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Authentically Living the Olympic Dream with Mariah Kelly · Authentic Living

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  Welcome to authentic living with Roxanne, a place where we conscious conversations about
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  things that really matter in our lives.
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  And now here's your host, Roxanne Derhodge.
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  Hi, everyone.
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  It's, Roxanne Sander Derhodge of the authentic connection movements.
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  Thanks for tuning in again.
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  This week, I have, one of my I would say your mom is one of my dear friends, Angela Kelly's,
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  daughter, Mariah Kelly, And Mariah has done some phenomenal things, with her life.
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  I think it with, the limited amount of years that she's been on this earth.
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  Mariah is, you know, has been a runner, quite young into her life, and she's at the point
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  where she's, training for the Olympics.
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  So, Mariah, thanks so much for joining us today.
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  Thanks for having me.
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  So, Mariah, you know, tell you a little bit about her background.
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  She's originally from, Niagara Falls, and now she's in you're in Victoria, BC.
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  Correct?
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  Mariah?
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  Yep.
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  Mhmm.
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  So Mariah started off, running.
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  I I remember your mom and I would talk and and your mom would go running and you'd be your
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  roller blades.
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  And you your mom would say, oh, she didn't wanna go for much of a run today.
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  And then there was a point where you you started just into it, and there was a spot that
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  you just really kind of started to focus really, really young on running.
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  Yeah.
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  Do you remember that point?
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  Because I I interviewed your mom last week, and she talked a little bit about that.
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  But you know what?
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  Maybe I'll have you tell everyone how you kind of started in on this path and where you've
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  gotten to so far.
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  Yeah.
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  I I did listen to my mom's interview.
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  It was great.
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  I don't really remember, being sort of young and doing the rollerblading stuff and not
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  really being into it.
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  But I do remember, having a a natural ability with running and discovering that at a pretty
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  young age, but not really taking it seriously or being that into it.
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  And then when I was fifteen years old in high school, I had, the opportunity to run-in my
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  first awesome and ship.
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  And that sort of sparked the fire of wanting to be better at it and see how good I could be.
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  And that's when I just really started committing myself and dedicating myself to
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  doing the work, and it no longer was someone had to push me.
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  It was more someone had to hold me back.
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  So your mom said that, from such a young age, once she kinda she said, you were trying to
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  find her passion and that, you know, I know Joe had found Hawk he prior to that, and he was
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  kind of doing that.
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  And she said, she remember you kind of trying to say, what what what am I into?
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  What am I into?
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  And then you found running and then you just pivoted from that point on.
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  And then she said, yes, there was a point where your your dad and her had to kinda move your
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  long, but then not too long after that, that you just completely focused on on goals.
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  Yeah.
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  My, my mom and dad were never super pushy in in anything with my brother and I.
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  Like, they just wanted us to sort of explore all the sports we could.
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  And if we found some some passion or joy in what we were doing, then they were totally
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  supportive of where we wanted to take that.
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  But they were never, you know, you have to do it this way or you have to do this.
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  You have to do that.
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  They sort of just let us find our own way.
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  And for me, like, honestly, it it felt like it happened overnight.
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  Like, one day, it just clicked, and I decided that I wanted to be good this, and I wanted to
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  know what it took to be good at it.
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  And I was dedicated to doing whatever it took, if that makes sense.
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  So your mom talked a lot about the use.
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  You had a lot of structure.
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  Right?
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  So how did you kinda you're young and, you know, She said that you were methodical, you
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  know, and you just had, a structured way that you did things So, Tal, how did how did you
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  kinda learn about that?
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  Yeah.
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  I think I I'm a little bit of a a cycle path when it comes to that kind of stuff.
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  I feel like I was always, watching the best in the sport and trying to figure out how they
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  were doing, what they were doing.
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  And if I thought that something they were doing could help me, then I stuck onto it like glue
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  and and just did it.
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  And I think that was a disadvantage to me at times because I would push myself too hard, but
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  in a lot of ways, it was great because it got me to where I am today.
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  But, yeah, if I felt like something was gonna lead me to success, then I was gonna do it no
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  matter how hard it was.
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  So sometimes, you said you would you'd look at the best, which I what a better kind of
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  template to find out what what you needed to do.
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  And but sometimes you'd push yourself a little bit too hard.
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  So how did you kind of reconcile between I know I have to work really, really hard.
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  To get better, but I gotta watch burnout.
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  How did you kinda learn the kind of the the tricks in between to find that that spot, that
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  sweet spot?
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  Yeah.
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  I think, honestly, I am super lucky that I was born with a robust body because I was a
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  psychopath for the majority of my career and just sort of running through brick walls and
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  didn't really care who told me to slow down.
