of SUP.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Right here on Chuck and Buck in the Morning Sports Radio,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: ninety three point three KJRFM. I'm gonna give you. I'm
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: gonna give you overnight to think about it. I do
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: this for Ashley and Bucky as well. Send him a
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: show text the day before. Here are some of the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: things I'm thinking about. So do whatever you want, come
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: up with ever, whatever you wanna, whatever, take you have
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: sup with misleading underwear. Want everybody to think about that.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking at just I don't know why it
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: came up on my timeline because I'm not looking at
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: anything that has underwear on it. But there's this advertisement
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: for some men's underwear that you put underneath. It's like
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: a T shirt you put underneath, but it's got muscles
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: built into it. Oh yeah, and so it looks like
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: you have muscles that you really don't have. And I
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: would put the push up Brawl in the same category here.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're if you achieve what you're striving to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: achieve by looking more fit than you actually are, then
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to take that off at some point.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: And how much of a tool are you gonna look
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: like when you really don't have muscles underneath there?
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the same thing that happens with women
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: and the face filters and all the makeup you put
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: on on Instagram videos, and I'm like, well, yeah, you
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: look real pretty, but you don't look at all like yourself.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: How does that burn you?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: And you can't? Yeah, you can't. You're not going to
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: wake up in the morning looking like that. So what
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: do you tell the person you meet?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Fine, thing about it. I want to talk about
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: that tomorrow. What do they want to talk about? Let's
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: play a round of sup?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. This is from the two
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: five three Sup. Chuck. Yes, you are the Mariners manager.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: What do you do to light a fire under these guys?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: They appear hungover to me. Sometimes they need a spark.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I think I think number one, one hundred and sixty
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: two games, you can't play it with your hair on
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: fire all the time. Number two, I think when you're
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: not hitting, it kind of looks to us like there's
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: no life in the team. And then when you're not hitting,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: there's no life in the stands, which I think we
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: re into that as well. I don't think that it
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: happens all that frequently that we're not seeing a great
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: effort on the field, But I will admit I do
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: think there's sometimes that they have kind of looked distracted,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: not focused. I don't think it's an effort thing with
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: these guys. Sure there's somebody that probably should have ran
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: out that ball. I thought Julio loafed after a ball
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: to center field that went through his legs the other day.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: There's that occasion, and that drives me nuts as much
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: as it does every other fan out there. But I
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: think that they are guilty of lack of focus at times,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: and that's hard to maintain for three hours a night,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: over one hundred and sixty two games, playing almost every
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: single game. But I at least want my manager, if
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: I'm the manager, I want my manager to acknowledge it
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: and not get to the postgame and just blow it
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: off like that's baseball. Nope, I want my manager to say,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: we weren't real focused out there tonight. Yeah, we look sloppy,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: We look we sloppy, played a sloppy game. It's not acceptable.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Those guys know it, and yet we can't keep we
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: can't play that way.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're still not throwing anyone under the bus.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: We owe each other more, we owe the fans more
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: that that's unacceptable.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just that.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to hear out of the manager.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see him shrug his shoulders and say,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: that's baseball. That's what I don't want to see.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Even if you don't believe it, Even if you do
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: think that's baseball, and it's hard to hustle one hundred
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: and sixty two games a year, I at least want
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: to hear that it bothers my manager that my team
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: played that sloppy that day.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. From the two oh six sut.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Buck Buck Buck Buehler, we've.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Got from Dustin sut Chuck, with whom was the worst,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: slash most awkward radio interview you've ever had.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a long list. That is a long list.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the time that. Oh gosh, it's right
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: on the tip of my tongue. Okay, I'm one that
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: I know of, Carmen Electra. Okay, because and this was
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: so unfair. I should have never done it. But when
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: you did, I did a Morning Zoo type show like
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I wasn't Howard Stern. I mean, we weren't that, but
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: it was you know, we were supposed to be edgy.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: That was the idea behind it. And I wasn't real
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: good with celebrity interviews. I usually kind of like crossed
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: the line. And I asked Carmen Electra. I told Carmen
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Electra that I liked her better with Rodman than I
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: did with what's his name Navarro? Yeah, And that's a
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: horrible thing to say to somebody. It's really a horrible thing.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: And she did not react well. I also interviewed Jessica
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Alba one time, and she was on with that comedian
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: they did a movie together, Dane Cook. Yes, And I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: asked Dane Cook and I used the phrase something about
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: a hot piece of ass, and she took offense to it,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: and it really made the interview uncomfortable. But I've got
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: to give it to the interview with Dave McGinnis, which
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I just talked about not long ago, the late Dave McGinnis.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: I love Dave McGinnis, but I tried to make a
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: joke right about how many Leonard Davis was one of
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: like seventeen kids when the Cardinals drafted him. Yeah, and
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: I said, who's his father, Sean Kemp, Yeah, And Dave
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: did not like it, and it was very unc very awkward.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put those three.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Outs, all right. All right, except, Chuck, you are always
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: making movie references. You seem to really like movies. So
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: what is the best movie ever made? This is from
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: seven to.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's easy. Silence of the Lamb.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, you do it.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: You do like Silence of.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: The Silence of the Lambs. I mean, how much better
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: can you get than that? Like that acting?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: I've seen it, so it's got to be good.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: The suspense, it was interesting. I mean there was that
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: wasn't one dead moment in it. Every moment mattered in
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: the movie. It was never boring at any moment during it. Yeah,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you not love Silence of the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: Lamb's greatest movie of all time?
