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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 9-18-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Oh happy friday everybody welcome to the sean o'connell show
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  Speaker 1: here on espn 700 and 92.1 fm coming at you
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  Speaker 1: live today from the smith's marketplace up in woods cross
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  Speaker 1: so davis county stand up would love to see some
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  Speaker 1: of you today we are set up over In the bistro,
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  Speaker 1: next to the deli, next to the sushi counter.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Dismissed Marketplace has a fresh-made daily sushi counter. Great stuff
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  Speaker 3: up here and incredible deals going on. Our friends at
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  Speaker 3: Pepsi are once again hooking us up today. We've got
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  Speaker 3: two pairs of tickets to give away to the Utah
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  Speaker 3: versus Utah State game. It does come with a small caveat.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to buy some Pepsi products. I need $ 35
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  Speaker 3: or more in Pepsi purchases. Show me the receipt, and
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  Speaker 3: we'll give you a pair of game tickets. We also
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  Speaker 3: have tailgate passes at the Smith's Tailgate. We've got Smith's
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  Speaker 3: gift cards. It is going to be a great day
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  Speaker 3: here in Woods Cross on the Sean O'Connell Show. And,
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  Speaker 3: of course, we're marching closer towards a weekend where Utah's
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  Speaker 3: got a great chance to go 3-0. We put the
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  Speaker 3: poll question out yesterday about whether or not this team
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  Speaker 3: was better, worse, or kind of equivalent to what we
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  Speaker 3: saw last year.
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  Speaker 2: 350-ish votes.
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  Speaker 3: 62% of you think that this team is better than
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  Speaker 3: last year's team. Of course, last year's team ended up
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  Speaker 3: winning 11 football games. Last year's team was 10-2 in
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  Speaker 3: the regular season. They lost only two of the eventual
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  Speaker 3: conference championship game contenders.
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  Speaker 2: Texas Tech, obviously, and BYU.
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  Speaker 3: Both of those games Especially the BYU game, I think
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  Speaker 3: a couple of plays here and there could have gone
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  Speaker 3: significantly differently. Even if you look back, if you re-watch
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  Speaker 3: that Texas Tech game, Utah had its opportunities and things
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  Speaker 3: kind of broke in the fourth quarter for Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 3: But if this team is equivalent to last year's team,
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  Speaker 3: or better like a lot of you think, then Utah
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  Speaker 3: State should not be too tough of a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Utah State should not be a test that you cannot pass.
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  Speaker 3: This one is really interesting for me because this Aggies
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  Speaker 3: squad has some warts of their own. They've got some
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  Speaker 3: things to figure out, but they've also got a couple
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  Speaker 3: of unique, I don't know if advantages is the right
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  Speaker 3: way to say it, but they've got a couple of
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  Speaker 3: unique quirks to them that could make things a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more difficult for your Utah football team. Houston, Texas
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  Speaker 3: Tech tonight on Fox, 6 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: Kickoff.
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  Speaker 3: Miami is playing Wake Forest. In an ACC matchup, both
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  Speaker 3: of those teams are 2-0, as are the Big 12
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  Speaker 3: contenders from Texas, Houston and Texas Tech. So a couple
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  Speaker 3: of good games tonight, a full slate of great games
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  Speaker 3: this weekend, a really interesting Thursday night NFL game last
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  Speaker 3: night where I think that there's a lot of overreaction
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  Speaker 3: happening right now to how bad the Lions looked. The
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  Speaker 3: Lions are down two starting safeties right now.
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  Speaker 2: And they were going against Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills are a lot of people's, at least AFC,
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  Speaker 3: favorite this year. Plenty of people's Super Bowl favorite this year.
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  Speaker 3: And it was a special occasion. It was the inaugural
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  Speaker 3: game at the brand-new Highmark Stadium in Orchard Park. There's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of reasons why that game was not going
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  Speaker 3: to go all that well for the Detroit Lions. They
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  Speaker 3: have some things to figure out defensively, certainly. They are
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  Speaker 3: a bad defensive team right now. Aiden Hutchinson is, in
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  Speaker 3: my opinion, inexcusably exhausted in this game. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if he had some kind of nagging injury or a
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  Speaker 3: surgery I'm not aware of, some sort of issue where
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  Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson was not ready to be in football shape
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  Speaker 3: coming into the football season, but man.
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  Speaker 2: He was gassed out last night.
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  Speaker 3: And I get it, he's drawn double teams and people
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  Speaker 3: are throwing everything at him and He's an effort player,
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  Speaker 3: so he's always going to push to the red line.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe he's ill? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That was not a great game for Maiden Hutchinson, and
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  Speaker 3: they need him to be great. Jack Campbell, you need
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  Speaker 3: Jack Campbell to be great. So really interesting stuff from
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  Speaker 3: that Lions-Bills game. And, look, Josh Allen is as delivered.
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  Speaker 3: And how about our boy? How about the guy, the
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  Speaker 3: former Ute, Dalton Kincaid, with another monster performance?
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  Speaker 2: He is now back-to-back week's. with some big numbers in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: And only two games so far this season, Dalton Kincaid
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  Speaker 3: leads his team.
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  Speaker 2: He leads all tight ends in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: He has 225 yards and a touchdown through two games
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  Speaker 3: on only 12 catches. He is averaging 18.8 yards per catch.
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  Speaker 3: This is Dalton Kincaid versus USC at Rice-Eccles Stadium level
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  Speaker 3: of production.
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  Speaker 2: And I tell you what, I love it. I'm here
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  Speaker 2: for it. I'm happy to see it. Even though I
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  Speaker 2: don't really root for the Bills, I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: They just rub me the wrong way, always have.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it goes back to the early days,
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  Speaker 3: the old Tecmo Bowl days or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 2: I've never been a Bills guy.
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  Speaker 3: But this Buffalo team looks like they are a force
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  Speaker 3: to be reckoned with in this 2026-2027 football season. in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, and we are off and running in college football,
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  Speaker 3: NFL football. NHL hockey is right around the corner with
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  Speaker 3: the Utah Mammoths starting practice yesterday, and the Utah Jazz
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  Speaker 3: are 33 days away from tipping off their season, which
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  Speaker 3: means we're going to start rolling back into some jazz coverage.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy Chiesa is going to start joining us again on
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  Speaker 3: the show. We're going to break down Utah versus Utah
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  Speaker 3: State today. Bill Riley joins us in about 20 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk with him.
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  Speaker 3: To the Utes about the third straight home game at
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  Speaker 3: Rice-Eccles Stadium. Morgan Scali's third game here of this 2026 season.
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  Speaker 2: What have we learned?
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  Speaker 3: What do we still need to learn about this team?
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  Speaker 3: You know what we'll talk about with Bill Riley. Lee
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  Speaker 3: Sterling is going to drop by late in the noon hour.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about the picks for the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I want to remind everyone my picks
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  Speaker 2: that I gave out last weekend. I was 5-0. All right,
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  Speaker 2: five picks on the weekend, five correct picks.
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  Speaker 3: And certainly, surely, we'll go undefeated throughout the entire season
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  Speaker 3: with the picks, right? So you've got Lee Sterling joining
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  Speaker 3: us in our number two, and then coordinator's corner, Colton Swan.
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  Speaker 3: We go into rotation, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator. We started
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  Speaker 3: week one with the D.C. Colton Swan, Colton Swan, then
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  Speaker 3: Kevin McGibbon, Colton Swan again today at 1 o'clock. And
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  Speaker 3: we're up here at the Smith's Marketplace in Woods Cross,
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  Speaker 3: 614 West, 2600 South. We've got stuff to give away,
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  Speaker 3: including the ESPN 700 taffy town packets. What I really
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  Speaker 3: need is I need people to come and get these
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  Speaker 3: things because I eat way too many of them. When
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  Speaker 3: they're sitting on the table, I invariably rip into one,
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  Speaker 3: and then I eat every piece of taffy. In each
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  Speaker 3: of those things, let's see, there's two, four, six, there's
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  Speaker 3: eight pieces of saltwater taffy in each of these, all right?
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  Speaker 3: And I end up having two or three bags, which
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  Speaker 3: is 16 to 24 pieces.
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  Speaker 2: Of saltwater taffy.
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  Speaker 3: You do the math, and you will be able to
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  Speaker 3: figure out that is not good for me to be
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  Speaker 3: doing at 43 years of age, all right?
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  Speaker 2: So get up here to 614 West, 2600 South in
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  Speaker 2: Woods Cross.
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  Speaker 3: If you buy $ 35 worth of Pepsi product, we are
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  Speaker 3: going to give you a pair of game tickets to
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  Speaker 3: Utah versus Utah State.
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  Speaker 2: Just show us your receipt. Those tickets are courtesy of
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  Speaker 2: our friends at Pepsi. Also, how about this? I didn't
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  Speaker 2: anticipate this today.
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  Speaker 3: We've got these Gatorade overtime stainless steel bottle with screw
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  Speaker 3: cap from Gatorade. A refillable water bottle situation from Gatorade.
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  Speaker 3: The screw cap is fantastic because it It can't come off.
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  Speaker 3: It's got a little retainer clip on it. So you
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  Speaker 3: unscrew that thing, and it's still attached to the bottle.
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  Speaker 3: It just kind of rotates down out of the way.
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  Speaker 3: They are Signature Gatorade Orange. It's a high-quality bottle. There's
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  Speaker 3: some heft to it. That's how you know, right? A
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  Speaker 3: lot of this swag, this giveaway stuff, is, like, real janky.
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  Speaker 3: You can tell because you pick it up, and it's
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  Speaker 3: lighter than it looks.
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  Speaker 2: This is the opposite.
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  Speaker 3: This is a high-quality piece from Gatorade. It's got some heft,
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  Speaker 3: all right? Come up here, throw up a U, say
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  Speaker 3: go Utes, and I'll chuck this thing at you, and
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  Speaker 3: you better catch it because it'll knock a tooth out
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  Speaker 3: if you don't catch it, all right?
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  Speaker 2: So we've got stuff to give away.
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  Speaker 3: Is this a Starbucks blanket? A Starbucks fold-up blanket. We
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  Speaker 3: are getting you ready for the slightly chillier weather that
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  Speaker 3: is to come here in this lovely state of ours
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  Speaker 3: as the leaves up in the high elevations are changing.
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  Speaker 3: And we had a thunderstorm last night. This morning I
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  Speaker 3: had a wonderful time riding. I took my daughter to
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  Speaker 3: school on the e-bike this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Dropped her off.
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  Speaker 3: There was a very very slight drizzle when I dropped
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  Speaker 3: her off as soon as she walked into the school
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  Speaker 3: that very slight drizzle turned into a deluge of hail
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  Speaker 3: and I was I was in shorts and a sweatshirt
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  Speaker 3: on an e-bike riding back up the hill laughing at
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  Speaker 3: myself being pelted in the face by little bits of hail. Thankfully,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like it was up in Wasatch County yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: where apparently, shout out to all you folks in Heber
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  Speaker 3: and Midway, apparently there was golf ball-sized hail ripping into
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  Speaker 3: people's trucks and cars and homes yesterday. It was just like,
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  Speaker 3: it was barely called hail this morning, and it was brief.
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  Speaker 3: But your boy was not exactly prepared from a wardrobe situation.
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  Speaker 3: or practical vehicular transport standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: Here we are. We made it. We're in Woods Cross,
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  Speaker 2: and we're excited to talk a little bit of football.
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  Speaker 2: Cade says, come on, OC.
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  Speaker 3: If the Bills love the Utes, you should love the Bills.
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  Speaker 3: They drafted a lot of our guys. They drafted three
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  Speaker 3: of the– two of the guys. It's not a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the guys.
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  Speaker 2: They drafted two.
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  Speaker 3: And because of my Weber State love, there's– They've had
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  Speaker 3: a history of giving Weber State guys a couple of
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  Speaker 3: chances in the last decade.
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  Speaker 2: Or so, too. So I'm okay with the.
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  Speaker 3: Bills, but I'm not going to jump on.
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  Speaker 2: A bandwagon now when they're really good again. That's just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: I always appreciate everyone texting in, 877-353-0700. We've got airing
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  Speaker 3: of grievances today. You can bring them in at any
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  Speaker 3: point during the show. I will read them when we
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  Speaker 3: get to the airing of grievances, and we will keep
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  Speaker 3: talking about this Utah versus Utah State matchup, which.
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  Speaker 2: I want to dive into now.
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  Speaker 3: It's a really interesting spot for Utah to find themselves.
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  Speaker 3: You're going up against a Utah State team that in
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  Speaker 3: two games has shown really two versions of itself. Utah
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  Speaker 3: State in their first week of the season was inexcusably
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  Speaker 3: embarrassingly bad. And you look at what happened against Idaho State,
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  Speaker 3: a middling Big Sky team, 29-17 loss for the Aggies
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  Speaker 3: in that game. And a lot of that is directly
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  Speaker 3: translated to interceptions, to turnovers. McKay Hillstead in that game
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  Speaker 3: threw three interceptions. Not giving yourself the right opportunities here.
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  Speaker 2: As an Aggie offense.
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  Speaker 3: Late in the game, they started going to Grady Brosterhaus.
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  Speaker 3: Grady Brosterhaus, I believe, is going to be the starting
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  Speaker 3: quarterback here. against the University of Utah. He started week
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  Speaker 3: two against the Washington Huskies. He went 17-28, 196 yards
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  Speaker 3: and two interceptions. He did also turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 3: This is a problem for Utah State, and we have
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  Speaker 3: been calling for this with the.
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  Speaker 2: University of Utah.
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  Speaker 3: I spent 30 minutes on the show yesterday ranting, raving,
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  Speaker 3: begging for the guys that are almost there, that are
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  Speaker 3: a a half step away or a better hand position
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  Speaker 3: away or getting your head around a little bit faster away.
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  Speaker 2: I've been begging for those guys to not only be there.
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  Speaker 3: And in the position to make the play, but to
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  Speaker 3: be the finisher, to make the play, to come down
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  Speaker 3: with the interception, to force the fumble, to get the sack.
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  Speaker 2: Utah State, the Utah State offense.
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  Speaker 3: Has shown us in the last couple of weeks that
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  Speaker 3: they are the type of team that you can exploit
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  Speaker 3: some things and you can get over that hump against
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  Speaker 3: the Aggies. Because the Idaho State Bengals did it, the
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  Speaker 3: Washington Huskies did it, and the Huskies, they better be
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  Speaker 3: glad that they did because this was a very, very
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  Speaker 3: close game against Washington.
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  Speaker 2: 16-14 the final in that one.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously would have been a massive turnaround upset win for
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  Speaker 3: Utah State had they been able to pull it out.
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  Speaker 3: Ultimately Washington escapes by the skin of their teeth. And
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't a bad game, really, for the Washington Huskies,
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  Speaker 3: except for something that Utah's going to have to be
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  Speaker 3: wary of.
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  Speaker 2: They were not able to run the ball.
