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$7T Central Bank CONFIRMS $5M Bitcoin is CLOSER Than You Think! | EP 1231 · Simply Bitcoin

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  The biggest central bank with $7 trillion of assets under
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  management just sent a massive Bitcoin warning to the rest of
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  the world. This newest announcement is not
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  only a game changer because it is the catalyst required to send
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  Bitcoin to $5,000,000 per coin, confirming one of Michael
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  Saylor's predictions, but it is also putting the rest of the
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  world central banks on notice. But before we get into all that,
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  running the numbers of this prediction, let's see what the
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  corporate press thinks about. The spot box this morning about
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  banking regulators pulling back some US cryptocurrency guidance.
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  This is interesting guys, because the Fed said it was
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  withdrawing supervisory letters that said that banks should seek
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  advance approval from authorities before engaging in
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  crypto asset and stablecoin activities.
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  In addition, the Fed, the FDIC and the Office of the
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  Controllers of the Currency pulled back statements from 2023
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  that urged banks to be careful when it comes to crypto related
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  risks. During the 2020 excuse me, 2020
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  24 campaign for the White House, President Trump promised crypto
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  investors that he would have their backs if he was re
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  elected. In a statement announcing the
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  latest changes, the Fed said that regulators would look into
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  whether new guidance to support crypto asset innovation was
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  appropriate. But it means effectively that I
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  think a lot of the those letters that scared the banking system
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  sort of out of getting meaningfully involved in crypto.
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  And now they're saying, you know, do do what you like.
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  Here's the question. I mean it because it's the Fed
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  doing that. It's not necessarily.
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  It's not like an executive order where it's going to get
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  whipsawed if another administration comes in, in four
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  years, I I would assume. But again, the politicization of
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  it probably has some people concerned about whether the
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  winds would change again at some point.
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  I guess maybe it's better because it's coming from the
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  Fed. Well, I think part of it's
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  coming from the Fed, and it sounded like part of it was
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  coming. From the administration, that's
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  what I couldn't understand, and this was part of the campaign
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  promises to do these things again.
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  Businesses just don't like getting whipsawed by changes in
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  administrations that lead to huge changes in.
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  Policy. I don't know if this means that
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  all you know, all of a sudden you're going to go to your
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  local, you know, chase on the corner and be taking Bitcoin.
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  You can't take Bitcoin. Look, I, I, I guess it does feel
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  very different. It does feel very different in
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  that crypto is becoming much more widely accepted.
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  And maybe if they can get more regulation that that, that kind
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  of cements that maybe it would make the banks feel a little
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  better about it. I mean, look, we used to
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  interview Janet Yellen and she was always, she would always
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  talk to you about the risks of it.
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  By the way, Jamie Dimon would talk to you about the risks of
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  it. So I don't know, it's
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  interesting 'cause there are people in the banking system who
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  still have their own views of the risks.
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  But I think the banking system would also like to offer their
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  get in on whatever their customers want.
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  Look, I think was against it until.
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  Love to see it. Also guys, I'm here with the
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  legendary and beautiful Internet Sophie AKA Nico's wife, so be
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  nice to her. And of course Brian Demint from
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  Orange Pelop, one of one of my favorite guests.
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  He's always bringing the signal. So as you can tell, obviously
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  the Fed is pulling back on their very stringent and tough crypto
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  regulations that we saw come in a couple of years ago under the
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  Biden administration. And as you can hear them,
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  they're kind of wrapping their heads around this idea, like, is
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  this a good thing? Is this a big, big deal?
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  You know, will this be changed because of the next
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  administration coming in? So it seems as of now we are
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  kind of seeing a lot of good, good signal to this idea that we
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  are going to have a more pro Bitcoin regulation or you might
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  argue a pro crypto regulation. So interesting.
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  Interesting. And of course, you know, the
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  idea of bringing up Janet Yellen and Jamie Dimon on here.
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  As we always say, if it's someone's job to not understand
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  the incentives, of course they're going to publicly not
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  endorse this idea. So anyways, let's get into the
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  press release here and then I will cover again.
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  You've probably heard it on the show what sailors prediction for
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  $5,000,000 in needs, which is 3 things.
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  And then I have an interesting take from Senator Lummus.
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  So first of all, we have the press release here.
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  I'm on federalreserve.gov. This was dropped last night at
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  5:30. And and it goes Federal Reserve
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  Board announces the withdrawal of guidance for banks related to
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  their crypto asset and dollar token activities and related
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  changes to its expectations for these activities.
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  The Federal Reserve Board on Thursday announced the announced
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  the withdrawal of guidance for banks related to their crypto
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  asset and dollar token activities and related changes
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  to its expectations for these activities.
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  These actions ensure the Board's expectations remain aligned with
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  evolving risk and further support innovation in the
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  banking system. It is interesting how they they
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  keep saying this evolving risk mean here and now that we have a
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  new pro Bitcoin administration, they're like, oh, these risks
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  are completely out the window. You know, you banks, we were
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  telling you for a while, you shouldn't be customing Bitcoin.
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  It's dangerous for investors. And then right when Trump gets
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  in, we have Jay Powell come out. It's like actually no banks can
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  custody this Bitcoin. So it's interesting how quickly
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  they change their tune. Anyways, the board is resending
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  it's 2022 supervisory letter establishing an expectation that
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  state member banks provide advance notification of planned
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  or current crypto asset activity.
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  As a result, the Board will no longer expect banks to provide
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  notification and will instead monitor banks crypto asset
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  activities through the normal supervisory process.
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  Now Andrew Sorkin on that clip said you're probably not going
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  to be walking into a bank and you know, getting Bitcoin as he
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  framed it. But it is interesting that the
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  Fed does supervise, I think it's, it's over 1400 commercial
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  banks. So if they're being a little
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  more lenient on these banks and they don't have to actually get
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  approval upfront, you could argue that they might, you might
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  be able to walk into your friendly neighborhood bank and
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  eventually get some Bitcoin. And I think this is probably
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  where we're headed. Now.
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  This next part is pretty interesting.
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  They don't actually say stable coins, but I'm pretty positive
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  that this is what they are talking about.
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  So the Board is also resending its 2023 supervisory letter
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  regarding the supervisory non objection process for state
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  member bank engagement in dollar token activities.
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  Now this is something I've been talking about on the show, so
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  for a long time is we are seeing that the Trump administration
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  and you know, Howard Lutnick and Scott Besson and, and basically
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  all of the cabinet now they are starting to push for more pro
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  stable coin regulation and push pro stable coin bills.
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  And I think now we're starting to see that, hey, maybe the Fed
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  is capitulating on this point. Maybe they are bending the knee.
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  As much as we understand that the Fed gets their power from
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  Fiat currencies, from dollar dominance, we are seeing that
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  they are pulling back a little bit on and their attack against
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  stable coins. Now, you know, I'm not the
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  biggest stable coin fan, but I think we can start to see where
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  the road is going. And again, shouts out to our boy
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  Mark Goodwin. He's been on the beat here on
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  this Bitcoin dollar system. And of course, if they are less
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  stringent on stablecoin adoption, that does kind of take
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  some power away from the Fed anyways.
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  Finally, the Board together with the Federal Deposit Insurance
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  Corporation is joining the Office of the Comptroller of the
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  Currency and withdrawing from 2/20/23 statements jointly
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  issued by the Federal Bank regulatory agencies regarding
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  banks, crypto asset activities and exposure.
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  The Board will work with the agencies to consider whether
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  additional guidance to support innovation, including crypto
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  asset activities is appropriate. So to wrap up this press
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  release, it is interesting that we are the Fed seemingly be more
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  favorable towards Bitcoin, and I guess maybe the angle is more
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  favorable towards stablecoin adoption.
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  So this is, I would say, probably a big development,
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  though I will bring up Senator Lummus's take on this, which is
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  actually opposite. And here we go.
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  This is probably why you clicked on the video.
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  We played this clip for you guys on this show multiple times.
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  So I'm not going to play it again.
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  But just to just to kind of summarize, Michael Saylor made
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  this prediction over two years ago, and it might even be longer
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  now if, if I'm if I'm not forgetting actually, yeah, about
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  two years ago. And he said there's three things
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  that are needed for Bitcoin to go to $5,000,000 per coin.
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  And now it seems like all of those obstacles are out the
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  window. First was of course the spot
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  Bitcoin ETF approval which happened.
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  That is done. We've seen that the spot Bitcoin
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  ETF is literally the most successful ETF launch ever.
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  And then this is where the second one comes in.
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  I think this is kind of leading towards this direction which is
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  banks custody and lending against Bitcoin as collateral.
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  We have seen that there is approval for banks to custody
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  Bitcoin. Now it looks like the feds kind
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  of pulling back on them being anti custody Bitcoin in banks.
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  And then of course 3. The fair value accounting rules
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  from Asby and that also has been approved.
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  So these three things, these 33 obstacles seemingly are going
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  out the window. And yes, I know price
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  speculation $5,000,000 Bitcoin sounds crazy, but we are seeing
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  that the road to $5,000,000 Bitcoin is happening in real
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  time. So it looks like we are getting
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  a more pro Bitcoin regulation in the United States.
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  So say what you want about Trump, but in regards to his
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  action and follow through in Bitcoin, it seems like he's
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  doing a very, very, very great job.
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  He is following through on a lot of the Bitcoin things he was
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  talking about during his campaign.
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  Now I think the most interesting take here though is Senator
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  Cynthia Lummis and she goes the Fed withdrawing crypto guidance
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  is just noise, not real progress.
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  We are not fooled. the Fed assassinated companies within
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  the industry and hurt American interests by stifling innovation
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  and shuttering businesses. The fight is far from over now I
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  love to hear this take. Yes, of course, as a Bitcoiner,
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  we always like to take our our maybe small wins and make them
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  into mountains. But she's kind of right.
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  We are still not out of the woods yet.
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  It does seem like we are turning a page in regards to how Bitcoin
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  is looked at in the mainstream, in traditional finance and of
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  course, coming from the federal level.
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  So I would say that I think heating Senator Lummus's warning
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  here is very important. You know, that it's important to
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  to understand the context here. the Fed hasn't been favorable
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  towards Bitcoin, and now you can argue that they're probably only
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  being favorable in regards to Bitcoin and stablecoins because
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  of the Trump administration putting pressure on Jay Powell.
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  We all know the trade war going on.
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  We all have probably heard Trump, you know, talk a lot of
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  smack about Jay Powell recently. He's been trolling him
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  constantly on true social. But I think the point remains
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  the same. We are turning a page here, and
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  the road to extremely ridiculous price predictions are coming
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  clearer in our minds here. And we all know it's going up
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  forever. So once all of these
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  uncertainties are figured out and completely ironed out, I
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  think we can start to unleash the Bitcoin price pump that
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  we're all waiting for here. Anyways, I'm going to pass this
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  to Brian. Brian, what's your thoughts on
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  the first of the Federal Reserve's announcement and then
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  Senator Lummis take on this? I mean, the announcement, you
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  know, I, I think it's, it's good to be skeptical of this stuff,
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  but it, the sly roundabout way is happening.
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  That's what's so cool about this is that whether it's, whether
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  it's sincere, whether it's just rhetoric, Bitcoiners are shaping
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  the narrative right now. What we do, how we spend our
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  money, the, the conviction that we have.
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  There's there's probably no other cross section of people in
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  financial markets that have a higher conviction than
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  bitcoiners and politicians, regulators, bureaucrats, they
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  pay attention to that. So we are shifting the
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  narrative. You, you talk about this
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  consistently that the, the Overton window is shifting and
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  Bitcoiners are making that happen.
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  Now let's say you know, Sorkin talked about how you know you're
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  not going to go down to your bank and, and get Bitcoin.
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  Well, that that actually is on the horizon that that kind of
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  stuff is happening. Now think about the math on
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  that. There's 44,000 banks in the
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  world, 21,000,000 / 44,000 banks.
