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The New Kid · A Time to Sharpen

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Is there anything worse than a dull blade?
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Wow, yeah, lots of things. I guess, poverty War, trying to
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figure out how to set a timer on the VCR.
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You don't have a VCR anymore. Trust me.
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It's as bad as you remember. Seriously though, a dull blade
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is bad. It's unusable in fact it's
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downright dangerous knives need sharpening.
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From Whetstone Boys Ranch in Mountain View.
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Missouri comes a time to sharpen a Bi weekly podcast that
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examines how we can all be better versions of ourselves
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better teachers. Better counselors better parents
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better people. We've all been the new kid on
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the Block. We all know what it feels like
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to have all eyes on you. You, you're in a fishbowl and
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there is no way out the faces of people around, you are
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exaggerated by the strange curved glass that distorts, your
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view of them and traps. You inside their gaze and
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Whetstone Boys, Ranch, we have a boy or two or three, going
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through this experience every month and it's our
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responsibility to make them feel welcome loved seen and heard,
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it's not easy. But we've learned a few tricks
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along the way and on this anniversary episode load of a
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time to sharpen. We'd like to share them.
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Welcome back to a time to sharpen.
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This is Axel Lima to I'm here with Brandon Maxwell.
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Hello. Hello, hello, Brandon the
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studio. Yeah, back in the saddle.
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Again, I wanted to say Back in Black as we just listened to so
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we did. We talked about how that would
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be really good intro music for the show.
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Yeah, talk to a CDC. Maybe cajole them into letting
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us use that, right? Yeah, we're going to We'll call
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him next week. Yeah.
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See what they say? Yeah.
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So like I said, we're actually, I didn't say it but I want.
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I want everyone to know how glad I am to be here talking with you
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Brandon and glad that they're tuning in that they're
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subscribing. Glad that they're that they have
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us on a list somewhere. It's a nice to be part of a
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community of sharpeners. Yeah.
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What do you think about that? We think about calling our
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listeners. Sharpened sharpeners.
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It's possibly, it's good. We've had some conversations
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with a few folks that say they have been listening and getting
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some value out of that. So that's always good to hear
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and good to hear some parents. Get a few tips right about how
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to work with their son. And that account.
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How's that sound? Hello?
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Fellow sharpener fellows. Sharpeners.
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You know, like my fellow Americans, my fellow sharpeners.
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Yeah, I guess I'm Lena. I'm not ready to make a decision
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on that right now. It's not bad.
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I don't want to commit. Yeah, I do want to apologize
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though. For my allergies, we are in the
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allergy season at least for me. Anyways, stuff starts blooming
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Springs right around the corner. So if I sound like I'm talking
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through a funnel or something, it's my allergies.
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My lovely allergies. Why don't you ever get
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allergies, man? I do have, I do but I think
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Maybe what it is? We went to Lexington this past
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weekend and for those of you who are in Lexington and I know some
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people from the Bluegrass State tune in because I lived there
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for 10 years and right got a lot of friends there, but I
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sometimes when I go to another geographical region will will
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pick up some something like that.
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So it could be that your time and in Kentucky contributed to
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it, whereas I lived in Kentucky. So maybe I still have some of
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those antibodies in my system to prevent me from from getting
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allergies. He's all I know.
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Is it happens every year? Yeah.
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And it's frustrating. Yeah, but it is what it is.
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One of those things enough about allergies.
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Well and actually I can segue. I can I'm pretty good at
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segueing into just about anything in 25.
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I've never read this segue so you can teach me how in 25 years
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of teaching, I've had to take some pretty off-the-wall,
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comments and redirect them redirect some topic.
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But speaking of like being from different parts of the country
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and things like that, we have boys who come to the ranch.
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Year from at this point, I think it's close to 40 different
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states. There are some Western States,
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some states in the Northeast that we don't have former
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residents in. But we literally have served
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boys from all over the world, a different countries and states.
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And so they come to this environment and it's it's a
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totally new and foreign alien place to them and we thought
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that we would talk about that some today.
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What? It's like to be a new boy.
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What it's like to acclimate to this environment different weeds
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that you're allergic to and different diet and and what it's
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like to be a resident here. When new people are coming in
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all the time in the dynamic is changing and how do we deal with
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that as a as a ranch and how do we encourage the young men who
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come here and their families to just stick with us?
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And, you know, things will get better we'll get through this
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rough patch as we're adjusting to each other.
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Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot there.
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Where, where do you want to start with that?
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Just maybe how with just that from the Dubois perspective.
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We have step on campus, you boys, come here just recently.
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So I'm sure you have some of our parents are listening.
