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Conch Shell Conspiracy · Nick and Kristen in the Podcast

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  Hello, and welcome to Nick and Kristen in the podcast.
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  We are a married former morning show that are now doing a
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  podcast here. I'm Nick, that's Kristen.
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  And we have a daughter that's seven.
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  And we used to do a radio show on a country radio station.
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  And so we are immersed in country music and the country
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  music artists that come along. And we don't like all of them.
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  We'll be honest, but there are some that we do who enjoy, like
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  Dolly Parton. Dolly put out a video on TikTok
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  and like social media the other day basically saying like, hey,
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  everybody, I'm canceling my Las Vegas residency.
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  She had postponed it for a while, but she's decided to
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  cancel it due to her health. And she basically said that
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  she's responding well to treatments and medications, even
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  though she didn't say what she was sick with.
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  And then she basically likened herself to like a classic car.
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  She's like, sometimes they look beautiful on the outside, but
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  you got to pop the hood and replace the engine and replace
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  the Pistons and replace the brakes and I'm like, Oh my gosh,
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  Jolly what's? Going on replacing there, but
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  yeah, I guess the kidney stones was one of them.
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  And so that on top of something else which sounds a lot like the
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  the C word. Yeah, it does.
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  It sounds like cancer. She said that the medication
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  that she's on, that she's responding well to makes her
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  like fuzzy headed. And so she was like, I can't be
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  on stage and have my head swimming.
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  And it's like, Oh my gosh, she's 88 years old.
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  So, I mean, and cancer comes for everybody.
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  It feels like. I mean, we all know somebody.
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  And so, I mean, it makes sense, but gosh, it was like the whole
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  time I was just like, it's worse than not telling us or telling
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  us, like because now I feel like I just don't know what's going
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  on with her. But I think that it's good that
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  she's doing the videos herself. Yeah.
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  And it's not like her camp that's saying, like, Dolly's
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  gonna take some time. It's like, no, she's at least
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  getting in front of the camera. You see her happy, smiling face.
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  I know. And her charming personality,
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  like, OK, Dolly, but you know, but.
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  Even if you replace the engine, the classic car is going to go
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  at some point. And I think that's sad because
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  like, she's been such an icon for so long.
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  She's so beloved and she's probably the most unproblematic,
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  problematic, problematic, problematic celebrity that there
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  is. Like, ask anybody if they if
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  they hate Dolly Parton. She has kept her reputation
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  intact like she has. She may be a huge pain in the
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  ass, but she has put the things in place that show that she's
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  not and her reputation is great. She stays out of the light for
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  bad things, and I mean good for her.
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  She's like an old pro. All the old pros know how to
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  handle the. Media, they really do.
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  Like you never hear anything bad about Reba.
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  You never hear anything bad about like all the old cool
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  country artists. Like they just kind of George
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  Strait. You never hear anything about
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  George Strait. He's like one of the biggest
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  stars in the world. He doesn't do anything.
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  You never see pictures of him walking down the street.
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  Like he doesn't walk down the. St.
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  No, exactly. Like, but it was something Nick
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  and I, when we were in Nashville a couple months ago, we
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  immediately said to ourselves, like, I don't think Dolly's
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  doing good because her name was all over Nashville like
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  billboards of hers. We went to the Music Hall of
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  Fame and like she had her own perfume and makeup and jewelry
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  and clothing line and we were like, wow, her name is being
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  licensed a lot. Yeah, they're putting her name
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  on a lot of stuff. Lately and we were like she's
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  she's in a position where she doesn't need probably any money.
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  I don't know why she would need that and you even brought it up.
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  You're like, unless they're preparing for the end or she has
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  hired somebody that's going to be taking over her her like icon
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  status or her name following her death.
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  When? Dolly dies.
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  The Dolly brand dies with. Her and that they're building it
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  now so that it will sustain down the down the road.
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  And so that made me sad because I was like, that does seem like
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  it could be. Plausible.
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  It was one of the two things. It's either that or she's like
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  she a lot of people get taken advantage of when they're older
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  and don't understand things. So like I hope it doesn't seem
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  like it with the fact that she's releasing videos, but you never
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  know. Like there could be someone
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  behind the scenes forcing her to sign these things.
