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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
- 0:05Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
- 0:08Speaker 1: Radio 92.5 and on the Altitude Sports Radio app.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Hey, you know how athletes, coaches, executives, they give us
- 0:25Speaker 2: the same line. And by us, I mean sports media people.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Always say something along the lines of this.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Guys, I don't read.
- 0:35Speaker 2: I don't watch. I don't listen to anything that you
- 0:38Speaker 2: guys do. You guys are nothing. You're a pimple on
- 0:41Speaker 2: my butt cheek. I don't think about you. I don't
- 0:45Speaker 2: do anything. Anything you say makes no difference to me whatsoever.
- 0:50Speaker 4: You know that's not true.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Unless you're Jeff Schwartz, who's filling in on First Things First,
- 0:56Speaker 2: Nick Wright Show, and you talk about Bo Nix. Because
- 0:58Speaker 2: then Sean Payton will respond in a tweet to the
- 1:01Speaker 2: things that you have said online. And if you guys
- 1:05Speaker 2: missed it, this is what, let's start with first what
- 1:08Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz said about Bo Nix. Now remember, Jeff Schwartz
- 1:11Speaker 2: is someone, I've heard him before on Fox National when
- 1:15Speaker 2: our local shows aren't on, stuff like that. He fills
- 1:17Speaker 2: in occasionally. I've seen him on TV. I don't think
- 1:21Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz is a dummy. I think he's a sharp
- 1:24Speaker 2: enough guy. He's a former Oregon guy. player so he
- 1:29Speaker 2: watches all the Oregon games that Bo Nix has played
- 1:31Speaker 2: in he said so he played in the league played
- 1:33Speaker 2: in the league and they asked him do you think
- 1:37Speaker 2: Bo Nix takes a step forward or a step back
- 1:40Speaker 2: this year this is what he said.
- 1:41Speaker 5: With those two presented to me I would say step
- 1:43Speaker 5: back but I do think he just is what he
- 1:45Speaker 5: is at this point he looks like the same quarterback
- 1:46Speaker 5: he was in college I watched every one of his
- 1:48Speaker 5: snaps at Oregon he looks exactly the same guy in
- 1:51Speaker 5: in Denver he's He's consistent, right? He's not going to
- 1:53Speaker 5: make mistakes, as coach said, but he's not going to
- 1:55Speaker 5: push the ball down the field all that often, right?
- 1:57Speaker 5: We know his air yards was short. His sort of
- 2:00Speaker 5: advanced stats kind of put him right in the middle
- 2:01Speaker 5: of the NFL. He gets a bump up because he
- 2:03Speaker 5: can run the ball, which is great in certain situations
- 2:05Speaker 5: for them. You know, Sean Payne needs to get him
- 2:07Speaker 5: to throw the ball in between the hashes, and he
- 2:09Speaker 5: was Fifth worst, the NFL just completes percentage in the
- 2:12Speaker 5: middle of the hashes. Like, there's things to work on.
- 2:14Speaker 5: But the sort of the issues that— issues is the wrong
- 2:16Speaker 5: word to say. It's what he was in college. He
- 2:18Speaker 5: didn't throw a ball a ton between the hashes in college, right?
- 2:20Speaker 5: If it was, it was very far deep down the field.
- 2:23Speaker 5: And so this is what he is. And they built
- 2:24Speaker 5: the offense. I give Sean Payton credit. They built the
- 2:26Speaker 5: offense around what he can do, what he can't do. Like,
- 2:29Speaker 5: they do a really good job of maximizing his talents.
- 2:32Speaker 5: So if I had to pick one or the other,
- 2:33Speaker 5: I would say probably— Back is the wrong way to
- 2:36Speaker 5: put it. I don't think Coach is going to become
- 2:39Speaker 5: a pro-ball or all-pro type player. I think he sort
- 2:41Speaker 5: of is what he is. He's very steady. He's good
- 2:43Speaker 5: at certain things. He's got to get better at certain things.
- 2:45Speaker 5: But he's also just kind of, I think he's set
- 2:47Speaker 5: at what he's going to be.
- 2:48Speaker 3: In the NFL.
- 2:49Speaker 2: So, he just thinks sort of this is what Bo
- 2:52Speaker 2: Nix is. That's what he's always going to be. Okay, fine.
- 2:56Speaker 2: There's two things to that, though. They clipped that and
- 2:59Speaker 2: they put that out on Twitter from the First Things
- 3:00Speaker 2: First account. He got community noted, which is, I think,
- 3:06Speaker 2: we need to have that happen more in sports media,
- 3:08Speaker 2: by the way. I want, Vic, ever since I saw that,
- 3:13Speaker 2: Nelly puts out a clip from our show every day, Moj.
- 3:16Speaker 2: When I go home at night and I see that
- 3:17Speaker 2: clip come out, I want to be nervous. That community
- 3:20Speaker 2: note's coming for me.
- 3:21Speaker 6: Make sure you're not community noted. Moj is going to
- 3:24Speaker 6: be community noted for his appearance today. For whatever you're
- 3:27Speaker 6: doing with that bucket hat, I'm not working for you.
- 3:30Speaker 3: In fact, what was that rule we just had? In
- 3:32Speaker 3: place yesterday?
- 3:33Speaker 2: Well, it's the mouth fart corner, but he hasn't spoken.
- 3:36Speaker 6: All right, you can't speak until that's... We're just not doing... Listen,
- 3:41Speaker 6: we're not doing this today. It's an important day.
- 3:43Speaker 3: It's a Friday.
- 3:44Speaker 6: Bronco Friday. We're not doing these games with you today.
- 3:49Speaker 6: Games aren't going to be played on this show under
- 3:51Speaker 6: my watch today.
- 3:53Speaker 2: So hang on a second. The community note underneath that said...
- 3:57Speaker 2: Bo Nix has thrown the most deep touchdown passes of
- 4:01Speaker 2: 20-plus air yards since the start of the 2024 season.
- 4:04Speaker 2: He has 19, including the postseason. First of all, did
- 4:07Speaker 2: that stat surprise you, the community note? Did that surprise you?
- 4:11Speaker 6: Well, I don't know who's in charge of community notes.
- 4:14Speaker 6: Is that like Wikipedia?
- 4:15Speaker 2: Is that like a... I'm sure there's like a team
- 4:18Speaker 2: of people that fact-check some things.
- 4:19Speaker 6: Okay.
- 4:20Speaker 4: Do you have to contact X to get a community note?
- 4:24Speaker 3: I mean, does somebody have to.
- 4:25Speaker 4: Call him and say... Well, maybe.
- 4:26Speaker 3: Maybe.
- 4:27Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not sure how that works.
- 4:29Speaker 3: But it is.
- 4:30Speaker 6: Funny when you get community noted and then you get
- 4:33Speaker 6: Sean Payton noted.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Well, Sean Payton responded to it saying, always easy to
- 4:39Speaker 2: tell who works at it and who doesn't. Talking about analysts.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Too fronted on this. We talked about
- 4:49Speaker 2: this earlier this week. Bo Nix seems to have these
- 4:52Speaker 2: people that are like, all he does is dump the
- 4:54Speaker 2: ball off. And then he has people that are like,
- 4:57Speaker 2: this guy throws the ball deep all the time.
- 4:58Speaker 3: I'm like, it's neither.
- 4:59Speaker 4: Polar opposites on him.
- 5:02Speaker 2: It's in the middle. We're in the middle here. Would
- 5:05Speaker 2: you guys say that Jeff Schwartz is right about one thing?
- 5:08Speaker 2: He does not use, at least in the first two years,
- 5:11Speaker 2: hasn't really used the middle of the field all that much.
- 5:13Speaker 6: That was obviously an issue his rookie year.
- 5:17Speaker 4: Remember?
- 5:17Speaker 3: We talked about that his rookie year. Well, mostly his
- 5:20Speaker 3: rookie year, they did not allow him Maybe as much
- 5:25Speaker 3: as he wants or as much as I would have liked,
- 5:27Speaker 3: excuse me, to send the ball downfield. That's an absolute fact.
- 5:33Speaker 3: So the middle of the field, okay, fine, sure, out stuff,
- 5:36Speaker 3: that's great. But they didn't allow him to go deep
- 5:39Speaker 3: a lot.
- 5:41Speaker 2: But he has.
- 5:42Speaker 3: No, he has and he can.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Again, that stat, it's not from last year. That's since
- 5:48Speaker 2: his rookie season in 2024. He's got the most touchdown
- 5:51Speaker 2: passes of 20-plus air yards. That's not a small number,
- 5:54Speaker 2: by the way. Air yards, 20-plus downfield. I mean, you're
- 5:59Speaker 2: pushing it. I think his big problem is the intermediate routes.
