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College Basketball's Legendary Coaches · Sports Exchange

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Speaker 1: Shuting everybody. This is the third end of our triple header.
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Speaker 1: Guy to Older City math most showing the first two hours,
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Speaker 1: and now we're back to those sports of James. Please
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Speaker 1: be welcome. Glad to have Marky Belson back. Welcome back, Marky.
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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here with you.
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Speaker 1: And we got Cliff Neil on as well, and Tommy
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Speaker 1: and then we have Candy and we have topics. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's geta let's get going here, because I'll tell you
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Speaker 1: this is one of the most interesting things I've ever seen,
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Speaker 1: but I ended up researching it. We're gonna start off
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Speaker 1: with you Freeze, because his passion for golf help him
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Speaker 1: get fired at Auburn. He was given a fifteen point
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Speaker 1: eight million buyout to leave after the team started four
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Speaker 1: and five and one and five and sec play. What
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Speaker 1: are your thoughts about Hugh Freeze getting freezed out of
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Speaker 1: Auburn with a little bit of money though, Marky.
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Speaker 3: Oh, forgive me here for not realizing it was my turn.
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Speaker 3: I think he's Steve Spurrier if he's being fired for golf.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 3: Actually, Steve Spurrier did have something to say about it,
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Speaker 3: and he said, look, the reason why he got canned
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Speaker 3: was because he lost ballgames, you know, and that's that
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Speaker 3: I you you get with this somewhat. I think it's
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Speaker 3: an extension of the great Auburn Alabama rivalry because everyone
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Speaker 3: here at whatever Alabama does, Auburn asked Alabama gets a jet,
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Speaker 3: Auburn asked to have a jet. I mean, they're constantly
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Speaker 3: keeping up with the Joneses, and it's a pretty tough
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Speaker 3: Joneses to keep up with. Uh, and so a losing
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Speaker 3: coach isn't going to make it. But then the fans
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Speaker 3: start asking, well, why did he look Wait a minute,
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Speaker 3: he's got more golf scores online than I would like.
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Speaker 3: And this goes back to last week's topic when we
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Speaker 3: were discussing or a week or two ago. You know,
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Speaker 3: coaches do they have to sleep in their offices and
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Speaker 3: all this, and yeah, you know, I don't know that
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Speaker 3: he should be uh, you know, they're playing so much
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Speaker 3: golf when you know, Sean Salisbury did pretty much make
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Speaker 3: an accurate statement.
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Speaker 2: You know, the alternative probably was going to.
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Speaker 3: Be him eating donuts and reading the paper if he wasn't. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, it comes down to your losing ballgames and
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Speaker 3: the fans who desperately want to keep up with Alabama.
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Speaker 3: Start looking and scrutinizing any reason whatsoever that Trees might
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Speaker 3: not have had the success at Auburn that he did
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Speaker 3: at Ole Miss.
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Speaker 1: Number one of the state of Liberty, and that would
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Speaker 1: have been the end of that. Anytime you're walking to
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Speaker 1: a pressure cooker like Aubury, you short your job. To
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Speaker 1: me's going to shorten a lot.
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Speaker 3: I think Liberty has a chance to be the Baptist
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Speaker 3: Order Dame if they ever get into the right conference.
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Speaker 3: Excuse me, They're not going to do it in a
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Speaker 3: group of four conference, a group of six conference, whatever
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Speaker 3: it is right now. But Liberty, it used to be
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Speaker 3: said in the days of yore with Notre Dame that
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Speaker 3: all the Catholic Church and half the mafia recruiting for him. Well,
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Speaker 3: I don't think half the mafia is going to recruit
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Speaker 3: for Liberty. But I do think that already a sizable
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Speaker 3: part of the Baptist Church is and that's a formidable alliance.
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Speaker 3: If Liberty can ever get into the right conference, and
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Speaker 3: I think they could be a big time player.
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Speaker 2: Look how they've grown over the years already.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 3: The problem is college presidents generally don't like U to
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Speaker 3: put in their conference uh at school with the curriculum
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Speaker 3: of liberty.
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Speaker 4: Let's face it.
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Speaker 1: I agree, all right, Cliff.
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Speaker 5: Well, when he comes down to wins and losses, I mean,
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Speaker 5: it's it's what always comes down to. If if they
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Speaker 5: were winning uh SEC championships, they were always contending, they
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Speaker 5: wouldn't give a hollering hooton nanny about his golf.
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Speaker 6: You know, it's what it really comes down to. Like
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Speaker 6: like Marky said, he's like, it's it's yeah, it's it's
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Speaker 6: just a lot of the fans it's.
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Speaker 5: Like, oh, this is what we're losing, and it's got
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Speaker 5: to be expected, you know. It's he he had to
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Speaker 5: know was it was, it was gonna be. It was
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Speaker 5: gonna happen. Very mediocre and losing record. That's never good
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Speaker 5: for a college coach. So about how many I'm not
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Speaker 5: really crying for him. He has a fifteen point eight
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Speaker 5: million dollars buy up. That would be nice, Okay, I
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Speaker 5: don't have to work great, all right, I'm still getting
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Speaker 5: his money.
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Speaker 6: Awesome, you know. So Yeah, that's how I feel about that.
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Speaker 1: No, No, it's pretty good talk, all right, Tommy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, his golf scores going down and down was
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Speaker 4: a red flag. He's obviously getting comfortable with all the
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Speaker 4: money he was making and finding ways to play. Uh,
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Speaker 4: I'm sure fancy golf course, it uh.
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Speaker 1: Keep going.
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Speaker 7: You know, it could be worse.
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Speaker 4: It could be he could be playing golf in mar
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Speaker 4: A Lago while American soldiers are dying. No, I'm the
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Speaker 4: American public would fire a guy for him playing golf.
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Speaker 1: Two stop. He comes up with the exact gated thing.
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Speaker 1: I know we're telling him. I only worked was Shandy
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Speaker 1: for a while, all right, can you like loose thoughts
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Speaker 1: on this one?
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Speaker 5: So he was.
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Speaker 8: He's the pretty first head coach for the Auburn Tigers.
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Speaker 8: He signed a six year contract, paying him an average
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Speaker 8: is six point five annually. He went fifteen and nineteen
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Speaker 8: and in the SEC he only went six and sixteen.
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Speaker 8: No way you're going to stay a coach with that
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Speaker 8: kind of a record in your conference. Play, Yeah, to
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Speaker 8: stay home or to stay on the golf course. Fifteen
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Speaker 8: point four to three seven, five hundred determining his contract.
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Speaker 8: I'm sure he's hitting up plenty of golf balls off.
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Speaker 1: Some tees now, no question about it. All right, the
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Speaker 1: only NBA top we're going to talk about and what
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Speaker 1: Russell Brooks westbrookat fans Oscar Robertson for fifteen on the
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Speaker 1: all time scoring list, and therefore he became the highest
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Speaker 1: point highest became the highest scoring point guard in NBA history.
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Speaker 1: Let's face it, Russell Westbrook to me, passing Oscar robert
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Speaker 1: it says a lot in terms of his status of marquee.
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Speaker 3: Well, one question I ask is just what the role
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Speaker 3: of a point guard is in today's game. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I always thought it was the guy that racked up
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Speaker 3: assists and you know, had five points while his teammates
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Speaker 3: got better and such. I've always felt that the point
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Speaker 3: guard that leads the team in scoring is sort of
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Speaker 3: like the quarterback that leads the team in rushing.
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Speaker 4: That's so, I mean, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, it's a sign of modern basketball, I kind of believe,
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Speaker 3: and sometimes a sign of selfish basketball. So you know, what,
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Speaker 3: can you say a point guard fifteenth all time scoring list,
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Speaker 3: you start wondering are you really doing your job right?
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Speaker 1: WHA wonder what.
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Speaker 5: I mean you've when you pass Oscar Robertson. That says
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Speaker 5: a lot.
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Speaker 6: He's gonna be in the Hall of Fame. We all
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Speaker 6: know it.
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Speaker 5: Chances this last year in his contract, he could go
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Speaker 5: off into the sunset. Maybe that's what he was waiting
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Speaker 5: to do. Pass Oscar Robertson. So he's playing for the
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Speaker 5: Sacramento Kings, Well, good for them. They still have a
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Speaker 5: team in the NBA. Sacramento, like NBA is weird like
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Speaker 5: that because they have those weird markets nobody else has.
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Speaker 5: They don't win really that much. I might win some
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Speaker 5: here and there, They've never I don't think they've ever
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Speaker 5: won a championship in Sacramento. If you can, I don't
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Speaker 5: think they have. But yeah, so hey, tip of the
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Speaker 5: hat to the guy. If he retires, then great. If
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Speaker 5: he doesn't wants to play another year, I'm sure he
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Speaker 5: will hook up someplace else.
