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Rachael Finch Defends Viral Running Video, Skye Wheatley Gets scammed & Sarah's Day's Surprising Admission · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken.
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  Speaker 2: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
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  Speaker 2: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torber and coming up
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  Speaker 2: on today's show, Rachel Finch hits back at critics after
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  Speaker 2: running video goes viral. Sky Wheatley is scammed by a
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  Speaker 2: Thai eye clinic. Sarah's Day's surprising admission and a cafe
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  Speaker 2: is slammed for its secret charges. But first, Gold Coast
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  Speaker 2: influencer Georgia Richards has sparked debate by revealing.
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  Speaker 1: She prefers flat soft drink.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this is probably criminal for a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people, but I've been keeping my Pepsi Max in
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  Speaker 3: the fridge with no lid on so that it goes
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  Speaker 3: flat quickly because I love flat soft drink. I lowkey
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  Speaker 3: feel like that's psycho behavior, but I can't change who
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  Speaker 3: I am.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard anyone do this before. I always thought
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  Speaker 2: that once the soft drink goes flat, you throw it out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because the whole point of soft drink is it's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be bubbly and light and refreshing. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that when soft drink is flat, It tastes so gross
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  Speaker 2: and syrupy.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a different drink.
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  Speaker 2: Have you guys seen all of those people on TikTok
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  Speaker 2: in America who add some kind of sachet to their
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  Speaker 2: Diet Coke? Yeah, and they talk about the Diet Coke
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  Speaker 2: being crispy. And I know exactly what they mean. And
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  Speaker 2: there is a certain art to it. So you have
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  Speaker 2: to have the Diet Coke, not to the point that
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  Speaker 2: it's frozen, but very, very cold. And then you also
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  Speaker 2: have to have pellet ice with it. And yeah, there's
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  Speaker 2: like this sachet of lime. juice that you can put
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  Speaker 2: in there. And there definitely is a difference between a
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  Speaker 2: good Diet Coke and a bad one. I hate drinking
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  Speaker 2: soft drink out of a can. Like I must have
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  Speaker 2: it in a glass with ice.
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  Speaker 1: But back to flat Pepsi, maybe it's so you can
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  Speaker 1: drink more of it. Or that you don't bloat after
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  Speaker 1: you have it.
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  Speaker 2: Personally, I think that any sort of flat soft drink,
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  Speaker 2: it almost makes me feel like I can taste the
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  Speaker 2: chemicals in it.
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  Speaker 1: Just have cordial if you want something flat. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know what the worst is though? Post-mix. Any sort of
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  Speaker 1: post-mix drink.
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  Speaker 2: Because If I get a Post-Mix Coke No Sugar from McDonald's, for.
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  Speaker 1: Some reason, this is TMI, but it makes me piss constantly.
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  Speaker 2: See, I don't usually like Post-Mix, but I do like
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  Speaker 2: a McDonald's Coke No Sugar. I think Post-Mix is different
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  Speaker 2: at McDonald's compared to a restaurant.
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  Speaker 1: That's when it tastes like shit.
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  Speaker 2: But does it make you need to wee constantly when
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  Speaker 2: it's Post-Mix? I think it's any diet soft drink does
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  Speaker 2: that to me.
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  Speaker 1: Suck in the air, suck in the air. Go, go, go.
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  Speaker 2: Rachel Finch has hit back at critics after vision of
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  Speaker 2: her screaming and running behind her daughter went viral.
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  Speaker 1: The former Miss Universe contender has defended her actions, claiming
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  Speaker 1: she was merely trying to motivate her child.
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  Speaker 2: Now, for those who missed it, last week we discussed
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  Speaker 2: how Rachel's behaviour at her eight-year-old daughter's school cross-country race
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  Speaker 2: had sparked debate. To give it context, Rachel said this
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  Speaker 2: about the race.
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  Speaker 1: Cross-country time. Oh, my gosh, I think I'm more nervous
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  Speaker 1: than father. I'm running to the first checkpoint.
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  Speaker 2: I'm about to throw up. I'm getting all these feelings
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  Speaker 2: back up when I used to do it. She then
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  Speaker 2: shared shaky vision of herself running behind her daughter, screaming
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  Speaker 2: encouragement in a clip she named Crazy Cam. Okay, here
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  Speaker 2: we go.
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  Speaker 4: Second downhill.
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  Speaker 1: Suck in the air, suck in the air. Go, go, go.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa.
