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The Buffet with Chad and Scooch, Episode 33 - Featuring Lauren Joffe Live In Delaware · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Coming to you from fabulous Las Vegas. The right side
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  Speaker 1: is the winning side. The late move is the correct move.
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  Speaker 1: Sports betting capital of the world. We all know when
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  Speaker 1: a sharp like me weighs in the lines move, it's
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  Speaker 1: a party for your ears. This is the Buffet with
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  Speaker 1: Chad and Scooch. I want to buy that guy at buffet.
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  Speaker 1: Here we are the Buffet Podcast with Chad and Scooch.
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  Speaker 1: I am Shad Millman of the Action Network joining me
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  Speaker 1: on the phone from Vegas, representing the Orleans Sports Book
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  Speaker 1: and all the board gaming books in the state of Nevada,
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  Speaker 1: the world's bookmaker, according to him, Mr Bob Scucci. Chad,
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  Speaker 1: how's it going? I am so good man. There's so
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  Speaker 1: much going on in the world of sports betting right now. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Later on in the show, Lauren Joffey, one of our
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  Speaker 1: Action Network contributors writers personalities. She is spending the day
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  Speaker 1: in Delaware. Today is is Tuesday. It's the first day
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  Speaker 1: of betting. Uh. In Delaware. The Governor of Delaware made
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  Speaker 1: the very first bet. He bet on the Phillies. No surprise,
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  Speaker 1: given Delaware's proximity to Philadelphia into Pennsylvania. He bet on
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  Speaker 1: the Phillies. Plus two oh six against the Cubs tonight. UM,
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  Speaker 1: Lauren Joffey is going to come on the podcast later
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  Speaker 1: on the show, going to talk about her adventures in
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  Speaker 1: Delaware and all the things that she saw. She's going
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  Speaker 1: to all three sports books in Delaware. Uh, it'll be great. Um,
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  Speaker 1: don't forget Go rate review and subscribe to our iTunes
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  Speaker 1: page for the Buffet with Chad and Scooch. Go to
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  Speaker 1: with the Buffet with Chad and Scooch on iTunes. Follow
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  Speaker 1: the Buffet Pot at the Buffet Pot on Twitter Scooch.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things we ask people to do last
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  Speaker 1: week was make suggestions for the Sports Betting Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to get to that. People made great suggestions.
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  Speaker 1: They made it on the iTunes page. They gave it
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  Speaker 1: to his via Twitter. A lot of names sort of
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  Speaker 1: for the inaugural ballot came through for the first class.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about that. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: that a little bit. Uh. We want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the NBA, but first I want to get your take
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  Speaker 1: on Delaware. Like, this is happening, man, this is really happening.
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  Speaker 1: When you're waking up today, what are you thinking I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited about it. I mean, it's to me, it's like
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  Speaker 1: the first step in like a long staircase that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: ascending up and uh and and the payoff is going
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  Speaker 1: to be big and uh. You know, I've been thinking
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  Speaker 1: about this moment for for many years, when you'd be
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  Speaker 1: able to take true sports betting in states outside of Nevada,
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  Speaker 1: and I just think it's tremendously exciting and just kind
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  Speaker 1: of can't wait to see to see how it progresses.
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  Speaker 1: As the self proclaimed world bookmaker? Are you disappointed that
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  Speaker 1: Delaware opened and they did not call you a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: I was waiting by the phone. You know, I'm here,
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  Speaker 1: I'm will offer my support, and I didn't get the call.
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  Speaker 1: For those who missed the podcast last week, Scooch, in
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  Speaker 1: what had to be a record turnaround, went from being
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  Speaker 1: very humble about not feeling like he needs to do
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  Speaker 1: anything outside of Vegas to declaring that maybe he should
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  Speaker 1: be the bookmaker to the world. Well, you got me
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  Speaker 1: thinking about it. You're like, you know the bookmakers. Listen.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I got you thinking about anything. You
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  Speaker 1: get all thinking about yourself because I didn't say anything
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  Speaker 1: in those five to ten seconds. You just sort of
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  Speaker 1: went from very humble Scooch to dr evil Scooch U
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  Speaker 1: with the flip of a switch. And I'm wondering this
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  Speaker 1: week if you plotted to, like, shouldn't I be in
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  Speaker 1: Delaware right now? Shouldn't I be making minds in Delaware?
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  Speaker 1: The governor be betting me Delaware right now? No? No, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I wish I wish we had a property in Delaware.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be nice. I think it would have been really
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  Speaker 1: exciting to be on the ground floor there. But I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm missing out in that respect. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have We'll have our day in the sun. It
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  Speaker 1: is amazing. It really is amazing that this is actually happening.
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  Speaker 1: It feels um you know, I'm ensconced in my office
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  Speaker 1: in New York and your Vegas and we're tracking get
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter and sort of following the feedback from the
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  Speaker 1: posts we haven't the folks we have in the ground there.
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  Speaker 1: But it just also it feels like, maybe because you
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  Speaker 1: and I are so immersed in this world, it feels like,
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  Speaker 1: really people are getting that excited to go to a
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  Speaker 1: sports book. Yeah, I know, I mean for us that
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  Speaker 1: we've lived it for so many years. And and you know,
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  Speaker 1: me waking up in every single day for almost thirty years.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like, h I'm oh, I always marvel at
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  Speaker 1: someone else's excitement about sports betting because I see it.
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  Speaker 1: A lot people come into the casino for the first
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  Speaker 1: time and they get enamored by the boards and all
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  Speaker 1: the lights, and it's exciting for them, and I'm thinking, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is you know, sports betting. You know, we've been
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  Speaker 1: doing it every day, but that's all. It Also is
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  Speaker 1: why we're seeing this boom in sports betting around the country,
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  Speaker 1: because so many people are seeing it and experiencing experiencing
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  Speaker 1: it for the first time. So that's why, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you ask me if I feel threatened by it,
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  Speaker 1: I know because I think it's just part of the
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  Speaker 1: boom and until the kind of plateaus, we're just gonna
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  Speaker 1: ride the wave. Um. It's funny people get excited by
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  Speaker 1: the lights. It's as if it's as if they're three
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  Speaker 1: look at all the lights. If you you've seen them
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  Speaker 1: in there, you know what I'm talking about. They're looking
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  Speaker 1: up on the board and they're just amazed by it.