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  Speaker 3: 33 carries for 107 yards for Washington. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: Washington is as good in their running back room as
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  Speaker 3: Utah is. I think that Washington, they have more experience
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  Speaker 3: returning on their offensive line. I'm not in love with
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  Speaker 3: the Washington offensive line, the very, very little that I've
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  Speaker 3: seen of it. But Washington only was able to put 3.2
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  Speaker 3: yards per carry on the board against this Utah State
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  Speaker 3: Aggie defense. This Aggie team is Dr. Jekyll and Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Hyde on the same team. On one side of the ball,
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  Speaker 3: they are Missing Kevin McGibbon, we'll say that. On the
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  Speaker 3: other side of the ball, Nick Howell and Jan Jorgensen
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  Speaker 3: and all the guys over there, Frank Miley, all those
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  Speaker 3: guys are doing a really excellent job of stopping the
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  Speaker 3: run for Utah State. They gave up less than four
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  Speaker 3: yards of carry to Idaho State. They gave up just
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  Speaker 3: over three yards of carry to Washington. This is where
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  Speaker 3: A big portion of the game is going to be
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  Speaker 3: decided at Rice-Eccles Stadium tomorrow afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: And my sincere hope is, because this is.
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  Speaker 3: Utah State, all right, my real hope is that you
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  Speaker 3: could scheme around this, right? You could play your strength
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  Speaker 3: against their weakness. You could say, all right, cool, good
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  Speaker 3: luck to everyone who wants to run the ball on
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  Speaker 3: this Utah State team. I am going to let Devin
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  Speaker 3: Dampier and Bird Ficklin and who knows who else gets
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  Speaker 3: to throw a pass in this game three. But we're
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  Speaker 3: going to get some quick routes going. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: get the ball out of the hand fast, and we're
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  Speaker 3: going to run and shoot, and we're going to gun our.
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  Speaker 2: Way up and down the field.
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  Speaker 3: And I, Kevin McGibbon, the Utah offensive coordinator, am just
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  Speaker 3: going to scheme away from the defensive strength of Utah State.
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  Speaker 2: I support that. I think that's great.
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  Speaker 3: I want it to be the case in, like, the
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  Speaker 3: first two quarters of football. But at some point in
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  Speaker 3: this game, I want Utah to be able to pin
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  Speaker 3: the ears back and say, all right, let's make sure
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  Speaker 3: that we are capable of doing this. Against a team
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  Speaker 3: that has demonstrated some ability to stop the run, let's
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  Speaker 3: go ahead and impose our will and let's run on
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  Speaker 3: these guys. Not to the detriment of success in the game,
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  Speaker 3: not to, like, excessively prove a point to where you're
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  Speaker 3: hurting yourself and you're not maximizing your scoring opportunities. You're
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  Speaker 3: not setting yourself up for success. You're not letting Utah
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  Speaker 3: State hang around too long. Personnel-wise, they don't have anything
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  Speaker 3: that should be able to hang with the University of Utah. Defensively,
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  Speaker 3: they got some guys, but even their best guys are
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  Speaker 3: not equivalent to Utah's best guys.
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  Speaker 2: They're just not.
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  Speaker 3: That's the way That new Pac-12, the reconstructed Pac-12, is
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  Speaker 3: like a high-mid major, if it's fair to call them that.
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  Speaker 3: That's the way the personnel is going to be. Harrison
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  Speaker 3: Taggart is now with the Utah State Aggies. This is
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  Speaker 3: Harrison Taggart's, what, third school, fourth school maybe? Former Oregon Duck,
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  Speaker 3: former Corner Canyon. Corner Canyon Charger, then went to Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: I believe, then back to BYU. Now he's at Utah State. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's kind of a headline name on that defense.
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  Speaker 3: He's got four tackles through a couple of games so far. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's a great athlete. He's a speedster. You're
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  Speaker 3: not going to find a lot of guys that play
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  Speaker 3: the linebacker position in college football that on a flat-out
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  Speaker 3: open field can sprint as fast as he can, but...
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  Speaker 3: There's a reason why he's at Utah State and why
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  Speaker 3: he didn't stick the way that he wanted to in
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  Speaker 3: the previous stops. So we're looking at a situation where
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  Speaker 3: the University of Utah has a big opportunity to maybe
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  Speaker 3: jump out to a bit of a lead here, get
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  Speaker 3: the passing game going a little bit, push through a
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  Speaker 3: touchdown or two, and then show us, show everybody that
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  Speaker 3: there's offensive balance and you can run.
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  Speaker 2: The football here. On Utah State. Go Utes. Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: We got our first visitor of the day throwing up
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  Speaker 2: a Go Utes. Collecting some prizes, I hope.
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  Speaker 3: I want to make sure everyone who knows, when I'm
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  Speaker 3: ranting and raving, I do want to.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to everyone who comes up here.
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  Speaker 3: But when I'm in the middle of a rant, I
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  Speaker 3: got to stay, try not to let myself get too
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  Speaker 3: distracted on the air here. But 614 West, 2600.
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  Speaker 2: South in Woods Cross. Am I asking too much? If
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I say, I don't just want Utah to win.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I want Utah to show us in this win that
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: they can run the ball against the stout run defense.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Is it asking to, am I nitpicking to a level
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: now where I've let my feel-goods from the first two
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: weeks create greed, create a situation where I'm not being realistic?
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I feel like no. I feel like This is the
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: type of game, because you have a personnel advantage, because
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: you have an athleticism, size, speed advantage, when you talk
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: about 11 versus 11, that you should be able to
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: lean on it a little bit.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Again, not just.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: for the sole purpose of proving a point but kind
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: of a little bit so that you can prove that
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: point if not to anybody else than just to yourself
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: just to your fan base that what we think about
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: you is the truth The flip side of that is
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: you have like a massive passing day potentially against Utah State.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Easier said than done. And then what?
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: And then we wonder for another week or two if
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: your running offense is as potent as we think it is.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I might be getting greedy here. Utah State, by the way,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: in a reconstructed Pac-12, the top run defense and the
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: second best passing defense.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: They're only getting.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: They're only giving up five yards per attempt in the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: passing game as well. And Washington thinks pretty highly of
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: their quarterback and thinks pretty highly of their wide receiver court.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Weren't able to do anything from a scoring perspective, at least.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Utah State's only given up a touchdown in the air
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: so far. They're right behind Colorado State, who, of course,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: is a BYU opponent. Colorado State has intercepted their opponents
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: five times.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Already this year.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say upset alert because I think
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: the Cougs are pretty darn good, but that's not going
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: to be easy either.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: 877-353-0700.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Always love to hear from you on the text line,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: at RealOCSports on Twitter as well.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Spencer was.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Need clarification on how you go and get those Utah
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: State tickets, O.C., speaking of the text line.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: Uh-huh.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Come to Smith's in Woods Cross.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Stock up on the drinks for the weekend, for the barbecue,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you know, just for the storage room, for the tailgate, whatever.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: If you can show me.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: $ 35 or more in purchases of Pepsi products, we will
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: give you a pair of tickets.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I just need a Smith's receipt that says.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I was stocking up, and you've got to remember, like,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Pepsi products, that's a pretty extensive list. It's not just Pepsi.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: We know that this is a Diet Coke state. We
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: know this is a Coke state in general. The umbrella
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: of products that qualify here is, like, the Starbucks drinks
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: that are, like, the prepackaged ones, the Pepsi products, the Dr.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Peppers, the Gatorades.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: The Rockstar Energies, that kind of stuff.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And, you know, it's your boy. It's me. It's OC.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: So if you are at, like, $ 30 worth of Pepsi
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: and $ 10 worth of burgers, you know I'm going to, yeah,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: all right. But we've only got two pairs of tickets
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: to give away. So if you want to see them,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: you've got to get out here, 614 West, 2600 South,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: in Woods Cross. 877-353-0700 is how you always get a
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: hold of us.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like I would be remiss also.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I know that we want to focus a lot on
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: a football Friday, on a game week. We want to
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: focus a lot on previewing Utah versus Utah State, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: we will do that with Bill Riley here in just
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: a few minutes. But I also, it's worthy of putting
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: in the opening segment of a show because it's big
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: news for the local market. Keontae George and the Utah
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Jazz have agreed to a five-year, $ 157. 5 million extension with
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz. And I've seen the reaction to it
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: rolling through Twitter and all those things this morning. And
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: something that's really fascinating to me is that– When you
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: look at Keontae George's actual production and take out, as
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: some of these analytic sites are able to do, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: they take out, they kind of remove the tanking factor
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: from the Utah Jazz, that this is a contract kind
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: of right in the exact realm that he's supposed to
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: be from a numbers and a production standpoint.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: And I know that there's a lot of.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Confidence already in the front office and what the Utah
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Jazz does. have been able to do from the personnel
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: and roster construction perspective. A lot of people really believe
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: in the Anges. This is a five-year deal worth about
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: $ 31 million, $ 31. 5 million per year for Keontae George. And
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I looked at a bunch of these analytics breakdowns and
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: what these formulaic things basically spit out is that he's
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: a $ 27 million to $ 35 million a year player based
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: on his production, based on his numbers. So the fact
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: that the Utah Jazz got this extension done at 16-ish
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: percent of their cap is.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's a great move.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I think if you paid 20% or more of your
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: cap for Keontae George, people would start to look at
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: you with a bit of a side eye. We might
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: start to question, even if market prices dictated that, whether
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: it was going to be worth it for the Utah Jazz.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I think this spot... is kind of exactly where he
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: needs to.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Be, 23.6 points and 6.1 assists on 45% shooting and
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: 37% from three-point range last year. Most importantly, this Utah
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Jazz front office, I think, envisions Keontae George and Darren
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Peterson being Batman and Robin, a dynamic duo, a, dare
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I say, Devin Dampier and Bird Ficklin on the basketball floor, right?
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Their own little half-dollar situation.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: So big news from the Utah Jazz perspective, and congratulations
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: to Keontae George. It's always really interesting to see this
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: when you've got guys that, you know, have kind of like.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Done a little bit of grinding.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: They've improved, they've improved, they've improved, and now, you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: the 16th pick of the 2023 draft is has become
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: a cornerstone piece or part of the core for this
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Utah Jazz franchise as they get ready to turn the
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: page and actually try to compete. 16% of the salary cap,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: by the way, is a bargain when you look at
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: some of the other guards and some of the other
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: guards with similar production in the league.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I will never put.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Steph Curry and Keontae George in the same sentence from
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: a skills or accomplishments comparison standpoint. But for the sake
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: of the math nicks out there, for the sake of
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: the numbers guys and gals out there, Steph Curry is
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: like 40% of the Warriors.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Salary cap.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: And Keontae George, he's no Steph Curry, but you can
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: spend insane amounts of money on one single player. Other
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: teams have to do that. Jokic is a big, he's
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: 35% of the Nuggets salary cap. Keontae George coming in
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: at 16% as a guy who's like eventually probably going
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: to be the fourth best player, the third best player
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: in your starting lineup.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: It's the right spot.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: So credit to the Angels, credit to Keontae and his
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: agents for getting this done in a way that I
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: think facilitates success for the Utah Jazz moving forward. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: we'll have Gordie Chiesa on in the next couple weeks.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about it with people. who are a little
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: bit more dialed in on the basketball front. But big
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: news for the Utah Jazz as we get ready for
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Utah football game week as well. The Utah Mammoth are
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: about to start, and they've got all these good... This
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: might be something that when we get five, ten years
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: down the line, and the Smith Entertainment Group has ownership
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: in the Utah Mammoth and in the Utah Jazz, and
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: hopefully both of those franchises Most of those franchises show
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: us some success on the floor, on the ice, start
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: winning something meaningful. Part of the story that we're going
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: to tell there is the contracts. Because the Jazz don't have,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: as far as I can tell, they don't have a
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: bad contract on the roster.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Not a really bad one. We'll find out how good
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the Jaron Jackson Jr. spend is.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: We'll find out if we maybe see a little overpayment
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: for Lowry Markkinen health-wise. But there's not a bad contract
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: on this Utah Jazz roster right now, and there's the
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: exact opposite on the Mammoth front as far as we
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: can tell.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of really excellent players on bargain deals.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: So if these two franchises have the kind of success
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: that I think they can have, we're going to be
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: talking about the fact that the ownership group and by
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: extension the general managers in both franchises and the power
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: players in the front office of both franchises have done
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: an excellent job of salary cap management.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I hope that's the story we're telling at least. Bargain hunting.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a huge part of building championship teams that
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: just doesn't get talked about probably enough is you have
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: to balance that salary cap, especially in a hard cap
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: league like the NHL and in the NBA, not a
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: hard cap, but you've got those luxury tax aprons that
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: kind of act as a pseudo hard cap. So It's
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: a very important thing to do, and so far it
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: looks like Danny Ainge and company and Austin Ainge and
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: company for the Utah Jazz are doing that really well,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: and Bill Armstrong. and company are doing that really well
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: for the Mammoth one thought on Keontae George my only
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: concern about this is long term long term does Keontae
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: George settle into because I still see a world where
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: he settles into a six-man role not a starting point
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: guard role that still remains to be seen And I
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: know you look at the great production he had last year.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: You take out the fact that they were tanking.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: He's among some of the best point guards and some
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: of the best guards in the league from a production standpoint.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: But the problem is you can't really take out the
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: fact that they were tanking. You have to see guys
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: prove their mettle. They prove their worth when they're trying
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: to win games, right, when the team's trying to win games.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: So I think that remains to be seen.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I hope that he ends up being a starting point guard,
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: but he may just end up settling into a super
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: six man role.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of money to pay a guy in
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: that role.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: The other side of that coin though, OC is if
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: the salary cap keeps going up, the fact that they
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: signed him now to this deal, that's going to be
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: less and less percentage of the cap. So if he
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: does end up having a smaller role than he has
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: right now, like I still could see happening. He's also
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: going to be paid less percentage of the cap if
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: the salary cap keeps growing. So I think that it
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: could work out either way. Right now it does seem
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: like a great deal.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700, anything you want to talk about today, bring it
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: to the table. We're going to take a quick one
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: here at Smith's, and we're going to come back with
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: the voice of the Utes, Bill Riley, on ESPN 700
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: and 92.1 FM.
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: You're tuned to The Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Coming at you from Smith's in Woods Cross. This is
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: the Smith's Marketplace.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: 614 West, 2600 South in Woods Cross.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: We have.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Tailgate passes to give away, Smith's gift cards to give away.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: And if you come up and you stock up for
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: the weekend on some Pepsi products, $ 35 or more in
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Pepsi product purchases, show me the receipt. We'll have a
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: pair of tickets to give away. We actually have two
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: separate pairs of tickets. We'll only give you one.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: With the thirty five dollar purchase but.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: That means two people can come in and buy some
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: pepsi or pepsi products and get themselves some utah state
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: versus utah tickets our next guest will be calling the
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: game in the booth at rice echoes stadium bill riley
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the voice of the youths joins us.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Bill how are you john i'm great how are you
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: i'm doing awesome and it's uh.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: it's another great weekend another great weekend of football coming
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: up had a fun Thursday night game for once in
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: the NFL. Nothing to complain about. I'm trying to figure
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: out how scared we should be.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Scared is the wrong term.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: But how worried we should be about the Utah State
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Aggies because they looked awful in week one.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: They looked better in week.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Two, ultimately in a losing effort to Washington. And obviously,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: you know, there's some like it's the Battle of the
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Brothers for a reason. And there's some familiarity between coaching staffs.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: And the Utah State guys, a lot of them wish
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: they were at Utah, so they give it the best
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: shot every year. So, like, if we want to rate
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: this thing in terms of difficulty, what is the correct
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: place to put Utah State as a test for these Utes?
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: Well, I think it'll be their best test of the
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: year so far. I don't think Utah State's more talented
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: than Arkansas.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: But I think they're better coached.