- 6:02Speaker 2: He just doesn't seem to find all that much. It
- 6:05Speaker 2: is a lot of either underneath or we're going over
- 6:08Speaker 2: the top. But it's funny. The other thought that I
- 6:13Speaker 2: had was, I think Sean Payton kind of misses the media,
- 6:16Speaker 2: doesn't he? He kind of misses being able to mix
- 6:21Speaker 2: it up, analyze things without having the, I have to
- 6:25Speaker 2: do a little bit of coach speaks, just say what's
- 6:27Speaker 2: on my mind.
- 6:28Speaker 3: Probably, but he's also defending his guy. Yes.
- 6:32Speaker 6: It says here, users of X are allowed to add
- 6:35Speaker 6: community notes if they have a history of rating community
- 6:39Speaker 6: notes over a period of time.
- 6:41Speaker 1: What?
- 6:41Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 6:42Speaker 3: I don't.
- 6:43Speaker 6: I don't partake in HOA meetings, so I don't know
- 6:47Speaker 6: what– that's like an HOA meeting to me. I'm just
- 6:52Speaker 6: not doing it.
- 6:52Speaker 2: That's actually a good comparison. I wouldn't do that either.
- 6:54Speaker 2: I'm not– I'm just– you know how– Look, this is
- 6:57Speaker 2: how I see a tweet. A tweet's like a lawn
- 6:58Speaker 2: to me. Sometimes I see terrible tweets, like I see
- 7:00Speaker 2: terrible lawns. I'm like, I would hate to have that lawn.
- 7:03Speaker 2: I mean, that seems ridiculous.
- 7:04Speaker 3: I wish I were more– I would never tell.
- 7:06Speaker 6: Listen, I'm going to be honest with you. I wish
- 7:09Speaker 6: I were more community-minded when it comes to that stuff.
- 7:13Speaker 4: I'm not going to.
- 7:14Speaker 6: Do your polls after service, after a call, whatever.
- 7:17Speaker 4: I'm not doing it.
- 7:18Speaker 3: No.
- 7:18Speaker 4: I'm not doing it.
- 7:19Speaker 6: Like my health insurance keeps sending me health insurance. Hey,
- 7:22Speaker 6: how was your trip to the doctor?
- 7:24Speaker 4: I'm not going to answer you. I'm not doing this.
- 7:26Speaker 6: All right, thank you.
- 7:27Speaker 2: If you could just stick around for a quick survey,
- 7:29Speaker 2: it'll take less than 60 seconds.
- 7:30Speaker 3: It's like, click. No, no, no, no, no, no. Or
- 7:33Speaker 3: how about at the beginning of the call? Hello, welcome
- 7:35Speaker 3: to so-and-so.
- 7:36Speaker 4: Just wondering if you'd mind doing a survey afterwards.
- 7:39Speaker 3: Not really.
- 7:40Speaker 2: There are like three apps that I use all the
- 7:42Speaker 2: time on my phone, and I'll get those in the
- 7:43Speaker 2: middle of it. Are you enjoying the MyFitnessPal app? I
- 7:46Speaker 2: was like, I'm not rating this right now.
- 7:49Speaker 3: No. My golf course sent me an email. How was
- 7:53Speaker 3: your experience? Well, how was it? Oh, it sucked. No,
- 8:02Speaker 3: I mean, it was fine. What are you doing?
- 8:06Speaker 6: I don't understand it, but people do it. And they're
- 8:09Speaker 6: the ones in charge of community notes.
- 8:11Speaker 4: So thank you, people.
- 8:14Speaker 2: I just saw somebody on Twitter had this little skit.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Do you even know what a write-off is?
- 8:21Speaker 2: A tax write-off?
- 8:22Speaker 3: No, do you?
- 8:24Speaker 2: No.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Well, they do. And they're the ones writing it off.
- 8:29Speaker 2: This reminds me, I saw this skit, this guy on Twitter.
- 8:33Speaker 2: He goes, this is how people got jobs in their 50s.
- 8:36Speaker 2: He just picked up a piece of trash that was
- 8:38Speaker 2: lying on the ground and threw it away. He goes, hey, kid,
- 8:41Speaker 2: why'd you pick up that trash? Well, you know, I
- 8:44Speaker 2: just didn't want trash in the middle of the sidewalk.
- 8:45Speaker 2: I like your moxie, kid. You got yourself a job. Now, look, again,
- 8:52Speaker 2: do you think Sean Payton, here's what I want to imagine.
- 8:57Speaker 2: You guys give me how this went down with Sean Payton.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Was he straight? sitting in his office, scrolling on his phone,
- 9:03Speaker 2: came across a video that said Bo Nix something something
- 9:06Speaker 2: from Fox, and he goes, let me watch this. And
- 9:09Speaker 2: then when he watched it, he was like, all right,
- 9:11Speaker 2: this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, and responded.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Did somebody show this to him? How did this come
- 9:15Speaker 2: across Sean Payton, this video of Jeff Schwartz?
- 9:18Speaker 3: Somebody gave it to him. I'm sure an assistant coach,
- 9:21Speaker 3: somebody run the team, somebody trust. Maybe his daughter goes, hey,
- 9:25Speaker 3: look at this guy's talking about this.
- 9:27Speaker 4: You don't think they.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Talk about stuff like this?
- 9:29Speaker 6: I don't think he's actively looking for it. I don't
- 9:31Speaker 6: think he's out there shopping around for hot takes. Hold
- 9:35Speaker 6: on a second.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Stop. Nelly, start out with the Schwartz again, please, if
- 9:40Speaker 3: you would. This is important. I've got something to say.
- 9:44Speaker 5: With those two presented to me, I would say step back.
- 9:47Speaker 5: But I do think he just is what he is
- 9:48Speaker 5: at this point. He looks like the same quarterback he
- 9:50Speaker 5: was in college. I watched every one of his snaps
- 9:51Speaker 5: at Oregon. He looks exactly the same guy in Denver.
- 9:55Speaker 5: He's consistent, right? He's not going to make mistakes, as
- 9:57Speaker 5: Coach said.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Stop, stop, stop, stop. What is so offensive about that?
- 10:04Speaker 3: Why is Sean Payton offended? No, no. Why is Chris?
- 10:08Speaker 2: It's not that.
- 10:08Speaker 3: Hold on. Why is Chris? You got this Chris guy
- 10:12Speaker 3: on the frigging... On the frigging text line. Bo Nix
- 10:15Speaker 3: has haters no matter what he does. Just ask Mosher.
- 10:17Speaker 3: He's one of them. I'm not a hater. Why are
- 10:20Speaker 3: you so offended, Chris? Where's your skin? Is it as
- 10:24Speaker 3: thin as like a titmouse? What's your problem?
- 10:27Speaker 2: A what mouse?
- 10:28Speaker 3: What mouse? A titmouse. Why is Sean... By the way, Nelly,
- 10:35Speaker 3: can you turn me up a little bit? Because I
- 10:37Speaker 3: feel like when I talk, I hear myself in Vic's mic.
- 10:40Speaker 3: Why is everybody so offended... It's a bird? by what
- 10:43Speaker 3: this guy said? It's a bird. Sorry? How thin is
- 10:54Speaker 3: a tit-nosed skin?
- 10:56Speaker 2: A tit-nosed skin, yeah.
- 11:00Speaker 4: Never seen one.
- 11:01Speaker 3: But now you have.
- 11:03Speaker 2: It's incredibly thin and semi-transparent.
- 11:06Speaker 6: That looks like the bird that was on that clothesline
- 11:09Speaker 6: many years ago.
- 11:12Speaker 3: You smoked a titmouse. What a jerk. I swear to God,
- 11:14Speaker 3: that looks just like it, man.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Thin skin.
- 11:17Speaker 3: I had memories. Thin skin. So did my analogy make
- 11:20Speaker 3: sense now?
- 11:20Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think you got hung up on the
- 11:22Speaker 2: wrong detail. There was nothing wrong with him saying he
- 11:24Speaker 2: doesn't make mistakes and that kind of stuff. There's something wrong.
- 11:27Speaker 2: And I think Sean Payton took offense to the fact
- 11:29Speaker 2: that he said, He doesn't throw the ball deep. That's
- 11:33Speaker 2: what he took offense to.
- 11:34Speaker 3: That's what he's offended by. Yes.
- 11:37Speaker 2: It's that he's... Because, look, what's the real translation there?
- 11:42Speaker 2: He doesn't throw the ball deep. Sean Payton's offense is boring.
- 11:45Speaker 3: Time out. Time out. Okay, so he's offended by that.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Time out. Let me give a compliment to Bo Nix.
- 11:51Speaker 2: All right?
- 11:53Speaker 3: Bo Nix came into the National Football League as ready
- 11:58Speaker 3: as any quarterback in the last... 50 years to play
- 12:01Speaker 3: professional football. He played a.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Well, that's not true.
- 12:04Speaker 3: He just played a lot. Yeah, he played a... Well,
- 12:06Speaker 3: hold on a second, Brett.
- 12:08Speaker 2: You want to say he's more prepared than Andrew Luck?
- 12:10Speaker 6: I mean.
