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Communist China Comes to Washington, Democrat Hasan Piker wants to Put Americans in Chinese Jails & Talarico “Pastor” Says She Doesn’t Believe in Jesus · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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  Speaker 2: It's so nice to have you with us, especially if
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  Speaker 2: you're listening on the radio around the country. Senator, it
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  Speaker 2: was one heck of a week in Washington, D.C., where
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  Speaker 2: you were. And not only was it a big week there,
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  Speaker 2: but it was also a very big week in New
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  Speaker 2: York City at the United Nations as well. And we've
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  Speaker 2: got a lot to cover.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this week, President Xi Jinping was in Washington, D.C.,
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  Speaker 3: to meet with President Trump and to be there for
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  Speaker 3: a state dinner. Washington was shut down for most of
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  Speaker 3: the day that she was there. Many of the streets
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  Speaker 3: were closed, and the guest list included many of the
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  Speaker 3: most prominent CEOs in America. Virtually all of the tech
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  Speaker 3: CEOs came in for it. In many ways, you read
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  Speaker 3: through the guest list, and it was an illustration of
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  Speaker 3: how The battle with China and the race for AI
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  Speaker 3: is front and center, and every one of those tech
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  Speaker 3: CEOs is engaged right in the middle of that battle.
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  Speaker 3: But the president brought Xi in and did what Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump does frequently, which is negotiate with our adversaries, and
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  Speaker 3: I am confident, press the interest of the United States.
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  Speaker 3: The contest with China... I think is the single biggest
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  Speaker 3: and most significant geopolitical threat facing this country for the
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  Speaker 3: next hundred years. And I, for one, am very glad
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  Speaker 3: we have a president like Donald Trump who's willing to
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  Speaker 3: stand up to China as compared to during the four
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  Speaker 3: years of Joe Biden, a president who would not do so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really interesting to see, and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get into that meeting. And exactly what I always
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  Speaker 2: talked about, especially publicly, there's a lot that the media
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  Speaker 2: I want to go back to the state dinner. And
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  Speaker 2: there was some criticism by some of the people that
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  Speaker 2: I know well in the world of politics who were
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  Speaker 2: saying the president shouldn't be rolling out the red carpet
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  Speaker 2: for China. shouldn't be doing a state dinner, shouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: smiling and grinning. And I laugh because this is a
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  Speaker 2: president that's made it clear, whether it was his first
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  Speaker 2: term or second term, he'll meet with anyone, anywhere to
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  Speaker 2: negotiate a deal. And he also, as you mentioned, the
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  Speaker 2: guest list, this was a who's who to show strength.
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  Speaker 2: You had in the banking industry, for example, Jamie Dimon,
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  Speaker 2: JPMorgan Chase, who's there. You've got Elon Musk and that
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  Speaker 2: team there. You've got all these AI people in those sectors.
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  Speaker 2: So whether it is launching satellites or AI or the
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  Speaker 2: banking world, the president made it clear at this state dinner,
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  Speaker 2: he wanted China to see what America has on our
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  Speaker 2: side and and what they're up against. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: China did not have a bunch of CEOs there on
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  Speaker 2: their side at all.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I will say that the perspective of much
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  Speaker 3: of the world has changed on China significantly. You know,
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  Speaker 3: when I was first elected to the Senate 14 years ago,
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  Speaker 3: I was saying then that the contest with China was
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  Speaker 3: the most important battle we had for the next century.
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  Speaker 3: That was a really lonely position at the time. There
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  Speaker 3: was virtually nobody in Washington who agreed with me. the
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  Speaker 3: Democrats all disagreed. They all wanted to get in bed
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  Speaker 3: with China. And at the time, most of the Republicans
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  Speaker 3: did too. They looked at China and they just saw
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  Speaker 3: dollar signs. They wanted to do business with China. It
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  Speaker 3: was all in. And what I've been advocating is that
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  Speaker 3: we need a comprehensive strategy, much like we did under
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  Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan dealing with the Soviet Union. Now, look, to
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  Speaker 3: be clear, Nobody in their right mind wants a shooting
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  Speaker 3: war with China. China is a nuclear superpower. They have
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  Speaker 3: a massive military. It would be very, very bad for America, very,
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  Speaker 3: very bad for China, and very bad for the world
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  Speaker 3: if we engaged in a full-on shooting war with China,
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  Speaker 3: just like it would have been very, very bad for
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  Speaker 3: America and the Soviet Union and the world if we'd
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  Speaker 3: engaged in a shooting war with them. When you have
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  Speaker 3: massive superpowers, each of whom has enough nuclear weapons to
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  Speaker 3: eradicate humanity... You really, really, really don't want those weapons used.
