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Trek us, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast. Hey, ladies and
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gentlemen, welcome to Trek Cast, the galaxy of both Unpredictable Star Trek podcast
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and with me today is uh Daniel Reyes. And apparently we also have Dan
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Lobardo. Apparently what do you mean? Apparently? What happened with us?
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As always? What's a little late to the party there? Uh, I
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don't know what you're talking about? The whole time? Is the quote that
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Dan says, Dan never arrives late or or early. He arrives precisely.
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I think I said the show starts when I get here. I think that's
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right. All right, Okay, you said that from your trailer as you
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slammed the door. Yeah, well, I knew we were coming at you
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from Michigan and Idaho. I just didn't know if we were coming at you
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from New York yet. What are we doing here? Oh? Yeah,
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we're we're here to discuss season five, episode six, another prime directive.
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Screw up? I think that was the episode name. That's right, And
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uh, Daniel, you got some Star Trek news for us, We got
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some listener feedback. So yeah, hey, with your with your audio,
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Scott, you're cracking crackling a lot, Am I crackling? Huh oh yeah,
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huh, how we shound it out? Still there? Let me uh,
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let me resett. Yeah, I'll get started on the news in the
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meantime. Or he's talking smack about being on time, but he's unprepared.
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That's right. I came in, I'm good to go, came in just
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the time. I'm good to go. Positive thoughts and feedback, remember positive
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thoughts of yeah, it's almost over. I actually liked the episode this week.
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It's like when you're on that roller coaster that you're not like it and
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you're like, this is the last lap. Okay, just hold on,
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just hold on. That's that's yeah, we're almost there. Got that side,
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got that side pain from running too much and yep yep, yeah fair
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enough. Yeah, all right, Well let's get to the news. Yeah,
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do it Strews. All right, Well, we're waiting on Scott.
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Our first news story. It's kind of more or less an update on what's
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going on with Paramounts. So we've had a couple of news stories. There's
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been a lot of news stories actually about it. But Yahoo Finance did a
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really good kind of like overview of what's going on with it. So basically,
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on Friday, the exclusive negotiating window between Paramount and and sky Dance ended
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right with no deals struck. So currently Paramount is still for sale. We
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don't have a buyer yet. At that time though, Sony and Apollo made
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it known that they would give a last and final offer of twenty six billion
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dollars for Paramount. The reason why Sony is partnering with Apollo is because of
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federal regulations and apparently CBS cannot be owned by a foreign company, so Apollo
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would technically own CBS, whereas Sony, being a foreign company, could then
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own the rest of the studio. So that's why that's going. But it
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is expected that that offer of twenty six billion dollar will be rejected. Right,
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wow, So so then what's going to happen? Right? Yeah?
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So, so recently Paramount kicked their CEO to the curb and announced the office
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of the CEO where they have three people in charge. Oh that always makes
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things better, right, three people doing the java one first, three three
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captains, three captains exactly exactly. So they're going to run by parliament,
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so that'll work. Yeah, And and nobody really knows, and so the
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the only way to because here's the thing, because they're a publicly traded company,
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they have what they call fiduciary responsibility to maximize investors' profits. Right,
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So the the only thing that Wall Street says that that Paramount could do to
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at least a piece of vestors is to do some sort of merger, at
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least streaming wise with Comcast a KA Peacock. So we'll see, Yeah,
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everything is up in the air. So let me ask you this. Yeah,
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because another thing that that that happens in these situations sometimes they start selling
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off assets, right, Star Trek. Star Trek is an asset, So
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I guess, I guess I'll ask each of you do we care who owns
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it? Now? I don't I do in that I want to see improvements
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in the franchise, So I would hope that the new owner is somebody with
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a proven record of success. But everything, Oh no, yeah, maybe
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a misunderstood me. I mean I probably know. I think I asked that
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room. Do we care if Paramount is not the one to own it?
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Actually? Of course, of course we want, of course we want whoever
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owns it to do good things with it, but right, I don't think
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it in my heart of hearts, I'm not like it has to stay with
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Paramount. Paramount has this legacy of start Yeah no, no, no,
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I mean we went through this with with with twentieth Century Fox and Star Wars,
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right, dar Trek has deep roots of not beings of going into syndication.
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I mean yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, Alejandra says,
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as long as the new owner doesn't screw over the Start Trek franchise, yeah,
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basically absolutely. Yeah. So am I still crackling? You are?
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Yeah? I wonder if you're I wonder if your headset is giving up the
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ghost. That's what I'm wondering too. Yeah, so I'm gonna try a
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slightly different setup. That's the Internet's the Let me try something else. Okay,
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sounds good? All right? So oh yeah, so so yeah,
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so that's where we're at. We don't know what's gonna happen, and there
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could be a potential some sort of combining of Peacock and Paramount plus Okay,
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sure, I mean yeah, we don't know. Ye cock Mount, Yes,
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the cock Mount could be coming, you know, beware all right,
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And then our next news story comes to us from Comic Book Movie or Comic
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book dot Com and they have a recap of the latest episode of The Ready
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Room with Will Wheaton and on their Alex Kurtzman himself was on the episode.
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I did watch the episode because I suffer for the people, and it was
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Yes, it was about a ten minute interview about all the latest and what's
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going on with Star Trek. I thought it was really funny that they did
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keep saying that Star Trek is expanding as they're getting rid of shows as their
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kids shows, right right. Yeah. It's also interesting is that they listed
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all the shows that have come out since Discovery and did not mention Prodigy.