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  Even though she might not be a right of mine, but she seems.
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  She seems sharp as attack. Yeah, so I don't know about
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  that, but I was just like, oh, gosh, I hope she's not trying to
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  make a bunch of money because she knows she's going to go and
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  is going to charity. But it's all.
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  For charity the brand. Yeah, she's donating it all to
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  charity. But like, yeah, that building of
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  the brand so it can live on to fund all these things, things
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  that she's taken care of. But, you know, we'll keep you
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  updated if we hear anything, but I'm sure it'll be national news.
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  I think it's just a point in life that you get to where
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  you're like, all right, well, now I've got to start thinking
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  about what I'm leaving behind. And Dolly, at least Dolly's
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  doing it. You know, she's getting all the
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  the ducks in a row herself, I hope.
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  I know. And we should start doing that.
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  And we should. We got to get something big
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  named after us. No, I meant more like get our
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  wheels together or something. No one's.
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  Named anything after us? There's a story called, I have
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  it written in my notes called Lily in the Shell.
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  Like a week ago, Kristen was like, remind me to tell you
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  about Lily in the shell. So, Kristen, tell me about Lily
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  in the Shell. OK, so first of all, like Nick
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  and I planned this vacation that we're going on a Disney Cruise
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  in August. This was before the layoffs and
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  we had already told Lily about it.
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  And so after we lost our jobs in radio, we kind of said do we are
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  we still doing this? But we had already told her
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  she's very excited about it. We.
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  Can't not do it now. So we're like, OK, we got got to
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  do this right. And it's a Bahamas like 3 day
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  thing. We leave out of Florida.
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  We go to the the private Disney Island.
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  And so there's like a private beach and all this kind of
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  stuff. Well, Lilies big dream is she
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  wants to find a conch shell. She loves the conch shell.
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  She loves Moana. Moana blows into it.
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  Maui blows into it like you. She says, oh, you're supposed to
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  hear the ocean if you hold it up, like, and she always,
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  whenever we went to the Oregon coast, she's always like, do you
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  think we'll find a conch shell? And I was like, no, like, we
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  don't live in conch shell territory, right?
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  I mean, who doesn't want to find a conch of?
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  Course like. Everyone wants to walk down the
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  beach. We're like Oh my God, huge conch
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  shell. And even if she did find a conch
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  shell, like in the wild, a part of me wouldn't bring it home
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  because they're homes to giant snails and slugs.
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  And so like, you don't know, nobody's home.
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  Like I'm not bringing it home. Like, I mean, like it would die
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  in there, obviously, but I'm not like going to scoop anything out
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  of a shell. But so here's my thing.
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  Do we buy a conch shell and like, hide it in the sand when
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  we go to the beach and let her discover it and just completely
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  let her mind go crazy thinking she found this perfectly intact
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  beautiful conch shell? Because that was my plan and now
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  I'm really second guessing it. Well, I think it's a great idea.
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  I think it's a great gesture. I think it's going to be
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  something that she remembers forever.
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  Like it would. It will be magical.
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  Like, do we go out of our way to make our kids life magical?
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  Sure. Yeah, this is tough because like
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  I feel if she, if it does become like a hardcore memory, yes,
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  when she's 22, we have to be like, you know, we put that
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  conch shell now. Why would we ever have to tell
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  her? That's true.
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  We wouldn't she? Would never have.
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  But would we feel guilty about it like the?
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  Whole time it's a it's a, you know, my whole thing was like, I
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  want to give her a magical childhood one word.
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  She has the innocence in that she doesn't have to grow up too
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  fast. And even if she was 25 showing
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  off this conch shell to people, like who's going to, I'd be
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  like, well, I don't know if the Bahamas have that.
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  Like everyone be like, oh cool, It's not that cool of a thing.
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  I don't know if we can do it at the Bahamas, though.
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  I don't think that because the way you have to plan that
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  assuming we're the only one on this on this beach, because
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  like, you would set it down, you'd have to immediately after
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  setting it down going, hey, look, there it is.