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  Like I was just gonna run through that brick wall because I thought that was the way to go
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  and it was until I joined the Olympic Development group here in Victoria that I met a
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  coach who finally put an end to that and was you know, would say to me, like, I'm not gonna
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  coach you if you train this way.
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  And so, you know, it it became a situation where I had no choice but to change.
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  And actually become a student of the sport and start to not only recognize what was going to
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  be something I needed to do in order to get to the next level, but respect my own boundaries
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  and and give my body a break when it needed it.
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  And not just go to the well every day which was what I did my entire career up until 2016.
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  Well, that's amazing.
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  So here you are.
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  It was just, full of tenaciousness.
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  You're gonna do it regardless of what's happening.
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  And then you start to get the right guidance along the way.
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  So for, you know, I think of you and for so many young people, they have goals, Mariah.
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  And, you know, I know in today's today's world, a lot of young people have so many pressures
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  about achieving and and, you know, I often say that in my time, there was less pressure by
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  social media.
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  There was less comparison.
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  I would say that a lot more connection at home, a lot more grounding potentially comparatively
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  speaking of today So for young people that are maybe listening and have a goal and they're
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  wanting to get better at it, what kind of tips would you give them about, you know, following
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  that passion or achieving a goal?
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  I think the biggest tip I could give from my own experience is that it is wonderful to look
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  at those who have accomplished the goal you're trying to achieve and wanna be like them, but
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  it is one thing to take inspiration from them and to measure yourself against them.
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  And I think to find inspiration in what they're doing is a great thing to do, but to measure
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  yourself against them is not because everyone has their own path to success and the way
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  someone gets there is gonna be totally different from the way you get there.
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  And for me, the best motivation I've ever had in my career was being able to measure my
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  success against myself and whether or not I was able to bring my best on that day, even if it
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  wasn't my best overall or my best that I'd ever done wasn't my best that day.
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  And if I can say that at the end of every training day, then I know I'm moving forward
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  and getting closer to my goals.
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  But if I try to compare it to my other training partners or my competitors, then I just always
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  feel like I'm never getting anywhere.
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  So being able to respect where you are, but also willing to take the challenge of taking
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  yourself where you wanna go.
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  So I would think that that would be kinda the defining factor.
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  Right?
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  Kind of think of the pressures that we all have today.
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  Right?
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  You, you know, something happens.
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  It's automatically on Twitter, and it's live.
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  And and and, you know, you the races that happened and you find out, you know, so and so
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  just did it in this amount of time or did it better or, you know, were flooded with all that
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  information.
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  And and what you're saying is you're actually seeing the opposite.
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  You're saying, don't compare.
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  Well, that's that's easier said and done, right, because out there, we're consistently
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  comparing over and over and over, even though we're trying to tell people not to compare.
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  So how did you kind of make that switch?
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  Like, what kind of was it coaching?
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  Was it something internally that you did to to make sure that you weren't comparing?
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  But we're just kinda competing within yourself.
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  I don't think I've made the switch.
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  I think that it's very difficult to just one day say, oh, I'm no longer gonna compare.
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  I think that it's something I have to remind myself every day and more so be take the
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  responsibility of being aware of when I am making that comparison and remind myself that
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  that's not the way to go and that I need to look within and see if I am making the
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  improvements within myself that I need to make and just sort of readjust my my thinking, but
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  it is still something I do on a regular basis.
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  It's impossible not to compare yourself.
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  But I think as long as you're able to recognize when you're doing it and make that shift, then
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  it just becomes a thought instead of a a mindset.
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  So you're you're constantly having to monitor that, and I would think that probably you do a
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  lot of cognitive things to be able to do that.
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  Is there are there some things that you've learned with?
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  I'm I'm sure you have a sports psychologist that you work with or a mindset coach, what
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  kind of things have they taught you that you actually apply on an ongoing basis just to make
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  sure?
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  Cause, like, you're right.
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  So have a mind means that we compare.
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  You're right.
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  We can't get away from those 60,000 thoughts in a day, and a lot of them are negative thoughts,
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  unfortunately.
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  But there's a way that you could kind of divert them.
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  So can you share some of the ways that you do that?
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  Yes.
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  I am working with a sports psych.
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  His name's John Coleman, and he's been truly such a game changer for me.
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  I think the great tool he's taught me is an ability to have a heightened awareness.
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  And so instead of being judgmental, with all the mind chatter, which, like you said, is
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  impossible not to have.
