Latest / The Late Debate / The Late Debate | 9 June
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Well the late Bait.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
- 0:07Speaker 1: So.
- 0:07Speaker 3: I'm James MacPerson with Joe Hildebrand and Danika Georgio. It's
- 0:11Speaker 3: great to have your company on the late to beat. Danika,
- 0:14Speaker 3: how are you?
- 0:14Speaker 4: I'm great? Thank you?
- 0:15Speaker 2: Why are you so great tonight? Tell us I'm.
- 0:18Speaker 4: About to go on holidays from tomorrow.
- 0:20Speaker 2: I knew something, you know.
- 0:22Speaker 5: I'm just I've got a bit of a pepp in
- 0:23Speaker 5: my step because my leave's coming up from tomorrow.
- 0:26Speaker 6: Any of you guys walk full time.
- 0:29Speaker 5: I haven't taken a break all year. So excited to
- 0:31Speaker 5: go home to Perth. See my mom and dad. Should
- 0:33Speaker 5: be nice.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Yeah, lovely, very good. Shout out to Ralph and Marilena.
- 0:37Speaker 4: Yes, and Dad. I know they were they would be watching.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Hi.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Yeah, that was smooth.
- 0:42Speaker 2: I was very sweet.
- 0:43Speaker 6: Did you google that?
- 0:44Speaker 1: No?
- 0:44Speaker 3: No, I have met Danika's mum and dad and they
- 0:47Speaker 3: are just lovely people.
- 0:49Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 0:50Speaker 1: I'm glad you haven't met my parents.
- 0:51Speaker 4: There are you going on leave? Joe?
- 0:53Speaker 6: I know I can't hear the country couldn't afford it.
- 0:57Speaker 6: This is why I cannot even have a single day
- 0:59Speaker 6: off ever until the end of time. Because without the
- 1:02Speaker 6: voice of reason guiding Australia on the.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Path to success.
- 1:06Speaker 6: Wow, truth and where we we wouldn't be enjoying the
- 1:12Speaker 6: salad days we are right now?
- 1:15Speaker 2: I say, without you, Joe, the Labour Party would fall apart, but.
- 1:19Speaker 6: Already happened.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Let's get into the show tonight. Here's what's coming up.
- 1:22Speaker 3: The AVC boss defends the appointment of Grace Tame, insisting
- 1:26Speaker 3: most Australians would be able.
- 1:28Speaker 2: To relate to what she really believes in.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Will customers be saying goodbye to Hello Fresh? The meal
- 1:34Speaker 3: kit delivery company has released a highly controversial advertisement celebrating.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Gay Pride Month.
- 1:40Speaker 3: And are we witnessing the death of Australian music? Why
- 1:43Speaker 3: is it so few local acts and making the charts
- 1:45Speaker 3: these days? We'll get into all of that, including our
- 1:48Speaker 3: favorite Aussie songs. But first, Virgin Australia made history last
- 1:52Speaker 3: year becoming the first Australian airline to allow pets to
- 1:56Speaker 3: fly in the cabinet. Was a breakthrough for dogs suffering
- 1:59Speaker 3: separation anxis, and it was a breakthrough for pet owners
- 2:02Speaker 3: suffering from common sense deficiency.
- 2:05Speaker 2: But before you book a window seat.
- 2:06Speaker 3: For your pampered pooch or your cherished cat, there is
- 2:09Speaker 3: one small catch. If the aircraft has to be evacuated
- 2:13Speaker 3: in an emergency, well your pet stays behind. The International
- 2:17Speaker 3: Air Transport Association has launched its Save a Life, Not
- 2:21Speaker 3: a Bag campaign in an effort to halt the practice
- 2:24Speaker 3: of passengers grabbing their carry on in an emergency aircraft evacuation.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Virgin Australia has confirmed in such a situation, pets in
- 2:33Speaker 3: carrier cases would have to be left behind to ensure
- 2:36Speaker 3: the safe and swift evacuation of all passengers and crew. Well,
- 2:42Speaker 3: talk about wishful thinking. If someone loves their dogs so
- 2:45Speaker 3: much they refuse to spend even ninety minutes in the
- 2:47Speaker 3: air without mister Snuggles seated the dar.
- 2:50Speaker 6: How did you know the name of mind?
- 2:52Speaker 2: I knew you would go for Snuggles?
- 2:54Speaker 3: Do we seriously believe they'll abandon him in a smoke
- 2:57Speaker 3: filled cabin while making their way to the emergency exit.
- 3:00Speaker 3: Human beings routinely run back into burning houses for family pets.
- 3:04Speaker 3: So when the aircraft fills with smoke and the flight
- 3:06Speaker 3: a tendency yelling leave everything behind, do we really think
- 3:09Speaker 3: the person who bought a seat for Whiskers is going
- 3:11Speaker 3: to suddenly discover a steely commitment to aircraft safely regulations.
- 3:16Speaker 2: I think not, Joe Hildebrew.
- 3:17Speaker 6: I think you've absolutely nailed it here. And this is
- 3:19Speaker 6: why we cannot have nice things. This is why we
- 3:22Speaker 6: cannot allow ourselves these luxuries. It's like working from home.
- 3:25Speaker 6: As soon as you open that can of worms, no
- 3:27Speaker 6: one's going back to the office. As soon as you
- 3:29Speaker 6: let pens on planes. I think we should go in
- 3:30Speaker 6: the other direction. I think I've actually got lists of
- 3:32Speaker 6: people I think should be banned from aircraft.
- 3:35Speaker 2: So I think that left on the aircraft.
- 3:38Speaker 6: The standards are too Like It's like my position on euthanasia.
- 3:41Speaker 6: I'm all for it, as long as I get to
- 3:42Speaker 6: decide who who does it anyway, But I think it's
- 3:45Speaker 6: absolutely right. And I think even if you thought in
- 3:47Speaker 6: your head, all right, yeah, sign or the you know,
- 3:49Speaker 6: it'll be one of those one of those green ticks
- 3:52Speaker 6: you have to do when you're online check in. You know,
- 3:54Speaker 6: do you promise to leave your dog behind when the
- 3:56Speaker 6: plane goes down in flames?
- 3:57Speaker 1: Oh?
- 3:58Speaker 6: Yes, but of course instantctively. There's no way you are
- 4:01Speaker 6: going to do that. There's no way you're going to
- 4:04Speaker 6: just say, you know, you look at their little eyes,
- 4:06Speaker 6: even though my dog's probably only got about three months
- 4:08Speaker 6: to live. Anyway, it does nothing but bark or drive
- 4:10Speaker 6: my wife up the wall. She'll probably leave me before
- 4:12Speaker 6: the dog does. There's no way you could physically bring
- 4:15Speaker 6: yourself to do it, and the other with want to.
- 4:18Speaker 6: I want to check the fine print on this because
- 4:20Speaker 6: it says that I would have to. You would have
- 4:23Speaker 6: to leave dogs and cats in carry bags or in
- 4:27Speaker 6: their little doggie bags. What if you've got them on
- 4:30Speaker 6: the like? Could you have the dog and when you're
- 4:33Speaker 6: carrying the dog, they have to.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Be in a carry bag under the seat in front
- 4:36Speaker 2: of you.
- 4:37Speaker 6: So what's the point of having them on the you know,
- 4:39Speaker 6: if they're meant to be a comfort animal or whatever.
- 4:41Speaker 6: If they're already in the bag and you're not like
- 4:44Speaker 6: patting them or whatever, what comfort are they giving you?
- 4:46Speaker 6: It makes no sense.
- 4:47Speaker 4: No, you're not.
- 4:48Speaker 5: The thought of leaving a beloved pet behind on an
- 4:51Speaker 5: aircraft genuinely makes me upset. Can you imagine if the
- 4:55Speaker 5: dog is crying, sitting there looking at you with its
- 4:58Speaker 5: little eyes as paused like these, Mummy, take cover.
- 5:01Speaker 2: I want to go with you.
- 5:02Speaker 3: You have to choose between mister Struggles and Joe Hildebrand.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Only one can get off the.
- 5:07Speaker 5: As much as I like Joe, I'd definitely go into
- 5:09Speaker 5: the Struggles.
- 5:10Speaker 4: I'm sorry I would.
- 5:11Speaker 5: I apologize you are an esteemed colleague of mine and
- 5:14Speaker 5: Joe Hildebrand, but I would definitely go from mister Struggles.
- 5:18Speaker 3: We're joking about this, right, but people regard their pets
- 5:21Speaker 3: as their children.
- 5:22Speaker 4: No, I agree. I'm all for pets and the won place.
- 5:25Speaker 3: But I'm all for some people would seriously argue that
- 5:28Speaker 3: there's no more value to a human life than to
- 5:30Speaker 3: a pets.
- 5:32Speaker 4: Look, people do.
- 5:33Speaker 6: An X of mine, who is an animal liberationist, says
- 5:36Speaker 6: and still believes to this day, that a human beings
- 5:38Speaker 6: life is no more valuable than an ant.