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  Every bank can only have 477 Bitcoin.
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  It doesn't take a whole lot of demand from banks to completely
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  dry out the supply. Now, if you want to just talk
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  about the unmined supply, there's there's 1.1 million
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  unmined Bitcoin banks. If they all got an even share of
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  all Bitcoin left to be mined, they would get 25 Bitcoin each.
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  There's just, there's so few Bitcoin and so much, so many
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  institutions out there that will need exposure to it.
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  It'll be part of their fiduciary responsibility if they're a
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  financial player, whether you're a publicly traded company,
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  whether you're a bank, whether you're or an insurance company,
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  whatever you, if you're responsible for money, it will
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  become, this is the shift that we're seeing that we as
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  Bitcoiners are pushing. You will see a shift towards the
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  necessity, the moral obligation to have exposure or the ability
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  to get your clients exposure to Bitcoin. 25 Bitcoin for your
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  entire financial institution is not going to cut the mustard.
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  477 Bitcoin for JP Morgan is not going to cut the mustard.
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  There is going to be a run on Bitcoin or demand for Bitcoin
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  like we've never seen before. And Senator Cynthia Loomis, I
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  love that she sees other people trying to steal her clout.
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  I think this is part of it. She wants the legacy.
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  She want to, she wants to build her political legacy because she
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  knows where Bitcoin is going. She wants to build her political
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  legacy off of the idea that Bitcoin is going to fund,
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  fundamentally transform the world.
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  And I think it's going to be in, in large part transform the
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  United States. And I think she wants to be tied
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  to that. I don't think she wants anybody
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  stealing her clout. She wants her Bitcoin bill and
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  buying a million Bitcoin to be the center of attention.
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  I think that's coming soon. I, I think July is when we're
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  going to really see this stuff heat up in terms of
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  legislatively, not only is she trying to gain traction, there's
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  plenty of states that are that are gaining traction with their
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  state bills. I don't think her or Trump want
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  the clout of of the American strategic reserve to be undercut
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  by these by by state reserves. And they don't want regulators
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  to get credit like that. They certainly don't want the
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  Federal Reserve to get any kind of credit for the bitcoinization
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  of the world. And so this is awesome aligned
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  incentives. If you if, if you guys have
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  watched simply Bitcoin, you understand the power of aligned
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  incentives because because Nico and Opti talk about this a lot,
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  it's the it's one of the most important things to understand
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  why Bitcoin will win. It tailors everybody's
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  incentives to move in the same direction.
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  Love it, Brian. I, I actually didn't think of
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  that angle. I think that's, I think that
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  might be a great angle here of like Senator Lummus just doesn't
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  want to take the, you know, the wind out of her sails.
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  But I think like your point remains the same.
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  We are seeing a lot of incentives.
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  We are seeing, hey, you know, like I said earlier, love or
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  hate Trump, we are seeing that when it comes to Bitcoin, or
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  rather maybe stable coins here, we all know his shit coin there.
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  There's a lot of follow through here.
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  And you know, you can argue where that pressure is coming
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  from, but for us bitcoiners, I think this is a good thing.
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  And and like you said, this is going to make waves and ripples
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  around the world. And now everyone is going to
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  have to take Bitcoin very seriously.
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  So I'm sure the dominoes will fall very quickly.
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  Now, Sophie, I, I, I consider myself kind of the extremist on
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  the show, but you are probably way further along the path than
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  I am. So just remember we're on
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  YouTube here. What is?
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  I try to, I'm not going to get us banned.
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  Actually today I have the mom take because the way that I see
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  it, Bitcoin is now a 16 year old child, right?
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  They're getting to an age where they want to completely separate
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  from the control or the seeming control of their parents.
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  And so the Fed pulling back on, you know, giving crypto
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  guidance, they never really had any control to begin with.
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  Let's be honest. I think that the next logical
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  step, first of all, I think it's also the fact that the Fed has
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  way bigger things to worry about, like cutting interest
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  rates, not printing money, etcetera, etcetera, ceasing to
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  exist. So now the next logical step is
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  taking this matter to Congress and making it part of the law
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  that there there is no regulation over Bitcoin.
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  There is no regulate and, and crypto maybe, but you know, I
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  think maybe there should be a little bit of regulation on
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  Ethereum and shitcoins so that people don't get screwed over.
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  But to begin with, you could never control Bitcoin.
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  So from my perspective, this is Bitcoin growing up.
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  And the way that I interpreted Senator Loomis's take on all of
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  this is there's still a lot of work to be done.
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  Does it mean that just because the Fed is going to be pulling
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  back on regulations that you're in the clear and that you
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  shouldn't take self custody and you should trust the the banks
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  and ETFs and these platforms with your Bitcoin?
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  Absolutely not. You should still be weary.
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  You should still be taking self custody.
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  And that's the thing that we ultimately need to protect with
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  the law so that there isn't another administration that just
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  comes in and change the winds of the Fed.
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  So I think that on one hand, the Fed has a lot of other things to
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  worry about. They've realized, look, there's
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  not much that we can be doing here.
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  There wasn't anything that we could do since the beginning.
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  So we're just going to move on. And now it's the job of the
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  community to push for that to to kind of kick the ball to
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  Congress so that it is solidified into law so that
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  people like Senator Loomis can do their job and make it so that
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  nobody could ever take away our right to self custody and our
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  right to to own Bitcoin. Love it.
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  You know, Sophie motherhood is, is looking good on you.
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  She's she's coming in a little more balanced, a little more
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  neutral on the show. It's making me smarter actually.
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  But. No, I'm not 80 IQ anymore.
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  I'm actually 90 IQ now so. Well, my IQ is dropping.
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  I'm at 45 now. I don't know how that happened,
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  but I think your point remains. I think both of you guys are
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  kind of saying something very similar.
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  It's like, look, this is good, you know, very good news coming
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  out of the Fed, but we still so have to kind of solidify this
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  into law in the United States. And of course, that's going to
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  have to go through Congress so that it doesn't change if we get
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  an anti Bitcoin president next, you know what, 3-4 years from
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  now. So, you know, it's baby steps
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  towards the right direction. And I'm excited to see where
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  this lands. But we are starting to see that
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  the narrative around Bitcoin is fundamentally shifting, whether,
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  you know, it's the Fed bending the knee, whether it's the Trump
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  administration be more favorable to Bitcoin.
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  Now. We just need to see that trickle
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  down into Congress and, you know, solidify that.
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  Hey, us Bitcoin, we're not criminals here.
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  We just want to make sure we hold something.
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  The US is way behind on Bitcoin adoption.
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  El Salvador and has it had it as legal tender before we did.
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  Even Europe has like kind of a little bit more of adoption.
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  Hong Kong, the UAE, all of these countries are moving at the
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  speed of light. If the US wants to be the leader
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  in Bitcoin adoption, we need to not just pull back on Fed
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  regulations, which again, they couldn't do anyway.
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  We need to make this part of our laws.
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  We need to even perhaps propose an amendment where we make
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  Bitcoin legal tender. It cannot just stop at pulling
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  back regulation. It can't just stop at a Bitcoin
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  strategic reserve. We won't stop until we're able
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  to use Bitcoin to pay our water bill to pay our electricity
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  bill. And to have that be the basis
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  for abolishing taxes, but that's a whole other.
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  Conversation. There she is.
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  There she. Is I always got to get the taxes
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  All right guys, so we have a jam packed show for you guys.
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  I am going to kind of continue this theme.
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  So if you think this $5,000,000 Bitcoin prediction is crazy,
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  well, I have a clip of safety and kind of explaining where the
• 20:43
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  And I have a clip from my boy Nolan.
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  And I think he really makes a good point of how significant
• 20:56
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• 20:58
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• 21:00
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  All right guys, I'm over here on Clark Moodys dashboard and the
• 24:02
  current Bitcoin price is $95,350 per Bitcoin.
• 24:07
  I was trolling before the show with Sophie and Brian.
• 24:10
  I'm like guys, you know, I know we're only at 95 K, but this 95
• 24:14
  K feels a little better than the last time we were here.
• 24:16
  It's probably because of the market dropping and we've been
• 24:19
  going. Sideways, I'm still so bored I.
• 24:22
  Know, I think until. We get to like at least 120.
• 24:25
  I'm just going to like twiddle my fingers and.
• 24:28
  Count themselves. We're also entitled here.
• 24:30
  Anyways, the sets for dollar, AKA how much Bitcoin you can buy
• 24:33
  for a single dollar, AKA how much a dollar is worth in
• 24:35
  Bitcoin, is currently at 1049 sets per dollar.
• 24:38
  The current block height is 893,000 137 and the market cap
• 24:43
  of Bitcoin in Fiat terms is $1.89 trillion.
• 24:48
  We are inching back towards $2 trillion market cap and the
• 24:51
  Bitcoin versus gold market cap currently at 8.15%.
• 24:54
  Wow. I think that was that's like a
• 24:56
  what point three 5% since yesterday.
• 24:59
  That's that's kind of crazy. Anyways, the total percentage of
• 25:02
  Bitcoin that will ever be issued is currently at 94.55%, roughly
• 25:05
  19.855 million coins in circulation.
• 25:09
  And the realized monetary inflation is currently at .84%.
• 25:12
  Taking Fiat currencies to school.
• 25:15
  All right guys, as I was telling you, we got this clip here of
• 25:19
  safety and I know literally everyone's like all these guys
• 25:22
  ever talk about is Bitcoin going to $1,000,000 per coin.
• 25:25
  Well, one, we are hoping I'm here, we're he, we're here to
• 25:28
  make sure that you guys are entertained and you know, for
• 25:31
  better or worse, people love the Bitcoin price predictions.
• 25:35
  And two, this is the inevitability.
• 25:38
  If you understand what's going on with Bitcoin, if you lightly
• 25:42
  understand what's going on in Tradfi, you understand the memes
• 25:46
  that we constantly say it's going up forever, Laura, there's
• 25:48
  nothing stopping this train. The big print is upon us.
• 25:52
  Well, we have safety, the legendary author of the Bitcoin
• 25:56
  standard explaining to you, kind of continuing the theme that
• 25:59
  this isn't out of the realm of possibility, guys.
• 26:02
  This is exactly what's playing out and we're seeing it happen
• 26:05
  in real time. So in the interim, in the short
• 26:07
  term, yes, as Sophie's saying, we're bored with the price
• 26:11
  movement because it's like it's not going up quick enough.
• 26:13
  We've been spoiled. But I think as a Bitcoiner, once
• 26:17
  you understand how Bitcoin works, why Bitcoin does what it
• 26:20
  does, these price predictions don't seem crazy.
• 26:23
  Of course, we don't know the time frame on this stuff, but we
• 26:26
  do know the meme is real. It's going up forever.
• 26:29
  Anyways, let's hear safety and explain this to you.
• 26:32
  Thought this is insane, but here we are.
• 26:35
  It's going up and I think, you know, it's still early days in
• 26:38
  the sense of just numbers because I think it's, you know,
• 26:43
  it's not it's, it's not a matter of consumer adoption.
• 26:45
  It's not a matter of how many people download the iPhone, how
• 26:50
  many people download a Bitcoin app.
• 26:51
  For me, it's about the size of the cash balances more than the
• 26:54
  number of people. And so you can look at the size
• 26:58
  of cash balances that are in dollars there are or dollars or
• 27:01
  dollar based currencies, which are all other Fiat currencies in
• 27:04
  the world. You've got around $100 trillion
• 27:07
  in Fiat currencies. You have another $100 trillion
• 27:09
  in bonds and you have something like another 30, twenty $30
• 27:13
  trillion in gold and some other assets, maybe real estate and
• 27:18
  stocks, some of that you could think of as being a cash
• 27:21
  substitute which Bitcoin is competing with.
• 27:24
  So I would say the total market for a monetary asset is about
• 27:28
  $300 trillion. Bitcoins already at 2 trillion,
• 27:32
  which is I mean impressive because in 15 years going from
• 27:35
  zero to 2 trillion is the fastest that we've ever seen.