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: That is a good one. All right? Uh sup, Chuck?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: From the two five to three, if the Astros requested
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: fair market price return for Jordan Alvarez, would see the
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Mariners make that movie?
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, I don't have anything. I mean, of all
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: the Astros who are not repugnant, Yeah, it's sign up
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Jordan Alvarez. I don't think they would trade him within
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: the division. But yeah, I said this yesterday. I think
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: that the Astros are going to do a fire sale
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: at the trading deadline this year. I think they see
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: the riding on the wall. Their time has passed and
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: they're a team that has used rebuilding as well as
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: anyone in baseball history, and I think they're ready to
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: do that again. I think Jordan Alvarez is going to
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: get traded. I don't think they'll trade him to the
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Mariner obably not. But yes, I would be all about that,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: and I would give up because he's under control of
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: like nine million dollars for the next three years. That
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: is a bar gun. Yeah, so I'd give up a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: lot to get your Don Alvarez.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed from the two five three step Ashley. If
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: you had a clean shot at Matt Stafford as a
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: linebacker and you knew it would be a fifteen yard penalty,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: would you take it on.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: A great question?
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike wants to know, Sup, Chuck, I have a
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: non sports related question for you regarding your Friday martini nights.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: Are you a gin or a vodka guy? I will
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: let you know he does say. If you don't say Gin,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: I'll be very disappointed.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: You're going to be disappointed. I think that tastes like
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: a Christmas tree. I don't want to drink a Christmas It.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: Depends on the gin empress gin very light, very fresh,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: very delicious.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Now I will acknowledge from his area of disappointment that
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: I did not know this. I thought it was always
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: vodka martinis, and then after becoming a bit of a
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Martini drinker, then I found out that Noah, real Martini
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: is a gen Martini. It is so vodka is kind
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: of the copy cat. So I will acknowledge that I'm
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: drinking the copy cat, but it's still a Martin. But
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: I just love Mark vodka so much more than Jin
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: And so not only am I a vodka guy and
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: never a Gen guy, ever a Jen guy. Chopin vodka
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: is my I always get to ask that and then
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh fancy, Like, no, you can get it
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: as normal. Yeah, grocery store. It just has a fancy
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: name named after a pianist. Yeah, it's not that big
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: a deal. But I had to do that because it
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: was like the most recommended gluten free. They all are
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: pretty much gluten free, yeah, but Unicorn is Celiac, so
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: we had to find the one she was most comfortable with.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: And now it's the only one I can. Everybody has
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: so chopin of vodka, martini barely dirty, three blue cheese olives.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: Yuh, all right, we're gonna get through these next two quickly.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: This is they're both for both of us. Okay, so
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: both of you. Who is the best athlete among kJ
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: R personalities from the two six? This is a good
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: question because I'm gonna I guess I have to go Anders.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: He plays soccer, And there's no way it's Anders or
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: Travis plays soccer because they actively like play a sport.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Do you mean, like right now, they're like in the
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: best shape. That's not how I'm.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: Is the best athlete our personality by far?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: It's not even close.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would actually probably say me because I tread.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: I used to tread water for hours at a time.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Well that's conditioning. Yeah, you're right, No, that's not athleticism.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Athleticism is that you pretty much can do like anything athletically.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: It might be swim and Bucky did play basketball.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: Didn't me?
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but he's just he's he's powerful and uh
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: and and great hand eye.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: I took it as now and I didn't know who
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: would be Anders.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't beat Bucky at anything anything. There's not one thing. Well, okay,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: running long distance running. He'd beat him at a long
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: distance running.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Okay, interesting all right? Uh and then
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: this one, uh sup Chuck supash This is from four
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: to two five. How does it feel or how does
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: it feel to work with Dick Fane? I mean, the
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: guy has made a bajillion phone calls in his life,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: including the very first phone call in eighteen seventy six
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: to Alaska to go over baseball box scores, and he
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: also owned a pager. It must be like working with
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: the most interesting man in the world.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: It's like working with Ben Franklin.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: It is the inventor of all things Dick Fane.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, you going? Do I want to have phone sex? Maybe?