- 5:40Speaker 4: But also, don't forget, James, that there are a.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Lot of puppies to take off the aircraft.
- 5:45Speaker 5: There are some couples that can't fall pregnant, so they
- 5:47Speaker 5: do genuinely have their dogs.
- 5:50Speaker 4: Or their cats, and they are their children. So you
- 5:53Speaker 4: can understand. I think you can understand that.
- 5:55Speaker 3: I can understand a person loving a pet. I can't
- 5:58Speaker 3: understand person putting an animal before or another human being.
- 6:01Speaker 5: Well, there are people that do it but you know what,
- 6:02Speaker 5: I feel like, this raises a bigger question about how
- 6:05Speaker 5: you feel about having these pets in the cabins. As
- 6:08Speaker 5: much as I like pets, I don't want them in
- 6:10Speaker 5: the cabins, to be honest, because what happens if it
- 6:12Speaker 5: starts barking, it relieves itself. And look, children already on aircrafts,
- 6:19Speaker 5: and I do feel sorry for parents at the best
- 6:21Speaker 5: of times.
- 6:21Speaker 4: But when the.
- 6:22Speaker 5: Kids are screaming and screaming, very sorry to mums and
- 6:26Speaker 5: dads out there, it is a bit of frustrating. But
- 6:29Speaker 5: can you imagine a dog barking or kids then setting
- 6:31Speaker 5: off dogs and suddenly you go, oh, he's howling dogs
- 6:34Speaker 5: down the aisle.
- 6:36Speaker 1: It's a lot there already.
- 6:37Speaker 6: It's like dogs and cats, right, And so pretty soon
- 6:40Speaker 6: the mouse lobby is going.
- 6:41Speaker 1: To start to fire arm.
- 6:42Speaker 6: So mouse lobby, let the dogs and the cats on.
- 6:44Speaker 6: I've just got a tiny little pet that takes up
- 6:47Speaker 6: a fracture of this space. Why won't you let that on?
- 6:49Speaker 6: And eventually the airlines say all right, that's fine, or go,
- 6:52Speaker 6: and soon you will have a situation where you have dogs,
- 6:55Speaker 6: cats and mice all on the same aircraft. Now, I
- 7:00Speaker 6: don't know if you have ever seen a Warner Brothers cartoon.
- 7:03Speaker 6: But that is not a good combination. That is when
- 7:06Speaker 6: things really you know.
- 7:08Speaker 4: I wonder if you've got allergies.
- 7:09Speaker 5: If you've got allergies and you're sitting next to a
- 7:11Speaker 5: dog or a cat, You've.
- 7:13Speaker 3: Got a five hour flight tomorrow, So I've got a
- 7:15Speaker 3: five hour see who's sitting next to you. But I mean,
- 7:17Speaker 3: people have enough trouble with leaving their luggage on the
- 7:21Speaker 3: plane in the event of an emergency exit, to the
- 7:24Speaker 3: point where airlines are now talking about I hope they
- 7:27Speaker 3: never do this, but locking the overhead luggage compartments to
- 7:31Speaker 3: prevent people from being able to access luggage if they
- 7:34Speaker 3: have to.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Get off the plane, that's fair enough.
- 7:36Speaker 3: Then they've got the problem of people exiting aircraft with
- 7:39Speaker 3: their phone trying to video the plane on fire or
- 7:41Speaker 3: whatever that's been around the world, which.
- 7:44Speaker 6: We want to encourage, by the way, because we need
- 7:46Speaker 6: that footage for our news.
- 7:47Speaker 3: It would help the late debate format, no doubt. So
- 7:50Speaker 3: they've already got those problems. Put whiskers or Snuggles or
- 7:54Speaker 3: Spot or Fido.
- 7:55Speaker 2: On the plane.
- 7:57Speaker 4: But I do agree.
- 7:58Speaker 5: I think that you know the rules that you can't
- 8:01Speaker 5: take your handbag or your personal items with you if
- 8:03Speaker 5: you have to go down the slide or you have
- 8:05Speaker 5: to go to emergency.
- 8:06Speaker 6: Thinking about the rules. Sem grab your phone, grab your wallet,
- 8:10Speaker 6: grab your dog, and away you go. You're not going
- 8:12Speaker 6: to think now, what was it? Yeah, but I feel
- 8:14Speaker 6: like I wasn't paying about it.
- 8:15Speaker 5: You should think about it, leave it there, just get on.
- 8:17Speaker 5: Don't you think just survival mode would get playing immediately.
- 8:22Speaker 6: Still and watches the safety demonstration before each No, I'm not.
- 8:26Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's like a common thing, just just
- 8:30Speaker 5: I'm a bit of a rule rule stickler for the rules.
- 8:32Speaker 5: So maybe maybe that's just me there.
- 8:35Speaker 4: Look, let's move on.
- 8:36Speaker 5: The boss of the ABC, Hugh Marx. He has gone
- 8:39Speaker 5: on his own network to defend Grace Tame or the
- 8:44Speaker 5: appointment of Grace Tame of course, to that podcast about autism. Now,
- 8:50Speaker 5: he's made some interesting comments and I just want to
- 8:52Speaker 5: play them to you here and I'll give you my
- 8:55Speaker 5: opinion of it after have a listen to this.
- 8:58Speaker 7: You know, there's a balance and all the things to be,
- 9:02Speaker 7: you know, for the ABC to be ensuring that we
- 9:04Speaker 7: bring great content to wear and also acknowledging that, you know,
- 9:07Speaker 7: with some of the people that we work with, sometimes
- 9:09Speaker 7: there will be controversies. You know, I've spoken to Grace
- 9:12Speaker 7: and I know, you know what, she really abhorses violence
- 9:16Speaker 7: of any kind, particularly violence against women and children. And
- 9:20Speaker 7: I think everybody can relate to what she really believes in.
- 9:25Speaker 5: What bizarre comments to make, I'm just going to break
- 9:28Speaker 5: them down. Firstly, he says that there's a balance that
- 9:31Speaker 5: needs to be struck. Well, as the boss of the ABC,
- 9:35Speaker 5: does he think that his own network strikes a balance
- 9:38Speaker 5: on the daily.
- 9:38Speaker 4: Because I would beg to differ.
- 9:40Speaker 5: Secondly, is he seriously suggesting that taxpayers, because we're the
- 9:44Speaker 5: ones that are going to be funding this podcast calls
- 9:47Speaker 5: or called autism AF that US taxpayers then just ignore
- 9:52Speaker 5: the controversies surrounding this recruit. I mean, this is a
- 9:54Speaker 5: woman who chanted globalize the into Fada. What sort of
- 9:59Speaker 5: a message is he's sending to Jewish Australians.
- 10:02Speaker 4: It's sort of to.
- 10:03Speaker 5: Me it was just fobbing off any concerns they had
- 10:06Speaker 5: and fobbing them off as oh, well, it's just controversial.
- 10:09Speaker 5: It simply doesn't matter. Thirty says, I think that everyone
- 10:13Speaker 5: can relate to what.
- 10:14Speaker 4: She believes in. Well, which part of what.
- 10:17Speaker 5: She believes in the globalized the into FATA or the
- 10:20Speaker 5: fact that maybe she said October seventh, the rape victims
- 10:25Speaker 5: at the hands of her musk was propaganda? Which part
- 10:28Speaker 5: do we think that we are on the same page
- 10:32Speaker 5: as Grace Tame. But overall just to fob it off
- 10:35Speaker 5: really as oh, well, yes, there have been some controversies.
- 10:39Speaker 5: I think that's actually just thumbing their nose. Is something
- 10:42Speaker 5: their nose to taxpayers who don't agree with what Grace
- 10:46Speaker 5: Tam has said and certainly don't like what she stands
- 10:48Speaker 5: for for and don't want to be paying her wages
- 10:51Speaker 5: nor this podcast.
- 10:53Speaker 3: To call it a controversy is a massive cop out.
- 10:55Speaker 3: It controversy is this value neutral statement? You know, controversy?
- 11:00Speaker 6: There was an incident that globalizing DEFATA, some people say,
- 11:04Speaker 6: don't globalize.
- 11:06Speaker 3: So total cop out by the boss of the ABC.
- 11:08Speaker 3: And then he starts to talk about how it's a
- 11:10Speaker 3: good podcast and therefore worthy, which.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Completely misses the point.
- 11:14Speaker 3: No one's arguing whether the podcast she's doing is good
- 11:19Speaker 3: or otherwise. The argument is over what she said and
- 11:22Speaker 3: whether or not she should be platformed. There is a
- 11:25Speaker 3: way for the ABC, or there would have been a
- 11:27Speaker 3: way for the ABC and for Grace Team to fix this.