- 12:10Speaker 3: Well, okay. As prepared. Maybe not more, but as. His
- 12:14Speaker 3: skill set, his ability, his brain, his experience, all of
- 12:20Speaker 3: that played right into him stepping in right away and
- 12:23Speaker 3: being a pro. And that's a compliment. So I hope
- 12:28Speaker 3: that people are taking this as a compliment. Why are
- 12:32Speaker 3: people offended? Is he the same player he was at Oregon? Maybe.
- 12:35Speaker 3: Is he a little bit better? Maybe. But he ain't
- 12:39Speaker 3: no Matt Stafford, so don't be offended by saying he's
- 12:42Speaker 3: not Matt Stafford. Stop it, people. You big titmouses.
- 12:48Speaker 4: Ty Simpson looked really good last night. Did you see
- 12:50Speaker 4: that kid?
- 12:51Speaker 2: He's looking good all preseason.
- 12:52Speaker 3: I think he looks solid, dude.
- 12:55Speaker 4: Looks like the game is not sped up for him either.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Why does Sean McVay seem offended by Ty Simpson doing well?
- 13:02Speaker 2: If you remember when he got drafted, remember Sean McVay's interview,
- 13:06Speaker 2: they drafted him 13th overall. They asked him, he's like, yeah,
- 13:09Speaker 2: you know, this is a Stafford's team.
- 13:10Speaker 6: Like it was just like, well, I just think he's
- 13:12Speaker 6: playing that fine line of not to offend the starting
- 13:14Speaker 6: quarterback who is the guy.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:17Speaker 6: And they want to make sure that he doesn't have
- 13:19Speaker 6: to look over his shoulder.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that Stafford has to do this.
- 13:23Speaker 2: I mean, just came off an MVP season.
- 13:25Speaker 6: Listen, I heard your, um, your, debate with yourself on
- 13:28Speaker 6: the way in about Mendoza playing for the Raiders and
- 13:33Speaker 6: whether you stick him in the lineup right away or
- 13:35Speaker 6: go with Kirk Cousins.
- 13:35Speaker 3: We can save it if you want to. I know.
- 13:37Speaker 6: But it's just a basic– my premise has always been
- 13:40Speaker 6: the same. There's a very fine line, and you can
- 13:44Speaker 6: say you know the line, but you don't because you're
- 13:46Speaker 6: not in the locker room, you're not with the players.
- 13:48Speaker 6: There's a fine line between allowing a kid to make
- 13:50Speaker 6: mistakes and learn on the job.
- 13:53Speaker 3: I get it.
- 13:54Speaker 4: It's like learning how to ride a bike.
- 13:55Speaker 6: You're going to make mistakes. You're going to fall, get
- 13:58Speaker 6: back up, learn how to ride the bike. And then
- 14:00Speaker 6: those who get so scared when they do so, they
- 14:03Speaker 6: see ghosts and they can't get back on that bike.
- 14:06Speaker 4: And I think that's the line that you have to cross. Well,
- 14:09Speaker 4: if you're dealing with first round quarterbacks.
- 14:11Speaker 2: We'll do this a little bit later in the hour.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Cause I, I do think Mendoza finishes now the preseason with,
- 14:18Speaker 2: with two interceptions, no touchdowns, but he's made some good throws.
- 14:21Speaker 2: He wasn't very good yesterday. Um, Look, there's something to that.
- 14:25Speaker 2: We'll get to it in a little bit. We have
- 14:27Speaker 2: your final day of keywords to get into this Rock, Paper,
- 14:30Speaker 2: Scissors contest and a chance to go to the opener
- 14:33Speaker 2: on Monday night.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Whoa, it's over after today? It's over after today. That's right. Yes.
- 14:37Speaker 3: We're done?
- 14:38Speaker 2: So, a lot to get to here along with something
- 14:43Speaker 2: happened in hockey yesterday, Moe. We're still awaiting the term
- 14:46Speaker 2: of Kale McCarr, but.
- 14:48Speaker 6: Also, a guy on the text line says, Moj, I
- 14:50Speaker 6: love the Seinfeld reference that Brett and Vic totally missed.
- 14:54Speaker 6: There's nothing I hate more than Seinfeld reference guy. Seinfeld
- 15:01Speaker 6: reference guy.
- 15:02Speaker 3: I see.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
- 15:03Speaker 4: I'm just not a Seinfeld reference guy.
- 15:05Speaker 3: Cool, Carl.
- 15:05Speaker 4: I'm just not that guy.
- 15:07Speaker 2: I'm going to wince when I say this.
- 15:08Speaker 4: I'm not that guy.
- 15:08Speaker 2: People are going to throw things at me.
- 15:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:10Speaker 6: I never understood the Seinfeld thing.
- 15:13Speaker 7: I never.
- 15:13Speaker 4: I watched it. It was funny.
- 15:15Speaker 3: It was okay.
- 15:16Speaker 4: It was fine. But I'm not Seinfeld reference guy. What
- 15:21Speaker 4: Seinfeld reference did you make?
- 15:26Speaker 3: I'm not a big Seinfeld guy. But I loved that scene.
- 15:31Speaker 3: I thought it was hysterical.
- 15:32Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about.
- 15:33Speaker 2: I think it's the write-off thing because it's the only
- 15:35Speaker 2: thing I didn't understand.
- 15:36Speaker 3: That is correct.
- 15:37Speaker 2: The what thing? Write-off.
- 15:39Speaker 4: What did he say?
- 15:40Speaker 3: I missed it.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Kramer.
- 15:43Speaker 3: Goes to Jerry. The stereo got broken in shipment. They'll
- 15:48Speaker 3: just write it off. What do you mean write it off?
- 15:50Speaker 3: Who writes it off? They write it off, right? And
- 15:54Speaker 3: Jerry goes to Kramer. He goes, you don't even know
- 15:57Speaker 3: what a write-off is, do you? And he goes, do you?
- 16:02Speaker 3: He goes, no. He goes, well, they do. And they're
- 16:05Speaker 3: the ones writing it off.
- 16:07Speaker 2: It was in reference to your friggin' survey. See, but
- 16:10Speaker 2: here's the thing.
- 16:10Speaker 3: You know what?
- 16:11Speaker 2: You guys suck.
- 16:12Speaker 3: You don't have the ability to follow a friggin' timeline.
- 16:15Speaker 3: You don't have the ability to follow a discussion.
- 16:19Speaker 2: But that didn't seem like.
- 16:20Speaker 4: What's funny about that? There's nothing funny about that.
- 16:24Speaker 3: So what am I supposed to do?
- 16:25Speaker 4: A lot of you are angry that we're not.
- 16:27Speaker 3: Well, I think it's hysterical.
- 16:28Speaker 6: So what are we supposed to do when somebody makes
- 16:30Speaker 6: a Seinfeld reference? Are we supposed to stop everything we're
- 16:32Speaker 6: doing and going.
- 16:35Speaker 3: What are we supposed to do? I can't help it
- 16:38Speaker 3: if you have no sense of humor... Yeah.
- 16:40Speaker 2: See, but this is like... Between that... You're just.
- 16:43Speaker 3: I'm surrounded by friggin' idiots, man.
- 16:45Speaker 2: But you did that, and Mosher, I don't know where
- 16:47Speaker 2: the punchline is. It feels like they're... Look, you just
- 16:50Speaker 2: throw a laugh track in there, then it's really funny,
- 16:52Speaker 2: I guess. I don't know. The no soup for you thing,
- 16:55Speaker 2: don't really get that one either. I thought that sucked.
- 16:57Speaker 2: A guy that's just shouting no soup for you, I
- 16:58Speaker 2: don't know why that's funny.
- 17:00Speaker 3: That was not funny to me.
- 17:02Speaker 2: It's like in Big Bang Theory when somebody just yells bazinga,
- 17:04Speaker 2: and then they put a laugh track behind it. It's like,
- 17:06Speaker 2: that's not a funny thing.
- 17:07Speaker 3: It's just.
- 17:07Speaker 6: Steven....
- 17:10Speaker 3: We're not going to break it until you pull up
- 17:11Speaker 3: the write-off.
- 17:12Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
- 17:14Speaker 3: Too much time on the write-off.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I'm going to keep my microphone on and I'm going
- 17:17Speaker 2: to keep talking.
- 17:17Speaker 6: If you want to do Seinfeld references, you hang out
- 17:19Speaker 6: with Nate and Andy in the afternoons.
- 17:21Speaker 3: They do those all afternoon. And all afternoon, I'm like, what?
- 17:24Speaker 3: Don't put that on me, Ricky Bobby.
- 17:25Speaker 2: All right, still a lot to get to. Big news
- 17:28Speaker 2: from the NHL that we'll get to next.
- 17:29Speaker 3: If you're not going to post your good scores, what
- 17:32Speaker 3: are we doing?