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Now who are just hungry for information, right about what's
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the everyday life of my son right now?
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Like I get a lot of questions least when I was the Headmaster
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about what if my son doesn't want to do you program?
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Want to do anything. I tell them to do.
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Why do I think, why should I believe you?
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When you say will be able to get him on board and going along
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with the program? Yeah, so I mean, starting with
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something as simple as the shopping trip, like how many
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shopping trips have you made with new voice personally?
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It's been a while since I've done a but over the years, I've,
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I don't know, done. Probably a dozen.
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Yeah, of them. Did you when you were house
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parents? Did you do those trips with the
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boys or we did with? They weren't leave.
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I needed. But it was the program with
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somebody different yet and some of the have a standard wardrobe
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or yeah. It's it wasn't as a structured
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and as it we did, we can we order off Amazon?
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I think we could, but you didn't do it.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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A little suspicious. But yeah, there's always just,
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you know, leading up to the day with the families and the boys.
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It's just we know that there's going to be a lot of emotion
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going going around and we really we try it's very structured day
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because we don't want to belabor the intake because of that
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emotion it's we're usually pretty short with parents that
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they come in most of the paperwork or any of that stuff
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is already been done. It's just some last-minute
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things and just some, you know, getting them settled into their
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room. And any last-minute details that
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that they need to know and then we really give them 10 to 15
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minutes to say goodbye and we really need the parents to the
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quicker, the parents, they can say their goodbyes and just
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assimilate the boy into the program.
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The better. The longer that that gets played
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out, it usually doesn't end as well.
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Not that there's, it just needs to be something like tearing off
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a Band-Aid. Yeah, just gonna do it and then,
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Let the boys start getting settled into the program.
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Yeah. And just some more facts about
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the way we do it. Like a boy has to go through a
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two-week period before he's allowed a phone call back home
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so that distance helps to it's actually better with the
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homesickness, obviously, you know, get past those first
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couple days. And, you know, that you're not
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that you can't have a phone call.
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Instead of wondering if you're going to get one and then they
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can adjust to some of the rhythms of school.
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And, and Eating up in the morning and dinner and rack and
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everything and tends to make that time go a little more
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smoothly. Yeah.
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Yeah you mentioned a lot of homesickness.
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You just think about most of our boys I would say come from
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higher populated areas so the next thing you know you find
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yourself in the middle of the Ozarks and house.
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That is a big house on 285 acres and you don't really see too
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many other structures around here.
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All you see is pastures and trees and you're not used to
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that and you're not used to any of the The boys, you're with a
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lot of strangers. A strange adults.
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Yeah. And just your whole world is
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gotten turned upside down. So just putting yourself in the
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place of these boys. We for that reason.
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We really give them a pretty wide berth for the couple of
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days before we, you know, have any real expectations for them
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with program wise, right? And honestly some boys come and
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they didn't know when they left. That they were going to be left
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with us here at Whetstone. Yeah, that's not the best way to
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do it. And right, we advise against
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that. But there are circumstances
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Where The Boys safety is a concern.
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He may be as a Flight Risk and just all things considered it
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was the best. They could do to get in the car
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and to get moving in this direction, right?
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And so they sometimes will find out right then that their
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they're not going home with their parents.
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And so it's a wide variety of search.
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Some boys have known for months, you know, their parents got on
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the website. Site.
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They looked at it, they know where their common, they maybe
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even gave an option said here are three different places you
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can go and they chose Whetstone and so everywhere from that to
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just finding out immediately you know, that day that morning that
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our that they're here. So we have to be pretty Adept at
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dealing with all of those different circumstances and of
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being able to connect with a boy very quickly and build some
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trust. And one way to do that is we go
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to the shopping trip and so we'll take them as long as
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they're not a flight risk that I Day or the next day will go out
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and buy some boots. We may have to buy some some
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pants depending upon the sizes that we have available in stock
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will let them choose a restaurant to go out to eat some
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pizza place or a barbecue place or something like that.
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And I've always found that to be pretty, pretty good.
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Time to build a relationship, learn who he is, let him know
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about myself. Yeah, not a lot of stress and
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get them adjusted. I have an opportunity to eat,
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homemade cookies to, with a Get in here.
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Yeah, you've done a good job of doing that making it the more of
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a welcoming environment when a family comes and writing their
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name on a chalkboard and saying, welcome to the boy, welcome to
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the family. Yeah, we've learned a few things
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about how to make that process. A little less less painful.
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Yeah, it's the, as we said, the emotion is rough and the smell
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of homemade cookies. It can only help, right?
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It may, it may not help all that much.
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Sometimes it may have more than we think, but I smell cookies.
