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- 0:00Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk two seventy eight. Does this nineteen sixties
- 0:05case study expose modern psychologies flaws? And as soon as I start talking,
- 0:12I love being asthmatic. I'm your host, Hannah Wallen here with nonsense annihilator
- 0:17Lauren Brooks and the personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson, and Tonight we're going to
- 0:22examine an old video of a nineteen sixties case study on an aggressive child and
- 0:28see if you can tell what's missing from the doctor's language. But before we
- 0:34look at what's missing from the doctor's language, I want to point out something
- 0:37else that's missing from the sixties. There were no video games back then that
- 0:43you know, played at home on a regular basis, Like if you had
- 0:46something that had a game on it, it was. There were a few
- 0:51little devices you could get that would have a game, and a lot of
- 0:56them were more mechanical than video oriented. Not everybody even had a TV,
- 1:03so they couldn't even say, uh, everybody watching in horror this is This
- 1:10is definitely not something that you can blame on video games, movies, television
- 1:18cartoons. The kid maybe listen to rock music, but they couldn't blame it
- 1:23on heavy metal, you know, and like you didn't get some little kids
- 1:27listening to heavy metal in the nineteen sixties. It's so ironic that boomers used
- 1:32to tell us to stop watching the TV, and now we're telling boomers to
- 1:36stop watching the TV. Yeah, oh my gosh. Well, and then
- 1:42you know, when they get old, they go to a nursing home and
- 1:45they get plumped in front of the TV by the nurse's ads. I wonder
- 1:47how many of them are like, no, we told our kids, this
- 1:51is bad for your eyes. I'm going blind already, leave me alone.
- 1:53But but yeah, so all of the things that we hear of Pete blaming
- 2:01childhood violence on today, we're not present in this kid's life, or we're
- 2:08not broadly present in a lot of kids lives, one or the other.
- 2:15I think the the comic book thing it already happened where they blamed comic books
- 2:20for juvenile delinquents. But this child is not old enough to read. He's
- 2:24in in preschool, so or I think they call it nursery school back then.
- 2:31So there you go, U nineteen sixties case. And I'm going to
- 2:37get us started into the video unless you guys have anything else. To add
- 2:40before we get started right into it. All right, let's hop right in
- 2:47first first up, it's going to show us the child's behavior. So here
- 2:54we go, all right, YouTube play. Seriously, he's an intelligent child
- 3:08and a very attractive one, but Philip is a problem at school, at
- 3:15home to himself, Philip is an overly aggressive child. What can be done?
- 3:23We can say, oh, this is just a phase he allowed grow
- 3:24it, or we can recognize that he needs help and that something can be
- 3:30done to help him. This is the supervisor of his nursery's school, Miss
- 3:35Steinberg. So the first thing I wanted to point out is if you see,
- 3:39if you look at that, it's it's not exactly different from what you
- 3:46would see with a child today in a preschool setting, where the teachers would
- 3:51say, hey, this is an abnormally violent child. Right, It's clearly
- 3:54a kid that's not getting along with his peers, and it's worth by out.
- 4:00Though. I know the first thing you heard was he's an attractive child,
- 4:02and I know I know that raises some red flags, but it was
- 4:06only this many generations ago, that attractive didn't mean sexually attractive. Yeah,
- 4:13it just as as attractive as an object like a statuette or an ornament would
- 4:16be attractive. Yeah, it's just everything's a fucking innuendo. These days,
- 4:21that's degenerous. He's slipping into everything. The thing is that the psychiatrist would
- 4:28have commented on that back in the day, simply because it would be expected
- 4:31that the other kids would respond favorably to him, because he looked just like
- 4:34one of them. He's a perfectly attractive child. He didn't look different.
- 4:39And today you wouldn't be able to describe him that way because people would that
- 4:43would sounds us, you know. But but yeah, so this is this
- 4:47is a kid that's described as a normal kid with a behavior problem who needs
- 4:51help. What's the first thing that we hear from from these kinds of doctors
- 5:00and psychologists aren't necessarily I don't think they necessarily have doctor behind their name,
- 5:06but therapists and stuff when they when we hear about a child behaving violently,
- 5:14the first thing we hear is what toxic masculinity? Right? We start hearing
- 5:18about chemical imbalances, and we start hearing about hyperactivity and senses of entitlement.
- 5:27But this guy's talking about, well, this kid might just need some help,
- 5:33So we hear from the teacher, there's I think there's gonna be delay
- 5:41every time here, really try to choke a little boy because this little boy
- 5:51wanted to play with a little girl that he wanted, he was particularly interested
- 5:57in. He's inclined to me, and I wanted to point that out too.
- 6:02We are hearing about incidents of little boys in kindergarten in first grade getting
- 6:12suspended from school for kissing a little girl. As if never before modern society
- 6:20have little boys been attracted to little girls, or little boys focused on little
- 6:25girls and wanted to play, you know, exclusively with that girl and not
- 6:30have other little boys play with that girl. But this is not an abnormal
- 6:33thing. It's not an unusual thing, and it's not it's hetro normativity and
- 6:41it needs to stop, right and so so he's he's jealous of this,
- 6:48he wants this little girl's attention. Poor kid checked any authority or a limit
- 7:04set for him by the teacher, and it became so bad, even to
- 7:12the extent of hitting that she smoking. We had to asked the mother to
- 7:15come in to see us, and we recommended that she goes to the children's
- 7:23hospital for hell. This is doctor Hyman Kaplin, Your mommy is worried because
- 7:30you used to do so much fighting at school, and she liked to know.
- 7:33It's not pausing for me, don't it. There we go, sorry
- 7:40about that. Everything is slowed down on my computer for some reason. I
- 7:46just restarted it like right before the show. But I just wanted to point
- 7:49out again noticed that the teacher didn't act condemning. And yes she was smoking.
- 7:58That's something that's changed in a general also. I mean, if they're
- 8:01filming it, if they're filming it in a stuff room, teach us smoking
- 8:05stuff rooms all the time. Well not anymore, they can't, not no,
- 8:13but it was. It was only fifteen years ago when they were still
- 8:18allowed to. So they still did. And you can imagine why because it's
- 8:22quite a stressful job. It is. It is. Yeah, but I
- 8:26would also remind everybody, like gen xers, we grew up watching cartoons where
- 8:31cartoon characters would get executed at gunpoint and they would have a last cigarette before
- 8:39they were shot, so just so you know, and boomer kids did too,
- 8:43so this this kid being a sixties kid would sort of have been pre
- 8:50gen X, especially if this is early sixties. But but yeah, we
- 8:58and our parents. The television experiences we had were very different from those of
- 9:03our children, where they edited out all that stuff and maybe put in a
- 9:07candy bar, which is not really that much better, and completely eliminated executions
- 9:16at gunpoint so that you don't think about that stuff as a kid. I'm
- 9:28going to take this back a couple of seconds, so we get the introduction
- 9:31to the doctor again. But your mommy is worried because you used to do
- 9:41so much fighting at school, and she'd like to know how we could teach
- 9:45you not to fight so much. Do you have any idea? Nope,
- 9:54would you like to learn I don't want to fight? Need me spoon tie?
- 10:01Like? Well, you think about this. You know, in a
- 10:07lot of in a lot of cases, they don't even tell the kid what
- 10:11they're being evaluated for today. And you know, he just straight up told
- 10:16him, your mommy is worried. This is the problem. Notice by the
- 10:20way that he's not just talking to the kid across the desk. The kid
- 10:26has a bunch of toys and he's playing with them like that was the norm.
- 10:31Yeah, yeah, but it's I think it's just if you contrast this
- 10:41with the way kids act today, it's so completely different. I think this
- 10:46kid just he wants a thing he wants he doesn't really know how to get
- 10:54it, and I think is he acts out in frustration over that. This
- 11:00is not what these kids are doing today. They are hitting teachers, throwing
- 11:05chairs. Okay, I mean it's completely our control. You know, the
- 11:13aggression is all towards the authority figure instead of trying to achieve or attain something
- 11:20and just going through the emotions of the frustration of not not understanding how to
- 11:26get it. Yeah. And in a lot of instances, what we see
- 11:33today is instead of looking for the causes behind a child's behavioral issues, we
- 11:43see psychiatry looking for ways to blame the child or blame normalcy in society as
- 11:54the cause. Instead of, you know, this child has a need that's
- 11:58not being met. It's well, this child has been exposed to too much
- 12:03normalcy. We have to shake him out of that. Or this child is
- 12:07too masculine, we have to make him not masculine. I mean, they'd
- 12:11be transition transitioning this kid next week. You know, if if this was,
- 12:18if this was any other it's just sad. If this was if this
- 12:24was a modern psychiatrist. Before we go on, we have a relevant super
- 12:30chat from Albert Nada retro, who says someone should tell this kid the best
- 12:33way to get a girl's attention is to be polite, but otherwise ignore her.
- 12:37Fred Flintstone smoked for recreation. I remember that they had smoke breaks and
- 12:41oh my gosh, and Flintstone did a beer commercial where he and Barney were
- 12:48bartenders. They did an actual beer commercial. But if they had they had
- 12:56cigarette commercials as well. Yeah, yeah, they did tread and Bunny would
- 13:00just puff it away, going you need to, but I can't remember what
- 13:03the brand was, so it would kind of mean that good an advert.
- 13:05But yeah, even even cartoon characters were like, we smoke and you should
- 13:09smoke too. Yep, And it's amazing, how how how it's amazing how
- 13:15few boomers have died from smoking. Says then, well, what's funny is
- 13:20when boomers were little kids in in up, I think clear up into the
- 13:26fifties, they had doctors recommending what brand of cigarettes they thought we were the
- 13:33best. So oh and we we got a rumble comment on the on the
- 13:43on the problem glasses. I see if I can remember how to pronounce this
- 13:50awaken Wowie, I don't know. I'm not I'm not going to try.
- 13:54I sorry. It's as bad as my handle on on Twitter A narrow script
- 14:01which I looked up the pronunciation for the Greek deity and there's not a solid
- 14:07This is absolutely the way it gets pronounced. So you really if you pronounce
- 14:11it wrong, I can't even criticize you for it. But yeah, lmao.
- 14:18Problem glasses. Yeah, back in the day when when they didn't have
- 14:24like the super thin glass and you had to have they didn't have the super
- 14:28tough frames that were bendy and everything. If you were in a position where
- 14:31your frames might get damaged because of you know, somebody punching you in the
- 14:37face, like if you were a psychiatrist, or if you worked in a
- 14:39field where you were your glasses were at risked for other reasons. You had
- 14:46what the soldiers in the military when they had to get glasses would would refer
- 14:50to as BC glasses or birth control glasses because ain't nobody gonna fuck you if
- 14:54you got those on so and and then that was a real thing. You
- 15:05can't even fall asleep wearing those kind of glasses because you'll wake up with broken
- 15:09broken glasses, yeah, or broken nose. Seriously, they were heavy.
