Latest / The Regulars / Kirk Herbstreit's Gotta Go, Jayson Tatum Drama & MLB Lockout Is Full Steam Ahead

Transcript

Kirk Herbstreit's Gotta Go, Jayson Tatum Drama & MLB Lockout Is Full Steam Ahead · The Regulars

• 0:00
  Jason Tatum, World Series, Kurt Herbstreit.
• 0:04
  So much to discuss. And quite frankly, late night show, it's going
• 0:09
  to get weird. We're the regulars. You're amongst friends. Grab your drink,
• 0:12
  enjoy your night, and this is going to be a shit show. I haven't even
• 0:16
  started drinking and it's past 8 p.m. This might be the most
• 0:20
  clearheaded I ever am. I hope you guys enjoy it.
• 0:29
  Yeah, I'm gonna talk a little, talk a little more central tonight
• 0:33
  because late night here in Los Angeles, California. By the way, 8 PM
• 0:38
  show. We've never done this this late. I can only imagine how you people on
• 0:41
  the East Coast are feeling right now. Welcome to the show. I don't even know
• 0:43
  if anybody from the East Coast is going to show up. Probably not. This is
• 0:45
  going to— this is probably our worst live show, but I don't care. The ones
• 0:48
  that actually showed up, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for joining us.
• 0:51
  Um, just get into it real quick. The reason why we're going a little late
• 0:55
  tonight is because tonight, um, it is, um, homecoming weekend for UCLA.
• 0:58
  So I went to a UCLA alumni event, uh, where I got to kind
• 1:03
  of hobnob it up with a bunch of, uh, ex-athletes that are doing things in
• 1:06
  the sports world and just the world in general. And, uh, tomorrow for the UCLA
• 1:10
  game, homecoming against Michigan State, uh, of which I will be at.
• 1:13
  Oh, that's right. I will— I will not. Would you like to go? No.
• 1:17
  I can get you a ticket. I know you can. And I actually— I actually
• 1:20
  do want to go, and you have offered. However, The plans I have late
• 1:24
  night mean that I actually have to do nothing else during the day. Otherwise I
• 1:27
  won't make it through. Well, you're the worst. You're the fucking worst. You're a bad
• 1:30
  friend. What are you gonna do? Guys, welcome to the show. And listen, we got
• 1:33
  a lot to talk about, but Tanya, get the energy up. Doesn't mean just because
• 1:36
  it's late night, oh, doesn't mean you get to just be like sultry. I'm just—
• 1:40
  you just opened it by like, I have sexy talk. I have the voice.
• 1:44
  You think I don't? You think I can't do the whole show? I'm like,
• 1:48
  Two for Tuesdays, welcome. We got, we got cinnamon coming to the show. We got
• 1:52
  cinnamon, cinnamon coming on the stage. Don't do that.
• 1:56
  Pour some sugar on me. Yeah, who needs— I'll bring the energy up if this—
• 1:59
  if it'll stop this. All right, do we agree?
• 2:02
  Okay, prove it, prove it, because I will— I will speak like a fucking
• 2:06
  DJ at a strip club for the rest of the show. We're about to talk
• 2:09
  shit about the Patriots. Oh my God, I'm so excited! Talking shit about the Patriots
• 2:13
  is one of my favorite fucking things. But also, we're going to talk about this
• 2:16
  game later, and we're both going to get really mad. Which one? Uh,
• 2:20
  about specifically the Patriots and Yeah. Is this in headlines? This is—
• 2:23
  this is— well, it was last night. I thought— I just think the thing we're
• 2:27
  gonna get mad at is going to be in media quarter. Is it? Yes,
• 2:29
  yes, yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. So this is just—
• 2:33
  we're starting out with just ball. We save the really angry stuff for later in
• 2:37
  the show so people stick around. Um, but yeah, we're gonna
• 2:41
  kick things off with Thursday Night Football because it was a good game. It was
• 2:44
  a sort of a sloppy game, but it was a good game. It was.
• 2:47
  So I feel like it's worth talking about. Do you want to hit our 2
• 2:50
  box or what do you think? I would like to
• 2:55
  hit our 2 box. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
• 2:57
  hold on. I forgot. Keep in mind, Mocha is not here and I'm
• 3:01
  doing this all on my own. We normally just have the guy that just does
• 3:04
  headlines. Headline number 1, Tanya. We had a Thursday
• 3:07
  Night Football game. We did. Between the Bears and the Patriots. 2 good teams.
• 3:11
  It was the Drake Maye-Caleb Williams Bowl.
• 3:15
  Obviously 2 top picks in the draft a
• 3:18
  couple of years ago, 2024. Who's going to be the better one? We always
• 3:22
  want to know. They're both excellent. You know,
• 3:25
  each one has their flaws. But I think that as time has gone
• 3:29
  on, Caleb has really started to pull away from Drake Maye just because
• 3:33
  of the improvements we've seen and somewhat of a regression we've seen up
• 3:37
  and down from Drake. Here's the thing.
• 3:40
  It was a good game. It was like Chicago struck first, Patriots come
• 3:44
  back, ill-timed turnover by Drake
• 3:48
  Maye, which I think that— I mean, I don't know if I did— I text
• 3:51
  you about the, the turnover, the end zone interception? I,
• 3:55
  I put in here that this was Drake Maye's 3rd interception on a pass thrown
• 3:59
  to the end zone this season. No other NFL QB has more than one such
• 4:02
  touched, uh, interception this season. Seems like he's done it 3 times.
• 4:06
  Like, that's We're getting to a point where this is like a,
• 4:09
  like choke in the red, in the red zone situation. Yeah, he's, um, been fucking
• 4:13
  awful in the red zone this season. It's, it's, it's— and by the way,
• 4:16
  that, that interception in the red zone early in the game, like, you, you text
• 4:20
  me immediately and I started laughing. Um, it was a fucking god-awful fucking
• 4:24
  pass. It's— that's the thing is like, this isn't like, oh, it was tipped,
• 4:27
  or he threw it like he threw a jump ball and just went the other
• 4:30
  way. This was— you had no idea. He threw a screen pass
• 4:34
  to a fucking— yeah, the other team. Like, you, you should have— like,
• 4:38
  professional quarterbacks don't throw that interception. Occasionally they might,
• 4:42
  every few years. He's done it more than once in the last couple.
• 4:46
  Um, here's the thing. Oh,
• 4:49
  I'm already breaking stuff. Oh, it's the empty tequila bottle.
• 4:53
  We have a lot of alcohol underneath our feet. Uh, here's the thing,
• 4:56
  responsible journalists. I'm not even drunk. There's no explanation for this.
• 5:00
  Um, The game came down to a
• 5:05
  mistake by Caleb Williams and then a made-up call by Ben
• 5:10
  Johnson. Dude, like badass. Like, like truly, I don't know.
• 5:13
  There's no other way to say it. It was badass. Like Caleb
• 5:17
  made a fucking mistake. But to Caleb's credit, if you really watch that play,
• 5:20
  he had nowhere to go. Like, he had to throw it away and he had
• 5:23
  to throw it away quick. It would have been nice for him to make that
• 5:25
  choice again. Like there's like 4 quarterbacks in the NFL that like are
• 5:29
  smart enough to make the choice quickly. Um, here's what I loved about Ben Johnson,
• 5:33
  and it's why I think he's the real winner of the game. I don't like,
• 5:36
  you know, we learned about a lot about, you know, Caleb. We, we continue to—
• 5:40
  Drake still looks like early stage Josh Allen. That's what we
• 5:44
  look— what he looks like. Yes, he does. But what we really learned was Ben
• 5:46
  Johnson is not only like, you know,
• 5:50
  willing to coach his ass off against a pretty good defense,
• 5:53
  but he's willing to step up and take the— make the hard decision and play
• 5:57
  to win the game. Um, playing to win the game is a very specific
• 6:01
  thing, right? You could have played not to lose there, try to
• 6:05
  see if your defense could do something against Drake Maye. His— this was
• 6:09
  Cairo Santos' longest field goal. He'd never made anything past 55. Made 58.
• 6:13
  It was awesome. He made 58. And by the way, plenty more room. It would
• 6:17
  have been good from 62. Yeah. Um, and here's the thing, Ben Johnson in
• 6:21
  that moment had a choice because Caleb Williams looked distraught
• 6:24
  after that play. Like, he knew what he had just done. Yeah, he fucked up.
• 6:27
  Handed it off to an offense that was perfectly capable of scoring in that spot,
• 6:31
  and he was like really fucked up. And Ben Johnson looked at the situation— this
• 6:36
  is what I think he did— and said, I have an option. I have an
• 6:38
  opportunity to take this game into my hands, take it off Caleb Williams, because if
• 6:41
  Cairo doesn't make this kick, no one blames Caleb,
• 6:45
  blames Cairo. They blame— it's all on Ben Johnson,
• 6:48
  right? Because you're not going to blame the kicker for not making a kick he's
• 6:51
  never made. Yep. So he said, if this— if we're going down, I'm going down.
• 6:55
  I'm going down with the ship. It's going to be me that takes the blame.
• 6:59
  And instead, he walked off with the glory because he sealed the game. And I
• 7:03
  just loved it. It just seemed like the decision of a coach who's ready
• 7:07
  to win a fucking title. Dude, it was awesome. And that does not mean that
• 7:11
  they're going to. There's flaws on this team, specifically defensively.
• 7:14
  But like, oh my God, I just really liked it because
• 7:18
  I really felt like it was designed to protect the rest
• 7:22
  of his team and say like, fuck it, like we're in, they can beat us,
• 7:26
  dude, but not if we make this kick. I just loved it. I fucking loved
• 7:29
  everything about it. Yeah, I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I fucking
• 7:31
  loved it. I even loved like the, the New England drive afterwards to get
• 7:35
  that field goal as quickly as they can. Yeah, to kind of like everything about
• 7:38
  this is fucking perfect. We got it. By the way, you just experienced this in
• 7:41
  the Raiders game last week. We got to do something about something about the onside
• 7:45
  kick. There's just no chance. It's, it's, it's a zero-sum game. We have to.
• 7:48
  It fucking sucks. It's gotta— something's got— I actually like the high kick
• 7:52
  thing because at least that seems like it can cause some chaos. But we've really
• 7:56
  only seen one so far. No, and I— it didn't do it. I want to
• 7:59
  do that. I really want them to test out that proposal where you basically get
• 8:03
  like— it's like a 1-down, 25, 20-yard connection,
• 8:06
  something like that. Would be some sort of like you get one chance to do
• 8:10
  a conversion. That would be sweet because you're right, the onside kick just at this
• 8:13
  point really sucks. Yeah, it just sucks. I don't like it. Um, and but this
• 8:17
  was— I'm with you on everything about Ben Johnson specifically. Yeah.
• 8:20
  Um, the aspect that he had the balls to fucking
• 8:24
  go out and do that, and I, I just— I liked it.
• 8:27
  Everything about it was just like, as an ex-athlete, like seeing a head coach
• 8:31
  like, you got your guys, like, no, fuck it,
• 8:35
  if I'm gonna go down, I'm going down with my fucking guys. Yeah. And I
• 8:38
  just— everything about it, he trusted his kicker to fucking get it done and it
• 8:42
  didn't get it done, he trusted his defense to fucking stop it. Everything about this
• 8:46
  I just dug. It made me go like, Ben Johnson's the fucking real deal.
• 8:49
  The locker room afterward made it very clear they also agree. And that's just—
• 8:52
  it's a great recipe for success. Like, you know, it's the kind of the—
• 8:56
  it's the kind of stuff we saw from Dan Campbell early on. And actually,
• 9:00
  it's exactly what I thought at the time. Fully follow through on that, because we've
• 9:04
  talked about— I think their window's closed. But Caleb is built different.
• 9:08
  He's, he's not Jared Goff. So I was really excited to see that.
• 9:12
  Um, down's the cap, man. Here we go. Uh,
• 9:17
  the, the schedule coming up, we're gonna just do like a couple, just talking about
• 9:21
  the week ahead. I'm listening, I'm all ears, baby.
• 9:24
  We've got, you know, I'm not gonna go through every single game, but some highlights
• 9:28
  that I am interested in. Niners at Falcons. Last week
• 9:32
  I predicted that the Commanders were a trap game for the Niners. This is
• 9:35
  the trap game. This— and, and they nearly were, so to my credit.
• 9:39
  But this is it. But, um, I also like— it does, it does require
• 9:44
  a little bit of stepping up on the defense's end of things. Well, I think,
• 9:47
  I think the Niners are kind of screwed in this particular scenario because officially
• 9:51
  Mike Evans is out. Um, okay, so there it is,
• 9:55
  there it is. That's, that's the thing that we always talk about with the Niners
• 9:58
  where it's like, is this potentially the turning point? Do you win this game without
• 10:02
  Mike Evans? No. Because if you do, I think you're— if you do
• 10:05
  now, if I'm a betting man, I bet on you to go to the Super
• 10:08
  Bowl. 100%, right? 100%. I, I quit on everything else.
