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- 0:00Speaker 1: For the Grizzlies. Who else is on the Grizzlies. No,
- 0:02Speaker 1: one's on the Grizzlies. Might as well play for like
- 0:07Speaker 1: the Shanghai Sharks at this point, bro, like he's not.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Even people forget how good drummer is.
- 0:13Speaker 3: No, he's not that good.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Actually he just start off the pod guy glorified offensive
- 0:19Speaker 1: player that can't even shoot a shoot a midi or
- 0:21Speaker 1: a three pointer and play.
- 0:23Speaker 2: He's not very good at three's better?
- 0:27Speaker 3: He actually doesn't.
- 0:28Speaker 1: He actually doesn't shoot a better three than Stephan Castle
- 0:31Speaker 1: percent from three since since the.
- 0:33Speaker 3: All Star Breaks. I don't know what you're talking about.
- 0:34Speaker 3: What are we talking about here? What are we talking about?
- 0:37Speaker 3: John Rants never touched those numbers? Ju Rance never touched those.
- 0:40Speaker 4: Numbersidember sixty three for the so called sports Ada lists
- 0:47Speaker 4: where it's already starting before the pod.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Josh better three point shooter than John Moran.
- 0:52Speaker 4: Also, so I don't even like Joe Harper is better,
- 0:55Speaker 4: but he's one of the most of the shooters. And you've.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Yeah, he almost went fifty to forty ninety almost. I
- 1:08Speaker 2: think he shot thirty eight from three.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Fonso's like, hey, we're going at host oh I thought
- 1:17Speaker 3: he did he's stuttering right now. Bonso's Damien.
- 1:23Speaker 4: Thirty eight from Internet.
- 1:25Speaker 2: He shot thirty eight from three and eighty eight from
- 1:27Speaker 2: the free throw line.
- 1:28Speaker 4: Dude, I know, but you.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Shot fifty five percent from the field, most ever by
- 1:32Speaker 2: a guard, averaging thirty plus points.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Yeah. Hell, bro, how's he going to rejoin his own invite? Crazy?
- 1:46Speaker 2: It's not gonna let him. It never lets me. Like
- 1:49Speaker 2: once I get off, bro, like I literally can't get back.
- 1:51Speaker 3: On it all.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a whole different account.
- 1:55Speaker 1: This guy's a major l and we're live right now,
- 1:58Speaker 1: live live.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Dude freaking on the west side.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Bro.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Cut the trees, Bro, cut the trees and pick up
- 2:12Speaker 1: the dog crap.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, Bro, But how have you been Josh?
- 2:20Speaker 1: Pretty chill spurs spurs playoffs about it be cooking.
- 2:26Speaker 2: I think the NBA players are gonna be really good.
- 2:29Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I haven't been like super tuned in,
- 2:32Speaker 2: been really tuned in on golf recently, But I.
- 2:35Speaker 3: Am not that hype for the Eastern Conference to be honest.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Eastern Conference is all chalk. It's all chalk. Like, I
- 2:44Speaker 2: don't I don't see anyone upsetting anyone. The plane is
- 2:48Speaker 2: gonna be miserable. No, I think the Hornets, whoever they play,
- 2:51Speaker 2: will be a really good series. It's crazy how I've
- 2:55Speaker 2: never liked the Hornets, like, I genuinely did not like them,
- 2:57Speaker 2: then conjoined and I like the winners.
- 3:02Speaker 1: I guess, like, let's just jump into the pod while
- 3:05Speaker 1: this guy's doing I don't.
- 3:06Speaker 2: You think he's coming back?
- 3:07Speaker 1: I'm telling you, all right, Well, I guess we gotta
- 3:10Speaker 1: do this, all right. Welcome, Welcome back to Soul called
- 3:16Speaker 1: Sports Analyst. I'm your host, Joshua Garcia, and this is
- 3:20Speaker 1: my other host.
- 3:21Speaker 3: Ryan Railla. Ryan, how are you doing today?
- 3:25Speaker 2: Pretty good? Like minor difficulties. You know, computer just crashed
- 3:30Speaker 2: on our boys.
- 3:32Speaker 3: Yeah, Peter just crashed on him.
- 3:34Speaker 1: But yeah, So I guess today we're going to talk
- 3:36Speaker 1: about NBA Awards. Who they are first team, roll, rookie defense,
- 3:45Speaker 1: all NBA second team, probably playoff for a little some
- 3:49Speaker 1: playoff predictions, play in predictions for sure, and who has
- 3:53Speaker 1: the most to gain from an NBA championship this season
- 3:58Speaker 1: based off the players, not the teams. So I guess
- 4:02Speaker 1: let's jump into it, all right, So where do you
- 4:05Speaker 1: want to start?
- 4:06Speaker 3: MV Awards?
- 4:08Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 4:09Speaker 3: All right, So who is your NBA MVP?
- 4:14Speaker 2: All right, so you know me SGA guy over here,
- 4:18Speaker 2: and he is the MVP. We're gonna have We're gonna
- 4:21Speaker 2: have a little bbit here because I see you got
- 4:23Speaker 2: Wimby for MVP. But okay, so SGA people are gonna
- 4:28Speaker 2: talk about Wimby, they're gonna talk about Luca. They're gonna
- 4:30Speaker 2: and the Lucas stuff pisses me off. Oh my goodness, Like, yes,
- 4:34Speaker 2: he's averaging like thirty three points like the whole season.
- 4:37Speaker 2: But then he goes everyone hates him. They hate Luca
- 4:41Speaker 2: the whole season. Then he goes on this three like
- 4:44Speaker 2: a month stretch. What was it, February March. He goes
- 4:47Speaker 2: on that stretch, and everyone's like, oh my goodness, Luca, MVP, MVP.
- 4:51Speaker 2: He's been doing He's been doing this all season like
- 4:54Speaker 2: he was. He's averaging the most points in the league.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Now everyone's just like, MVP, MVP, MVP him because of
- 5:01Speaker 2: this month stretch. But I'm sorry, the MVP isn't. If
- 5:06Speaker 2: it was a one month thing, yeah, give it to Luca,
- 5:07Speaker 2: but I'm sorry it's not. It's eighty two game season
- 5:10Speaker 2: and through a whole eighty two game season. I think
- 5:14Speaker 2: SGA has been the best player through the injuries with
- 5:17Speaker 2: his team being able to just maneuver. And I think
- 5:22Speaker 2: the statement win for me was when they played the Nuggets,
- 5:24Speaker 2: they didn't have I don't think they had JDub, i
- 5:28Speaker 2: Heeart Caruso, and that it was like three or four
- 5:34Speaker 2: players didn't have anyone. And that's just been the whole season.
- 5:37Speaker 2: He hasn't had his players, and you can say the
- 5:40Speaker 2: same for last year, and he's just consistently dominating. He
- 5:44Speaker 2: has winning record without chet, without Jadub, the second most
- 5:49Speaker 2: injured team in the league, and he's just been consistently
- 5:55Speaker 2: dominating and averaging thirty one I think six and eight,
- 6:00Speaker 2: So no, somewhere around there. I gotta look it up.
- 6:04Speaker 2: I'm not locked in right now.
- 6:05Speaker 3: But he's also he's also won four and seven, four
- 6:12Speaker 3: and six, that was close.
- 6:16Speaker 2: But he's also shooting fifty five percent from the field,
- 6:19Speaker 2: the most ever by a guard, averaging thirty plus. He's
- 6:23Speaker 2: literally this is literally like MJ of our era, if
- 6:26Speaker 2: we're being honest, and the way he's been able to
- 6:28Speaker 2: close out these games, he's genuinely insane. I think the
- 6:33Speaker 2: I saw stat his last in like his last eleven
- 6:40Speaker 2: shots that he took in fourth quarter overtime, like during
- 6:42Speaker 2: the clutch time, he hasn't missed. He's eleven for eleven
- 6:45Speaker 2: over the past however many games, and he's just the MVP.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Put the ball in his hands, you know it's gonna go.
- 6:51Speaker 2: It's gonna go in the basket. It's gonna He's been
- 6:54Speaker 2: doing what he needs to do. And he's not a
- 6:55Speaker 2: slouch on defense either. He could be and he are
- 7:00Speaker 2: gonna be. Like he's surrounded by this like all world defense.
- 7:04Speaker 2: But when you're a score of that caliber, that's how
- 7:06Speaker 2: they build the team around you. He's a score first guy.
- 7:10Speaker 2: He does what he needs to do, and he's really
- 7:12Speaker 2: become such a better playmaker throughout the season. This whole season,
- 7:17Speaker 2: he's displayed that. Also towards the end of the season,
- 7:19Speaker 2: his scoring like dropped off, like kind of it was
- 7:23Speaker 2: like he'd just get twenty points, but he'd have like
- 7:25Speaker 2: ten eleven, twelve assists, and they just take him out
- 7:29Speaker 2: the game because these are like the dog days. But yeah,
- 7:32Speaker 2: I just think that SGA being able to do this
- 7:34Speaker 2: throughout the whole season is the reason why I have
- 7:38Speaker 2: him MVP. It's not just his stint. It's not just oh,
- 7:41Speaker 2: they've been doing good like since a certain point. No,
- 7:44Speaker 2: he's been doing it all season. And I just think
- 7:47Speaker 2: that his impact on offense is so monumental to the team.
- 7:53Speaker 2: And we can talk about how Wimby his defenses, but
- 7:55Speaker 2: I just offense is more important to me at the
- 7:58Speaker 2: end of the day.
- 8:00Speaker 3: That's what's going to get right next to him. Yeah,
- 8:03Speaker 3: but but I'm not gonna argo better actually.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Like by like two Yeah, but no, but I'm gonna go.
- 8:13Speaker 1: I'm still gonna go with Shae for m v P.
- 8:15Speaker 1: I just think it's too little too late for Wimby
- 8:17Speaker 1: to really make some real moves. And then plus like
- 8:20Speaker 1: the fact that the thunder just I mean they were
- 8:22Speaker 1: bost just winning at the same time, Like it was
- 8:24Speaker 1: just kind of like hard for I think the Spurs
- 8:27Speaker 1: to even catch them in the sand.
- 8:29Speaker 3: Like I don't.
- 8:31Speaker 1: I really don't think that, Like I think I think
- 8:34Speaker 1: it's Shaye and Wimby Like I don't think there.
- 8:36Speaker 3: I think there's a tear gap between them too.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I would put Yokics, but after I wouldn't.
- 8:44Speaker 1: I wouldn't put Yokic because the fact that he's still
- 8:46Speaker 1: like nine games away from them in point and like
- 8:49Speaker 1: and win total. And then also, like you said, after
- 8:52Speaker 1: his injury, it took him a little bit to get
- 8:53Speaker 1: back going, and they dropped a couple of games they
- 8:55Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have. And I just think for more stretches
- 8:58Speaker 1: of the year, shae teams have been more dominant and
- 9:02Speaker 1: Wimby's teams have been more dominant. And and it's a
- 9:05Speaker 1: regular season award, I understand. And then people will say, oh,
- 9:09Speaker 1: jokis versus Wimby that one game. I mean, well, they
- 9:12Speaker 1: both went off. And then also that was their only
- 9:14Speaker 1: matchup they played against each other all season, And if
- 9:16Speaker 1: that's the only matchup they played againstch other all season,
- 9:18Speaker 1: then that's probably one of the best matchups you could
- 9:20Speaker 1: have possibly watched. But I just think as far as
- 9:22Speaker 1: like MVP, I'm going with Shay. I just think as
- 9:26Speaker 1: what he's been able to do all season. I haven't
- 9:28Speaker 1: changed since the last time we did the pod, to
- 9:30Speaker 1: be honest, So that's why it's still there.
- 9:31Speaker 3: The Wimby for MVP.
- 9:32Speaker 1: But yeah, his his impact, his impact is insane as
- 9:37Speaker 1: far as on the offensive end. Defensively, he just plays
- 9:40Speaker 1: his role, but he just the catalyst for everything that
- 9:43Speaker 1: they do when it comes to scoring. If he doesn't
- 9:45Speaker 1: have a really big night, I feel like they do
- 9:46Speaker 1: struggle at times. But he's uh, he's definitely just continued
- 9:52Speaker 1: greatness through another just another year in a row.
- 9:55Speaker 3: As far as Wimby, I do think he has a
- 9:59Speaker 3: case for the MVP.
- 10:00Speaker 1: It's just I think that it just came down to
- 10:03Speaker 1: record at the end of the day, and the Thunder
- 10:06Speaker 1: just never lost while the Spurs were winning. So it's
- 10:09Speaker 1: also just a tell of just two great teams in
- 10:11Speaker 1: one great and one good season.
- 10:16Speaker 4: Right, did you go already or yeah?
- 10:18Speaker 3: We've been talking for a good twenty minutes about you,
- 10:20Speaker 3: so it's not.
- 10:21Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I thought.
- 10:25Speaker 2: I thought it was it was my computer.
- 10:28Speaker 4: My computer was already ready to crash, That's what it was. No,
- 10:31Speaker 4: But so what's about you get three?
- 10:35Speaker 3: I thought it was a task, But no, it was
- 10:37Speaker 3: just But I don't think that it's gonna be unanimous
- 10:39Speaker 3: m VP like people thought it was gonna be. Like
- 10:41Speaker 3: I do think a bunch of different people.
- 10:44Speaker 4: Yeah, what's it goes up to five? It goes up
- 10:48Speaker 4: to five candidates? How would say it's Shay Wimby, Jokic
- 10:53Speaker 4: and then now Luca he's not eligible for it, so
- 10:56Speaker 4: Jalen Brown and then Cad That's what I would say
- 10:59Speaker 4: the top five.