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  Speaker 1: It is pretty amazing, Like how people whenever they want
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  Speaker 1: to sort of symbolize sports betting. They will always say,
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  Speaker 1: we got to get a big board, a big betting board.
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  Speaker 1: People love a big betting board like a Christmas tree. Yeah. No,
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  Speaker 1: the bigger the better, the brighter the better. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, even at one point I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out a way through some like computer graphics, like
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  Speaker 1: every time a line changed, I wanted that, uh, the
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  Speaker 1: the odds to grow bigger like a big Keno ball,
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  Speaker 1: like how it just expands throughout the here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like eagles minus five and then just kind of go
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  Speaker 1: back so that everyone can see the the latest line
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  Speaker 1: change and just kind of kind of add those graphics
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  Speaker 1: up there. I think it's ideas like that that will
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  Speaker 1: do one of two things for you. Scoog A might
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  Speaker 1: get you in the Sports Betting Hall of Fame one day.
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  Speaker 1: Be people are going to hear about this, and they
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  Speaker 1: might want to make you bookmaker to the world. That
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  Speaker 1: could be you know, you never know, So everyone out
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  Speaker 1: there listening grunelle, I feel like we need some kind
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  Speaker 1: of music that comes on every time we call Scooch
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  Speaker 1: bookmaker to the world. We're gonna get that done. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get that done for you, Scooch is gonna be like,
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  Speaker 1: like your walk up music. I was gonna say, let's
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  Speaker 1: throw it out there. See what kind of suggestions ever
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  Speaker 1: everyone has for that. I was at a minor league
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  Speaker 1: baseball game, uh last weekend in Hertford, Connecticut, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not too far from where I live. Beautiful stadium out there, amazing,
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  Speaker 1: like what they did. It took him three years to
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  Speaker 1: build it, and like for a year it's at idle
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  Speaker 1: because there was so much corruption in the building of
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  Speaker 1: the stadium that they basically had to stop and like
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  Speaker 1: refinance the whole thing. Um, it was classic sort of
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  Speaker 1: this is why Hartford can't get out of its own way.
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  Speaker 1: But the stadium now is amazing. It's the Hertford yard Goats,
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  Speaker 1: and like it's such a great evening to go. One
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  Speaker 1: of the players their um walk up music was the
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  Speaker 1: song um, I Am a lost boy. It's like a
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  Speaker 1: very sort of soft, aodic, sweet song. And I thought
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  Speaker 1: to myself, does he get like grief in the locker room?
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  Speaker 1: Because he's got sort of a very sweet kind song
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  Speaker 1: and everyone else is coming up to like some pretty
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  Speaker 1: energizing stuff that makes you aunt and I want to
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  Speaker 1: hit a home run. Yeah, so what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: I just I just thought of it. I'm actually looking.
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  Speaker 1: I admired his courage, I was, so I guess different settings.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for so, for something like that, I think
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  Speaker 1: most people would want to get pumped up. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: especially like when it's started with the relief pictures, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I could go back many years and to
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  Speaker 1: the first ones that I ever remember, as far as
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  Speaker 1: walk up music, and it was something that kind of
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  Speaker 1: had a meaning to it, you know. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: I guess a real soft one. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it would really inspire too many people, but if it
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  Speaker 1: inspires him, hey go for it. That's what I like
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  Speaker 1: about this world today. You get to own your choices. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. People of Delaware made a choice.
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  Speaker 1: They want sports betting. Good for them. What choices are
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  Speaker 1: people making with the NBA Finals? Tell me about what
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing? Where two games in the third game is
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow night, so a lot of people will be hearing this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, even after game three. I don't think it
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  Speaker 1: changes the narrative very much at all. Um, tell me
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  Speaker 1: about it. Well, I'll tell you last week. If you
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  Speaker 1: remember I said I thought people were going to come
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  Speaker 1: in really heavy on the Cavaliers, and you said, I
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to come in really heavy on the Warriors.
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  Speaker 1: And it turns out we were both right. We had
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  Speaker 1: a ton of action on the Cavaliers money line, and
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  Speaker 1: we had a ton on the Warriors minus the twelve
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  Speaker 1: and a half minus thirteen as it fluctuated, you know,
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  Speaker 1: half the point here and there. At one point, we
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  Speaker 1: were so buried on Cavalier's money on the money line.
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  Speaker 1: Was getting mad at the guys down in the war room.
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  Speaker 1: I was throwing him some looks because every time I'd
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  Speaker 1: go to a meeting, I'd come back and we'd beat
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  Speaker 1: thousands and thousands heavier on the money line. And I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: when are you gonna take some Warriors money on the
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  Speaker 1: money line at like minus eight dollars minus nine dollars
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  Speaker 1: And they're just looking at me, saying, the Cavaliers have
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  Speaker 1: no chance in this one. Let's just ride this one out.
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  Speaker 1: So so we had a little battle among the guys
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  Speaker 1: in the hub during that first game, and then ultimately
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  Speaker 1: I went with They kind of persuaded me and I said,
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  Speaker 1: all right, just take all the Cavaliers money you want
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  Speaker 1: on the money line, and right out of the gate
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  Speaker 1: in the first quarter, I said, we're in trouble here,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't say a word the rest of the game.