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Speaker 1: I could see him thinking Sacramento is a thing in
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Speaker 1: the world. That's the only I don't mind him. And
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Speaker 1: he's got put something like that. What people stand Tommy.
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Speaker 4: I don't give it any credence at all. He's played
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Speaker 4: three more years in the NBA than Oscar Robertson. He
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Speaker 4: has no more. He has nowhere near Oscar Robinson's stature
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Speaker 4: in the history of the game. I would put it
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Speaker 4: on the same level as bam out of BAYU score
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Speaker 4: in eighty three points to pass Kobe Bryant and even
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Speaker 4: get mentioned, even mentioned in the same breath as Will Chamberlain.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I actually I'm going to bring the
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Speaker 1: Bam out of Bio thing on next week as there
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Speaker 1: one topic that I have a lot of thoughts on
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Speaker 1: that I didn't want to bring up today. All right,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Candy.
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Speaker 8: Well the other point, mark you what you were talking
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Speaker 8: about is like what do point guards do? He also
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Speaker 8: has climbed now to fifth on the assist leader board,
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Speaker 8: so the only the only the only people ahead of
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Speaker 8: them are Stockton Chris Paul, Jason Kidd, and Lebron James.
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Speaker 8: So not only did he pass a legend in Oscar
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Speaker 8: Robinson for points, he's up pretty high and the assists
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Speaker 8: as well. So as far as a really good basketball
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Speaker 8: player that passes the ball as well as has a
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Speaker 8: lot of shots, well.
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Speaker 1: Let's let's Keith rolling here. South Alabama has actually hired
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Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback receivers coach and Patrick Cane coordinator Tim Ritay.
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Speaker 1: He was an offensive analyst at LSU. Marky, give me
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Speaker 1: your thoughts about the how Artay is going to go
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Speaker 1: out there and obviously helped the cause.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he was a quarterbacks coachinger Mike Gundy at
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Speaker 3: Oklahoma State, I believe. With South Alabama, I did a
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Speaker 3: story on them about ten years ago at Saturday down
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Speaker 3: South about them starting up their football program, and actually
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Speaker 3: I thought it was a pretty good place to start
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Speaker 3: up a program. And there rise up to FBS has
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Speaker 3: not really surprised me because a mobile I mean, it's
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Speaker 3: not New York City, but it's a city of some
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Speaker 3: size and decent area and it needs.
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Speaker 2: Its own team to root for.
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Speaker 3: In this case, with Urtay, they're getting a coach who, yeah,
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Speaker 3: maybe isn't coming directly from being an offensive coordinator somewhere,
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Speaker 3: but does have an interesting pedigree as a former NFL
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Speaker 3: quarterback and also a you know, he went to Louisiana
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Speaker 3: Tech Terry Bradshaw U. He won a couple of titles
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Speaker 3: in the old UFL. So did Marty Schottenheimer. That's kind
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Speaker 3: of surprising to some people, but in the old UFL
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Speaker 3: and the United Football League of big days gone by,
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Speaker 3: and you know, as you mentioned now, the offensive assistant
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Speaker 3: to LSU maybe like a little stronger back a direct
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Speaker 3: coach coaching position and before he become a head coach.
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Speaker 3: But for the Jaguars, I mean, you could have hired
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Speaker 3: someone with who was hadn't paid his dues as well
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Speaker 3: as Retee had. I think that, you know, he has
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Speaker 3: definitely paid his dues to get a spot at a
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Speaker 3: place like South Alabama where I think you can do
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Speaker 3: well as a group of school.
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Candy and I were over at
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Speaker 1: the Theater Bowl and they played those games at the
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Speaker 1: Years in Southern Alabama. That's a nice campus in the stadium,
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Speaker 1: pretty decent. So I think that I hear they're going
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Speaker 1: to put a bat to lat Peoples in a few years.
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Speaker 1: A couple more years later and when they picked it up.
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Speaker 1: But that's a pretty good program out there with the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars at USA.
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Speaker 5: Cleff, I remember Tim Rite from uh it's a little
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Speaker 5: bit of time for San Francisco. I remember playing there.
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Speaker 5: It was you know, it's you know, his career is over.
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Speaker 5: He's got to find something to do with coaching.
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Speaker 4: He seems to do.
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Speaker 5: I've done a little bit there of a passing game.
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Speaker 5: It's like I'm trying to like wrap my head around
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Speaker 5: what exactly is that. Why isn't he just like or
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Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator, and then he's like receivers coach. So
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Speaker 5: it's kind of weird to me.
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Speaker 2: That he quarterbacks. He wants quarterbacks coach at Oklahoma Stake.
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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so I'm just kind of wrap my
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Speaker 5: head around of like what the job is that has
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Speaker 5: to do, How that's different than the other jobs. I'm
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Speaker 5: not exactly sure how they break that down. I mean
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Speaker 5: South Alabama sure, I mean yeah, he did coach a
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Speaker 5: little bit at LSU, which is high profile himself.
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Speaker 6: So we'll see, we'll see.
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Speaker 5: If he if he makes a difference, I'm not I'm
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Speaker 5: not sure. But they got to start playing the games.
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Speaker 5: It's the only we're gonna be able to get a result.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he seems you know, he played in the NFL
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Speaker 4: for a while, so it seems like he's still learning
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Speaker 4: that the coach's ropes climbing the ladder. I guess the
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Speaker 4: thing that strikes me is that Major apple White as
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Speaker 4: the head coach of South Alabama, and Major apple White
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Speaker 4: has been some big time places Texas and Alabama. He
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Speaker 4: was at Houston for a while, so if Major apple
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Speaker 4: White trusts him, that's quite an endorsement. Major apple it's
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Speaker 4: trying to build something to South Alabama's for me, Candy
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Speaker 4: so Cliff.
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Speaker 8: A passing game coordinator is an assistant coach responsible for designing, installing,
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Speaker 8: and calling the team's aerial attack, often focusing on situational
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Speaker 8: football like third downs, two minute drills, red zone efficiency.
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Speaker 8: They work closely with the offensive coordinator, but so they
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Speaker 8: research and implement new passing concepts, routes, pass protections, and
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Speaker 8: do that kind of thing.
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Speaker 5: So, okay, so do they have a running game coordinator?
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if you're gonna have the passing game.
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Speaker 2: I have heard of that position.
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Speaker 3: I can't speak for great knowledge of the USA staff,
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Speaker 3: but you know I have heard of that position.
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Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, So as far as Scott, yeah, we saw.
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Speaker 8: We were on the campus for South Alabama. Nice campus,
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Speaker 8: nice stadium. Uh, we really liked it. There is a
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Speaker 8: run game coordinator in some places. I don't know if
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Speaker 8: it's at South Alabama, though, I'd have to do one
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Speaker 8: more research before I could tell you on that.
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Speaker 5: I do have another question, is there a lot of
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Speaker 5: conflict between the if they have one of each, is
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Speaker 5: there a lot of conflict between the two To try
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Speaker 5: to get the attention of the offensive coordinator. That's sorry,
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Speaker 5: the question that just pops in my mind.
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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody focus on topic. Yes, okay, let's let's
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Speaker 1: move on. Last week we did talk about David Ortiz,
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Speaker 1: and I found a footnote down just wanted to mention,
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Speaker 1: and that is obviously the reason that Ortiz ended up
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Speaker 1: leaving is they obviously the twins. When they released them,
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Speaker 1: then he would his contract was going to go in
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Speaker 1: an arbitrator in arbitration, and he was going to have
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Speaker 1: a high number. So in retrospect, that's what ended up.
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Speaker 1: It was all about finances is really what it turned
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Speaker 1: out to be, as it usually is, is the twins.
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Speaker 1: Anybody else want to add to that real quick? Of
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Speaker 1: course they'll tell me they know they regret letting him go.
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Speaker 1: But money told olmod story. I know, we talked about
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Speaker 1: it last week and the other thing changes the almost shell. No, none,
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Speaker 1: sound like it, Okay, no big deal. All right, Well,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about the turnaround of the Detroit Mercy Titans.
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Speaker 1: They actually go They went one in thirty one in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and they nearly made the NCAA tournament,
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Speaker 1: but they fell a little bit short. Let me go
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Speaker 1: particular here with the Titans, because obviously they were one
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Speaker 1: and thirty one back in twenty four and they were
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Speaker 1: pretty close to winning the Horizon League. But when you
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Speaker 1: think about it back then when they finally won a game,
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Speaker 1: the Titans started the season on one, twenty sixth, but
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Speaker 1: ended up beting IUPI. According to Brad Gally, now Detroit
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Speaker 1: Mercy mean basketball is one of the laughing sacks in
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Speaker 1: recent years. But in just year two, Mark Montgomery as
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Speaker 1: the Titans, like I say, not on the doorstep again,
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Speaker 1: they felt a little bit short. Let's keep the thirty
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Speaker 1: will Detroit Mercy. They're talking about how close they were
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Speaker 1: and we'll continue on. But this program itself has made
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Speaker 1: the NCAA Division One Tournament sixty two, seventy seven, seventy nine,
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Speaker 1: ninety eight, ninety twelve and quite a season really, So, Marky,
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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about the turnerund for the Titans.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it goes to show you how things
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Speaker 3: can just change in a dime in modern college athletics.
