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The Government Always Gets It's Money · Plausibly Live - The Dave Bowman Show Podcast

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  From the On Air Across America NEWSROOM.
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  I'm Alex Ross and this is your Morning News update.
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  An Associated Press investigation says military
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  commanders knew a Kuwaiti logistics site lacked effective
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  drone defenses before moving American troops there.
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  An Iranian drone struck Port Shuiba on March 1st, killing six
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  briefings and classified information reviews.
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  The Supreme Court begins its new term today.
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  The justices will hear a climate lawsuit involving state
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  American B1 and B52 bombers have left RAF Fairford, while British
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  For the On Air Across America network, I'm Alex Ross.
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  culture, common sense, and the occasional trip down the rabbit
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  hole. This is plausibly live The Dave
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  Bowman Show. Well, good morning, good evening
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  or good afternoon, wherever you are, whatever you do.
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  A lot of things happening in the world today, most of them are
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  far beyond our control, you might say.
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  So perhaps it's time we took a pause and thought about life and
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  thought about the laws of gravity, government spending.
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  Why does government always seem to get their way in everything?
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  There's a reason why. And when you understand it, it's
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  it's one of those confirmation bias things.
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  Once you see it, you can't Unsee it and it will just piss you
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  off. We'll talk about that.
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  We'll talk about North Korean nukes.
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  They're back in the news again. Ferry system is down and why
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  Dave doesn't read emails. Text the show 209565 Dave,
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  209-565-3283 and also leave me voicemails at that number.
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  Once again, 209565 Dave. The e-mail is
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  dave@thedavebowmanshow.com, although we'll talk about that
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  here in just a moment. It's a lot of stuff happening,
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  man. I'm supposed to be on a ferry
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  tomorrow to go to the other side of the Sound, but ferry system
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  has collapsed here in Washington, and things are going
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  nuts around here right now. So let's see what happens.
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  A loqui Conicio, stand up. Tell those who oppose liberty
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  don't tread on me. So as you know, generally
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  speaking, I do not read e-mail. I think e-mail is one of the
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  most evil things ever invented. I really do.
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  Emails lead to difficulties in communication.
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  They lead to misunderstandings. It's it's too hard.
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  Too many people type emails when they're mad and it comes across
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  as mad. Maybe they didn't mean it that
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  way. Maybe it just sounded that way.
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  I tend to, in my business communications, I tend to be
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  extraordinarily formal. In fact, I had a boss who Once
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  Upon a time complained about the fact that you're just too formal
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  in your communication when it comes to writing.
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  And the reason I'm that way is because I want to avoid
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  misunderstandings. And that's hard to do if you
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  don't do things right. So the bottom line here is that
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  I, I my policy to e-mail to the show has always been, I have
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  one, I'll skim them. But early in my radio career, it
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  was a regular occurrence to get, I, I swear to God, 10/20/30 page
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  emails that were incredibly detailed and the gist of which
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  the thrust of which was, you're doing this wrong.
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  Why aren't you talking about this thing that matters to me?
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  And you know, you learn pretty early in this business that you
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  can't get away from those. And so the way I get away from
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  it as best I can is to go Ding, delete, Ding, delete, Ding,
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  delete. But I did get a couple of emails
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  this weekend, which of which I read to the first one I want to
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  share with you because this one made me happy.
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  Says, Hey, Dave and Rod, and this is this is this is vis A
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  vis what the frock on Sunday, which if you didn't listen to,
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  you should. But if you haven't listened to
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  Bill's Friday show, you won't get the joke.
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  The three of us constantly pinging on each other.
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  And so when, when Bill had a little brouhaha with Taco his
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  dog on on Friday's show, of course, we couldn't let that go.
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  And so we, we brought a we, we, we made we, we kind of poked a
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  lot of fun at Bill on, on on our show on Sunday about his Friday
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  show Taco. And, and we even had stories
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  about tacos and Taco Bell and the likes of that.