- 17:33Speaker 2: This is the most fraudulent thing in the world, and
- 17:36Speaker 2: it drives me nuts. Kyle does this too. I'm playing
- 17:40Speaker 2: with— We're surrounded by frauds, Vic.
- 17:42Speaker 3: I posted my score yesterday. I posted it.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Vic shot a 72 yesterday.
- 17:45Speaker 3: I posted it.
- 17:46Speaker 2: You posted 72, and it drops your handicap by a lot.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Well, guess what?
- 17:51Speaker 2: You played a good round.
- 17:52Speaker 3: That's what happens. You can't just pick and choose when
- 17:54Speaker 3: you post.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Moshe's like, oh, I shot a 74. I'm not going
- 17:57Speaker 2: to do it, though, because I don't usually shoot 74.
- 17:58Speaker 3: That's the point. I don't usually shoot that either. You
- 18:04Speaker 3: guys know me. I'm the king of leaving a three-footer short.
- 18:07Speaker 3: I'm the king of it.
- 18:10Speaker 2: Post your scores, Moshe.
- 18:10Speaker 3: Okay, timeout, though. Post your scores, Mario.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Post your scores, Dante. Post your scores.
- 18:15Speaker 3: Wait, Mario doesn't post? Listen.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Post your scores, Keefe.
- 18:18Speaker 3: Do your brothers listen to this program? Do they listen?
- 18:22Speaker 3: I don't think they know where I'm working. Bunch of frauds.
- 18:25Speaker 3: I sent you all a very good text yesterday. Very,
- 18:28Speaker 3: very good text. But here's the thing, Cater. Let me
- 18:30Speaker 3: explain to you. We're playing with the big boss today, right?
- 18:34Speaker 1: Yes.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Okay. He knows, you know, you know, everybody knows that
- 18:40Speaker 3: I'm an eight. At one time I was a three,
- 18:42Speaker 3: but now I'm an eight. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
- 18:46Speaker 6: Because if I have to give you strokes on holes
- 18:49Speaker 6: that I know you could play as well.
- 18:51Speaker 3: As I, that's wrong. That's cheating.
- 18:53Speaker 2: That is cheating. Hey, oh, look, we're doing the show
- 18:56Speaker 2: with old Steve Ballmer over here.
- 18:59Speaker 3: You conned me.
- 19:00Speaker 2: Anyway.
- 19:01Speaker 3: Okay, move on. Move on because now I'm just mad.
- 19:04Speaker 3: It's a mad Friday.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Okay, Boomer. Can I ask you guys something? Because I
- 19:07Speaker 2: thought we'd get some details about Kel McCarr's contract. We
- 19:10Speaker 2: haven't yet, so we're still awaiting those. But in the
- 19:13Speaker 2: awaiting of the contract news, got this yesterday.
- 19:20Speaker 3: It was a statement.
- 19:23Speaker 2: An old, good old-fashioned statement. And it came from Connor Halibut.
- 19:30Speaker 2: He went on to say, Winnipeg's been my home for
- 19:33Speaker 2: my entire NHL career. I'm grateful for my time, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 19:36Speaker 2: And then he goes, several months ago, I privately requested
- 19:39Speaker 2: a trade. I've tried to handle the situation quietly and
- 19:42Speaker 2: respectfully while giving the organization time to explore its options.
- 19:47Speaker 2: With training camp approaching, I felt it was important to
- 19:49Speaker 2: publish confirm my request. My position has not changed, and
- 19:53Speaker 2: I believe moving on is the best path forward for
- 19:57Speaker 2: me and my family. I appreciate everything, Winnipeg. Jets fans
- 20:00Speaker 2: have meant to me throughout my career, and I hope
- 20:02Speaker 2: a resolution can be reached soon in which.
- 20:06Speaker 2: The Jets responded with a statement of their own saying,
- 20:09Speaker 2: Connor has been open with us about his desire for
- 20:11Speaker 2: a change. He has been an important part of the
- 20:13Speaker 2: Winnipeg Jets organization for many years. We have tremendous respect
- 20:15Speaker 2: for what he's accomplished here. While we continue to work
- 20:18Speaker 2: through the situation in a thoughtful manner, there is no
- 20:21Speaker 2: update at this time. To which I saw a bunch
- 20:25Speaker 2: of Avs fans being like, go get him.
- 20:28Speaker 4: How much does he make?
- 20:30Speaker 7: $ 8.
- 20:30Speaker 2: 5 million a year through 2031. Listen. McKenzie Blackwood's at 5.3?
- 20:35Speaker 6: I'm going to 5.2? I'm going to remove Mosier from
- 20:40Speaker 6: the conversation because he's in a that's a tough situation
- 20:43Speaker 6: to be in. I respect the situation you're in, Mosier.
- 20:46Speaker 6: You can't be doing that when you're calling the games necessarily.
- 20:51Speaker 3: But I would make that call in a heartbeat. In
- 20:56Speaker 3: a heartbeat.
- 20:58Speaker 2: There's one issue.
- 21:00Speaker 6: One issue is you got two guys now basically for
- 21:03Speaker 6: the What is the price tag of both of the
- 21:05Speaker 6: guys here?
- 21:07Speaker 3: Less than what Hellebuck's making.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Total?
- 21:09Speaker 3: No, it's about the same. Okay, yeah. It's two for
- 21:12Speaker 3: the price of one. It's less. Okay, less. So that's
- 21:15Speaker 3: the issue.
- 21:15Speaker 2: I mean, but it's not much less. You got two
- 21:17Speaker 2: for the price of one, essentially. McKenzie's making 5.25. Wedgie's
- 21:20Speaker 2: making 2.5. Okay.
- 21:22Speaker 3: So that's, we'll call it eight.
- 21:24Speaker 4: And how long are they signed?
- 21:25Speaker 3: Until? Wedgie's done after this year. Wedgie's done after this year.
- 21:28Speaker 2: And McKenzie's through 2030, I think.
- 21:29Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got three more years.
- 21:31Speaker 5: Yeah, 2030.
- 21:31Speaker 6: Okay. I, that's a tough one, man. That's a tough
- 21:37Speaker 6: one because you go for depth or do you go
- 21:40Speaker 6: for top notch talents at the top? I mean, we've
- 21:43Speaker 6: talked about this issue with both the abs and the nuggets.
- 21:46Speaker 6: Are you too top heavy, right?
- 21:48Speaker 3: Right.
- 21:48Speaker 6: Can you be top heavy? What if somebody gets hurt?
- 21:50Speaker 6: What if you need that backup to play a lot
- 21:53Speaker 6: of games and help you? They got help from the
- 21:55Speaker 6: backup last year. They got so much help from the backup.
- 21:57Speaker 6: The backup became the one.
- 22:00Speaker 2: There's two, there's a number of different questions to this,
- 22:03Speaker 2: but Let me just roll through a few of these.
- 22:05Speaker 2: Number one, McKenzie Blackwood has a modified no-trade clause. It's
- 22:09Speaker 2: a six-team no-trade clause, Moj. Does that mean six teams
- 22:12Speaker 2: he will not be traded to or six teams he
- 22:14Speaker 2: would allow to be traded to? I don't know the
- 22:17Speaker 2: details on that.
- 22:18Speaker 3: Six teams that he would not be traded to. By
- 22:20Speaker 3: the way, Hellebuck has a full no-movement clause.
- 22:24Speaker 2: But he wants out.
- 22:26Speaker 3: Correct. He wants movement now. Yes. Well, yeah, he wants
- 22:29Speaker 3: movement now. Correct. But I'm saying they could send him
- 22:32Speaker 3: to Edmonton and he could say no.
- 22:35Speaker 2: If McKenzie Blackwood is on Winnipeg, if he has Winnipeg
- 22:38Speaker 2: on his no trade, well, then that's a non-starter unless
- 22:41Speaker 2: you're doing a three-team deal or whatever.
- 22:42Speaker 3: I'm not trying to disparage Winnipeg. Okay?
- 22:45Speaker 2: Okay.
- 22:46Speaker 4: Who the hell wants to live there?
- 22:47Speaker 3: But they're on everybody's no-trade clause. I will. I think maybe.
- 22:52Speaker 3: And I'm not being a jerk here, but the winters
- 22:57Speaker 3: in Winnipeg are pretty significant. And so what I'm saying
- 23:02Speaker 3: is that I would guess that they're on a lot
- 23:04Speaker 3: of guys' no-trades. And that's unfortunate for them because there
- 23:08Speaker 3: are some very good people in Winnipeg. I like their GM.
- 23:12Speaker 3: I like all their broadcasters an awful lot. They're great people.
- 23:16Speaker 2: So that's number one.
- 23:17Speaker 6: It's not my fault your weather's that bad. Geographically, you're
- 23:20Speaker 6: not situated in the best place. They want to kill
- 23:24Speaker 6: Kyle Keefe.
- 23:24Speaker 3: You remember what he did?
- 23:25Speaker 4: Oh, he went outside in the middle of the winter?
