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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman & Lindahl 3-24-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald is our Broncos insider Altitude Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 1: two five Pro Football.
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  Speaker 2: The insider I've covered while.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwall his appearances are always must listen radio. We
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  Speaker 1: learn a lot. Brought to you by the International Brotherhood
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  Speaker 1: of Electrical Workers. Start with a job and with the career.
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  Speaker 1: IVW Local sixty eight. It's Leggy wef yeh yeh yeh
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  Speaker 1: on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five. Yeah, Jeff Blagwold
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  Speaker 1: time here on a lovely Monday afternoon. Jeff Legwald, as
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  Speaker 1: always his appearances are must listen radio. He informs us
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  Speaker 1: of what is going on with the Broncos and around
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. Brought to you by the International Brotherhood of
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  Speaker 1: Electrical Workers IBW Local sixty eight. Start with a job
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  Speaker 1: and end with a career. Leggie. We are one month
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  Speaker 1: out officially today from the NFL Draft. It's April twenty
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  Speaker 1: fourth is round one. Today is the twenty fourth of March.
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  Speaker 1: One of the Broncos need to accomplish in the in
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  Speaker 1: the next four weeks. Here what what are the internal
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  Speaker 1: What do you think the spiciest internal debates are right
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  Speaker 1: now down at the facility?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean they're probably all spicy at this point.
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  Speaker 3: This is where they they get everybody's opinion right now.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, like all teams, they're making the pro
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  Speaker 3: day circuit. I mean, cam Ward's Pro day was today,
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  Speaker 3: so uh, you know they've got people out on the
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  Speaker 3: pro day circuit. And this is when you would do
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  Speaker 3: some Top thirty visits in your facility too, So you're
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  Speaker 3: you're dialing in if you're the team, you're dialing in
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  Speaker 3: on the people you're really intrigued by, or the people
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  Speaker 3: you think you need one or two more nuggets of information,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to make that decision.
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  Speaker 1: Leggy, it's a little inside baseball, but you know you've
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  Speaker 1: watched a couple of these drafts with this regime. Now
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  Speaker 1: currently what what is the dynamic ownership Sean Payton, George Peyton,
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  Speaker 1: scouting department and everything else? Like who who gets lead
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  Speaker 1: billing in these discussions? Who has finals? Say? What have
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  Speaker 1: you been able to glean from how this group makes
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  Speaker 1: these choices?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they're like a lot of teams.
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  Speaker 3: The head coach is going to have an awful lot
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  Speaker 3: to say about what the framework is for what kind
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  Speaker 3: of player he wants. Now, the thing that's intriguing here
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  Speaker 3: or a little different these days. Is Sean Payton definitely
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  Speaker 3: works off a Bill Parcells model because that's his mentor
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  Speaker 3: in many ways and coaching and Bill Parcells had a
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  Speaker 3: very definitive idea of what you know, height, weight, size,
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  Speaker 3: speed of prospects at every position should be. There was
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  Speaker 3: a very definitive framework of what they wanted at each spot.
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  Speaker 3: And I think they are a little more defined in
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  Speaker 3: that way with Sean Payton running the show. I think
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  Speaker 3: George Peyton, the GM has worked with so many people
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  Speaker 3: through the years, and you know, George came up from scouting,
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  Speaker 3: all the way through scouting, you know, from the you know,
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  Speaker 3: from the lowest rung of the ladder to be in
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  Speaker 3: a GM.
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  Speaker 2: So those kinds of guys can work with anybody.
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  Speaker 3: They're very good at adjusting, you know, what the scouting
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  Speaker 3: staff needs to find for the for the coaching staff.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's a big thing too.
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  Speaker 3: And they make they make makeup a big part of
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  Speaker 3: the equation everybody does, but it's a really big part
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  Speaker 3: of the equation here. I think they would they would
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  Speaker 3: lean harder toward a player with the kind of attitude
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  Speaker 3: and and just sort of demeanor they want if the
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  Speaker 3: athleticism is close, whereas some teams lean hard into the
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  Speaker 3: athleticism and say we'll fit a guy.