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: I think there's a culture in place, and I think
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: they'll play hard. I didn't get the sense Arkansas played
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: very hard last week. So I think this will be,
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: of the three games we've seen to this point, it
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: will be an opponent that plays hardest and is probably
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: best organized. What that means over four quarters I don't
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: think necessarily is going to bode well for the Aggies.
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: I think Utah's the better team by a long shot.
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: but I think that this game will be more competitive
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: for longer than the first two were. I asked yesterday,
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: based on a two-game sample size, if people felt like,
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: and of course it's still a guessing game, but if
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: people felt like this year's team had shown us that
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: they are better than last year's squad, kind of equivalent to,
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: or maybe not quite as good as last year's team,
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: because you had very similar matchups. You had kind of
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: a lower end of a major power conference opponent, Last
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: year it was UCLA.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: This year it was Arkansas. The final score was the
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: exact same in those two games. You had a big
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: sky opponent, very similar scores and very similar production in
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: those things. So it's kind of an eyeball test. But
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: if I ask you to answer that question, do you
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: come out on they're better than last year, they're not
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: quite as good as last year, or they're probably a
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: rough equivalent?
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: It's funny you say that because I was sitting here
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: having breakfast with my Uncle Patrick this morning, and he
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: asked me the exact same question. He's like, is this
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: team better than last year's team? And I said, I
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: don't know. It seems pretty similar right now. I feel
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: like their offensive ceiling is much higher for some reason
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: this year, Sean.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: I think second year of.
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: Dampier, more offensive weapons, maybe a little bit more creativity
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: in the play calling. I feel like the offensive ceiling
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: is higher, but I don't think they've hit that ceiling yet.
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: And remember last year they were really good against UCLA
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: in the opener and really pretty good in the second
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: game too.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: So defensively, I.
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: Still think they're kind of figuring some things out, but
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: I think it's about the same. So I don't know
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: that they're better or worse yet than last year, but
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: I feel like at least on one side of the ball,
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: especially on the offensive side of the ball, I think
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: they've got a higher ceiling potentially than they did last year.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Does that make sense?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: It makes sense.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: And actually, again, it's only a two-game sample size, but
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: the numbers– kind of tell the same story that maybe
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: this year could be even more offensively potent. I think
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: the passing game is definitely going to be better than
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: it was last year.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: We'll find out. And I think this.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Weekend is important to find out how good the run
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: game will end up being because if the Aggies are
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: good at anything right now, what they're good at is
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: stopping the run.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: They're giving up three.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Four yards a carry to teams like Washington and, of course,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Idaho State. And I was ranting in the first segment
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: about how I would like to see Utah, if you
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: can get a couple of scores on the board, just
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: go out there and establish the run. Prove that point.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Do what you've got to do to push around the Aggies.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I know that I don't think about games the same
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: way that Kevin McGibbon and Morgan Scali do, but is
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: this a game where you can kind of silence some
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: doubt or answer some questions you might have in your
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: own building about how potent the run game and the
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: run blocking is because the Aggies are good in that
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: part of this game.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they are.
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: They're number one in the new Pac-12 against the run.
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: They've only given up, I think, about 95 yards a
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: game right now. Again, I'm not sure what that means.
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: I know they did pretty well last week against a
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: good Washington team and bottled up DeMond Williams pretty good. But, yeah,
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: if you want to test your run game through three games,
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: this is probably the team to do it against. And
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: you know Bronco Mendenhall teams are always going to be well-organized.
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: You know they're going to play hard, run to the ball.
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: And so far through two games, they've done well against
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: the run. So if you want to test that offensive
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: line after three games, which should be close to having
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: their five guys together, you want to see what Wayshon
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: Parker can do and Daniel Bray can do and Steven
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: Chavez-Soto and Bird Ficklin and Devin Dampier on the ground,
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: this might be a pretty good test. But again, here's
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: what I'll say. when I've talked to Kevin McGivitt a
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: bunch this year, and even Morgan Scali, too, they've not
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: been committal to, we're going to run it 55% of
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: the time and pass it here. They're going to be like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: we're going to do what.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: The defense gives us.
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: And if the defense is soft against the pass, and
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: we feel like we can air it out, we're going
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: to air it out. And maybe we see them really
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: run it in the second half if they get a
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: good lead. But your point is good if you really
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: want to test your– your run game out against what's
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: probably the best run defense you've seen so far, tomorrow
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: will be the chance to do it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Did we learn anything about Utah against Arkansas that we
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: didn't already think or know based on what we saw
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  Speaker 3: from Idaho?
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: I think what we did see, though, is both the
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: offensive and defensive fronts took another step. Hard to measure
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: yourself against a 1AA team that's middle of the pack
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: in their conference. But Arkansas was big up front, offensively
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: and defensively. And I thought Utah did a good job
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: both running the football when they had to, but also
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: pass protecting too and getting after it. I thought last
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: week they were better up front, you know, getting after,
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: you know, K.J.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Jackson in that.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: Arkansas offense than they were the week before. So I
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: don't know that we learned anything more, but I do
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: think we saw both the offensive and defensive line take
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: another step.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I've asked Kevin McGiven and Devin Dampier how deep in
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: the bag this offense is going so far because we're
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: seeing some really insane creativity, stuff that other programs would
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: run as maybe like a once-in-a-season gadget play. We've seen
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: like four or five of those already in two games against,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: let's face it, opponents that you don't necessarily– need to
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: empty the clip against. And in both cases, both Coach
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: McGiven and Devin Dampier.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Kind of laughed and said, oh, we're not even deep
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: in the bag yet.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're 200-plus plays into a playbook, and we've
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: only run 60 of them so far. So I don't
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: know if we can expect it to get even more unorthodox,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: even more insane, even more creative. But it seems like
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: there's a possibility that the mad science can continue.
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, McGiven just seems to always have a smile on
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: his face these days. And I think that he knows
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: that he's got a lot of great weapons at his
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: disposal and he can get creative with formations. And when
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: you've got two quarterbacks that have the ability to do
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: what Ficklin and Dampier do and to be able to
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: line them up together and use them both as weapons
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: in both the pass game and the run game, that
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: gives you a lot of options. And the other thing is, too,
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: they're not reliant on one particular guy, one particular player
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: to really lean on it. They're not reliant on Ray
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: Sean Parker to have 25 carries a game. They can
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: spread those around. What's always interesting to me is, at
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: least through two games, who's the guy today? Like week one, Brayden.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Pagan had a huge game.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: He had the catches.
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: They ran the ball. And last week, he didn't have
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: a lot. Maybe it's Hunter Andrews. Maybe it's Daniel Bray.
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: Maybe we see a breakout game from Kyrie Scholes or
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: Ricky Johnson. I just think there's a lot of different
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: ways that McGiven can go. We know that it's going
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: to be Dampier and probably Ficklin and Parker in that
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: run game, but in the pass game and in the
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: gadget game, he's got a lot of different ways he
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: can go.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned Way, Sean.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: We had a really productive game again last week, but
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: it was on 15 touches, and Ten of those came
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: in the run game. Are we going to get to
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: a point where he's treated like a bell cow back
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: when it comes to, you know, we're going to hand
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: the ball to you or we're going to pitch the
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: ball to you a couple dozen times a game? Do
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: you think that what we're seeing from Weishan is kind
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: of the workload and the game plan that we should
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: expect almost all year from Weishan?
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: I think Weishan's number is probably going to be somewhere
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: in the neighborhood of 17 to 20 touches a game.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: Maybe that's going to be 15 rushes and five catches,
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: or maybe it's going to be 17 rushes and three catches,
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: or maybe it's going to be six catches. But I
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: think somewhere, I just, again, go back to it so often, John.
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: He is running back, one, there's no doubt about it.
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: But because there's so many other guys that they're going
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: to have the ability to get the ball to, I
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: don't know that we're going to see consistently 25 touches.
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: Maybe there's a game where we have that. But I
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: think that number for him, and he'll be the leading guy.
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: Nobody else will get more touches, I don't think, than
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: him per game. But I think probably in that 17
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: to 20 touch per game range for him, if that
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: makes sense.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if they're ever going to get to
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: a point where they feel like they need more out
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: of him.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: We're not there yet.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: And it's great if you can keep a workload a
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: little bit lighter for someone who's that important. I will
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: ask you a similar question about, Touch distribution, opportunity distribution
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: between Devin Dampier and Bird Ficklin. Assuming full health as
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: we do, I'll knock on wood when I say it,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: for both guys is this mix of like they're on
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: the field together, ten snaps a game, and one of
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: them is off on the sideline and the other is on.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe Bird is there by himself, five snaps a game.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: More or less of Bird, I guess, do you anticipate
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: as the season rolls on?
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: I think we're going to kind of see what we've seen.
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: I just think he's too good a weapon, Sean, not
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: to utilize him. And he wants to play football, too.
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: He doesn't want to stand on the sideline and wait
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: for something to happen. Anyway, I think you're going to
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: see him utilized. Now, he's going to be a decoy sometimes, too.
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: He's going to be a guy that you have to
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: account for because he's so good. But I think you're
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: going to see him out there on the field sometimes
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: in that same range where he's been out there most
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: of the year. And if he's effective with it, maybe
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: he's out there a little bit more. I think this
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: team right now is about winning football games. I think
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: having Bird Ficklin on the field, in whatever role that
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: might happen to be, helps them win football games.
• 43:53
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  Speaker 3: Should we feel any type of concern at all that
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: the defensive ends are not putting up sack numbers yet?
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: No, I don't think so yet because they did a
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: good job last week getting pressures, batting down passes.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: K.J.
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: Jackson was doing a lot of three-step out of the
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: shotgun last week. But at some point in time, you
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: want to see Cash Dillon and Ethan Day and Lance
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: Holtzclaw and Paul Fitzgerald get home. I mean, your sacks
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: right now, your defensive tackles in Carson Kapusi and Jai
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: Mo have more sacks than your defensive ends do right now.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: So I think that's.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: Probably not sustainable over the course of a season. So
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: you'd probably like to see those guys get on board.
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: But when I've talked to Scali a little bit about it,
• 44:49
  Speaker 8: he's felt good about the pressures they've been able to
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: get the defensive end.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: But I think maybe this.
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: Would be a week you'd like to see one of
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: those guys get home and get a quarterback down to
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: the ground.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know how many almost interceptions you called in
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: the game last week. I think I counted three that
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: should have been caught by you. Obviously, Jackson Benny got
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: the one. There's probably not even a real question here
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: because you just have to make that play when it's
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: available to you. Benny has kind of established himself as
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: a guy that is more than likely going to come
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: up with those balls, although he.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Dropped one last year.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Who else, Bill, can you see becoming that guy that
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: is the sort of havoc player, is the Gianni Paul,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: the Chase Hanson, the home run hitter?
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: Well, Havoc player, I think John O'Hall has a really
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: good chance.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: To be that guy.
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: He's just so athletic and he's so around it all
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: the time. Benny, obviously, as you mentioned, could be that guy.
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: And another guy for me, and I think I told
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: you we were talking about breakout players this year, I
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: think Rabbit Evans. has a great chance to be that
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: Havoc-type guy too because he's really good at coming downhill
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: and making plays. I thought Nate Ritchie may have had
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: his best game as a Ute last weekend. I think
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: you can take your pick of anybody in that safety
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: room of being those guys. I'm still kind of waiting
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: to see. which of the defensive ends he emerges, because
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: you'd like to have one of those guys be a
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: havoc guy for you. You'd like to have one guy
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: on each level, right? You'd like to have a defensive
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: end and or tackle. You'd like to have one of
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: your backers and one of your safeties or corners. Well,
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: we know the safety room, any one of those guys
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: could be that guy. Maybe it's John O'Hall, maybe it's
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: Trey Reynolds, but I want to see which one of
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: those DNs Or maybe it's Carson Kapusi plays the role
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: that Starlo Tulele used to play, being a havoc player
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: from the middle of that defense. But for me right now,
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: I think Paul and Evans are two guys, along with Benny,
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: who could emerge in that position.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: You like what you saw from your Chiefs the other night?
• 46:57
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• 46:58
  Speaker 8: I like the idea of running the football and taking
• 47:01
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• 47:04
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• 47:08
  Speaker 8: that young defense. You know, they traded away McDuffie. They
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: let Watson walk. They had another good draft. It looks
• 47:15
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• 47:19
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• 47:22
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• 47:23
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• 47:29
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• 47:31
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• 47:34
  Speaker 8: runs it a little bit and Mahomes knocks off the rust.
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• 51:03
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• 51:06
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• 51:10
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• 51:17
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• 53:22
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• 53:25
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know if it makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: For Lane Kiffin to risk something like that given the
• 53:35
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• 53:38
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• 53:42
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  Speaker 5: If he's doing stuff like that, OC, he's got way
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: bigger problems than the little.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Some of them, I guess, not so minor controversies.
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: But in comparison, minor controversies that have happened in the
• 54:13
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• 54:15
  Speaker 4: He's doing that.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: He's got way bigger problems. And that would be quite
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: the thing to do for Lane Kiffin.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not even.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure... I think he's capable of a lot
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: of things. I'm not sure he's doing something like that.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, right, is there's no way to prove,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: especially when the quarterback is limited in practice. Like, if
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: the quarterback is a full go and there's somebody at
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: practice who knows that or somebody at practice who takes
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: a video of that or a photo of that or whatever,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: and then you put conflicting information on an official injury report,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: now we're talking about cooking with gas here. Now there's
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: a little smoke and potentially fire involved. on an accusation
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: like that. When you're just talking about, oh, guess what? Look,
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: this is a guy who was limited in practice. And
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think Lane Kiffin was ever doubting that Sam
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Levitt would play in this game. I don't think if
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: we got him under some truth serum in a hot light,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: you put him in the interrogation, I don't think he
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: would say, yeah, I was worried he wouldn't be able
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: to start this week. I think that he enjoys the gamesmanship.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: He enjoys the drama. I don't think he enjoys it
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: for the sake of helping bettors out one way or another.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: But he has shown in interviews in the past that he's,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: you know, at least cynically aware of bettors and of
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: betting patterns, right? Because he has mentioned in the past, like,
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: you know, when they cover or they don't cover, like, oh, that'll...
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: That'll make the gamblers happy or something like that.
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: It's true.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that, by the way, in my opinion. Like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: for these college coaches to pretend they don't know what
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: the line is on their game or these college coaches
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: to pretend that they don't know that there's millions and
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: billions of dollars involved in sports gambling or to say
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: that they're above it or whatever, that's, like, it's, when
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: they claim ignorance, that bothers me because it's disingenuous. I
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: don't mind when Lane Kiffin, like, throws a little mention
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: out there because he's just being, like, a little bit
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: more real than a lot of coaches are willing to be.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just don't participate is the line.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: And I think, like, the participation thing, it's just, from
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: a risk standpoint, it makes no sense, right?