- 23:30Speaker 3: He stood in the corner of Portage and Main, which
- 23:31Speaker 3: is known as the windiest, coldest intersection in North America.
- 23:38Speaker 3: And he said, it's a death sentence in the middle
- 23:41Speaker 3: of the freezing snow wind. Well, Winnipeg people took offense
- 23:46Speaker 3: to that, and they want to kill him.
- 23:48Speaker 4: Why do they take offense to it?
- 23:50Speaker 3: Because it's a sense of pride to them, and he's
- 23:52Speaker 3: called being in Winnipeg on the corner a death sentence. Cold?
- 23:56Speaker 3: What's that?
- 23:56Speaker 2: I think it's only adding to their sense of pride
- 24:00Speaker 2: of how cold it is.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Hey, we can handle the cold. We're tougher than you are. Yeah,
- 24:03Speaker 3: they call him all kinds of names. They call him
- 24:05Speaker 3: a wuss. Yeah, all that kind of stuff.
- 24:06Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't make me want to live there.
- 24:09Speaker 2: So that's the first hurdle is... Just logistically, no trade
- 24:13Speaker 2: clause for McKenzie Blackwood. How would that work? Secondly, we
- 24:17Speaker 2: don't know what the kale money is yet. And you
- 24:21Speaker 2: can say, well, it's only going to be adding like
- 24:22Speaker 2: $ 3 million to your cap table. When you're in a
- 24:26Speaker 2: tight spot like the Avs are, $ 3 million is, I mean, Vic.
- 24:32Speaker 2: Is $ 5 million to the Nuggets cap a big deal
- 24:35Speaker 2: right now?
- 24:35Speaker 4: It's a huge deal.
- 24:36Speaker 6: $ 1 is a huge deal.
- 24:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:37Speaker 2: So it is a big deal, especially when you're going
- 24:40Speaker 2: to be losing a guy like Lekanen. You still need
- 24:45Speaker 2: to add some other depth pieces to the team in
- 24:47Speaker 2: the coming years. So that's a big deal.
- 24:51Speaker 3: After what? I was going to send it to Nellie.
- 24:55Speaker 3: It got reported on global news in Canada.
- 24:58Speaker 2: That's funny.
- 24:59Speaker 3: I mean, it went, it went, it went national.
- 25:01Speaker 2: Send it to Nelly.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Kyle's. Yes.
- 25:03Speaker 2: Send it to Nelly and we'll play it in a second.
- 25:05Speaker 3: Okay. It's hysterical. Okay.
- 25:07Speaker 2: So the second part of this is, oh, it's only
- 25:08Speaker 2: $ 3 million. $ 3 million for a team that doesn't have
- 25:11Speaker 2: any movement here. Cap wise is tough.
- 25:16Speaker 3: Third lean.
- 25:16Speaker 2: Here's the last thing. The most important last thing, at
- 25:19Speaker 2: least to me. Connor Hellebuck is an American hero now, right?
- 25:24Speaker 2: The performance he put on in the gold medal match was,
- 25:28Speaker 2: it'll be in lore for American Olympic history forever. Do
- 25:34Speaker 2: you want, I'm sorry, Connor Hellebuck's numbers the last three
- 25:38Speaker 2: years in the postseason?
- 25:40Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not good.
- 25:42Speaker 3: Well, the abs lit him up. You remember the year with,
- 25:45Speaker 3: they had to pull the guy, Georgiev. Yeah, I mean,
- 25:49Speaker 3: the Avs lit him up hard.
- 25:51Speaker 2: So his first year in Winnipeg, the 17-18 season, they
- 25:53Speaker 2: played in 17 playoff games that year. His save percentage
- 25:57Speaker 2: was 922. He was awesome. And each year since then,
- 26:03Speaker 2: for the most part, it's gotten worse and worse and worse.
- 26:08Speaker 2: Here's the last three years in the postseason for Connor Hellebuck.
- 26:11Speaker 2: In 2023, 886, 3-4-4 goals against in five games. In 2024,
- 26:19Speaker 2: 870 save percentage, 5-2-3 goals against. Last year, in 13
- 26:27Speaker 2: playoff games, his career-worst 866, 308 goals against.
- 26:35Speaker 3: Not good.
- 26:36Speaker 2: So what do you do with that? For a guy
- 26:38Speaker 2: who was obviously very good, we've seen him step up
- 26:41Speaker 2: in the Olympics and play really well, but the last
- 26:43Speaker 2: three post-seasons... That'd be terrible.
- 26:47Speaker 3: If he got rocked in the Olympic Games, that'd be
- 26:50Speaker 3: one thing. But he's shown that when the games are
- 26:54Speaker 3: the hardest and there's most on the line, he can perform.
- 26:58Speaker 2: But Moshe just gave you when the games are at
- 27:01Speaker 2: their hardest.
- 27:01Speaker 3: Understood. Well, you also have to consider what's around him, too.
- 27:05Speaker 3: That's true. And again, I'm not going to disparage the Jets.
- 27:11Speaker 3: But you recall when the Avs lit him up, right?
- 27:13Speaker 3: When Georgie was not good. And we were discussing on
- 27:18Speaker 3: this program whether or not you even start Georgie, right? Yeah.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Do you even play him? Right. He won that series. Yes.
- 27:25Speaker 3: But what Hellebuck said is, I can't stop what I
- 27:28Speaker 3: can't see. Meaning, the guys in front of him were
- 27:33Speaker 3: allowing the Avs to stack the slot and screen him
- 27:37Speaker 3: on every damn shot, so on and so forth, blah, blah, blah.
- 27:40Speaker 6: Blah, blah.
- 27:44Speaker 3: True. True.
- 27:45Speaker 2: All I'm asking is how much of the postseason numbers
- 27:48Speaker 2: come into play when discussing Connor Halibut.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Well, listen, look, they're not going to trade him inside
- 27:54Speaker 3: the division anyway. I would be absolutely shocked if they
- 28:00Speaker 3: send him anywhere inside the Central.
- 28:02Speaker 6: And you have to ask the fundamental question. The Avs
- 28:06Speaker 6: were one series away from playing in the Stanley Cup.
- 28:11Speaker 6: Was the reason they did not advance, did it have
- 28:13Speaker 6: anything to do with the guys between the pipes?
- 28:17Speaker 4: Was it that? If that's not the problem.
- 28:18Speaker 3: For the abs?
- 28:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 28:20Speaker 3: If that's not the problem. Not really. Okay. I mean,
- 28:24Speaker 3: I guess they could have been. They could have locked
- 28:27Speaker 3: it down. But I mean, no, not really, Vic. No.
- 28:29Speaker 4: Is that the reason you lost 4-0 to Vegas?
- 28:32Speaker 6: You couldn't score against Vegas. So if it's not the reason,
- 28:36Speaker 6: then what are we doing here? There are other reasons.
- 28:38Speaker 2: That's what I'm asking. And again, if you say, hey, Brett,
- 28:42Speaker 2: you can have Connor Hellebuck, would you take him?
- 28:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:46Speaker 2: Yes, is my answer. But it's for all of the
- 28:51Speaker 2: other variables and factors in this. Is it worth, because
- 28:55Speaker 2: it would take, I think, a pretty penny, Moshe, to
- 28:57Speaker 2: grab him, wouldn't it?
- 28:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:59Speaker 2: Is that worth it?
- 29:00Speaker 3: It would be a player, a prospect... A first, maybe
- 29:07Speaker 3: two firsts. I mean, it would be a lot. Yeah.
- 29:09Speaker 3: Because this guy is regarded as one of the best
- 29:11Speaker 3: in the league. He's a freaking Vezina winner. Can I
- 29:14Speaker 3: bring something up here without getting everybody sideways? Yeah. I
- 29:20Speaker 3: don't do politics at all. I don't talk about them.
- 29:24Speaker 3: I don't want to get into it. With the United States,
- 29:29Speaker 3: with the way things have gone between Canada and the
- 29:31Speaker 3: United States, and currently going between the two countries, When
- 29:36Speaker 3: those U.S. players who play in Canada won a gold medal,
- 29:44Speaker 3: they went to Canada and they faced a backlash. In fact,
- 29:47Speaker 3: Hellebuck got booed by his own crowd.
- 29:49Speaker 4: What do you mean he got booed? Like, Upon introduction
- 29:54Speaker 4: back in Winnipeg?
- 29:55Speaker 3: They acknowledged all the Olympic people. He got booed by
- 29:59Speaker 3: the crowd in Winnipeg.
- 30:00Speaker 4: Did the Canadians get booed here when we acknowledged the Canadians?
- 30:04Speaker 3: No.
- 30:04Speaker 7: Okay.
- 30:05Speaker 3: Just curious. Well, Brady Kachuk wanted out of Ottawa. I
- 30:09Speaker 3: was in Vancouver. Connor Hellebuck wants out of... Winnipeg.
- 30:13Speaker 2: Austin Matthews.
