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Mike Tomlin OUT in Pittsburgh, Guy Haberman joins the show · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume.
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  Speaker 2: What is going On Everybody? John Middlecoff three Now podcast,
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  Speaker 2: How Are We Doing Today? We I recorded with a
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  Speaker 2: good friend of mine. He officiated my wedding. I was
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  Speaker 2: the best man in his wedding. He has been the
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  Speaker 2: voice of the forty nine ers this year, filling in
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  Speaker 2: for both our good friends Greg Papa, who's been battling leukemia.
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  Speaker 2: He's called Warrior Games, A's games. He does Big ten Networks,
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  Speaker 2: so he's done Signetti Games's. He works with Yogi Roth.
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  Speaker 2: He's done Fox stuff. He's a stud play by play guy.
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  Speaker 2: We used to have a radio show together. He's the
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  Speaker 2: guy that got me into the kind of this business
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  Speaker 2: and world. Then we had a podcast together after you know,
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  Speaker 2: I essentially got us in a little trouble in the
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  Speaker 2: radio world. But Guy Haberman will join us. And I
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  Speaker 2: was playing out just doing that because we talked for
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  Speaker 2: like an hour. But while we were talking, he maybe
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  Speaker 2: right before the news broke about Mike Tomlin, who has
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  Speaker 2: officially resigned, said it'll you know, I'm stepping away, so
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  Speaker 2: we'll discuss the Mike Tomlin situation, which I think we
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  Speaker 2: all saw as inevitable. Still it actually happened, which you know,
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  Speaker 2: you can't ever bet on till it actually did, and
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  Speaker 2: it finally did. So some thoughts there, and that'll be
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  Speaker 2: So let's just let's talk Mike Tomlin. I do want
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  Speaker 2: to start with Mike Tomlin because it wasn't shocking at all, right,
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  Speaker 2: whether he was fired, whether he quit, whether it just
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  Speaker 2: was going to end. The writing has been on the
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  Speaker 2: wall for years, and even Mike Tomlin could understand that
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  Speaker 2: after last night, one of his team's not remotely close. Two.
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  Speaker 2: They're very old. They have no answer at the most
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  Speaker 2: important position. They're not bad enough to draft high enough.
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  Speaker 2: They have a bunch of older players that make a
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  Speaker 2: ton of money. You know, when the house is on fire,
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  Speaker 2: you got to run out. And I think Mike Tomlin
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  Speaker 2: just went sprinting outside. He was a prideful guy. He
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  Speaker 2: probably overstayed. Is welcome in the sense that I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if we'll ever see a coach go essentially twenty
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  Speaker 2: years ever again. Like look at Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan.
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  Speaker 2: They both Shawn started when he was thirty and Kyle
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  Speaker 2: started I think when he was thirty nine or forty,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe he was a little younger thirty seven. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think either one of those guys are going to
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  Speaker 2: be coaching nineteen years for the Rams in the forty
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  Speaker 2: nine ers, because you know what, I would bet against
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  Speaker 2: it when you factor in burnout and wealth. Right, Mike
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  Speaker 2: Tomlin's been making big money for a while, but early
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  Speaker 2: on in his career, I would say it was probably
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  Speaker 2: a little easier of the NFL world. It's changed dramatically
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  Speaker 2: with social media. It's changed dramatically. Once Ben Roethlisberger retired
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  Speaker 2: and this didn't like directly impact him. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: he worked with this guy, right, and they weren't like
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  Speaker 2: business partners in the sense they all both worked for
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. They're just rivals. You have to think that
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  Speaker 2: the Harbaugh thing when he was let go last week,
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  Speaker 2: like it just felt over for everyone involved. We all
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  Speaker 2: know people that got divorced. It's like, yeah, their relationship
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  Speaker 2: was probably over two years ago. It happens all the time,
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  Speaker 2: And I would argue the best thing that's ever happened
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  Speaker 2: to me is failing in the NFL. Like you know,
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  Speaker 2: Chip Kelly comes in, I get let go. And when
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  Speaker 2: my radio show was canceled both times it excelled my
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  Speaker 2: career forward, partly because you look back and you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yet it was off for a while before that happened.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're Mike Tomlin, you're coaching the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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  Speaker 2: I completely understand the pride you take in holding that job,
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  Speaker 2: which is historic in this country, being the head coach
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  Speaker 2: for that franchise. But he couldn't stand there on the
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  Speaker 2: sideline after watching decades of football at the highest level
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  Speaker 2: and Gil, I still want to do this shit? And
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  Speaker 2: he answered it today, I don't. I'm out now. To me,
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  Speaker 2: the most logical place people have been reporting for a
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  Speaker 2: while that television. Obviously television networks are going to be interested. Florio,
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  Speaker 2: I think like within the last month said that Tomlin
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  Speaker 2: started contemplating this. I think the thing that makes the
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  Speaker 2: most sense is Amazon. Like Tomlin to me, gets wasted
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  Speaker 2: in a studio show with fifteen other people around a desk.
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  Speaker 2: To me, I want Mike Tomlin in a booth calling
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  Speaker 2: a game. Now does he want to travel city to
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  Speaker 2: city and do that. Well, what if Amazon gives him
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  Speaker 2: the jet so his travel actually isn't that bad. And
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  Speaker 2: if he wants to, I'm sure he's got a second home,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in Florida Miami, which who knows. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: they're contacting him that if he truly is going to
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  Speaker 2: take a year off, I think Amazon makes a lot
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  Speaker 2: of sense. Herbstreet's done a respectable job, given that they
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  Speaker 2: wanted McVeigh, they wanted John Lynch. Those guys wouldn't leave.
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  Speaker 2: Now you can get an NFL guy in there for
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  Speaker 2: this last year of AL and who knows, maybe Tomlin
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  Speaker 2: loves it. You know, Bill Cower went to TV, never left.
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  Speaker 2: John Madden went to TV, never left. John Gruden went
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  Speaker 2: into TV and was there for a decade. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 2: go on to TV, it's like, wait, you're gonna pay
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  Speaker 2: me the same amount I made for working ninety hours
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  Speaker 2: a week. I can't lose a game and everyone likes
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  Speaker 2: me unless I'm Romo. Then people turn on you. But
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  Speaker 2: like more than likely, Mike Tomlin would get rave reviews,
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  Speaker 2: The critics would be pretty silent. It would be a
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  Speaker 2: lot of positive reinforcement, kind of like this life fifty
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  Speaker 2: three couple of years, take a deep breath, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe over the course of the next
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks some of these teams, Atlanta, Miami get
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  Speaker 2: pretty aggressive with him. It's been well reported he's still
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  Speaker 2: under contract. This is kind of a Sean Payton and
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  Speaker 2: if he did what Sean Payton did, like if it's
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  Speaker 2: if it's actually taken at face value everything they're saying,
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  Speaker 2: we believe it's one hundred percent the right move. Sean
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  Speaker 2: Payton said, this team sucks. I want out. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to quit coaching, but I got to get out
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  Speaker 2: of here. And then they made it complicated when he
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  Speaker 2: went to Denver. I don't think Mike Tomlin like I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they're getting a first round pick for him,
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  Speaker 2: but I think the Steelers, you know, he doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to be there, would gladly take a couple threes or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and I think teams would trade for him. I would
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  Speaker 2: imagine we'll see, you know, Miami as a new general manager.
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  Speaker 2: I guess Atlanta has neither. I guess they got Matt Ryan,
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  Speaker 2: who's gonna hire both guys. I would imagine these teams
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  Speaker 2: desperately want to talk to him. And this gets back
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  Speaker 2: to John Morrow's brother going to John Harbu's house. If
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  Speaker 2: John Harborough makes sense, Mike Tomlin makes sense. I've been
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  Speaker 2: saying forever Mike Tomlin to the New York Giants. Now
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  Speaker 2: that was before John Harbaugh just got shit canned on
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  Speaker 2: the drive home on a Tuesday afternoon. But I think
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  Speaker 2: we'd all agree, like Mike Tomlin, relative to what they
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  Speaker 2: had would be an all time upgrade. I mean, look
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  Speaker 2: at the coaching stretch that they have had for a
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  Speaker 2: decade plus. Obviously, the Miami Dolphins, there is some toughness,
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  Speaker 2: some leadership that they are desperately seeking. They should be
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  Speaker 2: all over it for him, Now, does he believe that
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  Speaker 2: that's a place that is conducive toward competing and winning.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. They obviously have some financial issues with
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  Speaker 2: their not because their owner's not rich, but because of
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  Speaker 2: the TUA contract and the team's not that good. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta is pretty interesting, But the quarterback situation is a
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  Speaker 2: little iffy. Like if you're not a huge believer in Pennix,
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  Speaker 2: he does have a currently has a torn acl Cousins
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  Speaker 2: is under contract. Are you gonna bring him back at whatever,
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  Speaker 2: thirty five forty million dollars. So we've just seen Tomlin.
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  Speaker 2: If any human being goes wherever I go next, there
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  Speaker 2: has to be some sort of stability at quarterback. It
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  Speaker 2: would be Mike Tomlin after what he just experienced for
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  Speaker 2: the last several years, where I can see John Harbob
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  Speaker 2: being a little more open minded, like he pivoted through
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  Speaker 2: the situation they drafted Lamar at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: first round. Or if you're Tomlin, you can't take a
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  Speaker 2: job which is essentially like the job you just left,
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  Speaker 2: which many would consider over the history of the sports
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  Speaker 2: it's one of the great jobs of all time. What's
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  Speaker 2: the stat They've had three coaches since like the sixties. Now,
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  Speaker 2: granted one of the guys was there forever, but they've
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  Speaker 2: had two coaches since the mid nineties. So the one
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  Speaker 2: thing with the Ravens and with the Steelers is the
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  Speaker 2: support you get with ownership. But part of that support,
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  Speaker 2: like even if we nitpicked Mike Tomlin, and obviously Steeler
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  Speaker 2: fans and NFL fans have he never lost I mean
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  Speaker 2: he lost games, but he never had Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Tomlin had that one four and you know thirteen season
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  Speaker 2: like that did not exist. So when you never do that,
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  Speaker 2: you gain a little bit more bulletproof. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: like wearing a bulletproof vest. In terms of being a coach,
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  Speaker 2: it's harder for them to come at you. And because
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  Speaker 2: the moment you start losing, they get rid of everybody, right,
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  Speaker 2: John Harbaugh miss the playoffs nunder five hundred to see ye,
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  Speaker 2: Andy Reid, you know, one awful year gone. But when
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  Speaker 2: you said every years, it's harder for them to do it,
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  Speaker 2: even as you get farther and farther removed from the
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl. So I personally hope Tomlin does Amazon as
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  Speaker 2: a consumer and as someone that watched all these Thursday
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  Speaker 2: night games, does a lot of content about him around
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  Speaker 2: that game. In some of those games, you know better
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  Speaker 2: than others, So sign me up for that. But I
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  Speaker 2: do think these teams, like, if you're Matt Ryan, you
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  Speaker 2: want to start strong, get a guy in there that
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  Speaker 2: knows what he's doing. You're Steven Ross, you've been dreaming
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  Speaker 2: about a big name coach forever, makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously he's gonna have suitors. What would they demand back?