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: Am I touching myself right now?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: Oh? Gotcha?
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: No? Have I thought about touching myself the entire conversation?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: How do you think I got these kids?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: All? Right? Coming up next a conversation that we had
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: yesterday about fram Or Valdez, and now we have new information,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: so we'll follow it up with what we feel about
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: baseball's punishment of Valdez. Yesterday on Sports Radio ninety three
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: point three kJ r f M. I'm wrong on my button.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Nine o'clock hour here on this Thursday. Great to have
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: you with us. It is Chuck and Buck in the mornings.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: No Buck here today, he'll be out for a little
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: while longer. Ashley Ryan is here. My name is Chuck Powe.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: We do have avcs of the MS coming your way
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit later on in the show. Also, one
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: last thing to close out the show. We have a
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: cash word for you. It is cash at ninety three
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: three KJR dot com. You can enter it for your
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: shot at one thousand dollars in Grand Slam Cash again,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: cash at ninety three three KJR dot com. But we're
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: gonna start the hour here at nine o'clock with you
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: know a guy that I haven't got the chance to
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: chat with and I don't know how long except in
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: the airports. I see him in the airports occasional Mariners game.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: But we haven't had him on the radio show in
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: a while, and we've missed him from Como News. You
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: know him, you love him, the man with all the answers.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: Chris Daniels joins us here on Chuck and Buck. Good morning, sir,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: good morning.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: I'm impressed that you're talking about Empress jin so early
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: in the morning, and I can confirm it is a
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: good gin.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, there you go. You're jen Over vodka martini,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: then jin Over vodka.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: But I like the bourbon and you can't go wrong
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: with Blanton'ston's.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh oh really? Do you ever have I'm
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: out in Woodinville now and now I'm stuck on the
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Woodinville Bourbon. Do you ever make your way out to
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: have the Woodinville Bourbon?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Chris, Yeah, every once in a while, all that good stuff.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: And do you like to support a local company? Yeah,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: there you go.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, but you're saying Blanton's is the way
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: to go.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, you got to collect my letters?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, I'll trust Yes, I trust you. I
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: trust you, Chris Daniels more than anyone in the world.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Well you should be my agent. Wow. Thanks, I'll take
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: that as a bumper. I think maybe the entire community does.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: When we get Chris Daniels reports, everybody like perks up
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: and listens, and so you're in such demand on when
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: it comes to Sonics news and have been ever since
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I arrived that Ashley and I were talking yesterday, are
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: like let's get Chris on when there's really not some
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: breaking news story, and let's just talk to him about
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: what's going on with the Sonics and maybe a couple
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: of other things as well. And so that was the
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: idea behind grabbing you. Now, when you're not trying to
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: chase down a story, maybe you can just update us
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: as what's the latest with the NBA, the Sonics and
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: when this thing might finally come together again.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's interesting that the pieces that the
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: crumbs that that kind of have been laid out now,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: and the latest being that Samantha Holloway has confirmed she's
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: hired a couple of banks, JP Morgan Chase to put
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: together the package, the bid package for the NBA. I
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: think it's a sign that she is serious in putting
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: this all together. It's also likely before the NBA puts
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: out some sort of bid package, which is something that
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: we saw from the National Hockey League way back when
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: before the Seattle Kraken came to be. And so these
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: are steps in the right directions there. They're they're little
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: morsels of information, but it shows that she is in
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: fact serious and she's the only one that has come
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: forward with that uh, and we know lingering in the background.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner, told me personally in New
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: York in March that he expected multiple bidders from Seattle,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: but that he is fond of Samantha Holloway. So take
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: that for what it's worth. Whether he's trying to bid
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: up the price in Seattle and get more bidders in play,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: but he signaled that back in March. But right now
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: Samantha Halloway is showing that she's serious with this little
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: bit of information that she's put together. She's putting together
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: the banks or the banks are putting together, and the
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: investors are being put together for a potential bid here shortly.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: What do we read into why she's the only name
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: that we are hearing? Do they keep it that tight liped?