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  So this e-mail comes in. Hey, Dave and Rod hilarious poke
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  at Bill Mick with the dog barking throughout your last WTF
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  show exclamation point. So he really meant it.
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  I was waiting for the payoff at the end and you guys delivered.
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  We did. I'd like to sit here and tell
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  you it was all you know, generic and organic and all that, but we
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  planned that pretty well. I was surprised though, Dave,
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  that you didn't use bills exacerbated outburst.
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  Somebody kill the dog. So once again, even in this good
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  e-mail, it's hey, you did it wrong.
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  Great stuff. I always look forward to WTF
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  regards so and so in Melbourne, FL.
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  So so that one made me happy ish.
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  Because once again, even though it's a happy e-mail, it is still
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  telling me that we did it wrong. We didn't do it the way, you
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  know, he thought we should do it.
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  But but he he at least got the joke.
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  And that was the the funniest part of the whole thing was Bill
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  listening to the show Sunday evening.
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  And it's not unusual for us to text each other during each
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  other's podcasts. And because I don't get up at
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  4:00 in the morning to listen to Bill and Bill doesn't stay up
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  late to listen to me, we tend to, you know, we're texting
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  later on. And so you can tell where
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  somebody is relative in the show and you can tell early on he's
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  texting me and Rod about the dog barking and we're texting me
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  back. We don't know what you're
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  talking about. It's which, of course, was the
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  whole joke. We were just pretending we
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  didn't. No.
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  So that was kind of funny. The second e-mail, of course,
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  was much less happy. Dave, I don't get your position
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  on the death penalty. You're wrong.
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  At least he's upfront about it. And the bottom line here is that
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  this person took me to task because he doesn't think it's
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  justice that this thing drags out.
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  And I started to reply. I started to reply with my
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  standard reply. Tell me you didn't actually
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  listen to what I said without telling me you didn't actually
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  listen to what I said. But I thought it's not going to
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  Now you're into an e-mail flame war.
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  Where's the, you know, where's that going to end up?
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  So basically I just left it there and, and here I am talking
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  about it instead because again, as I said on Friday, Thursday, I
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  don't remember what it was. I am not anti death penalty by
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  any stretch of the imagination. I do not oppose the death
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  penalty when it's appropriate. I think it should be carried
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  out. What I do concern myself with,
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  though, is the idea of the state taking life, liberty and human
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  life without absolute certainty. There are rare cases.
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  Ted Bundy. I was in Virginia Beach teaching
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  at Damn Neck when, when, when Ted Bundy was executed, the, the
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  local radio show was, was running a, a contest.
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  Call us up with the, during the execution, while it was
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  happening, call us up with the sound of something frying and
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  we'll give you a prize. And so around the office, we,
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  you know, because we didn't have anything to cook with.
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  So we were trying to figure out how to make frying noises and we
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  were going to call in and win a prize for the, for the office.
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  But there are rare occasions when I don't think anybody
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  objects to in any way, shape or form the death penalty.
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  And I don't object to it in the case of Krista Pike, Krista Pike
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  is an evil person who committed a heinous crime when she was an
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  adult legally. And then what nobody talks about
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  is while she was in prison, she committed further crimes,
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  including yet another attempted murder.
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  She earned the death penalty. The problem is that the way the
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  death penalty is carried out is clearly cruel and unusual
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  punishment. I, I, I oppose the use of lethal
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  injection. Lethal injection is not painless
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  and it is not, by any stretch of the imagination, not cruel.
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  Have you seen the autopsies of what this does to a human body?
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  The respect that I have for life, the respect that I have
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  for liberty and property? You own yourself, 'cause me to
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  be very concerned about that. There are other more humane ways
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  of carrying this out and it it causes me to step back and go,
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  is that really what we should be doing as a people now?
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  The emailer then goes on to say this is not justice.
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  What the problem is that this goes on for too long.
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  You know, 31 years in her case. How many years in Bundy's case?
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  Other people's cases. We had cases in California, 4050
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  years. Scott Peterson has been on death
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  row since what, 2008? So.
