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She Was Groomed by a 'Romeo Pimp': The Reality of Trafficking in America · Voices for Voices®

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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Today's guest, we're very excited to have with us.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, she is the founder of Second Chance Ministries.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: She is Jeanette Bradley.
• 2:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, she does a whole lot of things.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: She's an author, a speaker, an urban missionary, an advocate, an abolitionist.
• 2:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, she has awards such as uh Shine Your Light in 2017 from Stories Behind Their Eyes to the Outstanding Service Award from Judge Paul Herbert and the Ohio Liberator surviving survivor of the year for 2016 for her continued fight against human trafficking.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that's what we're uh here to talk about today, as well as she has a book and she's gonna share all that good stuff uh as we get closer to the the end.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh Jeanette Bradley, thank you so much for joining us.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having me.
• 3:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You're welcome.
• 3:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, I don't know, maybe it might be easier as far as the flow, maybe start uh from the the beginning, you know, the difficult times and experiences you had, and then we can uh just go through that and and end on that uh that the high points of what what you're doing with your ministry, your book, uh how people can learn more about you.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so the floor is yours.
• 3:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And okay.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you, Justin, for inviting me to be on your show.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_02: Uh anytime I can uh give a word out about human trafficking and warn people, it's that's my number one passion.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: So uh I thought I had a normal life um until I was five, and there was um incest from a family member till I was seven, to both my sisters as well.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: I was the baby, and then it stopped, and then it started again at 12 with a different family member, and that went on for several years, and um unfortunately my mom didn't believe us at the time, so it made it pretty rough to not have that comfort, you know, that nurturing protection that you need.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_02: So that kind of started to set my life on a very bad journey because I was just looking for love in all the wrong places and I found it, but it wasn't real love.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, um so in high school, I mean I started drinking when I was 12, I started smoking when I was 12 just to to cope, and I didn't even know what was really happening.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_02: I just felt totally alone.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: But um, so I got married at 17 to get out of the house, and and that was that was a pretty um pretty rough marriage.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I've been married several times, but every time it was just never the right guy.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_02: But I do have two wonderful sons out of it, so I'm very thankful to God for that.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_02: They're wonderful men.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: And um let's see, then I was on my own for a little bit, but it didn't last long, and uh worked many different jobs over the years, um became an alcoholic, became a drug addict, became homeless.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I met a guy in a bar one night when I was a full-blown alcoholic and and was starting my drug addiction, and it turns out he was just throwing money all over the bar, and that attracted me, and he was handsome, so uh we started dating immediately, and he was just taking me places, buying me things, just being real good to me.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's what a Romeo pimp does.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_02: When they when they lure you in, that's what they call them, because they will treat you like a queen for however many months they want to do it.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_02: And then they turn into gorilla pimps, they call them, because they will force you to do whatever they say.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_02: And if you don't do it, you're gonna get beat.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I've been put in the hospital several times and broken bones and things and the trauma that um it just seems to pile on and on and on and on in your life.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_02: If you don't get counseling, if you can't talk to someone, um you know, it it you just you lose yourself in it all, you know.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_02: And my I think one of my worst fears was dying before I learned how to live because I it was just totally survival all the way.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, it was scary a lot of times, especially uh especially when I was approaching 29 years old.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I met the guy at the bar, and like I said, we dated and everything, and then he started uh breaking the number one rule of um dealers to get high on your own supply.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_02: So we both did a lot of crack, and I'm talking about a thousand dollars a day crack.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: And um eventually, of course, he ran out of money, so he started uh throwing me in on the deal.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_02: He might have some money towards it, and then for the rest of it, he just threw me in on the deal to to cover it, and that went on for quite a while.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_02: And he he would just leave me wherever I was at, whatever city, whatever state, you know.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_02: We went into Sandusky, Ohio, we went down to Texas, we went into Mexico.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that was a very, really scary time for me.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um because I didn't know the tradition is, you know, the men are in the backyard doing whatever, drinking and talking and all that, and the women are not allowed to come out when the men are there.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_02: So we showed up and there's me and like 10, 12 men that I didn't know.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: And so you can kind of fill in the blanks there.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: But it was very just very um scary for me because I didn't know was I ever gonna come back, you know, was I ever coming back home to Ohio or not.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: But we did.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: And um then another girl had come into the picture after three years of this.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: And um, so I was able to get away.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_02: I came back to Columbus, but I also tried to like hide under the radar.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: I worked at I worked a job that had a bar in the in the basement of that, not the basement, but they just had an out an outside entrance to a bar they'd built downstairs.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: Now you wouldn't think anybody could find you there.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, but he found me.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: I looked up one night and he was there, and I just told my boss I had to go.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_02: No, you can't go.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, Yes, you don't understand.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_02: So, anyways, that kept going on and on too.