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  Speaker 1: That's it, Violet. Well done.
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  Speaker 2: Now, as we usually do, we created a promo clip
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  Speaker 2: based on the Rachel topic and shared it on Instagram. Now,
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  Speaker 2: that reel ended up getting over 50,000 views and attracted
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  Speaker 2: a lot of commentary. Rachel's friend and former MKR contestant
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  Speaker 2: Ash Pollard wasn't happy with the reel and tagged Rachel
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  Speaker 2: in it. She accused us of being mean and cruel
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  Speaker 2: and demanded that we remove this pathetic opinion piece before
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  Speaker 2: we destroyed a world meaning human's day.
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  Speaker 1: Ironic that she tagged her friend in it to ruin
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  Speaker 1: her day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I didn't get because she's like, you
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  Speaker 2: better take this down before it ruins Rachel's day, but
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  Speaker 2: tagged her in it. She then proceeded to private message
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  Speaker 2: us saying that it was pathetic material and that we
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  Speaker 2: weren't impacting the world in a positive way whatsoever. Now,
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  Speaker 2: presumably this caused Rachel to hit back. So she jumped
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  Speaker 2: on her Instagram story and said this.
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  Speaker 5: Just a quick message to anyone else wanting to criticize
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  Speaker 5: or personally attack me for wanting to support, encourage, and
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  Speaker 5: motivate my child to do the very best that she
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  Speaker 5: can do. A couple of things.
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  Speaker 1: Just one, check your facts.
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  Speaker 5: And two, check back in eight or so years when
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  Speaker 5: Violet is an adult to see the progress.
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  Speaker 2: Since then, Rachel has blocked Outspoken and our personal Instagram
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  Speaker 2: accounts from being able to view her account.
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  Speaker 1: Quite a reaction.
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  Speaker 2: I was quite taken aback by Rachel's comment telling people
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  Speaker 2: to check back in in eight years time when.
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  Speaker 1: Violet's an adult. Because firstly, if we're fact checking, Violet
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  Speaker 1: will be 16 then. So still not an adult.
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  Speaker 2: And secondly, if anything, that comment has proven just how
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  Speaker 2: much unnecessary pressure she is placing on Violet.
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  Speaker 1: She's eight years old.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows if she still will be competing in cross
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  Speaker 2: country in eight years time. Yeah, it's also a strange
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  Speaker 2: way to defend yourself because there are many parents of
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  Speaker 2: sporting legends out there that conducted themselves in terrible manners
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  Speaker 2: to help their kids achieve success. So think Andre Agassi.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it's the correct way to act just
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  Speaker 2: because they then achieve success as an adult.
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  Speaker 1: Also, our issue wasn't with her screaming encouragement at her child.
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  Speaker 2: It was the fact that she was actually physically running
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  Speaker 2: around the track after her which was potentially putting off
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  Speaker 2: other children in the race.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she interfered with the race.
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  Speaker 2: And funnily enough, since the story went viral, people claiming
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  Speaker 2: to be parents of children at Violet's school have come
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  Speaker 2: out of the woodwork. One woman alleged that Rachel's behavior
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  Speaker 2: impacted her own daughter's performance. She wrote, my daughter was
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  Speaker 2: running directly behind her. She was too intimidated to overtake
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  Speaker 2: due to the mom yelling and getting in the way.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately for Rachel, her commentary seems to have just drawn
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  Speaker 2: more attention to the story because it has been picked
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  Speaker 2: up by some pretty large media publications, including Sunrise, The
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  Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph, Sky News, The Daily Mail and Pedestrian. I
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  Speaker 2: did find Sunrise's coverage very interesting because they ended up
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  Speaker 2: sharing this edited version of the clip of Rachel running
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  Speaker 2: behind her daughter and they cut certain bits out that
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  Speaker 2: made Rachel look like she was yelling. And they also
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  Speaker 2: didn't include the clip of Rachel saying how nervous she
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  Speaker 2: was before the race. So I don't feel like they
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  Speaker 2: set it up correctly.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It appears that they were moderating comments on their social
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  Speaker 2: media too.
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  Speaker 1: And because I had a look at them and I compared.
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  Speaker 2: Them to other media publications and on the other media
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  Speaker 2: publications comment section, all of the comments were negative, but
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  Speaker 2: then on sunrises, all of them were positive and saying
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  Speaker 2: what a great mum she was and being negative towards us. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's interesting when you consider that Rachel previously worked as
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  Speaker 2: a weather presenter on Sunrise and Amy, you sued the network.