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  And there's no sign of him. I doubt seriously they'll ever
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  put him to death. How long should this be allowed
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  to go on? Well, the reality is government
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  will always find a way to do what it wants to do.
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  Government has no interest in saving taxpayer money.
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  The bottom line is the more of your tax money they get, the
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  better off they are. And so they will never do
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  anything that will actually save you money.
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  If if you passed a law in your state saying, and we did in
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  California saying we want the death penalty and we passed that
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  and you'll notice hadn't happened, even though it's
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  technically on the books hasn't happened.
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  Why? Because government doesn't work
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  that way. Back in 2011 ish, there came a
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  news report in California, and I'm using California's example
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  because I was on the air then that state legislators, state
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  legislators, senators, House members received a benefit as a
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  legislator. They got a car.
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  They got, you know, so much money.
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  They went out and bought the car that they wanted.
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  And the government would pay, the taxpayers would pay for that
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  car. They'd pay for the maintenance,
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  they'd pay for the gas. And you could make the argument
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  that, you know, the capitals in Sacramento and some of our
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  legislators are coming from San Diego, which is a good 6/7 hour
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  drive. Some are coming from up north in
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  Eureka and Yreka and even Weed, CA.
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  So, you know, it's a big state, so it makes sense, right?
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  It came, it became rapidly apparent that the legislators
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  who were in charge of passing the laws were bumping up the
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  amount that they get to buy these cars.
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  And they were not going out and buying Hyundais or, you know,
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  Priuses or whatever that that you would think in California
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  would be popular. No, they were buying huge SUVs,
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  fancy Mercedes, they were buying, they were over buying
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  cars. And this became a real issue.
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  And around 2011, it really exploded and people were calling
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  the show and people were whining.
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  They need to stop this benefit. They just need to pay their own
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  way, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  And I said on the air, then they're going to we, even if we
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  take this benefit away from them, you understand, they will
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  make more money that way because then they'll go out and they'll
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  get the IRS reimbursement rate, which is far more than what we
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  should be buying for them in a car.
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  What what we ought to do instead of saying you can't have a car,
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  what we ought to be saying is these are the five cars you can
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  choose from. And because this is California,
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  you know, put a Prius on there. Put, put a small gas efficient
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  car on there. You don't need, you don't need a
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  giant SUV. You don't need a fancy Mercedes
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  or a Jaguar or anything. What you need is and A and a a
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  relatively modern but reliable but not gasoline cars.
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  Well, of course, that's not what happened.
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  We as the voters of California took the benefit away from them.
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  We said no more cars for you. You will drive your own car.
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  You will pay your own maintenance.
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  You will and and of course, the visible benefit disappeared.
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  Legislators didn't have a car anymore.
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  We won the argument over cars as the people, but the argument
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  about the cars wasn't necessarily the same thing as
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  winning the money about winning the argument about the money.
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  Once Upon a time, Sir Humphrey Appleby said it's more expensive
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  to do things cheaply. And in fact, within a year, the
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  California Accountant County Office CEO was was admitting
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  that the reimbursements that they were now giving to the
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  legislators were more expensive than it was to just buy the
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  cars. And this is what I said.
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  They will make it be more expensive.
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  They will punish you for punishing them.
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  And the same idea applies across the board.
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  You know, you go to a store, hey, we're having a 50% off
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  sale. Nobody ever bothers to check the
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  price before they put everything on sale, right?
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  So they mark everything up 50%, then they give you a 50% off
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  sale and it's like who? I'm getting a deal, But are you
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  down in Brevard County? You've got this amendment three
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  thing standing in the way right now.
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  The basic idea is pretty straightforward.
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  Lower the taxable value, lower the property tax.
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  Yep, cap it all in there. But instead, they're already
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  raising the mileage rate so that if, even if Amendment 3 passes,
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  it's not going to be the cut that you think it is.
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  It'll still be a cut if everything stays the same, but
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  it's not going to be as big of a cut as you would have gotten if
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  they hadn't started raising rates now, which is what, you
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  know, Bill's referring to. And he talks about bust the cap.