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_02: He would just show up this wherever.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_02: He even found out where I lived, and I sure didn't tell him.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I knew what I had to do.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: I had to go get him the drugs, I had to do whatever he said, and it was just a nightmare, continued.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_02: And then one day, um, he just quit coming.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean he'd show up at midnight at three or four in the morning, just whenever, you know, and I knew what the deal was.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_02: So it got really bad one time.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: He uh he throw me down a flight of stairs.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I have a plate in my head from a brain tumor I had in 1980, so they told me to be careful, don't get hit in the head.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it it had to be God.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know him at the time, but he saved my life and I was so out of the out of it I actually kicked the wall.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_02: Instead of going right out the front door, I must have been delirious.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I kept kicking on the on the wall until I broke through and to the next place, and it was a restaurant.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: And I shoved a cigarette machine away and everything, and I I couldn't get out the front door.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: I took a fire extinguisher and tried to break the plate glass window and it wouldn't break.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_02: So finally I went to the back door and I got out.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_02: So, like I said, I had to be delirious because I didn't know what I was doing.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_02: Then I started, I remember walking down the main street.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_02: This was a small town in northern Ohio, and I was walking down the main street and saw a bridge.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I went and got on the bridge, and I was I was done.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna jump.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_02: And uh a police cruiser had gone by.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: So he stops and he's he's talking to me.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't realize he was getting my attention while the other one came behind me and he pulled me off the wall because I was I was definitely gonna jump.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, I I tried suicide since I was 12 and and it just it never worked.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know why, you know, I had to be God back then too.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: So um that was kind of just my attitude in life.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't trying to give up, but I was just kind of left.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: I know there's got to be some listeners, some other people and people that you know that have been in these kind of situations, either with violent boyfriends or uh, you know, just bad relationships, or you've been suicidal, depressed, you know, things like that.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: You can't give up because there's people out there that need you and need your voice.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I never ever thought God well, I didn't believe in him because I thought, well, he wouldn't allow these things to happen, you know.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_02: I was uh gang raped at 15 after the trial with my dad and he got off.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_02: So I was gang raped and um by a motorcycle gang and they left me in a ditch in the woods.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: Now you wouldn't think how could somebody find you.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: But my ex-boyfriend, his friend, it was a small town, so he heard what that I went on the ride.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: So he went out there because he thought that's who it was, and and he was right.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: But his headlight shined on me in that ditch, and that's what saved my life.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, it was just it was just so amazing to know that um that well, first of all, that someone cared, you know, and that I was rescued because I d I was totally out of it, I don't remember it, you know.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: But I woke up in a straitjacket in the hospital at 15, and you know, it wasn't a very I don't know, I I kind of wish I hadn't made it, but I thought, well, I guess there's some reason I'm still here.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, so you know, I made all those wrong choices in life and kept drinking more and drugs more, and that all that does is numb you for a minute.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: It is no relief, it is no answer, it's no solution to the problem.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna wake up the next day either broke, busted, and disgusted, and and and and maybe not even know where you're at, you know.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_02: And uh that's dangerous too.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_02: So, anyways, um when I after I'd left him and he quit coming, I I got out of the streets because I was so bad with drugs, I had to figure out how I'm gonna get money.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't even work at the time.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I started um walking the streets and prostituting, which you know, my family was middle class.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't never thought of that, but that would happen.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: But so um I'd done that for a while, and it was, I'll never forget it was January 4th, 1994.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'd been out on the streets for a long time and sleeping in doorways of churches, but I didn't know God, so no sense in knocking.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, sleeping between the building, a building and uh on a dumpster, just trying to stay warm.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: And so the dope boys decided, though, you can come stay in the crack house.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: So I went to the crack house and uh I thought, well, now I can get warm and get rest, and it that was that was never gonna happen.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I would call up into a corner to sleep without a pillow, uh, a blanket, anything, when they would allow you to sleep.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_02: And if they told you to go in there, do something or whatever, you know, their no was not in their vocabulary.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I had to do whatever they said, and it was it was very, very traumatizing because you don't get the rest you need.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes they'll give you dope to help you cope, and sometimes they won't.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: So a lot of things you're going through.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: You feel that humiliation and that fear and and and all that, but you can't do anything about it.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: And there's there was no way of escape.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember one time they took me over to a it was like a speedway gas station where they had the hot dogs and things back there.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_02: So they had me keep the cashier busy.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: They went back, two of them, went back to the and started stuffing hot dogs down and eating them and you know, just having a good old time.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: About 15 minutes later, they walked past me back out the door, which meant I had to leave.