• 27:38
  We've never had an asset anything go grow this fast.
• 27:42
  So it is quite impressive, but still got a long way to go.
• 27:45
  And I would say you could you, you could say that Bitcoin is
• 27:49
  the monetary standard of the world when it is the largest of
• 27:53
  these assets, probably around something in the range of 100
• 27:57
  trillion or so. So still a while away.
• 28:00
  But with Bitcoin, you never really know how long it could
• 28:03
  take. You know that could be another
• 28:05
  few months because we've seen these crazy pumps in Bitcoin.
• 28:09
  But. Not most likely.
• 28:10
  It's not going to be a few months.
• 28:11
  Most likely it's going to be several years.
• 28:14
  And that's fine. I think it's, it's, it's a
• 28:16
  process that needs time. People need to accumulate cash
• 28:19
  balances. People need to become more
• 28:21
  familiar with how to use Bitcoin, and I think over time
• 28:24
  it's just inevitable because the people who accumulate Bitcoin
• 28:26
  will witness the value of their cash balances increase, whereas
• 28:29
  the people who don't accumulate Bitcoin.
• 28:33
  This is the signal here guys. One, of course, safety and
• 28:37
  didn't give us a time frame here, but I think we we're all
• 28:41
  kind of thinking something similar like there's a non zero
• 28:44
  chance that Bitcoin could RIP very quickly considering who
• 28:47
  knows what's going to happen in traditional finance.
• 28:49
  If something fundamentally breaks in traditional finance,
• 28:53
  then I would argue most of that capital would end up in Bitcoin.
• 28:57
  But this is a this is a long term game As a Bitcoiner, we
• 29:00
  always talk about low time preference, you know, thinking
• 29:02
  long term here and as every one of us understands, once you
• 29:06
  understand Bitcoin, this is the inevitable game here.
• 29:09
  So, you know, safety is saying $300 trillion market cap is, is
• 29:13
  probably a a conservative bet on how big of a market share a pure
• 29:18
  money could get. And if you're looking at today's
• 29:20
  market cap, you know that's a conservative 150X from here.
• 29:24
  So, you know, you can say what you want about Bitcoiners and
• 29:28
  our price predictions, but if it goes, and of course, this is a
• 29:32
  big, if we'd, we're not, we're not saying that Bitcoin win or
• 29:35
  there's an inevitability of Bitcoin winning and doing what
• 29:38
  we say it does. But again, a non, there's zero
• 29:41
  chance that it's headed in the direction we're saying.
• 29:43
  And I think I'm, I think I could safely say that safety is
• 29:47
  probably on the right track. We all know global market
• 29:51
  capital right now is around 900 trillion.
• 29:53
  If you don't think Bitcoin's going to get a small portion, if
• 29:56
  not a decent chunk of that global capital because
• 29:58
  everyone's using different kind of assets for store store
• 30:02
  values, do you really understand Bitcoin?
• 30:05
  And of course, I'm, I'm not here to Bitcoin shame anyone here,
• 30:09
  but I think this is a very conservative bet on the long
• 30:12
  enough time frame. I see this playing out very,
• 30:15
  very clearly. Again, I love using the metric
• 30:18
  or the heuristic that Bitcoiners can predict the future.
• 30:20
  Once your fundamentals are are in place as a Bitcoiner, it
• 30:24
  starts to become a lot easier to see where the future is headed.
• 30:27
  And if we do end up on, you know, the the fabled Bitcoin
• 30:30
  standard globally, I think these are conservative bets.
• 30:34
  Anyways, I'm going to pass it over to Brian again.
• 30:35
  Brian, what's your thoughts on safety?
• 30:38
  Yeah, I mean, I think that it's it's just always funny reading
• 30:41
  the comments where, you know, the simply Bitcoiners are just
• 30:44
  awesome. They're like, why is he so
• 30:45
  bearish? Only $100 trillion is coming in.
• 30:48
  Yes, I'm, I'm, I'm with you guys.
• 30:50
  And it's not because that's bearish.
• 30:52
  It's because of what are the implications of 100 and $100
• 30:55
  trillion coming into Bitcoin. And it's again over time, but
• 31:00
  there are there's quadrillions of dollars of wealth in the
• 31:05
  world. We actually as as, as, as crazy
• 31:08
  as central banks have gone and as much Fiat as they've printed,
• 31:11
  if you were to accumulate all the Fiat in the world, you
• 31:14
  couldn't buy all of the stuff in the world.
• 31:17
  We actually don't have enough Fiat currency.
• 31:19
  We don't have enough currency to actually buy all of the wealth
• 31:22
  because nobody sells all of the buildings and all of the
• 31:25
  property and all of the gold and all of the equities all at the
• 31:29
  same time. So you actually don't need all
• 31:31
  of the capital in the world. So there's an imbalance and it's
• 31:33
  OK, but there's an imbalance between the wealth in the world
• 31:37
  and the currency. The the amount of currency
• 31:39
  notes, what what Safety Dean is talking about for the currency
• 31:42
  notes. There's $100 trillion of various
• 31:45
  currencies out in the world. That is a total addressable
• 31:48
  market for Bitcoin is how much currency is there at play now?
• 31:52
  You don't need $100 trillion to just all currencies are
• 31:56
  completely gone and $100 trillion is going into Bitcoin.
• 32:00
  You only need a portion of that to go into Bitcoin to make
• 32:02
  Bitcoin a $100 trillion asset. And and here's why it's it's
• 32:08
  some people call it the multiplier effect.
• 32:09
  I like to refer to it as capital flow inertia.
• 32:11
  But let me give you a really easy example.
• 32:14
  If you Fiat is a big pool of water, Bitcoin is a small pool
• 32:20
  of water. Take Lake Superior, a giant
• 32:23
  lake. If you took 1,000,000 gallons of
• 32:26
  water out of Lake Superior, the the level of Lake Superior, like
• 32:30
  it wouldn't even drop. It's such a vast body of water
• 32:33
  that the the water levels wouldn't even drop.
• 32:36
  But if you took 1,000,000 gallons of water and put it all
• 32:39
  into your pool in your backyard, your entire neighborhood would
• 32:43
  flood. So 1,000,000 gallons coming out
• 32:46
  of 1 lake doesn't affect it, but that same million gallons going
• 32:50
  into the small pool has an enormous effect on it.
• 32:54
  And that's what's going to happen with Bitcoin as these
• 32:57
  dollars are coming out or these Fiat currencies are collapsing
• 33:00
  into Bitcoin. You don't need the $100 trillion
• 33:03
  to collapse in order to have $100 trillion effect on Bitcoin.
• 33:07
  And that's the profound thing. If anybody's sleeping on this
• 33:10
  and what he's saying that that sounds too overly bullish.
• 33:13
  That's why the simply Bitcoiners understanding this is I'm trying
• 33:16
  to put words to why they're making this.
• 33:18
  It sounds like a joke, but it's serious.
• 33:20
  Why is he so? Why is he so bearish?
• 33:22
  It's not bearish. It's a very realistic statement
• 33:24
  because it only takes a small fraction of that to have a $100
• 33:27
  trillion effect on Bitcoin. Yeah, I totally agree.
• 33:31
  And and of course sometimes, like even Bitcoin will admit
• 33:35
  sometimes price predictions are just fun and we are trolling and
• 33:38
  having fun and just like throwing something ridiculous on
• 33:41
  the wall and and hoping that our predictions correctly.
• 33:43
  But it it, it is a very conservative bet And and Brian,
• 33:47
  will you what what what did you call the multiplier effect?
• 33:49
  I'm I'm blanking on it. Yeah, it's.
• 33:51
  Yeah, overly complicated capital flow inertia.
• 33:55
  Love it. I love that I was actually kind
• 33:59
  of thinking the same thing as Brian.
• 34:01
  He, he put it in such a beautiful analogy, But right now
• 34:05
  bitcoins around 2 like 2 trillion like Safedeen
• 34:08
  mentioned. And The thing is, it doesn't
• 34:10
  need to be that big right now for it to become inevitable
• 34:15
  because unlike every other asset, Bitcoin doesn't rely on
• 34:19
  cash flow yield or you know, any sort of institution regulating
• 34:24
  it. As we said before, it's value is
• 34:27
  purely from adoption and purely from scarcity.
• 34:31
  So there's never going to be more than 21 million coins
• 34:35
  period. And the more capital flows into
• 34:38
  it and the more we keep printing money, the more Bitcoin share of
• 34:43
  global assets has to grow. So Brian, just like put it so
• 34:48
  beautifully. And, and I love the the analogy
• 34:50
  of the lake because right now the amount of, of money that is
• 34:54
  going to be injected into Bitcoin just to protect the
• 34:57
  value of, of that so-called lake is going to be enormous.
• 35:02
  Yeah, 100% it. It really is incredible once you
• 35:07
  understand that, hey, you know, whatever portion of the $900
• 35:11
  trillion global, you know, store value equity in the world or
• 35:16
  global capital of the world you think is going to end up into
• 35:19
  Bitcoin, you got to remember it's going into less than 21
• 35:22
  million coins. And that just, you know, big
• 35:26
  numbers are hard to wrap your head around.
• 35:28
  And you know, when you really get down into the hype and the
• 35:33
  of, of where Bitcoin is going, sometimes these price
• 35:36
  predictions, we, we may be very conservative on them.
• 35:39
  Like maybe not in our lifetimes, maybe it's in our
• 35:42
  grandchildren's lifetimes. But if Bitcoin is around for the
• 35:46
  next 1000 years, like Sailor likes to say, it's, it's going
• 35:51
  to be an insane amount of money or wealth that you own today in
• 35:54
  the Bitcoin that you currently claim.
• 35:56
  So make sure that you are securing it correctly.
• 35:58
  Make sure you are thinking long term, make sure you 10X whatever
• 36:02
  you have today in Fiat terms. And that's how you should be
• 36:04
  securing this coin because you want to be holding it long term.
• 36:07
  Don't trade the, you know, the hardest thing to do is to do
• 36:10
  nothing. And I, I think we've all been
• 36:13
  feeling this as bitcoiners for the last couple of months.
• 36:15
  So it's like, man, like it's very hard to just sit around and
• 36:19
  hold your Bitcoin and continue to stack when it's not really
• 36:21
  doing anything. You know, shit posting gets
• 36:23
  tiring sometimes. You know, it, it, it runs, you
• 36:27
  know, negative on your mental health at times.
• 36:29
  And you're like, all right, I just need to unplug for a little
• 36:31
  bit. Like we all know where it's
• 36:32
  going, dude. It's often going to be around
• 36:36
  for 1000. You know, dude, I am not going
• 36:38
  to be a Cyborg. I do not believe in chipping
• 36:41
  myself. You know that I'm, I'm not about
• 36:42
  that. Anyways.
• 36:44
  ANYWAYS, I do want to talk about in the next segment this this
• 36:48
  idea of corporate adoption of Bitcoin.
• 36:51
  Is this a good thing? Is this a bad thing?
• 36:53
  We had this huge announcement from Jack Mahler's come out
• 36:56
  yesterday or was it 2 days ago? And there has been it has
• 37:00
  spurred this this argument again.
• 37:03
  Maybe you could say it's a new floodline is like corporations
• 37:05
  are they Co opting Bitcoin? So I got a good article from
• 37:08
  Bitcoin Mag and then I have a clip from my boy Nolan.
• 37:11
  He's one of my favorite content creators and I don't think he
• 37:14
  gets enough love on the show. So I want to play his clip, but
• 37:17
  what we'll breakdown is corporate adoption a Bitcoin a
• 37:20
  bad thing? Are they Co opting us?