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, is it that important that they don't reveal
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: who's interested? Or should we think that maybe everybody has
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: kind of stepped aside because Samantha Holloway's got such an
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: inside track right now?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I think I'm always fascinated by the game outside
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: the game, and I think there's some gamesmanship there. I think,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: like I said, Silver, perhaps trying to bid up the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: price He's also clearly had multiple contacts with the city
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: of Seattle, King County and with Samantha.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Holloway and her group. They've met before.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: And you know, there's the idea that we haven't even
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: heard who our investors are, and I think that they're
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: holding that back as a card to play. I tell
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: everybody to think back to when the NHL was eyeing Seattle,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: and the Lightwiki group and the Oakview group came out
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: with David Bonderman and said that's how serious we are
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: about getting an NHL franchise and Jerry Bruckheimer and they
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: stood behind him at a press conference, and that was
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: them playing the card to show that they are the
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: ones that were the most serious and willing to put
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: together the package. I think that's what Samantha is likely
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: waiting on when the time is right, when the NBA
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: says we're ready to accept those bids, and then she
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: would come out and say, here are the investors that
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: I have and I'm serious. And if there's another one,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: and you know, I keep hearing little bits and pieces
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: about somebody else is trying to put together something, if
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: they want to come out and say it's me and
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: I'm interested in doing this. It doesn't have the same
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: weight as say Samantha would with having multiple investors and
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: multiple names involved. So again, I think it's the game
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: outside the game and waiting for the right time to
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: play the cards that you have and show that you
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: have the flush to defeat anybody else that they want
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: to bring the NBA back.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Chris Daniels is with us here on Chuck and Buck,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Seattle's most trusted journalist, also Como News, also an impress drinker,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: loves himself some gin and of course loves the Chuck
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: and Buck radio program, which is why he's joining us
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: here today to talk about where the Sonics are right now.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: So what are you hearing on the front of this
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: definitely is going to be expansion versus would the NBA
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: be more interested, possibly in relocating to Seattle.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: Every indication I've had in this town is this group
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: does not want to buy another franchise and move them here.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: I think we heard from Todd laiwiki on the record
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: with multiple reporters saying that he got involved in this,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: and the group is getting involved in this because they
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: want an expansion franchise, not relocating another franchise, but that
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: story is going to continue to percolate until the Portland
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: City Council signs off on a deal down in Portland.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: We've seen the state legislature do it, We've seen what
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: Tom Dundan's doing down in Portland, and so that just
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: adds fuel to the fire of a potential relocation. And
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: until New Orleans and Memphis signed long term lease extensions
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: in their respective cities, I think that that story is
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: going to percolate as well. But I am led to
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: believe that, at least locally and at least from the
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: NBA office, the entire focus on Seattle has been with
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: a potential expansion franchise and not a relocation of a franchise.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Adam Silver really does get uncomfortable when he runs
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: into Seattle people, doesn't he, Because he does kind of
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: feel bad, doesn't he that he had this process has
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: been strung out for so long, and I think he
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: wants to give us answers, but he's so careful and
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: he's so cautious, and this can just keeps getting kicked
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: down the road. I mean, the last time he ran
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: into Adam Silver, Chris was he hiding under a table
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: wearing like a fake mustache just to avoid having to
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: answer your questions.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: Well, he actually came over and spoke to me right
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: off the podium and walked directly over to me and
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: Tim Booth also in the room.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: Talked to Tim Booth.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: And it's always interesting with the NBA when they want
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: to get a message out to a respective city versus
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: when they don't. I believe that this is Adam Silver's
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: legacy play. He wants to bring the Sonics back. He
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: wants to be the commissioner to end the story to
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: right or wrong. He has said as much, most recently
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: in an interview that it was not David Stearn's finest hour,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: it was not the league's finest hour. I think he
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: and he has a smile on his face when he's
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: doing it. I think he wants to be the guy
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: who can finally solve the riddle and bring the Sonics back.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: I do believe that.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: And whether he has full ownership support is the other
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: big question here, and I think that that's why this
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: has dragged gone so long. Remember he brought it up
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: in December of twenty twenty when the NBA was having
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: problems with Gate in the midst of the pandemic, and
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: here we are in twenty twenty six.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: He's been.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: Sending little messages out in that six year timeframe. But
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: I think it's because he wants he wants to get
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: this done. And I think he genuinely likes Samantha Holloway
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: and loved her dad too, David Wonderman, Let's not forget
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: who was an investor in the Celtics. And so I
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: think he he has some attachment to Seattle and wants
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: to get it done and wants to be the commissioner
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: that gets it done.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: So when is he going to finally announce this? Where
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: are we looking at timetable wise? Are you getting any indication?
