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Visit Florence, Italy with Martina from SunFlorence Tours · Travel Mug Podcast

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  hello everyone and welcome back to the Travel Mug Podcast this week we are so excited to be joined by Martina Arezzini.
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  Martina, a tour guide extraordinaire in florence, Italy Martina's Tour Company SunFlorence Tours offers a variety of tours in Florence and surrounding areas, and we are confident you will find one that matches your interest.
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  Among other things, Martina has a focus on history, wine, famous local families, food and local markets.
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  We are so excited to discuss your background, your business, and your tour options.
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  So welcome to the show, Martina.
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  Thank you so much.
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  I'm so excited to meet you.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you.
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  So our first question, uh, you grew up in Tuscany, to us Canadians, and I'm sure many people around the world listening, that sounds magical.
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  Talk to us about growing up in Tuscany and what was that was like and how did that sort of help shape you as a person going out into the world after that?
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  Yeah, living in Tuscany, it's like living in a timeless place.
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  It's like living in a painting.
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  That's really true.
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  We wake up and we are surrounded by beauty.
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  So I'm very lucky.
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  I'm glad that I lived in, I grew up in Tuscany.
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  I actually grew up in the province of Siena, which is the southern part of Tuscany, which is the very famous, uh, Val d'Orcia area.
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  Very famous for wine.
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  Then I moved to Florence, uh, 15, 17 years ago already.
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  So, I mean, still a very good city in Tuscany, and, I think this shaped me as a person who likes, a slow life.
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  Uh, we, we love the very small things of life, like, uh, enjoying glass of wines and, um, we have a deep connection with nature, with good food, with the changing of the seasons.
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  So we always wait for the, that specific fruit which comes in june and then we wait for the next June to get that same, you know, October we have chestnuts.
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  So we love these things and, uh, the history, the people, I think this is, very important for my job.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It sounds magical and it's, it sounds so different from way of life here in Canada, and it honestly sounds like, uh, yeah, like magical, like we said already.
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  I was actually secretly hoping you be like, well, it was just a regular growing up, et but it, it does sound as dreamy as I thought.
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  Yeah, we.
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  I think smaller, it's the key word.
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  'cause we have, uh, like, uh, small classes when we go to school, we have classes that are like 15, 20 maximum people.
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  Um, you know, everybody, it's a small village.
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  I grew up in a village, which is 6,000 inhabitants.
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  It is like a family and, uh, we all know each other.
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  Then, uh, you know, uh, in my, in my town for example, uh, there was a kind
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  of siesta, like at 1: 30, everybody close.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And they go home.
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  of siesta, like at 1: They have lunch together.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I grew up having lunch with my family, with my parents, and also with my grandparents and then everybody back to work, me doing my homework and then preparing to go to school the next day.
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  of siesta, like at 1: We had very good air, like, uh, fresh air.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Uh, the landscapes are magical.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I live close to a mountain, which is in the southern part of Tuscany Amiata.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So we have hot springs.
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  of siesta, like at 1: That's.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Oh, Interesting.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So we have a group of friends since we are a child.
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  of siesta, like at 1: We grew up like that.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And then I moved to Florence.
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  of siesta, like at 1: It felt like a countryside, small town person moving in a to New York.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Wow.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Big doors, big buildings.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And now I know that it's not, not building not big was like, wow.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Huge door Renaissance policies, big buildings.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Um, there's a stadium, you know, and, uh, SÌ, it felt like moving into a big town.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I moved for the university.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Right, right.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Well that leads very well, I mean into the next question as well, because your education history is super interesting.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So you graduated with languages, literature, and international studies, and later earned a degree in European and American languages and literature.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Your research focused on gender studies and South American women's literature and eventually led to you teaching Spanish and English in Italian high schools.
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  of siesta, like at 1: what was that experience of teaching like for you and how do you feel if it did that that helped lead you toward a career of being a tour guide and teaching tourists about your home country and your history of your country?
