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Patriots Unfiltered 3/1: NFL Scouting Combine, Biggest Needs, Could Coaching Staff Changes Impact Mac Jones Development? · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Gillette
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  Speaker 1: Stadium and UH Combine starting up. So that's the big
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  Speaker 1: thing this week. Deuce is out there along with some
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  Speaker 1: it's Paul, it's Eric, it's me, it's Matt. Back from
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  Speaker 1: vacation Disney World. Yeah, yeah, we were reveling in that
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  Speaker 1: he's had a great time. Just I didn't get into
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars. It's a magic disappointment. He went there. He
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  Speaker 1: just didn't get on that one ride. You can go
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  Speaker 1: on the Millennium Falcon. On the Millennium Falcon, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: get on the ride of the Resistance. Wait in an
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  Speaker 1: hour and then they closed it down. Fall right, you
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  Speaker 1: got you got into the world. Okay, Galaxy's Edges? Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: could you beat anybody up? Waited for an hour and
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  Speaker 1: then they close it down? Do they know who you had?
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  Speaker 1: Some words we exchange. So he had a great time,
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  Speaker 1: magical place that Disney World. Okay. I know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people, A lot of people don't like it, but
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  Speaker 1: I do. Oh what's not to like? Doesn't like it?
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  Speaker 1: I want to doesn't like anything. I want to go
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  Speaker 1: to the Galaxy's Edge. Is that what you said? Matt. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll go see that. Okay, that's all I care about,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I don't have kids. The only thing I
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  Speaker 1: would say, and this is more from word of mouth,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be curious to hear what how Matt thinks A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people lately that have gone. I haven't gone
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  Speaker 1: probably in ten years. I haven't been there. Um. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people talking about it's really sort of regimented now,
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  Speaker 1: like everybody because of the dawn of apps and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the gain that it's all passes, it's all regimented and
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  Speaker 1: it kind of takes away some of the fun of them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like that either, what I've heard, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: been there. I don't like having to be at a
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  Speaker 1: place at a certain time. You know. Anyway, We're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna get into disor we're gonna we're gonna talk patriots.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, us into the show. We're talking.
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  Speaker 1: So the Yeah, the combine is UM. The first part
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  Speaker 1: of the combine is about to get under way. Some
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  Speaker 1: coaches and uh gms slash decision makers for teams will
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  Speaker 1: start their press conferences UM shortly in Indie and as
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  Speaker 1: as Fred alluded to, Mike do sou Is they're holding
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  Speaker 1: it down. Um, please don't yell at me. Um. On
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  Speaker 1: the on the nineteenth year, Paul took a break, Okay, no, Um,
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  Speaker 1: we just sort of decided to do it a little
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  Speaker 1: bit differently this year. And I will absolutely be monitoring
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  Speaker 1: everything I can from the combine from home, and Mike
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  Speaker 1: is there with a group of other We have a
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  Speaker 1: group of five. Yeah, we got social social stuff. We're
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  Speaker 1: well represented in Indie and we'll have as much of
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  Speaker 1: that information for you as we can. But a couple
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  Speaker 1: of guys today, Freddy, that I'm interested in we'll hear
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  Speaker 1: from the Bill's contingent. Always I was interested in the
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  Speaker 1: AFC East. So Sean McDermot and Brandon Bean are scheduled
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  Speaker 1: to to speak this afternoon. Brian Dable for the Giants,
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  Speaker 1: Nick Cassario for the Texans. Some Patriots ties there always
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  Speaker 1: like to hear what Kevin Colbert has to say. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: even though he is on his way out from the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers in Pittsburgh, he is one of the best. So
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  Speaker 1: and then the Buccaneers contingent of light and Arians. You
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  Speaker 1: never know what Arians will say. So, I mean, there's
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff we're gonna get into that. The
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  Speaker 1: rumors and gossip going from Tampa Bay and Brady, and
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy because if true, man, that would
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  Speaker 1: really disrupt the AFC East for the Patriots, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: And I might as well just say yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's rumors that, uh, Brady and Derek Jeter want to
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  Speaker 1: become minority owners of the Buccaneers and by the Buccaneers
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  Speaker 1: of the and that Brady would play there and obviously
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  Speaker 1: a lot has to do with the status of Ross
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  Speaker 1: and Floras, and you know, people are just speculating that
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  Speaker 1: if if the whole you know, one hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: per game to Tank is true and there's actual evidence
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  Speaker 1: that that could be a reason where the other owners
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  Speaker 1: forced him to sell his stake in the team. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if even then the owners could force
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  Speaker 1: him to do that, because I would imagine be lawsuits
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  Speaker 1: forever blocking that. But but it is interesting that and
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  Speaker 1: I think there's probably a little fire with that smoke
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  Speaker 1: about Brady and Jeter being interested in becoming part owners
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  Speaker 1: of a team. Do you think Brady would play and
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  Speaker 1: be an owner that's what they you know, it would
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  Speaker 1: be awesome. Yeah, I think fans would their heads would explode.
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  Speaker 1: You have to play him twice? Oh, I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily mean it for that. I just met
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  Speaker 1: just the prospect of him Dolphins fans. I'm having a
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  Speaker 1: partial ownership in the Dolphins, Oh yeah, and playing at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, like heaven can wait. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, I don't think there's ever been a
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  Speaker 1: point where a player in the NFL had part ownership
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  Speaker 1: of a team. Didn't didn't your guy Elway at one
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  Speaker 1: point have an offer two I believe they an owner
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  Speaker 1: or alive. They got sanctions for that. No, but that
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  Speaker 1: was for Stocks, yeah, I think, And I think they
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  Speaker 1: got in trouble for that because it was deemed a
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  Speaker 1: salary cap violation. Yeah yeah, yeah, But it wasn't Stocks
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  Speaker 1: in the team. It was wasn't it the team. I
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  Speaker 1: thought he would have a partial ownership, but that is
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  Speaker 1: normally the case on Patriots unfiltered, we have enough information
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  Speaker 1: to get to be dangerous. But but but not the
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  Speaker 1: real not the real. But I don't know. If I
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  Speaker 1: don't like in baseball, they're probably There's been player managers
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  Speaker 1: and own part owners right back in the day, like
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  Speaker 1: an old time. I don't think anything in modern times. No,
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  Speaker 1: not in modern times. Mario Lemie would be the one
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  Speaker 1: guy right he was playing, he saved the Penguins from
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  Speaker 1: bankruptcy and became a part owner. Yeah, but I don't.
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  Speaker 1: In the NFL, it's just the money is just too high,
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  Speaker 1: like even for Brady and Jeter, Like they can't afford
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  Speaker 1: to outright own a team. No, they'd be partial, right,
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  Speaker 1: they'd be partial. Dolphins already have like a bunch of money,
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  Speaker 1: do they do? You know? But don't don't. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: in all seriousness, don't most teams, if not all, have
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  Speaker 1: like a codra of minority owners. Patriots don't. They don't
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  Speaker 1: have any, Nope, not that I know of. I think
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  Speaker 1: we would. I think they did, No, now, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think so. I think it's completely the Craft family.
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  Speaker 1: You would know more about that, Yeah, I have never
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  Speaker 1: heard of any. Yeah would don't you think we would
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  Speaker 1: have heard about such people? But at this point like
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  Speaker 1: that they would have come out because in general they're
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  Speaker 1: not famous people. It's not like Jay. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: like j Low is a minority. Yeah, No, it's some
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  Speaker 1: like as far as I know, I'm saying, like it's
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  Speaker 1: some bank guy that you never heard of he owns Like,
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  Speaker 1: but like, that's what I always thought. But don't you
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  Speaker 1: think that would have been don't you think that would
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  Speaker 1: have been in this day and age with you know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody thinking that they're a celebrity on social media, Like
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  Speaker 1: that would have come out and somebody would have done
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  Speaker 1: a story on, Hey, look who the Patriots minority I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't think, but I think that's that'd be
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  Speaker 1: a good problem, Like who are the minority owners in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL? Like you don't know about him except for
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  Speaker 1: Miami because they've been well publicized and all the people
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  Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Yeah, well that's nobody owns it. That's
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  Speaker 1: nobody's Alice, by the way, that that needs to be
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  Speaker 1: done away with that, that whole grandfather that's nonsense. You
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  Speaker 1: want somebody to buy the Packers? I do enough enough?
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  Speaker 1: Um so it has written so yeah, But so like
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  Speaker 1: who are the minority owners for the various teams in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL? You know as here Francis W. Murray is
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  Speaker 1: the minority owner of the Patriots. Oh that's the former.
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  Speaker 1: Um now he's the former Murray. He wanted, right, wasn't
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  Speaker 1: wasn't he a banker? I don't think so. He might
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  Speaker 1: be a banker, but not for Bank of a Marria.
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  Speaker 1: Well okay, but he was a bank executive. I sorry, what,
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  Speaker 1: oh that was years ago? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna say, Murray looking at something from twenty and fifteen
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  Speaker 1: that says minority owners none, yeah, yeah for this team. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: fran Murray was he wanted to buy the Patriots at
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  Speaker 1: one time. He was he was a competitor to Robert
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  Speaker 1: Kraft to to be to buy the team back then.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's you know, but yeah, I'm I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: there are no minority owners for the Patriots. But that's
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  Speaker 1: not the case with every team. A lot of Tommies
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  Speaker 1: that have a lot of teams that have h you know,
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  Speaker 1: the owner that you see who's the face is usually
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  Speaker 1: like a fifty one percent exactly. Well, there's a league
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  Speaker 1: rule that there has to be one person who is
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's the one that gets to make the decision.
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  Speaker 1: He represents the team, right, you know. By speaking of that,
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  Speaker 1: I watched The House of Gucci, that movie, Yeah, how
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  Speaker 1: was it? Very good? And those people who say that
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  Speaker 1: Lady Gaga was snubbed by oscars. Are right. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know it was her until after the movie. She
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  Speaker 1: does a fabulous You didn't know that. You didn't see
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  Speaker 1: any like previews, trailers or anything. No, really, Yeah she
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  Speaker 1: was great and I didn't even know. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know it was her until afterwards. Oh
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  Speaker 1: yeah she's good. She was good. And um star is
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  Speaker 1: born too. I liked her in that. Yeah, so good movie.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say great, but you know, okay, and you
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  Speaker 1: know the fact that it's all based on fact, right
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  Speaker 1: makes it even more interesting. Yeah, anyway, back to uh,
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  Speaker 1: minority owners m Yeah, so I just think it would
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  Speaker 1: be interesting to see who which teams have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of minority I think the Dolphins have quite a few. Yeah, yea,
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  Speaker 1: because I think that was one of Ross's things when
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  Speaker 1: he got the team was remember he institute of the
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  Speaker 1: whole orange carpet thing. Used to see what like the
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  Speaker 1: whole celebrity like, oh, it's an event, let's show up
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  Speaker 1: and get our picture taken. Right. Yeah that Michael Anthony,
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  Speaker 1: that guy he's Mark But yeah, Michael, that's how Jayla
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  Speaker 1: lost her ownership stock when she did. Yeah. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the the NFL is an interesting so Brady and Jeter.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if they would they be the majority, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they could, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, the league has to you know, all
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  Speaker 1: the owners have to approve any new owner and they
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  Speaker 1: have to go through like these financial tests and everything
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  Speaker 1: like that. I just don't see the two, even the
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  Speaker 1: two of them having enough money. You have to have
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  Speaker 1: for money, do you think at least a billion? Right, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean to spend well, the you know, the value
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  Speaker 1: of the Miami Dolphins is probably like three billion, now
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  Speaker 1: three four billion, because they own their own stadium, right. Um, well,
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  Speaker 1: look up the Forbes from last year. I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: have the ranking of the top uh uh sports franchises
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  Speaker 1: in the world, and I don't think the Dolphins were
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  Speaker 1: in the top two, you know, the Patriots and like
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I think very few owners or when
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  Speaker 1: people buy a team, they put it, they buy, they
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  Speaker 1: spend cash. You know, it gets financed sum. But I
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  Speaker 1: think you have to have a certain amount liquid sure,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Um, like David Tepper was one of the
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  Speaker 1: more recent buyers. He bought the pan Panthers and he
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  Speaker 1: I think he had the cash, you know. He I
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  Speaker 1: just looked up Brady's net worth and Giselle's network and
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  Speaker 1: it said Brady's was four fifty and Giselle's was four hundred.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know if Brady's is sort of including Gizelle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but even if they're worth together is a billion dollars,
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  Speaker 1: that's not cash, No, but they're worth neither is I
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  Speaker 1: mean like Roberts the family, they don't have that right
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  Speaker 1: build those billions in cash. And I do know that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, at that time when the Crafts bought the team,
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  Speaker 1: now back then they only paid one hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 1: million dollars only, you know, and that was the most
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  Speaker 1: ever paid for a team at the time. As a
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  Speaker 1: point of comparison, I just did the same thing for
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  Speaker 1: Robert Kraft net worth eight point three billion, right, right,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, talking about a different level. Right. So, so
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  Speaker 1: even at the time, even at only quote one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and seventy million dollars, the Crafts had to have Bank
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  Speaker 1: of America pretty much finance this thing. And it was
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  Speaker 1: based on the clubs. So they got the financing because
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  Speaker 1: they had they were had ten year contracts for those
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  Speaker 1: club seats and that was basically the collateral, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: for Bank of America financing the purchase. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: had those ten year contracts in place, and that was
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  Speaker 1: you know, Bank of America said, okay, this is a
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  Speaker 1: sound investment for us. They were expecting people to buy
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  Speaker 1: those club seats yeah, and finance. Yeah. And you know
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  Speaker 1: since then, the Crafts have paid back bank of America there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but but you know, even at one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and seventy million at that time, they needed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Bank of America to step up. And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these rich people they're smart. They don't spend their own money.