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I still didn't get any food.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: I I was able, I guess I know it would had to be with the grace of God, but I could take a can of chili and make it last me a week.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: Just get the top off and eat.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: You just couldn't take a couple bites, put it away, and you know.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: But God really, you know, he really he was there and I didn't know it, still cussing him out for it.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: And um, so finally the the the crack house, they were getting uh evicted.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I I ended up finally being able to get my mom to call my sister, who was always good to me and always nice.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: She was the one that was with me when the incest started at 12 and she was 14.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: So she said, just find a place to stay.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: And her husband, thank God, he worked on the same side of town.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I went down there, stayed with them, and it was the most amazing thing because they live off of this winding road back in these beautiful A-frame places.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: And um it was January 4th, so all the snow and all these trees, they were just laden with snow, all the branches.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: So it looked like he were going through a tunnel, and it was I thought it was pretty, but it was just the most amazing thing.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: As soon as I started going through it, I it almost took my breath away, and I felt like I was high, and I wasn't.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_02: But so then we got to the house, and when I walked in the house, it was the same feeling.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know what it was, but later God had told me that I was entering into his peace.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I never had peace, I don't I don't even remember when, but so we walked in the house and um talked and everything, they went to bed, I went to bed, but I came back upstairs and just opened their cabinet doors and sat there and looked at the food because when you don't get to eat very often, you know, and I'm like, oh my god, they have four kinds of cookies and look at all that cereal, you know, just weird things.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: And so then I went back to bed.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: And when I got up the next morning, my sister had asked me after we ate breakfast, um, so do you want to give your heart to to Jesus?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: And now I they tried for 10 years to get me to turn to him and I didn't want anything to do with it.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I immediately said yes.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: So it must have been the appointed time that he talks about in his word.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: So we said the the salvation prayer, and uh we came back over and she she said, Look at this calendar on that kitchen table and I looked at it, and it was John 16 20.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: I will turn your sorrow into joy.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: And he has done that every day since even the bad times.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm still alive, I'm still blessed, I'm not sleeping outside or getting raped anymore.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it was just it's just he has turned my sorrow into joy and continues.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm 73 now, so it's just been a he saved my life, you know.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: So he had me uh write my book, and um I was going to this group called the Catch Court in Columbus, Ohio.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's the catch stands for changing actions to change habits.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: You have to have a current prostitution charge to get into the program.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: But it's a two-year program with the courts.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: You go every week and you get you know, counseling and you get um you get support and and you can you can air your grievances or give praise reports and stuff.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I became the catch mom.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: I would always give them just encouraging things, you know, uh different messages from different pastors or quotes or whatever it is, and and um they would look at me kind of funny and I'd say, Well, you know, if a farmer wants corn, he has to plant the seed in the ground.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: So these are seeds of faith and seeds of love, because God loves you so much that you're here today.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: And many of your friends, my friends all from my past are gone.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, it was really a neat thing to do.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: I did that for quite a while and um wrote my book, started speaking, even went on two church mission trips and uh did a PSA for uh the Czech Republic.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um the one eye opener when we went back the second time and we did um the red light district.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: And it's illegal, prostitution is illegal there, but they have 850 brothels.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: I looked it up before I go, I like to do that, and it I found out it's all run by the m Russian mom.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: So and they don't even know they're being trafficked.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we talked and everything, and they asked me what what they could do, but oh, before I say that, I wanted to say there's they had girls in the windows and red lights around the windows, and I'll never forget this one young girl, and I don't think she could have been 20, but she had a little dog in her lap, and she could hardly make eye contact.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I had a translator, so he was translating to her when I was just telling her, you know, I came from where you're at.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you could you could see a little light come on in her, and then she would look at me because we were on common ground, you know.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: So it doesn't matter the distance, it doesn't matter if like I had a translator, but the worst part was having to leave her.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, here I can give them my card or give them resources to to uh go to and stuff, and but there I couldn't.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_02: But I was able to pray for them all, so I was happy about that.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I'll tell you another interesting fact, down at the corner of the street before you headed up to the red light district, they had men that were um, you know, trying to like carnival barkers, you know, trying to get you to come in and see the fat lady or whatever.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_02: They were trying to get you to come up the street into the brothels and stuff, and um, they were being trafficked because they were promised, you know, a good job, you know, an education, all kinds of things, like that's how they do it.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_02: You know, nannies and babysitters and and college and all those kinds of things.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's how they traffic them from overseas.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: So um I was that was pretty sad because a lot of these guys were you could see they were even broken.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: So but anyway, so you know, I just continued to speak and everything, and um God got a hold of me in 2009 and well in '94, but in two thousand nine he actually uh ordained me an evangelist, which I was it really changed my heart because I'm like, wow.