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  Speaker 4: In Leggy, have the positions, they'll be interested in which
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  Speaker 4: one is the thinnest. Where you may say, hey, pick early,
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  Speaker 4: because once the top is gone, there's not a lot left.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, any I think in some ways, you know, if
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  Speaker 3: they were interested in a corner who could contribute in
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  Speaker 3: some way in the nickel or something, or some of
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  Speaker 3: the edge players, if they wanted another edge player, you know,
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  Speaker 3: depending on what the future of say Benito is here
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  Speaker 3: or any of that. I think those two spots you
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  Speaker 3: better go for the gold early and always offensive tackle.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's a pretty good class. But if you
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  Speaker 3: want the guys who can really really play for a
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  Speaker 3: long time, those are at the top.
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  Speaker 2: Of the board.
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  Speaker 1: Leggie, as you have been diving into it, where are
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  Speaker 1: you coming down on Luther Burden, the third, the wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver out of Missouri. He's phenomenal prospect, but like you
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  Speaker 1: talked about before, a profile, he doesn't seem to fit
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  Speaker 1: the profile of a Sean Payton wide receiver.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's got a little size and I think that
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  Speaker 3: that makes him sort of. You know, I think when
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  Speaker 3: you're looking at wide receivers for these guys, you want
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  Speaker 3: to start with the big the big guys and work
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  Speaker 3: back from there. But you know, I like him as
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  Speaker 3: a player. I've talked to some you know, scouts who
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  Speaker 3: really really like him. So the wide receiver over the years,
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  Speaker 3: especially over the last ten to fifteen years of this, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I get more divergent opinions from the evaluators on wide
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  Speaker 3: receivers than I do.
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  Speaker 2: At any other position.
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  Speaker 3: Like you'll talk to one scout and they'll love three,
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  Speaker 3: and then you'll talk to somebody else and they can't
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  Speaker 3: stand those three.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just the weirdest thing ever.
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  Speaker 3: But I think because so many people throw the ball
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  Speaker 3: in college football now that that is perennially one of
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  Speaker 3: the positions where you're going to be able to find
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  Speaker 3: whatever you're looking for in a productive player.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think of the tight end position? Again,
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  Speaker 4: you've talked about how deep it is, but now as
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  Speaker 4: you start to do the top one hundred, how many
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  Speaker 4: guys are you stacking in the middle rounds?
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  Speaker 2: What would be give me.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of guys that might be good targets for
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  Speaker 4: the Broncos if they don't want to use their first
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  Speaker 4: or second round pick on a tight end.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, le Broncos spend an awful lot of
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  Speaker 3: time talking about that. You know, they want the guy
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  Speaker 3: who can become a pretty good blocker as well as
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  Speaker 3: being a receiver. And I think the Ingram signing, at
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  Speaker 3: least in the next couple of years would point them
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  Speaker 3: toward sort of a pretty good receiver who could be
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  Speaker 3: you know, a quality blocker in the run game as well.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, to me, that's that's sort of like
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  Speaker 3: a guy like Mason Taylor from LSU as a player,
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  Speaker 3: I'd look at. Think the local young guy Ferguson, Terrence
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  Speaker 3: Ferguson I really like as a prospect.
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  Speaker 2: I think those are two names I keep an eye on.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, day two, day two especially probably and
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  Speaker 3: then you know that I think the Notre Dame, the
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  Speaker 3: young guy from Notre Dame, Mitchell Evans, I think has
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  Speaker 3: got a good look about him. Maybe that's a late
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  Speaker 3: day two, day three pick, dependent who you talk to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good teams get starters at those spots. Jeff Legwall
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  Speaker 1: of ESPN is with us. We're a month away from
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  Speaker 1: the NFL draft. Leggie brought to you by the International
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  Speaker 1: Brotherhood of Electrical Workers IBW Local sixty eight. Start with
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  Speaker 1: a job and with a career, LEGGI, let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback carousel. Aaron Rodgers technically is not a Steeler yet,
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  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson technically is not any team as of yet.
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  Speaker 1: And how is that all going to impact what happens
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  Speaker 1: with cam Ward, what happens with Shador Sanders. Give us
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  Speaker 1: the best Jeff Legwalled forecast that you can when the
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  Speaker 1: dust finally settles on where these quarterbacks will all be.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think the Rogers things intriguing.