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So Prodigy is like officially that we do not speak about it. Yeah.
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Yeah, so that's that's kind of fun. Also, one other thing that
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was interesting that Kurtsman brought up is that he does not want to tell stories
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in the Star Trek franchise unless they have something to say. He doesn't want
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to retread ground, which a lot of fans are interpreting as that is your
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confirmation that Legacy is never going to happen, So because Legacy would be retreading
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ground. So it is funny if you go look at the comments on that
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Will Wheaten post it is nothing but either save lower decks or we want legacy.
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There's over one hundred comments on it. I read all of them and
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only two of them are supportive of Discovery. You know what's funny? Yeah?
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So what was the quote? Quote? We don't want to tell stories
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that have already been told, right, we don't want to retread, retread
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stories. Yeah, ok, yeah, your most popular show, Strange New
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Worlds, is exactly that. Yeah, we're going to go back to a
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ship that we've all seen before, where half the crew we've already seen them,
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half the stories, we know how they end. And it's the most
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popular thing you have. So what are we talking about here? I know,
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I know, yeah, yeah. The most popular season of the card
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was the one where they went, let's let's go back to the old formula,
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let's bring funny back in, go back to the old formula, tell
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a little bit more of these stories that that we've already touched on. And
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it was the most popular season by far out of all three. So get
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your head out of your butt, man mine, are you talking to me?
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Yes? Yes, that's right. No, you we say put it
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back in. You do your best come back in Yeah, okay, how
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about now that much better? Much better? Sound? You sound great,
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you look blurry. We got to choose from one, and since a podcast,
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there are people who listen but don't watch. There's nobody that watches but
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doesn't listen. So I guess this is the best is the best setup,
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This is the best set up. And then our last new story much rather
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woul Yeah, sorry, go ahead, no good, go ahead good.
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I was gonna say everybody, that's you'd much rather listen to me than look
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at me, that's for sure. There you go. And then our last
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new story club to us from star Trek dot com. And you can see
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the picture there if you're watching with us. Uh. They have changed the
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name at one of the Pinewood studios in Toronto to officially the Star Trek Stage.
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It's the location where they currently shoot Discovery. Let me see if I
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can get a bigger yeah. So there they are. There's the cast standing
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out in front of the giant sign that says the Star Trek Stage on it.
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So so when I see photos like this, behind the scenes photos when
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they're in costume and whatnot, I can't help. I can't help, but
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look for things like, hey, we can only see Tilly's head. Does
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she have a big, gaping stab wound that they don't want us to see?
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Right right, right, right? So yeah, you know, I
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thought that was kind of cool. It's a it's a fun, little feel
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good so yeah. But yeah, that's that's all the news stories. And
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I also look for feet. That's right. I want to see him with
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normal feet. Robert is saying hello from the UK. He didn't really like
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this week's episode of Discovery. Also on from last week. Have you had
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sausage rules in America? No, they don't have him in Idaho. I'll
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tell you that. What's what's the sausage roll? Yeah? What's a sausage
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roll? Yeah, Robert, you're gonna have to tell us what a sausage
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roll is because we have imaginations. Yeah, I mean, is that a
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sausage that you put on a roll? Because I mean we got I mean,
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that's it's a roll that's made out of sausage. Wait a minute,
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I was just gonna say a sausage on a roll as a hot dog,
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which is also a sandwich by the way, No, no no, no,
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no, no, no no no. The bun is made out of
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the meat and then you put like a roll inside of it. Oh like
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when when KFC did the thing where they're like, we're gonna make a sandwich
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but the bread is chicken. Yeah yeah maybe. Oh so okay, fun
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KFC story. Okay, if you got a minute, I don't think I've
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ever heard that story. So, you know how there's you know how there's
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stuff here that we we think is uh, there's like foods here that we
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think are cultural significant where they came from, but they're really not. Like
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Fortune cookies aren't really Chinese, and nobody in Mexico cares about single to Mayo
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and stuff like that. Yeah, okay, So apparently everyone in Japan is
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under the impression that Americans eat fried chicken on Christmas. Yeah, it's a
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thing over It's a huge thing over there, like around Christmas. Like they
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celebrate Christmas in Japan, but they don't celebrate any of the religious aspect of
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it. It's it's one commercial Christmas. Santa Claus, rut Al, Frosty
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the Snowman, and apparently KFC fried chicken because because the guy who opened the
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first KFC franchise in Japan just on a radio interview years ago just say oh
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yeah, Americans the fried chicken on Christmas Day and boom it just blew up.
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So they have like the Christmas KFC bucket. It's just oh wow,
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yeah that's amazing. Look Scott, he's still likes. He's like, see
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what flights they have December twenty second, We're going, look how family is
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the day before Christmas. I'm gonna have to get some KFC so I can
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eat it on Christmas. Yeah. Yeah, oh you don't want old KFC,
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man, you need that day old KFC. Yeah, you need that
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fresh from the heat lamp. Yeah, I did, can't see. I
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like fried chicken every once in a while. Saush is meat wrapped in puffy
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pastry and then cooked. I'm down. Yeah it's KFC cast yep, I'm
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down. Another KFC story. Worst KFC I've ever been to was in Kentucky.
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You can't have can't have too many? Really? How is that?