• 37:21
  Hence why I asked you in the chat is Bitcoin winning yes or
• 37:24
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• 37:26
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• 39:52
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• 39:55
  I just kind of laid it out ever since Jack Mahler's kind of came
• 39:58
  out and announced his 21 capital partnering with tether and
• 40:02
  SoftBank and Cantor Fitzgerald, The the meme, or rather the old
• 40:07
  floodline of corporate, you know, Co option of Bitcoin is
• 40:11
  taking place right in front of our eyes.
• 40:13
  And you know, a new, a new variation on the meme is
• 40:16
  starting to play out on Bitcoin Twitter with this idea of suit
• 40:18
  coiners are taking over. I I find that very hilarious.
• 40:21
  The suit coiners are taking over Bitcoin.
• 40:24
  And so I, I wanted to kind of talk about that and you guys let
• 40:27
  me know what you think in the chat.
• 40:28
  But I am going to start with this article here from Bitcoin
• 40:31
  Magazine. So they just dropped this and,
• 40:35
  and then I'll lay out kind of the Jack Mueller's take and I'm
• 40:37
  going to tee up my boy Nolan as a clip here.
• 40:39
  So this is titled, this is on Bitcoin Magazine.
• 40:42
  Is 8% of Bitcoin owned by institutions a threat to its
• 40:46
  future? Is Bitcoin's future at risk from
• 40:48
  8% institutional ownership? Discover how firms and ETS
• 40:52
  holding BTC could challenge its decent naturalized roots and
• 40:55
  market independence. So I'm not going to read the
• 40:57
  whole thing. You guys can find this on
• 40:58
  Bitcoin Magazine. I'm just going to kind of read
• 41:02
  read the headlines here a little bit.
• 41:03
  So institutional ownership of Bitcoin has surged over the past
• 41:06
  year, with around 8% of the total supply already in the
• 41:09
  hands of major entities. And that number is still
• 41:11
  climbing. ETFs, publicly listed companies,
• 41:14
  and even nation states have become begun securing
• 41:16
  substantial positions. This raises important questions
• 41:19
  for investors. Is this growing institutional
• 41:22
  presence a good thing for Bitcoin?
• 41:24
  And as more BTC becomes locked up in cold wallets, treasury
• 41:27
  holdings and ETFs, is our on chain data losing its
• 41:31
  reliability? In this analysis, we dig into
• 41:33
  the numbers trace of capital flows and explore whether
• 41:36
  Bitcoins decentralized ethos is truly at risk or simply
• 41:40
  evolving. And of course, there's new
• 41:42
  wells. And let's start with the
• 41:43
  treasury publicly listed companies tables.
• 41:46
  Major companies including Strategy, Metaplan and others
• 41:48
  have collectively accumulated more than 700,000 Bitcoin and
• 41:52
  also the ETFs have acquired more than a million Bitcoin.
• 41:55
  Considering that bitcoins total hard cap supply is 21 million,
• 41:58
  this represents roughly 3.33% of all BTC that will ever exist.
• 42:03
  While that supply ceiling won't be reaching our lifetime, the
• 42:05
  implications are clear. The institutions are making long
• 42:08
  term bets and of course there's some good charts and stuff.
• 42:12
  And then it starts talking about the loss Bitcoin.
• 42:15
  And, you know, we don't really know how much is lost, but the
• 42:19
  average guess is around like, you know, somewhere between 3 to
• 42:22
  5 million bitcoins are lost. So we all do math of Bitcoin,
• 42:27
  you know, total, total global capital divided by 21 million.
• 42:30
  I think we can probably lower those numbers to maybe a
• 42:34
  conservative idea of 18,000,000. Maybe it's all the way down to
• 42:38
  we're all vying for 15,000,000 Bitcoin.
• 42:41
  So we don't know how much is lost, but there's less Bitcoin
• 42:44
  than we even think. And then of course, this is
• 42:46
  where the main crux of the the FUD or conversation happens is
• 42:50
  our institutions controlling Bitcoin.
• 42:53
  So with all of the corporations coming into Bitcoin, does this
• 42:56
  mean Bitcoin is being controlled by corporations?
• 42:58
  They argue not yet, but it does signal a growing influence,
• 43:01
  especially in price behavior. Now this is kind of talking
• 43:05
  about this idea we've been covering the last couple of
• 43:07
  weeks of or rather months now that Bitcoin does seem very
• 43:11
  correlated to tech stocks. You know, when there is
• 43:14
  macroeconomic uncertainties, Bitcoin usually reacts first,
• 43:18
  whether that's dumping or if there's a bullish indicator to
• 43:22
  basically go into a sovereign, you know, non political store of
• 43:26
  value. You start to see gold pump and
• 43:28
  then Bitcoin pump. So there is this correlation
• 43:31
  right now because there is big money, you know, huge capital
• 43:35
  getting into Bitcoin and obviously they're reacting to
• 43:38
  different market forces. And the most liquid salable
• 43:41
  asset or money in the world is of course Bitcoin.
• 43:43
  It runs 24/7, 365 days out of the year.
• 43:46
  And so, you know, you sell what is most liquid upfront, you
• 43:50
  basically whatever is not bolted down to the floor, you sell that
• 43:54
  when you need it. And that's kind of what we're
• 43:56
  seeing play out in Bitcoin. And then of course, the need to
• 43:59
  adapt. And I think this is what we're
• 44:01
  seeing and even bitcoiners need to adapt to where we are right
• 44:04
  now, hence why I want to play this Nolan clip for you guys
• 44:06
  coming up shortly. So historically much of bitcoins
• 44:09
  trading activity has occurred off chain, particularly on in
• 44:12
  centralized exchanges like Coinbase Finance and Once Upon a
• 44:15
  time FTX. These trades rarely appear on
• 44:18
  chain in meaningful ways, but still influence price and market
• 44:21
  structure. Today we face a similar
• 44:23
  situation only with better tools.
• 44:25
  Obviously, ETF flows, corporate filings and even nation state
• 44:28
  purchases are subject to disclosure regulations.
• 44:31
  Unlike opaque exchanges, these institutional players are often
• 44:34
  must disclose their holdings, providing an analysts with a
• 44:38
  wealth of data to track and and moreover, though on chain
• 44:41
  analyst isn't static and there's different tools to check out.
• 44:45
  So yet this does not spell doom for Bitcoin decentralization or
• 44:49
  the relevance of on chain analytics.
• 44:51
  In fact, as more BTC is held by identifiable institutions, the
• 44:55
  ability to track flow becomes even more precise and the retail
• 44:59
  footprint remains dominant. Like if you understand the on
• 45:03
  chain metrics, the majority of coin is held by individuals.
• 45:06
  Yes, there is a new influx and and they're they're getting a
• 45:10
  sizable chunk into institutions and of course starting to see
• 45:14
  nation state treasuries start to increase.
• 45:17
  But the majority of Bitcoin is held by individuals.
• 45:19
  And so, you know, I, I think those concerns are a little over
• 45:23
  bloated, but the conclusion to wrap it up, institutional
• 45:26
  interest in Bitcoin has never been higher between ETFs,
• 45:29
  corporate treasuries and sovereign entities, over 2.2
• 45:32
  million Bitcoin are already spoken for and that number is
• 45:34
  growing. This flood of capital has
• 45:36
  undoubtedly had a stabilizing effect on price during periods
• 45:39
  of market weakness. However, with that stability
• 45:41
  comes entanglement. Bitcoin is becoming more tied to
• 45:44
  traditional financial systems, increasing its correlation to
• 45:47
  equities and broader economic sentiment.
• 45:49
  Yet this does not spell doom for Bitcoin decentralization or the
• 45:52
  relevance of on chain analytics. In fact, as more BTC is held by
• 45:56
  identifiable institutions, again the ability to track flows
• 45:59
  becomes even more precise. Bitcoins ethos of
• 46:02
  decentralization isn't at risk, it's just maturing.
• 46:05
  And as long as our analytical frameworks evolve alongside the
• 46:08
  asset, we'll be well whipped to navigate whatever comes next.
• 46:12
  So, you know, you don't have to take our words.
• 46:14
  You can tell me in the chat whether we're wrong here.
• 46:16
  But I I kind of fall on the same side that, yes, you know, a lot
• 46:20
  of Bitcoin, maybe it's a little worrying that it's going into
• 46:23
  institutions. You know, BlackRock and Larry
• 46:25
  Fink and Michael Saylor are talking about holding millions
• 46:29
  of coins or hundreds of thousands of coins for forever.
• 46:33
  And it's never going to go back into the market.
• 46:36
  But the majority of Bitcoin is held by individuals like you and
• 46:39
  I. Anyway, I want to pivot this
• 46:41
  conversation into the recent announcement by Jack Maulers in
• 46:46
  21 Capital. And I have a tweet here by
• 46:48
  Anthony Pompoliano to kind of get me into what what, what,
• 46:52
  what I really want to play for you guys.
• 46:54
  So Pomp goes 21 a new publicly, a new public company was
• 46:58
  announced this morning. This was the 23rd.
• 47:00
  So what's that? Wednesday?
• 47:02
  It will hold more than 42,000 Bitcoin, around $4 billion on
• 47:05
  its balance sheet and work to acquire as much Bitcoin is
• 47:07
  possible in the coming years. The company is backed by
• 47:09
  Tethers, SoftBank and Cantor Fitzgerald.
• 47:12
  The CEO will be Jack Mahlers. And I think this is the crux.
• 47:15
  Things are going to get crazy as more public entities start to
• 47:18
  enter the Bitcoin world. So now I want to play you this
• 47:22
  clip here from Nolan because I think he does a good job of
• 47:27
  summing up where we are right now in the movie.
• 47:30
  And I haven't heard a lot of Bitcoiners put it in this way.
• 47:33
  And I think this is like the bullish take away here.
• 47:35
  So I'm gonna play the Nolan clip, It's a minute, and then I
• 47:38
  have one last tweet for you guys and we'll chat about it.
• 47:41
  Combine the trade war, the Japanese element, and the stable
• 47:46
  coins and suddenly it's not just a micro strategy clone.
• 47:51
  This looks like a ship designed to chart through the waters of
• 47:54
  change that have been announced by the Trump administration the
• 47:57
  past few days. This looks purpose built to
• 48:00
  survive a reorganization of global finance.
• 48:03
  Already Bitcoin is leading in that narrative.
• 48:05
  Of course Bitcoin is leading in that narrative.
• 48:07
  But to see these huge pieces organize themselves around
• 48:11
  Bitcoin in order to traverse this market fluctuation, huge
• 48:16
  market change, the biggest market change people have said
• 48:18
  we've seen in 80 years since Bretton Woods or the end of the
• 48:21
  gold standard. So watching Bitcoin be the
• 48:23
  organizing principle for real huge institutions, the biggest
• 48:27
  Japanese VC fund, the biggest stablecoin issuer and a real
• 48:31
  Wall Street player, to me shows the Bitcoin really is that life
• 48:35
  raft really is exactly what we've all been saying for years,
• 48:38
  because these guys are putting them.
• 48:43
  Love it. This is this would be my take
• 48:45
  away as well. One thing we are noticing right
• 48:48
  now, and I've been kind of bringing this up on the show, we
• 48:51
  are seeing that, you know, whether you think this is just
• 48:55
  Trump, you know, not knowing what he's doing and messing up
• 48:58
  global markets or you think it's a controlled demolition so that
• 49:02
  we can kind of break up the global order.
• 49:04
  We are seeing one thing is becoming very, very obvious.
• 49:08
  We are entering, as Nolan was saying, a reorganization of the
• 49:12
  monetary order. And most people don't know what
• 49:16
  you know, what's going to win at the very end of the day, as a
• 49:18
  Bitcoiner, like Nolan was saying, I think Bitcoin will be
• 49:21
  the winner. And seeing 21 Capital with its
• 49:25
  partners come out and out such a big, big company with such a big
• 49:30
  treasury. I think it goes to show that
• 49:34
  we're starting to see as, as we were saying a couple of days
• 49:37
  ago, it's not so much that Wall Street has entered Bitcoin, it's
• 49:41
  now Bitcoin that has entered Wall Street.