- 30:14Speaker 3: Austin Matthews. There are rumors. These guys... Listen, and I'm
- 30:18Speaker 3: not casting dispersions, and I'm not blaming anybody or anything.
- 30:22Speaker 3: I will. But when they went back to their teams
- 30:25Speaker 3: in Canada, there was a... To varying degrees, there was
- 30:29Speaker 3: a backlash. Now, that being said, I mean, some guys
- 30:32Speaker 3: probably don't care. Some guys maybe really do care. I
- 30:35Speaker 3: don't know, but I can see as to where guys
- 30:38Speaker 3: would go, man, I'm just a hockey player. I'm not
- 30:41Speaker 3: in politics. Get off my ass. And that's all I'm saying.
- 30:46Speaker 3: I'll cast. You won't. I will.
- 30:49Speaker 4: I was in Vancouver in, God, what year was that?
- 30:52Speaker 3: 2000?
- 30:52Speaker 6: 1999?
- 30:53Speaker 4: When the Avs were playing Vancouver?
- 30:57Speaker 3: In the playoffs?
- 30:58Speaker 4: And do you remember what happened? Do you remember what
- 31:01Speaker 4: happened in Vancouver?
- 31:03Speaker 3: Well, they booed our anthem.
- 31:04Speaker 4: They booed the national anthem every single game.
- 31:06Speaker 6: They booed the American anthem a lot. Yeah, but they
- 31:11Speaker 6: did it in 99, just like they're doing it in 2025-26.
- 31:13Speaker 6: And I'm at the point where, like, what are we doing?
- 31:19Speaker 4: What are you doing?
- 31:19Speaker 3: It's disrespectful. We must stop the terror.
- 31:23Speaker 2: I call upon all nations.
- 31:24Speaker 6: Now watch this drive.
- 31:26Speaker 3: Thanks.
- 31:27Speaker 2: No, but seriously, I'm just saying. No, I totally agree.
- 31:30Speaker 3: I'm just saying if you– Hellebuck's 33. I'm sure he
- 31:35Speaker 3: wants to try to win. The Winnipeg Jets, they had
- 31:39Speaker 3: a good run, a good run. They have some really
- 31:41Speaker 3: good players. And, again, I like the people there. I do.
- 31:46Speaker 3: He probably wants to win. He can see that his
- 31:48Speaker 3: biological clock is ticking like this. And I think if
- 31:53Speaker 3: you go home after you win a gold medal– and
- 31:58Speaker 3: even your home crowd boos you, it's got to hurt
- 32:04Speaker 3: at least a little bit. Maybe some guys shrug it off.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Maybe some guys take real offense. I don't know. I
- 32:08Speaker 3: don't know. But I'm saying, to me, I would have
- 32:13Speaker 3: reacted probably even worse than these guys did, but I
- 32:16Speaker 3: would have asked for a trade, yes.
- 32:19Speaker 2: By the way, if you do get Connor Hellebuck, I
- 32:22Speaker 2: don't think there's any question. He's going to have to
- 32:24Speaker 2: be better in the postseason.
- 32:27Speaker 1: It's time for another Rock Paper Tickets keyword.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Better.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Better and better, and so that whenever the regular season
- 32:33Speaker 2: comes around, I can try to be available and ready
- 32:35Speaker 2: to play.
- 32:36Speaker 3: Better.
- 32:36Speaker 6: Text it in now to 303-504-0925.
- 32:38Speaker 1: That's the keyword.
- 32:42Speaker 2: It is better in your first and last name to 303-504-0925.
- 32:46Speaker 2: Gets you a chance to get qualified for that Rock
- 32:49Speaker 2: Paper Scissors tournament on Tuesday at Rooftop Social in Rhino.
- 32:53Speaker 2: And the winner... Heads to KC with flights, hotel, and
- 32:56Speaker 2: tickets to see the season opener.
- 32:57Speaker 3: Look at me in the face. Just look right at
- 33:00Speaker 3: my face. That's awesome, by the way.
- 33:04Speaker 2: Spell Hellebuck.
- 33:05Speaker 3: Don't look. Look at me in the face. H-E-L-L-E-Y.
- 33:07Speaker 2: Then they're E-Y.
- 33:07Speaker 3: E-B-U-C-K? You're completely wrong. Okay. In fact, I'll give you,
- 33:21Speaker 3: spell Bufflin. Remember Dustin Bufflin?
- 33:24Speaker 6: Yeah, I have no chance on that.
- 33:25Speaker 3: You have no shot.
- 33:26Speaker 4: B-Y, some crap in there.
- 33:29Speaker 2: H-E-L-L-E-B-U-Y-C-K. Huh? H-E-L-L-E-B-U-Y-C-K. Hellabuck.
- 33:41Speaker 3: Dang it, dang it.
- 33:42Speaker 4: The hell is that?
- 33:44Speaker 3: Do you know how I remember how to spell Bufflin? Bufflin,
- 33:48Speaker 3: like B-U-F-F-L-I-N, Bufflin. Yeah, he's a big old boy. You
- 33:51Speaker 3: had to spell it like this, Bifuglian.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 33:55Speaker 3: It's- Bifuglian. Bifuglian, B-Y-F-U-G-L-I-E-N, Bufflin. Bifuglian.
- 34:03Speaker 2: You know what, Brett? Don't, I know the joke you're
- 34:09Speaker 2: going to make. Don't say it.
- 34:11Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Do you have a girlfriend in college?
- 34:21Speaker 1: All right.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Look, a lot more to get to this morning.
- 34:23Speaker 3: Stick around.
- 34:24Speaker 1: All right.
- 34:24Speaker 2: So still a lot to get to today. We have
- 34:27Speaker 2: two more keywords that we're doing before the end of
- 34:29Speaker 2: the show. Every other show has some. But if you
- 34:31Speaker 2: guys don't qualify through text, you can just show up
- 34:34Speaker 2: to rooftop social six o'clock on Tuesday. We're picking four
- 34:38Speaker 2: people at least to get in this tournament as at
- 34:41Speaker 2: large bids. So go check it out. Let's get it.
- 34:44Speaker 3: Let's get it out of the way. All right.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Well, hang on, hang on. I got, I have a
- 34:48Speaker 2: problem here.
- 34:50Speaker 3: Oh God.
- 34:50Speaker 2: I don't know how to say this. I want from
- 34:57Speaker 2: my ownership groups for teams that I love and adore.
- 35:01Speaker 2: I want them to like bleed my teams. I want
- 35:06Speaker 2: them to have such a love and adoration because yes,
- 35:10Speaker 2: we all understand owning a professional sports team in this
- 35:13Speaker 2: country is as we've come to know from multiple sells
- 35:18Speaker 2: over the last few years, it's a business venture. It
- 35:22Speaker 2: is somewhere that you can put money into something, wait
- 35:26Speaker 2: a number of years, it will grow in value. It's
- 35:30Speaker 2: an investment. I know that. But at its core, it's
- 35:33Speaker 2: a community thing. Even though you might own it, we
- 35:37Speaker 2: all kind of, if we live in this community, have
- 35:39Speaker 2: a shared stock, we'll say, emotionally within that thing. And
- 35:44Speaker 2: I want to know that the people at the top
- 35:46Speaker 2: that are in charge feel the same sort of passion
- 35:49Speaker 2: towards that team and winning as I do.
- 35:51Speaker 3: Right?
- 35:52Speaker 2: That's a fair thing.
- 35:52Speaker 3: Do they want to win? Yes.
- 35:54Speaker 2: That's what I want. And the San Diego Padres were
- 35:58Speaker 2: just bought by the philanthropist.
- 36:01Speaker 3: Jose Feliciano.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Feliciano and his wife.
- 36:04Speaker 3: Feliz Navidad. Feliz Navidad.
- 36:08Speaker 2: So if you guys remember, Kwanzaa Jones was at the
- 36:15Speaker 2: press conference with her husband. They bought the team. She
- 36:17Speaker 2: said this.
- 36:18Speaker 3: We're going to win.
- 36:19Speaker 6: We're going to win and win it all.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Little hokey. But you know what? She just seems to
- 36:25Speaker 2: have some passion for the team. I like that.
- 36:27Speaker 3: She wants to win and win it all. Did you guys.
- 36:30Speaker 2: Happen to see the Seattle Seahawks new ownership group? Seahawks
- 36:35Speaker 2: were bought for $ 9. 6 billion. It became finalized a couple
- 36:38Speaker 2: days ago. They had the press conference. And this new owner,
- 36:41Speaker 2: I don't even know his name. What's his name?
- 36:43Speaker 4: I don't know his name.
- 36:45Speaker 2: Kosla? Vinod Kosla, I believe. So he came to the
- 36:51Speaker 2: United States in 1976.
- 36:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 36:52Speaker 2: He said this while.
- 36:59Speaker 2: Bing introduces the new owner of the Seattle Seahawks.
- 37:02Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks is your team.
- 37:04Speaker 2: He said this.