- 15:15My glasses, My first glasses were heavy, and I mean I was ten
- 15:18years old when I got those things. So yeah, now that was That
- 15:24was in the eighties, in nineteen eighty two. Not British Columbia glasses,
- 15:30I will assure you it was definitely not British Columbia. And uh and then
- 15:35Meredith g gave us a super chow uh the five for five dollars. It
- 15:41says, uh, HBr talk to seventy eight honey for the Badgers. It
- 15:45seems to me that psychology today has moved away from proper socialization of a child,
- 15:48and that is true as well. In fact, proper socialization of a
- 15:54child is being blamed. It was. It was one of the it was
- 15:56one of the first industries or areas to be subject to the long and slow
- 16:03walk through the institutions. That's a certain idea that feminism has done. Yeah,
- 16:10Like at first they took over psychology, then they took over universities in
- 16:15general, and then they took over schools in general, and from there it's
- 16:18just been a cake walk to everything else. Because once you have the child,
- 16:23you have the man, as our assault used to say, yep,
- 16:26yep. As soon as you as soon as you're able to control the child,
- 16:33you have control over who he becomes, and that that takes away any
- 16:37chance that the child has really resisting until he's older and able to judge for
- 16:44himself. And even then, you know, it imposes a fear that he
- 16:47wouldn't necessarily have if he was raised in a better environment. So let's see
- 16:52how our good doctor here discusses this with the kid. Remember this, this
- 17:00kid had the chad No, I don't, I don't. I don't want
- 17:03to stop, like we're gonna go over that again. Nope, Nope,
- 17:08what to learn? I don't want to fight? What do you think fighting
- 17:12is the best way to do things? Yeah? M you don't feel you
- 17:18know any other way? Nope, this is but I smother to stop.
- 17:26I have to respect authority from a teacher, from a maren. I feel
- 17:30there we go. We'll go back a little bit here. So he he
- 17:33just pointed out he doesn't know any other way but fighting. So before we
- 17:37go on and hear what she has to say, I just want to point
- 17:41out when a kid develops that outlook, it indicates some things because like the
- 17:53kids I grew up with, we were largely unsupervised most of the day.
- 17:59After a certain age, right, we'd go to the park down the street
- 18:02from the house, and supervision was a hundred yards away from us. And
- 18:11if we got into a fight, if somebody wasn't bleeding, the adults did
- 18:15not stop the fight. Right. We figured out on our own that negotiation
- 18:21is much more pleasant than getting into a fight, and like we figured that
- 18:25out from beating each other up, deciding we didn't like beating each other up
- 18:30and getting beaten up, and learning to make agreements with each other on what
- 18:34we were going to do instead. And even while he's saying I don't know
- 18:41anything other than fighting, he's playing with that I don't know what that object
- 18:45is. I presume it's some kind of type. But you'll notice he's not
- 18:48fighting with that object. He's not smashing against smashing it against the tabletop like
- 18:53some kind of chip. So it's fighting. Isn't everything he does? Sometimes
- 18:57he plays, but I guess he plays with toys. But when it comes
- 19:02to children, yeah, I guess maybe he doesn't know anything other than fighting,
- 19:06which makes sense because kids are assholes. And if you if you imprison
- 19:11a child, and it is imprisonment because they're not allowed to leave. If
- 19:15you imprisoned a child in a building with hundreds of other children, of course
- 19:21it's going to fuck them up because children are assholes. Don't lock children in
- 19:26effectively a prison with other children when they've done nothing wrong, because of course
- 19:30they're going to fight them, because children are assholes that they are, and
- 19:36they have to learn not to be assholes by encountering other assholes. So let's
- 19:41go on to what is said next year with the other way. No,
- 19:47this is Philip's mother. He's terribly disobedient. A child has to know and
- 19:51have to respect authority from a teacher, from a mare. And I feel
- 19:55some along the line I failed. He's a child that has really everything a
- 20:00child would would wand and he's it's really quite this heart thing. There's something
- 20:07that is just makes fun feel lack of failure. Doctors will spend time with
- 20:11Philip, then with Philip's mother. It's more useful if so here's a mom
- 20:18doing something that you don't see very many women do today. Do what did
- 20:26she say? I failed? Like in one generation we've gone from women being
- 20:36able to admit I did something wrong and my child is lacking because of it.
- 20:44Two, you can't criticize women or it's misogyny. How misogynistic. This
- 20:49woman would be accused of having internalized misogyny. So the psychiatrist would be looking
- 20:53at this kid going, well, obviously this mother's internalized misogyny is affecting this
- 20:59child. Well, I see something missing. I'm sure, I'm sure everybody
- 21:07else. Yeah, there's something that's missing here. He probably does have a
- 21:12dad, but he's at work. You know this is that's something else dad
- 21:17doesn't. Dad doesn't usually go to the doctor's appointments with the kids, and
- 21:19at that at that time, he's usually at work. So I will say,
- 21:26if I remember right, because I've seen this video before. Later in
- 21:29the video you do hear the dad discussed. But h and my mom is
- 21:36the one that took my brother and meet all our doctor's appointments. And I
- 21:40will admit that in terms of me, there were a shitload of doctor's appointments,
- 21:45Like I might as well have just set up camp at the doctor's office
- 21:48some years because I was there as much as I was at home. So
- 21:53Dad wouldn't have been able to do that because he had four jobs at that
- 22:00point he was he was a teacher, He was a yearbook advisor, and
- 22:07a photo club advisor though so he was a club advisor and after school club
- 22:11advisor. He had a wedding photography business that he was running, and he
- 22:15did photography for the local newspaper, and that was that was. All three
- 22:22of those things were related, and he probably thought of them all as one
- 22:26job, but they were all different sets of hours that he kept doing different
- 22:33things for different purposes. And the after school stuff was not necessarily required of
- 22:41all all of the teachers. A lot of the teachers taught until you know,
- 22:45three oh five, and then they went home. So so there you
- 22:49go. Yes, the dad is absent in the video. No, that
- 22:53doesn't mean the dad is absent in this home. But let's go on and
- 22:57see here both parents come, since both are a part of the problem.
- 23:07But even if only one will come, this can be altered the home situation
- 23:11which contributes to Philip's problem. Play therapy enables the doctor to enlist and probe
- 23:17the child's feelings, his feelings about his home, his parents, and how
- 23:22he deals with the world about him. There's nothing magical about it and nothing
- 23:26that is threatening to the home. If the pussycap went to school and made
- 23:32trouble for the teachers, you'd whip the pussycat. Yeah, and what don't
- 23:38help the pussycap learn how to do better at school? Yes, they'll remember
- 23:44it, they'll remember it after that school. I get that doesn't make a
- 23:52lot of sense to me, because you've had whippings and you've had punishments,
- 23:57and has that helped to learn to enjoy school a lot better? No,
- 24:04whem wham doesn't always help. I don't have a whip in my hands.
- 24:08Is that what you were looking for? I just did, so you sort
- 24:17of get to a notion. This is something that was a changing thing in
- 24:22the nineteen sixties, in the nineteen seventies, where prior to the sixties it
- 24:29was pretty standard. Corporal punishment was a pretty standard thing across at least across
- 24:33the United States, and I think historically it's been a pretty standard thing.
- 24:38Corporal punishment was expected to change behavior all the time, regardless of what the
- 24:45behavior was, and it was it was essentially, if the behavior is severe,
- 24:52then the punishment must be physical. And somewhere in the sixties and seventies,
- 24:59Psycho Tristan. Psychologists began to figure out that there were other methods of
- 25:06discipline that worked better for some kids, and then they began to like buy
- 25:11the eighties, they were starting to figure out that actually, corporal punishment isn't
- 25:15effective with most kids. Like there's there's very few instances where you know,
- 25:22you might slap a kid's hand if the kid is persistently trying to stick a
- 25:27fork in the electrical socket and isn't old enough yet to understand the explanation,
- 25:32that's going to bite you and it's gonna hurt really bad, and that'll the
- 25:37kid will have a consequence, and they'll avoid that consequence. But that kind
- 25:41of avoidance once they start getting older, that that doesn't it doesn't suffice for
- 25:48for a lot of kids, and especially like the more intelligent the kid is,
- 25:52the more they want an explanation, and the more they want to understand
- 25:56what you want from them and why and what the problem is with what they
- 26:03want before they will settle down and be like, okay, well I'll agree
- 26:07to do what mom and dad want me to do. And then they'll also
- 26:11try to negotiate and bargain and it's not necessarily bad, depending on what you're
- 26:17negotiating and bargaining about. Can I stay up half an hour late tonight?
- 26:21Well, do you have all your homework done? All right? You gotta
- 26:25promise me you're not going to give me a hard time getting you up in
- 26:26the morning. You can watch the television special tonight, you know, things
- 26:30like that. But back in the day, it used to be a very
- 26:34strict thing. And I think what we're seeing here partly is old school parenting
- 26:42meets This kid seems to be pretty smart in that, you know, he
- 26:48understands he's responding to an adult speaking to him like he's a kid today.
- 26:56That an adult speaking to a kid like that, you'd expect that kid to
- 27:00be elementary school age. But I think that kid is like maybe four or
- 27:03five years old and will not have started elementary school yet. He's in he's
- 27:10in a not preschool but nursery school. So he seems to be a little
- 27:18smarter. And it may be that you know that that corporal punishment is particularly
- 27:25useless on him. I will admit that when I was a kid, it
- 27:30was it was pretty useless on me too, right, Like my parents had
- 27:33to in order to get me to understand why something was bad. They had
- 27:41to explain the consequences to me, and it was worse for me internally if
- 27:48I realized that consequences fell on somebody else instead of on me. Well,
- 27:52if you do this, your brother's gonna get hurt. And here's how it's
- 27:56going to happen. Like you at this this dog free that likes you but
- 28:03hates everybody else in the neighborhood. Because the neighbor's dog did like me and
- 28:07hate everybody else in the neighborhood. That then your brother's gonna get bit and
- 28:11it's it's not your dog. And if the dog gets hit by a car,
- 28:15your neighbor is going to be sad and cry. And so I stopped
- 28:19interfering with the neighbor's dog. But but yeah, so this this kid talking
- 28:27about the corporal punishment thing. That's that was actually a very controversial and new
- 28:34kind of idea in the sixties that I can sort of get close to you
- 28:48with and love you, you love me and be friendly to you. I
- 28:55love you because I'm a doctor that's trying to help you, and I'm trying
- 28:59to help you. But did you see the look on the kid's face didn't
- 29:03like it's never been told it before. Yeah, and and this is another
- 29:10thing, like none of the adults in a child's life that are not the
- 29:14child's parents can say that today. Maybe aunts and uncles like now, and
- 29:18I tell all my grandson all the time, and I love him, but
- 29:23I don't. I don't think that I've ever told any of my friends kids
- 29:30that I love them, like I would run into a burning building to get
- 29:33them out, you know, even now, although one of them's a Marines
- 29:37so probably he wouldn't need me to do that, but i'd still, you
- 29:42know, it would it would wreck me to to lose one of those kids.