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you just don't ever thank your mouth anything, that's all you were told.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_02: And you know it.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Really is too.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: He will give you beauty for ashes, joy instead of mourning.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: You know, he's he's just so phenomenal, and his love is pure, and you just can't don't ever ever give up on him.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: Anybody listening, please give your heart to God.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'm telling you, I didn't believe in him either.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: But he's turned my life around, and now I've had a street men's tree for almost 24 years now called Second Chance.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: And we we do the streets down in Columbus in the really uh rough areas, the hood they call it.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: And um the street I do it on is considered the worst street in Columbus for trafficking because the gangs are trafficking them down there, and they they truly they really don't care.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: You're just a dollar sign.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I see them out there in the winter and they've got you know just a little maybe a hoodie on if they're lucky, sometimes not even that, just a sweatshirt.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: You just have to make that quota, and you can't come back till you do, or you're gonna get beat.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: So it it's we need definitely need stronger laws um to punish the traffickers.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: We need um definitely more resources for the women too, because you know they are broken, they're invisible, and they need they're so traumatized, they don't even know what they need.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: But we know they need, you know, they need recovery.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: Some of them are uh are out of recovery, but they still don't have a safe place to go.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what that's what they really need.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: So I pray that people would this would open their eyes and they would see that, you know, at least pray for people.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: If you can't do anything, if you can, you know, give to your local, you can Google human trafficking in your zip code, because there's no zip code in the United States that doesn't have traffickers and trafficking victims.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: And you can find an organization and pray about it, you know, who you want to give to, who's doing the the really good stuff.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm out in the trenches all the time, and most of the time, well, I won't say most of the time, but probably a third of the time I've been by myself.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: People don't want to get out there, and it's like I can't not go, you know, because once you get down there, I've had few that are helping me now that um they were just absolutely shocked.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's a culture shock.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: You see a girl wear size zero, you know, and she's got fentanyl face, they call it, where they get scabs all over their face.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: They're beaten, they're I mean, you can see the brokenness.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, the more I start talking and telling them, hey, I know you're at, but you do have a way out.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: And some I've I've actually taken to the safe houses or drop-in centers, but most of them are too afraid to leave because they'll they'll threaten them.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: I know where grandma lives, or I know which way your little brother walks to school.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: So you know, we just we just need to come together and help these people because as long as they don't see them as victims, they're gonna think no, they chose that life.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: Well, nobody gets chose to uh be raped or to get no sleep or uh to even eat, um, you know, to just be totally humiliated and empty.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody asks for that kind of life, you know.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: So I I just truly hope and I believe that it's going to get better.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: I really I have to believe that.
• 25:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely.
• 25:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I I'd like on your uh second chance ministries for those watching and listening.
• 25:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That is the number two N D C H A N C E Ministries, which is spelled M-I-N-I-S-T-R-I-E-S dot or G.
• 25:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's where you'll find uh Jeanette's uh mission work, her minute minister work, and she has under her urban missionary uh section uh Proverbs 31, 8 to 9, which is quoted as speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, ensure justice for those who are perishing.
• 26:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yes, speak up for the poor and helpless, and see they get justice, end quote.
• 26:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um it can't be any any truer for what what what you're doing, and it's really uh it's just amazing.
• 26:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, you're you're giving a voice to those that have one that might not know how and where, and then there's uh unfortunately you know those individuals who have passed before us who uh like you said, there's just there's there's life to to live, even though it might not seem like it, it might seem like well, there's nothing for me to do.
• 27:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh how do you how do you feel when you when you do that ministry or work, when you go to those foreign countries, when you go down to those streets, when you're uh ministering and and sharing and and talking, but how does that make you feel?
• 27:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because I I think some uh listeners and viewers might say the same thing that most people would say, like, well, I'm not going down there.
• 27:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm I'm gonna be a bystander.
• 27:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm gonna, you know, somebody else can do that.
• 27:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's not for for me, but you're uh you know you're an upstander, so you're you're going in and you're you're doing it, and you're like, this is what I'm here to do, and so I'm gonna continue to do that.
• 27:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I know it's kind of a loaded loaded question, so pick whichever part.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_02: I get it.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I wish someone had been there for me.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we give out clothes, we give out food.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: The first thing I give them is hot food, because I know, and and one of the girls we just uh served a couple weeks ago, she had five gang members around her, and she was white, they were black, and I'm not racist at all.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_02: I love everyone.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: But when they finally allowed her, I had to go around the block and come back and ask her, ask to speak to her.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_02: And at first they were really mocking me, and I just said, Please let me speak to her.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: As soon as she came over, uh she looked like she had been up for days.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, Would you like a hamburger?