• 10:11
  This team's a Super Bowl— this team's a Super Bowl-winning team if they win this
• 10:16
  game against Mike Evans. Because without Mike Evans— without Mike Evans— because you got Penix
• 10:19
  Jr. out there. Listen, you and I both really like this,
• 10:22
  this fucking Atlanta Falcons team, especially with Mike Penix underneath the— America
• 10:27
  likes this team, I think. Dude, like, they're fucking fun. When Michael
• 10:30
  Penix Jr. is under center, like, this is a really fun team. They really are.
• 10:34
  The B. Robinsons are fun. Oh, the B. Robinsons. We love them. Very slow
• 10:38
  Drake London. Fucking Drake London, who has
• 10:41
  been playing like, like he's running in gravy for like 5
• 10:45
  years, but always catches, but catches everything. He just
• 10:49
  will move slowly to do it. By the way, tight ends, man.
• 10:52
  Tight ends this year. I'm just going to say. Yeah. I mean, I know Drake
• 10:56
  London's a wide receiver, but he's a tight end, really. But like, I was thinking
• 10:59
  about Coastal Loveland last night, and as Hunter Henry, as you do,
• 11:03
  you know, like these— I think about Hunter Henry in those late nights as well.
• 11:05
  But they're always like, they're the, they're the thing that's
• 11:09
  coming through on like every team. We're like in a weird like tight end,
• 11:12
  but it's weird like wide receivers. But, but partially I think because all the
• 11:17
  wide receivers are all breaking all of a sudden. Like look at the Rams,
• 11:19
  Puka's out this weekend, fucking Davante Adams is gone forever.
• 11:23
  Like just everybody's hurt. And it seems like the game is like
• 11:26
  switching back to the running back game and the tight end game. Running backs and
• 11:30
  tight ends. I mean, Isaiah Likely is fucking nuts. Obviously Bowers and
• 11:33
  Trey McBride. And by the way, I know you're not a Mike
• 11:37
  Mayer guy, but like Mayer on the side, he's been great. He's been fucking
• 11:40
  monster. The rookie tight end on the Patriots also. Yes.
• 11:44
  Like, really? I don't— it's just all the tight ends are good.
• 11:47
  This is always like a development thing from high school into college.
• 11:50
  Like there's just certain positional groups that hit all at the same time for lots
• 11:54
  of reasons. But I just wanted to say that I really like that,
• 11:57
  um, and it's, it's making the season more exciting because we're getting some stuff
• 12:01
  we haven't seen in a minute. Uh, meanwhile, by the way, Lamar Jackson still
• 12:04
  just has Mark Andrews, which is so depressing. There's like 90 good tight
• 12:08
  ends now and he's like— except, are we getting Lamar this week? Are we getting
• 12:11
  Lamar this week? We'll talk about it. Um, next game, Bengals at Ravens.
• 12:14
  Yes. So, uh, we still don't know. He's practicing. I saw that
• 12:18
  he practiced, but like, they're, they're very, very cagey about it. They're being very cagey
• 12:22
  about it, um, probably because it's a divisional game, so they're going to do it
• 12:25
  as long as they can get away with it. They want the Bengals to have
• 12:28
  to prepare for either quarterback, which does actually require separate preparation,
• 12:31
  puts more stress on their scout QB. Lamar Jackson, even though
• 12:35
  Snoop Huntley is a fucking really good quarterback, like, once Lamar Jackson— exactly.
• 12:39
  Um, and it's a big game, like Bengals-Ravens is a big deal game. It's one
• 12:43
  of the marquee games of the day. Um, he's listed as questionable. We don't
• 12:47
  know. I still have a ton of questions about
• 12:51
  the Bengals defense, as does everybody else. Um, so they
• 12:55
  get a huge break if it's not Lamar. I,
• 13:00
  I think that the like Joe Burrow versus Lamar of it would be much more
• 13:03
  interesting than anything else we could get. We've been robbed of some pretty good matchups
• 13:07
  between Lamar and other quarterbacks. So, um, by the way, while we're on
• 13:11
  the Bengals of it all, have you seen The whole thing with the Bengals,
• 13:14
  like, cold shouldering J.D. Vance. Mm-hmm.
• 13:18
  So the internet has been, like, blowing up about this. Very great
• 13:22
  video. Love to see it. Fucking amazing. Walking by him, right? By the way,
• 13:25
  in case you— in case you don't know this, J.D. Vance sucks
• 13:29
  in every, like, conceivable metric.
• 13:32
  Like, all of them. Who do you think in our audience doesn't know that?
• 13:36
  No, no, but I just want to be on the record for it because I
• 13:39
  don't think I've ever actually said anything about J.D. Vance. JD Vance is like
• 13:44
  the idea of like— like JD Vance seems like a 13-year-old
• 13:48
  who's really into Magic: The Gathering, okay? And he
• 13:52
  thinks like he's gotten one up on everybody,
• 13:55
  but like he is— he's the whipping boy and he doesn't know
• 13:59
  it. And it's fucking funny because the last guy in his position,
• 14:03
  like the guy ahead of him, tried to get him hung,
• 14:06
  literally. Trump tried to get Pence hung. Yes. Yeah.
• 14:09
  So the last guy in his position tried to get him hanged. Actually,
• 14:13
  he's actually the word. He was hanged. He was. Well, they certainly
• 14:17
  hanged him in effigy. So they did. So with that, this one who
• 14:21
  is a clown is— it's just been really fun
• 14:25
  to watch. So it's sort of to that point, J.D.,
• 14:29
  people who like Trump or MAGA don't necessarily like J.D. Vance. No.
• 14:33
  And so he's a douchebag. I don't take this as like the Bengals being
• 14:36
  woke. Like, they just don't like J.D. Vance. Like, J.D.
• 14:39
  Vance is annoying and like whatever. The Bengals aren't woke.
• 14:43
  They're just annoyed by J.D. Vance. I still liked it.
• 14:47
  Here's the thing. So there's that, that whole, um,
• 14:50
  there's that whole Joe Burrow being like, we, you know, they left
• 14:54
  with swiftness and effectiveness or whatever the fuck he said. And like,
• 14:57
  was like, I don't mind. I don't blame people for wanting to come watch us.
• 15:00
  We're great. Like, Whatever he's— it was like a bizarre thing, but it made no
• 15:04
  sense. But I liked it. Some people really loved it, right? So we were like,
• 15:07
  I didn't know I had to ride with Joe Burrow, but I guess I do.
• 15:09
  And I was like, oh, oh, we're just acting like he has
• 15:13
  not met with and shook the hand of Trump several
• 15:18
  times, multiple times at UFC events. Yeah, this is— he just doesn't like JD
• 15:23
  Vance, guys, because no one likes JD Vance. Perfectly fine to be— I— even if
• 15:27
  he doesn't vote MAGA, even if he doesn't vote at all, he's perfectly fine to
• 15:30
  be MAGA adjacent. He's out there with Joey Bosa and fucking— or Nick Bosa and
• 15:34
  Trump, and he's shaking his hand multiple times at UFC events. Dana White, by the
• 15:38
  way. Like, this guy's not— stop casting these. I don't need you to hate him.
• 15:41
  I agree. I just— stop casting these guys as heroes. I agree. But can we
• 15:45
  just enjoy JD Vance looking like a little bitch? That's not what
• 15:49
  people are doing though. Just enjoy that. Yeah, I am. But all I'm seeing is
• 15:53
  people being like Joey Burrow. Oh, knock that shit off.
• 15:57
  It's like, no, no, no, I'm just happy to see a little fucking
• 16:01
  twerp exactly being treated like a little twerp that he deserves. And that's
• 16:05
  the thing is like when you want to be adjacent to the cool kids,
• 16:07
  you better be cool. And the cool kids think
• 16:11
  Trump is cool, but they do not think— not even a fucking little— you're a
• 16:14
  fucking twerp. Um, Broncos at Cardinals, trap game.
• 16:18
  I'm gonna say trap game every time someone plays the Cardinals now. Wait, but the
• 16:22
  Broncos aren't good. They're not good. Their record says they're good, but they're
• 16:25
  not good. Their defense is great. Defense is good. Their defense is fucking great.
• 16:29
  But their offense is dogshit and they have Bo Nix. Their defense is great,
• 16:33
  but their offense has Bo Nix. And here's the thing, but their offense has
• 16:37
  Bo Nix. The Cardinals have my boy
• 16:41
  Jacoby Brissett, who we love, who can win a game without scoring a touchdown,
• 16:44
  but not against this defense. By the way, their kicker, the Cardinals kicker, is the
• 16:49
  kicker that Belichick drafted in like his last year as the head coach that
• 16:53
  they like let go. Really? And he's so good, and I'm like, why is he
• 16:56
  their kicker now? God damn it. Whoops. Um, I know. That being
• 16:59
  said, uh, I do actually think— I don't think it's true. I do think—
• 17:03
  do you think so? I, I don't know. I got the Broncos in this one.
• 17:05
  How dumb are you? For what reason? Very dumb. Well, for what you just said.
• 17:10
  The defense. I think their defense is gonna stop them. Yes. Yeah, but their
• 17:14
  offense has Bo Nix. That is a problem. That is a— I'll
• 17:19
  admit that is a problem. I didn't say my, my argument was flawless.
• 17:23
  That's a problem. Um, the, the next best game of the week is probably
• 17:26
  Packers at Lions. And, um, one— I,
• 17:29
  I am once again asking you, Cody, how the fuck am I supposed to know?
• 17:32
  I'm going Detroit Lions. I cannot believe Jordan Love is going to do
• 17:36
  this 3 times in a row. Okay, I just— I firmly believe the Lions are
• 17:39
  actually just playing the odds. I'm going. Yes, that's what I'm doing. I think the
• 17:44
  Lions are going to beat the fuck out of the Green Bay Packers. I think
• 17:46
  they're going to beat them by 10 points. I like Late Night Cody because you're
• 17:49
  making hard predictions. Hard fucking hard predictions.
• 17:54
  Late Night Cody's a different beast. That's, that's great.
• 17:58
  Hold on, hold on. Fucking 10 points.
• 18:02
  The listeners are really missing out. You guys don't know. Yeah,
• 18:06
  they have. You guys don't know what Late Night Cody is capable of. This is
• 18:08
  why you have to watch the regular show. This is the sexy show. Yeah,
• 18:11
  you know what I'm saying? Also, however we have the, um, cameras, you look so
• 18:15
  small compared to me. So just— you made us do this.
• 18:18
  I didn't, I didn't line up your camera. Literally, no, I literally like— here.
• 18:23
  Okay, fine. No, no, I'm kidding. No, no, no, no, cuz I can do it
• 18:25
  right here. But look how much smaller you look than me. It's so funny.
• 18:29
  Not anymore, not anymore. I'm going to fucking look huge.
• 18:32
  I'm going to look fucking huge now. He's just my little guy.
• 18:35
  Don't That's just my little guy.
• 18:40
  Oh, stop it. This is ridiculous.
• 18:44
  Um, Cody? Yes?
• 18:48
  It's so close to your face. I can see the glare on your head.
• 18:52
  Fucking don't do that. Wait, why? Do you think that
• 18:55
  the Raiders are gonna beat the Rams? That's what I'm sensitive about. Uh,
• 18:58
  yes, you do. I do, actually, I do. And by
• 19:02
  the way, I thought this before the Puka Nacua news. Um, but now I 100%—
• 19:05
  because here's the thing, um, the Raiders have flaws. Like, obviously they're 3-3,
• 19:09
  uh, but the, the things that are good about the Raiders are really good.
• 19:12
  The things that are bad about the Raiders are just like, oh, their defense,
• 19:16
  their secondary defense, uh, their pass rush defense.
• 19:19
  Um, they, they get a lot of sacks, but they also don't get
• 19:23
  to the quarterback very fast. They actually get to the quarterback at like 4.1 seconds.
• 19:26
  They're like, like, it's like 0.5 later than every other team.
• 19:29
  Yeah, wait, that's so slow. I know, it's fucking very slow. It's a
• 19:34
  problem. I, I'm saying the problems of the team. Yeah, yeah, God, Dick,
• 19:37
  I'm saying the bad things about my team that I love so fucking much.
• 19:40
  Yeah, but, um, their offense is fucking phenomenal,
• 19:44
  and the run— the run game's not even good, but they're like— the pass game's
• 19:47
  amazing. Uh, Kirk Cousins is utilizing both Brock Bowers and Mayer so unbelievably well.
• 19:51
  Kubiak is gonna figure out a way to scheme for Gente. I like— I
• 19:55
  do. I think so too. He just needs to figure it out. Same, same.
• 19:57
  But Because currently Matthew
• 20:01
  Stafford literally has no one to fucking throw the ball to at
• 20:05
  this point. Puka and Davante, Davante, and he doesn't have Ferguson
• 20:09
  either. I'm calling him DeAndre Hopkins. I don't know. Davante Adams,
• 20:12
  Puka Nacua, and Ferguson, all 3 are out.