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  Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that you have no tools. It
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mean you roll over. And that toolkit... includes number one,
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  Speaker 3: the bully pulpit. It means calling out China for their culpability,
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  Speaker 3: holding them to account. And it means, number two, resisting them,
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  Speaker 3: resisting their espionage, resisting their propaganda, resisting their funding in
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  Speaker 3: the United States, resisting their investing in farmland and buying
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  Speaker 3: farmland near military bases, resisting in their expansion of Across
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  Speaker 3: the globe, China is engaged in what they call the
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  Speaker 3: Belt and Road Initiative, where they invest billions of dollars
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  Speaker 3: in Latin America, in Africa, throughout Asia, and it's all
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  Speaker 3: from China's perspective. They're waging a thousand-year war against the
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  Speaker 3: United States, and their objective is global domination. They're not
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  Speaker 3: confused about what they want. They want to dominate America economically, militarily, diplomatically.
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  Speaker 3: They want to dominate America across the globe, and... you know,
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  Speaker 3: I will say when Biden was president, the administration did
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  Speaker 3: not stand up to China. They were loathe to stand
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  Speaker 3: up to China. Trump has done far more so on trade.
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  Speaker 3: He's imposed tariffs and pressed back on China and trade.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, look, I am skeptical of tariffs, particularly
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  Speaker 3: tariffs staying in place on a permanent basis with respect
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  Speaker 3: to most countries that we trade with. But I think
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  Speaker 3: China is different. And I think de-linking our supply chain,
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  Speaker 3: particularly for critical infrastructure from China, is hugely, hugely important.
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  Speaker 3: And listen, I'm glad that Trump had our tech leaders there.
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  Speaker 3: Now listen, big tech has a host of sins, a
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  Speaker 3: host of things they've done that I think were wrong,
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  Speaker 3: that we need to work to hold them accountable to
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  Speaker 3: the American people. But The question of who wins the
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  Speaker 3: race for AI. Yeah. America or China is, I believe,
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  Speaker 3: the most important economic question facing America. The answer to
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  Speaker 3: that will dictate trillions of dollars in new investment and
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  Speaker 3: millions of new jobs. If we lose to China, we
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  Speaker 3: will see millions of high-paying jobs go to China. And
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  Speaker 3: even more importantly, Whatever country wins the race for AI,
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  Speaker 3: their values are going to dominate AI. So if you
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  Speaker 3: want the values of the Chinese Communist Party, espionage, surveillance, propaganda, control,
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  Speaker 3: AI used as a tool of the government to control you,
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  Speaker 3: then you're good with China winning the race for AI.
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  Speaker 3: If you want American values of free speech and individual
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  Speaker 3: freedom and free enterprise to dictate AI.
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  Speaker 3: Then you want America to win the race for AI.
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  Speaker 3: So the stakes are high and having those tech CEOs
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  Speaker 3: there was very much a show of strength because right
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  Speaker 3: now America is winning. And that's one of the reasons
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  Speaker 3: why China is investing real money in pushing anti-AI and
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  Speaker 3: anti-data center propaganda, because they're trying to get the easiest
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  Speaker 3: way for Xi to win this race is is to
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  Speaker 3: convince America to unilaterally disarm, to handcuff ourselves and hand
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  Speaker 3: world leadership of AI over to China, I think that
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  Speaker 3: would be a massive mistake.
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  Speaker 2: Senator, I want to get back into this conversation we
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  Speaker 2: were having a moment ago about China. Obviously, the state
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  Speaker 2: dinner was very interesting and there was a lot of
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  Speaker 2: politics playing out there. But I was talking to one
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  Speaker 2: of our good friends, Larry Kudlow, on his show on Fox,
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  Speaker 2: and we were going through the list of all the
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  Speaker 2: big topics that the president was probably going to be
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  Speaker 2: talking about with the leader of China. It is a
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  Speaker 2: long list. It's an important list. Everything from AI to
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  Speaker 2: fentanyl to Taiwan. I mean, there is a lot that
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  Speaker 2: they were going to be hashing out, is my guess.