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_02: She goes, Oh, yeah, I haven't eaten in two days, and I said, I know, I know.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: So I see myself in them a lot.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: I know exactly what they're going through, and I know what they'll what they'll end up happening to them if they don't obey.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: You just can't say no to anything.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: And but I'm so thankful that God would would think of using me and giving me the honor of seeing these broken, invisible, empty women.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: Because as I said, a lot of people, even today, and I've been in this since 2007 with helping against anti-trafficking, and they'll just say, Oh, they asked for it, just like the homeless men, they're all drunks, you know, and I'm like, No, I didn't ask for it.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: No woman would ever choose to have that, you know, the rape and the beatings and all that happen to you.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, if if they can't, the legal definition is threat, fraud, or coercion, you know, for profit.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: And that's exactly how you have to live.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and they do all kinds of humiliating things to break you to be submissive.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: And some of them are the animals, to tell you the truth.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: I won't go into any more.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh in a room full of the traffickers for an audience, and it it it people just don't understand.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_02: This is the number one human rights violation to me.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's labor trafficking, there's child brides, there's um, you know, uh boy soldiers, there's all kinds and they're they're white-collared too.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's judges that that have been busted for using these girls.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they came over thinking they were gonna be a nanny, but they make them do everything.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like they they work 20 hours a day, sleep for four or five, get back up and do everything all over again.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: But um I see myself in them, and I won't give up as long as God allows me to do it.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: If I have to get out in a wheelchair, I'll do it.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: There's just not a lot of people out there, you know, just because they don't they don't see them as victims.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_02: Even the men.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_02: There's a reason that God there's a reason that they're in that spot.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: Something made them a drunk or something made them homeless, something made the girls have zero self-esteem, zero worth.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I look at.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_02: What made you this way?
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Because just because life made you that way, or the labels, that's not true.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: You don't you don't have to live by your past or what somebody the labels somebody put on you.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: I've had more labels put on me than a box sent to China.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm telling you.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_02: But I I refuse.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: I just refuse because I know now that I know God, there's always a way out.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: All you have to do, and I tell them the strongest prayer you can pray is help me, Jesus.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_02: Because a lot of them don't know God, or if they do, you know, they've kind of don't believe in him anymore.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: And but you won't believe how many that will give their hearts to the Lord.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_02: They want it, but but I'm hoping and praying that somebody else will come along too, or me to disciple them, put them in these safe houses, let us minister to them and love on them.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they can't you can't stay in a war zone and the war not get in you.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I'm just very thankful to do this and I'm praying to do more.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just not sure what yet, but we'll see.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, I'm still grassroots after 24 years.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I people won't believe what I can do with the$20 bill.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_02: I can buy almost 20 pairs of socks.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I I live by donations and a and a prayer, you know, and God is always, always provided.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: So I know I'm meant to do this.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: And when I when you first uh contacted me, and I always say I'm a voice for those who have none.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: And when I when you told me yours was voices for voices, I knew right then I felt it from God.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, Yes, you have to help this young man.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: Not not help you, but yeah, just help maybe validate you more with with the stories you tell, because you know, I'm so thankful and so honored that you asked me because this could save lives.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: This could be speaking to someone's heart right now, especially if it's a girl that maybe she planned on killing herself and now maybe she won't, you know.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know, but I'm just never gonna give up.
• 33:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, and that and that's the that that's the thing, the you know, helping one person step off of that ledge, uh, like like where you were at, you know that feeling.
• 33:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um you know, we we want to help as many people as possible, but if we can save one life, one person from making that decision, yes, and somehow, somehow uh there's a lot of good people out there, and and we just hope and pray that uh the the right people uh do like the work and the ministry that that you do at the second chance, and uh just the heart that you have for forgiving and and and sharing is is is is huge and it shouldn't be underestimated what a human can do.
• 34:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh you know, some people might say, uh you know, after all you've been through, uh how you know does that give you more trauma when you get into those situations?
• 34:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But it sounds like it doesn't.
• 34:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That it kind of feels uh a spot, uh like your spirit and your soul when you're doing that that work.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, God's given me such a compassion, and it's that's a gift from God because I've met people that have no compassion, you know.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: I thank you for your compassion.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like it's not like you don't have a choice.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_02: I don't mean it that way, but that's my that's just my calling, you know, to do that, you know.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_02: So, and it doesn't matter where you where you're at, you know, where you started, it's it's how you finish, you know.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_02: And um, do I have a minute to tell you another quick little story?
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: Have you heard of Corey Ten Boom?
