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Epic show down! Male feminists vs Female anti-feminists! | Maintaining Frame 46 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
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  I'm here with Allison and this is maintaining frame number forty six. Epic showdown
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  Male feminists versus female anti feminists. Excellent. Yeah, so you know it's
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  it's another one of these videos where they have like for people from one side
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  of the aisle for people from the other side of the aisle. They ask
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  them questions. They ask people to step forward if they agree with the statement,
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  and you know, stay and not step forward if they disagree. Then
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  the people who agree with the statement will come to the front and they'll talk
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  about it amongst each other, and then they'll bring out the others and they'll
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  have like a discussion. So that that's We've done this a couple of times.
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  I have to say that I like the Jubilee is doing this because it
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  seems like they're at least giving like some air to you know, like the
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  other side. I guess, um, I'm sure that they still have a
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  bias. I'm not claiming they don't, but it doesn't matter. They're doing
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  this, so this is cool. So anyway, so today's show I think
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  is particularly interesting. An interesting choice they made and I'm gonna put it up
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  on myself screen here what what? Oh? I didn't, I didn't.
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  I don't have the whole screen, but it's okay. So basically, on
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  one side you have male feminists and on the other side you have female anti
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  feminists. And that's kind of I think that's interesting because, um, you
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  know, will will the behavior of male feminists be affected, will the any
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  of the sort of like you know, internal biases or female feminists or female
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  anti feminists come out? So you know, it's it's worth it's worth checking
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  out. Um, And we're gonna get into it. But first before we
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  Okay, So before we get into the video, I do have a
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  super chow that came yesterday, like you know, at the end of the
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  show. I guess Hannah missed it, so I'm gonna go ahead and read
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  it out now. I'm sorry. I wasn't involved in that show the next
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  talk actually, so well it might get buried though, because we're probably gonna
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  get more super chows between now and next Thursday. Okay, so I'll just
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  read it now, so at least Meredith Ge knows and and I could tell
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  Hannah to maybe read it again and respond to it. Um. So Meredith
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  GI gives us five bucks and says, hpr talk to fifty seven. Thanks
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  for the conversation. I've been at office jobs for over twenty years, and
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  I have found that trashing the bathroom has become an increasing problem in the last
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  ten years. Wasn't a problem when I got out of college. As a
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  number of women increased, bathroom cleanliness decreased well I thought at first, I
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  thought marriage was making a confession to trashing bathrooms, and then it got worse.
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  But I guess she's talking about women, um in bathrooms, so that
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  that was basically it. Thank you, Meredith. I think it's true.
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  I used to be a bus boy and so I used to clean the bathrooms
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  at the end of the day, and the women's bathroom was notoriously bad.
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  I couldn't understand it, but it definitely breaks that myth of you know,
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  women being like super clean. Um. Okay, so now I'm gonna share
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  my screen with Alison and we will hopefully you should be able to hear the
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  audio from this too. Um, we shall find out. Yeah, let's
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  check because I made some I made some changes and I think everything works now,
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  including my U soundboard effects. So joined the call. What does it
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  work better? Well? Yeah, well, firstly it works, which is
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  you know, because like I was having serious problems trying to like get the
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  sounds to play in discord as well as for the audience. But I found
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  a little program that lets me do that, so you know, it's not
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  an issue. But anyway, so did you join my life thing? Yes,
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  I am in here all right, let's find out. Okay, so
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  let's find out. So this first question or this statement, agree or disagree,
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  and you guys let us know what you guys think in the comments.
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  Women have more privileges today than men. And this is like they're going to
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  step forward if they agree and stay back if they disagree. Okay, here
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  we go. Women have more privileges today than men. I went back and
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  forth on this one thinking about the difference between more and different. I think
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  women have distinctly different privileges than men have. But with this new feminist movement
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  that is arising more of the third fourth wave, we are finding I think
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  that women are placed and pedestalized above men. All right, I'm pausing it
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  there. Just for the banana, you might see a lot of cleavage.
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  Oh the woman in red. I know it sounds shallow, but that she
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  is a character, Alison, that she was stacked. She looks like a
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  drawing of a woman. Yeah, she looks like Jessica Rabbits except brunette.
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  Yeah, I don't. Somebody's asking about chroma key issues. No, no,
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  no, it's not a mistake. I'm altering the color a little bit
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  to give us that extra bit of protection against copyright claims and things like that.
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  So if it looks different, I could also flip it. I could,
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  you know, add more, but I'm just doing that for now.
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  So I just changed the color a little bit. It's not supposed to be
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  this red, but that's what I did. So anyway, Okay, women
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  were always pedestalized, like this is the this is well, I mean she
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  said that, you know, as a result of this new feminist wave.
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  No, women always occupied the positions where they had the most consistent resources and
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  they were the safest, because that is the wind condition for a society.
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  Yeah, you know, to make sure that the people who are producing the
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  kids are safe and fed so that they can produce kids. Like throughout most
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  of human history, we didn't have the sheer amount of surplus that the industrial
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  revolution has given us, so we didn't we were much closer to the edge
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  of survival. So it meant a lot more to make sure that women were
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  taken care of, to make sure that we were able to survive. Okay,
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  So now women may have been restricted to the places that were more safe
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  and provided for, but that was like if you if you look at the
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  full scope of things, if women wanted to take on the male role,
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  the rate of death in many cases would have increased. Well if, for
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  example, if women in the Third World today took on the male role.
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  In the Third World, there are three three times as many women dying,
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  three to four times as many women dying in in Um, the Middle East,
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  in you know, South Asia, you know in Africa, if they
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  suddenly became men, and that was probably the case throughout most of human history.
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  While it was the case throughout most of humans, if women took on
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  the male role, they would be dying at the same rate as men.
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  And you can't afford that because our reproduction is so difficult. People don't realize
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  that, but we have one of the most bizarre reproductive cycles of any mammal
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  on the planet. It is founding that we have become so populous, and
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  the reason why we've become so populous is quite possibly because women were placed in
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  a position where they were getting more consistent resources and they were safer. Yeah.
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  Absolutely, so, It's like that's that's been the thing throughout all of
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  human history and now in our day and age, where we live in a
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  world of absolute plenty, it's warm. We have consistent little little pods that
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  maintain a consistent, perfect temperature throughout the year. We have running water,
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  we have electricity, which is a very is actually a very non toxic way
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  of heating a house like soit can be very damaging. You know. We
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  have these the situation that we're very, very comfortable, very materially comfortable,
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  and now that we have all of these material comforts and we're not constantly struggling
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  against the elements to survive, the new way of pedestalizing women is, of
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  course, to restructure society for their participation. Yep. And that's what we
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  have embarked on. Whether or not it's going to be successful, I'm guessing
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  we'll find out, um, but it's become We've we've replaced material resources with
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  social resources, and it's some weird sense of psychological resources. But anyway,
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  that's what I had to see, all right. Uh yeah, that's all
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  I got to say about that. Let us know what you guys think.
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  Let's move on. So women have what are what are? Okay, here's
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  the thing she so, uh I forget her name, Amani or something.
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  I'm sorry, but the black woman on the far left, she is she
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  worked from the Daily Wire that's where I've seen her. She's also appeared on
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  Doctor Phil and she says that men and women have different privileges. It's not
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  that women are more privileged. Um, what do you think about that,
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  Alison? Well, I think she ultimately did conclude that women are more privileged.
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  Yeah, so it's started off as it's different. I don't know what
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  male privilege is. Okay, let me let me put it this way.
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  So when in this entire situation is constructed where women are put in the most
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  provided for and protected place, men would take a positive identity for providing that
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  to women, that I guess is male privilege to be happy to provide stuff
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  for women. Yeah, it's you know, the happiness, the contentment that
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  comes from being able to provide for women. I guess the whole idea is
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  that with women can provide for themselves, they'll get that sense of contentment.
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  And yet that's not the way it's played out. Different I really don't.
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  I think that the whole concept of privilege for men is bit odd because literally
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  men are the ones who are used to maintain the structures that protect and provide
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  for women. Yeah, so they will be the ones that are sacrificed.
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  They will be the ones who are starved in the case where there's an emergency
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  or a famine. You know, they are the ones who are gonna be
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  thrown out on the street if this family can't feed them. I don't like
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  the only privilege I guess they get is in previous eras they had more freedoms
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  in law. But at the same time they still all of those freedoms and
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  supposal controls came with caveats that actually made them not great at all. Okay,
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  so it never seemed to be like society. It's like, I've never
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  seen evidence of a society that privileged men over women because it just liked men
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  more. All I've ever seen is a society that said men have to take
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  responsibility for women in X, Y, and Z ways. We're going to
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  give them the authority to do so, but at the same time, if
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  they fail, we are going to slam them so hard they won't know what
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  hit them, you know. So it's like, you have this responsibility,
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  guys, but you are one obligated to maintain it and if you don't,
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  you go to jail. Yep. It's like, you know, that's that's
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  not a privilege. I don't see anything in history that really shows any male
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  privilege period in the context of what feminists describe, like, every time you
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  see any kind of sort of authority that men have over women, it's paired
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  with an expectation of taking responsibility for a baseline level of responsibility. And if
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  men don't uphold that baseline level of responsibility for women, they go to jail.
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  So, for example, men had to sign for their wives credit cards,
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  but they are also legally obligated to pay off her debts. Is that
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  a privilege? Is a privilege to and froom, I should just look at
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  the opposite measure. Men could get a credit card in their own name,
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  but they didn't have anybody who would be expected to pay off their debt.
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  Is that a privilege? Really? You know, because they were expected,
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  like they could hold men accountable for their debt. So men could have take
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  debt, but since the only person they could hold accountable for a woman's debt
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  was her husband or a male relative, they had to sign off. It's
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  as simple as that. It's like, that's not a privilege, that's just
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  an asymmetrical responsibility. Yep, Okay, it's true, all right, let's
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  keep going a lot of ways. There's affirmative action hiring in scholarships where women,
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  sometimes even regardless of academic standing or achievement, are prioritized above men.
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  But men also have different privileges that they get to access. I struggle to
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  say more, but I think I do agree with the feminist movie. That's
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  true. Women get preferential treatment in the workplace, in college applications. I
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  mean, we've talked about that, so I'm glad that she's at least pointing
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  it out. Can she identify any male privilege whatsoever. Well, that's just
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  that. That's why I said, I'm asking, like, you know,
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  because there is this, but there is this assumption even amongst mine. It's
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  obvious, but this is an assumption even amongst people who are non feminist,
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  anti feminist, conservative, whatever it is, that you know, men do
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  have something. They have some kind of privilege and and sometimes that's like CEOs
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  and you know, president of the United States or prime minister. But that's
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  that's only reserved for a very small percentage of men. And they don't look
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  at the homeless and there men. Yeah, it's not because they're men.
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  It may be because you come from more wealthy families. Yeah, it's because
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  they're connected. There are some then, who managed to work their ways their
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  way out less now, I mean, the advent of all of this woke
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  stuff has made class has almost entrenched class differentials. But um, but you
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  know that's that's not men. Aren't CEO is because they're men? Yeah,
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  I wish that were true. I would just go be a CEO. Yeah,
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  a man. I don't even think that being a man affords a man
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  like that doesn't afford an individual man a greater likelihood of being a CEO versus
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  a garbage collector. I mean, do you ever think about that? A
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  long time ago, I looked at the stats. For every one male CEO,
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  there's something like, I think hundreds of male garbage collectors or the equivalent
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  like thousand. Yeah, and every one female CEO, well no, yeah,
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  for every one female CEO, there's almost one garbage collector female garbage collector
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  like that, the ratio is much more like one to twenty, Like the
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  ratio for men is one to a thousand. So a man is far more
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  likely to end up in the worst jobs in society and see a woman is
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  far more likely is almost as likely to end up as a CEO as in
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  the Worst Jobs. Think about that and then we turn around and say,
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  wow, man have privilege? Do they at all? Yeah? Yeah?