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  Speaker 3: So there are a lot of topics that I'm certain
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  Speaker 3: were on the agenda. I think front and center was
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  Speaker 3: China's assistance to Iran and China's willingness, number one, to
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  Speaker 3: purchase Iranian oil, number two, to provide military equipment that
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  Speaker 3: is restocking Iran. Obviously, we've had ongoing military conflict with
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  Speaker 3: Iran for a number of months, and China has played
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  Speaker 3: an important role resupplying Iran. And so I am quite
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  Speaker 3: confident that the president pressed hard on Xi to stop
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  Speaker 3: bailing out Iran, to enhance the pressure of the economic
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  Speaker 3: blockade that President Trump has in place on Iran. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm hoping.
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  Speaker 5: the cheap oil.
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  Speaker 2: That was one of the things that was propping up Iran.
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  Speaker 2: And people may not realize... just how much Iranian oil
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  Speaker 2: was going directly to China that they, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: desperately need. But they were able to get it at
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  Speaker 2: a discount. That was one of the reasons why many
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  Speaker 2: believe they were helping Iran. And there was even this
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  Speaker 2: big controversy this last week over those satellite pictures that
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  Speaker 2: may have been used in another country to target an
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  Speaker 2: American military base.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, at its peak under Joe Biden, Iran was
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  Speaker 3: selling and producing and selling two million barrels a day
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  Speaker 3: of oil. most of which was going to China. And
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  Speaker 3: that flowed over $ 100 billion to the Ayatollah. That was
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  Speaker 3: as a result of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris refusing
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  Speaker 3: to enforce Iran sanctions. And so leaning into China to
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  Speaker 3: get them to stop assisting Iran is, I think, very important.
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  Speaker 3: I also hope and believe that President Trump raised prisoners
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  Speaker 3: wrongly detained in China. One of them, is Jimmy Lai.
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  Speaker 3: So Jimmy Lai is a democracy dissident. He is from
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  Speaker 3: Hong Kong. He was a media mogul, a newspaper man
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  Speaker 3: who's been incredibly courageous speaking up for human rights, speaking
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  Speaker 3: up against Chinese communist oppression. And what did the Chinese
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  Speaker 3: communist government do? They locked him in jail. He has
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  Speaker 3: been in jail for six years. He's been in solitary
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  Speaker 3: confinement for much of that time. Jimmy Lai is 78
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  Speaker 3: years old. His health is failing. I met last week
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  Speaker 3: with Sebastian Lai, who is Jimmy's son, and publicly called
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  Speaker 3: on the administration to do everything they can to secure
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy Lai's release. But, you know, back in 2019, when
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  Speaker 3: I traveled to Hong Kong to stand in support with
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  Speaker 3: the dissidents there who were standing up to Chinese communist oppression,
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  Speaker 3: I met with Jimmy Lai in 2019, and he had
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  Speaker 3: a lot of courage then. He had amassed a lot
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  Speaker 3: of wealth, and he was risking it all by standing
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  Speaker 3: up to the Chinese Communist Party. And I will say,
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  Speaker 3: particularly now, there's a powerful humanitarian case. Look, China arrested
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  Speaker 3: him on trumped-up charges. They basically invented a law so
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  Speaker 3: they could throw Jimmy Lai in jail because he's been
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  Speaker 3: such an effective voice against the Chinese oppression. But Jimmy
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  Speaker 3: Lai's daughter right now has cancer, and so she's publicly
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  Speaker 3: called on a humanitarian release of her husband. I hope
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  Speaker 3: President Trump leaned in. He has raised Jimmy Lai with
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  Speaker 3: the Chinese before, and I hope he did this time
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  Speaker 3: as well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you talk about that's one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that this administration has really, really focused on, and.
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  Speaker 4: That is people.
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  Speaker 2: that are being held against their will inappropriately by regimes,
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  Speaker 2: also hostages, American hostages. They've had great success. You've been
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  Speaker 2: involved in quite a few of those cases. That's one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that I do think is going to
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  Speaker 2: be part of Trump's legacy. is how much he made
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  Speaker 2: sure that either standing up on issues like this or
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  Speaker 2: getting Americans back that are being held around the world,
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  Speaker 2: and again, that's something that's part of your legacy as well, Senator.