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin is making.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: What, like $ 11 million a year from LSU? He's not
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: going to jeopardize that in order to keep some, like,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: booster who throws a few bets down happy you're just
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: not going to do that the only way that you
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: would ever get yourself into that kind of trouble is
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: in the old days of nefarious betting if he had
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: a gambling debt of his own and organized crime and
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: all those people were so heavily involved in it back
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: then that you kind of like you kind of had
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: to allow for every possibility when when it came to
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: manipulation of lines and things like that but uh if
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: if we have learned anything from the prevalence of legal
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: sports gambling now is that the watchdog agencies are so
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: on top of all of these things that anything that
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: is even close to a regular gets flagged and everything
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: gets investigated.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I don't gamble myself.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not like an every week kind of guy or
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: every game kind of guy the way that some people are.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: I'm far from being a degenerate.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: I don't mind throwing a pick out there or throwing
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: a couple guesses out of what might happen from a
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: week to another week.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: The legalization of gambling, the ubiquitous nature of sports gambling,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: while it might not be good for a lot of
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: people's personal finances and people's personal well-being from a financial
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: stability standpoint, it does improve regulation of gambling. And the
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: conspiracy is kind of fun and silly. I don't think
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of merit to it.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: You're right on. The reality is it's gamesmanship. We saw
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: this with one of the ill-fated seasons. 2023, last season
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: in the Pac-12, Witt had Cam warm up like he
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: was going to play against UCLA just to get UCLA rattled,
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: just to get them going, oh my gosh, Cam's going
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: to play, and then completely change their game plan which
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure that exactly happened, but it certainly made
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: them scramble a little bit and maybe gave the Utes
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: a little bit of an advantage in that game, helped
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: them win. This is the same kind of idea with
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: just using the injury report designation, just giving his former team,
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: Ole Miss, something to think about. Oh, hey, maybe Sam's
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: not going to play. What are you going to do?
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: Are you going to relax? Which, of course, they're not
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: going to, but you try to get any kind of
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: advantages that you can.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: Including this kind of gamesmanship.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Alright, we're at the end of hour number one here
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: at Smith's. We have plenty of stuff still left to
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: give away. I did see one person come in. Looks
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: like he's going to get his Pepsi products. He's going
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: to come back. He stopped by. We're over by the
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: sushi counter. We're in the bistro area of the Smith's Marketplace.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Come in, throw up a Go Utes. We'll give you
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: a tailgate pass. We'll give you a Smith's gift card.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: And if you want to.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Go buy $ 35 or.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: More of Pepsi products, we will give you a pair
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: of tickets to Utah versus Utah State. We had someone
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: come by and verify that we still have tickets available,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: and he's shopping right now. So I think he's probably
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: going to beat you to at least one pair of tickets,
• 59:29
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• 1:00:07
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• 1:00:09
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  Speaker 3: James, what does the leaderboard look like from the Biltmore Championship?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: Neil Shipley is your leader, tied at the top. at
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: nine under you, you knew it. You knew Neil Shipley.
• 1:00:35
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• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: I was saying, this is Shipley's day, man.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: This is Shipley's day.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: He's tied at the top with Ricky Castillo, who, you know,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: I incidentally was like, no, I think it's Ricky.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: I guess we're both right. Oh, see, um, third is
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: Eric Cole.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: He is at three under he's tied now, now moved
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: into a tie for third. This is just say updated
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: things with Ben Coles. Um, at three under Seamus power.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: And let's see, Jacob Bridgman are in a group that
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: kind of round out the top 10 at four under
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: tied for fourth at the Biltmore championship OC. So a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: fairly significant lead for Shipley and Castillo right now. They,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, Shipley, I mean, you nailed it. OC he's
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: 15 under for the tournament. He was, he was nine under, uh, in,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: in round two alone. So, uh, incredible, incredible day for him.
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• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: NFL season is in full swing. We've got a Sunday
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: night football game coming up a Sunday night. The premier
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: matchup is going to be the Kansas City Chiefs and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts. 6-20 Mountain Time kickoff on NBC.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: Only premier teams play on Sunday, just saying. That definitely
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: describes the Colts.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, am I allowed to call
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: that a premier matchup if the Colts are involved?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, I want to say Daniel Jones, another we've
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: been talking about with the likes of John Henry Daly
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: and the college ranks, former Ute, obviously, having a miraculous–
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: Speedy recovery from an Achilles tear. I believe Daniel Jones
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: had an Achilles tear around the same time as John
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: Henry Daly, and he also started week one.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: It could have been an ACL or something.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: Either way, it seemed like a really fast recovery for
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: Daniel Jones, just like we've been talking about with JHD
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: in college. And that gave me some, with the way
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: Indiana Jones performed last year healthy, it gave me some like, okay,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: maybe the Colts will start out as well as they
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: did last year and finish the season better.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: But I don't know. They got destroyed by the Ravens.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: So I don't know.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Well, there are people who believe that the Ravens are
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: ready for a vintage Ravens year and potentially. So, look,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: it's really interesting the way that this is done in
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: the NFL because I think people feel, that the knowledge
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: carryover from an NFL season to the next NFL season
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: is a lot more significant than what you have in
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: college football. And because of that, I think that there
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: are a lot of people who are ready to crown
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: or curse a team after week one in the NFL,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: definitely more so than college football.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: We allow for so much.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Wiggle room when it comes to the college football thing where,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, everybody, even the people who love to make
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: blanket statements and love to make concrete statements conclusions we'll
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: be like yeah you know for now they look great
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: or this team is as good as advertised but we'll
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: see what happens in week four in the nfl like
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: i think because we have a better sense of what
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: we should expect based on contracts instead of random transfer
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: portal stuff We know more about the coaches and their
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: level of success in the NFL because those guys seem
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: to stick around slightly longer.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: For whatever reason, a.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Lot of folks are ready to say, oh, Denver Broncos
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: are screwed, they're done, because of a one-week performance against
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. It was pointed out on the Dan
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Patrick show this morning that I think it was the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Houston Texans, who are a lot of people's kind of
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: darling pick, I think the Houston Texans started 0-3 last year.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: And they ended up having a respectable season. And more importantly,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: for the sake of the 2026-2027 year, they started 0-3
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: last year. They might start 0-2 this year, and nobody's
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: sticking a fork in that squad. So I wouldn't do
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: it yet for the Indianapolis Colts. I wouldn't do it
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: for anyone on the positive end of the ledger either.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: I'm really happy with the San Francisco 49ers' first game
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: of the season in Australia against the L.A.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Rams. I mean.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: If you take that one-game sample size, you say that
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: is a Super Bowl favorite right there.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: That is a team that is capable of winning it all.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: And that is.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: True if you assume that there will be no issue
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: with health all year long for the San Francisco 49ers.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: That is going to be the crux of everything for
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: the Niners this year. Can you keep that all-star, all-pro,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: Pro Bowl roster, can you keep them healthy? Because most
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: of them have a lot of miles on the tires.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: There's aging in some of your more important positions. And
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: I am not ready to say anything concrete or make
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: any blanket statements about the Niners as of yet because
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: it's going to take a little bit of time before
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: we really know. And even then, right, like because the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: injury bug is the thing that you fear, even if
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: you've established yourself by week 12 as the best team
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: in the league or one of the best teams in
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: the league, the injury bug can take that away from you.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: You can earn it over the course of a half season,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: and you can lose it over a one-week span.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: Can we not talk about last year's Colts? You're bringing up,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: you say that, and that's exactly what happened to the Colts.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: They start out, what was it, 8-0, 8-2, whatever it was,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: and then they lose the rest of their games and
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: miss the playoffs because of the injury. So you're exactly
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: spot on with that. We really don't know until, like,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: week 10. whether or not a team that started out
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: hot or started out badly is going to be the
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: team that they started out as, or they're going to
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: be a team that, um, is in the playoff race, right. Or,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: or miss the playoffs altogether, whatever the case may be.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: It overreaction Monday is a thing that they try to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: do on all the national shows. And it's kind of
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: fun to fall into that, but really the best thing
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: to do is take each thing week by week. And, uh,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: not overreact too much to september i mean bill belichick
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: and the patriots proved this over and over again you
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: can't overreact too much in september because the team can
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: go oh and two or one and three and then
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: win the super bowl right.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Yes and and look the kansas city chiefs against the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: denver broncos it was like oh the chiefs are still
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: the chiefs here we go that was uh an okay
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: performance from patrick mahomes by his standard right One of
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: the biggest off-season acquisitions, off-season moves in all of NFL
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: football was Kenneth Walker going from the defending Super Bowl
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: champs to the Kansas City Chiefs. Kenneth Walker is not
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: going to run for seven and a half yards a
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: carry every game. His debut with the Chiefs was absolutely phenomenal.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: I love Kenneth Walker. I think he's a great back.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think Kenneth Walker is going to give you
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: 175 yards per game. If that's true, then crown the
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs right now. Travis Kelsey looked like vintage
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey. Three catches for 71 yards. He had a 60-yarder.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: He was loose out there.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: That 60-yarder was absolutely turn-back-the-clock Travis Kelsey.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey is not going to be doing that more
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: than half a dozen times this year, if we're being
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: honest with ourselves, right? So getting too far out over
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: our skis in any case with any team, In week one,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: week two, whatever.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: I want to do it.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: Trust me, I want to do it with the San
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Francisco 49ers. But you have to be careful about it.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: So when we're talking about a Sunday night football matchup
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: with the Kansas City Chiefs and the Indianapolis Colts, what
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: you saw from them in week one will probably be.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Analogous to what you see in week two. Maybe.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: It could be you could have a Utah State situation here.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Like I think we're going to get some of that
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: from the Denver Broncos. They had an abysmal performance. against
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs. I think the Broncos are a
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: really good team this year. I think the Broncos are
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: going to get more out of basically everybody on their
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: roster in week two than they got in week one.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: I think the Rams are going to get more out
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: of every person on their roster in week two, three, four,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: ten than they got in week one. I am not
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: making any conclusions off of week one, even in the NFL,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: even when it's guys, professionals that we know should have
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: it all dialed in. Because football is still football, and
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: the variability is a lot greater in the college ranks,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: but it still exists at the NFL level. I don't
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: know why I'm trying to make an Indianapolis Colts fan
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: or anyone else feel better about the situation.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: I don't care about the Colts.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: It's maybe more that I'm looking at the Kansas City
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Chiefs and I'm like, okay.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: You're skeptical still, it sounds like.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at it and I'm going like, look,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs are going to be there at
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: the end, but I don't think the Chiefs are going
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: to look. When the Chiefs play the Broncos, when is
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: the next time the Chiefs play the Broncos?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Let me look up the schedule here.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: When the Chiefs play the Broncos in November, November 1st,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: I'd be willing to bet money now that the outcome
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: looks a lot different. I don't know if the Broncos
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: are going to win, but I'd be willing to put
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: money down right now that it's not a demolition at
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: the hands of the Chiefs the next time around.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you've got to think it's going to be much closer.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: That game's in Denver. Denver might just... Maybe that's a
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: blowout win for Denver, too, by the way. Like, that's...
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: I think that's week eight. The NFL season, like, a
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: lot of things... A lot of time's going to pass
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: between now and then.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's week... That's week seven.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: Week seven.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, in, like, a lifetime in football, right? And I
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: love the fact... This is why we tune into the games.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: This is why the NFL is king.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: This is why.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: It is our American pastime now, why football has become
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: a thing that dominates every other sport from a viewership
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: standpoint because the glory, the happiness is matched by the heartbreak.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: When the Kansas City Chiefs invariably regress to the mean
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: of having a 37-year-old pop star husband tight end who
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: has passed his prime and can't give you a huge
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: play or two huge plays every game, Then we're going
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: to look at it and we're going to say, oh man,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: they should have had a better plan for this. They
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: should have known this was coming. Now maybe Kenneth Walker
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: is the savior of that franchise. Maybe Kenneth Walker is
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: a guy that can erase all the wrongs that may
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: or may not exist on a personnel sheet for the
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I don't know.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: What I do know is that what we saw in
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: week one, all the hope that greatness is going to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: translate and all the hope that you know, a bad
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: performance is going to be fixed later on.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: In almost every case, you're going to get something that
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: is more... You're going to get something that.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: Is more dissimilar to the bad or the good in
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: week three, four, five than consistency.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: That's what football does to you.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 12: Oh, man.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting here at Smith's, and they have this robot now.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: They have a robot named Tally at the Smith's Marketplace.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: It's like a Roomba With a tower on it. And
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: this robot just buzzes around. It has a little screen
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: face with eyes and it blinks. And it takes inventory
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: of stuff on the shelves as it scoots around the store.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: I have not noticed the Smith's robot.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: They're pretty new. I think maybe only the Smith's Marketplace
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: have them right now.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: Because, you know, it's a big store. But Tally was
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: sitting here on its charging station right next to me.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: the whole time i've been doing the show and just
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: now tally's decided i'm gonna start doing my thing and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: just be and started cruising around all right.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: And make you nervous you know how i feel.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: About the a i in the robots in the android
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: takeover i'm not tally is uh... not humanoid in any
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: way tally looks like a vacuum so i'm not overly
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: disturbed by tally but uh... these humanoid robots they do
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: freak me out uh.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: by the way We just did our Sunday Night Football preview.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: That's 6.20 p.m. kickoff on NBC, that Colts-Chiefs game. I mean,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: and if you love me out there listening, you're going
• 1:13:36
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• 1:13:37
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• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: root for the Chiefs, I suppose. By the way, Seahawks,
• 1:13:44
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think my mouth would form those words as
• 1:14:05
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• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: Maybe I just need to do the Seahawks promotions during
• 1:14:09
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• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: Is that a good compromise? Even though I, as.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: Someone who I don't root for their rival like you do,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: and I still kind of have some disdain for the Seahawks,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: but I.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: I can put that aside much easier than you can,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: All right, we've got to take a break here from Smith.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: The Daily Dump is coming up next. Josh Allen, we
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: saw great things from Josh Allen last night. I have
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: to admit, I was not aware that Josh Allen is
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: actually within striking distance of a record in the NFL
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: that a quarterback has no business holding, but he potentially could.
• 1:14:46
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• 1:14:47
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• 1:15:58
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  Speaker 5: Either way, Woods Cross High is basically right next door,
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  Speaker 2: And you know what? The kids are all right. They
• 1:16:19
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• 1:16:24
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• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's why Tally exited the docking station and left.
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  Speaker 3: NFL football last night. Nice performance by the Buffalo Bills again.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: I am not panicking about what's going on with the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: Detroit Lions if I'm a fan in Detroit because at
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: some point you're going to get your two starting safeties
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: back and your defense is probably.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Going to look a little bit better. I'm just going
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: to put that out there.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, 20 of 31, 248, three touchdowns, no interceptions.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: He also ran the ball 14 times for 69 yards,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: and more importantly for the sake of this discussion, two touchdowns.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: Just a monster performance for Joshie.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: He's an incredible player. We know that.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: Where is Josh Allen, James, on the all-time rushing touchdowns
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: list in NFL history?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say, I don't know, I'm
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: going to have to guess, but I was just going
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: to bring up on the Thursday Night Football broadcast after
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: his first rushing touchdown, they were talking about how he's
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: about to overtake Thurman Thomas, I think, for the franchise
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: rushing touchdowns record, which is just insane because that's a quarterback,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: and also Thurman Thomas was an all-time great. He's an MVP,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: he's a Hall of Famer.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: He's in the ring of honor at Highmark Stadium.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: They had to move his name over from the old
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: site to the new site. Josh Allen is now in
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: the top 20. He's now tied for 18th in all-time
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns. To nobody's surprise, every single person on the
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: list higher than him played the running back position. This
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: is a record that a quarterback has no business chasing.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: in the modern national football league this is a pocket passer,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: stand there and chuck the ball around type league. Josh
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Allen has 83 rushing touchdowns all in a Buffalo Bills uniform.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: He is in what, year nine?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what was it, 2017 I want to say is
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: when he came in, maybe 2018.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's... Emmitt Smith played 25 seasons in the NFL
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: and got to 164 rushing touchdowns.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: He's halfway there with way less years.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: He's halfway there with fewer years. This is the craziest part, okay?
