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Chuck & Buck 10-20 Hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, Mariners, Mariners and more Mariners! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Devils Sports Radio three point three.
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Speaker 3: Excited for the opportunity, So yeah, uh, I think it's
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Speaker 3: a I guess that's a great opportunity. And obviously you
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Speaker 3: know plush this one. You know been been here before
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Speaker 3: and the and uh you know around before. So I
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Speaker 3: try to take that to our advantage and and come
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Speaker 3: out ready to go tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: I love the team down for sure. Wanted to win
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Speaker 4: it tonight and I have a great opportunity, but it's
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Speaker 4: on me. But the team's got a ton of play.
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Speaker 4: I think I believe we're gonna bounce back like we've
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Speaker 4: done all year.
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Speaker 1: And it's a game seven tomorrow. And obviously you th today,
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Speaker 1: how difficult is that to sort of be sitting and
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Speaker 1: watching and not being able to help my cycling.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, as it started to get pretty much one shot
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Speaker 5: with was today.
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Speaker 4: Uh, obviously we wanted to make it happen lunch and
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Speaker 4: be done with it, but just didn't do my job.
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Speaker 4: I'll show up in sporteen tomorrow and I know a
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Speaker 4: lot of guys in this room that have a ton
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Speaker 4: of fight, they're gonna step up tomorrow.
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Speaker 5: So I think they're gonna pick me up big time.
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Speaker 5: Where do you think the mental fortitude of this team.
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Speaker 6: Is right now?
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Speaker 1: I mean it's Game seven.
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Speaker 3: I think everyone's gonna come in tomorrow the same as.
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Speaker 1: We came in the start of the postseason. We just
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Speaker 1: want to win every single day, every inning, every single pitch,
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Speaker 1: and have fun while doing so, even if we're down.
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Speaker 5: No, there's no kind of give up attitude.
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Speaker 1: We're just we're really resilient and it's going to be
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Speaker 1: a fun day tomorrow. We're all excited for it. Well,
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Speaker 1: tomorrow is today now, Game seven today, five o'clock. George
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Speaker 1: Kirby versus Shane Bieber about everyone, Like the old line
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Speaker 1: from The Professional when Gary Oldman's like, give me everyone, everyone, sir, everyone,
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Speaker 1: I like that. We gotta find that clip.
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Speaker 5: I want to play it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it's gonna be like tonight. You heard
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Speaker 1: from cal there, you heard from Logan there, Logan really
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Speaker 1: taking responsibility. Let's pick him up. He's so nice. Let's
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Speaker 1: pick up Logan who did not have a good performance
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Speaker 1: last night and maybe shouldering too much of the responsibility
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Speaker 1: for last night six to two loss. But that's where
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Speaker 1: we set. Game number seven of the American League Championship
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Speaker 1: Series tonight in Toronto. Loser goes home, the winner goes
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Speaker 1: to the World Series to meet the Los Angeles Dodgers
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Speaker 1: starting on Friday. Greg Bell's going to join us here
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Speaker 1: in a moment. Let me rip through your frost brewed
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Speaker 1: cors Light choose chill headlines. Sounders went over the over
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Speaker 1: New York City two to one on Saturday. They now
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Speaker 1: know that they are going to start their playoff Monday
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Speaker 1: week from today at Minnesota against Minnesota United. Tomorrow is
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Speaker 1: the start of the NBA season, but who has time
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Speaker 1: to talk about it? In the NHL Cracking back in
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Speaker 1: action Tonight on this road trip, they'll be in Philadelphia.
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Speaker 1: They'll drop the pucket four o'clock against the Flyers. Got
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Speaker 1: you covered here on the flagship KJR. They're off to
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Speaker 1: a three to zero and two start, and apparently I've
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Speaker 1: decided to play all of their games in overtime and
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Speaker 1: even shootouts. That's what they're going to do for the
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Speaker 1: entire season.
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Speaker 5: Good plan.
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Speaker 1: Michigan got excuse me, Michigan mauled the Huskies on Saturday,
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Speaker 1: so you dub fails to get that big signature win
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Speaker 1: on the road under Jed Fish, it still is out there, lingering.
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Speaker 1: Michigan jumped into the top twenty five. Obviously, the Huskies
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Speaker 1: did not receive votes. Meanwhile, there was a shakeup in
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Speaker 1: college football, couple of undefeated teams, including number two Miami,
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Speaker 1: losing over the weekend. Indiana is now the new number two,
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Speaker 1: trailing only Ohio State atop the polls. National Football League,
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Speaker 1: it felt like separator week in the NFL. Some contenders
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Speaker 1: and pretenders met up and they were separated by the
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Speaker 1: outcomes of some blowouts on Sunday. And of course Mike
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Speaker 1: McDaniel is on job watch there in Miami. But the
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Speaker 1: week is not over. Tonight two Monday night football games,
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Speaker 1: so one will feature Detroit and Tampa Bay maybe in
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Speaker 1: the conversation for the do best teams in the NFC.