- 10:59Speaker 3: He's not visual, Yeah he is. He's like the least
- 11:03Speaker 3: eligible out of all of them.
- 11:05Speaker 4: Oh oh he's at sixty four. No, he he was
- 11:08Speaker 4: just a game out.
- 11:08Speaker 3: It's actually Donovan Mitchell.
- 11:11Speaker 4: It would be Donovan Mitchell finishing fifth and MVP.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Or but right now and yeah, yeah it would Oh
- 11:18Speaker 1: this is I'm looking at finals MVP?
- 11:20Speaker 3: Why is mine on finals MVP?
- 11:22Speaker 4: Oh? Is it on?
- 11:24Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 11:24Speaker 2: Because they know the cats are gonna make you?
- 11:26Speaker 4: They know caves are not going to vacant bro.
- 11:30Speaker 2: We're talking about later.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I have why is mine on awards and it's
- 11:35Speaker 3: on finals MVP.
- 11:37Speaker 4: Maybe they think he's gonna make it out of They're
- 11:40Speaker 4: gonna make it out of the conference or yeah, make
- 11:43Speaker 4: it out of the conference. So yeah, no, Okay, then
- 11:46Speaker 4: I guess it would have to go that Shae Wimby, Wimby,
- 11:49Speaker 4: jo Kids, Jalen Brown, and then Donovan Mitchell unless we're
- 11:53Speaker 4: missing somebody else. I don't think anybody else, but yeah,
- 11:56Speaker 4: Shaye is the most player. I mean, Jaylen Brown. Yet
- 12:02Speaker 4: what I put Mitchell Brunson fifth, it would be between
- 12:05Speaker 4: those two. It's like splitting hairs. But one thing, I
- 12:07Speaker 4: don't know if y'all brought it up. Shaye has hit
- 12:09Speaker 4: fifty two clutch shots this year. So I mean, you
- 12:13Speaker 4: give all these other stats, average over thirty points a game,
- 12:16Speaker 4: and was carrying this team a ceiling razor as far
- 12:19Speaker 4: as how already great this OKC team is. But just
- 12:22Speaker 4: at the end of the day, this is as far
- 12:25Speaker 4: as the eighty two game season award, and he's been
- 12:29Speaker 4: the most consistent because Jokic had some struggles, Luca had
- 12:32Speaker 4: some struggles, women didn't have struggles, but he didn't have
- 12:35Speaker 4: the peak games like Shaye did consistently throughout the year.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Bro, He's say him at the end of the season.
- 12:43Speaker 3: All year, No, I womy just does what he does
- 12:48Speaker 3: and they win basketball games. You don't need to have
- 12:50Speaker 3: a great offensive not for them to win.
- 12:53Speaker 4: Exactly that case and a lot better right there. That
- 12:57Speaker 4: makes Shay's case a lot better. And again it's just
- 13:00Speaker 4: I know it's simple as best player with the best
- 13:03Speaker 4: player on the best team, but it's that's just how
- 13:06Speaker 4: it is this specific year because everything else was so close.
- 13:11Speaker 4: In my opinion. Jokic could have won it any other year,
- 13:14Speaker 4: Wimby could have won it any other year. Even Luca
- 13:16Speaker 4: could have won it any other year. But yeah, no,
- 13:17Speaker 4: I think.
- 13:20Speaker 2: That's the NBA we're live in now, Like we're desensitized
- 13:22Speaker 2: by how goold these players are. Like Jokic is the
- 13:26Speaker 2: first ever to lead the league in rebounds in as
- 13:29Speaker 2: It's insane.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Yeah no, I know, Okay, I'm just saying I'm not
- 13:33Speaker 3: seeing any like award like odds right now, Like.
- 13:36Speaker 4: It's not popping up, just up. Maybe maybe they took
- 13:40Speaker 4: him off. Maybe they took him off from earlier since
- 13:43Speaker 4: the seasons.
- 13:44Speaker 1: The FCALT, I think, oh, most Valuable Player, it's Shay Wimby, Jokic,
- 13:50Speaker 1: Don Chis, and Jalen Brown. I think that means Luca
- 13:52Speaker 1: got the approval for like the like he pleaded for
- 13:57Speaker 1: like to be eligible for the awards.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Okay, so okay, that's gonna change it then for first
- 14:02Speaker 4: Team All NBA. Then whenever we do that in a second, well, what's.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Because this is on NBC Sports, So I'm pretty sure
- 14:07Speaker 3: it would be upgated.
- 14:08Speaker 4: I mean, oh yeah, right, oh yeah, no for sure.
- 14:10Speaker 3: At eight fifteen this morning.
- 14:12Speaker 4: Oh Okay, Yeah, then okay, I guess Luca he is eligible,
- 14:15Speaker 4: but I think it's pretty clear cut. Then another clear
- 14:18Speaker 4: cut award, Defensive Player of the Year.
- 14:21Speaker 3: Literally, he's gonna be defensive player. He's gonna be the
- 14:26Speaker 3: first United defensive Player of the Year.
- 14:29Speaker 2: And to think, Bro, this is barely Wimby and should
- 14:32Speaker 2: have the same amount of the deep boyster.
- 14:40Speaker 4: Wimby's first defensive player of the year. After who's the
- 14:43Speaker 4: first year Jared Jackson? Then Evan Mobley, Yeah, Jared Jackson
- 14:50Speaker 4: was before. Okay, it'll go better than Evan mob Finally
- 14:53Speaker 4: he gets.
- 14:54Speaker 2: How many how many did he average that season? How
- 14:56Speaker 2: many rebounds?
- 14:56Speaker 3: Can you all look that?
- 14:57Speaker 2: It for me? I think I'm gonna guess, let me guess.
- 15:00Speaker 2: I want you who the year he won? The year
- 15:04Speaker 2: Jared Jackson won? How many regards a guest like like
- 15:08Speaker 2: six seven, five point let's see five point eight?
- 15:15Speaker 4: Yes he had, he actually had six point seven rebounds
- 15:19Speaker 4: per game.
- 15:19Speaker 3: No way, Bro, I'm a genius. I'm a genius.
- 15:24Speaker 1: No, but Wimby his first year was definitely based off
- 15:28Speaker 1: team record while he lost, and then last year yeah,
- 15:32Speaker 1: and then last year was based off just him getting injured.
- 15:35Speaker 1: But still let the league in blocks by like one hundred,
- 15:38Speaker 1: like seventy something.
- 15:40Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy too. I was listening to this
- 15:42Speaker 2: podcast and like, also the on Off numbers with him,
- 15:48Speaker 2: like they're not even like as good as they can
- 15:50Speaker 2: be because Luke Cornett comes in after him and he's
- 15:54Speaker 2: such a good defensive like Sinner, so it like boosts
- 15:57Speaker 2: their numbers. So it's actually he's actually better than what
- 16:01Speaker 2: the on Off shows.
- 16:03Speaker 1: You know, Like the thing is with U that the
- 16:06Speaker 1: dud Luke Cortnett has been so amazing after being in
- 16:08Speaker 1: like oh years, was that Collins coming off the bench and.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Like, but he was too Who is that Collins?
- 16:19Speaker 4: No?
- 16:21Speaker 3: I know he was talking about I'm talking about on
- 16:24Speaker 3: the Spurs, Like, oh, I think you're talking about I
- 16:27Speaker 3: was like Charles Charles Bassi coming off the bench due
- 16:31Speaker 3: So he wasn't bad. I think after towards J C.
- 16:34Speaker 3: L he just wasn't the same.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Well like I think, uh uh no, Luke Cornett is
- 16:41Speaker 1: so still such a good defender, but Wimmy's just so
- 16:44Speaker 1: much better that it just looks like drastically Yeah, I agree,
- 16:49Speaker 1: but it's no, but he is probably gonna be the
- 16:52Speaker 1: first unanimous in Defensive Player of the Year.
- 16:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he should.
- 16:58Speaker 4: I mean, he should win it the next not even
- 17:01Speaker 4: exaggerating five eight years if he stays healthy like he
- 17:03Speaker 4: sitting on three. He who has the most offensive player
- 17:09Speaker 4: of the years. Probably Wallace?
- 17:13Speaker 3: No or HACKEM you think no, Bill Russell? What are
- 17:20Speaker 3: we even talking about.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Wallace?
- 17:24Speaker 4: I said both, Yeah, just well Bill Russell. Probably the
- 17:27Speaker 4: award wasn't created.
- 17:28Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah that's true. Yeah, two o three, oh five,
- 17:34Speaker 3: oh six. So we just got all the guys, right,
- 17:37Speaker 3: we just yeah, yeah, pretty much.
- 17:39Speaker 2: That's why we're so called sports handlists.
- 17:41Speaker 3: We just know.
- 17:43Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like these two first awards, they
- 17:45Speaker 4: were pretty They're pretty clear cut. I don't know how
- 17:48Speaker 4: y'all feel about this next award right here, but I
- 17:51Speaker 4: want to hear the NBA Coach of the Year. I
- 17:53Speaker 4: feel like there's only three real candidates here.
- 17:55Speaker 3: I think there's only two real candidates.
- 17:57Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie I had I had Mitch, but
- 18:03Speaker 2: I think I'm at to it's between Mitch and Joe
- 18:05Speaker 2: Miszoula for me. For me, also, yeah, because what Mitch
- 18:09Speaker 2: has done with the team, like being able to Jordan
- 18:13Speaker 2: ought to be that's a good one show. But what
- 18:18Speaker 2: Mitch Johnson has been able to do with this team. Yeah,
- 18:20Speaker 2: they can point at Wimby like how they did with
- 18:22Speaker 2: Michael Malone and all these great coaches and players. It's
- 18:25Speaker 2: kind of stupid to me, honestly, Like the coach has
- 18:28Speaker 2: to come up with the game plan and has playing
- 18:30Speaker 2: around that player. So I think what Mitch has been
- 18:32Speaker 2: able to turn around this team sixty two wins, that
- 18:35Speaker 2: is such a huge leap. Like I knew they'd be
- 18:38Speaker 2: pretty good, but not this good. So I think he's
- 18:40Speaker 2: one of the top candidates. And also Joe Missoula, what
- 18:44Speaker 2: he did like running out like Baylor Shireman and the
- 18:48Speaker 2: Mace Cada bro like last season, I don't even think
- 18:51Speaker 2: he was. He was like a tenth man. I don't know,
- 18:55Speaker 2: he just was. He was probably playing in Mickey March
- 18:58Speaker 2: like going crazy. But I just I don't think like
- 19:02Speaker 2: the Celtics do withoutout Joe Missoula. And I think that's
- 19:05Speaker 2: why that's another reason why I'm not for the Jalen
- 19:10Speaker 2: Brown MVP. You've talked about it too fun though, where
- 19:14Speaker 2: Joe Missoula is just such a good coach. He literally
- 19:16Speaker 2: played three fourths of the season without his best play.
- 19:19Speaker 2: More than that, yeah, without his best player. So I
- 19:23Speaker 2: just think I don't know, it's tough for me, but
- 19:26Speaker 2: I think I'm had to go Joe Misula just because
- 19:28Speaker 2: of like who he was running out, what he was
- 19:30Speaker 2: doing with the team around him and the players he had.
- 19:35Speaker 2: I just think it's I don't know, it's just some
- 19:38Speaker 2: we didn't even expect. We thought they're gonna be a
- 19:40Speaker 2: lottery team and look at them now.
- 19:45Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm still gotta to go with Joe
- 19:46Speaker 3: Mossula as Coach of the Year. I think he would
- 19:49Speaker 3: be my coach.
- 19:49Speaker 1: I'm coming with on picking against Mince Johnson, But I
- 19:51Speaker 1: think I just respect Joe Mossoula's year and he's Catholic.
- 19:54Speaker 3: You know, got to go with the Catholic brether.
- 19:56Speaker 2: But did y'all hear him say that? Wards stupid? I
- 19:59Speaker 2: don't even know whether they may the Coach of the
- 20:00Speaker 2: Year award. That's stupid, Like they should ban it. Yeah,
- 20:06Speaker 2: gonna be stupid award.
- 20:07Speaker 1: He's gonna be the first person to get mad at
- 20:09Speaker 1: winning an award.
- 20:13Speaker 2: He's gonna be pissed. He's gonna take it up and
- 20:17Speaker 2: have a mad face like Chill for one.
- 20:20Speaker 1: I just think what he's been able to do, like
- 20:22Speaker 1: as far as, like like Ryan said, implementing new players
- 20:25Speaker 1: in to the offense, making schemes. Some of the trades
- 20:28Speaker 1: that they made were a little if he like the
- 20:29Speaker 1: Anferne Simon's trade definitely didn't work out. I mean they
- 20:32Speaker 1: made another trade for Vouch and then even like Vouch
- 20:36Speaker 1: getting hurt as well, like Uch didn't even play much games,
- 20:39Speaker 1: Luca Garza, Hugo Gonzalez, Bayley Shireman all just Sam Harold,
- 20:46Speaker 1: just the guy that they had out there, like they
- 20:48Speaker 1: were really playing a really great team ball and going
- 20:51Speaker 1: against and being led by a guy that's been a
- 20:54Speaker 1: number two pretty much his entire career, you know, and
- 20:56Speaker 1: then if we look at that, I just think what
- 20:59Speaker 1: he has been able to do is very impressive. And
- 21:02Speaker 1: I didn't have the Celtics out of it, but I
- 21:04Speaker 1: think I had them around like that sixth seed, six
- 21:07Speaker 1: or five seed, and but I just think what they've
- 21:09Speaker 1: been able to do staying competitive against all top teams
- 21:12Speaker 1: no matter what with what they have, and also to
- 21:15Speaker 1: think that they don't really have a true big that
- 21:18Speaker 1: like can dominate the boards or like play great defense,
- 21:21Speaker 1: and they've still been able to play good defense at basketball,
- 21:24Speaker 1: And I think that that goes to tell a lot
- 21:27Speaker 1: of scheming For me. Mitt Johnson would obviously be second.