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I was d We drove through Kentucky. We stopped at a Kentucky Fried Chicken
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because we were in Kentucky. Not impressed. Yeah, so the the Sbarro's
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in New York are as bad as anywhere else, just so you know.
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Yeah, They're awful everywhere. How they exist as a franchise I do not
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know, but yeah, we had one at the mall. They went out
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of business. My yeah, I love that part of the office where Michael
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Scott's in New York. I caught that New York pizza. Meanwhile, in
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Idaho, the The Olive Garden is voted number one Italian restaurant here every year
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Italian. Not sure, Yeah, so hey, don't don't. I can
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tell you try their unlimited soup salad bred stakes. That pretty good. That
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is pretty good. Oh well, should we get to our main topic.
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We could just keep talking about food. We could we do that a lot
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anyway. I'm down with that. Yeah, we absolutely do that. All
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right, I guess, I guess go ahead. Fun will now come out.
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I want to share my I want to share my star Trelly experience.
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Ye, my belly, my big belly, Star Trek the Experience t shirt
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from Las Vegas Hilton from twenty the day is he started eight April May thirteenth
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of two thousand and two, is when I got the shirt. I'm going
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to try to feature a new shirt every every Trek cast until everyone now nice
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Daniel, he missed. He missed Paul's Yeah, just goes so bad.
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The program was just about food. Now, So I we have a I
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have a tote, Scott. I have a tote full of T shirts from
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Star Trek the Experience, because I was there three weeks before they closed and
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I just oh, man, eye everything I could get my hands on.
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Some of them still have the tags on them. I don't think I,
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oh my wore them. Yeah, yeah, that's shirt. I was a
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younger man back then and a smaller I was also a smaller man back then.
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I mean, that's why I'm wearing the shirt over it, because this
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is a It doesn't exactly cover up my entire stomach. The truth is,
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the truth is he cut the back. He cut up the back like a
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hospital gown. There you go, there you go. You know, if
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truth be told, I'm not going to show you because that'd be awkward.
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But it's it's got a whole bunch of holes in it from years of being
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stored in the moths and everything. But yeah, I figured, I just
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I had one. I had. I wore it forever and eventually it became
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my yard work T shirt because I didn't want to throw it away, but
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it was the one where it had KALs on the front and instead of remember
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those T shirts like twenty years ago, Jesus is my yeah by whatever it
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said, Kayless is my Kayless is my co pilot. And people have no
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idea to be like, what the hell is it? What is that?
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What is it? Collins? What's up? What that guy's head? It's
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weird. You got a weird religion, dude, Yeah, that's what next
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time the Mormons come by, that's what you should say. I worship k
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Chaos. I worship Kayless. Ye all I hear is Payless the entire time.
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It feels good to kaos the one true warrior shoes at a bargain.
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You know something I prefer over uh uh Kentucky Fried chicken is Lee's famous recipe.
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I'm sorry, I'm trying to delay as I can. What's Lee's I
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don't know Lee's famous. Yeah, it's uh, it's it's probably a local
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uh or a regional thing. It's it's like Kentucky Fried chicken, only it's
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good. It's really good. Okay. So have you guys ever been to
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uh a Denny's. Yeah, not in a long time, not since I
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was in college. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I going out of
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business. No, yeah, that's what I heard. I I was watching
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TikTok and it's like, yeah, I was watching TikTok. One of those
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videos. Top five restaurants that are going out of business in twenty twenty four.
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The best thing about Denny's is the side of spite you get with every
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meal. Son's Denny's hack for anyone who's still does there. The bourbon chicken
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skillet is delicious and what you can do a lot of people don't realize this.
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You could tell them before you bring this to the table, could you
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please dump it off of the skillet and onto a regular plate so I don't
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have to eat lava for the next twenty five minutes. If you just wait
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for it to cool down. Nice, You're gonna You're gonna be there all
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night, right right, and and if you get it with a banana strawberry
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smoothie twos all the way. I would like to go to waffle I will
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be testing for my black belt in about a year and then, uh then
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I think I'll be ready for waffle House. Until then, I'll just stick
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to the Dennys. Do you know there's a there's an online petition. I
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forget the game. I think it's techan where they have made jokes that waffle
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house should be a setting in teching, so you can have a waffle house
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fighting stage. Nice and like the the guys who run the game are like,
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yeah, we'll do it if we can get the license. Yeah,
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that sounds great. There's gotta be like an unlocked tech is still a franchise.
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Yeah, Tecan is still a franchise, But what they want is the
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actual logo on there, So I'm sure, right, yeah, all right?
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So I mean this week's episode, episode six, season five, Whistles
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Speak Uh. The official log line is, while undercover in a pre work
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society, Captain Burnham is forced to consider breaking the prime directive when a local
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language Dan, that's right. Meanwhile, Car tries to Stamas and Adira sets
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up, uh steps up when Rayner assigns them a position on the bridge.
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So there you go. I mean, I I liked the episode. I
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thought it was all right for for what it is. You know, it
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was well Dan summed up exactly how he felt while you were uh yeah,
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yeah, give me the synopsis of the episode. I only watched it once
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it's a lot of foul language, a lot of whistling. I only watched
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it once and I could not stay off my phone while I was watching it.
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Same here, it's one of the first episodes of Star Trek where I
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was playing with my phone while I was watching. Yeah, yep, yep.