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You walk in. You smell some homemade cookies.
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It's a pleasant smell. So yeah, I'll just a little
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details that we can do to try to help a family know that we care
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know that we're thinking about them and know that it is a
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difficult day. Yeah, a lot of empathy that we
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have to practice and communicate and also we have to try to coach
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our boys to be able to do the same thing with and with the new
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guy that comes in and that's a tricky process.
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Maybe we can talk a A bit more about because there's a lot of
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things at play. There's a Natural Curiosity.
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The boys. Have when a new Boy comes in.
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They want to know what the latest Tick-Tock video is.
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That's always a hot topic of composite conversation.
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They want to know what what musical artists they like and
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they want to know what's going on in the outside world.
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And they also want to know, is this guy someone that I'm going
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to kind of vibe with, what's this sense of humor?
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Where's it from? Is this someone that's going to
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be a thorn in my side and who's going to annoy me or is Someone
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that I'm gonna befriend and can join join me on this journey.
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And so, what are some other factors you see with the the
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social dynamics of a new boy coming into the ranch?
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Yeah, there's always just the chatter with the guys.
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Oh, we're getting a new guy on Monday and those are our typical
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intake days and so we let the boys know we don't want that to
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be a surprise to them. And so, limited on what we can
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share. Share for privacy reasons,
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right? Our hands are kind of coughed a
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little bit. Yeah, I mean they once the boys
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here they can ask him any questions and you know, that is
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what it is. But as Axl said, due to
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confidentiality we just say hey there's a new boy coming, his
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name is Alex or whatever it is and that's all we can really
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tell him. So there's some anticipation.
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Is the boy a hue is he's six foot four.
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I mean, Jeremy always talks about the new Boys 6 foot
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forward. He weighs 300 pounds and just to
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kind of as a joke, Oh, can, you know, to intimidate them?
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But that's how the boys do they, just, there's size and everybody
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up. There's a natural pecking order
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to the house depending on how the boys are doing.
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And so it really, every boy changes, the Dynamics of the
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house. Sometimes for the better
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probably more often for the worse.
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I would say not like in the sense where it's just a
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catastrophe, but just things are different.
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We actually just had a boy today as We were talking before the
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podcast that these on Level 3 and getting close to graduating,
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making some good strides. But in the last month, I mean
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there's been like for new guys come and he made the statement
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of just like that. What's done is just not the same
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and he's been getting in trouble more than he has been.
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Yeah and part of that is this thing we're talking about with
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all these new guys coming in and there is an expectation for The
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guys that are at level 3 and above to provide some
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leadership, and to help the new guys kind of get assimilated
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into the program, but we can't really expect them to much to
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really bring them up more often. Those guys, the new guys bring
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the higher level guys down, right?
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More than it does. The other goes, the opposite
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direction. Yeah.
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So and that's one reason why we're planning to build another
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facility, we're calling it the foundation's house.
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We're in the middle of a fundraising campaign, a capital
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campaign to get that, get that building up and running and
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really the sooner, the better because we're at a point.
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Now we have ten boys and the things are starting to get
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packed. You know, it happens.
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Really quick. You're at you're at 78, boys.
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Things have you got a good ratio?
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You get nine, you get to feeling like we're really at our
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capacity. So that 10th boy in there and
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with the space that we have, it can really Lee contribute to I
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mean it's a we call it a setting condition.
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Yeah. That's the phrase that we use
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something that that you can manage or you can control if you
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have the facilities, if you plan accurately, you can create a
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situation that promotes growth or you can just react to the
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circumstances. So we want to be proactive.
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So we're running to build this facility.
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It's going to house nine new boys and we're calling the
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foundation's house because it's going to be a house where the
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new boys go and the boys have been here.
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Level 2 level 3. They're going to stay in the
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house where we are now and they'll be able to continue to
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build each other up and and not get pulled down by the new guys.
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Yeah, we've really found that 9 is about The Sweet Spot in this
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house. And as you mentioned, we have 10
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we have 11 coming, I believe, next week.
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It's so say we do the best we can with what sorry, sorry about
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that noise pollution but we do the best we can with what we
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have with the facilities we have but we yeah we feel God's
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calling us to serve more families and we're right in the
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middle of clearing ground right now.
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We have some dozers out here and work being done.
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It's good to see that after all the planning and prep and and
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work involved with that, it's good to finally see some some
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more noise pollution Brandon. I wish you, I wish you weren't
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such a polluter. What a disaster.
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We'll have to have Tom edit, some of this out.
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But anyways, that's yeah. The to remedy that problem.
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With the new guys Helping them assimilate in and for the older
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guys that are here to give them some space from the new guys.