- 21:30Speaker 1: I just think, I mean, twenty three wins to sixty two.
- 21:33Speaker 3: I mean, like, what do you want?
- 21:34Speaker 1: Like, I don't care JB. Bickers staff, they were, they
- 21:37Speaker 1: were in the playoffs last year. Jordan not a were
- 21:40Speaker 1: gonna glorify a play in team and give him Coach
- 21:42Speaker 1: of the year, Like come on, like, you know, they
- 21:44Speaker 1: might not even make the playoffs and he's gonna get
- 21:46Speaker 1: Coach of the Year.
- 21:47Speaker 3: I don't I don't agree with that. So I just
- 21:49Speaker 3: think miss Johnson has been able to do and people
- 21:51Speaker 3: are saying, Wimby, Okay, so we're just suddenly the least
- 21:55Speaker 3: inexperience experienced team. That is the biggest argument.
- 21:59Speaker 1: And now he takes the least experienced team to the
- 22:01Speaker 1: playoffs and the number two seeds best second best record
- 22:03Speaker 1: in the NBA, and.
- 22:04Speaker 3: Now, oh he has all these great players. Well like argument.
- 22:10Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so I don't know, I hate like the
- 22:14Speaker 2: star player and coach argument.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he has the star players like they've all
- 22:18Speaker 1: been together for a while, like, okay, but y'all for
- 22:21Speaker 1: the when y'all argue for the playoffs or the least
- 22:23Speaker 1: experienced team and there might be a second round exit,
- 22:26Speaker 1: Like what what's this?
- 22:28Speaker 3: What's this narrative being pushed?
- 22:29Speaker 1: So I just think what he's been able to do
- 22:31Speaker 1: and just watching the games, like you just know from
- 22:33Speaker 1: a schematic standpoint, what he's been able to set Wemby
- 22:36Speaker 1: up offensively, especially when it gets a little physical.
- 22:39Speaker 3: How he's been able to deploy.
- 22:40Speaker 1: Certain players like Dylan Harper, like Keldon Johnson, moving Harrison
- 22:44Speaker 1: Barnes up and down the rotation, having Devin Vastell play
- 22:48Speaker 1: key minutes and key offensive possessions, and really getting his shots,
- 22:52Speaker 1: giving the green light to a guy like Julian and
- 22:54Speaker 1: Champagne to shoot from three like these things had to happen,
- 22:57Speaker 1: and then honestly taking the ball out of Daron fucked
- 23:01Speaker 1: his hands and putting it in Stephan Castle's like I mean,
- 23:05Speaker 1: just look at what that's been able to do for
- 23:06Speaker 1: this basketball team, and then what his what his defensive
- 23:09Speaker 1: lineups look at. When you have Luke Cornett and Winby
- 23:12Speaker 1: both on the court, when Stephan Castle Carter, when Carter
- 23:14Speaker 1: Bryant plays the five and key situations when Stephan Castle
- 23:18Speaker 1: and Victor Wimbinalmar playing and the players around them, like
- 23:21Speaker 1: he just knows how to put lineups together, and I
- 23:23Speaker 1: think that's just key to winning a Coach of the
- 23:25Speaker 1: Year award.
- 23:26Speaker 3: I still picked Joe Missoula, but mis Johnson for a
- 23:29Speaker 3: second for.
- 23:29Speaker 4: Me, yeah, well, just to pretty much repeat the same
- 23:34Speaker 4: things y'all are saying, I think Joe Miszoula. At first
- 23:37Speaker 4: I thought it was Mark Dagnall being the coach or
- 23:40Speaker 4: being the best coach in the league over the past
- 23:42Speaker 4: several years. But now more than RecA, I would say,
- 23:45Speaker 4: go ahead.
- 23:46Speaker 3: Real quick question. Is Coach of the Year like a
- 23:47Speaker 3: most Improved Coach award? Like it like think war is?
- 23:53Speaker 4: I think that's what it is, because it's it's never
- 23:56Speaker 4: been who's the best coach?
- 23:58Speaker 3: Like obviously, if Mark d and they were to break
- 24:00Speaker 3: the but like that year before, I thought he did
- 24:03Speaker 3: win it. Oh no, the year before. Huh yeah, you know,
- 24:05Speaker 3: it's crazy.
- 24:06Speaker 1: I picked him that year too, which was the crazy part,
- 24:09Speaker 1: Like no one was good, like no one was even
- 24:11Speaker 1: thinking of him. But no, like if he were to
- 24:14Speaker 1: win like this, if they were to break the record
- 24:16Speaker 1: like they were like projected to at the beginning of
- 24:18Speaker 1: the season. I think he would win like Coach of
- 24:21Speaker 1: the Year, but like right now, it makes it like
- 24:23Speaker 1: a different I think it's like goes to like, Okay,
- 24:24Speaker 1: who's the most improved coach or like who did the.
- 24:27Speaker 4: Hardest, like the biggest Yeah, the hardest job, or like
- 24:30Speaker 4: the biggest jump because what last year was it was
- 24:32Speaker 4: it JB last year? Yeah it was Yeah, it was
- 24:37Speaker 4: ny it was And again that's a big jump right
- 24:43Speaker 4: there that they had. They were there was the second
- 24:46Speaker 4: second or four.
- 24:47Speaker 2: They also had like the best they were a couple
- 24:50Speaker 2: of games behind O cause they had a really good season.
- 24:52Speaker 4: Yeah it was wins. Yeah, And I think, okay, I'm
- 24:56Speaker 4: not even trying to like add on to the Spurs glades,
- 24:59Speaker 4: but I think m v P, d P, O Y
- 25:02Speaker 4: and Coach of the Year. I think next year we
- 25:05Speaker 4: might just see a clean sweep of all of these,
- 25:07Speaker 4: from Wimby Winby to Mitch Johnson. I think if I
- 25:10Speaker 4: had to put in a poll for next year and
- 25:12Speaker 4: who's gonna who's gonna.
- 25:14Speaker 3: Win Coach the Year, I'm just saying, you know what,
- 25:18Speaker 3: you know what, dude, that.
- 25:20Speaker 4: That Kenny Beacham challenge. Where can you win all awards
- 25:23Speaker 4: in one season? That's what the Spurs they're trying.
- 25:25Speaker 3: No, but.
- 25:27Speaker 4: No, but I just want to say Jordan ought the
- 25:30Speaker 4: year that he had on the Suns where nobody expecting
- 25:33Speaker 4: them to do anything after trading away kd get in
- 25:35Speaker 4: Jayalen Green, get on Dylan Brooks. I'm not saying, yeah,
- 25:40Speaker 4: I thought they were gonna be bad, but like you
- 25:42Speaker 4: could tell, this team is really disciplined and they win
- 25:44Speaker 4: in the margins. They're one of the best defensive teams
- 25:48Speaker 4: in the in the league. I know we're gonna talk
- 25:50Speaker 4: about playing in a second so but yeah, he has
- 25:53Speaker 4: some real discipline and if they get some talent next year,
- 25:56Speaker 4: then maybe they he could be in the coach. I
- 26:02Speaker 4: know he's from Duke. Yeah he's from Duke. No, but okay,
- 26:07Speaker 4: six Man of the Year this one, we might have
- 26:10Speaker 4: some differences, but yeah, he's of the year.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Obviously it is Keldon Johnson. Like no one's close I
- 26:19Speaker 1: think consistently. Especially No, I'm being so dead about I
- 26:24Speaker 1: didn't even pick Winby to Johnson or Wimby to win
- 26:28Speaker 1: the awards. But as far as Kelden Johnson, like it
- 26:36Speaker 1: always goes to the best six man on the on
- 26:39Speaker 1: a top team. That's always the rule with when it
- 26:42Speaker 1: comes to six men of the year. And what he's
- 26:44Speaker 1: been able to do, accepting a role coming off the bench,
- 26:47Speaker 1: who used to be a twenty point per game scorer
- 26:50Speaker 1: and still averaging around fourteen points per game, good efficiency
- 26:53Speaker 1: from all over the basketball court on the offensive end,
- 26:56Speaker 1: also dominating.
- 26:58Speaker 3: The offensive boards all season.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Keldon Johnson's second chance opportunities for the San Antonio Spurs
- 27:03Speaker 1: has created so much. And then plusses being a good defender,
- 27:07Speaker 1: like he's not a great defender, but he's a good defender,
- 27:09Speaker 1: and just playing his role, accepting your role on a
- 27:12Speaker 1: great team and still putting up like great nights off
- 27:17Speaker 1: the bench and really keeping the team aflow. And I
- 27:19Speaker 1: think that's where the Spurs have created a lot of
- 27:21Speaker 1: separation from a lot of teams, is the second unit
- 27:23Speaker 1: still being able to do things. I mean, it just
- 27:25Speaker 1: broke the NBA record, at least the Spurs record of
- 27:29Speaker 1: most players in double digits in the season eight with
- 27:31Speaker 1: eight players.
- 27:34Speaker 3: Was that the NBA record or just a Spurs record?
- 27:36Speaker 4: The NBA record? Yeah?
- 27:37Speaker 1: Oh wow, I thought it was just a Spurs record.
- 27:39Speaker 1: But as far as Kelden Johnson, that I mean, I
- 27:44Speaker 1: get Nas. I think for me Nas would be two.
- 27:47Speaker 1: I just think what he's been able to do.
- 27:49Speaker 3: And then Hyman is.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Also there too, But I don't think Reached Shepherds should
- 27:53Speaker 1: be anywhere near the sixth man of the year. For
- 27:55Speaker 1: me personally, I think he like cost them more games
- 27:57Speaker 1: than he did help them win games. But as far
- 28:00Speaker 1: as Keldon Johnson, I just think consistently and I in
- 28:03Speaker 1: a night out, he's been nothing but a positive for
- 28:05Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs.
- 28:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree.
- 28:08Speaker 2: I wish it was Aj.
- 28:09Speaker 1: Mitchell, but he didn't play enough, but that's also injury
- 28:12Speaker 1: like an injury standpoint.
- 28:14Speaker 2: Yeah, So I also think that what you're saying killed
- 28:16Speaker 2: in especially against a thunder, he was able to like
- 28:20Speaker 2: a baby chat and just bully him sadly he like,
- 28:24Speaker 2: but he's literally he was boxing. It's not just against chests,
- 28:27Speaker 2: literally against everyone in the league.
- 28:28Speaker 1: Literally turnaround floater that he's been doing to people all season. Bro,
- 28:32Speaker 1: It's been like every time he gets to the spot,
- 28:34Speaker 1: I'm just like, no one's gonna stop, like literally no one,
- 28:37Speaker 1: like no one's gonna stop and when he gets to
- 28:39Speaker 1: his spot and down low, like it's weird.
- 28:41Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been such a big jump for him just
- 28:44Speaker 2: being able to. And I thought this is what like
- 28:48Speaker 2: I'd never like really been like on the Spurs as much,
- 28:52Speaker 2: but I thought this was like what's so Hand could
- 28:55Speaker 2: be maybe like more of the sixth man than Kildon,
- 28:58Speaker 2: you know. So it's it's a big jump for Keilden
- 29:01Speaker 2: just being able because I had always seen it like
- 29:03Speaker 2: so Hand and Killden like not Keldon and so Hand
- 29:07Speaker 2: if that makes sense. But yeah, just such a big
- 29:11Speaker 2: jump for Kilden coming off the bench, just being able
- 29:14Speaker 2: to just being able to do what he needs to
- 29:18Speaker 2: do for the second unit, keeping them afloat. Like you said,
- 29:22Speaker 2: offensive rebound won the best in the league. He's like
- 29:24Speaker 2: a Josh Hart type. It's how I see it kind
- 29:29Speaker 2: of in a way. He's they're both really good offensive rebounders.
- 29:33Speaker 2: Josh Hart might be a better defender. Maybe I'm not
- 29:37Speaker 2: mad at that.
- 29:38Speaker 3: I'm not mad at it, like like Josh Hart's a starter, ye,
- 29:44Speaker 3: but I'm not saying like I'm just saying like no,
- 29:46Speaker 3: like he like, yeah, so Josh Hart's rebounding though I
- 29:51Speaker 3: don't know as far like Josh Hart when he has
- 29:54Speaker 3: them rebounding Knights, that boy, the rebounded for Mons rebound
- 30:00Speaker 3: p R a monster.
- 30:01Speaker 2: When I was.
- 30:05Speaker 3: Same b him and Scott it used to be locks.
- 30:09Speaker 2: Yeah we're done with that life.
- 30:12Speaker 4: We need to start. Oh never mind, Yeah we're done.
- 30:15Speaker 3: Yeah, still down.
- 30:17Speaker 2: I just still has Really you don't get me.
- 30:21Speaker 3: I ain't never gone I know, I ain't never gone
- 30:23Speaker 3: back up.
- 30:27Speaker 2: But Kel didn't. Just being able to do what like,
- 30:30Speaker 2: he's such a big part of this Spurs team. And
- 30:33Speaker 2: this also plays part in like Mitch Johnson being able
- 30:36Speaker 2: to deploy him and allow him to get this new
- 30:40Speaker 2: role with this team. For second, for me would have
- 30:43Speaker 2: to be Hyman Hawks after that like horrible, like second
- 30:46Speaker 2: year bro, it's like down in the dumbs, bro. But
- 30:51Speaker 2: I think just being able to come off the bench.