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  Really, I would say that garbage collectors make a lot of money, so
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  you know, it's it's not a very dangerous job, yeah, or dangerous
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  like yeah, like crab fisherman or whatever. Yeah, they make money,
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  but it's a dangerous, uncomfortable job, and it's not glamorous. It's not
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  glamorous. And the point is that let's say you were you're at the start
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  of a right and you're part of a group that one, uh, you
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  know, twenty of you will end up I don't know, cleaning sewers and
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  one of you will be the boss. Or you could go into a group
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  or run the race where a thousand of you will end up cleaning sewers and
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  one of you will be the boss. Which would you which group would you
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  rather be in? There's your answer for male privilege. By the way,
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  there's your answer, which would you rather be part of the group with a
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  a one and twenty chance of being a CEO? Or a group with a
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  one and a thousand versus the worst jobs? Okay, yeah, Okay,
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  let's keep going. You are born into this life with a vagina, you
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  innarrantly have ten times more privilege than a man. From the time they are
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  little, girls are always like doted on and you're so pretty and qute.
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  Three coddles. They're coddle right as they should be. You know, we
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  want that feminine nurturing energy in them. Can kind of be it feels like
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  she's buffed. She has, you know, like um, buffed her her
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  breasts to a shine. Yeah, no, definitely, yeah, No,
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  she's uh this this woman is very strange, Like I mean that she's super
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  spiritual and WOI that's why she has like a third eye and um, just
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  just talking. She always talks about like masculine and feminine energy like it's just
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  it's it's it's kind of cringe. And she's dressed like one of the wicked
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  step sisters. Like yeah, I mean, I guess I get where she's
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  coming from, and I appreciate her uh sympathy or empathy for men. But
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  yeah, but then again she does say some shit that a little later that's
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  kind of like what are you talking about? But anyway, woman and have
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  a hot body and be a millionaire on Only Fans. Men don't have that
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  privilege. Now, men don't have to like work to get a guy.
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  They're just hot and then they get guys come to them and spend their resources
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  on them. A man has to prove himself, he has to build a
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  body, he has to make money, he has to build influence, he
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  has to become a protector or provider women. I'm pausing it there just again,
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  um for the for the banana. I do want to say, though,
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  Only Fans is not the cash cow that everyone makes it out to be.
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  And we're going to talk about that on the news show on Tuesday.
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  That really yeah only Okay. So the thing is is that there are there
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  are women who who make like shit tons of money on Only Fans, but
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  they're like a very small percentage, and most of the women on there,
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  they they make minimum wage. So um that that is something that U There
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  is an article about it. I thought it was pretty interesting. So okay,
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  anyway, let's keep going just have that naturally by just having a vaginas
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  m It's frustrating because the feminist movement has been all about women acting like they
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  don't have rights and acting like they have it pretty hard in the modern day
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  world. I can't think of a single thing that I don't have that a
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  guy has, or I would say the way thing I would say is the
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  safe all right, just pausing it there again, Yeah, you don't have
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  that either, like men don't have that either. Yeah, I know this
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  is where this is where she goes off the rails for me, basically,
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  this is the thing that it always comes down to. It's not about whether
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  or not women are actually less safe. It's about whether or not they feel
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  less safe. And women always feel unsafe, even though they're more safe than
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  most men, who generally, you know, don't talk about like how unsafe
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  they are. But we already know that men are more likely to be victims
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  than women. It's not here's the problem. Men naturally have a higher risk
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  tolerance. Yeah, well, they're naturally going to feel safer in situations that
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  hey, maybe they shouldn't feel safer. Yeah. You get a young man
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  and shove a gun in his hat, in his hands and put him in
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  a trench, and he thinks he's going to survive. You know, the
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  risk assessment, of course, you know the first firefight that goes out the
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  window. But the risk assessment for men is different. So you can't look
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  at how women feel about their safety in order to determine how safe they are.
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  And women are very safe, much safer than men. They're safer from
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  almost everything, Like they're safer, And honestly, I think if we had,
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  like if we had stats from researchers that were neutral, I think we'd
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  find that men are more likely to be victims of domestic violence, They're more
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  likely to be victims of rape, They're definitely more likely to be victims of
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  strange forms of stranger violence like mugging and carjackings and other things like that in
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  assaults. So we're gonna find that and are vastly more in danger than women,
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  and that the real difference is is biological. You know, you could
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  put men, you know, in a shark tank and they're like, yeah,
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  this is fine. You put women just you know, you ten feet
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  in front of the glass viewing of the of you know, like you know
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  where you can see through into the sharks tank. You put them a woman
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  there, and she's gonna be freaking out. The sharks are gonna get me
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  just because of the biology. Just because men, you know, they don't
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  perceive risk in the same way women do, and and it doesn't. It
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  actually really is harmful to women to constantly live up to them about their level
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  of safety, which is what feminists do, it's what what media does.
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  Because you're taking somebody who's naturally sort of fearful and you're just being like,
• 25:51
  yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right. Yeah, there is there is
• 25:56
  a monster that lives under your floorboards that's gonna seep out and do the worst
• 26:00
  possible things to you at any moment. He really should be afraid. You
• 26:04
  really should have a phobia. You know, you really should live in terror.
• 26:08
  That's what this, that's what's abusive. Mm hmmm, it's true.
• 26:15
  All right. Uh So the things about Tangled because that was the dynamic with
• 26:18
  Mother gothel Oh yeah, yeah, it was so good. Did you know
• 26:23
  that? Um? I mean for a Disney movie, I think it was
• 26:26
  probably the last the last good one it was I would find a good period
• 26:33
  because it put it he had a send up of a lot of the stereotypes
• 26:36
  about men and women. And yeah, but yeah, go say what were
• 26:40
  you going to say? Uh? Well, I was going to point out
• 26:41
  that a lot of the people who used to work at Disney that were involved
• 26:45
  with Tangled, they left and they started like, uh, they they're joining
• 26:49
  like an independent project that doing an adaptation of David and Goliath. Um,
• 26:55
  it looks it looks really good, like I saw like a little teaser thing
• 26:57
  they put out and it's being crowdfunded, but it looks really good, like
• 27:03
  I thought, you know, that's a good story. If you're gonna adapt
• 27:06
  something from the Bible, I think David and Goliath is a good start.
• 27:07
  So anyway, I might have to do some arm twisting because nobody put anything
• 27:12
  through. Oh no, so once again to make sure that we can continue
• 27:18
  to do this show, and I think that's really important. I really appreciate
• 27:22
  how much you guys extend yourself to make sure that the show happens each month.
• 27:27
  Of course, you still like, we still have to ask and we
• 27:30
  still have to get this fund's in to be able to continue this show.
• 27:36
  These subjects are not easy to talk about, and a lot of people just
• 27:41
  don't because and this is something that I have noticed. I've noticed that a
• 27:45
  lot of channels that get really big identify an enemy and they just just return
• 27:52
  everything down to that enemy. Not a behavior that we all engage in.
• 27:56
  Because I think what we do here is we talk about behaviors. I point
• 28:02
  out that it's not just feminists to engage in these behaviors. Conservatives also do
• 28:06
  it. Um But this this dismissal of men, and this constant obsession about
• 28:12
  women and women having it worse with everything, that's a behavior. That's what
• 28:18
  we call out. I've noticed that the things that get really big identify a
• 28:22
  enemy and then just go back over and over and over and over and over
• 28:26
  again on that enemy. And I don't think that we do that. But
• 28:29
  because of that, what we talk about I think is less as less.
• 28:36
  I want to say the word compelling, but it's just something that people that
• 28:38
  doesn't necessarily resonate with as many people. But I honestly believe that it's the
• 28:44
  one thing that can improve society and make make our world a much better place
• 28:51
  to live in. So simply said, compassion for men. And it's also
• 28:56
  something that I think that we're we're well overdue for starting too to develop,
• 29:02
  and I think it's already starting to bite us in the ass. But anyway,
• 29:06
  my overall point is we don't exist unless you take the effort to go
• 29:11
  to feed the Badger dot com slash support and put whatever you're able to do
• 29:15
  in the hat and make sure that we're able to continue this work, which
• 29:19
  I think it's unique. I think it's uniquely valuable. It's something that I
• 29:23
  don't see a hell of a lot of people doing. Yeah, once again
• 29:27
  and again, thank you all for your support every month. It's amazing.
• 29:33
  And please let's continue because you know we're moving into year ten. I don't
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  want to stop now, So feed the Badger dot com slash slash support please
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  just five bucks. Just put my mind at ease. Then all right,
• 29:45
  we're screaming into the void. Anyway, let's let's let's take up. I
• 29:49
  got a superchat Jim mcl I'm sorry if I'm supposed to pronounce that gave us
• 29:56
  twenty dollars and didn't say anything, just gave us twenty dollars. So thank
• 30:00
  you Jim for that. Really appreciate it. But maybe, um, you
• 30:06
  know, if you wanted to say something to go along with it, send
• 30:08
  us a message and tag at badge of livestream so I don't miss it.
• 30:11
  Wow, yeah, I know, right, So thank you so much.
• 30:15
  All right, let's continue. Safety thing. That's the only thing that I
• 30:19
  would say is that women are disadvantaged from buying nature. Women are not as
• 30:25
  physically struting. You're physically strong, but as physically strong, and men just
• 30:30
  are. And if you're walking down a dark alley as a woman, they're
• 30:32
  you're going to feel some type of ways sometimes right there. Well, like
• 30:37
  I said, like, well, Alice's already explained it. It's not that
• 30:40
  men aren't in danger. It's not like they're just gonna strong their way out
• 30:44
  of a mugging or a murder. Um, it's because men are more like,
• 30:52
  um, well, they're less risk averse. I just put it that
• 30:53
  way. That's all. This is why. And the thing is is that
• 30:57
  like just why I always say, you know, um, just because women
• 31:00
  are more afraid of um, you know, of being attacked or of experiencing
• 31:07
  violence or whatever, doesn't mean that they're actually in more danger. And we
• 31:11
  can't seem to easily parse those things. So there you go. I'm going
• 31:18
  to talk a little bit more about like the judicial system when it comes to
• 31:23
  let's say, domestic dispute. If a woman calls the police, they automatically
• 31:27
  show up arrest the man. This the Duluth model. I think it's how
• 31:30
  you pronounce it, and that's already in place. It's not necessarily like a
• 31:34
  right or anything, but it's certainly in all of the police departments. All
• 31:41
  right, So, uh, she meant this. This woman I think is
• 31:44
  my favorite of the of all of them, although I don't know that she's
• 31:49
  like, you know, truly based yet, but mentioning the LUs model is
• 31:55
  a good is a good start. DODLUS model has been around for do you
• 32:00
  know how long, Allison? It's it's been around for a long time.
• 32:02
  Um, it's been around since uh, definitely the seventies, I would imagine.
• 32:08
  Yeah, right, is there something wrong with the project at all?
• 32:13
  Because um, it's still nobody has put anything through. Um, and that's
• 32:19
  really unusual. So if you're giving the project, do you mean like the
• 32:22
  fundraiser. Yeah, sometimes I make a mistake and then people aren't able to
• 32:27
  put anything through. So it would uh, if anybody has been trying,
• 32:30
  just give us a message. All right, let us know if you've been
• 32:34
  trying. Okay, let's keep going. Iron Maiden gave us five dollars and
• 32:40
  says I wish Karen and Allison were on that panel. I mean it's not
• 32:47
  First of all, we're really kind of low profile. I think it would
• 32:51
  be great too. But the other thing is is that I don't think they
• 32:54
  want people like Karen and Allison on there because the truth is is that,
• 33:00
  um, I don't think they're ready because it's gonna be like the thing is,
• 33:06
  okay, I think that the the perspective that Alton and Karen come at
• 33:12
  come from, and that we all share here at HBr is it's just like
• 33:16
  Alice said, it's unique. It's not it's not um, you know,
• 33:20
  a kind of let's go back to the status quo or you know, which
• 33:24
  is what a lot of like conservatives, you know, usually argue for,
• 33:28
  Let's just go back to to second way feminism, right, or let's um,
• 33:31
  you know, uh, let's demand these other things from men instead of
• 33:36
  like you know, I don't know, eliminating their masculinity. That's that's just
• 33:40
  not like that's not an option because it's it's kind of how we got to
• 33:45
  this point. So you know that that's something that they're not ready for.