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  Speaker 1: I just shot looks to the guys every time the
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  Speaker 1: Cavaliers took and then when Steph Carry had a three
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  Speaker 1: to tie it up at a halftime, I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when the Warriors is a thirteen point favorite need a
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  Speaker 1: three to tie it up at halftime, I said, we're
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  Speaker 1: in real trouble. So, uh, when I had to leave
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  Speaker 1: at a couple of points during the game because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to watch anymore, but when it was one
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  Speaker 1: oh seven, one oh seven, that's I mean, I was
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  Speaker 1: sweating it because I figured we lost it, especially when
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  Speaker 1: before the free throw, which I figured he was going
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  Speaker 1: to make the free throw and the Warriors only would
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  Speaker 1: have had a couple of seconds to uh to take
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  Speaker 1: the lead back. So just what an unbelievable ending that ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: and then a reversal. Then in overtime, I'm actually rooting
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  Speaker 1: for the Warriors to slow down because now I don't
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  Speaker 1: want him to cover thirteens. So I mean, so these
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  Speaker 1: are the giant swings that you have when you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about a point spread being involved and the different ways
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  Speaker 1: and that you're rooting in the sports book the entire game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the Warriors to win, but not by
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  Speaker 1: more than thirteen. So when they're up by ten and
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  Speaker 1: they got the ball back, I mean, I didn't think
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  Speaker 1: they would take a last shot, but you never know,
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  Speaker 1: they might have. You know how, I know I've done
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  Speaker 1: a good job with my kids. Hell, I no longer
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  Speaker 1: have to explain to them what I mean when I
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  Speaker 1: say I want the Warriors to win. I want, I
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  Speaker 1: want to I want I want like the Calves, what
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  Speaker 1: do I want? You don't know what? You've done a
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  Speaker 1: real good job explaining to your kids. I can see
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  Speaker 1: I only want the Warriors to win. Well, I got
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  Speaker 1: confused because I was thinking back at my bets like
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  Speaker 1: I had. Um, you know, we are now doing a
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  Speaker 1: show on ESPN Plus called I'll Take that Bet, So
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: go subscribe to ESPN Plus dear listeners, um, and you
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  Speaker 1: can get the Action Network talent uh doing shows a
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  Speaker 1: few times a week, UM talking about what's happening sort
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  Speaker 1: of in the betting world and our picks for that
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  Speaker 1: night and so on. The premier episode, which was last Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Um me and Paul Duca, you know, former Catcher and
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  Speaker 1: and all Star made made four time All Star. We
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  Speaker 1: were the first two people and Luduca and I did
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  Speaker 1: a side action bet. Side action is like this fun
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  Speaker 1: thing we have it the Action Network. Um, go to
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  Speaker 1: Action Network dot com. But side action, like, we have
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  Speaker 1: a slack channel that is dedicated only to the action
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  Speaker 1: that is between everyone in the Action Network. And it
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  Speaker 1: is honest to god, like I have to start kicking
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  Speaker 1: people out because they're not doing their work anymore. They're
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  Speaker 1: only making bets with each other. And um so PAULI
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  Speaker 1: and I did a side action bet. He was wearing
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  Speaker 1: like this classic Brooklyn Dodgers peewee rees throwback jacket. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: side action bet. I said this on the show. Side
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  Speaker 1: Action bet the Calves plus seven in the first half,
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  Speaker 1: and he totally took the Warriors and the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I own this bet. So that's why I
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  Speaker 1: got confused because then the second I wanted the Calves
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  Speaker 1: in that in that first half. In the second game,
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  Speaker 1: the second game, I went all in on the Warriors
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  Speaker 1: minus eleven and a half, which I never do. I
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  Speaker 1: never bet a favorite that big, But it just felt
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  Speaker 1: like the spot, right, It just felt like I went
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  Speaker 1: through I went the other way too, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: let's make sure we're really high on the Warriors and
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  Speaker 1: game too. They really should have lost Game one, and
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  Speaker 1: now if there's going to be a blowout in this series,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's definitely going to be Game two. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: so that's why that's why I got confused, cause I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: wait a second, how was I describing what I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to my kids? Maybe I'm not such a great parent
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  Speaker 1: because I'm trying to think back about how it was
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  Speaker 1: describing my action to my kids. Yeah. Right, it's not
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  Speaker 1: whether you win or lose. It's important. It's by how much.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. Um, so what do you
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  Speaker 1: need right now in this series? Uh? Well, for the series,
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  Speaker 1: we actually need the Warriors to win. To win the series,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they were the they were the favorites most
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  Speaker 1: of the year, so they're not They weren't long odds
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  Speaker 1: at any point. And then at the beginning prior to
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  Speaker 1: Game one at eight to one, everybody was taking a
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  Speaker 1: shot on the Cavaliers to win the series. I mean
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  Speaker 1: every fifty dollar bet. It was just looking for the
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  Speaker 1: long odds on on the Cavalier is a big upset
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  Speaker 1: hoping for so uh, we need the Warriors there in
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  Speaker 1: in game. Actually, in the next Game three, I just
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  Speaker 1: went to four on the game. We were at five.
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  Speaker 1: We went to four and a half pretty early, and
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  Speaker 1: then just before we started doing this podcast, I went
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  Speaker 1: to four on the game because we're buried on the
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  Speaker 1: Cavaliers so so far right now in this game three,
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  Speaker 1: both on the money line and taking the points. So
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be Warriors fans again. I figured this is
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  Speaker 1: a game, I mean, if they're gonna if they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: win one, if they're going to prevent a sweep, you've
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  Speaker 1: got to think that it's down to zero going back
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  Speaker 1: at home. And then, as you know, there's another angle
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  Speaker 1: that's been going on the last couple of seasons, and
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  Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs, or particularly in the playoffs, I
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  Speaker 1: should say, when a team is down to zero and
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  Speaker 1: they're going back home, the play has been to bet
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  Speaker 1: them in the first half. And so you're seeing this
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  Speaker 1: big disparity between the first half line and the game line.