- 30:53Speaker 2: And I don't know, the Heat were like a really
- 30:56Speaker 2: fun team. They didn't really turn out good. They have
- 31:00Speaker 2: no direction, It's weird to me, but Hymen was one
- 31:03Speaker 2: of the bright spots on the team, just being able
- 31:05Speaker 2: to do everything all around, and I think, yeah, it
- 31:08Speaker 2: was a great year for him. For third, I'd have
- 31:11Speaker 2: to yeah, i'd have to put Nas.
- 31:14Speaker 3: But I just don't know if I can give an
- 31:15Speaker 3: award to someone who might not even make the playoffs. No, yeah,
- 31:19Speaker 3: you know you can't.
- 31:19Speaker 4: Really. Yeah, I guess that's just the biggest thing, you know.
- 31:23Speaker 4: You know what's crazy. I still think that Nas nas
- 31:26Speaker 4: he's the odds favorite. Well, I told Josh this morning,
- 31:28Speaker 4: we're talking about I saw the odds on fandel on
- 31:33Speaker 4: fand unless unless it updated.
- 31:37Speaker 2: But this man, it's kilden at minus.
- 31:40Speaker 4: It's all separate. It's separate. That's because I remember on
- 31:44Speaker 4: the phone this morning I told Josh, I was like, yeah, Nas,
- 31:47Speaker 4: he's it was like a slight favorite. It was like
- 31:49Speaker 4: a one tend to like one thirty.
- 31:51Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind it, Nazy nas Reed.
- 31:55Speaker 4: I feel like every every time in the sixth Man
- 31:58Speaker 4: of the Year, shouldn't like, you guys be tired of Nas.
- 32:01Speaker 4: I get he's a great six man, but yes, I
- 32:03Speaker 4: still think he might end up winning the award. But no,
- 32:06Speaker 4: kel up there for me.
- 32:07Speaker 2: But I'm just not putting him up there.
- 32:10Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and again Hyman Hawkins, I think he it
- 32:14Speaker 4: was something of like sixteen points, like five rebounds, five assists,
- 32:17Speaker 4: something like that and it was just a real pace
- 32:20Speaker 4: in space for the Heat. They were just as far
- 32:23Speaker 4: as getting down the floor real quick. Hyman Hawkins.
- 32:25Speaker 2: He fit that Peron's team in the league.
- 32:27Speaker 4: I saw something like their point differential in the first
- 32:30Speaker 4: quarter is like plus thirteen, but like second, third, fourth quarter,
- 32:35Speaker 4: they're like in the negatives, just like how they start
- 32:38Speaker 4: off like from the Rik.
- 32:39Speaker 2: You know what's so disappointing to me about the Heat
- 32:41Speaker 2: it's khalil Ware Bro Like, Bro, he literally has no
- 32:45Speaker 2: like if you watch the games, Bro, I was watching
- 32:47Speaker 2: who are they playing the other day? They're playing the Celtics.
- 32:49Speaker 2: He literally does not care, Like he literally does not care,
- 32:53Speaker 2: Like he would just be out there and he's just jogging.
- 32:56Speaker 2: He won't get back on defense, he won't like he'll
- 32:59Speaker 2: go for board, he and grab he just like, I
- 33:01Speaker 2: don't know, it's so odd to watch, like genuinely like
- 33:05Speaker 2: and he was I really liked him as a rookie,
- 33:08Speaker 2: like he was Ryan.
- 33:12Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like I told you.
- 33:13Speaker 2: I was like, I remember one time I went out
- 33:15Speaker 2: to eat with my girlfriend. I was like, what I say,
- 33:20Speaker 2: I was betting And I was like, guys, y'all put
- 33:22Speaker 2: money on Khalil Whar like p r A or something
- 33:25Speaker 2: like that, because he was going crazy and then I
- 33:27Speaker 2: started liking it.
- 33:29Speaker 3: But I don't know mand On draftings too.
- 33:36Speaker 2: That's what I looked at earlier, and they're all gone.
- 33:40Speaker 4: I mean that makes sense.
- 33:41Speaker 2: I mean games right now.
- 33:43Speaker 4: Yeah, betting is getting ready to get done, so so yeah,
- 33:46Speaker 4: that that makes sense.
- 33:47Speaker 2: Because yeah, everyone would be like minus and then every
- 33:50Speaker 2: will just a lot of money.
- 33:53Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I'm surprised they're still showing MVP odds. But
- 33:55Speaker 4: all right, I think this one is pretty clear cut
- 33:59Speaker 4: right here, NBA Most Improved Player of the Year. I
- 34:04Speaker 4: think this is consistent right here.
- 34:07Speaker 3: I don't think I think I think I'm going to
- 34:10Speaker 3: Jay Alexander Walker. Me too.
- 34:12Speaker 2: I don't think it was I don't think I had
- 34:14Speaker 2: him at Like the last time I talked with you
- 34:16Speaker 2: about this, I'm trying to think who I had. I
- 34:19Speaker 2: don't even know if we did most.
- 34:20Speaker 4: Improved Jalen Duran, maybe Denny Jink I.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Had, like Denny.
- 34:27Speaker 2: You talked about Jalen Johnson too, Josh and Denny.
- 34:31Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think we'll go My pick is Nikole
- 34:33Speaker 3: Alexander Walker.
- 34:34Speaker 1: I just think I just think if we look at Denny,
- 34:36Speaker 1: and we look at Jayleen Johnson, we look at Jayalen Durant.
- 34:38Speaker 1: I know, Jaalen Durant is still very young, and he
- 34:41Speaker 1: wasn't like a top top draft pick like you know,
- 34:43Speaker 1: but I just think as far as nas like his
- 34:46Speaker 1: whole career, just constantly being like a good role player,
- 34:49Speaker 1: a good defensive role player, averaging what like six points
- 34:53Speaker 1: per game something like that, jumping all the way up
- 34:55Speaker 1: to what was it eighteen points per game, sixteen something
- 34:59Speaker 1: like that, like, and what he's been able to do,
- 35:01Speaker 1: like as far as like well he's defensively, rebounding, creating
- 35:06Speaker 1: for his team, being the guy that they go to
- 35:08Speaker 1: in the clutch moments to handle the basketball and get
- 35:11Speaker 1: a bucket. I just think he we never saw that
- 35:13Speaker 1: from him throughout his career. As far as Jalen Johnson,
- 35:16Speaker 1: we knew Jalen Johnson could do these things, he just
- 35:18Speaker 1: needed to be healthy. Denny had Vijia. We knew Denny
- 35:21Speaker 1: could do these things, he just needed to get the
- 35:22Speaker 1: opportunities to do it. And I just think as far
- 35:25Speaker 1: as Jalen Duran, he just was there their second main
- 35:30Speaker 1: guy last year as well, you know, so It's kind
- 35:32Speaker 1: of like one of those things where I think Nika
- 35:35Speaker 1: Alexander Walker just against all odds, just proved that he's
- 35:39Speaker 1: a great player in this in this league.
- 35:41Speaker 3: So I think he's the most improved player.
- 35:43Speaker 2: For me, I'm gonna have to go with Noah as
- 35:45Speaker 2: well as a shady fan. Bro.
- 35:48Speaker 3: This is cousin.
- 35:48Speaker 2: This is so tough to watch.
- 35:50Speaker 3: Bro like his cousin.
- 35:52Speaker 2: And then what's he called? Well, uh, I didn't hear
- 35:56Speaker 2: the pod, but I saw clips of it. It's a
- 35:58Speaker 2: cam cam Johnson the old man into three or the
- 36:02Speaker 2: young man in the three, And he was just talking
- 36:06Speaker 2: about how like he he was in this space where
- 36:11Speaker 2: he just wanted more, like he wanted it so bad
- 36:14Speaker 2: and then like he ended up betting on himself and
- 36:21Speaker 2: he ended up betting on himself and going leaving the
- 36:26Speaker 2: Timberwolves a contender for for the Hawks to go get
- 36:30Speaker 2: the money. He believed in himself. And I think this
- 36:34Speaker 2: jump is just so insane. And I think right now
- 36:37Speaker 2: he is the best player on the Hawks. They like
- 36:39Speaker 2: he there when they need shots, they give it to him.
- 36:43Speaker 2: They don't give it to Jalen Johnson.
- 36:45Speaker 3: Daniels has gotten pretty good, and.
- 36:50Speaker 4: I don't think you could have said Jalen Johnson.
- 36:53Speaker 3: I think I think Jalen Johnson is the best player.
- 36:56Speaker 3: But I don't know. I don't think. I think Dyson
- 36:58Speaker 3: Downels are pretty good. Bro.
- 37:00Speaker 2: I think he's a good defender.
- 37:02Speaker 3: No, he's a good player too. He was doing pretty good.
- 37:05Speaker 2: He hit a three.
- 37:07Speaker 4: I think he's a rebound.
- 37:08Speaker 3: One bad year, he had one bad.
- 37:10Speaker 2: Year, one historically bad year. This isn't just a bad year.
- 37:15Speaker 3: And one bad year and we're already out on the guy,
- 37:19Speaker 3: my dynasty guy. He was the biggest Dison Daniels hater.
- 37:26Speaker 3: He hates Daniels.
- 37:28Speaker 2: I like him as a defender, but like, let me,
- 37:30Speaker 2: I'm looking at basketball's Dyson Daniel post eighteen percent from three.
- 37:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you get some rebounds he has. Hey,
- 37:40Speaker 4: I was just like, rebounds the game.
- 37:43Speaker 3: Get out the slump somehow. I gotta get out of
- 37:45Speaker 3: the slump somehow.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Seven rebounds, six points to be playing.
- 37:50Speaker 1: Playing tournament, like you know, he's about to be playing
- 37:52Speaker 1: in the in the summer league. Just to get out
- 37:54Speaker 1: the slump too, Bro, Just trust.
- 37:57Speaker 3: Problemly, but.
- 38:00Speaker 2: Averaging twenty three and uh four, it's just such a
- 38:06Speaker 2: big leap for him and also on shooting splits of
- 38:08Speaker 2: forty nine. So I think that's just such a huge
- 38:13Speaker 2: leap for him, and he does deserve the Most Improved
- 38:16Speaker 2: if it goes anyone else rigged because I think no
- 38:20Speaker 2: one expected this from him, like this elite, like Josh said,
- 38:24Speaker 2: He's always been a good player, but not like no
- 38:28Speaker 2: one expected this much.
- 38:29Speaker 4: And I think after the All Star break that's when
- 38:32Speaker 4: he started really going crazy. I could remember two vivid
- 38:35Speaker 4: games of him. I think it was the Knicks and
- 38:37Speaker 4: then the Magic against two of similar similar opponents were
- 38:41Speaker 4: I think he dropped like over thirty and he was
- 38:44Speaker 4: the number one option for the entire time it was
- 38:46Speaker 4: on Magic.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Might was Magic City Money.
- 38:55Speaker 4: Yeah, no, but I just think that, Okay, my vote
- 38:59Speaker 4: is to kill Alex under walk or two. But just
- 39:01Speaker 4: based on how this award usually goes, I think it
- 39:04Speaker 4: might go Jalen Johnson or Jalen Duran because it usually
- 39:08Speaker 4: goes to like ascending Star and then he takes another level.
- 39:11Speaker 4: So knowing how this is gonna go talking.
- 39:13Speaker 2: About that for a little while, like why, like jj
- 39:16Speaker 2: Reddick has spoke up on that, like Most Improved is
- 39:20Speaker 2: literally just the lottery pick, Like yeah, just improved.
- 39:24Speaker 4: Has a breakout year. Yeah.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know if that's what the who
- 39:28Speaker 2: won it last year?
- 39:29Speaker 4: It was kde Cade won it last year, Like, yeah.
- 39:37Speaker 1: I forgot, I forgot who we picked last year. We're like,
- 39:39Speaker 1: there's no way Kate should win the award.
- 39:44Speaker 4: Was it was it te No, it wasn't Tyre it
- 39:47Speaker 4: was no, it was Kobe White. Wait wait no, that
- 39:51Speaker 4: was a year before when Tyree's because Tyree's and Kobe White.
- 39:54Speaker 4: I remember I had all this.
- 39:56Speaker 1: There was John Morant at one point and we were
- 39:59Speaker 1: arguing about it or like John Moran should not win
- 40:01Speaker 1: Most Improved Player?
- 40:02Speaker 2: Yeah, or this has always been a topic of discussion though,
- 40:05Speaker 2: like where a lottery pick literally wins Most Improved Like, bro,
- 40:10Speaker 2: you're a lottery pick, You're supposed to do that. Yeah.
- 40:14Speaker 4: I mean maybe Jalen Duran he has a chance because
- 40:16Speaker 4: since Kate was out, I think they went like nine
- 40:18Speaker 4: to two or eight and three down the.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Trailing during like even without kid, dude, he has been
- 40:24Speaker 2: so Yeah, he's like that dude is so physical and
- 40:29Speaker 2: I feel like he's gonna give teams problems in the
- 40:33Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Yea, although Wimby did like do what
- 40:38Speaker 2: he did to him. I think he did give Weinby
- 40:40Speaker 2: some problems at the beginning of that game.
- 40:44Speaker 1: It was the other Yes he did, Yes he did
- 40:46Speaker 1: not that game, not that game. Winby got having foul
- 40:48Speaker 1: trouble in like two minutes.
- 40:49Speaker 3: He had three.
- 40:52Speaker 2: One before that.
- 40:53Speaker 1: The Winby still dropped twenty four on his head.
- 40:56Speaker 2: Show did you not hear what I said At the
- 40:59Speaker 2: beginning he was literally struggling this dude like he was physical.