• 33:49
  So if you like got on a panel with other let's say, let's say
• 33:52
  you were on a panel of anti feminists or however they want to categorize it,
• 33:55
  um, Alison's gonna end up fighting with her own side as well as
• 34:01
  the other side, because they're all going to be like, but wait a
• 34:04
  minute, I like the privileges that I get, you know, so I
• 34:09
  don't know. I don't think it's going to It probably won't happen for that
• 34:14
  reason. And then there's the travel I don't know, like Alson's still banned
• 34:17
  for like the next year, and then I think she'll be good to go,
• 34:21
  like in twenty twenty four. You should be like, I don't think
• 34:24
  I can travel for anything business related though, I'll get hit by the the
• 34:31
  the border guards. Again. Yeah, maybe, but it's coming up.
• 34:36
  And when it does, then you know, maybe Lindsey and I will go
• 34:38
  over and visit you. So all right, But anyway, let's continue.
• 34:45
  Is if feminism is all about equality, why would you automatically arrest him man
• 34:49
  when they arrest him his name is in the newspaper automatically. The fact that
• 34:52
  a woman can say Jane Doe and she doesn't have to put her name out
• 34:54
  there. What skin in the game is there? And there's so many instances
• 34:59
  of that I know personally who have had domestic violence within the relationship with children
• 35:02
  involve unfortunately, and the you know, the woman attacked the man in front
• 35:06
  of the child and he's still I know, two instances personally. All right
• 35:09
  again, just pausing for the banana. They're talking about domestic violence. Yeah,
• 35:15
  I really am curious what the feminist women are going to come back with,
• 35:19
  because man, yeah, this is I mean, this is the shallow
• 35:22
  end of the pool, but it's pretty devastating. Like, to be honest,
• 35:25
  I think that it's sort of like expecting the average person to really understand
• 35:30
  calculus, for them to really understand where me and Karen are coming from,
• 35:35
  or Hannah to a degree. Maybe Hannah's more accessible. I don't know,
• 35:39
  She's certainly more clear, I think, especially me. I mean, I
• 35:44
  don't really expect people to understand me. I try my hardest, and I'm
• 35:50
  not trying to sound like I'm not like, I'm not trying to be intellectual.
• 35:54
  You know, It's just that the things that I see are so rarefy
• 36:00
  that it's difficult to bring them to the point where it starts to be you
• 36:06
  can contend with it, you get you get what I'm talking about, Brian,
• 36:10
  Yeah, I do. I do. I mean I think that this
• 36:14
  audience gets it. Though I think that's like if they if they didn't,
• 36:17
  I don't think they just keep coming back. But the ideas that we talk
• 36:22
  about, like there's this perception that I guess we're a misogynist, But what
• 36:25
  I think the actual thing is is that we're able to perceive the world without
• 36:30
  the necessity of the women is wonderful effect. Yeah, either we power through
• 36:37
  it rationally or we just don't really have it and we can see, you
• 36:42
  know, how women's agency shapes their lives and the world around us. Yeah,
• 36:46
  And but the only thing is is that I don't think people who do
• 36:52
  perceive the women like people who are operating out of the women is wonderful effect.
• 36:58
  I don't think they necessary seahly care about women as people so much as
• 37:02
  women as symbols of something inside themselves. Yeah, because the thing is that
• 37:09
  if you're going to treat a woman who's a rat bastard the same as a
• 37:14
  woman who's a decent person, is that really fucking fair? Isn't that justice?
• 37:22
  Like just because they're women, you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 37:27
  I get it. So misogyny, I think, to me, misogyny is
• 37:32
  just seeing women as symbols of something that you need yourself, like just they
• 37:38
  don't even exist as people. They're just basically a boobies, you know,
• 37:43
  and a reward system. I mean to me, that is, um,
• 37:47
  that is misogyny, and yet that that idea that women like. And it's
• 37:53
  not even just like like a reward system. It's like the respect women thing.
• 37:58
  I'm like, well, what the fuck are you respect? If you
• 38:00
  respect women? Well, they want it, they want it's it's always demanded
• 38:05
  unconditionally, which respect has nothing to do with that, you know. And
• 38:10
  a picture, um, you know these are these are these two pictures are
• 38:14
  the same. You know, yeah that the meme you know, uh from
• 38:19
  I think it was Pam from the office. These two pictures are the same.
• 38:22
  Oh yeah, yeah yeah. The difference between these two pictures they're both
• 38:27
  Unlike that when I see people who are like, you should respect women,
• 38:30
  and then people who are like, uh, you know, I do things
• 38:34
  for boobies, you know, like I do things for women, you know,
• 38:37
  for women's to sexuality or to have access to It's like these are the
• 38:43
  same thing. They're the same exact thing. You are saying that women's value
• 38:49
  to me will always take precedence over what and who they are as moral individuals.
• 38:54
  Yeah, that is the misogyny. Yeah, okay, not recognizing women's
• 39:00
  actions and the consequences of the actions and their full spectrum as a moral agent,
• 39:06
  that is misogyny. What I do you know? Even if and then
• 39:09
  I get into these arguments like oh oh, and I'm like, why can't
• 39:14
  you blame women? Why can't you expect women it a responsibility? Why is
• 39:19
  that so? And I can feel it like it's this when you say things
• 39:21
  like, yeah, single moms are responsible for social ills through their choices and
• 39:28
  how to structure their lifestyle. You can't say that, even though it's statistically
• 39:31
  one hundred percent true and it's not been abandoning them. Many of them are
• 39:37
  choosing the lifestyle from the onset, or they're choosing men who are so obviously
• 39:44
  bad, or they're leaving perfectly good men because they get bored, you know,
• 39:51
  and we have to live with the consequences of their choices. And but
• 39:54
  no, you can't say that because that's misogyny. You can't you cannot say
• 39:59
  that wo women are doing something bad because that's misogyny. But if you cannot
• 40:04
  recognize women, do women do bad things? You aren't recognizing them as choosing
• 40:09
  good things either. Yeah, okay, sorry, no, it's okay.
• 40:15
  I just wanted to tell you that great Indoors in the chat said that he
• 40:21
  tried to make a donation and it got canceled for some reason. So maybe
• 40:25
  you need to look. And the Lost Room says the fundraiser shows one hundred
• 40:29
  and thirty dollars at the moment. I don't know if that was before or
• 40:31
  what. So maybe you should go take a look really quick and see that,
• 40:38
  you know, there aren't any issues because I think at least one person
• 40:42
  is trying to donate. Also, I just want to point out that Alison
• 40:47
  has not gone robotic the last two shows we've done. I don't know why,
• 40:52
  but I'm glad it's stream Labs. I think maybe there's something going on
• 40:57
  with obs. Yeah, and uh yeah, I've noticed that John Lynn was
• 41:01
  actually top pointing that out, and I think I think it is because of
• 41:05
  stream Labs for whatever reason. Well, I mean, you have to pay
• 41:09
  for it, but at least apparently it's better. You know, I don't
• 41:15
  know how to save my settings, but okay, yeah, I'll figure it
• 41:20
  out. Yeah, they can't be permanently like no, you never can save
• 41:25
  your settings. Um, looking here, I see that you attempted. Uh,
• 41:30
  great indoors. Um, it did actually show that it went through,
• 41:34
  but it hasn't gone through, so I mean it showed there's like this this
• 41:38
  mismatch between the fundraiser and the people putting things through on the back end.
• 41:44
  So sometimes if something fails, it'll still apply it because you know, way
• 41:47
  to be confusing, right, Um. But yeah, I just got rid
• 41:52
  of that, and uh, I'll take a look and see if there's a
• 41:58
  problem with that particular Okay, guy, did anyone else put anything through?
• 42:06
  Yes? Um, I'm just trying to trouble shoot that, right, okay,
• 42:12
  okay, So let me take a look here, all right, all
• 42:17
  right, okay, So looks looks fine so far from me. Um,
• 42:25
  maybe it was just the hiccup in the back. Try again, great indoors.
• 42:30
  All right, try again, great indoors. He's gonna try in a
• 42:32
  minute, okay. Um, And I would like to thank the lost room
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  the the progress of m indoors with the great endured in his attempts. All
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  right, appreciate it. Yeah, okay, let's continue. And he's still
• 43:19
  fighting to get the child backs. That's from the me too movement. Congratulations,
• 43:22
  you guys got that. It kind of invalidates the women who do come
• 43:24
  forward and who have faced rape and sexual assault and all of that, because
• 43:28
  then it kind of turned into a Twitter hashtags correct, where women were like,
• 43:31
  oh, you know what I'm want to do in links? This seems
• 43:34
  fun, like we're I think it's a mixed bag. I don't think the
• 43:36
  me too movement wasn't inherently harmful. It's the me too movement where you couple
• 43:38
  it, um I do. I think we already have something in place for
• 43:45
  that. It's called the cops. So I think that the me too hashtag
• 43:52
  is too exploitable and I think it does far more harm than good. And
• 43:57
  I don't think it's necessary because because it essentially is precedented on the idea that
• 44:07
  if women didn't have the me too hashtag they would have no recourse. That's
• 44:13
  ridiculous. There's human resources departments, there's police, there's bosses, there's all
• 44:17
  kinds of avenues that you have. And I think when you put it out
• 44:22
  there as a hashtag and everybody is just supposed to believe it, then that's
• 44:27
  how you get into essentially the only thing it can hope to do is expand
• 44:31
  on false allegations. So I mean I could because like if you were really
• 44:37
  harmed and you didn't go to the police and then ten years goes by,
• 44:43
  you know, that's kind of on you. I mean, our women adults
• 44:45
  are not so as mine feeling anyway, there was always a scam. Yeah,
• 44:52
  And like I think you put it best, it just expands the ability
• 44:57
  to make false accusations. Yeah, I don't think And if you and any
• 45:01
  way care about due process for men, you're not going to promote these kinds
• 45:06
  of extragicial punishments with no due process. Ye like women lie, yep.
• 45:15
  If men had the ability to do this, when feminists would be out there
• 45:19
  saying that that there should be bodies protecting women from men's false accusations, you
• 45:27
  get what I'm saying, Like, if men could make these accusations in public
• 45:30
  and get them to stick. Feminists would say that there should be a government
• 45:35
  organization to prevent these men's accusations and to punish them on half of women.
• 45:40
  Yeah, but we don't have that. Um I do have something. We
• 45:46
  got a one hundred dollars super chat Thank you you are anonymous? Yeah,
• 45:51
  just no, Yes, that's awesome. I don't know if that was the
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  Great Indoor Outdoors or the Great Indoors. Okay, and then we got one
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  hundred dollars through the fundraiser from a better straw man, So thank you,
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  a better straw man. Straw man, right, I think I think the
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  Great Indoors hasn't put it through, But please tell me if maybe that was
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  your super Chow. I don't think that's you. I'm pretty sure that is
• 46:25
  not your name, but maybe you are hiding under the name of a different
• 46:30
  Dutchman, hiding under an alias, hiding under an alias. Yeah, flying
• 46:35
  Dutchman. M let me see what's going on here? Something is coming through.
• 46:42
  This is so very mysterious. Ah, here we go, the Great
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  Indoors. You finally got that hundred bucks through nice bit of pushing into the
• 46:52
  the woo hoole what I'm sorry, I said it took a bit of pushing
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  to get it into the woo hole. Oh oh, I see that's correct.
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  Well, commerce is the is the commerce plug it. So thank you
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  Very much appreciated. All right, all right, okay, let's keep
• 47:38
  going. So when she says when you couple it with like it with something
• 47:44
  like believe all women, that's when it becomes in the victimization of women who
• 47:47
  aren't really victims the promptiety. Women have more privileges. We have privileges simply
• 47:52
  ify virtue of being women. We have privileges with afirmative action. We have
• 47:53
  privileges in family court, and we have privileges as far as being believed and
• 47:57
  forgiven. It's a something that should be knowledge. That's all right. So
• 48:01
  that's her. Oh boy, what, oh boy? I'm I'm looking forward
• 48:07
  the feminists. Right here come the male feminists, the male femi. Old
• 48:09
  man, I'm gonna see like I think we're gonna see a lot of salt.