- 29:48But I don't think I've ever said I love you to any of them,
- 29:51because now it's inappropriate. People look at us weird. My I like
- 29:59I my my friend group will say that we'll say goodbye to each other on
- 30:03you know, on the phone or in public and hug and everything and say
- 30:07love you guys, we'll see you later. And they look at us like,
- 30:08are you guys having some sort of a relationship. It's like, yes,
- 30:11it's called being really good friends. But you know, we're people that
- 30:18have been there for each other through thick and thin, right, and when
- 30:22I explain love to people, you know, I go, I go,
- 30:27I get biblical on everybody, And I like, well, how how is
- 30:30it demonstrated in you know, the the guidebook that a lot of Americans are
- 30:37raised with. This is how you're supposed to live, right. Love is
- 30:40demonstrated through personal sacrifice, through showing that you value and trust and are I
- 30:49have a sense of dedication to the welfare of the other person, you know,
- 30:55and and it can be everything from you work harder to make sure that
- 31:00person has what they need to. You take time away from things you were
- 31:06planning on doing to assist somebody with something that they need help with, or
- 31:11to commiserate with somebody who's been through something rough, driving you know, one
- 31:18hundred and fifty miles to sit with a friend because they've had something bad happen
- 31:25and you know, you just need to be there with them. That's that's
- 31:29a show of love. And becoming becoming a doctor to treat people for for
- 31:37illness and help them be better, help them recover and stuff. That's a
- 31:42show of love for humanity. And so it's not wrong for the doctor to
- 31:48say, of course I love you. I'm I became a doctor to help
- 31:51you get better. But today people are reticent to use that kind of language.
- 31:57They don't they don't talk about that anymore. There's probably the kind of
- 32:02legal ramification, you know, or maybe not legal, but professionally, you
- 32:07know, you don't want to give the child some sense of you know,
- 32:12I don't know an authority figure when you're in the role of a therapist,
- 32:17you know, So I could see somebody having come in and shut down on
- 32:22the way that a therapist would interact with a child and what they can and
- 32:27can't say. But man, the way this little boy's face just lit up
- 32:35when he said that, it was like, God, that's heart wrenching.
- 32:42It is almost like it was the first time anyone had ever said it to
- 32:45him. Yeah, you know, but but clearly it's not a message that
- 32:50is being given to him by people from who he would value that love and
- 33:00affection and acceptance from. Yeah, it really makes you makes you wonder,
- 33:07what's what the household dynamic really is like, because of course they're going to
- 33:12say whatever they're gonna say. They know there's cameras rolling, you know,
- 33:15that dynamic hasn't changed at all. But yeah, yeah, at the same
- 33:22time, at the same time, this doesn't mean that teachers can go ahead
- 33:24and say that love is love with regard to with regard to absolutely everything.
- 33:32You know what I'm getting at. It's possible to take it too far in
- 33:36the other direction. Yeah. Everything elimination of platonic love has gone has had
- 33:43all kinds of effects, and that's one of them. I don't know if
- 33:50that makes sense as part of what you were saying. Yeah, it's possible
- 33:52to love a child without wanting to fuck them. That's I just we need
- 33:57to find this middle ground again, this platonic love thing. Yeah. Yeah,
- 34:02that's that's the probably the deepest wound that has been dealt upon modern society
- 34:10by not not people being gay, because that that doesn't do any damage at
- 34:19all, but by people trying to eliminate normalcy in the name of being gay,
- 34:27which is not it's not necessary, and it's not for the benefit of
- 34:34people who are LGB all of the other letters of the alphabet. It's for
- 34:39the benefit of people who are communist right and and unfortunately it was very easy
- 34:45for them to take over the civil rights movement for people of alternative sexualities whatever
- 34:52you want to call it. It's created a situation where now people either have
- 34:59to become communist or homophobic, and that's bullshit, right, And and it
- 35:05has created a situation where, uh, there is no more platonic love.
- 35:09If you love somebody, you must want to fuck them. Well, no,
- 35:12that's not true. I love lots of people that I don't want to
- 35:14fuck, right, Uh, like, that's most of the people I love.
- 35:19Almost all of the people I love are are people that I don't have
- 35:23any sexual interest in whatsoever. So so there you go. But uh but
- 35:30yeah, outside of your family, you're not supposed to have that kind of
- 35:32love anymore. And it's it's really deadly. It's it's causing people to not
- 35:40be able to relate to each other. And I like Derek Workman's U LGBT
- 35:49kiss my ass group. So I'm gonna I'm gonna add when TV Dinner,
- 35:58TV Dinner master chef gave us five dollars said female preferential treatment. You interfered
- 36:01with a neighbor's dog and got scholl that I interfered with my neighbor's dog and
- 36:05got put on a register. And uh, Marin Roberic says, defined interfered.
- 36:14And that's a good question because what I did was I the neighbor's dog
- 36:16was on a leash out in the backyard, and I let the dog loose
- 36:22so that it could come in my yard and I could pet it. Reached
- 36:27over the fence because I was a tall kid, and let the just unhooked
- 36:31it, and the dog jumped over the fence and came over and played with
- 36:34me, and and then you know, ran off when it was done and
- 36:38didn't go back into its yard. So of course I got into trouble,
- 36:43so I didn't I didn't get put on a register for that. The neighbor
- 36:46came to my parents and said, let's let you know, we gotta do
- 36:51something about this. You can't keep letting the dog loose. The dog doesn't
- 36:52know any better than to go out into traffic, and we're getting more traffic
- 36:57on this street, so that's really dangerous. And I'm not going to be
- 37:00liable if my dog bites your son after your daughter let it loose. And
- 37:05my parents thought that was fair, so there we go. They had a
- 37:08talk with me about it. Meredith g gave us five dollars and said,
- 37:15oh no, wait, I already did that one. Oh I see why
- 37:17MC in two because there's not a done after the one. I don't know
- 37:22if we did this one or not. This was from HBr News two forty
- 37:25three. Meredith g gave us five dollars and said, well, being falsely
- 37:30accusedes one motivation to turn against feminism. But people can be very stupid about
- 37:35this stuff. Did you know the TV program that is going after brand was
- 37:37responsible for the regime change in Iran and Ethiopia that has contributed to millions of
- 37:43deaths. No one should be surprised about this hit piece. So if you
- 37:46want to know what that one's about, and you haven't seen this week's HBr
- 37:52News, now you have to go back and watch it. But in any
- 37:58case, going on with the video and the kid's face when he said that
- 38:01just killed me because I, you know, when my son was little,
- 38:07like I'm not necessarily an incredibly demonstrative person, but I knew that my kids
- 38:14would need that. I had, you know, my my two step daughters
- 38:17and my son, and so thinking it just wasn't enough. So I had
- 38:22to let them know. I had to speak how I was feeling and when
- 38:27I was proud of them, I had to say so and give hugs and
- 38:30things like that, so they knew this is how, this is what,
- 38:34what's what's going through mommy's head. And it became more natural for me over
- 38:38time. But when I first became a parent, it was like I would
- 38:44play with them like a little kid plays with other little kids, and and
- 38:49they loved that. But and I would cuddle and they loved that. But
- 38:55actually saying you know, you did a good job. I'm proud of you.
- 38:58I had to work at that, you know, just because I was
- 39:00thinking it didn't mean they knew right. And I wonder about this mom because
- 39:07of some of the things that come out later in this video, So there's
- 39:09a little foreshadowing there. But I I was recently my doctors looking into and
- 39:16is it really high functioning classic autism with me or Aspergers or something else right
- 39:25now? So it's it's one of those the parent can affect the kid.
- 39:32And I think part of the reason that my kids grew up being putting effort
- 39:37into understanding other people is because I put a lot of effort into teaching them
- 39:44that and being that for them. So oh and albertade A Restro gives us
- 39:52five Canadian dollars and says Lord Michael of the house of random to come driving
- 39:55home. The point with a sledge hamit the point out, don't hit kids
- 40:00with sledge hammers. A toffee hammer is fine. This this is a joke.
- 40:07This is not medical advice. I'm not railed off. I don't know
- 40:09what an actual toffee hammer is, but I when I hear toffee hammer,
- 40:14I think of the candy and that kind of ye is there are another kind
- 40:19of toffee hammer. It's a tiny little okay, no, I mean like
- 40:23a little hammer made out of toffee, Like, oh yeah, well that
- 40:29that works too. They might enjoy that, yeah, Dan, Yeah,
- 40:34yeah, actually yeah, well, I mean we used to beat each other
- 40:37with sticks when I was a kid for fun. We we've got those those
- 40:40dal rods that you could get at the hobby store because they were really cheap,
- 40:44and then we'd wrap them up in towels all except the handle towels and
- 40:49big heavy rubber bands and just wail on each other with them because it would
- 40:53It would hurt a little bit, but you didn't get a bruise from that.
- 40:55You didn't injure each other with it. It was just like you didn't
- 40:59hit hard enough to injure. And that was sword fighting. And you know,
- 41:04we had plastic swords too, but the plastic swords would break, so
- 41:08we liked the dal Rods. Plain Dane gave us five dollars and said,
- 41:14when I was a kid, I threw a chair slash desk. The reason
- 41:15for throwing the chair was that I had completed my work ahead of schedule,
- 41:20and she told me that she didn't want the other kids to feel left behind.
- 41:22Consequently, she refused to give me any additional extra credit work. This
- 41:27infuriated me because I despised being held back because of others. My uncle was
- 41:31on my side. He said, fuck that, COMI bullshit. I felt
- 41:36validated and still do. I was suspended for fight. You were right too,
- 41:39by the way, I was suspended for five days, but it made
- 41:42little to no difference because I caught up within two days. I'm the only
- 41:45one that did any work. Fuck public schools. Homeschool your kids. So
- 41:50I will tell you I had some similar experiences, although I didn't throw things
- 41:55because my teachers were very lucky. In one element, I don't get bored.
- 42:01It's I get I get caught up in stuff and stop paying attention to
- 42:09what's going on around me. But plain day and your uncle sounds like my
- 42:14dad. My dad would not have tolerated that for a minute. I wouldn't
- 42:16have been suspended because my dad would have gone in and raised Holy hell at
- 42:21at the school for punishing me for doing good work. And you know I
- 42:27would have been by the end of it. Either the teacher would have had
- 42:30extra work for me to do, or I would have been allowed to sit
- 42:32and read if I had had had that issue. And that happened with my
- 42:37brother in a different way. He had a teacher who had a rule that
- 42:44if you didn't finish your the your in class work in time, you had
- 42:50to stay in at recess and finish it, which was actually against school board
- 42:54policy at that time because back then they recognized and this is this is document,
- 43:00kids need playtime in between study time in order to essentially release their wiggles.
- 43:07Kids' brains will they'll stop focusing on schoolwork if they do not get some
- 43:15time to actually just go have some physical activity and do some things that are
- 43:21fun that an adult isn't directing. You have to do this this way,
- 43:24so it's not like gym class with square dancing and all that stuff. So
- 43:29they have to have recess in elementary school. And my brother is a very
- 43:36meticulous like our our family is peppered with engineers, and my brother's not an
- 43:42engineer. He's he's an artist. He's a photographer and a musician, but
- 43:47he's still very meticulous and everything that he does. So he would do his
- 43:54work very meticulously and then he would check it over very meticulous as before he
- 44:00handed it in. And as a result, the other kids were rushing through
- 44:04their work, they were handing in mistakes, they were not getting one hundred
- 44:07percent on everything they did. He was staying in at all three recesses to
- 44:12get all of his work done in getting one hundred percent on everything he did.
