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Braves EVEN UP NLDS in LA | Hammer Territory Game 2 Reaction · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone and welcome back to the Hammer Territory Podcast.
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Speaker 1: This is episode 465. My name is Brad Roland coming
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Speaker 1: to you on a Sunday evening. It's really almost Monday
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Speaker 1: morning at this point, early October. I'm joined by Scott Coleman. Scott,
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves put together a nine-inning pitching performance that
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Speaker 1: was memorable and it did it without Chris Sale. How
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Speaker 1: are you, my friend?
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Speaker 2: Hello, Brad. Yeah, for all of the conversation in the
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Speaker 2: last 24 hours about Who's going to pitch? Is it
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Speaker 2: going to be Chris Sale? If it's not going to
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Speaker 2: be Chris Sale, why is it not going to be
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Speaker 2: Chris Sale? Who's going to pitch in place of Chris Sale?
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Speaker 2: All of this talk about Sale, with good reason. But,
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Speaker 2: the Braves pitched their asses off tonight. It started with
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Speaker 2: Ray Kerr, who has just cemented himself as an Atlanta
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Speaker 2: sports legend overnight. Didier Fuentes, out of his mind for
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Speaker 2: nearly the final four innings. Robert Suarez comes in and
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Speaker 2: gets a couple of gigantic outs in the middle of
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Speaker 2: the game. Rysel Iglesias, who had been kind of in
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Speaker 2: limbo for like 45 minutes at that point, comes in
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Speaker 2: and gets the final out with like no drama.
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Speaker 1: I mean, man, what a great win for the Braves.
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Speaker 2: And after taking, we knew they had to win one
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Speaker 2: out of two in LA.
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Speaker 1: They did that.
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Speaker 2: Now they get to go home. Game three, Chris Sale.
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Speaker 2: Game four, Tyler Malley. Very much a series. Very much
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Speaker 2: game on. Right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. That's the big takeaway. This
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Speaker 1: is a series. It already was, but it was not
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Speaker 1: a must-win. We litigated that last night on the show,
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Speaker 1: but it was as close as you can get. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if you go down 0-2, no one's feeling like they're
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Speaker 1: totally dead, but no one's feeling good if they go
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Speaker 1: down 0-2. So it was a very, very important... game.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean the pitching, it's the story. I mean, honestly,
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Speaker 1: I'll still say right now, just in the interest of
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Speaker 1: being myself, I still kind of wish Chris sale pitched.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was probably the right decision to make
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Speaker 1: based on what we had available to us, but it
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Speaker 1: ended up being right. I mean, I, I kind of
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Speaker 1: tongue in cheek said on Twitter before the game started,
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Speaker 1: like if they can win this game without Chris sale,
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Speaker 1: Walt Weiss is going to look smart. Now, whether that's
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Speaker 1: the right decision or not, he's going to look smart.
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Speaker 1: And now look, if you spin it forward and just
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Speaker 1: say you win game two, you kind of feel better
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Speaker 1: about it now because Chris sales line up to pitch
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Speaker 1: on in game three at home, Tyler Malley in game four.
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Speaker 1: And all right, let's, let's do this thing. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, noted playoff ace Ray Kerr is like, it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that he threw six shutout innings
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Speaker 1: in the last two appearances that he has thrown as
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Speaker 1: the opener slash starter, like that's legendary stuff. And to
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Speaker 1: get eight outside of him and then did your Fuentes
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Speaker 1: got 11 outs tonight. 11. And he almost got 12.
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Speaker 1: He was one strike away from closing this game out
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Speaker 1: with four consecutive shutout innings. He retired 11 guys in
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Speaker 1: a row before a home run with two strikes. And
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Speaker 1: he's 21 years old. And yeah, he had kind of
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Speaker 1: a shaky series against Philadelphia. So for him to get redemption,
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Speaker 1: you see what the upside is. I think people that
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Speaker 1: didn't know Didier Fuentes has worked before now. Now they
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Speaker 1: see it. He was completely dominant in that outing tonight.
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Speaker 1: And they used six pitchers. Ironically, two of them barely
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Speaker 1: did anything. You know, Dylan Lee got a couple of outs.
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Speaker 1: Grant Holmes got a couple of outs. But six pitchers
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Speaker 1: to use to get 27 outs. We did say this
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Speaker 1: last night. I mean, I think we both thought, at
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Speaker 1: least I thought, I thought Sale was going to pitch today.
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Speaker 1: When I went to bed last night, I thought it
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Speaker 1: was going to be Sale today, most likely. But we
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Speaker 1: did acknowledge at the end of last night's show, hey,
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Speaker 1: if you don't have Chris Sale, and you know that,
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Speaker 1: you have to just spam your high leverage relievers. They
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Speaker 1: all have to be available. They all have to pitch.
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Speaker 1: And credit to Walt after I ripped, I ripped him
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Speaker 1: pretty good yesterday for the way he handled the bullpen.
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Speaker 1: I think he handled it as well as he could
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Speaker 1: have today. He was as aggressive as he could have been.
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Speaker 1: You got guys who are, you know, someone was making
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Speaker 1: a joke about this, but Robert Suarez makes $ 15 million
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Speaker 1: a year pitching in the fifth inning. Like there was
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Speaker 1: no fooling around today. They treated it like a playoff game.
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Speaker 1: Like it was a must win game and it worked.
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Speaker 2: It worked credit to Walt. And you know, now it's funny. It's, it's,
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Speaker 2: you're kind of damned if you do damned, if you don't,
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Speaker 2: but now that, Now that they have lined this up,
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Speaker 2: where Sale is going to get an extra two full
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Speaker 2: days of rest to pitch in Game 3, that's how
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Speaker 2: he pitched all year long, that's how we want Chris
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Speaker 2: to be pitching, and then you're also going to get
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Speaker 2: an extra day of rest for Tyler Malley in Game 4,
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Speaker 2: which is not a small thing. By accomplishing what you
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Speaker 2: accomplished tonight, you have turned this series upside down. If
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Speaker 2: you don't win one of these two games in L.A., Sure,
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Speaker 2: there is a world you could win games three and four,
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Speaker 2: and you go into an elimination game five, and you
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Speaker 2: see what happens, and maybe the ball bounces your way,
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Speaker 2: and you shock the world, but if you went down
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Speaker 2: 2-0 tonight, for all intents and purposes, the season was over,
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Speaker 2: and the Braves found a way to do it. The
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Speaker 2: offense continues to try to kill us. We'll eventually get
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Speaker 2: to the struggles and frustrations, a bad night for Ronald
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Speaker 2: Acuna Jr., and really just, other than Michael Harris, there
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Speaker 2: just was not a whole lot of good going on
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Speaker 2: tonight offensively, but Again, credit to all of the pitchers
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Speaker 2: who came out tonight. Even Dylan Lee, yeah, he gave
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Speaker 2: up those two base runners that Robert Suarez had to
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Speaker 2: come in and clean up, but Dylan got a couple
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Speaker 2: of big outs with runners on base. It really was
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Speaker 2: a collective effort from the pitching staff tonight, and you
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Speaker 2: just cannot shower enough praise, I think, especially on those
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Speaker 2: three of those guys, Ray Kerr, Robert Suarez, and Didier Fuentes. Right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, nine innings of work for the six guys
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Speaker 1: out of the bullpen. I mean, one of them started,
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Speaker 1: but they're all relievers and six hits, three walks, nine strikeouts.
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Speaker 1: Like if that's if that's one pitcher that does that,
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Speaker 1: we're just we're lauding that we're lauding them.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: It's that's a that's a two year for the game.
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Speaker 1: It's with good peripherals and everything else that you want.
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Speaker 1: And it was put together. It was strange. I have
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Speaker 1: a group text with what I would say are some
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Speaker 1: normie Braves fans who were often confused about what was
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Speaker 1: going on in the game. Like, what's going on here?
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Speaker 1: Why is Ray Curry coming out of the game? All
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Speaker 1: the things we were talking about last night. But, you know,
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Speaker 1: credit to everybody that pitched. I mean, other than Grant Holmes,
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Speaker 1: you can make an argument for everyone was pretty good
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Speaker 1: at some point, even Dylan Lee, like you just sounded out.
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Speaker 1: So pitching was certainly the story. Michael Harris is really
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Speaker 1: the only offensive player that I want to give a
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Speaker 1: large bit of flowers to at the top of the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Three hits, a couple of extra base hits for Michael
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Speaker 1: in this game. He wasn't totally alone. If you want
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Speaker 1: to find some positivity for the offense outside of Harris,
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Speaker 1: the Braves did draw eight walks tonight. That's a pretty
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Speaker 1: good sign generally for this offense. Blake Snell was willing
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Speaker 1: to give some free passes away to begin the game,
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Speaker 1: but it was Michael Harris and a couple of little
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Speaker 1: things here and there, and that was enough to scratch away.