• 48:15
  Yeah, maybe I don't want to say it, but do you guys
• 48:17
  think there's gonna be some some chest beasting beating? Like well, this is
• 48:22
  the thing about male feminists that I noticed. So I did watch a lot
• 48:25
  of this video, not the whole thing. They don't get as you know,
• 48:30
  aggressive towards these women as they would if there were men. Because I
• 48:36
  think when it come when it's men against when it's men facing down men,
• 48:39
  then the male feminists tend to be more like, you know, like uh,
• 48:45
  like gorillas, you know, like they beat their chests around them.
• 48:49
  But when they're facing women, I think they're confused because they're like, well,
• 48:52
  well, do we want to do we want to do this or you
• 48:57
  know like that was one of the most amusing observations, sort of amusing observations
• 49:06
  about the Jubilee male feminists versus male anti feminists, Like the male feminists were
• 49:13
  so like everything was dominance hierarchy, and which lobsters on top, and which
• 49:19
  one's got the most female friends, and who's the one whose virtues are entirely
• 49:25
  like created by his own manifested by his own individual will you know? And
• 49:31
  who? And who is the biggest guard dog of his women? That was
• 49:37
  the feminist side, and the male feminists were like, you know, I
• 49:39
  think men have problems. I like to make sure my male friends are taking
• 49:44
  care because we know, we gotta you know, we gotta cooperate and care
• 49:46
  about each other, and we have concerns. And then it's like, holy
• 49:52
  shit, if that isn't exactly what I talk about, That male feminism is
• 49:59
  really just an expression of the most aggressive, competitive, and jealous yeah,
• 50:10
  and lack of any kind of sense of male solidarity, concern for other men,
• 50:16
  cooperation with other men, Like they are the silver backs. Yeah,
• 50:22
  actually silver backs aren't that bad. I can't I'm failing for a male animal,
• 50:28
  like a male feminist. Yeahs, I don't want to really yeah yeah
• 50:35
  yeah they're like, well, yeah, I guess maybe or maybe a little
• 50:42
  less rape than Bobo's. Yeah. No hyenas, No, there's no mammal.
• 50:46
  That's like a male feminist, they are one. Like even male mammals
• 50:52
  when they fight, they tend to avoid to be being too aggressive. But
• 50:57
  in male feminist you really see the absolute worst of the aggressiveness of men towards
• 51:04
  each other. Yeah. It's yeah, like, like you said, there's
• 51:07
  the one feminist who's like, ah, all of my virtues have nothing to
• 51:12
  do with masculinity. They're all individual And you were like, yeah, that's
• 51:15
  a pretty Yeah you like women or you you want to take care of women,
• 51:19
  and I think that's a masculine thing. But that's a pretty low bar
• 51:22
  there. That's like almost every man. Yeah, it's it's like and it's,
• 51:28
  um, it's just funny to watch. Um it is. And so
• 51:34
  you got the male feminist who are super competitive. Of course, they're not
• 51:37
  going to be super competitive with the women's you know, they're coming over and
• 51:43
  they're you can probably hear in their thoughts because they're male mammals. They're they're
• 51:47
  thinking, well, what do I need to do? What plumage do I
• 51:51
  need to display to attract these females? You know? Yeah, anyway,
• 51:59
  Okay, so I got another super chow from packs Max for fifteen dollars and
• 52:04
  packs Max, who's watching us on Rumble right now, and I see you
• 52:07
  guys there, says Rumble still works horrible, but I'm battling through. I
• 52:12
  thought it was VPN, but no, maybe because I'm in Europe, you
• 52:16
  know, I'm still kind of working out some potential issues with the bit rate
• 52:22
  that's going out. So I know before we were experiencing like drops completely.
• 52:28
  But I think that, you know, because I figured out a solution,
• 52:32
  I can probably fix that and maybe it won't be an issue. I don't
• 52:37
  think it's too bad though. It seems to be going very smooth. But
• 52:43
  yeah, like before my computer ate its own asshole, it was like,
• 52:47
  you know, I had to turn off my firewall and then when I did,
• 52:51
  it was fine, And so I think that it's it's a filtration bit
• 52:58
  rate issue. Maybe gets jammed up, and maybe Rumble is worse than you
• 53:01
  Tube because it's like, you know, it's not a multi billion dollar corporation.
• 53:07
  So but thanks for watching us on Rumble. Let's see what kind of
• 53:13
  plumage the male feminists attempt to show here. Yeah, because it's difficult for
• 53:19
  them. You know, it's like you can see these peacocks waddling over but
• 53:22
  the p hens. They're they're a little different than the usual pea hen.
• 53:27
  Yeah, I'm not sure what kind of plumage to show, but let's see.
• 53:30
  Let's see what they Let's see. You can have the disagree step forward.
• 53:36
  I appreciated the distinction of more versus different privileges. You can't just use
• 53:39
  a broad brush and paint the entire debate and say, all right, well
• 53:43
  this is men have more than women. That's it. Like women that must
• 53:45
  inherently then have no privileges. That's that's not how it works. And that's
• 53:47
  where we start to get into the idea of the intersectionality, where wait,
• 53:52
  what what what the hell? Like that there was no at no point,
• 53:57
  well, I mean I would say that men have no privileges because I don't
• 54:02
  think that that's how society was arranged at any point. Like every single time
• 54:07
  I see something that people say, oh, that was a male privilege,
• 54:10
  when you look at both sides, No, it wasn't. It was the
• 54:15
  expectation that men take authority over women, but were held to a standard of
• 54:20
  responsibility that was not actually that beneficial to them. Yeah, unless you think
• 54:29
  it is beneficial to go to jail for someone else's debts or someone else's crimes,
• 54:36
  or you know, and then the other things like, oh, a
• 54:39
  man could beat his wife with blah blah. Well, first of all,
• 54:42
  no, but second of all, you know, even even in the feminist
• 54:49
  framework, a man could beat his wife with a with a stick no wider
• 54:52
  than his thumb. Well, a woman could beat her husband with a tree
• 54:55
  trunk if she so chose. Ye, there was no lead will control over
• 55:00
  her violence towards him. So what does that even mean anyway? Yeah,
• 55:07
  that's true. All right. So this this male feminist right here where I
• 55:10
  wanted to say, yeah, go ahead, trans man. What I wanted
• 55:15
  to say before I didn't get to this point is nowhere did anyone go to
• 55:20
  that extreme on this panel? I would have, but these women didn't.
• 55:24
  Yeah, no, that that's right. That's that's right. They didn't.
• 55:29
  Um, So all right, So this guy here with the red hair is
• 55:31
  going to go into intersectionality because, of course, where another woman who had
• 55:37
  a different experience, if it was a trans woman, if it was a
• 55:39
  woman of color, it was a woman who was including trans woman into feminism.
• 55:43
  And I think we definitely should I think we shouldn't at all. I
• 55:46
  think the trans woman should not be a part of the feminist movement because a
• 55:50
  man just because they you know, wake up and feel like they can be
• 55:52
  a woman one day could come in and then suddenly know what it's like to
• 55:54
  have a period or no, god, yeah slightly, it's suddenly like wow,
• 56:01
  bam, now we're talking about this. Yeah, well that you know.
• 56:06
  That's the thing though, when you bring internet intersectionality in, when we're
• 56:09
  trying to just talk about men, you basically, yeah, you do,
• 56:13
  you derail from the male conversation, right, So that's the primary purpose of
• 56:20
  intersectionality. It's to continue hide men suffering, perception, hide men suffering,
• 56:27
  and continue to maintain the role of men is invulnerable provider. That's it,
• 56:32
  Like, that's you know, because if you actually look honestly at all of
• 56:36
  this, every almost every yeah, every intersectional point, women have it worse
• 56:42
  than women. But because they have it worse than women, and we can't
• 56:45
  have that, we can't allow ourselves to perceive that, we deflect it onto
• 56:51
  the intersection of We deflected onto blackness, even though black men have significantly worse
• 56:58
  than black women. We deflected onto transness, even though those trans people who
• 57:04
  are perceived as men have it significantly worse than those trans people who are perceived
• 57:08
  as women. We deflected onto gayness, even though gay men have always been
• 57:15
  more stigmatized than than lesbians. Or we deflected onto poorness, even though poor
• 57:21
  men face considerably more disadvantages with no charities to their name than poor women.
• 57:29
  Yeah. I got into an argument with a feminist on Twitter and it was
• 57:32
  like he argued that poor women face maybe more, maybe equivalent challenges to poor
• 57:40
  men. I'm like, no, who do you think all the charities are
• 57:44
  for disenfranchised women? They're not for rich women. We don't create charities for
• 57:50
  socialites. We create charities for women living in poverty. We create charities for
• 57:55
  women who are minorities. Like, that's what the charities are for, But
• 58:00
  we don't have those charities or poor men. Okay, the social will isn't
• 58:07
  there to take care of poor men, and they're in such a bad shape.
• 58:09
  Even the mainstream media is starting to take note. But what my overall
• 58:14
  point is that you take the poor, you take out the man, and
• 58:22
  you say, no, it's the poverty. And then when you say the
• 58:23
  poverty, you can say, well, women in poverty must be worse off.
• 58:29
  Than men, even though it's patently false when you look at the statistics,
• 58:35
  well, women will live in poverty, men tend to die in poverty,
• 58:37
  so that can skew the statistics, by the way, But if you
• 58:39
  look at the statistics homelessness of extreme poverty, it's extremely male. You know.
• 58:45
  But by putting in that intersectionality, you deflect onto this one trait,
• 58:53
  and all of intersectionality is basically just that deflection. We're not going to look
• 58:59
  at how men are harmed. We're going to deflect it onto traits that men
• 59:02
  share with women, and then we're just going to just nuance and suddenly women
• 59:09
  are the most impressed by these things, even though statistically not. Yeah,
• 59:16
  okay, let me see, so any new thank yous to give? We've
• 59:22
  gone for an hour now, so uh no, okay, that's all right,
• 59:28
  okay, okay, I'm not sure, you know, I'm like,
• 59:32
  why do we have to go on this tangent like this particular individual, I
• 59:37
  mean, she's an anti feminist? What does she care about? What?
• 59:39
  Yeah? I know, I was thinking, like what why does she care?
• 59:43
  Like who gets to be a feminist and who doesn't if she's an anti
• 59:46
  feminist? Like don't you just want the whole finger away. But I think
• 59:50
  that she's like one of these you know, can we please have the status
• 59:53
  quo back, or my perception of the status quo, which is like,
• 59:58
  you know whatever before feminism went like quote off the rails end quote but yeah,
• 1:00:05
  sorry, like this is the this is the situation we're in because of
• 1:00:08
  people like you. You have basically let it, let it just get out
• 1:00:12
  of control, or at least where you draw the line, you know,
• 1:00:15
  is when men are affected to the point that you know, some of them
• 1:00:22
  were like, I think I want to live as a woman because I certainly
• 1:00:24
  don't want to be what I am because it's terrible. So I'm sorry,
• 1:00:29
  but you made your bed. Now you have to deal with it. You
• 1:00:32
  don't get to do that. Well, I mean, if you should have
• 1:00:36
  stood up for many years ago, yeah, stood up for many years ago.
• 1:00:39
  If she was a former feminist, then she supported all of the rhetoric
• 1:00:45
  that like who wants to live as a victim, you know, for trans
• 1:00:49
  men, and who wants to live and as own impressor for trans women?
• 1:00:52
  You know, nobody like people. It's more than just trans Like trans people
• 1:00:59
  are the ones with the guts to actually do this shit, you know,
• 1:01:01
  to go through this. There are a lot of young people who are living
• 1:01:06
  lives of absolute conflicted misery because of they can't feel any kind of comfort in
• 1:01:14
  their gender role, any kind of value. My voice meter Potato is trying
• 1:01:22
  to get me to register. Two seconds, one second, there we go.