- 41:04Speaker 3: And then and then Wimby went back to the went
- 41:06Speaker 3: back to the drawing boards.
- 41:08Speaker 1: This guy, I just guy came, Oh my gosh, this guy,
- 41:14Speaker 1: this guy can handle me.
- 41:17Speaker 3: Bros.
- 41:17Speaker 1: Always trying to underplay Bro, always trying to throw, always
- 41:21Speaker 1: trying to throw shade.
- 41:22Speaker 2: Can this dude this dude got muted or something because
- 41:25Speaker 2: I just said I just said that.
- 41:27Speaker 3: This guy's always trying to throw shade.
- 41:29Speaker 4: Bro Bro hates Wimby, Dyson Daniels, and Jason Tatum added
- 41:33Speaker 4: to the list.
- 41:34Speaker 3: Bro, I never hated a player like you hate players.
- 41:37Speaker 2: That's birds. I don't hate wimbyation.
- 41:44Speaker 1: Organization, organoational, the most, the most peaceful organization he could hate.
- 41:49Speaker 2: Just Bro. They ruined my childhood. Yea supposed to win
- 41:53Speaker 2: them all for real. Bro Young was pressed. I hated him.
- 41:58Speaker 4: Man, all right, last one NBA Clutch Player of the Year.
- 42:03Speaker 2: It don't matter.
- 42:06Speaker 1: This is literally He was like, I don't I don't
- 42:10Speaker 1: even pay attention to clutch Player of the Year.
- 42:11Speaker 3: I'll can pick whatever the hell y'all want a couple
- 42:15Speaker 3: of years ago.
- 42:16Speaker 2: That makes you feel better.
- 42:17Speaker 4: I know he wants one, but demon home, Okay, I think, okay, yeah,
- 42:26Speaker 4: that's all the awards right there. So we're gonna do
- 42:28Speaker 4: one All NBA team, one defensive team, and one rookie team.
- 42:32Speaker 4: So for the first team, it's pretty simple. Shay Wimby Jokic.
- 42:40Speaker 3: And so Luca is eligible for an All NBA team,
- 42:43Speaker 3: I'm guessing I don't know.
- 42:45Speaker 4: Let me see Luca and Kate, but I don't know
- 42:48Speaker 4: if Kate iss No, it says he's technically ineligible because
- 42:59Speaker 4: he's he played only sixty four games, one shot of
- 43:02Speaker 4: the sixty five game minimum.
- 43:04Speaker 3: Well, then she's expected to appeal.
- 43:07Speaker 4: He's expected to So what Shae Wimby, Jokiics, Jylen Brown Kawhi, Yep,
- 43:16Speaker 4: that that would that would have to be the five
- 43:18Speaker 4: definitively so he's trying to fight the eligibility because his
- 43:23Speaker 4: child was born, so he missed that game, and they
- 43:26Speaker 4: might it says extraordinary circumstances.
- 43:29Speaker 3: Are you a good dad or sixty five game rule? Okay?
- 43:34Speaker 4: Which would do you want?
- 43:35Speaker 3: You?
- 43:35Speaker 4: Yea?
- 43:37Speaker 2: Or that.
- 43:40Speaker 3: A good dad? Yeah?
- 43:42Speaker 2: B he is. That's why he went crazy.
- 43:44Speaker 4: I mean that will pi it. I mean surely they will.
- 43:49Speaker 1: So it's gonna be shade like take the kids back
- 43:53Speaker 1: back back to yeah, yeah, or not his ex or
- 43:57Speaker 1: whatever she took them back home.
- 43:59Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, I I think so.
- 44:00Speaker 4: It's I mean, that's why Demon Luca happened during March.
- 44:05Speaker 1: She should be should respect him. He verses sixty five
- 44:07Speaker 1: games for that, for for her birth, for the Do.
- 44:10Speaker 4: You realize what he sacrificed? An All NBA team first team?
- 44:14Speaker 4: Come on, it's millions of dollars right there? No, like
- 44:18Speaker 4: seriously for all NBA extensions. No, but yeah, it's those
- 44:21Speaker 4: five pretty easily. Cade misses it. And okay, I know
- 44:26Speaker 4: this is random, but Jalen Johnson's gonna make it. He's
- 44:28Speaker 4: gonna make an All NBA team.
- 44:30Speaker 3: I think that's crazy to say.
- 44:32Speaker 4: Maybe maybe thirteen, I don't know. Something something like that.
- 44:36Speaker 4: Everybody else self explanatory. What do y'all want to do?
- 44:40Speaker 4: Defense or rookie next.
- 44:43Speaker 2: Defense?
- 44:44Speaker 4: Defense? All right?
- 44:47Speaker 3: WMBYBG A Sorr O G.
- 44:54Speaker 4: That's four.
- 44:56Speaker 3: No, Rudy Gobert.
- 44:59Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna have We're gonna have four, big man.
- 45:04Speaker 3: I'm putting Scottie Barnes over O G. No.
- 45:10Speaker 4: I get it, I get it, but I'd rather put
- 45:11Speaker 4: O G. I'd rather know.
- 45:13Speaker 2: I like, I get Scotty, but yeah, I'm putting O
- 45:16Speaker 2: G Scotty. Okay, all of your.
- 45:23Speaker 4: Rookie first team, the first four should be easy. Well,
- 45:27Speaker 4: I don't know, Cordon to Ryan, Dylan Harper might not
- 45:30Speaker 4: make it, but it's Cooper.
- 45:33Speaker 5: He hates Dylan Harper to Yeah, he hates Dylan Arper
- 45:38Speaker 5: soon trying to read Dylan Harpertatum and Taters.
- 45:45Speaker 6: You said, yes, I didn't say I hated allegedly. Allegedly,
- 45:55Speaker 6: I didn't say I hated the people.
- 45:58Speaker 2: Josh who Dylan Harper was?
- 46:00Speaker 3: We have this all on recording, by the way, the people,
- 46:03Speaker 3: the people know, the people know, right, don't this guy
- 46:07Speaker 3: hate these guys?
- 46:10Speaker 4: I'm gonna final.
- 46:11Speaker 2: Asked me about Dylan Harper the beginning of the season.
- 46:14Speaker 3: But whatever, I'm a Maxine right now?
- 46:17Speaker 2: Guy?
- 46:18Speaker 3: What can I say? Yeah?
- 46:19Speaker 4: No speak speaking of that? Okay, Cooper Kahn VJ Dylan Harper,
- 46:23Speaker 4: who's that fifth spot?
- 46:25Speaker 3: Its coward, It's it's Maxim right.
- 46:29Speaker 4: Okay, y'all want to do a mini debates, so y'all
- 46:34Speaker 4: could convince me because I guess I'm the tiebreaker et
- 46:37Speaker 4: centric coward.
- 46:38Speaker 2: Do you know he's a better player? Yes, he's a
- 46:42Speaker 2: better player.
- 46:43Speaker 7: I did go crazy down there right now, going crazy
- 46:48Speaker 7: post like what he didn't have all the all after
- 46:53Speaker 7: All Star Break?
- 46:54Speaker 3: Eighteen points per game? How many games anywhere that he
- 46:58Speaker 3: had twenty double double? What do you want? No, he
- 47:01Speaker 3: had twelve double doubles? What do you want him to do? Bro?
- 47:04Speaker 2: Like? How many.
- 47:07Speaker 3: He shot above sixty percent from the field?
- 47:10Speaker 2: Bro?
- 47:10Speaker 3: Above sixty percent from the field.
- 47:12Speaker 2: But when you get the green light, I'm pretty sure
- 47:14Speaker 2: that's what you're gonna do.
- 47:15Speaker 3: He's shooting threes. He's shooting like four or five threes
- 47:18Speaker 3: per game.
- 47:19Speaker 2: He's the best player on his team as a rookie.
- 47:22Speaker 2: Because everyone's down and they shun.
- 47:24Speaker 3: Who's on Memphis? Who's on Memphis?
- 47:27Speaker 2: John Moran, Jared Jackson was there half more than half
- 47:30Speaker 2: the season, Jock Landell, who you forgot the debut? What happened?
- 47:38Speaker 3: Were there when none of those guys were there? What
- 47:40Speaker 3: is that in Carroward? Dude?
- 47:41Speaker 1: The second half of the season, you know who didn't
- 47:43Speaker 1: get injured? Max Sem right now, and that's why he
- 47:46Speaker 1: is the first team all all rookie.
- 47:49Speaker 3: Okay whatever, I'm just going right now. So I guess
- 47:54Speaker 3: give me jereedmypears, give me je Derek Wolf, Derek Wolf. No, yeah,
- 48:05Speaker 3: you're right. Who is Derek Wolf? He played football? He
- 48:08Speaker 3: plays football right ninety five?
- 48:10Speaker 4: Derek for the from because.
- 48:17Speaker 3: Derek Wolf shut.
- 48:19Speaker 4: Out to Derek Wolf and Danny Manning. By the way,
- 48:22Speaker 4: Danny Manning for my fifth rio.
- 48:25Speaker 3: It's Max right now.
- 48:27Speaker 2: It's not Maxine right now, and I'm sorry guys.
- 48:30Speaker 4: Also, this is random Jeremiah Fears. He's the only person.
- 48:34Speaker 3: Right now to guy Coward had a better season.
- 48:41Speaker 4: Episode, Ryan hate.
- 48:43Speaker 2: Bailey put his Bailey in there over Mac What what
- 48:46Speaker 2: are we even talking about? Well, I'm not right.
- 48:48Speaker 3: I'm still taking Maxine right now.
- 48:51Speaker 4: I know I take Maxine this year over Ace.
- 48:55Speaker 3: Season though no, he did, doesn't Max Maxine now? It's
- 49:00Speaker 3: just better Okay, yeah, that smarter, handsomer.
- 49:08Speaker 4: More dependable, just more dependable.
- 49:11Speaker 8: But all right, let's get him in the n b A,
- 49:20Speaker 8: NOS and Computer Science.
- 49:24Speaker 4: That is all the awards right there here, Baby Daniel wolf.
- 49:31Speaker 2: Geez put this guy on a rocky team to coming.
- 49:38Speaker 4: With this guy to shout out to Kyle he trade
- 49:41Speaker 4: away Kyleman, young guy by the way in Dynasty. Just
- 49:43Speaker 4: letting y'all know, I hate him.
- 49:45Speaker 2: I hate him, guys, I hate him.
- 49:49Speaker 4: Okay, we talked about the awards. Let's get into the
- 49:53Speaker 4: playing games that are going to happen on Tuesday and
- 49:56Speaker 4: which we're gonna have to predict for Thursday whenever they
- 49:58Speaker 4: play this first game right here, Heat versus the Hornets,
- 50:02Speaker 4: where the Hornets are favored by five and a half.
- 50:04Speaker 2: Right here, give me the Hornets going to move mm
- 50:08Speaker 2: give me the Hornets.
- 50:10Speaker 3: Give me for the pod like.
- 50:12Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever done like such a
- 50:14Speaker 2: one eighty like for a team like I've never liked
- 50:17Speaker 2: the Hornets, like LaMelo and Brandon Miller just weren't weren't
- 50:20Speaker 2: my vibe. I don't know. But now con joined the
- 50:22Speaker 2: team Tooby and Kobe part of the Conkinepple Club and yeah,
- 50:30Speaker 2: I just think that it was I don't know. I
- 50:33Speaker 2: just like this team now, Bro, They're so tough, like
- 50:37Speaker 2: what LaMelo and Conkinipple literally lead the league in threes.
- 50:41Speaker 3: You know, it was crazy though.
- 50:42Speaker 1: I was the only person that put them in the
- 50:44Speaker 1: top five of my Eastern Conference teams going into the
- 50:48Speaker 1: end of the season.
- 50:49Speaker 2: But whatever, I told you all, con would be Rookie
- 50:53Speaker 2: of the Year.
- 50:56Speaker 3: Though. Cooper flags way too good. But we didn't even
- 50:59Speaker 3: we didn't even say brola slag whole in.
- 51:05Speaker 2: D P man.
- 51:06Speaker 4: No, it doesn't, Bro, he dropped fifty multiple times.
- 51:14Speaker 2: I know how good Cooper flag is.
- 51:16Speaker 4: I know he's flag.
- 51:18Speaker 3: You don't know how flagging, Bro, He's Ron Bro.
- 51:23Speaker 4: Salute the flag, Salute the flag.
- 51:27Speaker 2: Flag. Talking about Thompson's better Yeah, actually he's.
- 51:34Speaker 3: Top five worst takes you've ever said, Bro. Yeah, when
- 51:39Speaker 3: he said that the first time, I was like what,
- 51:41Speaker 3: I was like this, I was in my I remember,
- 51:43Speaker 3: I was in my being a supportive friend. I was like,
- 51:45Speaker 3: you know what, I didn't see it.
- 51:49Speaker 4: Hey, we all we all strike and miss we all.
- 51:53Speaker 4: I am am and Thomas supporter, though I do have
- 51:55Speaker 4: him on dynasty. I stood on business and hey, I
- 51:59Speaker 4: took Cooper flag first, and then I told Thompson.
- 52:02Speaker 3: They ain't treating Cooper flag like Ben Simmons. That's all
- 52:06Speaker 3: I'm saying.
- 52:07Speaker 4: Hey, hey, great defender, he's a great glue guy. All right,
- 52:11Speaker 4: all right, No, but.