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  Speaker 2: Because the Saints truly did not want to like get
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  Speaker 2: Rid of Sean Payton. This one felt like, yeah, Tomlin
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  Speaker 2: might have been like I'm over it, but like you
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  Speaker 2: guys were over it too, so like fourth round pick
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  Speaker 2: that we're a long way from that. Who knows if
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  Speaker 2: he even takes interviews like John Harbaugh's kind of actively
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  Speaker 2: taking interviews or at least making contact. Obviously Tomlin will,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe he truly is just cool with just moving
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  Speaker 2: on and taking a year that. Who knows. Sometimes a
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  Speaker 2: year turns into ten and maybe he becomes some legendary
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  Speaker 2: TV guy, or maybe truly is a year and he
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  Speaker 2: misses the grind. It's a long time in one place,
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  Speaker 2: in the pressure, a lot of eyeballs, big time franchise,
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  Speaker 2: pretty legendary run, right. I do people make fun of
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  Speaker 2: it because part of I made fun of it because
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  Speaker 2: it felt like it was never gonna lead to this
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  Speaker 2: day when it just felt like kind of was time,
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  Speaker 2: like a couple of years ago. It is pretty impressive
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  Speaker 2: what he did, just refuse to have a shitty season,
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  Speaker 2: refuse to bottom out. I mean, the forty nine ers
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  Speaker 2: last year went six and eleven. A couple year ago,
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  Speaker 2: the Rams had like the top five, top five or
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  Speaker 2: six pick now granted it. It went to the Alliance
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  Speaker 2: right for the staff for trade. But like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of great have awful years. What was the Chiefs record
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  Speaker 2: this year? Six to eleven? Like, it's it's just it's inevit.
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  Speaker 2: We get a couple of injuries, weird things happen. How
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  Speaker 2: is everybody except that guy? And it truly is. I
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  Speaker 2: think now that he's just in whatever a situation is, unemployed, retired,
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  Speaker 2: quit actively seeking employment in the media industry, we can
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  Speaker 2: kind of just that was. That was the hell of
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  Speaker 2: a run that was. That was really impressive, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's going to really age well. I
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  Speaker 2: also think there's a power in getting away for a while, right.
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  Speaker 2: I think about this a lot in the podcasting world,
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  Speaker 2: like do I do too much content? Sometimes I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: during the football season's kind of the business I'm in,
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  Speaker 2: And I try to think about that a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more in the in the slower times, like sometimes just
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  Speaker 2: not being all the time is not the worst thing.
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  Speaker 2: It definitely works in the coaching world, where you know,
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  Speaker 2: five years after Gruden got fired from Tampa, people like
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  Speaker 2: this got the greatest thing since slice breads. Like, did
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  Speaker 2: you guys watch the end of his Tampa Bay career.
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  Speaker 2: It did not go and I'm pro Gruden entertains me
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  Speaker 2: on the internet, but I remember thinking when he got
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  Speaker 2: back with the Raiders, I'm like, they just hired this
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  Speaker 2: guy's a superstar. They're like, eh, maybe, but the perception
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  Speaker 2: and the buzz and the media hype. That's what all
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  Speaker 2: my scouting friends always tell me. They got to be
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  Speaker 2: very careful about that February, March, and April leading up
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  Speaker 2: to the draft, because you can let it all cloud you.
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  Speaker 2: You hear what Middle Coop's saying, You hear what Todd
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  Speaker 2: mcshay's saying. You here what Daniel Jeremiah saying, and all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, it starts messing with your own mind.
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  Speaker 2: That's the way this world works, right, And I think
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  Speaker 2: with the coach like Tomlin, who is so good in
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  Speaker 2: front of a microphone and just so unique, like his experiences,
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  Speaker 2: obviously the success he had, the people he's coached, the
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  Speaker 2: people he's coached against, Like they think of the eras
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  Speaker 2: in which he coached against. He's been in the league against,
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  Speaker 2: like the Farves and the Akmans up through the Caleb Williams.
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  Speaker 2: He's coached against them all. So I think he's I
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  Speaker 2: hope he does Amazon. That's what I'm rooting for him
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  Speaker 2: to do Amazon. But I do think there would be
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  Speaker 2: some massive massive now he's I think he was one
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  Speaker 2: of the higher paid coaches in the league, like fifteen
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  Speaker 2: sixty million dollars a year. I would you be shocked
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  Speaker 2: at the Miami Dolphins, like here's five for one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's easy to say, like, eh, money's not everything.
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  Speaker 2: It's like you see that contract, Like I just I'll
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  Speaker 2: keep coaching. I'll live his South Peach. But Amazon can
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  Speaker 2: do the same thing. So fascinating to watch this play out.
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  Speaker 2: I think we all saw this coming in some former fashion.
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  Speaker 2: It was just inevitable, And to me, it really felt
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  Speaker 2: more inevitable hardball last week. The not just the outcome
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  Speaker 2: of that game, but as the game win. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: these guys are getting clowned and this is not the
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  Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, this is not the Andy reikansay chief, this
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  Speaker 2: is Uston Texans. You know, I guess they've won the
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  Speaker 2: division a bunch of times over the years and won
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  Speaker 2: some home playoff games. They're going to Hinz Field. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's called something different now in the cold and
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  Speaker 2: beating your ass and you look around you're like, we
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of older guys. It's like it's time.
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  Speaker 2: So glad this saga is over, you know, because it
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  Speaker 2: was a topic that I personally was a little tired
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  Speaker 2: of talking about because it just kind of felt like
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  Speaker 2: it went in circles. And now we have like it's
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  Speaker 2: over and Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers can go
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  Speaker 2: on with their way. And obviously one story that we
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  Speaker 2: will continue to give thoughts on is like who are
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  Speaker 2: they going to hire? My initial thought would be some
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  Speaker 2: like they're gonna want a tough guy, Like they're not
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  Speaker 2: going Mike Tomlin to Mike McDaniel, so defensive guys, tough.
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  Speaker 2: Brian Flores worked there a couple of years ago. Robert
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  Speaker 2: Salah kind of feels like a Pittsburgh Steeler, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Frank Signetti or Frank Signetti's brother, Kurt Signetti is born
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  Speaker 2: and raised in Pittsburgh, obviously having a lot of success
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  Speaker 2: in Indiana. Now, granted he's never coached, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: in the pros. Longtime college guy could be wrong on that.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he's had but I'm pretty sure it was from
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  Speaker 2: NC State to Bama to becoming a head coach for
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  Speaker 2: a long time, that that would be pretty risky, but hell,
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  Speaker 2: the Steelers would be like, well, we hired Mike Tomlin
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  Speaker 2: once upon a time. Most of you guys had never
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  Speaker 2: heard of him. I think he'd been one year defensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinator for Minnesota. Now granted, looking back, it's like he
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  Speaker 2: was coaching the DBS with with for Gruden and Tony
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  Speaker 2: Dungee with Tampa Bay. Last time I checked, two of
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  Speaker 2: the four DB's are in the Hall of Fame, So
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  Speaker 2: pretty good group. I think John Lynch swears by the guy,
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  Speaker 2: and it's it's just an all timer. A little shocking, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: it's probably the closest thing over the last twenty five
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  Speaker 2: years to McVeigh. When it happened, it was a kind
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  Speaker 2: of pre definitely pre social media, but pre the Internet.
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  Speaker 2: The power of the Internet, right, you know, Reddit and
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: all these places didn't exist. But it would have been
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the equivalent of that now would have been like who
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: they just hire? And clearly they got it right because
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: he went on to be one of the best coaches
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: of his generation and now they got to try to
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: replace it, and it's not easy to do, right, it's
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: they went from Coward to Tomlin. I say this forever
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: about quarterbacks, like what going from Farv to Rogers to
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Love that's pretty lucky a lot of time even far
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: to Rogers to some scrub and going what the run
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: they've been on? Even back to Chuck Nole is who
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I don't remember coaching a game, but always ready it
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: was pretty good. And the Clips in the seventies obviously
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: had some squads, won some super Bowls. Is good luck
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: with placing them. And I think one thing different that
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the vibe I get from people in that world is
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the Steelers aren't as good in the front office anymore.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: That's a knock, and that to me is a big
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: difference between the Ravens and the Steelers. The Ravens front
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: office is still viewed as top notch in the NFL.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers is not. So who they can get
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: to sign up with their operation is gonna be fascinating
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: and something to monitor also because like kind of a
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: bottom out job, like if you get hired by the Ravens. Bushaty,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I guess I haven't even seen this price conference yet.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Today I saw his quote saying that that they want
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to extend Lamar Jackson. Obviously he's on the books next
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: year for seventy five million dollars. But if you sign
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: up for the Ravens as a coach, whether you're Stefanski Sala,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Harpbaugh, whoever it is, right, Marcus Freeman,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you name it, you have a several year window. Like
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the pressure, anything less than the playoffs next year would
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: be a failure. And I'd argue, if you come into
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, they're gonna want playoff victories. Pressure is ten
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: out of ten, I think with it'sburg. You know a
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: lot of people want nuke this thing. Let's finally bottom
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: out for a year. Let's take a deep breath, let's
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: shed some of these salaries. So the Ravens Steelers, who
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: have always been kind of a parallel operation competing against
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: each other, and both have always the Ravens had a
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: couple of down years over hardbast ten year, but for
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the most part, they've been really good twelve of eighteen
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: years making the playoffs. That you want six divisions. It's
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the Ravens expectation, and rightfully so is next year we're
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: competing for the Super Bowl. And I would imagine the
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: gambling odds. You know, in March April May they will
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: be one of the Super Bowl favorites. The Steelers will not.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And I think the Steelers are going to for the
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: first time, probably in franchise history, take a long look
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: in the mirror and say we're gonna need a transition year,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: and honestly, I think a lot of fans will be like, oh,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: thank god, we needed this, because watching us go ten
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and seven and getting beaten like a drum at home
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: is not fun. It's actually kind of tiresome at this point,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: which you go, well, and I love when I hear
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: people say this. Most teams in the league would die
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to have that. Well, yeah, the Steelers have had that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: now for forty five years, so their expectations are a
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: little bit different than the Raiders or the Arizona Cardinals. Right,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: They're like, listen, we're cool with going to the playoffs if
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: we have a shot, but we know we have no shot,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: so we'd rather just have one year, go four wins
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: and be like drafting in the top five and like
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: turn our thing around. If the Chiefs have a second
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: run in them, it will be because of this offseason
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: and this draft, specifically, it will change the course of
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: their franchise. Well, why were they able to do it?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: They won six and eleven. It sucked now. It was
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: easier to do for them because they had just been
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: to five to six Super Bowls. Steelers haven't won a
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: playoff game and what's see your January seventeen to like
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen Season's been a while and honestly didn't
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: feel like it wasn't even close. I mean, they've been
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: blown out in their last three playoff games against high
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: end competition. So props to Mike Tomlin. Hell of a run,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: all time great NFL figure and the one thing the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: NFL is very lucky at before we dive into guy
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: here and Tomlin fits. This is the key to this
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: business right now. Obviously, the games are fun and gambling
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and talking about what happens for the sixty minutes this
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: weekend throughout the season is the main business model of
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the NFL. But it's driven by the characters. And obviously
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the players are characters, but the coaches now are so
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: famous and the coach's personalities help drive this whole thing.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: You need not just main characters, but supporting actors, and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I just think you get that. Like Mike Tomlin is
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: just a unique individual in NFL history. And I said
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: this one Sean McVay, remember when he was gonna like
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: quit and go to Amazon. It's like, Sean, you're still
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: so young. I hope you just stay in the NFL.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: We need you as a character in this whole thing
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: that entertains us all. So as long as Mike Tomlin
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: stays in the world, I'm cool with, right, Like, I
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: know they love the Sean Payton at Fox. I think
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: we're much better having Sean Payton coach than on television.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Like I think, big picture for Mike, I hope that
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: he comes back, like it doesn't just turn into a
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: John Madden wouldn't be the worst thing. I mean, if
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: he turns into a John Madden, I wouldn't blame him
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: that. That means he's very involved in the NFL too. But
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: like Rex Ryan does television for ESPN, he's kind of
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: irrelevant to me, right, And he was a huge character
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: when he was in the league. And I'm not comparing
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Tomlin to Rex Thomas obviously had way more success, But
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: like we need big personalities, and not just with players
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: but with coaches. With assistant coaches, with everyone involved, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Mike is is just one of the better, you know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: non players and most important non players in the NFL.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: So hopefully just maybe one year hiatus and then he
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: comes back and we get him back on in big
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: games and people start saying any socks or he's good
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: or whatever. But that's that's all part of it. Mike
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Tomlin done with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's dive into Guy.