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  Speaker 1: So ironic. I mean, the whole thing was misleading though.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that they edited the bits that they clearly
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  Speaker 2: deemed to prove what we were saying out of the
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  Speaker 2: clips just speaks volumes. Also the headline that they ran
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  Speaker 2: with when they put screaming in inverted commas and it's like, Well,
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  Speaker 2: in our commentary, we said she was screaming motivation. And
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  Speaker 2: a lot of parents were in the commentary saying, there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with screaming motivation. It's like, as you said, Amy,
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  Speaker 2: our issue was not with the motivational talk. It was
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  Speaker 2: with running behind her daughter, putting pressure on her and
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  Speaker 2: also interfering with the overall school race. But it was
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  Speaker 2: clear that Sunrise were trying to paint a different, a
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  Speaker 2: completely different picture.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that.
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  Speaker 2: They were trying to relate to those parents who think
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  Speaker 2: that some school communities have gone too woke in not
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  Speaker 2: allowing kids to get first prize or second prize. That's
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  Speaker 2: not what the story was about. And having previously worked
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  Speaker 2: in the media, you obviously have different contacts working at
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  Speaker 2: different publications. Whether Rachel reached out to Sunrise and said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: can you help me out a bit? I need a
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  Speaker 2: bit of positive publicity around this. Because most of the commentary,
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  Speaker 2: probably 99% of it, was saying that she had done
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  Speaker 2: the wrong thing by running after her daughter on the track.
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  Speaker 2: I do understand it must be difficult for Rachel to
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  Speaker 2: hear people talking about her parenting techniques. But if you
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  Speaker 2: are going to be sharing that type of content online,
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  Speaker 2: surely you're going to assume that people are going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about it, especially when it's such controversial behavior. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not the first time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, in our original segment, we spoke about how
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  Speaker 2: she had been criticized for feeding her kids a very
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  Speaker 2: ultra healthy diet. And In that instance, we actually stuck
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  Speaker 2: up for her and said, we don't really see anything
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  Speaker 2: wrong with that. Again, though, she chose to share that content.
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  Speaker 2: She captioned it crazy cam herself. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: she thought she was doing by putting that out there.
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  Speaker 2: And again, I think that people were particularly critical because
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  Speaker 2: they felt as though her behavior was detrimental and impacting
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  Speaker 2: other students at the school, not just her own daughter.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there were question marks around whether a
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  Speaker 2: parent who wasn't a celebrity was would have been able
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  Speaker 2: to act like that. I would love to know the
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  Speaker 2: conversations going on at that school because now that it
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  Speaker 2: has attracted widespread media attention, it almost feels like the
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  Speaker 2: school needs to come out and comment. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 2: guessing that it's an elite private school. And yes, I
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  Speaker 2: think that a lot of questions will be asked why
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  Speaker 2: a parent was allowed to run the race and impact
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  Speaker 2: the other students in that way. They will not be
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  Speaker 2: coming out and publicly commenting about this. However, I would
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  Speaker 2: love to be a fly on the wall of the
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  Speaker 2: staff room.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just go in balls deep. Yeah, balls deep always. Disclaimer,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not proud of this moment.
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  Speaker 2: Sky Wheatley has revealed she's been scammed by a Thai
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  Speaker 2: medical clinic she found on TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: The winner of I'm a Celeb was so desperate.
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  Speaker 2: To get rid of a benign eye condition that she
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  Speaker 2: purchased eye drops from Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Jam Medicine.
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  Speaker 2: Now, after using the eye drops consistently for five months
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  Speaker 2: without any results, She asked her followers if they thought
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  Speaker 2: she'd been scammed. I just find it crazy that she
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  Speaker 2: used the eye drops for five months. It made me
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  Speaker 2: feel really ill when I heard that because I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: what damage has been done? Well, also the fact that
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  Speaker 2: she is taking medical advice from TikTok. Yeah, that is,
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  Speaker 2: I suppose, the scariest part of this whole story. Now,
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  Speaker 2: to help solve the case, Sky provided receipts, including a
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  Speaker 2: message thread between her and Dr. Jam. Now, in the messages,
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  Speaker 2: Sky demanded the doctor send her videos of inside the
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  Speaker 2: medical center and a machine that they had been talking about.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm guessing this is a machine they said would
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  Speaker 2: help with her eye condition. The doctor refused, saying that
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  Speaker 2: there were no videos and the doctors were busy treating patients.