- 52:13Speaker 2: Bro, genuinely like Counkin Nipple's doing this on a winning
- 52:17Speaker 2: team where the minutes matter. He led them. He was like,
- 52:21Speaker 2: he lays the league in threes, Bro, and he's doing
- 52:23Speaker 2: it on amazing efficiency, like like record breaking efficiency. It
- 52:29Speaker 2: has to be co I wish it was go MVP,
- 52:31Speaker 2: Like I know it's going to uh yeah.
- 52:33Speaker 3: But how many times did he scored twenty plus in
- 52:35Speaker 3: the first half? I think six?
- 52:41Speaker 1: No Cooper flag definitely more thirty three, fifty, like forty something.
- 52:47Speaker 2: Like another fifty piece, Bro, I know how good Cooper
- 52:51Speaker 2: flag is. I just we need some Conkin Nipple love.
- 52:53Speaker 3: Bro, Like I just I love we all. I think
- 52:56Speaker 3: we all love con But.
- 52:59Speaker 2: There's just like I wish I wanted to be co MVP.
- 53:02Speaker 2: I mean, co Rookie of the Year. Has that ever
- 53:04Speaker 2: been a thing?
- 53:06Speaker 4: There? I'm was it the.
- 53:08Speaker 2: Grand I was gonna say, Grant Hill. Has there ever.
- 53:14Speaker 4: Uh, Jason Kidd and Grant Hill. That happened.
- 53:18Speaker 2: Oh yeah it was Grant Hill.
- 53:20Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 53:20Speaker 3: Bro.
- 53:21Speaker 2: I think they're gonna do co MVP because like, yeah,
- 53:26Speaker 2: my bad, sorry keep saying MVP.
- 53:28Speaker 3: But I think he keeps.
- 53:30Speaker 2: Like from what I'm hearing around, like like on podcasts
- 53:34Speaker 2: and stuff, everyone is like they're like it's Con, Like
- 53:37Speaker 2: I'm picking Con. I don't know if they have votes,
- 53:39Speaker 2: but I.
- 53:41Speaker 4: Mean I understand the debate for for Con. I mean,
- 53:44Speaker 4: he led it the first half of the year, but
- 53:47Speaker 4: I think Cooper Flag just went so crazy. I mean
- 53:50Speaker 4: it's only been three times ever. I'm looking at it
- 53:52Speaker 4: that there's ever been a co Rookie of the Year
- 53:54Speaker 4: seventy to seventy one, ninety four, ninety five, and ninety nine,
- 53:58Speaker 4: two thousand ever since.
- 53:59Speaker 2: I think it could be in and on, but like
- 54:01Speaker 2: obviously Cooper Flag is probably gonna win it. It's not
- 54:04Speaker 2: like I'm mad or anything. I like you hate him
- 54:07Speaker 2: or anything.
- 54:07Speaker 4: You know, I'll tell you what. This has been the
- 54:10Speaker 4: closest rookie of the year in a minute because last
- 54:13Speaker 4: year and like.
- 54:14Speaker 2: Closest white boy of the year. Race two is pretty cool.
- 54:17Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
- 54:19Speaker 4: Get into Americans get in some Americans into the NBA.
- 54:22Speaker 4: Finally that are Baylor Shireman Rookie of the Year now.
- 54:28Speaker 4: But okay, okay, now we talked about all the awards.
- 54:31Speaker 4: I don't know how I missed Rookie of the Year.
- 54:33Speaker 4: But yeah, I know Hornets they're gonna Winkie. They're gonna
- 54:36Speaker 4: win this one. And I think their biggest problem before
- 54:39Speaker 4: I'm not even trying to shout out Kobe White, but
- 54:42Speaker 4: they didn't have a second ball handled outside of LaMelo ball.
- 54:45Speaker 4: Now they got Kobe White. It opens up their offense
- 54:48Speaker 4: even more and now it's just a pacing says Kobe,
- 54:53Speaker 4: I know you should have it. Have it next year.
- 54:55Speaker 4: I think it's averaging seventeen eighteen points a game something
- 54:58Speaker 4: along those me doing so well.
- 54:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know who the hell I think it
- 55:02Speaker 1: was Sross that said that, Oh yeah, who did they.
- 55:07Speaker 3: Could they trade for?
- 55:09Speaker 2: Who?
- 55:09Speaker 3: They They traded Collin Sexton for Kobe White.
- 55:11Speaker 1: Yeah, they were like they're the same offensively, so like
- 55:17Speaker 1: you know, like, I'm like, what the freak Kobe White
- 55:20Speaker 1: is a million times better than offensively? Defensively we can
- 55:24Speaker 1: have an argument, but offensively, no, bro, Like I was
- 55:27Speaker 1: like Kobe White's Night and Day better offensively.
- 55:31Speaker 2: I'm all I'm saying is Colin Sexton didn't dunk on Wimby.
- 55:37Speaker 4: I remember telling Josh about that as soon as that,
- 55:39Speaker 4: as soon as that happened, I said that.
- 55:41Speaker 3: I watched it happen, watched that happen, and then like
- 55:44Speaker 3: I was like, oh crap.
- 55:49Speaker 4: It just happens. My favorite player dunked on his favorite player.
- 55:53Speaker 3: I just and then me and DeAndre Hunter have beef.
- 55:56Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't DeAndre Hunter multiple multiple times? Are on my tripping? No?
- 56:02Speaker 3: No, he did do it multiple times twice or twice.
- 56:05Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the most anybody's gonna do. But
- 56:08Speaker 4: all right, next one, Trailblazer Flag is gonna do versus
- 56:12Speaker 4: the Suns.
- 56:13Speaker 2: He is?
- 56:14Speaker 4: He is. He dropped twenty four on him in the
- 56:15Speaker 4: first half. The other night he was being guarded by
- 56:19Speaker 4: women on my bro.
- 56:20Speaker 2: Twenty four on Womby. This dude is the best player.
- 56:26Speaker 3: Women dropped twenty six on him in the first but
- 56:28Speaker 3: he wasn't guarding it.
- 56:29Speaker 2: But Cooper Flag dropped twenty four women.
- 56:33Speaker 3: That's crazy, like Carter Bryant.
- 56:38Speaker 5: But okay, Trailblazers versus Bro trying to bro, I'm not
- 56:45Speaker 5: gonna want that boy.
- 56:47Speaker 3: Like he makes some tough shots, dude, Like no, he
- 56:50Speaker 3: does like man in the face, Like.
- 56:52Speaker 2: What happens when you're the next when that's what happens
- 56:55Speaker 2: when you're the main event.
- 56:57Speaker 3: So Loop, I like this guy's trying narrative. Like he
- 57:00Speaker 3: wasn't just hated on him like ten minutes ago.
- 57:02Speaker 4: He wasn't just saying saying, oh, I hate Cooper Flag.
- 57:06Speaker 4: I don't even know why he's.
- 57:07Speaker 2: In the league.
- 57:09Speaker 3: Cooper Flag is so.
- 57:12Speaker 2: Can you'll go back to hear me. I am part
- 57:16Speaker 2: of the con club, but Conkinipple Club.
- 57:25Speaker 3: But k O N.
- 57:31Speaker 2: You're part of the I don't know how to say
- 57:34Speaker 2: spell his.
- 57:37Speaker 3: Middle name.
- 57:37Speaker 2: It's k K and then C l U B club.
- 57:42Speaker 4: Okay, I'm part of that club.
- 57:44Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm part of that camp. We do represent
- 57:48Speaker 2: Conkinepple over here. But I do appreciate Cooper flagging what
- 57:52Speaker 2: he does. M you know, I don't hate the guy.
- 57:55Speaker 2: Please don't think I hate him, man, I don't hate Cooper. Flag.
- 57:58Speaker 2: Salute it, man, Salute the flag.
- 58:00Speaker 4: Salute the flag. Bro, shout out to my dynasty already.
- 58:05Speaker 3: Yeah right now to end up over here like how
- 58:09Speaker 3: did we end up on this conversation.
- 58:11Speaker 4: Dude, I don't know, Bro, I don't know.
- 58:14Speaker 2: We were talking about rookies, remember, oh.
- 58:17Speaker 1: You brought a can because we were talking about Charlotte
- 58:19Speaker 1: versus versus the Heat. Yeah, I didn't even get my
- 58:22Speaker 1: opinion on who I thought was gonna win either.
- 58:24Speaker 4: By the way, guys, okay, who's gonna win Josh Hornets.
- 58:28Speaker 3: Or Heat, Charlotte Hornet.
- 58:32Speaker 2: Imagine Norman Palvin, Tyler Hill just going a heater not
- 58:36Speaker 2: for real. I could see it happening.
- 58:39Speaker 4: I mean it could happen. Just Charlotte's been one of
- 58:42Speaker 4: the best offenses Lamela with that, with.
- 58:46Speaker 3: The with I guess their media girl likes like how
- 58:49Speaker 3: dumped it out? Like is heero?
- 58:55Speaker 2: She was like, he was like he's just like laughed,
- 59:00Speaker 2: such a lamellow thing you do.
- 59:02Speaker 4: Shoutoutlamello, bro, shout out lamello.
- 59:05Speaker 3: Just don't put them behind the wheel. We'll be straight.
- 59:09Speaker 4: Real.
- 59:09Speaker 2: They would Rashy Rice and Tiger Woods, Tiger you o,
- 59:19Speaker 2: j Y and Damien and here because he could have
- 59:23Speaker 2: changed the tired shout out you pa in the church shoes.
- 59:33Speaker 4: I get into that. Trail Blazers versus Sons Phoenix. Phoenix
- 59:39Speaker 4: is varied by three and a half. Who was winned
- 59:41Speaker 4: this one?
- 59:46Speaker 2: Who just Blazers in the sun?
- 59:50Speaker 3: Yeah, Blazers Suns Fanlazers.
- 59:57Speaker 4: Yeah? Wait what now?
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: I think the Suns win?
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: You know, give me the Trump Lazers. Give me Denny
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: bro my boy, Denny gonna get it done.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: I think devins what he needs to do.
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: Yeah, I say, give me the Suns. Good defensive team,
- 1:00:15Speaker 4: Devin Booker, They're gonna score.
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: I don't know if you'all have been saying how Scoop
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: and moving recently, but he's been moving.
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: I've been.
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: He has been across the court. He has been.
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: I was a dude who going crazy.
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: Do y'all see those means where it's like, uh, how
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: dudes would look you and they said, uh when you
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: said Wimby would be better than Scoot.
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: For real? Bro?
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: Like bro, but Scoot was him? Broo was him. I
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: used to be.
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: I used to be like Bro.
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: I hope the Spurs trade to number two. Also like
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: I was like.
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: Like I would be like, like, Spurs just trade every
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: first round pick like we have for that second the
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: second overall pick.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: Excuse Scoot, I believed in him, like in the offseason,
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: because you know, Dame showed up and I was like, yo, Dame,
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: Dame's really gonna help him with his shot. You know,
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: he's gonna be explosive too.
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: He's had flashes. He's had flashes. Yeah, but I think
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: that's pretty much it. All right. This next game we
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: have right here, it's gonna be the Magic versus the Sixers.
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: Right here, Sixers are fed by one and a half.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: Give me the Sixers.
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: I think this one without Embiid because who knows when
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: he comes back from his appendix surgery that he had.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: I still think it's them. The way Paul George has
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: been playing when uh yeah, since he's came back, Tyres
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: MAXI being on the best guards, he's gonna make an
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: All NBA team. Yeah.
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: I think I'm taking Sixers here too. Josh and back either,
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: So now Franz isn't back.
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: They literally were. Remember I remember the last time we
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: did a pot.
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: And play the other night he did, he played versus Boston.
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: He did.
- 1:02:00Speaker 6: Yes.
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know why I thought it was didn't
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: just come back.
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: Yeah, that was his first game back.
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: Oh. Okay, okay, okay.
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: I remember saying like the Magic like they were I
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: was talking trash about the Magic, and obviously they weren't
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: doing good. But when I was saying that, they were
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: like on a win streak, and then that's whenever they
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: played the Hawks, and then like it all went and
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: then it's just been bad since then.
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I just kind of think, don't trust Orlando right now,
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: Like I don't they bare.
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: The un for the Boston.
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they lost the second year Baylor shireman
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: and Ron harn.
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: Is the best player on the Magic. But he's just
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: he's just coming back.
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: I mean, if it's barely his first game back, he's
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: he's not.
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: He's not the best player. If he's barely come back.
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: The most available that they're gonna regret that trade.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: I think what they've been here if it wasn't for him, No.
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: I mean, they might not even get out of here,
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: you know. So it's like those things.
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: But you know it's gonna be funny. Desmond Bank, He's
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: gonna have like a thirty point game. I just this one.
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: I think Tyree's Max is gonna go crazy in this
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: game for some reason.
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: No, I got the Sixers.
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: Give me Paul George almost killed Wemby. But I mean
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: it's okay, like over.
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: Here, Fondo was really Fondo and everyone was taking freaking
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: LaMelo over Tyres. Bro give me Tyres. Yeah I was.
- 1:03:36Speaker 6: I was.
- 1:03:37Speaker 4: I mean, hey, they're both similar.
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: I mean I took Tyres similar.
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: No, they know they were similar at that time, at
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: that time period last year they were on the same Yeah.
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: Wait, I took Tyree's.
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: You weren't there.
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: I took Tyree.
- 1:03:59Speaker 4: You gonna say it like that, right because you think like, no,
- 1:04:03Speaker 4: it was Damien. Oh yeah, Josh did that day.
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: We went to hoop. You didn't. You didn't hoop with us?
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: Did he?
- 1:04:15Speaker 6: No?
- 1:04:15Speaker 4: He I thought Josh did hoop?
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: No he did it?
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: You did it hoop with we're talking about m Yeah,
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: have the fight that night we did.
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: I probably skipped out.