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Speaker 3: But am Mike, and forgive me I'm blanking on the name,
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Speaker 3: but don't the Titans have an outstore an outstanding scorer
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Speaker 3: like a three thousand point scorer on this team.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, these names Antoine Davis, and he was trying to
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Speaker 4: break Pete Merrivis's record, and his dad sacrifice the team.
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Speaker 4: Mike Davis was the coach, sacrifice the team for his
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Speaker 4: kid chasing a record. That's why they were one thirty one.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I can recall I was going to
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Speaker 3: assume when you have an outstanding player like that, you know,
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Speaker 3: I mean the fact that somebody scores so much and
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Speaker 3: you start thinking, Okay, here's that single star player that
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Speaker 3: can elevate a mid major to good levels or something.
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Speaker 3: And I almost thought, you know that the other record
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Speaker 3: was somewhat modest when you had a player like that. Nevertheless,
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Speaker 3: my one Detroit University Detroit story, Detroit Mercy comes back
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Speaker 3: from being a sports talk show host a few years
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Speaker 3: ago in the Tri Cities, Tennessee area, and ETSU was
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Speaker 3: going to play Detroit Mercy, and I'm thinking, how do
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Speaker 3: we get a guess, how do we prepare for this? Said,
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Speaker 3: reach out to dick by Tale, Because dick by Tell
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Speaker 3: in the seventies you mentioned the NCAAP, he was their
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Speaker 3: head coach. That's how I got the Pistons job. And
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Speaker 3: eventually became famous basketball commentator. All right, so I don't
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Speaker 3: really expect to get some. But then also I get
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Speaker 3: a tweet. I said, look, I'm sorry, you know, I
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Speaker 3: can't do it, but you know, go Titans. And I'm
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Speaker 3: thinking at first, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, oh, go tight. Well he knows that I'm from Tennessee, right,
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Speaker 2: and I mean the Tennessee time. It took me the
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Speaker 2: longest time.
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Speaker 3: Wait, he's talking about his by Dallas, talking about his
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Speaker 3: old team and ending it with go Titans.
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Speaker 2: And we thought that was so cool. You know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I say, Mark Montgomery did a well a
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Speaker 1: job here too.
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Speaker 5: I mean, to totally turn a team around like that
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Speaker 5: is kind of amazing. But I know, especially with the
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Speaker 5: way athletes can go from one uh in this world now,
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Speaker 5: from one school to another to another, it's surprising. But
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Speaker 5: it isn't depending on I but I mean, it had
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Speaker 5: to be a little bit tougher for them because they're
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Speaker 5: not They're not that big name program. So they probably
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Speaker 5: deserve a little bit more, uh, a little bit more
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Speaker 5: credit for being able to do that and be able
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Speaker 5: to get enough talent to be able to do that.
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Speaker 5: I do have a question, did they get a birth
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Speaker 5: to the n I T if they didn't get into
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Speaker 5: the big tournament.
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Speaker 2: They weren't. They weren't in the NIT.
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Speaker 3: They last were in the I believe twenty thirteen, twenty twelve,
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Speaker 3: somewhere running there.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I never quite understood the selection process for that.
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Speaker 5: I always thought it was like a bunch of teams
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Speaker 5: that were like on the bubble that just basically missed
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Speaker 5: the big the big dance, and they just kind of
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Speaker 5: like they invited everybody else and whoever kind of came,
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Speaker 5: they'd be happy with that.
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Speaker 3: It's it's morphing now the NIT into a mid major tournament,
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Speaker 3: which I think is probably a good thing. The crown
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Speaker 3: is for the also rams that didn't make it, but
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Speaker 3: the niit and the thing about.
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Speaker 2: That is, you know, yeah, you're right.
21:37
Speaker 3: At one time it was like the guys didn't make
21:39
Speaker 3: it and you know, sort of weird number sixty nine,
21:43
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. But when you had Chattanoogle won
21:46
Speaker 3: the NIT last year out of the Southern Conference, and
21:50
Speaker 3: you know, the Southern Conference wasn't going to get two bids.
21:53
Speaker 3: But do you see where when a regular season champ
21:57
Speaker 3: in a league like that gets an invite to a
22:01
Speaker 3: mid major tournament with some major teams sprinkled in, they
22:05
Speaker 3: win it. What a statement that can make for them
22:10
Speaker 3: and that they can kind of say, hey, you know something,
22:13
Speaker 3: we beat this field. Just think what we could have
22:15
Speaker 3: done in the NCAAs. You know, you counted us out.
22:19
Speaker 3: We should have been in that large team. And I
22:22
Speaker 3: think you'll see fewer and fewer. You know, the gap
22:24
Speaker 3: between the majors and mid majors loose right now? Are
22:26
Speaker 3: really uh? Has really expanded. However, it is an intriguing
22:32
Speaker 3: thing that a regular season champ from a mid major
22:34
Speaker 3: major league that doesn't win their tournament, you know, and
22:37
Speaker 3: they go on and win an n I sort of
22:40
Speaker 3: does say, hey, you know something, we really did belong.
22:43
Speaker 1: Well give them a chip on their shoulders.
22:45
Speaker 3: What they do when Chad Nigger finished ninth, except the
22:49
Speaker 3: Chattanooga finished now eighth in their conference this year out
22:52
Speaker 3: of ten, so that chip didn't last too long.
22:55
Speaker 1: Well, no, I agree there, Okay, I thought, I.
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Speaker 6: Answered, you know, it's that's great input. Yeah, it's yeah.
23:05
Speaker 5: I pretty much said what I needed to say about
23:07
Speaker 5: that there. Yeah, that's it's it's good job, good job,
23:12
Speaker 5: Mark mccowey.
23:13
Speaker 1: So what's go on on time. His favorite person here
23:16
Speaker 1: and at the Pearls right because.
23:17
Speaker 4: I know he's wait now, man, I got to talk
23:20
Speaker 4: about Detroit.
23:21
Speaker 1: Oh, go ahead and talk about Detroit and then we'll
23:23
Speaker 1: go ahead, and I'll bet you do. Go ahead.
23:29
Speaker 4: Mark Montgomery was played for Johnny Heathcote in the late
23:33
Speaker 4: eighties and early nineties and in Michigan State, and at
23:36
Speaker 4: the time Tom Izzo was an assistant coach. Uh Montgomery
23:42
Speaker 4: was later the head coach at North of Illinois. He
23:44
Speaker 4: had some up and down success on the MAC one year,
23:48
Speaker 4: and he was also spent a long time as uh Is.
23:52
Speaker 4: He brought him back to Michigan State as an assistant coach.
23:55
Speaker 4: He might you know, he might be a guy that
23:57
Speaker 4: would be in position to succeed is e sept He's
24:00
Speaker 4: fifty five, so he's going to be you know, I
24:04
Speaker 4: expect this. It'll coach another two, three, four years, so
24:07
Speaker 4: he'll be pushing sixty by then. But yeah, Detroit, though
24:12
Speaker 4: they were miserable one in thirty one and then Montgomery's
24:16
Speaker 4: first year, he got him to eight and twenty four.
24:18
Speaker 4: This year they went on a run. They you know,
24:21
Speaker 4: they're still he's still really rebuilding the program. But they
24:24
Speaker 4: went on a run in the Eyes in the Horizon
24:26
Speaker 4: Tournament to the semi finals too. You know, that's why
24:30
Speaker 4: they became a kind of a hot item for it.
24:32
Speaker 4: They were, but overall their record was seventeen and fifty.
24:35
Speaker 4: Still a big turnaround for me twenty four. But that's
24:38
Speaker 4: probably why they didn't get invited into the NIT. But
24:42
Speaker 4: when you're talking about Detroit, uh, you're talking about a
24:45
Speaker 4: lot of basketball history. Spencer Hawley laid.
24:49
Speaker 7: In Detroit.
24:51
Speaker 4: In the nineteen sixty eight Olympics. He he was from
24:54
Speaker 4: Detroit Pershing and his teammate in high school was Ralph
24:59
Speaker 4: Simpson and played a long time in the ABA and
25:02
Speaker 4: NBA and at Michigan State. You imagine those two guys
25:06
Speaker 4: on the same team. They went unbeaten and just destroyed
25:09
Speaker 4: any team they played in Michigan on the way to
25:12
Speaker 4: the state title. But Spencer Haywood went to Trinidad Junior
25:16
Speaker 4: College and after that that was the nineteen sixty eight Olympics.