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: Because this has been a real This is like I'm
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: trying to catch a greased pig.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, September October, I think is what we're looking at
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: as of right now. He has said he wants to
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: get it done this year. I think when he did
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: say that, he was trying to set a message both
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: internally and externally, that he's done talking about it. He
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: thinks they're close enough he wants to force a vote.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: He got the vote to at least explore expansion. Back
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: in March, there was some suggestion that perhaps it would
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: be addressed in July at the Board of Governor meeting
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: down in Vegas. Doesn't seem like that's going to happen now.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: So we're looking at September October, before the start of
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: the next NBA season, and you know, I would just say,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: if this doesn't happen, it's done in Seattle. I mean,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: he has he'd written the story now for the for
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: over a six year period about bringing the Sonics back,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: getting people excited, get getting investors in position like Samantha
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: Holloway is doing right now. If you all of a
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: sudden hit the brakes in September October and say, hey,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: the financial markets are what they are, we can't do
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: this right now, you're going to lose those investors who
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: are on standby. And you know he was close to
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: doing this in twenty twenty four and investors were being
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: lined up and they hit the brakes and interest was
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: lost in that two year period. So if they don't
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: follow through on this this fall, I think that's the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: end of the story. And I think everybody knows the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: stakes now. It's going to be now or never. It's
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: gonna be twenty twenty six or never to actually finalize
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: and bring back the Sonics in twenty twenty eight, twenty nine.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: But as somebody that is covering this story as long
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: as you have, and I got here and I was identify,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: it was pointed out to me, like my first day
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: eleven years ago in Seattle, there are like three things
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: for sure that you know, you had to love Marshawn Lynch,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: you had to be frustrated with the Mariners, and you
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: had to trust Chris Daniels when it came to Sonics reporting.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Those are like the three rules when I got there.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: So wow, as somebody who's been covering this story for
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: as long as you, where is it on your confidence
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: scale that we are going to get the Sonics back
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: and sooner than later?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: I'll say like an eight point five out of ten.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: I think that I've seen so many twists and turns
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: in this story over nearly twenty years, and I think,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: you know, lingering in the background, the global economy, the markets,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: everything with inflation has made costs more. Is that going
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: to be the excuse to try and you know, not
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: have the Sonics come back to say for the owners
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: to say we need to stabilize the global economy.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: First.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the kind of the kind of crazy
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: thing that could happen to derail the story. And I
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: have seen so many twists and turns nothing would surprise me.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: But I think that this is the most serious effort
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: since we saw the Hansom group down in Soto in
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: twenty twelve and twenty thirteen. There's the arena in place.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: It has hosted NBA exhibition games. The NBA has clearly
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: kicked the tires on the arena. They know how it
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: would work. They know there's a locker room for a
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: potential franchise, they know that there's going to be space
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: for a training facility. All those things seeming to line up.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: This would be the time. But boy, I mean, I
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: hate to even throw out that there could be some
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: sort of curveball to mixed metaphors. But you know, I've
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: seen some strange things over time, and that's the one
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: thing I fear here between now and say September October.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about, just quickly about a couple
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: of other things. I mean, how excited are you, as
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: a reporter long time here in Seattle to have an
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: event like the World Cup being here?
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: This summer, well, I think it's I think when Peter
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: tom Azala, the head of the World Cup organizing Committee,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: says it's the biggest event since the sixty two World's Fair,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: I think he's correct that the amount of the amount
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: of games between Seattle and Vancouver, you're talking about thirteen matches.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: You're talking about Belgium likely training down in rent and
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: you're talking about Egypt training over in Spokane. The international
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: visitors that will be coming to town, I think that
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: it's going to be unlike anything that city has seen.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: I also know that we thought there'd be probably more
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: attention on the Club World Cup, which was the dry
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: run for the World Cup, and we saw some We
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: saw some empty seats at Lumen. We know that FIFA
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: is kind of, for lack of a better term, bungled
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: the ticket sales on all of this, with so many
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: last minute ticket sales. I've lost count now over like
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: six different periods. There's been questions about hotel rooms filling
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: up and vacancy that exists right now just a little
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: bit over a month out. So I'm concerned that there
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: will be some soft ticket sales, but in terms of
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: a month long international celebration with people coming from all
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: over the world to Seattle, you are hard pressed to
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: think of another event like that. And in Vancouver they
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: have the experience with the Olympics, and I think they're
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: doing some live concerts and they're spreading things out over
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: the city and that's going to be I think if
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: you look at hotel prices there, they're going to get
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: those hotel prices because I think it's going to be
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: easier for some people to get to Canada than it
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: is to the United States. But I do think it's
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: going to be fun for Seattle, and it's going to
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: activate Seattle and having pioneers, where as a pedestrian only
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: zone which has been announced by the City of Seattle.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: Will be different for people as well. It should be fun, yeah,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: and be interesting for us here in Sports talk radio,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: because you know, soccer is a little bit down the