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  Speaker 2: You've really focused on that significantly while you've been in
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  Speaker 2: the Senate, and you guys have that in common very
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  Speaker 2: much so.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've spent a lot of time focusing on dissidents
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  Speaker 3: and championing dissidents. If you look at China, Mark Sudan,
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  Speaker 3: who was an American citizen, he was a Texan, and
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  Speaker 3: he was wrongfully detained for... roughly a decade in China. And,
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  Speaker 3: and I twice authored bipartisan resolutions, uh, calling for Mark
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  Speaker 3: Swidan's release that passed the Senate unanimously. And I repeatedly
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  Speaker 3: raised it directly with the Chinese government. I repeatedly raised
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  Speaker 3: it with the Biden administration, with the Trump administration, urging
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  Speaker 3: them to make it a priority to release Mark Swidan.
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  Speaker 3: I talked with his mother who lives in Texas multiple
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  Speaker 3: times and, and, Joe Biden was not able to get
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  Speaker 3: that done, but President Trump leaned in and secured Mark
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  Speaker 3: Swidan's release. And I actually met with Mark when he
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  Speaker 3: came back to America after a decade in horrific conditions
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  Speaker 3: in a Chinese jail. And, you know, there is a
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  Speaker 3: power to speaking out for dissidents. It's one of the
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  Speaker 3: things tyrannies fear dissidents. And so I have spoken out
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  Speaker 3: for dissidents all over the world. that are unjustly held
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  Speaker 3: by tyrannies and tyrants. You know, one example back in
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  Speaker 3: the Obama administration was a woman named Miriam Ibrahim, who
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  Speaker 3: was wrongfully imprisoned in Sudan. She was sentenced to 100
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  Speaker 3: lashes and to hang by the neck until dead for
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  Speaker 3: the crime of being a Christian. That was her offense.
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  Speaker 3: She was a Christian, and the government of Sudan demanded
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  Speaker 3: she either denounce Jesus or they would torture and murder her.
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  Speaker 3: And I repeatedly went to the Senate floor. I spoke
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  Speaker 3: out on her behalf. I begged Obama to say her name.
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  Speaker 3: He would not utter her name. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: Miriam is a young mom. She had a daughter, Maya,
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  Speaker 3: and a little baby boy, Martin, who was born in prison,
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  Speaker 3: literally while she was in leg irons in the dirt
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  Speaker 3: in prison. And even though Obama would not lean in,
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  Speaker 3: ultimately there was enough international pressure that Sudan gave in.
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  Speaker 3: And they released her, and I got to meet her
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  Speaker 3: when she came to America. Her husband's an American. And
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  Speaker 3: I met with her, and I asked her, look, when
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  Speaker 3: you were in that dark prison, and they were threatening
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  Speaker 3: to murder you, and you were there with your babies,
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  Speaker 3: how did you not give up? And she looked at
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  Speaker 3: me with this incredible peace, and she just said, Jesus
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  Speaker 3: was with me. And it really, it's powerful. It's one
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  Speaker 3: of the reasons I spend so much time highlighting dissidents,
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  Speaker 3: because it's powerful. as a tool to fight back against tyranny.
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  Speaker 2: You know, not everybody is rooting for people to be
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  Speaker 2: released that are being held in China. A great example
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  Speaker 2: of that is a guy by the name of Hassan Piker.
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  Speaker 2: Democrats are hoping this guy will just take a really
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  Speaker 2: long sabbatical from saying crazy things, but he's not doing
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  Speaker 2: that at all.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Hassan Piker is one of the most important champions
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  Speaker 3: and surrogates who's campaigning with Democrats all across the country.
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  Speaker 3: And Democrats are embracing him. They're proud to stand with him.
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  Speaker 3: And Assange Piker is an America-hating communist. He is an Islamist.
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  Speaker 3: This is the same radical who says America deserved 9-11.
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  Speaker 3: He campaigned repeatedly with Abdul Al-Sayed, the Democrat nominee in Michigan, who,
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  Speaker 3: like Piker, is an Islamist and a Marxist and an America-hater.