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Speaker 1: Three runs is not enough to beat the Dodgers all
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Speaker 1: the time, it was enough in this particular game.
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Speaker 2: It was thankfully, thank goodness. Otherwise this would be a
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Speaker 2: very different podcast, Brad Roland, but yeah, I mean, the
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Speaker 2: Braves had runners on all over the place and this
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Speaker 2: could have been a different ball game. I mean, as
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Speaker 2: we were getting deeper and deeper, you started to, at
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Speaker 2: least in the back of your mind, it creeps in like, man,
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Speaker 2: the Braves have left a lot of runners on base
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Speaker 2: tonight and you had all the opportunities early to really
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Speaker 2: get to Snell. And then you had the very, unfortunate
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Speaker 2: double play from Ronald Acuna Jr. when it felt like
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Speaker 2: that was also a chance to really slam the door closed.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, so offense did enough.
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Speaker 1: We're going to need more.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully at home, you know, the Braves were such a
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Speaker 2: good team at home all season long. I don't have
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Speaker 2: the exact numbers in front of me, but anecdotally, it
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Speaker 2: feels like they swung the bats a lot better at
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Speaker 2: home than they did on the road over the last
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Speaker 2: six and a half months. So yeah, they just did enough.
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Speaker 2: Shouts to Michael Harris. He was probably the offensive MVP
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Speaker 2: tonight and they did have some traffic and hopefully that
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Speaker 2: means that better days.
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Speaker 1: Are on the horizon. Yeah, they left 11 guys on
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Speaker 1: base in this game and they won. If you told
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Speaker 1: me only that coming into the day, it's like, all right, Scott,
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Speaker 1: all right, Brad, you're going to leave 11 guys on
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Speaker 1: base today. Are the Braves going to win? Yes or no?
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Speaker 1: I would have said no.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: More often than not, they would have probably lost the game.
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Speaker 1: But that's why the pitching staff gets all the credit
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Speaker 1: for the most part other than Michael Harris. But a
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Speaker 1: team win, though, I mean, all things considered, all joking aside,
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Speaker 1: like a team win, lots of things had to go
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Speaker 1: right in this game. And they rolled the dice. I
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Speaker 1: think it was a risk. to not throw Chris Sale,
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Speaker 1: it was a risk. And this one, it worked out
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Speaker 1: for them and they're in a better position moving forward
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Speaker 1: in the series as a result.
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Speaker 2: And I have one more big shout out here and
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Speaker 2: kind of the lead segment. Shout out to Drake Baldwin
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Speaker 2: behind the plate tonight.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I agree.
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Speaker 2: Drake was in his bag with the ABS challenges and
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Speaker 2: not only like late in the game, there were critical
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Speaker 2: pitches that were not called accurately. And Drake was aggressive
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Speaker 2: with his challenges. We've talked on the podcast for a
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Speaker 2: long time and I think fans know The challenges that
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Speaker 2: this team as a whole has had with ABS, but Drake,
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Speaker 2: especially late, man, he was dialed in. There were some
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Speaker 2: close pitches that no one would have blamed him for challenging,
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Speaker 2: and he did not challenge, and he would have been
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Speaker 2: wrong if he did. But whenever it counted most, he
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Speaker 2: was really, really good tonight with ABS and did a
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Speaker 2: great job with also a much better home plate umpire
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Speaker 2: than what we had in game one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the home scorecard came out today about yesterday's game,
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Speaker 1: and we were right to criticize the umpire from yesterday.
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Speaker 1: by all the numbers that we had available to us.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, shots to Drake. I've definitely poked fun at
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Speaker 1: Drake's ABS stuff in the past. He was quite good
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Speaker 1: in that game. You're right. He also drew three walks offensively.
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Speaker 1: He's had kind of a rough week, but little signs, patience,
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Speaker 1: all those things, and a good day for him. And look,
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Speaker 1: he also gets credit beyond the ABS challenges. When you're
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Speaker 1: the catcher and you're catching six pitchers over the course
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Speaker 1: of a game and they hold the Dodgers for two runs,
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Speaker 1: you get some credit for that. I think the pitchers
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Speaker 1: get the most credit Drake deserves some credit for the
9:49
Speaker 1: way things went with the run prevention on the whole.
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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, there's a lot more to get to
9:54
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9:57
Speaker 1: key moments, frustrations, even in a win. We'll get into
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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, let's dig in. There was some fireworks
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Speaker 1: right away. In this one, didn't have to wait very
11:13
Speaker 1: long for some action in this particular game. The Braves
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Speaker 1: loaded the bases with one out. Ronald Acuna Jr. had
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Speaker 1: a rough night, as you mentioned. He did single in
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Speaker 1: the first inning and stole second. So it went down
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Speaker 1: from there, but he did participate in the run scoring
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Speaker 1: early in the game. Matt Olsen drew a four-pitch walk.
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Speaker 1: Ozzie then worked a very impressive walk, I thought, by
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Speaker 1: Ozzie standards. And then the guy that we lauded earlier
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Speaker 1: did have a bad moment. Michael Harris had a bad
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Speaker 1: moment in this game, and it was the First pitch
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Speaker 1: swinging pop out in the first inning after back-to-back walks.
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Speaker 1: I was mad at Michael in that moment, I have
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Speaker 1: to say. I very much enjoyed Michael. That was a
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Speaker 1: bad moment for him. But hey, Mauricio Dubon, Captain Clutch,
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Speaker 1: came through to at least make sure they got one
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Speaker 1: in the first because that would have been a bad
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Speaker 1: tone to set if they had not gotten a run
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Speaker 1: in the first inning.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, thank goodness for Dubon. And it was
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Speaker 2: not exactly a rocket ship up the middle either. It
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Speaker 2: was just perfectly placed. And thankfully, Dubon was able to
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Speaker 2: beat it. and beat the throw from Mookie Betts up
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Speaker 2: the middle. But it just felt good. You know, very
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Speaker 2: much the formula with Ray Kerr on the mound in
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Speaker 2: game three of the wildcard round. They gave him an
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Speaker 2: early lead, and everybody kind of breathes a little bit
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Speaker 2: better whenever you do put a number up early to
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Speaker 2: support your pitcher, no matter who it is, and especially
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Speaker 2: a reliever who's making, what was it, like his 10th
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Speaker 2: or 11th appearance of the year in the major leagues
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Speaker 2: this year with Kerr. So good to get a run there.
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Speaker 2: You would have certainly liked to have scored more. And
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Speaker 2: I did think the Braves had a really good approach
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Speaker 2: against Blake Snell. I think they were sitting on that
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Speaker 2: curve ball that he throws so much.
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Speaker 1: It's with good reason.
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Speaker 2: It's a really effective pitch. It felt like they were
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Speaker 2: working around that and being patient. And as we talked
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Speaker 2: off the top, if with one of their opportunities, someone
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Speaker 2: was able to gap a ball, then maybe it's, it's
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Speaker 2: even a bigger lead than what they're able to give
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Speaker 2: Kerr early on.
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Speaker 1: Right. Blake Snell has been hurt a lot the last
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Speaker 1: couple of years. He's made 20 starts in the regular
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Speaker 1: season in the last two seasons. His ERA is like 2.1.
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Speaker 1: His FIPS is almost the same. He's very, very, very
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Speaker 1: good when he pitches. Now, he's not always the most
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Speaker 1: economical guy in the world. He doesn't go deep into
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Speaker 1: games a lot because he does kind of nibble, and
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Speaker 1: he's not a fun watch, honestly. That's always been the
13:21
Speaker 1: knock on Blake Snell. Not the most fun guy to
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Speaker 1: watch pitch, but he is really good. Credit to the
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Speaker 1: Braves for making him look very ordinary. If you didn't
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Speaker 1: know Blake Snell was that good, you probably wouldn't have
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Speaker 1: known it today. He walks five, a couple in the
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Speaker 1: first inning, etc., That early lead, I would love to know.
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Speaker 1: There are numbers about it. Almost the science of it,
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Speaker 1: how does that affect the pitchers when you go out
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Speaker 1: there and you know you're ahead? There's a little bit
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Speaker 1: of conjecture in there, but I think you're onto something.
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Speaker 1: It really helps to have the lead from the outset.