- 44:16And when my parents found out, they were livid, and my dad
- 44:22went in with the school board policy, the pages of the school board policy
- 44:28that said you cannot keep a kid in at recess and showed it to the
- 44:35teacher and said, you can't, you can't do this. This is not
- 44:37allowed. And the reason is, you know the explanation I just gave.
- 44:42And he said, what is it that you're trying to teach the students?
- 44:45He went over this, You know, are the other kids handing in perfect
- 44:47work that are getting done before him will know and he's getting perfect work done,
- 44:52but he's getting punished for it. Well, yes, what are you
- 44:55trying to teach him? Yeah? Are you trying to teach him to rush
- 45:00through his work and do an imperfect job in order to get a reward.
- 45:04And and it had never occurred to her like she wasn't doing it to be
- 45:07mean, this was just a method that she had been taught by another teacher
- 45:10and and you know, I'll do this, it works, and that was
- 45:15that was it. And a lot of the teachers were doing that with with
- 45:20the students. So uh, it's there's a lot of that kind of behavior,
- 45:25and especially with female teachers, they don't consider what they're teaching the kid
- 45:31when they punish excellence and reward like a failure to do due diligence, or
- 45:42when they punish like being smarter than the other kids, and and try to
- 45:46guilt trip you for for being ahead of the other kids. Let's see it
- 45:57kind of it's not really the kind of education system that we were looking for.
- 46:01Yeah, no, this is definitely not the kind of education system that
- 46:04we were looking for. And and and it's it's just crazy and Zapier,
- 46:09thank you for the fifty dollars. If there was something that you had intended
- 46:13to say, it did not come through, so you'll have to have to
- 46:16let us know. Uh. But but yeah, and Reggie got it right
- 46:22away that had excellence is bad and stop being intelligent. That's what she taught.
- 46:25And as soon as as soon as my dad got that across to her,
- 46:29she changed everything that she was doing with regard to that. She went
- 46:32through and a whole bunch of the kid's day changed because of that. This
- 46:38this wasn't a bad teacher, she just hadn't thought that through very well.
- 46:42And you know, back then this was this would have been again like nineteen
- 46:47eighty maybe nineteen eighty two, somewhere in there, you could still ask a
- 46:54woman to think through her logic on some on it choice that she made and
- 47:00not get misogyny. How dare you suggest a woman's choice not be perfect?
- 47:06I was just gonna say that if you could still back in those days,
- 47:12you could still tell a woman she was wrong and not get read to riot
- 47:15act by everybody around you. You know. Yeah, And as a result,
- 47:22by the end of the year, she was my brother's favorite teacher.
- 47:24So she's like, oh, she's the best teacher, and he was sad
- 47:29to go on to the next next year because he would have a different teacher.
- 47:36But let's get back to this little boy. If I can get the
- 47:43stupid thing to play. There we go trying to find out how I can
- 47:52help you enjoy your school without fighting all the etiquettes so much, because there
- 47:57must be a good reason why you've fight all the way. On the one
- 48:00hand, you say he's going to everything he wants, and then you say,
- 48:04somehow I feel he's missing something, And more than that, you say
- 48:07you feel you're the one that's making this missing occur. Well, he's missing
- 48:15obviously, child companionship. I mean obviously without the lack of other children,
- 48:19it's not a wonderfully happy home. He's such a difficult child anyway to handle.
- 48:25But I just couldn't take another. I want another child? Who do
- 48:30you think? So? Right there, he's a only kid. Now,
- 48:37I will point out, lots of kids grow up as only children and never
- 48:40become violent or badly behaved like they're they grow up. There were a lot
- 48:46of only kids in the neighborhood I grew up in, and you know,
- 48:52they would go to the park and play with the other kids. So they
- 48:54were only kids at home, but they still had compared inship with other kids.
- 49:01So I don't know's it's so crazy because I was just thinking about this,
- 49:07displaying how like different people's situations, Like, you know, growing up
- 49:14with siblings is a completely different experience than growing up as an only child.
- 49:19And I think some kids that I think this little boy would have benefited from
- 49:23having a maybe younger or older sibling, someone who he could look after,
- 49:30you know, and someone who if there was a bully in school beating him
- 49:35up, maybe he would understand that that constantly fighting is maybe not a good
- 49:38thing because look, my little brother got hurt, you know. Or I
- 49:43don't know, maybe he would have fought the other kids, but at least
- 49:46it would have I think maybe would have taught him a little differently. It
- 49:54would have taught him how to associate violence in a different way. I think
- 50:00having a little sister certainly teaches little boys that because the prevailing narrative is that
- 50:07you don't hear girls, and this is drilled into everyone from a very early
- 50:12age. Having a little brother, I'm not so sure the prevailing narrative among
- 50:17little brothers is beat the shit out of them, nobody cares and whether you
- 50:23whether you're a boy or a girl, kind of especially if you're a girl
- 50:27actually because because this guy in of centrism has as again been built into people
- 50:32for not just decades, but centuries. So if you're if you're a girl
- 50:37and you have a little brother, what's stopping you beating the shit out of
- 50:40them? Nothing? They're boys, after all, patriarchy something something. But
- 50:45even if you're a boy and you've got a little brother, I mean,
- 50:50it's kind of fifty fifty that maybe you'll learn to protect them or you'll just
- 50:54learn to see them as a punching bag. But yeah, you can't.
- 50:58You can't decide what gender child you have. So there's there's no advice that
- 51:01works for this other than don't don't teach children that you should never hit girls.
- 51:07But as for boys, blank, no advice. My parents were different
- 51:13about that. My brother and I were pretty much taught it's you guys against
- 51:19the world. You have each other, You'll always have each other and and
- 51:23nobody else outside of each other is to be trusted totally, you know,
- 51:30until you find somebody to marry and uh, and then you know you have
- 51:35each other to help you figure out if you've made a good choice. And
- 51:39that that's one that I know a lot of siblings are not getting. And
- 51:45you know, even if I hadn't had that, I will tell you this.
- 51:49If picture in your head, all right, little little Elliott from ET
- 51:55right now, and then make him kind of chibby Elliott, like a little
- 52:01precious moments version of Elliott from ET. All right, then make his feelings
- 52:07hurt and a sad look on his face, and imagine being mean to that,
- 52:15like you can't, you just can't. Right, That was my little
- 52:19brother. He was the cutest, sweetest faced little boy. Like you know,
- 52:24I could, I could yell at him if I wasn't looking at him,
- 52:30but if if he had so much as one tear in his eye,
- 52:36I just felt like the worst most evil how dare you pawn scum of a
- 52:44person? Because how could you? How could you be mean to that face?
- 52:49Right? And it's just little blue eyed kid with freckles over his cheeks,
- 52:52in his nose, and there's there's just no it was never gonna be
- 52:59a thing like and he would pick on me the way little siblings pick on
- 53:02their older siblings. You know, you you you do the repeat your sibling
- 53:07everything they say thing, And since I was older, I could, I
- 53:10could outsmart him. Once we grew up, I don't think I could outsmart
- 53:15my brother ever again. But when I was, you know, when I
- 53:21was in elementary school and he wasn't in school yet, when I was in
- 53:23junior high and he was still in elementary school and stuff like that, then
- 53:27I could. But and it gets partly because I developed intellectually on fast forward
- 53:36and and then finished right. But there's just no way that I could have
- 53:42been like a bully to him, like I couldn't have. I might have
- 53:46been as a toddler, but as I got older, there was just no
- 53:51way. And by the time I was in the first grade, I was
- 53:53wearing his hand me downs like kids two years younger than me. So there
- 54:00you go. But but in any case, yeah, we would, we
- 54:02would. We were kind of back to back fighters growing up. There wasn't
- 54:09any of this, like it really was us against the world, and I
- 54:13think that made us a stronger family. And we've tagged teamed a lot of
- 54:16stuff growing up. Even now, like out sometimes just get a feeling that
- 54:24I need to call and find out that you know, something's going on and
- 54:29he needs advice, or he'll get a feeling that I need a call and
- 54:31he'll find out something's going on and I need advice. You know. It's
- 54:36just we just are like that. And I wish everybody's family was raised that
- 54:43way, because it's I don't know what I would do without it, And
- 54:49it does suck that it's it's okay to beat up on a younger brother,
- 54:52but not okay with it, Like it shouldn't be okay to beat up on
- 54:55a younger brother. All kids should be raised with the understanding, you know,
- 55:00it's you guys against the world, right, and and you you have
- 55:06each other first, and everybody else that comes along until you meet the person
- 55:12that you're going to be partnered with for the rest of your life. Everyone
- 55:15else that comes along is just a friend in comparison. And you know,
- 55:20so you you have each other first, you have each other's backs. But
- 55:24yeah, I depending on when you grew up, West wolver says, Et
- 55:30was not that great of a movie. It for the time, it was
- 55:34an amazing movie. It might seem cheesy by today's standards, but but for
- 55:40the time period, yeah, it was. It was quite an amazing movie.
- 55:46So it's gen X nostalgia there you have to you have to understand and
- 55:54and I'm sure like baby boomers have nostalgia for a whole different set of movies
- 55:59and a whole different set of uh standards in movies. And then I would
- 56:06say the same thing about millennials what they would consider to be a great movie,
- 56:13like probably so they don't get into either of our generations movies except maybe
- 56:17Goonies. So there you go. I watched Goonies on the on the on
- 56:24the plane to the US or back from the US recently, and just just
- 56:30because I haven't seen it for twenty five years, I remember every scene.
- 56:35Yeah, everything, there's a single moment of that film that isn't burned in
- 56:38my brain. Fucking classic. Yeah. They wouldn't even make that movie today.
- 56:45They wouldn't. There's there's a few problematic things in that movie that they
- 56:50just wouldn't do today, all right, but but they did back then.
- 56:55Let's take a look at Let's see if I can get it to please happy
- 57:05Hope. He's such a difficult child anyway to handle. But I just couldn't
- 57:10take another another child. Who do you think is the most important person in
- 57:15his life. What say I am your say so I'm matching? Though,
- 57:23well, I would agree with that. Now, children don't learn things by
- 57:30being born with a machinery for anying things. No, they have to be
- 57:36trained and developed. A good teacher, A good mother is a person who
- 57:39gives good ease, love and affection and tenderness and gratification, but who,
- 57:46in crucial situations can say, no, how good a teacher are you?
- 57:52Particularly when your child doesn't want to listen to you. He gets punished,
- 57:57and that's so there is to it. And then you become a punitive teacher
- 58:00because he's very rude. He goes to bed, and he's punished, and
- 58:04it doesn't matter to him if he doesn't watch the television. He just goes
- 58:07overmind me with a flipper and he goes to his room. Doesn't always work
- 58:12well after you've given him a beating. Do you feel I just want to?
- 58:15I want to. I want to hit that one line again here?