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  Speaker 1: They rarely spend their own money when you when you
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  Speaker 1: see them, Oh they bought you know, this thing for
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  Speaker 1: fifty million, this house for it's all they mortgage. It's
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  Speaker 1: just like us. And but they're getting like such favorable
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  Speaker 1: rates because of their credit, Like it's like free money
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  Speaker 1: for them. You know, they have to pay it back,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, they don't spend their own way. And
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  Speaker 1: that's how you find out about some of these things
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  Speaker 1: with like the scandals like that show now with the
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  Speaker 1: German Room. Anna, Yeah, it was inventing Anna, Like that's
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  Speaker 1: how it happens is you automatically assume, oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: some errors, so you know, some fit whatever, and every
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: once in a while this is a scandal and a
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  Speaker 1: scam and the banks get beat. Yeah. Yeah, So it's
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  Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see what happens with that whole
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  Speaker 1: Dolphin situation in the Flora suit and everything attached to that.
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  Speaker 1: Um So, I don't know, I I Well, I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: like I root for Tom Brady and everything he does,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want this to happen. Well. The more interesting
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  Speaker 1: I think element of that the Brady story in Miami
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  Speaker 1: is that the thing that Floria reported earlier in the
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  Speaker 1: week about tying Sean Payton and Brady to the Dolphins. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then this whole Brian Florish thing is sort of
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  Speaker 1: throwing a whole monkey wrench into that, right. Well, that
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  Speaker 1: was the whole thing they wanted to They asked New
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  Speaker 1: Orleans for permission to talk to Peyton, and that was
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  Speaker 1: one of the things in the floor is that Ross
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  Speaker 1: wanted Flores to Tampa with Brady while Brady was in Miami,
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  Speaker 1: and Flores said no. But then the you know, the
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  Speaker 1: Florist suit kind of blew up everything. But like I said,
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  Speaker 1: if if you know, if they can find the smoking
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  Speaker 1: gun and the owners have the backbone to force Ross out,
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  Speaker 1: it opens it up for other people to swoop in,
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  Speaker 1: just by comparison's sake. I looked up the last year's
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  Speaker 1: Forbes Top fifty sports franchises in the world. Dolphins were
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  Speaker 1: number thirty five at two point nine billion. Okay. In
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  Speaker 1: last year's list, New England was in the top ten.
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  Speaker 1: They were um eighth in the world at four point
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  Speaker 1: four billion. Yep, so that includes the stadium obviously, yeah. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: And and Matt just texted me an update that the
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  Speaker 1: Dolphins are now projected to be worth about three point
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  Speaker 1: four girls, so a little bit more than last year,
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  Speaker 1: which because they upgraded the stadium probably. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how accurate those Forbes things are. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, the team so to speak. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers just went for what three billion or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I just can't imagine that they're, you know,
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  Speaker 1: listed at being worth four billion, but they're really only
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  Speaker 1: worth one. Yeah, like it's got to be close. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I think what's a what's a couple of mill here?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think, what help what helps these valuations
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  Speaker 1: for the NFL is it's it's the money is guaranteed
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, those TV revenue contracts. I mean
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  Speaker 1: they're done for ten years, so it's guaranteed revenue for
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  Speaker 1: at least ten years. And they're, like Paul said, they're
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  Speaker 1: not going anywhere. They're they're not going down. And then
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  Speaker 1: you know, getting to the you know, this is more
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  Speaker 1: like sort of things that are kind of topical in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL the last week or so, like the TV
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: contracts you're talking about, Freddie. Look at some of the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: dollars being dangled in front of these announcers, color analysts, Right,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Like Troy Aikman is going to ESPN, He's gonna go
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: to Monday Night Football for astronomical let's say, like eighteen
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: millions something. Do you think it's worth it? No? God no,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Why do they do that then? Because they're going to
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: make money? No, I know, but they know it. But
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: you're going to make money regardless to make it. Stump like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: why do you agree? Yeah? I don't think they're gonna
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: make any more money right with Troy Aikman calling games
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: than they would with Bryan Greasy and Lewis Riddick, Right, like,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: somebody did a poll. I think it was your guy,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Chad Finn did a poll the other day. Have you
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: ever watched a sports you know? Because of the I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and the eight percent were represented by Megan O'Brien anders
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: voting like right, Like I like certain announcers, but like
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not watch because oh John Madden isn't doing it.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not watching, right, you know. Yeah, so I think
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the value of these guys is overrated. I really do
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: think the play by play guy is much more important
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: than the color guy. Don't you know the flow of
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the game. I don't. I don't really care about either one.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: But I would rather like if you're a guy who's
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: telling me something I don't know, then a guy who's
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: telling me it's first and ten. Yeah, well, I don't know.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Remember when back in the day the Jets experimented with
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the game where there were no announcers. It was it
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: was an n Yeah, it wasn't like the Jets experimented.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: It was the Jets Dolphins. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, NBC
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: um nineteen eighty. I believe they only did it once though,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you know, like for whatever reason, they didn't do it again. Yeah,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I mean there is value in having somebody, you know,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: because you're just jumping in. It's the the second quarter,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: you don't know what the hell's going I think you
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: need announcers. Yeah, I'm not necessarily because of every play,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: but like when something happens, when there's a replay, when
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: there's something going on in the field, you know, and
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: they're telling you devil watch a game at a bar
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, what happened on this play? Was
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: he in bound? Like sometimes you need the volume just
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to find out if he was in bounce? Yeah, you know, like, hey,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: what happened on that? Oh there was a penalty on that?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Like you didn't see the explanation, you know. I don't know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: but I think announcers are important, but not eighteen million.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine, like back to the announcing thing with
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the money that they're throwing around, could you imagine that.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know how serious it was, but I think
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: it was legit that Sean McVay, a thirty six year
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: old head coach of the Super Bowl champion, was literally
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: legitimately contemplating leaving coaching to be going into the booth.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Now he has since said no, he's not doing that
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if he ever fiance his wife
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: or fiance. Don't know. I don't know if he ever
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: seriously was contemplating it or not. But that's the kind
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: of money. Like he's at the top of his profession,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: which I assume was something that he has always dreamed about.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: He's thirty six years old, so it's not like he's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: like done and he was literally contemplating leaving to go
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: be go in the booth. I mean, he could coach
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: ten more years and still have a long career as
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: as an analyst, if that's something he wants to do.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: But that's the kind of money they're throwing around. Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's I think it's a
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: good life. You know, you get to cover different teams.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's as krusha gig as you can get. Well,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I think they work hard. I think they do a
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: lot of prep, you know, sure, but I mean good ones,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: not heavy lifting. Yeah, no, you know. I think they
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: do a lot of prep. But I don't think it's hard. Anyway,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: we got on the wrong line. Well we'll get Beasley
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Reese and Ian Cross or who IRV Cross? I an
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: eagle IRV Cross and Beasley rees he gets the Beasley
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Reese right. Beasley Reese is is a local joke that
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: maybe some of our listeners don't get. But when when
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Fred and I were, you know, youngsters watching the Patriots
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: every week, getting the D list announces we got stuck
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: with Beasley Reese, like nineteen eighty two, it's the Patriots
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Jets here in foxborow Beasley Reese right. Yeah, it was
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: was always the color commentator, and you know, we just
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you knew you had the worst crew of the week
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: this year was James Lofton. We had him like a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: half dozen times. I think, yeah, see, I think that
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: when you listen back to your point, like, would you
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: ever watching watch or not watch because of that? I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: think you're just so used to the Patriots always being
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: in the spotlight. So it was always Jim Nance and
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Phil Simms and now to Ye and when you were
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: on Fox, it's always Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. But
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I think if you got games on a more consistent basis,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: with the lesser cruise, you become more accustomed to how
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: they look at the game and how they call the game.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Trent Green and Dan Fouts, Yeah, those guys you know
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: they is good. No, probably not, otherwise they would probably
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: move up. But I don't think it's something that you
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: would look and say, oh, I can't watch this game.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And believe me, I nitpick at all the mistakes they
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: make all the time, just like everybody else does. Well,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I do. I do think there are there are announces
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you enjoy listening to more than others. Yeah, you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: guys who aren't as polished as analysts as others. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I mean I know some people try even the trick
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: of turning down the TV volume and turning on the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: radio because they like hearing. Yeah, our local guys call
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: it more. But I mean most most people don't go
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that far. But well it's hard now with the delay
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it up. I used to do that back in the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: day with Celtics. I turn up Johnny most listen to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: him and watch the game on TV. I honestly never
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: did that once something now if I know every everybody
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: who says they did, I did it. Yeah, I never
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: did it. I tried doing it at the Super Bowl
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: when we were sitting there in the press box, but
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the delay was too long. It was like almost a
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: full two plays before the thing would catch up. It's like,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: at that point it's worthless. I loved listen at Johnny Moss.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: He was he was the worst and the best at
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the same Yeah, Like he wasn't that good, but he
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: was just such a character. Yeah. Um. The other thing
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that was announced the other day International Games for this year.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: It's official that Tampa Bay will host the game in Munich. Uh.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: And then there's gonna be two games in London, three
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: three games in London in a game in Mexico. Um.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Arizona has the Mexico game. Yeah, they're the home team
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: for that. Packers Saints will play at Tottenham Hotspur and
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Jacks will play at Wembley. Yep. So um, likely the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Patriots will not be involved in any of those um.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people were surprised at the Patriot's
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: weren't the team in Germany? Um. And it comes down to,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots only have eight home games this year.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Next year they'll have nine home games, and most likely
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: next year the Patriots will be in line to play
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a game in Germany, assuming they give up a home game. Um.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: And you know, now, if the Patriots were on Tampa
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Bay schedule this year, then that would have been up
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and you know, it could have been a possibility that
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the Patriots play the Bucks in Germany, but we're not
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: on the Buccaneers schedule, so that's out of the question.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: So there's a chance you would think that, I mean,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: logic would tell you that if the Patriots have been
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: assigned as one of the four teams in the German market,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: that they wouldn't be putting the Patriots to play in
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: London and Mexico, where they've already played in the past. Yeah,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: they'd be you know, and they've already they have four teams, right,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it's Panthers, Chiefs, Patriots, Bucks or the four German right
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: home market teams, and they've come to an agreement with
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the next four years having games in Germany, two in
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Munich too, in Frankfort, correct, Right, So you have to
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: assume that over that four year span all four of
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: those teams are going to host one of those games. Probably, Yeah,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: let's hope the Patriots get unit because Frankfort's quite not
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: is attractive an option. But um yeah, so this year
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: probably know, Kansas City, Are they on Tampa Bay's schedule?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but because that would be a likely matchup.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: If so they played last year, Um, yeah, I don't
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: think that. I don't know if that, I don't know
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: if they are that might not eliminate. Um, yeah, but
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: they did play, No, they didn't play last year? What
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: am I? What am I thinking? I was thinking of
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: two years? Anyway about Kansas City schedule? Hold on play