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: So, like, the guys above Josh Allen on this list
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: belong above Josh Allen on this list. Emmitt Smith, LaDainian Thomasman,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry, Marcus Allen, Adrian Peterson, Walter Payton, Jim Brown,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: John Riggins. Sean Alexander and Marshall Falk are tied for ninth.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, Hall of Famer, Hall of Famer, Hall
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: of Famer, yeah.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think Priest Holmes, he's not in the Hall
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: of Fame. He's not going to get in the Hall
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: of Fame. He's not.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: He's an exception. He was really good, though, speaking of
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: Priest Holmes, he's 16th. He's got 86 rushing touchdowns. So
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen is going to pass him up in week four, okay?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: He might pass him up next week.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: And, like, everyone else is a Hall of Famer, basically.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: Here's the crazy part about this list. These are the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: names of guys that are now below Josh Allen on
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: the all-time rushing touchdowns list.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Jim Taylor, Corey Dillon, Otis Anderson, Frank Gore. Frank Gore is.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: The guy that everyone talks about being like the longevity
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: case for a Hall of Fame, right?
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: He was never the.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: Best running back in the league, but he was a
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: guy who was the best for the longest. And they're like,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: is that a reason to put somebody in the Hall
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: of Fame or not? Josh Allen has more rushing touchdowns
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: than Frank Gore has. He's got more than Edger and James.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: He's got more than Ricky Waters. He's got more than
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Tony Dorsett. The next quarterback on this list is number 27,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: and that is Cam Newton, who had 75 rushing touchdowns,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: and he's tied with Clinton Portis. Josh Allen has more
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns than Earl Campbell.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: It's insane the people he passed up and that he
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: passed up long ago.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: Eddie George, Maurice Jones Drew, Fred Taylor, Todd Gurley. We
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: think of these guys as, like, amazing, awesome running backs
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: in the NFL, in recent NFL history. We think of
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: these guys as, like, put them on a pedestal. We
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: love that dude. Josh Allen has 15 more rushing touchdowns
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: than Maurice Jones Drew and Eddie George did in their
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: illustrious careers.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: What?
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: I feel like I am in banana land with a
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: quarterback having this level of rushing and touchdown scoring proficiency.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: He is going to pass this year definitively. If he
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: stays healthy, Josh Allen is definitely going to pass. Marshawn Lynch,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: Priest Holmes, Curtis Martin, Eric Dickerson.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: Frank O'Harris, and Jerome Bettis.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: He will pass those guys this year if he stays
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: anything close to his regular career pace.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: What number does that get him to if he's won
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: more than Jerome Bettis?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: He would be 12th.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: But the total rushing touchdowns, is that 90-something?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: 92.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: And then Barry Sanders is at 99. He's 11th all-time
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: on the list. Josh Allen could catch Barry Sanders.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: Could be a stretch, though, to get there, yeah.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: But, like, he needs eight.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: More to catch Jerome Bettis, nine more to beat Jerome Bettis.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: He's going to have that. He's going to get that
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen is going to end this season probably 11th
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: or more likely 12th on the all-time rushing touchdowns list
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: in the NFL. With less than a decade of time
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: played in the league.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: As a quarterback.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: Let me ask you, can you see how far down
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson is? Because he seems like a guy that's
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: going to be up pretty high by the end of
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: his career, too.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Where is Lamar Jackson?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: He's below 27th, because that's where you said Cam Newton is.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, I think all the active players they have in bold,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: so I should be able to find. Lamar Jackson is
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: tied for 178th. How many does he have? He has
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: 36 rushing touchdowns. That surprises me.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: That probably surprises a lot of people that he has
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: less than 40 in his career right now.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, so hold on. I just want to make sure
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: when I say this. So Josh Allen.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: He's up here.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: He's got 83. He came into the league in 2018.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: He's got 83 rushing touchdowns. Christian McCaffrey came into the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: league a year before Josh Allen and has 62.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: That's Christian McCaffrey, who is, in most people's estimation, either
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: the best or one of the top three running backs.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: in the league and has been uh... i guess helpers
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: played a factor for christian.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: He has three but he's the standard right now it's
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: like him and their kenry and then sake one barkley
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: he hasn't quite had the consistency year-to-year but he is
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: someone else you get it talk about it's like those
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: three guys yeah.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Just bananas derrick henry uh.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: will probably not catch emmett smith before it's all said
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: and done i don't think He's got 125.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: He's third.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: He just got into third.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: He's got 125 career rushing touchdowns. I'm not even convinced
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: he'll catch LT at 145 rushing touchdowns before it's all
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: said and done. But Josh Allen, I guess it depends
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: on how many more years you think Josh Allen is
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: going to play.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and listen, here's the other remarkable thing about Josh Allen.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: You think of him as a pass-first quarterback, which he is.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: He definitely uses his arm first. That's the way that
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: every offensive coordinator has used him. But I think that's
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: a reason why I think a lot of us underestimate
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: just how prolific a runner he is. He's also not
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: a guy that just, like we talked about with Lamar
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: Jackson or even Cam Newton, Michael Vick, all these other guys,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: that will get a 30-yard run every couple of plays, right?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: That's not the way that Josh... Josh Allen runs the ball.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: He's more of like five yards a carry, the brotherly shove,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: Buffalo's version of that where they do the tush push
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: and he gets you a third down or fourth down
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: conversion or a touchdown at the goal line.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: That's what you picture with Josh Allen.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: But when you total all the numbers, you're like, holy cow,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: he's actually more productive than all those other guys we
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: just mentioned that we think of as the standard of
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: running quarterbacks and it's, it surprises you.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: Um, do you know what, I want to fit one
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: more storyline here into the, uh, the daily dump. Do
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: you know what high rocks is James?
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: Uh, I have just starting to learn about it. I
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: just heard about it.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Okay. So I don't know a lot.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: High rocks is like the new, as far as I
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: can tell, it's the new, uh, like CrossFit, uh.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know a lot about it, but yeah,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: it's something like that.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: It's a standardized indoor global fitness race that combines running
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: with functional workout stations. As far as I can tell,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: it's like less lifting and more cardio version of CrossFit.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: So there's like, yeah, so.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: You do like the sled push, the sled pull, burpee,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: broad jumps.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: They do rows.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, there is some farmer carries, wall balls, things like this.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: So it's... High Rocks is CrossFit, okay?
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: Whatever. This is an insane story. These athletes, impressive.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: The endurance that these people have, the willingness to push
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: through fatigue and pain, whatever, is amazing, right? Last week
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: there was, or no, earlier this week, No, last week
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: is the competition. Last week there was a very, very high-level,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: high-rocks competition where the winner, like you see in marathons sometimes,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: like you see in ultra-marathons, the winner of this event
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: soiled themselves during the event, okay?
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  Speaker 2: And just kept going.
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  Speaker 3: Because that's what you do, right?
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  Speaker 2: Can't stop.
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  Speaker 4: Got to keep pushing forward.
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  Speaker 3: You're racing the clock. uh and you see this in
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  Speaker 3: like the boston marathon the new york marathon you see
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: this all the time people who are competitive runners they're
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: just like oh that sucks i'm gonna keep going people
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  Speaker 3: who are just like wanting to reach the finish line
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: they usually find a station and like go yeah go
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  Speaker 3: into the like porta potties but like the competitive runners
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  Speaker 3: you'll see this uh this happened in high rocks but
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  Speaker 3: here's the problem it's indoors and it's on like a
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  Speaker 3: It's not like a course where, like, other people are there.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You're not running on a
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  Speaker 2: street or, like, cross-country style. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, this person finished in one hour, one minute, and
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  Speaker 3: 23 seconds, won the race.
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  Speaker 2: And because of this, High Rocks.
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  Speaker 3: Was like, okay, we actually need a new rule where
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: you're not allowed to do that.
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  Speaker 4: You're disqualified if you poop.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine participating in a sport where they have to Because
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  Speaker 3: of something that actually happened, they.
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  Speaker 2: Have to put in a rule that you can't poop
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  Speaker 2: yourself in this sport it's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: So all of you high rocks people out there i
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  Speaker 3: hope you are achieving your fitness goals i have strong
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: admiration for your endurance and your stick-to-it-edness please don't be
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: quite this serious about it where you just keep it
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: rolling even after it's running down your.
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  Speaker 4: Leg or you know i Take some Imodium before the race.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully you can avoid it. So that's the perfect
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  Speaker 3: story for a daily dump.
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  Speaker 5: It feels dangerous to say just don't eat hours before,
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  Speaker 5: but I don't know. Maybe that's something that these competitors
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: are going to have to figure out nutritionally. Like, hey,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: I need to make sure that I don't need to go.
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  Speaker 3: During the competition i can't imagine the level of dedication
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: these high level runners and and now this high rocks
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: person has to where you're just like this thing is
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: televised there's like cameras there where you're just like yep
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: i'm just gonna keep going doesn't bother me like you
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: are you are that is a that is a tiger
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: woods michael jordan.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: Mentality like no shame at all costs No shame. Winning
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  Speaker 2: is all that matters. That's bananas. All right. We've got
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  Speaker 2: to take a break here.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: Lee Sterling from Paramount Sports joins us next for the
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: Picks of the Week. Coordinator's Corner coming up right around
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to The Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in the number one handicapper in the business, Lee
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: Sterling of Paramount Sports, friend of mine, friend of the show.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: Off to a hot start in the college football season.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: Also a UFC card this weekend and a UFC card
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: coming to Salt Lake City again in just a couple
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: of weeks on the Utah bye week. So we'll have
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: lots to discuss with Lee as we continue. Big game tonight.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about it as Lee gives us some picks here.
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  Speaker 2: Lee, welcome to the show. How are you, sir?
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 12: I am great. Going on average about four and a half,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 12: five hours sleep. But when you're winning in footballs almost
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 12: every night, it's spectacular. Let's just hit real quick on
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 12: the main fight on Saturday night. Pantoja or Van? Which
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 12: side are you going?
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  Speaker 2: Pantoja.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the arm injury was a fluke. I
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: think Van is giving himself too much credit. You cause
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: the injury by catching the kick and pushing him back,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: but that fight goes a lot differently if he stays
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: healthy and doesn't dislocate his elbow.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, the line was minus 200 in that fight.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 12: Now he's catching plus 110, 115. I think he's going
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 12: to be like a snake. He's going to just slowly
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 12: just work and work and work and eventually take over
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 12: and maybe even get a submission, round three, four, or five.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: Ooh, maybe a finish in the championship rounds. For that
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: UFC card this weekend. All right, let's talk a.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: Little college football. Let's start with a game tonight. Big
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  Speaker 3: 12 implications here. Two of the powers in Texas. Texas Tech,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of people think are the best team in
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: the conference. They haven't looked all that great as of yet. Houston,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: another team that people considered maybe a dark horse. Also,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: maybe some iffy stuff, but we're only two weeks in.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Texas Tech is an eight-point favorite in this game.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Surprises me that line.
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  Speaker 12: Me too, but they have earned it. You've got to
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 12: give them respect in the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: They've dominated.
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  Speaker 12: I think it's Tech, Utah, and BYU, and I think
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 12: Houston is just a little whisker behind. Now, last year,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 12: Houston at home could not play with Tech. They lost 35-11.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 12: Their quarterback, Connor Wegman, he got knocked out of the
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 12: game in the second quarter and never returned. But I'm
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 12: watching Tech this year, and Even though they have five sacks,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 12: the defensive line is not the same. I mean, you're
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 12: missing Bailey. You're missing Rodriguez at linebacker. Rodriguez for the
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 12: Dolphins had almost 20 tackles last week. He is an
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 12: absolute monster. And Will Hammond's not the guy. He's a backup.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 12: I think they're going to make a change of quarterback
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 12: maybe in this game or next week here. I think
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 12: Tech's going to win the game here 27-24. But I
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 12: think you take the points. It wouldn't shock me if
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 12: Houston wins the game outright. Take the eight.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: I feel like you're confirming what I was already leaning toward,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: and I always appreciate when that's the case. Lee Sterling
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show, giving
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: us picks for the weekend as we get closer to
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: Utah kicking off against Utah State afternoon game. This is
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: going to be the most talked-about game nationally this and
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: already has been this week. LSU, this line went down to, like,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: minus one for LSU on the injury report. Didn't last long.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: A lot of people were skeptical, myself included. I think
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: Sam Levitt was always going to play and is going
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: to play. LSU back to being a three-point favorite as
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin returns to Oxford for the first time.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: LSU, Ole Miss, how does it play?
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  Speaker 12: Well, how about this? The line went from three... down
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 12: to about a pick-em for a second, and then oddsmakers
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 12: said not so fast. He's playing. But I'd say about 98%,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 12: 99% chance he suits up. And I think the pressure's
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 12: on Ole Miss. I think these kids are walking around campus.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 12: It's an absolute zoo. They started having concerts on Tuesday night,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 12: Country Western Acts. A friend of mine's son is in
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 12: a fraternity. They're selling– space on their fraternity, that's right,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 12: on their fraternity for advertisers. I mean, this is crazy. Banners,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 12: they're making money. I guess they're going to make a
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 12: lot of beer money. But I think that that's a
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 12: distraction for the Ole Miss kids. I think LSU's going in,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 12: this is a business trip, not a Lane Kiffin fan,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 12: but I think he owns a big advantage. He knows
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 12: six of the 11 defenders here on the Ole Miss team,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 12: and Two guys I think he's going to target are
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 12: number two linebacker Jalen Braxton, who was there last year,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 12: and number 14 safety Edwin Joseph. So I think Ole
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 12: Miss' offense is their best unit, but their defense has
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 12: a propensity to tire out in the third and the
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 12: fourth quarter. They have breaks in coverage, and I think
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 12: they have some weaknesses. Give me LSU in a great game.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 12: If it's half as good as Texas and Ohio State,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 12: we're going to get our money's worth. LSU 41-34.
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  Speaker 3: All right, BYU, the hated rival of the Utes here
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: on the home of the Utes.
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  Speaker 2: They look really good. I'm not going to lie.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: They are a good team. And they came away with
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: an impressive win. They covered against Arizona last week. Arizona
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  Speaker 3: is one of those teams that I think is on
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: the rise in the Big 12.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: And now it's Colorado State.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: And Colorado State, I think, from what we've seen of
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: them so far, they're going to be pretty respectable teams.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: They're going to be respectable enough, at least, in the
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: mid-major world. But BYU is a big favorite here, 17.5-point
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: favorites against the Rams, who've done a good job of
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: turning their opponents over.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: That's their hope in this one. Can BYU cover again?