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• 25:51
  Speaker 2: friend Greg Papa, legendary voice in the Bay Area, nationally,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: just a legendary guy in the play by play broadcast world.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: He has been battling leukemia. So Haverman has been calling
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: the forty nine er games and just had some of
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the most legendary calls in the history of the franchise.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it's up to you to
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: determine that. It's subjective. I would put him up near
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the top, right there with oh Ns Owns, no other
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: than I'd say, this is his Netflix debut. But you know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Guy Haverman, you never know where he's been. Guy, what's up, bro?
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: It's great. I mean it probably is, unless there's like,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, I think it probably is my Netflix debut
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in terms of being on watching, not my debut. I've
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: watched a lot of Netflix.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: But did you say anything to Howie the other day?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I never ran into Howie. I passed Siriani in the hallway.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I saw a big Dom on the sideline with its
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: chain on. Never saw I was looking for Howie so
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I could say something to him. I did post a
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: picture from outside the link that said the house to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Middlecoff Belt. I don't know if you saw that. Never
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: saw Jeffrey Lurie. Uh yeah, didn't. A bunch of people
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't. Never Donovan McNabb, never saw him, the awesome one,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: never saw him.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: They Dom did one of those Chip Kelly moves with Domdy,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: get in the car. We're taking to the airport. You're
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: out of here. Bo.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I might be the last person to see Sirianni.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah. What was the weather like on the
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Was it obviously windy? Was it cold? Because Dom does
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: not even think. He just wears an undershirt in like
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: a jumpsuit, like he's got to be a little chilly,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't he.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I just remember I used to have a
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: photo of you standing next to Andy Reid on the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: sideline and like a big hoodie and Andy you're like
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: in the background. You must you were on the sideline
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: for that game for whatever must have been your first
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: year in Philly. I gotta go find that picture.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Might have been a training camp photo, now I was
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: a game.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was a game photo. Although I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: don't know why you were standing next to Andy ball game.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: It was nice Philly, warmest cold booth I've ever been in. Like,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you know, you open up the window when you're calling
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the game, and I great temperature. It was like twenty
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: one degrees with a windshield. The wind was a major factor.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know did it feel that way on television
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that the wind was a major factor.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, Brady was talking a lot about it, and
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I think when he did, have you gone back? Did
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: you watch TV copy after?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I'm an All twenty two guy.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: You know Brady he's doing the It was actually one
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: of his probably definitely standout moments of his career. The
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: ball thing about how you don't want the ball to
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: go up. It's like a golf shot, right, you want
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to keep it low. The problem. And I wanted to say, hey, Tom,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: you're six foot five, six foot six. Brock is six'
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: one ish, so it's harder for him to throw down,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: easier for you to throw those little edelman you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: slant routes out routes. But you know, he went. It
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: was a cool moment. It was actually pretty interesting.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I do like watching you see Tom as that. I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: did see Tom security in front, security and back as
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: he walked by. Burghart came by. As you know, he's
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a very cool guy.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Security two for him.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: No, he was, he was floating free. But you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I mean Jawan Jennings was a big time high school
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: quarterback prospect and he's six' three and he's the one
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that threw the probably the pass of the game To christian.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey tom always did have that down angle at the
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: ball coming out of his hand, hands AND i do
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: think that That juwan throw was with the. Wind the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: wind kind of comes across out of the open end
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: of the, stadium which is the opposite end of the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: stadium for where McCaffrey caught that, Ball so it was
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: kind of coming across and then down like that, direction
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: and that's right where the. Broadcast was it like right
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: where we're looking on, radio and when the ball Left jennings.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: HANDS i swear To god for the rest of my
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: life there was an alternate. Universe you know when you
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: watch a game or a movie back that you know
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: what's going to, happen and you're still like kind of
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: scared when The freddy comes around the corner or. Whatever,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: yeah there's still like a part of me that sees
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the ball going Over christian's head and him not catching.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: IT i thought time stood. STILL i swear to, you
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: time stood. STILL i could See, CHRISTIAN i could see
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the ball halfway in the, air and there was no
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: way McAffrey was going to catch that, ball and somehow he.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Did it's one of, truly it almost brings me to.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Tears what an incredible physical ACCOMPLISHMENT i. Witnessed it's one
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: of the greatest Things i've ever.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Seen, well how often do you? Watch definitely a lot On,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: saturdays but even a ton On. Sundays is a guy
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: can't quite track the. Ball and to track the ball
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: that clearly he thinks come into one, way he has
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: to turn the other. Way it's, OBVIOUSLY i, mean he's
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: overthrown he's a wide. RECEIVER i, mean it's it's it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: a play to be. Made maybe he would have to,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: leap but not having to, leap keeping his feet and
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: really will amazing that, thing which is kind of somewhat
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: ironic because that game he made incredible, catches, RIGHT i,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: mean obviously the game, winner but didn't was was it
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: two Weeks it wouldn't have been In seattle when he
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: high Pointed he high pointed a ball in that game
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: BECAUSE i thought it was kindle at. First, Yeah so you're,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: like he's making and he just had probably one of
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the worst moments of his career where even he, said
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: like the games on, me even though he didn't lose the.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Game but when Does christian ever drop a?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Ball so that ball in The Super bowl that feels
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: like one of his worst moments was the week Eighteen seattle.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Drop so you, thought when the ball's in the, air
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: no chance he's.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Catching the win was at the. Back it was going.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Over it was one thousand percent going over his. Head
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: and then even as it came, DOWN i was, like his,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: arms there's no way he's gonna get it turning over his.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Body i'm telling, you, Bro LIKE i am tearing, up
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: not because The niners. Won it was so are You you,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: know like when you hear people tell their, stories LIKE
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: i Saw Mickey mantle and he had a ball off
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the facade And Yankee. Stadium it was seven hundred and
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: seventeen feet like Whatever i'm telling. You nobody That Jerry, rice,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: LIKE i don't think ninety nine percent of receivers catch that.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Ball and the crazy part Is Juwan jennings threw a.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Pass it was better THAN i bet if you Went
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: nasbrock party in Mac, jones could they have made that.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Pass of course they would say. Yes BUT i think
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: if you have a quarterback throw that ball ten, times
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: like it maybe gets completed. Two it was just.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: You, know watching back the. Highlights Camb, our big local
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: station in Northern, california really goes through All. California it's
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: kind of LIKE, wfn.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: And you can probably hear it In. Arizona.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Scott'stay, YEAH i probably could find spots for. Sure you
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: thought after you made the call and you look down
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: you saw the flag that it fucked up your. Call,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: huh that's what a broadcaster.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Thinks WHAT i do IS i finish the call justin
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: because what you don't want to do is be, like,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: oh it's a, flag and then you don't finish the.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Call SO i tried to finish the, call and THEN
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: i had to acknowledge the, flag but it. Did it's
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: different on the road to the crowd's not that crowd
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: is All philadelphia crowd is you, know they don't do
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: any like in STADIUM pa all right, guy or like
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: you know Here i'm over here in section two, seventeen
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: we're giving Away chicky And pete gift certificates to the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: first fan that can name the Last eagle.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: To they just.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Play rock music and rap music and do crowd shots
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: every commercial, break and the place goes absolutely.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Bananas it is how Many niner games you do this
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: year on the?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: ROAD i think that was on the.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: ROAD i don't know.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: TEN i Think i'm not nine and one summer summer sot.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: De best uh it. Is you, know people always said
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that their fans or, assholes like were they saying goodbye
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: To kittle when he was getting card off?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: That you, KNOW i think there's sixty seven thousand people
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: in that, stadium So i'm sure of course there was
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: somebody by the. TUNNEL i don't, know it did not
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: feel like the crowd was Cheering George kittle's, injury you
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i, Mean, Like i'm sure that there's Eight
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you can literally find every opinion you want to find
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: if you go poll sixty seven thousand. People so not
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to excuse, It i'm sure it, happened but the crowd
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to me actually seemed kind of sympathetic to the.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Moment, yeah to, me, obviously it's a polarizing fan, base
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: But i've always, said Like i've only worked for ONE nfl,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: team there's corny apartment for the chiefs line of delineation
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: of like the franchises that really. Matter And i'm not
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: just talking like television. Ratings i'm talking when you work,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: there it, matters, Right and we've been. Lucky we were you,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: know you AND i for those they don't, know went
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: to high school. Together WHEN i became At Fresnel, state
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: you had gone To Fresnel state and you were doing radio.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Then so we moved in together with our BUDDY aj
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: who ended up who played basketball President state and then
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: he went to work At Sack. State so you AND
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: i lived together with him for a, year and then
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: he bounced after a, year so, like you, know the
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: forty we just got to you just kind of fan
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: where you grow up most of the, times like just
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: happened to get Like Barry bonds And Steve young when
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: we were. Kids like that's pretty. Lucky BUT i remember
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: going To. Philly it's like this really matters and it's
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: a great sports. Town but like The, eagles AND i
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: think Clearly chicago's a lot like this, Too like obviously
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: The bulls With Michael jordan are The. Cubs there's nothing
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: like The, bears and you feel it. Now it's like
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: The bears and The. Eagles it's like an sec environment.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: There and that's why it's like how long is the
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: time before you can? Boo, well it's like when your
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: offense looks like that the guy just paid three hundred
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: dollars to sit in the fourth row, level like he's
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: allowed to boo watching a team that can't complete a.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Pass that was what they booed by might count four
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: times during the, game and within thirty seconds the rock
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: music started and they just started going. Crazy, yeah but.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: It was like it's it's a it's it's for a
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: team coming off a Super bowl with basically the majority
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: of the. Nucleus it's all the same, cats, Right it's
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: like it's all it's it's the. Group so it's it's
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the same. Guys if it was the equivalent with the
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: forty nine. Ers these guys want to love the, team
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: but it's it is. Hard you you taught me WHEN