• 20:15
  Like, those are his 3 main targets. Like, he has nothing.
• 20:19
  And the Rams are playing some— they're paying some sort
• 20:22
  of curse. There's their fucking— they don't have a kicker. Something's wrong. They don't have
• 20:26
  a kicker. They're fucking without Miles Garrett. We still don't have any fucking semblance
• 20:30
  of when he's coming back. It was supposed to be 5 weeks. Something's up.
• 20:32
  Yeah. Um, all right, I like this. I agree. So I agree, I think the
• 20:36
  Raiders are winning this game. Yeah, I— at the very least, the Raiders have no
• 20:39
  excuse to lose it. True. So how about we say it that way? That's,
• 20:42
  that's it. Here's a— it's not a litmus test, but like, if you want
• 20:46
  to prove to me that you are a bubble team, you're a real team that
• 20:48
  can maybe be a playoff team, you have to win this game. All right.
• 20:51
  By the way, the Rams have to win this game. And oh, and well,
• 20:55
  that's the thing is like, I there's, there's one of those things where it's like,
• 20:57
  why would they win this game? What, what about them would win this game?
• 21:00
  I know. No, no, I'm with you. You know, I'm with you wholeheartedly.
• 21:03
  So like, what unit is going to do it for them? Um,
• 21:07
  on the flip side, 2 teams that I do think, um,
• 21:11
  are definite playoff contenders are the Chiefs and the Seahawks. So the Chiefs
• 21:15
  are going to Seattle, and this is really the, the Kansas
• 21:19
  City's rushing attack versus Seattle's run defense. This is a cool
• 21:22
  year for the Chiefs where the star of the show is really not
• 21:26
  Patrick Mahomes. No, it's not. But he's still going to fucking do his thing.
• 21:30
  Yes, he's the steady force. He's— and he's the driving force of the offense still.
• 21:33
  But what is actually the motor? It's Kenneth Walker Jr.
• 21:38
  III. And he is obviously— was
• 21:42
  on the Revenge Game, baby. Revenge Game, baby. This is a
• 21:46
  fun revenge game. And he don't want to give me the bag. Oh,
• 21:50
  he leads the NFL with 665 rushing yards through 6 games, averaging 6.3
• 21:55
  yards per carry. Um, Seattle has only allowed 3 to 5 yard
• 21:59
  averages per rush and has gone 35 games without allowing an individual 100-yard
• 22:04
  rusher. Yeah, um, they have a great rushing defense, so what a perfect matchup.
• 22:08
  Yeah, you know, um, really good, really good game.
• 22:11
  That's a Sunday night game, right? Good game. So I think that's a Sunday night
• 22:14
  game. It is. Monday night game, oof,
• 22:17
  not great, guys. Not great, not great, Bob.
• 22:20
  I'm not even positive, like I know I have to take it and watch it.
• 22:24
  Like, I know I have— oh, I'm watching it. I have a morbid curiosity to
• 22:28
  watch it. But they— by the way, NFL really thought they had a winner before
• 22:32
  the season on this one. They always do. They throw the fucking— I don't know
• 22:35
  why, but this is so bad. This is, this is really bad.
• 22:39
  The weekly NFC East game on primetime is not good, right? Just think
• 22:43
  of the— I hope they tie. I— because I know the Giants aren't winning and
• 22:46
  the Commanders are off, so it could be 3 weeks in a row. We could—
• 22:49
  what if This is the game where someone forfeits.
• 22:52
  I'm just saying, let's get something even
• 22:56
  better. Cowboy, by the way, in case you don't know what we're talking about,
• 22:58
  Cowboys versus the Eagles. Yeah, this Cowboys
• 23:02
  versus this Eagles. Yeah, the Eagles, I'm not positive, are still a team.
• 23:06
  I— without Jalen Hurts, it just like— it's pretty wild.
• 23:09
  They have 2 wins because of Jalen. If you never like thought
• 23:13
  that Jalen was like the reason that anybody watched the team to begin with,
• 23:17
  sure does feel like it now. Boy oh boy, are you
• 23:21
  all going to appreciate Jalen Hurts after this? Yeah, you really—
• 23:25
  every Eagle fan should fucking— should have like an identity crisis
• 23:30
  after this. I will say Nick Sirianni is coaching for his life,
• 23:34
  dude. Even if they— I don't think they fucking hung his ass out to dry.
• 23:36
  I don't think Howie Roseman is going to keep him after this year because he's
• 23:40
  a nefarious psycho. Howie Roseman hung his ass out to dry is what
• 23:45
  Yeah, but I do think Nick Sirianni has a pretty solid case to get a
• 23:49
  head coaching job somewhere else. So he's still coaching for his life, whether it's for
• 23:52
  the Eagles or someone else. I'm intrigued to see if he can pull something out
• 23:55
  of his ass. He's not exactly known as a, like a, a game, a game
• 23:58
  manager, as a game guy. He's a, he's a culture guy. He's certainly
• 24:02
  a leader of men. But yeah, so that's,
• 24:06
  that's really it. Any thoughts? It's just a big woof for Monday Night Football.
• 24:10
  Any thoughts left over before we head on,
• 24:13
  move on from NFL? No, listen, I'm excited for the
• 24:17
  weekend. We got some great games that we're looking forward to and some shit games,
• 24:20
  mainly Monday night. Monday night's a really— it's all leading up to a
• 24:24
  sort of like must-watch train wreck. Yeah.
• 24:27
  Yeah, it's a dog, but I'm going to watch this fucking dog.
• 24:31
  We are going to debut in headline number 2, the very first
• 24:35
  NBA conversation that we have had in,
• 24:39
  in months since we're back. Finals, since the Knicks fucking back.
• 24:43
  We're back. By the way, Knicks are so fucked. I can't wait to talk about
• 24:46
  that. Uh, yeah, Knicks lost to the Celtics tonight. Oh, I wasn't talking about that.
• 24:49
  I was talking about Jimmy Dolan fucking sending fake fucking rings to people. Tatum,
• 24:53
  Tatum got their asses at the end of the game today. Um, that thing
• 24:56
  was nuts. So we're— we— I, I don't have that in here, but we can
• 24:59
  talk about it. We can talk. Um, it'll be pop culture corner. Sure, that's a
• 25:03
  good idea. Um, the 76ers are the big story of the NBA season just a
• 25:05
  few games into the season. Yeah, um, they're fucking— it was sort of like
• 25:10
  inevitable that they would be the story by now. It was just a matter of
• 25:13
  are they going to look as good as they should look or are they going
• 25:15
  to like look like a train wreck? Nope, they look fucking sick.
• 25:20
  LeBron James looks like he's having more fun on this team playing
• 25:23
  basketball than he had— than he's had in 5 to 7
• 25:27
  years at the— like, I mean, truly, he like looks revived.
• 25:30
  So you know the thing I was worried about about with this team. Like,
• 25:33
  legitimately, the thing I was worried about— my favorite NBA player is Tyrese Maxey.
• 25:36
  I'm like, how is Tyrese Maxey gonna like fit
• 25:41
  in all of this like mountain of stars? Perfectly fine.
• 25:45
  Fine. Fucking fine. Because he's fucking Tyrese Maxey.
• 25:48
  You have to remember, Jaylen Brown is a guy who's used
• 25:52
  to having a 2-headed monster. He's used to being
• 25:55
  a part of like 1A, 1B. This shit's nuts. So it's really nuts.
• 25:59
  Last night, like, game 1 against the Knicks, I'm like, oh yeah, this This is
• 26:03
  real. The comeback. Game 2, I was like, fuck me,
• 26:06
  this is real. Philadelphia erased a 29-point deficit
• 26:11
  to beat the Cleveland Cavaliers 114 to 106. Tyrese Maxey
• 26:15
  scored 32 points while LeBron James contributed 17 points, 10 rebounds,
• 26:19
  and 5 assists. It was the largest comeback with the win in
• 26:22
  Sixers play-by-play era history.
• 26:26
  That's insane. That is for, for a team with this
• 26:30
  little chemistry so far to be able to do that. I mean,
• 26:33
  LeBron and Jaylen Brown are brand new to that fucking team.
• 26:37
  That's crazy. Crazy.
• 26:40
  We have Trump's criticism of LeBron, which is its own
• 26:44
  hilarious bullshit, by the way. Makes me root for Philadelphia
• 26:48
  even more. Right. So that— well, that's the thing is like now they've created this
• 26:51
  sort of like, oh, like now we're the enemy of, of everybody
• 26:56
  who hates Trump. So like, enemy of my enemy is my friend.
• 27:00
  Oh, so people who have any sort of, you know,
• 27:03
  anger toward Trump are gonna be like, well, fuck him, like, go LeBron,
• 27:07
  right? Go LeBron. Lots of LeBron haters, but you can't hate LeBron more than Trump.
• 27:11
  Um, here's the thing. In the
• 27:15
  PR wars between the Js, Jayson and
• 27:18
  Jaylen to be specific. Yeah. Jaylen Brown's coming out real good right
• 27:22
  now. Right now. Yeah. Let's talk about what happened. Jayson Tatum finally sat
• 27:26
  down and talked about his reaction to finding out that Jaylen Brown had been traded.
• 27:30
  And he sort of— he was essentially like,
• 27:34
  you know, my guy, my agent called me and was like, they traded him.
• 27:37
  And he was like, to where? And he was like, Philly. And,
• 27:41
  you know, Jaylen— Jayson Tatum goes, they traded him down the street.
• 27:46
  Now, All the conspiracy theories about Jayson Tatum,
• 27:49
  Jaylen Brown, their breakup, we've heard it a thousand times.
• 27:53
  He puts this out there, I'm like, hmm, interesting. Doesn't seem that heartbroken.
• 27:58
  He seems more confused why they traded him to the Sixers than anything else.
• 28:00
  I would be too, by the way. Understandable. Yeah, but he
• 28:05
  talked about like, oh, you know, we would like— we won a lot together,
• 28:08
  but tried to be complimentary in some way, shape, or form, but it was very
• 28:11
  like chill. I want to show you guys what
• 28:16
  Jaylen Brown said in reaction to this video.
• 28:19
  So, Cody, will you pop up that graphic for me? I sure will.
• 28:23
  All right. There you are. There's, there's a screenshot. And underneath is Jaylen Brown's
• 28:28
  response. That, my friends, is cap. And for the uninitiated,
• 28:32
  that means you're lying.
• 28:35
  That means you're lying. He commented that on the video
• 28:39
  on Instagram. For— with his full chest from his real fucking account.
• 28:43
  So Jaylen Brown does not have fond feelings for Jayson
• 28:47
  Tatum right now. Nope. Um, Jayson Tatum's reaction to Jaylen Brown leaving
• 28:50
  was pretty underwhelming to begin with. It's this one. And then,
• 28:53
  yeah, now we're here. So, you know, their whole article
• 28:57
  today that says, is Jayson Tatum under increased pressure after Jaylen Brown's
• 29:01
  comments? And my whole point was to say,
• 29:04
  yeah, yeah, yeah, of course he is, because If
• 29:07
  you did not keep a brotherhood, right? If you, if you two
• 29:11
  didn't have a brotherhood on that team after everything you'd been through, which, by the
• 29:15
  way, I know so many people in Celtics media, whatever.
• 29:18
  They actually had a great working relationship until these contract
• 29:22
  negotiations, until this shit happened, really, until the rumors started happening and Jayson
• 29:26
  didn't have his back. And there was a lot of reported friction about the fact
• 29:30
  that Jaylen Brown got them, got such a boost in his profile with Jayson
• 29:35
  Tatum out. And it caused them to have a falling out. This is not where
• 29:38
  their relationship was. No, I thought they were good. They were great. So I
• 29:43
  do think Jayson Tatum has an immense amount of pressure to
• 29:47
  say, uh, well, if this was— if I was gonna be butthurt about the fact
• 29:51
  that Jaylen Brown was A-number-one while I was out, I better step
• 29:55
  up. Now tonight he was very clutch against the Knicks. They won that game.
• 29:59
  Jaylen Brown's been playing well. This could be interesting. This could
• 30:03
  get really interesting. I'm very fired up for Christmas Day specifically.
• 30:06
  Yeah, well, I'm not gonna be— you know, I hate, I hate trying to watch
• 30:11
  football— I mean, uh, basketball on Christmas. I like watching football on Thanksgiving, but I
• 30:15
  do not like watching basketball on Christmas. It's a lot for me.
• 30:18
  Where are you doing Christmas? At my house.
• 30:24
  Yeah, me and Chris, we, we Zoom with my family. Like for hours at
• 30:29
  a time in the morning, and then we, you know, drink a lot of mimosas.
• 30:31
  A lot of mimosas. Um, do you want to talk about the
• 30:35
  kicking off the World Series and where the MLB is at?
• 30:39
  I would love to. Oh, skipping early. Nice. Too early.
• 30:43
  Um, the World Series has kicked off. Yeah. And, um, we have
• 30:47
  a fun little— we have a fun little twist here on the conversation that we
• 30:50
  had last show where we were just talking about the parody and everything else.