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  Speaker 6: You're right, BYU.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 12: I didn't think they'd come together this quick, but they have.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 12: A lot of people know Jim O'Rourke. Jim O'Rourke is
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 12: a very respected coach. I mean, he could end up
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 12: back at Washington. Don't be shocked if that happens in
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 12: a couple years. He built UConn into a respectable team
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 12: late last year in the bowl game. UConn was a
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 12: team you didn't want to face here. I think BYU
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 12: might be a little flacky for this game. Colorado State's quarterback, Henji,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 12: from Oklahoma State, looks good so far. He brought over
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 12: a running back, Mel Harris, from UConn. Kid's averaging over
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 12: 13 yards per carry. He's not going to keep that
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 12: average up, but This is a kid that knows how
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 12: to run downhill. I think BYU wins 35-24, but Colorado
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 12: State covers.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, all right. Me and you are in lockstep right now, Lee.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I should feel nervous about that
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: or good about it. I'm going to stick with good
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: right now. We'll say best for last with Utah, Utah State.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: NFL has been really interesting so far. Let's go with
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks here. The defending Super Bowl champs are four-and-a-half-point
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: favorites against the lowly Cardinals.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: How does this game play out?
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 12: What I've seen so many times before, a quarterback comes
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 12: into a game as a backup, and teams a lot
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 12: of times have no real answer for him once they
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 12: get going. They just don't prepare for him and give
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 12: him credit. I think that Drew Locke is a capable backup,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 12: unlike some of these other guys. But even Carson Wentz
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 12: had a good game last week. Vikings and Seahawks here.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 12: The quarterbacks got hurt, and both those backups shown well.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 12: But Jacoby Brissett, when he's in a rhythm, he's a
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 12: good quarterback. He can go three, four, five games in
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 12: a row and play well. Watch his tape last week
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 12: against the Chargers, spreading the ball around. They're running the
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 12: ball now with love. They've always had decent running backs.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 12: Now they have a bell cow running back. And I
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 12: just think with time to study Drew Locke, it's going
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 12: to be the difference. Seattle wins in a dogfight 24-27.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 12: but I think the right side, take the cards.
• 1:38:33
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• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: Game of the week is the Chargers, who are seven-point
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: favorites against the Raiders, Lee.
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  Speaker 12: Yep, they want to get that game for free. I'll
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  Speaker 12: Chargers and Raiders, 800-400-9-7-4-1. And what a run it's been here.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: Utah is 28-point favorites over the Little Brother. The Battle
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: of the Brothers, Utah State coming down, Bronco Mendenhall, he
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: knows this Utah team and this Utah staff and this
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: Utah environment pretty well. Offensive coordinator was on his staff
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: last year up in Logan. 28's a big number for Utah.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: They've looked impressive through two weeks. Can they get it done,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: and can they cover against the Aggies?
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 12: It is a big number, but I think actually Utah
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 12: State's down from last year. I think the right move
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 12: is to go, like I said, they went away from
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 12: McKay Hillstead to Grady Brostrout, so they're no worse for that.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 12: They are really good. Bronco Mendenhall is an underdog, is
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 12: always strong. They're 7-1 against the spread as a dog.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 12: But I think this Utah team is different here. I
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 12: think they can handle teams like that. I think they're
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 12: going to be able to score. And then on defense,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 12: it starts up front. I love the San Jose State transfer.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 12: This kid, Mo, is something else in the middle of
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 12: the line here. So even in 2024, when the youths
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 12: here were a pretty big favorite here, they still won
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 12: big here. So I think they're going to win this game.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 12: I'm going to lay the points here. Utah, 48-17 over
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 12: Utah State.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: Utah to win and cover, according to Lee Sterling. And, look,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: he's the best in the business. That's why we have
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: him on. Lee, good stuff as always. You and I
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: are in close accord on these picks, and so I'm
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: going to have to follow on the UFC ones as
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: well for the weekend.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 12: Okay. Sounds good. Let's make some hay this weekend, and
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 12: everyone have a great weekend and be safe.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, Lee. Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 12: Okay, see you.
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• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: That brings us to a Friday at 1 o'clock, which
• 1:42:03
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• 1:42:07
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• 1:42:10
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• 1:42:14
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• 1:42:17
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• 1:42:22
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: Welcome in for Coordinator's Corner this year. We're checking in
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: with the defense, Colton Swan, Utah, D.C., coming off another
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: big victory over Arkansas, getting ready for Utah State.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: Colton Swan, welcome to the show again. How are you, sir?
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 6: Good, good. Thanks for having me, OC.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: All right, so, you know, first blush when you went
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: back and you dug into the film against Arkansas, what'd
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: you like?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 4: Maybe what didn't you like about your team's performance?
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: Speaker 4 0 Yeah, I thought that overall we played
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: really hard. I thought the kids, kids ran to the ball. Well,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: so the effort, you know, the relentless attitude that we
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 6: talk about was, was there, you know, we had the
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 6: one turnover I would like to get gotten to. We
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 6: did get our hands on a lot of balls that
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: we need to make sure that, you know, we come
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 6: away with two or more turnovers is kind of our
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 6: goal every game that we're looking at. But I did
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: like the production, you know, from the facts to the
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 6: PBUs to the TFLs, our production board was way up
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 6: from the first game. And so it kind of reiterates just,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 6: you know, our guys' ability to get to the ball
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: and make plays and just have that kind of tenacious attitude.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned the plays where you got a
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: hand on a ball. I was keeping count because that's
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: what you do when you're nitpicking. It was like the
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: one interception could have been four interceptions, maybe five interceptions
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: in this game. The difference between making the play, we
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: talked about this on the show this week, the difference
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: between being in position and you're right there and the
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: sack is almost there or the ball hits your hands
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: and you intercept it or you don't. It's still a PBU.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: It's still a broken play. for an offense, but obviously
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: it's not the huge momentum swing. Can you coach up
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: those differences, or is it just a guy's got to
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: make a play when that opportunity's there?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean.
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  Speaker 6: That's a great question because sometimes it does. It falls
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 6: into your lap. It just goes your way. Something just
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 6: works out just perfectly. We do coach and really work
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 6: on turnovers and PBUs and batting balls down, things like that.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 6: And so we're trying to up the amount of production
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 6: when it comes to that. you know, are we constantly
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 6: as defenders, you know, working ball drills and things like that,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 6: some things that you would neglect, you know, as a
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 6: defensive guy that can really show up, you know, in
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 6: a time where, Hey, we need to have ball skills.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 6: We need to be able to, you know, knock these
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 6: balls down or how to get after a quarterback strip sacks,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 6: you know, things like that. So there's a lot of
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 6: techniques that actually we coach and it goes into it.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, there are some things that
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 6: just kind of fall your way. You know, some of
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 6: those PBUs batted at the line of scrimmage by a
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 6: defensive lineman will get deflected up in the air and
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 6: land right in the lap of the linebacker. That happened,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 6: you know, in this last game and we weren't able
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 6: to catch it. And so, you know, things like that
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 6: that we continue to work on and you just keep
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: putting yourself in those positions and they'll come your way eventually.
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  Speaker 3: The I'm working backwards here, I guess the first drive
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: for Arkansas gobbled up about eight minutes of the first
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: quarter and it was pretty methodical. And then when they
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: got down close to scoring position, your team bowed up
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: and forced the field goal instead. I know that a
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: defensive coordinator probably drives you nuts when you see someone
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: kind of building a drive like that. But ultimately, they
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: only came away with the three points there. And then
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: they didn't score again for, you know, 48 minutes or
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: whatever it was.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: So walk me through that first drive. What were you seeing?
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: What did Arkansas do well? And maybe most importantly, what
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: changed as you got down close to the red zone
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: and your guys were able to keep them out of
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: the end zone?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think just to start off is, yeah, they,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: their openers who I thought were very good plays. Well,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: we'll design strategic plays that we're hitting on the outsides,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 6: you know, the fake, the reverses, the speed options, the,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 6: you know, plays that were, were hitting outside. I think
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 6: on the very first play, they tried to run an
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 6: inside zone and got stuffed immediately. And so they kind
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 6: of went to some other openers that I thought was well-designed. And,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 6: you know, as a defense coordinator, you're like, okay, we've
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 6: got to handle these things, the fake reverses, the speed
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 6: ops and keep everything in front of us, get, you know,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 6: tackle well, make sure that we're keeping stuff, you know,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 6: in front and, and, and cupped inside. And, and we
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 6: did do that, you know, and when our backs got
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 6: against the wall down there in the red zone, we were,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 6: you know, kind of, kind of made a stand there and,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 6: and it worked out for us. But I, I, as
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 6: the defense coordinator and those plays are happening. And it
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 6: wasn't necessarily anything that we were giving up. It was just,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 6: you know, play that they were getting that, you know,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 6: we had, we had worked on and they did a
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 6: good job of going back through and looking at things
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 6: that are hurt us. in the past here at the
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 6: University of Utah. And those are plays that were showing
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 6: up in that first series. And so it was good
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 6: to see that we were able to, you know, cope
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 6: with them and make some plays there and nice to,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 6: in the red zone, have a step up, you know,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 6: and limit them to a field goal. And that's our
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 6: whole deal is when we get in the red zone,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, zero touchdowns got to be, that has to
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 6: be a field goal. And so it was good to
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 6: see our defense kind of step up. I thought the
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 6: guys were triggering really well to the ball and it
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: showed up there late.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that, you know, people have been talking about it.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: We've been talking about it a lot this last week.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: Jaimo had a breakout game. And going back into camp and,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: you know, everyone was talking about, Hey man, this guy's undersized,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: but watch what he does. You've talked about how the
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: numbers tell us he's maybe a little small, but he's
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: a great player.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: Regardless.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: And we got to see a really nice flash of
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: that against a massive offensive line. I mean, I was,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: I was watching from the North end zone on one
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: series and it was like, I mean, I wish it
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: would have taken a picture because The right side of
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: their offensive line is like 6'4 and 6'6, and then
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: you got Jai, however tall he really is, 5'10, 5'11,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: and yet he's the dominant force there, but you got
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 3: 700 pounds of hog molly staring at him, and he's
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: still making plays. Really nice to see him have that game,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: and I just want to give you an opportunity to
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 3: speak to the work that he's put in to get there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, and it's, you know, we took him
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 6: out of the transfer portal. He comes out of San
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 6: Jose and in watching him, you know, I mean, I'm
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 6: sure us and every coach in the country that was
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 6: looking at him in the, in the transfer portal center going, okay,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 6: he's undersized. But then you look at the amount of
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 6: production and the things that he was doing from a
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 6: technical standpoint, it was like, Holy crap. This kid's a
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: really good player. And, you know, you decide to go
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 6: on them and, and when you get them here, you're like, okay,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 6: let's unwrap this present here and see what we got.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 6: And he's lightning in a bottle as, as you know,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: thousands of people saw on Saturday. And, um, you know,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 6: he didn't have the production in the first game against
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: Idaho that he did obviously in this Arkansas game, but
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: we we've known since he got here, how explosive and
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 6: how productive he is. And he's going to continue that. He's,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: he's got a great mindset, obviously a great motor. You know,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 6: he wants, he wants to do everything right. And he,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 6: and he does a full speed and, and we couldn't
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 6: be more happy with him and his production that he's
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 6: doing on the defensive side.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: Um, as, since we're talking about D tackles D line, uh,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: We saw a really nice pass batted down at the
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, which I guess we got to be honest,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 3: that's going to be more of a Carson Kalfusi thing
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: than a Jai thing, because he's going to have a
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: harder time getting up into those passing lanes.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: But how do you grade out that play? It's such
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: an impactful thing.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: It's not quite a sack, but it's a dead play
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: and it's a momentum stealer from an offense. And when
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: you guys are going through film and you're watching that,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: and I know you practice it, you know, a ball
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: batted at the line of scrimmage can be a big deal.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 6: Oh, big time. And we preach and coach it all
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 6: the time. We tell our guys, hey, D-line, you know,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 6: you're obviously in a pass rush. You're thinking, okay, I'm
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 6: going to disrupt the pass by getting to the quarterback, right? Well,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 6: there's times that you're not getting to the quarterback. And
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 6: so your help in the pass coverage is to bat
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 6: the ball down. Right. And so we, we work on timing.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 6: We work on getting our hands up, you know, cause
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 6: the quarterback rarely accounts. He'll account for, you know, pressure
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 6: and moving in the pocket and escaping those types of things.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 6: Rarely does he account for D line, getting their hands up.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 6: It's not like you sit there saying, Oh, there's a
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 6: D tackle there. I've got to make sure I slide
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 6: over here to the side. Cause I know he's going
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 6: to jump and bat my ball down. That doesn't happen
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 6: at a quarterback's mind. And so we feel like that
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 6: that's kind of a hidden, you know, coverage for us
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 6: is being able to get these, you know, hands up and, And,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 6: you know, there was a couple of times you got to,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 6: you know, batted a ball down where a guy was
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 6: open in the back end. And so it builds out
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 6: the DBs in the back end and the coverage. So
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 6: we work on a lot. We talk about it a lot.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: And obviously Carson Kofusi does an amazing job of it.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: He's got, you know, great impeccable timing when it comes
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 6: to batting the ball down. And this really understands, you know,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 6: quarterback eyes. And there's a lot that goes into it,
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 6: but he does a great job.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: Coach, what do you guys feed Nate Ritchie? It seems
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: like he's a different player. Not that he was ever
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: a bad player, but it seems like he's on a
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: slightly different level this year.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: And to what do you attribute that?
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 6: Speaker 3 1st off, I think he's, he's always had that. Well,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 6: he had a hell of a game, but he's always
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 6: had that competitive drive to be great. You know, has
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 6: he been successful as he has in his first two games? No,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 6: but you know, he's always been very competitive and really
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: wants to be great and everything that he does, not
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 6: just football. And so, you know, you stick with something
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: long enough and you're that competitive, then you're going to start,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 6: start to see the results of that. And in these
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 6: first two games, he's done a great job for us.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 6: Like I said, he's one of the older guys on
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 6: the defense. He really understands the defensive knowledge and terminology
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 6: and alignment and assignment from a mental standpoint. And then now,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: you know, putting plays together from a physical standpoint, technical standpoint,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 6: the way he's tackling. And he does a really good
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 6: job of understanding his opponent. He's dialed in on the
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 6: three things that we talk about defensively that you know
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 6: before the ball snaps. You know the formation down the distance,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 6: the personnel. And you take those three things and what
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 6: does it give me? And Nate really does a good
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 6: job with that little cheat sheet. So it's nice to
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 6: see him be successful.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: I had to ask Kevin McGiven this question, and I
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: got to ask you the same thing because there's an
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: expectation sometimes from a fan base that when you play
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: a team like Idaho, it's going to be kind of
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: a vanilla game plan offensively and defensively. And then it's
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: going to ramp up more against an opponent like Arkansas.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: And it seems to me, and you can correct me
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: if I'm wrong here, that you didn't really keep too
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: much in the bag for Idaho. You were showing some
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: stuff and that it didn't ramp up necessarily in a
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: drastic amount.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 4: Arkansas.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: So the question is like, how deep in your bag
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: are you? How, how much of the possibilities of this
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: offense have you showed us so far, this defense, excuse me,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: have you showed us so far?
