Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #214 Creating Margin
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
- 0:07Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Now, the first one is intention, and I think it's
- 0:12Speaker 2: just so important that we actually work out what our
- 0:15Speaker 2: intention is, what are we actually hoping to get out
- 0:17Speaker 2: of what?
- 0:18Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum
- 0:21Speaker 1: and dad.
- 0:22Speaker 3: Hello.
- 0:22Speaker 4: This is doctor Justin Colson, the author of six books
- 0:25Speaker 4: about raising happy families. Here with Kylie, my wife and
- 0:28Speaker 4: co host and the mum to our six daughters.
- 0:31Speaker 2: And I want to highlight another review on the podcast
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- 0:40Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 0:40Speaker 2: This one's super short, but it's wonderful practical series from
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- 0:48Speaker 3: Hey, thank you so much, Threema.
- 0:49Speaker 4: We really appreciate that those five star reviews help other
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- 1:04Speaker 2: So today I thought that we might tackle something that
- 1:06Speaker 2: you and I actually struggle with a fair bit. Well, actually,
- 1:09Speaker 2: I'm going to push this all onto you. This is
- 1:11Speaker 2: something you struggle with a lot. I really made some
- 1:14Speaker 2: conscious efforts this year to be more intentional about how
- 1:17Speaker 2: I spend my time, and in particular actually saying no,
- 1:21Speaker 2: I'm feeling.
- 1:22Speaker 4: A little bit attacked here. I'm feeling a little bit threatened.
- 1:25Speaker 4: Are you saying that? I don't say knowing that I'm
- 1:26Speaker 4: not intentional.
- 1:28Speaker 2: There is a little quote that you use a lot
- 1:30Speaker 2: in our house, and it's bite off for more than
- 1:33Speaker 2: you can chew? Does it sound like anything you might say?
- 1:36Speaker 3: All right, so there's a little bit of history here.
- 1:38Speaker 3: I didn't know you're going to go there.
- 1:40Speaker 4: So basically, years and years and years ago, I was
- 1:44Speaker 4: goofing off and coming up with kind of like a
- 1:46Speaker 4: mantra or a motto for my life, like what's one
- 1:48Speaker 4: line that describes what my life is? And I couldn't
- 1:51Speaker 4: come up with one, but I came up with two.
- 1:53Speaker 4: And the first one was always bought off more than
- 1:55Speaker 4: I can chew, and the second one is make it
- 1:57Speaker 4: up as you go along, because obviously, once you bite
- 1:59Speaker 4: off more than you you got to, you gotta just
- 2:01Speaker 4: shoot from the hip and you know what.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I actually loved that about you because we have achieved
- 2:07Speaker 2: things that we would never have achieved if you hadn't
- 2:09Speaker 2: have done that.
- 2:10Speaker 4: It makes life exciting when you just say yes to everything.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also quite exhausting.
- 2:16Speaker 3: It is.
- 2:16Speaker 4: It reminds me of a really really I think clever
- 2:20Speaker 4: Seinfeld skit from years ago. It was on his show
- 2:23Speaker 4: and I found it on YouTube. Have a listen and
- 2:26Speaker 4: see if this sounds a bit like me.
- 2:27Speaker 3: I never get enough sleep. I stay up late at
- 2:29Speaker 3: night because I'm Nate guy. Nate guy wants to stay
- 2:32Speaker 3: up late. What about getting up after five hours sleep?
- 2:35Speaker 3: Oh that's morning guys, cross, It's not my problem. I'm
- 2:38Speaker 3: nake guy, as they want. So you get up in
- 2:42Speaker 3: the morning.
- 2:42Speaker 2: You won.