• 30:52
  That I wanted to show you. So now you can bring up that
• 30:56
  graphic. I'm gonna. Okay. This World Series
• 30:59
  will be the 2nd championship round matchup in the NBA, NFL,
• 31:02
  MLB, or NHL between 2 franchises who had each been
• 31:06
  in the league for 25 or more years without ever winning the title.
• 31:09
  The other was the 1990 Stan— 1999
• 31:13
  Stanley Cup Finals between the Stars and the Sabres. So to me,
• 31:17
  that's actually kind of wild. This isn't just like something that rarely happens
• 31:21
  in the major league, in Major League Baseball. It's something that never
• 31:25
  happens in sports. So once
• 31:29
  again, love to see it.
• 31:34
  Excited to see how the World Series plays out. Did the Brewers win tonight?
• 31:38
  They're currently winning right now. Oh, they just won.
• 31:42
  They just won. They just won. Brewers win 3-2. And I have the Brewers in
• 31:45
  this series, by the way, going 6 games. Yeah, your boy. I gotta say,
• 31:48
  favorite coach, Pat Murphy. I love Pat Murphy. I have a lot of Pat Murphy
• 31:52
  stories. I just love— you think you're needling me? Like,
• 31:55
  I think Pat thinks I hate him. I, I don't. I love Pat Murphy.
• 31:58
  I just, I'm just honest about Pat Murphy. Yeah, that's all. I'm just honest
• 32:02
  about the guy. Yeah. Like, is Pat a great guy? Yes and no.
• 32:06
  Yeah, like most people. That's how I feel about Mike Vrabel.
• 32:09
  Yeah, he's complex. Do I, do I love him like a
• 32:14
  father figure? Was he a father figure to me? Yes. Were we extremely close for
• 32:18
  about 4 years? Yes. Did we have a mild falling out?
• 32:21
  Yes. Do we have any ill will to say about each other?
• 32:24
  Absolutely not. I have nothing but good things to say about him. Okay. But by
• 32:28
  the way, everything I say about him now is exactly what I said about
• 32:33
  him then. Yeah, he's the best motivator I've ever had. I think he's a fucking
• 32:36
  hoot. I will say, I will say, Kevin Cash
• 32:41
  is great. Is, has, is the longest tenured coach in Major League Baseball.
• 32:45
  Which I was like, oh, I didn't realize he'd been there even longer than Dave
• 32:47
  Roberts has been in Los Angeles. I mean, it makes sense.
• 32:51
  He's been there forever. He built the whole thing. He is so underrated
• 32:55
  because no one talks about the Rays and no one, you know, cares about the
• 32:57
  Rays. Agreed. But he's a fucking legend. No doubt about it.
• 33:00
  He's fucking unbelievable. So you really can't go wrong with either one of these teams
• 33:03
  winning. What we can— where we are going to lose regardless is there
• 33:07
  is going to be a fucking lockout. The MLBPA said today
• 33:11
  that a lockout is happening. They said that it's happening. There's virtually no chance Major
• 33:15
  League Baseball and the Players Association would agree to extend the current labor agreement to
• 33:18
  avoid a potentially disastrous lockout. Even if the league was not proposing a salary cap,
• 33:22
  the centerpiece of a contentious negotiation, interim union
• 33:25
  head Bruce Meyer is not prepared to do a status quo deal,
• 33:30
  Commissioner Rob Manfred said Friday before Game 1 of the World Series. He made a
• 33:33
  lot of demands about improvements that they want, Manfred continued.
• 33:37
  Everybody's got stuff on the table right now. And, you know, we'll see how it
• 33:40
  sorts out. But Manfred himself isn't interested in the status quo deal either.
• 33:44
  I'm not suggesting I am. My only point is everybody's focused on the fact that
• 33:48
  you have a salary cap on the table and Meyer doesn't
• 33:51
  like that. Well, he has a whole lot of proposals on the table that we
• 33:55
  don't like. We're going to have to get through that. For his part, Meyer said
• 33:59
  that anything's possible, but there's been no discussion about the idea
• 34:03
  of an extension. And ultimately cast doubt it would happen. It's not happening. It's not
• 34:07
  happening. The CBA is going to be dead. It is. There is going to be
• 34:10
  a lockout. Lockout. So again, if you like baseball, enjoy the
• 34:14
  World Series. Please do. Might be the last one. Last time you're gonna be— ever,
• 34:17
  ever. Enjoy. Last time you're gonna watch baseball in a long time.
• 34:20
  It's gonna be a while. Um, and it's gonna get ugly. Very.
• 34:24
  And it's gonna get exhausting. Extremely. So enjoy this really
• 34:28
  delightful World Series because tonight was a great game. It was. Um,
• 34:31
  that's, that's really that. What else did you have? Any other World Series thoughts or
• 34:34
  anything else you want to add? I, I think these are 2 very good teams.
• 34:38
  These are 2 teams worth watching. This is a World Series
• 34:42
  worth watching. I know the ratings are going to be way
• 34:45
  down, but, um, I honestly
• 34:50
  think that's also good for baseball because as much as like we're like,
• 34:54
  I, I don't know what to say, like This is so surface level at this
• 34:58
  point. We have 2 small market teams, one of which is the smallest market.
• 35:01
  The last 2 World Series was the 2nd largest market in the Dodgers, who everyone
• 35:06
  says is ruining baseball. But the ratings were so fucking through the roof and
• 35:10
  the money was so through the roof that I simply don't understand
• 35:13
  what you guys want. Like, that's where I keep getting— I've said
• 35:17
  this like 90 times this week. And we have actually a good question.
• 35:21
  I'm very curious about 2027 if some big names go up,
• 35:25
  uh, go to KBO? And oh God, that'd be very interesting. Would networks in 2027
• 35:29
  pick up games if, say, a Bryce Harper's playing for the Hanshin Tigers? So I
• 35:32
  don't see a world where like a Bryce Harper goes over there because the,
• 35:36
  the thing is, he's got too much money. The, the thing is they don't pay
• 35:38
  Bryce Harper. So when they pay in the KBO, they pay Cody Decker
• 35:42
  money. Yeah, like they can get me for $750,000.
• 35:47
  Guys, do we get— do we bring Cody back to the staff? They didn't when
• 35:51
  I was not washed up, so they're not going to do it now. I think
• 35:55
  you'd die if you played a full baseball game right now. No, I would be
• 35:57
  fucking great. I could play a whole season right now. Well, you, you really— they
• 36:01
  just need you to DH. Oh, I can DH right now. Yeah. Okay. I was
• 36:04
  gonna say I can play a full season DH right now. Right fucking now.
• 36:08
  Hell yeah. Badly, but I could do it, but I would do it. You'd hit
• 36:11
  more home runs than I would. Uh, I would, uh, probably 3 at this point
• 36:15
  in my life. But I will say this, like the KBO, like I tried to
• 36:17
  get over the KBO. So I do think that when Major League Baseball doesn't come
• 36:21
  back, I do see ESPN like spending some money on some KBO games because they
• 36:25
  did this during COVID Uh, KBO launched about 2 months before Major League Baseball and
• 36:29
  we were all watching KBO games at like fucking 5 AM during COVID It was
• 36:32
  fucking great. We had nothing to do during COVID So exactly. So I got up
• 36:36
  at 5 AM to watch some fucking professional baseball and Korean baseball and it was
• 36:39
  fucking awesome. Um, but to say that we're
• 36:43
  going to see stars go over there. So there's multiple reasons why we're not.
• 36:45
  One of which is very simple and it's They have, uh,
• 36:49
  rules over in Japan, Venezuela,
• 36:52
  Mexico, all the Caribbeans, and,
• 36:56
  and, and, uh, Korea. Um, they have a, um,
• 36:59
  a limit to import players. They usually— it's
• 37:03
  between 3 to 5 players, and that's any import. That means not
• 37:07
  American, Dominican, Cuban,
• 37:10
  yada yada yada. They can only have that many players that are not from that
• 37:13
  country play in their league. Um, and it's so they can grow
• 37:17
  their league. That's the whole thing. Yeah, because otherwise they would just get a bunch
• 37:20
  of AAA, AA players, pretty much. Yeah. Uh, and, and by the way, that,
• 37:23
  that, that, that business model has absolutely worked out for both these leagues because
• 37:27
  they've developed into monster leagues to the point where, uh, NBP,
• 37:30
  uh, Nippon Professional Baseball, is, in my opinion,
• 37:34
  actually might be better than Major League Baseball now. That's how
• 37:38
  good Japan is now. Uh, I tried to get
• 37:42
  over to Japan for years. It's very difficult to get there. Bryce, if Bryce Harper
• 37:45
  says tomorrow I want to go to Japan, they'll sign him in a heartbeat.
• 37:48
  Yeah. And they'll probably pay him the greatest record deal ever in Japan, but it
• 37:53
  would be like $12 million. Yeah. And Japan would
• 37:57
  definitely be the most high-profile place you could play. So that's really the only place
• 38:00
  outside the United States. Japan would be number one. No, and it's not even KBO
• 38:05
  would probably be 3 in Korea. Uh, you can go to Mexico. That'd probably be
• 38:09
  4. Uh, because their summer league is a fucking monster league as well. But it's
• 38:13
  like we're talking Major League Baseball, the crème de la crème. Like it's NFL.
• 38:17
  It's that like those leagues are just not that.
• 38:21
  Okay. Well, I love that question. Thank you for that question,
• 38:25
  Avery Sports Show. That was a really good one. Um,
• 38:29
  and I think that's it for that. We— before we head into Media Corner where
• 38:33
  we are also going to talk about Angel Reese over there too, but we— I
• 38:36
  want to talk about Angel Reese specifically. Just on her own terms and this
• 38:40
  WNBA Finals. Because since we last talked, there was a Game 3 and
• 38:45
  she fucking dominated that one too. Yeah, we are watching
• 38:49
  like the— can you remember maybe a comp
• 38:54
  for the last time you knew that someone was in the middle of becoming
• 38:57
  one of the most famous athletes that we have? Like, we're watching someone level
• 39:02
  up from being famous successful to like,
• 39:06
  we are now talking about superstar. People who
• 39:10
  don't watch sports know her. Yes, but it's smaller.
• 39:14
  And hear me out on this, you're gonna think I'm crazy for saying this.
• 39:18
  Um, there was a Home Run Derby that happened.
• 39:22
  No one knew who Bobby Abreu was. Bobby Abreu
• 39:26
  went off in this Home Run Derby. Bobby Abreu went
• 39:30
  from a Reds power hitter to like signing a massive deal
• 39:34
  with the Yankees to being like the next Little League World
• 39:37
  Series. Every kid on every team said their favorite player was Bobby Abreu.
• 39:42
  It lasted maybe 2 and a half years. Yeah, so why did you bring that
• 39:45
  up as a comp? The reason why I brought it up was because literally he
• 39:49
  came out of fucking nowhere and he was— he didn't come out of nowhere.
• 39:52
  She's literally been famous since she was— you're right, but she was not famous for
• 39:56
  what she's famous for. Bullshit-wise,
• 40:00
  she should be famous for how great she is for winning a title
• 40:04
  in college. Like, she's— I know she's fucking famous, but like,
• 40:07
  I— the thing that drives me nuts about the Angel Reese conversation, because Angel Reese
• 40:10
  is astonishing. Yeah, but Angel Reese's fucking national
• 40:15
  narrative, because most people don't watch Angel Reese, most people just go off of,
• 40:17
  well, I'm a Caitlin Clark fan, that they just,
• 40:21
  they just assume me bounds that she sucks.
• 40:24
  Angel Reese is one of the top 5 best players alive.
• 40:28
  Like right now, I mean, she's like— when, when we're talking about when
• 40:32
  I, I feel like this is more akin to like— this feels a
• 40:35
  lot more to me like Tiger Woods and Serena Williams
• 40:39
  and these players who we know through their whole youth,
• 40:43
  that generational, huh? Well, no, that's what it feels like right now.
• 40:46
  I don't— I can't see into the future. It could be. What I'm saying is
• 40:49
  that turning point of like, we knew Serena was going to
• 40:52
  be crazy good It— was she gonna be one of the GOATs? We don't know.
• 40:56
  Then, right, she starts winning. She's, she's tag team,
• 41:00
  you know, the pairs with Venus. Venus was the better one. And then all
• 41:04
  of a sudden we're like, oh fuck, she's the best tennis player in the world,
• 41:07
  right? Same thing with Tiger. We hear about Tiger, we hear about Tiger, we hear—
• 41:11
  oh, hold on, holy shit. Okay, whatever. I hear what you're saying.
• 41:15
  You know, I, I hear what you're saying. You know why I'm not there?
• 41:18
  There is because I, I know Asia Wilson exists.
• 41:23
  Like, those people, like, right, superseded their sport.
• 41:27
  This is so exhausting to talk about Angel with anybody who's not
• 41:31
  a Black woman. I need to only talk about Angel with Black women. I just
• 41:35
  can't. I can't. I don't understand how you guys don't fucking get what I'm saying.