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  Speaker 3: And No matter how extreme Hassan Piker gets, the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: are unwilling to distance themselves from him. And indeed, Abdul,
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  Speaker 3: I'll say it, continues to embrace this guy. I want
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  Speaker 3: you to listen to what Hassan Piker is saying right
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  Speaker 3: now he wants to do if he's in power.
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  Speaker 6: Give a listen. I will throw you in prison. Okay.
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  Speaker 6: I want to put you physically behind a prison. I
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  Speaker 6: want Chinese style communism to happen inside of the democratic
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  Speaker 6: party right now.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: I want to do cultural revolution when I see that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll give them this. The timing is really
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  Speaker 2: nice with China coming to town. It's almost like you
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  Speaker 2: should say today's show brought to you by the Chinese
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  Speaker 2: communist party.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I, I will give him credit for one thing, honesty.
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  Speaker 3: That is, in fact, what he wants to do. And
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  Speaker 3: he says he wants Chinese-style communism. He wants gulags. He
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  Speaker 3: wants to throw people in prison. He wants cultural revolution. Look,
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  Speaker 3: there are right now... more than one million people in
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  Speaker 3: concentration camps in China's Uyghurs, which is a religious minority.
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  Speaker 3: In those concentration camps, they do horrific things. The Fulong Gong,
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  Speaker 3: which is another religious minority, they do organ harvesting. The
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  Speaker 3: Chinese communist government forcibly takes their organs to transplant in
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  Speaker 3: other people. It is horrific. They torture people. They murder people.
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  Speaker 3: And Hassan Piker... is calling for that. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: he's calling for that within the Democrat Party. If you
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  Speaker 3: listen to what he was saying there, he's not even, look,
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  Speaker 3: he clearly wants to do it to us, to Republicans,
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  Speaker 3: but he's saying, if you are not a full-on Marxist,
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  Speaker 3: if you are not a full-on Islamist in the Democrat Party,
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  Speaker 3: that's what he wants to do to his fellow Democrats.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when I say there's a hostile takeover of
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  Speaker 3: the Democrat Party, look, there's a reason that my Democrat
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  Speaker 3: colleagues are terrified of this guy. And I want to
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  Speaker 3: listen to this clip also of Mao Zedong. It's actually
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  Speaker 3: of Hasan Piker talking about Mao. Give a listen.
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  Speaker 5: Mao Zedong is one of the great leaders of this world, okay?
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  Speaker 5: A man who changed the entire universe, the entire planet, okay?
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  Speaker 6: For real, for real, yes.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there was a lot of f * * *
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  Speaker 5: ing excesses, let's be real, but the People's Republic of
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  Speaker 5: China would not exist without Mao Zedong.
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  Speaker 2: Senator, I gotta say, I mean, when you go all
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  Speaker 2: in for this style of communism and you're the leaving
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  Speaker 2: surrogate of the Democratic Party, it should wake up a
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  Speaker 2: few Americans that this is what they really want.
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  Speaker 3: Look, Mao is one of the most evil human beings
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  Speaker 3: to have ever lived. He was a monster.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, can you just explain a little bit
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: behind that? Because a lot of people, they think monster.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: They're like, well, okay, there's Adolf Hitler and then there's others.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know of monsters, honestly, in
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: history outside truly of Hitler.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Well, Mao was responsible for over 30 million who died
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: during the Great Leap Forward famine. He was responsible for
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: at least two and a half million who were beaten
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: or tortured to death. He was responsible for more than
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: 722,000 people who were executed in the campaign to suppress counter-revolutionaries.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: He was responsible for between 1.1 million and 1.6 million
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: who died in the Cultural Revolution. Assange Piker is saying,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I want a Cultural Revolution. That took between 1.1 and
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: 1.6 million lives, people who were murdered. And he was
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: responsible for tens of millions of people who were subject
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: to political persecution. with Christians. Mao had a particular hatred
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: for Christians. He would literally drive two and three inch
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: nails into the eyeballs of Christians. That's how he would
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: murder Christians, with a hammer and nails. And what is
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Hasan Piker? Says he's one of the great leaders of
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: the world. Look, you mentioned Hitler. Look, Hasan Piker... He's
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: cheering on Mao. I assume he cheers on Stalin. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: assume he cheers on Hitler. Mass murderers. He is telling
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: you he is in favor of mass murder. He is
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: in favor of oppression. And Abdul Al-Said stands happily beside
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: him and said, yep, that's my guy. And to be clear,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Al-Said does not win the Democrat nomination in Michigan without
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Hassan Piker. He is directly responsible. For Al-Said being the nominee,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: and if you... Look, this is something I take very seriously. Communism,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I believe, is the most evil doctrine humanity has ever produced.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: It is responsible for more death, more suffering, more poverty,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: more torture, more misery than any other ideology mankind has
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: ever produced. And just between Mao and Stalin, They are
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: the two human beings who have lived who have killed
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: the most people. Hitler was evil and embodied evil, but
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: in terms of death toll, both Mao and Stalin killed
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: many more people than Hitler did. And then you throw
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: in Pol Pot in Cambodia who killed millions as well.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: You do Castro in Cuba. You do Nicaragua. You do
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: North Korea. You do Venezuela. Every country that has had communism.