- 2:42Speaker 3: You're exhausting, gluggy. I hate that Nate guy. It's a
- 2:47Speaker 3: Nate guy, always screwled morning guy. There's nothing morning guy
- 2:51Speaker 3: can do. The only morning guy can do is try
- 2:54Speaker 3: obously often enough so that dead guy loses a job
- 2:57Speaker 3: and night guy has no money to go out anymore. Oh,
- 3:00Speaker 3: I'm kind of I just love it. I'm kind of
- 3:02Speaker 3: a night guy, right.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Oh, you were so a Nika. But it's even weekend guy,
- 3:07Speaker 2: you look at our calendar at the beginning of the weekend,
- 3:09Speaker 2: you realize that we're completely and utterly free for the weekend,
- 3:13Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, this is awesome. No commitments. We can
- 3:18Speaker 2: just get things done in the house, have some time
- 3:22Speaker 2: with the kids. And all of a sudden, you've made suggestions,
- 3:26Speaker 2: several suggestions, not just one, but several suggestions about what
- 3:29Speaker 2: we might do to fill up that time. By the
- 3:32Speaker 2: time we get to the weekend, we're so exhausted. You've
- 3:35Speaker 2: booked in two or three social events that require our time, attention,
- 3:40Speaker 2: and energy. And I'm looking at you, going I just
- 3:44Speaker 2: want to.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Go to bed.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you bought it more than you can chew,
- 3:49Speaker 4: you get to have so much more fun. There's no
- 3:51Speaker 4: fun in but well, I shouldn't say there's no fun
- 3:52Speaker 4: in but we have six children. But I think I
- 3:56Speaker 4: can't believe you just said that, But I think that
- 3:59Speaker 4: there's this thing going on with no milk. And I
- 4:02Speaker 4: so years and years and years ago, I think we
- 4:04Speaker 4: were expecting child number three, or maybe child number four,
- 4:07Speaker 4: and I decided that I was going to be noble
- 4:09Speaker 4: and helpful around the house, and so I picked up
- 4:11Speaker 4: all of the dirty washing. I made a dark's pile,
- 4:14Speaker 4: I made a white pile, and I made a pink
- 4:16Speaker 4: spile because we had lots of little girls and the
- 4:20Speaker 4: dark's pile was huge, and I thought, well, I'll start
- 4:22Speaker 4: with the big pile. And you were expecting, and so
- 4:24Speaker 4: I was trying to do this so that you didn't
- 4:25Speaker 4: have to do all of the housework, because you know,
- 4:27Speaker 4: I was trying to be noble. And I stuffed a
- 4:30Speaker 4: whole lot of clothing into the washing machine, like probably
- 4:33Speaker 4: two and a half loads worth.
- 4:34Speaker 3: I just kept on jamming it in there, more and
- 4:36Speaker 3: more and more.
- 4:37Speaker 4: Because there was I just thought, why would I do
- 4:39Speaker 4: this in two or three loads when.
- 4:40Speaker 3: I can do it in one. When I pulled the washing.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Nay Moum that's listening right now knows where this is going.
- 4:48Speaker 4: I think I deserve points for trying anyway. So I've
- 4:50Speaker 4: pulled the washing out, and as I'm pulling it out,
- 4:52Speaker 4: it's dirtier coming out than it was when it went in.
- 4:55Speaker 4: And there's all of this fuzz all over the washing,
- 4:57Speaker 4: and like, what have I done here? There's something the
- 4:59Speaker 4: matter with washing machine. You walked into the kitchen and
- 5:02Speaker 4: I'm staring at the Harvey Norman Electrical Appliance Catalog, thinking,
- 5:06Speaker 4: I need to buy a new washing machine for our
- 5:07Speaker 4: family because this one's on the blink, and you then
- 5:11Speaker 4: described it to me once you saw and diagnosed the
- 5:14Speaker 4: problem that the washing machine doesn't work properly when you
- 5:17Speaker 4: try and cram too much in.
- 5:19Speaker 2: It's kind of like the refrigerator when it's too full,
- 5:21Speaker 2: it doesn't keep everything cold. You things go off so
- 5:24Speaker 2: much faster. Our lives are exactly like that.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Don't try to cram too much in.
- 5:28Speaker 4: So what we want to do as we finish the
- 5:31Speaker 4: psychoanalysis of Justin Coilson and his desire to do all
- 5:35Speaker 4: things all the time, what we want to do is
- 5:39Speaker 4: talk to about how we can create more margin in
- 5:41Speaker 4: our lives.
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- 6:00Speaker 2: It's the Happy Families Podcast. The podcast for the time
- 6:03Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers now and today doctor
- 6:07Speaker 2: Justin is looking for answers to create more margin in
- 6:11Speaker 2: his life.
- 6:11Speaker 4: Well, I clearly have no idea how to create breathing space.
- 6:14Speaker 4: My life motto, like I said, is always bought up
- 6:16Speaker 4: more than you can chew. And just to put this
- 6:18Speaker 4: into context, if you look at my bedside table, there
- 6:21Speaker 4: are how many books would you say are currently on
- 6:23Speaker 4: my bedside table?
- 6:25Speaker 2: Oh, you have a bookshelf for a bedside table. I
- 6:28Speaker 2: actually need to buy you a bookshelf because the bedside table,
- 6:32Speaker 2: the poor thing, is weighed down by piles, and the
- 6:36Speaker 2: most piles spill over onto the carpet because you can't
- 6:39Speaker 2: possibly fit them all. I think at the moment you
- 6:41Speaker 2: would have no less than thirty books at the same
- 6:43Speaker 2: time being at your bedside.