• 49:43
  And I think this is going to fundamentally change the game.
• 49:46
  I I'm super bullish on 21 again, you know, I, I'm not given
• 49:51
  financial advice. I would not buy the stock.
• 49:53
  I'd just say buy Bitcoin because that's what they're doing.
• 49:55
  But I think the point remains the same.
• 49:57
  We are seeing a re restructuring of the monetary order, whether
• 50:02
  that's Larry Fink trying to position their customers into
• 50:05
  getting Bitcoin, whether we're seeing nation states talk about
• 50:08
  Bitcoin and stablecoin adoption or it's BRICS nations
• 50:12
  essentially saying or other. Yeah, every nation around the
• 50:15
  world right now besides the USA. Hey, we don't want U.S. debt, we
• 50:19
  don't want treasuries right now. We're trying to find an
• 50:21
  alternative. I think this is the main signal
• 50:24
  here. You're watching a restructuring
• 50:26
  of the monetary order in real time.
• 50:29
  And as a biased bitcoiner, I say Bitcoin is is the big winner at
• 50:33
  the end. Now last thing I want to say,
• 50:35
  you know, Nolan kind of brought it up.
• 50:37
  We brought it up on Wednesday, this idea of MicroStrategy and
• 50:41
  21 being competitors or rivals and here on Jack Mahler's
• 50:45
  announcement, I thought it was just, you know some good
• 50:48
  camaraderie in the bitcoins face.
• 50:49
  So here's Jack Mahler's he did a 15 minute video explaining what
• 50:53
  he's doing and Sailor responds congratulations on the launch of
• 50:57
  21 and Jack Mahler's same team salute emoji.
• 51:01
  So we're seeing, you know, we're seeing things play out where as
• 51:05
  a Bitcoiner, we, we kind of know what the end game is.
• 51:08
  And of course isn't like we're all in the kumbaya here, you
• 51:12
  know, we're all in the Pac-Man game of trying to acquire as
• 51:14
  much Bitcoin. But it is very interesting and
• 51:17
  one of the things my friend said, I'm blanking.
• 51:20
  I think it was a full time Bitcoin FTB on Twitter.
• 51:23
  He said it's very interesting to kind of reflect on Sailor's
• 51:28
  behavior the last couple of months.
• 51:30
  It seemed like he was panic buying Bitcoin every week.
• 51:33
  And it's probably because he knew that Jack Muller's was
• 51:36
  coming out. So as more big companies
• 51:39
  compete, as bigger institutions and nation states come in
• 51:42
  Bitcoin and compete, as Wall Street competes to acquire as
• 51:44
  much Bitcoin, this benefits you. And, you know, I just really
• 51:48
  love that Nolan take and I that's the only reason I did
• 51:51
  this whole clip. I I needed to forget Nolan on
• 51:53
  the show. We got to get Nolan back on the
• 51:55
  show. Anyways, I'll go to Sophie.
• 51:57
  Sophie, what do you think about this?
• 52:00
  You weren't here when we talked about 21.
• 52:02
  Do you think we're seeing this this monetary reordering
• 52:06
  restructuring in real time? I know, I know Nico rants about
• 52:09
  Trump a lot to you. So what do you think's playing
• 52:12
  out in in global trad fight currently?
• 52:15
  Well, actually, I think the beauty of all of this is that it
• 52:18
  has very little to do with Trump.
• 52:20
  I think actually the Fed and what they're doing has more to
• 52:24
  do with government regulation and them going to probably, you
• 52:28
  know, pitch deregulation to Congress.
• 52:30
  That has more to do with the political side.
• 52:33
  This is the private institutions, the private sector
• 52:37
  of the United States, furthering their belief and their backing
• 52:42
  of Bitcoin. And you know, I'm tired of all
• 52:45
  of these purity tests that we're playing mostly online and like,
• 52:49
  look, everyone's freaking out that Bitcoin is being Co opted
• 52:54
  by corporations, by the people in suits, Wall Street
• 52:57
  billionaires, whatever. But here's what I've noticed
• 53:01
  after years of being in the space.
• 53:04
  Bitcoin changes you. You don't change Bitcoin.
• 53:08
  Bitcoin changes you, you come in thinking that, you know, these,
• 53:12
  these corporations, they're, they're thinking like, oh, I'm
• 53:14
  going to make my, my, my customers so much money by
• 53:17
  making, you know, them buy our stonks.
• 53:20
  And, and in reality, what's going to happen is that they're
• 53:24
  going to buy Bitcoin and they're going to turn into Bitcoiners.
• 53:27
  And the next thing you know, they're going to be tweeting
• 53:29
  about energy, sovereignty, Austrian economics, about how
• 53:33
  they're eating a piece of rib eye every single day.
• 53:36
  And they're going to be worried about the fact that we're
• 53:39
  printing money and they're going to actually be changed by
• 53:43
  Bitcoin because they're the ethos that we have as a
• 53:47
  community is so much larger than the profits that they can be
• 53:50
  making for their customers. They don't have to believe it
• 53:54
  right now, but by mere adoption, it's going to make people
• 53:59
  change. So if Jack Mahlers brings
• 54:02
  SoftBank and Cantor Fitzgerald into the game, that's awesome.
• 54:06
  Put them in the arena because Bitcoin is going to work on
• 54:09
  them. It doesn't.
• 54:10
  Bitcoin isn't going to make people sell out.
• 54:13
  It's going to call people in. Yeah, totally.
• 54:16
  And again, I I brought this up on Wednesday the the interesting
• 54:20
  story about the SoftBank CEO. He bought like the 2017 top and
• 54:25
  he said like I had two big of a holdings in the 2018 bear market
• 54:29
  and it was distracting me from my work.
• 54:31
  And he sold out at like I think it was somewhere between 50 to
• 54:34
  $130 million loss. And now he's coming back into
• 54:37
  the game, what, eight years later or seven years later.
• 54:40
  And it does kind of remind you of sailors trajectory as well.
• 54:44
  You know, he was a big Bitcoin. Hey, and then now he's like the
• 54:47
  biggest Bitcoin proponent and. Buy it at the price you deserve.
• 54:51
  Exactly. Changes you.
• 54:53
  It changes your entire way of life.
• 54:55
  People don't believe it. They call us extremists.
• 54:58
  They call us weirdos. They call us toxic Bitcoin
• 55:01
  maximalists, but in reality, we're trying to teach you how to
• 55:06
  live a better life and how to be on a better monetary standard.
• 55:11
  It's like when they tell you to eat your vegetables or your
• 55:14
  steak or whatever in this case. So when you're a little like,
• 55:17
  and you're like, no, I want to eat junk food and processed
• 55:20
  foods. And then when you're older, you
• 55:22
  realize, oh, damn, like I probably should have, you know,
• 55:24
  eaten real food. This is the real food.
• 55:27
  This is the signal. This is the stuff that's going
• 55:30
  to carry us into a brighter future.
• 55:33
  So it's just a matter of time. I'm all for it.
• 55:36
  I'm so happy that bigger corporations are buying Bitcoin
• 55:39
  because it's just a signal of adoption, a general adoption.
• 55:45
  Yeah, and that's what I was going to say.
• 55:47
  Someone said preach selfie what we're seeing.
• 55:52
  And I think whether it's the Fed news in the beginning of the
• 55:55
  show, whether it's his 21 capital story, whether it's
• 55:59
  Saylor or Trump embracing Bitcoin, you know, the, the, the
• 56:04
  Besant camp embracing Bitcoin, what we're seeing is Bitcoin
• 56:08
  being seen as a mature asset in traditional finance.
• 56:11
  And I know there everyone in the chat saying, like, if you say
• 56:14
  this time is different, that means like you're, you're the
• 56:17
  you're the chump for exit liquidity.
• 56:19
  But the narrative around Bitcoin, I think has
• 56:21
  fundamentally changed in the last year or so.
• 56:24
  And it's going to be very exciting to see where this goes.
• 56:26
  Anyways, I'm ranting too much Brian.
• 56:29
  And what's your thoughts on maybe even the 21 capital, but
• 56:33
  what Nolan was saying? Yeah, no, it's really, I mean,
• 56:35
  this is what we do. We rant.
• 56:36
  I mean, this is, you know, there's no, there's no problem
• 56:38
  there. I mean, so going back to the,
• 56:42
  the, the beginning of that segment where the, the concern
• 56:45
  was, are institutions getting too much Bitcoin?
• 56:49
  Are you freaking kidding me? Is this the is this the problem
• 56:52
  that we've caused is that banks and institutions want Bitcoin so
• 56:57
  bad that now we as Bitcoiners are whining about it like this
• 57:00
  is a beautiful, beautiful world that we've created for
• 57:03
  ourselves. I think it was notorious BIG
• 57:07
  that said MO moni MO problems, right?
• 57:09
  Like this. This is what happens when you
• 57:11
  get to be somebody in the world. Guess what?
• 57:14
  Nobody hates you when, when, when nobody knows your name.
• 57:17
  But when you become famous, people start to hate you, right?
• 57:21
  Like, but there's also people that love you, yes.
• 57:23
  So there's, there's good and bad that come with progress in life.
• 57:26
  Like when you do anything successfully, it's going to
• 57:28
  catch the attention of other people.
• 57:29
  Now this is true for all of history.
• 57:31
  Like if you go back to the Bronze Age and you, you and, and
• 57:35
  you know, bronze technology comes out and people are making
• 57:37
  swords. Well, your tribe or your people
• 57:39
  group better acquire as many swords as possible or you will
• 57:43
  be irrelevant. The ones who didn't acquire
• 57:46
  swords didn't move to the next epoch of human history.
• 57:49
  Then you move, then you move forward to the catapult.
• 57:52
  And if you don't acquire enough catapults, then you don't stay
• 57:54
  around. And then you move to the
• 57:57
  industrial age. And if you don't acquire enough
• 57:59
  airplanes, then your country becomes conquered by a another
• 58:02
  bigger country that has more airplanes.
• 58:04
  You, you do this like this. We're in an arms race right now.
• 58:08
  And just because the big boys are acquiring Bitcoin doesn't
• 58:11
  mean that that hope is lost. No, who cares?
• 58:16
  You acquire as much Bitcoin as you possibly can and you will be
• 58:20
  protected for that. And so that it's like ask, you
• 58:25
  know, any time somebody that's new to Bitcoin or isn't in
• 58:28
  Bitcoin, excuse me, says, oh, aren't you worried that these
• 58:31
  institutions are buying so much Bitcoin?
• 58:34
  You know what, I always ask them politely.
• 58:37
  I said, you know, how much Bitcoin do you need to have in
• 58:40
  order to control the network? And they're like, I don't know
• 58:43
  must like you, you if, if you understand Bitcoin, you could
• 58:48
  have 21 million Bitcoin and you don't control the network.
• 58:51
  So run a node, mine, hold Bitcoin, all those things that's
• 58:56
  great. You can protect yourself by by
• 58:58
  doing those things. It's it's not proof of stake.
• 59:01
  That's why we don't Ethereum because yes, if you were on
• 59:05
  Ethereum, the more Ethereum you have, you control the network.
• 59:08
  We are we are liberating ourselves from that because were
• 59:14
  about proof of work. Bitcoin is proof of work.
• 59:16
  So put in the work. Fast forwarding to to to the the
• 59:21
  clip about Cantor Fitzgerald. Can anybody go Google who is the
• 59:26
  chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald? It's Howard Lutnick.
• 59:30
  Howard Lutnick is probably the second most influential.
• 59:34
  He's the the secretary of commerce in the Trump administ
• 59:37
  administration. He's probably the second most
• 59:39
  influential person in terms of monetary policy in Trump's ear.
• 59:44
  His company is Cantor Fitzgerald.
• 59:46
  His company just started a publicly traded Bitcoin
• 59:49
  acquisition company. So is the writing on the wall?