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: i got into. Radio if a baseball team is not,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: hitting it looks like they're not. Trying so just like
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: these guys don't Get, yeah they. Don't they just, uh
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: twenty six outs were.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Like Josh reddick was jogging the First.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: So in, football when you start going three and out a,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: lot AND i don't know what they ended, this you'd
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: probably have. This they led the league for a large.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Party they let it.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Le the league three out three, outs that's.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Matter, YEAH i bet. It historically top five drafting team
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: usually in that. CATEGORY i bet if we looked over
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the course of like twenty, years probably not like a
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Defending Super bowl champion divisionally.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Not two one thousand yard receivers and the reigning offensive
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: player of the.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Year did you feel like it was really angry in,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: there like as the game went, on like or it
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: was it just more?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: INTENSE i thought it was more. Disbelief, uh when we
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: when we rolled in on the bus shop with the.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Team when we rolled in on the, bus a lot
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: of middle, fingers but like honestly kind of endearing a
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: lot of, people you, know people like lyeing the. Bird
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: but it was kind of like they just knew they
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: had a standard to, uphold which is to flip you
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: off on the.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Team there's No Cynthia jones is in the media, there you,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: KNOW i think that's her. Name you, know do you
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: see that clip of her talking To Liam. Cohen, OH
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: i didn't know.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: WHO i didn't know the, name but.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah she like you, know most people have seen. It
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: that's that's the environment.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: There people should hire her to go to A syrianni press.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Conference how he would Fire he wouldn't want that type.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Atmosphere you're, right.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: That's what's great About that's what's. Great like somebody told
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: me A Larry brown though basketball coach quotes, like you,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: know some people are just happier when they're, mad which you,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: KNOW i think we could all identify with a little. Bit,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: yeah so, like, yeah they're gonna yell at, you but
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: they're gonna equal opportunity to yell at their own. Team
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: SO i think it's pretty, stunning not that they, lost
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: but that the defending. Champs you, know they were five
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: and zero at Home john in the. Playoffs they'd won
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: by twenty one points those five games With Jalen hurts
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: And Nick. Sirianni the only time they trailed at home
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs was three was a three point deficit
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: To washington last. Year then they scored fifty five on,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: them killed them like they have been killing people. Like
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: that's part of the story IS i was saying to
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: you on the phone the other, day how many guys
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: on The niners defense would have started for The eagles?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Defense maybe?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: One none of THE d linemen right this?
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Version, yep none of THE d.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Lineman obviously their linebackers are. Good lenore would be their second.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Corner would one of the other nine years safeties start
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: in place Of Marcus EPP's.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Well Stet stout is a fantastic, rookie But cooper's the
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: best slot corner in the league, Exactly so it's like
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: he's not beating him. Out, YEAH i don't, KNOW i
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: mean not. Many their defense is legitimately, good, RIGHT i,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: mean you remember in.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: The league since they traded for jail In phillips week
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: ten ten points a.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Game do you think like for The Bears packer, game
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: were you watching that team, Hotel kyle.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Uh Bears packer? Game, no that WAS i was team,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: room team meal. ROOM i was watching The carolina, game
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: but then back in the room for The bears.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Game so that's probably obviously devastating loss for The, packers
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: but that was a More it was like a religious
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: experience In. Chicago that was really. COOL i thought it
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: was a better win than a bad. Loss Especially Micah
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: parsons on. Crutches it's like if they played that game ten,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: times it might not look like, that but, like The
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: bears are gonna win a bunch of, games it's not that.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Crazy this game it felt, LIKE i feel like that's
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: one of the worst Losses i've ever seen when you
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: factor IN i Mean kyle after the game that picture
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: do you see the viral picture of like him Hugging
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: george and the eyes Of Brandon graham behind him have
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: this look of like why DID i pick? Up how
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: he's going? Comeback this could be me on That LIKE
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: i GOT i made My Super, bowls made my. Money
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: what AM i doing the eyes In Brandon graham seeing
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: like a fellow fallen warrior of like what AM i
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: doing this? For this is? Crazy that to me is
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: powerful As kyle's face Was Brandon graham's eyes in the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: background were, like damn this Is that's one of the
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: better photos that's not positive and like sports. HISTORY i, think,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: yeah those three, Men kittle's, Face kyle And Brandon. Graham
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Brandon graham's like one of the Great eagles of all
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: time and you just his face kind of told it. All,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Honestly it's like symbolizes The eagles almost like what are
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: we doing? Here can we just go? Home BUT i.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Didn't get that five for The? Eagles can we just
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: go home after the?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Game? YEAH i just think That and maybe part of
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: it why it feels as crazy is the way The
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: niners has just looked Against. Seattle WHO i don't, KNOW
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: i feel like The eagles have better players In. Seattle
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: you did, Both you've been around them. Both does it
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: feel that way or is?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: THAT i mean ON i would say it's, hard like it's.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Better got, better you, know more dynamic coach because he
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: calls the. Defense But dick's great defensive.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Coach Against shannian like he doesn't do points to The shannyan,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: guys but LIKE i Think vic is a known entity
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: To kyle. Right Like, kyle even Though vick has kind
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: of kicked his butt, previously he knows how to he
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: knows what's. COMING i Think mike McDonald is kind of
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: a New he's brought a new. Flavor that, SAID i
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: did think looking At seattle's guys on the field week,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: eighteen Nick, Eman worri their defensive. Line they're not quite
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: legion Of boom Like sherman all those guys walking Around Cam,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: chancellor but they did feel pretty physically like it felt, Like,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: okay this Is jimmy's And, joe's like that's what that
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: game felt. Like and then they were also schematically really
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: excellent on. Defense The, niners they were just never where
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: they were supposed to be, defensively and it screwed things
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: up week. Eighteen so it'll make the rematch really. Interesting
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: BUT i felt the same, way LIKE i remember you
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: AND i used to go to Like raider games all
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the time and we just stand on the field When
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Carson palmer would come out Or Peyton. Manning these guys are.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Humongous Ben roethlisberger And eli were, huge just blue, chippers
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and to, me Like seattle on defense and The eagles
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: on defense are just stacked with blue.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Chippers like If Leonard williams walks by you Or Jalen,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: carter do you notice that big of a.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Difference Leonard williams ran by me WHEN i was standing
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: on the field before the, game AND i THOUGHT i
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: was gonna fall. Over he's because he's so what do
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: you what do you scout say that he's, High he's
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: just like he's built like a six to three. Guy
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: but then just he's so, proportional right and then he
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: stretched out and. So BUT i, mean it's THE, nfl
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: it's a national, football Like, john that's the way these guys.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Look and then you look at The niners and they
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: got some guys starting in linebacker has and started in
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: sixty two weeks of. Football it's.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Crazy, yes it's the craziest. THING i, mean you've been
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: TO nba, finals Major League baseball, playoff you've been to it.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: All they're the craziest thing you've ever. Witnessed given like
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: even the forty nine, ers they truly believe going to
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: that guy and Then KITTLE I.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I would guarantee you not the. Team but if we
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: just pulled the organization pre, game like all, right who
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: thinks we can win this? GAME i bet there'd be
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of, like, well you, know we had a good.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Run we had a good. Run at least we've made
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: a playoff.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Game they made it weird long enough that all of a,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: sudden the other teams started thinking about.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: IT i think when you don't you think this, Too
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: like there are just some teams that are, weird Like
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: seattle's not, Weird philly's, weird and when you play a weird,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: team just like all the dynamics like Aj brown And
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: nixiana yelling at each other on the, sideline like why
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: is this team the? Fan like if you last WEEK
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: i went to A syriana YouTube and just like AM
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: i allowed to say YouTube and and press conference and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: like all the comments were just like fire this, Haterscope
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: eagles fans. Periscope SO i just think when YOU i
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: thought it was a big intangible, game, right like the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: margins are so thin if you're button, down if you're.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Disciplined niners only committed one, Penalty eagles committed like. SEVEN
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: i think almost and still they could have won the.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Game clear there's something AND i Think seattle's going to
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: have a lot of this with The, Niners like even
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: though they're missing, guys there is still An and you've
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Done indiana, games you, Know big ten, network no big
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: deal With. Signetty there's. Something there's something about like people
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: really and this probably works in any line of, work
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: like when you really like the people you work, with
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: and in a business that is like physically texting and
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: you're you have to like lay it on the line
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: with fatigue and mental toughness and all these things come into.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Play LIKE i think of how he had to do
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: over he would have TRADED Aj, brown like keeping that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Around it's hard to do because it's like he made
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: plays early in the. Game you're, like how are they
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: gonna cover? Him it's Like, leonora are you talking to
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the game like this is a this is a this
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: is an elite. Player but then like you have a
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: drop and then it just you, KNOW dk is kind
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: of like that. Too NOW i Think AJ's better THAN,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: dk but they're just you, know like McCaffrey's really really.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Dependable it's like the coach k thing on that doc
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: when late and you're. Missed he's like he might make or,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: miss but he ain't gonna be. Afraid and it's like
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: used check and The, eagle like the. Talent their defense
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: to me was it wasn't their issue, right but, offensively
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: it's like they're all looking in the. Huddle do they
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: really like each? Other Brandon graham last, year remember when
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: he was like doing the chicken and pizza. Thing he's, like,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: yeah The jalen and Uh aj just can't stand each.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Other and then they like immediately like an hour, later he's,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: LIKE i take that. BACK i didn't mean it like.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: That it's like he you know what's cool about brandonck
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: you get old, enough you like not even thinking you're
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: like your corporate coach player speaks is. Off he's, like,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: yeah they just hate each other, now AND i don't
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: think You and in fairness Of, jalen you're, like you
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: hate on. Me you've made a pretty public you did
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: a commercial that feels like it's just directly at, me
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and then you're dropping balls like it's. HILARIOUS i, MEAN