• 1:01:28
  Okay, Alison, sorry about that voice Meter Potato. Did you hear
• 1:01:32
  me? Yeah? So, I well know. So I had voice Meter
• 1:01:37
  before, which is how I organized my audio, and I had paid for
• 1:01:40
  it, and you know, they gave me like a code to register it
• 1:01:45
  and all that. But when my computer imploded, I needed to like get
• 1:01:51
  all of my apps over again. And it's when I downloaded voice Meter Potato.
• 1:01:55
  It acts now it's telling me that I haven't registered, even though I
• 1:01:59
  did before. So I guess because it's another instance I have to pay again.
• 1:02:02
  So sorry about that. So, like right now I'm kind of using
• 1:02:06
  an unregistered version, which means that every so often they're gonna they're gonna ask
• 1:02:09
  me huh mee their message their customer service. That's not fair at all.
• 1:02:15
  Just I don't think it is. Yeah, I agree, don't. Yeah,
• 1:02:20
  they're usually like if they're a decent company, they'll be fair about that.
• 1:02:23
  Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. Okay. So there's you know,
• 1:02:27
  the trans people are just the ones with the guts to do something about
• 1:02:31
  it. There is a huge, huge iceberg under the surface of misery men
• 1:02:42
  and women, young men and women in particular, who take no value and
• 1:02:46
  who they are. You know, they have they women who think that who
• 1:02:52
  are biologically there's a component of them that most likely is drawn to being taken
• 1:02:59
  care of. I know this sounds horrible, but if you are part of
• 1:03:04
  a species in which the female needs to be taken care of, there's going
• 1:03:07
  to be an element of that in your psyche, and yeah, we should
• 1:03:12
  try to overcome it. But at the same time, there's there's probably always
• 1:03:15
  going to be some of that. And they're told that the very creatures that
• 1:03:21
  have coevolved with them to provide that care absolutely loathes them. And all of
• 1:03:25
  this is combining to make people miserable and be unhappy with being men and women
• 1:03:34
  and the trans it's just it's just the tip of the iceberg, and everybody's
• 1:03:37
  like fighting over the tip of the iceberg. And it's like what happens if
• 1:03:42
  you get rid of the tip of the iceberg, Well, the iceberg gets
• 1:03:45
  a bit lighter and more of it reveals itself, Like it doesn't do anything.
• 1:03:52
  You know, this is an expression of people's profound discomfort with their identities.
• 1:03:55
  Yeah, yeah, and a way to be I think I am at
• 1:04:00
  least in agreement with the fact that I don't think this needs to be a
• 1:04:06
  conversation about trans people, because I think that's a separate discussion. I think
• 1:04:14
  that when we're saying, you know, like we're talking about what men,
• 1:04:18
  whether or not men are less privileged or whatever, I think the trans thing
• 1:04:24
  just serves to, like I said before, it's a distraction. We can
• 1:04:29
  maybe do another thing on that and talk about it, but I just want
• 1:04:31
  to talk about men, darling. So yeah, you're right, I should
• 1:04:35
  shout up. Let's get through this, right, let's get through this.
• 1:04:39
  From men replacing women in sports to men replacing women on podcasts during Women's Month
• 1:04:45
  and when we're talking about women's health, or you've even got biological men who
• 1:04:48
  think they're women going to the White House speaking on behalf of all women.
• 1:04:53
  You know, a feminist, Yeah, well apparently you are a feminist.
• 1:04:58
  Yeah, well, I'm sure, no that's the Yeah. The thing is,
• 1:05:00
  I think they're all feminists to some degree. Was this the one you
• 1:05:03
  said was the best? Mmm? I thought that was wond not Bland on
• 1:05:11
  the on the right side. Okay, let's see brought up the domestic violence
• 1:05:15
  stuff and the Duluth model. The brunette is um um. I mean she's
• 1:05:20
  a normi feminist that thinks that she's not a feminist. So get and for
• 1:05:27
  you based on the prompt though, because you've lived in both experiences, at
• 1:05:30
  least socially, I'm curious when you transition to mail and people started perceiving you
• 1:05:32
  as male like most people did today, what privileges change for you or what
• 1:05:35
  did you see enter your life that you didn't have before? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:05:42
  you know, I'm expecting that ideologically possessed people to say, well,
• 1:05:46
  did you lived experience deviate from your understanding of God? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:05:51
  no, that's not You're not going to get an answer there. Let's hear
• 1:05:56
  what he is. It's a trap. Uh so that so the blonde is
• 1:06:02
  a trans man, which again, you know, I just I don't think
• 1:06:10
  that you're going to have like a really productive conversation unless you're just talking to
• 1:06:15
  biological men and biological women about this. I don't think that. I don't
• 1:06:19
  think he's perceived as a man outside of certain circles, so he doesn't have
• 1:06:25
  experience. Well, I mean, I think that he passes okay. But
• 1:06:30
  the thing is is that, like, I don't know, like this person
• 1:06:34
  is going to have not much to share in terms of their lived experience because
• 1:06:40
  they're not They weren't a man from like birth. So a lot of my
• 1:06:45
  beliefs in feminism do lie. It is because being out into the world as
• 1:06:49
  a gay woman was the way I was seeing men treated me definitely not nearly
• 1:06:54
  as well as they did. I was bullied in school. I had people
• 1:06:57
  call me slurs, and it seemed like it was because I was threatening to
• 1:07:00
  like the male structure that we are in where it's like male and female.
• 1:07:02
  Because I was a female who liked females, I was somehow infringing on that
• 1:07:05
  and so they didn't like me. All right, Um, I don't I'm
• 1:07:10
  pressing extra doubt, that's I'm because the thing is, um, well,
• 1:07:19
  I I don't know if like that's that person's experience, but from my my
• 1:07:29
  understanding is that gay men are far more like likely to you know, be
• 1:07:36
  bullied and beaten and you know all of that than lesbian women. I've never
• 1:07:44
  seen it. Never and I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I've never
• 1:07:47
  seen it. So I have my doubts about that. I think for the
• 1:07:51
  most part, the thing that lesbians have to fear the most are other lesbians
• 1:07:56
  when they're in relationships with them. Um, that's just me though, And
• 1:08:01
  um this I don't what did he say specifically? Again that he said that
• 1:08:05
  men treated him differently when he was as when he was a she lesbian woman,
• 1:08:13
  which again I've known lesbians, and I mean if by treating them differently,
• 1:08:17
  you mean you don't want to like go to bed with them, then
• 1:08:21
  yeah, But like in general, I just treated them like one of the
• 1:08:25
  guys. And I've known plenty. You know, I used to live in
• 1:08:29
  a gay neighborhood. And so how did the men treat him differently? He
• 1:08:33
  didn't say, He just said that they did. And again, how do
• 1:08:35
  you know, like, dude, you men treated you do? It wasn't
• 1:08:42
  that what she wanted? Yeah, I guess we are going to like,
• 1:08:46
  for the most part, the average person is going to treat a man differently
• 1:08:49
  than a woman or trans men differently than a woman. Yeah, I really
• 1:08:56
  doubt you've truly lost your female privileges. But at the end of the day,
• 1:09:00
  but there you go. Yeah, women do differently like they probably in
• 1:09:06
  a way. I mean, if I learned that they did lose privileges,
• 1:09:10
  that wouldn't be surprised by that either. You know. Um, are you
• 1:09:15
  guys able to hear the soundboard when I play a sound from it? I
• 1:09:20
  think you should, but I'm just making sure. Okay, you should just
• 1:09:24
  play a sound like be like, Okay, We're gonna play a test sound
• 1:09:26
  for you. I'm gonna play a test sound. Yeah, hold on a
• 1:09:29
  second, here we go. First, take a big step back, and
• 1:09:31
  literally fuck your own face. Wow. All right, yeah, I think
• 1:09:36
  it's going through. So okay, since we're since we're taking a bit of
• 1:09:42
  a break to see if you guys, um I've heard that sound. I'll
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• 1:10:05
  Yeah, it was like it's working. I just wanted to make sure.
• 1:10:09
  Um, okay, so I guess we can continue. Do you have any
• 1:10:13
  any anything else go through yet? No, That's why I was doing a
• 1:10:16
  little See. Okay, let's give us some more stuff that we need to
• 1:10:19
  thank you for, guys. Yeah, give us some give us a reason
• 1:10:23
  to appreciate. I can. I will play a new sound for the next
• 1:10:26
  person who donates. I have some new ones support. Yeah. Sorry,
• 1:10:32
  I want to say the D word. That's the D word. That yeah,
• 1:10:39
  okay, okay. Things change naturally when you socially transition and are perceived
• 1:10:43
  by the world in a different way. When I transitioned from being perceived as
• 1:10:46
  female to the world to just pretty much passing or blending full time as mail,
• 1:10:49
  was that I got a lot more respect from other other men. People
• 1:10:51
  listen to me and took me seriously in a social paths reading. Um,
• 1:10:56
  people aren't going to harass women who were around me if I'm walking with them
• 1:10:59
  at night, which is just a benefit I never thought about. Um.
• 1:11:02
  Yeah, I don't know, like, did you earn the respect, Like
• 1:11:05
  what do you mean by respect? And um, is it possible? Because
• 1:11:10
  here's something that I was just thinking about. Okay, So if you are
• 1:11:14
  using the word respect incorrectly and you know what you what you really mean is
• 1:11:19
  uh cordial or polite? Okay. Maybe men are more comfortable showing like that
• 1:11:29
  that that politeness and that that uh, you know, that sort of cordialness
• 1:11:32
  with other men because those men are not likely to accuse them of something,
• 1:11:36
  and they're less likely to do it with women. Like because I think that
• 1:11:41
  it's it does it damages the social you know, the socialization between men and
• 1:11:46
  women, because men will feel like they're being predatory if they greet a woman,
• 1:11:53
  for example, and the woman doesn't reciprocate, you know, like it
• 1:11:57
  remind did you see that you saw the video I said it to you of
• 1:11:59
  the woman in the parking lot she put a TikTok up where a man like
• 1:12:03
  trying to get her attention, and she yelled at him and said, do
• 1:12:06
  not approach me. Do not approach a woman in the parking lot. And
• 1:12:10
  it wasn't like an indoor parking garage, it was like outside, you know.
• 1:12:15
  Yeah, that's the kind of thing that makes men say, well,
• 1:12:17
  I don't think I should ever approach women again, I don't think I should
• 1:12:20
  talk to them. And if they're not talking to you, and you've and
• 1:12:24
  you've contributed to this kind of like climate of you know, distrust and fear
• 1:12:29
  that men have for talking to women, and then they don't talk to you,
• 1:12:31
  and then you become a man and they do. That doesn't mean that
• 1:12:34
  you're gaining male privilege, you know. It means that men are not nearly
• 1:12:41
  as intimidated by speaking with other men. M Well, here's another thought.
• 1:12:45
  If you define disrespect as express any kind of interest in like sexual interest,
• 1:12:51
  and of course men are not going to or going to respect you more because
• 1:12:56
  they're expressing less sexual interest in you. Yeah, that's how you define it.
• 1:13:00
  But it's that's ridiculous. Yeah, unless you want to destroy the process
• 1:13:03
  of mammalian reproduction, which you know, I don't think the human race will
• 1:13:06
  survive that particular progressive talking point. But anyway, let us uh, all
• 1:13:14
  right, let us continue. I got a supercow from PAXs Max who gives
• 1:13:17
  us ten dollars and says, play it again, Sam, play it again,
• 1:13:20
  Sam. H So let me see, I'll play this one for me
• 1:13:25
  a freaking phone here. I'm the boss. All right, so I'm gonna
• 1:13:33
  I'm gonna get more doctor Evil quotes. They think they're more most applicable to
• 1:13:39
  us. All right, Um, anyway, thank you for the donation.