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: him in the Super Bowl last year. So even though
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the Patriots aren't playing in Germany this year, you're going
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to be hearing some Patriots slash German news come up.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: So working on working on some stuff, yep. So for
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: you German fans, um, it's gonna be good. And you know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of our other countries where we're popular,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: like Mexico and Kay the Bucks. Yeah yeah, so that
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: could be Kansas City does play the Bucks. That's well,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that would be uh, I mean twenty twenty two opponents. Yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: so that's who German markets. It's likely, Yeah, that's likely. Um,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: But you know for the other countries that you know
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: express concern, why well, how come the Patriots aren't hmmas
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: aren't home teams in our country. It's like UK and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Mexico and um, Germany. Now, but that doesn't mean down
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the road that the Patriots won't submit, um, you know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: a proposal for the other countries too to the league.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: So just a logistical question about this, since you're somewhat
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: involved in all this stuff, Fred, is the goal to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: have every team be associated with an international market? I
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: don't think specifically, no. I think the goal for the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: league is just to have to expand the international market.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: And they came up with this plan to basically have
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the teams do the work of the league. You know.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I think they realize that, you know, teams have been
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: doing their own stuff in these countries anyway, you know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: so let's kind of open it up and create some competition,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: but also have the teams commit to being there. You know.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: So in order to have Germany, for example, the Patriots
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: have to commit to a five year plan. Now, as
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, we're there forever. You know, We're
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: not going to like go for five years and then leave.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: But you know, they don't want teams going in one
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: year doing stuff and then leaving, and you know, they
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: want commitment from the teams. So yeah, I mean the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: goal is just to grow the game. Yeah, So I'm
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: so I'm just thinking, like It wouldn't logically makes sense
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to have every team be a soociated with at least
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: one country. That way, you can really expand your international
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, but there's only so many countries
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I think that are viable honestly, Right, but you already have,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: like Germany has four teams right now, I know some
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: teams some countries only have one team, right, wouldn't it
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: make sense to like associate it two of the teams
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: with at least one Yeah, that was just the opening foray.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I think they're they're taking submissions right now from teams
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: going forward, you know, so they'll at any time a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: team can say, hey, you know, we just hired this
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Brazilian kicker. Can can we can we get Brazil? You know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: can we go into Brazil? You know, there's a good
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: reason you can come into any you know, but you
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: just have to commit. Yeah, you know. Yeah, so that's
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: their international. Uh news Do do do? Do? Do? Do? All? Right?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Five five five hundred is the a Sticket hut Line
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: web radio at pagris dot com. Hopefully Douce will be
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: calling in from Indianapolis at some point give us the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: lowdown on what's going on with the combine lots of
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: emails coming in at web radio at Patriots dot com.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I guess we can get to those. Um No, no
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: news on the JC Jackson front. Noe. We're a week
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: in now, and yeah, not surprising given the history that
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the Patriots have with the tag and waiting till the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: last minute. Um. Yeah, nothing's really changed since last week
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: when we talked about Jackson making his comments to Phil
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Perry about not being happy that you know, he hasn't
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: had any discussions with the team. But again that's the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: way they usually do business anyway. They kind of wait
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: until they have to deadline, spurring action as you like
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to say. Yep, I would say that Eric is mostly right, Um,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: that nothing has changed. But I, you know, in the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: in the subtle read between the lines, you know, sort
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of media thing that I like to do, as you know,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I like to sort of trying to read the team,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: my interpretations based on some of the things I do think.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: There was a a thing on Sunday Mike Reese's you know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: ten ten notes that he likes to post every Sunday.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: He sort of indicated that it would be lower odds
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: for J. C. Jackson to be tagged yep. I don't
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: think Mike is in the business of just sort of
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: right he gets something uneducatedly throwing stuff around, right. Uh,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Mike is as good and as thorough as anybody in
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the business. Uh, certainly coaching the Patriots, I mean covering
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. So I would say based on that and
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a couple other guys kind of following suit, I would
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: say that that that maybe the tea leaves are reading
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: no with a potential tag. Um. I wrote my notes today, um,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and we posted them this morning. And I think it's
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a hard decision. We've been talking about her for weeks.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't tag him. I would I would
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: let him walk. If you could get him at some
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: kind of a some kind of an extension that you
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: know works for you, then that would be different. But
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the one year thing, I think they have more needs
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: than that would probably handle. So I just texted Mike.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: By the way, he's going to try to call in
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: in the next ten minutes or so. Yeah, but I
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: think at this point it might be and again it's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: not an easy one, but it might be wise for
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: them to just sort of let it go. I know
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: some people are upset about that. Then they're already letting
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: me have it on Twitter, which is okay, that's that's
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: what that's for. I'm glad people are reading, and I'm
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: glad they're interacting. I don't feel overly strongly about it. Well.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: The other thing though, I think, and I think I
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: think Mike may have mentioned this in one of the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: paragraphs in his notes, was that something we talked about
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: last week, which was would you want to tag Jackson
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: if you had a potential trade partner? Do a tag
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and trade kind of thing so you get something in return.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: And I think Mike threw that in there as a
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you know, this being Combine week, all the agents, all
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the decision makers are in Indianapolis. This tends to be
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: sort of a precursor to the legal tampering period in
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the three days before the start of the new league year,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: where potentially you're talking with other gms, other coaches and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: maybe you work out like a handshake agreement deal for J. C. Jackson,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: then you at the last minute throw the tag, get
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: him to sign and deal him. Now, it hasn't happened
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: a ton of times with the Patriots, maybe twice that
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I can think of, twice, yeah, Tebucky Tebucky Jones and
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Castle right and Matt Castle. But it's still a possibility
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: that's out there absolutely. You know. Well, I think that
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: if you're if the Patriots are willing to like take
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: a third round pick, I think it's it's a low
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: risk move if if you're you know, if you want
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that extra draft pick. But if you if you're gonna
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: like be dead set on getting a first round pick,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: too risky because I don't think you're gonna get that. Well,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: to Eric's point, you find that out now, Yeah. Yeah,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: you find out what you're gonna be able to get now,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: and then you decide by the eighth whether or not
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: that's enough for you. Yeah, So you don't tag him
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: risking I'm going to be able to get X. Yeah,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: you tag them knowing what you're going to be able
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: to get because of what goes on this week in Indie. Yeah. Now,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: given the way this team has done business in the past,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you assume that, like as Mike was speculating in
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: his notes, Mike Rerease that if they really wanted to
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: keep a player, any player doesn't have to be Jackson,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: but any year, any player who was a potential franchise
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: tag candidate. If they really wanted to keep him, there
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: would have been some sort of outreach by this point.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: It might not have been in depth contract negotiations, but
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: there might have been some sort of like, hey, we
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: know what's down the road, we want to talk, we're open,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. I think so that
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: if they did tag him, it would almost be like
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: a formality, like you know, we're yeah, we're working things out.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Halfway through. Yeah, we just want to make sure that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you stick around. But even more so, you did an
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: extension last year. I mean, that's when you really do
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: it well. Sure, but there have been case is where
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: it gets to this point and they know they want
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to keep the player, but you know, they only tag
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: him just because they know that they're working something out.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: It seems like this might be a case where they
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: really don't want to keep him. And again, we're just
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: kind of trying to read between the Yeah, there's there's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of but there's a lot of behind the scenes.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: But like you know, maybe like they've told talked to
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: his age and said, you know, see what's out there,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: you know, and come back to us. So I do
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: like the fact that I told you that I've gotten
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: some some interaction already because it posted this morning. I
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: like the fact that some people are passionate about it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: You know, just pay the man. It shouldn't be all
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: that hard, you know, pay him. And I like that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: What I'm interested in is that kind of opinion. I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: want to know now what you think. Yeah, I don't
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: want to know after the fact. I don't want to
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: know the day after he signs a five year, ninety
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: five million dollar contract with the San Francisco forty nine
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: ers that you think it was dumb contract, right right? Yeah,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: let the dumb teams pay. I want to know what
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: you think now. And that's why I like the people
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that have already you know, weighed in, no, he's not
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: worth it, right yeah, because the Patriots could sign them tomorrow.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: But even if they say pay the man, pay them, what, like,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: what are you willing to pay them? You know, right?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Because I've heard like, oh, that's what I could. That's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: why I've been telling you he's going to be in
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: the top five cornerbacks when when, when this is said
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and done, So if you're not prepared to go there,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: then let it go. Just let them go, and it's like,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: and that's okay, Just like your discussion about the broadcasters.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what the markets paying them nowadays. Right,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: they're probably not they're not worth it, but that's what
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the markets paying. Yeah, Romo blew it out of the water. Yeah, yeah,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: all right. Five five hundred is the ACE ticket outline
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com. Bill and DC writes
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: about J. C. Jackson, right or wrong, the Patriots have
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: this reputation for not handing out big dollar contracts. Do
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: you think this is solely Bill's approach or is it
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: coming down from Robertcraft and Bill? And Bill is taking
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a bullet for the ownership when it comes to the Patriots.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Who has the ultimate say on negotiating big ticket contracts?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: After all, it is Crafts money, and I would imagine
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Bill doesn't have a free reign without Roberts. Okay, have
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: we been blaming the wrong guy when players walk because
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: the Patriots won't pay them? Um? I think it's a
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: you know when it I think everything about that is
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: perfect except for I don't know who gets blamed. Yeah,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Like I think the way that's written, I think it
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: seems like he thinks everybody blames Bill, and I don't
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: know that everybody blames Bill. I think when it comes
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: to big ticket contracts, you know, Robertcraft does have to
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: have absolutely you're not signing a guy to a one
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: hundred million dollars contract without the owner's consent, right, any
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: in any NFL local Right, Oh we can, we can
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: let him wait. Oh okay, but but but that's yeah,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I mean I totally agree with that email. I do
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: think that's their philosophy, for better or worse. I think
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the Patriots really tried to be fiscally conservative. Yeah, would
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: you not. Yeah, But at the same time, don't miss write,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: you know, don't rewrite history. They allowed Malcolm Butler to
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: go in this similar kind of situation and signed Stefan
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Gilmour to one of the largest free agent cornerback contracts
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: in history. Yep, just like last year they signed two
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: tight ends for the largest free agent tight end contracts
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: in history. So it's not cheap, right, It's sometimes you
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: don't know their methodology calculated, right, You don't know sometimes
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: what they think. Yeah. Yeah, And the question that I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: might have is who has more say on something like that?