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  Speaker 2: So Sky replied saying, I'm sure they would send some
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  Speaker 2: for me. I've spent that much money. I'm a loyal customer.
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  Speaker 2: She also shared a very dodgy looking review and added, haha,
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  Speaker 2: the review. Fucking hell, I'm such a dumb bish. She
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  Speaker 2: also said that she tried to call the clinic, but
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  Speaker 2: no one answered. Skye also shared screenshots from the clinic's TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: So I have had a look and not to victim blame,
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  Speaker 2: but I cannot believe that she purchased from this TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: It just looked like a complete scam.
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  Speaker 1: Why didn't she just.
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  Speaker 2: Visit her local GP or get a referral to an
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  Speaker 2: eye clinic?
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is the whole issue.
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  Speaker 2: So she has got an eye specialist in Australia and
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  Speaker 2: she has spoken about this eye condition that she suffers
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  Speaker 2: from for quite a while.
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  Speaker 1: So it's called pinguicula.
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  Speaker 2: And it is characterized by a harmless yellowish rays growth
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  Speaker 2: in the white part of the eye. And it can
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  Speaker 2: cause eye redness and irritation and dry eyes. So it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't sound very nice.
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  Speaker 1: And the exact.
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  Speaker 2: Cause is unknown, but it is believed to be caused
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  Speaker 2: by exposure to sun, wind and dust. It's also been
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  Speaker 2: linked to the use of tanning beds, which is quite
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  Speaker 2: ironic considering the sky has been criticized for using tanning
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  Speaker 2: beds in the past.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's scary.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you think this is just a sign of the
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  Speaker 2: times though, in terms of everyone is now using TikTok
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  Speaker 2: as a search engine, a bit like how people would
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  Speaker 2: use Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Google.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm surprised in this case, because as you said, Kate,
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  Speaker 2: not to victim blame, but this TikTok account didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Look very legit.
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  Speaker 2: It does have 39,000 followers and there is one video
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  Speaker 2: that has over 1.7 million views, but The majority of
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  Speaker 2: the content is in Thai, so I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: she could understand the content. But when you're desperate for
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  Speaker 2: a solution, she's been told by her specialist, really, there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing else we can do for you apart from if
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  Speaker 2: you want to have surgery. Well, no, they've told her
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  Speaker 2: it's not actually bad enough to have the surgery. So
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  Speaker 2: surgery is only recommended when it potentially could be a
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  Speaker 2: cancerous growth and they're worried about that. But it sounds
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  Speaker 2: very full on the surgery that you need to have,
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  Speaker 2: like the growth is removed and it has to be
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  Speaker 2: replaced by bits of eye. It just sounded so gross.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing is, if something sounds too good to
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  Speaker 2: be true, quite often it is because I tried to
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  Speaker 2: click on the website to find out how much these
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  Speaker 2: eye drops cost, but it took me to some weird
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  Speaker 2: link and I was worried that I was going to
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  Speaker 2: get a virus on my phone.
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  Speaker 1: But then I found a.
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  Speaker 2: Video that is converted into English and it claimed that
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  Speaker 2: the eye drops will cure the condition that Skye suffers
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  Speaker 2: from in a matter of days without surgery.
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  Speaker 1: So that does seem quite unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: I just hope that whatever she's been putting in her
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  Speaker 2: eyes is just a clear solution or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not actually hasn't made it worse. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: it's just Visine or something.
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  Speaker 2: One of her followers did ask her why she would
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  Speaker 2: purchase a medical product from Thailand. And she replied, because
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  Speaker 2: it's making me sad and I focus on it a
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  Speaker 2: lot and I just want healthy looking eyes. I was hopeful, lol,
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  Speaker 2: but I kind of thought it was a scam. But
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  Speaker 2: the eye drops actually came. I was like, oh, maybe
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  Speaker 2: it's legit. but I've also been using them for five
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  Speaker 2: months and no change. I mean, my eyes were less inflamed, haha,
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  Speaker 2: but no change. It's really sad that people prey on
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  Speaker 2: people's vulnerability because in this instance she's obviously so desperate
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  Speaker 2: to fix this condition that she's willing to try some
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  Speaker 2: random eye drops that she already thinks possibly are a scam.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I thought she might have.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: Been more savvy after the whole botched Thai breast implant
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  Speaker 2: issue because she's been very vocal about that around.