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Speaker 1: The other involves our Seahawks hosting the Houston Texans. To
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Speaker 1: join us to talk about it is our Seahawks insider
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Speaker 1: Greg Bell lots to do here today. What do you
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Speaker 1: think Game seven? What's your gut feel?
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Speaker 7: Man? Great, biggest game in Maren's history. I think George
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Speaker 7: Kirby has a short hook to say the least I
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Speaker 7: would have. I'd like to see Luis Castilla started games
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Speaker 7: like this. Like I said that earlier in the series.
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Speaker 7: I think Castilla is going to enter quickly early in
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Speaker 7: the game and he could be a big week key
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Speaker 7: for them. Man Carrero, he's a problem. That's that's a problem.
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Speaker 7: I say, they do it the hell this is. This
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Speaker 7: team is desite everybody anyway. It was never gonna be easy.
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Speaker 7: They were going, he's gonna do it the hard way.
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Speaker 7: I said, they do it. What do you say?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean I think they most certainly can.
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Speaker 8: It's got to go out next to you obviously, play
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Speaker 8: a cleaner game than they saw yesterday. Yeah, when you're
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Speaker 8: watching that, I mean, you chalk that up to nerves
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Speaker 8: just I don't know, just just natural that happens in baseball.
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Speaker 8: What's your thoughts on how they played so sloppy.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, some of it.
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Speaker 9: Has to be nerves right there in the customs and
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Speaker 9: something they've never done before. And they talked about it
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Speaker 9: after Game five in the clubhouse. They were talking about it. Yeah,
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Speaker 9: we know we've never been here and we're not shout
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Speaker 9: away from that. We know that, and then Juli Rodriguez
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Speaker 9: talked openly about that. So it wasn't just another game,
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Speaker 9: but a lot of games that happens, just in a
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Speaker 9: crucible like that. When it happens, it gets magnified and
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Speaker 9: then momentum and crowd and Toronto.
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Speaker 7: Just butchers every mistake you make. I think all that
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Speaker 7: had to do with it. But I would hope that
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Speaker 7: with some of it was nerves and that's not gonna
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Speaker 7: get any less. Nervous attens tonight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, whenever they get back in the corner,
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Speaker 1: it's usually when they play their best. As you pointed
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Speaker 1: to a little bit earlier. It just it's a strange team.
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Speaker 1: They don't do anything easy, that's for sure. No, no,
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Speaker 1: how are you going to manage this today? So you're
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Speaker 1: in Toronto? Now, what's going on with Seahawks coverage from
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Speaker 1: the news.
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Speaker 7: Well, the News Tribune decided that I'm gonna and I
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Speaker 7: get it. The Seahawks beat writers.
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to cover the Yeah, okay, I got.
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Speaker 7: Back at three in the morning. I'm gonna cover the
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Speaker 7: Seahawks game. And yeah, if if the Mariners pull this off,
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Speaker 7: I'll be in Dodger Stadium and this weekend.
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Speaker 1: Okay, look at that? Do you like that? Are you
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Speaker 1: having fun with it? Being the ide on Sanders some sports.
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Speaker 7: Coverage, It's fun. I'd rather be in Toronto, honestly, personally?
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Speaker 7: Is it just a sports fan and a person who
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Speaker 7: appreciates big events. I'd try to be in Game seven,
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Speaker 7: but I get it. It's my first job. And there's
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Speaker 7: some faith in those the news tribunes saying, well, just
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Speaker 7: go to the World Series, Greg, We'll just save it
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Speaker 7: for that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, it's fun.
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Speaker 7: No, it's fun, and I love Toronto and I love Yeah,
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Speaker 7: it's great. And I've got to actually spend Saturday in
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Speaker 7: most of Sunday in Boston with my daughter, head of
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Speaker 7: the Charles Regatta, which is amazing event. Three hundred thousand
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Speaker 7: people come to watch. It's amazing on the bridges and
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Speaker 7: it was a beautiful New England weekends. And I'm very fortunately.
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Speaker 7: I love my job and I love the news tribute
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Speaker 7: for send I mean, give me opportunities to cover great,
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Speaker 7: great things.
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Speaker 5: That Friday night game, Yeah.
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Speaker 10: That Friday game is probably the second loudest building I've
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Speaker 10: been in.
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Speaker 7: The first was the Kingdom for Edgar's double, but that
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Speaker 7: was close to that with the with the Grand Slam.
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Speaker 1: That was remarkable. Yeah, some good stuff. And we're we're yeah,
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Speaker 1: we were so fixed here on a Monday morning on
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Speaker 1: what just most recently happened. We spent a little bit
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Speaker 1: of time on Friday. But man, was that a great night?
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Speaker 7: Uh?
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Speaker 1: And man, we're May and Her fans fired up afterwards.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, you know, I.
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Speaker 7: Want to say what I don't bry it that it
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Speaker 7: doesn't matter if they don't win, but that that.