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  They're they're raising those things so that they can
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  compensate for the fact that you might take money away from them.
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  This is what government does. They make things more expensive
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  so that they can get their way and they'll come back to you and
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  say, see, we told you it would be more expensive.
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  You didn't listen to us. We're the experts at wasting
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  people's money. You should trust us.
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  You should believe in us. This is called government by
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  cost. Engineering is what this has
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  caused. You can prohibit a policy or you
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  can leave it perfectly legal, but just change the economics
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  around it. Taxes, fees, licensing, permits,
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  insurance requirements, anything you want.
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  Now, this does not necessarily require malicious intent.
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  Each individual rule that they put into place or change that
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  they make could have a defensible justification.
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  But we start using the expenses we created as an argument
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  against the thing itself. Which brings us back to capital
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  punishment. The death penalty costs too
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  much. And this is my position because
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  it does cost too much. But why does it cost so much?
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  What exactly are we paying for? Longer trials, more lawyers.
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  And because the way our system works, we have to provide a
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  lawyer. The judge is going to allow
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  great latitude because you're you're taking a person's life
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  and liberty. You have to have due process.
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  This means you have to have more experts, more jury selection,
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  separate penalty proceedings. Well, you've been convicted.
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  Now we have to have another trial about whether or not it
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  deserves the death penalty. You have to have death row
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  incarceration requirements, appeals that we have by law set
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  how they these appeals are. And remember that the people
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  passing those laws are for the most part anti death penalty.
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  They don't want you to kill these people.
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  So they're dragging their feet, what civil servants refer to as
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  creative inertia. The government has to do all
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  these things, I think, because they're going to kill somebody.
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  You understand that. And when you're taking someone's
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  life, you need to make sure that you're right because there is no
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  remedy. You put somebody in jail for a
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  few years, you find out the prosecutor lied.
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  There's, there's, there's accountability and there's, you
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  know, a retribution for that. You kill somebody, you can't get
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  it back. I mean, what do you do?
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  You haven't figured out how to way to, to, to bring them back
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  yet. This is why the defense counsel
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  matters. It's why the forensic evidence
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  matters. It's why judicial review
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  matters. And wrongful convictions.
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  It would be disingenuous to say they haven't occurred because
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  they have. The argument cannot simply be
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  just get rid of the appeals process and executions would be
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  cheap. No, they wouldn't.
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  No they wouldn't, because government is going to do this
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  in a way that makes it more expensive because they don't
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  want to. They don't want you executing
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  people. So they're going to drag this
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  out, make it more expensive. This is why I advocate for the
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  idea that we should just do away with the death penalty.
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  I don't know that it's the argument goes, hey, Dave, if you
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  don't have a death penalty, you don't have a deterrent.
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  You know, when we're hanging people, people don't commit
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  murders. Really.
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  They don't because I'm pretty sure that murder rates don't
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  even with death penalty they don't get, they don't go down.
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  But it does raise legitimate questions.
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  How long should the process go on one appeal 5 appeals
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  10/20/30. And you know, keep in mind
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  you're talking to somebody who's in the middle of a 10 year
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  appeal on, on something. So there there's a, there's a
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  parable I think in the New Testament somewhere about the
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  old woman going to the judge. Remember this, give me justice,
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  give me justice. And he finally just says fine
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  here because it was getting annoying and expensive.
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  The problem, of course, is, you know, after all of this, what do
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  we got left with here? In the case of Christa Pike,
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  what we got is a mess because after all that litigation, after
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  all that expense that the taxpayer paid for, after 30
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  years, they mucked up the the the execution.
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  And now what? Now we've got another layer of
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  cost and litigation. Now we're going to go back to
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  courts about what drugs can be used, where can they be
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  obtained, What's if? If you manufacture these drugs
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  right now, are you looking at this going?
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  Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think we're going to
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  sell them to you anymore. There's the whole 8th Amendment
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  issue, what constitutes cruel and unusual punishment.