• 41:38
  I don't understand it. Well, make me understand. I don't understand. It's so crazy.
• 41:42
  It's crazy making. Make me understand. I'm so sorry. Serena Williams was not
• 41:46
  the best women's player in the world when she started playing tennis. I'm aware there
• 41:50
  was a superstar. There were several, like, in fact Venus was way above
• 41:53
  her at the time, like, but there were people with like records who were like,
• 41:56
  they exist, Serena can't be the best. I didn't say Angel was the best player
• 42:00
  in the world right now. Yes, right. Tiger Woods also wasn't
• 42:04
  the best golfer in the world when he won his first fucking— you are
• 42:09
  right, but no, no, I, I guess, okay, so let me explain.
• 42:12
  Let me talk to you about Angel Reese.
• 42:15
  My issue is not that Angel Reese is not having her coming out party,
• 42:18
  because maybe she does, could take this moment and like become the Tiger Woods of
• 42:21
  everything. Yeah, at the time Tiger Woods became Tiger Woods,
• 42:25
  there was— the greatest of all time wasn't currently in
• 42:28
  golf. That, that is arguable.
• 42:31
  Who, who was it? Because, because it was Arnold Palmer to everyone,
• 42:35
  and Jack Nicklaus. And Jack Nicklaus at this point was way past
• 42:39
  Jack Nicklaus. Not way past, it could not have been that long.
• 42:42
  It could not have been. Was he already on the senior tour at that point?
• 42:45
  Yes, but like, it wasn't like— it wasn't like he had like— it was from
• 42:48
  the 1970s. He was like— he had like stopped winning titles.
• 42:52
  '90s. It was the '90s when Tiger started winning.
• 42:55
  At that point, like, the number one golfer was like fucking Greg Norman.
• 43:02
  I just told you Jack Nicklaus was still alive and proximate
• 43:06
  to being the best— the best golfer that we'd ever seen.
• 43:09
  Yes, I'm agreeing with you, but I'm— Angel,
• 43:12
  my point is A'ja Wilson's going to win 3 more fucking MVPs.
• 43:17
  We are still in the midst of the best female basketball player of all time.
• 43:21
  What does that have to do with my point? My— your
• 43:24
  point is that we think we're— let me understand this,
• 43:28
  like, so we can have a conversation, so we can like not be mad at
• 43:31
  each other. I'm not mad at you. I feel like you're mad. I'm not mad
• 43:33
  at you. I would, I would tell you if I was mad. You put your
• 43:35
  hand in your face and said, I need to talk to a Black woman.
• 43:37
  And I'm not that. I'm like the antithesis of it. No, I don't. I know.
• 43:40
  I genuinely think that, like, you guys, I think that it's really, really hard to
• 43:44
  talk about women as athletes to men for a lot of reasons. And I think
• 43:47
  part of the reason is because trying to, like, trying to,
• 43:51
  to get into the nuance of what greatness means in a
• 43:56
  women's league, like, you're always going to kind of reduce it down to,
• 43:59
  okay, but Right? Like, we already have— we have this, that, and the other.
• 44:03
  And I don't think you do it on purpose, and I don't think anybody who
• 44:06
  does it is like being a dick. Like, I certainly don't think you're being a
• 44:08
  dick, but I do think that there's a lack of, of nuance. And we,
• 44:11
  we run into this all the time. We talk about NBA players, NFL players,
• 44:14
  where it's just like we're not allowed to like to move with
• 44:18
  fluidity through these conversations, right? Right. So like,
• 44:21
  so this is how I see it, and maybe this is going to be completely
• 44:24
  lost on you— and not lost on you because because you don't understand.
• 44:28
  Lost on you because it's very clear I'm not able to explain this properly.
• 44:32
  But I— the reason why I'm saying this is at the time when Tiger
• 44:36
  Woods was coming up, it was— I consider that more of a dead period of,
• 44:40
  of male golf. Jack Nicklaus was no longer the
• 44:44
  Jack Nicklaus of old. He was already in the Senior Tour. And now this newcomer
• 44:48
  Tiger Woods takes over and wins fucking everything, and now he's the fucking GOAT
• 44:51
  in real time, right? But why, why do we need it to be that exact—
• 44:56
  you're probably right, but my issue is I, I need people to fucking
• 45:00
  know who A'ja Wilson is right now. Yeah. And I need
• 45:04
  that to happen because she's gonna win like 3 more MVPs. They do not
• 45:08
  enough. Sure. Um, but also there, you know,
• 45:11
  we have been through— we've been through this before where, um,
• 45:15
  you know, the— at the time the league— when
• 45:19
  Magic Johnson and Larry Bird made the NBA profitable.
• 45:22
  Yes. Right. When they made them There was a bunch of people our age
• 45:27
  in the '80s being like, have none of you ever fucking heard of Moses Malone?
• 45:30
  You are right. Ever fucking heard of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? Yes,
• 45:34
  but it's the same thing. You think
• 45:38
  so? Those two are like playing it. I'm not saying she's better than Asia.
• 45:43
  Neither Magic Johnson wasn't better than the players they were talking about either. He became
• 45:47
  better, of course, but he became better. Right?
• 45:50
  But at the time, if had they said it, they'd have been right.
• 45:53
  Bill Russell had 11 rings. You're right, 11 rings.
• 45:57
  And they were like, finally something to watch, right? Fucking right.
• 46:01
  Stupid. You're right, he's the GOAT. You and I— Asia's nuts.
• 46:05
  Insane in a conversation outside of
• 46:09
  like normal greatness at this point. And I firmly
• 46:12
  believe she's gonna win more. I'm thinking about— we're talking about like some watching
• 46:16
  someone's come into their stardom. I know that. I mean, that I
• 46:20
  will never agree with. This is rocketing. No question.
• 46:23
  She is fucking— I firmly believe, by the way, I do think part of
• 46:27
  this is like that I— and something that is different from her and Asia is
• 46:30
  like Angel just has like an X-factor personality.
• 46:35
  She does. That first of all, Asia's super lovely, which by the way, no,
• 46:37
  Asia's lovely, but she doesn't have what Angel— she does not have what Angel possesses.
• 46:40
  Angel's like gonna be a crossover Like,
• 46:45
  you know, she's— we have some of those stars. We have like Peyton
• 46:48
  Manning, people who are like good at everything that they do
• 46:52
  outside of their sport. That's Angel. Yeah. And on top
• 46:56
  of that, we're watching her take over a WNBA
• 47:01
  Finals where people were very hesitant
• 47:05
  to say that she was one of the best players in the league before this.
• 47:07
  She's going to come out of it Finals MVP if they keep doing this.
• 47:10
  No question. They win this series, she's Finals MVP. It's not even a fucking question.
• 47:13
  And I've already said how excited I am for the white panic over her winning
• 47:16
  a title before. You were like, get ready for the— get ready for the white
• 47:20
  panic, it's gonna be funny. I was just about to have a white panic when
• 47:23
  you were talking about Angel. I was like, he's not getting what I'm saying.
• 47:25
  And I was, I was having white panic. I'm not getting what you're saying because
• 47:28
  the, the comp you're— it's even in the chat because I feel like clearly
• 47:33
  I'm not explaining this well. Um, uh, Phoenix Reign says, why can't
• 47:37
  they both be great? Uh, why does one have to be over the other?
• 47:39
  I completely agree, completely agree. The conversation I was having
• 47:43
  was she was saying like coming into the basically the GOAT conversation,
• 47:48
  like the first steps. This could be that. Absolutely.
• 47:51
  My issue is with the other comps is they weren't playing in the exact
• 47:55
  era of their respected GOAT. And in my opinion,
• 47:59
  WNBA, but there's the GOAT is Asia. There is again,
• 48:02
  the GOAT is also still under debate in WNBA. Fair. Like that's actually very
• 48:06
  much under debate. Are people debating Asia versus Diana Taurasi?
• 48:10
  Exists. Yeah, like there's— now granted, right now it—
• 48:14
  I, I don't know how I make a case for anyone that does—
• 48:18
  that's not Asia, in my opinion. But that's new, man. Like,
• 48:21
  this happened really fast. Asia won these MVPs really fast. We've been like
• 48:25
  trying to catch up with the fact that Asia's— so I'm fine with calling
• 48:29
  Asia the GOAT. I would call Asia the GOAT. But there are some people who
• 48:32
  are not ready to have that conversation yet, just like people aren't ready to have
• 48:35
  that conversation around LeBron. What do we got?
• 48:39
  Cody. Cody. I, I specified because she wanted to make sure she—
• 48:43
  oh, it's ladies, it's JJ. Yeah, the comp is Derek Jeter.
• 48:48
  I thought that was funny. The comp for Angel? I, I don't know who the
• 48:52
  comp she's talking about, but it made me laugh either way. I think it's— but
• 48:54
  I think she's talking about Angel. I think she's talking about Angel. Yeah,
• 48:58
  I think so too. I, I don't, I don't like Derek Jeter, so I don't
• 49:02
  want it to be Derek Jeter. Yeah, that's, um Big Poppy? Oh,
• 49:06
  I don't know, because— no, because like, she's— the
• 49:09
  way that Poppy came on, like, it took a while for Poppy to become what
• 49:13
  he was. Like, she's been an all-star, one of the best defenders since she was
• 49:16
  a rookie. Like, yeah, you know what I mean? She just had those twins ears.
• 49:20
  Yeah, yeah. Listen, I, I fucking love Angel Reese.
• 49:23
  Yeah, like, period, stop. I fucking love Angel Reese. Can't get enough of her.
• 49:26
  I think she's the badass. Yeah,
• 49:29
  no, I mean, we both— we're both big fans, and I just It's just wild.
• 49:33
  Oh, it's the comp for Angel. Derek Jeter. Yeah, it's the comp for Angel.
• 49:36
  So I mean, like, she's better than Derek Jeter was. I see. Like,
• 49:40
  Derek was amazing. That's the thing is I think Derek Jeter's overrated. I think so
• 49:43
  too. I like— I'm like, oh, like, Derek won the rings, but Derek was— Derek
• 49:47
  of his generation was a part of a 3-shortstop era.
• 49:51
  He was the 3rd best of those shortstops. Definitely not better than Nomar.
• 49:54
  Nomar was better, and so was A-Rod. I mean, yeah,
• 49:58
  and so was— and yeah, Defensively, not offensively.
• 50:02
  Omar Vizquel. Okay, well, there you go. Unfortunately, Jay, today we refuse to do this
• 50:07
  with you. But one of them was on the Yankees, so he got the rings.
• 50:11
  Yeah. So you came around. I think that, like, there's, there's certain topics
• 50:15
  that are just, like, so hard. It's so hard for me when I feel
• 50:18
  so passionately. I don't ride for athletes. So when
• 50:22
  I really, really do, I think it's like I get so worked up
• 50:26
  because I'm like, you don't understand what I'm saying. It's like, not your fault.
• 50:29
  But I will say I'm very spoiled by a community of Black women to talk
• 50:34
  about WNBA with, and it's not the same with anyone else. Not even you.
• 50:39
  Meaty corner.
• 50:43
  That actually is— I'm not going to lie to you— the most hurtful thing you've
• 50:46
  ever said. That you're not as fucking— that, like, that you're not a
• 50:50
  Black woman. I know we all— it was the not even you statement.
• 50:54
  I know that actually that hit me in a spot I wasn't prepared for.
• 50:58
  Where was it? Where did it hit you? A dead
• 51:01
  part of my heart that I just didn't realize might
• 51:06
  have had some life in it. Oh my God. Now you— now you
• 51:10
  know it's dead. I see, I see. Um, well, if you'd like to feel worse,
• 51:14
  let's talk about Kirk Herbstreit. Fuck. Um, this actually
• 51:17
  is— this is a non-laughing matter. This really fucking
• 51:21
  sucks. Um, Kirk Herbstreit
• 51:25
  is facing criticism for referring to Caleb Williams as a bucking bronco.
• 51:31
  We are going to play the soundbite of the video for you.
• 51:34
  If you could do that, Cody, I think
• 51:37
  that would be great. Thank you.
• 51:41
  I mean, when he first got here, Caleb Williams was like a bucking bronco.
• 51:45
  He needed to be trained and needed to be taught how to play within
• 51:51
  structure. You know, it was the one thing about Caleb Williams, dynamic playmaker in college
• 51:54
  and in his first year here, but he was a little reckless. You know,
• 51:56
  he didn't make the easy play. Now in his second year, Ben Johnson, he's much
• 52:01
  more refined in how he plays the position. And let's, let's be
• 52:05
  honest here. I mean, when he first got here, Caleb Williams was like a bucking
• 52:08
  bronco. He needed to be trained and needed to be taught
• 52:12
  how to play.