25:22
Speaker 4: That was when a lot of the black athletes boycotted
25:25
Speaker 4: the Olympics, including Kareem then Ruel Cinder, and so Spencer
25:31
Speaker 4: Haywood ended up on the Olympic team and he saved
25:35
Speaker 4: the Americans. They won the gold medal. There was a
25:39
Speaker 4: lot of talk that this was going to be the
25:40
Speaker 4: first time the Russians won the gold medal, but Spencer
25:43
Speaker 4: Haywood had a monster Olympics, followed that up with an
25:46
Speaker 4: All American season at Detroit and then he went He
25:50
Speaker 4: was with the first guy to go hardship when he
25:53
Speaker 4: signed with the ABA. But you also have to talk
25:55
Speaker 4: about Vitals teams. When he was at Detroit. He had
25:59
Speaker 4: been assistant at Rutgers when they went to the Final four,
26:04
Speaker 4: and Detroit hired him, and he was able to successfully
26:08
Speaker 4: recruit a lot of Detroit talent from Detroit high school talent.
26:12
Speaker 4: They usually didn't stay home, guys like John Long and
26:15
Speaker 4: Tarry Terry Tyler. They ended up in the NBA. And
26:20
Speaker 4: I like to tell this story. So when Vital went
26:23
Speaker 4: to the Pistons, they had promoted Smoky Gains as the
26:27
Speaker 4: head coach, and I like to tell this story. Is
26:30
Speaker 4: magic freshman year and they went down to Detroit and
26:36
Speaker 4: played at Calahan Hall, and I saw the best dunk.
26:40
Speaker 4: I say this many times. I saw the best dunk
26:43
Speaker 4: I've ever seen. Michigan State was still unranked all. They
26:47
Speaker 4: ended up going to the Elite eight that year. It
26:49
Speaker 4: was Magic's freshman year and Detroit was ranked and the
26:54
Speaker 4: Spartans they blew him out of the gym. They scored
26:57
Speaker 4: a hundred points, but on one break way Magic was
27:01
Speaker 4: going down the court one of those breakaway scenes, Terry
27:06
Speaker 4: Tyler and John Long future NBA players that were leapers,
27:10
Speaker 4: were chasing after him. Magic goes up in the air
27:15
Speaker 4: for a casual layup with his right hand and Terry
27:21
Speaker 4: Long and and John Long are swatting at the ball
27:27
Speaker 4: and Magic just dropped the ball with his left hand
27:31
Speaker 4: behind him. He had an empty hand going to the basket.
27:35
Speaker 4: The ball took one bounce. Greg Kelser swooped it up
27:39
Speaker 4: on a full blast sprint and slammed it. I still
27:44
Speaker 4: say that's the greatest junk I've ever seen. And then
27:47
Speaker 4: smoaking games. He had it going for a few years there,
27:50
Speaker 4: replacing the vital but then he fell out of favor.
27:54
Speaker 4: Smokey used to use all of Dick Vittel's lines when
27:58
Speaker 4: he was at Detroit. He would just repeat. None of
28:01
Speaker 4: it was original. He just repeated everything you learned from Dick.
28:04
Speaker 1: Fight Tel I had a nothing wrong with that though,
28:07
Speaker 1: I mean your Magic Johnson, Dreg Kelser and now I
28:10
Speaker 1: know the University of Detroit authority as well.
28:13
Speaker 4: On top of Michigan State.
28:16
Speaker 1: That was good.
28:17
Speaker 4: But just know Spencer Haywood and then I remember that
28:20
Speaker 4: game Detroit because I was in college.
28:24
Speaker 7: At the time.
28:25
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know that. I mean, now he's a
28:27
Speaker 1: smart ed he became a Titan today, at least for
28:30
Speaker 1: this segment.
28:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know they talk about when people talk about
28:33
Speaker 4: the great dunks, they talk about windmills and all that stuff.
28:36
Speaker 4: I say, the best one of the way Magic Johnson
28:39
Speaker 4: had had Terry Tyler and John Loung swatting at his
28:44
Speaker 4: empty hand and Kelsey coming down like a free tream.
28:50
Speaker 1: Candy. What do you want to add to that?
28:52
Speaker 8: Detroit Mercy has retired eleven jerseys in their program history.
28:58
Speaker 8: They've quit, twenty three alumni have gone on to play
29:01
Speaker 8: in the NBA and two have played in the NBA
29:06
Speaker 8: G League. So quite a history. I mean, anytime you're
29:11
Speaker 8: retiring eleven jerseys, that's that's a lot because there's only
29:14
Speaker 8: so many numbers, you know, especially for basketball.
29:16
Speaker 1: So they've had a pretty good rich addition down there.
29:19
Speaker 1: So over them entire level.
29:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, another name I should have mentioned.
29:23
Speaker 1: Dave de Busters again, he's probably want to be retired
29:27
Speaker 1: during from.
29:28
Speaker 4: The Detroit High School. And I think they're remodeling Callahan Hall.
29:32
Speaker 4: I think they're putting some money into it. And is
29:36
Speaker 4: being the coach that he is, agreed to play Detroit.
29:40
Speaker 4: That kind of helped Mark Montgomery with exposure. You know,
29:43
Speaker 4: a lot of times coach k never liked to play
29:46
Speaker 4: his old players who became coaches. He never liked to
29:50
Speaker 4: beat them. But is knew it was important to Montgomery
29:52
Speaker 4: and trying to build a program. And so they played
29:55
Speaker 4: last year and I think they're going to play again
29:57
Speaker 4: next year.
29:58
Speaker 1: But time is those good about that though, Tommy think
30:01
Speaker 1: aud he plays Oakland University every year for the most part,
30:04
Speaker 1: that any get these well right, So he's good when
30:08
Speaker 1: Oakland ere He'll go ahead and play a lot of
30:11
Speaker 1: these teams out about tom Izzo will play anybody. He's
30:15
Speaker 1: not afraid to play anybody. Figure that and helping him out.
30:18
Speaker 1: Tom Izzo, Yeah, you're right, they're just notarn't enough of
30:20
Speaker 1: him around. So all right, let's keep moving along here.
30:24
Speaker 1: You know a couple of people have to get out
30:25
Speaker 1: of here at town. I want to get to as
30:26
Speaker 1: much as again. One of the time he favorite people
30:28
Speaker 1: is Steve Pearl because he got a five year deal
30:31
Speaker 1: uh during the fall, and obviously his first season at
30:34
Speaker 1: the Helm was anything but because he did fall, did
30:36
Speaker 1: seventeen to sixty and he made the n I t
30:38
Speaker 1: he didn't make the n C two. A must of
30:40
Speaker 1: the dismay of Bruce Pearl. Tommy, you're bringing out spoken
30:44
Speaker 1: about the Pears or you're talking about.
30:48
Speaker 4: And you know it's it's nepotism at its worst. It's
30:52
Speaker 4: nothing unusual about that. Bobby Knight did the same thing
30:55
Speaker 4: for his kid at Texas Tech.
30:58
Speaker 2: Uh.
30:59
Speaker 4: But Bobby Knight didn't go on TV and thump drums
31:03
Speaker 4: to get Auburn and admitted to the NCAA Tournament over
31:07
Speaker 4: Miami of Ohio or some other mid major like Bruce Pearl.
31:12
Speaker 4: Bruce Pearl, he's turned out to be a real con
31:16
Speaker 4: man with if you watch him, if you follow his
31:19
Speaker 4: stuff on Twitter. But anyways, Auburn, this is how bad
31:24
Speaker 4: it is at Auburn. They put something out on Twitter today.
31:29
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, Auburn's record was eighteen and seventeen something
31:33
Speaker 4: like that, and they put something on Twitter today that
31:37
Speaker 4: Steve Pearl set the Auburn record for a first year
31:40
Speaker 4: of coach with eighteen wins, broke the record of a
31:45
Speaker 4: guy named Joel Eves who went seventeen and seven back
31:51
Speaker 4: in nineteen forty nine fifty. Obviously, they played a lot
31:54
Speaker 4: fewer games, a little bit of a difference between eighteen
31:57
Speaker 4: and seventeen and seventeen and seven.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, go ahead, Marky, great stuff.
32:05
Speaker 3: I'm reminded some of the modern day record that don't
32:10
Speaker 3: really mean anything. First first first year coach at our
32:13
Speaker 3: program to win eighteen games, Hm, that actually sounds to
32:16
Speaker 3: me like you're not that great of a basketball program.