- 6:45Speaker 4: At the same time, we're trying to binge watch a
- 6:46Speaker 4: new Netflix series that we've really enjoyed, and we can't.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Do it once a week like the old days when
- 6:52Speaker 2: you used to watch it come out.
- 6:56Speaker 3: It makes me feel really bad.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Here Netflix is there so you can and you can
- 7:00Speaker 2: you know, watch it when you and you know watch
- 7:04Speaker 2: it when you want.
- 7:04Speaker 3: That's right. I have no restraint. I have no restraint.
- 7:07Speaker 4: When the Tour de France is on, I become night
- 7:09Speaker 4: guy and I'll stay up until two o'clock watching the
- 7:12Speaker 4: Tour de France, and then I expect to get up
- 7:13Speaker 4: four hours later.
- 7:14Speaker 3: And function. Are you sure you.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Didn't have a conversation with Jerry before he did that skit?
- 7:18Speaker 2: I'm sure he's talking about you, all right?
- 7:20Speaker 4: So how do we create margin missus happy families? Because
- 7:24Speaker 4: clearly it's not my strength.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Look, I think there's three things that will really really
- 7:29Speaker 2: make a difference for you, if you'll listen.
- 7:32Speaker 3: I feel like I'm on the couch.
- 7:35Speaker 2: The first one is intention, and I think it's just
- 7:37Speaker 2: so important that we actually work out what our intention is.
- 7:41Speaker 2: What are we actually hoping to get out of life?
- 7:43Speaker 4: If everything, literally I want to get everything out of life.
- 7:48Speaker 2: We can't be good at everything and we can't do everything,
- 7:53Speaker 2: So what are the things that are most important? And
- 7:56Speaker 2: that kind of I guess leads into the second part.
- 7:59Speaker 4: Hang on, I just want to I want to drill
- 8:01Speaker 4: down on this for a second, because as much as
- 8:02Speaker 4: I've joked around, we have as a couple been breathtakingly
- 8:07Speaker 4: intentional over the years, as we've tried to refine that
- 8:11Speaker 4: concept of what are the things that matter most. There's
- 8:14Speaker 4: a quote from Steve and Urcovey in his book Seven
- 8:16Speaker 4: Habits of Highly Effective People where he says, the things
- 8:18Speaker 4: that matter most must never be at the mercy of
- 8:21Speaker 4: the things which matter least.
- 8:23Speaker 2: I love that, and I love it because it's so
- 8:28Speaker 2: easy for us to get caught up in the thick
- 8:31Speaker 2: of thin things. We literally kind of get so caught
- 8:35Speaker 2: up in all of these urgent disasters.
- 8:38Speaker 4: Yeah, or just the need to watch Netflix. I'm sitting
- 8:42Speaker 4: here nursing and Netflix hangover right now.
- 8:43Speaker 3: That's the truth of it.
- 8:44Speaker 4: We shouldn't have stayed up late last night watching that show,
- 8:47Speaker 4: and now I've got.
- 8:48Speaker 3: A headache for it.
- 8:49Speaker 4: But I was acting without intention. I wasn't keeping the
- 8:53Speaker 4: main thing the main thing, and that's the main thing
- 8:57Speaker 4: watching Netflix. No keeping the main thing the main thing.
- 8:59Speaker 4: That's the main thing is to keep the main thing
- 9:01Speaker 4: the main thing. So have intentional I actually know what
- 9:03Speaker 4: the main thing is and then live according to it.
- 9:05Speaker 4: This is actually a really great wake up call, and
- 9:08Speaker 4: I think that we do need to change the way
- 9:09Speaker 4: we're doing some things.
- 9:11Speaker 3: And the fact that I'm trying to do it all.
- 9:13Speaker 2: So intention it's all about self control, right, It's all
- 9:15Speaker 2: about discipline, It's all about recognizing where you're headed and
- 9:20Speaker 2: what you need to do to get there. And that
- 9:22Speaker 2: really leads in nicely to point number two, which is
- 9:24Speaker 2: to plan our big rocks. You know, what are the
- 9:28Speaker 2: things that are most important for us to achieve and
- 9:31Speaker 2: they need to go in first before we add in
- 9:33Speaker 2: all the extra stuff, like you know, I'm biding friends
- 9:35Speaker 2: over for dinner on Saturday night.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Right, So, but get clear on your priorities.
- 9:38Speaker 4: In other words, if sleep, getting enough sleep is a priority,
- 9:41Speaker 4: and I can't emphasize this, enough sleep is not a
- 9:43Speaker 4: luxury item as a parent, you don't.
- 9:46Speaker 2: We talked about this last Thursday. But don't get enough sleep?
- 9:50Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, but it's not a luxury item, and
- 9:53Speaker 4: the good quality sleep that you need should not be
- 9:56Speaker 4: at the mercy of a Netflix series. Watch Netflix on
- 10:00Speaker 4: a day where you actually do have the capacity in
- 10:02Speaker 4: the time to do it.
- 10:03Speaker 2: I think I'm putting this episode on a repeat, right.
- 10:05Speaker 3: Okay, So.
- 10:07Speaker 4: Priority priorities, prioritize Both of those woods combined tell us
- 10:13Speaker 4: that once we've got our intention set, we've actually got
- 10:15Speaker 4: to live it. What are our big rocks. What do
- 10:17Speaker 4: we put into the diary every single week? What do
- 10:19Speaker 4: we maintain so that our family functions? Well, this could
- 10:24Speaker 4: be instructive for anybody who's sort of feeling a bit
- 10:26Speaker 4: out of control.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Well, we have a family meeting every morning so that
- 10:30Speaker 2: we can help set our intention for the day. We
- 10:33Speaker 2: check in with the kids, we find out what needs
- 10:35Speaker 2: to be done, so we've got all of those I
- 10:38Speaker 2: guess logistics planned out throughout the day.
- 10:40Speaker 4: Yeah, and we also spend time focused on a specific
- 10:43Speaker 4: value or a specific teaching or principle that we want
- 10:46Speaker 4: the children to have emphasized and to really encourage them
- 10:50Speaker 4: to live good lives.
- 10:52Speaker 2: And I think the other thing that's really important is
- 10:54Speaker 2: we're really intentional about sitting down to have dinner together
- 10:57Speaker 2: at the end of the day. So we start our
- 10:58Speaker 2: day together and we end our day together. As much
- 11:00Speaker 2: as it's possible. Now that we have teenage girls who.
- 11:02Speaker 4: Have social lives, we try and plan a date night
- 11:04Speaker 4: each week. We lock in super Saturday so that the
- 11:08Speaker 4: kids know early in the week this Saturday morning for
- 11:10Speaker 4: the two hours, this low cost or no cost activity
- 11:12Speaker 4: where we're together as a family. We've got that locked
- 11:14Speaker 4: in I go for a run with a couple of
- 11:18Speaker 4: the kids on a couple of the mornings each week.
- 11:20Speaker 4: We lock in our exercise, so we actually make sure
- 11:23Speaker 4: that we put these big rocks in so that the
- 11:25Speaker 4: daddy daughter dates happen, or the quality time between you
- 11:28Speaker 4: and I happen. That stuff has to happen, and everything
- 11:31Speaker 4: else fits in around that.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Yeah. The last one is learning to say no. And
- 11:38Speaker 2: it's so funny because our tiny little toddler's known the
- 11:41Speaker 2: word no.
- 11:41Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 11:43Speaker 2: As we get older, we have a hard time saying no.
- 11:46Speaker 2: So if we're looking to create margin our lives, we
- 11:49Speaker 2: need to kind of, I guess, go through those filters
- 11:52Speaker 2: of what are our big rocks, what is our intention?
- 11:55Speaker 2: What's the things that are most important for us as
- 11:57Speaker 2: a family to flourish and grow together and happiness. That's
- 12:01Speaker 2: our whole plan, right, we want a happy family. We
- 12:03Speaker 2: need to learn to be able to recognize when something
- 12:06Speaker 2: doesn't fit the mold and say no.
- 12:08Speaker 4: I feel like you've actually constructed this podcast to teach
- 12:11Speaker 4: me a lesson. I mean, I'm just saying so the
- 12:15Speaker 4: best way for you to get me to say no
- 12:17Speaker 4: is to actually put something in my diary so that
- 12:20Speaker 4: I have to say no, and you could put in
- 12:23Speaker 4: family time from this time to that time on a Saturday,
- 12:25Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, we know we can't have
- 12:27Speaker 4: friends over because we've got something in the diary.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Well, in your defense, I love having friends over, but
- 12:32Speaker 2: when we get to Saturday night, I'm so tired.
- 12:35Speaker 4: I really like that though saying no means saying no
- 12:38Speaker 4: to Netflix, or it means saying no to whatever it
- 12:40Speaker 4: is that's not aligned with our priorities, not aligned with
- 12:43Speaker 4: our intention.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Really really great tips and it came from you, missus
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