- 58:19Wait ah, I just I just went way back. Let's see where were
- 58:23we here? Yeah? You raise when I raise my voice to him,
- 58:36voice back, My husband isn't. Let's see if I can get back to
- 58:44it. There we go. I also want to point out. Look at
- 58:49the expression on her face. Well, she's very guarded. She look how
- 58:57guarded she is? Right, she won't. She's not looking directly at the
- 59:02at the doctor. She's not facing things head on, and she's giving the
- 59:09answers that she thinks are correct. And let's see if he such a patients
- 59:19can say, no, how good a teacher are you? So we're going
- 59:23to get bad and he's punished and it doesn't matter to him if he doesn't
- 59:30watch the television. He just goes, oh, my knee with a flipper
- 59:32and he goes to his room. It doesn't always work well after you've given
- 59:37him a beating. So that's the line, after you've given him a beating.
- 59:42When I was a kid, we would hear that term and it was
- 59:45it was. It was not used to mean what I would have thought of
- 59:50as a beating on a regular basis. Kids would kids say, oh,
- 59:53you got a beating? What was described the beating? I was hit in
- 59:58the butt once with a paddle, like, that's not a beating. I've
- 1:00:01been to the park down the street from my house and taken a beating.
- 1:00:05That's that's not a beating. You got spanked, right, and so kids
- 1:00:08in my neighborhood were very careful to differentiate because there were kids that had beatings
- 1:00:15in my neighborhood. There were kids whose parents didn't just hit them in the
- 1:00:20butt with a paddle. There were kids whose parents would hit them with a
- 1:00:23belt. There were kids whose parents would hit them in the face, like
- 1:00:29slap them across the face, kids that would come to school with bruises for
- 1:00:34severe behavior. And it was still considered the norm that if your behavior was
- 1:00:40over the top, that and over the top punishment would happen. And when
- 1:00:46I was a kid, one day child Protective Services came and talked to us
- 1:00:50in school about the difference between a spanking and a beating, and a lot
- 1:00:58of kids at home with this idea they could talk to their parents and say,
- 1:01:05you can't do this anymore because Child Protective Services said so. And a
- 1:01:08lot of parents told their kids, you know what happens if you call them
- 1:01:13you don't live here anymore, They will come get you and they will take
- 1:01:16you and they will put you with other parents in another house, and that's
- 1:01:20where you'll stay. And nobody called. Nobody wanted to go live somewhere else,
- 1:01:28so not to say that it's not abusive to beat your kids, because
- 1:01:37I think it is. But it's not useful to teach the children that they
- 1:01:45should call CPS under that circumstance, because the parents that are going to get
- 1:01:52called on are likely to tell them something like that, And unless things are
- 1:01:55so bad that the child is afraid to stay at home, they're not a
- 1:02:00call, just so you know. But yeah, it was pretty normal back
- 1:02:05then to refer to any kind of discipline Like she says, she puts the
- 1:02:09child over her knee and hits him in the butt with her slipper, which
- 1:02:15I imagine they were much thirty year slippers back then, because I just can't
- 1:02:19imagine that being and like my friends and I hit each other with things that
- 1:02:24were a lot worse than that, but but yeah, I imagine there were
- 1:02:30more like little shoes in this. So it would be like getting paddled with
- 1:02:35a paddle, and that was referred to as a beating. And there's a
- 1:02:42reason wait till your father gets home is so much more effective than just a
- 1:02:49paddling with a slipper because it puts it puts the fear of death into a
- 1:02:54child. Even though when the father gets home and the mother goes to it.
- 1:03:04He very often takes the child into another room and goes Your mother's upset
- 1:03:07with you. We have to do something to appease your mother. So let's
- 1:03:14just act like we did and then it's over with. But it was the
- 1:03:17fear itself, perhaps the fear for several hours while they wait for the father
- 1:03:24to get home. It's the fear itself that does it. And maybe that's
- 1:03:29not ideal either, because using fear to teach a child is you know,
- 1:03:35is not ideal either, But it's a lot better than actual violence, because
- 1:03:38that is what teaches a child that violence is is how we solve these issues.
- 1:03:47And you know, to a child, well, I get spanked in
- 1:03:51the ass with a slipper means I have to do some kind of cruel into
- 1:03:55another child who doesn't do who crosses me in some way, and they don't
- 1:04:01have access to a slipper. All they have is their fists. So the
- 1:04:05light I'll do the closest equivalent I can think of of spanking this other child
- 1:04:12with my did we lose your Mike? Oh? I think I think we
- 1:04:21lost Mike there for a minute. And this is this is where you know,
- 1:04:27like personally. I was a difficult child, not because of any kind
- 1:04:30of behavioral disorder, but because it was very difficult to use standard punishments on
- 1:04:35me. And my brother was the same way in some ways, like he
- 1:04:39had such a high pain tolerance. You know, spanking him wasn't going to
- 1:04:43be very effective like you could. You really would have had to be abusive
- 1:04:48to him to make spanking effective, and my parents were not going to do
- 1:04:53that. A lot of one of the common things that was done in the
- 1:04:57seventies and eighties when we were kids was grounding. That didn't I don't think
- 1:05:01that existed, when maybe it did, because didn't leave it to Beaver get
- 1:05:08grounded sometimes, yeah, the little boy. But I just like my parents
- 1:05:14didn't do that, and it wouldn't have worked on me because I would have
- 1:05:18just sat in my room and read all my books. And they were teachers,
- 1:05:21so they were not going to say you cannot read your books. Yeah,
- 1:05:25And they could have said, well, instead of reading your entertaining books,
- 1:05:29you're going to read school books or the dictionary or the encyclopedia. But
- 1:05:35I was already doing that because I was a nerd. So having a child
- 1:05:41that doesn't get bored a significant portion of the punishments that were people came up
- 1:05:47with during like the late sixties, early seventies and eighties that were not corporal
- 1:05:54punishment used boredom as as a punishment. So you couldn't You couldn't punish me
- 1:06:00with boredom because it couldn't be inflicted. You could put me in a room
- 1:06:05with just wallpaper, and I would come out of there and tell you how
- 1:06:11many of whatever pattern on the wallpaper there was, or tell you where all
- 1:06:15the faces were in the wallpaper, you know, like and how far you
- 1:06:20had to stand away to see the faces, you know, just whatever,
- 1:06:25you know. I like, I could do the paradolia thing. Or I
- 1:06:29would come out and I would have in my head a whole story written,
- 1:06:32possibly about the wallpaper. Still like that didn't do anything. So and my
- 1:06:40brother like, it was the opposite with him in terms of like if you
- 1:06:45grounded him, it deprived him of something that was as fundamental to his existence
- 1:06:50as air and nutrition. You had to let him go outside, You had
- 1:06:56to have him, let him socialize with his friends. So it would have
- 1:06:59been in it have been like a real beating, not just paddling a child,
- 1:07:03but a real, honest to goodness bruise, leaving beating to ground him.
- 1:07:09So they couldn't do that to either of us. So we had we
- 1:07:13had. You know, this is this is what has you know happened.
- 1:07:15This is this is the consequences that you inflicted. Now it's your job to
- 1:07:20do your best to mitigate those consequences. So if if the consequences cost somebody
- 1:07:27money, we did chores. Mom and dad quote unquote paid us for the
- 1:07:31chores at minimum wage until we had earned enough to pay back what we cost
- 1:07:38somebody. And you break somebody's stuff, you you do chores to pay for
- 1:07:42it, and then you go out with mom and dad and you spend that
- 1:07:45money and replace the item, you know, and things like that. And
- 1:07:51that was a lot of what we did growing up, was recognizing consequences for
- 1:07:57behaviors and doing the labor or sacrifices of time and effort and things to to
- 1:08:05mitigate those consequences. Like and if you misused an item, the item was
- 1:08:12taken away until you learn to use it properly. That was that was basically
- 1:08:16it. But but yeah, but boredom didn't have any effect on me.
- 1:08:23Yeah, Like I said, the most effective punishment for a child, if
- 1:08:28it works, is you've pissed people off. Yeah, and to some degree
- 1:08:32that works on most normal children because because they do understand that sort of thing
- 1:08:42as the simplest of of of consequences, Like people, people are going to
- 1:08:47give you the evil lie if you do this obviously, like like you're saying,
- 1:08:53if if that doesn't work, and for a lot of children it doesn't,
- 1:08:56then you need to go to removing something that that they would normally rely
- 1:09:04on for their everyday enjoyment. So it's like I say, it's not so
- 1:09:09much fear as as as as deprivation of a luxury because because people give their
- 1:09:15children luxuries, given whatever luxuries they can afford. So yeah, the first
- 1:09:23step if you've raised a healthy child is just this, this this simple emotional
- 1:09:30spike of you're in the doghouse right now, and if that doesn't work,
- 1:09:34then you take away something that they don't need but they do enjoy. And
- 1:09:39only if that doesn't work do you resort to physical punishment. And if you've
- 1:09:46if you've done everything right, and if your child really doesn't have something wrong
- 1:09:51with their brain, then then all of that should work before you ever have
- 1:09:57to resort to physical punishment now, and and really you ought to consult some
- 1:10:02kind of child psychologists before you even resort to that, because because what this
- 1:10:10whole video we're talking about, perhaps and is the case with some children.
- 1:10:15Some children are like some dogs. Some of them are like any animal.
- 1:10:19Some of them are just assholes. So some of them just have too much
- 1:10:25energy, and and they don't and they don't know how to express that energy.
- 1:10:29And yeah, I should stop talking because I'm not a parent. Well
- 1:10:33i am, and I'll put it this way. If your kid is old
- 1:10:38enough to understand and answer complex questions like how do you think that it felt
- 1:10:45for Johnny when you bit him on the arm? And picture Johnny's experience of
- 1:10:51being bitten and imagine that Johnny had pain and answer you, well, it
- 1:10:59probably hurt john And be aware of that. You are past the point where
- 1:11:04you should need to be spanking the child like that. At that age,
- 1:11:10you can get the child to understand how much is Johnny gonna like you if
- 1:11:14you bite him? And would you like Johnny very much if he bit you?