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  Speaker 1: Months Is it around 10 years ago now?
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  Speaker 2: She did have her breast implants done in Thailand and
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  Speaker 2: she has had so many medical issues off the back
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  Speaker 2: of it and had to get them.
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  Speaker 1: Fixed in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's just a warning for everyone not
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  Speaker 2: to buy any medicine off TikTok. Yeah, well, I am
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  Speaker 2: a little bit concerned because Sky did put up another
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  Speaker 2: Q & A box asking if castor oil helped with
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  Speaker 2: her eye condition.
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  Speaker 1: Just don't put random shit in your eyes. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think she needs to go back to her specialist.
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  Speaker 4: Surely I'm not the only one. I feel like most
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  Speaker 4: families have certain items in their household that they would
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  Speaker 4: like call them names that they're not.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah's Day has admitted she didn't know the names of
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  Speaker 2: some household items until she was in her 20s. The
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  Speaker 2: fitness influencer confessed that her family made up new names
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  Speaker 2: for everyday items, which led to confusion in her adult years.
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  Speaker 4: Starting off strong with toasted sandwich. I didn't call it
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  Speaker 4: a toasted sandwich for the first 20.
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  Speaker 1: Years of my life.
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  Speaker 4: All my friends called them Jaffles. I was like, what
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  Speaker 4: the heck is Jaffle? I thought they were talking about Jaffas,
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  Speaker 4: like those lollies, like the chocolate lollies. My family called
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: it Brevels. Like the brand of the sandwich press, like
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  Speaker 4: I thought they were called Brevels. And I would honestly
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: go to cafes and order Brevels.
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny because our family did the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 2: We had so many made up names for just everyday
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  Speaker 2: household things. And it wasn't until I was quite old
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  Speaker 2: until Brandon paid me out and said.
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  Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, I couldn't believe when she said Breville, because that's
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: what our family have always called toasties. And I've never
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: heard anyone else say it before. I find it funny
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: that there are so many different terms for toastie. Like
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: toasty is such a simple way of explaining a toasted sandwich.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: But it seems like everyone has grown up with a
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: different one. Like Reese's family used to call them toasty toasties.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I know Dale and his friends debate whether it's a
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: toasty roasty or a toasty posty. Toasty roasty sounds delicious,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: but I feel like it should have some, like that
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: doesn't just have cheese. I feel like that would have.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Potato in it.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's because there's two different types of toasted sandwiches.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: So there's toasties or jaffles. So Jaffles are made in
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: a special jaffle maker and they have special grooves to
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: create a pattern on the bread and there's a clamp
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: and it seals the edges. In a jaffle, you could
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: have things like canned spaghetti because it's not going to
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: fall out the edges.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: But with a toasty, it's a flat iron. So you
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: could do it on a pan or it's just a flat.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I think a toasty is more of a traditional basic sandwich.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I prefer a toasty to a jaffle.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Really? What?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, I much prefer a jaffle. We grew up. With Jaffa.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: So you know what Dale makes sometimes in the Jaffa maker,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: he will do two minute noodles with baked beans and cheese.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: Well, all together.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: That is disgusting. I do want to argue for the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: use of the word Breville.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I would like to know how many listeners also refer
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: to toasties as Breville's growing up because when Breville's came
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: out in 1974, their whole marketing was around, let's call
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: this a Breville. Like it was great brand awareness because
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: They had ads saying, this is a Breville.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: This isn't a toasty or a Jaffel.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: But as my husband said, it's not as if you
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: call toasties sunbeams. And I'm sure sunbeam also have Jaffel makers.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: It is a great marketing technique because we're still talking
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: about it, what, 30 years on. God, does anyone else
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: feel like a toasty at the moment? Yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: My go-to one is baked beans, cheese, and a little
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: bit of chili flakes.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I haven't had baked beans in a toasty for a
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: while because I think it just gets so messy.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And if I'm having to clean it up.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I actually like putting a bit of Vegemite in my
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: toasties with the cheese. It's like a bit of a
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: cheesy-mite toastie.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: How the hell are you meant to clean the Jaffel
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: pan or your Breville?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: You never do.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: And I think that's why it tastes so good because
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: it has years and years of coated butter in there
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: and you just wipe it out with.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: A piece of paper towel. We actually have Risa's grandparents'
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: old one and it's like the one Dad and Mum have.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Extra flavour. And it is so good, yeah. 50 years
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: of flavor on that one.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Now, one of the other names that Sarah wasn't sure
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: of until she was in her 20s was a TV remote.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: So she used to call it the Zapper.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: And she said it wasn't until one of Sarah's friends