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Speaker 1: Ray Kerr strikes out Otani and Will Smith right out
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Speaker 1: of the gate. Ray Kerr is a legend, honestly. I
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Speaker 1: know I made the The playoff ace joke, but come on, man.
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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: And I love too that Kerr's story has kind of
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Speaker 2: gone national now. I know that I saw a tweet
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Speaker 2: that had, you know, like 2 million impressions and engagement
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Speaker 2: or something like that. Like a lot of people have
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Speaker 2: learned about Ray Kerr, the incredible story that he had.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that he, him pitching in games
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Speaker 2: like this is improbable. Everything we know, right? Like a
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Speaker 2: guy who doesn't get to the majors until his late 20s,
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Speaker 2: He has an elbow injury and has surgery when he's
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Speaker 2: like 30 years old. The success rate of pitchers who
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Speaker 2: are 30 some odd years old and have not established
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Speaker 2: themselves in the majors to come back and not only
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Speaker 2: be effective now, but make two remarkable starts in the
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Speaker 2: playoffs against the Phillies and the Dodgers is just awesome.
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Speaker 2: You know, hopefully the Braves have a lot of games
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Speaker 2: and Ray Kerr is going to continue to get his
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Speaker 2: moment in the sun, but However long this train goes,
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Speaker 2: just cannot heap enough praise on Ray Kerr and just
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Speaker 2: the perseverance that he has shown on both a personal
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Speaker 2: and professional level to have a moment like he had tonight.
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Speaker 1: For sure. He's lived a life, and it's just really
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Speaker 1: easy to root for. I can't remember if it was
15:12
Speaker 1: Joe Davis. Somebody called him a kid, and I was like, guys,
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Speaker 1: he's 32 years old. This is not a kid at all.
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Speaker 1: This guy's been through a lot of things. It's awesome, though.
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Speaker 2: Definitely.
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Speaker 1: He's just pitching great. too like it's not smoking mirrors
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Speaker 1: i'll say like if you didn't know the story and
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Speaker 1: just watch the guy pitch it's like oh this guy
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Speaker 1: this guy is good he's got good stuff he's missing
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Speaker 1: bats and uh it's not fake i'll.
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Speaker 2: Say um it must be really hard for hitters to
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Speaker 2: pick him up because nobody looks comfortable in the box
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Speaker 2: like he you know he said he struck out shohei
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Speaker 2: otani and and in the two games in the playoffs
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Speaker 2: and even going back to the regular season no one
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Speaker 2: looks comfortable up there nobody is hitting the ball hard
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Speaker 2: against kerr and he has faced some ridiculously talented hitters
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Speaker 2: in these couple of games. And tonight you can bet
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers scouted the hell out of his appearance in
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Speaker 2: the wildcard round, like way more of an advanced scout
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Speaker 2: than Kerr usually gets whenever he goes on the mound.
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Speaker 2: And he was able to basically navigate it without any
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Speaker 2: real drama.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The only trouble he really had was in the third,
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Speaker 1: he gave up a leadoff double. There was a, I
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Speaker 1: will talk about bunting later. There was a bunt that
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Speaker 1: was popped up. That was a nice gift from the
16:20
Speaker 1: Dodgers for a free out. Uh, he did walk Mookie
16:23
Speaker 1: Betts on four pitches and I thought he looked a
16:24
Speaker 1: little bit tired. Maybe in that plate appearance, the command
16:27
Speaker 1: was going a little bit. He stayed in to face Otani,
16:30
Speaker 1: which made sense because Otani is left-handed and they had
16:32
Speaker 1: Grant Holmes up at the bullpen. That was a big
16:34
Speaker 1: out to get Otani in that spot. When you're maybe tired, um,
16:38
Speaker 1: two guys on base, et cetera, Grant Holmes does come
16:41
Speaker 1: in and gets out of the inning. There was potential
16:44
Speaker 1: drama there in the third. And they, uh, they were
16:46
Speaker 1: able to escape that that way. Also that, that they, uh, Selfishly,
16:50
Speaker 1: that preserves Ray Kerr's spotless record for the playoffs. His
16:54
Speaker 1: 0.0 ERA, it's easier to talk about. He didn't allow
16:57
Speaker 1: a run. A little bit of drama, but he got
17:01
Speaker 1: out of it. If you get Otani out twice, I
17:04
Speaker 1: know Otani's been more human recently, but I don't care.
17:07
Speaker 1: That guy's an alien, so if you get him out twice,
17:10
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good.
17:10
Speaker 2: It's the kind of story you tell your grandkids about
17:12
Speaker 2: one day, if you're Ray Kerr. You know, and I
17:15
Speaker 2: think you mentioned the walk to Mookie. So that was
17:18
Speaker 2: just before that Jeremy Hefner went out to the mound
17:21
Speaker 2: to talk. I think that might've been an intentional, unintentional
17:24
Speaker 2: walk to get around the righty. And then you go
17:27
Speaker 2: after Shohei Otani, who's of course a lefty. And that's
17:29
Speaker 2: a terrifying thought, but then, you know, and then they
17:32
Speaker 2: went away and they went to Grant Holmes and credit
17:34
Speaker 2: to Grant Holmes who got Will Smith to swing over
17:37
Speaker 2: a slider. And in one pitch, they.
17:39
Speaker 1: Were out of the jam.
17:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
17:42
Speaker 1: So the, the fourth inning was, um, Probably the single
17:46
Speaker 1: worst ending of the game for the Braves on the whole. Offensively,
17:52
Speaker 1: Murphy and Baldwin both drew walks. They did chase Blake Snell.
17:55
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that was good or bad,
17:56
Speaker 1: given the way that Snell was pitching, but they got
17:58
Speaker 1: him out of there. Two on two out for Acuna,
18:01
Speaker 1: who grounds out to end the inning. And through four innings,
18:05
Speaker 1: the Braves had left seven on base. And I was like, oh,
18:09
Speaker 1: this is not going well. And then in the bottom half,
18:13
Speaker 1: old pal Freddie Freeman ties the game with a solo
18:15
Speaker 1: home run off of Grant Holmes. Um, I don't know
18:18
Speaker 1: if we talked about this at all. Maybe, maybe Sean
18:20
Speaker 1: Steven did it. I'm not remembering it. Freddie's been like
18:22
Speaker 1: pretty bad for about a month. Uh, like OPS of
18:26
Speaker 1: like 400. He had not had an extra base hit
18:29
Speaker 1: since September 2nd. That's more than a month from now.
18:33
Speaker 1: And of course the homers against Grant Holmes. Um, And
18:36
Speaker 1: then Holmes gave him another single and a walk before
18:39
Speaker 1: he got lifted from the game. He only got two outs.
18:42
Speaker 1: You're right. The one in the third was a big out.
18:43
Speaker 1: So credit to Grant Holmes for that one. He was
18:45
Speaker 1: the one pitcher that I think you probably can't give
18:48
Speaker 1: too much positive stuff to this game. I like Grant Holmes.
18:52
Speaker 1: It was not a great Grant Holmes outing. Yeah, it's tough.
18:55
Speaker 2: And this Dodgers lineup is so good.
18:57
Speaker 1: It's so talented. It's so deep.
18:59
Speaker 2: And, you know, Grant really lives off that slider. And
19:03
Speaker 2: when a team knows in the postseason that it's going
19:05
Speaker 2: to be the slider and they've really advanced scouted you
19:08
Speaker 2: to death, it's going to be even more difficult. So,
19:10
Speaker 2: you know, credit to Grant. He did get that big
19:12
Speaker 2: out from Will Smith the inning prior. But, yeah, as
19:15
Speaker 2: soon as he gave up the homer to Freddie, I
19:16
Speaker 2: think everybody was like, okay, all right. Like, ideally, you
19:19
Speaker 2: would have liked Grant to cover maybe another full inning.
19:21
Speaker 2: But as we knew and as we talked about, it
19:23
Speaker 2: was all hands on deck tonight. And at the first
19:25
Speaker 2: sign of danger, You have to change. And credit to
19:28
Speaker 2: Walt Weiss for recognizing it in the moment and immediately
19:31
Speaker 2: making the change.
19:33
Speaker 1: Right. I wanted to get to that, too, because I'm
19:37
Speaker 1: sure the plan was not for Grant Holmes to get
19:39
Speaker 1: two outs. I'm sure the plan in the perfect world
19:42
Speaker 1: was to have Grant Holmes maybe go two or three innings.
19:45
Speaker 1: And that just wasn't feasible in that spot. And that's okay.
19:48
Speaker 1: You get out of it. Dylan Lee comes in. I
19:51
Speaker 1: know we've had our ups and downs with Dylan Lee recently.
19:53
Speaker 1: He got two huge outs. First and second with one out.
