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Kendrick Lamar's Grammy Year, Drake's Snub & The Infinite Beef of 50 Cent and Irv Gotti #117 · The Grounded Show

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Speaker 1: So something we touched on a little earlier but didn't
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Speaker 1: really get into it because there's like a lot of
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Speaker 1: aspects and layers to it, is the Kendrick Grammys thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, so Kendrick won five.
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Speaker 1: Grammys, you know what I'm saying, basically off the back
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Speaker 1: of not.
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Speaker 2: Like us pretty much all but that's unprecedented, unprecedent first
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Speaker 2: time at this record has run, has won five Grammys.
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Speaker 2: Record of the Year, Song of the Year, Rap, Song
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Speaker 2: of the Year, Video of the Year performances like with
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Speaker 2: this record, which is.
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Speaker 1: Kind of crazy because I don't remember what exact award
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Speaker 1: it was, but I know Back to Back won some
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Speaker 1: kind of award when they dropped it.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't a Grammy though.
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Speaker 1: And I remember that was even a thing of like, dang, bro,
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Speaker 1: He's winning awards with this is like, that's crazy. And now, Bro,
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Speaker 1: the way that it came full circles.
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Speaker 2: And the whole audience was singing it, Beyonce, Taylor, Swift,
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Speaker 2: everybody's rocking. And then when he went up to accept
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Speaker 2: the award, what did you hear the whole entire Grammy
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Speaker 2: crowd saying a minor I'm saying, that's all premeditated. Bro,
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Speaker 2: that's all pre meditated from the they know how long
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Speaker 2: it was gonna take him to walk up to the
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Speaker 2: second he got on stage, that part will play. That's
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Speaker 2: not on accident, bro.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy that that was even on the table, Like
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Speaker 1: you would think that they're like, bro, play this part
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Speaker 1: of the song and that's it.
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Speaker 2: Because the whole speculation was like, is he gonna do
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Speaker 2: the super Bowl or is the super Bowl gonna allow
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Speaker 2: him to call Drake a pedophile in public?
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Speaker 1: And it not like us was in the super Bowl commercial.
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Speaker 2: Certified Lover Boys Certified that's played during the Grammys.
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Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro. And it even leads into the thing
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Speaker 1: of people saying like that the Grammys are basically getting
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Speaker 1: payback or revenge on Drake because he snubbed them, like
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, because he felt like he
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Speaker 1: was snubbed for Album of the Year.
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Speaker 2: When you well, the last award he won, he went
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Speaker 2: on stage and his stanky speech was saying doesn't mean anything. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's like, how are you going to do that? You're
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Speaker 2: accepted speech, you can do that after you're on Twitter
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Speaker 2: or something. And ever since then, he's never been back.
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Speaker 2: And I think they've held that grudge and this they
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Speaker 2: took this opportunity to say, all right, we're gonna get you.
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Speaker 1: Now, which album was it that he was mad they
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Speaker 1: didn't get Album of the Year?
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Speaker 2: Was it Take Care?
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Speaker 1: I know there was some album that he felt like
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Speaker 1: he should have got Album of the Year for that
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Speaker 1: he didn't get and that kind of like started the
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Speaker 1: whole thing. But it's so funny, man, because it's something
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Speaker 1: I had posted on threads too when people was responding
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Speaker 1: to it, where it's like, it's funny to me because
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Speaker 1: Drake fans love to stand on the Grammy thing as
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Speaker 1: to like show the industry's bs, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: But then when people were bringing up the numbers point
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Speaker 1: the Drake fans were not trying to hear. They were like,
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Speaker 1: oh no, no, Drake's the best selling artist. Bro.
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Speaker 2: They bring up the spot fine numbers and it's like, Bro.
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Speaker 1: These things are inflated. No, no, it's not inflated. This
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Speaker 1: isn't that. But what is Drake suing.