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 6: Well, it's not how I look at it is it's,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 6: I don't really, look at the opponent of who they
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 6: are necessarily of what they're doing. Um, I, I just
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 6: try to make sure that what we're going to provide
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 6: defense is they all, all about us and how we
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 6: can be successful versus certain formations, certain plays. And, uh,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 6: you know, I, I, it will continue to, you know,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 6: grow in different things and you'll see new things every week. Um,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: and I feel like we predicate our defense according to
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 6: what we don't, we're, we're going to see versus an offense. um,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 6: you know, and, and what an offense provides and how
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 6: we feel like we can attack it. Um, and so
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 6: I think we're very unique in that regard. I think
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 6: you're going to always see new stuff every week and, uh,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 6: and it's, it's going to continue to grow. And, and
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 6: I'm sure by the end of the season, like, Holy crap,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 6: you got this entire defense that, you know, you've ran
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 6: over 12 weeks and it's like, um, just a package
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 6: that's kind of keeps changing from week to week. If
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 6: that makes sense.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 4: One more minute here with Colton Swan.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: Utah defensive coordinator on Coordinator's Corner on the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: What are you seeing from Utah State? What are they offensively?
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 6: They are a very dynamic. They've got a really good
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 6: skill set with wide receivers, wide receivers that can run,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 6: that can catch the ball or get in and out
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 6: of breaks on the routes. Do a great job at
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage and in press and press man.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 6: Great job with those guys. The running backs, I think
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 6: are very good. They've got a running back that's extremely
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 6: athletic and, and he's backed up by another kid that
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 6: you know, it was kind of a one, two punch.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 6: The quarterbacks are very athletic and have the ability to
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 6: get out in space and make plays outside of pockets.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 6: They can run and do some creative stuff there. I
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 6: think they use the tight ends very good, whether it's
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 6: blocking or getting them down the field in the pass game.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 6: They do a nice job with formations. They do a
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 6: nice job with motions and defense. and really put a
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 6: lot of stress on defense to make sure, you know,
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 6: your rules are going to apply to everything that you see.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 6: And so I've been really impressed with coach and I,
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 6: and what he does.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: How do you, how do you separate out or how
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: do you process when, you know, a team through two games,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: cause that's all you have to study from this year
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: is kind of bipolar, right? They have a pretty stinky
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: first out outing, and then they play really well against
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 3: a much better opponent in Washington. I How do you,
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: when you're putting your game plan together, how do you
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: study the film and say, all right, that's more representative
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: of what they really are, or this is why it
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: looked bad in the first game?
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 6: Speaker 4 0 1. Yeah, I think in the first
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 6: game they had a few things not go their way.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 6: You know, there was some drops, there was some, you know,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 6: it's what the Hill state kid leaving the game. You know,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 6: I know he threw some interceptions that were unexpected and,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 6: and stuff like that. I think that the momentum in
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 6: the second game really got them going. I think they
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 6: were in a good fight and battling and that just
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 6: kept them in the game. And, and this team, as
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 6: you watch them, you're like, this is a very well-coached tough,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 6: mentally tough team. I mean, they play extremely hard. They
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 6: are not going to back down from anybody, whether it's Washington, Utah,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 6: you know, Idaho state. And, and they, they play that way.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 6: They got a chip on their shoulder. So they do
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 6: a good job there. I think this, the momentum in
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 6: the second game kind of really helped them propel themselves
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 6: throughout the game. And, you know, they, they kind of
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 6: fell into some tough spots and, in the Idaho state game. And,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 6: and so I, you know, I think it's still the
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 6: same team. It's just, just a matter of momentum.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: Last thing before I let you go, take me inside
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: the mind of a defensive coordinator. when they're trying to
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: prep against Utah's offense, Mac G is a mad scientist.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 4: He's got two quarterback formations.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: I don't even know. How do you identify that?
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: Cause we know 11 personnel, 12 personnel, 13 personnel.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: What do you call the personnel grouping when it's two
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks and a running back and two quarterbacks and two
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: tight ends?
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 4: What do you call that?
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: Colton?
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's tough. I tell you what, because I've had
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 6: to go against it for, you know, throughout the winter
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 6: and in the spring and fall camp. And so I
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 6: don't think there's going to be a personnel or a
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 6: formation that I wouldn't be used to. But that's for sure,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 6: because I've pretty much seen it all with the different
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 6: sets that we've been getting from our offense, which it's awesome.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's, you know, football's a lot about matchups and,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 6: you know, putting guys in. you know, position to expose
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 6: one another, expose the defense. And, you know, Coach McGiven
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 6: does a really good job with that. He obviously has
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 6: two very good quarterbacks that he utilizes. And so, yeah,
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 6: as a defense coordinator, man, I know you're pulling your
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 6: hair out because there's all kinds of personnel formations and
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 6: different things that they do. So you've got to have
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 6: a well-rounded defense and be able to, you know, account
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 6: for a lot of different stuff.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 9: I lied.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: One more question.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 3: So far, no sacks from the defensive end position. And
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 3: I know we're getting nitpicky here because wins are wins
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: and that's all that really matters. But, you know, that's
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: something we've grown to expect to be accustomed to with
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 3: Utah defense, that that pass rushing position generates production there.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: What's it going to take for those guys to put
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 3: up numbers and not just, you know, not just affect
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: the quarterback in his pocket?
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, those guys will get going. They're talented.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 6: They're a talented group. Right now, I know the ball's
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 6: getting out quick, which, you know, that's why you're getting
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 6: more of the PBUs and things like that than you
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 6: are right now at the SACs. And I truly believe
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 6: that they'll get going. They just got to find their
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 6: groove and, you know, just us as coaches putting them
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 6: in positions so they have those opportunities and making sure that,
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 6: you know, that they have the ability to make those sacks.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 6: And so I'm not worried about that at all. And
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 6: like I said, I mean, it's not that we're not
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 6: getting sacks. It's just, you know, maybe it's coming from
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 6: a backer or from a D tackle or whatever it
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 6: may be. You know, we're still putting pressure on that quarterback.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 6: That's the main thing.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 3: Well, congratulations on being 2-0. Let's see you go 3-0.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and we'll see you up there
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 3: on Saturday.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 6: You bet, OC. Take care.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: That is Colton Swan, coordinator of corner here with the D.C.
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  Speaker 3: Airing of grievances is next on the Sean O'Connell Show,
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 3: ESPN 700, 92.1 FM.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 7: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 7: Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. The tradition
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 7: of Festivus begins with the airing of grievances.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: I got a lot of problems with you people.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: Now, you're going to hear about it.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 6: 877-353-0700.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: Air your grievances here on a Friday. Tell me what's
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: on your mind. Get it off your chest. Head into
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: the weekend burden-free.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 3: And enjoy your life as we get ready for Utah
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: versus Utah State. Air your grievances here at Real OC
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 3: Sports on Twitter, 877-353-0700. You could call us or you
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: could text us to air your grievances. At the risk
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 3: of getting redundant with the themes of my grievances here,
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 3: you know that I'm I'm like an old man yelling
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: at the clouds when it comes to AI, when it
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 3: comes to the inevitable rise of technology and our computer
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 3: overlords eventually killing us all. Well, I don't want to
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 3: hasten that, all right? So the little robot that's cruising
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 3: around here at Smith's Marketplace in Woods Cross, 614 West,
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 3: 2600 South in Woods Cross, we still have Smith's tailgate
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 3: passes and Smith's gift cards to give away. We've got
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 3: Gatorade water bottles to give away. We have, I think, one,
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 3: maybe we're out of the Starbucks. Yeah, we're out of
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: the Starbucks blankets.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 2: We have Taffy, though.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: Tally is roaming around doing the tallying thing as an
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 3: inventory robot.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: I'm probably okay with that, you know, although I don't
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: like replacing human jobs with robot jobs, but whatever.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 3: This one, though, feels like it's a bridge too far,
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: and it's ahead of the curve, and I don't know
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 3: what's going to stop it from happening over and over
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 3: and over again. We now have an NHL team that
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: is hastening our human demise by replacing their Zamboni driver
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: with a self-driving ice resurfacer. So the Colorado Avalanche are
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 3: getting rid of their Zamboni driver, and they're letting a
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: robotic Zamboni do the job itself. Being the Zamboni driver
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 3: and the Zamboni rider has always been kind of a
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 3: cool thing.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 3: Sometimes the Zamboni driver is also the backup emergency goalkeeper.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: Goaltender. What are we doing here?
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: You're going to put this stupid autonomous Zamboni in goal,
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 3: are you?
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 2: I don't like this Colorado Avalanche.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 3: I already don't like you because you're the Colorado Avalanche.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 3: And now you're getting rid of an old school, honorific, like, incredible...
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: lower position in a hockey franchise the zamboni driver you're
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 3: getting rid of the zamboni driver how dare you grievance and.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 5: Denver would oh see yeah exactly we've we've well documented
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 5: how overrated we we think the city of denver is
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 5: and of course their hockey team would do this is really.
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  Speaker 2: Dumb come on I don't like it. I don't like
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: it one bit. We have a caller. Did you say
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: Sam from Taylorsville?
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 4: Sam from Taylorsville, yeah. He's got a grievance for us.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: T-Bill, stand up. Sam, how are you?
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  Speaker 6: I'm good, OC.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 9: How are you on this airing and grievance Friday?
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 3: The weather has cleared somewhat, but we got some rain
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 3: and some hail this morning.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: I got no complaints. Air your grievance for me, Sam.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 9: I'm going to echo yours. One, because it's the Colorado Avalanche,
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 9: but the Zamboni driver, at some point, everyone has that
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 9: as a dream job going up. So tough grievance to follow,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 9: but I'm going to do my best. We had exchanged
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 9: some texts a while ago, and I told you about
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 9: my buddy who found... uh, that Rayjean Rondo.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 6: Jersey, um, Goodwill.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure if you remember.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 9: So I'll make several trips to the post office at
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 9: least every other day as I get my eBay sales out.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 9: And I was driving yesterday to the post office that
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 9: takes me right past an elementary school when they are
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 9: letting school out.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 11: Um, Four crossing.
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  Speaker 9: Guards at each side so that they can kind of
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 9: navigate the elementary traffic as they're walking through. My grievance
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 9: is with people, hey, there's just traffic. You're in a
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 9: school zone. It has its own speed limit. Let's not
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 9: be trying to race four extra cars through the red
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 9: light because whatever you think you've got going on is
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 9: super important. Because, one, there's children present. Two, it's just
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 9: an inconsiderate thing to do when you're always trying to
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 9: beat everybody through the red light or, you know, going
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 9: a little bit too fast through the elementary school zone.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 9: I don't even have elementary-age kids, but it bothers me.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 9: And I kind of want to, like, get out and
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 9: say something to these people, but they're long gone by
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 9: the time you get the chance. So hopefully somebody's listening
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 9: that will abide by the school zone and the crossing
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 9: guards because– It can get a little ugly out there
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 9: if we're all just going to do that and think
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 9: whatever we've got is the most important thing in the world.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 3: I will echo that grievance. I do have elementary-age schoolchildren.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 3: And let me tell you something. Nothing will fire me
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 3: up faster than someone doing exactly what you're talking about.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 3: When somebody deems that their errand they're running or the
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 3: appointment they have to get to is more important than
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 3: the overall general safety of the collective community, children walking
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 3: about in a neighborhood and exiting school. Grievance against you.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 3: Grievance probably really isn't strong enough, if we're being honest.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: And additionally, shout out to the crossing guards out there.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: Crossing guard is one of those things that it's probably
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: not given enough thanks.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 3: Because that job, there's no way that's a cool job.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 3: There's no way that's a fun job. Nobody grows up
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 3: wanting to be a crossing guard.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe we should. Crossing guards, you fulfill a sincere need
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: in society.
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  Speaker 3: And I give a shout-out to all of you. Love
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 3: to the crossing guards. And thanks to Sam, 877-353-0700, if
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 3: you want to air a grievance. Also, slow down in
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 3: the school zone.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: Don't be that person.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 5: School zones, neighborhoods, like if you live where I live, O.C.,
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 5: I think probably.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 4: where you are in the.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 5: Avenues too, like they're, they're often narrower streets.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 5: You know, when you got houses on both sides, that's
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 5: why the speed limit is slower, but people are in
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 5: such a hurry. It seems like on my street, we've
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 5: got basketball hoops in or on the blacktop, you know,
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 5: on the street there. So we have neighbor kids, uh,
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 5: playing literally in the street playing basketball and it's always
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 5: like it's always something for me where i'm like okay
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 5: even if i'm tempted to go you know a little
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 5: faster like i do in other streets like i'm always
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 5: thinking well these kids could be out playing and that's
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 5: the reason why we got slower speed limits so let's
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 5: just abide by them in those especially in those areas.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 3: In my childhood i grew up at the end of
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 3: a road right my street dead ended like four houses
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 3: down from the house i grew up in and the
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 3: only reason people had to come down our street was
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 3: if you lived in the neighborhood right and Most people
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 3: don't speed in their own neighborhoods. So we could play, like,
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 3: touch football in the street. We could rollerblade and play
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 3: roller hockey. We could do whatever we wanted in the street.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 3: And like you did back then, when you saw a
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: car coming, you'd just yell, car. Everyone would go into
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 3: the gutters. Car would drive past. Maybe a honk, maybe
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 3: a wave. And then you'd get back out to your business.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 3: The street I live on now is on a hill.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: And it's also one.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 3: Of the only streets in the avenues where you get, like,
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: several hundred yards of uninterrupted non-intersection driving, right? Because the
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 3: avenues is just that, like, tight grid where it's, you know,
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 3: you're going up and down these hills, there's a yield
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: sign or a stop sign on pretty much every corner.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: My street is not like that.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 3: My street is, like, probably a kilometer of just, like,
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 3: open stretch, and it's on a hill.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: So people go so.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 3: Fast right in front of my house, and it drives
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 3: me insane. So school zones especially, don't do it. 0175 says,
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  Speaker 3: my wife is a crossing guard and absolutely loves it.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: Shout out to your wife. I'm glad she loves it.
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: That's a really cool thing to be doing.
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 3: And I know it's not like a lucrative position, so
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 3: you're doing it because you love the kids and you
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 3: like having that connection, I imagine.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: So pretty cool.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 3: My grievance today, this is from 0957. My grievance today
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 3: is high school bullying. Tired of kids being jerks, especially
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 3: around dances and other events. Just be nice and inclusive.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 3: It doesn't cost anything.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 3: 100%. Look, the official stance of the Sean O'Connell Show
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: is anti-bullying.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: The official stance of the Sean O'Connell Show is bully
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: the bullies. All right?
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 3: Because sometimes that's the only way that they learn.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 3: There's a language that mean people speak, and that language
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 3: is means. So be the nice person who's capable of mean.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 3: Be mean to the mean person and teach them a
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: lesson and stop them from being a bully.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: I hate that. I actually have, like, weird nightmares.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: About, you know, people coming back to me from my
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 3: past life and being like, hey, did you know you
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: bullied me? Because no one has that perception of themselves, right,
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 3: when they're growing up. Like, I would never bully anyone.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 3: I would never be a bully. But, you know, perception
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 3: is reality. And if someone felt like you were bullying them, yikes.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 3: That's like a weird fear of mine, even though I'm
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 3: no longer in a position to bully anyone, except James,
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 3: which I do aggressively.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 2: But that's for a bit, all right? So that doesn't count.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that might be part of my grievance later, but
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 5: it's okay. We can set it aside for now.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough. All right, who did you say
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 2: is on the phone line? I love Paul.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 4: We got Paul, yeah.
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: All right, Paul, how are you?
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 6: I'm great.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 11: Hey, I just did a road trip from Utah to
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 11: Wash the Gorge in Washington for three nights at Dave
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 11: Matthews Band at the Gorge.