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  Speaker 1: So the first half line on the Warriors and Kazas
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  Speaker 1: to pick them and for a game that opened five,
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  Speaker 1: usually it's a right and around half the game line
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  Speaker 1: for the first half, but it's not. It's it's a
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  Speaker 1: pick them, reflecting that trend that the home team is
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  Speaker 1: particularly going to be competitive in the first half down
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  Speaker 1: to zero going back at home. Isn't that amazing how
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  Speaker 1: these trends pop up and sort of become really become
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  Speaker 1: commonplace amongst a much larger group beyond the professional betting community,
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  Speaker 1: like that first half bat like, I've only been thinking
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  Speaker 1: about first half. Like you mentioned, you know, pick tonight
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  Speaker 1: or pick them for tomorrow night. I'm planning on betting
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  Speaker 1: the calves that pick tomorrow night, even though there's not
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  Speaker 1: supposedly the value on them. Right, you would think you'd
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  Speaker 1: begin at least two points in a game where there
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  Speaker 1: are four and a half five point underdog. You would
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  Speaker 1: think that you should be getting a couple of points
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  Speaker 1: in this one. No one's ever, no one's ever accused
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  Speaker 1: me of being a value better. You just look for
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  Speaker 1: the winner, whether this value or not. I play as
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  Speaker 1: we've said, the right side is the winning side. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: sir god, we haven't done a scootism or a millionism
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  Speaker 1: in a while. No, we're just you know, the summer,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting lazy. Seriously, so true, all right, so you
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  Speaker 1: need the Warriors to win the series and the rest
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  Speaker 1: of and the rest of the like whatever happens, Like
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  Speaker 1: does it matter to you if they win in four?
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  Speaker 1: Does it matter to you if they win in five?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Where is your liability? And that? In that respect, Well,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see him stretch it out only from
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: a handle and a win perspective. The more games, the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: more action. I mean, once this is over and the
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and the Stanley Cup is over, then we just have
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to kind of fade baseball the rest of the summer,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: which could be a real grind uh no offense. I mean,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I love baseball, but it's hard to win and so
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: uh so these games draw a lot of action. So
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: if we can stretch it out just you know, six
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: or seven games, that'd be great from the sports book
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: point of view, as as long as we don't get
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: killed on each of those games. Do you think you're
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: going to get a lot of World Cup action? I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: do now. I mean I would have loved it if
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the time was better, meaning that the games were being
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: played at a time in Vegas where it's kind of
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: more conducive to the betting. Uh, some of these games
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: are going to be starting three o'clock in the morning,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: five o'clock in the morning Vegas time. So but but
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the World Cup, the last few that we've had have
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: gotten bigger and bigger. And now with the you know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the mobile piece of it, the the mobile app, it's
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: going to make it a lot easier for people to
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: be sitting at home making those bets, making those in
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: progress bets. Well, this will be the biggest handle Nevada
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: has had on the World Cup. I guarantee it, because
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: there's everyone has more operators, have the mobile app now
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and even though the time is kind of weird for
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: us here, um, what we'll do a tremendous amount of action.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. We had Action Network dot Com
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I already have a massive amount of content for World Cup.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Go check it out, figure out who you should bet on,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: figure out where the value is. You do not have
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to be rooting for the US A U S fan
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to get involved in the World Cup and have a
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: little fun with it. Go to Action Network dot Com.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Also go to UH the buffet with chat and Scooch
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: page on iTunes and rate review, unsubscribe, resubscribe. Um, do
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: all those things to the podcast so we can continue
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to rise up the rankings. Scooch, guess what time it is?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Is it time to talk about the Hall of Fame?
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Living in the Hall of Fame. Let's
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: hear those first bars. So here are some suggestions you
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and I are going to vote. I think we've got
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: enough for a first and a second class right now.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: This is a suggestion from a listener. Um Eric Biggio,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Eric Biggio, b I G g O. You do absolutely
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: and him? Well, wow, great? Um his suggestions. Jimmy the Greek,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I like it. He's a no brainer. I say we
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: get five in the first class. Jimmy the Greek. Bob Martin,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: also no brainer. Lefty Rosenthal, Yeah, also a no brainer. Um,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Ron Saco, I don't know who Ron Sacco is. I
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: have to confess I'm not familiar. If you don't know
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: him and I don't know him, he's not in the
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: first ballot, might not he might not even be in
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the second class. Um. Bob Vogaris, I said, yes, you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: don't know bab Garris who Scooch say again, Harla Bob
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Haral is like Haralabos Harala Bos, like the most famous
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: NBA better in history. Does he have a pseudonym? Bob
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Vogaris gonna live in Vegas? Like he was a guy
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: who started making bank on like NBA halftimes and totals
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: years ago, so much so that you guys had to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: change your formula. Well, I know I know him, not
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: his name. I know the people that were betting on
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: his behalf. All right, well, he's getting in even though
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you don't know him. I'm going to send you a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: story that we did about him back when I was
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: at ESPN the magazine. Um, Zach Clark, who's that Clark?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought you were going to throw
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: another one at me. Allan Boston, I like that. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: feel like Boston might be the second class. I've got
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: an idea for the second class. Um uh, Alan, go ahead.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you don't think Billy Walters should
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: be in the first class, Dude, I haven't gotten there yet. Oh,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: is there there's more? I thought you said he had
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: five you know, I think there should be five in
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the first class. Okay, all right, think Allen Dakinson. Okay,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Billy Walters Man Binker, Sam Brown. These were from Eric
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Sam Brown. I like Sam Brown. Who's brown? Sam Brown
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: was one of the originals from the sixties, seventies, eighties,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: even even going into the nineties. He he was like
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and he he passed away just before we got into
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the mobile betting. But when when we went to the pagers, uh,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: he would bet from home using a pager system and
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: because he couldn't make it into the casino anymore. But
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: he was a he was a mover. I mean when
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: he bet lines moved. Yeah, I like that, all right.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I think we got some consensus on and things here.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: But hold on Phil Nicholson. Oh that that's a little dangerous.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that one. It's dangerous to put