19:56
Speaker 1: They bring in Muncy, who, as we talked about offline
19:59
Speaker 1: before we started recording, Max Muncy is just, for whatever reason,
20:02
Speaker 1: just terrifies me and is always a pain to deal with.
20:05
Speaker 1: Lee got him out. And got two huge outs basically
20:09
Speaker 1: to escape that mini drama. It's still one-to-one. It's like,
20:11
Speaker 1: all right, we should be winning this game. We're not,
20:14
Speaker 1: but we're not losing.
20:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
20:16
Speaker 1: A couple of big outs from Dylan Lee. And also,
20:18
Speaker 1: I mean, he stayed in, but, you know, as we'll
20:22
Speaker 1: get to in a second, there was no extended hook
20:25
Speaker 1: for anybody. The only guy who had leeway was Didier Fuentes,
20:28
Speaker 1: I guess. And by the way, he got no one
20:31
Speaker 1: reach base against him. So it was like, all right,
20:33
Speaker 1: I guess we're just going to keep going until someone
20:35
Speaker 1: reaches base against Didier Fuentes.
20:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was, man, the Braves, it was a tightrope, basically,
20:41
Speaker 2: from the first inning all the way through the night.
20:43
Speaker 2: They had to be nearly perfect. And, you know, on
20:46
Speaker 2: Dylan Lee, this team, if the Braves want to turn
20:50
Speaker 2: this into a special year, Dylan Lee has to be better. And,
20:55
Speaker 2: you know, he got into trouble there in the inning.
20:57
Speaker 2: He issued a walk. I don't think anything was necessarily close.
21:00
Speaker 2: And then the single he gave up to Otani was
21:03
Speaker 2: opposite field, just under Austin Riley. I think it was
21:05
Speaker 2: a 200 expecting batting average. So it wasn't like he
21:08
Speaker 2: went up and gave up back-to-back just absolute rocket home
21:11
Speaker 2: runs like he did four days ago to.
21:14
Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber and Bryce Harper.
21:17
Speaker 2: But this team needs Dylan Lee to be better. And
21:20
Speaker 2: Dylan Dodd has been really good from the left side.
21:23
Speaker 2: And Brent Suter from the left side is more of
21:25
Speaker 2: like a bulk guy. I'd be stunned if we ever
21:27
Speaker 2: see Brent Suter in high leverage. But the fact is,
21:31
Speaker 2: if this team wants to shock the world, take down
21:33
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, presumably then go see the Brewers, who have
21:36
Speaker 2: a really, really good team. Brewers are up 2-0 if
21:39
Speaker 2: folks miss that after a crazy game today. They need
21:42
Speaker 2: Dylan Lee to be better. And that's something that I
21:45
Speaker 2: don't know if anyone has a lot of confidence in
21:46
Speaker 2: right now, but they've got to keep working. Jeremy Hefner
21:50
Speaker 2: has to keep working with Dylan. They have to look
21:52
Speaker 2: at the tape. They've got to work that through in
21:53
Speaker 2: bullpen sessions. I don't know if he's tired. I don't
21:56
Speaker 2: know if he's if he's hurt and he's pitching through something,
21:59
Speaker 2: I don't know, but this is not the same Dylan
22:01
Speaker 2: Lee that was just so incredibly good. The first, however
22:05
Speaker 2: many months of the season.
22:07
Speaker 1: For sure. We agree on that. I, you got into it.
22:10
Speaker 1: I think he was probably better than the results in
22:13
Speaker 1: this game. Even the walk to bets was literally a,
22:16
Speaker 1: it was called a strikeout and overturn on ABS. Now
22:19
Speaker 1: it was the correct call. Obviously you got overturned. It was,
22:21
Speaker 1: it was ball four, but it was close enough where
22:23
Speaker 1: it was called a strike in real time. Like he
22:25
Speaker 1: didn't like embarrass himself. And then the Otani single was like,
22:28
Speaker 1: all right, what are you going to do? But you're
22:29
Speaker 1: still right. He's got to be better. A hundred percent.
22:33
Speaker 1: We should mention the Braves. By the time Lee had
22:34
Speaker 1: that trouble, I take it in the lead again because
22:36
Speaker 1: Michael Harris, the offensive hero of the day had a
22:39
Speaker 1: two out, a two out triple in the fifth, not
22:42
Speaker 1: exactly obliterated. I would say kind of guided into the
22:47
Speaker 1: left field corner from Mike, but he can run. and
22:51
Speaker 1: placed it perfectly, and then a nice little gift, he
22:53
Speaker 1: scores on a wild pitch as well. We love a
22:56
Speaker 1: manufactured run, even though it wasn't manufactured by the Braves.
22:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all with two outs, and it looked
23:02
Speaker 2: like the inning, it was two outs and two strikes,
23:04
Speaker 2: and Mike just kind of threw his bat at a
23:06
Speaker 2: slider off the zone, and it happened to, I mean,
23:09
Speaker 2: shouts to Teoscar Hernandez, who is not exactly fleet of
23:12
Speaker 2: foot in left field, but you know, the ball was
23:14
Speaker 2: also carrying in a weird way, and it got down,
23:17
Speaker 2: and then the wild pitch a couple pitches later, so
23:20
Speaker 2: You know what, sometimes in playoff games, that's what it
23:22
Speaker 2: comes down to. Can you throw your bat at it
23:24
Speaker 2: and you get an extra base hit? And then you
23:26
Speaker 2: get a gift and you take advantage. And it was
23:28
Speaker 2: just another really good night for Michael Harris, other than
23:31
Speaker 2: that first inning that we talked about. I think pretty
23:34
Speaker 2: clearly Mike has been the offensive MVP through five games
23:37
Speaker 2: so far.
23:38
Speaker 1: Just has been really, really good in these playoffs. Yeah,
23:42
Speaker 1: Harris and Albies have just been great. Ozzie's been good.
23:45
Speaker 1: I mean, they both have... they both have OPSs of
23:48
Speaker 1: like 1100 plus so far. It's five games, but like
23:51
Speaker 1: those guys have been awesome. So shouts to them. And
23:53
Speaker 1: obviously the rally home run was helpful, but, oh, I
23:56
Speaker 1: will say just, just while we're here, still leading the
23:59
Speaker 1: team in OPS in the playoffs. You have a guest
24:02
Speaker 1: based on my tone as to who's leading the team
24:04
Speaker 1: in OPS.
24:06
Speaker 3: Mr.
24:06
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy, everybody.
24:07
Speaker 2: Sean Murphy, baby. Sean Murphy.
24:10
Speaker 1: Now I'm just trolling, honestly. I'm not even being serious
24:12
Speaker 1: right now.
24:13
Speaker 2: Actually, one quick note on Sean Murphy because weirdly tonight,
24:17
Speaker 2: so Drake was, of course, catching and Murphy was DHing.
24:20
Speaker 2: There was a lot of conversation. I think, one, we
24:23
Speaker 2: saw tonight it's a little easier to rotate and substitute
24:26
Speaker 2: your DH than it is your catcher. And also, after
24:30
Speaker 2: catching nine innings on Saturday when it was 108 degrees
24:34
Speaker 2: on the field at Dodger Stadium, I'm guessing Murph was
24:36
Speaker 2: a little spent, so I thought that was– at first
24:39
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, why do they have Drake catching
24:41
Speaker 2: and Sean Murphy's not a DH? Sean Murphy's a catcher
24:44
Speaker 2: who can run into one. But I did want to
24:46
Speaker 2: at least mention that, and it worked out tonight.
24:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that point is the right one about
24:51
Speaker 1: like if you have Murphy catching, you could pinch hit
24:55
Speaker 1: for him or pinch run for him if he gets
24:57
Speaker 1: on base. Then you have to burn your DH, which
25:00
Speaker 1: means you have to pinch hit every time that spot
25:02
Speaker 1: comes up because Drake's got a booty catcher, et cetera.
25:04
Speaker 1: If you have Murphy DH-ing, you can pitch it for
25:07
Speaker 1: him once with Rowdy Tellez. And the next time through
25:11
Speaker 1: the order, if you still want Rowdy Tellez at the plate,
25:13
Speaker 1: you're fine. Whereas if you burn your DH, you have
25:15
Speaker 1: to use somebody else and somebody else and somebody else.
25:18
Speaker 1: And Rowdy is back to the ball, by the way. Yeah.
25:22
Speaker 2: Rowdy hit a ball 107 miles an hour tonight and
25:24
Speaker 2: then also drew that walk. So maybe there's something there.