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, a lot of people have.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: They were her and her sister was put into concentration camps for those that don't know.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: And so they were in this, in the one of the um, I don't know what you call it, cabins or hoochas, whatever they're called, but so they kept, you know, a lot of these women prisoners just put like 50 in a in one of those little houses.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: And so they kept having uh all these fleas.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_02: And they were just they were just being tormented because they had so many fleas they couldn't even sleep or anything.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_02: But but then Corey started putting it together and and she heard screams coming from the different buildings because of what was happening to the women, but they didn't come and bother their room or their house because of the fleas.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: So that actually it protected them, you know.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: It was amazing when I read that, you know.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_02: And then, you know, they were they were set to be um executed.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: But they had, you know, they would they would drew names somehow.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember how the story went, but they drew drew names or numbers, numbers.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: And so they would, when they if they drew your number, you could leave.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: Well, they got Corey's mixed up with somebody else's, um, but her number came up, and her sisters didn't she had to leave her behind, but she left.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: But what I say all that to say God knows who is going to um not be ashamed of the gospel.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: She's written many books.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: The hiding place is a very good book to read by her.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's about um, you know, your lowest low and then overcoming it all.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, she went to country, she was an outspoken um speaker and author, and just she was a big inspiration for me.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_02: Big, you know.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: So it doesn't matter where you're at if you have nothing.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: You can be sitting in a crack house right now, or you know, sitting in the trafficker's place, but it doesn't mean it's the end.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: You just hold on, hold on.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: There'll be a way to get away.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: You just start praying to Jesus.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: Help me, Jesus, help me, Jesus.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_02: He'll hear you the first time.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: Just don't give up.
• 37:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely.
• 37:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I want to show thank you for sharing that.
• 37:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm glad you did.
• 37:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I want to show our viewers and our uh our our listeners.
• 37:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'll just uh tell the the book that uh the first book that Janeb Bradley has written is called titled I'm Still Standing.
• 38:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so for our reviewers, you're able to see uh the front cover, and then here's the back cover, and you can kind of get an idea uh of Janet as well as uh what is uh included in in the book.
• 38:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Can you can you talk how how did how the book oh and it's for sale on Amazon?
• 38:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Is that correct?
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, or you can go on my website.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and and yeah, you can go on my website and I'll send you one.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_02: I can send you a signed one if you'd like.
• 38:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh my gosh, that would be amazing.
• 38:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'll I'll shoot get you that information after this.
• 38:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you.
• 38:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, I love that.
• 38:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's so kind.
• 39:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So yeah, what got what got you to the point where you wanted to write a book?
• 39:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because what people some people look at it as it's just a lot of work, and who's gonna read it and who's gonna, but it actually has a lot of meaning, and it actually does help a lot of people, which is uh the the the powerful thing.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, I mean, I I always wrote poems, I don't know why, and that's a that's really kind of a common uh line between us, anyone that's been through a lot of trauma.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'll know all the survivors that I knew, you know, they wrote poems, the ones that went into catch court, the active, you know, prostitutes wrote, you know, but God asked me to write it, and you know, my sister Debbie, like I said, we were together when all when it started as a teen, and she was dying of cancer in 2012.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_02: She died um actually uh uh Good Friday.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_02: Or no, I'm sorry, Palm Sunday uh in 2012.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_02: But it took several years, and towards the end, that's when God started telling me to write my book, and I I'm I'm just like what you know, I that was the last thing I but he helped me through it.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I didn't even know how to go about it, but I had ended up, I won't even go through the whole story, but I ended up going to college, and I was the first one in my entire bloodline that ever went to college.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_02: And um so I had this one professor, uh, she was uh I was oh sociology, I think I can't remember, but she ended up being a very good friend of mine.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_02: And she knew another lady, it was her good friend that had written many books.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_02: So we would get together and they would do jewelry parties or whatever they would do, and they would always donate the money to me.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_02: And so when I mentioned that I would like to, you know, God's calling me to write a book, she said, Well, you just let me know and I'll I'll help you.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: She was self-published hers, so it's what I ended up doing.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_02: But another story was in Catch Court.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_02: I was sitting there one day and I'd met this lady about three or four times, and she was real nice.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I just asked her, I knew she was a strong Christian, and I just said, Well, will you please pray?