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: i can't Sometimes i'm LIKE i can't believe he did.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: THIS i, know but you, Know, aj and LISTEN i
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: don't blame, him but it also you get in that
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: moment like that it really, matters and you can see
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: like this team doesn't really like each. Other and the thing,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: is what was anywhere? Thirteenth is there a bigger lock
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: than aj being traded to like The patriots on the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: first day of free agency or maybe even. Before it's,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: broken like he's not even gonna be on the. Team
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: so you go down swinging with this guy's not gonna
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: be on a team and not not gonna be on
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: the team because, like, yeah we just needed to save
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: some cap. Space like a lot of, teams it's, like
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: we gotta get this guy out of. Here we gotta
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: we gotta try to save this operation right and The
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: niners don't have any of that right.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Now well BECAUSE I uke's not.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Around, true but he just drove off and he's going
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: so fast no one ever seen him.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: AGAIN i, really it's not like they've been without drama
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the last several. Years in, debo it's BUT i think
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: the REASON i.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Always but the debo for his limitations was a guy
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: that you go to war with and get his best.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Effort now it might, not you, know as he got,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: older he wasn't as, good but you felt going to
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: war With Deebo, samuel like he was gonna go down
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: with the ship with.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: YOU i, think go back to Your signetti, point LIKE
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: i love Watching signetti talk And i'd be, interested like
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: would he take The steelers? Job, Uh he's about to
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: get his like third extension in six, months probably In.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Indiana but when you watch him, talk like if you
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: go watch his introductory press conference or any interview he,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: does he rattles off every core value like it is
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: imprinted on his.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Brain.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Right every plays a has a mind Of every play
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: is a story of its own nine seconds to. Greatness
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: you just like The and even when The niners are
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: like a six win team or, whatever Or kyle doesn't
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: end the half with the, ball OR i should have
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: used the time out, THERE i wish he were more.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: AGGRESSIVE i think the most powerful thing is players think
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that he can make them reach their full. Potential like
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: they all believe in. Him players believe in the head coach.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Period AND i think that is the fundamental reason WHY
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: i had somebody tell me once like you, know it'll
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: never come to, this but if anybody could call offense and,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: defense it would Be Kyle. SHANAHAN i, think, Well Ryan,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: walters you remember. Him he Was washington's defensive coordinator this,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: year he was produced head. Coach. Member he was a
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: defensive Coordinator illinois For. Beelma then he Becomes reduce head
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: coach and he took over offensive play calling like two years.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Ago but he'd been LIKE i remember that, story, yeah In,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Colorado but, LIKE i just think that IS i think
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: it has to start there with. That and so you, Know,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: siriani they've taken play.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Calling not That i'm.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: The sirianni, expert but he was THE oc and then
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: he's not THE, oc and then it's the play. Caller,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: again he's not the play.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: CALLER i DON'T i don't think he's called places a
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: yanked away the. SITE i don't think he's touched a play.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: CALL i just think there's a fundamental. Thing AND i
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: think this Is signetti is Like signetti is not gonna
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: pop into every room and like put his arm around
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: every guy and like check on. You AND i don't
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: know if you saw one of his players said, LIKE
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: i don't think he's ever been, happy and he's, like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah i've been. HAPPY i just don't show them That i'm, happy, Right,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: YEAH i just think he. Is so he just makes
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: everybody so much. BETTER i think it's the fundamental. Reason to,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: me that's the number one thing you need to find
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: the head. Coach it's like you. Do the players believe
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: he can make them. Better AND i think it's why
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers play with a, purpose they play
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: with an intensity because they believe what they're told is gonna.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Work doesn't always, work back to your laterer, point but
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: they believe it's gonna work if they do it the right.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Way is it fair to say the Guy Tim ryan
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: who back in WHEN i WAS i remember WHEN i
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: got SERIOUS xm in The Honda cord AND i was
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: driving around the country to. Scout he had a radio
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: show With Pat, Herwin moving The moving The, chains which was.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Elite tim is an Underrated when he was doing national,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: stuff how good and entertaining was he was an excellent
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: like it was just it was an awesome. Show you.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: KNOW i think he does it now With Bruce. Miller
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: it ain't the. Same, nothing no shot At. BRUCE i
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: just think that highly A tim as an. Entertainer but
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: he's he's really tight With Bob sola right like, There,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: yeah if you spent a lot of time Around, robert.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: A little time in the meal room when when you
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Know tim's, like, hey come sit down and.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Talk To Bob carbs. Proteins what's His oh.
• 49:02
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• 49:05
  Speaker 1: like oh you can't drink that because of, this this and.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: That Uh so he's, dialed very, disciplined very, friendly extremely friendly.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Guy like see him in the, hallway seem at the,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: elevator you know WHAT i, Mean, like have you you've
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: talked to him right briefly?
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: ONCE i, Mean i've never heard a bad word about.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: HIM i show like the heat to me is clearly
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: AN nfl head. Coach there's just a challenge of you,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: know there's some good defensive coaches right, now AND i
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: do think it's challenging to higher a defensive. Guy But Tim,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: ryan did you happen to? CATCH i sent you the
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: clip for people you can go On INSTAGRAM knbr That
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: john mentioned. Earlier there's a clip self. Promotion it's not
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: about me going around of one of my calls because
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: they put like a GoPro in the, booth WHICH i don't,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: like but people like.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: It what's the double?
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Pass right before the, Play tim breaks a what you call,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: it like a smell like here's the smelling salt like like,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: that and then the play. Happens so he's like an
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: og football and you're right like he's. Been he was
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: On fox for many. Years d line at SC's, huge long.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Hair he's a big as, dude great hair. ELITE i
• 50:08
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• 50:17
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• 50:19
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• 50:21
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• 50:23
  Speaker 1: go play The bears for THE Nfc championship. Game that to,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: me there is no you were there when they had
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: this In. Philly we were around it with The San
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Francisco giants here especially LIKE i guess you were here
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: in twenty. TWELVE i. WASN'T i wasn't living here in twenty.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Ten but from afar like when you The phillies had,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: it when you win for the first, time or like
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: when you're really in it for the first, time they're
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: just it's not the same the next like three. Times
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and that's what it feels Like chicago. Has right.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Now guy AND i were at a A giants playoff,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: game it probably would have been. Fourteen my guess would.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Be so this is Like Cluster Posey Hunter pence and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: they're playing The nationals And Bryce, HARPER i think in
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: this game hit one of the longest home runs Like
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Barry Bond Beside Barry bond's ever. Hit the ball still,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: flying it's like out in the middle of the. Ocean
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: but we didn't like there was no place to sit
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: the press, box would you, say with The, giants isn't that,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Big like we'll have to do a football press cof.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: And we're not press box.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah, no we're out there rubbing the elbows with the.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: People so we're just like standing room only kind of
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: behind some. Seats all of a, sudden it's like the
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: six or seventh, inning might have been the seventh inning
• 51:28
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• 51:31
  Speaker 2: lead singer Of, Journey Steve. Perry Steve perry's right in
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: front of, us and they just start Playing Don't Stop,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: believing and he has a microphone and we are. STAYING i,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: mean it's it's one of those like pre again the,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Phone why is there a camera right?
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Here like who is it?
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Shooting? YEAH i think it was. Right over the next
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: couple of, years as phones and videos were really taking,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: off it was pretty when you just lived and you just.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Experienced you just got to tell people's, story and you
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: can even fake the story because other bandmates were there
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: and they busted out, guitars so you can say whatever
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: you want because no one has a video of. It
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: and he just started Singing Don't Stop, believing and all
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: sixty or fifty thousand. People it's it's one of those
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: things you Just i'll never forget that moment till the
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: DAY i. Die and they came back and. Won i'm
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: pretty sure they did.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: That that game they were, down, LIKE i don't, know
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: eleven to, four so you know they were down in that.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Game you remember who else we saw that? Day you
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: tried to, say you, said what's up to? Him and
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: he just was up and kept. Going do you Remember
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: jack Del?
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Rio? Oh, yeah but he wasn't coaching The raiders, yet,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: right or was?
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: HE i think he. HAD i think he was about
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: to because we were like, well that's.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Weird was he doing?
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Here it was like out on the McCovey coat the
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: landing is where we saw.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Him upbout right. Field maybe he had just been. HIRED
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: i don't, know it would have been the. Winter maybe
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: he was kind of sniffing.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: AROUND i don't think he'd been hired. Yet, yeah, no he.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Hadn't maybe he was out of football and he just
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: he Knew. Mark he Knew mark was gonna be looking
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: for a. Coach, yeah THEY i mean they didn't have
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: a coach right because they had fired what's his name
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: And Rip Tony soprano was the interim coach that that
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: year because he took Del rio takes over the next,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: year probably in Like, january so he's he's probably working
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: the phone to Get. Mark is this, Yes jack del
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: real story one person that was on the staff for a,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: while so like a legendary story that he like told
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: his agent right before he was about to go into
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: the in person interview With mark and whoever, else was,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Like i'm gonna crush this interview and this is gonna
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: be my job by the end of the. Day AND
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: i think it was you, know at the, time they
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Had Slim pickens, Right raiders were down and, out but
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: then a. DRAFT i think They mac And Derek carr
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: were drafted like a couple months later and it changed. Forever,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: actually they would have been already on the.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Team he coached The Paris musketeers of The my our,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Guy Yogi roth is like a minority owner in the.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Team this last year is that.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: One of THE ufl OR afl.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Team now it's like it's A European Football. League Quick
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: raider middlecough, Story. Uh Dennis allen as the coach of
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: The raiders and we're working at The raiders flagship one
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: of the great honors of our, lives The raiders flagship
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: radio station Where john Hosted raider postgame for no extra
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: money and love the, game, bro love the, game and we.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Go Dennis allen is giving. Us we're in The raider
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: meeting room and there's all what do the signs? Say
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: like just win?