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Where like you lose a Super Bowl hero in Malcolm
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Butler or you allow him to go. Does the owner
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: then go to the coach and say, hey, look, we
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: just took a huge pr hit here. We need something big.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I want to spend money, get me the best cornerback.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Is that how the conversation work. Or does Bill go
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to the owner and say, hey, I believe in this guy,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I really want him. We gotta pay him what we like. Yeah,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: who is the one that instigates? I think it's both ways.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's both ways. But and I think but
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I think Bill has a certain um idea of what
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: value is for a player. Yeah, I think Bill definitely
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: And unless you're unless you're like really elite. Yeah, he
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't like play paying the big bucks. Now, he will
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: overpay for those team guys like the yah you know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: like the special teams guys like Special Team for the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: safety that Andy loved. Yeah, James Sanders generally doesn't want
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to set the market at a position, but he will
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: give two more million to a guy in the middle, Yeah,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: than anybody else would even think of a good example. Yeah,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Kendrick Morn was like blown away by the contract that
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: he was given, and he came out and said, like Hey,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I saw him in New England because like, yeah, they
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: threw all this money out. I think Bill is really
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: aware that everybody in the locker room is watching everybody else.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: They know what everybody else is may king, and I
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: think he's very aware of that, and he, you know,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: plays that game where I can't pay this guy because
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it'll affect my locker room. I want to reward this
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: guy because it'll show other guys that if you do
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a B and C, you'll you know, you'll be rewarded.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of that going on, not
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: just here, but in a lot of locker rooms night.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: So let's hear it from Deduce. Yeah, what's up, Mike, Mike,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Paul is ready for you now, good start. Are you
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: on the h Oh? There he is, Freddie fat fingers, Mike,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you're at a combine. What's going on now? Oh? Just
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: how we just got here? Um and yeah, I got
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: a sandwich. So we're we're getting ready to get set
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: up as some of the Bills guys are going to
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: be speaking at one o'clock, so we headed down and
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: listening to them. But yeah, otherwise n't really dived in
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: head first yet. But uh, yeah, Paul, we miss it.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: We miss it for sure. No, I know. I'm sure
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: the rest of Indy does as well. But has it
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: started yet? Have anybody? Has anybody gone? Because I'm watching
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: NFL network and they haven't shown anybody at a podium crickets.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Uh not that I know. We just we he gotten
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: in here. We got our credentials. Um, I know, look
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: like I said, I think really, I think a lot
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: of guys are supposed to start going at the top
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: of the hour. So, uh so we filled up on
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: some food. Kind of actually kind of funny. Josh mckneos
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: and Days Eagler, We're both on our flight out of Boston,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: So I guess they have not relocated to Vegas yet.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: So did you say hello? No, I didn't know. Into
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the back Yeah, well you got you got start struck.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I read I was reading that where the Jets have
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: decided to have very light attendance. Have you heard about
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: that where Sala's not going to be there and other
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Jets aren't going to be Really No, uh no, I haven't,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: but I will. I will make sure to keep my
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: eyes my peepers peeled as hard, he would say, for
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: any Jets people. But Uh, but no, it's going to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: be back. I mean, it's it's hard to believe it's
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: been two years since we were last year, and uh yeah,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: it's uh, everybody's kind of descending upon upon Indie right now.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Everybody's just rolling in. Okay, all right, you're ready for
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: How have you seen the Cowboys bus? Yeah? Yeah, I'm
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: chanting on the window looking for it though. Okay, what's
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: what's that all about, Paul? You see the Cowboys busing? People? Know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I'm asking. The Cowboys have this big, gaudy bus with
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: the star on the side and everything. And I don't
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: know if Jerry Jones may or may not be on there,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: but they're they're contingent sort of travels around downtown Indie
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and this enormous bush. Right, yeah, you see, I have
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: seen it. There may or may not be entertainment going
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: on in the bush. Yeah yeah. If I end up
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: in the bus, I'll be sure to take a picture
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: of All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna guess that your
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: phone will be confiscated if you go on the bus.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I could just see Dukes walking the streets of Indianapolis
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: with his theme song playing, and you know, Deuce has
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: returned to Indie. Deuce, Right, all right, well dudes, if
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: anything does you know happen and that's worth calling back,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: do so, do so? I will so. Yeah, we should
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: have some good guys going between one and two. So
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: if anything big happens, Yeah, we got the Bill's contingent
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: is scheduled at one, as Mike said so, and then
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Jason Light and arians a little after. If you figured
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: out Saint Elmo, did you get reservations multiple reservations, Yeah,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: there's multiple reservations. We're doing our best. We might have
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to go in there and swill o our weight around.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: We might both dropping infect kurse. Matt will take care
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: of you. Okay, now I'll get you a ten thirty table.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: All right, good luck out there. Well, all right, Duce
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: from nothing really going on yet, Yeah, it looked it
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: looked pretty empty on the live shot that they did. Yeah,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: there was supposed to be an NFL network. The Broncos
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: were supposed to be off at twelve and twelve fifteen,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and I didn't see anything on NFL. Yeah, we've getting
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: shots of the podium. There. There you go. There's the aforementioned.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Jason is a Light who I believe said something along
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the lines of the light is always on or you
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: always leave a light on for I like Tom Brady. Yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: has always something like that light get it, I do
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: get it. I didn't like it. I just moved on.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: But you know he's been there a long time, hasn't he?
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: He has? He went to the Cardinals first, was that right? Oh?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I thought he went right to Tampa, But you could
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: be right. I forget these, but he's been he seems
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: like he's been there for a long time. Yeah. I
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: remember when he looked young. Um, let's see that old.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: That was a rocket shot. He looks older like older. Yeah,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: somebody's been there for like two days now, professorial, Like
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I remember when he was a kid. Um. Addison from
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Fresner writes in general offseason nonsense, I wanted to lead
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: off by saying that Paul's appearances on the Sunday Morning
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Football Show were appointment listening. I have some two weeks
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: in a row. Has some advice for you on that
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: show to talk? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you need to talk
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: because you can't let him just go and ramble. That's tough. Yeah,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: you gotta talk from Paul. Take the lead. That was
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: a little hungover this week? Is that right? Yeah, it's
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: a little bit. That's that's my one piece of advice
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: for that show. I was curious about your guys take
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: on the idea of taking the red pen to something.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I think it is crazy that Arians felt compelled to
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: come out and defend himself by saying he didn't use
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: a red pen specifically. My questions are, does someone using
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: a red pen on your work bug you and you
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: even understand why it bugs people? No, you're I think
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you're you're talking about the actual pen as if that's
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: the problem. But the thing is, it would bug me
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: if Fred said to me, Paul, I want you to
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: write a five thousand word feature on Robert Craft and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: just post it. And then I wrote the five thousand
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: word feature on Robert Kraft and I had carte blanche
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: because that's what you told me to do. And then
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: in turn, you said, oh no, before you post that,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: let me see it, and he just disapart, yeah, you know,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and made all kinds of changes. I would be a
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: little miffed now if he has said to me, Paul,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I want you to do a five thousand word feature
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: on Robert Kraft. When you get it start putting it together.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: When you get it, you know, come and see me.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: We'll go over it, and then we'll post it. He
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: could eviscerate the whole thing with a red pen and
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have any problem with it at all, right,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: because he's up front, he's telling me what he is expecting.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if Bruce arians told Byron Leftwich
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and Tom Brady listen, I'm on the shelf. You guys
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: got to come up with the game plan this week.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: It's all you. And then all of a sudden they
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: come up with the game plan and he just completely
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: changes it. All that would bother me. Yeah, But if
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: it's the head coach, well within his rights to make
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: adjustments to a game plan, I think. And he just said,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you know, you guys get started on that. I can't.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I can't be there, and then we'll go over it. Yeah,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I got no issues with that. But I also think
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: it's a general rule. Like in having talk and talk
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: to writers sports writers throughout the years, they rarely like
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: their editors. No, copy editors in general are really underappreciated people. Yeah,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: they get a lot of heat. I didn't write the headline.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't change that I didn't write that. Why is
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: he so heavy handed that there's a lot of you know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: it's like writers always complain about their editor poop poop
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: goes downhill. Yeah, that's in a newspaper office. It goes
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: downhill to the copy editors. And it's I think, I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: think in those guys are invaluable. They don't get the
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: dude and I don't And I think in today's world
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: they aren't enough editing. There isn't enough editing going on online.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: It's it's so easy to just publish, right that the
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: kind of the editor the editing process as kind of well.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: And there's also the pushed out the desire on the
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: part of these outlets to get things up in such
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: a hurry, right that they even forego the editing editing,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: and they're so bootstrap they don't want to pay. And
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I know people like look at editing and proofreading is
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: the same thing, and that it's not not like to
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Fred's point, there's a lot of typos that find their
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: way onto a website. It happens everywhere because there's not
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of eyes reading things before they go up.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: But editors, a good copy editor will find a better
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: way to write something and say something. He works in
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: conjunction with the writer and it makes the writer better,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: right or not, not even just that that's true, but
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: also like he'll look and say, um, this is this
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: is a factual error in attribution of things like that too. Well,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: when it's like fact checkers, yeah, fact checkers, Like when
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: you're writing hard news, Yes, for like the New York
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Times or the Wall Street Journal, you have to have
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: fact checkers because you can get sued, right, you know, yep, um.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But I think that that's kind of so. I think
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: it's that it's a hard one there with the arians
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: because you don't know exactly what the parameters were going in.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily being upset that someone took a
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: red pen to your your work. Some people that said,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a lot of writers who are
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: very thin skin, Yeah, very pretend active. They're all Stillman
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: in the Bay Area wanted to start a discussion on
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: an under the radar topic. That topic is backup quarterback.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I think we took it for granted. Brady's durability throughout
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: his career. Other than the two thousand and eight ACL injury,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: he never missed a game due to injury. With Hoyer
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: entering as a free agent, and whatever the deal is
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: with Stidham, I'm concerned with who will be behind Jones.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: This concerns me both from a development and potential injury standpoint. Developmentally,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Jones will have a new offensive coordinator slash quarterback coach,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: whatever the title is, would judge? I think having a
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: veteran presence could help Jones in his sophomore season. What
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts and where do you think the Patriots
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: will go for a backup? Do they resign Hoyer? They could?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I actually just posted if you want to look at
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Patriots dot com, we are doing our free agent forecast
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: position by position previews, and today the quarterback position just
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: went up. So apropos to your email if you want
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: to go up there and look. I did a little
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: roundup of all the quarterbacks who are available and who
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: they might be interested in. I think the emailer makes
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: a really good point too, Not so much for if
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: something happens to Matt Joe. Like I think most teams
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: are in trouble if their starting quarterback goes down for
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: any length of time. You know, I think you can
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: still find a way to get by and win some games,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: but you're probably no longer a threat if that's the case.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: But the more important thing I think is what the
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: emailer touched on there. And given all of the uncertainty
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: with the coaching staff, retaining a guy like Horrier might
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: be even more important this year for mac Jones than
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: it would if McDaniels was still here. Do you guys agree, Like,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: how many different things from last year you're going to
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: take away from them in one year? Like I had,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I had this offensive coordinator that I had a great
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: relationship with, and I had these other offensive coaches that
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: helped along the way. I had this veteran quarterback who
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: knew the system like the backup his hand, and he
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: really guided me throughout the year. Now they're all gone, Like,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think that would be ideal. I think there's
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: a chance that Horrier could be Well, let me ask
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: you a question. This is a is a backup quarterback
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: more important on a team that has an elite quarterback
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: like a Brady or an Aaron Rodgers or a team
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: that's a playoff contender where the quarterback is more middle
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: of the road like a mac Jones, in which case
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: is the backup quarterback more important, and I think in
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: the current one I do too, Yeah, because I think
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: because your offense isn't as dependent as the quarter on
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: the quarterback as the elite one. If you lose Rogers
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: or you're not replacing it, right, you're not replacing Brady right,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: he goes down. But if you lose Jones, an adequate
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: backup quarterback can still keep your water. You can closer
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: replicate quarterback if you have someone competent. Right now, I'm
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: probably you think Jones the backup quarterball, No, but I
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: think Horrier would have gone ten and seven last year. Yeah.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Don't you say when you say lose, you mean for
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: the year. Yeah, like period. Yeah, I agree with Fred.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I think friends, I think friend's onto something. I just
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: want to help out. Dave here, he's from Lancaster, California, says,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: years ago in the show, there was a conversation you
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: had about washing machines and how you had to buy
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a new one. I need your help. I can't remember
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: what brand you said was the best, and do you
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: still stand by that? My Samsung just broke. It broke
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: just a couple of months after the warranty being over
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: this to happen with everything. PS do not buy Samsung.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I hear there are a lot about their home appliances.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I agree. Uh, Speed Queen is where you want to
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: go now. I remember this now that you know the
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: problem with Speed Queen is you don't get all the
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: bells and whistles. It's not like Samsung or LG where
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: you get this and that and the other. Steam clean.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: But if you if you want just America, if you
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: want at years, if you want an American made washer
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: with a steel drum, that's just gonna last. Speed Queen
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: is where you want to go now. You haven't you today.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: If you have a huge family, though, you might want
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: to go with one of the bigger, you know brands
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: that you can do bigger loads. Not a fan of Maytag.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Maytag is Maytag's good durable, Yeah, but I like Speed Queen.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: The problem with all appliances nowadays is they're not built
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: to last. That's why you go with Speed Queen. The
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: different Speed Queens are the ones used in the laundry mats.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: They just go, but they're built to give you five
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: to ten years, not to Speed Queen. Okay, all the guys,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: all the guys that sell all of these different things
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: a wrong freend right street Queen. You won't find speed
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Queen in like the lows and the home. I had
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: never heard of it. Everything you have to go to
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: one city sales or gray As appliances like they have these,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: ask them what they think about speak queen, and they
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: all tell you the same thing. What they're not built
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to last more than ten years. Okay, now that's what
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: they told me. I get. I'm going on eighteen on
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: my washing machine, So I've beat the system. So you
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: beat the syste knock on wood. Yeah, I did the
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: same thing with my refrigerator. I just got a new
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: refrigerator for the first time since I moved into my house. Yeah,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: so I've been lucky with appliances now, dishwashersy I think
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I already. I think I'm on my second one of those,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: So that one not so much. Yeah, impliances, that's a
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: that's a racket. It is. It's a racket. Yeah, you
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: gotta have them. Yeah, and they're not made to last anymore. No,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: it's true. What is made to last nowadays? Freddy, I
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: don't already's built to last. I don't know stands the
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: test of time. But like I said, I if you're
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: looking for just a basic speed Queen washer dryer, American
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: made steel drum, no plastic, you go. You go with
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: the Speed Queen, all right. Now, some people say they're
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: a little it's a little tough on the clothes, a
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: little rough on them. Now I'm gonna find out it
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't clean the cloth, it makes holds of them, steal
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: drum with sharp edges. I just I just wanted to
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: help out Dave. There. I'm sure, I'm sure he feels right.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: He could be standing in the store and hes right right,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: you're right, you know, let me tell me, tell me
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: about this the guys you're calling a radio show. I am.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I'm standing in the middle of the store, and I
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: forgot when Fred's. Let me check in with Fred's to
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: see what. All right, he probably has like industrial uh
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: washing machine because of his oh and by the way,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: that a right he has, and by the way, the
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: speaker and all of the laundry that he gets stained
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: all the time. And they're less expensive too. That's another
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: good point, Dave. Where else would you go for laundry advice?