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Phil Nicholson in a in a fake hall. It same
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: as controversy. It's controversial. Is it dangerous to say his
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: name out loud? Is he like Volde Wort? I don't understand, Like, well,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I just don't know that the reason firsthand. I mean,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I hear he's an epic gamblers are That's all you
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: need to know. So all we're doing now is just
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: putting epic gamblers in or just It's well known that
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: he likes to bet on sports. We've written stories about
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: how much he likes to bet on sports. I don't
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: think you know we're gonna libel somebody by saying PHILM.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Nicholson likes to bet on sports. He should so he
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: should be in the Sports Betting Hall of Fame. Yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I think so. I'd vote for him if it was
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a secret ballot about that. Oh my god, you're the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: fucking worst, fucking suit. Here's another one for you, Pete Rose.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Well you've already went down that road with Phil Nicholson
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and why not? How about how about Arnold Rothstein and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: in the nineteen Oh my god, you are seriously comparing
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: like Bill Nicholson to Arnold Rothstein? And when did you
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: become like so corporate and clean like Phil Nicholson is
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: never been busted for anything, well kind of was busted.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Everybody got out, all right, hold on, we're going back
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to that. P Rose is in. It's a no brainer.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Here's the last entry that that Grennell sent me. Grnell
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: sent me a bunch of the best entries. Uh, Joe
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Lupo should be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Can
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: make an Alan also Wow. I love that. Uh, Alan,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: You can make an argument for Alan Boston, although he
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: sounds like too much of a curmudgeon to show up
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: to the ceremony. Yeah, Alan Boston give an epic Sports
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Betting Hall of Fame speech. It would it would, it
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: might be might be the longest, it would be long
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: for and it had wards like perspicacious. He'd be mad
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: if he was not a first ballot or though you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: might not show up if he's not a first ballot.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Should get him on talk about this if he returned.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I tried to get him on the podcast during March
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Madness and like I texted him, He's like And a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: week later he's like, I don't do text just call me.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: And I immediately texted him back and like, I said,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: well just come on today. Never heard back. Wow, I
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: know you're holding your phone. I just texted you, right,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I know. Uh, here's my choices. I think we can
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: go big in the first class and then the second
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: class is a little smaller. But here's my choices. Jimmy
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the Greek, Bob Martin, Lefty Rosenthal, Uh, Billy Walters, Sam Brown,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that is my first class. I think you would not
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: have a problem with anybody if if releasing that first class,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: what about Lem Banker? I'm on the close. So when
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: you were talking Sam Brown and Lenn Banker, they're like
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: one and one. Lamb was probably a little bit more
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: well known, but that was by design. I mean, he
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: wanted to be out there. He wanted people to know
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: his name, Sam Brown did. He didn't care if anyone
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: knew his name. He was all about making bets and
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: making money, all right. Then I am going with Lem
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Banker too. So it's the sixth Jimmy the Greek, Bob Martin,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Lefty Rosenthal. Um, by the way, we should explain, Like
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Jimmy the Greek, obviously everybody knows um, Bob Martin one
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of the original bookmakers. Like he was making lines as
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a bookmaker in Minneapolis that everybody in the country was following.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Then he moved to Vegas and like was one of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the original bookmakers and sort of a small shop in
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Vegas and and really set the tone for what Vegas
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: became as a as a epicenter for sports betting. Um,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Lefty Rosenthal, obviously is that his name or is that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the name in the movie. No, it's Frank. Frank Rosenthal's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: name Banker. So explain to Frank Rosenthal was because people
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: will get a kick out of this. You've got lineage there. Yeah,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: So he was. He was a legendary Chicago UH kind
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: of bookmaker, oddsmaker, sports gambler that had connections to a
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: lot of the Chicago Mob. So they sent him to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Vegas basically the UH to help, you know, set up
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: these these sports books that Chica. The Startus Hotel had
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a kind of an affiliation to the Chicago Mob as well,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: so they sent him out there to essentially run the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: whole property and look out for their interests back there. UH.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: And then he couldn't get gaming license, so he had
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: to operate under you know, the title of entertainment director
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and food and beverage director and all these things. But
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: he was, he was the guy. He ran the Startus
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: for many years, and it was the Startus was one
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of the first casinos to actually have a racing sports
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: book in the property. And I think it was back
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: in four and it was by far the biggest and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the best for probably I don't know, thirty years, at
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: least twenty five years until someone wrote a book about
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: it and sort of ended all that. Do you really
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: did the death of our Las Vegas. Yeah, but but
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: ultimately I ended up running that that sports book. So
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: there is a there is a lineage there, and you
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: know he did have because I've seen it. There was
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a tunnel that went from the executive office up on
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the second floor of the Stardust, and the tunnel went
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: there was a staircase that went downstairs underneath the property
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and had an entrance out onto the street, out onto
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the strip. And the logic behind that was that in
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: case he got rated or maybe another mob Bob group
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: was going to come after him, he could make a
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: quick getaway. But we are that whole thing was filled
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: up with cement very early on, right after he left.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's great. I love the idea of him
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: like he's running under the tunnel and like everyone's coming
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: in and he's running underneath them in the opposite direction.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: It just hops into the street. Some caddie pulls up
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and he's gone. That's about it. I mean, it's stuff
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you see in kind of movies, but that's really what
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: what they did. I mean, it was kind of a
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: very dangerous world they lived and back then, and you know,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of treachery going on, and you
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: didn't know who was coming at you and when, so
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: they had those kind of safeguards. Well. Also just it
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: was a movie like this was the guy that was
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: portrayed by Robert de Niro in the movie Casino exactly,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: so uh and I think his name was like Ace something,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Ace Rothstein was his name was. And they actually filmed that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: So I was at the Stardust when they were filming
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: that at the Riviera Hotel, which was right across the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: street from the Stardust, so you know, from time to