• 59:52
  Like we always said, Oh my gosh, Nancy Pelosi and she got all
• 59:55
  these stock trades and man, we didn't find out about these
• 59:57
  stock trades until after they happened.
• 59:59
  So people weren't able to profit off of them.
• 1:00:02
  This you see the move right now. Do you want the heads up on
• 1:00:06
  what's going to happen? Cantor Fitzgerald is in the
• 1:00:11
  White House influencing Trump's policy on Bitcoin, and they are
• 1:00:15
  buying like crazy. Act accordingly.
• 1:00:18
  Buyers, hold on. I think what if you wrap what
• 1:00:25
  Brian just said with what Nolan said?
• 1:00:28
  And I know this is kind of an out there idea, but we are
• 1:00:32
  finding ourselves currently in like an economic World War right
• 1:00:36
  now. And it's not kinetic.
• 1:00:38
  It's about trying to acquire the most pristine capital period.
• 1:00:42
  And if you're a Bitcoiner, you understand that that is Bitcoin.
• 1:00:46
  And seeing these, as Brian was saying, the writing on the wall,
• 1:00:50
  you know, Howard Leutnick, he's literally in the Trump
• 1:00:52
  administration launching a, you know, company to acquire as much
• 1:00:55
  Bitcoin as possible. If this isn't a signal for what
• 1:00:58
  you should be doing personally, like you're asleep at the wheel.
• 1:01:02
  This is the writing on the wall. This is what I think most people
• 1:01:05
  aren't seeing. If you're wrapped up watching
• 1:01:07
  traditional corporate press, if you're not fully inundated with
• 1:01:10
  Bitcoin content, you're probably missing out on the biggest, you
• 1:01:14
  know, opportunity to change your life.
• 1:01:16
  And if you're watching the show right now, you're here, you
• 1:01:19
  should be stacking and that's what 3400 of you guys live right
• 1:01:23
  now on Twitter, YouTube and Rumble like you guys are ahead
• 1:01:27
  of the game. So you know, you guys are are
• 1:01:30
  front running everything. And you know, you could argue
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  All right, Brian, good to have you on the show.
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  Always, always a pleasure when you come on bro, let's just do
• 1:04:18
  do a literally 2 sentence plug for Orange pull up for people
• 1:04:22
  that may not be familiar with it.
• 1:04:23
  And I'll pull up the QR code. And then let's talk about your
• 1:04:25
  recent updates or recent drops and, and the call of action
• 1:04:28
  because I think that's pretty cool.
• 1:04:30
  So here we go guys, scan the QR code now, Brian, do the, you
• 1:04:34
  know, one minute elevator pitch. I'm sure most of them have heard
• 1:04:37
  about Orange Pull up. They're one of our sponsors.
• 1:04:40
  We love them, but for those that maybe aren't familiar with it,
• 1:04:43
  what is Orange Pull App? And then let's talk about your
• 1:04:45
  latest drops. Well, let me say it like this.
• 1:04:49
  I'm never brief, but I'm going to be brief right now.
• 1:04:52
  There are Bitcoiners in your neighborhood that you don't
• 1:04:56
  know, and Orange Pull app is how you can become friends with
• 1:05:00
  those people. If you want to make in real life
• 1:05:03
  Bitcoin connections, this is the way to do it. 100% and I like,
• 1:05:10
  but you know, you guys told me last time you came on actually
• 1:05:13
  Mateo put me on blast last time you came on because I wasn't
• 1:05:16
  responding to my DII hardly respond to my my like actual
• 1:05:20
  text messages. I'm looking at my phone and I
• 1:05:22
  have like 15 text messages I haven't responded to.
• 1:05:25
  So it wasn't an orange pill app thing.
• 1:05:27
  It's more of a, you know, a behavioral default here, a
• 1:05:32
  behavioral issue on my end. But I have been responding to
• 1:05:35
  you guys, but I say it constantly.
• 1:05:37
  The biggest thing I did that improved my life was obviously
• 1:05:41
  not just partnering with a Bitcoiner to create simply
• 1:05:44
  Bitcoin for you guys, but moving to an area where I had Bitcoin
• 1:05:48
  friends. And the thing I love about
• 1:05:49
  Orange Pell App is like, we're all basically the lone crazy
• 1:05:53
  Bitcoiner. So you need to connect with
• 1:05:55
  Bitcoiners and Orange Pell App is a great way to do that.
• 1:05:58
  So Opti's going to find his future wife on on the orange
• 1:06:01
  Pell app it. Is not a dating app, Sophie,
• 1:06:04
  come on, It is not a dating app. It's not a dating app, but it
• 1:06:07
  could. Be but.
• 1:06:09
  Everything's a dating app if you use it.
• 1:06:10
  Correctly, everything's a dating app There's actually been a
• 1:06:13
  couple who's now married they met through Orangeville app so
• 1:06:17
  so. There you go.
• 1:06:18
  I mean, it's kind of a dating app.
• 1:06:20
  I mean, what's the? Help for me yet?
• 1:06:22
  Biggest dating app in the world is there's.
• 1:06:23
  No hope for you Opti not. Biggest dating app in the world
• 1:06:29
  is not Tinder, it is Instagram. So who knows I guess.
• 1:06:34
  Yeah, you write off the everything's a dating app if you
• 1:06:36
  want it to be, but it's also a friend app as well.
• 1:06:40
  Now here's the exciting thing. I'm not just talking about
• 1:06:43
  making Bitcoin friends Today we actually have a wallet.
• 1:06:45
  We just built a wallet, a native wallet to orange pull app.
• 1:06:49
  It it it launched last month and it has more robust functionality
• 1:06:54
  than any other lightning wallet in the world.
• 1:06:57
  Now, yes, you can pay invoices and all that kind of stuff, but
• 1:06:59
  we added features that are only available to the the functions
• 1:07:04
  that we have in orange pull app. So what are some of the things
• 1:07:06
  that you have in orange pull app?
• 1:07:07
  You have things like group chats.
• 1:07:08
  Well, if I want to mass ZAP, which is one of our new features
• 1:07:11
  that doesn't exist anywhere else, I can go into my group
• 1:07:14
  chat. So if I have a a group chat of
• 1:07:16
  of local entrepreneur bitcoiners and I want to ZAP everybody in
• 1:07:20
  that group chat and say there's 50 people in there or there's 10
• 1:07:22
  people in there, I can click the lightning bolt and with a few
• 1:07:25
  strokes ZAP everybody in that group.
• 1:07:29
  I can ZAP them in an invite. I can send a message to them
• 1:07:31
  through obviously using the lightning lightning network,
• 1:07:33
  which is cool. I can also Geo ZAP.
• 1:07:37
  So because we have a location based services for the app which
• 1:07:40
  you can toggle on or off anytime.
• 1:07:42
  But if you have that location on, people can ZAP you by city,
• 1:07:46
  by country, they can ZAP the entire world.
• 1:07:49
  And So what are the implications of something like that?
• 1:07:53
  Well, we're, we're not looking forward to the next natural
• 1:07:56
  disaster, but we know that the next natural disaster is going
• 1:07:59
  to happen. And when it does, we're ready
• 1:08:02
  with Orangeville app to enable the Bitcoin social layer to
• 1:08:06
  impact, positively impact those Bitcoiners who are who are
• 1:08:09
  negatively impacted by the next natural disaster.
• 1:08:12
  So what do I mean by that? Say there's a God forbid there's
• 1:08:15
  a a another hurricane in Florida, which we know there's
• 1:08:17
  gonna be, but if it's big enough.
• 1:08:19
  Where? People are having problems.
• 1:08:22
  They might get a check from FEMA for $700 in a week, 2 weeks, a
• 1:08:27
  month. Or members of Orange Pull App
• 1:08:31
  can go on and ZAP everyone in Florida or everyone in Miami or
• 1:08:36
  everyone in your town instantaneously.
• 1:08:39
  So while governments and regulators and all that kind of
• 1:08:42
  stuff are scrambling to try and help people locally through the
• 1:08:45
  Orange Pull Apps wallet, we can natively ZAP those people.
• 1:08:49
  Now, one of the things that we're going to do today is we're
• 1:08:52
  going to set a record and at what is it?
• 1:08:56
  It's 12:42 Pacific Time right now by one O clock Pacific Time.
• 1:09:02
  So in just a few hours, in about two hours from now, anybody who
• 1:09:05
  wants to participate in this, you guys are going to get to
• 1:09:08
  participate in a world record-breaking day in Bitcoin.
• 1:09:12
  Today, the record for lightning payments around the world is
• 1:09:18
  going to be set. It's estimated that the world
• 1:09:20
  record right now is about 475 to 500,000.
• 1:09:24
  That's probably the on the higher end today, Orange pull
• 1:09:28
  apps Lightning node is going to process over 500,000
• 1:09:32
  transactions and we need you guys to be a part of history in
• 1:09:35
  doing this. So we're going to kick this off
• 1:09:38
  at 1:00 Pacific Time today. Orange pill app is going to ZAP
• 1:09:43
  the world. So anybody who has an orange
• 1:09:45
  pill app wallet is going to automatically get zapped sats
• 1:09:49
  into their wallet. That is about about 50,000
• 1:09:53
  wallets that right off the bat we're going to ZAP.
• 1:09:55
  So we're going to already have 50,000 lightning transactions in
• 1:09:59
  an instant. Now we need you guys to help
• 1:10:02
  participate in helping us bridge the gap of the other 450,000.
• 1:10:06
  So if if we get 1000 bitcoiners to to send 500 SAT's So
• 1:10:12
  basically you can mass app you can with one button say, hey, I
• 1:10:14
  want to send 500 people one SAT. We will break the record today
• 1:10:19
  and you will get to go into the annals of Bitcoin history by
• 1:10:23
  saying the day that the Bitcoin Lightning network was set, I was
• 1:10:27
  a part of it. Now you might not be Michael
• 1:10:30
  Saylor, I might not be Jack Muller's, we might not have our
• 1:10:33
  names in the history books because we created the first
• 1:10:35
  publicly traded companies that stacked 1,000,000 Bitcoin or
• 1:10:39
  anything like that. But plebs can participate in the
• 1:10:42
  social layer. And where is the social layer
• 1:10:44
  happening? Well, it's happening on Orange
• 1:10:46
  Pull app and we have these new cool tools like the the Orange
• 1:10:50
  Pull app Lightning wallet enable new things, new concepts with
• 1:10:54
  the Lightning wallet that have never been done before.
• 1:10:56
  So if you're on the Lightning or if you're on Orange pull up by
• 1:11:00
  1:00 PM Pacific Time today, you will get zapped sats.
• 1:11:03
  And we hope that you turn around and maybe share some of your own
• 1:11:06
  Sats or some of the Sats that we send you to other people as well
• 1:11:10
  so that we can break that 500,000 transaction milestone.
• 1:11:15
  Incredible. OK, so you said you just need
• 1:11:18
  1000 people to send 500 SAT to 500 people?
• 1:11:23
  So no. So they only need to send one.
• 1:11:26
  Yeah, five. Oh, yeah.
• 1:11:27
  OK, OK. Yeah, so so they could just say
• 1:11:29
  and and it's, it's super simple. And when you guys go into
• 1:11:32
  Orangeville app, it'll literally who do you want to ZAP?
• 1:11:34
  OK, I'm going to ZAP this group of people.
• 1:11:36
  For example, we have a SAT's faucet on there.
• 1:11:38
  If you guys remember the old Bitcoin faucet, you could go, I
• 1:11:41
  mean, none of us were around for that, right?
• 1:11:43
  Where you could go and just get like 5 Bitcoin every day by just
• 1:11:46
  solving a captcha on a website. So we even have a SAT's faucet
• 1:11:50
  group in Orangeville app. If you join that group, you get
• 1:11:52
  zapped like 21 SAT's every once in a while.
• 1:11:55
  We every, everybody in that group just got a random 21 SAT's
• 1:11:57
  earlier this morning. So we have things like that.