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I think all of that combined will help make it a stronger
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program and better for families. Better for the boys.
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Yeah, some other things we do with new guys is we diagnose
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them academically to see where they're at the program.
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The academic program here is structured so that boys have to
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teach themselves and take responsibility for their
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learning but they can't do that if they're working on material,
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that's too difficult for them to teach themselves.
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Elves. Also, it's too easy, that's a
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problem. So that's something that we've
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gotten really good, at is finding out where those goes
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guys are and what they can take ownership of.
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We have to know where they're at like physically emotionally
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psychologically. You got to assess all that.
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So that just have good information about how you're
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going to deal with the boy and the approach.
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You're going to take, we also do Adventure week with the the
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newer guys, they can't go for their home.
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Visit brand and I are going to be doing That along with two
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other staff members. This this time around, first
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week in April, we got eight guys going with us on an adventure
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week. It will be an adventure it will
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for sure. And if you haven't listened to
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Adventure week, it's a podcast that we did early on.
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That will give you some more information about what that
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process is like, if you're investigating Whetstone and you
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want to know more more about that process that you'll find
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very informative. I was thinking about just
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thinking about the just a personal story real quick.
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And as we were preparing for the podcast and just I remember when
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I was, when we moved to California and we had grown up
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in Texas and played Sports and kind of had our crew, had our
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people we played sports with and kind of, didn't have to prove
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ourselves to coaches and, and our peers.
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And then we, my dad took a job in Northern California from
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Abilene Texas to like Pleasanton California.
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It's a big move is like a big Nation increase.
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And so there's small fish in a big pond and having to prove
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yourself. I was always small.
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And so anyways, it was just there was a couple of year
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period there where I really got in a handful of fights.
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I don't even know if you never do know that part about my life
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but it's really 7th and 8th grade.
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There were a handful of fights that I got into for that reason.
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It was just like, just trying to prove myself.
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I was small, they were some, you know, just some kids, making fun
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of me for my side. Sighs.
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And there was just it was just hard being the new guy, that's
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just kind of the way it is for a lot of people and new situations
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and so I think it's just even more.
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So we all know that feeling of being the new guy and not being
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so familiar with our surroundings, but I think it's
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just even more. So with our boys, just trying to
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help the listeners out there, understand the situation that
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they're in, I think is even a little bit more than I'm just
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the new guy, because there's all this, But emotion kind of
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surrounding that situation. There's a whole other level 2
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with boys who were adopted. Yeah, we're good third,
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sometimes up to half of our boys at one time are adopted and so
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there's a lot of times some attachment issues that they're
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already struggling with and so then to be brought to a facility
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and quote-unquote dropped off by.
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The parents is a very, it's a triggering event brings back.
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A lot of brings up a lot. Of stuff.
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And you know, it's something we have to work through but it's
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something we'll also that as a teacher and coach and everything
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like that. I'm and I want to speak to
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parents who are listening to this also, who aren't going to
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send their boy to whet stone or her looking for some tips about
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how to get through a difficult period with their son.
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Like to remember there's a book that Matt used to recommend and
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I think Katie uses it to about 10 things.
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An adoptive parent should know, 20 pick 20 things?
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Yeah. 20 things and I've heard a lot of people speak.
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Very highly of that book. And just that the things that
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you wouldn't normally think about an adopted child having to
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go through. You know, you're looking in the
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mirror and wondering if they look like their parents, you
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know, they'll never know. And so we're pretty well
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informed about some of those things as staff and we try to
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inform the boys about some of those things also.
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But again, we're Limited in terms of like their story is
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their story of what. Comes here.
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He may not be comfortable knowing all the other residents
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knowing his adoption story, right?
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All the things that he's struggling with and we don't
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want boys to overshare, but we also want them to, you know,
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engage with other boys. So, one of the character traits
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that we have is kindness and I wanted to talk a little bit
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about that. So that people are familiar with
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the program and also how how we go about teaching these things.
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But that empathy of knowing where another boy, Boy, is
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coming from and trying to think about things from his
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perspective is a skill, something you have to practice.
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yes, so with kindness, the character trait for the month,
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we have a Bible verse that. We wanted to talk about that.
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Revolves around that Deuteronomy. 10:9 love ye
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therefore the stranger for ye Were Strangers in the land of
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Egypt so the idea of kindness as it applies to the new guy and
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how we can really, what kind of what we alluded to, what we
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would like our boys to, at least start to practice.
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Try to figure out, you know, do unto others as you would have
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them. Do to you.
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Figure out how you felt when you were new to the Program, whether
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it's two weeks ago, or two months ago, you know how you
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felt it was not an easy day, right?