• 1:13:45
  We're gonna continue the video now. Actually, so I say that, yes,
• 1:13:50
  there are some privileges that women have that I'm gonna pause it here for
• 1:13:54
  a second. Notice this guy's shirt Alpha elite male feminist muscle shirt that says
• 1:14:04
  alpha elete on it. Um. Okay, anyway, so guys, I
• 1:14:11
  think he's in self moon. I don't think this man is a real feminist.
• 1:14:15
  Actually, I so far he's like the one of the most woke on
• 1:14:19
  that side. All right, Yeah, so anyway, let's keep going.
• 1:14:26
  There's privileges that men have that women do. I don't think women are more
• 1:14:28
  privileged. Don't decided because I can get one pregnant, I can just run
• 1:14:30
  away. I can actually physically. So he tried to say, well,
• 1:14:43
  look, I can get a girl pregnant and then just run away and not
• 1:14:45
  be a father. Uh No, you can't, Like you can literally not
• 1:14:51
  have sex with a woman and be made to beat the father. Okay,
• 1:14:55
  and also this was never a thing. Nobody ever liked. Man and screwing
• 1:15:00
  women and running away. That's what shot her marriages were for. Ye.
• 1:15:04
  And that's what the biblical all the biblical stuff about rape was because at the
• 1:15:11
  time, rape was theft. It was the theft of that your your your
• 1:15:15
  girl's reproductive potential. Yeah. So this was not like when people when you
• 1:15:21
  look at the biblical times and you're like, oh, they made the girl
• 1:15:25
  marry her rapist, Yes, because he wasn't a rapist as we understood it.
• 1:15:30
  Because if he wasn't a rapist as we understood it, her uncles and
• 1:15:36
  father and brothers would mount up um, you know, lasso his neck and
• 1:15:48
  drag him until there was nothing left of him but a spinal cord. Okay,
• 1:15:55
  And then they weren't going to wait until the circuit judge came back months
• 1:16:00
  from from now. So the the cases that the circuit judge, you know,
• 1:16:06
  two thousand years ago adjudicated were cases where the you know, the male
• 1:16:12
  members of the family weren't going to immediately go kill kill a fucker, okay.
• 1:16:16
  They were the ones where property was at at issue, where expectations of
• 1:16:21
  responsibility were at issue. Where the guy had seduced the woman, or even
• 1:16:29
  probably even more likely, the woman had decided to seduce the man, perhaps
• 1:16:33
  by getting him so drunk he passed out, as in the case of Um
• 1:16:40
  the story that the Handmaiden's Tale is based on. Uh, Jacob, I
• 1:16:44
  think no about that. Yes, and I am names guys, but that
• 1:16:48
  was the one. Uh, And literally that's what happened. He was so
• 1:16:55
  drunk and then um, the woman told me impregnating her and then like was
• 1:17:02
  just spitting with her. That was it was that. Then he was screwed.
• 1:17:05
  Yeah, and he had no idea that it was not the woman he
• 1:17:09
  wanted. So, I mean it was basically a rate. I could see
• 1:17:13
  that happening in biblical time since it was mentioned in the Bible. You know,
• 1:17:15
  a woman just takes advantage of a man and it's like, yeah,
• 1:17:18
  you're hooked to me for life. Now. Um. That was the cases
• 1:17:23
  that a circuit course judge who came around like every two years would adjudicate on,
• 1:17:29
  not the cases of actual rape. Yeah, because her family members,
• 1:17:32
  her male family members, wouldn't be waiting for oh yes, let's let's let's
• 1:17:36
  see what the Because there was no justice system as we understood it. At
• 1:17:41
  that day, the justice system was your uncle's and your brothers and your father
• 1:17:45
  you know, got their pitchforks out and went and and uh and turned the
• 1:17:50
  guy into a slurry of meat. That was justice. The judge wasn't there
• 1:17:57
  too adjudicate on cases like yeah, and it was always that, that's like
• 1:18:00
  you said, So it was always a thing like lynchings, you know.
• 1:18:03
  And even then like that, there were cases where you had innocent people,
• 1:18:11
  you know, uh being killed over raping a woman, so you know,
• 1:18:15
  or supposedly raping a woman and maybe they didn't so that that's uh, yeah,
• 1:18:20
  like this, it's always been a thing like this. This. Yeah,
• 1:18:24
  with the human society, we're usually murder. We're usually torture and murder
• 1:18:28
  first determine if the guy actually raped a woman. Last. That's I mean,
• 1:18:32
  when we go back into our more primitive justice systems, that's a lot
• 1:18:38
  more common than you can imagine. Ye, when we start going into like
• 1:18:43
  survival situations. I remember there was um a situation where people in during Katrina
• 1:18:48
  and they took shelter in like a the athletic dome, like one of those
• 1:18:54
  baseball diamond colosseum things, and some there were a rumor started which was most
• 1:19:01
  likely false, that a man had done something untoward towards a young woman or
• 1:19:08
  like a girl. They fucking killed him like he was a greasy smear.
• 1:19:15
  Like this is what happens when you get groups of people together and and society
• 1:19:19
  goes away, you get charged with rape, you become a Greek greasy smear.
• 1:19:25
  Yep, that's that. This is terrifyingly true. Um and um.
• 1:19:30
  So that's always been the case as far as I can tell. And then
• 1:19:32
  you get those sometimes in Muslim countries, you get some weird thing where a
• 1:19:38
  tribal elder will or a mom will be like, yes, you you raped.
• 1:19:42
  You're the daughter of this tribe, Well, therefore the your own daughter
• 1:19:45
  will be raped, or some weird crap like really weird, really weird tribalist
• 1:19:49
  crap like that. I um, but not usually usually it's let's go to
• 1:19:55
  the murder as a as a And you know, honestly that probably probably people
• 1:20:02
  would never have accepted judicial oversight for crimes like rape if they hadn't originally murdered
• 1:20:11
  men, like just just executed men for rape like that. That like two
• 1:20:16
  one hundred and fifty years ago, you got charged with rape. You were
• 1:20:19
  dead, m you just you know past goal, you just die, You're
• 1:20:25
  just gonna get your head chopped. Yea, sure, for sure. People
• 1:20:28
  still people still think that that should happen, like, you know, I
• 1:20:31
  still hear it. Oh he should be buried under the prison. Well that's
• 1:20:33
  basically death right. And the truth is is that, like if we're gonna
• 1:20:40
  have such a severe consequence, And of course feminists will argue that, and
• 1:20:45
  a lot of normies will argue that rape is worse than murder. Um.
• 1:20:49
  So yeah, that's that's the I mean, I think a lot of people
• 1:20:54
  want that, and I think it hasn't been thought through, especially because due
• 1:20:59
  process seems like to be a rare commodity these days. So we all want
• 1:21:05
  to get back to that. Huh yeah, I'd like I'd like to,
• 1:21:10
  Yeah, it'd be nice. I mean, so let's let's uh yeah,
• 1:21:15
  No, you can't physically leave, dude. Um, there's no point in
• 1:21:17
  time where you could physically leave unless you live Jesus Christ. This guy is
• 1:21:23
  as distracting as the woman with the huge tips. I know, I know,
• 1:21:27
  he's just like us, kind of putting on a show. It's like
• 1:21:31
  look at my pecks also respect women. Um, it's weird. It's weird,
• 1:21:39
  Like you wouldn't think this guy would be you know, he you wouldn't
• 1:21:43
  think it, but there, you know you Actually you're right now that I
• 1:21:46
  think about it. He's he's, he's his plumage. Is I'm going to
• 1:21:49
  protect? Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, he's. He's he's bringing he's
• 1:21:54
  taking us to the guns and looks like, you know, he's also doing
• 1:22:00
  the undermining other men in a way because he's like I acknowledge this shit and
• 1:22:04
  other men won't. So yeah, I'm the one who's gonna anyway, let's
• 1:22:09
  keep going. Yeah all right, let's uh okay. So I got another
• 1:22:13
  super chat from PAXs Max. Oh no, no, I already read that
• 1:22:15
  one. Sorry. There was a super chat from Iron Maiden for five dollars
• 1:22:20
  and iron Maiden says, hey, random question. If a trans woman had
• 1:22:24
  sex with a man without telling him she used to be a man, is
• 1:22:27
  that considered rape? Probably not, but I think that a man should be
• 1:22:33
  able to figure that out right away. So um, I would say,
• 1:22:40
  buyer beware unless you really want to start getting into the more rarefied forms of
• 1:22:44
  rape and men are going to get hit by that worse. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:22:47
  oh, okay, let's so let's continue. At the end of the
• 1:22:53
  day, like, I don't see women have any more privileges than men because
• 1:22:56
  we don't have the same there's no way to objectively meatu it. Well,
• 1:22:59
  and in the stener that you pointed out, Okay, then how can you
• 1:23:01
  even I'm guessing that you think women have less privileges, but you just said
• 1:23:06
  there's no way to ob measure it, and I would agree. And in
• 1:23:10
  fact, the whole discourse around dominance and submission doesn't even make an oppression and
• 1:23:15
  disenfranchisement doesn't even make sense when it comes to men and women. Yeah.
• 1:23:21
  I mean, you can talk about legal rights, especially today, um that
• 1:23:30
  you know women have and men don't. You can talk about statistics, but
• 1:23:34
  at the end of the day, I couldn't say who's worse off. And
• 1:23:41
  I think that's what really approach repression comes from, because women are freaking miserable
• 1:23:47
  and and I mean, even though I would say that it's up to women
• 1:23:53
  to actually challenge this, living in a world that's constantly over emphasizing your phobias
• 1:24:00
  is is abuse. It's abusive. I mean, one hand I will say
• 1:24:05
  one, men are being abused, they're having their identities abused and maligned,
• 1:24:12
  but women are also being abused, and um it apparently it's it's hitting women
• 1:24:18
  pretty hard. Okay, let's keep going. Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:24:23
  So if a woman was pregnant, woman was pregnant, she wouldn't people to
• 1:24:26
  get an abortion and in some states, and that's a major disadvantage. No,
• 1:24:32
  no, look, okay even the state first of all, most states,
• 1:24:41
  you can't get an abortion. Is that even true? No, No,
• 1:24:45
  it's not, because I've looked at the abortion laws. Even in the
• 1:24:48
  strictest states, they still give you up to like, I think six to
• 1:24:53
  twelve weeks. Yeah, I think it is, you know, and if
• 1:24:58
  you're gonna like and I know the thing is though, yeah, I mean
• 1:25:00
  that's not it's obviously not true. But there's a lot of things he's leaving
• 1:25:05
  out. Number one is that, um, you know, there are there
• 1:25:12
  are things you can do in most states. Number Two, you could also
• 1:25:16
  make wiser decisions on who you have sex with and how you do it.
• 1:25:20
  This is like it's it's always about like, oh, women can't be responsible
• 1:25:25
  for this their disadvantage because they can't just you know, be three or fours.
• 1:25:30
  That's not that's not really a lack of privilege. And the men also,
• 1:25:34
  if you get a woman pregnant and the woman decides to keep it,
• 1:25:39
  guess what. Or let's say you want to keep it and she decides she
• 1:25:43
  doesn't want to keep it, men don't get a say in any of that.
• 1:25:45
  Yeah. Um, But here's the I want to just address the whole
• 1:25:48
  thing about all abortion board. First of all, like, I haven't yet
• 1:25:54
  seen a place that supposedly bans abortion that bands it prior to six weeks.
• 1:25:58
  Yet maybe there is, I don't know. But here's the thing. If
• 1:26:01
  you are in that place, move, if you want to have an abortion
• 1:26:04
  after six weeks, move. Here's the other thing. Why don't you be
• 1:26:09
  careful with your birth control? Yeah? Right, and no birth control fails.
• 1:26:14
  But then also be very careful about whether or not you're missing a period
• 1:26:19
  or you have the symptoms of pregnancy. Take pregnancy tests because they're ones that
• 1:26:25
  will reveal your if you're pregnant. You know that four weeks or even just
• 1:26:29
  two, you know, be careful and you can probably get it within the
• 1:26:34
  window. So what the hell are you talking about? Yep, I mean
• 1:26:41
  you not. It's a thing that you can hang your hat on in terms
• 1:26:44
  of like female victimhood, and it just it doesn't apply because women make choices.