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: list on the sports that we talk about. We probably
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: have two people here on the staff that we would
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: label as experts, and yet we'll have hour after hour
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: after hour of programming during that time and I'm really
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: not sure. We haven't had a conversation about how much
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: time will be dedicated to the World Cup but from
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: the television world, is como news? Is this like a
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: twenty four to seven kind of thing? Are you going
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: to just NonStop coverage of the World Cup? Does it
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: take over the news? Does it take over everything and
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: your life and the lives of your colleagues.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: I think it'll be a daily event, a daily story,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: because there's going to be there's so many different layers
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: of the onion when it comes to covering this, between
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: the international travel obviously, I think people are looking at
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: that Egypt Iran game on a Friday night in Seattle,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: given the global situation, how that's going to play in
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: the city. You know, also everything else that's wrapped around
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: that game. So there are news stories here just around
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: the World Cup and and visitors coming in and seeing
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: Seattle for the first time and trying to cross the
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: border back and forth between the Vancouver and Seattle matches.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: There's just so many different angles to this outside of
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: just the the play on the field, the stuff that's
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: going on off the field that I think it's going
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: to be fascinating for not only me but others to
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: cover in town.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm never a dull moment in this town. Sports wise,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: It's It's crazy how there's just always something big, there's
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: always something bubbling here. No wonder we all have Martini
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: habits in the Seattle media. We got to come down
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: from this, yeah, exactly. So all right man, Well, great
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: to hear from you. Thank you so much for joining us.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: Always fascinating to chat with you. And we'll do it
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: again soon. We will bug you again even when you
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: don't want us to.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: It sounds great. And before that, I'll see it a
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: game or in an.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: Airport for sure, for sure. Absolutely, that's where Chris Daniels
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: and I always hang out, is at the airport or
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: the baseball game. All right, man, thank you, yep, you
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: bet talk. Chris Daniels, Senior reporter, Como News. It's kind
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: of been the sours ever since I got here for
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: the sonic story. Hopefully he can stop covering that beat,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, for Chris Daniel's sake, can we just so
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: he can just you know, do something else.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: So when you got here, did you Jim Foreman was
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: still around, right? I don't know Jim Forman, okay, so
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: he was like the reporter at the time. Oh okay,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: that like they put in all the dangerous situations oh,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: so like if there was a huge windstorm, they'd probably
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: send Jim Forman to the top of the space needle
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: and Jim Foreman love Yeah, and it was like, oh,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: danger Foreman, where is he today? And he was like
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: the guy. Well, now Chris Daniels is the guy for
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: like he's your go to. So Foreman was your go
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: to at the time for like any treacherous situation, but
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: Chris Daniels is now. I also feel like if there
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: was a windstorm, they might put him on top of
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: the space need to cover that as well, Like he
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: is just your go to source for everything.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, got it? Got it? Yeah, Well he's he's terrific
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: at what he does. We appreciate him joining us. If
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: you want to follow him, it's Chris at Chris Daniels
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Underscore TV, and of course you can follow him there
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: at Como News. But always good to run into him too.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: He's fun just to hang out with, chat with as well. Yeah,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: we had a guy when I did radio in Arizona's
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: name was Jim Cross. Okay, and Jim Cross because we
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: had was there was always fire season, yeah, you know,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: because things catch on fire when it's one hundred and
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: fifteen degrees every year spontaneously. Yes, And so he would
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: he would always be and he would always act like
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: he hated it. Oh my gosh, fire season. I can't
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: believe it's here again. Oh man, this is going to
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: be terrible. This is I want to do this. And
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: then as soon as you heard one, you would watch
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: him just jump up from his chair, grab all of
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: his stuff, and head out and his truck to go
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: find it.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh. He was like that.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: I wanted you to think, like, I don't live for this.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: I don't want destruction.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: He lived for it, lived for me, and we loved
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: him for it because nobody else wanted to cover it. Yeah,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: as a long ass day drive out to a mountain,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: stand around and heat and fire coming off of the mountain,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: and he just ate it up, gobbled it up. So
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: he's kind of the Jim Foreman of Arizona, if you will.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: I like it all right.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: Coming up next on the radio show, It's time for
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: the ABC's of the M Sports Radio ninety three point
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: three kh A r F M.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: Exciting, Yeah, very exciting game.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I'm very proud of it, as you should be. Yeah,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: my face is on it.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: They just let you create games up there now these days.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Huh right, yeah, and I just and behind the podium
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: and hand out a dollar at a time.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: That's really cool.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: There are other games that you can play there as
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: well for even more money. And so you could even
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: go to the DraftKings Sportsbook. It's a wonderful little enterprise there,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: and you just sit there. You get there's like the
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: stands built up like you can sit down down below,
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: you can set up by the bar. You can get
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: like these comfortable lounge chairs and whatnot and just take
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: in the game. Even if you just go to watch
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: the game. It's worth it. Restaurants all around you. And
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: then if you want to play a little bit, you
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: know what I mean by play, you can play as well.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: I mean you got NBA playoffs, Stanley Cup playoffs going