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And because of that, like I can't recall on the top of my
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head why I didn't like it. I'm gonna have to wait until you guys
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talk about things and go, oh, yeah, that was garbage, and
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then I'll tell you. I'll tell you why it's garbage. Yeah. So
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it's not that I'm unprepared, it's and I just don't care. It's not
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that I'm lazy that I just don't care. Yeah, I thought it was
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an interesting To me, it felt the most Star Trek that Discovery has made
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has been not I mean, that's a low bar, but to me,
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I mean, it was a mission. They were on a planet. They
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were there to do something, you know, to figure out the next clue.
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They interacted with that society at first, they very much tried to stick
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to the prime directive. It reminded me a lot of when Jane Way would
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go to planets dance to shaking his head. Now, I don't think it
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was the best, but I think from what it is, I thought it
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was all right, you know. To me, it felt like the writers
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had stumbled up across an episode of Trek cast from two and a half years
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ago, and they were like, oh, they want more Star Trek like
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episodes, Well, let's just rehash something Star Trek ish then, And so
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if they're gonna they're gonna do a prime directive episode. Obviously there's a pattern
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too, a prime directive episode. First they try not to interfere, and
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then they try to justify why they should interfere, and then they interfere,
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right, which, as I mean, that's every that's every I was thinking
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about Wharf's Brothers episode. I was thinking about the the Archery Vulcan. Vulcan's
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episode. Uh yeah, where they shot car was no, no, no,
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they didn't shoot a card pick card let them shoot him. Took a
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took a shot to the chest to try and do the right thing. Yeah,
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which is the opposite of what they were doing here. The card is
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like me, me dying is more important than these people thinking that I'm a
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god and having it change their society. Forever. So you know what,
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I'm a responsible Starfleet officer. Shoot me in the chest. Yeah, I'm
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gonna I'm gonna die to prove this point. Whereas instead this was this was
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this was the opposite. I know they're not God's It's just a machine.
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Yeah, Michael Michael burs a God. Yeah. I did like the shout
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out to the Danobians. I thought that was cool. I saw a meme
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where it was like, uh, I guess, so we're going to Denbula.
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No, oh yeah, let's mention them. And then another another example
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of them. Right when I when I Jesus Christ, I thought they couldn't.
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I thought they couldn't right themselves further into a corner. Right, that's
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what I thought. I said, They've written themselves as far into a corner
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as they could. Nope, Nope, they went even further. This week
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they said, hey, here's a great idea. Your try quarter. Is
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it your eyeball. Yes. You don't need to touch anything, you don't
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need to motion in the air anymore. It's it appears in front of you
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a heads up display no one else, no one else can see it.
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You can move the cursor with your eyeball. It's perfect. And then they
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accidentally take a poison pill before the run. Why didn't you look at it?
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Yeah, just look at it. Just look at it. I mean,
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my daughter is four years old and one thing that I have instilled in
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her is don't put ship in your mouth. You starfleet officers. These are
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starfleet officers, And it's like, oh, I should I should, I
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should put this in my mouth. Sure, let me put this. Oh
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no, I'm joking right right. And they're not even the same species,
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so who knows how it can affect them. Yeah, apparently they didn't watch
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that episode of Deep Sace nine where they they poison themselves on Tarak Nora with
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a a pill. That's what I That's what it reminded me of that.
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And Okay, so now I'm rummy. I'm running through the woods on my
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alien death race. All I need, all I needed to cure myself as
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a drink of water, if I only had a replicator on my wrist to
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replicate I don't know, some hydrogen atoms, some oxygen atoms, right,
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just replicate them right in your mouth, the most basic substance in the universe.
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It's so bad. Maybe maybe the replicators can't make food. They can
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make phasers, but not food or water. During the race scene, I
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thought it was they can make hydrogen, and they can make oxygen, they
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can make water. Okay, okay, true. I thought it was funny
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during the race scene that thinking about the person who had to go and fill
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up all the bowls along the race. Yeah, that's your job. Yeah,
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does that person get to drink? Yeah? Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
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because it's heavy carrying water and then especially up a mountain. Yeah.
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And then right, and and somebody somebody posted in the group they said,
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the most unbelievable part of this episode is that Tilly won the goddamn race.