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Speaker 10: Grand Slam didn't matter and none of that.
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Speaker 7: No one will remember that, no way. This team, every game,
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Speaker 7: every game they win at this point is team history
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Speaker 7: and that will always be the Geno Slam will go
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Speaker 7: down in Seattle sports history like Sherman's tip and Edgar's double.
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Speaker 7: And yeah, if they don't go to the World Series,
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Speaker 7: it doesn't mean that that didn't happen and that the
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Speaker 7: building didn't shake, because it did. The stadium literally shook.
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Speaker 7: I was sitting in it, and it was the loudest,
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Speaker 7: one of the loudest moments in Seattle sports history. And yeah,
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't just say wow, it's a wasteed win. Tonight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're right, and we need to
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Speaker 1: give it its due because that was a remarkable, remarkable moment,
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Speaker 1: no question about it. So is the ground going to
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Speaker 1: shake tonight? You're a looming field. It's a Monday night football.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you got the baseball team kind of going
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Speaker 1: up against it for part of the game tonight. But
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Speaker 1: no doubt Mike McDonald wants to get back this legendary
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Speaker 1: home home field advantage. Yeah, they've turned into a great
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Speaker 1: road team here under his watch, but I'm sure that
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Speaker 1: he wants he wants to match that fervor tonight against
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Speaker 1: the Texans.
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Speaker 7: I think it'll it'll only shake if the Manors win.
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Speaker 7: During the first or second quarter of the Seahawks game,
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Speaker 7: there'll be a lot of people tuning into their phones
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Speaker 7: and watching the game, one eye on the Seahawks and
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Speaker 7: one and a half eyes on the Manor. They're nine
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Speaker 7: and eleven at home. The Seahawks are since twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 7: nine and eleven.
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Speaker 10: I mean, that's like the New York Jets might have
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Speaker 10: a record probably worth well, it's.
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Speaker 1: Nine and eleven without having a bad team, Like that's
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Speaker 1: the that's what you got.
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Speaker 7: Ten win team exactly, and the team that before that
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Speaker 7: had nine wins and exactly, you can say it's inexplicable.
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Speaker 7: When they don't play well, they lose. And a lot
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Speaker 7: of times they don't play well on defense at home.
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Speaker 7: Look at the Tampa Bay game. We've talked about this.
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Speaker 7: They've yet to play a complete game.
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Speaker 10: They haven't run the ball that would sure help Houston tonight.
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Speaker 10: Mike McDonald talked about this this week in Houston's defense
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Speaker 10: happened to lead the league and points allowed, and they
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Speaker 10: just went to Baltimore before they're buying forty four to ten.
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Speaker 10: They beat the Ravens, and we know the Ravens have problems,
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Speaker 10: but McDonald, you for sure, has given full attention to
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Speaker 10: that and shown his team.
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Speaker 7: The tape of that. But they only give up twelve
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Speaker 7: points a game on defense. And McDonald's saying that their
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Speaker 7: pass rush is unique. It is different than what the
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Speaker 7: Seahawks especially do, is that they run vertically straight up
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Speaker 7: the field.
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Speaker 10: They have Will.
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Speaker 7: Anderson and the former Minnesota Viking his name is escaping
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Speaker 7: right at the top of him. As soon as I
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Speaker 7: wrote about him, lest Daniel Hunter, Daniel Hunter, thank you,
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Speaker 7: and former pro bowler with the Vikings. He's leading the team.
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Speaker 7: He's got four sacks and five games. Will Anderson has
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Speaker 7: three sacks. Those guys run straight up the field, so
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Speaker 7: they're not.
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Speaker 11: Worried about rush gap integrity or the gap they might
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Speaker 11: have the lanes, how wide the lane might be inside
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Speaker 11: of them from the quarterback to step, and they're running
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Speaker 11: straight up the field and trying to have the offensive
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Speaker 11: tackle beat you to the spot basically.
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Speaker 10: And so McDonald's was saying, how that's got his attention,
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Speaker 10: the way they passed rush so vertically up the field
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Speaker 10: so quickly, And that's what puts the big onus on
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Speaker 10: Abe Lucas and Charles Cross outside of tackles. I would
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Speaker 10: expect them, especially with Lucas, to help chip him with
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Speaker 10: tight end. Might see two tight ends a lot when
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Speaker 10: they throw tonight to help Lucas in particulars have some
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Speaker 10: troubles in one on one pass rush. But that's a key,
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Speaker 10: big key tonight is how they.
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Speaker 7: Handle the vertical, quick upfield pass rush.
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Speaker 10: That the Texans have.
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Speaker 7: And I keep saying it, but they're going to try
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Speaker 7: to run the ball, and they're gonna try to run
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Speaker 7: the ball against all defenses. Good in this one we'll
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Speaker 7: see if tonight's tonight they finally get the running game
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Speaker 7: going consistently. When I look at numbers and see that
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Speaker 7: they're twenty fourth in the NFL, they seem worse than
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Speaker 7: that against the run rushing the ball, don't. It doesn't
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Speaker 7: seem like I mean, there's only been one one hundred
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Speaker 7: yard rushing day by a Seahawk and that was way
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Speaker 7: back in Week two for Kenneth Walker against the Steelers.