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: on right now, Baseball every single day. DraftKings Sports Book,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: talalap Resort, Casino. It is your home away from home.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: Sounds comforting. I want to go.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: What all you want is everything? Everything to Lala dot com.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: All right, it is time for the ABC's of the MS,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: our Daily Mariners segment. We allow the alphabet to be
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: a guide through a few different Mariner topics. We're not
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: necessarily beholden to the results from yesterday, but I will
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: mention them three to one. The Atlanta Braves knocked out
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: by the Seattle Mariners yesterday afternoon, and so win a
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: two win two out of three from the team that
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: was the hottest and best team in baseball so far
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: this year coming into that series. Maybe maybe it triggers
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: something going forward that is a hard maybe, I would
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: hope so, because this team is terrible at taking advantage
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: of early season momentum. I mean the worst. They are
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: so bad at it. They are worse at that than
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: anything that you do in your life, Like if you
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: yourself are like, man, I am just horrible at washing
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: my car. They're worse at taking mantage of momentum in
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: May than you are at washing your car. Yeah.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: I keep thinking, actually that you bring now that you
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: bring that up, that I need to wash my car
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: because of all the pollen that's just sitting on it.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna wash it. Oh yeah,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: i gotta wash it. I'm gonna wash it. It's been
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks and I'm still figuring out how
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: to make the time to wash it. Like they're still
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: figuring out how to take advantage of momentum.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: If you are a person that does woodworking, but you
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: only have one and a half fingers left, you might
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: not be very good at it, and yet you're still
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: better than the Mariners at taking advantage of momentum in May.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, just don't do it well, yeah.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just when you think, okay, it's going, then you
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: lose three straight games to the Royals. So don't count
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: on it. But you never know. We'll see. Let's get
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: to the ABC said the MS we left off of
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: the letter d DS for Donovan. Brendan Donovan for sure
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: is going to be back on the road trip now.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: They said this prior to the homestand he's going to
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: be back on the homestand and so I took it
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: and ran with it, because usually when they make that announcement,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: it's usually on the front side. Usually means he's just
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: about ready. So I thought last week we were gonna
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: get to see Brendan Donovan at the beginning of the
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: home stand. You know, you had those that day off
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: last Thursday and then really had gone two plus days
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: without a baseball game. So I thought last Friday against
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals. We're going to see Brendan Donovan and
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: his you know, electric hair returned to the lineup last Friday,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: and then we find out no, no, no, he's not. He's
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: gonna have to have a reab assignment. So now we're
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: hearing definitely on this road trip. So I don't know,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: do I make the same mistake twice? I guess I'll
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: risk it. Yeah, I think he'll be available Friday in
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: Chicago for Game one of the series against the White Sox.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Didn't have a real long rehab process in terms of
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: minor league games, and I think he hit a ball
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: like one hundred and ten miles per hours first at bat.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: So Brendan Donovan I think is going to be suiting
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: up and I'm going to guess tomorrow night against the
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: White Sox.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: And so I would like to see him obviously back.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: I think he provides and I spark. He's got a
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: lot of energy, and I think definitely at times this
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: team needs the energy in that boost greed. Would he
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: go back as the leadoff hitter and move JP back please? Yeah,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking, right, That's what we want
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: to see. But I wonder if they'd do that, yeah,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: And if they don't, I don't know where they him.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: I think he's leadoff, Okay, I think JP's the movie.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, JP's hit a couple of home runs and
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: he's got he's getting some walks, but he's not he's
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: it's not like he's stinging the baseball. We can't move
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: him out of first I mean Brendon Donovan was stinging
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: the baseball, yeah, in that spot. So I would assume
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: Brendon Donovan goes right back in the leadoff spot, JP
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: a little lower in the order, and I would imagine
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: that's what they're going to do. Now. The best part
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: about this, and I I don't mean to sound cruel,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: and it's going to come off for sounding cruel. I
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: am so relieved not to see Leo Revos play every day.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That was getting really really hard to do.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: He looked lost at the plate this year, and I
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: think that he's he's got this little something about him,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: like he came through big in some big moments last year,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs against the Tigers. My goodness. So
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: that's nice to have off the bench in terms of
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: an everyday Major league baseball player. I mean, Leo even
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: told us in spring training when we interviewed him that
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: he's going to be a utility player, and he looked
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: like he was really ready to embrace that role and
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: he wants to be in the major league. They don't
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: want to be in the major league. Spend a lot
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: of time in Tacoma last year. So getting Leo back
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: to the role that he needs to be in not
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: having him in the lineup every day, and he really
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: did seem overwhelmed as a hitter here in the last
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: week and a half or so. It at least want
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: him to put the ball in play, and he wasn't
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: even doing that. He was striking out almost every yet bat.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: So I'm glad. I think even better than getting Donovan
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: back is not having Leo in the lineup every day.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just when we need him or when he can
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: come in and do something and provide a little spark
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: as opposed to rely on him every day. Would be nice,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: but he is He's a little spark provider.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And yet I don't want to count on