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  Speaker 3: The result is murder, it's imprisonment, it's torture, it's oppression.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: And that is what Hassan Piker is saying, not just
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: that he supports it there. I want to play again
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  Speaker 3: what he wants here in America. I want to play
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: just his words once again. This is one of the
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  Speaker 3: leading surrogates for Democrats running for Senate right now today
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: in 2026. Listen to him again what Hassan Piker wants.
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  Speaker 6: I will throw you in prison. OK, I want to
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: put you physically behind a prison. I want Chinese style
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: communism to happen inside of the Democratic Party right now. OK,
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: I want to do cultural revolution when I see that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: By the way, I do think it's interesting as we
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: play that for the second time, Senator. You know, you
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: look at this past week and the warnings coming from
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party saying, or the promise to their voters
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that if you'll just give us back control of the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: House or the Senate or both, we're going to weaponize
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: our government and we're going to go after Donald Trump.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: We're going to go after his cabinet members. We're going
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: to go after his donors. We're going to go after
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: his family members. Like, we want to put people in jail.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: It sounds an awful lot like what he's saying he
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: also wants to do, if you think about it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, under Joe Biden, we saw the Department of Justice.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: We saw the FBI. We saw the federal government weaponized
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: to attack the president's political opponents. and I believe should
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: these radicals get power again, it will be substantially worse.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: These zealots are embracing, he is telling you he wants
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: to oppress you, he wants to strip away your rights,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: strip away your civil liberties. Look, when he wants cultural
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: revolution stuff, he is literally talking about murdering his opponents,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: and Abdul Al-Sayed steadfastly refuses to distance himself, refuses to
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: denounce the evil that Hassan Piker... This is not a
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: comment he made years and years ago. This is what
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: he's saying right now. This is who Piker is. By
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: the way, young people on the left, these DSA communists,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: cheer Hassan Piker like he's Mick Jagger, like he's a
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: rock star.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, imagine China. I mean, if they're in America,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: you know, looking at what we're saying here on their visit,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: this is not just music to the ear. This is
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: like straight up propaganda from them.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: This is what's taking over the Democrat party. And by
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the way, Abdul Al-Sayed, he believes the same things. Listen
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: to Abdul Al-Sayed's sister talking about what her brother believes.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Hey, just want to say thank you for everything you said.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: I also, my nephew just.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Started going to U of M.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: And I got him actually doing.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: That before Abdul.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, amazing.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: You got super, like, sketchy about it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: It's the whole, you know, like, I'm a capitalist.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, like, don't worry about that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Abdul is not a.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all we care about is the policies.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: At this point. Are you a socialist?
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: I'm not. I'm a capitalist. Are you a socialist? I'm not.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: I'm a capitalist. Are you a socialist? I'm not. I'm
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: a capitalist.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how much they'll just lie straight to your
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: face just to hope they win this election, even though
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: it's very clear what they believe.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Well, as his sister said, all they care about is
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: the policy. So he's going to lie and claim now
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: that he's a capitalist. But it's very clear, as she
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: was willing to reassure this this pretend supporter that he's
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: not a capitalist. It's just about the policies. And listen,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: he stands with Assange Piker who wants to throw us
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: all in jail and he wants Chairman Mao's cultural revolution
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: here in America.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Senator, I want to get into another issue, and that
• 26:16
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• 26:19
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, I think the two most dangerous and the
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: most radical and extreme candidates in the country are Abdul
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: El-Sayed and James Tallarico. They are both Democrat nominees in
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  Speaker 3: Michigan and Texas, respectively. And they're both extreme. Now, they're
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  Speaker 3: in particular, he tries very hard to claim that he's
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  Speaker 3: a moderate. And the big thing he tries to do
• 28:50
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  Speaker 3: particularly for a voter not paying attention, they say, well, gosh,
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  Speaker 3: if he's a minister, I mean, if he's a Christian,
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  Speaker 3: that's great. He can't be that extreme. And I will say...