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  of siesta, like at 1: Absolutely.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I, I'm that kind of person who always wanted to be a tour guide.
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  of siesta, like at 1: You know, sometimes tour guiding, it's a plan B for somebody.
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  of siesta, like at 1: It was like my dream, um, because, uh, since I, like three years old, four years old, I'm talking, talking, talking a lot in person and um, I think this was written in my destiny somehow because I didn't know what I wanted to do precisely.
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  of siesta, like at 1: But I always wanted to teach.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I love to teach at school.
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  of siesta, like at 1: My mom, she's a teacher.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I for a long time I thought I would be a professor.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I would teach, uh, but I didn't know what, like, um, I love, uh, literature, but I also love the foreign languages and I love art.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So somehow everything was settled because, uh, now it's what I do, like I teach using art, And talking foreign languages.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So it's perfect because I love to work with tourists.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I meet everyday different, uh, different people, honestly.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Um, before when there were less people in tour, Florence and tour guides were mainly working half of the year.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So that's why I wanted to teach.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I wanted to teach half a year, and then I wanted to be a tour guide for half a year.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Um, I spent few years teaching and, um, the experience is, um, SÌ very challenging but also rewarding.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So you can construct relation with students that last for longer than the relation that you build with a person which is visiting friends for one day and leaving.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So it's very.
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  of siesta, like at 1: right.
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  of siesta, like at 1: you grew up, uh, you grew up together.
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  of siesta, like at 1: This is more satisfying.
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  of siesta, like at 1: But also, uh, talking with tourists that are, uh, obviously mother tongue.
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  of siesta, like at 1: , I mean, you learn more because, I mean, uh, I mainly speak Spanish.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So Spanish is my main language.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Well, Italian.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I'm Italian, but I've studied Spanish languages.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Um, Mm-hmm.
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  of siesta, like at 1: let's say teaching shaped my skills of changing, um, language or contents according to who's listening.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Obviously, if you have teenagers or if you have childrens in your tour, if adults or people that are, maybe they have a degree in history of art, it's very different the way you explain the way you talk.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So SÌ this, uh, train me to adjust according to the person maybe that I'm talking with.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And, um, I've studied South American's, uh, languages, especially literature written by women.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So this is because I always had this interest for different point, points of view.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I love to have more points of view, you know, and I love the point of view of people that usually are not, uh, um, so much, uh, they don't speak loud.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Okay.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So minor, usually women Yeah.
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  of siesta, like at 1: That's so interesting 'cause there's a word in literature.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I love that.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I think that it's really important, uh, as people that we take into account a lot of different points of view, and unfortunately some people don't, but it's really, I. Amazing to see you out there doing that.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So talk to us about what you had to do to become a tour guide.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Uh, was there any like education or training that you had to do before you became a tour guide?
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  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah, in Italy, uh, becoming a licensed tour guide, uh, requires passing a rigorous exam.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And, uh, Okay.
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  of siesta, like at 1: you need, um, extensive studies, you know, art history, archeology, local heritage, also food culture.
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  of siesta, like at 1: There's a lot to study.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So Yeah.
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  of siesta, like at 1: after the university, i, I, I've studied for one year for being prepared, for passing the exam.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So when I took the exam, uh, it was a big, long exam.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Uh, we, it's, it requires a big, big preparation.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Um, and then I became a tour guide.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I was already a tour leader.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Okay.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I also passed the exam for being tour leader before being tour guide because, uh, uh, it was easier because, uh, I did at university two different foreign languages.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So I just had to do an upgrade of that, passing an exam, and I became , A tour leader.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Tour guiding is much more difficult of course, because you need to explain and to know a lot.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So luckily there's an exam.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Because this is guaranteeing when you have the license that the guide knows what's talking about.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And Italy, there's a lot to talk about.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So luckily we have exams that are guaranteeing you, that you're licensed.
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  of siesta, like at 1: SÌ the preparation was demanding, but it is also incredibly rewarding.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, it gave me a solid foundation to speak, , with both knowledge and patient as well.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I think that's also great though for people who are coming to Italy and want to do tours with licensed tour guides.