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: time they were shooting there. For almost a month, I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: just walk across the street watching film a scene, come back,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: come back to work. And it was ironic that they
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: were using the Riviera across the street to replicate what
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: was the Stardust, although they were using another assumed name
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: in the movie as well. When I was working on
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the odds Um, the book that you wrote about sports
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: bedders and the death of their Las Vegas through the
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: eyes of the Startus bookmakers, Um, I would always stay
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: at the start Dust, like I'd be there for like
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: ten nights in a row. My last trip um was
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: during the n C Double a tournament in two thousand
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm at the startust my last night, I stayed
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: up all night. I just like I couldn't sleep. I
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: was a nervous wreck. Like I was done reporting the book.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I had to go figure out what the funk I
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: was gonna write, like all this kind of stuff and
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: m and I stayed up all night reading Casino. Worst
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: mistake I could have made, because I'm reading this book
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: like I will never write anything this good about like this,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: about this culture, and I'm like, what am I going
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: to do? I that was I did not sleep for
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: like two days. I could imagine that. That's like, yeah,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I can't even make an analogy, but uh, I mean
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: talk about ruining your confidence. Let me just start with
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: uh one of the best books ever written and in uh,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that'll that'll give you some drive to put something together. Huh. Well,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: when you're making the Hall of Fame, you want to
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. You know what I'm saying.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: That's true when I read that. You know, there was
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: some stuff I was reading in Casino. I read it too.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I think after the movie came out. I saw the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: movie first, but there was a lot of people in
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that book that I actually knew. So I was so
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: as I'm reading it and they're talking about people that
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I've met and know pretty well, it was kind of
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: like a little bit of a jarring effect for me,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, that's awesome. I mean, I
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: mean a couple of odds makers that that Lefty knew
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: real well that I had still used as as some
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: of our odds makers at the start US back in
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the mid nineties. Uh, you know, so it's really kind
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: of cool. That is awesome. Alright, So I think we
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: have our first class. I'm not going to announce our
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: second class yet. Um, I think we have our first class.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Were to um continue Jimmy the Greek, Bob Martin, Lefty Rosenthal, Um,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Billy Walters, Lem Banker, Sam Brown. So at the end,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Billy Walters, Lem Baker, Sam Brown almost like three legendary
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: betters who represent three entirely different generations. Like Sam Brown,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: as you said, came on that everything from the beginning
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: of time, didn't want anyone to know who he is. Um.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Then you move into Lem Baker, who was a big
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: better had a lot of great strategies, but wanted people
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to know who he was. Then you get into Billy,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: who is like the most famous better in the history
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: of the world, from when it comes to sports, um
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and like that's a nice little narrative there, from you know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the beginning of time to current day. Absolutely, and then
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: you know Lefty, who you know obviously he needs to
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: know no more kind of introductions. I think we nailed
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it there. I think we got a set. When we
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: got a second class Bruin like a good second class,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: said about that next week. All right, all right, folks, listen.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: If you disagree with our first class, if you have
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: more suggestions for the second class, go to the buffet
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: iTunes page. Put it in the reviews. We will read them.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Obviously we did because we talked about a couple of
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: them here. Um rate review, unsubscribe, re subscribe. Be a
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: friend of the podcast. Scooch thanks for coming on, man,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Hey, Chat, thanks for having me on
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the Scooch and Chat show. I was gonna say, thanks
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: for coming on your own podcast. Yeah, don't forget. Coming
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: up next, coming up with Lex North. Lauren Joffe is
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: uh going to file a report from her day in
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Delaware traversing the postage stamp of a state that nobody
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: talks about except for when they're sports betting. Uh, so
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: she can tell us what it was like there next
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: up on the buffet reporting from Delaware. I think I'm
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: assuming because I know she's hung hover and so she
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have left Delaware in a particular state. Lauren Joffey,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: who was on the scene yesterday when Delaware h allowed
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: sports betting for the first time. We're now spelling sharp
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: c A r any y because John Carney, the governor
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: of Delaware, chose the Phillies a plus two hundred to
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: win last night. That was the first bet made in Delaware,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and he was on it. Joffy, Yeah, everything about Delaware.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Where are you well, I am sitting in the hotel. Wow,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: we put you up in a hotel for this, I know, right,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I mean there was I mean I was I was
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: going to hit all three because you know, they didn't
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: actually have a chance to go to the third one. Um,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: But but I made it to the two. I mean
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: there sure, as small as Delaware is, things aren't exactly
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: right there, so you know, it was a bit of
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a bit of a drive. Um. But I don't know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at a race track, which is pretty cool. No,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I'm serious. I've never seen and I've never really seen
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: a NASCAR track, so but that's what I have. That's
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: my view. Um, you must be in Dover. Yes, I
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: am in Dover. This was the second stop. Um, so
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I missed the governor who was I guess he was here,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Um at this casino when he put his bed in. Um.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I was at the the other, the other one, the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: in Wilmington's um for the opening, and um, it was
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you know, it was exciting. They were doing the T
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: minus ten, T minus five, you know, counting it down
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: until the best until it opened. Um. I think there
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: was more media there than there were bettors. Um. And
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: there was there was a line which less for about
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: half an hour and then that was kind of it. Um,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: but you know, it was exciting. So there were more
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: media than betters described to me. Describe to me what
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the betters look like. Um, well, there was there was
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: your there weren't a lot of there were some young people. Um,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of um, you know, you know
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: who's in who's in a casino and you know Tuesday
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: morning in Delaware, I mean that was there were a
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: lot of those people. I think they were in there
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: for the excitement. I don't necessarily think they were betting
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: in anything. Um, but I mean there were people that