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Baby there was like a.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Anyway we're sitting, there everyone's. Quiet Dennis allen's taking ten
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: minutes out of his day the head coach of The,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: raiders and he's up there on the stage and there's
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: a phone starts, ringing like what is gon coughs like
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: scrambling and, like oh It's. John doesn't silence. It phone rings,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Again Dennis allen. Stops it's like looking Mid coff pulls
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: the phone. Out of course it's your mom, Calling, like, oh,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: sorry it's my. Mom turn it off, again and h.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Not as embarrassing as his. Tenure it. Was it was
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: a low level look for. Me. Yeah, also there is
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: A raider story that for many people don't know. This
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: WHEN i Did raider, postgame they weren't any. Good so
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: you're reacting to these games and they are just getting.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Salacked so's it's hard to be, like you know the,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Right zach's really got some uh positive improvement you're. Seeing
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: it's just it's very. Negative And raider fans they're leaving
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: the coliseum peppering you with calls also not. Happy and
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: so The, raiders you, know they weren't. Happy AND i
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: got a phone call one time after they they were
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: own thirteen or, no they were oh and ten and
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: their last three game or the last what it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Was right before they won That thursday night.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Game, yeah so they're oh and ten AND i think
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: they just played The rams and it's Like Steve spagnola
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: might have been THE i don't even know who the coach,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: was and and The rams beat them like sixteen or.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Nothing it's, like is this the worst team we've ever?
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Seen SO i tweeted, OUT i Think ohn sixteen is.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Possible their next opponents were Like, Chiefs Horbon, Niners, uh
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: just good teams Like. PATRIOTS i don't even know it
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: was good. Teams AND i got a call on The
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: tormac from their team president like you need to take that.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Down that is not, True like you just lost sixty to.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Nothing you're oh in. TEN i just, Tweeted ohen sixteen
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: is on the. TABLE i don't work for you. Guys
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: that was kind of the beginning of the. End they
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: weren't you know he. Did Mark davis wasn't happy with.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Me and then your boy got escorted out of the,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: building AND i think they gave you the option to.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Stay But abraman drew a line in the sand and, said, No,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Moss i'm out as, well so he came down with. Me.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Crazy as bad as The raiders have been that they,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: have this is the first time they had the number
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: one picks in two thousand and, SEVEN.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I would imagine they haven't had the number one. Pick,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: like they haven't been good for a long long, time
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: even over the course like post. EIGHTIES i think they
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: were down Until gruden got, there the SECOND i ever
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: had it in the history of the. Franchise, YEAH i
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: feel like they've had a lot.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Of batund sixty TWO afl. Draft, yeah they've had a.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Lot of god awful teams and they just pick, fourth
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: fifth or.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Six would you here's a question for that happened this.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: YEAR i, mean look at like a team drafting fifth
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: or sixth or. Seventh there were some for a while
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: they were like we're In, december there's like five to
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: two three win. Teams it's like they're all. Battling there's
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: a big difference to Getting Fernando mendez if you need
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: a quarterback and just no one. ELSE i guess what's his?
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Name could Say.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Dante AND i Like Dante. More if he comes, Out
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Dylan roola is banking on, It uh see?
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: That so he's he's cool with. Him stand there's paying
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: him so much it doesn't. Matter or is that he
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: knows he's.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Leaving maybe he knows he's. LEAVING i Mean Dante more
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: did the same thing At oregon the year before With Dylan.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Gabriel he came and sat for a, year paid a
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: lot of. Money But i'd be surprised if.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: They win a national championship With Dylan. Royola have you
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Done nebraska? Games?
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: IS i, mean Maybe i'm too hard on. HIM i
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: feel like he's not that. Good but THEN i get
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: people in MY dms or die hard Of nebraska fans that,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: are obviously we're, disappointed BUT i think you undersell. Him
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: he's probably better than you think he. Is did he
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: improve a off this? Year you do games this year At? Nebraska?
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: YEAH i Did Nebraska. Maryland maryland's quarterback actually is a
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: like if as a. Scout he was a, freshman so
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Have scouted him this fight star like elite.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Recruiter, Yeah Malik, Washington like that guy's. INTERESTING i don't
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: know That dylan got better this. Year LIKE i think
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: that was probably the frustration esecial because then they had
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: they Had Dana holgersimon as THE oc this, year and
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: you thought like they were going to take a. Step
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: BUT i also, think Like i'm not saying He's. Caleb
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: he's Not, caleb but he did some things where it's
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: like they're not playing, well not playing, well and then
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: he just makes a couple of. Throws you're, like oh my,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: god who else makes that? Throw but he didn't do
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: it as consistently As, caleb and he did, it you,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: know he's kind of similar to being like An eagles
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: quarter like he. Did nebraska is a tough. Play it's
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: just it's a Very it's of all the fish, bowls
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: like it's a major fish, bowl you, Know Ohio. State
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: nebraska is not even sneaky like major fish.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Bull so, yeah back To maria showed me this. Clip
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: it made me laugh Because, BELICHICK i mean would have
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: fired everyone on the. Spot but The patriots social media
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: is actually pretty good, now and they had this girl
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: that basically gave like a three minute reel On instagram
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: of the meal that They she just showed. Him they
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: had a night game what from morning till they? Leave
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: actually it Started saturday night into the all Day, Sunday
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: so a team employ you, know like the teams, yeah
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: team reporter or, whatever team social media girl chicks showing
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: them with the mura was. Fascinating she's, like how can
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: they eat this? Much, well you've, LISTEN i remember At,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: fresno stay thinking you got to be very careful to not.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: GO i can't eat like these guys when you go
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: with The. Niners what's the go? To, like how do
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: you approach?
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: That first of, all you land at eleven pm and
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: you get to the hotel and there is a full.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Spread they had you a.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Snack when you get on the plane, too.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Well you can you can grab Your chick Fil a
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: on the. Tarmac then you get on the plane and
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: you have a choice Of Red robin, burgers fried, chicken, salads.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: RAPS i try to go grilled chicken. Rap then there's
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: also full airplane. Fare you like five different. Things do
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: you want the you, know the shrimp pasta or. Whatever
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: then you can just walk back and there's just all
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: these Trade it's like full sized TwixT bar, kitkats seventeen
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: different types of. CHIPS i discovered finally this last week
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: there is ice cream on the, Plane magnum. Bar you,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: know it's just it doesn't.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Stop you, know you serve. Yourself you just walk back and.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Ass they'll Serve they'll happily serve. You but you can
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: go back and just like start grabbing stuff out of the.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Bins sour patch kids. Dangerous you get to the place
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: line of food like it's a wedding and it's again
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of really good hot, food they're really.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Dangerous part AND i know you would is the cookie
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: ice cream Bar friday night before the. GAME i always
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: make sure to come back for, That Like haberman is in,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: here a lot used at the meals at three, thirty
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: another meal at, five a snack at eight. Sneaky these
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: guys eat every two hours, Too so it's just way
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: too much free accessible.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: FOOD i get it from the players. Standpoint they're burning
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of. Calories some of those guys metabolism when
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: they're twenty, five they could. EAT i remember seeing Like
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Deshaun jackson who eat burgers and fries woulden phase Like
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: leonore like tip for him to gain, weight it's probably
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: gonna be. Hard and then you get the bigger guys
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: that have to maintain. It but the coaching, staff it's
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: WHY i have so much respect even LIKE i saw
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: this clip Of John harbaugh his, workout like he's pretty
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: dialed to have. That you talk about the ultimate discipline
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: is who doesn't like? Food one and no one in
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: the football world doesn't like. Food so Like Robert, sala
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: who's clearly bigger now from a, muscle lower body fast
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: standpoint than he, was his discipline has to BE i,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: mean what's Does kyle just eat air LIKE i can?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Pick i've seen him, once you, KNOW i, KNOW i
• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:35
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  Speaker 1: whatever year Old kyle in the background Behind Michael holton's.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: CORDS i don't know if his waist was thirty, then
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: it's probably thirty four, now maybe thirty a little.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Bigger he's a little bigger, now.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: But, yeah it's it's. Uh and then you, know half
• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: you may not even eat the.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Food is That?
• 1:01:59
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Get you, know your boy here in the peak of
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: The Golden State, war Was Kevin durant on the. Team then,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: yeah then you do a couple of road trips.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: With, that or did team meal At No Boo?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Manhattan, yeah so's it's a little different animal with basketball
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: because they eat super, late, right they did that after the.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Games now that was a night before because they got
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: so many off. Days In, bia you get so many off.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: DAYS i have a question for, you, unrelated if you
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: were if you were A phenamends or any other, quarterback
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: would you look at The raiders differently Because Tom brady's?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: There you, know like If brady's not, there you might,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: LIKE i don't know IF i want to play for The.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: RAIDERS i don't, know if the coach is, unstable blah blah.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Blah but then you get free access to the one
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: of the you, know arguably the greatest quarterback of all the.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Time BUT i think it's gonna be VERY i think
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be very. TELLING i don't know what he
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: did last year and want to SEE i, mean they
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: don't even have a, coach, right so who they? Hire
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: who's the if that guy's offensive play? Color you know
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: With Matt, Ryan Like Matt ryan's gonna be at the?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: COMBINE i would, guess, like Is tom at the combine
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: for this? One because to, me he has to be
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna, play you. Can't it's a one THING
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: i respect About elway is When elway became THE, gm
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: LIKE i would quit everything else and just became THE.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Gm now was he working as hard as Like John
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: snyder or? WHATEVER i don't know what a daily.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Baby he had to sell his car dealerships, too, Right.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Like it was he went all in right And Matt,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: ryan at first it was reported as, like, hey Now
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: ma's gonna still DO cbs like you. Can't that's not gonna.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Work Matt. RYAN i was watching ON. Cbs you're probably
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: on the bust of the. Game he actually gave a
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: pretty good like they talked about it and it was just,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Important Like Matt ryan's an impressive, guy and he's, Like
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: i'm all in, Right i'm gonna because that's What how
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: are you gonna? Beat Like, Lesnie John, Schneider John, Lynch
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: kyle like this. Guy these are these guys' lives twenty
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: four to seven threes sixty. Five so to, Me, tom
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: WHICH i don't blame. Him he's playing at these sweet
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: country clubs In. Florida he's living. Life he takes THE
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: pja the night before the. Game but if you gonna
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: if you're going to impact, this like you need to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: be a little bit more involved if you're gonna come
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: in with, opinions like you gotta Hire Chip. Kelly why
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Because bill told you their, Buddies like from WHAT i told,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: His chip was on the phone with his coaching, buddies
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: like sixty percent of the. Day it's, like but you
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: would never have allowed that to, Happen, tom if you
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: were in the it wouldn't have been. Tolerate you would
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: have snapped as a, player let, alone like what your
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: role is. Now but when you're out of, side out of,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: mind LIKE i just think it's gonna be. Interesting does
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: he get more? Involved because the one thing That i've
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: always Defended mark Is mark really wants this to, work
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: and he's just trying to get some. Help he Begged
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: John gruden to do, it Gave hi a hundred million.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Dollars he Begged Tom brady like he was the guy
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: that went To. Tom you, know he's trying to do
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Like mark is act like people Crush Mike. Brown somebody's
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: LIKE i do they? Care? Not like you, Know mark
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: tries and he goes LIKE i don't really know What
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: i'm DOING i don't even want to try, This LIKE
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: i he's gone After John gruden And Tom brady and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: it so far it's all blown up in his. Face
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: but it's not from lack of. EFFORT i do think
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: That Fernando, mendoza If tom goes to the combine and
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: surely he's going to be, INVOLVED i would imagine he
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: would fly out for a workout or something to meet, him,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: like how do You it'd be pretty exciting if you
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: were him to do. IT i Think, tom especially LIKE
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: i like to me IF i was a betting man right,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: NOW i could See Robert sola being the coach. There,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: well so he's the type guy they. Need YESTERDAY.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I saw somebody say, like Did Tom brady just see
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: What Robert sala just? Did not that The eagles offense
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: is some, Juggernaut but Like Robert salas performance with a
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: bunch of deal like it was kind Of belichick esque in,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: that you, Know belichick obviously had good. Players you can't
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: not have good, players but maximize this.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Talent and he those two, TALKING i uh.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: NO i didn't doesn't mean they. Didn't but wasn't it
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: after a play was it after a playoff? Game That
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: John lynch Called Kyle, shannon was, like, HEY i could
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: come be YOUR. Gm, LIKE i do think there is
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: there is a pretty significant. Value you meet with these,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: people you study, them you watch them up. CLOSE i
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: do think the television, thing you get such access to,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Coaches LIKE i bet people would be surprised how much you,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: know you saw The akoman, News like some of this
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: stuff has become a little more.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Public how Many packer games do you Think troy's done
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: the last twenty?