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: And friend makes a great point right now, Actually we
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: haven't even eaten the point. But but I need good
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: washing machine because of because problem. Eric makes a great point.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Who better than Fred to give laundry advice? Right? No
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: one needs it more than you, that's right. Uh. Christian
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: from la Is on the A Sick and hot Line.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: What's up? Christian? Hey, you guys. You know here we
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: are in the off season and pondering all the things
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: that we need to do administratively. I know that the uh,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: the guilt challenges that are coming up, but um, you
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: know what the club again? What the combine? Combine? Are
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: you in a machine shop? What do you airport? Exactly?
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I was in for with the you know, the blue bottom. However,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I was wondering which one of the guilts that do
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: you guys think if they didn't impad That translates to
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: how the athlete would perform on the field. For example,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: they be doing like the love throws. The guys can
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: easily catch it over the head. But when you're wearing
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: shoulder pads, your catch radius changed it, right, Well, I
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: mean back in the day they used to wear the
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: big pads. That doesn't really affect. Yeah. To me, it's
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: all about contact, Like it's not necessarily how they're draft. Yeah. Yeah,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: anybody can come across the middle knowing there's no one
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: there to knock the lights out and make the catch.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: But yes, you have the toughness to do that. No
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: one's going to get hit. I mean, if you want
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: to look at a New England specific one that people
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: write about a lot at this time of year, it's
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: the three cone drill for you know, I don't necessarily
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: buy it. It's Christian. That's a big Patriots thing. You're
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: absolutely right, know they talk about that every year with
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: especially with receivers. Who are you know, in the in
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: the slot type category interior? Can I address that for
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: a second, yes, what what position would you say the
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Patriots have had the most difficult time trying to identify
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: in the draft wide receiver? Well, we would say there's
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: two cornide receivers, one in corners together. Yep. Maybe we
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: should stop looking at three cone drills so much. Yeah,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: well yeah, I mean if maybe we should look at
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: that and something else too, playmaking ability? Yeah, what do
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: you think game tape? Yeah, I don't know. It's they
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: have had trouble, you know, particularly in the second round.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: But then you look at guys like Cyrus Jones, he
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: was a first round pick, and they blew that he
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: was the second round to the second he was the
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: second round. Yeah no, But like, the wide receiver draft
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: has been really, really tough for the Patriots, you know,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: aside from Dion Branch one hundred years ago, they really
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: haven't identified a wide receiver in the draft. And yes,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not counting Julian Edelman because they didn't identify him
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. He's he was. They made him.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: He was a lottery picky. They got lucky. No, but
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not even saying they got lucky. I give them
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of credit for developing him, but they didn't
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: do it as a wide receiver. They didn't know what
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: he was. Like Deon Branch, wide receiver they identified and
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: he hit that, you know. You know, aside from Malcolm Mitchell,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: whose career was obviously cut short for injuries, they really
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: didn't do that with anybody else. Yeah. Yeah, It's it's
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: unfortunate that Mitchell had to have such an injury history
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: because he looked like he could have been something. But
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: at the same time, he probably would never have been
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: a Patriot if he hadn't been injured. Right, He wouldn't
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been available when the Patriots took Yeah. Yeah,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: so there's a lot of stuff, a lot of a
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: lot of construction cornerback and and um wide receiver. Yeah,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: and like it's a very simplistic thing, but it just
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: sort of popped into my head like that is because
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Eric is right. Every year everybody goes to the combine
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: testing and they look at the three cone drills and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: they say, this guy's a patriot, This guy's a patriot,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: this guy's a patriot. Well, maybe they should stop doing that. Yeah,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: they it's almost like they have they have better luck
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: developing guys that are either low round or undrafted guys
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: in the secondary than they do drafting it. Oh, the secondary,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: they've had great lucky undrafted guys. Yeah, Randall Gay and
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler and Jonathan John And you wonder why why
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: is that? You know? Why is it? Is the guy
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: hungrier and more coachable and willing to do what It's
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: a great question. That's a story. Yeah, that's a story
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: file to file that one. H Why have they had
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: so much success with undrafted cornerbacks? Yeah, as opposed to
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: as opposed to the ones they draft. Uh, little Game three, Bill,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: any commonality between the undrafted cornerbacks that you've had success
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: with you you'd have to go outside of him for
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: that answer. Yeah, Like maybe a Scott Pioli might give
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: you some insight on that one. That won't be something
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I can do. Mike Lombardi might give you some insight there.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: I don't remind me, um no, because you'll just say
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: because Bill develops him, That's what Mike Lombardi will tell
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: But why can't you do the same for a drafted guy? Exactly?
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: But that's what Mike Lombardi would tell you. It's all Bill,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with Jaz Jackson. Then then
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: it's all Billy, you know, Like, but he doesn't recognize
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: it that Paul's points go to somebody who will give
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: you an answer like here only might give you a
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: semblance of an answer. Yeah, but I also would like
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: to get Bill's perspective on that, sure, knowing that I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: would probably get well because in one way he's going
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: to be guarded because then it shows a failure with
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the draft that guys, you know, so he's going to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: be guarded and also doesn't want to give away any
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: secrets on how they developed right either. Do you want
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: me to tell you how you got the true success
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: with undrafted corners? Very simple? Who am I game? Three clues?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: You know it's only three of us? Are those only
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: two of you? So? Uh? First one, I played my
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: college ball at the University of Illinois, where my last
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: game played was the Liberty Bowl Unversity ill and I
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I was drafted in the first round, where three Hall
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: of Fame players were drafted at the same position with
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: me in the first round. Yes, oh, I figured, come on,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: well I was. I'm I was thinking more recent Yeah,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I was thinking modern era. The first thing I thought
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: of was Eugene Wilson until he said first round. Second one,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I played my college ball at Duke and Georgia Ben Watson,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Ben Watson, Ben Watson. And the final one I played
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: at Brown University. As I just realized how stupid that was.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I played at Brown University as a defensive lineman. Eric Rolling,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Good job, Eric, thank you, thank you. Paul. I pride
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: myself in those games, and I went winless. That was
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: a good job. Yeah, he's not even He actually had
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: not even given you an actual You dominated. I appreciate dominate.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: You dominated I'm not one to be dominated. Sam from
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Kentucky rights in he says, I got one percent milk
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: the other day and thought of you guys, Red purple right,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: it's not red. Regarding the draft, it seems like there's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of talk of drafting a wide receiver with
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: our first pick. I think that'd be great, but based
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: on how slow the defense looked during the tail end
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: of the season, my vote would be to pick up
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: a cornerback or someone on the defense that's fast and
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: can make plays. Our wide receivering corps isn't amazing, but
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I think they're good enough to get the job done.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I think the defense has more holes to fill. If
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: it was up to you, who would you pick? Or
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: would you pick a wide receiver or a cornerback slash
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: other defensive guy? And if you had to say one
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: or the other, what do you think Bill will do
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: for the first round? Yeah, defense, and I would go
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: corner cornerback that would be my number one pick, but
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: or or an offensive tackle. I would not want to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: take a wide receiver in the first round. I do
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: believe that it's a major, major need. I don't believe
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: what they have is good enough. I don't agree with
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: that part of it. I just don't want to take
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the first round because I think
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: they have other needs to fill. Ye, let's get back
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: to the phones. Rashad's in Baltimore. What's up, Rashad? Hey,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Hey? Um? I guess list the name. Well,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: y'all just talked about the wide receiver. I really want
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: the Patriots to draft the wide receiver. And I saw
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: they had a report. I guess the Patriots meeting with
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: the three wide receivers the day Bert to Williamson and um, okay,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I want I want to live, I want to live.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't really want Berts. I
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: was looking at Drake London. He kind of reminds me
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: of like what Nakill Harry probably would be if he
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: got here. You just just Drake London is much more
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: athletic than to kill Harry Drake. Drake London is a
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: really good athlete. Yeah. So I mean, I'm with you though,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: But I'd be okay if they drafted a wide receiver
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: in the second round because there's a lot of them. Yeah,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: they just got to get the right one. That's all, yeah,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: you know, and that's been difficult for them, yeah, over
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: the years. Um. One thing I would caution you though, too, Rashad,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: When you read about players meeting with teams at the Combine,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: pretty much every player at the Combine meets with almost
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: every team throughout the week at some point, So try
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: try not to fall into the trap. I I understand,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: and you know that at this time of year, people
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: are desperate for any sort of news, But I just
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: for people who aren't maybe as clued into that. A
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: lot of times teams meet with a player specifically because
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: they don't know that much about him or her. Um,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: they don't know about his personal side more than anything.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Like they have plenty of game tape on these guys,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: but they want to get to know some things about
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: him to see if he'd be a fit for their system.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: They're kind of uh, you know, organizational structure, yeah, their culture. Um,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: so it's not it's it's a lot of times it's
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: an information gathering thing more than it is like we
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: definitely want this guy, you know. I mean it could
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: could be the case. But when you look at if
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: you go back and look at a lot of the
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: draft picks over the last ten fift teen years. A
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: lot of them in some cases didn't even meet with
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: the Patriots at the combine or at at all during
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: the pre draft process. So it's a little bit of
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: a yeah, it's a little bit of a specious argument
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, not necessarily on purpose to
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: be smoking mirrors, but it's not necessarily an indication that
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: this team loves this play. But I guarantee you the
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Patriots are interested in every you know, like they want
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: to know about everybody. They're like if if there's a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: guy raided in the top ten in any position, the
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Patriots are doing their work on them, you know. So
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: certainly on defense, I would hope, yeah, And I mean
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: I would like the wide received. I mean I would
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: like a defensive player. But the way I'm thinking, like
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: the draft board would shake up, it would be probably
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: like value, so probably wouldn't get like maybe a good
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: corner at that twenty one spot. Maybe it might be
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: some wide receivers that dropped down and they might be
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: at twenty one. But yeah, I'm all for a defensive player.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I'm all for anybody who can bring some speed, athleticisms,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: any kind of umph into the defense. Yeah, it stinks
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: this hear that there aren't quarterbacks that are gonna push
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: these guys down. You know, yes, I agree, Freddy. Yeah,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: all right, thanks for shot. And your chances of trading
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: up are a lot smaller than they normally would be too,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: because of the dearth of draft picks that the Patriots have.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: They only have six. Right, if you're gonna trade up,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be investing in either future picks or a
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: player and a pick, and they probably are going to
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: be doing that. Eldred is here on the phone to
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: yell about wide receivers. I'm sure, what's up, Eldred. Hey,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: So that looks how y'all doing it good? Hey? You right? Fred?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I love all of y'all gone wide receiver first, and
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: I don't agree with the sucking day wide receivers that
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: left doctors in their crew but alive and uh William
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Wilson and the other guy they're gonna be around twenty one.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Stanley gonna be gone, the other corner gonna be gone,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: and the linebacker that we're like for Georgia. See, I
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: think Stanley could go anywhere. I think Stinley is a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: wild card. And I saw Daniel Jeremiah on his conference
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: call and Mike Mike Desso wrote up a piece on that.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I think Stanley could go anywhere. He could be available anywhere. Yeah,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: he's ranked him at fifteen. Yeah he I mean he
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: could be in. He could go in the top ten,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: and he could go in the second round. I think
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions about him because of the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: last two years and all the injuries he had. He
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: didn't play much. Yeah, but I'm like the previous call,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I like a lave always did when he was in Ohio.