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: were betting. Somebody asked me. He kind of came by with, so,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: what do you think of the Cleveland game? And you know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: it's like, this is your first time betting. I mean,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you know people no one really knew. I don't think
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: what to expect. Um. And there's people going around asking
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: anyone if they were first time better you know that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: they would help him out. Um. It was you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: it was interesting. So so we'll get to the fact
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: you're hungover. Yeah, but but what was the first bet
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: you made? Um? I actually I didn't bet to like
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: him down here, um because this only because I didn't
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: want to have to make a bet and have to
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: go back there and cash it. UM. So I bet
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I don't. I've did a bunch and I'm a green
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: dut you now. I bet the under in the Philly
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Chicago game. UM. I bet the dream money line thanks
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: to that labs, UM, and it was UM and the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: met under. You bet the w n B A Sorry
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: sorry but yeah, I bet w Yeah. I just want
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to be clear like people people will be thinking, like, wait,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: what what Bet involved himlaj one that she was able
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: to to sort of reverse time and go back in
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: that finals using bet labs. No, no, okay, right, and
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: mind you like, I didn't see w n B at
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the at the at the other just you know, so
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: when I got here and I sawed it on board,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I was very excited. Um, I said. When I went
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to the counter and I said, you know, I'd like
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the dream money line, and he looked at me and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: he kind of looked, you know, like you know what
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I was talking about, like, oh, w n B A.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: And he said, I don't really follow w n B
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: A and I was like, yeah, I need to do.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I but it don't you know what, got a really
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: aggressive slack channel for the w n B A. And
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna follow whatever they're doing. And I'm
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: thinking I'm gonna make some money and look lo and behold,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Lauren Joffy found Green Dot City. I did it was
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: it was fantastic. The problem with at Least last night
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: is the book closed at ten, so I had to
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: stay here technically because I couldn't have you know, I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: could have sent it in. I guess but I couldn't
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: have cashed it in last night. Well that's like, why
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: would you close the sports book before something closed? They
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: can't cash your bet. Yeah, I don't know. The guy,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I kind of says like, yeah, we're
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: doing this for the first you know, for the first
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: little bit, and I don't know what little bit means. Um.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, the bar in there culls it eleven. So
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: it's not quite it's not quite the same as as Vegas's.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll say that. You mean, when you're in
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Delaware Wilmington's at the race track. It's just not the
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: same as when you're like at the Bellaggio. I keep
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: it that. I know I was. It was kind of shocking.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Um no, but really yeah, no, I mean, and there's
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: no real place in the book to watch the games. Um.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: They had you know, the big TVs up there, but
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: it was all horse racing, even though there was you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: a ton of mlbon um. So you know, it wasn't
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: It wasn't the greatest place to watch the games either,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: But you know that's I guess they'll figure it out.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe I did see uh some of the recaps on
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: sports Center last night and I was disappointed that they
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: had to design it and make it look so much
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: like a typical sports book. Yeah. Yeah, it's literally I mean,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: like you know, they have a little the desks set
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: up with the terminal, you know, the TVs. Um. I
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: mean it really was. It didn't It wasn't modern at all. Um.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I guess it's the same book they've
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: been using just for the horse racing, right they didn't
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: build the new book. Um. But yeah, I mean I guess,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I mean maybe they just it was so if you
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to I mean, I don't know. Um,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it could be the happening place to watch. Honestly, it
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: could be. Like in all seriousness, it's a tiny little
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: state and it's close enough to a lot of things
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: that people would go there and spend a weekend around
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: big events. It's like, you don't want to travel all
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the way to Vegas. They have a huge opportunity here
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: to carve out a piece of the market for that
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: filly area for Baltimore. Um, for people who like if
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you want to spend two hours getting out of town
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: and you do that for a day and then you
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: go to the beach in Delaware, like they can nail this.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: They really could, and I mean because you know, it's
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: it's a nice to you know, Um, it's it's it's
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: relatively I mean it's not big, but it's you know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: it's not tiny at all. Um. But yeah, they could
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: really honestly, they could really have an amazing opportunity here. Um,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and maybe they will. Maybe they wanted to see how
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: things were gonna go. I mean I don't know, Um,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: but yeah, the book it's just not it's it's not
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: somewhere you go to. I mean watching a game and
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: there is just not it's just not what you just
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I mean you can, I guess, but it's it's you know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: TV doesn't face the bar, so you know, it's but
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: it could be. There's there's you know it could be
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know football season. Do you
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: think by football season it will be better? I mean
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I would hope so, But I mean I'm trying to think.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, they would have to really redesign the book.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: There's it's not big enough really, Um. You have to
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: take out all the little desks, um, which they could do, um,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: but I mean they could have to do a lot
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: of resigning. Um. But you know, it really could be
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: very fun place. And I mean it's kind of it's
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: in the middle of Delaware, so yeah, like you said,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: like I came in from d C. There's a lot
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: of you know, there's people I met people last night.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: There were from from Philly. Um, there's even a cope
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: people from New Jersey. So you know it's you skip
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the Atlantic city to come down here. Um, just for
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: the gambling. So you know it could be it could
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: be huge. It's gotta you know, figure it out. So
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: let me transition here for a second. Uh, why did
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you get so drunk last night? I mean, don't I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: didn't necessarily get drunk. I just was drinking drinking drinks
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: that I'm gonna go ahead and assume we're not the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: highest quality alcohol. So I just you know, the headache
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: hit me this morning. Here's it's like when last we
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: left Lauren dropping on the podcast. Um, you were a
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: hate betting to general it living with your parents, who
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: was convincing herself. Uh, she was very funny while while
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: alone in your bedroom. So how are things progressing? Um?