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Speaker 7: At seventy nine of his one hundred and five happened
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Speaker 7: in the second half that night that day in Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 7: They're gonna keep running. It is tonight the night they
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Speaker 7: finally get some traction running the ball against a really
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Speaker 7: active pass defensive pass rush for Houston.
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Speaker 5: Do they have to be successful at it?
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Speaker 8: Or is just showing it, you know, being consistent in
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Speaker 8: showing it and trying it enough. I mean, because the
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Speaker 8: numbers are starting to look like that. You know, Sam
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Speaker 8: Darnold's having a good year and he's doing really well
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Speaker 8: in play action passing. So is it necessary for them
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Speaker 8: to be successful running or do they just have to
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Speaker 8: keep being committed to it and making sure that it's honored.
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Speaker 7: I think it is Bucky and they say it is
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Speaker 7: They say they they not only they want to, they
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Speaker 7: need to because how they're built. It's what the system
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Speaker 7: is predicated on. You look at their play actions and passes,
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Speaker 7: and well just quick game for instance, in bubble screens
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Speaker 7: or a quick slam patterns. Is there anything that's a
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Speaker 7: quick game pass game. What has happened often is that
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Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage is just there's no room. There's
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Speaker 7: no room to run, there's often no room to throw.
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Speaker 7: The teams sometimes stack the box against them and added
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Speaker 7: after safety down to the box. That is some of
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Speaker 7: the reasons, in simple terms, why they've thrown the ball
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Speaker 7: down the field. There's more room down there, and they've
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Speaker 7: had time throwing the ball because the offensive line has
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Speaker 7: done pretty well in pass protection. You could make the
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Speaker 7: case that they had what are you talking about, Well,
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Speaker 7: they don't need to run the ball. Look at Donald's
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Speaker 7: are almost seventy percent passer and he's nine almost ten
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Speaker 7: yards a throw, which is leaving the league. Well, I
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Speaker 7: don't think this is sustainable against San Francisco in the RAMS.
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Speaker 7: I keep saying this, but they ain't going anywhere till
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Speaker 7: they beat San Francisco in the Rams and they didn't
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Speaker 7: beat San Francisco. They should have did. And I hadn't
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Speaker 7: play the Rams yet, but they're win the division until
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Speaker 7: they do, and I don't think they can win the division.
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Speaker 7: Just smoking mere for pretending wink wink to run the ball.
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Speaker 7: They've got of control games against those teams running the football.
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Speaker 1: To me, all right, what's the latest on the injury front.
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Speaker 1: We got Spoon and Love back to Love and spoonful.
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Speaker 7: Nah, he had done that. It looked like middle of
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Speaker 7: the week. Yeah, they were both back to practice and
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Speaker 7: then they weren't practicing fully. They were unlimited by the
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Speaker 7: end of the week, and then they listened them as
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Speaker 7: questionable for the game tonight. McDonald. We asked him. He
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Speaker 7: was asked on Saturday after practice, did they have to
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Speaker 7: practice Witherspoon and Love? Do they have to do a
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Speaker 7: workout pregame to test these injuries to before they make
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Speaker 7: the decision, And that's usually the final step of guys
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Speaker 7: who were really on the cuss and McDonald said no,
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Speaker 7: which means they've already made up their mind. And I
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Speaker 7: think Spoon's case, they may not play him because there's
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Speaker 7: a buy coming up after this game and give him
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Speaker 7: two weeks off. Love seemed to be the Thursday when
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Speaker 7: I was out there at practice before the Mariners game,
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Speaker 7: Love was moving pretty well, and I know it's just
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Speaker 7: the beginning of practice. He looked though he running fluidly.
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Speaker 7: Didn't he looked like he was fully participating and started
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Speaker 7: practice and when I saw him Thursday, So he's playing.
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Speaker 7: So if you just had to tell, if you put
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Speaker 7: money down, what would you bet on? What would you
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Speaker 7: guess that Witherspoon won't play to get the extra two
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Speaker 7: weeks this weekend next because of the buye that Love
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Speaker 7: will play all right?
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Speaker 1: So what's key tonight?
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Speaker 7: The pass rush containing the outside eddresses. I said, I
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Speaker 7: think they're going to start running the ball at some
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Speaker 7: point in the season because they're going to commit to
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Speaker 7: but one of the offensive linemen going to push back.