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  I I accept the fact that I think it does.
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  You may not, but those are debates that we can have in a
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  logical, reasonable manner. What we can't get away from is
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  the fact that government makes things more expensive.
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  They make it complicated, Lengthy, expensive and
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  controversial. Death penalty.
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  Complicated? You bet.
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  Lengthy. Yeah.
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  Expensive. Enormously.
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  Controversially, Obviously. Eventually you reach where I
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  have reached, which is the death penalty simply isn't worth what
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  it costs. It could be, if government
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  wasn't managing things the way it manages them.
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  But because it does, we're going to do that because who made it
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  cost this much? In a way we did.
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  We elected these officials who passed these laws and rules that
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  make this happen. And every time we tell them we
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  don't want it that way, like we did in California, we passed a
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  an initiative saying we want the death penalty.
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  And they said, great, you passed it.
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  OK, we've got the death penalty. But dot, dot, dot, and we made
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  it even more expensive than it was.
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  Just like those cars in California.
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  We took the cars away, but at the same time we started paying
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  more money for them to use their transportation to and from.
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  So what did we accomplish? We're not going to solve the
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  death penalty problem here at all.
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  We are not going to. I oppose the way it's being
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  done, not the actual penalty itself, the way it's being done
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  and it the way it's being done is being done that way because
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  that's how government wants it. They want it expensive, they
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  want it long, they want it to be this way.
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  And until we change the people that are passing the laws and
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  setting the rules, it will continue to be that way.
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  Dave has hot takes but not quite.
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  North Korean nuke under a mountain Hut.
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  This is plausibly live. Welcome back to Zai, Dave.
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  You want to join me? Text machine 209565 Dave
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  we're on Facebook, YouTube, Spotify, iTunes, and at least
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  for the moment, the iHeartRadio. That's how you get a hold of us.
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  Most dictators threaten their neighboring countries.
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  That's what they do. North Korea has decided
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  apparently that that was not ambitious enough.
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  So back in 2017, you probably remember this, the whole Rocket
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  Man thing and the whole issue with, with Kim Jong Un and, and,
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  and Donald Trump. Back in 2017, North Korea
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  detonated their largest nuclear device ever under a place called
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  Mount Mantap. And you say to yourself, OK,
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  they we set off nukes. They set off nukes.
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  Everybody sets off nukes or launches missiles or whatever
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  back in, I think it was somewhere around 2014.
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  I'm trying to remember when it was right around July.
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  Remember when, when, when the Norcs were threatening to launch
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  a missile, they had a missile that would reach the United
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  States. They were going to fire that
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  missile off. And so we did a test launch from
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  Vandenberg to the Pacific Missile Test Range.
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  And I remember this very well because the promotions manager,
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  the station was very worried about this, very concerned.
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  And she came to my office because I'm the politics guy and
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  you don't you don't go talk to to the radio, the music people
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  about this. So she was very concerned about
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  it. Should she be worried?
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  They said, so I took out the old Google Earth and I said, let me
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  show you something. So the Norcs say that they have
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  a missile that will reach America, right?
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  That that's what they said. But they haven't demonstrated,
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  they haven't shown you that it can happen.
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  Now watch what we did. We put out a press release, we
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  put out a news story. We are launching a missile from
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  Vandenberg to the Pacific Missile Test Range.
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  And we're going to, we don't normally announce these things,
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  but we announced it. So I pulled out the Google Earth
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  thing and I showed her on Google Earth.
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  I said, now watch this. And we drew a line on the globe
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  from Vandenberg to the Pacific Missile Test Range.
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  So did you see that line? She's like, yeah, now watch
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  this. And I took the line, and I
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  dragged it north. And she's like, oh, now I see
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  what we did. So yeah, we're sending a
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  message, which is you think you have one that can reach us, but
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  we got about 500 that can reach you.
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  So do you really want to play this game?
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  And of course, they never did. They never launched that missile
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  as far as I remember. Anyway, they shot this nuke off
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  underneath Mount Mantown. The explosion produced a 6.3
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  magnitude seismic event, which is not highly unusual when it
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  comes to setting off nukes underground.