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  Well, yeah. And I hope no other kid runs
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  over. The plan would be is like, I
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  would be off digging. You would be distracting her.
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  Maybe we're building a sand castle.
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  I would bury it in the sand and then be like, Lily, come help
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  me, and then have her dig in the area and then have her slowly.
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  What's this? What is this?
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  Oh my gosh, it's a cocktail. And like, have this memory.
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  She would be so excited about it.
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  That's true. OK, here's it wouldn't just be
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  sitting on the side of the water.
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  So like, let me talk this out and maybe I can process this
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  that while we're all kind of going through this.
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  So like she discovers it, it becomes magical.
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  Let's say at at 25, she discovers that it was us.
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  I'm not going to tell her. You're not going to tell her.
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  How is she going to know? But she discovers it's US
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  either. It's like you lied to me.
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  What else are you lying about? Or it's my parents love me so
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  much that they buried a conch shell for me to find because it
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  was magical. Now here's the flip side to
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  this. Are we injecting too much magic
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  into the life where she thinks magical things will just happen
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  to her? And I mean, what's wrong with
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  that at the end of the day? But also, like, do we say like,
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  oh, honey, like, no, conch shells aren't in the Bahamas.
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  Like, you can't find them. You have to go to list the Cape
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  of Africa. To find out, are we setting her
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  expectations too high? Yes, like are we create?
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  Are we, are we filling too many dreams, like fulfilling too many
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  of them, that she starts to believe everything she wants,
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  she gets? Gives her a confidence level,
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  right? But.
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  But why shouldn't she go through the world thinking, hey, if I
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  want something, I should get it? Yeah, the alternative is beating
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  her down with life. So.
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  I know. It's like you never find
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  anything magical. Life sucks.
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  No matter what you do, no matter where you go, you're not going
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  to find anything you actually want to find.
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  Or she could find a conch shell and like talk about.
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  It what should I? Do well.
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  Are there no conch shells in this island?
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  I have no idea. Well, you keep saying that.
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  I know what it's like, but I know that they're not on the
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  Oregon coast, right? You know what I mean?
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  Like, but I imagine that they would be more tropical, like
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  they'd be in like the Bahamas or the Caribbean, or maybe it is
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  like Cape of Africa or something like that.
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  I don't know where you could find it.
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  OK, You're looking it up right now.
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  Conch shells can be found in the wild along Caribbean beaches,
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  the Florida Keys, the Bahamas and Bermuda, OK, particularly
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  during the low tide for storms. For guaranteed legal and non
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  living options there are readily available, you can buy them.
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  Yeah, you can buy them on, you know, whatever.
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  OK, I mean they're. And I've looked into it.
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  It's $25 and that. And you know, I know we're
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  unemployed, but at the end of the day, it's like, wouldn't
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  this just be, yeah, mind blowing for her to experience because
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  every time we watch Moana, she goes, I would love to find a
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  conch. Shell, Who wouldn't want to
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  find? The app who would and I have an
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  opportunity to make that happen, but is that making?
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  Me feel guilty and feel like it's a lie though like.
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  I don't feel. Guilty at all.
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  Well, you look at the conch shell and she's like, Oh my God,
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  I can't believe, look how lucky I am.
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  And then you go like I buried a conch shell for you and you're
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  still won't eat your damn peas. I know I'm certainly not going
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  to throw it against her, but I have a Lily journal that I write
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  in and I'll probably write like by the way, I buried.
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  I don't know. Is that a bad example?
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  Because like I'm. Going to give.
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  It to. Her when she's 18, yeah, it's a
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  fun little thing that she can read and.
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  And discover I, I think it'd be cute.
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  I think if she does discover it, and I think that she will,
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  she'll realize how much we went out of our way, right?
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  Like how loved? She was and how mad can you be
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  at that? If like my parents came to me
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  and were like, hey, you know that this thing that you
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  remember forever, like I made that happen.
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  Like, I made that happen because I knew it was going to be so
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  magical. Exactly.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I don't know. What do you think?
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  Like, leave us, leave a comment, 'cause I, after talking about
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  this and processing it, I, I feel like I should just do it.