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Speaker 7: The defensive is it going to be the number one
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Speaker 7: scoring defense, the fourth overall defense of the league. That's
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Speaker 7: their task tonight. That's the key tonight. And then defensively,
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Speaker 7: c J Stroud. Everyone thinks c J. Stroud has had
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Speaker 7: a terrible season because they started own three Texans have
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Speaker 7: won two in a row, and Stroud has eight touchdowns
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Speaker 7: and three interceptions and as a sixty five plus percent passer,
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Speaker 7: make him make turnovers. He by pressuring him like any
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Speaker 7: quarterback who's prone the mistakes, but he is has faked
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Speaker 7: of turnovers at times. The pass rush had seven sacks
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Speaker 7: last week against Trevor Lawrence. I don't think they're getting
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Speaker 7: seven at night. I think that Stroud's going to be
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Speaker 7: more elusive than Trevor Lawrence was. So I'm expecting something
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Speaker 7: of a slog of a game both teams and the
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Speaker 7: team scoring and the Seahawks with some big play by
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Speaker 7: Donald the Smith and Jigbin the fourth quarter win some
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Speaker 7: like sixteen thirteen something like that.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be a memorable evening in Seattle
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Speaker 1: sports here tonight.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, no getting around that.
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Speaker 7: Yes it is. We already had a memorable month, but yeah,
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Speaker 7: this is this is unique.
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Speaker 1: All right, Greg, thank you, appreciate it, and we will
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Speaker 1: catch up tomorrow. All right, enjoy the game, all right,
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Speaker 1: Greg Bell Jet Center joining us right here on Chugubuck
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Speaker 1: I hope that's the way it is.
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Speaker 1: Uh, it's a game seven time man, and we are
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Speaker 1: Mariner fans good vibe last night. Even though the game
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Speaker 1: did not turn out the way that we wanted it
19:18
Speaker 1: to and unfortunately Logan and Cal were sort of at
19:22
Speaker 1: the heart of it, maybe our two favorite guys on
19:25
Speaker 1: the entire damn team, maybe in the entire damn world,
19:28
Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert and Cal Rawley. Logan had another rough outing
19:32
Speaker 1: and he took all the blame himself. Of course, he
19:35
Speaker 1: doesn't shoulder at all. Cal probably had the worst game
19:37
Speaker 1: that he's had this entire season, three strikeouts to double
19:41
Speaker 1: play at a crucial moment, and error he allowed another
19:45
Speaker 1: wild pitch. He didn't absorb another wild pitch which.
19:48
Speaker 5: Led to the air.
19:49
Speaker 1: So they both had rough outings. And I had such
19:51
Speaker 1: high hopes. I mean even the national broadcast kind of
19:55
Speaker 1: bought into the Logan and Cal drafted together. These guys
19:59
Speaker 1: are best buddies. They've been on this ride hand in
20:02
Speaker 1: hand the entire time, former roommates and everything else. Uh,
20:06
Speaker 1: and here they were the battery for the opportunity to
20:09
Speaker 1: close out the Alcs and make it to the World
20:13
Speaker 1: Series for the first time in franchise history. I mean,
20:15
Speaker 1: the script was written, it was just all there for it,
20:18
Speaker 1: and are you know, two of our favorite guys leading
20:21
Speaker 1: the way and it just didn't happen last night.
20:23
Speaker 8: Well, it wouldn't have been any fun. I mean that
20:25
Speaker 8: was Game six, yeah exactly. When you can have a
20:29
Speaker 8: yeah ror.
20:30
Speaker 1: We played in a game six before, Yeah exactly.
20:32
Speaker 8: Are a more intense situation And I was only a
20:36
Speaker 8: pucker last night.
20:37
Speaker 1: I mean, right until you get to one hundred percent.
20:39
Speaker 8: What's the point exactly? I mean, and I think that
20:42
Speaker 8: they understand that. I think that they understand it. I mean,
20:45
Speaker 8: it's this is a team. I mean, yeah, I mean
20:49
Speaker 8: the idea logan Gilbert didn't look like himself and he
20:53
Speaker 8: hasn't been effective either start in this series. And and
20:56
Speaker 8: who and you know, col didn't look like himself necessary
21:00
Speaker 8: either on most of those strikeouts, there was a couple
21:03
Speaker 8: of them that were well pitched. And yet I just
21:06
Speaker 8: there's a part of me say, that's the nature of
21:08
Speaker 8: the Beast. You are going to have games that you
21:11
Speaker 8: don't look good. Now, mental mistakes based running errors, like
21:17
Speaker 8: poor approaches that turn into double plays. Those are things
21:20
Speaker 8: you have to make changes on because you're going against
21:22
Speaker 8: a team that does figure out how to put the
21:25
Speaker 8: ball in play, and they do play the game as
21:28
Speaker 8: far as moving guys over there. They don't live and
21:31
Speaker 8: die just by the long ball the way that the
21:33
Speaker 8: Mariners tend to. And so if you're not going to
21:37
Speaker 8: hit the long ball, and so then you're going to
21:39
Speaker 8: be finding yourself in you know, really close games or
21:42
Speaker 8: tight games, low scoring games, then you're putting a lot
21:46
Speaker 8: of pressure on yourself to pitch really, really well. You
21:50
Speaker 8: then have to pick it behind the guy that's out
21:52
Speaker 8: there pitching when he does let the ball get put
21:54
Speaker 8: in play. And and they just didn't do anything. It
21:57
Speaker 8: was it was kind of the overall cause and effect.