32:19
Speaker 3: And really, before Charles Barkley, I don't think Auburn never
32:22
Speaker 3: even made the NCAA tournament. You know, that was a
32:26
Speaker 3: football school and basketball was a tremendous afterthought until Sunny
32:32
Speaker 3: Smith coached there and Charles Barkley played there. But anyway,
32:36
Speaker 3: the interesting thing about the Pearl family, and maybe I say,
32:40
Speaker 3: they really do know how to get people to like
32:44
Speaker 3: them and have teflon you will have I know we're
32:49
Speaker 3: going to be talking a little bit about Rick Barnes
32:51
Speaker 3: in the future. You will have half of Knoxville that
32:55
Speaker 3: if they could snap their fingers today, even with the
32:59
Speaker 3: show call penalty, they would fire Rick Barnes for Bruce Pearl.
33:06
Speaker 3: Is that because Rick Barnes is a horrible coak? Absolutely not.
33:10
Speaker 3: In fact, there's nothing that Pearl has done or did
33:14
Speaker 3: at Tennessee that Barnes has not. But it's just somehow
33:19
Speaker 3: his personality. You know, he didn't play college basketball, but
33:23
Speaker 3: somehow his personnelity can win you over. He leaves Tennessee,
33:30
Speaker 3: his assistants are on show cause penalties and all this.
33:34
Speaker 3: But somehow, oh, now Auburn, you know, Gret, let's go there.
33:39
Speaker 3: Somehow he is a teflon coach. Now you are seeing this,
33:44
Speaker 3: I'm reminded. You know, you say Bruce Pearl does rub
33:47
Speaker 3: people the wrong way. I don't know if anybody remembers
33:51
Speaker 3: when he during a halftime interview rubbed up against Aaron Andrews.
33:56
Speaker 3: And yet somehow, I mean, this would get other people
33:59
Speaker 3: fired somehow. It's all you know, good old Bruce. And
34:06
Speaker 3: just in closing, I'll just say this. You know you
34:10
Speaker 3: mentioned tom Izzo before, and I know I cover Etsu
34:14
Speaker 3: a bit East Tennessee State. Back when edit Chillis many
34:18
Speaker 3: years ago was the coach at Etsu. He got a
34:22
Speaker 3: home and Home series of Tom Izzo and Michigan State
34:26
Speaker 3: to help him advance what was a really down program
34:30
Speaker 3: that was big. That you can get a home and
34:32
Speaker 3: home when you're just ETSU with Michigan State well as
34:35
Speaker 3: Miami of Ohio proves it's difficult, much more difficult even
34:39
Speaker 3: today for the mid majors to schedule. And when Steve Forbes,
34:45
Speaker 3: a former Bruce Pearl assistant who was given a show
34:47
Speaker 3: cause penalty under Pearl, was at ETSU, I mentioned the
34:54
Speaker 3: story about Izzo and Eddie, Chillis said to me, Tom
34:58
Speaker 3: did me a favor, and I ask, K, doesn't Bruce
35:02
Speaker 3: Pearl owe you a favor in hopes of maybe Auburn
35:06
Speaker 3: and Etsu getting a series or something like that, and
35:10
Speaker 3: Forbes came right back to me, I don't have that
35:13
Speaker 3: kind of a relationship with Bruce Pearl.
35:16
Speaker 2: That was his former right hand man.
35:18
Speaker 1: Okay, answer Earl's question about Rick Patino. I think he's
35:22
Speaker 1: getting to raise the same John he deserves every nickel
35:25
Speaker 1: of that. He's done a well with job there. Okay,
35:27
Speaker 1: we'll turn over to you to Cliff Well.
35:30
Speaker 5: I mean he's been on the team since twenty fourteen, and.
35:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, eighteen wins seventeen loss is not very good.
35:38
Speaker 5: I do have a question about you're mentioning his dad
35:43
Speaker 5: rubbing up on Aaron Andrews. Did that happen before or
35:46
Speaker 5: after she had her the big thing with the guy who.
35:51
Speaker 3: Still It was before, as I recall, it was during
35:55
Speaker 3: a Tennessee Memphis basketball game, and I want to say
36:00
Speaker 3: seventeen eighteen years ago.
36:02
Speaker 5: Okay, So I mean it's either I'm not I'm not
36:05
Speaker 5: saying it's okay at all either way, but what he
36:08
Speaker 5: did there.
36:09
Speaker 6: But I think if that would have happened like after.
36:14
Speaker 5: The controversy, I think that would have like really blown
36:16
Speaker 5: up her having to deal with that, and then I
36:20
Speaker 5: mean she's probably dealt with a lot of other stuff
36:22
Speaker 5: that you never even hear about, which is terrible. But yeah,
36:26
Speaker 5: so it's I mean, it's yeah, nepotism. I don't know
36:32
Speaker 5: how well that really works with Yeah, you have some
36:36
Speaker 5: coaches that follow the dad and they do pretty good,
36:40
Speaker 5: but lots of other times they don't. Just because he
36:43
Speaker 5: got the same name doesn't mean it's gonna get the
36:45
Speaker 5: same sort of.
36:47
Speaker 6: Of success.
36:50
Speaker 5: He'll probably have the job longer than he should should
36:54
Speaker 5: deserve it because of the last name.
36:57
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's we'll see what happens with that.
37:02
Speaker 5: I mean, but you know how the school's gonna be
37:04
Speaker 5: with those kind of things and traditions and names and stuff,
37:08
Speaker 5: so I stuff like that.
37:10
Speaker 7: So all right, Tommy, Well I already common there.
37:17
Speaker 4: But I do have one thing I want to add
37:19
Speaker 4: about Auburn is you know, Auburn signed Henry Hill as
37:25
Speaker 4: their first black basketball player in This was nineteen sixty eight,
37:29
Speaker 4: sixty nine season, and that was two years before Bear
37:34
Speaker 4: Bryant ever signed a black player in on his football
37:37
Speaker 4: program in the nineteen seventy seventy one season. Yet if
37:41
Speaker 4: you talk to the average fan, they'll say Bear Bryant
37:44
Speaker 4: was the one out there leading the way. So Auburn
37:48
Speaker 4: was two years I had a Bear Brian in basketball,
37:52
Speaker 4: one year I had a Bear Bryant with James Owens
37:55
Speaker 4: at football, and even Alabama's basketball coach was one year
37:59
Speaker 4: I had of Bear Bryant in football. And then the
38:03
Speaker 4: other thing that separates Auburn from Alabama. Auburn doesn't get
38:06
Speaker 4: enough credit for being ahead of Alabama. The other thing
38:10
Speaker 4: that separates them is the athletic director from back in
38:13
Speaker 4: those days has apologized for the school and his own role.
38:20
Speaker 4: He says, not only should they have recruited black players earlier,
38:25
Speaker 4: they should have recruited more of them, not just one,
38:28
Speaker 4: leaving these guys isolated on the campus. They've apologized. Alabama's
38:33
Speaker 4: never apologized for anything. In fact, they distorted this story
38:37
Speaker 4: to make them sound like they were crusaders and they
38:40
Speaker 4: were anything but.
38:43
Speaker 1: Okay, Kendy, you have a last word on this, and
38:45
Speaker 1: I do want to get to Rick Barnswell. We have
38:49
Speaker 1: Marky on.
38:50
Speaker 8: On January twenty fourth, Pearls Tigers upset the defending national
38:55
Speaker 8: champions number sixteen Florida Gators on the road by a
38:59
Speaker 8: score of seventy six to sixty seven, snapping a thirty
39:04
Speaker 8: year drought of Auburn victories in Gainesville. The other thing
39:10
Speaker 8: is is Auburn collapsed down the stretch. They lost nine
39:14
Speaker 8: of their final twelve and that's why they're not dancing
39:17
Speaker 8: right now. But is it a good hire?
39:22
Speaker 7: I don't know.
39:23
Speaker 8: I like Bruce Pearl as a coach, so it'll remain
39:27
Speaker 8: to be seen how Steven does.
39:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I do Pearl. Bruce Pearl as a coach.
39:33
Speaker 1: Everywhere he's done, he's won. So it's interesting. You know,
39:37
Speaker 1: obviously had one year he gets to go in the
39:40
Speaker 1: I T so I mean, let's see if you can
39:42
Speaker 1: win against he also ran as far as go to
39:45
Speaker 1: the chattering world. I don't think Miami Ohio is a
39:48
Speaker 1: Cinderella team. I just don't don't see it. I mean,
39:52
Speaker 1: do you think there the mac competition is a lot
39:55
Speaker 1: different than we have in the NICK Tournament. All right,
39:57
Speaker 1: let's go to what we have, Mark and Tommy after
40:00
Speaker 1: another twelve minutes, I wanted to get to at least
40:02
Speaker 1: two more toughs if I can. Tennessee basketball coach and
40:05
Speaker 1: I'll know, thirty nine years as a Division one coach,
40:09
Speaker 1: thirty LA tournament bent Rick Barnes actually ty Roy Williams
40:13
Speaker 1: for the third most NCAA tournament sift all time, Mike
40:16
Speaker 1: Schefsky thirty six, Jim behind thirty five of the league
40:20
Speaker 1: others at thirty plus. That's pretty good company, though, is
40:23
Speaker 1: that Marty?