- 1:11:19And once you lead the child through that discussion, you can get them
- 1:11:24to understand, you know, well, I want Johnny to like me,
- 1:11:28maybe we'll figure out some other way to negotiate who gets to have a turn
- 1:11:33next with this this toy or this game or whatever, and you know,
- 1:11:40or whatever else they were arguing over. And but when the child is prior
- 1:11:46to that age where you can you can explain consequences and stuff like that,
- 1:11:51there will be behaviors that your kid does that are a threat to his or
- 1:11:56her life, like trying to run out in front of traffic, or trying
- 1:11:59to stay got fork in an electrical outlet, or trying to break through the
- 1:12:02little lock you have on the cupboards to get into where the bleach and stuff
- 1:12:06is that you don't want the child taking a taste of. And then if
- 1:12:12the child persists and just doesn't understand and can't understand why mommy and daddy don't
- 1:12:17want them in that cupboard, then slapping a wrist or my my dad used
- 1:12:23to have this thing. It doesn't injure, it doesn't hurt, it's not
- 1:12:27painful, it's just very fucking annoying. And he would he would just one,
- 1:12:31you know how, you're like flick a booker off your fingers, except
- 1:12:35he'd landed on your lip, Like right, under your nose, like right
- 1:12:39in that little cupid's bow part. And that was if you were being whiny,
- 1:12:46like for no reason, nothing's going on. You've you've said, you've
- 1:12:50been told no for something, and you're doing them kind of behavior that that
- 1:12:59sort of shocks the kid out of the behavior and you get this little and
- 1:13:02then you look at dad and Dad's like, don't do that. And that
- 1:13:06was the end of that. There was no no suffering from it, no
- 1:13:10nothing. And you know, you get the communication. Crying means that something's
- 1:13:15wrong, so you know, or that you're sad about something and you need
- 1:13:19my help. And if you do that when you don't need my help,
- 1:13:23then I won't know when you need my help, right, And that's not
- 1:13:27something that they do just with boys like I got that. I still remember
- 1:13:30that. I remember a lot of things that happened when I was little that
- 1:13:32I remember that just because I was like, don't do that. Well,
- 1:13:36I'm gonna do that every time you wine. You know, you can tell
- 1:13:40me when something's wrong, but don't you sit there and wine. And that
- 1:13:45was that was the communication. So if something was wrong, you know,
- 1:13:48then I had to say I'm really not happy about this you know or whatever.
- 1:13:55Parents don't seem to do that with their kids. They treat their kids
- 1:13:58as little accessories that they're just towing along with them in their lives. Like
- 1:14:01your child is your student. Your focus as a parent, your main focus
- 1:14:08as a parent is your child, and and everything else comes second. That's
- 1:14:13why you have children, is to give somebody a new life and a chance
- 1:14:20at at the best life they can have. And it's your focus to give
- 1:14:26them every tool that you have in your toolbox to achieve that. But but
- 1:14:33yeah, and yeah, Reggie will point has pointed out if you're in the
- 1:14:39wrong state, the strength calls CPS. That's true. Unfortunately, if especially
- 1:14:45if the child says anything about discipline, or if the psychiatrist thinks the child
- 1:14:53is the wrong sex for their body. So let's see going on here,
- 1:15:02maybe play. Do you feel he's learning something? No? Do you feel
- 1:15:08you've learned something? No? No. I well, I am inclined to
- 1:15:15be what highly strung said, believe, but I try desperately to handle the
- 1:15:23situation of calmly as one can. You mean you don't think you should be
- 1:15:28so he just said, after the child's had a beating, do you feel
- 1:15:30the child learned something? She says, no, do you feel you've learned
- 1:15:33something? No? And and he asks about her anger, and she admits
- 1:15:39to being high strung, which most women today will also not do high strung,
- 1:15:45but just just to just to put that, get that point across.
- 1:15:49And you can see now now she has an expression on her face right,
- 1:15:54that is frustration, that is desperation. She's unhappy about the way it works.
- 1:16:02We have a super chow. You shall read, Oh, you shall
- 1:16:05read. Gave me five dollars and said you shall read all of Nietzsche's words
- 1:16:11and explain what it all means as your punishment. That would have been that
- 1:16:15would have been detrimental to the whole world to have me read NIZZI when I
- 1:16:19was a little impressionable little kid. If I was that impressionable, I mean
- 1:16:26I become a super punished Adults have a hard time reading Nietzsche kids kid.
- 1:16:35I got. I got a little bit morose after reading Lovecraft for crying out
- 1:16:41loud, and that was fiction. Do you feel you've learned something? No?
- 1:16:49No, I would agree, are you when all this happens? Well,
- 1:16:53I am inclined to be what highly strong say the least I try so
- 1:17:00yes, to handle your situation as calmly as one can. You mean,
- 1:17:04you don't think you should be angry, I shouldn't show my anger? Why
- 1:17:10not? Well, it seems to me though, that because he follows your
- 1:17:15example. Well, also trying very hard not to teach him, because when
- 1:17:20you're angry, you're entitled be angry. If you're putting a lid on that
- 1:17:26is it also possible that you're curving a lot of belove you might give him,
- 1:17:30because if one learns to put a lid on feelings, it's very hard
- 1:17:33to open up the lids for feeling A, but close it for feeling B.
- 1:17:40But the thing is, I find that when you raise when I raise
- 1:17:43my voice to him, he raises his voice back, my husband, So
- 1:17:47I want to pause there. So what what he just explained here is if
- 1:17:54and and she's sort of got this curious judge kind of look on her face
- 1:18:00here, But he's explaining that if she doesn't let the child know she's angry
- 1:18:08when she's angry, he doesn't learn how to handle anger. He doesn't even
- 1:18:15know that it's angry. It just learns that you use violence as retribution,
- 1:18:19even if you're not angry, which is far more sinister than the idea of
- 1:18:25an angry child. Lots of children get angry all the time. Lots of
- 1:18:28people are angry all the time, but they don't resort to violence. Teaching
- 1:18:31a child that you resort to violence even if you're not apparently angry, is
- 1:18:36so dangerous because that's that's that's why so many children become become these hideous bullies,
- 1:18:45because even when they're not angry, they're just like, well, I
- 1:18:47just use violence to get what I want, and then I'll laugh about it.
- 1:18:51Yep. And I remember this one time when I was a kid.
- 1:18:57I don't remember what it was that I did, but I remember the lecture
- 1:19:01and I remember the moment where it turned from a lecture to my dad and
- 1:19:08me laughing, and it was it was it was funny because I have that
- 1:19:14mind that turns everything into images, right when you describe something to me.
- 1:19:17So my dad had just got done telling me all of the potential consequences that
- 1:19:23could have happened for what the risk that I had taken. I had done
- 1:19:26something stupid like jump out of the We had a clubhouse that was we called
- 1:19:30it a tree house, but there was no tree. It was on a
- 1:19:32post and it was like ten feet off the ground, so it was a
- 1:19:35ten foot jump. It wasn't like a It was dangerous for a kid,
- 1:19:40but not super dangerous because kids are more flexible. And had a fireman's pole
- 1:19:47because the guy that owned the house before us bought the garage door and the
- 1:19:51fire pole from the firehouse when they replaced it, and he put the firepole
- 1:19:56in the clubhouse and he put the garage door on his garage and then discovered
- 1:20:00that it was too heavy for anything but an industrial garage door opener. But
- 1:20:03in any case, so I had done something like that and or maybe climbed
- 1:20:08on top, you know. And Dad was talking about you could have gotten
- 1:20:11hurt really badly. You could have broken your neck, you could have been
- 1:20:13paralyzed this, that, that, and he was really mad, and I
- 1:20:15could tell he was really mad. And he's like, and he said,
- 1:20:19the reason I'm so mad is because you could have gotten hurt and that would
- 1:20:24break my heart. And he goes, if I ever see you do anything
- 1:20:28like that again, I'm gonna kick your butt up between your shoulder blades.
- 1:20:30And then he stopped because the next line of that is you're gonna have done
- 1:20:32button your shirt to take a ship. And it was the kind of thing
- 1:20:35you would yell at another guy in a bar, not at your kid.
- 1:20:39And I got this mental image, complete with the beript sound effect, of
- 1:20:45a dad kicking a cartoon girl's butt and it goes up between her shoulder blades
- 1:20:49and her legs are really, really long, and she's got these big cartoon
- 1:20:53eyes. And I got this look on my face and I was trying really
- 1:20:58hard not to laugh, and I could see my dad realized. I could
- 1:21:01see on his face that he was realizing that I was picturing what he just
- 1:21:05said, and that made him picture it, and he started laughing, and
- 1:21:11then I knew it was okay to laugh. And he's like, you understand
- 1:21:15why I'm mad at you, right, And I'm like, yes, and
- 1:21:19I won't do it again. But that was funny. He was like,
- 1:21:23never say that to anybody. Don't yell at it anybody, because it's not
- 1:21:27a nice thing to say. But I couldn't help laughing at it, you
- 1:21:31know. And that was the way we were with the discipline. Once I
- 1:21:34got the point and I understood, but he didn't hide the fact that he
- 1:21:39was mad. He did show me that he was controlling it, and you
- 1:21:44know that he wasn't he wasn't going to hit me, and he explained why
- 1:21:47he was mad, and that was how you like. This lady has just
- 1:21:53admitted that she hides her anger from the child, so the child gets the
- 1:21:57punishment but doesn't understand. Mom is angry because he's done something that is detrimental
- 1:22:04to his welfare and his relationships with other people, and and she she's punishing
- 1:22:13because of that. And yeah, that's that's how you create a sociopath.
- 1:22:17But I have to say, as sinister as this woman appears, with her
- 1:22:23lack of emotion, is still so much less sinister than modern day mothers,
- 1:22:28who will explain all the same crap with a shit eating grin on their face.
- 1:22:31Yeah no, I don't get angry. I never experienced anything bad.
- 1:22:39I'm entirely a good person. I need to discipline my child anyway. Yeah,
- 1:22:48yeah, go ahead, all the bullshit, For all the bullshit you
- 1:22:54can say about fifties and sixties mothers and how they were emotionally repressed. You
- 1:23:00haven't fixed this by by fixing a smile to your face while you say exactly
- 1:23:05the same shit, and the same goes for the teachers. Yeah, who
- 1:23:10fixed these smiles to their faces while they say lupron is completely reversible, completely
- 1:23:17fine. Yeah, if butter wouldn't melt in your mouth, you're probably lying.
- 1:23:25M everybody. Everybody probably hasn't heard that expression. Butter wouldn't melt in
- 1:23:29my mouth is the type of smile where you have the big white grin and
- 1:23:33it's completely fake. It's the one that if you're in a beauty pageant,
- 1:23:39you know, like women in beauty pageants will put vasoline on their teeth because
- 1:23:45it's really uncomfortable to put your lips over your teeth if you have vasoline on
- 1:23:48your teeth, and so they put the vasoline on their teeth and then then
- 1:23:53they will go out there with this big jackline or and smile like and and
- 1:23:58it looks like you're actually being tortured in my opinion, but uh, but
- 1:24:03it's but it's a real looking you know, as long as you can crinkle
- 1:24:06your eyes and everything. Yeah, it's almost the herald the Pain smile,
- 1:24:10except it looks like a real smile and it's creepier because of that. Albert
- 1:24:15eddar Retro gave us two dollars Canadian and said she looks to be in need
- 1:24:18of a cunning linguist. Yeah, she she does kind of look a little
- 1:24:24bitch, she has it. That's the thing about the the emotionally repressed women
- 1:24:29of the sixties, and that there were some It was the idea that you
- 1:24:33were supposed to be serious all the time, right and and and yeah,
- 1:24:39warp reflection, you got it right. It was usually used for little girls
- 1:24:42that look all and act all sweet and innocent, but they're little bitches,
- 1:24:45right. They have this nice, big smile and they have this cute,
- 1:24:48little, sweet innocent look on their face, but they say the most horrible
- 1:24:51things to you. And I knew kids like that, and mostly girls.