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Speaker 2: His recordation the same exact reason. So it's like, Bro,
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Speaker 2: for the same benefits he gets from setting outlets, he's
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Speaker 2: suing for it.
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Speaker 1: You can't say you can't take Drake's side because of
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Speaker 1: the Grammy thing, but then also try to use his
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Speaker 1: numbers to boost your argument that it's all inflated. The
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Speaker 1: Grammys is BS. We talked about it a little bit
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Speaker 1: with last year is Grammy with Killer Mike.
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Speaker 2: Bro all loves when Maclamore one that album?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that was the year that Kendrick Drop Good
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Speaker 1: Kid mass City. I think it was that Maclamore won
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Speaker 1: over him, you know what I'm saying. But uh with
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Speaker 1: the uh with the Killer Mike album, Killer Mike's Super Dope.
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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the type of music Killer Mike,
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Speaker 1: Killer Mike. So for me, for me to say Killing
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Speaker 1: Mike Grammy for a Rap Album of the Year, Bro,
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Speaker 1: that's so random. And nobody listening to kill Killer Mike. Bro,
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Speaker 1: I'm a Killer Mike fans, but nobody's listening to Killer Mike's.
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Speaker 1: I barely know anybody that even knows who Killer Mike is. Bro.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: My name one song, I can name a few, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And even people like people from our generation will remember
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Speaker 1: him from the whole world and from that from that.
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Speaker 2: To be running like Randy mouse yep.
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Speaker 1: So it's something that we recognize. But like, bro, you
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Speaker 1: go up to a twenty year old or something, I
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Speaker 1: don't know who him to win Album of the Year
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Speaker 1: the Grammys. He was politicing for it. Bro, The Grammys
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Speaker 1: is an award voted on by a select group of people.
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Speaker 1: You gotta get it in front of that group of
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Speaker 1: people and you got to get them to believe in
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Speaker 1: you for you to.
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Speaker 2: Get one thing. I noticed, So shout out to Kay
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Speaker 2: Sanat because he got a full blown access to the
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Speaker 2: Grammys and it was dope. And he made the president
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Speaker 2: of the Grammys. And it's a black guy. Okay, it's
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Speaker 2: a black dude. So is he the president of the committee? Problem? Okay? Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2: And it's crazy. So it's like, you get his influence,
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Speaker 2: you're gonna win a Grammy. That's just what it is,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And if you're not conceding
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Speaker 2: to that side of what he agrees with or whatever
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Speaker 2: the terms of what he puts forth the Grammys, you're
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Speaker 2: not getting that.
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Speaker 1: And the Grammys is even a thing where like you
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Speaker 1: get invited to vote to it, and it's a coveted invitation.
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Speaker 1: So they're not just they're not just giving it to
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Speaker 1: you straight based on merit. They're not just giving it
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Speaker 1: to you just cause, like this is a strategic thing,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Even when you talk about
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Speaker 1: NBA MVP, that's something that's done by a select group
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Speaker 1: of journalists. They choose who the journalists are that are
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Speaker 1: going to make.
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Speaker 2: Those votes, and it's one of the person that hates you,
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Speaker 2: just like when it's Lebron MVP and he got almost
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Speaker 2: Nanolis except for that one person. He knew who that
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Speaker 2: one person was immediately facts, so one person he in
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Speaker 2: fucked with.
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Speaker 1: H And same with you know, Shaq has that big
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Speaker 1: ripe of Steve Nash going back to back and taking
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Speaker 1: MVPs from him when he was putting up crazy members
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Speaker 1: and Steve Nash is putting up good, you know, decent numbers,
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Speaker 1: but it wasn't MVP numbers. But the argument on the
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Speaker 1: voter side was if you watch the games, you know
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Speaker 1: that the Phoenix Suns weren't going nowhere with Steve Nash,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that and that's the floor.