40:25
Speaker 3: Uh?
40:25
Speaker 2: Yes, it is. And I'll give you this.
40:28
Speaker 3: Rick Barnes when he came to Tennessee, I was, you know, saying,
40:31
Speaker 3: and it is. It's it is weird, but if you
40:34
Speaker 3: did go to Knoxville and you asked half the Tennessee fans,
40:38
Speaker 3: would you fire, you know, Rick Barnes for for Bruce Pearl,
40:43
Speaker 3: I'm telling you half of them would say yes. And
40:45
Speaker 3: it's boggles the mind. But this is just the hold
40:49
Speaker 3: that the Pearls have on some on some fans and
40:52
Speaker 3: some teams that they've coached at. But Barnes actually has
40:55
Speaker 3: done more at Tennessee than Pearl ever did.
40:58
Speaker 1: Well.
40:58
Speaker 3: Pearl was the first I think they ever take the
41:01
Speaker 3: Balls to number one ranking. Barnes just done that twice.
41:05
Speaker 3: And another thing that Barnes just didn't win the SEC tournament,
41:10
Speaker 3: something the Balls hadn't done since nineteen seventy nine. He
41:16
Speaker 3: is Barnes is a very likable coach. The only problem
41:21
Speaker 3: ever made the final four. So he's got that sort
41:24
Speaker 3: of like Mike Tomlin, storm Cloud or Marty Shott and
41:28
Speaker 3: never mentioned earlier, you know, and all that.
41:30
Speaker 2: It just you know, geez, all those teams he's had
41:34
Speaker 2: no final four. What's what's going on here? You know?
41:36
Speaker 3: And all this, So that's something to look at it
41:40
Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament. You know, how far can a Rick
41:42
Speaker 3: Barnes team go?
41:44
Speaker 1: Well, the thing back.
41:46
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, but I'm sorry.
41:48
Speaker 1: Well that's okay. A chance to work with coach Barnes
41:50
Speaker 1: when it was a Providence and not in Texas, but
41:53
Speaker 1: even better guy. And he's done a good job in
41:55
Speaker 1: tent with Tennessee once upon a nine time known for
41:58
Speaker 1: women's basketball, done a good job with the men's program
42:01
Speaker 1: as well.
42:01
Speaker 5: All right, I mean to to be in that company
42:07
Speaker 5: says something. No, he hasn't won quite as well as
42:12
Speaker 5: you know coach k and some of the others, but
42:16
Speaker 5: I mean to still at least be consistent, consistent and
42:20
Speaker 5: be in the dance as many times as you can
42:23
Speaker 5: be there and and and and really have that kind
42:26
Speaker 5: of success. To just get a chance to be there
42:29
Speaker 5: so often. Uh, it says something for his u for
42:33
Speaker 5: what he's done there. I don't know when he's gonna retire.
42:38
Speaker 5: Is in his seventies now, and so it's.
42:43
Speaker 1: Enjoying him.
42:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's say, keep going, keep going, and just if
42:49
Speaker 5: you're having fun with it, keep going.
42:52
Speaker 6: But yeah, he's he's he's he's he's there again.
42:57
Speaker 4: Yeah.
42:57
Speaker 6: The the n C double a try.
42:59
Speaker 5: I noticed that they have a play in for the
43:02
Speaker 5: eleventh seed, which I don't get to me. I can
43:07
Speaker 5: understand the sixteen seeds, but they have a play in
43:09
Speaker 5: for the eleventh seed. I kind of lost lost what
43:15
Speaker 5: they were doing with the whole NCAA tournament when they
43:17
Speaker 5: went past the sixty four and I figured, like maybe
43:20
Speaker 5: the sixteens, but an eleventh seed. That's just odd to
43:23
Speaker 5: me that they have to wait to see what's going
43:25
Speaker 5: on with that game. But I'm sure he's gonna win
43:26
Speaker 5: the game, you know, and they'll probably go a couple
43:29
Speaker 5: of rounds. But yeah, he's he's done a good job.
43:33
Speaker 5: And I mean to being like I said, to be
43:35
Speaker 5: in that kind of that kind of company, says something Tommy.
43:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a great career with success of Providence,
43:44
Speaker 4: turned that job into Clemson in the ACC, had success there,
43:48
Speaker 4: made it to Texas, had success at Texas. But I
43:51
Speaker 4: guess they went a couple of tough seasons in Texas
43:56
Speaker 4: bailed on on him too quickly. I don't think Texas
43:58
Speaker 4: has ever really recovered been any better than they were
44:02
Speaker 4: since said so, he's he's always been a good coach
44:06
Speaker 4: everywhere he's been. And as long as we're talking about personalities,
44:10
Speaker 4: he and Tom Izzo are very good friends. And as
44:13
Speaker 4: an example of that, remember when they had the fires
44:17
Speaker 4: in Maui and they had to They didn't cancel the
44:21
Speaker 4: Maui Classic, but they had to move it off the
44:23
Speaker 4: island to the mainland. Barnes and Izzo got together and
44:28
Speaker 4: played an exhibition game with all the proceeds going to
44:32
Speaker 4: the Miami Are the Maui Relief Fund.
44:35
Speaker 1: Hey, Tommy, do you think you'd give me an extra
44:37
Speaker 1: ten minutes or so from the after so we could
44:40
Speaker 1: get to all the college shopics all you're onto your mind? Okay, Yeah,
44:44
Speaker 1: that'd be good because I know you like to talk
44:45
Speaker 1: about college basketball, and I loaded the show will get
44:48
Speaker 1: that that you're able to do it. So Candy.
44:54
Speaker 8: His overall head coaching record is eight fifty eight and
44:58
Speaker 8: four thirty four the tournaments, He's thirty three and twenty
45:02
Speaker 8: eight in the NIT. He's five and four long longevity career.
45:07
Speaker 8: That's why we're mentioning his name with all those other greats.
45:11
Speaker 1: Well, let's continue talking about great coaches that if me
45:13
Speaker 1: more I want to talk about. That's why I named
45:17
Speaker 1: this show here college football, college backball, legendary coaches, because
45:22
Speaker 1: there are coaches will leave five book programs at the
45:25
Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament include Fran McCaffery, Steve Alford, W Smith, Rick Patino,
45:30
Speaker 1: and Lon Krueger. All right, we'll start it off with you, Marqui.
45:35
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the five coaches that you're say five coaches,
45:39
Speaker 3: five coaches are the coaches that have taken five teams.
45:42
Speaker 3: I'll get it out of my mouth. Uh to the
45:44
Speaker 3: NCAA tournament. That was what Krueger, Patino and who else
45:47
Speaker 3: do you have?
45:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got you have McCaffery offered, Yeah, okay, let
45:55
Speaker 1: me go over it again. I'm not tripping myself here.
46:00
Speaker 1: By programs you have Fran McCaffrey, Steve Alford, Tubby Smith, Plaine,
46:05
Speaker 1: run Nkruger.
46:08
Speaker 3: The question that I have is, I mean, if you're
46:11
Speaker 3: taking five different teams the NCAAs, it sort of says
46:15
Speaker 3: to me that there was a team somewhere in your
46:20
Speaker 3: history as a coach that you departed from that should
46:24
Speaker 3: have kept you.
46:27
Speaker 2: I mean that sort of the take that I would get.
46:30
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we know that Patino is mobile.
46:33
Speaker 3: I mean, you know for a variety of reasons, you
46:35
Speaker 3: know and all that, But you listen to some of
46:37
Speaker 3: those names and how did Alford bounce around so many?
46:41
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, shouldn't there be like a big ten
46:44
Speaker 3: team that sort of said, yeah, Steve Alford from the
46:47
Speaker 3: eighty seventh title team, let's let's make him r coach
46:50
Speaker 3: for life and all that. It's somewhat surprising that those
46:53
Speaker 3: guys are bouncing around as much as they are.
46:56
Speaker 1: When are you talking about started out in Isoland, that
46:59
Speaker 1: he goes in Mexico, goes East La, and then he
47:02
Speaker 1: ends up with Evana and wherever else?
47:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but I mean you would think that
47:07
Speaker 3: a guy with that background, and you mentioned Iowa, and
47:09
Speaker 3: of course he was a point guard of the eighty
47:11
Speaker 3: seven national champions in Indiana plant for Bobby, you'd think
47:14
Speaker 3: that there'd be some big ten team that would look
47:17
Speaker 3: at the Steve Alford and say, yeah, that's who we want,
47:20
Speaker 3: and you know, somewhere along the line and you know,
47:23
Speaker 3: he'd have that ten or fifteen year career there. So
47:27
Speaker 3: outside of Iowa a short period of time, it just
47:30
Speaker 3: hasn't really happened for him.