- 37:05Speaker 7: I also happened to come to this country in 76
- 37:08Speaker 7: when the Steelers were winning the Super Bowl. So actually
- 37:10Speaker 7: I was originally and still am a big Steelers fan.
- 37:14Speaker 3: Nope.
- 37:14Speaker 7: Also, a little-known fact, but I still watch all the
- 37:19Speaker 7: Steelers games.
- 37:20Speaker 3: Shut up! Jesus, good Lord Almighty.
- 37:23Speaker 2: No, I'm telling you guys right now. You guys know
- 37:25Speaker 2: how much, because of my father, how much I love
- 37:27Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. If I became the owner of the
- 37:29Speaker 2: Denver Broncos, there's no more Lions love. Sorry, this is
- 37:32Speaker 2: the team now. These are my guys.
- 37:33Speaker 6: That's how it works.
- 37:34Speaker 2: This is what I do.
- 37:35Speaker 3: Yes.
- 37:37Speaker 4: It's how it works.
- 37:37Speaker 2: You cannot admit you're a fan and you still watch
- 37:40Speaker 2: every game of the other team that you're competing with
- 37:42Speaker 2: in the league.
- 37:43Speaker 3: Can I call you a hypocrite now? Please.
- 37:45Speaker 6: So what's the difference between that and moving to a
- 37:47Speaker 6: city and carrying your transplant allegiances with you?
- 37:50Speaker 3: What do you mean?
- 37:51Speaker 2: I don't own the team, Vic.
- 37:52Speaker 3: But I'm just saying.
- 37:53Speaker 2: But what's the difference? Do I root for the Denver Broncos?
- 37:56Speaker 4: I'm just... Do I root for the Denver Broncos?
- 37:57Speaker 3: I'm not pointing to you.
- 37:58Speaker 4: I'm pointing to people who.
- 37:59Speaker 3: You called me a hypocrite.
- 38:00Speaker 2: That's a direct point to me.
- 38:02Speaker 6: You people who move to a different city and carry
- 38:05Speaker 6: your allegiances with such.
- 38:08Speaker 2: It's easy for you to do this because you lived
- 38:10Speaker 2: in Texas. You weren't a Cowboys fan.
- 38:11Speaker 3: You loved the Broncos.
- 38:12Speaker 2: You loved the Nuggets. You weren't the Mavs fan.
- 38:14Speaker 6: I didn't carry a Broncos flag around with me like
- 38:17Speaker 6: some freak in Texas when I lived there.
- 38:20Speaker 2: I haven't worn a flag.
- 38:21Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know the.
- 38:22Speaker 6: Freaks that live here that carry Vikings flags, Cubs flags.
- 38:26Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing.
- 38:27Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I'm talking about.
- 38:28Speaker 2: Vic, Vic. You're talking about people who work a 9-to-5
- 38:31Speaker 2: who go home and just want to watch some football
- 38:33Speaker 2: on the weekend as opposed to somebody who's in the
- 38:35Speaker 2: building who owned the team of the team in town.
- 38:38Speaker 3: Understood, but where do your allegiances stop?
- 38:40Speaker 6: If you live somewhere and your neighbors and everybody in
- 38:44Speaker 6: your community.
- 38:46Speaker 3: They follow a team and you don't.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Why? You've heard me. I've said this multiple times, Vic.
- 38:51Speaker 2: I think part of being a good member of a
- 38:54Speaker 2: community that you move to is you root for the
- 38:56Speaker 2: teams that are in that town.
- 38:57Speaker 3: You do.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Because it's something you all can get behind. Sports are
- 39:00Speaker 2: very easy. Teams playing, you root for that team.
- 39:03Speaker 3: That's it.
- 39:04Speaker 2: It's a very simple thing. But I don't know if
- 39:06Speaker 2: you guys saw the video. And Nelly, I can send
- 39:08Speaker 2: this to you. I want you guys to watch this.
- 39:10Speaker 2: And I want you to play it. Play the audio
- 39:13Speaker 2: along with the video. Because it's this guy, again, I
- 39:17Speaker 2: don't know how to say his name. Vinod Khosla, I'm
- 39:23Speaker 2: going to say. It's him and his son is standing
- 39:26Speaker 2: next to him. So if you haven't seen the video, Nelly,
- 39:31Speaker 2: if you could pull this up, as he's saying this
- 39:34Speaker 2: whole Steelers thing, I want you to watch his son's face.
- 39:38Speaker 2: His son is giving him the face of, shut up, dad,
- 39:42Speaker 2: or I'm putting.
- 39:42Speaker 6: You in a home.
- 39:43Speaker 3: You better shut up right now. He's got that face as, again,
- 39:49Speaker 3: you can.
- 39:50Speaker 2: You cannot say you're a fan of another team while
- 39:54Speaker 2: owning a team in that same league.
- 39:56Speaker 3: So here you go.
- 39:57Speaker 2: This is– watch his son's face on the right side here.
- 40:02Speaker 7: I also happened to come to this country in 76
- 40:05Speaker 7: when the Steelers were winning the Super Bowl. So actually
- 40:07Speaker 7: I was originally and still am a big Steelers fan also.
- 40:13Speaker 7: He's a little known fact, but I still watch all
- 40:15Speaker 7: his videos.
- 40:16Speaker 3: He starts doing the swaying. Yeah, he's like, yeah.
- 40:18Speaker 6: His mouth starts to, like, clench up.
- 40:20Speaker 2: He's like, uh, yeah.
- 40:22Speaker 3: Go to bed, Grandpa.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Shut up!
- 40:24Speaker 3: Right there. Is that not Jim from The Office?
- 40:26Speaker 2: Yes!
- 40:26Speaker 3: Doing a camera turn right there?
- 40:28Speaker 7: Yes!
- 40:28Speaker 3: He's looking right into the camera.
- 40:29Speaker 4: Come on, Dad, be cool. At the end of the day,
- 40:33Speaker 4: it's not the end of the world.
- 40:35Speaker 3: Right?
- 40:35Speaker 4: It's not the end of the world. It's not that
- 40:37Speaker 4: big a deal. It's just, it's just like, come on.
- 40:40Speaker 4: What are we doing?
- 40:41Speaker 2: In his first hour of owning this team, they have
- 40:44Speaker 2: enough ammunition for anything they disagree with ownership doing. They
- 40:48Speaker 2: just need to pull up that clip. God forbid, guys,
- 40:51Speaker 2: if they do a trade where they feel like the
- 40:53Speaker 2: Steelers got the better end of the deal.
- 40:57Speaker 3: Oh!
- 40:58Speaker 6: Oh!
- 41:00Speaker 2: Think about it. I mean, seriously, Vic, how would you
- 41:03Speaker 2: feel if the Cronkies decided, you know what, we no
- 41:06Speaker 2: longer want to own the Nuggets, and they sold it
- 41:08Speaker 2: to somebody?
- 41:09Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 41:10Speaker 2: And that person comes in and he goes, I got
- 41:12Speaker 2: to tell you, growing up.
- 41:14Speaker 3: I was a Raiders fan.
- 41:16Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, not Raiders. New owner of the Nuggets.
- 41:19Speaker 3: Huge Golden State guy, yeah. I'm sorry.
- 41:22Speaker 2: I was just, I lived in Miami during the LeBron years.
- 41:25Speaker 2: And I just, I love the heat. I watch him
- 41:27Speaker 2: every night. Now, I'm very pumped to be the Nuggets owner.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. You would be like, no, you
- 41:33Speaker 2: weren't allowed to say that.
- 41:34Speaker 6: Let me address a couple things. And this is obviously
- 41:38Speaker 6: a very sensitive topic because everybody gets all up in
- 41:41Speaker 6: arms over this one about allegiance and loyalty to teams.
- 41:45Speaker 6: I'm not anti-loyalty to team.
- 41:47Speaker 4: I'm not.
- 41:48Speaker 6: But there's a line that you cross, and you know
- 41:51Speaker 6: the line. For example, this person writes in, Vic, I
- 41:55Speaker 6: moved to Oregon almost three years ago. I still have
- 41:58Speaker 6: 100% allegiance to Colorado sports teams. I even still listen
- 42:02Speaker 6: to you guys every day.
- 42:03Speaker 4: Thank you for listening.
- 42:04Speaker 6: I have no problem with that. I have no problem
- 42:06Speaker 6: with you listening. I have no problem with you having allegiances.
- 42:09Speaker 6: I don't know where you live in Oregon. Do you
- 42:10Speaker 6: live in Portland? All I'm saying is, if the Denver
- 42:13Speaker 6: Nuggets are playing the Portland Trailblazers and your neighbors are
- 42:16Speaker 6: all into the Portland game and If you're one of
- 42:18Speaker 6: those guys walking around with Nuggets flags and taunting them
- 42:21Speaker 6: and doing this, I just think that you cross a line.
- 42:23Speaker 3: That's all.
- 42:23Speaker 2: You don't have to be a jerk about it.