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was back when I was at
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: the U. That's what we called it.
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: Yeah, E T B B.
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: You all right, Yeah, we're all we're all falcons. We're
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: all falcons here.
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: This is what we do, this is what we used
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: to do. Golden State versus lost keepers.
- 1:04:46Speaker 4: Clippers faired by foreign clippers.
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: Yeah, give me the clippers. I just think the way they.
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: Can mm hmm, you know, give me, give me the
- 1:04:56Speaker 4: Clippers too. I just but I think Steph he's probable
- 1:04:59Speaker 4: have like a nuclear game right here. I mean he
- 1:05:02Speaker 4: dropped against the Rockets his first.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: Everyone else, I'm not worried about Steph. I'm worried about
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: everyone else.
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: That's you're worried about, Guy Santos.
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: You're right, he just signed, he's signed an extension. I
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: shouldn't be worried. You worried about You're worried about, are you? Series?
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: He was like, why does everyone want me to drop thirty?
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: Dude?
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: He dropped the other night.
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: So Josh, okay, a little bit of context. There's this
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: one Brandon Pozemski's Twitter Twitter page right, and he said,
- 1:05:34Speaker 4: I'm not tweeting again till Brandon Pazemski drops thirty. He
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: set that back in twenty twenty four, and he finally
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: finally got to.
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: Every number up to thirty, like one, like every number.
- 1:05:49Speaker 4: Two thirty, shout out, shout out to that guy. But okay,
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: so we have the Losers, the magic and oh no, yeah,
- 1:05:58Speaker 4: the magic.
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: It'd be magic in one it's yeah, the magic.
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: And the Hornets and it'd be the Clippers versus why
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: showing then it'd be the Clippers. Yeah versus the Blazer.
- 1:06:14Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well you said the Suns. I'm I'm saying
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: Clippers they advance that. That's me. I'm saying Clippers.
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: I say Phoenix eliminates the Clippers.
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: If it's Phoenix, they eliminate the Clippers. But if it's
- 1:06:30Speaker 4: the Trailblazers.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: Eliminate the Clippers.
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: Just in a one game scenario, I feel like it
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: really favors the Stars heavily. That's that's my thinking right there.
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go Clippers. Me tell me you don't watch
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: women's rugby?
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: I don't.
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: Sorry, I hate it the list seeing that video the
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: guy like this guy doesn't watch the women's rugby.
- 1:07:14Speaker 4: Okay, Magic versus Hornets, Who are you takings?
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: They're just too hot, you know. They're like that team
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: that's just hot coming into the playoffs and they're just
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: gonna do what they have to do and they're gonna
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: go to the finals. You know.
- 1:07:32Speaker 4: I'm I was telling Josh Hornets they have a better
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: odds of making the finals than the Lakers.
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: They do.
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: Broun might get them out the first round.
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: They're playing the we are talking Broun Broun, No Bron beats. Okay,
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: see in the second round, ain't no one stopping my
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: goat combo.
- 1:07:59Speaker 4: Ain't no one stopping the nobody's stopping it right now.
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: Bro.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: No, but I will I will like, I will like
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: I would be like Trump, I will like drop bombs
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: on everybody.
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: Bro, your producer, why are you pressed right now?
- 1:08:21Speaker 4: Yeah, our producer jb J B. No, But dude, if
- 1:08:28Speaker 4: the Lakers happen to beat the Rockets and then beat
- 1:08:31Speaker 4: the Thunder, Bro, Ryan, you're gonna have to I would
- 1:08:33Speaker 4: love to see your reaction.
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: Bro, I don't know what I do.
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: Yeah, happy because it's Lebron.
- 1:08:40Speaker 4: No, you wouldn't if you're a thunder fan that it.
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: Thunderdo. Oh my god.
- 1:08:49Speaker 4: It's like two kids fighting but you have a favorite kid.
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: Like like how you said, like remember when I said
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: Caleb playing the Cowboys and you're like, oh my god,
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: that's how would be for me.
- 1:08:59Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I get it.
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: Oh my god, my god, I get it.
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: I get it.
- 1:09:03Speaker 3: I get it.
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: Like like obviously beat they beat your like favorite player,
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: but it'd be tough.
- 1:09:10Speaker 4: I'd be I'd be happy. But crying. Yeah, I get you.
- 1:09:14Speaker 4: I know exactly what you mean. Okay, So so we're
- 1:09:17Speaker 4: not talking about the the playoffs as of now. But
- 1:09:20Speaker 4: all right, so let's go ahead and get into this
- 1:09:22Speaker 4: tier list then as far as most to gain if
- 1:09:27Speaker 4: it's gonna pull up. So this one, we're creating the
- 1:09:30Speaker 4: tier list of the top players that are in the
- 1:09:32Speaker 4: playoffs as of right now, from the most to gain
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: if they win a championship. This is all underneath if
- 1:09:39Speaker 4: they win a championship, just clarifying that. So are y'all
- 1:09:43Speaker 4: fine with these three tiers?
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: The S A and B m HM SB the most
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: A yeah, yeah, yep, yep.
- 1:09:51Speaker 4: Second B and okay this is where we start. Let's
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: just start with Scottie Barnes right here.
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: I think we gotta take him out or keep him in.
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: Put him in B.
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: Bro, just put Scottie Barnes in B. I don't think
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: he gains really much from winning a championship.
- 1:10:10Speaker 4: No disrespect to Scottie Barnes, But like Bro, after all
- 1:10:14Speaker 4: of that, you you could not be the first one
- 1:10:16Speaker 4: to go all right, Nicola Jokic, This this easily s
- 1:10:20Speaker 4: He's top ten player of all time.
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: There's only been him into top ten, like for sure,
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: I mean him into top ten.
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: I think, I.
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: Mean, how many sinners have won multiple MVPs, multiple championships?
- 1:10:35Speaker 4: What kareem?
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: Dude, No.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: Jokic moves into top ten, Kobe gets more and more out,
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: closer closer being out of my top ten.
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: I'm all for it.
- 1:10:47Speaker 4: I mean, you could argue Jokic if he wins a
- 1:10:49Speaker 4: championship eight? What eight? I would argue m over KG.
- 1:10:55Speaker 3: I would argue over kg MR.
- 1:10:58Speaker 4: I mean even even right, even over Dirk. For sure,
- 1:11:04Speaker 4: he's better than Dirk over KD. I have him over KD. Yeah,
- 1:11:11Speaker 4: I know, I think that's pretty much it. Alright, your
- 1:11:13Speaker 4: guy here next, Jalen Johnson, Josh. How does this affect
- 1:11:18Speaker 4: Jaylor Johnson's legacy?
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: Dude?
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: He might become the greatest of all time.
- 1:11:24Speaker 4: I mean, okay, let's let's frame it like this, A
- 1:11:28Speaker 4: twenty three, twenty four year old I tried cats all that.
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: I think I think Kat gets a little bit more
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: respect if he won the championship. I think cat like
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: it does a little bit more elevates him to Like, Okay,
- 1:11:44Speaker 3: this guy maybe a Hall of Famer. Yeah, I say
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: a not s but a tier. I think a tier.
- 1:11:51Speaker 4: Okay, yes here.
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: Championship.
- 1:11:58Speaker 4: Yeah, this would be the mos improbable championship ever by
- 1:12:02Speaker 4: a superstar.
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: Jason Handam just on his Kawhi story arc right now,
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy.
- 1:12:08Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, pretty much Mitchell.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: This one's Mitchell.
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: Honestly, I would play Donald Mitchell above Cat in the
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: aids here, like, I think I'll put him above I
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: think as far as Donovan Mitchell, Like, it would definitely
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: propel him to the top ten player in the NBA
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: for sure, Like, but they still argue why he's not.
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: But then also like he wouldn't be viewed as like
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: a playoff choker anymore. But you know it's not he's
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: not a choker, but like he doesn't get the job done.
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: I don't know that makes sense.
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: It's not his fault though, Like in the Bubble bro
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: that dude gave it as all.
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: As team No, I mean me and me and me
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: and fans always talking about how crazy he goes in
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: the playoffs.
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: It's just like he has that. Yeah, he's like a
- 1:12:52Speaker 3: guy that just can't get it done for some reason.
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: And if they win a championship, he'd I'm pretty sure
- 1:12:57Speaker 4: he'd be having a thirty.
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: Five Lebron put him at the top of st here.
- 1:13:02Speaker 3: If Lebron win the championship, you're not championship Bro.
- 1:13:06Speaker 4: For the context, he would have to beat Houston somehow
- 1:13:12Speaker 4: survived till the reinforcements of Luca and Austin Reeves get
- 1:13:15Speaker 4: back Bro. That improbable arc right there would be Fred. Okay,
- 1:13:21Speaker 4: if Lebron wins this year, does he retire because I
- 1:13:24Speaker 4: know he said no.
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: No, I think he does go to Cleveland. No, he
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: was talking about on Bob Das Sports shout out. Then
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: he's like, I would never I don't want to go back,
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: so m he would never go to Memphis?
- 1:13:40Speaker 4: He did. I did see that too. Okay, this one's interesting. Luca,
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: we know he's an st here, but I could argue
- 1:13:51Speaker 4: he goes above Tatum very easily.
- 1:13:54Speaker 3: I think he goes above Jokic.
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: Like Jokic has a ring Jokic has, Luca has none
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: of that like and I think just having a championship
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: elevations look to another status of superstar like. I think
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, he may not have the regular season,
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: but he got it done this one year as the
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: top guy.
- 1:14:12Speaker 4: And I think what it would do, like it would
- 1:14:15Speaker 4: give him a shot a m VP for next year.
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: He'd be the scoring, the scoring champ and the NBA
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: champion and he probably win finals MVP.
- 1:14:23Speaker 3: So like that would be like a ranging season on
- 1:14:25Speaker 3: Luca's books.
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: He's done that.
- 1:14:31Speaker 3: And MVP.
- 1:14:34Speaker 4: Now, all right, Jalen Brunson, I know he's an eight tier,
- 1:14:38Speaker 4: but do you put him above Donovan Mitchell.
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: He's had time out, time out, time out, time out.
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: Okay, he's S tier because he would be the king
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: of New York and the greatest player in like New
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: York's history.
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: He would be the best New York nick er bucker.
- 1:14:59Speaker 4: Ever that that is true, he would have to go
- 1:15:02Speaker 4: through who who are they play first?
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: The top of a tier? I feel like that's the top.
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: I feel like tier that's back of S tier to me,
- 1:15:12Speaker 2: because it's not like he hasn't been doing this, like
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: there's an expectation for him to do this, so like
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: if he gets there, they're like, oh my goodness.
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: Because yeah, he would have to go Throughston, have to
- 1:15:24Speaker 4: go through Detorter Cleveland, then have to go through San
- 1:15:26Speaker 4: Antonio or if he beats the Thunder or San Antonio,
- 1:15:31Speaker 4: then okay.
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: He's being san Antonio himself.
- 1:15:34Speaker 4: That is true. He is, he is his first scryptonite.
- 1:15:39Speaker 4: That that is true.
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: I'd go back up S tiers, like strictly off the
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: fact that, like what you said, Josh, he'd be the
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: best player New York basketball.
- 1:15:49Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know. I just feel like we're
- 1:15:51Speaker 4: about to have a bunch of players in S here
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: and it kind of defeats the point of S tier.
- 1:15:56Speaker 4: Like I'm not trying to look ahead.
- 1:15:57Speaker 3: I say, top of a tier.
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: Okay, we can put a tier.
- 1:16:01Speaker 4: On that, okay, Cade Cunningham.
- 1:16:06Speaker 3: Eighteen. I think he's behind Brunton.
- 1:16:08Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say behind Bruntson.
- 1:16:10Speaker 3: I think it's just too early. I think it's just early,
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: you know, like it's just early.
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: But if he gets it done, do that would elevate
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: him to like for sure, flirting with that sixth spot
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: of best player in the NBA.
- 1:16:23Speaker 4: And then you could say could have won or there'd
- 1:16:26Speaker 4: be talk to revisionist history saying he would have won
- 1:16:29Speaker 4: MVP if he didn't puncture his long or puncture is
- 1:16:32Speaker 4: long or something.
- 1:16:34Speaker 3: Okay, this I think this one's hard. I think this
- 1:16:37Speaker 3: one's a little hard.
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: I don't know, me a tier or.
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: Like mid s tier.
- 1:16:45Speaker 4: I don't, Oh, we're way off. You know what I'm
- 1:16:49Speaker 4: saying for Wimby, I'm having a nasty conversation. I'm saying,
- 1:16:52Speaker 4: this is the trajectory for the goat arc. I'm putting
- 1:16:54Speaker 4: them number one, like, no exaggeration, no nothing. I first though,
- 1:17:05Speaker 4: I mean, okay, people wins the championship, you can't.
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: I guess Wimby wins the championship. I think people, I
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: think he's the undisputed I don't know why.
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: I know I know why. He's the honest be best
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: player in the world.
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: M yeah, I mean I think going into next season,
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: like undoubtedly the face of the NBA, he top I think.
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: I And then, like you said, career trajectory, he supports
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: like what he was gonna do, Defensive Player of the Year,
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: first first Team All Defense.
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: I put him behind.
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's there.
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: I think Lebron right now, yeah, because he is young.
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I feel like that's because I still feel
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: like unless Luca goes crazy, it doesn't go crazy.
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: Like I think they're gonna be like all Lebron was
- 1:17:55Speaker 3: second to Luca, you know, like I feel like they're
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: that narrative behind him that one's ever sat No one's
- 1:18:01Speaker 3: ever satisfied with Lebron, you know, so.