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  But 6.3 does seem like quite a bit.
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  We had a 4.1 here the other day and you'd have thought all those
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  years in California, it's less than A7.
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  I don't want to hear about it. So we had a 4.1 probably 20
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  miles from here. I never felt it, never even
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  didn't even register. But you'd think based on the
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  news, it was a huge deal. The mountain mountain mantap
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  moved 12 feet sideways and nearly 2 feet down.
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  Moved the mountain over and down.
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  Think about what that takes to move a mountain 12 feet sideways
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  and two feet down. Scientists expected the
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  aftershocks to eventually settle down, but we've learned this
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  week they did not. Makes you wonder if your weapons
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  programs has achieved the updating of topographical maps.
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  Maybe you've overachieved, right?
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  Researchers have examined seismic data from 2008 to 2025.
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  They've identified 1400 seismic events. 955 of those came after
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  the 2017 explosion set off by North Korea.
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  Instead of gradually returning to normal, the explosion
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  apparently redistributed underground stresses and began
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  activating previously dormant fault lines.
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  And years later, the earthquake activity in North Korea is
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  increasing. They may have invented a nuclear
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  bomb with a geological snooze button.
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  This isn't really a story about North Korea doing something
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  reckless. That wouldn't be news.
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  That would be every day. The important discovery here
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  though, is that a sufficiently powerful human caused explosion
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  can apparently alter the stress field enough to reactivate
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  existing stress lines, which raises A fascinating question
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  about unintended consequences. We usually think of a nuclear
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  explosion as a singular event boom, but this particular thing
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  suggests that geologically speaking, it actually becomes
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  part of a process. Now, there is something almost
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  cartoonish about North North Korea doing this.
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  It's almost cartoonishly North Korean.
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  They wanted to demonstrate that they possessed a nuclear weapon,
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  and they succeeded. But apparently the mountain has
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  been demonstrating it ever since.
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  Which brings me to I went and saw the film Digger.
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  I don't know why I when I saw the previews a few weeks a few
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  months ago, I think when we were in Long Beach, I thought that
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  looks interesting. I like it when character actors,
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  Tom Cruise play something that is outside of their norm.
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  That's it it. There's just something about
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  that that I enjoy and there's something and so it kind of
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  attracted my attention. The cast is pretty good.
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  I like John Goodman. The whole thing is is a farce.
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  The whole thing is bad. It just I walked out of there
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  thinking I have no idea what they were trying to tell me.
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  What it came down to is much like North Korea setting off
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  nukes. They were trying to make a
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  morality play out of something without really understanding
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  what it is that they were trying to mock.
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  North Korea is trying to in a way, mock the Western world
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  saying, see, even we can do this.
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  And yet what they've managed to do is create a, a, a natural
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  geological disaster in in waiting.
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  And they're not going to have Digger come and and save them.
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  It's it's a little disconcerting.
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  I I saw the movie. I had a whole thing prepped to
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  talk about it. But what you need to know is,
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  much like Kim Jong Un, it's all fake.
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  All of it. It's completely fake.
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  And they don't even know what they're trying to fake.
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  That's the worst part of the whole thing.
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  So we'll see what happens. Government can make your
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  alternatives more expensive. They can make taxes more
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  complicated. And apparently, if they're
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  sufficiently motivated, they can start moving your mountains.
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  But in the meantime, they're not solving any of the problems.
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  They're just making them more and more expensive.
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  And someday we're going to have to pay for what North Korea has
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  done. You know it, I know it.
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  The government knows it. Take the time right now.
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  Tell the people that matter in your life, you love them very
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  much. You'd miss them if they weren't
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  there. So don't pass up those
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  opportunities. You don't want to have that
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  regret applause. We live.
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  I'm Dave Bowman. Probably not going to be here
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  tomorrow, but if the ferries don't work, I guess they will
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  be. See you later.
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  Everybody have a great