- 11:31Speaker 3: He had a private conversation with her where he apparently
- 11:34Speaker 3: assured her that she assured him that she doesn't, you know,
- 11:38Speaker 3: believe in violence, et cetera, et cetera. The problem is
- 11:41Speaker 3: she made the public that she made the statement publicly, right,
- 11:45Speaker 3: so it's not good enough for her to walk that
- 11:47Speaker 3: back privately with the boss of the ABC. If she'd
- 11:51Speaker 3: come out and said, you know what, I shouldn't have
- 11:53Speaker 3: said what I said, I don't mean X y Z,
- 11:57Speaker 3: I apologie, et cetera, et cetera, it would probably be
- 11:59Speaker 3: played on. But for them to have had a private conversation,
- 12:02Speaker 3: it's all good. If you knew what she really thought,
- 12:05Speaker 3: you'd be on board.
- 12:06Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's buying that.
- 12:07Speaker 6: Do you want to know my hot take, gimmick. I
- 12:09Speaker 6: actually don't think she should be canceled at all. I
- 12:11Speaker 6: think she should be allowed to go ahead with the podcast,
- 12:13Speaker 6: and I don't think that is the problem. I think
- 12:16Speaker 6: the problem is that because I don't I think once
- 12:19Speaker 6: you fall for the whole cancel culture trap. She said
- 12:21Speaker 6: something that I don't agree with or I find offensive
- 12:23Speaker 6: once on this platform, they're sure she should lose this platform.
- 12:27Speaker 6: I never liked that. I don't like it. And I
- 12:29Speaker 6: think that, you know, people tend to fall into their
- 12:31Speaker 6: sides and just do it purely based on politics instead
- 12:34Speaker 6: of principle. If it's someone they disagree with, you have
- 12:36Speaker 6: to find to cancel them someone they agree with. You're
- 12:39Speaker 6: all a bunch of you know, humorous woke cancel culture
- 12:42Speaker 6: and lefty love is you can't take a joke. But
- 12:44Speaker 6: I think the real problem here is that with the
- 12:47Speaker 6: ABC time and time again, all these people who are
- 12:51Speaker 6: you know, problematic, as Charlie Pickering would say, And I
- 12:56Speaker 6: do have a problem with him being such a soft
- 12:59Speaker 6: I can't say the next word that he would, you know,
- 13:01Speaker 6: have the balls to say it was problematic. And then
- 13:03Speaker 6: as soon as there was a backlas, oh no, that's
- 13:05Speaker 6: not what I said at all. I was taken out
- 13:06Speaker 6: of context.
- 13:07Speaker 2: I was apushed.
- 13:08Speaker 1: I I don't know how the media works.
- 13:11Speaker 4: Ridiculous.
- 13:12Speaker 6: I think that is really piss week. But I do
- 13:16Speaker 6: not think that she should be canceled. And I think
- 13:17Speaker 6: the problem is that there is just not someone else
- 13:22Speaker 6: like Grace Time, but on the other side of politics
- 13:25Speaker 6: that the ABC can point to and say, look, we
- 13:28Speaker 6: have controversial people all the time, and that is the
- 13:30Speaker 6: problem again and again and again for the ABC.
- 13:33Speaker 3: On the canceling issue, I agree with you completely, but
- 13:37Speaker 3: would you grant me this caveat and I reckon you'll
- 13:40Speaker 3: be on board with me with this, Danika. It's the ABC,
- 13:43Speaker 3: which is public money exactly. So we're not just saying
- 13:46Speaker 3: if someone says something I disagree with, they shouldn't be platformed. Anywhere.
- 13:49Speaker 3: I agree with you, we shouldn't cancel people. But when
- 13:52Speaker 3: it's the public broadcaster, which exists for all Australians using
- 13:56Speaker 3: all of our money, you expect them to exercise some.
- 14:00Speaker 6: I think it's more that the problem is that you
- 14:02Speaker 6: expect them to represent views across the spectrum, and clearly
- 14:06Speaker 6: that ABC has a tendency and it's not again, it's
- 14:09Speaker 6: not entirely its fault. It kind of isn't. It's not
- 14:12Speaker 6: in time, it's managements fault. It's staff are very very
- 14:14Speaker 6: left wing. There was a really weird survey that was
- 14:17Speaker 6: done yoks ago that found that those who completed the survey,
- 14:20Speaker 6: I think something like seventy percent voted green. Among staff
- 14:24Speaker 6: whether I don't think it was particularly scientifically weighted. And
- 14:27Speaker 6: then you've got the audience, which is, if anything, even
- 14:30Speaker 6: more left wing. Again, so this is an audience that
- 14:32Speaker 6: you can see on Twitter. They this is why they
- 14:34Speaker 6: had to shut down the Twitter feed of Q and
- 14:37Speaker 6: A and then shut down Q and A altogether, because
- 14:39Speaker 6: they think Patricia Cavellis is a liberal stooge, but not
- 14:43Speaker 6: like everyone's Sky News. They think that she's a communist.
- 14:46Speaker 6: They think she's absolutely so if they try to move
- 14:49Speaker 6: to the mainstream, their core audience goes absolutely fairal And says, oh,
- 14:53Speaker 6: they're selling out, you know, like David Spears on Insiders
- 14:57Speaker 6: or whatever whatever. And of course if they try to
- 15:00Speaker 6: move to you know, appeal to those people who think
- 15:04Speaker 6: that they're just normal, but they're actually just batch it
- 15:06Speaker 6: crazy trots on Twitter, if they try to appease them,
- 15:10Speaker 6: of course they look ridiculous. And so you've got a
- 15:12Speaker 6: thing like this which you know, you put Grace Tame
- 15:14Speaker 6: in there, all of their kind of inner circle of constituency.
- 15:17Speaker 1: That's a great idea, what a great fit. Blah blah blah.
- 15:19Speaker 6: She's the most high profile autistic person in Australia. She's
- 15:22Speaker 6: proud media communicator, fantastic, and then as soon as it.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Hits the rest of the world, it's a bit like
- 15:29Speaker 1: the budget.
- 15:29Speaker 6: You know, it does well on the focus groups, as
- 15:31Speaker 6: soon as it makes contact with reality, everyone goes, oh
- 15:33Speaker 6: my god, what the But if the ABC could say, well,
- 15:36Speaker 6: look we also have you know, the Pauline Hanson podcast.
- 15:40Speaker 4: Oh yes, right, can you imagine that?
- 15:43Speaker 6: Never so they're always erring on the side. You know,
- 15:46Speaker 6: the Antonette latoof thing would have been fine if they
- 15:49Speaker 6: also had another host who'd been chast died for being
- 15:53Speaker 6: pro Israel or.
- 15:54Speaker 5: Hu Mark said in This on This on Air today
- 15:57Speaker 5: that she was signed before she those controversial comments about Israel.
- 16:02Speaker 5: But I don't think that that makes any difference. I
- 16:05Speaker 5: think it actually makes it worse, to be honest, that
- 16:07Speaker 5: you still continue to with her employment even though she said.
- 16:11Speaker 4: What she said.
- 16:12Speaker 6: If you're going to be bold and controversial and take
- 16:15Speaker 6: risks and be prepared to you know, you know, get
- 16:18Speaker 6: out there and do edgy things, then do it. But
- 16:22Speaker 6: do it on both sides. Don't just do it. There's
- 16:24Speaker 6: no point just being edgy on the activist left and
- 16:27Speaker 6: then claiming I know, but otherwise, where have.
- 16:30Speaker 2: You listened to any of her podcasts? Have you?
- 16:33Speaker 6: No?
- 16:33Speaker 2: I listened to a bit.
- 16:34Speaker 3: The thought the thing I found most fascinating was it
- 16:36Speaker 3: was less about autism and more about her sexuality.
- 16:39Speaker 4: What did she say?
- 16:40Speaker 2: Well, did she's like?
- 16:42Speaker 3: I'm not sure if she's gay or by, but there
- 16:46Speaker 3: was a long conversation with Yumi Stein's about that. I
- 16:49Speaker 3: was expecting to hear about autism, and it was more.
- 16:51Speaker 4: It was all about herself, quite a bit of I'm.
- 16:54Speaker 5: Still confused as well, why the ABC would approve the
- 16:57Speaker 5: title of this podcastif I want to make it cool
- 17:02Speaker 5: af as F, I don't think that's appropriate for the
- 17:06Speaker 5: public broadcaster.
- 17:07Speaker 6: Appealing to They're obviously appealing to a younger, funkier audience
- 17:11Speaker 6: that I don't think that's appropriate.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Wait, do we talk about Hello Fresh?
- 17:14Speaker 1: But should we move back?
- 17:15Speaker 4: I guess we should move by just talk about.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Pauline Hansen for a second, because it's been absolutely fascinating
- 17:20Speaker 3: to watch the evolution of one nation, but also the
- 17:23Speaker 3: way that one nation is regarded by their opponents. For
- 17:26Speaker 3: the longest time, we were told this is a protest vote,
- 17:29Speaker 3: it's the bubbles going to burst. Then we were told
- 17:32Speaker 3: it's only a problem for the coalition. It's not a
- 17:35Speaker 3: problem for Labor at all. Now we've got the Labor
- 17:39Speaker 3: Party advertising to supporters please donate money so that we
- 17:43Speaker 3: can fight off One Nation. The Labor Party have started
- 17:47Speaker 3: advertising online for supporters to donate twenty seven dollars to
- 17:51Speaker 3: slow One Nation's momentum, which is interesting because they seem
- 17:55Speaker 3: to think that if they just raise enough money to
- 17:57Speaker 3: have a campaign, that will make the difference, rather than
- 18:00Speaker 3: understanding people are voting for one Nation because they're concerned
- 18:04Speaker 3: about the issues. Maybe Labor should change track. The other
- 18:07Speaker 3: thing about their fundraising campaign I thought was hilarious Denika
- 18:10Speaker 3: was actually say in the advertisement asking people to donate,
- 18:14Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of people who read this advertisement will
- 18:17Speaker 3: not donate, which you know.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Anything about fundraising?