- 1:24:58But yeah, this idea of women are supposed to hide their emotions and not
- 1:25:03to to keep people guessing. Right, You keep the upper hand by keep
- 1:25:06people keeping people guessing. And there's a degree to which that does work if
- 1:25:12you are going to use people's wrong guesses against them. Yeah, it's it's
- 1:25:17very passive, aggressive and old school. Loo is that a typo? And
- 1:25:33it says I got forehead vaginal cream, but they read it wrong. Come
- 1:25:38back, you read it wrong. To figure out the same rules like what
- 1:25:44that has to be a typo? Please tell me that's typo. I don't.
- 1:25:50Yeah, but but forehead. Nobody has a vagina on their forehead.
- 1:25:57Like, Okay, I'm confused. You have to explain that. I'm going
- 1:26:01to go in with the video here. But yeah, this this lack of
- 1:26:04expression, you can still see like she's analyzing the doctor as much as he's
- 1:26:10analyzing her. And I think she is trying to think and consider everything the
- 1:26:15doctor's saying. And there's a very Being female makes you do a thing that
- 1:26:25I think men either have more control over than women or don't do, where
- 1:26:32you hear criticism through a filter of everybody having told you that your image is
- 1:26:39more important than your impact on the world. And I've watched this happen with
- 1:26:44girls around me and to a degree felt it myself. It's I've had an
- 1:26:48easier time with it because my parents focus on discipline when I was growing up,
- 1:26:54was getting my impact on the world across to me because they really couldn't,
- 1:26:58like I said, they couldn't really punish me by spanking me very well,
- 1:27:01and they couldn't punish me by boredom because I don't get bored. So
- 1:27:08that was what was left. You have to have a sense of responsibility for
- 1:27:13the consequences of your actions on the people around you and on yourself. But
- 1:27:18a lot of girls grow up with you know, it's what will other people
- 1:27:23think of you? If you do this? What will other people think of
- 1:27:27you? If you act like this, if you look like this, if
- 1:27:31you are like this, how will they judge you? How will you be
- 1:27:35judged? And so growing up they develop this filter that all criticism comes through.
- 1:27:46I'm judging you harshly, and you have this sense of I'm not that
- 1:27:51bad to resist it, and it sounds offensive at first before you actually get
- 1:28:00to analyze what's been said to you. It would be easier for you to
- 1:28:05raise this child if you do these things. No, I'm not saying you're
- 1:28:11a bad mother. I'm saying that you need these tools instead of those tools
- 1:28:15to do this job. And you've missed this tool, and if you start
- 1:28:19using this tool, you'll have a happier household. That's not you're bad,
- 1:28:26but you hear it as you're bad because you're female. And I think a
- 1:28:30lot of guys because they're raised almost entirely with respect to their impact on the
- 1:28:38world as opposed to like your image is created by your impact on the world,
- 1:28:46like as opposed to, your image comes first and your impact doesn't matter.
- 1:28:50Right, So they maybe don't have the same experience. If they do
- 1:28:57have the same experience, they're better at hand handling it than women are.
- 1:29:00And I can see her trying to handle that experience in this facial expression.
- 1:29:09I don't know, does that make sense, Lauren? Yeah, No,
- 1:29:12it does it? Does it? What I get from her face is like
- 1:29:17she she just looks like someone who has been worn down by the day to
- 1:29:23day dealings with this child that she feels that she can't control, right.
- 1:29:28She she feels like she's at her wits end. She feels like she's done
- 1:29:31everything that she can to try to take control of this situation, but it's
- 1:29:35not working. And so, you know, how is anyone else going to
- 1:29:41come in and tell her what she should be doing differently? You know what
- 1:29:45I mean? How can how can whatever she's and have for this this many
- 1:29:50years been wrong and someone else is going to tell me how to do it
- 1:29:54better? And you know, but it takes discipline, you know what I
- 1:29:59mean. It takes one accepting message that maybe the things that you're doing is
- 1:30:05wrong and or not as effective in the way that you would like, you
- 1:30:12know, to get the results that you want out of this child. And
- 1:30:15she's just looking very skeptical at this doctor, like all right, And I
- 1:30:19would think from this gesture right here, I think anything that he tells her,
- 1:30:27she might listen to it, but I don't think she would actually fully
- 1:30:30apply it day by day. It's like training a dog, you know what
- 1:30:34I mean. You have to follow through. It's not just well, I'm
- 1:30:39going to try it this one time and if it doesn't work, well,
- 1:30:42then it doesn't work and it's rubbish and just forget. I'm just gonna go
- 1:30:45back to what I know, which is just spanking this kid until it doesn't
- 1:30:49work anymore, which she's already at that point and she's admitted it, you
- 1:30:56know. But if you if you can't consistent, you know, and I
- 1:31:03hate to say it, like train your child, but that's what it is.
- 1:31:08It's a lot like it's a lot like your child is an apprentice adult.
- 1:31:13Yeah, yeah, and you have it's it's it's a job that it's
- 1:31:21something that you have to want to do. And that's why, you know,
- 1:31:26I understand a little bit, you know, because I'm hesitant to do
- 1:31:30that because again, you don't she probably had every hope and dream in the
- 1:31:35world for this lovely little baby that came into her life and it just didn't
- 1:31:42turn out the way that she expected, and now she's upset about it.
- 1:31:46You know that that's not an unnatural feeling. But you have to be able
- 1:31:54to, uh, you know, accept other people. You have to be
- 1:31:58able to take other people's inions and and at other advice on board. Otherwise
- 1:32:05you're just gonna remain frustrated, you know. And I that that's what I'm
- 1:32:11getting from her face right here. She just seems like she's just so downtrodden.
- 1:32:16And well, maybe not so much, because you know, at least
- 1:32:20she's still trying. You know, she recognizes that there's something that needs to
- 1:32:25be done, but I just don't think that she has a clue about how
- 1:32:30to get it, how to do it. I'm gonna I'm gonna point out
- 1:32:34one other thing. There are two ways to go, two directions to go
- 1:32:40with makeup in terms of your how you're it affects your features. You can
- 1:32:46exaggerate or harden your features, or you can soften your features and I will
- 1:32:51point out if you look, because this is she's I think she's in the
- 1:32:55middle of a blink. Here her eyes being a half masted, you can
- 1:33:00see heavy eyeliner, and her eyebrows are darkened. And aside, like she
- 1:33:04doesn't have dark lipstick, but she's kind of hardened her features with her makeup,
- 1:33:11and that is that is something that I usually see with people who are
- 1:33:14authoritarian, Like women who are authoritarian will harden their makeup if they wear makeup.
- 1:33:21Just a point, Mike, you were gonna say something, I'm gonna
- 1:33:28say. She doesn't seem frustrated to me. Maybe maybe this is because things
- 1:33:32are different now than they were in the sixties, But I mean, you
- 1:33:40can picture of frustrated expression. It involves wide eyes and perhaps some kind of
- 1:33:45twitchy demeanor. This this seems like someone who whatever emotional conditions she has now,
- 1:33:56she had before she had children. I think it's more to do with
- 1:34:00how she was raised than how she's raising her child. And again I get
- 1:34:06maybe there's something I'm missing about the way people had to raise children back in
- 1:34:14the day before we had so many distractions with which to children. But this
- 1:34:24the expression we're looking at, and the only expression we've seen is a cold
- 1:34:29one. It's barely any expression at all. It seems like someone she seems
- 1:34:34like she thought she knew how to raise a child before she even went into
- 1:34:39it. And again this is this is all speculation, and you know,
- 1:34:45I don't take my word for anything, but it seems like someone someone who
- 1:34:48thought it would be easy to raise a child and she still thinks it's easy.
- 1:34:54Yeah, And there's another aspect to this to to keep in mind.
- 1:34:59They are they have agreed to be on camera, and they are in front
- 1:35:04of psychiatrists. And there is a thing that people do when they go to
- 1:35:11speak to a psychiatrist or any any I guess service helper that they feel is
- 1:35:20going to judge them, like if you're going to speak to people at Job
- 1:35:27and Family And this is if you get what's it called. It's Assistance for
- 1:35:40Pregnant Mothers. Specifically, it's called Women Infants Children WICK. If you get
- 1:35:47enrolled in a program called WICK through Job and Family Services, they make you
- 1:35:51take parenting classes through Job and Family Services. And if you go in and
- 1:35:59just apply for Medicaid when you're pregnant, they browbeat you into also applying for
- 1:36:04food stamps and wick because they just assume that you need those things too,
- 1:36:09and if you're not applying for them, it's because you're too proud. And
- 1:36:12so when when I was pregnant, and at the time that I was pregnant,
- 1:36:19I was disabled by a back injury, I went in and applied for
- 1:36:24Medicaid. And then they once you apply, once you go in and talk
- 1:36:28to him about it, like if you don't follow through, they start threatening
- 1:36:32with child protective Services while you're not getting what you need. We may have
- 1:36:36to see if we got to take that baby away from you. So I
- 1:36:40just went ahead through with everything they wanted me to do. And you know,
- 1:36:45as soon as I got a job, I'm like, all right,
- 1:36:48I have a job now I don't need you guys anymore. But I went
- 1:36:53to the parenting classes and one of the things I noticed was the fakeness.
- 1:36:59There was a performance being done by every parent in the room, Like you
- 1:37:04perform I'm a good parent for the people who are judging whether or not you're
- 1:37:10going to be a good parent. And when you go to a psychiatrist,
- 1:37:14you perform if you don't if you're not going there to get diagnosed, you
- 1:37:16know, like I have a problem, and I need help with this problem,
- 1:37:19and I think I have a mental health condition, and I'm here to
- 1:37:24get diagnosed for this. You know, what is my mental health condition?
- 1:37:28Help me doctor, give me some drugs, you know, or whatever.
- 1:37:30And that's what's going on today a lot, right. But if you're in
- 1:37:33there with a family member and you're trying to get the family member diagnosed,
- 1:37:41you perform I'm a normal family member as part of a normal family in a
- 1:37:47normal household, and the only person in the family that has something wrong with
- 1:37:51them is the person that we've brought in for help. And well, this
- 1:37:57mother isn't going quite that far where she's she's willing to say that she thinks
- 1:38:00being the most important person in the kid's life, she's part of the problem.
- 1:38:04And she doesn't understand what she's not doing right, what the child is
- 1:38:09missing and not getting from her. She's still trying to perform. I'm I'm
- 1:38:15not there's nothing wrong with me, right, And so you're you're going to
- 1:38:19see her masking. And what I'm seeing with her behavior here is if I
- 1:38:27keep my face as neutral as possible, I won't betray any normalcy that you
- 1:38:34can focus on and you'll have to treat the child. We have two rumble
- 1:38:43rents and a super chow and a super chat here. I'm going to read
- 1:38:47all of them, and then I don't think we're gonna do any farther with
- 1:38:50a video tonight. I think this will I'm going to call the show here.
- 1:38:57Albert Nady Retro gave his five dollars Kenny and said, boycott expendables four.
- 1:39:01They replaced Terry Crews with fifty cent even though he harassed Crews overcoming forward
- 1:39:06about a sexual assault. I haven't seen any of the expendables actually, now
- 1:39:13that I think about it, but so it's hard for me to do it.