25:27
Speaker 2: I mean, it was– I don't think anyone was really
25:30
Speaker 2: expecting Rowdy Tellez to be getting important at-bats for this
25:32
Speaker 2: team in October. But he looked good tonight. He looked
25:35
Speaker 2: better than Dom Smith, I would say. So, yeah, maybe
25:38
Speaker 2: it's Rowdy time. Just a specimen of a man. But, hey,
25:42
Speaker 2: he swings hard. And if he makes contact, he can
25:45
Speaker 2: hit a ball a long way.
25:48
Speaker 1: Yes, to say the least. It's a very, very large
25:50
Speaker 1: individual with some power from the left side of the plate.
25:53
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, in a second, we'll get into the
25:55
Speaker 1: rest of the game, plus a look at game three
25:58
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26:15
Speaker 1: say in a beautiful way, when Didgeridoo came into the game,
26:19
Speaker 1: things really almost sped up. He was so dominant that
26:24
Speaker 1: this game kind of like got into like overdrive. At
26:27
Speaker 1: least it felt like to me, I wasn't timing things.
26:30
Speaker 1: But aside from some pitching changes from the Dodgers, it
26:33
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Didier goes out there. It's one, two, three.
26:36
Speaker 1: He goes back out there. One, two, three. And again
26:38
Speaker 1: and again and again. And the Braves did add on
26:41
Speaker 1: to the lead in the seventh with a Matt Olsen
26:44
Speaker 1: single and a Michael Harris double. Shouts to Matt for
26:48
Speaker 1: getting on his horse there. I was a little worried
26:50
Speaker 1: he couldn't score on that play, but it wasn't even
26:52
Speaker 1: a play-to-play. Matt was motoring it by math standards.
26:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fastest 45 seconds in sports. Matt Olsen going
26:59
Speaker 2: from first to home on a ball in the gap,
27:02
Speaker 2: much to the detriment of Joe Davis in the booth.
27:04
Speaker 2: Come on, man.
27:05
Speaker 1: Put a little.
27:06
Speaker 2: I know he's the play-by-play guy for the Dodgers, and
27:08
Speaker 2: it's hard to just flip that switch, but, dude, come on.
27:12
Speaker 2: A little emotion here. Braves don't score that much. When
27:14
Speaker 2: we score, we need a little oomph from the booth.
27:17
Speaker 3: Um.
27:18
Speaker 2: But yes, good to see Matt. I don't even think
27:21
Speaker 2: the Dodgers really were trying. The ball went into second base,
27:24
Speaker 2: so if they really hit the relay man perfectly, it
27:27
Speaker 2: could have been a close play at home. But yeah,
27:29
Speaker 2: good for Matt, good for Mike. This team really needed
27:32
Speaker 2: the extra insurance run to go up by two. I mean,
27:35
Speaker 2: obviously tonight, even more so, knowing what happened with Max
27:38
Speaker 2: Muncy there in the bottom of the ninth inning. Thank
27:40
Speaker 2: goodness they were able to get that extra insurance run
27:42
Speaker 2: and go up 3-1.
27:45
Speaker 1: We praise Michael a lot already, but that was a
27:47
Speaker 1: great plate appearance.
27:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:49
Speaker 1: Like he, he was, uh, there were two strikes. He
27:51
Speaker 1: was really battling and, you know, it was probably, I
27:54
Speaker 1: don't want to overstate it, but it was kind of
27:55
Speaker 1: an encapsulation of this season where he's just become a
27:58
Speaker 1: much more, um, I don't know if it's patient. I
28:01
Speaker 1: don't know if it's like just more mature hitter this season.
28:04
Speaker 1: It's going to be the right word.
28:05
Speaker 2: I don't know.
28:05
Speaker 1: Just complete. That's a good way to put it. Um,
28:08
Speaker 1: that was a great plate appearance. And obviously the double
28:09
Speaker 1: is what matters and what we remember. But, uh, he just,
28:12
Speaker 1: it was the seventh pitch of the at bat. He
28:14
Speaker 1: was just in control up there, which was very, very helpful.
28:17
Speaker 1: And Matt was on his horse. Um, we alluded to
28:20
Speaker 1: this earlier, but the top of the eighth almost set,
28:24
Speaker 1: I think maybe you into an early grave and maybe
28:26
Speaker 1: a lot of our listeners. So the Braves were winning
28:28
Speaker 1: the game, which is helpful. They were winning, but no
28:31
Speaker 1: one was comfortable at that point. The aforementioned rally to
28:34
Speaker 1: Les draws a walk rally gets hit by a pitch
28:37
Speaker 1: against rookie Sasaki, who was not on his P's and Q's.
28:41
Speaker 1: I didn't think, um, Before we get to Ronald, you
28:45
Speaker 1: know I got to talk about the bunt, right? You
28:47
Speaker 1: know that's coming. I unsurprisingly hated the bunt. What did
28:51
Speaker 1: you think of Mike Yastrzemski being asked to bunt?
28:54
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. Every time we have this conversation,
28:57
Speaker 2: I say, I'm usually anti-bunt, but in that situation, you're
29:06
Speaker 2: up 3-1. Even one more run there. The difference between
29:10
Speaker 2: a 3-1 game and a 4-1 game is gigantic, both Statistically,
29:14
Speaker 2: like in terms of your win probability, but also just
29:16
Speaker 2: from a comfort standpoint, the theory of, all right, Yaz,
29:20
Speaker 2: you bunt him over. Perfect bunt, by the way, from
29:22
Speaker 2: Mike Yastrzemski there. Credit to him, not a guy who
29:25
Speaker 2: bunts much. But the theory of surely Drake Baldwin, who
29:29
Speaker 2: they intentionally walked, and surely Ronald Acuna Jr. can hit
29:32
Speaker 2: a fly ball somewhere and score Brewer-Hicklin from third to
29:36
Speaker 2: get an extra run in. I understood the thought process
29:38
Speaker 2: behind it.
29:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, I, it was not in the top tier of
29:45
Speaker 1: bunts that enraged me. I'll give you that for reasons
29:48
Speaker 1: that you just laid out, right? Yaz is, well, I
29:50
Speaker 1: like Yaz and have defended Yaz this season. Not like
29:52
Speaker 1: an elite hitter. I get that. Um, my, my biggest
29:56
Speaker 1: thing other than just hating bunts and the fact that
29:58
Speaker 1: I don't, I think the math doesn't support them. Sasaki
30:01
Speaker 1: couldn't find the plate. Why are you giving him an out?
30:04
Speaker 1: What is my other thing on top of everything else?
30:06
Speaker 1: He had just, he had just walked a guy on
30:08
Speaker 1: four pitches and then hit it and then hit someone.
30:11
Speaker 1: And then by the way, I know they walked Drake intentionally.
30:14
Speaker 1: It was three and O on Drake unintentionally before they
30:17
Speaker 1: walked him. They, so Sasaki could not find the plate.
30:21
Speaker 1: And it's like, here you go. Here's a free out Rookie. And, anyway,
30:25
Speaker 1: it's not, not Yaz's fault. He executed it perfectly. I
30:29
Speaker 1: wasn't like in a blind rage about it, but I,
30:31
Speaker 1: anytime I can rant about a bunt, I'm going to have,
30:33
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to do it.
30:34
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then we should talk about Ronald Acuna Jr. There.
30:39
Speaker 2: We have to, he's been bad. He has been capital
30:42
Speaker 2: letters bad. He's had a couple of hits in the
30:44
Speaker 2: post season, but they have been largely inconsequential. You know,
30:47
Speaker 2: a lot of, I mean, he did get that single
30:49
Speaker 2: in the ninth inning of game one and then came around.
30:51
Speaker 1: To score on Ozzie's Homer.
30:52
Speaker 2: But, For the most part, the few times Ronald has
30:55
Speaker 2: gotten a hit or gotten on base, it hasn't had
30:57
Speaker 2: a massive impact on the game. But it's not just Ronald.
31:01
Speaker 2: It's Drake. And I thought Drake had a better night tonight.
31:04
Speaker 2: Saw the ball well.
31:05
Speaker 1: Got on base. And Matt.
31:07
Speaker 2: So you pulled these numbers. At one point, I pulled
31:09
Speaker 2: the numbers. I think there's something. So Baldwin, Acuna, and
31:12
Speaker 2: Olsen are something like 9 for 55 in the playoff
31:17
Speaker 2: so far. And by OPS, Drake is at 484 points.