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  I've learned to be aware of it and to more so see it as as background noise and not see it as
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  if I think negatively, not to judge myself on that thought, but just to see it as a thought
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  and be able to take that thought and just accept it for what it is and move forward in
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  the moment knowing that I'm bigger than the thought I'm having at that moment.
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  And I always say to my clients, it's like it's like, I'm not gonna invest in that thought.
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  So every time I take in that negative thought, I give it power, But if I kinda look at it and
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  and I the analogy that I use is it's like a I'm in a train carriage and it's like a cloud
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  floating by.
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  Acknowledge it.
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  I know it's happened, but I just kinda look at going past versus every every time you attach
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  to it, to your point, you make it bigger and bigger, and then that becomes where you focus.
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  Yes.
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  Exactly.
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  And I find too, like, a lot of people say, you know, when you're being negative, you just need
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  to tell yourself not to be that way.
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  Well, I don't really agree with that.
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  I think that sometimes when you're negative, you just you're negative.
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  And if you try to tell yourself not to be, it just makes it worse.
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  So I've found that in my experience.
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  If I'm feeling negative one day or I'm just down, I just accept that I'm down.
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  Mhmm.
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  And and I give myself permission to be down and I just let it pass, like you said, like a cloud
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  in the sky.
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  And so it doesn't become such a big deal.
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  So tell us about this training camp because I'm, you know, I'm fat.
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  I mean, of course, your mom keeps me updated.
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  I'm a I see you on Instagram, and I I see all this, like, these wicked pictures and the, the
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  the apparatus and all that stuff that you guys tell, you know, for anybody listening, first of
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  all, I'm proud to say I know you and I know your mom and from Chippewa, which is where I
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  live.
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  So just tell him about that path.
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  Like, you you went from Niagara, And then you went off, obviously, to Baylor on a fully, paid
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  scholarship and tell them the the steps that you took after and kind of you now being at
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  the, Olympic training camp because I I that I would love to hear more about.
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  I'm sure people listening would love to hear about it too.
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  Yeah.
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  So my life has sort of been a pattern that's just grown in the same way.
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  When I was in high school, I was a good track athlete, but I wasn't a standout track athlete.
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  So in order to get to Baylor, I had to sell myself.
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  And so the first thing I did in high school was I made a little athlete resume and I sent it to
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  the top 50 academic and athletic schools in the US.
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  And I just would not take no for an answer and wanted to be at one of those schools.
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  And I I happened to land that and To be totally fair, I received a full scholarship when really
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  I didn't deserve it on paper, but I made I made sure that by the end of my 5 years at Baylor, I
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  was more than deserving of the scholarship.
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  And it was the same way after university.
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  Like, I was nowhere near world class, I was the top oh, near the top of the NCAA.
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  I had placed 10th which was my highest finish, but I wasn't people weren't looking at me and
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  saying, oh, she's gonna be a world class competitor.
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  So, of course, in that moment, it would have been easier for me to bow out and say, you know
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  what?
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  I'm gonna go to medical school and continue my studies and let running go, but I still had the
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  passion and I still had the desire.
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  So I went on the selling streak again and sought out different professional groups and I
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  just came across the west hub and honestly had never considered coming back to Canada because
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  I didn't think there were resources that were gonna help me reach the world class level.
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  But when I'd met Heather and I'd seen what the west hub was about, I just had this gut feeling
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  that it was the place for me and I I committed to it.
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  It's sort of blindly like there was no support being offered and it was a total jump into,
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  like, a dark hole hoping that there was some light at the end of the tunnel, but it happened
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  to work out.
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  And the only thing I knew I was gonna do when I had committed to moving out here was give it
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  absolutely everything I had.
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  And I just knew that if I did that, I would be happy with the outcome.
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  And so far, you know, it's been great.
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  And I'm now on the cusp of being world class, and so I have made huge job.
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  So when you kind of think of that, right, that that term, I'm on the cusp of world being world
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  class.
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  I'm thinking, wow.
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  Like, that's gotta be overwhelming at times, like, when you sit with that thought, because
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  it's huge.
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  It's you're you're there's so much still in tow, but look at how you like you've said, you
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  didn't take no for an answer.
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  Like, you regardless, right, No.
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  I can do this.
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  No.
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  No.
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  I'm gonna find where I need to go.
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  And you kinda I'm gonna say blankly at times what where you wanted to go regardless of the
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  barriers that were in your way.
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  Yeah.
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  Absolutely.
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  And to be honest, like, I I've had to take the same kind of leap each each, different
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  transition, like from high school to college, it was a huge leap from college to this level
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  has been a huge leap.
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  And now I'm trying to take the biggest leap of my career, which is going from the cusp of
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  world class to being world class.