- 18:19Speaker 3: Point, don't tell people that probably no one is going
- 18:22Speaker 3: to give, but would you consider giving?
- 18:24Speaker 2: You never raised money by that, They're hopeless.
- 18:26Speaker 5: They're absolutely hopeless in the middle of a cost of
- 18:29Speaker 5: living crisis.
- 18:30Speaker 4: Labour's got this begging bowl out going.
- 18:32Speaker 5: Please sir, give me some more. We've got to counter
- 18:35Speaker 5: one Nation. I actually think that this just says so
- 18:38Speaker 5: much about how concerned the party is about the rise
- 18:42Speaker 5: of one nation and they say, no, we don't look
- 18:44Speaker 5: at the polls.
- 18:45Speaker 4: The polls mean absolutely nothing.
- 18:47Speaker 5: Clearly, this is not the case when you're going around begging,
- 18:50Speaker 5: begging for donations. The other thing that I would mention
- 18:53Speaker 5: is I think that the coalition. I mean, you look
- 18:57Speaker 5: today we heard the opposition leader finally make some concessions
- 19:01Speaker 5: that perhaps, okay, you know what, we might have to
- 19:03Speaker 5: do a deal with one nation in order to actually
- 19:06Speaker 5: boot this Labor government out. It's the first time we've
- 19:08Speaker 5: really heard it. But prior to now you've seen both
- 19:11Speaker 5: the National Party and the Liberal Party almost at war
- 19:14Speaker 5: with one nation. And I'll show you this quote from
- 19:18Speaker 5: Liberal MP Andrew Hasty.
- 19:20Speaker 4: This is what he said.
- 19:22Speaker 5: Pauline Hanson's problem is that she is MAGA first, even
- 19:26Speaker 5: when the Australian people suffer the economic consequences. Our first
- 19:30Speaker 5: loyalty must be to the Australian people, not to ideology
- 19:34Speaker 5: like MAGA, but to the Australian people first and foremost. Now,
- 19:39Speaker 5: Pauline Hansen was on Paul Murray hosted by Caleb Bond
- 19:42Speaker 5: last night and she said, oh, I thought it meant
- 19:43Speaker 5: making Australia great again. And she thought it meant a compliment,
- 19:47Speaker 5: but Andrew Hasty meant it as a you know, she's
- 19:50Speaker 5: very trump esque, that she's maga the red wave type thing.
- 19:54Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson was on a podcast and she was asked
- 19:56Speaker 3: whether or not she supports Trump's war against Iran, and
- 19:59Speaker 3: she was very supportive, making the point the worst thing
- 20:02Speaker 3: that could happen to the world is not high petrol prices,
- 20:05Speaker 3: but Iran having a nuclear weapon. And then she was asked,
- 20:09Speaker 3: is there any criticisms she would make of Donald Trump?
- 20:12Speaker 3: And she declined to criticize Trump. So Andrew Hasty obviously
- 20:16Speaker 3: believes maybe a way to undermine Pauline Hanson in the
- 20:19Speaker 3: same way that Dutton was undermined by being too closely
- 20:22Speaker 3: associated with Trump, is let's tell everybody that Pauline Hanson's
- 20:26Speaker 3: in Trump's corner. Trump is unpopular with sixty two percent
- 20:29Speaker 3: of the population, Pauline Hanson will be unpopular by association.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Seems silly to me in two regards.
- 20:35Speaker 3: Number One, if the Coalition really think that linking Pauline
- 20:39Speaker 3: Hanson with Donald Trump is going to be bought by
- 20:42Speaker 3: the populace who are voting one nation, I think he's delusional.
- 20:47Speaker 3: Second is it not a dangerous game for the Coalition
- 20:50Speaker 3: to play trying to use Donald Trump as the boogeyman.
- 20:54Speaker 3: Didn't the Coalition accuse Anthony Albanezi of playing fast and
- 20:57Speaker 3: loose with national security by dissing Donald Trump our major ally.
- 21:03Speaker 3: What the heck is Andrew Hasty doing trying to make
- 21:06Speaker 3: Donald Trump the boogeyman when he's our major ally and
- 21:10Speaker 3: the guarantee of our security, which the Coalition has always
- 21:14Speaker 3: banged on about.
- 21:15Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think Andrew Hasty's problem is that Pauline
- 21:18Speaker 6: Hanson is stealing his natural base. He was meant to
- 21:21Speaker 6: be the more sort of muscular, patriotic face of the coalition. Obviously,
- 21:27Speaker 6: Angus Taylor won that leadership ballot, but he was always
- 21:30Speaker 6: We've got our sort of you know, our own little
- 21:33Speaker 6: Matt Canavan or our own little sort of mini one
- 21:35Speaker 6: nation kind of guy in the wings. He's an ex soldier,
- 21:39Speaker 6: he's very charismatic, he's telegenic, and he you know, and
- 21:42Speaker 6: he can fill that void that would appeal to, you know,
- 21:45Speaker 6: people on the right who wants sort of conservative patriotic values,
- 21:50Speaker 6: and Pauline Hanson in one nation just eating it all up.
- 21:54Speaker 1: And it's the same.
- 21:55Speaker 6: So he's the sort of embodiment of the whole existential
- 21:57Speaker 6: crisis that the coalition faces. And of course, if they
- 22:00Speaker 6: do do a coalition with one nation a preference steal
- 22:03Speaker 6: and one nation come in over the top of the coalitions,
- 22:07Speaker 6: that preference steel is a coalition's death warrant because one
- 22:09Speaker 6: nation just then just take all their seats and they
- 22:11Speaker 6: become the new opposition. So the other interesting thing though,
- 22:16Speaker 6: is that we know what happens when people try to
- 22:18Speaker 6: link Pauline Hansson with Donald Trump and blame her for
- 22:21Speaker 6: the war in Iran. One nation wins in a landslide,
- 22:24Speaker 6: because that is exactly what get Up did in the
- 22:26Speaker 6: Parah by election. And they had more than a point
- 22:29Speaker 6: six hundred thousand dollars in a single by election. That
- 22:33Speaker 6: is an eye wateringly huge amount of money for anyone
- 22:37Speaker 6: to spend in a by election, let alone someone who's
- 22:39Speaker 6: not technically one of the major parties. But get Up
- 22:43Speaker 6: raised all that money, pissed it up against the wall
- 22:46Speaker 6: and was based on ads that again, stop me if
- 22:49Speaker 6: you've heard this before. They said, prove that people stopped
- 22:53Speaker 6: voting for Pauline Hanson after they'd seen these ads linking
- 22:56Speaker 6: her with Donald Trump blaming her for the war in Iran,
- 22:59Speaker 6: blaming her for high appure prices. None of that happened.
- 23:02Speaker 6: It is absolute, one hundred percent bollocks. And the way
- 23:06Speaker 6: that they raised all that money was in an email
- 23:09Speaker 6: that looked uncannily similar to the one that Labor Party
- 23:13Speaker 6: is sending out. And again you're banging the money these
- 23:17Speaker 6: you cannot out campaign Pauline Hanson. It is not a
- 23:20Speaker 6: lack of money or a lack of slick campaign advertising
- 23:24Speaker 6: that is going to is going to fix Pauline Hanson.
- 23:28Speaker 1: In fact, it's it's something.
- 23:32Speaker 6: It's you've got to find out what's happening right at
- 23:34Speaker 6: the grassroots.
- 23:36Speaker 3: Let Joe have a look at Tenure Plebisic on morning television.
- 23:39Speaker 3: This was her tactic of trying to discredit One Nation's
- 23:43Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Get a load of this.
- 23:46Speaker 5: I think if you talk to Barnaby about who's picking
- 23:48Speaker 5: fruit in the regular elect.
- 23:53Speaker 4: You don't like listening to women much to your Barnaby.
- 23:56Speaker 5: I'm happy to let your immigration about.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Oh of course that's I'm a sexist.
- 24:04Speaker 3: The thing we hate about the Labor Party is they
- 24:06Speaker 3: love identity politics. If she thinks playing the identity politics.
- 24:11Speaker 3: Car is going to somehow discredit one nation.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Yeah, she too, is just a delusion, As Andrew, he is.
- 24:16Speaker 5: So wrong, and this is the left's favorite thing. They
- 24:19Speaker 5: always this is the fallback, isn't it, to talk about
- 24:21Speaker 5: sexism and misogyny? I mean, how many times did we
- 24:24Speaker 5: hear that from Julia Gillard?