31:23
Speaker 2: Acuna is at 485 and Olsen is at 543. The
31:30
Speaker 2: big three has to be better. And the fact the
31:34
Speaker 2: Braves are three and two in the playoffs against the
31:38
Speaker 2: pitching they have seen with Baldwin, Acuna and Olsen all
31:42
Speaker 2: being sub 550 OPS. And like, it's not like Austin
31:46
Speaker 2: Riley's hit five home runs or something like there's no one.
31:48
Speaker 2: Other than Michael Harris and Ozzie, it's not like anybody
31:51
Speaker 2: else is just out of their mind offensively.
31:53
Speaker 1: Either to carry the load.
31:54
Speaker 2: If you'd have just blindly told me a week ago,
31:57
Speaker 2: through five games, Baldwin, Acuna, and Olsen will all be
32:00
Speaker 2: sub-550 OPS, I think my response to you would be,
32:03
Speaker 2: they're not making it five games because this team can't
32:05
Speaker 2: withstand that trio being so poor at the plate.
32:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's crazy. The fact that they're where they
32:14
Speaker 1: are with those three guys doing that, And, you know,
32:17
Speaker 1: they've all three had, like, little tiny moments. Like, they're
32:20
Speaker 1: not all going 0 for 5 every night. But you're right.
32:22
Speaker 1: No high liver. I mean, Matt had the one homer.
32:26
Speaker 1: Drake had a good game today. But, like, I'm looking
32:29
Speaker 1: at the OPSs right now. Mauricio Dubon had a big
32:32
Speaker 1: hit tonight. He has a 549 OPS in the playoffs.
32:36
Speaker 1: Austin Riley had the huge home run, which was huge.
32:39
Speaker 1: That's why they won that game. Even including that, he
32:41
Speaker 1: has a 646 OPS in the playoffs. Like, you're talking
32:45
Speaker 1: about two-thirds of their lineup has been like pretty openly
32:48
Speaker 1: bad offensively in five games that are three and two.
32:51
Speaker 1: So on one hand, you're fortunate that that's happened on
32:54
Speaker 1: the other. You can't, you won't keep winning. I can
32:58
Speaker 1: promise you that they're not one of the world series
32:59
Speaker 1: with the, with these OPSs.
33:01
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:01
Speaker 1: Not going to happen.
33:02
Speaker 2: Sounds like a good problem to fix beginning Tuesday night
33:06
Speaker 2: at Truist Park against Yamamoto, who is a, another, the Braves,
33:10
Speaker 2: all they're seeing are just like top end premium, premium talents.
33:14
Speaker 2: I mean, truthfully, The starting pitching they have seen in
33:17
Speaker 2: five games so far is ridiculous. It's got to be
33:21
Speaker 2: up there with like one of the most difficult five
33:23
Speaker 2: starting pitcher stretches. If you want to especially include Zach
33:26
Speaker 2: Wheeler in there, who realistically should have started game three
33:29
Speaker 2: for the Phillies instead. But yeah, they have seen some
33:31
Speaker 2: absurdly good pitching. The two best pitching staffs in baseball
33:34
Speaker 2: this year by war. And they've still found a way
33:37
Speaker 2: to win 3-2 despite everything we know.
33:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's well put. We talked about Didier Pliny.
33:45
Speaker 1: I started making notes like he was going to come
33:47
Speaker 1: out of the game at the end of the eighth.
33:50
Speaker 1: I think everyone, including the beat guys, they were in
33:52
Speaker 1: the building. I think everyone was appropriately surprised when he
33:55
Speaker 1: was staying in the game to pitch the ninth. Did
33:58
Speaker 1: you have a problem with that? Were you afraid? Obviously,
34:03
Speaker 1: he looks so good that it's hard to be super
34:05
Speaker 1: mad about it, but what did you think about that decision?
34:07
Speaker 2: I like the idea of Didier going back out there.
34:10
Speaker 2: I didn't think they were going to do it because
34:11
Speaker 2: of the stress and the three ups and three downs
34:14
Speaker 2: that he had done. But he had been so efficient,
34:17
Speaker 2: the Dodgers were not hitting him. And as long as
34:19
Speaker 2: Rysel Iglesias was ready to go at the absolute first
34:22
Speaker 2: sign of danger, I did not hate it.
34:25
Speaker 1: Where were you at with that? I, yeah, first sign
34:32
Speaker 1: of danger was appropriate. I would have probably taken him out,
34:36
Speaker 1: just to be honest. I didn't, but I didn't hate it.
34:38
Speaker 1: I wasn't like getting my rant together. If things, you
34:42
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like the only reason why I
34:44
Speaker 1: would have taken him out is that he's just, he's
34:46
Speaker 1: just not used to was last time he threw into a,
34:48
Speaker 1: into a fourth inning. Like, I know he, I know
34:50
Speaker 1: he's a starter by trade, but this, he's been a
34:53
Speaker 1: reliever all year long. Like he's not had that kind
34:55
Speaker 1: of workload in this spot. Like I was a little
34:57
Speaker 1: worried that wheels might come off. And he did allow
35:00
Speaker 1: a home run, but the only reason why I wasn't,
35:03
Speaker 1: at all bothered is that he had been, it was
35:05
Speaker 1: literally night up, night down. There was zero drama. He
35:07
Speaker 1: looked incredible. And if you feel like he has his
35:10
Speaker 1: stuff still, it's fine.
35:13
Speaker 2: They also had, let's say that right. So Iglesias goes
35:16
Speaker 2: out there and you take Didier out and you immediately
35:19
Speaker 2: go to Iglesias and Iglesias gets in trouble. They had
35:23
Speaker 2: virtually nobody who you would want anything to do in
35:26
Speaker 2: a ninth inning as a fallback option. Like you're talking like,
35:30
Speaker 2: like when Suter or, I mean, Dodd threw all those
35:32
Speaker 2: pitches yesterday. Dodd would have been down.
35:34
Speaker 1: He was unavailable.
35:35
Speaker 2: Victor Medeiros. Suter Medeiros, like Richie. I do wonder if
35:42
Speaker 2: in the back of Walt's mind, part of his thought
35:44
Speaker 2: was maybe it's greedy.
35:46
Speaker 1: Maybe it's reckless.
35:47
Speaker 2: This is not something Didier has done basically ever all
35:49
Speaker 2: year long in the bullpen. But if I send him
35:52
Speaker 2: out there and I have Rysel ready to go, that
35:56
Speaker 2: was probably a preferable outcome for him. Then, then the
35:59
Speaker 2: alternative of rice cell goes out there. He runs into trouble.
36:02
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, Victor Medeiros is warming up
36:04
Speaker 2: in the bullpen, which I don't think anybody wants to
36:06
Speaker 2: see in a close game in the ninth inning of
36:08
Speaker 2: Dodger stadium.
36:10
Speaker 1: No. And honestly, earlier in the game, when the Holmes
36:17
Speaker 1: Lee sequence happened, I was looking at my watch, so
36:21
Speaker 1: to speak. I mean that figuratively to be like, how
36:23
Speaker 1: are they going to get these extra outs? because, and
36:27
Speaker 1: the reality was, it was, Oh, they're going to get
36:29
Speaker 1: 11 out from Didier Fuentes. That was what happened to
36:31
Speaker 1: change things. But a lot of people that were, you know,
36:34
Speaker 1: more analytically inclined, I'm thinking like, are they going to
36:36
Speaker 1: have to use someone that I don't want them to
36:38
Speaker 1: use because of what happened with Holmes and Lee? I
36:41
Speaker 1: was like, are they, are they going to try to
36:42
Speaker 1: get an, an, an ending from Medeiros or try to
36:45
Speaker 1: get an ending for Britt Suter or some like, but
36:48
Speaker 1: the solution was in this particular spot, Didier was just awesome.
36:52
Speaker 1: And that bailed them out. Um, And look, he allows
36:55
Speaker 1: the home run to Muncie. That's not, I mean, he
36:58
Speaker 1: got beat by one pitch. It's not a big deal.
37:00
Speaker 2: It wasn't even a bad pitch. It was just, I mean,
37:02
Speaker 2: that's a max Muncie hit that Homer. Sometimes pitchers throw Homer.
37:07
Speaker 2: Sometimes hitters hit Homer's. That was a max Muncie hit
37:10
Speaker 2: home run. It was, it was 97, 98 miles an hour,
37:13
Speaker 2: lower outside third of the plate. Muncie just went down
37:15
Speaker 2: and got it. If it was a pitch away, it's
37:18
Speaker 2: a shame that Didier wasn't able to be on the
37:19
Speaker 2: mound to wrap those four final innings. But, Credit to
37:22
Speaker 2: Rysell Iglesias who came in and made very quick work
37:25
Speaker 2: of an, of a talented, but inexperienced rookie who was the.