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: Beautiful venue.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 11: If you've never been there for music, go there. But
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 11: pulling a trailer on our roads is a pain because
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 11: despite all the stuff we can do, we can't seem
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 11: to level out road repairs properly. So you're going along
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 11: the road, and either the repair is two inches below
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 11: the level of the road, two inches above, and it's
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 11: just bouncing the shit out of it. Freaking road's fixed.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 3: If you're out there at UDOT or Highway Patrol or whatever,
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 3: you heard what Paul just said.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: That's a grievance from Paul. Level the road out. He's
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: trying to haul a trailer up and back. All right.
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 3: Leslie on the text line, grievance with Utah football. Oh, wait,
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 3: this is not Leslie. This is 6680. Grievance with Utah football.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 3: Haven't cut our teeth against top-tier competition. Would love to
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 3: see what the team is really made of.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: Otherwise, no.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 3: That's not a grievance. They just haven't played anybody yet.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 3: That's a grievance with that being a grievance.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 4: Come on. Schedule tougher, okay?
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 5: I think that was the revised grievance there.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: It's just grievance with.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 3: Your lack of patience, all right? They're going to get
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 3: tough competition sooner than later.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 4: I think that it's okay.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 5: I'm one, too, that I want to see entertaining games,
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 5: and I want to see games against teams that are near.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 4: The same level, I think, like we all do, right?
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 5: We want to see challenging games that are fun and
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 5: entertaining and And if you're a Utes fan, you want
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 5: to see the Utes win all those challenging games, right? Also, though,
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 5: I think I've begrudgingly been okay with the fact that
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 5: there's no preseason. So, yeah, you're going to play an
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 5: FCS team at the start of the year because you
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 5: don't have a preseason.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 4: Every game counts.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, you're going to schedule a soft one to
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 5: help you have a preseason game that counts as a
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 5: win on your schedule, hopefully, if you don't play below
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 5: your level, right? And you're going to have the group
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 5: of six team that you're expected.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 4: To win early on or below.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, when they scheduled Arkansas, they hoped that it
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 5: would be a challenge.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 4: It didn't end up being one, right? But, like, you're
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 4: going to have these.
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 5: I think I've come to terms with these are okay
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 5: because you've got to have some tune-up games.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 3: Leslie on the text line, my grievance, because of NIL
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 3: and all the money that players are getting, it seems
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 3: that free education is not very important. There are many
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 3: people who could never afford to go to college, many
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 3: people who are paying off big student loans in order
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 3: to go to college. I feel like we've gotten away
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 3: from appreciation that we are given a college degree. It's
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 3: all about money. This one is tough for me, Leslie.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 3: So I've said many times on the air, and I'll
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 3: say it again, most people... In a college football program,
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 3: we're talking about 100 people. Now, 105 guys on a roster, okay?
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: Most of those.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 3: People aren't even, quote-unquote, at the end of the day,
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 3: they're not even worth the scholarship, right? And when I
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 3: say worth the scholarship, I don't mean as human beings.
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: I mean as football players, right? Most people don't contribute. Like,
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 3: let's say it's $ 100, 000 for your four-year.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 2: Education, and I know that's probably low-balling.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 3: Most people are not contributing in their time $ 100, 000 of
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 3: value to a team.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 2: It's just not the case.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 3: For every quality contributor that you find on a college
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 3: football team, there are three or four guys that are
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 3: not quality contributors, that are not pulling their weight, so
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 3: to speak. And now that there's NIL on top of that,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I've always thought that the scholarship was more
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: than enough.
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 2: Of course that would be my.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 3: Perception as a low-life scrub nobody walk on, right? Like,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 3: all I wanted was a scholarship. scholarship guys that are
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 3: bringing in money, that are playing, that are the reason
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 3: your butt is in the seats, those guys have always
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 3: had and definitely now have a real case of being like, hey,
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 3: pay me.
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: Share some of this money with me.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 3: The issue I have with it now, with what NIL became,
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: is that it's not sharing in the profit with the people.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: It's still like guesswork.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 3: And if you're paying a freshman to come and maybe
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 3: he works out, maybe he doesn't, and whether coaches are
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: willing to admit it or not, it is going to
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 3: skew the level of opportunity you give to a player.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 3: how much you're paying that person. So it's not a
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 3: waste of money, right?
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 6: So, yes.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 2: On one hand, I echo your grievance.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 3: On the other, though, true NIL, if it was actually
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 3: designed and executed the way that it was supposed to be,
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 3: like philosophically the way that it was supposed to be done,
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 3: NIL would be a good thing because you're helping the
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 3: labor force that generates the billions of dollars in college football.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: Share in that bounty.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 9: But you're right.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 2: That's not where we're at. That's not what it is.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: That's not what we've done. So I will half echo
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 2: the grievance. Derek, our most loyal texter.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 3: Grievance, if you're at a left turn and have a
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 3: green light, if you have a four-car length to turn,
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 3: please go. If I miss the light because you didn't go,
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to be happy. Four-car length, depending on
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 3: how fast the oncoming traffic is going, you're probably safe.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: All right. But proceed. Proceed.
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 3: With realistic caution. Here's my grievance from 0175. My kid's
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: elementary school has banned playing tag during.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: What?
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 3: They banned playing tag during recess. I don't know why
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 3: tag would be banned. I guess tag sets up weird
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 3: dynamics sometimes for the slow kids. But as someone who
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 3: was not... In my younger years, I was portly. And
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 3: I didn't get faster until I grew a little bit height-wise.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 3: So tag wasn't always super fun for me. I was
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 3: never the fastest kid. I still wanted to play tag.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 5: I wonder, are the kids at his kid's school, are
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 5: they shoving instead of just tagging? Is it getting a
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 5: little too violent in that way?
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 4: But I don't know.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 5: It seems like an overreaction to whatever it is that's
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 5: causing it.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 3: If that's the case, you take the kids who are
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 3: going too hard out of the tag.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: You don't take tag away from the kids. That's crazy.
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever elementary school that is, bring tag back, you weirdos.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 3: 9590 says, Grievance, why didn't we get a better college?
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 3: for UFC 323? This is happening on the Utah bye week,
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 3: October 3rd at the Delta Center, so right after the
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: Utah Mammoth puck drop on the season. the UFC is
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 3: bringing it. It's a numbered event. They're supposed to be big.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 3: Things did not come together. This is a bad card.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 3: There's no other way to put it. We've been spoiled
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 3: in the past. You've had some really cool fights in
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 3: the past. You've had some really cool finishes in main
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: events in the past. The head kick knockout come from
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 3: behind victory for Leon Edwards over Kamaru Usman was amazing.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 3: The Poirier versus Gaethje head kick knockout. I mean, all
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 3: of it was amazing. This one kind of stinks. I
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 3: will say, though, I believe it's the first fight on
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 3: the card. Our own local guy, Court McGee, is having
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 3: his retirement fight. He's 40 years old. He's been in
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 3: the UFC for like 20 years now. He has made
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: a real life and a real career. He has represented
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 3: our home state well. Court McGee is having what I
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: believe to be his very last fight on his contract
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 3: and in his career. And that is reason enough to
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 3: be there and to go. To give an ovation to
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 3: our guy.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: Our homegrown... product.
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 3: Closing out his career at the Delta Center in Salt
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 3: Lake City. I hope it's as good as he dreams
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 3: that it should be because, man, he's had a really,
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 3: really impressive career. The card itself, kind of a stinker,
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 3: but shout out.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: To Court McGee.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 3: We're going to try to get him on in the
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 3: next couple of weeks to talk about, you know, if
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 3: indeed he thinks this is the true retirement and everything else.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 12: 8441.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 3: My grievances for parents who are living their athletic careers
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 3: through their children are If your daughter strikes out in
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 3: a game, it's not the end of the world.
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: There's no need to walk over to.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 3: The dugout and chew her out and take her energy
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 3: out of the game, particularly when our team depends on
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 3: her energy. Look, parents are the number one problem in
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 3: youth sports. We've talked about how it's so expensive and
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: it's so crazy. Parents are the number one problem. It's just,
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 3: that's the case, right?
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: Don't be the bad parent in sports.
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 6: My.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 3: My daughter's playing machine pitch right now. And there's a
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 3: couple people.
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 2: She's seven.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: There's a couple people who think that their child's future
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 3: and scholarship rides on what's going on in these seven-year-old
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 3: baseball games.
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 2: And it is obnoxious. It is absurd. I have a
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: real problem biting my tongue.
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 3: But I know what happens if I don't bite my
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 3: tongue and then people get lippy with me. I'm not
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 3: real good in those scenarios. So I do bite my tongue.
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 3: But grievance echoed. Do not live vicariously through your children
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 3: for your musical career, for your athletic career that you
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 3: didn't have, for whatever dating life you feel like you
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 3: missed out on.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: Don't be a weirdo parent. It's the worst.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 3: Ryan says, I second Paul on the roads. I'm constantly
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 3: pulling a trailer, and I swear chiropractors in UDOT are
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 3: in cahoots.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 2: Utah has terrible roads. As soon as you cross the border,
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 2: roads are fine.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 3: Big chiropractic and big UDOT might be in cahoots.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 2: They might be making sure that your spine gets rattled
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 2: by uneven roads.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 5: Maybe big mechanics, too, because it's going to take your
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 5: car out of alignment just like your body gets out
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 5: of alignment with the chiropractic. Maybe it's a three-industry thing
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 5: going on here.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: Wally, I don't think you're going to find a lot
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: of people to echo this grievance, Wally.
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 3: My grievance is against Ted Lasso. The first season was
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 3: mildly amusing. By the end of the series, I was
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 3: wishing for every character to die. Even worse, it gave
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 3: birth to trash like shrinking and hacks. Give me some
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 3: dark humor. Look, you can find dark humor, Wally. You
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 3: just go to HBO.
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 2: You're on the wrong network, dude.
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 3: Don't air a grievance against Ted Lasso. Ted Lasso is
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 3: feel-good comedy. It's emotional.
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 2: It's, like, heartfelt.
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be your cup of tea. That's
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 3: totally fine. But don't air a grievance against Ted. Air
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 3: a grievance against your own inability to find the dark
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 3: humor that is all over the place.
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: In television. Come on, man. Uh, Isaac.
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 3: As a fellow resident of the avenues, I second the
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 3: agreements of drivers that speed down the hill past my house,
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 3: but I'll add props to my retired neighbor, Mark, who
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 3: will sit on his porch and scream 20 at every
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 3: car that zooms by.
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark. That's amazing. That's so good.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 6: Um.
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 3: Isaac, please text me what street you live on in
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 3: the avenues. I need to find Mark, and I need to.
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 5: You need to pull up a lawn chair and just
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 5: watch him yell at cars.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah. 20.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: It is 20. 20 is.
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 3: You know why I like the avenues speed limit of 20?
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 3: Everyone's going to go faster than 20, right? Everyone's going
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 3: to go 25, maybe up to 30. That's kind of reasonable.
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 3: Even on a neighborhood street, you could be going 25
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 3: miles an hour and still be.
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 2: In control of... as long as you're not looking at
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 2: your phone.
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 3: You can still, like, 25 is probably okay on most
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 3: neighborhood streets. You start creeping up into the 45s that
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 3: people are hauling down my hill, yeah, 20, that's too much. Wow,
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 3: we've got a lot of grievances coming in today. We've
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 3: got to take one last break here at Smith's. I'll
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 3: close it out with some more grievances. We'll give away
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 3: some tickets to Five Finger Death Punch. They are coming
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 3: next week to the Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater. Two
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 3: tickets if you can answer our trivia question. It's the
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 3: Sean O'Connell Show, wrapping up on a Friday next, ESPN
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 3: 700 and 92.1 FM.
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 7: This is the Sean O'Connell Show, your home of the
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 7: best inside of your Utes. Let's get back to OC
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 7: from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 2: This is amazing. We just had somebody walk in.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 3: With a 2008 Utah undefeated national champion shirt.
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: I love it. Great to see it, sir.
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 6: Go Utes.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 3: We're closing out the show here on ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM,
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 3: 614 West, 2600 South in Woods Cross. Tailgate passes, Smith's
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 3: gift cards. Big thanks to the Smith's Marketplace for treating
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 3: us so well every time they have us out. We'll
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 3: be out a couple more times during these home games. Oh,
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 3: my goodness, great stuff. We have a pair of tickets
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 3: to give away to Five Finger Death Punch coming next week,
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: September 22nd, to the Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater. If
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 3: you can answer this question, 877-353-0700, Josh Allen is climbing
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 3: the leaderboard for all-time rushing.
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: Touchdowns in the NFL.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 3: Where is Josh Allen currently among all touchdown scores, rushing
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 3: touchdown scores, all-time in the NFL? We talked about this
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 3: earlier on the show. He had a couple last night.
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 3: He is climbing into a place that only running backs
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 3: are supposed to occupy in NFL statistical history. So where
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 3: is he at on the all-time list of touchdown scores,
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 3: rushing touchdown scores, As of today. 877-353-0700 for a pair
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 3: of tickets to Five Finger Death Punch. Motley Crue is
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 3: also coming to Utah. That'll be at the Utah First
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 3: Credit Union Amphitheater September 21st. Spence is going to give
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 3: away a pair of tickets on the drive today around
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 3: 4 p.m. So if you didn't win the tickets to
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 3: Five Finger Death Punch here, maybe some crew tickets for
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 3: you later. Okay. 8613 had a couple more grievances. In
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 3: the avenues there are There are many two-way stop signs.
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 3: After picking up my kid once a week, someone can't
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 3: tell the difference between a two-way and a four-way and
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 3: pull out right in front of me. I've had a
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 3: few narrow misses, and now I just expect it.
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 2: Come on, people.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the two-way stop sign and the four-way stop, that
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 3: can get pretty crazy. Somebody, Darius, said, oh, see, you
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 3: remind me of Keith Jardine, the fighter. That's my grievance.
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 3: That is not a compliment at all. Respect to the
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 3: Dean of Mean, Keith Jardine, as a fighter, but he
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 3: is not a handsome man. That's not good. That is
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 3: not a flattering comparison. Okay, this is amazing. 1466, echoing
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 3: grievance here. My grievance, people who stay directly in front
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 3: of the doors at restaurants and fast food places to
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 3: have a conversation with their partner. Seriously, people are trying
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 3: to get in and out. You've got an entire parking lot, sidewalk,
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 3: probably have the state of Utah available to you. You
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 3: choose the exact two feet everyone needs to use to
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 3: enter the building. Move out of the way. Have your
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 3: conversation literally anywhere else. The doorway is not your personal
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 3: conference room. I think we have a problem with this
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 3: in the state of Utah and probably in the United
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 3: States in general. We get all wrapped up in our
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 3: own stuff all the time, and we stop when we're
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 3: supposed to still be moving. Top of escalator, bottom of escalator, doorways,
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 3: all that good stuff. So, yeah, that's a grievance. That's
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 3: a valid grievance. Big thanks to everyone who listened on
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 3: the show today. Thanks to all of you who joined us.
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 3: If you see me at the Utah game tomorrow, say hello.
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 3: Utah versus Utah State right here on your home of
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 3: the Utes, ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. And, yes, the
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 3: undefeated Utah shirt right in front of me. What a
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 3: great way to close out the show. Stay tuned for
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 3: the drive with Spence Checketts. We'll do the Sean O'Connell
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 3: show again on Monday reacting to the weekend.
• 2:27:38
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