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: came over and Sarah said, could you pass me the Zapper?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: And her friend was like, what on earth are you
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: talking about that she realized?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard of Zapper before. I've heard of Clicker,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the Flickr. I mean, we just called it the remote
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: at home. Well, someone wrote in saying they also called
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: it buttons growing up. Buttons is kind of cute. Get
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the buttons. That's actually very cute. Doesn't it sound so
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Kath and Kim? I can imagine them being like, yeah,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: hand over the zapper. I feel like our family made
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: up so many of these. The ones that I could
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: think of was curry in a hurry.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: So it wasn't until I was 24 that I realized
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: that curry was just curry.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, because I mentioned it to a boyfriend and he's like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Weren't you like 18? No,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I was 24. That's really sad.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Another one is Tajay. So that is the nickname for Target.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Our parents would always say, I'm going to Tajay. And
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I always thought it was a different store. Tajay does
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: sound a lot fancier. I think that's one that they
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: probably embrace themselves. Another one that we get paid out
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: a lot about is Sleepy Man. So apparently that's just
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: called sleep, that stuff that's in your eye after you
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: go to sleep. But And mom used to be like, oh,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: you've got a sleepy man in your eye. She also,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is on the same page,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: but when we were little, she also used to tell
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: us that if we didn't come inside when it was cold,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: that Jack Frost would get us.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I pass that on to friends and stuff. And they're like,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: what the hell is that? It's a character in a book,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: isn't it? Jack Frost. I think it is.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: It makes me excited to think of all of the
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: stupid things that Kate, we're going to be able to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: tell your baby just like makeup oh yeah we'll have
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: to completely mess with him so it's not until he
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: gets a girlfriend who's like what let's put a thread
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: in the facebook group and people can share some funny
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: ones in there and that maybe we can implement those we've.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Never gotten so many complaints every two minutes where's the
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: top of this month who.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Ate the rest of it Melbourne cafe owners have been
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: forced to apologise after podcaster Peter Williams slammed their venue
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: for secretly charging him $ 1 to have his muffin heated.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I just got the quote from Mean Girls in my head.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Would you like someone assigned to butter your muffin? Yeah. Well,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: in a post which has recently gone viral, Peter, who
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: is also a motivational speaker, explained that he recently dined
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: at Leaf and Vine at Ringwood in Melbourne's east. when
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: he was charged $ 1 to heat up his $ 7 raspberry
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: and white chocolate muffin. Now, he alleged that the charge
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: was added to his bill without his knowledge, and he
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: told his 26,000 followers on Facebook that it left a
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: real bitter taste in his mouth. He wrote, I was
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: having a fantastic time all until that very moment that
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I got the receipt. I wasn't in a space or
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: position to argue for it. Always make sure you are checking.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: We have to lift the standard here. I feel for
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: him because this happened to me the other day at
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a venue I won't name, but I got a hot
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: chocolate and I wanted to get it in a paper
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: cup because I was getting the absolute ick. This place
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: usually serves them in a mug and they pour chocolate
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: all around the edge and it's absolutely delicious. But when
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I was sitting in the cafe, I could see everyone
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: else like licking it, the cup, and I was like, oh,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: how clean really is that? And then they charged me,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I think it was $ 9. 50 for a hot chocolate in
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: a takeaway cup.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: That's outrageous.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I went to pay and I must have
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: given the girl a weird look and she's like, oh, sorry, yeah,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: it's a bit more in a takeaway cup.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, why?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to clean it. To be fair,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: it was a monstrous cup. Yeah, it was delicious. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I think that this is why this post went viral
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: because so many people could relate to it because at
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: the moment the cost of living is so astronomically high
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that And a lot of businesses are taking advantage of
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: customers by adding in little surcharges that don't need to
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: be there. I don't think that it's small businesses that
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: are screwing people over because they're having to also compete
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: with the cost of living and they're having to pay
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: staff wages, which usually at a cafe is the bulk
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: of your bill. So normally they're having to charge a
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: lot for coffees to make up for the fact that
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: they're having to pay staff so much. Yeah, I totally
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: understand that and it would be such a difficult time
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: to have a small business. But I also think that
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: in this circumstance it was one of those sneaky little
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: charges that didn't have to happen because we also have
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: to remember that people are struggling so much at the moment. Yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and I think that just comes– $ 8 in.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Total to be served up a muffin?