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  So I I'm talking myself into it. But if there's something I'm not
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  considering, please let me. Know well what have you ruined
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  other kids vacation. Well, I know.
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  She's going to be. Like, oh man.
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  All the other kids. Looking and like I'd be like
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  parents. No, no.
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  She found a conch shell dig and you dig at the whole beaches and
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  like. They can dig all they want.
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  You can find them in in the Bahamas.
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  Apparently, yeah, maybe she'll just What if she find the real
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  conch shell? Like what if that's a?
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  Fabulous. Then she'll have too.
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  Have you heard of these Nido things?
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  I know you have one, right? You have one that looks like
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  Yeah. And so apparently they are being
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  microwaved and it's bad. Like don't.
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  Bad, bad so. The needles, by the way, are
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  like fidget toys. They're squishy.
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  They're squishy little balls. I have one that's a cube here.
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  I have a video of. It here's Yeah.
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  Please, here's one of needles. These little squishy cubes.
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  Yeah, no. Like for stress or for ADHD
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  anything took out on like photos?
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  They're like the hot thing on TikTok and like everybody wants
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  one of these things and they look fun.
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  And I guess if you the according to TikTok, if you warm them,
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  they become stretchier, which is not accurate.
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  So do not do do not do that. People were one of these kids
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  was putting it on in the freezer and then putting it in the
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  microwave. Oh my gosh.
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  Since it's silicone on the outside, she didn't realize how
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  hot the stuff inside had become. Yes.
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  And so her friend squeezed it and it exploded and it went all
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  over her face and burned her. Yeah.
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  So do not microwave your needles.
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  Like I mean, why would? You do that, it's one.
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  Of those. Stupid trends, I understand.
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  It's like you want to make it more malleable.
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  Kids don't know she's stupid. She's 10, get some.
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  Plano or some slime like the whole.
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  Point of this. Is it's supposed to snap back to
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  place? Yeah.
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  I have to say though, because I bought a couple from my office
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  and when I have I have kids that have ADHD.
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  I have adults that have ADHD, the HD, everybody goes for those
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  first and everyone just spends all sessions just like pulling
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  it. And then afterwards they always
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  go. That was really fun.
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  Yeah. Like even my adult clients,
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  they're just like they're, they're knocking your fidget
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  toys out of the way and they're just like playing with them now.
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  And it, I mean, they are super fun.
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  It seems like they've been around for forever.
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  Like I feel like this is nothing new.
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  It's not, it's. Just like all of a sudden these
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  ones in particular are are better quality or like I don't
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  know. I wouldn't even say that it's
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  it's the social media aspect of it because also really popular
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  right now are the glitter dumplings.
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  And the glitter dumplings have been around for forever.
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  If you don't know what they are, they're very similar to Nieto's,
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  but they look like a dumpling. They come in like a little a
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  basket and you open it up, it's got a little face and they
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  either have like Orbeez or glitter or anything in it.
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  You just mess with them. It's the presentation.
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  They used to sell the glitter dumplings at the dollar store or
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  the Dollar Tree and it was like $1.25 Max for one of these
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  things. But then like some people on Tik
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  Tok's, there's a gold glitter dumpling that's this the rare
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  one. There's like a couple people
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  that were like. It's to put in it, put in rare
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  versions, and there you go. Yeah.
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  They would buy like the entire case of the glitter dumplings.
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  They'd open them up live on TikTok and they would be like,
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  oh, we didn't get the Gold 1 and it just became like opening
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  Pokémon we're. So starved for attention and
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  like that that that's treasure hunting thing is just somewhere
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  inside all of. Us we all want the rare thing we
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  all want to discover thing, we all want our own conch shell
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  that we can find. And so they became really
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  popular with people using them for content.
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  But then like the kids started being like I want a glitter dump
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  plate and then they started selling out everywhere and now
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  they are $5 a piece of. Course, you know, I mean we got
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  to come up with something and do that because they they just
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  advertised well. I know they did a great job.
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  Yeah, you got to have one rare one.
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  Exactly. So there's a rare hidden episode
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  of the Nicky Kristen. In the podcast them three times
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  So we're standing there. But thank you for listening and
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  thank you for watching, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.