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like God wants me to write a book.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I found out it's like$1,500, you know, to do it.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, she said, I sure will.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_02: And then as we were getting ready to leave, she goes, You let me know when it's time.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_02: She goes, We're gonna pay for it.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_02: It blew my mind.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_02: It was God all the way.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_02: Because then then the author she found uh or she told me about a uh another lady that does the proofreading.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_02: So it was a hundred dollars uh when she got it, and it was a hundred dollars when she sent it back.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I sent her the hundred, which was a real stretch for me.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_02: I was just a waitress at the time.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: And um so then she had messaged me and said, uh well after reading your manuscript, she goes, Yeah, the rest is forgiven, don't worry about it.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: So it was God all the way.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_02: I thought, you know, I I I didn't know what I was doing, but I knew it was it was, you know, the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I mean, I designed my own cover and I love it, I love it.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I put, you know, I just kept adding some butterflies because as I put on the back, that's like salvation.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know, caterpillar goes into a womb or goes into the um just going across the the ground wherever, and he uh goes into this cocoon that he weeds, and he's in there in the dark, all alone, and it's it's called metamorphosis, so it changes him in the dark, all by himself, and he emerges as a beautiful, one-of-a-kind butterfly, and that's what I think, and that's what I felt when I got got saved because I no one ever noticed me before, no one wanted to know my story, you know, not even my family knew for a long time.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but it you know, it's just beautiful.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_02: I when I see butterflies, I think, oh, they're free, and I want all these girls to know freedom because like they I think the veterans coined it when they said freedom isn't free.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_02: I use that with the girls because you know, I know a lot, it's cost their lives, but I know I know several that have made it and have started their own organizations and things, so it's uh you know, it's just you just can't give up.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's all I can say.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I would oh, by the way, you know, I mean, God would get me up like three in the morning and just say it's time, and I'd go sit in a chair, and I'm telling you, my pen never left the paper.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: He would just give it to me, give it to me, and give you know, and I would just write for an hour or two, and then I'd maybe a couple days later he'd do the same.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, it just flowed out of me.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I knew he would take care of it all.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_02: And but was funny because when you know, when you write your own book, then you have to order your own book.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so I bought, I don't know how many they were, probably a hundred or something.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_02: And that was a big thing for me to do.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: But I bought it, but when I opened it up and saw how little thin they were, I'm like, and I just cried because the manuscript it looked like it was like inch and a half, two inches thick.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, Why lord, it was so sweet.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: He actually I felt him say, Well, you know how restless you are.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: And the girls are the same way, you know.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: We have PTSD, we have complex PTSD, actually.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm still on medication for it.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_02: But so he said, Do you think they would if that book was twice or four times that thick, how long do you think it would take them to read it?
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: They wouldn't even finish it.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: So you can read my book in a in a day or two.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's got like 80, 90 pages or something, but say that prayer in the back.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's the most important thing.
• 45:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely.
• 45:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, Janet, we're so grateful for you to speak out and speak up and share uh the the hard times uh and how you've come out on the other side and um being a a light or a voice for those that feel like they have none, or if if they have one and and want to share it, you're there to listen and you're there to be with them and and help in any way you you can.
• 45:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Is there anything we missed um that you wanted to share uh to our viewers and listeners before we close out?
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_02: Just if anyone ever needs somebody to come and teach human trafficking 101, I'd be happy to speak because you can't fix something unless you know it's broken.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_02: And most people still think, oh yeah, that's over in Thailand or India.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, no, no, no.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: We Ohio is actually number seven in the whole United States.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_02: We were number four for gosh, probably 20 some years, and now we went to number seven because they have grades for every state, that you know, a long list of things, you know.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, if people would just even spread what they've heard today, because I mean there's grandmas are that are raising their grandchildren, or you know, if you might have nieces and nephews, you know, so or raising daughters, you know?
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_02: So you just cannot be too careful because every 30 seconds someone is being trafficked.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: Is that right?
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: Every 30 seconds, and they have more beds for animals, like you know, the the dog, the suites and all that.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_02: You can board them, whatever.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: They have more beds for dogs than they do probably keep which I'm happy I love animals, but yeah, like they just people just don't want to admit it, I think, because then they'd have to do something, you know.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: But it I I don't know if it would be um appropriate or not, or if it would it be possible I could say a quick prayer over you.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm gonna go.
• 47:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I was gonna say, yeah, if you want to do a prayer, go for it, please.
• 47:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: Lord God, I thank you for this time.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: I thank you for voices for voices, their TV show and their podcast.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_02: I thank you for Justin.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm asking you to bless, to explode his TV show and his podcast, and and give him uh more sponsors, let him just reach to the sky, Lord, because we need to get word out about this and all the other people that he has come on and speak.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_02: There's so many areas of life and so many things that are happening and so many things that are hidden.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_02: It all has to be brought to the light.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: And for anyone listening, I pray that this has encouraged you in this even in the slightest way.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_02: I hope it has opened up your eyes.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: I hope you will spread the word, and I hope you will never give up.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_02: Men, women, girls, or boys.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you have to be safe in this day and time because it's uh it's getting worse and worse.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I thank you for this time, and I ask you to bless and protect Justin, his wife, his children, his ministry, because it's a ministry he's got.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I pray that more and more people would just come on board and support him.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_02: It can go, I know it's worldwide, but it can it can really explode, and I'm praying for that.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_02: So just bless and protect him and his family and their health and their finances, their homes, their vehicles, everything that they do is connected to their lives and their children.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_02: We love you, Lord, in Jesus' name.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_02: Amen.