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Yeah, okay, Can I come to her defense? No, please,
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Yes, I'm gonna come to Tilly's defense, And then I'll tell you what
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I think that is feasible because she recently second season. Yeah, we saw
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a running once in the second season, but she's also at the academy and
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she's an instructor. Now. I know, she doesn't look like she's a
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marathon runner. But I saw a lot of people in the military who started
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out. They would start out a certain size and then they would kind of
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stay that size, maybe get a little bit smaller, but their athleticism would
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increase threefold. So it is possible, I think for somebody her size to
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go from you know, not being able to run to being able to run
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because you're your your lung capacity, your your your cardiovascular system is going to
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improve faster than your body shape. Is that's true, I agree to some
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extent. However, she is racing against a race of people who walk everywhere
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and she and she has a device in her everyday life where she beams across
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the room to get a snack. Okay, it's just not realistic. Yeah,
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sure it's not. Maybe, yeah, maybe we're losing Star's. We're
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losing them. We're losing them. All we heard was this is what we
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heard Scotward. Oh no, yeah. I did think the whistling too,
29:49
is a little bit weird because they're like, oh listen, not that yet,
29:53
and that played like one time in the beginning, and then that was
29:56
never brought up again. Yeah that was like okay, yeah, yeah,
30:03
it was an interesting idea that they they Maybe I misunderstood it, but they
30:08
have basically two languages, the one they speak to each other and the one
30:11
they yell across distances. Right, is that kind of more or less all
30:17
right, But I understood that more as like, okay, when they're whistling,
30:19
it's more like signals, you know. It's not like, hey,
30:23
so go take out the trash when I get home, and you're not that
30:27
in depth, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it also
30:33
had some allegory to religion. Well it wasn't really an allegory. They straight
30:37
up said things. Yeah, yeah, this actor looked familiar to me too,
30:44
the main guy. I don't know where he's from, but I feel
30:47
like I've seen him in other things. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
30:51
is Scott frozen or is he just sitting really still? I think he's
30:53
frozen. Yeah, I think he is too. Yeah, and now and
31:00
that he's going, Oh, I put him away until he moves again,
31:04
put him away. I put him away. Yeah, that's right. So
31:10
what did you think of the doctor's holographic grandma. I think it is a
31:22
natural evolution to the whole EMH project. You would create some sort of therapeutic
31:29
holograms that that made sense to me. But I think because he made exactly
31:36
his grandma and he was like, yes, just like talking to her,
31:38
that I don't think is healthy that's not healthy at all. Right, so
31:44
that was my one concern. Now, had he created a doctor Frasier Crane,
31:51
you know, therapist who says I'm listening and let's talk. That makes
31:55
more sense to me. Yeah, yeah, that was That was kind of
32:01
disturbing. Yeah, it's right up there with Berkley making his friends. Yes,
32:08
yes, I think it's worse. Yeah, it is worse. I
32:12
think it's worse. And the fact that, well, did he tell anyone
32:16
about it? I don't. I don't recall he was reporting to somebody.
32:21
He's like, oh, yeah, the program is working like this, and
32:24
yeah he gave a quick report. It kind of makes me think about the
32:30
I don't know if you know about these things. They make therapeutic chatbots nowadays,
32:35
where you can talk to it and it responds back to you, okay,
32:38
and it's supposed yeah, like they're free programs that people use, and
32:42
they've even had ones now that are relationship based, so you could have a
32:47
texting relationship with your digital girlfriend. And what's even worse is they use AI
32:55
so that she can send you photos. Oh god. Yeah, that is
33:00
a real thing that you can download on apps right now, and it's the
33:06
equivalent in my book, oh strungber ay there, Oh no, never mind.
33:14
So yeah, it's not healthy. It's not healthy. It's not healthy
33:20
at all. No, you guys, not to sound judgy, but it's
33:28
weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's weird. I I did like
33:36
though that, you know, the doctor is like, look, I'm confused
33:39
by what I'm feeling right now after going through this experience. So I don't
33:44
know how to tell Paul like that to me is real because sometimes you go
33:46
through things and you're like, look, I don't even know what I'm how
33:50
to feel right now, but something's going on that I didn't you know that
33:54
I liked there is Hey can you hear me? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
34:00
yeah, okay, sorry about the super unprofessional Yeah, thank you.
34:07
Yeah, I'm Scott's strongbeerd boutters. These are my co host, Dandy Daniel.
34:15
Yeah. And then we had the right Yeah. Oh, I was
34:19
gonna ask Scott real quick, uh what did you think of the uh the
34:24
e g H. The holographic grandma. Yeah, the emergency holographic grandma.
34:30
That is not healthy, right, Yeah, I mean I can imagine,
34:38
like with holographic technology period, I can imagine all therapists like, if you're
34:43
a you know, somebody who lose your spouse, the first thing a therapist,
34:45
I would imagine would tell you is don't recreate them. Yeah. Yeah,
34:52
it's the only thing. Yeah, Like that's awful. Yeah, that's
34:55
a horrible, horrible form of therapy. I think. I don't know.
35:00
Yeah, So if your holographic grandma replicates an ill fitting sweater that you hate,
35:06
do you still have to wear it only when you're out the holiday?
35:10
Only when you holy? You only have to wear it on Christmas? What
35:14
are your grandma's here that you can just you wear that sweater and eat KFC.
35:20
Okay, let's do this. Who would you holographically recreate and spend an
35:25
afternoon with, let's say, famous people? Not not what am I supposed
35:31
to say? Jesus, that's right right? It is Sunday, the Lord's
35:36
Day, famous people. So no relatives unless you want to be unhealthy.
35:43
Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to know. No bad idea,
35:45
but famous people. It'd be really cool to talk to Gene Roddenberry.
35:52
Yeah, that'd be cool and get his take on on this. On Star
35:58
Trek you believe the ship, Yeah, until you find out he loves Discovery.
36:08
Okay, Grandpa, Yeah you're going, Oh, they found my secret
36:15
writings. Yes, exactly what I wanted. How's that DRAPAA dude? Well,
36:22
yeah, it's on the air, right, I don't I don't know
36:32
who. I don't know who i'd recreate on the holiday. That's tough.
36:38
Yeah, that's really tough. I'm gonna go with Tesla. I think it'd
36:43
be interesting to talk to that guy. He seems like a weird dude.
36:46
So how fantasy is this? Because we have we don't have any We've got
36:52
audio recordings of Nikola Tesla, right, I'm sure no video of Nikola Tesla
36:59
and some rights of his right. Screw it. I know what I do.
37:02
The Muppets. I'm gonna hang out with the Muppets. Oh yeah,
37:07
Jim Henson, No, no, no, the Muppets, No, no,
37:09
the actual Muppets. He's yeah, Father Bear Kermit. Let's all hang
37:15
out. Let's have a wacky adventure on the holiday. Okay, the Muppets.