37:29
Speaker 1: Final out tonight.
37:31
Speaker 2: Yeah.
37:32
Speaker 1: Shostak Iglesias for staying ready. I mean, I saw, it
37:37
Speaker 1: was weird that it wasn't Iglesias of the night. So
37:39
Speaker 1: I think there was some like, wait, is, is, is
37:41
Speaker 1: Rysell okay? Like, cause he hadn't been used and it
37:44
Speaker 1: was like, no. And then, and then they, they, they
37:46
Speaker 1: showed him in the, on the broadcast in the bullpen.
37:48
Speaker 3: Okay.
37:48
Speaker 1: As long as he's up, and everything he's still moving
37:51
Speaker 1: around he's still he didn't like hurt himself in the
37:53
Speaker 1: bullpen or something crazy i had to be very bravesy
37:55
Speaker 1: if that were to happen uh late in a uh
37:58
Speaker 1: just bryce was feeling something in his arm in the
38:00
Speaker 1: in the bullpen um hey it worked out they covered
38:04
Speaker 1: 27 outs with the bullpen whoo um all right scott
38:09
Speaker 1: let us take one more break and then let's look
38:12
Speaker 1: ahead to uh game three and there's a day off
38:15
Speaker 1: in between so there's plenty to talk about between now
38:17
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38:18
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38:25
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38:29
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38:54
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, the series is it was always moving along,
38:56
Speaker 1: but now it's moving along in more upbeat fashion for us.
39:01
Speaker 1: Game three set for Tuesday back in Atlanta. Hopefully a
39:07
Speaker 1: jam packed Truist Park. Game three, for the record, is
39:11
Speaker 1: at 6 p.m. Eastern time on FS1 and Fox 1.
39:17
Speaker 1: I had someone ask me today why it's at six o'clock.
39:20
Speaker 1: Number one, that's better than two o'clock. So I'll take it.
39:23
Speaker 1: Number two, it's because the Padres are playing at home
39:27
Speaker 1: and the Padres are in San Diego. So they're playing.
39:30
Speaker 1: at like nine, nine 30, something like that. And we're
39:33
Speaker 1: not gonna do this right right now. Baseball has decided
39:35
Speaker 1: not to overlap games. So that's why the Braves are
39:37
Speaker 1: at six and the Padres are at nine 30. At
39:40
Speaker 1: any rate, our friends at FS1 and Fox one have
39:44
Speaker 1: the game. Let's take a second now and talk about
39:47
Speaker 1: a little bit about this. So, We kind of eschewed
39:50
Speaker 1: the Chris Sale conversation for the most part earlier. The
39:54
Speaker 1: positive thing is that he's still available for game three.
39:57
Speaker 1: Walt Weiss got asked about Chris Sale in the pregame
40:01
Speaker 1: press conference today. He said Sale predictably wanted the ball today.
40:06
Speaker 1: And basically they had to tell him no. I don't
40:09
Speaker 1: envy Walt Weiss for having to tell him no. That
40:10
Speaker 1: would have been an interesting conversation to have with Chris Sale.
40:14
Speaker 1: But also he got questions about like, is he hurt?
40:16
Speaker 2: No.
40:16
Speaker 1: Is he sore?
40:17
Speaker 2: No.
40:19
Speaker 1: Great. So I assume Chris Sale is good to go.
40:22
Speaker 1: He was in the dugout eating sunflower seeds on camera
40:25
Speaker 1: during the game. Seed to be fine to me. And
40:27
Speaker 1: with all that behind us now, Chris Sale in game
40:30
Speaker 1: three at home, I feel pretty darn good about Chris
40:32
Speaker 1: Sale against anybody. I know Yamamoto is awesome. He's the
40:35
Speaker 1: opposing pitcher. Yamamoto is a World Series hero in his
40:38
Speaker 1: own right. I'll take Chris Sale. I'm fine.
40:41
Speaker 2: Yeah. This was the calculated gamble of all calculated gambles
40:46
Speaker 2: from the Braves with potentially their season on the line
40:50
Speaker 2: and to get through tonight with a bullpen game. And
40:52
Speaker 2: now to be able to give sale two extra days
40:55
Speaker 2: of rest too, which is not a small thing. Also
40:59
Speaker 2: in theory, if you were to get to a game five,
41:02
Speaker 2: we should note. So sale, if he started game two
41:05
Speaker 2: sale could have probably started game five on normal rest.
41:09
Speaker 2: That's the way it would have lined up.
41:11
Speaker 1: Right.
41:11
Speaker 2: Am I correct? No, no, no.
41:12
Speaker 1: If it was two.
41:13
Speaker 3: Yeah.
41:14
Speaker 2: If it was game two starter, he would have been
41:16
Speaker 2: on normal rest in game five.
41:17
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes.
41:18
Speaker 1: You're right. Calendars, they're tough.
41:20
Speaker 2: But because of this now, you have guaranteed that Sale
41:23
Speaker 2: would not probably start Game 5, although he would probably
41:27
Speaker 2: be in the mix to pitch an inning or two
41:29
Speaker 2: or three in some kind of capacity. Carpet for the horse.
41:32
Speaker 2: Let's win the next two games. We won't have to
41:34
Speaker 2: think about Game 5. You'll line him up for Game
41:36
Speaker 2: 1 of the NLCS. But just for all of the
41:39
Speaker 2: consternation today, it was all people were talking about. Would
41:43
Speaker 2: Chris Sale start? Would he not start? Why? They have...
41:47
Speaker 2: gambled correctly and they have given themselves the best chance
41:50
Speaker 2: to win the series, which is two home games with
41:53
Speaker 2: your two best pitchers set to go.
41:56
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it was a gamble. I already admitted
41:59
Speaker 1: I didn't, I didn't love it. And I, I, you know, it,
42:03
Speaker 1: it worked. It's fine. Part of the, part of the reason, well,
42:07
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to look ahead. Part of
42:08
Speaker 1: the reason is I thought that sale was the best
42:10
Speaker 1: chance to win today's game, which might've still been true,
42:13
Speaker 1: but they won anyway. So that's good. The other part
42:15
Speaker 1: is what you just said. The fact that he could
42:17
Speaker 1: have maybe started at full capacity two games in the series.
42:22
Speaker 1: And now he's not going to start game five at
42:25
Speaker 1: full capacity. Maybe he, look, Chris Dale's a dog. If
42:27
Speaker 1: they let him pitch game five, if we get there,
42:29
Speaker 1: he probably could go. It'll be on short rest and
42:31
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're going to get. But yeah,
42:34
Speaker 1: I think that you're putting a lot of emphasis. I mean,
42:37
Speaker 1: the downside, if you want to say, is that you're
42:40
Speaker 1: putting a lot on game three. This whole plan puts
42:43
Speaker 1: a lot on winning game three. And I feel good
42:46
Speaker 1: about that with Chris Sale on the mound. But it
42:47
Speaker 1: is that you have to– I shouldn't say have to.
42:50
Speaker 1: You can still win the series, but if you lose
42:51
Speaker 1: game three. But it's a pretty big game. They're all
42:55
Speaker 1: big this time of year, but when you specifically decide
42:58
Speaker 1: to hold your ace, you've got to hope to win
43:01
Speaker 1: that one. Tyler Mallee might back up in game four.
43:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and it also might give– it gives Mallee
43:07
Speaker 2: an extra day of rest. And he threw a lot
43:09
Speaker 2: of pitches. He was so good against the Phillies, but
43:11
Speaker 2: he did have that scary– like abdominal issue before the game. And,
43:15
Speaker 2: you know, it seems like he's fine. He's obviously he's
43:17
Speaker 2: on the roster. It sure seems like he's in line
43:19
Speaker 2: to pitch game four now, but by pushing sale back
43:22
Speaker 2: to game three, it does give Malley an extra day of,
43:25
Speaker 2: of rest and recovery. And hopefully he's able to go
43:27
Speaker 2: out there and pitch really well. I know the broadcast
43:29
Speaker 2: tonight said that Malley has pitched spectacularly against the Dodgers
43:33
Speaker 2: the past couple of years. So hopefully that keeps going.
43:35
Speaker 2: And look, man, if Brad, if you would have told
43:37
Speaker 2: me 48 hours ago that the Braves were going to
43:41
Speaker 2: be going home to Atlanta and with Chris Sale and
43:44
Speaker 2: Tyler Malley lined up, and you have a chance to
43:47
Speaker 2: win the series at home in Game 4. That is
43:51
Speaker 2: absolute best-case scenario, best outcome imaginable. I mean, sure, you
43:55
Speaker 2: could have won the first two games in L.A., and
43:57
Speaker 2: it would be.