- 24:25Speaker 4: Even today?
- 24:26Speaker 5: I was listening to justinto Alan in her press conference
- 24:28Speaker 5: when she was talking again about Ditch the Witch, and
- 24:30Speaker 5: she made comments to the effect of, oh, this is
- 24:33Speaker 5: offensive to women and girls and even boys.
- 24:36Speaker 2: She said, the boys.
- 24:39Speaker 4: That's what she said. That's what she said. I don't
- 24:41Speaker 4: know why. I don't know why she would say that.
- 24:43Speaker 5: I just think that shit was just spitting chips at
- 24:45Speaker 5: that point. But as a woman, stop using that line. Okay,
- 24:49Speaker 5: it's actually really offensive. Stop using this woman women. You
- 24:52Speaker 5: don't listen to him, please, Barnaby Joyce was just trying
- 24:55Speaker 5: to make a point, and it just goes to show
- 24:57Speaker 5: once again how threatened the Labor Party is by one nation,
- 25:01Speaker 5: and so is the and so is the Liberal Party
- 25:03Speaker 5: in the coalition. I mean, Andrew Hasty, what they don't
- 25:05Speaker 5: realize is every time they dis one nation, voters support
- 25:11Speaker 5: one nation. Even more, there is a reason why that
- 25:13Speaker 5: party is now the most popular, and we've seen it
- 25:16Speaker 5: in news poll Redbridge, the Sky News polling. Now there
- 25:19Speaker 5: is a reason why. So the more that they criticize
- 25:22Speaker 5: her and their policies, the more conservative voters go, bugger you.
- 25:26Speaker 4: She speaks to me on that.
- 25:28Speaker 3: It's not because voters are stupid or blindly loyal to
- 25:31Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson. I think it's because voters are concerned about issues. Yes,
- 25:35Speaker 3: and when the Labor Party or the coalition play the
- 25:38Speaker 3: man instead of the ball, it's just further proof to
- 25:41Speaker 3: disenchanted voters that you guys only care about yourselves, you
- 25:45Speaker 3: only care about politics. You're not listening to us, you're
- 25:48Speaker 3: trying to discredit Pauline Hanson.
- 25:50Speaker 2: We are concerned about the issues.
- 25:52Speaker 1: So it's not.
- 25:52Speaker 2: Blind loyalty to Naeleen.
- 25:54Speaker 3: No, it's a frustration with political parties not addressing the issues.
- 25:58Speaker 6: I think that's exactly right, or more even that they
- 26:01Speaker 6: are not addressing their pain they're suffering and what they
- 26:06Speaker 6: are going through, their economic pain and suffering. And again
- 26:09Speaker 6: it's exactly what the left tried to do with Donald Trump.
- 26:12Speaker 6: Is there always a terrible person? He said, this, he
- 26:14Speaker 6: used this language, he's sexist, he's racist, he did all
- 26:19Speaker 6: this stuff, and people just go, we don't care, we
- 26:21Speaker 6: don't care. We know, we know he's a bad dude
- 26:24Speaker 6: or his dodgy. We're just voting for him. To stick
- 26:27Speaker 6: it to you, We're just voting for that person. Every
- 26:30Speaker 6: time you say how bad they are, our inner response
- 26:33Speaker 6: is yes, we know, and we are still voting for
- 26:37Speaker 6: him or her in this case because they are better
- 26:41Speaker 6: than you. That's how angry we are, that's how frustrated
- 26:44Speaker 6: we are. So if you want to actually get it
- 26:46Speaker 6: paul and Hanson, forget about all the slick ads, forget
- 26:49Speaker 6: about all the campaigns spending, because I have actually discovered
- 26:53Speaker 6: you'll be pleased to know another service to the great
- 26:56Speaker 6: Australian Left.
- 26:57Speaker 1: I've actually discovered.
- 26:58Speaker 6: What will be a silver bullet, the secret weapon that
- 27:02Speaker 6: will finally stop Pauline Hanson once and for all. Yes,
- 27:09Speaker 6: it is a protest against Paulay in Perth, organized by
- 27:14Speaker 6: the w A Greens and the WA Socialist Wow. Check
- 27:20Speaker 6: out this lineup. I mean, how could Pauline possibly possibly
- 27:25Speaker 6: withstand this amount of political pressure? There speakers are rally
- 27:28Speaker 6: chair Alvin mcgilla Wa Socialist member, not even the boss,
- 27:34Speaker 6: just a member. They probably don't they probably have a
- 27:36Speaker 6: flat office.
- 27:37Speaker 8: Wow.
- 27:38Speaker 6: And you've got Sophie McNeil, Green's MLC in the Wa
- 27:42Speaker 6: State Parliament. Thanks for putting that out, Sophie. And you've
- 27:45Speaker 6: got doctor Muhammad Mustafa Er doctor and humanitarian. And we've
- 27:51Speaker 6: got Oscar Martin Bungelung and camillroy Man and this is
- 27:56Speaker 6: the important part socialist activist. And we've got Vashti Fox.
- 28:01Speaker 6: This is the big guns here.
- 28:02Speaker 1: She's the secretary of the w A Socialists.
- 28:05Speaker 6: And not just an anti fascist activist but a long
- 28:09Speaker 6: time Wow.
- 28:13Speaker 3: How is it one of those speakers on the broch
- 28:15Speaker 3: does not have a kefia. Surely that's some mistake in
- 28:17Speaker 3: the I thought one of them.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Did all of them do?
- 28:20Speaker 6: But Sophie McNeil, who's the Green's MLC, So I probably
- 28:23Speaker 6: had to take it off for take it off for parliament.
- 28:26Speaker 5: But shaking in her boots right now, going I'm done for.
- 28:31Speaker 1: This is the end of Pauline to set foot in w.
- 28:33Speaker 5: She could never go back now after this, this.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Is this is a watch for her else.
- 28:38Speaker 3: That's how you really care about the late debate, Danika,
- 28:42Speaker 3: I know you're on holidays, but you'll be input.
- 28:44Speaker 2: Yeah, so you could go along and give us a
- 28:46Speaker 2: little report.
- 28:46Speaker 4: I could.
- 28:46Speaker 5: I could come beaming live from the late up to
- 28:48Speaker 5: the late debate. That might be quite fun actually.
- 28:51Speaker 6: And think about the wonderful people you'd meet. Oh gosh,
- 28:53Speaker 6: friends that you make.
- 28:54Speaker 5: I'll go there with my Sky News microphone. I'm sure
- 28:56Speaker 5: they welcome me with that with open arms. Now let's
- 28:59Speaker 5: talk about Hello Fresh. You may've heard they're a meal
- 29:02Speaker 5: delivery company. They're in a bit of bother over a
- 29:05Speaker 5: new ad campaign that they have launched to celebrate Pride
- 29:08Speaker 5: Month thanks to its crude undertones.
- 29:11Speaker 4: Now I'll ring up the ad here, read it out
- 29:13Speaker 4: to you.
- 29:14Speaker 5: This is what it says. It says official statement. We
- 29:17Speaker 5: know eating isn't always a top priority this month.
- 29:20Speaker 4: We respect that.
- 29:21Speaker 5: But for those of you who are dot dot dot
- 29:24Speaker 5: prepping dot dot dot, we have an extensive lineup of
- 29:28Speaker 5: high fiber recipes available. Happy Pride now, prepping, prepping. Now,
- 29:34Speaker 5: if you understand, well, I'm not going to explain it.
- 29:37Speaker 4: To our audience. I'm for our audience.
- 29:38Speaker 5: If you get it, you can put two and two
- 29:40Speaker 5: together about the sort of undertones of what it's you're
- 29:44Speaker 5: prepping for basically when you're eating a lot of fibrous foods. Now,
- 29:47Speaker 5: it comes with the caption underneath it says use code
- 29:51Speaker 5: bottoms up for a Pride month discount.
- 29:56Speaker 4: That probably explains it.
- 29:57Speaker 6: That was actually you can get it.
- 29:58Speaker 1: That was that was aw feedback.
- 30:00Speaker 6: So someone someone said, as a joke, why don't you
- 30:02Speaker 6: use the phrase.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Bottom bottoms up? Oh that was.
- 30:08Speaker 6: Came back the next day and said it you use it.
- 30:11Speaker 6: You can use it bottoms up and get a discount.
- 30:14Speaker 6: And that's your guy, Maddie. That was who said and said,
- 30:17Speaker 6: you ask, we deliver.
- 30:18Speaker 4: There you go. Okay, so face that, there you go.
- 30:21Speaker 4: So look.
- 30:21Speaker 5: The feedback online has been largely mixed, some people saying
- 30:24Speaker 5: this is a disgrace. Some said never been a subscriber,
- 30:27Speaker 5: but as a parent of an LGBTQ plus kid, I
- 30:30Speaker 5: will be now. Another says I was getting ready to
- 30:32Speaker 5: start my deliveries again, Well that will not be happening.