• 1:26:49
  And if we don't accept that women make choices, and sometimes they make
• 1:26:54
  bad choices and then they have to deal with the consequences of their bad choices,
• 1:26:57
  then we can't. We can't like and begin to consider women to be
• 1:27:01
  adults, because that's what it requires. So yeah, I mean sorry,
• 1:27:06
  but first of all, you should vet a guy before you sleep with him.
• 1:27:11
  Second of all, you should learn how to use contraception, and you
• 1:27:14
  should take it very seriously. Um, and you know, like a yeah,
• 1:27:19
  if you have an accident, you might have gotten pregnant. Yeah yeah.
• 1:27:24
  And if you don't want that, then you know, do something about
• 1:27:27
  it as soon as possible, because like allowing I think I think in a
• 1:27:32
  lot of ways, um, abortion has made women less responsible because they literally
• 1:27:41
  are like, well, I can just kill it whenever, and and they
• 1:27:44
  just and they just do eventually, like I'll get around to it. You
• 1:27:46
  know, it doesn't become a priority. And if they decide not to,
• 1:27:49
  then the government says, well, you know, if you keep that,
• 1:27:53
  but you don't like, you know, like marry your husband and or the
• 1:27:57
  father of your child, and you kick him out and you take custody.
• 1:28:00
  We'll give you a bunch of money. We'll keep you housed and fed.
• 1:28:03
  You know, we'll give you a phone. So like, it's like we're
• 1:28:08
  incentivizing the bad behavior, and so we get more of the bad behavior.
• 1:28:12
  Yeah, to our to our eventual destruction. Yeah, and yeah, I'm
• 1:28:15
  going to be one percent saying it. Women's choices matter to the continuation of
• 1:28:19
  a society, and if we don't hold the standards and make them take responsibility
• 1:28:25
  for the consequences of their actions, then we are going to lose the near
• 1:28:30
  utopia that we have constructed. What we live in now, guys, is
• 1:28:34
  a near utopia. Yep. What if if we showed our lives to people
• 1:28:42
  who lived two thousand, two hundred and fifty thousand years, they would think
• 1:28:45
  we are living in heaven. We're throwing it away because we simply can't do
• 1:28:53
  one thing hold women responsible yep for their action. Yep. Okay, let's
• 1:29:01
  keep going. Uh yeah, can go get a gender change at twelve A
• 1:29:06
  you're very fixated on you can I know, I know in some states you
• 1:29:14
  can and in Thailand you can go at sixteen and get your everything cut off.
• 1:29:15
  Guys, it's a less than less than See, that's the thing that
• 1:29:20
  blonde she's like this, we're talking about a tiny percentage of the population.
• 1:29:26
  The trans thing is. I'm sorry, but that's just not relevant. Like
• 1:29:30
  it's just not talk about the situation for men and women. Yes, trans
• 1:29:33
  people have their own issues. Yes, yes, this is not time for
• 1:29:36
  it. Yeah, exactly, this is not the time for that. Okay,
• 1:29:43
  you can't say that about it does matter that when you have a child,
• 1:29:45
  you're not between the parent and the child. You can. I ask
• 1:29:47
  you a question that were asked the group of question. There's more world leaders
• 1:29:49
  who are male and typically I think that's a good things. I mean for
• 1:29:53
  me, but I do want to know it doesn't bum you out that it's
• 1:29:57
  less like women to become president. Have you, smarming son of a bitch?
• 1:30:01
  If I were there, they would have to hold me back from punching
• 1:30:03
  out this fucker. I swear to god, I've seen this expression on male
• 1:30:11
  feminists so many times. It's this I don't know how to describe it.
• 1:30:15
  It's a subtle sense of contempt and superiority. Yeah, no it doesn't because
• 1:30:19
  guess what, Like I talked about before, you got two races. In
• 1:30:25
  one race, one out of every twenty becomes a CEO and the other twenty
• 1:30:29
  become sewer workers have to pick out pieces of other people's poop out of crevices.
• 1:30:35
  And in the second race, one out of every thousand becomes a CEO
• 1:30:41
  and the rest becomes sewer workers? Which race would you rather want? When
• 1:30:45
  you smug? Fuck god, I hate that expression. Okay, sorry,
• 1:30:49
  I'm getting Oh it's okay. You know it's weird, like how he kind
• 1:30:54
  of like makes it this narcissistic thing when he says, doesn't it bum you
• 1:30:59
  out that like a woman is less likely to become president? Well, first
• 1:31:02
  of all, it's not really less likely, it's just that women are less
• 1:31:06
  likely to pursue that because it's like a tremendous amount of pressure to do a
• 1:31:13
  job like that. Second of all, most people don't become president like men
• 1:31:16
  and women, Right, most of them, like Jeff Bush probably never please
• 1:31:21
  clap. But for the for the average person, it's much more meaningful.
• 1:31:27
  How many men end up in the worst jobs versus women than become president.
• 1:31:31
  Yeah, but then he's he's like, it's like he thinks, why aren't
• 1:31:34
  these women, why don't they have the big sad because they're not able to
• 1:31:39
  be president? Why aren't they doing the big sad for me? Well?
• 1:31:43
  I can feel, you know, yeah, would it's it's so it's such
• 1:31:47
  a bad thing to say. I think it's just really bad because, I
• 1:31:53
  mean, you don't know what these women want under their life. Why are
• 1:31:56
  you telling them, you know, like we need a female president. Why
• 1:31:59
  it doesn't do anything. It doesn't change things. We have a female vice
• 1:32:02
  president. Women are not getting fucking you know, political science degrees. They're
• 1:32:08
  not they're not suddenly becoming engineers. It just that's not how the world works.
• 1:32:14
  And they can be perfectly happy without having to pursue exactly. And here's
• 1:32:17
  the other thing. I like the one woman's answer, that's a good thing.
• 1:32:20
  Good for you, lady. And honestly, even if I was a
• 1:32:24
  person who was like, yeah, there should be war women's CEOs in the
• 1:32:27
  phase of this amount of smug country, I would say that it's a good
• 1:32:30
  thing. Go next question. Well, yeah, the anti I think some
• 1:32:34
  of the anti feminists, at least they they say it is a good thing.
• 1:32:38
  But let's see, I don't feel bummed out because I know that if
• 1:32:41
  I want to pursue something that I want to do, I have every capability
• 1:32:44
  to do it in this country. I don't feel bumed out women to not
• 1:32:45
  in bee positions of extreme leadership like presidents, et cetera, et cetera,
• 1:32:48
  because we're too emotional. Note could behol I'm not saying that men emotions right
• 1:32:57
  now? Why what? Oh? I think that he's just trying to counteract
• 1:33:01
  I guess by saying I'm emotional and I'm a man. Actually, you probably
• 1:33:08
  won't be a range of snug and contemptuous. I swear to God, for
• 1:33:12
  a lot of these guys, it's more about maintaining that identity of invulnerability than
• 1:33:16
  actually creating a functional world. You know what I mean? Absolutely? This
• 1:33:21
  is why male feminists I don't know, and I would. I couldn't.
• 1:33:27
  I could not be in that position. It's quite the worst thing. It's
• 1:33:34
  like, it's like, oh, thank God, I'm not a woman.
• 1:33:38
  Yeah, okay, you believe that, but yeah. I got a super
• 1:33:44
  chat from Albert Nada retro. He gives us five fifty Canadian and says,
• 1:33:47
  I saw this before and the anti feminist women seem more feminist than the feminist
• 1:33:51
  guys in my opinion, especially Janelle. I don't know, I think that,
• 1:33:57
  Like, I think the guys are overall worse, but I think the
• 1:34:00
  women are not a lot better. There's no really red pill people on the
• 1:34:05
  panels that way. Yeah, it's like watching a bunch of Normi's babble over
• 1:34:11
  something that they can't like. Yeah, there's like one of them that,
• 1:34:15
  like, you know, at least knows about the luth model. But I
• 1:34:18
  mean, think about this. I think it's really difficult for anti feminists or
• 1:34:25
  supposedly antifeminist women or nonfeminist women to give up their privileges that they know that
• 1:34:32
  they have, and so they're going to always play that, you know,
• 1:34:36
  kind of like enlightened moderate centrist position of Well, I think that we should
• 1:34:42
  respect women and men because I don't want to lose any of what I'm getting.
• 1:34:45
  I just don't you know, maybe they just have a problem with the
• 1:34:48
  excesses so they don't have to lose. Like here's the thing. Women don't
• 1:34:54
  have to lose anything. They just have to take responsibility for what they have.
• 1:34:57
  I agree, they wouldn't lose anything, be honest and just for the
• 1:35:00
  love of God, Yes, exactly. If you don't, you're gonna lose
• 1:35:03
  it. Yeah, like responsibility is actually does if that makes sense, yes,
• 1:35:10
  because it allows you to develop your skills in managing your life. But
• 1:35:15
  yeah, what I wanted to say is that there was like, um,
• 1:35:17
  this sum in the South Pacific. There was a very remote tribe and they
• 1:35:25
  had like the the I think the US Army, the US Air Force built
• 1:35:30
  a a runway or like a place for for for UH airplanes to resupply on
• 1:35:40
  this island with this remote tribe, and throughout the war they would go and
• 1:35:45
  they would drop supplies and some of them would share stuff with the with the
• 1:35:48
  natives and um. And then when the war was over, the course they
• 1:35:53
  packed up and left, and when they came back like maybe ten years later
• 1:35:57
  to see how the natives were doing, or just just as like a survey
• 1:36:00
  or whatever, this remote tribe, the natives had constructed this plane effigy of
• 1:36:05
  a plane because they thought that it was the shape of a plane that caused
• 1:36:13
  supplies to come down. But it's like the same kinde of idea behind constructing
• 1:36:17
  I don't know, a deer, so that you can attract out, and
• 1:36:23
  of course that's not the way it worked. But they were still worshiping this
• 1:36:26
  plane as the source of supplies of like God, the sky God. This
• 1:36:31
  is these people, they have absolutely no clue what they're talking about. They
• 1:36:38
  are on a lot like their their minds can't even comprehend how deep this shit
• 1:36:45
  goes. Yea, So they're basically just like the men are basically just well,
• 1:36:50
  where where where do I open my plumage? What? What? What
• 1:36:54
  kind of plumage should I have? Where? And the women are like,
• 1:36:57
  ah ha, how do I get how do I get these guys to do
• 1:37:00
  things for me? And it's like it's just it's just watching them worship their
• 1:37:03
  freaking sky god and build their their fake airplane. Yep, all right,
• 1:37:11
  all right, who would literally just now wait one person so she can hear
• 1:37:15
  us be logical? To be sound is not something defined by gender. It's
• 1:37:18
  just something defined by your own sife, the left and right brain. It
• 1:37:20
  actually is Your question about leadership, I think is a very poignant question because
• 1:37:27
  a lot of people are asking that why don't we see more female presidents?
• 1:37:30
  All right, I'm just pausing for the banana there um the left and right
• 1:37:34
  brain apparently is false. So sub myth, why don't we see more female
• 1:37:40
  CEOs or Fortune five hundred companies? And again it goes back to those gender
• 1:37:43
  differences. There will be women who will be exceptions to the generalized rule of
• 1:37:45
  what it means to be feminine, and those women you will see succeed in
• 1:37:48
  extreme leadership. But we should also discuss what the conditions of extreme leadership are.