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Years, YEAH i think people would be surprised to find.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: OUT i don't want to say the influence that some
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: of these big time analysts, have but they they. Are
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: they can be kind of unofficial search. Firm help you
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: know when you call a, guy because who meets with
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: this many coaches other than big TIME tv? Analysts college, too,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Right like let's just say you're hiring a college football
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: coach and you're hiring At, texas so like you have
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: the pick of the. Litter, well WHO i want to? Call, like,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: well who meets with the most offensive coordinators and defensive?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: COORDINATORS i want to? Call let me Call Joel, Klatt
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: let me.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Call you, Know like we'll explain that if you're if
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: you're Doing Indiana nebraska and you're meeting With, indiana how
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: does it? Work who do you talk with and how
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: does it.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Go, so if we're doing a football, game we On,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: wednesday we'll do a zoom with the visiting team with
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: the head coach for thirty minutes or an. Hour you
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: have thirty minutes to an hour with the head, coach
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes with each the offensive, coordinator the defensive. Coordinator
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: you probably talk to the quarterback for fifteen, minutes that
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: sort of. Thing and then On, friday we'll fly in
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: and Then friday morning we'll go to the team facility
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: and you'll sit down in a meeting room one on,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: one so you'll get the, coordinator the, coordinator the head,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: coach and then some. Players and we'll also go to
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: practice On. Friday nine point nine times out of ten
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: you'll go to walk through On, friday so you'll watch.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: That you'll actually watch them practice like you'll watch a,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: coach you, know like do.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Stuff would you say THE nfl is the, Same.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: SO i think there's a little more Like. SATURDAY i
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: think there's a little more zoom in the. End i'm not.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: POSITIVE i don't know their schedule as. WELL i do
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: think some guys will go to you, know. PRACTICE i
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: guess you'd go through like a what A friday walk
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: through or you go to A saturday walk.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: THROUGH i remember seeing guys at the facility if we
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: had A sunday Afternoon Big fox game or The sunday night,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: game like The Big boys would be in in the.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: CAFETERIA i felt like On.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Friday, Afternoon, yeah, okay so you will get some of,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: that probably not both teams.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Because saturdays a lot of places is a quick walk.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Through guys are at, home right or you, know they
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: kind of get it's kind of a day, off and
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: it's just.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Anything it's just a weird deal to be there two extra, days,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: right to come In, friday and then what do you Do?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Saturday if you're you know? Whoever SO i would imagine
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: you get quite a, bit especially a little more people
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: are making fifteen. Million now you got A pj, like
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: you're probably not coming in On friday as.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Much, well how many of these guys are flying commercial airlines?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Anymore like all The Big boys calling these? Games, Yeah,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: haman but so LIKE i Think Tom brady.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Matters, YEAH i also think at first the.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Broadcast thing, too keeps them elevated at a high. Level
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: and that's A i don't know he obviously they paid
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: him three hundred seventy million. Dollars BUT i do, think
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: especially NOW i was a hater last, year he's kind
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: of hitting his stride as he's Passed. ROMO i, Mean
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: rome's going the other. Way Because tom's a football. Guy
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: likes how Easy Tom brady. Calls do you know? What
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: he's dropping a? LOT i thought he got. Banned he's, like,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: yeah talking To kyle or he's dropping a lot of,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: that you, know because those guys call, him they want to.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Talk to, answer you. Know but it's one THING i
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: wonder if it would be different if The raiders are
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: THE Afc west, champs like right, now, like, Yeah, Tom
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: i'll tell you.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Whatever right, well specifically to, me where it get weird
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: would be like The Andy Sean Payton harbaugh crew have
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: to be a little. Uncovered they're they're not talking To
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: tom a, LOT i, think very specific to that, division
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: those three, Guys but Like kyle Or sean, McVay what
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: do they give a? Shit?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Right kyle's happy or mad to pick Up Tom brady's,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: call like he's got questions For. Tom BUT i, YEAH
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: i JUST i think IT'S i think people would be
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: surprised the level Of and again like think about who
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: would you. Ask but the guys that gets to talk
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: to all these cause they they'll have a list for,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: you like you know who's impressive This because here's the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: other thing that. Happens you go to. Practice you're out
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: there fifteen minutes before practice, starts like you just here
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: comes with the running back, coach the quarterback COACH i
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: love talking, To like you go on the field before
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: the game and you just talking to like the ASSISTANT
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: qb Coach and guess what that guy's in oc in five? Years,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Right so like that's HOW i. GET i mean you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: you're great at. It LIKE i talked to scouts on
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: the field before the game And i'll say to, like,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: hey what do you think of what do you think
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: of this? GUY i run into all your buddies And i'm,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: like hey middle cough like oh. Yeah so there's just
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: so much there's so much information that is there is
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: no replacement for human to human contact when it comes
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: to information. Gathering and that's what you. Did that's why
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: you were driving Your Hondack court throughout the country because
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: it's better to meet with somebody face to. Face you're
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: going to get so much good.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: INTEL i don't know if HE'S i, mean you see
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: him at these. GAMES i think he still goes forty nine.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Games but one of the greatest sideline bullshitters and Networkers
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: i've ever seen Is Mike. SILVER i, mean his talent he.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Is he will know everyone on the sideline Getting he's
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: getting my number WHEN i was a. NOBODY i, mean
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: he's got the head. Coach this guy can JUST i,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: mean he's it's a, talent and the better you are
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: at it in those, jobs it gives you much more.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: ACCESS i mean WHEN i worked for WHEN i first
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: got hired for The. Eagles you, know this is twenty,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: ten so it's not like they're warn't cell. Phones but
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: how he used to call the office. Line you know
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: that ain't happen anymore or, now excuse. Me Adam scheffer
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: used to call How he's office, line And katie would be,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Like adam's on the, Phone like that's you. Know but back,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: then you, know you're just working the. Phone you, know
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: you don't know people as. Well maybe and at this
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: point in. Time the. NETWORK i feel like in football
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: probably like in all, sports but specifically THE nfl is like.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: SHRUNK i feel it's really closed down right. Now it's
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: like the same crew of like three or four guys
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: getting all the jobs and now maybe. Change like The
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: ravens used to be a right a springboard for a
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: lot of the. League that's so that that might. Change Same,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: steelers probably not as, much BUT i mean The ravens
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: aren't you, Know mike McDonald mint is probably gonna be
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: a head. Coach all their personnel, guys you, know does
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: that get blown? Up but Obviously kyle and McVeagh have
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: been going pretty.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Strong yeah they were getting jobs and didn't really work
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: out for any of. Them but IF i give one
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: piece of advice to like a twenty two year old doing,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: anything it would be like ask for the, phone ask
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: for a phone. Number people will nine times out of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: ten give you their phone. Number you, KNOW i think
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: at to figure, out like just ask that coach for
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: his and then like start texting.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Them you, know like you grew, up you wanted to
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: like call games right and that it felt like an
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: unattainable be ON tv or call AN Nfl Major League baseball.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: Game do you think there are a lot of kids
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: now did want to do that or they're more likely,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: to LIKE i want to make content for TikTok and.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: REELS i mean for, sure BUT i just think like
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: there's first of, all.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: My point is there less less depth of talent coming
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: up that actually makes it. Easy it was one of
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: my brother's best. Friends, NO i think as a general,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Contractor he's, like no one wants to do these. Jobs
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: i'm getting double the amount of work because my competition is.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Diminishing, INTERESTING i think there's more because LIKE i think
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: there's more to. Do you can do more like you
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: can you, know WHEN i, STARTED i was willing to
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: do whatever for free or next to. Nothing SO i,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: did but it had to be on a radio station
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: or a LOCAL tv station or. Whatever you can go
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: do your own thing right now wherever you want to do.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: It AND i think more people have kind of seen,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: that and THERE'S i get a lot of like IF
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: i go to a college game without, fail at least
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: one or two students comes up to me and ask some,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: advice which is. GREAT i did the same thing WHEN
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: i was at a, Game but, yeah it feels like
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: IF i if you look out right, now there's just
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: like a bunch of guys in, there mid to late
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: twenties out Of, syracuse just like time, Stuff Noah eagles.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Killing it's actually uh and that's an, exception but there's
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: still there's a lot OF.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: I do think there's a power because it's never been
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: easier IF i was like twenty years old to, say,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: OH i send a bunch of emails AND i send
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: a bunch of LinkedIn messages like the phone call and
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: obviously getting in person is way. Harder it's easier to
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: justify LIKE i didn't have to do it BECAUSE i
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: already contacted, them LIKE i sent them FOUR dms OR
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: i sent them five, emails, Right and that that's WHERE
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: i wonder the people that are going to, separate BECAUSE
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: i see it With maria's in real, estate like younger
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: people that are, hustling that that they're they're physical showing
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: up really stepparate because a lot of people are gonna
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: say WHY i, called you, KNOW i sent five text
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: messages or. Whatever it's, like, yeah people just delete.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: THAT i, mean you know you're about to have a.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: BABY i just had a.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: BAND i was GONNA i was gonna end with some
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: some parenting.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Advice he's he's two months, old and so you, Know
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: i'm watching a lot of parenting. Videos and they also
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: any parent watching this or listening to, THIS i, mean you,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: know there's a million of, you more than a million
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: of you out, there so Like i'm not breaking any ground,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: here but they all just say. Grit Like i've watched
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of, Videos they're, like don't tell your kids he's.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Smart don't be, like, oh you're so, smart compliment them.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: On they did this study where they took two groups
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: of kids and they had them take a, test and
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: then after the, test they told one half of the
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  Speaker 1: kids a good job working through all the, problems and
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  Speaker 1: they told the other half of the, Kids, wow you're so.