• 1:07:31
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• 1:09:59
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• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: as their head coach. And I think there was a
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: lot of talk at that point about that. But I
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: think it seems that the Tide teams to have changed
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: more towards well. When he originally came back last summer
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: he decided to return, everybody reported that they had made
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: an arrangement with Rogers that they would agree to trade
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: him if he still wanted to be traded after the season.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: The Packers GM Brian, I don't really know how to
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: pronounce his Gudenuss Gudacust has said that he'd never made
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: such a promise to Rogers. That to me is worrisome
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: if you're a Packers fan. Yeah. So now everything looked
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: like it was kind of going good. You know. Rogers
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: said he would you know, he would talk about it.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: He'd made no brash declarations. Well I'm out now, you know,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: the season ended. He was disappointed. He said he would
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: take some time, but he would make a decision quickly
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: on his future. There were no indications that he was
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: imminently leaving, And now the Packers are publicly saying, well,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: we never told him, We never said that, We never
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: said that. Okay, maybe you're right, but why are we Yeah,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: why are you doing that? Like? Yeah, to me, I
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: could see that being something that that bugged Rogers. Um oh,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: the phones are stacking up here, um, patriots unfiltered. So
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: let's see what people have to say. We'll start with
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Andrew in La. What's up? Andrews is stacked? Hey, guys,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: how's it going. How's your weekend? Good? Good? How about you?
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Not too bad? I spent some time with some family
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: from out of town, so it was a good one.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: But hey, um, on Paul's show a couple of weeks ago,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: I heard a stat that Belgee said, Um, I think
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: it was I can't remember the source, but they said
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: that the Eagles over the last ten years had spent
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: I think like one hundred and sixty or one hundred
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: and seventy million dollars more than the Patriots and Trap Trap.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but if we average that out, it's about
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen million dollars a year. The Eagles are spending more.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: And I know that's not always the case, and it's
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: you know, it depends on year to year, but that's
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: the price of a really good edge rusher or a
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: really good linebacker or a really good wide receiver. And
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: you know, for someone that says they do what's in
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: the best interest of the football team, like Bill Belichick,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: that doesn't always line up with the statistics that I'm reading.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: So I was just curious about people that kind of
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: still believe that Belichick is doing what's in the best
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: interests of the football team and he knows what he's doing.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: How does that kind of line up with you guys?
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: And maybe you, you know, Andrew or Paul because it's
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: his show, can answer this. But why did Felger pick
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: the Eagles? Are they the team that spent the most,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: the highest they're the highest Okay, Yeah, and they're known
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: for doing that. I mean, I think everyone knows that
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: they're really high role with Okay, so I mean so
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: so the same question you should ask of every other
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: team that hasn't spent as much, right, Okay, So now
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna yes we are, Why don't we just
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: I think what Andrew's trying to get at is do
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: people still have the same faith that what the Patriots,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: how they go about it is the way to do it.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: And I would say unequivocally the answer to that is yes, yes,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: um no, No matter what the Patriots due Andrew, that's
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: the way to do it. And that's the only way
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: to do it, according to a lot and that's not all,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: not all, but a lot of Patriots fans. And that's
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: why I brought up earlier in the show about Jase Jackson.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: I want to know what you think now, right, No,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: that's fair, and I don't want the Patriots to sign
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: this guy to a long term deal. And then you
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: tell me it's a great move, master stroke by Belichick
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: when you actually think before the deal was signed that
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: they should let him walk, right in vice versa, Right,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: I want to know what happens, what you think beforehand,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: because I'll tell you right now, Andrew, a vast majority
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: of the vocal Patriots fans who call into shows and
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: right into opine about the Patriots, we'll be on board
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: with whatever Build decides. That's the way it will be.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, it'll be adamant as well.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: Whatever the whatever the Patriots did, it was the right
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: thing to do. Yeah, yeah, and then you're crucified if
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: you happen to disagree with what Bill Belichick. No, but
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: I think, I think when I think a lot of
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: people are questioning Bill right now about why isn't he
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: naming an offensive coordinea? Why is he doing that? Why
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: isn't he naming a defensive coordina? And I've heard just
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: as many people saying that it makes sense. You keep
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: these these job just titles. You don't need them. They're
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: not important. I know. I've heard many people people are criticizing.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: I've heard many people defending the people on the radio
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: that the hosts criticize people calling in no, no, no,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: that's the way to do it. Keep them all in
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: their toe, my god, hungry. No. There's a lot of
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: criticism out there to do more with that. Bill gets
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: all the credit as he succeeds, but then he can
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: blame people that don't have coordinators assigned. You know, if
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: that's a master stroke, he's he's done it well, he's
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: done it well. I mean people, Fred Fred falls right
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: into it. How many times has Fred told you? And
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: he does it with the smallest coaching staff in we
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: have not true, but he says it every day, less coaches.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. But yet when they go when
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: they go seven, when they go seven to nine and
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs. One of the reasons that they
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs isn't because he doesn't have enough help,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: was Cam Newton. It does not because he doesn't have
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: enough help. So you see the master strokes that Belichick
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: has has pulled off. It's a master class in deception.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: I know people just think he's the greatest ever. I
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: don't know why they do, right, because people like you
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: perpetuate the midst So you don't think he is, but
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: you agree he is. I agree he's a great coach. Yeah,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you that he's the greatest
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: ever or not, but I think he's a great coach.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: But I, unlike you, will criticize him when he doesn't
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: do it the way that I think he should. That's true.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: You will just automatically say, well, I thought this beforehand,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: but Bill didn't do it, so I must he must
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: know something that I know. Yeah, I'll give Fred credit.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Fred says I was wrong. Yeah, you know Bill did
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: it that way, so he was right. I listen. I
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: was very vocal when they traded Sony Michelle. I came
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: right out at that time. I didn't wait, he's hanging
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: his head on that one. I didn't wait. There plenty
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: of there's plenty of of examples of me not being
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: in line. But I think for the most part, no
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: one does it. No one does it. No one's perfect.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: But no one does it better, you know, right, no one? Yeah,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: but nobody. I don't know what that means, Like, no
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: one does it better, No one's perfect. You know. Should
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: we be questioning about whether he's doing things in the
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: best interests of the team. No, we shouldn't be questioning that. Well, okay,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: you know he does do things in the best interests
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: of the team. You know, you don't have to agree
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: with every one of them. But but I'm not. I'm not.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: That's how we get in these problems. We don't question.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to question his motives like you can
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: question his moves and whether you agree with that. But
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: you know you're you're now saying, well, he's mutinous your question.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: He questions his motives in Super Bowl fifty two um
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: with with Butler. No you don't know, unabashedly no, No,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: he wasn't in the right mindset. He was wasn't in
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: the right mindset, Butler. It was crying because he was crying.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's Freddie. His mind wasn't right. This
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: is why where we need the cameras, because he's got
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: the smirk on his face. This is why you are
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: the best who's ever done this. That line right there,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: he was crying. He was crying because he didn't there
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: can't have a guy in they're all emotional. Gotta let
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: Johnson bad EMSI win it for you. Uh, let's go
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: to Sean and Vancouver. What's up, Sean, Paul. I want
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: to clarify Thursday in my email, it's not that pretty
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: much was saying what you you said today. It's it's
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: not that I want the Patriots not to sign Jasey Jackson.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: I'd love them to do that. I just said, I
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: don't think they will, Like he said, they have too
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: many needs. I just don't. Yeah, I would rather know
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: what you think they should do, other than what you
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: think they will do. Like we can predict it. But
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: like if you think they should, then you should be
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: mad if they don't, well, I'd rather they keep every player.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: There's never a time I want them to cut a
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: good player. But I don't. You know, it's not my money.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna be about money. It just it's it won't.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: But um, I think they won't value the player the
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: way you do. I think it's. Yeah, that's the thing.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: I think if they thought he was as good as
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Gilmour was, they sign him. You know, Um yeah, they
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: just because that's the thing. They will play. They will
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: pay a player that they think is worth it. But
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: it's it's tough for them to say. They don't think
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: as many players are worth it as other teams do
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: for some reason. For whatever reason. You know, they're frugal
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: with their money. It's not it's I think they're frugal
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: with their evaluation. They're tougher in their evaluation of players,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: and maybe some other teams are. I don't think it's
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: a matter of being frugal and it works when you
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: have the best who's ever played, yeah, right, but not
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: so much when you like I don't think it's a
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: matter of being cheat, because that's what you're saying. I
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: think it's I'm not saying they're very tough with how
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: they rate players, and for them to admit, like a
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: guy is worth the money, that's hard. That's harder for
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: them than I think than other teams. But there are
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: but there are teams that are willing to overspend to
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: get a talented player right, and a lot of teams
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: and a lot of those players I think this regime
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: would say he ain't worth it. No, I know, but
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: but but it's not like But the part that you
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: miss is they're wrong a lot when they do that,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: but they're also right a lot. Well, but there's nobody
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: nothing they just look at one right all the time
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: when they do that, not all the time because they
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: because they won for twenty years time well, having the
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: best player who's ever played, they won for twenty years
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: and that validated they were right about him too. By
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: the way, how how so like they they elevated him
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: right away. Right, they elevated him right away. They wouldn't
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: pay him. Did they let him walk after twenty years? Right?