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Speaker 1: And even to like bringing back to like the Grammys
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Speaker 1: and the music stuff, is like you can always have
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Speaker 1: an argument for why somebody's dope. When you listen to
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Speaker 1: the music, you can have argument for Dre, you can
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Speaker 1: have an argument for you can have an argument for
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Speaker 1: Killer Mike. You could even have an argument for for Maclamore,
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Speaker 1: just depending on how you're listening to it.
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Speaker 2: I think it was who that this record was about
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Speaker 2: this year. It was a perfect start. That's that's it.
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Speaker 1: It was a perfect that's it.
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Speaker 2: If that this record was about anybody else, people in
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Speaker 2: general one.
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Speaker 1: And this is so this is my take on it.
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Speaker 1: And this coming from somebody that's not a Drake fan,
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Speaker 1: you know that. I feel like people just got so
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Speaker 1: tired of Drake winning and going number one so much
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Speaker 1: that it just got to the point where they reversed
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Speaker 1: on him. It's like, I love Drake.
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Speaker 2: So here's a shot. Here's our chance. Here's our chance
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Speaker 2: to go against the guy who thinks he's bigger than us.
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Speaker 2: Ex chance.
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Speaker 1: Somebody came along at the right time to have the
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Speaker 1: ability to stand total.
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Speaker 2: To it makes sense to everybody else Kenamar. Of course,
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Speaker 2: nobody's gonna doubt that. Facts, nobody's gonna doubt giving Kenadamar Grammy.
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Speaker 1: Now I say that, but I also say I was
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Speaker 1: very happy to watch it. I was very happy to
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Speaker 1: watch it because to me, it kind of goes back
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Speaker 1: to an argument that a lot of people say about
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Speaker 1: hip hop is there's a lot of people that come
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Speaker 1: in and kind of hoard out for their benefit. I've
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Speaker 1: always felt like Drake is one of those because he's
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Speaker 1: not of the culture. I mean, that's that's that's the
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Speaker 1: description that you know, he's a the pop culture. He's
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Speaker 1: up the pop culture, and he's very good at making
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Speaker 1: hip hop. You know what I'm saying. He's just a
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Speaker 1: talented guy that chose hip hop as his lane, and
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Speaker 1: his talent is just so much that he would just
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Speaker 1: broke through no matter what. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: I'll never take away his talent. Bro. But at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, Bro, you hear it. It sounds nice,
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Speaker 1: it's cool, but the feeling ain't there. Bro, He's a
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Speaker 1: Canadian dude that's not of the culture. Bro.
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Speaker 2: And Kendrick accepted the ward in the Canadian tuxedo. Bro,
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Speaker 2: it's icing on the fucking.
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Speaker 1: Cake facts man, YO. Shout out to Kendrick Man because
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Speaker 1: at this moment in time, he's probably the only one
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Speaker 1: that could have came out of that battle the winner.
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Speaker 2: But you know what, and to continue on where we're
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Speaker 2: going with this, he mastered the art of the beef facts.
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Speaker 2: Because everybody almost thought it was over. Everybody thought, Okay,
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Speaker 2: that was a good run. Kendrick won. Obviously the beef's gone.
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Speaker 2: He's gonna perform a Super Bowls all over. I think
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Speaker 2: that shit reignited the beef.
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Speaker 1: Bro. You know something that I feel like is one
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why Kendrick went so ham is something
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Speaker 1: from Tropic thunder Bro Ben Stiller at you know, they
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Speaker 1: were talking about why he didn't win the Oscar for
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Speaker 1: his simple Jack and then Robert Downey Jr. Says, well,
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Speaker 1: in the movie, yeah, in the movie. So Robert Downey Jr.
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Speaker 1: In the movie, as his character of a guy that's
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Speaker 1: playing a black dude, he says, you never go full R.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He's like, you never everybody
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Speaker 1: knows you never go full R. Bruh Drake, I mean Kendrick.
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Speaker 1: When it came to the Drake Beef Dog, Kendrick went
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Speaker 1: full R bro. And in this case, just the way
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Speaker 1: that the perfect storm was, Bro, people was ready for it.