- 1:39:16But now you guys are aware of it. If you want to jump
- 1:39:20on the boycott, there's the information. Playing Dane gave his five dollars and
- 1:39:27a Superchow and said I have more stories that are kind of similar, and
- 1:39:30they pissed me off to this day. The teacher assigned us a task to
- 1:39:33drawn color and animal with color pencils. Since I grew up reading manga and
- 1:39:38comic books, I had some experience with drawing and characters in manga and comics,
- 1:39:42and I was pretty decent at it. Don't get me wrong. I
- 1:39:45wasn't a Salvador Dolly, but I was better than average. Anyways, I
- 1:39:48drew a tiger and the teacher walks up to me, takes a look at
- 1:39:50my drawing and says it looks ugly. What the hell? I was shocked
- 1:39:57and stopped drawing. She walked away, and I looked at the other kids
- 1:40:00drawings. They looked like shit in comparison to mine. This happened in first
- 1:40:03grade, and I think this was my first experience with gas lighting. I
- 1:40:09took my drawing and showed it to other students and teachers, and they all
- 1:40:13said it looked good. The other instance that still pisses me off happened during
- 1:40:18my freshman year in high school. I got into trouble because my all female
- 1:40:23science groupmates decided to mix all the chemicals in one beaker, resulting in the
- 1:40:27chemistry teacher yelling at me and accusing me of trying to make a bomb with
- 1:40:30soap, bleach and lime juice. Oh geez, how were they that unsupervised
- 1:40:36to begin with? My chemistry teacher never would let that happen, but I
- 1:40:42will say he was always very present in the classroom. I was just reading
- 1:40:48the instructions, I looked at her and asked, what the fuck is wrong
- 1:40:54with by the way I threw the chair in sixth grade, whenever I hear
- 1:40:59boys fall behind in school, I'm reminded of these experiences I had. Yeah,
- 1:41:04it sounds to me like your chemistry teacher was not as present as my
- 1:41:10chemistry teacher. But my chemistry teacher was very meticulous and also put the fear
- 1:41:16of God into us about messing with the chemicals in a class because some things
- 1:41:20when you mix them create, you know, like invisible poisonous gas, and
- 1:41:29we didn't want to kill ourselves. But at the same time, my lab
- 1:41:35partners, my lab partners blew up a Pyrex beaker by we were supposed to
- 1:41:44have a a iron skillet or some sort of cookware that we were doing the
- 1:41:53make peanut brittle experiment, and they blew that up and it ruined everybody's because
- 1:42:00the girl that was supposed to bring the pan didn't bring the pan. And
- 1:42:03it was bad because I almost brought one, thinking, you know, maybe
- 1:42:08what if she forgets, and and then I didn't because I was afraid if
- 1:42:14I brought one and she didn't forget, she would take it the wrong way,
- 1:42:18and I should have, because we ended up making it in that beaker,
- 1:42:24and I kept saying, you can't, you gotta take take it off
- 1:42:27the heat, take it off the heat. Something's something's wrong. It's making
- 1:42:30crackling noises. And the next thing, it just literally exploded. And you
- 1:42:35know, we had glass in our faces. I had stepped back and I
- 1:42:40still got glass in my face. It was bad. It was not a
- 1:42:43good experience. And it was hot too, so I'm lucky I don't have
- 1:42:46scars on my face from that. And then we had to pay for the
- 1:42:51beaker. And those things are more experienced or expensive than you would think me.
- 1:42:57Yes, yes, And it was are you have set? And it's
- 1:43:00set exactly that? But yeah, like and that one he allowed sort of
- 1:43:08because he was he was dealing with somebody else, but he had told us
- 1:43:14he had all three of us have been told you have to to put it
- 1:43:18back and forth on the heat or not do the experiment. You know this
- 1:43:20is and and he gave us a chance, and and we screwed it up.
- 1:43:25So so there you go. Let's see, we got the hard to
- 1:43:33pronounce name, which and what we gave us a dollar and said, got
- 1:43:38it. Women with sharp eyebrows our Karen's yeah to to like the nth degree.
- 1:43:44Most of the time when I run into women who have their eyebrows like
- 1:43:46really really tailored and darkened, or like the ones that shave their eyebrows off
- 1:43:55and draw it in with a pencil. Now, this doesn't cover women whose
- 1:44:00eyebrows don't grow in very well, Like if you see peach fuzz and she's
- 1:44:03darkened it, it's because she looks like she doesn't have any eyebrows if she
- 1:44:08doesn't do that. But I've seen women shave their eyebrows off and you can
- 1:44:13see this double sometimes too, and then draw them back on. And women
- 1:44:16who have perfectly normal, perfectly good eyebrows and then they put eyeliner in them
- 1:44:21to darken them and it looks like they've got you know, mustaches over their
- 1:44:27eyes, and they do they seem to like if they make themselves look more
- 1:44:31harsh they are. And then you have Noba Fan twenty one gave us a
- 1:44:39dollar and said, if you haven't done a show on it already, could
- 1:44:42you go into more detail about women being judged for their appearance unlike men for
- 1:44:46their impact. We have talked about this before, and we'll probably talk about
- 1:44:50it more in the future, but I do think I want to do more
- 1:44:55of a show about it. And it's not just women being judged for their
- 1:44:58appearance. It's women being told that is their mark on the world, because
- 1:45:05that's the shallowest mark. It doesn't even last your whole life, right,
- 1:45:11Yeah, men are also judged on their appearance. Yeah, but they're not
- 1:45:15only judged on their appearance unlike women. That's the that's that's the real difference.
- 1:45:21And in a lot of ways, men are judged on how their appearance
- 1:45:24might interfere with them making their mark on the world, where women they're judged
- 1:45:30on like I won't want to say judged on necessarily so much as encouraged to
- 1:45:38focus more on their appearance in the world than their mark on the world,
- 1:45:43if that makes sense. And yeah, it might be a future talk.
- 1:45:50I think that's everything, did I Yeah, I read the expendables thing.
- 1:45:57So that's those all right, And that is the last of our super chats
- 1:46:02and super chows. So we will remember we're at five fifty three, we're
- 1:46:08like just before six minutes into this, So this might be a few shows
- 1:46:13and we might break from it. In the middle, there is an article
- 1:46:16on on emotional labor in the workplace that at some point I want to go
- 1:46:25over with with Prim, but we'll have to figure out when she can be
- 1:46:30on and and then if we need to interrupt this, we'll interrupt it.
- 1:46:38And if we can't interrupt it, then we'll do this all the way through
- 1:46:41and then do the article that other article with Prim. So that's sort of
- 1:46:45what's coming up in the next few shows. So you'll have to We'll leave
- 1:46:49this as a as a cliff cliffhanger, and you'll have to tune in next
- 1:46:54week to find out more about the angry eyebrow lady and her kid and how
- 1:47:00psychiatry handles an aggressive child in the sixties as opposed to today. And I
- 1:47:04want to point out there is something that has not been mentioned here in the
- 1:47:08first six minutes of this video. We have not heard the phrase toxic masculinity.
- 1:47:14There is a reason for that. That phrase did not exist in psychiatry
- 1:47:19at that time. So with that, do you guys have anything else you
- 1:47:25want to add before we jump out. I'm going to be in America two
- 1:47:30days from now. He be there, folks. Well, I'm already in
- 1:47:35America. Well you better be, yeah, except but as Ohio. Yeah,
- 1:47:45I know, I know, well, especially like I don't have time
- 1:47:47to travel. You're you're the only badger whose house I haven't been to.
- 1:47:53I guess there's not much space for my fat ass. And there's not space
- 1:47:58for my fat ass in my house right now. Guys don't understand, like
- 1:48:01it literally looks like a hoarderhouse in my apartment right now, because we still
- 1:48:04have all my parents stuff in here. That and it's not like I didn't
- 1:48:08bring home a bunch of nick knacks and shit. My parents were local photographers.
- 1:48:14They ran a business of photography business. They were newspaper photographers. They
- 1:48:21were sports photographers for the newspaper, but they were also news photographers for the
- 1:48:26newspaper. So and we had already started bringing this stuff to me. I
- 1:48:31have a plan on what to do with this, like a couple of years
- 1:48:36prior to their deaths, that I've started amassing their work, fifty years of
- 1:48:45my family's work, and that includes black and white negatives, color negatives.
- 1:48:54There are some larger format negatives, not very many. A lot of prints
- 1:49:00there are old school, not old old school, not the five and half
- 1:49:08inch, but the small hard shelled floppy disks of you know, the both
- 1:49:15sizes, the seven fifties and the one fours. There's uh uh some drives.
- 1:49:25There's like there's a few of the old IBM micro drives. I don't
- 1:49:31know if anybody remembers those. There's some hard drives. There's CDs, DVDs.
- 1:49:39I've left something out zip discs, which I don't even know if I'll
- 1:49:45be able to get into them, because they're old, and those things had
- 1:49:46a tendency to just like corrupt for no fucking reason. I hated those things.
- 1:49:53And so like I've got a room full of media from five different counties,
- 1:50:02plus weddings from all over the Tri state area to digitize and put into
- 1:50:09a collection. And and then I have got some family heirlooms. So like
- 1:50:15there's a there's a lot of stuff here right now. Nobody's coming over to
- 1:50:18my place. Sorry, Like my what was my son's room before he grew
- 1:50:24up and moved out is currently it looks like a storage area. It's completely
- 1:50:29full. It's like somebody's attic right now. And then there's stuff out like
- 1:50:31the living room it has barely walking space through it. And we've been tidying
- 1:50:38up and putting things away and and organizing things and everything. But this is
- 1:50:41this is going to be like a long term project. God forbid, we
- 1:50:45have to move in the next five years because it's it's and then there's stuff
- 1:50:50in in storage too. So yeah, so I would I would actually have
- 1:50:59to avel and visit somebody like like that. That's basically and you know,
- 1:51:04that's what would have to happen for me to hang out with you guys,
- 1:51:08And that's just the way it is. And I probably maybe later this year
- 1:51:15now that like I'm doing the very last thing. I hope this Friday,
- 1:51:19I have a thing to sign and like the house has been sold. Everything
- 1:51:24that was still in the house went with the house. I am hopefully done
- 1:51:30dealing with the my parents insolvent estate after their death and can move on from
- 1:51:36that. And that means I'll be able to hopefully maybe do a mixed up
- 1:51:42meet up sometime later this year. But I'll keep you guys updated if that's
- 1:51:47going to happen. And until then, I'm just gonna be antisocial for you
- 1:51:55know, like normal and but with that, welcome to the Internet. We're
- 1:52:00all anti social scept the guys their uncle social Oh you you know, I
- 1:52:09had to. And with that, we'll go ahead and call it. I
- 1:52:13will talk to you guys next week. Thanks everybody for listening. Thanks to
- 1:52:18my two co hosts. This is this is kind of a weird subject matter,
- 1:52:23but I think we're we're doing pretty good with it. And uh,
- 1:52:26thanks to everybody who works in the background and make HBr talk happen. Good
- 1:52:30Night, Dool.