• 52:15
  That kind of, that kind of language around a
• 52:20
  Black quarterback, um, any quarterback quite honestly,
• 52:24
  but the fact— I mean, we, we have to recognize that it
• 52:27
  only ever speaks this way about Black quarterbacks with it around
• 52:31
  the history of the deep, deep racism and the constant
• 52:35
  discussion of Black athletes and Black quarterbacks as
• 52:39
  raw talent that needs to be like violently
• 52:44
  whipped into shape is— it's— we're not fishing
• 52:48
  here. This is not dog whistling. This is outright,
• 52:52
  straight up fucking KKK-level racism.
• 52:56
  Like, I'm sorry, but I am at the point now where
• 53:00
  the stuff that comes out of Kirk's mouth has been dog whistles. This is
• 53:04
  straight out of a fucking Tarantino movie. And I'm— I am
• 53:08
  not kidding. He needs to be pulled off air. Like, this guy needs to be
• 53:11
  fucking off air. This is the kind of shit that
• 53:16
  you need to be fucking pulled off air for. We have
• 53:20
  pulled dudes off of national radio shows for less,
• 53:23
  have we not? Yes,
• 53:27
  I am. I can't— I'm— are
• 53:32
  we fucking kidding? Like, is this a joke? This isn't the first. This isn't even
• 53:35
  the first time Herb Street has said something eye-raising about— like, is this a fucking
• 53:38
  joke in 2024? He got into uncomfortable territory speculating
• 53:42
  whether Williams had the discipline to be the first guy in, last guy out type
• 53:46
  of quarterback, then quickly admitted he hadn't heard anything to suggest he wasn't.
• 53:51
  I would like to congratulate Dan Orlovsky.
• 53:56
  Dan, there's way worse than you. I mean,
• 53:59
  don't worry, give Dan time, he might get to there. You might, but right now,
• 54:03
  at some point, they're gonna— right now, take this guy's place, and this one's
• 54:06
  fucking Taking the fucking championship directly
• 54:11
  off your shoulder. This is— Cody, do you think that he should be pulled off
• 54:14
  air? Fucking yes. Yeah. Yeah. Describing Caleb
• 54:18
  Williams as a wild animal that needs to be fucking whipped into shape. Yeah.
• 54:21
  You fucking think in today's day and age, like, what fucking earth
• 54:25
  am I on? By the way, he won the game handedly, by the way.
• 54:29
  He's— he's got a fucking completion percentage over 80%.
• 54:32
  He had a fucking passer rating of like 120 yesterday.
• 54:36
  What the fuck? I would like to— I want to tell you,
• 54:39
  it's happening. It's— this is so fucking wild too, because Caleb came
• 54:43
  in more pro-ready than Justin
• 54:47
  Herbert and Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield and all these other dudes. He came in
• 54:50
  more pro-ready than Drake Maye, and I
• 54:54
  have never heard any of those dudes talked about
• 54:57
  this explicitly. It's disgusting. It makes
• 55:01
  me so fucking Sick. Like,
• 55:05
  I— Kirk is Kirk. And we said this
• 55:09
  in one of our— I said this in, in one of the videos that went
• 55:11
  viral where we were talking about like just how insidious the racism is and,
• 55:15
  and how people will like use specific language,
• 55:18
  right? Remember that video? And I said most people
• 55:21
  outside of Kirk Herbstreit aren't doing it like they don't know
• 55:25
  they're racist. Yeah, they'll just say the word quarterback included. Kirk Herbstreit
• 55:30
  for a reason. He's, he's in like
• 55:34
  a, at this point, a proud racist, which is wild because that guy is putting
• 55:37
  so much fucking tanner on his fucking weird-ass face. Yeah, he seems to be so
• 55:42
  like horrified by his melanin deficiency but
• 55:46
  perfectly happy to be a fucking racist toward everybody. He'll paint himself,
• 55:49
  but yeah, borderline. Oh my God,
• 55:53
  I'm so tired. I'm so tired
• 55:57
  of the dog whistling and the bullshit that we're constantly calling
• 56:00
  out. But to hear somebody spoken like
• 56:04
  this, especially— we're talking about, we've been dealing with all this stuff around Jalen
• 56:08
  Hurts. Yeah, the medical malpractice. Yeah, talking about how
• 56:12
  much medical racism there really is. Do you know how many fucking DMs
• 56:17
  and comments I've gotten this week alone from Black people
• 56:21
  who've been like, this is what I've experienced, this is what I've experienced as a
• 56:24
  doctor with Black patients, this is what I've experienced as a, as a Black person
• 56:27
  with blood clots or with whatever else, this is what my wife or my daughter
• 56:31
  or my whatever experienced. It is horrifying all the
• 56:35
  time. And now Jalen Hurts is dealing with being dehumanized by
• 56:39
  the NFL, and then this motherfucker goes on television
• 56:43
  to say this about another Black man. I am so fucking done.
• 56:46
  I really hope Kirk Herbstreit never— I really hope,
• 56:50
  for his sake, we're never in the same room. So, here's the deal. Like,
• 56:52
  um, you and I, like, have, like— I'll say,
• 56:56
  like, 4 weeks ago got called out, and I'm using air quotes,
• 56:59
  'cause we weren't really called out. We were right, and this guy's a shithook.
• 57:04
  Um, like, for being so woke because
• 57:07
  we call everything racist. No, we call the racist shit racist.
• 57:11
  Um, It's been, like, so fucking glaring
• 57:16
  lately. Like, it's not— We're past dog whistles.
• 57:19
  Like, we're way past dog whistles. We got the president,
• 57:23
  like, defending an ad from fucking Vivek
• 57:27
  Ramaswamy, uh, like glorifying the sexual assault
• 57:32
  of her opponent as a child. Mmhmm. Like,
• 57:35
  we're in fucking— We're in hell. Op— like such
• 57:39
  times that like, if this happened
• 57:42
  to your friend in high school, you would have beaten the fuck out of all
• 57:46
  of these people if you had a remote soul in you.
• 57:49
  Like everything you were taught was right. Everything you
• 57:54
  know is right and wrong. All these people just do wrong shit
• 57:57
  and they're getting like somehow rewarded. Like this is a batshit
• 58:01
  world we're currently in and I don't know what the fuck to say about it.
• 58:04
  It's fucking nasty and it's gross. And the racism towards Black quarterbacks
• 58:08
  and Black athletes right now is so outrageously
• 58:12
  through the fucking roof that I don't think dog whistle is
• 58:16
  a fair assessment. No, it's just straight up racist comments
• 58:20
  is what they are. And like, it's almost cartoonishly—
• 58:24
  it seems like something that the racist white coach
• 58:28
  would have said in a like 1990s
• 58:33
  sports movie playing a racist white coach. Like, that's how racist it is. It sounds
• 58:37
  cartoonish. It sounds like something that,
• 58:41
  like, you know, one of those motherfuckers would have been scripted to say to
• 58:45
  show what, you know, white dudes during segregation
• 58:49
  were like. Truly. And it's really upsetting because I just had so much respect for
• 58:53
  Kurt Hertzfeldt before this. You did? No, motherfucker.
• 58:57
  I was like, I thought you were saying like, like 15 years ago or something.
• 59:00
  That was sarcasm and a joke, and it was funny.
• 59:03
  Um, on the flip side, uh, somebody who
• 59:07
  I, I generally am, am okay with,
• 59:10
  uh, I'm not saying I always— I like Nick Wright. I'm not saying I always
• 59:14
  agree with his takes, but I do— I can say I like him, that I
• 59:18
  do actually think Nick Wright operates in good faith more
• 59:23
  than most people on sports television. I would agree with that. And so my
• 59:28
  whole thing is, if I think you're operating in good faith and occasionally you do
• 59:31
  some like gig, you know, some, some bits, some gags,
• 59:34
  you do your thing, you, you do the fucking Mahomes thing. He wades
• 59:39
  into shady territory being a little overly critical about Lamar Jackson
• 59:43
  because Lamar is like the biggest threat to Mahomes being like the best
• 59:47
  quarterback, whatever. Yeah. And so he— I've got my, my gripes, but overall I do
• 59:51
  think he generally operates in good faith. He called out the media, um,
• 59:54
  on his show for Angel Reese coverage, unfair Angel Reese
• 59:58
  coverage. And his thing is like, he doesn't normally— these guys
• 1:00:02
  don't normally wade into like talking shit about the rest of the media. They leave
• 1:00:05
  that to Stephen A. Smith and us apparently. But, um,
• 1:00:09
  he said this: sports media needs to decide whether it wants to cover
• 1:00:12
  the WNBA or not. First of all, I don't like the or not.
• 1:00:16
  There's no or not. We're covering the WNBA. I'm gonna get his point.
• 1:00:19
  Here's what I mean. This show, we are a vast majority an NFL and NBA
• 1:00:23
  show. Baseball playoffs, a little college football here and there. But what we don't do
• 1:00:26
  is be like, oh, did a Black player foul Caitlin Clark hard? Let's put that
• 1:00:30
  in the show. Enes Kanter making a fool of himself again? Let's lead with that.
• 1:00:34
  Some shows are doing that. That's fine. If you're one of those shows, then maybe
• 1:00:38
  pay attention to the actual basketball that's going on in the Finals right now,
• 1:00:40
  because it's pretty good. In men's basketball, no matter what your regular season
• 1:00:44
  standing is, if you're one of the best players but clearly not the best player,
• 1:00:46
  and then in the playoffs you're clearly the best player and you lead your team
• 1:00:49
  to a championship, It raises your standing dramatically. There, um, he says if
• 1:00:53
  you're gonna cover the sport for the gory kind of culture war stuff, then actually
• 1:00:57
  cover the sport when someone who's been a main character of your culture war
• 1:01:01
  stuff is playing great basketball. I think Angel Reese deserves a ton of credit.
• 1:01:05
  I agree with that, with one caveat, with one major caveat. Yeah.
• 1:01:09
  Um, no, I agree with everything. You're right, cover Angel Reese, cover the WNBA,
• 1:01:13
  and especially if you're fucking doing anything with the culture war shit. But in
• 1:01:17
  the same breath, if you can't sit here with a straight face
• 1:01:21
  and say you're not going to talk about the— if you want to like take
• 1:01:24
  the high road, then you should talk about the Enes Kanter stuff. And you know
• 1:01:28
  what you should do? Fucking stick your fucking flag in the ground and say,
• 1:01:31
  no, fuck this motherfucker, and be on the right side of that and then go
• 1:01:35
  on to talk about the actual game. That's what I think you should do,
• 1:01:37
  because if you're not going to talk about any of it, then you're actually making
• 1:01:40
  all of it kind of inert. Yes, I— that's— I'm glad to hear you say
• 1:01:44
  that we're on the same page. Yeah, that was also my exact critique, which is
• 1:01:47
  that like, it's actually like, I agree that
• 1:01:51
  the critique is fair. He's not wrong. But also, you are—
• 1:01:56
  you are also part of the problem. Yes. By saying we don't even really talk
• 1:02:00
  about WNBA, so no big deal. So you're letting everyone else talk about the WNBA
• 1:02:03
  this way and you're not fixing the problem. And you, in this respect,
• 1:02:07
  you can Do your part and fix the fucking problem. We ran into this
• 1:02:11
  with Bill Simmons too. We did it where he was like, essentially like, why is
• 1:02:15
  no one talking about Olivia Miles? And it's like, you can't— like, Nick can't come
• 1:02:19
  on and be like, why won't you guys talk about Angel Reese if you're going
• 1:02:22
  to talk about Caitlin Clark? When like Nick won't talk about Angel Reese and the
• 1:02:26
  WNBA. Yeah, my answer is either why aren't you doing it? Like,
• 1:02:29
  it's like every— all these dudes are passing the buck and
• 1:02:33
  it's like they act like their hands are tied behind their back. They're like,
• 1:02:36
  we just must only talk about NFL. We gotta talk about Mahomes.
• 1:02:40
  Like, you and I cover during the NFL season, we lead into
• 1:02:43
  the show almost every show with NFL. We're not idiots. We— they—
• 1:02:47
  my bread and butter is NFL. My bread and butter is NFL.
• 1:02:50
  You know what I do to— I supplement that with throwing
• 1:02:54
  in WNBA when I can and talking about the big stories. We're never going
• 1:02:58
  to be WNBA beat reporters unless they want to, you know, pay me, whatever,
• 1:03:01
  I'll be there. But, uh, we also— like, I also do a ton
• 1:03:05
  of engaging about WNBA on Threads and on other parts of social
• 1:03:09
  media. I consume it that way. And that way I'm staying, you know, my— with
• 1:03:13
  my fingers on the pulse. These guys aren't fucking doing that. That's my— that's my
• 1:03:16
  only issue. Like, like, because I agree with what Nick is saying, but also you'd
• 1:03:20
  be like, you guys aren't doing enough. Yeah, motherfucker.
• 1:03:23
  What are you doing? Yeah, exactly. Motherfucker. What are you doing? Talk about it then.
• 1:03:27
  Like, fucking talk about it. But also those other things that
• 1:03:31
  are the culture war stories, you can talk about those and you can talk about
• 1:03:35
  where you are on that. And then give the context,
• 1:03:38
  because I know where you are on that. I know for a fact you fucking
• 1:03:40
  think this guy's an ass clown like we think he's a fucking ass clown.