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  Speaker 1: Smart and then they retested and the test was a little,
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  Speaker 1: harder and the kids that they just said you're so
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  Speaker 1: smart to tested worse than the kids that they, complimented
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  Speaker 1: like how hard they worked on? It? Right and that
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  Speaker 1: was really. Interesting that was really.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting you already use that to your young.
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  Speaker 1: Son oh, Yeah i'm not telling me. Smart, Ever and
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  Speaker 1: based on the, genetics.
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  Speaker 2: What would you? Say early was in on this parenting advice.
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  Speaker 2: Slash you, know the experience for the two months has been,
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  Speaker 2: like oh.
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  Speaker 1: God that's a great. QUESTION i would say it is
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  Speaker 1: it is like you you hear people say all the
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: time and it's, true like, oh mom's a. Superhero it
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  Speaker 1: is so, true and like your only, job not your only,
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  Speaker 1: job but the main job is just be, like, hey whatever you're,
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  Speaker 1: feeling it is impossible for me to understand what you're.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling it is impossible when your body is about to
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  Speaker 1: physically go through especially you know if it's like a
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  Speaker 1: planned at. Surgery SO i would say that'sk you just
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  Speaker 1: like you wake up every day and you tell us of,
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  Speaker 1: Today i'm going to be the most patient PERSON i
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  Speaker 1: can possibly, be and that's the number one THING i
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  Speaker 1: need to do. Today SO i mean that's up. There
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  Speaker 1: and then, yeah it's LIKE i don't even the lack
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  Speaker 1: of sleep IS i think if you're working a nine to,
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  Speaker 1: five the lack of sleep is probably a. Factor if
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  Speaker 1: you're a, podcaster.
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  Speaker 2: Like you'll be called just call a playoff.
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  Speaker 1: Game, No you'll you'll be, fine you.
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  Speaker 2: Know WHAT i?
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  Speaker 1: Mean LIKE i get, like that's WHERE i REALLY i
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  Speaker 1: think it's probably when people, like OH i slept four
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  Speaker 1: hours last, Night like you, know you can get up
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  Speaker 1: at four. Thirty i've enjoyed. That get up at four,
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  Speaker 1: thirty put the baby, down get for like three. HOURS
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  Speaker 1: i remember seeing a meme one, time LIKE i became
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  Speaker 1: a dad AND i finally understand while my dad used
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  Speaker 1: to sit alone at the breakfast nook at four thirty
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  Speaker 1: A i'm with this. Coffee it's like you do you
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  Speaker 1: get it, Immediately.
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  Speaker 2: So just your your piece and. Quiet, yeah, yeah it's, incredible,
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  Speaker 2: man congratulations and just buckle. UP i don't you know
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: you just you start he starts getting, close and you start,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: thinking these things are really about to be. Here you,
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  Speaker 2: know my life is never going to be the same
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: in a great. Way but it's, like, whoa this IS i.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Better you feel a lot of. Pressure you, Know i'm
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: just doing it, right being the right type person because
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: you're your, actions like you, said not only your words
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: as they get, older but like the way you conduct
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: yourself the way it's gonna be a huge role model the,
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  Speaker 2: kid especially early on in their life before they're out
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: and about with friends from junior high and high, school
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: but like that stretch of in their single digits as
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: they become a human being and walking and. Talking they're
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: just looking at you and, Her so you better be
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: a freaking good role. Model you can't just emotionally snap
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: when the internet's slow or get pissed. Off you, know
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: just stuff that just doesn't really. Matter that's what you
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: kind of think, about you, like how much stuff in
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: life is kind of trivial and doesn't really matter that.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Much it's like when you hear older, people you, go you,
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  Speaker 2: KNOW i stop giving a shit WHEN i realized none
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: of that actually. MATTERED i THINK i read something or
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: heard someone say that on, average this person that worked
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: at like a funeral home that, said by far less
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: than ten ten people cry at a funeral or. Something it's,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: like so just you just start, realizing like in your,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: life it's such a small amount of people that truly,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: care like, you like your immediate the point was usually immediate,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: family like people have been in business, with and you,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: know random neighbors and. Stuff it's like not saying they don't,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: care but like emotionally or just a wreck at a,
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  Speaker 2: funeral it's a very small, percentage even big. Funerals so
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: it's like you, realize like how many people truely and
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: no one's going to be more dependent on you than.
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  Speaker 2: That little individuals and as they get, bigger the hell
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: ideally you, know grow up in healthy and happiness and
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: know just kind of can live a successful life and
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: whatever they want to. Do but you are a big
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: conduit of leading them somewhat in the direction right. Now
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: that's what's.
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  Speaker 1: CRAZY i think there's a lot of things you worry
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: about right away that like are not like CAN i change?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: It The Dad. DIARIES i added something to the podcast
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Every TUESDAY i did The Dad, diaries and last week
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: it was like all the scams of different things you
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: buy and you're looking back like you AND i have
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: talked about, it LIKE i feel LIKE i just had
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: a crib and like a blanket as a, kid AND
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: i get it times have, changed but you, know and
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: that stuff you look back and kind of laugh at
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  Speaker 2: the best thing we got the.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Pacifier someone's, like what's the best thing you? Got i'm
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: like the, Pacifier like that's the only THING i need
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  Speaker 1: is the best.
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  Speaker 2: Past fire, bottles right even the bottle. Cleaner this thing
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: we got is. Insane it's it was super. Hot you're
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: doing all these different contraction like this is. Creaty my,
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  Speaker 2: mom no way she had. This we did not want
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: it didn't. Exist but AGAIN i look back and there's
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with. It it was LIKE i feel LIKE
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  Speaker 2: i just had a crib in my. Room and then
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: even WHEN i became like an like, TEN i feel
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: LIKE i just had a bed and a couple of
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: pieces of. CLOTHES i don't.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Know the craziest thing we got this kid is a cell,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: Phone like you, know when we got on a cell
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: phone all the. TIME i think you guys got us
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  Speaker 1: the little mat with like the little things hanging like he.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Likes that's that's a good. One but it's just stuff
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: that like you, think CAN i change a? Diaper and
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: then it's JUST i was terrified of. IT i was, like,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: GOD i don't, know this is kind of. Smelly and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: then it's. Fine But i'm also aware it's been eight,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: weeks like right, now it's just manual. LABOR i haven't
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: had to make any hard decisions about how DO i
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: lead this child, yet you know WHAT i? Mean like
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: that to me seems to be.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: The part the emotions lesson is he goes off to junior.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: High, yeah like that's the part that right Now i'm
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: just like it's just. Willpower CAN i get?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: Up?
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  Speaker 1: WELL i have. TO i got shoved in bed the
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: other night for snoring and it wasn't, me it was a,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: baby AND i GOT i got punched in the. Arm good,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: snore like good loud. Snore it's gonna freak you. Out
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: these babies, sleeping the noise.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: That you're, like is he?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Okay LIKE i think he's choking right, Now like, no
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: that's just that's how BABY'S.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: I do think it's. CRAZY i mean she's she's literally
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: about to. Pop how they can just live in that
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: thing for that? Long how they? Survive That's i'll.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: Finish with, This, John and this is something hopefully people
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: watching this will have SOME i keep asking people who
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: are been parents for a long, time like does this
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: feeling when you look at them of total? Disbelief does
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: that go? Away or are you just always because right
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: NOW i am every just in total, Disbelief like where
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: did you come? From where did you come?
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: From my dad would say, like, well, yeah when he
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: rear ends a car and drives home and, says, dad
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: we got a problem that you're, like that starts. Happening,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: yes the disbelief turns in to swear, words screams and
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: things being thrown at. You but right now and there YOU.
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  Speaker 1: I think you were like a block from.
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  Speaker 2: Home, yeah, crazy you know it's, like, uh you get
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: caught with you, know your buddy's bag of weed under your.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Bed you're like. That there is no disbelief, there it's
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: just eyes of like are they gonna kill me right?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Now so, yeah i'd say, YEAH i THINK i think
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: it definitely. Fades. Uh if there's a, bromo.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: Least lights out the. Window It's.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: John what time does the the bird take off From
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  Speaker 1: Uh Santa, Sfo San francisco back one, o'clock one o'clock
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  Speaker 1: bus On? Friday SO i get first, bus SO i
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  Speaker 2: Control what we do you do Anything friday? Night are
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  Speaker 2: just gonna lock in.
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  Speaker 1: Walk?
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  Speaker 2: In, yeah it's a big. One you can just GET
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  Speaker 2: i don't know another Legendary carl call in the history
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  Speaker 1: Franchise we don't think they're gonna, win do?
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  Speaker 2: YOU i MEAN i didn't think they were gonna win last.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: Week it's. Weird LIKE i say the same thing about The,
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  Speaker 2: bears Like i'm the against. HIM i THINK i saw
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  Speaker 2: seven and a half points feels a little. Strong but
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: The George kittle, thing it's one thing in the moment
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  Speaker 2: that's pretty, devastating you. Know just it's kind of important
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  Speaker 2: to just makes some PLAYS i don't want. TO i,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Mean Trent williams walk, today that's.
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  Speaker 1: It they played six games with that joy they beat
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  Speaker 1: him with. THAT i Mean george got hurt in the first. Game,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: yeah who are the Super?
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  Speaker 2: BOWL i think that The bills win this. Week watch
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  Speaker 2: out like it might just be he he was a
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: man amongst boys in that. Game now their team's not as,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: Good But i'm not betting on Bow. Knicks The rams
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  Speaker 2: look way. Off who, knows Maybe, seattle If Sam darnold's,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: on they're gonna be really. Good The, PATRIOTS I i don't.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: KNOW i think it's wide. Open if The niners had
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: a couple more, bodies like they could win it just.
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  Speaker 2: Hard can they win four games with the crew they
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  Speaker 2: were rolling? Out it'd be the greatest accomplishment that anyone
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  Speaker 2: has ever. Seen, Okay Audio, saberman the volume