43:58
Speaker 1: A fairy tale.
43:59
Speaker 2: But, yeah, the fact that they have been able to
44:01
Speaker 2: win one of these two games in L.A. and now
44:03
Speaker 2: have Sale and Malley around the corner is all you
44:06
Speaker 2: can ask for.
44:08
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44:45
Speaker 1: All right, Scott. We've arrived. Game three's on the horizon.
44:53
Speaker 1: We should say our coverage plan is that we will
44:58
Speaker 1: have a game three dedicated preview episode that will drop
45:01
Speaker 1: on Monday evening at some point with Sean and Steven.
45:04
Speaker 1: I know people are clamoring for Sean and Steven. They're
45:07
Speaker 1: coming Monday night. Stay tuned. You will hear the loudest
45:11
Speaker 1: welcome you've ever heard at the top of the podcast.
45:13
Speaker 1: It's coming. Sean's excited. I had to physically restrain Sean
45:16
Speaker 1: from crashing through the wall at the Kool-Aid man to
45:19
Speaker 1: join us on this podcast tonight. I might be kidding.
45:21
Speaker 1: I might not be kidding. You guys don't know. But
45:25
Speaker 1: I have one. I don't want to. I wanted to
45:26
Speaker 1: end the Fox one segment. We I want to go
45:29
Speaker 1: back to three days ago or two days ago. You
45:31
Speaker 1: and I, we both said. Get a split in Los Angeles.
45:36
Speaker 2: Yes.
45:38
Speaker 1: Obviously, we would have loved to have both wins. But
45:40
Speaker 1: getting a split in Los Angeles was the realistic goal.
45:44
Speaker 1: And every time we say that, I do the same
45:47
Speaker 1: thing in basketball too. Fans will be like, don't you
45:49
Speaker 1: want to win all the games? It's like, guys, I'm
45:51
Speaker 1: not on the team. The team's not thinking get a split.
45:54
Speaker 1: They want to win every single game. I am sitting
45:57
Speaker 1: in this computer chair and objectively speaking from a 10,000-foot view,
46:01
Speaker 1: getting a split in Los Angeles, by the way, without
46:04
Speaker 1: using Chris Sale, which we didn't know at the time,
46:07
Speaker 1: It feels even better. If it had been a split
46:09
Speaker 1: with Chris Sale, it would have been fine with me.
46:11
Speaker 1: Split without Chris Sale, you feel great. We talked about
46:15
Speaker 1: Calshi earlier. The numbers are going in the right direction
46:17
Speaker 1: compared to where they were yesterday. Getting a win does that.
46:20
Speaker 1: And now, look, this is the oldest Trope match, but
46:23
Speaker 1: it's a best of three now, and you have home
46:26
Speaker 1: field advantage. Yep. That's where we are.
46:30
Speaker 2: Yep, and you've lined up your pitching well. the best
46:33
Speaker 2: of your ability. Now, Yamamoto is really, really good. And
46:36
Speaker 2: he was a postseason legend. So unfortunately, there's no Aaron
46:40
Speaker 2: Nola around the corner for us to try to take
46:42
Speaker 2: advantage of. And then Tyler Glass now is expected to
46:46
Speaker 2: start game four. We'll see if the Braves can win
46:48
Speaker 2: game three, maybe Scooble pitches on short rest in that one.
46:51
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see.
46:53
Speaker 2: But regardless, you know, Glass now is really good.
46:55
Speaker 1: When he's healthy too.
46:56
Speaker 2: So there's not going to be a walk in the park.
46:58
Speaker 2: We please, you know, we're not, we're not saying the
47:01
Speaker 2: Braves got to keep Locking in. And the offense needs
47:04
Speaker 2: to be better. You know, hopefully at home, we saw
47:06
Speaker 2: the offense come to life in Game 3 of the
47:08
Speaker 2: wildcard round. Keep hitting for power. You know the Dodgers
47:11
Speaker 2: are going to be ready to roll. This is a
47:12
Speaker 2: team that's played so many playoff games over the years. Yeah,
47:15
Speaker 2: they're probably frustrated they lost tonight, but they're going, look,
47:18
Speaker 2: we just got to win one out of two in Atlanta,
47:20
Speaker 2: and then we come back to our place with our
47:22
Speaker 2: pitching lined up against what would be another bullpen game
47:25
Speaker 2: for the Braves.
47:25
Speaker 1: So, just.
47:27
Speaker 2: Game three, this is a no-shit Sherlock, but game three
47:31
Speaker 2: in a best-of-three is going to be so important for
47:34
Speaker 2: both teams. Chris Sale, let's go, extra rest. Your bullpen, too,
47:40
Speaker 2: should be good to go. They may try to avoid
47:42
Speaker 2: Didier Fuentes in game three unless they really feel like
47:46
Speaker 2: they need him, but the fact is you have the
47:50
Speaker 2: off day, and who else do you trust? Maybe they've
47:53
Speaker 2: been real delicate with Robert Suarez with his elbow. Dylan
47:56
Speaker 2: Lee has kind of fallen out of the circle of trust.
47:59
Speaker 2: I would like to think Dylan Dodd will be in
48:00
Speaker 2: the mix for some high leverage innings. So maybe we
48:03
Speaker 2: will see more of Diddy, or I don't know if
48:04
Speaker 2: he's going to go four innings again, but just a,
48:08
Speaker 2: and look, if you were in the Atlanta area and
48:11
Speaker 2: you can get tickets, or maybe you already have tickets,
48:13
Speaker 2: I need that place jumping on Tuesday night, whatever. I
48:17
Speaker 2: know it was up to an 11 turned up to
48:19
Speaker 2: an 11 against the Phillies for game three. I need
48:21
Speaker 2: it just like that very first pitch of the game
48:23
Speaker 2: needs to be electric and make it as tough of
48:25
Speaker 2: a home field advantage as you can possibly have, and
48:28
Speaker 2: see where the ball goes. And if the Braves can
48:31
Speaker 2: shock the world and win the next two games and
48:33
Speaker 2: dethrone the Dodgers and eliminate those guys for the first
48:36
Speaker 2: time in three years effectively, it would be quite the story.
48:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that it will help the crowd
48:43
Speaker 1: as an Atlanta native that they're playing the Dodgers because
48:45
Speaker 1: there is– it may not be the same as the Phillies,
48:47
Speaker 1: but there is some Dodgers animus there. I think part
48:50
Speaker 1: of the reason why it was so electric the other
48:51
Speaker 1: day is that the Phillies are hated in Atlanta, which
48:54
Speaker 1: definitely helps the crowd. The Dodgers are not quite on
48:57
Speaker 1: that level, but the Dodgers are not well-liked in Atlanta.
48:59
Speaker 1: That's just what's obvious for obvious reasons. So one more
49:02
Speaker 1: note about your home away splits and visions about the offense.
49:07
Speaker 1: I'll just say in the regular season, I looked it
49:09
Speaker 1: up just now, the Braves had an OPS 62 points
49:13
Speaker 1: higher at home than on the road. They were a
49:17
Speaker 1: top 10 office at home. They were not that on
49:20
Speaker 1: the road. So if they can get some, get some
49:23
Speaker 1: more runs, everybody would feel a lot better. More than
49:25
Speaker 1: three would be good for game three. Although if you
49:27
Speaker 1: give Chris sale three, I feel pretty good about that too.
49:30
Speaker 1: I have to be honest about that. All right, Scott,
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Speaker 1: we've done enough. I think it's 1231 Eastern time. As
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Speaker 1: Let's keep it up. Let's keep growing and also stick
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Speaker 1: around for the future as well. It'd be awesome. Scott,
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Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. It's still Sunday for you. Congratulations
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Speaker 1: out there on the West Coast.
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Speaker 2: I've got to say, Brad, I have done this podcast
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Speaker 2: under incredible duress. There is a mosquito flying around me
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Speaker 2: for the last 55 minutes. I mean, I don't want
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Speaker 2: to start clapping trying to kill this MF-er because it
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Speaker 2: would be awful audio. But trying to do a podcast
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Speaker 2: when I like five times he's flown across my computer screen.
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Speaker 2: It's driving me insane. So shouts to me, shouts to
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Speaker 2: Ray Kerr, shouts to Didier Fuentes, shouts to Michael Harris.
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Speaker 2: Really great win tonight. You've evened the series. You've given
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Speaker 2: yourself a chance. And let's go write some fun storylines
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Speaker 2: back home in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: And the Colts won today. Congrats to you on that.
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Speaker 1: They did. We'll leave it there for now. All right, everybody.
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