• 1:03:44
  You can bring that up and dunk on this motherfucker and then talk about how
• 1:03:47
  great Angel Reese is. You're not doing any of that. So giving the
• 1:03:51
  criticism to other people is a bit disingenuous to me. Me, even on my fucking,
• 1:03:56
  fucking run-of-the-mill radio morning show, I try to sneak these in as
• 1:03:59
  much as I fucking humanly can. By the way, our,
• 1:04:03
  our Gen X friend JJ, She put in the chat, and I
• 1:04:07
  think this might have been when we were talking— it could have been on either
• 1:04:09
  of these segments— but she said, I did not survive the Cold War and my
• 1:04:12
  existential dread of dying in nuclear war for this bullshit.
• 1:04:15
  I agree. I think that every day. I'm sorry you did though. And like,
• 1:04:19
  the reality is like, that's like what's so frustrating about both of these topics is
• 1:04:23
  like, we just go in circles around the same shit
• 1:04:27
  over and over. And like, one is truly a piece
• 1:04:30
  of shit that I wish would would never get back on television again. The other
• 1:04:33
  one is someone I really like who I think is genuinely talented and works really—
• 1:04:36
  Nick Wright works hard and does good work, sort of like absolving himself.
• 1:04:41
  But that's where conversation— then get in the conversation. And he got himself into it,
• 1:04:44
  whatever. But it's like, no, get on TV on, on Monday after
• 1:04:49
  Game 4 on Saturday. Get on TV and talk about the ball you just watched.
• 1:04:53
  Teach people how to watch this sport in this league. Throw it
• 1:04:56
  in the You can throw it at the top of the D-block. I'm not— I,
• 1:04:59
  I, again, I'm, I'm old school. I still understand how this works.
• 1:05:03
  I don't want you to lose ratings over this. I want you to build it
• 1:05:05
  in so people slowly start to expect these conversations to
• 1:05:09
  happen, just like we do here, because I'm a great producer.
• 1:05:13
  You are. And I've been— Tanya does produce this show. I did.
• 1:05:17
  You saw my— you reposted my thing just shit-talking today.
• 1:05:20
  Like, went— I did my, my monthly Give my resume to a troll.
• 1:05:25
  I, um, it's so good. I try to repost it every time you do it.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, yeah, it's one of my favorite pastimes. Yeah, my girls were very— all
• 1:05:32
  my people on Threads were very supportive of that one. I'm, um, when Tanya
• 1:05:37
  womansplains to a fucking worthless
• 1:05:40
  guy. Yeah, it's just— yeah,
• 1:05:44
  it's so great too because they're like, oh, you just fucking hate men, blah blah.
• 1:05:47
  And I'm like, I mean, yeah, but that's not the point. And the thing is,
• 1:05:50
  it's like I— she tolerates me. It's all— it's not all
• 1:05:54
  men, right? It's like you could just— because the men who I
• 1:05:59
  like get it when I tell them I hate men. Oh, by the
• 1:06:03
  way, Tyrone. Tyrone, what's up? Tyrone, go to fucking bed.
• 1:06:07
  I love you, by the way. Tyrone Johnson. They don't watch or
• 1:06:10
  talk about it and just use it when it's convenient for the
• 1:06:14
  clicks. I agree. It's net positive, though, because it shows the attention is
• 1:06:18
  there. It's— it shows it's happening, but happening
• 1:06:22
  too slow. Yeah, great. Like, 100% agree.
• 1:06:25
  Tyrone Johnson, by the way, those of you that don't know, Tyrone Johnson is
• 1:06:29
  like one of the most talented fucking guys in this industry and one of the
• 1:06:32
  best dudes. We love him. Fucking— I was friends with him before I even knew
• 1:06:36
  you knew him from social media. Like, I got lucky. We were introduced
• 1:06:39
  by Craig Carton. Yeah, well, because— which is funny because like the 2 people
• 1:06:43
  in the world that disagree with Craig Carton's takes more than anyone is me and
• 1:06:46
  Tyron Johnson. And Craig knows I don't like him.
• 1:06:50
  Craig's like, you're talking shit about me again. It's so great.
• 1:06:53
  You know, this is what makes the world go round. It does. You know,
• 1:06:57
  is people being just adjacent enough to people I like that I, that I
• 1:07:01
  will tolerate their existence. I mean, I assumed when I first ever messaged
• 1:07:06
  you, you probably just knew I was associated with Craig, so you didn't respond for
• 1:07:08
  like 6 months. I didn't because I didn't recognize you. Like, But I
• 1:07:13
  know, but that was the whole thing was like when you were on the Carton
• 1:07:15
  Show, I like forgot that was you. Yeah, I know. Well, I didn't look the
• 1:07:19
  same. Well, I looked the same but different. You looked— it's not like once I
• 1:07:22
  figured out, I was like, oh yeah, of course that was him. But my brain
• 1:07:25
  wasn't connecting it at the time. Fair. Like, well, like I didn't even know me
• 1:07:28
  on that show. I was allowed to talk 10% of the time. That's actually a
• 1:07:31
  real directive I got. I also was always— when I was working there and you
• 1:07:34
  were doing your show in New York, you were in LA. I was in LA.
• 1:07:37
  Yeah, I never had the crossover. We never— and I also never— your show was
• 1:07:40
  at the ass crack of— I wasn't watching that show. Shit. Like, I never fucking
• 1:07:43
  watched it. Trust me, I wouldn't have either. Yeah, I was like— I was
• 1:07:47
  on the back end of the day. I knew what it was. I was on
• 1:07:51
  the back end of the day. I was appreciative, but it was just like,
• 1:07:53
  this is fucking— I'm not watching this. Yeah, and it— and,
• 1:07:57
  and, uh, and at the time it really was like I was fighting a lot
• 1:08:01
  of battles on like the fronts I already had. So, uh,
• 1:08:05
  I'm glad I didn't have to deal with Craig. Craig was actually— no, Craig was
• 1:08:08
  actually so easy to work with. Um, well, I, I mean that like of the
• 1:08:12
  people I've worked with, like he was so easy. Well, especially because like that's the
• 1:08:15
  thing is I would not have had any, um, patience because I
• 1:08:19
  had to deal with everybody on Speak outside of Joy, who I liked. Speak was—
• 1:08:21
  I can only imagine. Like, no, the people that were a
• 1:08:25
  nightmare to work with there, none of them named Craig. The, the, the people— not
• 1:08:29
  even a single person named— not a single person named Craig. Like all the people
• 1:08:33
  named Craig on that show was joy to work with. No, I think it was—
• 1:08:35
  I'm sure Craig's nice. It was the people. He's never been— it
• 1:08:39
  was Ty Johnson News. Fuck, it was Zach. Fuck Zach. Ty goes, appreciate y'all.
• 1:08:43
  He's never been correct.
• 1:08:47
  I mean, he hasn't. Uh,
• 1:08:51
  love him the same though. No, but, uh, Phoenix Rain 2.0 said, uh, ESPN loves
• 1:08:55
  to delay reporting on Angels achievements. Yeah, that's like the thing is like they're just
• 1:08:59
  not even reporting. No, no, like they'll mention it out No, actually, that's true.
• 1:09:01
  You know why? Because I watched fucking SportsCenter driving into work today,
• 1:09:04
  right? Yeah, I always like— SportsCenter will do it. So, but here's the thing,
• 1:09:08
  it was in today— today, okay,
• 1:09:12
  no World Series game, only a Thursday Night Football game, right? A couple NBA games.
• 1:09:15
  It was the fucking 5th thing that came up. Not even the first segment,
• 1:09:19
  it was the second segment. See, this is what I'm saying. And I didn't like
• 1:09:22
  that because ESPN is fucking entrenched in the WNBA, and it wasn't
• 1:09:26
  until the second segment of fucking SportsCenter AM that
• 1:09:31
  I got a fucking WWE. Insane. Just letting you know that, like, that's just facts.
• 1:09:35
  I hate it here. She— but I'm telling you, she's undeniable.
• 1:09:39
  She will not be denied. No, I agree with you. I'm just telling you my
• 1:09:42
  experience this morning because when I drive into
• 1:09:46
  the morning show at like 4:30 to 4:45, I just put
• 1:09:49
  on SportsCenter on like YouTube TV. Yeah, it's connected to my car and I just
• 1:09:52
  listen to SportsCenter. They didn't fucking even get— just to like remind myself, waiting for
• 1:09:56
  it and you're like, it didn't happen until after a commercial break. So on
• 1:10:00
  fucking Friday morning SportsCenter where there's nothing fucking happened.
• 1:10:04
  I mean, there are, there are like truly,
• 1:10:07
  I know this and this is again because
• 1:10:11
  the media sucks. Most people I know
• 1:10:15
  who don't watch sports, if you ask them a WNBA player, they know
• 1:10:18
  Caitlin Clark or Angel Reese. Yes. That's it. That's who
• 1:10:22
  they know. They don't know Paige Beckers. They don't know Asia. Who knew this?
• 1:10:25
  This is actually really cool. Avery Sports Show says, for the record, TSN SportsCenter
• 1:10:30
  up here has been doing a great job and specified it great at covering
• 1:10:34
  WME Finals on Canadian TV. Kia Nurse as an analyst.
• 1:10:38
  Oh, I would. I would fucking love to see that. Must be nice.
• 1:10:41
  I'm not going to lie to you. We're not getting that here. We're not.
• 1:10:43
  And it's fucking— it's a shame. It's a legit shame.
• 1:10:47
  She said I'll send y'all VPNs. That's right, I have a— I have a VPN.
• 1:10:51
  I had one. You got to have a VPN. Well, I used it for porn.
• 1:10:54
  What? They don't catch on to it with your full
• 1:10:57
  transparency? They don't need— you don't need it for what you use. It was years
• 1:11:01
  ago. You use DVDs? I did
• 1:11:04
  use DVDs. I had a place
• 1:11:08
  called Odyssey Video that I used to go to on Wilshire Boulevard when I was
• 1:11:11
  in college. Got my Got, got the old porn DVDs. So I— my first
• 1:11:15
  job was at a video store, and when I was like 14,
• 1:11:19
  my mom's friend owned the local video store in, in Cedarville,
• 1:11:23
  Massachusetts. Was there like a— was there a beaded section? It— there absolutely was.
• 1:11:26
  Oh my God. So it was behind the counter. Rental or
• 1:11:30
  non-rental? What do you mean? Was it like a buying or rental spot?
• 1:11:33
  Rental. Okay, right. It was like a mom-and-pop— it was a mom-and-pop
• 1:11:37
  Blockbuster called Home Video. Same deal as just like literally
• 1:11:41
  a standalone little wooden building. And that's
• 1:11:45
  where I worked. And we sold like snacks and just like a, just like a
• 1:11:50
  Blockbuster, but, you know, whatever. And yes, they absolutely— I was
• 1:11:54
  a teenage girl who had to occasionally
• 1:11:58
  usually take returns.
• 1:12:04
  What? What was the worst thing you saw? There had to be one like just
• 1:12:08
  horrible. I'm not gonna lie, if I— if there was, I blocked it out.
• 1:12:11
  Okay. Yeah, if there was, I blocked it. They probably all actually— looking back,
• 1:12:15
  thinking about it now, they were in public, they were probably so fucking nice
• 1:12:18
  and borderline embarrassed. Yeah, well, that's the thing is like usually no one would—
• 1:12:22
  they probably rented 5 movies and they were always like— it was just like,
• 1:12:26
  oh, Shawshank! Oh, Goodfellas! Oh,
• 1:12:31
  New Jack City. Oh, Backdoor Sluts 4. Oh,
• 1:12:35
  what? Backdoor Sluts. God, it's a classic. But you have
• 1:12:40
  to see 4 if you're— that's the best one. Before you see
• 1:12:43
  5, you have to see— well, you don't have to see— it's like the Fast
• 1:12:46
  and Furious trilogy. Yeah, exactly. Saga. It's like the Fast Saga. Well, there is,
• 1:12:49
  uh, the Tokyo Drift. They call it the Sluts Saga. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:12:53
  Tokyo Drift. Yeah, Tokyo Drift. Backdoor— that's the 3rd one. But guess
• 1:12:58
  what? It's a prequel, yet it was the third released.
• 1:13:01
  Backdoor Slots 3, not Tokyo Drift.
• 1:13:05
  Exactly. Which was also the same thing. Who knew?
• 1:13:08
  Fucking parallels. By the way, I'm surprised. This is sort of like— this
• 1:13:13
  kind of ties into the, like, James Dolan sending a phishing scam to— oh yeah,
• 1:13:16
  like whatever. Where it's like, what a piece of shit, huh? I— there
• 1:13:21
  were people defending it. Anyone that defended that, fuck you. You're the
• 1:13:24
  worst. I was like, how can you fucking defend this? I couldn't— you're embarrassing—
• 1:13:29
  believe it. They were like, I've worked for a corporation for a little while,
• 1:13:32
  and actually, this is actually a regular thing that they do to teach
• 1:13:35
  their, uh, employees not to— I was like,
• 1:13:38
  no, it's not. No, it's not. No, no, no. I've also
• 1:13:41
  worked for corporations, and no, them baiting you
• 1:13:45
  into thinking you're getting— if I got that email, I'm going into
• 1:13:49
  my boss's office, I'm throwing my fucking laptop at his fucking head.