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I would assume that the owner probably thought, look, if
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you're paying $ 7 for a muffin, you're probably not struggling
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: that much. Doesn't this not just feel very 2012, though,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: that this post went viral on Facebook? Because I feel
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: like the core demographic of Facebook is Gen Xers and
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: baby boomers, and they would have been livid about this.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: They hate any extra charge and they will quibble over it,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: even though they're probably the ones.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Who can afford it. It just comes down to communication.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: So if the person has said, hey, that's an extra
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: charge of $ 1, And then given the guy the option
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: to say, no, I don't want to pay an extra dollar.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Well, on Wednesday, the cafe owners, Beck and Pete Murray.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Pete Murray. Yeah, it's not the Pete Murray.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Well, they made an appearance on Channel 9's A Current
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Affair defending their store from the hate and negative comments
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: they said.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: This made A Current Affair?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So this was the perfect A Current Affair story
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: because they live for petty disputes like this. Now, Beck
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and Pete told the program that the charge was a mistake.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Beck said it was a mistake by someone who was
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: in training. We don't charge to heat up a muffin.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: We never will and never had. They then went on
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to explain that the error was apparently due to a
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: new employee getting confused over the store's 2000 plus buttons.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm calling bullshit here.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: As someone who has been a very hopeless waiter in
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the past, and there is no way that I would
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: have been able to accidentally stumble over to find the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: exact button that specifically.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Charged patrons for hitting up that item. Do you know
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: what I think it is? I think it was a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: dickhead charge.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You know when someone's rude to you at a restaurant
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and there's probably that button where you're like, I'm going
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: to charge you a little bit extra because you were
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: rude to me. I think that's a bit harsh for
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: this poor guy. I actually think that when you're a
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: new employee, you're a real stickler for the rules. And
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: they were probably told, Yes, you have to make sure
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: you put these extra charges on. Yeah. And now they're
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: playing dumb and saying, oh, no, it was an accident.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: As you said, Soph, I remember we used to work
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: at Baker's Delight and there was a button for every
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: single product.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I used to get so flustered.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I have noticed at Zambreros that they do charge you
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: for extra stuff too. But I think it depends on
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: how nice you are because I'm someone who orders extra
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: sauce and sometimes I'll get charged and sometimes I won't.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this guy's a dickhead. He sounds
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: really nice.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying sometimes there are instances where cafes will
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: charge you extra, maybe if you didn't ask as nicely
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: or if they don't know you.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not fair.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I actually think it seems like it's been a direct
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: instruction from someone high up that, okay, when someone orders
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: a muffin, here's a little extra if they ask for
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: this to be heated up. I also question– Why are
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: there 200 plus buttons? They must have a pretty extensive menu.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Wait, you asked that question.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, every time we go out with friends, most of
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: our friends have dietary requirements or you want something particular
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: removed from an item.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you type that in. That's not a special button.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: No.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but also with all the different milk variations these
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: days and people are very picky. I mean, I actually
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: probably would pay a dollar to have a muffin heated
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: up because there's nothing worse than a stale muffin. Amy,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: we were at a cafe the other day. We ordered
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: savoury muffins and it could have been hotter. It actually
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: ruined the.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Overall taste of the muffin.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like I've got into a bad
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: habit of getting Cheesy Mike's Scrolls from Baker's Delight and
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: one time the girl offered to.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Heat it up. Oh, that was a late. I was
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: there with you. I don't believe I was charged for
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: it and now I just can't have it cold. Anyway,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: back to this story.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Beck did continue saying those 200 items don't always work
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: to plan. In this instance, this one had a surcharge
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: attached to it but it shouldn't have. The couple also
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: said that they would have given Peter a refund if
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: he asked for one and wish he wouldn't have named
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: and shamed them online.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I am sorry. Again, I am on Peter's side here.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Why is it up to Peter to scrutinize every receipt
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: that he gets? You don't expect people to be sneaky
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and add in extra charges like this. When it's only
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: a dollar, it is a bit embarrassing to say something because, again,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: when I got charged $ 9.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: 50 for my hot chocolates, Inside, I was dying. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: was like, this is ridiculous.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I would never pay $ 9. 50 or choose to pay that
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: amount for a hot chocolate.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I felt ripped off. But I just said, yeah, cool, whatever.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Got on with it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I suppose it's funny because he has gone the extra