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This boy is going to be in that spot.
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Let's show some kindness. Let's show some empathy to them.
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Those are certainly things that we encourage the boys to do,
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about the scene from Dumb and Dumber, where the hit man's in
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the phone booth. Oh, yeah, another guy wants to
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use the phone, and he's tapping on the glass and he says, you
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ever heard of the concept of other people, other people who
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will reference that line Amongst ourselves sometimes we're
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talking about it, the theory and the guy in the phone booth.
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Does not show empathy because he ends up punching him in the face
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through the yeah it's like hey well I can't hear you come here
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closer to the glass but we all another illustration that we use
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is Like if if someone's in a pit right and and you're looking
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down in them in the pit and they need a way out and you offer
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them a sandwich. There's a little cartoon that we
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show. Sometimes we have a chapel
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brene, Brown a brown. Thank you.
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She does a really good job of narrating.
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This this clip you can you can see it on YouTube.
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It's just a couple minutes long but it's just a perfect
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illustration of what we do sometimes when we try to To
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connect with someone we do and we do it in a way, sometimes
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that pushes them further away like it's a little bear and a
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fox or something in the video. And she says the Bears up at the
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top and the foxes in the hole or vice versa.
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You want a sandwich down there, instead of like offering him a
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way out and we try to Silver Line things sometimes.
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And yeah like was it is empathy versus sympathy?
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Yeah. Right.
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I think it's something like that.
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Yeah. Sympathy is just like.
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Oh yeah. So you're in a hole.
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Would you like a sandwich, right?
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Where empathy is like man that is A tough spot.
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What look is there anything I can do from here to help you?
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Yeah, some of the Nuance there right but that's a lot to expect
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a teenager to do. Especially a teenager with
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coming from a difficult situation is already hurting,
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right. We say sometimes a lot hurt,
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people hurt people. Yeah.
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And to expect someone is hurting to reach out and to be
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thoughtful and kind to other peoples a big ask.
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And so again impressing upon You know, those listening, the
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importance of building this the second house and this is not
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meant to be a commercial by any means.
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I'm just, I'm trying to let people understand what it's
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like, as we struggle in an environment that offers some
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very challenging situations at times to communicate, you know
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these skills? Yeah.
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Well a big part of that is is space would be the this idea of
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space. Could you can go a lot of
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different directions, but we just we all need space to
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breathe in to kind of get removed from The milieu or
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certain situations or - setting conditions as you said and it's
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just the reality that when we get with our staffing ratios and
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our boys and we're all officing out of this house and three
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meals a day and rambunctious teenage.
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Boys. You just we all need space.
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The boys need space from each other and it's important to
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create space so we can breathe and let things are out and It's
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so that's that's a big part of what we seek to do with the new
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building and and other buildings is just create the right amount
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of space for relationships to happen and allow some of these
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things to happen with their the sharpening to growth and and the
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the whole ethos behind what stone and the sharpening effect.
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Yeah. Well speaking of space and
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programming and everything we have graduate-level ceremony
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that we're about to head out to yeah.
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Guy who's going to the third level?
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We have three levels here at Whetstone when a guy comes in
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who's brand-new, he's on level 1, he stays on that level for
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six to eight weeks sometimes longer and then he makes it a
27:25
level to that period takes another three months and then
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the last stage level 3 is it to two month period.
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And the boy this afternoon that we're going to Braids and
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encourage has made it to that level 3, so it's an exciting
27:39
time for us all to encourage him to offer, tell some stories to
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watch a little video where we can witness his progress and see
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how far he's come. So we're gonna, I think roll out
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here Brandon and get down to that and sounds good, sounds
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good. We need to come up with a sign
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out that we were talking earlier, right about You know,
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what's our altitude? Yeah.
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Like our audience members and people listen to it are
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sharpeners and we do that and we're dry.
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Cool. What can we say at the end?
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That's a little catch phrase or something.
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So I guess if you have any ideas out there we would welcome.
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Some suggestions. You want to message us the made
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time. Keep trucking get Truckin.
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I heard that one before, right. Keep grinding.
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Yeah. So trucks, keep grinding.
28:26
We thought about a golfing analogy grinder is also like a
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sharpener to but the Grinders a little more Brave.
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Civ. I don't want to give the
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impression that we're giving off Sparks all the time.
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But Matt Foley, go for it, go for it, you can do, it will
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speak. You can do a something
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encouraging that that will send people out on a high note.
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But, but for now, I'll just say, we'll see you next time.
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All right, on a time to sharpen. Thanks for listening.
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Take care. Bye bye.
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