• 1:13:53
  Like, do you guys not understand? You guys are fucking insane. They are egotistical
• 1:13:57
  nightmares. They literally treat us like, like we
• 1:14:01
  are, we are peasants to them. We are peasants.
• 1:14:05
  And he literally was like, hey, stupid peasants.
• 1:14:09
  And you guys, you're still defending him. This is why you and I are never
• 1:14:13
  going to break through the people who don't want a salary cap, because they literally
• 1:14:16
  think billionaires are fine and they are Billionaires are constantly looking
• 1:14:20
  at us being like, we don't think you're real. We don't care about your lives.
• 1:14:24
  We don't care if you live or die. They actually say this out loud.
• 1:14:26
  Like, I really hope I'm in a room with a billionaire one day.
• 1:14:30
  Just me and him. I really want that.
• 1:14:34
  I would— what I would give to be in a room alone with Elon Musk.
• 1:14:37
  Oh my God. I would— I would never.
• 1:14:41
  That's scary. No, it's not. It would be. Yeah, it would be scary.
• 1:14:45
  Yeah. Not for me. Because your whole body is hard and muscly. You could beat
• 1:14:48
  him up. I'm scared. I could beat— you can beat him up.
• 1:14:52
  You're right. Are you fucking kidding me? I could beat him up. You're right.
• 1:14:55
  Unquestionably, you could beat the living fuck
• 1:14:59
  out of Elon Musk. But he— if
• 1:15:03
  he's on ketamine, you don't know, because he could have that weird drugged up— I
• 1:15:06
  want him on it. I'll give him all the ketamine he wants. I want him
• 1:15:08
  to have that drugged up strength. Give, give, take. He can inject himself
• 1:15:12
  with the fucking Hulk serum. I don't give Fuck. You guys don't understand,
• 1:15:16
  Cody is so jacked. Like, I know he looks
• 1:15:20
  jacked, but like, it's— it's— his whole body is like hard.
• 1:15:24
  No, so here's the thing, that's why I also wear the glasses. You got to
• 1:15:27
  understand, tattoos, uh, beard, bald— listen,
• 1:15:32
  I, I know what I look like. I'm aware. Aware.
• 1:15:36
  You— what did you say the other day? You look like you— you, you were—
• 1:15:38
  you were trying to say that I was attractive, and I said no, I'm not.
• 1:15:41
  People, when I walk in the room, he's like, no, when you walk in the
• 1:15:44
  room, people turn heads. Yes, because they're trying to— they think I'm getting
• 1:15:48
  ready to storm the Capitol. Yeah, I was saying, no, people notice you. Like,
• 1:15:51
  when we're out and about, people are looking, and you're like, yeah, because they think
• 1:15:53
  I'm gonna storm the Capitol. That's what they think. They look at me like,
• 1:15:56
  ah, motherfucker, fucking Proud Boys are in town, fuck. But I'm not.
• 1:16:00
  I'm exactly the opposite. I just look like it. I know someday I'm gonna be
• 1:16:03
  out and someone's gonna be like, I saw Tiny Ray Fox with a white supremacist.
• 1:16:06
  No, he was a Jew. They're like,
• 1:16:10
  well, they're after him too. Sometimes it's hard to tell these days. I mean,
• 1:16:14
  that is true. But no, don't let the— don't let the, the, the, the,
• 1:16:18
  the, the, the baggy threads fool you. Daddy's jacked. Yeah, I just— he's hiding
• 1:16:22
  it really well. But he could definitely— we could all— we could both definitely beat
• 1:16:27
  up Elon Musk. I would actually— I would— it would be like one of those
• 1:16:30
  videos. I mean, we could beat up Mark Zuckerberg for sure.
• 1:16:33
  Yeah. I mean, he's easy. Well, me, he's not even— you can do it.
• 1:16:36
  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. We Like, I mean, I don't
• 1:16:39
  think there's a billionaire— is there a billionaire out there that's— oh, Steve Ballmer seems
• 1:16:43
  like he could be hard to take down. You know what, he's got some reach.
• 1:16:45
  He's a bit tall, and I've seen him dance. He does that weird, like,
• 1:16:48
  there's like a lot of limbs going a lot of directions. I think I could
• 1:16:52
  end Robert Kraft with what, like, with a one switch? Would take nothing. He would
• 1:16:56
  turn into dust. Like, blow him like a dandelion. He would turn into literal fucking
• 1:17:00
  dust. So that's same with Terry Jones. Oh God, all the old ones.
• 1:17:03
  Skeletor. Yeah, with Fucking weird. Are there any like jacked billionaires?
• 1:17:07
  I can't think of any. Are we missing a jacked billionaire,
• 1:17:11
  guys? Guys, can you think of a jacked billionaire? The only billionaire I don't want
• 1:17:13
  to beat up is— is Dana White a billionaire? He might be.
• 1:17:18
  He seems like pretty jacked. He's pretty jacked, but he's not as big as you
• 1:17:21
  think. No, he's short. He's— he's— him and Joe Rogan are both short, right?
• 1:17:25
  No, no. So he's not— he's not short, but he's not tall either.
• 1:17:29
  Joe Rogan's short. Yeah, he's like Joe Rogan's fucking right here.
• 1:17:32
  5'6. Um, he's— no, like, I, I remember when I met
• 1:17:36
  Dana, he was almost exact. He was similar to my— I'm bigger than him,
• 1:17:40
  but he's like my size. So you— but do you think you could beat up
• 1:17:43
  Dana White? Yes. Okay. All right, well then I think that's talking about— well,
• 1:17:46
  I don't, I don't know. I haven't seen him. You're the one who's seen him.
• 1:17:48
  I was asking you. I bought— I, I box. Okay, I'm so sorry.
• 1:17:52
  Very strong. And oh my God, no, you could definitely— you could literally beat up
• 1:17:56
  anyone, Cody. I could— no, that's not true. No, you could totally beat up anybody.
• 1:17:59
  Beat people up. And also, to beat me, you have to kill
• 1:18:03
  me. That's actually probably true. If he's gonna do—
• 1:18:07
  go out, if I'm gonna fight you, I'm fighting you to the death. Um,
• 1:18:10
  no, we've been totally normal. I don't fight. I don't want to fight. Fighting's stupid.
• 1:18:14
  Um, the— I'm really proud of everybody who showed up for this very late
• 1:18:18
  show, by the way. Like, I'm actually blown away with the people that showed up.
• 1:18:21
  Oh my God, Juanita said you do have a little bit of a J6 look
• 1:18:25
  to you, Cody. I do. I know. I'm sorry, dude. I can't— that's— it's not
• 1:18:29
  me though. You have to understand. Is it
• 1:18:32
  Janita or Juanita? Uh, Juanita. Juanita.
• 1:18:36
  Yeah, this is— this— this is my dad's doing. Like,
• 1:18:40
  actually, take it back, it's my mom's doing. My mom allowed my father
• 1:18:45
  to have a child with her, and now this is what I look like.
• 1:18:48
  Yeah, it's fucking dog shit. Yeah, it's awful. Nobody likes it. Everybody hates
• 1:18:53
  it. She said I was January 6th-y. That's,
• 1:18:56
  that's not great, but, but it's before
• 1:19:00
  people get to know you. As soon as you open your mouth,
• 1:19:04
  it's very clear. Which is what I always hope when, when, when, when my love
• 1:19:08
  talks to her parents. What is he like? He looks January 6th-y,
• 1:19:12
  but once you get to know him— once you get to know him, um,
• 1:19:16
  just so you know, Avery said, um, that the that you don't have
• 1:19:20
  a chance against The Rock if he becomes a billionaire. So I think we agree
• 1:19:23
  with that. He's much taller. He's very big. That's the thing. He's like 6'5 and
• 1:19:26
  like— no, he's like 6'3, but I mean, that's enough. He's big. No, but he's
• 1:19:30
  small though. He's thin now. He's not fucking thin enough for you to beat him
• 1:19:34
  up, Cody. Come on. He's pretty small. He's old. He's old. He is getting old.
• 1:19:38
  Uh-oh. Hold on. Uh-oh. Hold on. Cena?
• 1:19:42
  My— I don't think Cena could fight. He's from
• 1:19:46
  Massachusetts, of course he can fight. Oh, you know what, good point. He is a
• 1:19:49
  Boston guy. Yeah, he probably could fight. No, he scrapped. He definitely scrapped as a
• 1:19:52
  kid. I mean, do you remember how he used to act when he was younger?
• 1:19:55
  But he used to— oh, you're right, the old fucking— yeah,
• 1:19:58
  that like, yeah, like Southie Wahlberg vibe, you know? Yeah, yeah, he definitely,
• 1:20:03
  he definitely did. I actually don't— I'm not positive that like,
• 1:20:06
  that like— he was actually a really good rapper, by the way. Like kind of
• 1:20:10
  underappreciated because there is a I actually have a John Cena song in
• 1:20:14
  my iTunes. Yeah. It's called Bad Man. It's actually a good fucking jammin' song.
• 1:20:19
  There was a good Shaq rap song when we were younger, too. Was there?
• 1:20:21
  Really? I can't remember what it was, but I didn't hate it. It wasn't as
• 1:20:24
  good as Cena's, I don't think, but I do remember that. Uh, we were going
• 1:20:28
  through a phase where our most famous people were rapping.
• 1:20:32
  Not that badly, either. Yeah. Some of 'em. Oh,
• 1:20:36
  well, yeah, some were— Well, Aaron Pierre is obviously the best. There's Pierre.
• 1:20:40
  He was— that pivot was elite. Thank God he
• 1:20:44
  went into acting. That being said, speak up, speak up. It's my
• 1:20:48
  favorite. Yeah, no, it's really good. He's really good. And now I miss— now
• 1:20:51
  I miss John. I want Lanterns back. All right, well, we did it. We did
• 1:20:55
  it, guys. Late night show. And by the way, just truly, I mean this from
• 1:20:59
  the bottom of my heart, uh, what a phenomenal turnout
• 1:21:03
  tonight. Yeah, like, uh, obviously not our biggest turnout,
• 1:21:07
  but like the turnout that we had tonight, we didn't deserve,
• 1:21:10
  especially starting as late as we did. And a lot of you people are on
• 1:21:13
  the East Coast that decided to join us really late night. So guys,
• 1:21:17
  fucking love you. Yeah, we, we noticed everybody
• 1:21:22
  who showed up tonight and it does not go unappreciated.
• 1:21:26
  Um, Cody and I, we, we're loyal. Yeah, you guys
• 1:21:29
  are gonna find out. And we, um, we're, we're now like we're
• 1:21:33
  just embarking on a new, um, kind of— stuff's
• 1:21:38
  happening— a new kind of segment for our show.
• 1:21:42
  Like, we're gonna start doing some new shit that I'm really excited about.
• 1:21:46
  And, um, guys, uh, the pirate ship is gonna
• 1:21:50
  continue. Once we have income from this show, you guys have no idea what we're
• 1:21:53
  gonna be doing. It's gonna be great. And we are there, we're there. We are
• 1:21:56
  officially— send it to people. We've got ads stuff now. We've got,
• 1:21:59
  you know, um, subscriptions, whatever. So we haven't done it yet,
• 1:22:03
  but we've talked about maybe a store of some kind. Maybe we do have some
• 1:22:07
  merch out. We gotta get some merch out. We do. Um, that might be a
• 1:22:09
  2027 launch type thing, post-holiday, whatever. But merch has gotta
• 1:22:14
  happen, 100%. But, uh, guys, you know what we will do too? What's up?
• 1:22:17
  Subscribers and sort of our OGs definitely get a say on some
• 1:22:21
  merch. Oh no, you guys, in terms of like even us making it, like what
• 1:22:24
  what you guys want. Uh, cannot stress this enough. And we want you to be
• 1:22:28
  a part of all of it. Like, truly, like, Tanya is the
• 1:22:31
  actual producer of this show, but kind of so are you guys as well.
• 1:22:35
  Yeah, absolutely. We, um, we're, we're spoiled.
• 1:22:39
  We, we love this and we love you guys. And, you know, this is the
• 1:22:42
  best. And we mildly tolerate each other, so everything's going well.
• 1:22:45
  Yeah, I wouldn't— I would never tell you that you're my favorite fucking
• 1:22:49
  person. No, you'd never tell me that. I would, I would just have to infer
• 1:22:53
  it somehow. I would never. I can tell you right now what doesn't make
• 1:22:57
  me feel like your favorite. Um, is he dead? Nope.
• 1:23:00
  He's alive? He's still alive. Until then, until he's dead.
• 1:23:04
  Fuck Kurt Schilling. Fuck Kurt Schilling. My shirt's wet.