• 1:12:00
  You can just go into a group or you can go into the search bar
• 1:12:03
  and just look up whatever type of group of people you want to
• 1:12:06
  send. So if I, I live in Southern
• 1:12:08
  California, so I could, I could go and look up a city in
• 1:12:11
  Southern California and I want to say I wanna ZAP everybody in
• 1:12:14
  this city one SAT. So I just do that.
• 1:12:16
  I click the button and it goes out to however many bitcoiners
• 1:12:19
  are in my city. So you could do that.
• 1:12:22
  And so you could send 500 different lightning invoices
• 1:12:25
  with one click of a button. Incredible Well, I do have a
• 1:12:30
  goldfish memory, so I'm going to try to remember 2 hours from
• 1:12:33
  now, but I wasn't part of the Lightning Network torch the
• 1:12:37
  original 1, you know, I don't even remember was that 2018 or
• 1:12:40
  something like that. So I'm really going to try to
• 1:12:44
  remember. I want I do want to be a part of
• 1:12:46
  this. I think this is pretty cool.
• 1:12:47
  Hopefully we can break that today.
• 1:12:49
  This is awesome. But we do have some questions in
• 1:12:51
  the chat, Brian, for I guess people that aren't familiar with
• 1:12:55
  the Orange Pill apps business model.
• 1:12:57
  There's actually 2 questions and I will link them together.
• 1:13:01
  So RL says, is this app free or is it subscription based?
• 1:13:05
  And the follow up one, which is probably a hot take here, a
• 1:13:08
  spicy question is, does it increase your chances of being
• 1:13:12
  $5 Rents attack. And that's the reason I combine
• 1:13:15
  them is because This is why you do what you do in the way that
• 1:13:20
  you do it. Yeah.
• 1:13:22
  So this is this is part of it that I thank you for pairing
• 1:13:24
  those two together because yes, the first one answers the second
• 1:13:27
  one at least to some degree. So it is a subscription based
• 1:13:31
  app and it's like Bitcoin, you pay to use it.
• 1:13:35
  You don't send a Bitcoin transaction for free.
• 1:13:37
  That's why the network doesn't get spammed.
• 1:13:39
  And so if for the same reason, there's a subscription to enter
• 1:13:43
  orange orange pill app, it's a it's a private club.
• 1:13:45
  And that is one of the most high signal things we can do to
• 1:13:48
  ensure that there's no spammers or scammers or anybody that's
• 1:13:52
  just trying to ask you how your crypto trading is going.
• 1:13:54
  You're not going to get any of that in the same way that you
• 1:13:56
  would on, on another platform. And so, so, so there's that,
• 1:14:00
  that degree of, of filter right there.
• 1:14:03
  And then it's funny that the $5 wrench attack at Pacific Bitcoin
• 1:14:08
  a couple years ago, we actually had Ben Askren come out and do
• 1:14:10
  a, a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu seminar for us.
• 1:14:13
  It was called the $5 wrench attack seminar.
• 1:14:15
  So it was like, hey, learn how to not get choked out.
• 1:14:18
  But but the fact of the matter is you exercise all of the
• 1:14:22
  cautions you exercise in in real life.
• 1:14:25
  Do you on Twitter, that's where it's free do and and you know,
• 1:14:28
  nobody assuming knows your location.
• 1:14:31
  Do you put out your you know, you put out your Bitcoin address
• 1:14:34
  out there. Do you put out your, your, your
• 1:14:36
  seed phrase? No, like we exercise certain
• 1:14:38
  cautions in life. And so I would say that with all
• 1:14:41
  things like of course, exercise caution, you're a bitcoiner,
• 1:14:45
  you're self sovereign, yes, your money is your responsibility.
• 1:14:48
  And so take the appropriate cautions just like anything
• 1:14:51
  else. I don't, you know, I've met
• 1:14:53
  plenty, I've, I've made plenty of business deals with people
• 1:14:56
  whom I've met online. And then at some point we have
• 1:14:59
  to jump into the real world and that, that's it.
• 1:15:01
  That's even true in the Fiat world.
• 1:15:03
  I've made Fiat business deals where I knew I, I, I was
• 1:15:06
  connected on to this person through LinkedIn or whatever
• 1:15:09
  happens to be. And then we make real world
• 1:15:11
  business and there's a degree of risk to that, but I make sure
• 1:15:15
  that I mitigate that risk by just exercising general IQ, like
• 1:15:19
  of, of a basic IQ level. It's, it's, it's very, very
• 1:15:22
  safe. And so I've met dozens of
• 1:15:24
  Bitcoiners in my city and I can tell you that the experience is
• 1:15:28
  always absolutely fantastic. Most bitcoiners sadly don't know
• 1:15:34
  other real life bitcoiners. Or maybe they've gone to a
• 1:15:36
  conference and they've met them there, but then they don't know
• 1:15:39
  them in their hometown. I guarantee you there's probably
• 1:15:42
  a meet up closer than you think. Orangeville app is the world's
• 1:15:45
  largest repository of Bitcoin only events.
• 1:15:48
  So say you don't want to meet somebody one-on-one.
• 1:15:50
  Well, that's fine. You can find a local.
• 1:15:52
  You might have a a local Bitcoin only meet up.
• 1:15:55
  By the way, Bitcoin only. It's very, very difficult to
• 1:15:57
  find Bitcoin only meet ups. We also filter.
• 1:16:00
  So any event that you find in the app is also a Bitcoin only.
• 1:16:03
  You're not going to show up. It's not going to be a surprise
• 1:16:05
  web three meet up or something like that.
• 1:16:07
  It's going to be high signal Bitcoin only, but more than
• 1:16:10
  likely there's one at a coffee shop right around the corner
• 1:16:13
  from you. And so the value proposition of
• 1:16:16
  this is so high that that, you know, it's one of those things
• 1:16:20
  like Bitcoiners tend to get it. I will pay for something that
• 1:16:23
  has high value. I pay for a bit to to to send a
• 1:16:26
  Bitcoin transaction because the alternative is I'm told that I
• 1:16:30
  can send a visa transaction for free, but is it really free?
• 1:16:33
  No, it's not really free. At least with Bitcoin and Orange
• 1:16:37
  pull app, we're transparent in the way we do things that we, we
• 1:16:39
  tell you what the cost is upfront so that you can make an
• 1:16:42
  informed decision about whether you want used or not.
• 1:16:45
  And we found that over 16,000 bitcoiners have already joined
• 1:16:49
  the network and it's growing every single day.
• 1:16:51
  So it's kind of like Bitcoin. This thing seems to be going in
• 1:16:55
  One Direction. Absolutely love it, Brian.
• 1:16:58
  That was a great response. You know, I, I, I covered
• 1:17:02
  everything that you wanted to talk about.
• 1:17:04
  So you we have more time if you want to chat about some other
• 1:17:07
  stuff here and what what else you got top of mind.
• 1:17:09
  Wait, can I ask a question? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:12
  So I, I love that you brought up the fact that natural disasters
• 1:17:17
  do happen. I'm currently in Puerto Rico.
• 1:17:19
  I, you know, saw the aftermath of Hurricane Maria.
• 1:17:23
  I've lived in Miami my whole life where I've dealt with
• 1:17:26
  hurricanes and I've seen the huge impact that it has on
• 1:17:30
  communities. And I just want you to talk a
• 1:17:32
  little bit more about how that if like the orange pill app can
• 1:17:37
  help people come together during those times because like you
• 1:17:40
  mentioned, FEMA will, you know, you'll wait like 2-3 weeks, like
• 1:17:44
  sometimes never to get those checks and that support that you
• 1:17:48
  need almost immediately. I remember recently when one of
• 1:17:51
  the Hurricanes hit up in the West side of Florida, there was
• 1:17:57
  the Bitcoin mom who was, you know, basically survived that
• 1:18:01
  whole ordeal because of the support of the Bitcoin
• 1:18:04
  community. So if you could, I think that
• 1:18:07
  that's so important and if you could just talk a little bit
• 1:18:09
  more about that, I'd love to hear about it.
• 1:18:11
  Yeah, well, and unfortunately when so I live in Southern
• 1:18:14
  California when the when the LA fires were going on here.
• 1:18:17
  Now, thankfully I wasn't in it, but Mateo, the founder of the
• 1:18:20
  app, he, he, he had to go get out of his house and, and flee
• 1:18:24
  because he lives, you know, close to where the, you know,
• 1:18:27
  the, the epicenter of this was. And we knew lots of people in
• 1:18:31
  LA, we didn't have the wallet. It was in beta at that time.
• 1:18:34
  We didn't have it fully launched in the app.
• 1:18:35
  But what we did see from what we did have in the app was we still
• 1:18:39
  have the ability to connect with other Bitcoiners.
• 1:18:40
  So the social layer, even without the wallet, even without
• 1:18:43
  being able to ZAP people in that area, which again, you could do
• 1:18:46
  now. So like if the LA fires happened
• 1:18:47
  today, anyone on Orangeville app could say, hey, bro, do you
• 1:18:51
  like, let, let me, let me ZAP you some sats so you can go get
• 1:18:53
  an Airbnb tonight in another, in, in another town or something
• 1:18:56
  like that. You could do that.
• 1:18:57
  But what was happening back then was we had the ability to
• 1:19:00
  message those people and, and, and bitcoiners were offering
• 1:19:03
  other Bitcoiners a place to stay, like a place to stay.
• 1:19:07
  And so they were reaching out. It's like, Hey, bro, I know
• 1:19:09
  you're out in Lai live in San Diego.
• 1:19:12
  Do you, do you want to drive a couple hours and, and you know,
• 1:19:15
  you know, grab, I have an extra bedroom or we can put you up on
• 1:19:18
  the couch or something like that.
• 1:19:19
  It was amazing the response that was happening.
• 1:19:21
  And so it's not just the monetary resource.
• 1:19:24
  It's, it's the, it's the support, the love, the like,
• 1:19:28
  hey, bring your kids and camp out here for a night because
• 1:19:31
  we're going to take care of you. So, so, yeah, the, the social
• 1:19:34
  layer comes to the rescue and that again, even then it
• 1:19:38
  presents the opportunity of like, am I, am I, I'm meeting
• 1:19:41
  other people that I don't know. But as you talk to them, you can
• 1:19:45
  use your, your Spidey sense to, to kind of filter out the noise
• 1:19:48
  here. The cool thing about the app
• 1:19:49
  too, if you are concerned about, you know, privacy, you can be as
• 1:19:53
  anonymous as you like. Like you, the orange pull app
• 1:19:57
  wallet is actually the only and orange pull app in general is
• 1:20:00
  totally KYC free. So like there's no know your
• 1:20:02
  customer information in the app. And I believe we're one of the
• 1:20:05
  last US based lightning wallets that actually has that every
• 1:20:09
  other lighting wallet you have to do that.
• 1:20:10
  So so. It's one of those things like
• 1:20:12
  the low hanging fruit is to say, oh, is this going to a potential
• 1:20:15
  $5 wrench attack? The high hanging fruit is you're
• 1:20:18
  fundamentally changing people's lives and reaching out and
• 1:20:21
  helping them in their most desperate moments.
• 1:20:23
  And that's what makes for a winning side.
• 1:20:26
  Like, like the, the movements of history that win aren't the ones
• 1:20:31
  that like, when things got tough, they crumbled.
• 1:20:33
  No, when things got tough, you reinforce your, your, your
• 1:20:37
  social movement by saying, OK, we faced opposition from the
• 1:20:41
  government, Bitcoin fought back. Now we're now we're helping
• 1:20:44
  Bitcoiners when it comes to natural disasters or when
• 1:20:46
  somebody has cancer or when somebody loses their job, we're
• 1:20:50
  reinforcing Bitcoiners and, and we do that one, because we have
• 1:20:54
  a heart for those people, but two, it's because when we take
• 1:20:57
  care of those in the network, it reinforces the network and it
• 1:21:00
  just gets us one step closer to hyper bitcoinization.