22:00
Speaker 8: There was a whole bunch of things that were done wrong,
22:03
Speaker 8: and that's where you find yourself on the losing end
22:05
Speaker 8: and really never feel like you were in it.
22:07
Speaker 1: Of course, the Dodgers will wait. Game one of the
22:09
Speaker 1: World Series will be on Friday, So whoever wins tonight,
22:12
Speaker 1: we'll meet the Dodgers starting on Friday. They look like
22:16
Speaker 1: a runaway truck right now, the Los Angeles Dodgers. They're
22:19
Speaker 1: pitching as the healthiest it's been all season long. Show
22:22
Speaker 1: Hey is on his game pitching wise, and obviously put
22:26
Speaker 1: on a show Friday night. But Sarah Lang, who is
22:30
Speaker 1: the prized researcher at MLB Network and also ESPN, she
22:35
Speaker 1: mentioned something last night in her research. Apparently, in the
22:39
Speaker 1: history of Major League Baseball, there have been four times
22:43
Speaker 1: where one of the league championship series was a sweep
22:47
Speaker 1: and the other one went to Game seven. Four times
22:50
Speaker 1: in the history of Major League Baseball have we had that?
22:54
Speaker 1: And all four times the team that swept the previous
22:58
Speaker 1: round lost in the World Series.
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Speaker 5: How about that?
23:02
Speaker 1: Oh?
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Speaker 5: Make interesting? How about that? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Yeah you think that? Okay, a dominant team is a
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Speaker 1: waiting just like the For example, the eighty eight A's
23:13
Speaker 1: that lost to Kirk Gibson and the Dodgers. You think
23:17
Speaker 1: the dominant team is sitting there just waiting and licking
23:19
Speaker 1: its chops. But in the history of baseball, that team
23:22
Speaker 1: that came away with the sweep has never beaten the
23:25
Speaker 1: team that went the distance in the league championship series.
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Speaker 5: Yeah four, oh win all right? Good, at least we.
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Speaker 8: I think this weekend felt like we got a little
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Speaker 8: I think one of the really bad teams is the
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Speaker 5: I think they beat them by a couple of touchdowns.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, look at that. He just has that much confidence.
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Speaker 8: Okay, taking next week's games. I don't want to take
24:59
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Speaker 1: down starting at eight o'clock. Also, Ryan Healy's gonna be
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Speaker 1: spend trigger the other it matters. We've game five, six
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Speaker 1: to two. We spent pretty much our entire first hour
27:54
Speaker 1: today recapping the frustration of game number six, and we're
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Speaker 1: gonna spend our entire clock hour kind of previewing the
28:03
Speaker 1: exhilaration of game number seven. But man, we got to
28:07
Speaker 1: tuck somewhere into this radio program this morning, the unbelievable
28:12
Speaker 1: moment that was Game five and Gino Swarez's grand slam
28:18
Speaker 1: that it gave the team the lead at six to two,
28:20
Speaker 1: trailed most of that game and then come back there
28:24
Speaker 1: in the bottom of the eighth inning with a five spot.
28:27
Speaker 1: Just incredible. You just heard the call from Fox Sports.
28:31
Speaker 1: We were there in the building. The place was shaking.
28:35
Speaker 1: That was one of the great moments in Seattle sports history,
28:38
Speaker 1: authored by Geno Suarez, and all the build up leading
28:42
Speaker 1: up to it and then the fanfare afterwards, I mean
28:45
Speaker 1: the energy that came bursting through the doors. We went
28:49
Speaker 1: over like a half inning early to get set up
28:51
Speaker 1: for the postgame show and then to watch one miron
28:54
Speaker 1: Er fan. I mean there were fifty year old men
28:57
Speaker 1: coming out and then they're jumping on each other, jumping
28:59
Speaker 1: on us, you know everything else. It was fantastic Friday night.
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's the biggest game, you know, to date
29:07
Speaker 8: until today. I think today kind of trumps it just
29:10
Speaker 8: because of the impact and how much is weighing on it.
29:13
Speaker 8: And yet that one was after you went to their place,
29:17
Speaker 8: lose to at your place. That pivotal game, which is
29:20
Speaker 8: a Game five that then does allow one team the
29:23
Speaker 8: luxury of playing a subpar ball game and still having
29:26
Speaker 8: a chance to advance.
29:27
Speaker 1: To the World Series.