37:21
Yeah, if the computer could figure it out, because, like you
37:23
know, with with with Tesla, I was thinking George Washington, But how
37:27
accurate could the computer be with George Washington? We don't know what he sounded
37:30
like. We don't know what his inflections were, We don't know what kind
37:34
of accent we had. We don't know, you know, what his speech
37:37
pattern would be, what his behavioral pattern would be. We've just got these
37:40
these documents that are you know, old. So that's an interesting thought.
37:47
I wonder if he did like lose a British accent because he wasn't born in
37:53
England, right, he was born in the US. No, but British
37:57
people that live here don't lose their accents that quickly. I don't know.
38:02
I think about like, you know, my dad has an accent I don't
38:07
like, yeah, you know, like compared to his right right, well,
38:12
and some people are more susceptible that, Like, you know, you
38:15
put me in Minnesota or Florida for five hours and I sound like I've lived
38:21
there my entire life. You know, I'm like, have you tried this,
38:24
KFC? Don't you know? It's really good? You know? Wow?
38:29
Wow? I just I slip right into it. That's right. You
38:34
can start making cast roles for us and everything. That's right. Yeah,
38:39
I'll become a Minnesota dad real quick. Yeah, perfect, perfect. Yeah.
38:47
So well, we've got four more episodes left of Discovery, Dan and
38:53
I will be seeing the last. Yeah. You know, at first I
38:59
was I'm disappointed. I'm not gonna be with you guys. But when you
39:04
and Dan watched this episode, Okay, Daniel, you gotta get some you
39:08
gotta do a quick reaction, but you gotta get some shots of Dan watching
39:13
this episode where he's just like, what what? Oh jeez? Wait,
39:19
yeah, what the what the Oh? This is bull crap. I thought
39:23
about setting up a camera as we're watching it, the Dan cam, Dan
39:29
cam. Yeah, yeah, I may have to do that. That sounds
39:35
great, Actually yeah, yeah, m hmmm. So what else? Did
39:40
what else happened in this episode? Do we leave anything out? Oh?
39:46
Wow? What this this guy here on screen? The priest guy? Yeah,
40:00
the dad and and yes, and his uh child who ran in the
40:08
race, who wanted to die apparently who wanted to die? And then without
40:15
any explanation whatsoever, he's using the them pronouns for this person. Where where
40:24
did that come from? I don't know. Maybe that's did they say they
40:31
had three genders on that, Yes, three distinct genders, So maybe that's
40:37
where that came from. They did, Yeah, and she sounded quite proud
40:45
to say it too. She was like, they've got three distinct genders.
40:47
I must have missed that, and I just thought only three, all right,
40:52
Yeah, okay, so I thought, well, all right, I
40:54
thought the the they then pronouns just came out of nowhere with you were on
41:00
your shoulder, not paying attention. I was probably on my phone not paying
41:04
attention. You're right, yeah, you're right, all right. He was
41:08
checking his only Dan's account. So all right. So in their defense,
41:12
it's bad writing. It's not awful writing. Go there, you go.
41:17
I feel like the outfits they wore. The costume is like the same costume
41:22
they use every time they go to a pre warped civilization. You know what,
41:27
there's probably rose and rose and rose hangers of earth tones there and they
41:31
tell the extras just just grab three and put them on, doesn't matter.
41:36
This is like a shirt shirts and no pants. It's fine, just put
41:39
them, put the shirt on your lower body. It'll be fine. Yeah,
41:44
exactly, exactly. Yeah, pre warp means no fashion. Yeah,
41:50
no colors, no colors. That's just one day. I want them to
41:54
go to a pre warp civilation that has ed hardy T shirts, just those
41:59
giant tigers and dragons on there for no reasons. Do you want to see
42:05
Nelix's home world pre warp? Oh? God, yeah, no, no,
42:09
I do not. I do not. Well, should we get to
42:15
uh listener feedback? Because it feels like we've run our course here? Oh
42:22
wait, we gotta stay. Are one good thing or one good thing?
42:29
I didn't hate this episode, but I'm like, I didn't hate this episode,
42:36
but Dan convinced me to. Yeah, I liked it. So my
42:42
my good thing is I feel like, so far it's the best one of
42:45
the season. That's a low bar. All Right, I got my,
42:52
I got my, I got my one good thing, go for it.
42:53
Uh. Rayner is learning to soften his approach with the crew. He uh
43:05
his interactions with Adira. He realized that his usual approach is not going to
43:12
work, and he adjusted his approach. Yeah that's my that's my one single
43:21
thing. There you go, Scott. Meanwhile, I still just pondering.
43:27
I'm I'm thinking it took mine. Welcome to trek Ass, everybody. We
43:35
will make you hate this show. All right, Well you got one,
43:40
Scott? You want me to go ahead? Okay? I I think it's
43:45
very cool the way they used their uh what they call the hollow deck that
43:49
that stage, because they very clearly created a bunch of fake trees, threw
43:53
some dirt on the ground, and used a giant light all the way around
43:58
them because they were not outside. Yeah, yeah, that was a good
44:04
thing. I think it's cool that they can do that, you know,
44:07
Okay, yeah, you meant they're not outside, Like you could tell they're
44:13
not outside, Yeah, I could tell, like that was a set that
44:15
was not a location. Okay. I think part of the reason see going
44:22
on vacation in a couple months. I've been trying really really hard to lose
44:25
some weight and to get back into at least somewhat of a shape that I
44:31
was when I was in the military. And I wasn't a real thin guy
44:34
in the military either. But I've been doing a lot of walking, some
44:38
light jogging, and I hate i even when I was in the Army,
44:43
I hateed running. I hate running, and this episode had a lot of
44:45
running in it, and I think it just put a bad taste in my
44:49
mouth. Like I had a lot of running and a lot of thirsty people.