47:33
Speaker 1: I love your Canada or Marquee, but those are fine,
47:38
Speaker 1: all right. Cl If you have anything you want to
47:39
Speaker 1: add to this real.
47:40
Speaker 6: Quick, it's kind of odd.
47:43
Speaker 5: I mean, these coaches are really do really well. Maybe
47:47
Speaker 5: is it a personality thing or is there some sort
47:51
Speaker 5: of I don't know.
47:52
Speaker 6: I don't know these guys.
47:53
Speaker 5: Is there some some some tension behind the scenes or
47:57
Speaker 5: with administrators or college president, I don't know.
48:01
Speaker 4: Maybe the.
48:04
Speaker 6: Boosters didn't like them. I don't know. It's or I
48:08
Speaker 6: don't know.
48:08
Speaker 5: I can't explain why if you have got guys who
48:11
Speaker 5: can be successful but they just jump around. I think
48:17
Speaker 5: winding would be good enough.
48:19
Speaker 4: But I.
48:21
Speaker 1: Cliff wanted to left jump a little bit here. Number one.
48:23
Speaker 1: These are five quality coaches and they have a way
48:26
Speaker 1: to turn programs around. And there's definitely uh they've done
48:30
Speaker 1: more powers on Tommy.
48:33
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, the one thing they all have in common
48:35
Speaker 4: is they they started out at a smaller school and
48:38
Speaker 4: worked their way up to the top. You know. I
48:40
Speaker 4: think Patino's first job was Boston University, not Boston College,
48:45
Speaker 4: and he just kept climbing the ladder, and then of
48:48
Speaker 4: course he got in his NCA trouble and he's managed
48:52
Speaker 4: to work his way back to Saint John's. Lon Kruger
48:55
Speaker 4: was a Kansas State went to Florida Illinois, and then
48:59
Speaker 4: he made a mistake could go into the NBA, and
49:02
Speaker 4: so he got knocked down a few pigs, but he
49:04
Speaker 4: was still a valuable and left coach that Vegas hired
49:07
Speaker 4: him and then he made it to Oklahoma. Steve Alford
49:11
Speaker 4: kind of a similar story. I went in Mexico and
49:14
Speaker 4: now uh Nevad I think he's at So they all
49:19
Speaker 4: all for that many schools. They all started out lower level,
49:23
Speaker 4: worked their way up to the top for whatever reason,
49:26
Speaker 4: got knocked down a peg, and still managed to take
49:29
Speaker 4: another school of the NCAA.
49:32
Speaker 1: I think it's credit to these guys. I really did.
49:35
Speaker 1: And the last word, I only have a couple more
49:37
Speaker 1: to going on a little late note from me asking
49:39
Speaker 1: about Washington Post. So that's all we have left on
49:41
Speaker 1: the show. And Marky, if you have to go, I understand,
49:44
Speaker 1: Uh you have to go exactly ten. I know that's
49:47
Speaker 1: or that's up to you. Markey, I don't want to.
49:50
Speaker 3: I would just say this with the ESPN Washington Post,
49:53
Speaker 3: I'm disappointed that the Washington Post has decided.
49:57
Speaker 2: To get rid of the sports section. Historically the newspaper.
50:02
Speaker 3: Of course, being a sports writer there, I've always felt
50:05
Speaker 3: the best writers were on the sports page. For no
50:08
Speaker 3: other reason, the deadline you have to meet are much
50:11
Speaker 3: more constant in sports. Uh. The you can have a
50:15
Speaker 3: much more creative pros in sports than you can in
50:19
Speaker 3: writing hard news and such.
50:21
Speaker 2: So it's a more.
50:22
Speaker 3: Creator you know, you're you're really talking about people and
50:26
Speaker 3: in sports, uh not so much. Well, you talk about offense,
50:30
Speaker 3: but you know there's that features and all that. It
50:33
Speaker 3: surprises me not though, that ESPN is hiring these sports writers.
50:38
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know, Tony Korneiser is now more
50:41
Speaker 3: famous for pardon the interruption than he ever was for
50:44
Speaker 3: The Washington Post. Let's let's base that back, and historically
50:50
Speaker 3: ESPN does this. Uh I'm curious, Well, the sports reporters
50:55
Speaker 3: come back. I'd love to see it, but I don't
50:57
Speaker 3: think it will. But you know, but it's something that
51:00
Speaker 3: the ESPN does. But it also, i will say, does
51:04
Speaker 3: sort of mention the political leanings of both ESPN and
51:08
Speaker 3: the Post that that would be where they would be
51:11
Speaker 3: hired and such. So you know, I mean, we know
51:16
Speaker 3: we know what the editorial leanings of both the Posts
51:19
Speaker 3: and ESPN what they are, so it's not a surprise.
51:22
Speaker 3: But yeah, I do see where it's going. I'm glad
51:25
Speaker 3: the guys working for the Post get still get.
51:29
Speaker 2: Paid doing what they do.
51:31
Speaker 3: So well, that's good, it is, but I do think
51:35
Speaker 3: that it is speaking very poorly of the Washington Post,
51:38
Speaker 3: which had a great sports section for how many years?
51:42
Speaker 2: Is this said? Now we can't keep that. It's not
51:46
Speaker 2: the paper it once was.
51:47
Speaker 1: When you do that, yeah, anytime, anytime a report of
51:52
Speaker 1: the land John somewhere, I'm always happening as a job,
51:54
Speaker 1: they're just appearing.
51:55
Speaker 3: More power to you, all right, And with that, I
51:58
Speaker 3: bid you ado go check out uh yeah, go check
52:02
Speaker 3: out M A R K Y B I L L.
52:04
Speaker 3: So when the fourth on YouTube or TikTok, if you
52:09
Speaker 3: want to know the latest on East Tennessee state, I.
52:11
Speaker 1: Will see that one day. Market. Thank you much for
52:13
Speaker 1: being here, all right. With that said, we'll stay on
52:17
Speaker 1: that topic real quickly about ESPN absorbing or taking on
52:23
Speaker 1: those writers clip what are your thoughts? Obviously you live
52:25
Speaker 1: in that area.
52:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah, I teach out a tows and universities,
52:29
Speaker 5: so we we're not that far away from d C.
52:32
Speaker 5: And when that when that news came down that OLO
52:36
Speaker 5: sports reporters wound up, they said, oh, we're not going
52:39
Speaker 5: to do sports anymore. That was huge. Well, obviously DC
52:44
Speaker 5: is a big sports town and Washington Post is such
52:47
Speaker 5: a big outlet there, and uh, you know, and I
52:50
Speaker 5: come from a little bit different at uh angle with
52:54
Speaker 5: it from the sick that you know. I came from
52:56
Speaker 5: TV too, and I did work in TV news and
53:01
Speaker 5: I'm also now teaching the kids. It might have also
53:05
Speaker 5: come down to just money wise, because the way we
53:10
Speaker 5: have now, it's it's you know, it's trying to hire
53:14
Speaker 5: and hire journalists. The kids now have to know more
53:19
Speaker 5: now do more different things than ever before. It's not
53:22
Speaker 5: like when you guys got started and you've had to
53:24
Speaker 5: adapt like ridiculous amounts from when you first started to
53:28
Speaker 5: what you do now.
53:29
Speaker 6: They have to know so much more. And when it
53:31
Speaker 6: comes down to.
53:32
Speaker 5: Money, a lot of these people are probably making a
53:34
Speaker 5: good amount of money and that's what they look at,
53:37
Speaker 5: and it's not right. It takes away from from the
53:40
Speaker 5: Washington Post, ESPN. Yeah, they went in there. There's some
53:44
Speaker 5: top not journalists. Why wouldn't we hire them? I know
53:48
Speaker 5: the Baltimore Banner by US has hired a couple of people,
53:51
Speaker 5: at least one person I think from the from the
53:54
Speaker 5: Washington Post.
53:56
Speaker 6: So I mean it's and it's not as bad. I
53:59
Speaker 6: mean there's left jobs.
54:01
Speaker 5: But there's more things you can do independently with technology
54:05
Speaker 5: now and have your own brand and stuff. So it
54:07
Speaker 5: is a different world where they might be able to
54:11
Speaker 5: maybe even ain't more money and you know, do a
54:14
Speaker 5: lot of different things.
54:15
Speaker 1: Hey Timmy, some quick thoughts. And they only have two
54:17
Speaker 1: more topics to go and they're both college basketball related.
54:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there are a lot of talented writers
54:23
Speaker 4: at the Washington Post, Kandas not just ESPN. Candas Buckner
54:28
Speaker 4: was a columnist and she's at The Athletic. And actually
54:32
Speaker 4: that's another example. What the Washington Post did isn't really
54:36
Speaker 4: that new, because the New York Times scrapped their sports
54:38
Speaker 4: department and they just give you the Athletic. The Athletic
54:43
Speaker 4: is the New York Times sports page. The difference is
54:47
Speaker 4: being that Jeff Bezous sold out The Washington Post to
54:52
Speaker 4: acquiesce to become a sickle fan for Trump. And then
54:57
Speaker 4: it's not about money because he spent sixty eight million
55:00
Speaker 4: dollars to make this phony movie about Belania documentary. So yeah,
55:05
Speaker 4: but yeah, it's not nothing. It is anything new because
55:08
Speaker 4: of the New York times for the athletic and yeah,
55:11
Speaker 4: it's just a completely different market. People don't read newspapers anymore.
55:16
Speaker 4: That's true.
55:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it or not witham me when you
55:18
Speaker 1: say that one of the reasons I created our platform
55:21
Speaker 1: here as I decided, I knew that I was never
55:23
Speaker 1: going to print them. But that's when I saw got
55:25
Speaker 1: ahead of it to go downline route that said I
55:27
Speaker 1: can do this. I have Candy doing behind the scenes
55:31
Speaker 1: stuff and that's just somethe all works out. Great point, Tommy,
55:34
Speaker 1: can you make a rapid fire. Two more topics and
55:37
Speaker 1: we're done. We're not going to mess around with the brackets.
55:39
Speaker 1: Nobody ever gets the right.
55:41
Speaker 4: You know.
55:43
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I wanted to isolate some key points
55:47
Speaker 1: and we'll continue to do that next week.
55:52
Speaker 8: I would I would just add the industry has changed.
55:55
Speaker 8: The industry has changed so much. If you want to
55:58
Speaker 8: read about the changes Scott's book, he talks about all
56:01
Speaker 8: that some of the industry changes in his book. Big
56:06
Speaker 8: newspapers are going by the wayside because people aren't picking up.
56:09
Speaker 8: You don't go to a doctor's office and see newspapers
56:12
Speaker 8: in there anymore. Sometimes you'll see magazines, but most of
56:15
Speaker 8: the time you see people on their phone reading on
56:17
Speaker 8: their phone instead.
56:19
Speaker 4: So that's the way of the.
56:23
Speaker 1: All right, final two topics and they are going to
56:25
Speaker 1: go rapid fire, so we can all get out of here.
56:27
Speaker 1: This is my third show. Obviously, we want to make
56:29
Speaker 1: sure that I have a couple of war left to go.
56:31
Speaker 1: But it's been a fun night talk to college basketball
56:34
Speaker 1: and these other topics. And we're going to go straight
56:36
Speaker 1: to John Caliperry as the first coach to win an
56:38
Speaker 1: SEC tournament championship at multiple schools. He has not won
56:42
Speaker 1: seven SEC titles. Quite an accomplishment, right.
56:44
Speaker 5: Cliff, Yeah, once again John Calipari. Everywhere he goes, he succeeds.
56:54
Speaker 5: He's doing it again. I'm not really surprised by that.
56:59
Speaker 5: It's you know, it's uh, you know, it's it's it's great.
57:02
Speaker 5: It's great to see. He had some issues there for
57:05
Speaker 5: a while, but some coaches do have some issues, some
57:07
Speaker 5: things pop up. But wherever he goes, he wins, and
57:11
Speaker 5: that's what really matters, and that brings money and fame
57:14
Speaker 5: to their schools.
57:16
Speaker 7: Tommy, Yeah, it's kind of similar story.
57:19
Speaker 4: You know, he took you mass to the NCAA Memphis.
57:24
Speaker 4: You know, made a mistake, go to the NBA, came
57:26
Speaker 4: back to college at Memphis Kentucky. Kentucky's not a good
57:30
Speaker 4: place to be as far as having the fans behind you, win, loser, tie,
57:36
Speaker 4: and so he actually made a smart decision to leave
57:39
Speaker 4: Kentucky and go to Arkansas and get it rolling again.
57:43
Speaker 1: Earl, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna get my
57:45
Speaker 1: fielding the sixty eight sheet of Candy, and if you
57:47
Speaker 1: want to hang in there for fire off, she can
57:49
Speaker 1: use it take some references off of that if she
57:51
Speaker 1: wants to. But I don't have the time to do
57:53
Speaker 1: the brackets and them on topic. But I'll hand it
57:55
Speaker 1: over to her and she'll have that as a no, Candy,
57:58
Speaker 1: go ahead, Coal About cal Perry, let me get a
58:00
Speaker 1: this guy is just unbelievable. He does whateverywhere he goes.
58:03
Speaker 1: He is their job on at Kentucky and now he's
58:06
Speaker 1: doing a good job with Arkansas. Go ahead, Candy.
58:09
Speaker 8: There's a reason why he's in the Basketball Hall of Fame.
58:13
Speaker 8: He's been in there since twenty fifteen, and that's because
58:16
Speaker 8: he is a good coach. Yes, he did the experimented
58:20
Speaker 8: in the NBA. It didn't work, there, but he is
58:22
Speaker 8: a really good, excellent college coach where he is nine
58:26
Speaker 8: oh three and two eighty five.
58:29
Speaker 1: Great stuff. All right, last topic of the night, talk
58:31
Speaker 1: about Rick Patino. He wins everywhere he goes. Boston University, Kentucky, Louisville, Iona,
58:36
Speaker 1: and Saint John. Okay, real's talk about Rick Patino. We'll
58:41
Speaker 1: probably get a contract excession from Saint John's anyway.
58:44
Speaker 6: Well, that's that's that's good to hear.
58:46
Speaker 5: I remember back in the days, back in the eighties
58:48
Speaker 5: with Providence Providence College, Yeah and yeah, with John Thompson
58:54
Speaker 5: Beam and Louis Cardiseca and all that.
58:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's uh.
58:58
Speaker 5: And if I have any college allegiance for college basketball
59:02
Speaker 5: goes back to the early eighties with Saint John's and
59:05
Speaker 5: Chris Mullen and Walter Berry and those guys. So it's
59:07
Speaker 5: good to see that he's uh, he's there. He's got
59:10
Speaker 5: them at the number five seed, I believe, and hey,
59:14
Speaker 5: they've been winning, so.
59:17
Speaker 6: I hope they can. Hope they can get to the
59:19
Speaker 6: elite eight. We'll see.
59:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Rick Patino has been a master wherever
59:24
Speaker 1: he's done and now to do what he's just done
59:26
Speaker 1: yet again, Live schools all right, Tommy.
59:30
Speaker 4: Yeah. The only thing you're surprised me about Patino that
59:33
Speaker 4: he's still got that ade to him.
59:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
59:36
Speaker 4: He's seventy three, I think, and I expect him to
59:40
Speaker 4: still be putting together a program like he has at
59:43
Speaker 4: Saint John's. It's pretty remarkable the way he turned out around.
59:47
Speaker 1: And you know, we're gonna make time for Shanahan reports
59:49
Speaker 1: in Tommy was so apt to hang in there with me,
59:52
Speaker 1: But we're gonna let him. We're gonna do it after
59:53
Speaker 1: Canny gets her word. End on that. More power to
59:55
Speaker 1: Rick Patino. I'd like to see him go as far
59:58
Speaker 1: as he can so I can.
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Speaker 8: As a collegiate head coach, Patino has compiled a record
1:00:03
Speaker 8: for a seven point of point seven to eight winning
1:00:07
Speaker 8: percentage that is ranked eleventh among active coaches and thirty
1:00:11
Speaker 8: fourth all time among all collegiate basketball coaches. He is
1:00:17
Speaker 8: one of the first coaches to promote fully taking advantage
1:00:21
Speaker 8: of the three point shot, first adopted by the NC
1:00:24
Speaker 8: two a back in nineteen eighty seven. He's a really
1:00:29
Speaker 8: He also is in the Basketball Hall of Fame, So
1:00:31
Speaker 8: kudos to him for his longevity in his career.
1:00:35
Speaker 1: And kudos for Shanny for staying around for a few minutes.
1:00:38
Speaker 1: And now we'll get to Shanahan Report to wrap up.
1:00:40
Speaker 1: Tommy is he is true. Tom Shanahan is truly one
1:00:44
Speaker 1: of my best friends in this business. Candy Shanny to
1:00:48
Speaker 1: me is a one. I'm so proud to have Tommy
1:00:50
Speaker 1: in my right hand man. He comes through all the
1:00:52
Speaker 1: time for me. He's MIAMVP on this network.
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Speaker 1: Great. So Tommy, Cliff Larry. Right now we can only
1:01:26
Speaker 1: get candy. We'll do the same for us and that
1:01:28
Speaker 1: we're done.
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Speaker 5: Go ahead, okay, just find me on Facebook Cliff Neil
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1:01:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you can see Cliff every Wednesday night
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