- 30:36Speaker 5: Subscription canceled, and another one said about to place my
- 30:40Speaker 5: first gay order. Now, look, I'm personally not offended by
- 30:46Speaker 5: this ad. I don't find it offensive. However, it's clearly
- 30:49Speaker 5: had it. It's worked hasn't it, because everyone around the
- 30:53Speaker 5: world is talking about this ad campaign, and I'm sure
- 30:55Speaker 5: that Hello Fresh is patting themselves on the bat going
- 30:58Speaker 5: where we've got our return of investment. However, I think
- 31:01Speaker 5: it is highly, highly inappropriate, and I have no idea
- 31:04Speaker 5: what the hell they were thinking when they're trying to
- 31:06Speaker 5: link food to this sort of activity. And I don't
- 31:11Speaker 5: consider myself apprude by no means, but I think it's
- 31:14Speaker 5: highly inappropriate. But third, I also just think it just
- 31:17Speaker 5: shows us where we're at in society, how low standards
- 31:20Speaker 5: have dropped.
- 31:21Speaker 4: I don't care who you sleep with.
- 31:22Speaker 5: I don't want to know who you sleep with, So
- 31:25Speaker 5: stop telling, stop shoving this sexual proclivities to quote Bob
- 31:29Speaker 5: Catter into our faces all the time.
- 31:32Speaker 4: And that's my concern.
- 31:33Speaker 6: You'll be pleased to know, Danathan, you are not alone
- 31:35Speaker 6: in that view. You are now officially a member of
- 31:39Speaker 6: the humorless lesbian community. That is the response from other
- 31:43Speaker 6: people of the LGBTQI plus community. Oh my god, I
- 31:47Speaker 6: can't believe that you are like making fun about you know,
- 31:50Speaker 6: we've been trying to break the stigma that gay people
- 31:52Speaker 6: are just all about having sex all the time, and
- 31:54Speaker 6: you know that we're actually much more boring than that. Seriously,
- 31:57Speaker 6: this is a lengthy price on X by a self
- 32:00Speaker 6: identified lesbian named Annie O'Brien. Self identified self identified, so
- 32:05Speaker 6: it must be true, said, Hello Fresh decided that the
- 32:08Speaker 6: best way to celebrate Pride Month was to post jokes
- 32:11Speaker 6: about prepping for and offering high fiber recipes to help
- 32:15Speaker 6: people prep and so it goes on and on. So
- 32:19Speaker 6: if this has ever been proof that you know, horseshoe
- 32:23Speaker 6: politics always results in a full circle if you think
- 32:27Speaker 6: it's offensive. So to actual people on the hard left.
- 32:31Speaker 3: I think Hello Fresh and mistaking social media applause for revenue.
- 32:35Speaker 3: They've got a lot of attention, but bud Light had
- 32:39Speaker 3: a lot of attention too.
- 32:40Speaker 4: Oh that went disaster with Dylan.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Was Dylan mulvaney. I suspect the same thing will happen
- 32:47Speaker 2: with Hello Fresh.
- 32:48Speaker 6: I think the difference between that is that this is
- 32:50Speaker 6: funny and that it's not a mainstep.
- 32:52Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people would not believe
- 32:55Speaker 2: that it's funny. A lot of people.
- 32:56Speaker 4: I think it's quite funny. I just think it's distasteful.
- 32:59Speaker 5: I think it's wrong to put it as I said,
- 33:01Speaker 5: I don't think you can link food to what thesis.
- 33:03Speaker 6: I just think you never had an oyster.
- 33:05Speaker 4: It's just what.
- 33:07Speaker 2: It's a strange marketing idea.
- 33:10Speaker 6: That's what an aphrodisia.
- 33:11Speaker 4: Oh, an aphrodisiac.
- 33:12Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we really want a culture where there are
- 33:14Speaker 3: zero boundaries, zero decorum.
- 33:16Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying to you.
- 33:17Speaker 2: I road discretion, that's what always that the kind of
- 33:19Speaker 2: will be with.
- 33:19Speaker 5: I think it just shows where society is at that
- 33:22Speaker 5: it's very low grade, very where we're putting you.
- 33:25Speaker 6: Guys hang out with the Marxist lesbians.
- 33:28Speaker 3: Then there you go really quickly because I want to
- 33:29Speaker 3: talk about Australian music before we go to a break,
- 33:32Speaker 3: mainly because I want to show you the song that
- 33:35Speaker 3: was key in my childhood.
- 33:37Speaker 2: But the Guardian have.
- 33:39Speaker 3: Talked about the fact that if you go back to
- 33:41Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties, the Australian music scene was dominated by
- 33:46Speaker 3: local bands. In fact, thirty percent of the Top one
- 33:48Speaker 3: hundred back in the nineteen nineties was typically Australian artists,
- 33:52Speaker 3: but in twenty twenty three there were just three Australian
- 33:56Speaker 3: artists in the top one hundred. Last year only five
- 33:59Speaker 3: in the top one hundred and so they're speculating as
- 34:01Speaker 3: to some of the reasons for this, some of which
- 34:04Speaker 3: would include the fact that we now stream and so
- 34:07Speaker 3: Australian artists are literally competing with musos from all over
- 34:10Speaker 3: the world.
- 34:11Speaker 2: We listen to a lot.
- 34:12Speaker 3: Of old songs now, so songs never get old. We
- 34:14Speaker 3: just listened to them over and over again. But it
- 34:17Speaker 3: started thinking, what would we say are some of the
- 34:20Speaker 3: iconic Australian songs?
- 34:22Speaker 2: So I reckon, we'll let you go first.
- 34:23Speaker 5: Anika all right, here is what I believe is one
- 34:25Speaker 5: of the key iconic songs.
- 34:27Speaker 4: I prefaced by.
- 34:27Speaker 5: Say the band didn't do as good here in Australia
- 34:30Speaker 5: as overseas, but this.
- 34:31Speaker 4: Is my pick.
- 34:35Speaker 8: I've got to know. I've got that Tokay.
- 34:47Speaker 4: And Michael Hutchins looking absolutely fantastic there. I just say
- 34:51Speaker 4: so as well.
- 34:52Speaker 1: They didn't do as well here as they did like
- 34:54Speaker 1: they did pretty well.
- 34:55Speaker 4: They did pretty well, but they did better. I feel
- 34:57Speaker 4: like over.
- 34:57Speaker 6: That there were people so incredible because exactly Australian bands
- 35:01Speaker 6: do well here and then just can't cut it overseas.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Music like that, what's your pic uoe?
- 35:07Speaker 6: Well, I've got the greatest Osi music of all James,
- 35:10Speaker 6: this is the most quintessential Aussie rock song of all
- 35:14Speaker 6: Ossie rock songs. And it's the sort of thing. If
- 35:16Speaker 6: we could just bottle this, there would be no crisis
- 35:18Speaker 6: in the music industry. Have a listen.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Woesdale.
- 35:32Speaker 6: Wow, you can't have a hit song without ding dong?
- 35:36Speaker 2: Is that the bi centennial?
- 35:37Speaker 6: Was it? That was the bi centennial theme song, Celebration
- 35:41Speaker 6: of a Nation and sung by Rick Price and someone
- 35:46Speaker 6: else and I think Kylie pops up in it. Bobby
- 35:50Speaker 6: Lynn was the other one. See this guy knows everything
- 35:53Speaker 6: and it's just it just reminded me of a happier,
- 35:57Speaker 6: more joyous time. I thought, how, how could you not
- 36:00Speaker 6: love Australia? I thought, I was, I'll go to give.
- 36:03Speaker 2: Your mind right. You know how some music can be
- 36:05Speaker 2: so bad it's good?
- 36:06Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, when I was fourteen years old, this was
- 36:09Speaker 3: number fifteen on the charts.
- 36:14Speaker 8: I'm thinking all that time, rhythm, sense of rhyme.
- 36:26Speaker 2: Wow, I'm an individual, a bloody individual. You can't fool me.
- 36:29Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
- 36:30Speaker 1: I do remember.
- 36:31Speaker 6: I didn't think. I didn't think you could top Celebration
- 36:33Speaker 6: of a Nation, But you've done it.
- 36:34Speaker 4: I think that in excess tops both of those. What
- 36:38Speaker 4: sort of what was that?
- 36:39Speaker 2: You weren't born when that song was around?
- 36:41Speaker 8: You?
- 36:41Speaker 1: Do you know it?
- 36:41Speaker 4: No? I don't know.
- 36:42Speaker 2: I finally found a song. You don't know.
- 36:44Speaker 4: I know this is very rare.
- 36:45Speaker 6: Nah in excess all the way I think winning it's
- 36:47Speaker 6: an individual and he did fool you.
- 36:50Speaker 2: All right, on that note, we're going to go to
- 36:51Speaker 2: a break. Stick around.
- 36:52Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making headlines
- 36:54Speaker 3: in tomorrow's papers, so you get them all here first.
- 36:57Speaker 2: That's next week. Welcome back to the program.