44:52
I hate being thirsty. I hate running, and they were doing a
44:54
lot of being thirsty and a lot of running, and as somebody who's been
45:00
doing a lot of that lately, I didn't appreciate it. So I think
45:05
why. I know, I'm telling you why I don't can't come up with
45:09
something I liked. I'm giving an excuse. So while you're while you're exercising,
45:15
Scott, just a little bit of advice. If someone hands you a
45:17
mystery pill, don't just put it in your mouth. Okay, why not?
45:28
There's there's a there's a meme that I've seen of doctor Flocks and he
45:32
hands somebody like a pill and the patient goes, what is this? And
45:37
it looks like Flocks and the patient are both taking it? And he goes,
45:39
We're about to find out. I having to go on this journey with
45:45
you. That's right. Oh yeah, you guys looking at this picture.
45:53
I'm looking at this picture you got on the screen. Yeah, lower me
45:57
too. In the lower right hand corner. That looks pretty much like a
46:02
early twenty first century Pelican case that's spray painted grain gray and they put like
46:08
a little thing on it. Yep, Yeah, sounds about right. So
46:15
I don't know. Props departments still doing their thing. I there you go,
46:21
I love their relationship. I love uh doctor uh what are their names
46:27
again? Yeah, Colbert and Stamen and Paul. There's a little bit of
46:34
tension between them, but not enough to really rock the relationship. I think
46:37
they're you know, they're they're they're a couple, and I like their I
46:42
don't know, I kind of like their dynamic. There you go. That's
46:45
your good thing. That's my good thing. There's yeah, there you go.
46:49
Good job, good job, Scotty, Scott, can you can that's
46:54
right? Yeah, you can't like this show too. I was able to
47:01
kill two birds with one stone on that one. I was I was able
47:05
to show something that I liked, and I was able to show that I'm
47:07
not entirely homophobic, so the cross check both entirely. All right, let's
47:16
let's get to listener feedback, listener feedback. I'm getting canceled. So,
47:30
I, uh, did you You said you had some emails? Yeah,
47:38
oh, okay, I think that would have been a perfect time for me
47:43
to have some technical difficulty. That's right, it would have been. Oh,
47:46
I'm Scott stepping into Chad's shoes. Quite well, that's just dancing around,
47:55
just dancing around that line. That's right, that's right. Got an
48:00
email here again from Zeno Griff. He says, holy moly, thanks so
48:07
much for reading my email on the show. I had to tell my Treky
48:10
coworker. So that's awesome. That's cool. If you're ever near in the
48:15
McComb County area, maybe we can do a meetup. Yeah. I was
48:19
thinking, you know, if you're at the Grand Rapids Comic Con in November,
48:23
I want to make a little road trip over there. We can.
48:27
That's quite a that's quite bigger than the Grand Rapids Comic Con in Kalamazoo.
48:31
The Grand Rapids Comic Con and Grand Rapids is a it's maybe half the size
48:36
of the one in Chicago, so it's a pretty big it's a pretty big
48:39
deal. It's awesome when you guys talk about stuff here, I'm like,
48:46
I know what he's talking about. Like Zeno's getting excited, like the way
48:51
I used to get excited, you know, listening to the show because you
48:53
know, watching Star Trek back in like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and
48:57
I was really excited about it. None of my other friends were. I'm
49:00
like, yeah, there's this new show out, and then there's no other
49:01
new shows come out and they're just like, you're talking about that Trek star
49:06
stuff again. Whatever. But you know, so Zeno gets it. Let's
49:10
keep up the great content, Scott. So yeah, thank you. Also,
49:15
so hold on real quick. Yeah, so, Daniel, this kind
49:21
of ties back to what we were talking about earlier. Yeah, Scott had
49:23
no Scott had no friends in twenty seventeen, and we were his holographic friends.
49:29
That's right, that's right, that's right. Yeah, zero friends.
49:34
That's not that's not healthy, man, that's not hell. No, Yeah,
49:37
no friends, no family. Just wow. Zeno sent me another one,
49:45
say yeah, a Star Trek meet up and suggested maybe a fundraiser for
49:50
a good cause. That's an interesting idea, and signed it case Scott.
49:54
So this is I think this person's either last name Scott. I had some
50:00
friends back in the day named Scott born the same as me. The scottis
50:02
will rise again. Heck yeah, I like it. Oh, we'll have
50:07
a Scotti convention. Let's let's meet up at the Grand Rapids Comic Con and
50:10
have a Scott convention. Scottie gone, We'll have Scotti conn Just go weird.
50:20
I also got an email from Bronze I have some feedback to go ahead.
50:24
Oh go ahead, okay, Uh yeah, who's gone? Who's gone?