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: step to name and chain them online. But I think
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: there's a difference between saying, gosh, is anyone else outraged
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: by this on social media to actually saying something in person? Well,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: the cafe owners, they really did use the current affairs
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: story as an opportunity to blame Peter. So they said,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: it's unfortunate that when I contacted Peter, he took six
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: hours to reply to me after watching the plethora of
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: a snowstorm of comments on social media damning us. Now,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Peter declined to speak to a current affair and claimed
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the coverage of the story was heavily edited. leading him
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: to release a four-page statement that reputed many of their claims.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I just love how much time has been wasted over
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: this dollar search option. So he explained that he had
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: spoken to the owners privately and they apologized over the
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: extra charge and explained that they received significant backlash because.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Of the post. So he agreed to remove.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: The post because it was not his intention to call
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: out the business specifically and because they apologized for the charge.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: He then explained that he refrained from talking to the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: media because he felt like the matter had been resolved.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: He then wanted to explain why he went to social
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: media instead of approaching the cafe to sort out the issue.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: He said he was disappointed when he saw the charge,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: but had already left the cafe and was traveling interstate.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: He wrote, to be honest, I did not believe it
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: was an error, system, trainee or otherwise. The charge was specific,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: purposeful and perfectly aligned with their actions.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: No different to.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: The charges of almond milk and mug charges on the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: previous receipts from the cafe. If the charge was for
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: something completely random or a double up that I thought
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: was a genuine error, of course, I would have taken
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: it to them. or more than likely not bothered with
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: any action at all. I felt the charge and more importantly,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: not being told about the charge was wrong.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So I called it out. I agree with everything he said.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I think the mistake was he maybe just shouldn't have
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: named the cafe. Yeah, but I think he's within his
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: right to do so because he's warning people, if you
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: go to that cafe, be careful, you might get some
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: extra charges. I don't think he should have named and
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: shamed them because at the end of the day, it
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: is a small business. Everyone is struggling. I think it
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: is just an interesting conversation to have. about how we
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: feel about these additional charges and whether we think that
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: they're fair and how they should be communicated because that
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: should be listed on a menu. I also don't think
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: he thought that it would get the attention that it
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: did as well. I mean, he also has taken a
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: pretty big swipe at a current affair. He said that
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: it's important to note that a current affair put his
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: face and business on screen without permission and aired a
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: post that he had taken down. And he said, He'd
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: been made out to be the bad guy for calling
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: something out that affects.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Everything, everyone.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: And that's a prime example of sometimes why you should
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: talk to the media. We often tell our clients that,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: that sometimes it's better to be giving your opinion in
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: a story as opposed to them just taking grabs off
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the internet. Well, yeah, you've got to be proactive in
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: sharing your side of the story, because as we said,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: this is a perfect Dakaran affair style story. So they
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: needed both parties to speak. And in most instances, they
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: probably would have been on the customer's side because their
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: audience would have heavily related to being stung. But because
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: he didn't speak, they thought, fuck this guy, we're.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Going to make him the baddie. They didn't even necessarily think,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: fuck this guy.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: But if you're giving all of this airtime to the
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: restaurant owner, they're going to be able to have more
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: time to get their point across. See, I actually thought
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: they would have thought, fuck this guy, because from someone
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: who's worked, Amy, we both worked at Today Tonight, it's
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: very frustrating when someone does refuse to speak. And in
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: this situation, with a current affairs style story, it's a
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: bit more opinion, like you can actually more personally make
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: it a bit more biased than a straight news story. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but we've been approached before by different news outlets to
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  Speaker 2: commentate on different issues. And if you're busy, sometimes you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't really have the time to do it. And
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: you might not want to put your face to a
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  Speaker 2: story where you're squabbling over a dollar. But I can
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: totally understand why he didn't want to talk to a
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: current affair because I think he was shocked how much
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: attention this post actually got.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe he thought by not talking it would shut
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  Speaker 1: it down.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's where we're going to leave things today
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: because I feel like everyone is extremely hungry after all
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: of these food topics.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: You've got to get a muffin and a toasty.
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  Speaker 2: the Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains.
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