• 1:37:53
  We're talking eighty hour workweeks, subscribing yourself to your career and nothing else
• 1:37:57
  going down children. Psychologically and biologically, women tend to lean in the direction
• 1:38:00
  of not making those choices for themselves. While men are highly competitive, they
• 1:38:04
  are highly analytical, systematic. They're willing to put in that time and take
• 1:38:08
  extreme measures to gain career status exactly, and they get rewarded by a female
• 1:38:14
  do it because they want to attract women. Yes, that's why they want
• 1:38:17
  to attract the best mate. Like, it's accept that, and I mean
• 1:38:21
  it's not like you can't. I mean, like I've said multiple times on
• 1:38:26
  this show, hunter gatherer societies living at the edge of survival, they will
• 1:38:30
  use men and women to incentivize each other. So the most productive hunter gets
• 1:38:34
  the most productive gatherer for a wife, because she's going to be responsible for
• 1:38:39
  his material comforts and he's going to be responsible for her status in the tribe.
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  Right, So that's the way it works. And it's not that women
• 1:38:46
  can't have things that they do that make them more attractive, because it's always
• 1:38:50
  been the case throughout all of human history. You know, if you were
• 1:38:55
  a dumbassy, unless the king was also a dumbass, usually didn't go very
• 1:39:00
  far as the court is in. Yeah, um, you know, you
• 1:39:02
  had to cultivate some kind of intriguing talents or something. So it's not that
• 1:39:09
  women can honestly just present themselves. I mean they can't, but they're just
• 1:39:14
  they're not necessarily going to get the cream of the crop. Let's say.
• 1:39:16
  You know, I think that's I think that's the thing about And correct me
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  if I'm wrong, because I'm sure there are people here who know this better
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  than I do. But my understanding of geisha, as you know, geisha
• 1:39:29
  are alice. You must know, they like they're like the dolled up Japanese
• 1:39:33
  hostesses, you know that would wear like the face, the makeup and the
• 1:39:39
  dresses and the and all that the Geisha's. You know, people mistakenly,
• 1:39:44
  uh say that they're like sex workers, but that wasn't really the intent.
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  Um. But they would have to know skills. They play instruments, they
• 1:39:51
  could sing songs, they would dance, so it was like the way that
• 1:39:56
  they would um, you know, comfort guests and such. They had to
• 1:40:00
  learn skills. So and you had to learn a lot of them. Um.
• 1:40:03
  So I think that that's that. I mean, maybe I'm wrong,
• 1:40:06
  but that's what I thought of when you were explaining the thing about cortisans because
• 1:40:11
  in a way, I mean, Geisha sort of do that anyway. Yeah,
• 1:40:17
  um no, yeah, that's exactly. And honestly, if you were
• 1:40:20
  a potato like um, I mean actually, attractiveness wasn't always the quality.
• 1:40:28
  If you were personal, if you had interesting things to say, that was
• 1:40:31
  often much more credible. Like apparently apparently Cleopatra wasn't the most beautiful woman,
• 1:40:38
  but she was she understood men and she liked the things that men liked.
• 1:40:43
  Um, so she did well for herself until you know the asp but um,
• 1:40:48
  but like so I'm not saying that women can you know, necessarily just
• 1:40:53
  do absolutely nothing. But you know, a woman isn't going to be rewarded
• 1:40:58
  by much for being a Margaret Thatcher. You know she's not going to get
• 1:41:02
  like a necessarily a better partner. Okay, a better society, which is
• 1:41:08
  a good motivation, but that motivation to have a man isn't going to be
• 1:41:14
  there. So men, women in general aren't as motivated to do these things
• 1:41:18
  because they don't get the same rewards. H Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:41:25
  Okay, let's keep going. Society is about having that choice to make that
• 1:41:29
  decision. Yes, but we do, but we already have that. I
• 1:41:31
  want to close my own company. I can't, Like I said in the
• 1:41:34
  beginning, we've all agreed strict. Oh it's just restricted. Why how there's
• 1:41:42
  no legal restriction? You see, this is the thing. What is the
• 1:41:45
  restriction? Well, my brain chemicals go out and the women. A man
• 1:41:50
  called me bossy once and I was traumatized. I was traumatized. His powerful
• 1:41:58
  world made me lose. They would never understand. Yeah, um, okay,
• 1:42:09
  what No, I'm just staying like, how are women restricted? The
• 1:42:13
  only way you can say women are restricted is by pretending that men have this
• 1:42:18
  this ridiculous level of emotional and mental influence over women, which I have seen
• 1:42:25
  no goddamn evidence of m unless the women themselves end up being so totally poisoned
• 1:42:33
  by feminism that they are live in fucking terror of men breathing, you know.
• 1:42:42
  But I can't stand being a woman like that. Yep. It's just
• 1:42:46
  like they're like they're they're just constantly like pretending like things, or I don't
• 1:42:51
  know, maybe they're not pretending. They're they're terrified of men. They're terrified
• 1:42:55
  of the world, so they give them men around them the sense that their
• 1:42:59
  actions are well bigger than they actually are. Hm. Maybe that's that's appealing
• 1:43:03
  to men. I don't know. Well, it's much men like to like
• 1:43:08
  men, Men desire meaning, and right now I think they look to women
• 1:43:15
  for it too much. It's a lot, and they don't know how to
• 1:43:18
  like vet women as deserving or not deserving of their service. So yeah,
• 1:43:25
  I mean it's very distorted. But I do think that at the end of
• 1:43:29
  the day, men want to be useful and the place where they can be
• 1:43:33
  most useful in their own minds is serving women. And you might you may
• 1:43:39
  disagree with that or whatever, but that's the reality. And I think that,
• 1:43:43
  Um, it's just it's just like been really distorted because we can't.
• 1:43:48
  We should do good for people who deserve it. And the problem is that
• 1:43:55
  we can't determine women that don't deserve it because we have to just accept that
• 1:44:00
  they're all deserving. So and the funny thing is that we're also working a
• 1:44:04
  bit against human nature and we say, well, we got we gotta differentiate
• 1:44:09
  because the somaliety is most successful when when it's women are most provided and protected
• 1:44:15
  for, you know, And that's where we're fighting against it is that instinct.
• 1:44:18
  It's like, no, we need to do that. We can't.
• 1:44:21
  We can't judge women by the content of their character, because we have to
• 1:44:26
  judge them by the fact that they are the producers of children, you know.
• 1:44:30
  And it's a huge um impetus. But you can't challenge it by whatever
• 1:44:38
  it is these women are doing and these men. Yeah, okay, let's
• 1:44:43
  finish this up. This is almost over. That the beginning of feminism was
• 1:44:46
  going in the right nition of women. It was humanizing women, it was
• 1:44:49
  making them equal to men. It was giving us the same opportunities so that
• 1:44:53
  we can go vote no, that's bullshit, all of it. It's bullshit,
• 1:44:58
  so that I can go get a job that I can drive a car
• 1:45:00
  like that. I know that we weren't talking about other countries, but if
• 1:45:03
  you want to talk about feminism, go protect the women who get beat up
• 1:45:08
  for driving a car in other countries. No woman got beat up for driving
• 1:45:11
  a car. Yeah yeah, it doesn't. Again, like I said,
• 1:45:15
  Normy takes not a big fan of the brunette. It's she Okay, here's
• 1:45:18
  the thing. So there is a fifth wave. It's it's it's it's in
• 1:45:25
  its infancy, a fifth wave of feminism. And what I've learned, what
• 1:45:29
  little I have um learned about it is that, uh, it's it's sort
• 1:45:33
  of two things. Number one, well, it's three things. Number one.
• 1:45:35
  It's online mostly, which I think we was. We saw that with
• 1:45:40
  the fourth wave. Anyway. Number two, it's global, so you know,
• 1:45:44
  they're they're like trying to like fight for women's rights in other countries,
• 1:45:48
  which is why the you know, things like the driving thing comes up um
• 1:45:54
  a lot, even though the truth is is that like men had to drive
• 1:46:00
  women around so um and and then maybe you know, there were there were
• 1:46:04
  much fewer accidents because there are a few were women on the road, right
• 1:46:08
  right, Okay, just kidding, but um, the the and the last
• 1:46:13
  thing is and I think this is the real, like important part of this.
• 1:46:16
  It's going to be about reclaiming femininity and how mothers can be feminist and
• 1:46:26
  how like stay at home mothers, housewives, they can all be feminist.
• 1:46:28
  So basically it's everything feminine. And I think I know the reason for this.
• 1:46:32
  I think it's because of the trans stuff that's going on. So there's
• 1:46:36
  like Louise Perry and a couple of other feminists that call themselves reactionary feminists because
• 1:46:44
  they're turfs basically, and they're railing against the queer theorist or the queer lobby
• 1:46:51
  or whatever you want to call it, essentially to try to be able to
• 1:46:56
  like push men or not men trans women out of women's faces. So in
• 1:47:01
  a lot of ways, these anti feminist women on the right are just fifth
• 1:47:05
  way feminists and they don't know it maybe or they wouldn't use those words,
• 1:47:11
  but that's my guess. Except maybe the blonde. I think the blonde is
• 1:47:15
  probably like the least nor meish one on the panel. I was wondering if
• 1:47:21
  that guy with the packs was shorter, and I was like, yeah,
• 1:47:25
  he's like literally shorter than the transman look at the way ending He's like,
• 1:47:34
  yeah, that's fucking ridiculous, dude. Could do you have a setting called
• 1:47:40
  relax? Yeah? I know? Why is he constantly flexing? Um,
• 1:47:45
  he's trying to increase his size? Like I'll just but uh what No,
• 1:47:51
  No, I was just saying, hmm, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:47:56
  He's really impressive. But the thing is is that uh yeah again, like
• 1:48:00
  who's this ford? There's no other men on the on the panel, like
• 1:48:03
  on the opposite side, it's all women. How do you deal with that?
• 1:48:06
  Guys? How do you deal with that? How do you deal with
• 1:48:10
  women that are that are essentially thinking for themselves somewhat? I mean, even
• 1:48:15
  if I don't like their takes that much. Well, like I said,
• 1:48:18
  what I was trying to get at the beginning is that we're this is you
• 1:48:21
  can't really expect um. I don't want to say midwits, but this like
• 1:48:32
  it's just it's it's difficult to comprehend these issues on a certain level. Yeah,
• 1:48:40
  blond, what is you know the instincts that are driving you, like
• 1:48:44
  to be able to go above them and actually look at them. That's difficult.
• 1:48:47
  I don't think they're there whatever. I mean, it's interesting maybe a
• 1:48:54
  lot of trance stuff is becoming like a a material representation of the problems of
• 1:49:00
  feminism. Really that makes sense. But so that it that that's all the
• 1:49:05
  for that one, that's that section, so I think. And it's been
• 1:49:10
  almost two hours, so yes, you know what we call it here,
• 1:49:14
  I'll go to the after show. I didn't even blow up. I didn't
• 1:49:17
  blow my top. I don't think. No, it's it wasn't very it
• 1:49:23
  wasn't too infuriating. No, it's just mildly like mm hmm. Yeah,
• 1:49:30
  it's like watching like watching you know, chimpanzees try to comprehend a car,
• 1:49:35
  you know, just like they're they're they're hopping on the car, they're jumping
• 1:49:40
  on the car and mischievous. Yeah, it's just like you don't even you're
• 1:49:45
  not really gonna get it, but you you're trying with the tools that you
• 1:49:48
  have. Yeah, so you know, jolly good. Yeah, this is
• 1:49:54
  literally why by the way, I'm I'm worried about AI. Not because I
• 1:50:00
  think it's Skynet's gonna go live and watch the nukes, but because the people
• 1:50:04
  programming it and the people who are in putting the information they're going to leave
• 1:50:11
  things out. And one of the things that's I think that's going to be
• 1:50:14
  the most difficult is the truth about men. I'm seriously thinking that like this,
• 1:50:19
  at least the AI as it exists now, is never going to be
• 1:50:23
  honest about that because it's the bias comes from the people programming it, and
• 1:50:29
  I think the normy position. So let's say that they're just Normi's okay,
• 1:50:33
  they're not even trying to like pushe feminism in the AI. Although I do
• 1:50:38
  think that it will have that, they're still gonna like You're still not gonna
• 1:50:45
  get good responses. It doesn't matter if if it searches the whole Internet,
• 1:50:49
  it doesn't matter because they're gonna filter things and I think that's dangerous. So
• 1:50:58
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