50:30
You you go? You go, you go, you go, you
50:31
go? All right? All right, well this is for both of us,
50:34
you and me, all right, Bronson says, My wife and I
50:37
have tickets for the Long Island Convention on Friday and Saturday. Is there a
50:42
plan to meet up before the convention? We're driving out Friday morning. It
50:45
would love to meet you guys there. Do you have any plans? We
50:49
don't have anything concrete yet. We'll be there. You know we're going to
50:53
be there. Yeah, I know Duval is planning to be there as well.
50:58
Yes, there's the sam much that we're gonna eat at some point.
51:02
Can I make a suggestion? Uh no, no, no, no,
51:07
you may not. You may not. Only those who will be in attendance
51:12
may make all okay, okay, I see how it is. I see
51:15
how it is. Yeah, okay, okay. I'm just trying to make
51:17
things better for you and so you don't make the same mistakes of the past.
51:23
Ye mistakes. Well, okay, so the last time we did a
51:30
you guys did a star trek, uh you know, meet up kind of
51:32
thing, was the Star Trek Chicago. All right, now it ended up
51:39
turning out okay, but I think like maybe on the Facebook group or something,
51:45
Dan, you just said, you don't how many concrete ideas or concrete
51:49
plans make those. Try to find a place a time, unless you're worried
51:55
about I don't know, opsec or security or something. Just make a place
52:00
at a time where you guys can all meet up at a restaurant or you
52:02
know, at the at a hotel or something that way. Something that way
52:06
people can make plans because like when I went to Chicago, I'm like,
52:09
are you guys getting together? And you're like, maybe, right right,
52:15
yeah, we should probably do that. I've got the convention website. Yeah,
52:21
but yes, we will be there. We will. We will.
52:23
We will make something. Daniel and I will make some plans, and we
52:28
will post those plans in several places for everyone to see. I've got a
52:35
web meeting with the convention on Tuesday. It's me and all the other podcasts
52:39
that are going to be there. They're gonna so after that, I should
52:45
have more answers as to what's going on. So okay, awesome, you're
52:50
almost making a sound legit. We're trying. We're trying, try it.
52:55
Yeah, we're getting I'll do my best. Yeah, I'll do my best
53:00
during during that week and control you guys as much as I possibly can,
53:02
as you should, as you should, as you should. I will make
53:07
my presence known, That's right. And uh, make sure you guys,
53:09
if you're if you're going to be following us along on the social media during
53:15
that convention, because we will have updates as to what we're doing, when
53:21
we're doing it and all that, so either on the Facebook group or the
53:24
Instagram account, TikTok all that stuff. So I'll be constantly recharging my phone
53:30
as I update things. Yes, so Daniel, how long have we been
53:36
doing this show now? Twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, the end of twenty
53:42
sixteen, yeah, time. Yeah, I think it was just before Discovery
53:46
came out. Yeah, yeah, so a number of years now. You
53:52
know, my my my friends, my regular regular friends, they know that
53:55
I do this podcast. Yeah. I found out this week that one of
54:01
them listens, and I've had I had no idea. One of my he's
54:07
one of my oldest friends. Yeah, Chris Row. I don't know if
54:12
he's listening right now, but last last Sunday or maybe it was Monday,
54:17
he texted me and he like quoted something from the show and I was like,
54:22
you listen? Yeah, yeah, he said, you know, I
54:29
don't. He says, I don't listen live because you know, he's got
54:32
stuff going on. But when his son, he says, when his son
54:36
has soccer games, he listens to the show on his phone while he's watching
54:40
the soccer game. So that was that was cool. So I wanted to
54:44
give a shout out to Chris Rowe, one of my oldest buddies. So
54:47
Chris had friends. You know what, I'm sure your holographic friends listen to
54:54
the show all the time that anytime you want to bring them on, it's
54:59
fine. Absolutely. On Friday night, I went and played magic the gathering
55:06
because I'm that dork, and I got to tell some people that I do
55:10
the show and so we may have some new listeners. So there, all
55:15
right, Yeah, very cool. Yeah, anything else you guys wanted to
55:20
bring up or any other feedback, No, I'm good, I think.
55:23
Okay, do you have anyone anyone exed up? No, nobody exed up?
55:30
Well, Chad business in the UK right now? Or who might be
55:31
flying back. He's probably all over Europe Atlantic. Oh, we do have
55:36
one feedback from Duval. Yeah, he said that, despite all its flaws,
55:39
this episode was the most trek episode of the season so far. So
55:45
there, Okay, So now all they got to do. They've had good
55:50
episodes and they've had trek episodes. Now all they need to do is combine
55:55
them and make a good trek episode. That's right. Yeah, yeah,
56:00
clock's ticking, dude. Oh, they got plenty of they got plenty of
56:07
times. That's right. But that's the reoccurring theme. We've been for five
56:10
for five seasons slash seven years. At this point, we've been saying,
56:15
you know, if they would just do this, it would be good.
56:19
If they would just do this, it would be good. It's yeah,
56:22
it's too late. Man. Hey, they're unshackled from cannon again. He's
56:29
like, we went in the future and this roller coaster. Yeah, this
56:35
roller coasters on the last lap, I'm counting the loops. Only three more
56:38
loops and we're done. There we go. Yeah, maybe the finale will
56:45
surprise us, you know, we might maybe maybe the surprise will be like
56:51
ha ha, may doing another season. I think one of my predictions early
56:53
on was that Dan was gonna love this season. Oh, I've been updating
57:00
our predictions. It's going to be fun. There's a chance. Yeah yeah.
57:04
So all right, well, thanks everybody for listening. We'll catch you
57:08
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