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: They let him walk because they didn't value him the
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: way other teams did, and other teams won super bowls
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: with him. They did all right with him? Oh, John
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: had not enough? Sean had enough of us? Yeah, they did,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: all right. Uh. Jeff's in Texas. What's up? Jeff? Hey, guys,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: how are you good? All right? Yeah? Thanks thinking my call? Uh. Um,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: I got a couple of points I like to put in,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: but before I do. As far as j C. Jackson, um,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: I am definitely saying, um, let him go or trade
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: him away, and you get to take that money and
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: spread that money around. Um, maybe you know some to
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: sign some of the veterans to bring in some new
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: free agent veterans. That's that's my take on that. Okay,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: I like him. As far as the yeah, as far
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: as the draft, Um, my precursor is, what if what
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: if the Patriots signed Juju Smith Schuster h Could they
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: sign him before the draft? Possibly? Yes? Oh yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, any time after free agency starts March sixteenth,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: any time after March sixteenth, they can Yeah, okay, so
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: so so this is my scenario. Then, so let's say that.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Let's say that does happen. Um, I just want to
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: stay when we get to our pick at twenty one
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: if if, um, we don't have somebody that's the Patriots
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: have been eyeballing, say either offfense, defense or cornerback. If
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: somebody calls Belichick and says, hey, we'll give you a
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: fourth and a seventh or something next year or whatever,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: I think Belichick wants to load up on pick, and
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: I'd be okay with that. And then as far as
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: another wide recept Wait, wait, wait, what are we getting
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: for the fourth and the seventh? What are you what
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: are we giving away for the fourth and seventh? We're
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: giving up. I'm just saying, like our twenty first pick.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I would never, Oh my god. I'm just saying,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: what would you know? What would you guys think it
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: would be worth our first round pick? It'd be worth
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: their first round pick. And it depends if it's hire
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: or lower, like you could get like a two and
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: a three or something like that. Yeah, or first round
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: pick next or first round pick next or a player yeah,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: and a pick. Yeah, So I'm good with that unless
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: there's like a guy they absolutely wanted, but somebody calls
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: in with offers that. I mean, so you're open to
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: trading down, which is fine. Yeah, I think trading down
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: makes some sense in this scenario, this in this year,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: I would, you know, fashion against that to see what
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: held the board unfolds and see like like Jeff said,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: like if there's a guy that Patriots really like at
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: a position that they really need, um, a lot of
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: groundswell all of a sudden for Juju Smith Schuster. By
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: the way, I'm not in love with him, Okay, me neither. Like,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: even if you got him, I would still draft a
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: receiver in the one you liked. You know, so you're
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: leaning towards you want a first round receiver. No, if
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: this one you like, yeah you you. I want to
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: take the best player available. This is this. I mean,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: we don't have to keep going down this road because
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: I know he's gonna have that smirk he's and eventually
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: he's gonna make me pop. Yeah I want. I want.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: What he's telling you is whatever they take, he's gonna
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: write on. Yeah, I want to take the best player available, right,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: So that's a great nebulous like phrase to use, that
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: you can never be proven wrong. It's great, there is,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: it's great. It's a great way to go through life.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: We all agree that there's so many things that they need, right,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: so pick one. You can only pick one. You're in
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: charge of the draft, Fred kersh, who do you pick?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: But you don't go into the draft saying we're going
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: to take a cornerback in the first round. That's stupid,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: I think is the most like the do you need
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: what's number one on your your need? Speed on defense?
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: A position can give me a position that it's a
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: master class. That's stupid to do that. I'm not gonna
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: kill you. Like on draft, I and said friend friend
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: thought they should take a corner. The caller that thought
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: the first hour, the caller called in and asked me
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: and Paul, we both agree we would take a cornerback
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: if all you know, all things, if everything's even, yes
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: we're taking a corner, which they never are. But if
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: they are in the game, okay, I'll take it's a
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: hypothetic if it's if it's all. But but you love
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: to just say, like basically, well what if they really
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: like them? Yeah, well, no, poop. They really like him.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: They took him. They really liked nikkil Harry. So they
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: draft a kicker, they drafted them. You're okay with that,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: Like they don't draft them in the first round because
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: they don't like them. The Patriots will never do that.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: How do you know? I never. You can never say
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: never with the never gonna draft a kicker. You could
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: never say never with Bill Belichick. There's another ground swell
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: that's going on. So people have Jake Bailey out of town.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: Have you seen this? No, there's like a lefty punter,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: you know, one of these stop it. No, not you,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: I'm you're talking about Billy didn't have a great year.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: He didn't. But you don't think that's a possibility. No,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: I don't. Oh, I do I think he I think
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: it was injured for most of the year and had
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: a down year coming off of an All Pro count.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: Is in the fifth round you couldn't see them drafted.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: So this is I think he's a good player. Is
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: this his fourth year coming up? This would be his Uh?
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's his fourth gets fourth year? Yeah, I absolutely,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't rule it out. I don't think
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: it'll happen. I think it'd be dumb because I don't
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: think Punter's cost anything. But yeah, I absolutely would not
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: rule it out. I gotta look up the guys. I
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: think he's a good a good player, and I don't
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: think they I think they can cut him a little
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: slack from last year. I think it's a kid from
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: San Diego State. There's that matter. Raisa Riza. I think
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: that's the guy I'm thinking of. But yeah, a lot
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: of people have like him mocked to the Patriots in
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: like the sixth round, which I can't stand something. Let
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: me ask you, guys, So first round, first pick, and
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: you know the Patriots end up taking a linebacker instead
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: of a cornerback, You're gonna be upset. Nope, No, all right,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: So that's all I'm saying. Yeah, but no, But what
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: you're saying is you think it will be the right
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: move no matter what. Like, if there's a cornerback that
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: I like more than the linebacker that they take, I'll
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: be mad. No, if the guy's a bus, he's a bust,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: you know. No. What I'm saying is if I like, uh,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Derek Stingley or Trent McDuffie and he's available and they
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: take some linebacker that I don't like as much. You'll
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: just say, well piled and they like that. Whoa whoa,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: whoa whoa, whoa whoa. How many times in our draft
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: show do we have our guy that we think, oh draft,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: you know, picks coming up? Who do you want? And
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: I get upset because they didn't pick my guy I
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: could think of, Justin Jefferson. It happens as many times
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: as you. We all have our guys that we really
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: really like Justin Jefferson, and I think he went off
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: the board right around when they picked. And they all
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: have our guys that we like, and we get disappointed
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: when they don't. You get disappointed, and then the next day,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: after you sleep it off, you come back and say,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: you know, the more I think about it, this was
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: a great pick. You look at it as a whole,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: and you do a little bit more recent and you
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: get educated, you get educated. You know, rarely do I
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: say get educated education. I rarely say that you do
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: better at the draft. I really say that picks were great,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: because that's no, you don't know. I'll give you that.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: But you get on one of those guys, you get
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: on board with their picks more quickly than some of us. Yeah,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: I mean I get pumped up. Sure. The other thing
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: I like about the seven round mock drafts, Yeah, somehow
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: these guys that do that find a way to pick
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: seven guys that you know, oh yeah, right, pick you know,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: I know, like fifty guys in the draft. Yeah. And
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: somehow I got a guy that I really, I'm intimately
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: a like, I know, you know, really well, I scouted
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: this guy and I got him at two thirty years.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't think he'd be there either. Should have gone
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: in the second round. He's available in the seventh. Sure,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: I'll take him. Right. Let's go to Travis and chapel Hill.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: What's up Travis? Hey, guys, Hey, I just got two questions.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: My first. I started listening to you guys right after
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: the Detroit game on Sunday night a couple of years ago.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: You guys were talking about how the Patriots needed to
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: get feed on Deefet. I know that we've drafted players,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: but we haven't seen the speed yet. On defense, I
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: would agree the defensive bats like Bugger Williams chunk playing
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: linebackers at speed more than the speed that we want.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Light the Devin white the bush. Yeah. I think it's
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: a great question, Travis, and it's one that we've been
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: talking about for a while, um as you just alluded to.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: But I do think that he values size in the
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: middle over speed. I do think that's a philosophical trait
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: that Belichick is He's more interested in the two hundred
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: and forty five two hundred and fifty pound linebacker who
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: might not be quite as fast as a two hundred
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: and twenty five two hundred and thirty pound linebacker. Yeah.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Do you also think that the style or Bill's philosophy
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: on defense, especially guys on the edge, hinders them flying
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: around like they're so focused on your job and take
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: the instincts out of it, you know, and it makes
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: them look slower. Could be you know, could Yeah. So
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, you know, High Tower this year,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: like I know he's slowed down, He's not, but like
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: sometimes he just looks like he's you know, you know,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't the only one either. There are a lot of
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: players on defense that we saw looking like statues. Yeah,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: just kind of like that's why I just want to
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: see it sort of a changing of the guard. I know,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: I you and I had a long discussion about this
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: during the season. I want to see Ouch. I want
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: to see mcgron next year if he's healthy. I want
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: to see Ronnie Perkins. I want to see some some
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: fresh blood. And if they can't play, let's move on
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: and get rid of those guys too. I'm not married
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, but I think that they've sort of
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: capped out the High Tower Collins van Noy iteration of
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: the linebacker corps. Yeah, all right, Travis, thanks for calling in.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: Neil writes in um from New Brunswick. Word, does Fred
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: have stock and speed? Queen? Oh my goodness, was embarrassing
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: his offseason check list. Tag Jackson, hire an actual coordinator,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: resign Hoyer, Let High Tower go and draft a wide
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: receiver in the first round. Go Ukraine, he says, so
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: oh amen to that. Um. Yeah, so he wants to
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: get a in the first round. His whole list, his
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: whole m O there isn't bad. Yeah, listen, I'm I'm
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: if they draft a wide receiver or a cornerback or
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: a linebacker in the first round, I'll be thrilled. Yeah,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of positions to choose from in
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: terms of can I get it on record, I doubt
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: I doubt it. But what would you not be thrilled
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: with if they drafted in the first round? Punter? What
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: else beside snapper, beside specialist in quarterback? What would you
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: not be Okay, that's a good question. Um guard, okay, yeah,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: offensive line yep, But I tackle you. But like I know,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: I know this is people gonna like. I can't believe
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: you said that if they drafted a center, I wouldn't
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: be upset about that. That good center. Why you don't
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: like it? You don't like David I think I like Andrews.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: He's good. But if they if there's like this really
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: blue chip center, get him? Why because you think that
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: you think that's a vulnerability. No, well, I think he
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: can get better. We all talk about run blocking. Where
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: did they draft David Andrews? They didn't. Yeah, he was
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: an undrafted guy, So why would you take him in
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: the first round? Because he's a blue chipper. You know
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: this is a guy. I'm talking about, blue chip guy.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: And how much better is a blue chip center than
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: David Andrews? You don't know because you haven't had one. Really,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: they had Damien Woody in the first round. How good
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: he was the first rounder. How good? How good a
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: run blocking is the Detroit Lions offensive line? Do you think?