29:28
Speaker 8: It's as big as we've ever had here in Seattle
29:33
Speaker 8: Mariner's history, in my opinion, And to find yourself down
29:37
Speaker 8: and all of the little things that you had to do,
29:41
Speaker 8: that little moments in the game, the double play where
29:45
Speaker 8: that line drive to Naylor, you doubled up what's his
29:48
Speaker 8: name at second base, that other double play that that
29:51
Speaker 8: cow turned, all of that, getting out of that jam
29:54
Speaker 8: with the bases loaded, and you get out of that
29:56
Speaker 8: whole thing. There were so many things that were crazy.
29:59
Speaker 5: It's just so much.
30:00
Speaker 8: I got the tension that was in the air, and
30:01
Speaker 8: obviously the crowd was just on fire for what's going on.
30:05
Speaker 8: And then for cal to hit the game tying home run,
30:08
Speaker 8: that moonshot that almost hits the roof. And then Gino,
30:12
Speaker 8: the guy that really hadn't checked in for the most
30:15
Speaker 8: part throughout the postseason town.
30:17
Speaker 1: In the regular season. Yeah, since he's come here.
30:20
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, and yet he he checked in with the
30:23
Speaker 8: first pitch, a home run that he'd hit earlier that
30:26
Speaker 8: kind of gave us the lead. Then we relinquished that
30:28
Speaker 8: lead for him to come up their bases loaded, nowhere
30:31
Speaker 8: to put him have a good ab. It wasn't just
30:34
Speaker 8: a first pitch, you know, hacking and you run into
30:36
Speaker 8: one a good ab and to go opo grand slam.
30:40
Speaker 8: I mean that place it was literally shaking mm.
30:43
Speaker 5: And it was awesome.
30:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was incredible. Yeah.
30:45
Speaker 6: I was watching at home while hosting eight other children
30:50
Speaker 6: for an eleven year old sleepover birthday party. I had
30:54
Speaker 6: warned Palmer, Hey, by the way, just so you know,
30:56
Speaker 6: Palmer A the great, there's a chance that the Mariners
30:58
Speaker 6: game is going to be on in the living room
30:59
Speaker 6: if playing on Friday night, so you just got to
31:01
Speaker 6: be prepared. She's like, oh, that's fine, that's fine. Well,
31:04
Speaker 6: they were running around screaming. Then a couple moms had
31:07
Speaker 6: stayed to watch the game, and we'd be like when
31:09
Speaker 6: when Gino got his first home run and when Cal
31:12
Speaker 6: got his home run, and then they'd all.
31:14
Speaker 1: Come running in.
31:15
Speaker 6: Yeah, they'd all jump up and down, and then they'd leave,
31:18
Speaker 6: and then they'd then they'd hear something exciting, and then
31:21
Speaker 6: they'd all come running in, and then they'd all jump
31:23
Speaker 6: up and.
31:23
Speaker 1: Down and then they'd leave. Yeah. I was like, I know,
31:26
Speaker 1: I committed to this. We have to do it, But
31:28
Speaker 1: I am locking you guys in this room. I should have. Yeah,
31:33
Speaker 1: here's some snacks and some drinks. Yeah, and here's some
31:37
Speaker 1: here's I got a honey pot for you, perfect little
31:41
Speaker 1: portable toilet for you all. I don't even want to
31:43
Speaker 1: see you. We're watching the game.
31:45
Speaker 7: Yeah.
31:45
Speaker 6: Well, and that's the nice thing is at least no
31:47
Speaker 6: one came in was like trying to have a dance
31:48
Speaker 6: party in front of the TV. Or they were all
31:50
Speaker 6: get kicked out. Oh, they were playing elsewhere until something
31:53
Speaker 6: exciting happened, then they'd come running in.
31:56
Speaker 1: Well, I really think that that cow moment, you know,
31:59
Speaker 1: the one that brought rain that home run, I don't
32:02
Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen a home run that was
32:06
Speaker 1: longer in doubt. I mean, the anticipation of it, coupled
32:11
Speaker 1: with the height of it, It was like, is this
32:13
Speaker 1: gonna leave or not? Eventually gravity did reveal to us
32:18
Speaker 1: that it was far enough, just far enough, And I
32:21
Speaker 1: think it kind of unlocked that entire inning. Certainly, Geno's
32:24
Speaker 1: gonna have his place in Mariner's history forever with the
32:27
Speaker 1: Grand Slam. But I kind of think that, like the
32:29
Speaker 1: Cow moment is what it might have even been a
32:32
Speaker 1: bigger moment because you had to have the run to
32:35
Speaker 1: try to tie that thing up, and then I think
32:37
Speaker 1: the rest of the lineup kind of relaxed after that.
32:40
Speaker 1: Now Softy brought up in our post game show after
32:44
Speaker 1: he spit in my mouth, Oh you liked it. Yeah,
32:47
Speaker 1: it was accidental, but he did it.
32:49
Speaker 5: It happened.