- 37:08Speaker 3: We're just discussing cricket during the ad break, and we
- 37:10Speaker 3: realized Danika knows nothing about cricket.
- 37:12Speaker 2: She does know about Tomorrow's Australian though.
- 37:14Speaker 5: They always make me the dunce, don't they. Okay, let's
- 37:17Speaker 5: look at the Australian Exclusive. There damning letters reveal Victoria's
- 37:21Speaker 5: rot as Allan's premiership titas on the brink Premier just
- 37:25Speaker 5: into Allan's government was forced to provide bailout guarantee letters
- 37:29Speaker 5: to the state's fire agency and environmental watchdog after concerns
- 37:33Speaker 5: emerged about their deteriorating financial positions as labor MPs increasingly
- 37:37Speaker 5: conclude a leadership change and complete reset are the only.
- 37:41Speaker 4: Way to avoid an electoral wipe out.
- 37:43Speaker 5: In November, documents obtained through Freedom of information reveal the
- 37:46Speaker 5: government signed a letter of comfort for Fire Rescue Victoria
- 37:50Speaker 5: and separately approved an EPA funding supplementation and letter of
- 37:54Speaker 5: comfort on November twenty first, twenty twenty four. It basically
- 37:58Speaker 5: assured lenders and auditors the Alan government would continue to
- 38:02Speaker 5: support the agencies financially if required, despite mounting losses and
- 38:05Speaker 5: growing pressure on the balance sheets. Of course, as that
- 38:08Speaker 5: state hurdles to turtles towards our net dead of one
- 38:12Speaker 5: hundred and ninety nine zero point three billion dollars by
- 38:15Speaker 5: twenty twenty nine, twenty thirty, jeeve, things are getting worse.
- 38:20Speaker 1: That letter of comfort hasn't provided much comfort.
- 38:22Speaker 5: The letter of comfort is absolutely diabolical, and you also
- 38:25Speaker 5: almost wander now there'd be a lot of internal leaking happening.
- 38:29Speaker 4: It's all over, it's all done, it's finished.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Yeah, a dead woman wat just.
- 38:34Speaker 3: Really briefly, this article says that they're not expecting a
- 38:37Speaker 3: leadership challenge in the next week. It could happen, all
- 38:41Speaker 3: In Hanson said within the next two weeks, but the
- 38:42Speaker 3: article says it won't be till July or even August.
- 38:46Speaker 3: Why would they wait until August if they're going to
- 38:48Speaker 3: make a change.
- 38:49Speaker 6: Well, presumably that's still going to get the numbers. So
- 38:51Speaker 6: let's not forget that the left still commands a majority
- 38:54Speaker 6: in the caucus. So the right wing candidate Ben Carroll
- 38:58Speaker 6: would have to convince a whole bunch for people to
- 39:00Speaker 6: vote against their own faction and their own factional leader.
- 39:03Speaker 6: So it might be that he's just that he's just
- 39:07Speaker 6: mounting more numbers, or it could be all over bar
- 39:10Speaker 6: the shouting. But what they're going to do now, and
- 39:12Speaker 6: you're talking about all the leaks coming, and I think
- 39:14Speaker 6: this is probable. I don't think there's probably anyone who
- 39:17Speaker 6: you know with half you know, Paul Keating s there's
- 39:19Speaker 6: always backed self interest. It's the only horse. So you know,
- 39:21Speaker 6: that's really trying. You've got to choose between your own
- 39:24Speaker 6: seat and your factional loyalties.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Your seat is always.
- 39:27Speaker 6: Going to come first. What I think is actually really
- 39:29Speaker 6: going on is that they are doing the trick where
- 39:32Speaker 6: they just get all every single problem, every single skeleton
- 39:36Speaker 6: in every single closet, every now, get it out now
- 39:40Speaker 6: hang it around her neck, you know, like her wear.
- 39:44Speaker 6: The blame for absolutely everything, So you're really bringing out
- 39:48Speaker 6: the dead. And so when Ben Carroll takes over as leader,
- 39:53Speaker 6: all that stuff is out there in the public domain
- 39:56Speaker 6: associated with her, none of it comes out after he
- 40:00Speaker 6: and then he blames absolutely everything on her new start.
- 40:04Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah.
- 40:05Speaker 3: Interesting, all right, let's stay in Victoria. Go to the
- 40:07Speaker 3: front page of the Herald's Son. It's sort of inspiring
- 40:11Speaker 3: and sad all at the same time. Tomorrow's front page
- 40:14Speaker 3: Neil Denahurst State Funeral. Addition, Tomorrow's herold Son has eight
- 40:18Speaker 3: pages worth of tributes to a great Australian who will
- 40:22Speaker 3: have a state funeral at the MCG at one o'clock tomorrow.
- 40:26Speaker 3: That funeral being broadcast on a number of television networks.
- 40:31Speaker 3: The front page there, as you can see. I won't
- 40:33Speaker 3: read them all for you, but there's numbers of tributes
- 40:36Speaker 3: printed on the front page and the headline reads thank
- 40:39Speaker 3: you Neil. It'll be interesting to see how many people
- 40:42Speaker 3: they get to the MCG. It'll be a huge crowd,
- 40:45Speaker 3: obviously massive, and the TV audience, I would suggest would
- 40:48Speaker 3: be massive as well, because absolutely he was loved, he
- 40:52Speaker 3: did a lot of good and will always be a
- 40:56Speaker 3: great inspiration.
- 40:57Speaker 4: Well, I just want to read one of those quotes.
- 40:58Speaker 5: It says, when I'm having a bad run, I just
- 41:00Speaker 5: think of Neil, how tough he was, what an inspiration.
- 41:03Speaker 5: Condolences to the dana Her family. And you know what,
- 41:06Speaker 5: I think that sums it up, if that really really does.
- 41:08Speaker 5: Because yet when you're having a bad day, think of
- 41:10Speaker 5: what Neil Danaher went through. But he's still pushed on
- 41:13Speaker 5: and look what he did for our country.
- 41:15Speaker 1: So yeah, problutely.
- 41:16Speaker 6: And I mean even before it was known about Neil
- 41:19Speaker 6: Dana's diagnosis, the dana Her family, I mean.
- 41:21Speaker 1: You would know this.
- 41:22Speaker 6: They are absolute royalty of a Bombers fan. I think
- 41:25Speaker 6: they had four brothers in title that played for the Bombers,
- 41:28Speaker 6: including the great former Captain Terry danahert Td. And so
- 41:34Speaker 6: the family was already like you talk about will they
- 41:37Speaker 6: you know how many people will rock up? I reckon,
- 41:38Speaker 6: there's a reason they chose the mcg is the venue
- 41:40Speaker 6: because they're going to be that many people.
- 41:43Speaker 1: But anyway, God love them.
- 41:44Speaker 6: Rip back to the Advertiser now and obviously we've got
- 41:48Speaker 6: a picture of those little dogs that are on that
- 41:51Speaker 6: Vergin plane, but they're not coming off and anything goes wrong.
- 41:55Speaker 6: But I just love this absolute killer of a splash.
- 41:59Speaker 6: The ties have been just on firelately. The real slim,
- 42:02Speaker 6: shady weight watcher houses, crims, Oh I get that weight,
- 42:07Speaker 6: watch a house, get it, watchhouse weight, Watch your house
- 42:11Speaker 6: works on so many levels. As crims get free diabetes jabs,
- 42:15Speaker 6: taxpayers are funding free doses of popular drug zempic for
- 42:20Speaker 6: South Australian prisoners. The advertiser can reveal inmates with existing
- 42:24Speaker 6: prescriptions for a zepiic may elect to receive the drug
- 42:27Speaker 6: for free through essay health funded by state taxpayers after
- 42:32Speaker 6: being imprisoned. Once in prison, the drug may be prescribed
- 42:35Speaker 6: to prisoners to treat diabetes in accordance with Pharmaceutical Benefits
- 42:40Speaker 6: Scheme guidelines. Look, I know the prison food isn't meant
- 42:43Speaker 6: to be all that great, but I mean that seems
- 42:46Speaker 6: to be a pretty extreme length to go to avoid
- 42:48Speaker 6: eating it.
- 42:49Speaker 4: This was happening in Melbourne.
- 42:50Speaker 5: This is exactly This is a repeat of what we
- 42:52Speaker 5: saw on the Herald Sun because it's happening in Victorian
- 42:55Speaker 5: prisons as well.
- 42:57Speaker 4: The've got nothing else to do do they you know.
- 43:00Speaker 6: Again, I think you know it's fantastic you save on
- 43:03Speaker 6: the catering.
- 43:03Speaker 4: That's right exactly, It's funny.
- 43:06Speaker 3: The headline right weight watch your house as crims get
- 43:08Speaker 3: free diabetes jabs. So is it diabetes or weight that's
- 43:12Speaker 3: being treated here?
- 43:13Speaker 4: Well, I'd like to think it is for some beaties.
- 43:15Speaker 5: It should be for diabetics, because that's what ozmpick was
- 43:18Speaker 5: designed for.