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  Speaker 3: I can't understand how anyone in the NFL could have
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  Speaker 3: watched how that unfolded in New York and then say,
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  Speaker 3: let's hurry up and get that guy in this building.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, it just proves the supply of quarterbacks
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  Speaker 3: will never meet the demand. So I think most people
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  Speaker 3: feel like the Steelers because of the way they're built internally,
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  Speaker 3: resemble green Bay the most of what's out there, you know,
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  Speaker 3: family ownership. You know, green Bay is sort of publicly owned,
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  Speaker 3: but it's run like a family ownership team, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And there's been a lot of talk about is that
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  Speaker 3: the you know, it's ironic that he's looking for what
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  Speaker 3: he had in Green Bay now, but that he's.
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  Speaker 2: Looking for a situation like that.
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  Speaker 3: And I think players all over the league respect Tomlin,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and how he those things and how he
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  Speaker 3: he you know, provides this umbrella for players that you know,
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  Speaker 3: he never makes a public mistake really with players, and
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  Speaker 3: I think players respect that. And I think people in
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  Speaker 3: the league think that's the fit for Rogers, even in
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  Speaker 3: the short term, because it is short term, you're not
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  Speaker 3: so you don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: Give up too much to do it. But I think
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  Speaker 2: most people feel like he will end up in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they see a lot of folks I
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  Speaker 3: know in the league don't see a Brian day Ball
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  Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers really gelling. A day Ball runs really hot,
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  Speaker 3: he's fiery, you know, so maybe a Giants you know
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  Speaker 3: that that isn't what's going to happen. But again, I
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  Speaker 3: think most people think Pittsburgh is where he'll land, and
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  Speaker 3: then I think everyone else just falls in after that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, hard for me to believe that the Titans
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  Speaker 3: aren't way cam Ward vigorously were the number one pick.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there were more people at Miami's pro day
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  Speaker 3: from the Titans than in the Titans building you know,
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  Speaker 3: in Nashville today, So they brought everybody to the Miami's
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  Speaker 3: pro day. So that tells you and I would I
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  Speaker 3: would almost bet you know, a lot of money that
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  Speaker 3: they have a private workout with him tomorrow in some fashion,
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  Speaker 3: or at least some kind of private setting with him tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: All right, what about kirk cousins.
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  Speaker 4: News comes today he'll waive his no trade clause once
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  Speaker 4: the draft has been completed. Is he gonna find a
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  Speaker 4: new home or do you think he keeps playing poker
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  Speaker 4: in Atlanta?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, that's such a crazy messed
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  Speaker 3: up thing, you know, with Atlanta giving him the deal
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  Speaker 3: last year and then drafting Pennix and now deciding Penix
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  Speaker 3: is the the guy. You know, the only thing in
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  Speaker 3: the Atlanta's favor and all of this is that Penix
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  Speaker 3: is on a rookie deal, so they do have a
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  Speaker 3: little minor flexibility. But again, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, these
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  Speaker 3: are short term solutions for teams, you know, almost stop
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  Speaker 3: gaps at this point. And I think, you know, if
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  Speaker 3: you're the player. You're just trying to find the best
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  Speaker 3: playing situation because you're not getting some or at least
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't think you're getting some long term commitment from somebody.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, again, I think Rogers and Cousins both.
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  Speaker 3: When I talk to personnel people, it comes with some baggage.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what are you really getting?
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  Speaker 3: You know, they're gonna play as they've played, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: are they gonna lead your team and they're gonna be
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  Speaker 3: good for your franchise? And I think ultimately they they
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  Speaker 3: don't have as many choices as they've probably had hoped
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  Speaker 3: they would.
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  Speaker 1: You're a year off of heavy scouting of JJ McCarthy
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  Speaker 1: going into the draft. Is Minnesota making a wise choice,
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  Speaker 1: given how good their roster currently is, to hand it
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  Speaker 1: over to a dude who has yet to play in
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  Speaker 1: a regular season game, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, Nate, I think that's exactly when you hand it
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  Speaker 3: over to a guy like him when your roster is
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  Speaker 3: really good. You know, I think quarterback prospects regress when
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  Speaker 3: they're asked to do more than they can. And look
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  Speaker 3: at how Caleb Williams played for a franchise that wasn't
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  Speaker 3: ready for him to play in Chicago last year. You
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  Speaker 3: know that offensive line. No rookie quarterbacks should have been
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  Speaker 3: put behind that, you know line that doesn't help you.