- 42:25Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying.
- 42:26Speaker 6: I'm saying the line cross. It's just like, you know,
- 42:29Speaker 6: you live in this community now. You might have allegiances
- 42:32Speaker 6: in another community where you were raised.
- 42:34Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. I really do.
- 42:36Speaker 6: I'll answer this question. Is this person thinks they've got me? Vic,
- 42:39Speaker 6: if Italy ever makes it back to the World Cup,
- 42:42Speaker 6: you're going to root for them? Guys, answer that question
- 42:44Speaker 6: because I've answered it several times.
- 42:46Speaker 3: Well, you would root for the U.S.
- 42:48Speaker 4: Exactly right.
- 42:48Speaker 2: You would root for Italy, but you would root for
- 42:50Speaker 2: the U.S.
- 42:50Speaker 4: Exactly right.
- 42:52Speaker 6: Exactly right. I live in the United States of America.
- 42:55Speaker 6: If Italy played the U.S. in soccer, you're damn right
- 42:58Speaker 6: I would root for the U.S.
- 42:59Speaker 3: Still feels different.
- 43:00Speaker 4: And it's not even close.
- 43:01Speaker 2: Still feels different. You've lived the majority of your life here, too.
- 43:05Speaker 2: It's not like you moved from Italy three years ago.
- 43:07Speaker 6: Jacob writes in, Vic is soft as blank. What do
- 43:11Speaker 6: I mean soft? I'm just making a claim, that's all.
- 43:14Speaker 6: I'm just making a claim. It's very bothersome when you're
- 43:18Speaker 6: walking around North Denver, where I was raised, and everybody's
- 43:22Speaker 6: from another part of the country, and they got their
- 43:25Speaker 6: Cubs flags, their Vikings flags. And then you look and say,
- 43:29Speaker 6: no wonder why No wonder why we're not what.
- 43:32Speaker 3: We used to be here.
- 43:33Speaker 6: Because everybody's rooting for somebody else here.
- 43:36Speaker 4: We're transplant town now.
- 43:37Speaker 3: I was talking to Judson the other day, owner of Sportsbook.
- 43:41Speaker 3: We've done shows at Sportsbook the whole night. You've got
- 43:43Speaker 3: a bunch of locations. And we were talking about college
- 43:48Speaker 3: football coming up. And he's like, oh, yeah, you know,
- 43:50Speaker 3: and on this day, I mean, there are people here,
- 43:54Speaker 3: like Nebraska fans will take over one of his Sportsbook
- 43:57Speaker 3: locations for a Nebraska game. Sure. And he goes... The
- 44:00Speaker 3: funny part is they want Nebraska on every television. And
- 44:05Speaker 3: they honestly have, I don't know, they have like 30 big,
- 44:08Speaker 3: big giant TVs in the sports book by my house.
- 44:10Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 44:12Speaker 3: And I'm like... He's like, yeah, I won't do that,
- 44:16Speaker 3: but I'll kind of corral them to this part of
- 44:18Speaker 3: the place. He goes, but they want it on everything.
- 44:21Speaker 3: So that's who we are now. I mean, you've got
- 44:24Speaker 3: Iowa fans and Nebraska fans and Notre Dame, and they
- 44:27Speaker 3: find their locations and they go there and they set
- 44:29Speaker 3: up shop. In every major city, they have places where
- 44:33Speaker 3: it's like... Well, if you're in Cleveland, do you have...
- 44:36Speaker 3: You know, Dolphins fans that go to a Dolphins bar?
- 44:39Speaker 6: Yes.
- 44:40Speaker 3: Yes, they do. You're kidding me.
- 44:41Speaker 2: I swear to God.
- 44:42Speaker 3: No, but Denver, Colorado is by far more of a
- 44:46Speaker 3: transplant community than Cleveland is.
- 44:49Speaker 6: Because I lived here before we got to this point.
- 44:52Speaker 6: And that's why it's stunning to me. I lived here
- 44:56Speaker 6: when most of my neighbors were rooting.
- 44:58Speaker 3: For the home teams.
- 45:00Speaker 6: Now you walk around, everybody from somewhere else rooting for
- 45:03Speaker 6: other teams.
- 45:03Speaker 3: It's freaky to me.
- 45:05Speaker 2: I just think, look, at the end of the day,
- 45:07Speaker 2: you always root for the teams in the town that
- 45:09Speaker 2: you're there with. You can have your own teams and
- 45:11Speaker 2: own allegiances and stuff like that. That's fine. But you
- 45:14Speaker 2: got to root for your teams.
- 45:15Speaker 3: That you live with. I'm dead serious, Brett. The allegiances
- 45:20Speaker 3: I had as a no-cal sports fan, like the 49ers
- 45:25Speaker 3: were my team. The Giants were my team. They're gone.
- 45:28Speaker 3: He's been here long enough. I don't give a rat's
- 45:31Speaker 3: ass about them anymore. And that's the way it should be.
- 45:33Speaker 3: I really don't. That's the way it should be. He
- 45:34Speaker 3: lives here. He lives in this community. I'm a Broncos, Nuggets, Habs,
- 45:38Speaker 3: Rockies dude. And that's the way it should be. Period.
- 45:40Speaker 2: Do you have a problem with me liking the Lions?
- 45:43Speaker 3: Yeah, you suck. Yeah, you're terrible. I don't have a
- 45:45Speaker 3: problem with it.
- 45:46Speaker 6: I do have a problem with you talking about it
- 45:48Speaker 6: all the time.
- 45:49Speaker 3: What do you mean?
- 45:50Speaker 6: Hey, listeners of 92.5, does everybody know that Brett Cain
- 45:56Speaker 6: is a Lions fan?
- 45:57Speaker 3: I'm just curious. Why do we know?
- 45:59Speaker 2: When's the last time I mentioned him?
- 46:02Speaker 3: In your sleep every day?
- 46:05Speaker 6: And I guess, see, when I lived in Austin, Texas,
- 46:08Speaker 6: when I lived in Phoenix, I didn't run around telling everybody.
- 46:13Speaker 2: True or false? Who has mentioned the Lions more?
- 46:16Speaker 3: Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett.
- 46:17Speaker 2: Is it me or Moshe? In recent memory.
- 46:20Speaker 3: Probably me. Yeah. Hey, Brett, I didn't run around telling people.
- 46:26Speaker 4: So Matt, our buddy Matt, you know Matt.
- 46:31Speaker 3: Our boss man.
- 46:32Speaker 6: So if I lived in Green Bay most of my
- 46:35Speaker 6: life and the Packers come to town, I shouldn't wear
- 46:38Speaker 6: my Packers jersey to the game?
- 46:40Speaker 3: No, you can. You can.
- 46:42Speaker 6: But if you're my next door neighbor, you're my next
- 46:44Speaker 6: door neighbor, and everybody on the block is rooting for
- 46:46Speaker 6: the Broncos, that week, you're dead to me.
- 46:50Speaker 2: That's all.
- 46:50Speaker 3: You just die. You die a little sooner to me.
- 46:52Speaker 2: That's just the way it is.
- 46:54Speaker 3: That's just the way it works.
- 46:55Speaker 2: You move to a place, you adopt those teams, you
- 46:58Speaker 2: have to root for which is why I'll never live
- 47:00Speaker 2: in Wisconsin.
- 47:02Speaker 3: I'll never do it.
- 47:03Speaker 2: I can't.
- 47:04Speaker 3: Drone strike.
- 47:05Speaker 2: By the way, very nice drone strike. People need to
- 47:08Speaker 2: leave first.
- 47:10Speaker 3: People out first. The qualifiers.
- 47:11Speaker 2: First of all, the 6 a.m. qualifier was Brendan Tucker,
- 47:15Speaker 2: so congratulations to Brendan. And this hour's qualifier is Jay Couch.
- 47:21Speaker 3: What?
- 47:22Speaker 2: Named after furniture.
- 47:24Speaker 3: Jay Couch.
- 47:26Speaker 4: This person writes in, Six, five, two, zero.
- 47:29Speaker 6: If you come into my house for any football game,
- 47:32Speaker 6: you're doing Bud Light from a Chiefs can. So why
- 47:36Speaker 6: do we have a Chiefs fan listening.
- 47:38Speaker 3: To this radio show on a loyal basis? I'm just curious.
- 47:42Speaker 6: What do you gain from listening to a Bronco station?
- 47:45Speaker 3: Essentially?
- 47:47Speaker 4: What, what, what is it you gain when it lives here?
- 47:50Speaker 3: Okay.
- 47:50Speaker 2: But I get the local sports talk radio.
- 47:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:55Speaker 2: Um, 303-504-0925 back after this.
- 47:58Speaker 3: What's up, Denver? This is Gabe Landeskog. I love my Broncos,
- 48:02Speaker 3: but Brett and Moj, our Lions, are playing tonight on
- 48:05Speaker 3: Altitude Sports Radio 92.5.