• 49:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Amen.
• 49:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh my gosh, that was so beautiful.
• 49:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh uh, thank you, Jeanette, so much.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_03: You're welcome.
• 49:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, this won't be the loss of our connections or uh that and I'd love to have you on the show uh again in the future and share more.
• 49:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and just want to say thank you for picking up the phone, pick uh checking your face.
• 49:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, because without that, then we would never would have connected, and um very grateful to be able to reach out.
• 49:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then when I heard back from you, it was it was a good time, good feeling.
• 49:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I guess good feeling that um like it makes makes so much sense.
• 50:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like we need to continue to reach out.
• 50:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We just never know who we're gonna touch when and who's gonna get it shared.
• 50:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And right.
• 50:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh my gosh.
• 50:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, well, thank you, Jeanette Bradley, for joining us on the show.
• 50:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, it's been uh a real blessing to have you on.
• 50:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much for the beautiful prayer.
• 50:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um so beautiful.
• 50:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh please go and find I'm still standing on by Jeanette Bradley on Amazon or her website, which is uh I'm just gonna do this.
• 50:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just gonna share the screen, and then for our listeners, I'll I'll just read it and then it'll be in the transcript too as well.
• 51:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that'll be good.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so here we go.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_00: Where are we at here?
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and I'll share.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because to be truthful, I don't make hardly any kind of money from Amazon.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'd prefer if they go and um buy it on my website.
• 51:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Buy it on your buyer site, yeah.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'll sign it and I'll I mean I send it to you personally.
• 51:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that means so much too.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like you know, I can buy more clothes and food and keep going for these girls.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you.
• 51:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You're welcome.
• 51:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So for those that are that are listening, the website that you can learn uh about Janet's ministry is Second Chance Ministries, and you can also buy her her book.
• 51:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: She would prefer on off of her uh second chance ministries website.
• 52:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And for those that are viewing, you should be able to see on the screen uh how to spell out second chance ministries for those listeners.
• 52:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh I will spell it out for you.
• 52:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that we'll start with the number two and then the letters N D C H A N C E M I N I S T R I E S dot O-R-G, and that will take you directly uh to Janette Bradley's Second Chance Ministry site, and please go check it out.
• 52:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Please purchase uh a book for yourself, a book for a neighbor, book for uh somebody in your in your family, maybe give them out at a birthday or uh a holiday, uh, because this is like uh like Jeanette said, especially for those of us living in in the state of Ohio, that we're number seven in the country when it comes to human trafficking.
• 53:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And uh that's I know it's unacceptable to Janette.
• 53:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I know it's unacceptable, it's unacceptable to to me as well to to know that there's more more states that have less human trafficking than the state that I and Jeanette live in.
• 53:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so uh thank you so much, Jeanette.
• 53:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um won't be the last uh that we'll we'll hear and see uh of her.
• 53:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh please again, if you can, give us a thumbs up, like, follow, subscribe, share, reshare, repost.
• 53:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um that will greatly help us uh reach more people, help more people, uh share Jeanette's ministry, what she has gone through throughout her life and where she's at now, where uh you know, we definitely want to pray to keep her safe all days, but especially those days and those times that uh she finds herself and you know, some of the the rougher parts of town to keep her her and her um uh ministry and all the uh help out and are part of it uh safe because we need more people like like Jeanette to to go out into um and into a hard uh hard place to go, uh to to go there.
• 54:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so we'll uh guess we'll leave it leave it there.
• 54:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um for those watching and listening, thank you so much.
• 54:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'll see you on the next episode of the show.
• 55:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Until then, if we can just celebrate all the voices in the world, even those that are hidden, that may feel invisible, that may feel like life isn't worth living, can uh we uh let's celebrate them, let them know, let everybody know, but especially those that are on the brink of um making you know one of one of those decisions that um there's there's a lot of living left to do.
• 55:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it also comes in where let's not just be a voice for ourselves, but like Jeanette and so many more being a voice for others as well.
• 55:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So it it's so important uh to let people know that their voice matters no matter how small or how big the uh the experience or uh the trauma that that they've been through.
• 55:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And there are people out there that uh have are able and and want to listen and want to help and will understand what you have gone through, maybe not a hundred percent, but a good enough portion to uh to to know that someone else understands.
• 56:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's not somebody that just has those book smarts, it's somebody that has that lived experience.
• 56:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so we'll uh we'll cut the show off uh at this point, and we'll see you next time.
• 56:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you everybody for watching and listening.
• 56:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'll see you next time.
• 56:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you.
• 56:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You're welcome.