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  And every lead by attempt is is harder, and it requires more discipline, more hard work,
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  tougher mindset, more resilience And so honestly, like, I I think that this career is a
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  lot like any career you could go after in life.
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  Like, it just it's about how much you're willing to take without bowing out.
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  Mhmm.
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  Mhmm.
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  So let's talk about resilience and getting ready for the Olympics because I I wanna hear
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  about that.
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  And I could just imagine and just envision every leap you had to take, how much it must
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  have taken out of you.
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  And now between now and it's it went the training goes all the way up till next how far
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  it into just before the Olympics?
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  So the Olympic team will be decided about 2 weeks before the opening ceremony.
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  So basically I'll have to be in my best fitness by Canadian nationals, which will be the end of
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  June of next year.
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  Okay.
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  And then my peak fitness by the Olympics
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  Wow.
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  So tell me what that involves.
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  Like, can you give me, like, a snapshot of a day or a week?
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  So just because I'm I'm curious that I'm sure people listening and thinking, Wow.
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  What what does that involve?
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  Yeah.
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  So, well, first of all, it it's not just this year.
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  I've been building and preparing for this final year throughout this entire quadrennial.
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  So each year has sort of built upon itself and we've always done like, more volume, more
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  intensity.
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  Everything's gotten harder every year.
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  It's not been like, oh, things are getting easier now.
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  No.
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  Things are at the hardest they've ever been.
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  But to give people an idea of what my training looks like, I train 7 days a week I mostly
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  train.
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  I definitely train every day, but there are times when I train up to three times in a day.
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  It involves typically on Mondays is our easier day.
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  So we'll do either a cross training session or a stability rehab session and maybe just an
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  easy run.
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  Tuesdays are are workout days.
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  So we'll have a big session in the morning and then an easier shakeout in the afternoon.
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  Wednesdays are our weight room days.
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  We will be lifting super heavy in the weight room, and then we'll have 2 runs and a cross
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  training session on those days.
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  Thursdays are our medium days.
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  So we'll either have a longer run with a little bit of a workout and then cross training in the
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  afternoon and some just rehab after that.
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  Fridays are typically another workout day where we'll hit it really hard in the morning,
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  another run-in the afternoon, Saturdays, we go into the weight room again.
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  We do 2 runs and a cross training session.
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  Sundays are our long run days.
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  So we'll run anywhere from 70 to a 100 minutes and there'll be some sort of pickup in that
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  run.
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  And then typically after that, the rest of the day is about recovering from the week and
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  getting ready for that next cycle.
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  And typically we work in 4 to 6 week cycles where either 3 of the 4 weeks are extremely
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  difficult and the 4th week is a bit easier.
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  And, respectfully, if it's 6 weeks, then it would be 5 of the 6 weeks is extremely
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  difficult, and then that 6th week is in a recovery week.
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  Wow.
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  I'm dizzy just listening to it.
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  Yeah.
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  It's a lot of work.
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  I'll usually cover from 90 to a 130 k throughout those weeks.
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  Amazing.
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  So typically, like, it wouldn't be abnormal for me to hit 400 k or more in a month.
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  Wow.
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  And and in and in there, I'm I'm gonna assume, you're you're working with the mental the
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  mental part of things too, along with the physical rating?
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  Yeah.
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  So that doesn't include, the treatment.
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  I'll be getting treatment, at least twice a week which would be massage and physio and then
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  I'll do mental performance every day on my own and see a mental performance specialist at
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  least twice a month.
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  Wow.
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  Wow.
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  So let's talk.
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  I want your perspective and resilience, right, based on what you where you've come and where
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  you're going and, you know, if you were to kind of say to someone that's your your definition
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  of resilience because you're living it, how would you describe resilience?
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  That's a great question.
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  I feel like resilience isn't necessarily you know, never giving up because there have been
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  moments in my career or even in in a workout or a race where I have briefly or entirely given
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  up.
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  It's about being able to look at those moments and be brutally honest with yourself and be
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  able to say, you know what?
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  That day, I gave up and why'd I give up and how can I make it so that next time I don't give
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  up?
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  It's wanting to improve on those moments when you're at your weakest.
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  And the only way you can do that is by recognizing that you were at your weakest in
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  that moment.
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  And I think for a lot of people, it's difficult to own that.
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  And so for me, resilience has been about looking at the weakest parts of myself and
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  accepting them for what they are and seeing them as being a strength if I'm able to accept
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  them as a weakness.
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  So not to ignore them because a lot of times when we talk about resilience, we talk about
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  dusting off, getting up, and keeping going.