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: every week more facts about his record about his saying
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: god is non-binary about his saying there's six different genders
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: about his saying he wants to welcome matt on the
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  Speaker 3: southern border to welcome illegal immigrants about his saying he
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: wants to dismantle capitalism about his saying he's a quote
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: christian who hates christianity he's on on video saying that
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: as well but not only that the church that he
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  Speaker 3: has attended for many, many years is a church in
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Austin that is more radical than any church I have
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: ever seen. And one of the senior pastors there is
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: this woman who's a lesbian who was caught on undercover film. Now, look,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I am reluctant to question someone else's faith. That is
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: not for me to do. That is a question for
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: God to judge. But I will say, if you say
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: you're a Christian, the absolute heart of Christianity, the Gospels,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: you can actually find it in John 3.16. For God
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: that whoever believes in him shall not perish. but have
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: everlasting life. That is the essence of Christianity, that Jesus came,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: died on the cross for our sins, and that if
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: we accept his forgiveness, if we accept his salvations, our
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: sins will be forgiven. All of the rest of it,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: you can have doctrinal disputes, but that's the absolute heart
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: of what it means to be a Christian. Now, I
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: want you to listen to James Tallarico's pastor and what
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: she and the folks at their church believe.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Do we really believe that a virgin gave birth to
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: a baby? Yeah, okay. I just don't want to offend
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: my own common sense. Yeah, no, don't.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Absolutely don't.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Part of what we encourage here is for people to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: think for themselves.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: And take what makes sense. It's kind of like what
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: they say in 12-step programs. Take what you want and
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: leave the rest. And I know that that would greatly
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: offend your relatives who.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Want to hang on to these archaic rules.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Mary and the virgin birth comes out of the pagan
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: belief that the gods came down and impregnated people, that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: People were still hanging on to.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: During that time, we have no way of knowing if
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Jesus really existed any more than we have of knowing
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: that the original Buddha ever existed. And whether or not
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Jesus existed doesn't really matter to me. The fact remains
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: that that message that was delivered by someone named Jesus, supposedly,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and it could have all been made up for all
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: And the God in the Old Testament is not a
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: loving God. It's a vengeful, killing people kind of God.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: This is a lot of mythology. Jesus was political. Jesus
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: was put.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: On that cross not to save us. Jesus was put
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: on that cross because Rome hated him. And they thought
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: he was a threat to their domination of that area.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: And so they killed him. He didn't die to save
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: our sins. So he died more as a kind of
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: a social justice warrior at some point. Yes.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: So that makes a whole lot more sense to me
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: than to say that some God would kill his son
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: for us.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense. How does that make up for
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: all the things I can do? No, it doesn't.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: So look, that is a whole lot of things, but
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: that is not Christianity. When a supposed Christian pastor says,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: whether or not Jesus existed doesn't matter to me.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: When she says... that it makes no sense that God
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: would send his son to die for our sins. That
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: is what it means to be a Christian. You could have, look,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: there are doctrinal disputes. Is baptism dunking or sprinkling? Okay, fine.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: People can disagree about that stuff. But if you reject
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: the heart of the gospel, you don't even care if
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Jesus existed, You may be a left-wing philosopher, you may
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: be a left-wing radical activist, but what you are not
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: is a Christian. And that is the world from which
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: James Tallarico comes, and we have every reason to believe
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: that that reflects his belief as well.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: It is shocking. And that video and audio there, I
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: hope everybody listening will share it wherever you can on
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: social media. It's important to get out there to know
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: who James Tallarico actually is and what he believes. This
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: is what he believes. This is his pastor. This is
• 34:16
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