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, because they drafted Frank Ragnow in
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: the first round a couple of years ago when Matt
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: Patricia was there. Okay, did it make a difference to
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: the line. I don't know. You don't know. I would
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: be I would say, no, apoplectic. If they drafted an
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: interior offensive line. Yeah, I wouldn't do a guard. But
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: if like, like a guy that is like that's what
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: he is, Like if it was a tackle and then
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: he ended up eventually like moving in like Isaiah Win
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: you've always wanted to do. Yeah, Like, I don't think
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: I would be pissed off about that. Yeah. But if
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: they drafted just a guy who likes a center. But first,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: but if if the I mean at twenty one, but
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: if the scouting report isn't I know, scotting reports aren't
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: always that, But if the scout report is this guy's
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: a sure fire blue chip Hall of Fame candidate, you
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: wouldn't take him. Nope. I think they got bigger needs
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: bigger because I think the difference between that guy and
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: David Andrews is negligible. Yeah, so David Andrews a potential
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. No, I just think he's a good player. Yeah,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: I think that. By the way, between a Hall of
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: Fame caliber player at a position like that, ye, well,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: you're at the difference between like a an also ran
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: wide receiver in a Hall of Fame as enormous golf.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: You have to be really good to get in them.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're a center away from winning or
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: being competed. Well, you're not. You're nothing away from no
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: team anywhere, every exactly, but that you can say that's
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: for the same position, for any position. You're not anything
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: away one position. Yeah, I think you can say that.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: No you can't. We're not a cornerback away from winning
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. No, we're not a wide receiver away
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: from winning. There are teams that are, though you talk
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: about us when we're nothing one position, we're not. That's
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: why I wouldn't waste it on a center. Yeah. I
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: don't think if the guy's a great player, it's not wasted.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: It's not wasted like they have. They're nine players away
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: from Super Bowl contention, and they draft a center in
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: the first round and they become nine players away from that. Yeah,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: I think cornerback, wide receiver, UH, linebacker, tackle, any of
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: those I could see being in the first edge. Edge,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: defensive players, defensive players, like there's a defensive tackle, any
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: of those any sort. Right, there's a lot of needs.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: I would not put center on my list of any
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: of those needs. Well, Paul class, is there any position
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: that you would be? That's the only one he had.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: So it's just basically telling you that whatever they take,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: he's going to be happy. I'm good. I'm okay taking
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: good play See, I won't be happy if they take
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: a defense. I'm okay taking really good players. And that's
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: in friend's defense. That's his master class right there. He'll
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: fall back on they think he's great. I'm obviously gonna
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: suppress my disappointment with the position by saying he's a
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: really good playoff. When they when they drafted Devin mccordy,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, what, Like, I wasn't on board with that,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: but I was, you know, as a quarterback, I was right.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: But as a player for this team for a long time,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: he was absolutely worth the pick, no doubt about it,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: you know, but he wasn't a cornerback. Well, and that's
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: what they drafted him. In fairness, he made the Pro
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: Bowl as a rookie as a cornerback. He did he
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: had was in a corner No, yeah, I know that,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: but he was. I mean people thought after his first
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: year he was a cornerback. I think that's one of
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: the picks that they made that was the most in
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: line mine with conventional wisdom. I think everybody in their
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: brother had him going between like twenty five and thirty five. Yeah,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: and that's right where we took him late in the
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: first round, right, Yeah, I forget the number. I think
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: it was thirty, it was, yeah, yeah, it was that
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: one of the years coming off of Super Bowl, it
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: was somewhere round there. I think that was one of
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: those picks that because he went to Rutgers, people were questioning.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: And then Bill Bill made the mistake of saying he's
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: a four down player, and people like they drafted a
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: gunner in the first round, Like, no, that's not what
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: he said. Yeah, that's not what Bill said. Here's where
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: I will defend Bill. That's not what he said that day.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a that was a really good pick.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: The time you drafted a guy in the first round,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: and he's part of your franchise for a decade plus.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: That's a good I beg your pardon. He was twenty seventh,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: twenty seventh, Yeah, okay, that was an off year. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: twenty that was twenty ten, so coming off that loss
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: to Baltimore for two thousand and nine season, all right,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: that was one of the worst years in the dynasty. Yeah,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: um jacket and Abba writes in Jackson is worth paying,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: but he is not worth paying what the market will
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: give him. Thank you, he's worth paying, Fred, did you
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: just write that email? Thank Jackson for all the great memories.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: He's worth minimum wage and wish him well with his
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: next team except when they play the page. He's worth paying,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: just not what he's worth. Yeah, that's what he just said, right,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: He's not worth paying what the market right, what the
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: market will pay him is worth's worth worth paying? Means
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: what the market he does. He doesn't think the market's
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: right for him, so then he's not worth paying what
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: he says. He says, wish him well, right, he says,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I'm not making fun of that. I'm
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: just saying, like, you don't think he's worth paying exactly. Yeah,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: like you. I mean, it'd be great if I could
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: get you know, Jay Z Jackson for five million dollars.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: I think in five years, five millions, I think. I think.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for Jack in an Aba,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: but he'd probably say he's worth paying like fifteen millions,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's I don't think so, based
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: on the way he's say that email. Yeah, if you
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: think it's worth fifteen, but what's a couple of million
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: more eighteen? Yeah, Zach writes in from Brighton. I wrote
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: in last week regarding Jac to the Eagles for a
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: first round trade. Freddy agree that at first for Jac
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: is asking a lot. But would you include a pick
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: to get that trade done? So we give them Jac
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: and a pick for their first round? What pick? I mean? Yeah,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: because they have three picks in the first round, the Eagles,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: JC and what pick. I don't know. The third round.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: You do it if you might be able to get,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: you might be able to get what I do it.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: If I were the Eagles, now, yeah, but I would
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: I would just draft a cornerback in the first round. Like,
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think that taking a cornerback, giving up a
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: first round pick and paying them one hundred million dollars
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: is worth it for another team. I think it's going
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: to be very right interesting to see where Jackson lands,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: you know, like who ends up paying him? Like Philly
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: has three first round picks, Why would you trade one
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: so you can get a cornerback that you then have
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: to pay all this money? Wouldn't it just make more
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: sense to well? I guess you could make the argument
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: with one of those first round picks. I'm gonna get
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: somebody I'm absolutely sure of. You know, I'm gonna get
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: a cornerback who's gonna start a day one, and I'm
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: gonna be sure that he's going to be really good.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: I mean there's something to be said there, you know.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: But it's not just the difference. I know, and you
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: have to pay him. Yeah, I get it, I get it,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: but it's far more damaging. But it's what do you
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: mean damaging? Like I have to not only give up
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: a first round pick, I have to give up first
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: round pick and money and it costs you more. Absolutely,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: But I give up a first round pick and he
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: just plays. But if you think he's a's not gonna
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: kill me unless he's a bust. Yeah, But if you
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: think he's a sure thing, then okay, cornerback solved. You know,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. If you think he's worth the money,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: then you do it. Somebody's gonna pay him, Yeah, but no,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: someone will pay him. But I don't think someone's gonna
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: pay him and give a first round pick. Yeah, that's
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: the part of the equation that I don't agree with.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: I think if he goes to the open market, someone
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: will absolutely pay him. I don't I don't really have
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: much doubt about that someone will pay him. But asking
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: someone to give a first round pick and pay him, now,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: I have doubts about that. I don't think he's that
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: kind of player. Vashon from New York. Hey, guys, how
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: would you rank our offseason needs? We've kind of talked
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: about that. I would say tackle is the number one.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: As I think Brown and Win are on their way out,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: I think we let Jac walk as well. In that
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: we draft a corner in the second round and linebacker
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: in the third. How would you guys feel if the
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: Patriots went in that direction. I would rather the cornerback
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  Speaker 1: in the first round because cornerbacks in the second round
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  Speaker 1: are and I each a short thing. Wouldn't you say
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: that that's when you get Sorry. The majority of fans
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: that we're hearing from are like, let him go, Jac.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: I would say, it's about fifty fifty. Yeah, it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: pretty split. Yeah. I think some people want to just
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: they don't want to lose the commodity, sure, you know,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: and they think that makes the defense that much worse. Yep,
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: something that this is Christian writing in which one none
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: of the above. Something that hasn't really had a lot
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: of traction or been talked about a lot is linebackers.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: In your opinion, which is more important, linebackers or the secondary.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: If I had it my way, I'd work with Jac
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: to try and get something done, even though it might
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: be a waste of time. But if you cut him,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: as the famous words of Megan would do, get it.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: But if you cut him as the famous words of
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: Megan would do, I don't know what that means. Get
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: an affordable, decent replacement for Jac and try and get
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: a good, slash, quick size linebacker then can stop the
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: run and cover if asked to do so. I think
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: it's tough for to find the cornerback. I think a
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: lot of the I'd rather have the corner I think
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of our listeners take your train of thought
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: for it, Like, we'll just get a replacement for jac Jackson.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: That's that's decent and affordable. Okay, Oh why didn't I
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: think of that, like the risk of letting jac Jackson?
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: I said, franchise. No, no, no, I'm saying in general,
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: like whatever the Patriots do was right, Like if it
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: was that easy, then you would let everybody go because
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: you can automatically automatic everybody, right, Like, why would you
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: ever pay eighteen million dollars for what you can get
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: for six million dollars? Yea, like you can sign some
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: like was it is it Generius sneed from Kansas City
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: that everybody wants Snead the cornerback from the Chiefs. I
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's as good as J. C. Jackson.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he is comparable and a better
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: player for the value if you end up signing him
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: to a more affordable contract. But we could just say, like, well,
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: you just get a decent cornerback. Well, that doesn't make
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: you good, right with J. C. Jackson? Your secondary wasn't
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: good enough down the stretch. It was great during the
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: year when you were playing bad teams, but when you
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: when the rubber hit the road at the end of
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: the year, you couldn't stop anybody, and now you're losing
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: the best player off of that to replace with somebody
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: quote decent see I I'd franchise him and draft a
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: cornerback in the first round. That's what I posed today
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: in the notes. That would be the option. If you're
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: gonna franchise him, you still got a draft one. Yeah,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: Bill and Vista, California. Any thoughts on the rumors of
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: trading a second round pick for Calvin Ridley? Is that
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: a rumor? Has that been talking? A lot of people
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: have been talking about her for a couple of months.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: I don't I would do it. I don't know for
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: sure that that's what would get it done. If you're
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: the Falcons, Wow, we're up against it already. I know,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: Quick show. I couldn't. I can't believe Rick Show. Wow.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I would absolutely be in favor of trading
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: a second round pick for assuming that Calvin Ridley is,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: assuming that he's mentally ready to play Sean and Maine.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: I think J. C. Jackson is a better version of
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: Logan Ryan. I would like to keep him at top ten.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: Money but not top five. If Belichick wants to pay him, Okay,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: if not, it will hurt. But I will trust Belichick,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: Sean and May and Fred and Fox World. I actually no,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: but I give him credit. He's telling you I trust
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: I trust Belichick, Like put your cards on the table
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: before you. I say that with the same thing with you.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: Actually you're a master class. I say, I trust b
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: and you I trust Be. My point is, don't tell
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: me after the fact. I'm telling you right now. I
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: trust them. I'm sorry for you said that you think
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: that they should tag you. I do, and if they don't,
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's a mistake. Okay, okay, but you
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: can see you can do that and still trust Bill. Yeah,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to tell. So when they don't
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: tag him, no, you're going to be upset or not.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like, you know, resign, But I think
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: that I think they should like the draft. I think
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: they should do that, like seventeen point three million. That's
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be a bargain for one year more of it,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: based on what people are saying. More mistake that they
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: let him go or Sony Michelle, Oh yeah, come on now,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: you're just showing your ignorance. I'm asking you. I'm asking you.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: One's been up in arms for the better part of
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: a year up in arms. Yes, okay, Yeah, I like Sony.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: I like Sony when he was here, and I like
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: him now. You know, I stick with it. I don't
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: change my tune after she usually Yes, you do usually
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: when they're not. I didn't, you don't here. And I
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: don't think he did anything for the Rams. I've not
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: changed my team. He helped the Rams, he did, No,
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: he didn't, he did, ask asked the Rams. Yeah, we'll
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: see what the Rams think. They'll have an opportunity to
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: retain them. We'll see what they do. Well. Dude's gonna
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: get his second Super Bowl ring though. Yeah, sure is
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: good for him. It's delicious. Ever hear that coin of
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: commercial when he's got the jazz hands, It's delicious. God,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: you don't remember that it's to air on our program
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: all the time. No, And I'm pretty sure that we're
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble if we keep going. All right,
• 2:00:16
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• 2:00:19
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• 2:00:22
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