- 43:19Speaker 1: Diabetes.
- 43:20Speaker 5: Yeah, true, but but I mean every man and their
- 43:22Speaker 5: dog goes on a zen pick now where it should
- 43:24Speaker 5: actually be reserved for type two diabetics because they need
- 43:26Speaker 5: it the most in my view. Let's have a look
- 43:29Speaker 5: at the Northern Territory News.
- 43:31Speaker 4: Well, here we go.
- 43:32Speaker 5: I'm just going to read it when he gets that feeling.
- 43:35Speaker 5: It ends in sexuals stealing. A Horny Territory teenager has
- 43:41Speaker 5: been jailed for abducting and ravaging sex dolls after breaking
- 43:45Speaker 5: into a dah and business multiple times.
- 43:47Speaker 6: Good News getting back to its core.
- 43:51Speaker 5: So it said that the top CCTV footage shows teenager
- 43:53Speaker 5: Leon Thompson carrying out his dirty deeds at sexy Land.
- 43:57Speaker 5: That's what's called they caught whatever floats your bike?
- 44:02Speaker 3: Leon on you I reckon they'll be selling a few
- 44:04Speaker 3: copies of the NT News.
- 44:05Speaker 5: I think sexual stealings are rapper, you know, I think
- 44:09Speaker 5: it shows initiative.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Which part the headline or the.
- 44:13Speaker 6: No they're breaking And you know, the if you're going
- 44:16Speaker 6: to if you're going to go around better that you
- 44:18Speaker 6: know it's taking the time to go and do it
- 44:20Speaker 6: to a dole instead of an actual human being.
- 44:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure law enforcement would agree with you
- 44:24Speaker 3: on that, Joe. Let's go to the courier mail. Uh
- 44:27Speaker 3: are we going to the career mail? Yes, yes we are.
- 44:30Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 44:30Speaker 2: Apple backs in our band reads the headline. This is Apple.
- 44:34Speaker 3: I've got their new iPhone and they have updated the
- 44:38Speaker 3: new phone so that parents will have more control over
- 44:41Speaker 3: what their children are browsing, accessing and who they're calling.
- 44:45Speaker 3: And apparently the boss of Apple rang our prime minister
- 44:49Speaker 3: to say you were in part responsible for us developing
- 44:52Speaker 3: this new iPhone.
- 44:54Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi will want to thank you. You're wonderful.
- 44:57Speaker 6: Well, one more thing to be grateful to Anthony aban
- 45:00Speaker 6: Thank you very much, James well said, and just quickly
- 45:03Speaker 6: the cans post box seat betrayal, claims of lavish lives,
- 45:06Speaker 6: luxury suites and what a four hundred thousand dollars fraud.
- 45:10Speaker 6: A community leader, an internationally acclaimed artist among a trio
- 45:13Speaker 6: charge with allegedly defrauding hundreds of thousands of dollars from
- 45:16Speaker 6: to Cape York indigenous organizations after a five year investigation. Again,
- 45:21Speaker 6: great initiative.
- 45:22Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, we're going to go to a Oh no,
- 45:25Speaker 2: we've got one more we have Now.
- 45:27Speaker 4: That's it.
- 45:28Speaker 6: This is what you did?
- 45:29Speaker 5: Are you right?
- 45:30Speaker 4: Are you having a public hallus?
- 45:31Speaker 1: About to get me ladies.
- 45:33Speaker 3: I'm just excited about the story we're going to come
- 45:36Speaker 3: to after the break.
- 45:36Speaker 2: It's a weatherman reporting on a fire in his own studio.
- 45:41Speaker 2: That's next.
- 45:45Speaker 3: Now, you may or may not know this about Dani
- 45:47Speaker 3: because she's a bit of a world traveler.
- 45:50Speaker 2: The Mediterranean.
- 45:51Speaker 3: If you've been to the Mediterranean I have, Yeah, Yeah,
- 45:53Speaker 3: that's about it.
- 45:55Speaker 4: Where is this going?
- 45:57Speaker 5: Yes, the Mediterranean ares Mediterranean arrare in the Mediterranean actually
- 46:02Speaker 5: of a great white shark.
- 46:03Speaker 4: Would you believe?
- 46:04Speaker 5: This rare encounter is believed to be the first time
- 46:06Speaker 5: the predator has been caught underwater in the Mediterranean. This
- 46:09Speaker 5: one here happened in the Strait of Sicily between the
- 46:13Speaker 5: Italian Island and Tunisia. It was found by divers, actually.
- 46:20Speaker 6: Found my divers were cutting fishing nets away from shipwrecks
- 46:26Speaker 6: so as not to catch fish and kill fish. I
- 46:32Speaker 6: would say that that would be a reason just to
- 46:34Speaker 6: leave the nets there, if you know you've got a
- 46:36Speaker 6: shark there. But even after they saw the shark, they
- 46:39Speaker 6: kept going. They said, this is why we've got to
- 46:41Speaker 6: get rid of all these nets. It's like, no, that's
- 46:43Speaker 6: why you've got to keep the nets, because there's a
- 46:45Speaker 6: goddamn shark. Like, what more of a signed you need.
- 46:48Speaker 3: I would have thought that's a pretty good reason to
- 46:50Speaker 3: keep the nets, all right. Our Sky News Weather channel,
- 46:53Speaker 3: we have brilliant meteorologists here at Sky, but I got
- 46:57Speaker 3: to say, I'm not sure any of them are quite
- 46:59Speaker 3: as professional as Noah Simmons, who was doing the weather
- 47:03Speaker 3: for a CBS affiliate in the United States when well,
- 47:06Speaker 3: I'll just let you watch.
- 47:09Speaker 2: And there is a there, there is a fire.
- 47:12Speaker 5: But again we're looking at this tornyad a warning right now,
- 47:15Speaker 5: and this canteens lifted where North were across Greenwood.
- 47:19Speaker 2: A fire in the studio.
- 47:21Speaker 3: Normally he'd report on a fire in a bush somewhere
- 47:24Speaker 3: or you know, out in the rural community. But there
- 47:27Speaker 3: was a fire in the studio. He announced that and
- 47:29Speaker 3: then continued doing it, and then we kept going as
- 47:32Speaker 3: his station producer was busily trying to put out the flame.
- 47:36Speaker 1: Like it's like that.
- 47:37Speaker 5: Do you remember that woman that was in that storm
- 47:39Speaker 5: and she was a reporter and she was like, don't
- 47:42Speaker 5: was she saying?
- 47:43Speaker 2: What was the dog?
- 47:44Speaker 6: We should see if Steve what I'm talking about? We
- 47:46Speaker 6: should go next time Steve Jacobs is doing his guys
- 47:49Speaker 6: just left.
- 47:49Speaker 5: Me stand now, look like an idiot. I'm sit in
- 47:51Speaker 5: there trying to cat someone.
- 47:52Speaker 6: Finish it off.
- 47:53Speaker 5: Do you know what I'm talking about? Don't make unnecessary journeys?
- 47:57Speaker 5: Thank you mal our producer.
- 47:59Speaker 4: Don't you know that one? No, forget it, forget it.
- 48:02Speaker 5: The whole segment has been absolutely bugging up.
- 48:07Speaker 6: We should go and next time Stevie Jacobs doing bulletin,
- 48:10Speaker 6: We'll just going, you know, and just set him on
- 48:11Speaker 6: fire and finishes.
- 48:13Speaker 2: The updse See how professional he really is?
- 48:16Speaker 6: Test his metal. Now, this is something I've been trying
- 48:19Speaker 6: to get into the late debate for well a long time.
- 48:24Speaker 6: There's team Katay and there's team Kpey and I'm team
- 48:28Speaker 6: Kpey and kpe is.
- 48:30Speaker 1: Of course, the.
- 48:31Speaker 6: Wonderful Katy Perry, who I'm so proud to say has
- 48:34Speaker 6: finally found love with Justin Trudeau. Although it may be
- 48:38Speaker 6: we know that there's a rivalry between the two of them.
- 48:40Speaker 6: It may be just so she can steal the tension
- 48:44Speaker 6: from Taylor Swift's announcement to use the Madison Square Garden
- 48:49Speaker 6: as her wedding venue. So Taylor Swifts said She's going
- 48:52Speaker 6: to get twelve hundred people in Madison Square Garden, whereas
- 48:55Speaker 6: Katie Perry has come up and said.
- 48:56Speaker 8: This, I'm very in love.
- 49:00Speaker 9: I felt very anchored with that because I'm a little
- 49:03Speaker 9: bit like a rainbow height. I fly super high and like,
- 49:06Speaker 9: you know, touch the nail pastmas.
- 49:11Speaker 6: So which fringe Katie Waxing lyrical? Either Justin Trudeau or Tyler.
- 49:16Speaker 3: Katie Perry disgusting, Give me Mark Jacko Jackson.
- 49:19Speaker 2: I'm an individual any day of the week. That's it
- 49:21Speaker 2: from us. Stick around coming out is the rid of
- 49:23Speaker 2: Penney Show. Good Night