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  Speaker 3: If you're gonna play a rookie, you know you should
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  Speaker 3: be able to play him when you have a really
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  Speaker 3: good team.
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  Speaker 2: And I think what helps JJ McCarthy in the scouting.
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  Speaker 3: World is he he played for an NFL like coach
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  Speaker 3: at Michigan and fully understands the sort of playing within
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  Speaker 3: the framework of things, not trying to do too much,
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  Speaker 3: don't be the hero when you know you don't need
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  Speaker 3: to be. And I think everyone respects what Kevin O'Connell
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  Speaker 3: can do with quarterbacks, and I think what he did
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  Speaker 3: with Sam Darnold only helped that reputation immensely. Uh So
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  Speaker 3: I think they'll they'll do right by him, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that could work because of that. And he's a
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  Speaker 3: much better athlete than people have talked about since he's
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  Speaker 3: been out, you know, with the injury, but athletically, he
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  Speaker 3: was one of the best quarterback you know, athlete prospects
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  Speaker 3: coming out.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Legy wasn't a travel.
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  Speaker 2: Which one wow wow, look at that.
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  Speaker 4: So Nate says he doesn't want it called a lot
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  Speaker 4: of my Cushu friends didn't want it called. We had
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people text in saying they didn't want
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  Speaker 4: that call.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah, I don't know. I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you want it called. You want it
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  Speaker 2: called there?
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  Speaker 1: It's just okay. And here's where I come down on this, Leggy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a little surprised by Leggy's answer because usually he's
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  Speaker 4: the stickler for the rules.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want that travel ever called, though,
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  Speaker 1: like you should be able to gather and take two
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  Speaker 1: steps and and take a shot like letter of the law.
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  Speaker 1: How often would we be stopping play to call that travel?
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  Speaker 1: I would, I would, I would hate that and play. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I just I I hate that that became the narrative,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, like you of the teams you saw
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  Speaker 1: last week, of Michigan and BYU who came out of
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  Speaker 1: Denver that are off to the Sweet sixteen, who you
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  Speaker 1: given the best shot to go to an Elite eight?
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  Speaker 1: You got Michigan, who's got to play Auburn now? And
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  Speaker 1: BYU is gonna have their hands full with Natoates and Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I I will say that BYU Alabama, tams Is
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  Speaker 3: gonna gonna be about the most damn entertaining game you
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  Speaker 3: might see anywhere. But I don't know if it's next
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  Speaker 3: year or two years from now, but b Yu is
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  Speaker 3: going to be a problem for people the way they're built,
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  Speaker 3: the way he's I came a or I spoke to
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people that think that coach was a
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  Speaker 3: great find, Like they thought outside the box a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: and they may have beaten everybody around the curve as
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  Speaker 3: to you know, I think ten years from now, a
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  Speaker 3: lot more teams are gonna be structured like how BYU
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  Speaker 3: does things. And you know, maybe people outside this region
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  Speaker 3: don't realize how deep their pockets are. But I liked
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  Speaker 3: them as a team. I like how they're put together.
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  Speaker 3: I like how he coaches it. I think they're tough
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  Speaker 3: in endgame situations, you know, Michigan. It was odd to
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  Speaker 3: me because he's such a dusky may as such a
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  Speaker 3: you know, a tactician that people respect. But when things
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  Speaker 3: get tight, they sort of they sort of go away
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  Speaker 3: from all the things they do well to get leads
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  Speaker 3: or to be in games, So that that'd be the
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  Speaker 3: only reason I would sort of pick at them moving forward,
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  Speaker 3: And they turned the ball over way too much. Michigan
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  Speaker 3: does so. I guess of the teams I saw about
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  Speaker 3: BYU was the sturdiest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, love that team. Love Kevin Young, friend of the program,
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  Speaker 1: and uh yeah, Michigan's gonna have their hands full with
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  Speaker 1: J and I, Broom and Auburn. He's Jeff Legwald everybody.
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  Speaker 1: He was a college hoops reporter last week. Now he's
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  Speaker 1: back on NFL draft duty. We know that he never
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  Speaker 1: actually left though. Leggy, good work man, Thanks Buddy, Thanks Bells.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see it.