• 1:21:03
  So it doesn't really matter if you're doing it for altruism or
• 1:21:06
  you're just doing it because you haven't aligned incentives.
• 1:21:08
  It just keep like it just seems to be that Bitcoin keeps winning
• 1:21:12
  whether you're doing it because you love people or whether
• 1:21:14
  you're doing it because you love yourself.
• 1:21:16
  In either case, it tends to kind of lead to the same outcome and
• 1:21:20
  it and when we're seeing that in real time.
• 1:21:22
  I love when Bitcoin companies align themselves with humanity
• 1:21:26
  and community because it makes it more than just the monetary
• 1:21:30
  thing, but a part of the culture.
• 1:21:32
  So thank you for what you're doing.
• 1:21:34
  I think that's really great. And I guess the follow up
• 1:21:37
  question to that would be if you're, if you have any future
• 1:21:41
  plans of using the SAP to create something like give send go or
• 1:21:46
  like a fundraising kind of app where people can raise money for
• 1:21:51
  each other with SAT's? Yeah.
• 1:21:53
  So we, we actually partner with pretty frequently.
• 1:21:56
  We, we partner with Geyser Fund. So if anybody hasn't worked with
• 1:22:00
  Geyser Fund before, they've helped us raise money.
• 1:22:03
  So we're big fans of Geyser fund and I definitely see because of
• 1:22:06
  our, our, our lightning wallet integration now there's probably
• 1:22:09
  a lot more room for partnerships with them going forward.
• 1:22:12
  So I wouldn't be surprised if, if, if you know, I could see
• 1:22:16
  this playing out this way, right?
• 1:22:18
  Maybe there's, there's you know, 16,000 members on Orange pill
• 1:22:21
  app, but maybe there's, there's a ton of bitcoiners that haven't
• 1:22:24
  signed up for orange pill app yet, but they give the Geyser
• 1:22:26
  fund and then Geyser fund uses our Geo zapping capability to
• 1:22:30
  ZAP those people. So I think we can harness each
• 1:22:33
  other's platforms to to make sure that we're impacting
• 1:22:36
  Bitcoiners in in, in the biggest way possible.
• 1:22:39
  Now, like same thing. I mean, there's massive
• 1:22:41
  implications here. Like think about if we went back
• 1:22:44
  to whenever the Canadian trucker rally was, what was that 21 or I
• 1:22:47
  don't know, was it in 2020 or 2021 was the Canadian trucker
• 1:22:51
  rally again, Bitcoiners would have been able to participate in
• 1:22:54
  Geo zapping the Canadian truckers.
• 1:22:56
  So it's not just natural disasters, it's freedom
• 1:22:59
  movements around the world. So yeah, just take, take a a A
• 1:23:04
  cause anywhere that's geographically located somewhere
• 1:23:08
  around the world and orange pull apps, Lightning wallet can help
• 1:23:11
  with that. Yeah.
• 1:23:13
  Hey, Brian. Love it.
• 1:23:14
  Love it. One thing I do kind of want to
• 1:23:17
  talk about here is we kind of had this theme throughout this
• 1:23:20
  week, like a very subtle theme starting this.
• 1:23:23
  Someone just said, I just subscribed to forever Laura.
• 1:23:26
  I just got a notification. All right there the people are.
• 1:23:29
  People are jumping in now. We had Svetsky on on Monday.
• 1:23:33
  And the reason I'm bringing this on or was it Tuesday, Monday, I
• 1:23:36
  think Monday, the reason I'm bringing this up is because he
• 1:23:40
  just dropped his book the Bushido Bitcoin.
• 1:23:43
  And it's very it's huge emphasis on like the character
• 1:23:47
  development of Bitcoiners themselves.
• 1:23:49
  And I know that there is kind of a pushback on this idea of like
• 1:23:53
  Bitcoin the social layer. And the reason again, I'm
• 1:23:56
  bringing this up is because Brian, I know you're very big on
• 1:23:58
  character development of bitcoiners.
• 1:24:00
  So I want, I want to tee you up and this is how we're going to
• 1:24:02
  wrap up today's show. And I think this is all, you
• 1:24:05
  know, all in the same lane here. This is all connected here.
• 1:24:08
  And I I'm sure you can do a good job of connecting the dots for
• 1:24:11
  the people. OK.
• 1:24:15
  So the, the push back on the on the Bitcoin social layer, I, I,
• 1:24:20
  I at the end of the day, I think there's going to be multiple
• 1:24:23
  camps. I mean, you, you see this in any
• 1:24:25
  kind of robust movement. Look at the church, right?
• 1:24:30
  The church is on every corner of the world, right?
• 1:24:33
  The church is, is probably the most successful movement in
• 1:24:37
  human history. Is there 1 sect of Christianity?
• 1:24:41
  No, there's like multiple sects of Christianity, right?
• 1:24:44
  There's the Catholic Church, there's the Baptist, there's the
• 1:24:46
  Presbyterians. So there's got to be bitcoiners
• 1:24:49
  with different Bitcoin theology, if you want to, if you want to
• 1:24:51
  put it that way. And, and I, I just personally
• 1:24:54
  believe that that if, if Bitcoin's going to win, it's
• 1:24:58
  gonna be, it's gonna be based on the people.
• 1:25:01
  And I think that a group of people that is a moral people,
• 1:25:05
  that is a robust people. It just, it, it, it adds to the
• 1:25:08
  inevitability of Bitcoin. The the founding fathers of the
• 1:25:12
  United States, they said that that our Constitution was
• 1:25:14
  written for a moral people. They said that this system is
• 1:25:19
  beautiful. But if we don't have moral
• 1:25:21
  people to continue to propel this system forward, then this
• 1:25:25
  democracy, this Republic that we've created will.
• 1:25:28
  It will go the way of every monarchy and every dictator of,
• 1:25:32
  of human history. Doesn't matter how beautiful the
• 1:25:34
  system is if we don't have a good and moral people to uphold
• 1:25:38
  it. And so Bitcoin perhaps is a bit
• 1:25:40
  different because it's computer code.
• 1:25:41
  So the network itself and how transactions process and all
• 1:25:45
  those things, it will continue YouTube function correctly.
• 1:25:49
  But the people on the other ends of those transactions, if
• 1:25:52
  they're not a good and moral people, if they don't have a, a,
• 1:25:54
  a, a general sense of wanting a better world and wanting better
• 1:25:58
  things for themselves, then then perhaps that, you know, perhaps
• 1:26:03
  that the future isn't so bright if we don't have those people
• 1:26:06
  helping facilitate the network. At the end of the day, I, I, I
• 1:26:09
  subscribe to the idea. And this sounds like heresy, but
• 1:26:14
  Bitcoin is without Bitcoiners is like a bunch of zeros and ones,
• 1:26:19
  right? Like it's, it's Bitcoin is
• 1:26:21
  nothing without bitcoiners. And so some people find that,
• 1:26:25
  like I said, to be heresy. I think other people find that
• 1:26:28
  to be empowering. Could be because it means that
• 1:26:31
  if you want a better world and you think Bitcoin's going to
• 1:26:33
  change the world, you don't just get to sit back on your hands
• 1:26:36
  and watch the world change before you.
• 1:26:38
  The call is for you to participate in that.
• 1:26:41
  So yeah, you do things to help develop your character.
• 1:26:44
  I I wholeheartedly agree with Svetsky on that, the Bushido
• 1:26:47
  aspect of it. But I believe that that the
• 1:26:50
  network effect of people working together is just far more
• 1:26:54
  powerful than individuals just kind of aimlessly wandering
• 1:26:57
  through life. All right guys, this was today
• 1:27:06
  actually, I, I do got a plug our boys over at Bitcoin magazine.
• 1:27:10
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• 1:27:13
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• 1:27:17
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• 1:27:21
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• 1:27:23
  100K by what's the what's the meme 100K by conference day.
• 1:27:27
  I think this is going to be the biggest coin conference ever,
• 1:27:31
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• 1:27:35
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• 1:27:41
  All right, guys, on that note, Brian, thanks for coming on,
• 1:27:46
  man. I actually, I was gonna plug
• 1:27:49
  your Twitter, but let's just do this guys.
• 1:27:51
  Go to the Orange Pill app, you know, scan the QR code from
• 1:27:55
  earlier or go to your whatever App Store you have and message
• 1:28:00
  Brian through the orange Pill app to get in touch.
• 1:28:03
  That's the best way to get in touch with Brian.
• 1:28:05
  But hey, Brian, if you want to plug your your socials and all
• 1:28:07
  that stuff as well, that's that's more than OK.
• 1:28:09
  Just Brian them in on Twitter. If you want to reach out to me
• 1:28:11
  there, I'm gonna get you plugged into orange pill app.
• 1:28:13
  Guys, we're going to set history today in two hours, 2 hours from
• 1:28:17
  now. We're going to set the new
• 1:28:19
  milestone and and hopefully someday that'll get broken
• 1:28:22
  again. But the history books will
• 1:28:23
  record today. And you can either be just
• 1:28:27
  sitting doing whatever. You can be watching Netflix,
• 1:28:30
  whatever, or you can be making Bitcoin history.
• 1:28:33
  You can have your own Bitcoin history story to tell your kids.
• 1:28:37
  There's going to be that meme of grandpa, what were you doing on
• 1:28:41
  April 25th at 1:00 PM Pacific Time?
• 1:28:44
  Oh, I was participating in the world's most amazing mass ZAP
• 1:28:49
  that the world had ever seen. And then the the kids going to
• 1:28:52
  say freaking legend. All right, that's going to be
• 1:28:55
  you. Be a freaking legend.
• 1:28:57
  Let's go. Yeah, Netflix is not an excuse.
• 1:28:59
  You get Netflix and Orange Pill ZAP at the same time, so you
• 1:29:03
  know you're going to be a part of this.
• 1:29:06
  Yeah, we're we're like the the Netflix Maxis are like how dare
• 1:29:10
  you? How?
• 1:29:11
  Dare you shit on Netflix. I didn't want to do anything
• 1:29:14
  later. Oh man, Brian, thanks so much
• 1:29:16
  for coming on today. Here, let me pull you off the
• 1:29:18
  screen and and hang back for a little bit so we can chat after
• 1:29:21
  the show. The beautiful and very toxic and
• 1:29:25
  extremist Sophie AKA Internet Sophie AKA the better half of
• 1:29:29
  Nico. Thank you for coming on the
• 1:29:31
  show. She'll be on the show more
• 1:29:33
  often. You want to say anything?
• 1:29:35
  Last word self or let's just sign off for Friday.
• 1:29:37
  It's Friday. Let get, let me get out of here.
• 1:29:39
  Let me get out of here. No, I'm just kidding.
• 1:29:42
  Buy Bitcoin and the Fed and at the IRS.
• 1:29:47
  Hey, all right, all right, we'll give it some more.
• 1:29:48
  All right, all right, hang out. Let me wrap up today's show.
• 1:29:52
  All right, guys, this was the show for April 25th, I believe
• 1:29:55
  is this is episode 1231. Wow, so many episodes.
• 1:29:59
  Anyways, have a good weekend. We love you guys.
• 1:30:02
  We will be back on Monday, I'm pretty sure.
• 1:30:05
  I I'm actually going to force and make sure that Nico comes
• 1:30:07
  back because your, your, your boy.
• 1:30:10
  Your boy's cortisol levels were pretty high today.
• 1:30:13
  Trying to scramble to make this work.
• 1:30:14
  I thought he was coming back too, guys.
• 1:30:16
  Anyways, it's your boy Opti. I will see you on Monday.
• 1:30:18
  Have a good weekend. Get outside, call your loved
• 1:30:21
  ones, eat some good food, get a workout in, touch some grass,
• 1:30:25
  all that. Good thing we'll see you on the
• 1:30:27
  other side. Today's episode was brought to
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• 1:30:34
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