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Speaker 2: And that's why you say you think this beef is
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Speaker 2: over lit the match up. It's not a rap and
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Speaker 2: like and that's what like. There's only certain beefs that
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Speaker 2: carry that longevity, Bro, facts that carry that. No, it's
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Speaker 2: not done.
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Speaker 1: But in that same vein that beef ain't nothing like
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Speaker 1: the IRV and fifty beef. Bro.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, like.
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Speaker 1: It might carry I'm making a prediction that the Kendrick
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Speaker 1: and Drake beef is going to resolve in the next
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Speaker 1: couple of years.
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Speaker 2: I think so.
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Speaker 1: I think so, Bro.
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Speaker 2: I think jay Z and I squashed it.
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Speaker 1: Was a different thing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: But even like IRV and fifty, Bro, everybody's talking about
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Speaker 1: this fifty cent post after IRV Gott he passed away.
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Speaker 1: Rest in peace, IRV Gotti, anybody passing away before their time. Bro,
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Speaker 1: it's a tough thing to deal with. Condolences to his family.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk.
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Speaker 1: But Dog fifty puts up a post of him smoking
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Speaker 1: a hookah the earth Pack, talking about he's smoking the
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Speaker 1: earth Pack and Bro Savage Day, buddy, guys, Bro.
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Speaker 2: Savage mode and my first and how long ago was
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Speaker 2: that at least twenty years ago.
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Speaker 1: Not more than twenty. I mean it's like twenty six,
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Speaker 1: twenty seven years by now. But so basically when I
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Speaker 1: seen that post, my immediate reaction was like dog fifty triven,
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Speaker 1: b Yeah, fifty triven. But then I think about it,
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Speaker 1: IRV got fifty stabbed?
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Speaker 2: Bro, Yeah I heard that.
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Speaker 1: You know, there was an incident where joh Rules chain
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Speaker 1: was taken by one of fifties associates. Then fifty drops
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Speaker 1: the song Life's on the Line, which ended up on
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Speaker 1: Get Richard Die Trying. It was actually a song he
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Speaker 1: dropped before he met Dre but ended up as one
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Speaker 1: of the last I think it was a bonus track
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Speaker 1: on getting Richard Trying, but it ended up on Geting
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Speaker 1: Richard Die Trying. It was before he even got shot.
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Speaker 1: So like if you that's another little sidebar easter egg
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Speaker 1: type thing, you listen to fifty cent get rich of
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Speaker 1: That Trying the last three tracks. I believe he sounds
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Speaker 1: different than the first fewtures.
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Speaker 2: I was produced at the same time because.
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Speaker 1: It was from a different time before he got shot
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Speaker 1: in the mouth, so his voice was even different. But
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Speaker 1: basically what happened was fifty Cents one of fifty cents
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Speaker 1: Homies robed jaw rule for his Shaine fifty cent talk
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Speaker 1: junk about basically murderinging jaw rule on lights on the line.
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Speaker 1: They had an incident in the studio in New York
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Speaker 1: in two thousand, so like a year later, maybe less
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Speaker 1: than a year later, fifty got stabbed at that incident.
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Speaker 1: Then after that incident was the infamous attack on fifty
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Speaker 1: where he got shot nine times. So basically when the
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Speaker 1: whole court case went down, with that whole thing, it
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Speaker 1: was always assumed slash insinuated that IRV Gotti has something
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Speaker 1: to do with it because he Supreme, which is the
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Speaker 1: guy that supposedly sent the hit out, was associated with
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Speaker 1: IRV Gotti. So they always believe that IRV has something
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Speaker 1: to do with it. So it's like, bruh, if a
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Speaker 1: dude tried to kill you dog and he passed away,
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Speaker 1: I don't feel like fifties wrong at no, no, no.
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Speaker 2: And that's that's one thing everybody got to realize. There's
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Speaker 2: a background to beefs right. So if you look at
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Speaker 2: Pack and Big, same situation as IRV and fifty. You
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Speaker 2: try to get me hit, You try to get me hit.