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: him being a reliable heat source.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: He's like a lighter, Like if.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: I go camping and I need to start a fire.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not going camping every day, right, but I'm going
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: to go on a holiday weekend.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you carry around the lighter because every
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: once in a while you want to light something. Yeah, okay,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: it's not anything that you would heat your home with.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: No, you should not, all right.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: He is for error, and as excited as we are
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: to have Donovan back, do we have to on the
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: verge of playing the White Sox acknowledge maybe a front
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: office error that Munataka Morikami was there for the taking.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: His stock had dropped off so dramatically in the off
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: season because so many teams didn't think he was going
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: to produce enough contact. And he struck out fifty five
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: times this year. So he's striking out a lot. They
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: were right in there scouting report about that. But is
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: he striking out so much that you wouldn't want his
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: fourteen home runs that he's hit so far this season.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: I mean he's second to Aaron Judge right now in
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: home runs. He's got a nine to thirty four ops.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: This is a young man who looks very, very menacing
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: when he is at the plate. So yeah, he strikes
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: out a lot, but he has provided a little bit
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: of a spark for the White Sox. I'd even apply
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: that to Kazo Kamoto, who's another guy that I wanted
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: in the offseason. I wanted. I wanted us to roll
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: the dice on these two guys, even when the stock
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: apparently was plummeting.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when you brought up that it would be
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: great to go after him because people didn't seem as interested.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: I would have taken both of them, Yeah, I mean
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: for what they ended up getting paid. Morikami got two
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: years thirty four million dollars and Okamoto got four years
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: sixty million dollars. That seems like a huge bargain for
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: both of those guys who are both hitting the crap
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: out of the ball so far as made your league
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: baseball players. And so I really like Brendan Donovan and
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: I kind of like what he brings overall to the table.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: So I don't have buyer's remorse with Brendan Donovan, but
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: my goodness, it was maybe a lost opportunity by all
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: other twenty nine teams. Morikami and Okamoto were much better
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: than they were given credit for by all of Major
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: League Baseball. This offseason. I mean, maybe it proved to
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: be wrong. Maybe the pitchers will just yeah, and in
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: the second half they won't be able to make contact
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: at all, and so maybe I'll sing a different tune.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: But so far they are exactly what I thought they
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: were going to be as major league hitters, and it
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: would be nice to have one of them.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't, especially sitting where the Mariners are sitting
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: right now and where the struggles have come at the plate,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: you can't help but think, gosh, that would have been good.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Finally, F is for Forreer and man tip
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: of the cap to Jose for when we acquired Ferrer
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: from the Washington Nationals this offseason and gave up Harry
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: Ford for him. I really thought Harry Ford, all the
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: talk we've had about Harry Ford, that he was such
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: a prospect that he was going to fetch more than
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: a lefty setup reliever who was coming off a pretty
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: good year analytically, but like the base foundation numbers were
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: not all that impressive. Also, now it doesn't strike out guys.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: To me, I'm like, did we just pick up a
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: left handed Gregory Santos because that did not work out
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: for me? For us, but he profiles is that when
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: you start reading about him, then we get to spring
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: training and start to learn a little bit more about him.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: And Jose Ferrer has obviously been a find for the marriage.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: So far, again, it's all so far, but with two
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: of your top five relievers on the shelf right now
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: Andres Munnos not being mooney like so far this season,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: thank goodness for Jose A Ferrara and also a guy
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: that's raising his hand and saying, hey, I know you
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: got to be careful with everybody, but you don't need
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: to do that with me.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's stepping up when we need him most.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: I can pitch every day. I'll pitch three days in
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: a row. It's not gonna affect me. I'm a horse. Wow.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: And so we've been riding that horse. And thank goodness
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: for him because he got to save yesterday. He's been
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: fantastic as a Mariner. So even though they swung and
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: missed on Gregory Santos, because they were just as excited
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: about the Santos acquisition as they were about the Ferrara acquisition,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: and they were very excited about both of them, they
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: kind of swung and miss on Santos. But the Ferrare
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: thing seems to be working out splendidly.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially yeah, as you said, with him coming
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: in yesterday for the save and recognizing it's an early game,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get almost two days of rest after this.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 4: I can pitch three days in a row and be
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 4: just fine.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and hey, hey, everybody should be good for I mean,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: you should have Munos and Bizardo for tomorrow against the
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: White Sox, and then who will be starting for us? Well,
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: that will be wo just pitched, Yeah, so it will
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: be Castillo, correct, it should be Yeah, it should be Castillo.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: Let me just look it up.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because now I'm doubting that too, because I feel
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: like he just no Handcock Hancock tomorrow?
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: Is it? Hancock?
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Handcock tomorrow, because I was gonna say, didn't
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: Castillo just pitch the other day?
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: Hancock and Sean Burke.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: All right, Yes, Emerson, Hancock will go tomorrow, and then
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: on Saturday will be Luis Castillo. All right, So yeah,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: Handcock on Friday. Hopefully he goes deep and you know
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: you can just you can give Freer the day off
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: and then have Munios and Bizardo for a couple of
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: innings on Friday night, who I both have faith in.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: Still Yeah, Just to clarify, one last thing coming your
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: way next. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM