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Feminists Around the World: Anita DeFrantz · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and Rockoby stuff. I
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  Speaker 1: never told your prediction if I heart radio.
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  Speaker 2: And in honor of the Olympics, in our upcoming Olympics episode, yes,
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  Speaker 2: what's happening now, we are going to talk about the
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  Speaker 2: first woman to be elected as the vice president of
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  Speaker 2: the IOC. Again, this is going to be an upcoming episode,
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  Speaker 2: like really soon, but I thought it'd be interesting to
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  Speaker 2: talk about one specific person. Today is July thirtieth, twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four. You know, we need to put some time
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  Speaker 2: stamps on it because everybody's gonna be like, why didn't
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  Speaker 2: you talk about this person or why didn't you do it?
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  Speaker 2: Talk about this because we didn't know because things are
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  Speaker 2: still happening in ney'all. And yeah, the twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 2: Olympics is underway and there's some record breaking things already happening,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of controversy. You know, cardboard beds, vegan diets,
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  Speaker 2: a rapists that's allowed to compete while other people who
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  Speaker 2: have barely like I don't know, went to meet their
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  Speaker 2: boyfriend out in Paris. She got kicked out, but the
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  Speaker 2: rapists could you know, join But that's a different conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not better anyway. Annie, have you been watching any
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  Speaker 2: of the Olympics. I know you and your friend group
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  Speaker 2: who just went to uh, your traditional summer Vaca, having
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  Speaker 2: your own Olympics typically UH just got back. So I
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  Speaker 2: imagine y'all have been watching or at least been really
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  Speaker 2: excited for the upcoming Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: We have been watching the Olympics, and I this is
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  Speaker 1: not a sponsor at all. I want to make this clear.
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  Speaker 2: We're not Snoop dogg.
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  Speaker 1: Dog. We were were We wanted more Snoop, but we
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get it on because you know, beach houses are
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  Speaker 1: usually little tricky within what signals can get out there
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  Speaker 1: and whatever. I have peacock because of our haunted out
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  Speaker 1: the hard nights we did in Universal. It came with
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  Speaker 1: a free six month peacock trial. And I already had
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  Speaker 1: a free six month peacock trial from the last time
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  Speaker 1: I went, so I have like a year peacock. So
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  Speaker 1: I felt really good because we were able to watch
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  Speaker 1: the Olympics because of my free trial.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I knew that I haven't used that.
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  Speaker 2: Then I need to use this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I sent it to you. I forwarded
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  Speaker 1: it to you because I was like, yes, you probably didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I just like, eh, going to haunted houses? Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, well anyway, it has come in great handy
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  Speaker 1: for watching it. I will say the opening ceremony, we
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  Speaker 1: were shocked. There was a lot of twist and turns.
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  Speaker 1: There was heavy metal bands, there were minions. I was
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  Speaker 1: not expecting a lot of it, which is funny because
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  Speaker 1: right before I was like, oh, usually I feel like
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  Speaker 1: the opening ceremony is very boring, and I left feeling
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  Speaker 1: like I'd gone through an experience. Yes, we did, and
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  Speaker 1: we watched We've watched a lot of the swimming and
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  Speaker 1: gymnastics and diving primarily is what we did. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we had fun. It was a nice like put it
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  Speaker 1: on and we get to like kind of talk to
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  Speaker 1: each other and joke with each other.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, did you have your own competitions?
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  Speaker 1: Uh? We did it the previous time we went, which
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  Speaker 1: was a couple like a month ago. This time we
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  Speaker 1: had like joke ones which were like who can puzzle
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  Speaker 1: the fastest? Because we did do a puzzle, are like nice,
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  Speaker 1: It was much more like silly, who can do this thing?
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  Speaker 1: And we were joking about what it would look like
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  Speaker 1: if we tried to do what they were doing, and
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  Speaker 1: how fun that could be to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I mean they're coming out with new
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  Speaker 2: competitions every year, so you never know. I am still
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  Speaker 2: like excited about the Breaking, which is the break dance,
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  Speaker 2: and there was a couple of conversations of like this,
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  Speaker 2: this is not breaking. Please remember this came out of
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  Speaker 2: like La in New York and it's not Dutch dancing.
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  Speaker 2: I will say I have not seen at all. Please
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  Speaker 2: don't get mad at me. I'm excited to see what
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  Speaker 2: we've apparently, like China just came in real full throttle
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  Speaker 2: as well as Japa's I'm really excited to see that
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  Speaker 2: our own people really cool to see. But yeah, some
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  Speaker 2: of the things that I've been seeing that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: been like quickly turning into a meme or I guess,
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  Speaker 2: I guess because I'm like, what is this? But you know,
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  Speaker 2: we love stuff like this. We love seeing amazing new competitions,
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  Speaker 2: puzzling why not? Why not? I still love that people
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  Speaker 2: are talking about the water polo and the US women's
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  Speaker 2: water polo team and they're like, oh, the level of
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  Speaker 2: athleticism the women's rugby team. Oh yeah, We've seen a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things coming out, so I'm really excited to
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  Speaker 2: talk about it. But today we're talking about one specific
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  Speaker 2: person and we're going to jump in. We're talking the
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  Speaker 2: former Olympian and vice President of the IOC, Anita Defrance.
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  Speaker 2: And Anita Defrance was a part of the American rowing
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  Speaker 2: team and she actually won a bronze medal in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: seventy six, and she made the team again in nineteen eighty. However,
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  Speaker 2: due to the US boycotting of the Games that year,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of stuff with the Cold War
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  Speaker 2: and such, she was unable to compete. However, she was
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  Speaker 2: one of the athletes that received a congressional gold medal,
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  Speaker 2: and it was in nineteen eighty six Defrance was appointed
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  Speaker 2: as a member of the IOC, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: it was only in nineteen eighty one that the IOC
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  Speaker 2: allowed for women to be members at all, and at
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  Speaker 2: that time it was only two women who were appointed.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll talk a little more about that about this
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  Speaker 2: in the upcoming episode that I keep talking about because
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously I'm really really in depth with the
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  Speaker 2: history of the Olympics. You know, we do this every year.
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  Speaker 2: We got to get into the history a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but if you want to do some additional math, which
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  Speaker 2: that's not a part of the Olympics, maybe it should be.
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  Speaker 2: It only took almost a century before the organization appointed
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  Speaker 2: any women as a member of the IOC, which started
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  Speaker 2: in eighteen ninety four, so like only ninety years later.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this was an interesting part of the
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  Speaker 1: opening ceremony as well, because in our book we had
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  Speaker 1: a whole chapter about the Olympics. Yeah, well it was
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  Speaker 1: about athletics, but the Olympics was a big part of it,
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  Speaker 1: and we talked about the history of the women trying
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  Speaker 1: to get in the Olympics and have their own Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: And Cooper Tant who was like this big, like French
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  Speaker 1: guy who's big and like not letting women in, and
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  Speaker 1: they kept bringing him up in the opening ceremony. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, it's that guy. I know about this guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's nobody likes kidding because it's you know, in
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  Speaker 1: Paris this year. Also, there was like a really cool
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  Speaker 1: but creepy horse but yeah, it's like a horror movie.
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  Speaker 2: Was that this whole conversation about because it was supposed to
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  Speaker 2: represent a woman on a horse. Right, yes, like about
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  Speaker 2: what this was, and like the people were either confused
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  Speaker 2: or really like rusted, Like they were like she was amazing,
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  Speaker 2: and the other people were like what is happening? Also
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  Speaker 2: the same thing with like the whole opening scene with
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  Speaker 2: the table and they like, that's the last supper and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it's not, it's the diet. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Never realized it was a wild ride. Every much controversy here, Carlos,
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  Speaker 1: back to Defrance. Here's a bit of information on her
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  Speaker 1: on Women's Girls Initiative quote. Before she joined the ranks
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  Speaker 1: of the IOC, Defrance captain the US women's rowing team
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  Speaker 1: and rode in the eight that won a bronze medal
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  Speaker 1: at the nineteen seventy six Montreal Olympic Games. Defrance served
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  Speaker 1: as vice president of the nineteen eighty four Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: Olympic Organizing commit Anne was elected to IOC membership in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six, making her not only the first African American,
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  Speaker 1: but also the first American woman to serve on the committee.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and unsurprisingly, sports and competing has been a part
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  Speaker 2: of most of her life. She actually started out as
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  Speaker 2: a college basketball student like playing in basketball, but soon
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  Speaker 2: discovered rowing after running into the rowing coach on campus,
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  Speaker 2: and he persuaded her to give it a shot. It
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  Speaker 2: was like, literally, come tomorrow just to see if you
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  Speaker 2: like it, and she was like, okay, and here's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit from the NCAAA dot org. Although she eventually
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  Speaker 2: competed at the highest level, Defrance did not find immediate
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  Speaker 2: success with rowing. During the second semester of her senior year,
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  Speaker 2: she got demoted to the junior varsity team. Her coach, however,
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  Speaker 2: encouraged her, telling her hard work would allow her to
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  Speaker 2: make the Olympic team. Upon graduating from Connecticut College in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four, Defrance pursued law school at Pennsylvania while
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  Speaker 2: training to make the Olympic team with the Vesper Boat Club.
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  Speaker 2: The hard work paid off, as de France made the
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  Speaker 2: national team in nineteen seventy five and competed at the
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  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six Montreal Olympic Games again where she won
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  Speaker 2: a bronze medal. When the United States boycotted the nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty Moscow Olympic Games, de France took a stay in
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  Speaker 2: and advocated for the rights of athletes to make their
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  Speaker 2: own decisions regarding competition. Although her lassit regarding this cause
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  Speaker 2: was unsuccessful, the International Olympic Committee awarded her the Bronze
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  Speaker 2: Medal of the Olympic Order for her inspirational efforts.
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  Speaker 1: And within the NCAA dot org article, they talked about
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  Speaker 1: her works within the IOC and the Olympics. Quote. De
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  Speaker 1: francis advocacy work did not end when her rowing career did.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, her service to the athletic community had just begun.
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  Speaker 1: Over the years, she has remained a committed advocate for
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  Speaker 1: athletes all over the world and has specifically been a
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  Speaker 1: pioneer in the expansion of opportunities for females. De Francis
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  Speaker 1: led by example, as her election to the IOC membership
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six made her the first African American
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  Speaker 1: and first American woman to serve on the committee. When
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  Speaker 1: I arrived at the IOC as a member, I was
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  Speaker 1: the fifth woman elected in a room of about one hundred,
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  Speaker 1: she said, and I thought, this is not the way
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  Speaker 1: the world works. We need to change this. From nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty nine to ninety four, Defrance served on the IOC's
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  Speaker 1: Program Commission, which is responsible for proposing sports to be
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  Speaker 1: included in Olympic competition. She played a key role in
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  Speaker 1: increasing opportunities for women's competition in the Olympic program and
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  Speaker 1: is credited with getting women's softball and soccer accepted to
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  Speaker 1: the program.
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  Speaker 2: Those was some huge like competitions like could you imagine yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know right. The fact that she had to be
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  Speaker 2: a part of that and be like, hey, we got
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  Speaker 2: something here, she did a lot. She did a lot
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  Speaker 2: for the US as well and within LA, especially when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to like getting competitors and opening doors for
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  Speaker 2: more athletes. She's done some amazing things. And doing all this,
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  Speaker 2: she's been a remarkable force within the sporting community and
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  Speaker 2: as in fact, she has served two as IOC vice president.
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  Speaker 2: Her first term was nineteen ninety seven through two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and one, and then her second term went from twenty
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  Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty twenty one. Again, this was she was
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  Speaker 2: the first woman to be appointed vice president so anywhere
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  Speaker 2: on the executive board. And she has earned many awards
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  Speaker 2: and accolades, including the LA Coliseum Court of Honor, the
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  Speaker 2: Olympic Truce Award, and this year she was in Cuba's
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  Speaker 2: President Gerald R. Ford Award winner, and when she received
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  Speaker 2: that award, she said, I want to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: once I've opened doors, there will be people to come
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  Speaker 2: through them and enjoy it afterwards. That has been a
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  Speaker 2: key to how our review things and work towards things,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously she's still working towards that and making sure
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  Speaker 2: that the door is wide open for as many competitors
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  Speaker 2: from all groups being a part of the Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very strange to me looking back on the
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  Speaker 1: Olympics because it feels like such a bookmark of like
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  Speaker 1: every four years usually, but recently that wasn't the case.
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  Speaker 1: But and you look back and I remember us talking
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  Speaker 1: about it then and like how there were still these
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  Speaker 1: issues and still this like Bush and I saw during
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  Speaker 1: the opening ceremony Paris was like gender parody in the Olympics,
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  Speaker 1: and then there were a bunch of news articles that
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  Speaker 1: came out. It's like still not so quite so yet, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as in fact, there's like six countries that
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  Speaker 2: sent no women.
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  Speaker 1: To compete, So it's still it's still very important. It's
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  Speaker 1: still a thing that we're talking about when these happen
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  Speaker 1: and are important, and we do love hearing from you listeners,
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  Speaker 1: especially people who have more experience or knowledge about sports,
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  Speaker 1: specific sports maybe than we do. So please write in
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  Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts, if there's something we should
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  Speaker 1: be talking about, if there's someone we should be talking about.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, we do have an Olympics episode coming up
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  Speaker 1: possibly too. Yeah, so yes, if you would like to
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