32:50
Speaker 1: No, no, it didn't really ask for it, kind of
32:53
Speaker 1: got ambushed. Frankly, would you ask for it next time? No, no, no, no, no,
32:58
Speaker 1: never asked for before. We'll never ask for the But
33:01
Speaker 1: he brought up like he thought maybe the mood had
33:03
Speaker 1: changed with the hit by pitch of George Springer, and
33:07
Speaker 1: we haven't really discussed this yet. Look, John Schneider, forty
33:11
Speaker 1: thousand people weren't cheering that George Springer was hurt. There
33:15
Speaker 1: were some, Yeah, there were some. But when you have
33:18
Speaker 1: that many people inside the building and there's that much
33:21
Speaker 1: intensity and there's that much of a downtime, and they
33:24
Speaker 1: already don't like the guy.
33:25
Speaker 5: All right.
33:26
Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that we booed an injured player.
33:29
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody should ever do that or cheer
33:32
Speaker 1: an injured player. There was a little bit of mixture
33:34
Speaker 1: of the two. I don't like that, but it happens
33:38
Speaker 1: almost with every fan base at some point, and I
33:41
Speaker 1: love that people found examples of when Toronto fans did
33:46
Speaker 1: it to opposing players, not just in baseball but in
33:49
Speaker 1: a lot of different sports. So don't get on your
33:52
Speaker 1: high horse hypocrites, you know. And John Schneider trying to
33:56
Speaker 1: stir something that really wasn't there. And then last night
33:59
Speaker 1: Springer take it's a high pitch inside from Carlos Vargas,
34:02
Speaker 1: and all the fans were like, why are they throwing him? Now?
34:05
Speaker 1: Oh he did was good hit by a pitch. Hey,
34:08
Speaker 1: Carlos Vargas has no idea where the ball is going.
34:11
Speaker 1: That was so unintentional that I can't even express it
34:16
Speaker 1: to you. But John Schneider's trying to use that, I
34:19
Speaker 1: guess has a little bit of fuel whatever it takes
34:21
Speaker 1: to get them across the finish line. But I think
34:25
Speaker 1: being a little melodramatic. If you ask me, you're not
34:27
Speaker 1: even the best John Schneider in sports.
34:30
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's tough to do. It's not that common
34:33
Speaker 8: of a name. But I do think it was completely
34:36
Speaker 8: overblown the whole There's, yeah, some people that don't like him,
34:39
Speaker 8: I don't like him. He was an astro that he
34:42
Speaker 8: was part of the cheating scandal. I don't I don't
34:44
Speaker 8: ever wish injury upon someone that said I don't have
34:48
Speaker 8: one bit of remorse about him getting hurt.
34:51
Speaker 5: He didn't get injured. He got hurt.
34:53
Speaker 1: It hurt him, Ali, you'll get over it.
34:56
Speaker 5: It hit him in the knee.
34:57
Speaker 8: If it hit him in the face and people were
34:59
Speaker 8: cheery or whatever, I'd be like, come on, you got
35:02
Speaker 8: to check yourself. That's that's a totally different hit him
35:05
Speaker 8: in the knee, and so get off your high horses, right,
35:07
Speaker 8: nobody's too good to be able to call everybody out
35:12
Speaker 8: for something you think is not nice. I agree, it's
35:15
Speaker 8: not nice to do it. And yet at the same time,
35:17
Speaker 8: when you find yourself in George Springer situation, you're gonna
35:21
Speaker 8: have people that just dislike you period. Even though he
35:24
Speaker 8: might be a really good dude. I'm sure that he
35:26
Speaker 8: probably is a really good dude and a good teammate.
35:29
Speaker 8: But it's sports hate, and so he got hitting the
35:32
Speaker 8: knee it is. It wasn't a grenade. I don't think
35:35
Speaker 8: Brian wu switched the baseball into a grenade that blew
35:38
Speaker 8: his knee up. He played the very next game, so yeah,
35:41
Speaker 8: tell me it's kind of stop.
35:44
Speaker 7: Well.
35:44
Speaker 6: And also I'm sure that some of the cheering to
35:46
Speaker 6: start was that he got hit from Blue Jays fans
35:48
Speaker 6: because now he's on base, which you I mean, Randy
35:50
Speaker 6: got hit and everyone even Randy cheered when he got
35:53
Speaker 6: hit and went to first base and so and then
35:55
Speaker 6: the other part of the booing, too was Blue Jays
35:57
Speaker 6: fans booing Brian wu for hitting him. So it was
36:00
Speaker 6: a combination of things, and John Schneider decided to make
36:02
Speaker 6: it all about people being He decided to George Springer stir.
36:06
Speaker 1: Up the hornets nest in his press press conference afterwards,
36:10
Speaker 1: I'll say this, maybe you know, George Springer, I mean,
36:15
Speaker 1: if he would have really been fortunate, he would have
36:17
Speaker 1: got to first base and found that there was a
36:20
Speaker 1: barber shop there so that they could fix that horrible
36:23
Speaker 1: hair of his. All right, coming up next, we're going
36:26
Speaker 1: to preview game number seven, and Ryan Heally's going to
36:29
Speaker 1: be joining us at eight point thirty. We'll get his
36:31
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