- 1:18:05Speaker 4: I am my glorious king. But all right, Ja James Harden,
- 1:18:11Speaker 4: James Harden, I say, I say.
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: Top of a tier, like I think it just goes
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: to show like a like a cap on, like a
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career. And then also like he's not
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: known as as the.
- 1:18:26Speaker 3: Playoffs no more.
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, let's slide down behind Brunson. I
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: feel like I feel like it means more for Brunton
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: at this point in their career.
- 1:18:36Speaker 4: Yeah, because he wouldn't you put Okay, yeah, because this,
- 1:18:43Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: No, but Mitchell will never be regarded better than Harden.
- 1:18:49Speaker 4: That's true all time, m v P.
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: So, but this would propel Harden into like better than
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: Wade talks.
- 1:18:57Speaker 3: And like yeah right now, I'm just saying, but whatever.
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: Best shooting guard of all time. So like y'all think
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: that propels him into that conversation even at this age
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: because what.
- 1:19:08Speaker 3: He's doing sitting guard, I think I think it's I
- 1:19:11Speaker 3: think he moves behind Kobe like.
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: For sure, yeah, not because it's Jordan, but I was
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: about to say, Jordan and Kobe.
- 1:19:19Speaker 3: That's kind of hard to pass right there, Jordan and Kobe.
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: But I don't know, Yeah, because he is older but
- 1:19:25Speaker 4: legacy wise, like he's still.
- 1:19:27Speaker 2: Capable enough, Like he'd be above Brunton for me. Okay,
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: because he's eight tier, then he's above Brunson. He has
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: way more to game than Brunson. Okay, he would break
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: the seal of like the playoff choker.
- 1:19:42Speaker 4: Mm hmm okay.
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: It's also I would put him in this.
- 1:19:46Speaker 4: The more that I'm looking at this, I feel like
- 1:19:48Speaker 4: we might need to have another tier because like I
- 1:19:52Speaker 4: feel like these next guys or let's get done with
- 1:19:54Speaker 4: Jaylen Brown, Let's get done with Jayalen Brown. J Brown,
- 1:19:56Speaker 4: Where should he go?
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I know he had a great season,
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: but I feel like, what does a championship really do
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: for Jalen Brown's career?
- 1:20:06Speaker 4: First Team All NBA, second championship.
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: But then Tatum would would be there too. It's not
- 1:20:12Speaker 2: like he's gonna win the championship on his own. Like, yeah,
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: he did, like he got them to where they're at.
- 1:20:18Speaker 4: But yeah, that that is true. I would say, oh, well,
- 1:20:25Speaker 4: i'd have him about.
- 1:20:26Speaker 3: Cat yeah, like top of B and the Brown up
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: to a tier.
- 1:20:37Speaker 4: That that's my thinking. Okay, okay, this is what I'm saying.
- 1:20:42Speaker 4: We might need to have another tier, like a separated
- 1:20:47Speaker 4: you see D see why I'm saying that because I
- 1:20:50Speaker 4: feel like these three guys are all capable for S tier.
- 1:20:56Speaker 2: No, Sga is definitely S tier, Like he gets led
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: in like best.
- 1:20:59Speaker 4: Point, I mean the Edwards two if he wins potential
- 1:21:04Speaker 4: phase of the league.
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: I don'el like Anthony Edwards should be Like if we
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: are going to make another tier, I think he's in
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: a tier by himself.
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: Yeah, and it'd be below s No.
- 1:21:16Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think he's below Tatum.
- 1:21:19Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Okay, So I'm gonna have to do this.
- 1:21:23Speaker 4: It looks weird for now, but just just trust it.
- 1:21:25Speaker 4: Just trust it. I'm about to move everybody down so
- 1:21:30Speaker 4: we could make another one. What should we name it?
- 1:21:34Speaker 3: Then?
- 1:21:35Speaker 4: What should we name it?
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: Like?
- 1:21:38Speaker 4: Uh, just the C Yeah, we could just see it
- 1:21:41Speaker 4: like that. So that okay. That's where I ask with Tatum,
- 1:21:46Speaker 4: like would Tatum be in the A tier?
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: Nah?
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: Because he's I think if people know who Tatum is,
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: the top five player in the world, like arguably a
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: top five.
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: Player in the world.
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: You know, like, I don't think I think Anthony Edwards
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: show signs of being the top five player in the world,
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: but I just don't think anyone will regard him as
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: a top five player in the world.
- 1:22:07Speaker 4: I buy that. I buy that. Yeah, that is true.
- 1:22:10Speaker 4: But okay with Shaye back to it was right back
- 1:22:16Speaker 4: to championship wimb Yeah, he has to be yeah, okay, okay,
- 1:22:20Speaker 4: the greatest run it might be.
- 1:22:21Speaker 3: Okay, now that I look at this, I think I
- 1:22:23Speaker 3: want to be above Lebron.
- 1:22:27Speaker 4: Jo kids above Lebron.
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't want him. I don't want Jokics
- 1:22:31Speaker 2: in front of Luca.
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: But I think it does more as far as like
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: goat status, not status, but top ten status all time
- 1:22:41Speaker 3: for for Jokics, that makes sense.
- 1:22:43Speaker 4: Because like Lebron, you could like he's.
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: Yeah, but people, but one championship is not enough compared
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: to two. Yeah, if that makes sense, you know, like,
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: and we know Luca's better than Tatum. That's why he's
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: still above Tatum.
- 1:22:59Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Ryan doesn't think so, but yeah, there
- 1:23:05Speaker 4: there is video. There is video evidence of that.
- 1:23:08Speaker 3: One there is I think I think is right behind
- 1:23:11Speaker 3: Wimby though that's not the argument right now.
- 1:23:13Speaker 4: That's not that's not the argument, but propel, I think
- 1:23:19Speaker 4: that I just.
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: Think he wins another ring.
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: SGA is right where he's at right now, like you know,
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: like I don't think his status changed as much. I
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: mean that in the in the n B A like
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: in the NBA right now, like how much more can
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: you go higher? You know what I'm saying, Like, I
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: think it's more like he's kidding. I think I think
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: it's getting to that point where it's like, Okay, who's
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: he better than all time? And at the point guard
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: position now, you know, like.
- 1:23:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like you could argue into top three,
- 1:23:50Speaker 4: you can who's who's had the who's had the better
- 1:23:54Speaker 4: peak all time? You could say m J back to
- 1:23:57Speaker 4: back m VPS winning back to back championships, ship.
- 1:24:00Speaker 3: That team, he's all.
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: He would also be like the twenty twenty dynasty, like
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: no one's done it.
- 1:24:07Speaker 4: Yeah, first back to back since seen I mean, and
- 1:24:12Speaker 4: even at that that was that was almost ten years ago.
- 1:24:16Speaker 4: That was the cheat Coded Warriors right there, like come on,
- 1:24:19Speaker 4: let's be honest.
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: Like yeah, not that, and then the back that was
- 1:24:25Speaker 2: what who who do you'all think would if he if
- 1:24:27Speaker 2: he wins again, who do y'all think? Where do you
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: think he lands in? Point Guard, ran King.
- 1:24:34Speaker 3: Magic, Step Magic, I think those are still above him.
- 1:24:38Speaker 2: Magic Peaks, he'd be up there with Jordan's.
- 1:24:43Speaker 4: And oh yeah, for I think he already is.
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: But if we just look at like, yeah, I think
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: peaks are different compared to like accolades added on, you
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. As far as like yeah, just
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: like the m v p s and the championships, they
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: go a long way, you know. And then like I
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: think those two are in a tier of their own
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: magic and stuff interchangeable. I don't really care who has
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: a bove, you know, like at that in my opinion,
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: and then after that, like I think, oh, like for me,
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: people think I'm crazy for always having Chris Paul number three,
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: you know, but I I think, And there's Russ I
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: think she is better than Russell Westbrook, I think, but
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: there's Oscar Robertson Cherry west like.
- 1:25:28Speaker 4: But it's hard to consider. It's it's really hard to
- 1:25:31Speaker 4: consider those guys, like I.
- 1:25:33Speaker 3: Mean, but we can't.
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: We have to be consistent, I feel like, I mean,
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: like as far as Bill Russell and Kareem and like
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: all those guys, they're still in the top ten.
- 1:25:41Speaker 4: So but but that's what I'm saying. Even even so,
- 1:25:44Speaker 4: you could if s g.
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: A wins a champions above Big Oh, I'll have sh
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: a about Big Oh, for sure, I'll have him three.
- 1:25:53Speaker 4: I'd have him three.
- 1:25:55Speaker 3: Thomas Thomas, I think I have them three or four?
- 1:26:04Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would, I would say three. The
- 1:26:07Speaker 4: biggest thing is that.
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: Okay, I have to give him a not above Chris Paul,
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: like I I think, I just I think my bias
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: towards Chris Paul as far as like his dominance is
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: like goes overlooked sometimes.
- 1:26:17Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I'd have to put him above Chris
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: Paul just as far as the championships and MVPs.
- 1:26:24Speaker 4: Just be back, yeah, back to.
- 1:26:28Speaker 3: It's your greatest season ever.
- 1:26:31Speaker 4: Yeah, you're the greatest peak with Lebron.
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: Yeah, because I guess Stockton or kid like Nash, if
- 1:26:38Speaker 3: Nash win a championship, I think there would be a debate.
- 1:26:41Speaker 4: Yeah, if Nash won a championship right right there in
- 1:26:44Speaker 4: the six was it O five and six? Yeah?
- 1:26:47Speaker 3: Those seven, O seven.
- 1:26:50Speaker 4: The okay, yeah Lakers, the six seven yeh no, but okay,
- 1:26:56Speaker 4: Kevin Kevin Durant for this last one?
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: Mm, should we put him with Dant?
- 1:27:02Speaker 3: I think he's above Ant.
- 1:27:04Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't say s tire Well, I don't know.
- 1:27:09Speaker 4: If he wins with the Rockets, you're seventeen, clearly leading
- 1:27:13Speaker 4: the team, he would have to go through well, the
- 1:27:16Speaker 4: Lakers and the Thunder then the Spurs. I'm just I'm
- 1:27:20Speaker 4: just building the argument.
- 1:27:21Speaker 3: I think. I just think, I just think.
- 1:27:26Speaker 4: Taking out the defending champs and the.
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: Love I like KT, but I think like he ruined
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: his own legacy, like as far as like in some
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: people's eyes, like they're never gonna be like, oh yeah
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: that those rings with the Warriors count, you know, like
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: which they count for Steph because Steph didn't he came
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: to step Steph didn't go to him.
- 1:27:48Speaker 3: You know. Like so I think as far as KD like,
- 1:27:51Speaker 3: I think maybe this gives him one real real ring
- 1:27:53Speaker 3: in people's eyes. Mm hm, he's no.
- 1:28:02Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't put him above Tatum either.
- 1:28:03Speaker 2: Because he's already top ten top like, so yeah.
- 1:28:09Speaker 3: He wouldn't be much higher.
- 1:28:10Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, maybe one more slot you could because what
- 1:28:14Speaker 4: moves like you could say he's argued outside of the
- 1:28:18Speaker 4: top ten. You could say, now he's in the top ten, maybe.
- 1:28:21Speaker 2: He's already regarded as the best score ever.
- 1:28:23Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that is true. Okay, are we making the
- 1:28:26Speaker 4: changes with Lebron Lebron that that area or anything?
- 1:28:33Speaker 3: I want to move your kitchen above Lebron?
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do that.
- 1:28:37Speaker 4: I mean, I'm perfectly fine with that. So what do
- 1:28:40Speaker 4: we swap? We slop or no, We're gonna keep it
- 1:28:44Speaker 4: like this, Lebron?
- 1:28:45Speaker 3: And do you think we should move Tatum down one
- 1:28:48Speaker 3: tier just based off the whole season as a whole.
- 1:28:51Speaker 4: That's what I'm thinking.
- 1:28:53Speaker 2: Yeah, that then we if we do that, we have
- 1:28:57Speaker 2: to move Brown up.
- 1:29:02Speaker 4: To No, I would say he still stays the same.
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: Well, no, If if we're doing it based off the
- 1:29:08Speaker 2: whole season, then Jalen Brown has been doing it the
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: whole season, So why wouldn't we move him up and
- 1:29:12Speaker 2: Tatum down?
- 1:29:15Speaker 3: I just feel like Jalen Brown got that Scotty Pippen
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: roll right now.
- 1:29:18Speaker 4: Yeah, Like he's a great player, first team All NBA
- 1:29:23Speaker 4: able like Jason Tatum. If he wins a championship at
- 1:29:27Speaker 4: least all time, he could still be arguing this is
- 1:29:30Speaker 4: one of the twenty five best players of all time.
- 1:29:31Speaker 4: You're not arguing that with Jaylen Brown that that's my
- 1:29:34Speaker 4: thought process behind that. Oh nah bo Okay, Okay, I'm
- 1:29:40Speaker 4: just saying this looks it's perfect. It's perfect. It's perfect
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- 1:29:45Speaker 3: It's good to good board.
- 1:29:47Speaker 4: Okay, So are we gonna play a game or no? Nah, bro,
- 1:29:50Speaker 4: I gotta go sleep cause okay, one one last thing.
- 1:29:55Speaker 4: So yeah, I was about to say, let's do Okay,
- 1:29:59Speaker 4: I want to do my so called m VP right here.
- 1:30:01Speaker 4: So this guy, he's been consistent, right, and then finally
- 1:30:05Speaker 4: big time players make big time plays. So he actually
- 1:30:08Speaker 4: it wasn't a game he played on Saturday, but he
- 1:30:10Speaker 4: made a big time decision on Saturday, and.
- 1:30:15Speaker 3: This boy engage. Shout out to my.
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