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  But what you're suggesting is you're almost talking about, I we all have weaknesses.
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  Yep.
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  So no gloss over them.
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  Look at them for what they are.
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  If you need to sit in it for
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  a bit, do that.
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  Yep.
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  And then learn from it and then go again.
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  Yeah.
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  Exactly.
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  Like, I I was actually, interviewed not too long ago and we were talking about some of my
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  training partners, and and I have training partners that are way stronger than me in
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  certain aspects of our training program.
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  And it would be so easy for me to just beat myself up whenever they they drop me or they do
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  something better.
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  But instead, I get sight.
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  Like, I get so excited because I just know that they're motivating me and pushing me to a level
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  that I wouldn't be able to go if I didn't have them there.
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  And so just because you're not as good at as at something as someone else, doesn't mean it's a
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  weakness.
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  It's an opportunity to be better.
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  And so I just sort of see resilience as seen those as opportunities to close a gap.
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  I like that.
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  Opportunities to close.
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  Like, that's a really nice way to put it.
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  Now let's talk about support.
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  Because I'm gonna say to have gotten where you've gotten with your natural skill and
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  ability, you had to have had a lot of support along the way and continuing support.
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  So talk a little bit about support and how that has helped you along the way.
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  And maybe at times not helped you.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  Like, I from the very beginning, you know, I've had super supportive family members.
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  My mom and dad have always been on board to help me get to where I wanna go from high
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  school.
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  You know, they put me into Nagar regional athletics and all of my coaches there were on
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  board to help me get to the the highest level.
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  And then when I got to university, my coach there took a chance on me and gave me a
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  scholarship, which allowed me the opportunity to go where I wanted to go there.
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  And and then coming here, you know, my my coach here gave me an opportunity to show her that I
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  was worthy of what she gave me.
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  And beyond that, the community in Niagara Falls supported me in 2016 to to start this
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  quadrennial and now they're supporting me again to finish it So there is absolutely no way I
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  could do this alone.
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  I I'm not an island.
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  I'm a person with a ginormous team behind me.
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  And so, you know, although I am alone on the track and I am alone when it comes up on the
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  result page, but it doesn't feel that way to me.
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  I I feel like I'm a part of a huge community and it makes it so special to feel like I have
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  a big team.
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  Now I know that, this Sunday, which, the podcast will probably air after that, but I'm I
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  and, some of my my families, they're going we're going in a a golf tournament to support
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  Mariah Mariah, but I know you also have a GoFundMe page that I'm sure people listening
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  would love to probably help you out.
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  So I would like you to, share that GoFundMe page, and I we will also put a link in so that
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  anybody that's wanting to support you as a Canadian athlete, somebody here for local from
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  Niagara or just from Ontario, or across Canada or anywhere because this will probably go
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  across Internationally that they could, go online and help you out.
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  Yep.
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  There is a GoFundMe page.
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  I have the link live on my Facebook, and I think I have provided it on my other social
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  media accounts as well.
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  But, yeah, it's pretty accessible and simple to offer donations.
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  And, of course, anything that is being offered is extremely special to me, and I'm super
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  grateful for any support anyone wants to give.
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  So in in closing, any last words that you had for kids out there because I know, like, we
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  talked a little bit about the pressures, or for other athletes or people in business that are
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  out there kinda slept, you know, slept in day in, day out to get to a goal?
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  What what last words do you have before I kinda let you go about, resilience and achievement?
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  I guess my my best advice and, I mean, I haven't reached my destination yet, but my best
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  advice from my experience is remember that you are your your greatest supporter and you're
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  also your worst enemy.
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  So if you can choose between the 2, choose to be your number one fan because at the end of
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  the day, you're the only one that can take you to where you wanna go.
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  And so if you're gonna be anything, be a number one fan.
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  I like that.
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  Number 1 fan.
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  So everyone, when you're struggling and you fall down and you will, because we all do, and
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  we had tried to achieve goals, recognize, sit with it.
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  Sometimes like Mariah said, cry about it.
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  Have a day off.
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  And and unplug and then sit and understand what is that part of you telling you in your
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  weakness to gain strength from it?
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  Don't look at it as a I'm gonna give up now because each time you do that and you sit and
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  reflect, you can grow.
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  Resilience is something that does not come overnight.
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  And every time you take a learn, a teachable moments from the setbacks, that's where you you
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  get the pebble and the rough.
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  So thanks again, Mariah, for being with us.
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  And, for everyone listening, if you're needing more information on me, I'm Roxanne Durgesh.
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  I'm a mental health and wellness specialist, a keynote, and a coach.
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  So take care, and we'll talk to you soon.
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