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Speaker 1: And again with IRV and with Biggie in this situation.
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Speaker 1: It was always a legend and nothing. But that's what
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Speaker 1: started the beef that the thing was pac and fifty
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Speaker 1: believed it. Yeah, so that's all that mattered.
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Speaker 2: But that's what I mean. So you think about the
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Speaker 2: longevity of this uh Pack died and Big died. If
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Speaker 2: they didn't die, it would have probably gone to this
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Speaker 2: extent where they were waiting for one of them each
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Speaker 2: other to die.
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Speaker 1: Facts, if you believe somebody put a hit on you
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Speaker 1: that they wanted you dead, brou I don't care what
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Speaker 1: happens to that.
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Speaker 2: See, And then we go back to like jay Z
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Speaker 2: and Os, it was they knew each other growing up
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Speaker 2: and then they stopped sucking with each other. It was
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Speaker 2: some shit over a chick Kent drink and Drake they
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Speaker 2: knew each other growing up in the game and they
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Speaker 2: just stop fucking with each other. It was nothing they
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Speaker 2: either of them try to put a hit or the
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Speaker 2: people trying to put a hit on the fact. That's
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Speaker 2: the difference about beefs today.
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Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I was saying, where I
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Speaker 1: feel like Drake and Kendrick will rekindle their friendship and
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Speaker 1: they're on the other side, they'll do something massive at
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Speaker 1: some point, because it's like broh at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, it ain't that deep. Yeah, it ain't that deep.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But like I said, if BIGGI and Park is
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Speaker 2: still alive, it's still be going on. And that's why,
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Speaker 2: like you said, you could side with fifty in this.
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Speaker 1: You could.
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Speaker 2: You've been waiting for the day where you didn't have
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Speaker 2: to do it yourself because you've been wanting to do
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Speaker 2: it yourself your whole life. Facts, if you put a
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Speaker 2: hit on me, I'm holding that shit to the death. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Facts. If you believe somebody literally wanted you dead, Bro,
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Speaker 1: ain't nowhere remorse, ain't no sympathy. If I hear you pass, Bro,
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Speaker 1: I'm probably doing the same thing Fifty doing. Bro putting
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Speaker 1: the post like like you know that that infamous post
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Speaker 1: of dude in the tucks and he's like pulling the
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Speaker 1: biggest hater.
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Speaker 2: Pull up to my sphener to make sure he did Bro.
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Speaker 1: He went to his biggest hater's funeral just to be like, Bro,
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Speaker 1: you dead, Bro, like dog It's crazy.
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Speaker 2: No, that's that's what I'm saying. Longevity and beef I
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Speaker 2: think attributes to ther origination of it. How originated the
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Speaker 2: backstory and it comes to you trying to take my
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Speaker 2: life or I just don't fuck.
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Speaker 1: It's that origin story, Bro. That's that's always the bases
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Speaker 1: of everything or anything we watch Bro story, hey man,
15:36
Speaker 1: and even like to kind of wrap it all up
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Speaker 1: and bring it all back. Before we even got on
15:40
Speaker 1: the pod, Bro, we was talking a lot about our
15:43
Speaker 1: origin stories, man, Like it really gives you a glimpse
15:47
Speaker 1: and a real feeling of like why somebody is the
15:52
Speaker 1: way they are when you really know what happened to them,
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Speaker 1: like growing up or before you met them, or just
15:58
Speaker 1: before they matured, and just things that kind of shape.
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Speaker 2: And it shows you why certain people, certain things matter
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Speaker 2: a lot and certain things don't. Facts, and that's it.
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Speaker 2: And there's certain things that matter a lots of people.
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Speaker 2: And if you cross that line, that's it. Facts. I'll
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Speaker 2: leave it there. Facts.
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Speaker 1: You gotta stay grounded and stay bod