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: And I think I think let me just add since
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: then we can add, um, you've become addicted to both
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: bet Labs and the side Action channel in Slack at
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: the Action Network, and I might add the general show
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: is Slack at the Action Network. Yes, I'm waiting to
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: get blacklisted from Slack. Um they're gonna kick me out soon.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I serious. I'm like this is like my own person,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: a little Twitter inside inside Slack. Um. Yeah, that labs.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I'm totally completely obsessed with. Um, it's keep me up
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: at night. Um progressing. I mean, I'm in Delaware, So
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: there you go. That's true. You left the house. I did.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I left the house. Um, came all the way to Delaware. Um.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: You know. Now we're making moves at you know, at
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: the Jockey House. Lauren's going places. Um, she's just not
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: a shware I go places. So you known't mean explain
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: to me what that means. I means I have to.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: It means I have to pull the trigger on a
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: place to move that. That's what that really means. I
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: just can't feel like me make up my mind. It's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: it's it's that honestly keeps me at the night. I
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: just can't make up my mind. I'm very indecisive. So
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: what were the choices again? Chicago l or l A
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: possibly New York. I'll throw that in there. But those
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: three places, um, for lots of reasons. LA would be
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the easiest, just because all my us is there. Yeah, um,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Chicago because I've always wanted to not live I mean
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I've lived in l A all my life for the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: most part, so I kind of wanted to do. I
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: want to I want to have a winter, like a
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: real winter. Um, and I've been told Chicago has those.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: So it's it's the rumor around town. It is the
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: rumor around town. I want to know what it feels
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: like to be miserably holed up in my house. It's
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: it's going so bad. That's to me sounds kind of amazing.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. As a Chicago in and
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: then someone who has spent his entire adult life living
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: on East Coast, those days when like you know it's
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: gonna be you're gonna be snow bound, are really the best,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Like you sort of just you you you hear the
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: apocalyptic storm is coming in. You're watching your local weather guy.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: They're getting all amped like they're going on seven, like
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: it's a hostage crisis, and they're coming in like they're unshaven,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: and their ties are undone live for this moment and
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: like you are getting up to the meeting radar on
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: where the storm is. You are like schools are closing
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: and you are like there's no water on the shelves
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: at the grocery store. You are hunkering down. Those are
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: the They are amazing. I love those days. There is
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: nothing more disappointing when like it starts and it's nothing
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: and like it's It's the most anticlimactic thing in the world.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: It's so upsetting because like you've sort of mentally got
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: yourself in a place where I'm not leaving the house.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a little bit of work and I'm
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: gonna say I'm working from home, but really I'm just
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: screwing around all day and all of a sudden, like
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: you have no excuse not to get out. Um, it's amazing.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Here's the thing about that. That
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: is that is a feeling that is fleeting. It lasts
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: for maybe you know, two hours, and then you're like,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: fucking A, I gotta get out of this crap. I
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: gotta find someone to dig out of this crap. I'm
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: going to be cold and uncomfortable for six months find
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: a snow vacation. I mean, mind you, I mean it's
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: snowed since since I've been here, it has snowed. I mean,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and you know, I remember I took a picture of
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: my car and I was like, oh my god, there's
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: no on it. And you know, I've won laughed at
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: me and they're like, no, that's like a dusting. And
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: then it's like really snowed. Um. And really we couldn't
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: get out of like the driveway, which didn't really bother
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: me since I wasn't going anywhere, um um. But but
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I loved it. There was I mean, there wasn't really
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: a downside. It was pretty and the dogs loved the
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: play in it. And you know, I had the excuse
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: this time. I had the excuse from not going out anywhere,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: which was really the best. The best thing. You know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: sunny when you're in l A, you have no excuse.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: You know, sunny outside everyone since why don't you go outside?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah. One of my kids or one
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: of my kids has a T shirt that says, uh,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I've been outside. I didn't like the graphics. That is
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: kind of a hilarious shirt. Um that's his perspective life outside. Yes,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: that's my my nephew as well, same exact thing. She's
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: not playing his oculus or playing on or walking YouTube videos,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: then I don't know what he's doing. I would be
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: in favor. I'm in favor of you moving to New York. Well,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. Um, I'm going to come up there,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: and I have been saying that forever. Um, yeah, but
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: you're gonna come up here. You're the one who was
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: like when we had our big Action Network content summit
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: and there was no mistaking what day it was, Like
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: it was so no, I swear it was so on
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: the on ap and like Scott like, I'm like, where's
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Joffe And Scott's like, oh yeah, she thought it was
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: the twenty six. I swear to you, I swear I
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: thought it was. I'm not even lying about that. I
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: swear I did. And it just yeah, I know I was.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I was all hyped up to that very sad I
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: missed it. I'll get the next one. Hopefully we'll do
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: another one before football season. Speaking of football season, UM,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: we'll also get you back down to Delaware, which is
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: your new favorite place, so you can report on whether
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: or not they have improved their offerings before football season. Yeah, absolutely,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: um yeah, because right now, all all you can really
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: do is is, you know, they don't have any anything
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: other than you know, Baseball, Ah, super Bowl and that's
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: about it. Um. So yeah, I imagine they'll they'll step
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: it up. I think if I'm not mistaken, it's there.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: It's all part of William Hill um so. I And
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: they might have mobile bedding soon as well. So you know,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: things are things could happen. They just gotta you know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: step it up. Well, listen, I'm looking forward to your report. Uh.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: You know we're going to post on Action Network dot com. Uh,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it will be full of hilarity and no pressure.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen you. I haven't seen you in slack
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: all morning, so I'm assuming like you're you're writing away
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: like I can't wait to see it. That's what I've
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: been doing, or you're just in recovery. A little bit
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: of both, a little bit of both. Um, but yes,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I'm I am writing, so yes, that will be I'm
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: gonna do that before I get out of here. So
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: um that's the plan, all right, Jeffy, thank you for
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: taking time out from the deadline pressure I'm putting on
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: you to come and give us a report. You're very welcome.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you survived. Thank you so much. I'm glad
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I did too. All Right, we'll talk to you later. Okay,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: it never