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  of siesta, like at 1: You know, you're getting the history, the good information, people that actually have a true interest and have made it their career, not someone I. Who has just decided a few weeks ago, this is what they'd like to do.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So they'll give you a tour, but you've really put the hard work in and, and it really makes, uh, it's a high industry standard it sounds like.
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  of siesta, like at 1: We are struggling against, um.
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  of siesta, like at 1: illegal tour guides, of course.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Uh, because in Italy you can imagine for a long time, the exam was not available.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Now there will be a new exam soon.
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  of siesta, like at 1: We still don't know.
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  of siesta, like at 1: It's a state exam, so people are studying a lot and, uh, getting ready a lot.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, if you don't want to be a tour guide, uh, I mean it's, it's easy to not take the exam of course.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So Sure.
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  of siesta, like at 1: if you, I mean, you don't really want to be a tool guide.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Um, that, that's why it's, it's important that you have patience because it's really difficult to get the license.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So, uh, whoever has the license, it means that it passed through all these steps.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So it's guaranteeing that you are, will find a person which is, uh, passionate and knowledgeable.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah.
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  of siesta, like at 1: That's amazing.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So, , after you've passed the exam, uh, how long it take you to create your company?
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  of siesta, like at 1: , SunFlorence Tours?
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  of siesta, like at 1: How did that come about?
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  of siesta, like at 1: And do you provide all of the tours?
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  of siesta, like at 1: Do you have a team?
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  of siesta, like at 1: How does that work?
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  of siesta, like at 1: Yes.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Let's say when I, uh, started at the beginning,, it was just me.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Um, I decided to do private tours.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Before, there were many more group tours before covid.
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  of siesta, like at 1: There's still group tours, but I think after Covid people, they really understood the importance of slowing down a little bit and having more space and not being in a group of 50 people.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So I was already working, organizing my private tours., I was working as a tour guide for other companies as well.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And then step through Instagram especially, and also.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Through my, my webpage and, uh, contacts.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I developed my own, um, clients.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I mean that they contact me.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So I have my own clients and I have my, my own tours.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I also have.
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  of siesta, like at 1: More tours than the ones I can manage.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So now I have guides and colleagues that are sometimes, uh, helping me.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And, uh, last year I also, uh, took the qualification for being a technical director, which means that, uh, to open the agency.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So now we are Oh wow.
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  of siesta, like at 1: working on, on it.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Congratulations.
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  of siesta, like at 1: That's amazing.
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  of siesta, like at 1: If things are, things are moving quickly.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Thank you.
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  of siesta, like at 1: See, so step by step and, uh, basically SunFlorence uh, is, is going through from an idea to share the real living Florence because with other agency I was mainly working in Duomo, Uffizi.
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  of siesta, like at 1: You for sure know David, that very handsome guy, but wants to see, which is wonderful.
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  of siesta, like at 1: But I really wanted to show the secret places, secret things.
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  of siesta, like at 1: To show how we live and, uh, that's the idea.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So yes, I organized tour in the museum, which I love, but I also organize, uh, customized tour.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah, I love that idea because yes, you could definitely want to see the things that everyone knows about, but I always feel like a tour or experience is much more special if it's sort of like an inside scoop or places that not everyone goes to.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So I think that that makes it very special.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So that's really great.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Now, I discovered you and your tour company through your videos with Harold Balder.
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  of siesta, like at 1: My husband and I have watched his videos for years now.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So my burning question is how did you come to know Harold and what impact do you feel this has had on your tour business?
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  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, I, I, uh, I'm happy to know you through that, so this is definitely part of that.
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  of siesta, like at 1: But I'd love to know sort of how he found you or you found him, or how that came to be, and then what effects that has had.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Well, uh, it change my, my life, my career absolutely.
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  of siesta, like at 1: It's obviously one of the most important moment of my, my career.
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  of siesta, like at 1: 'cause when he found me, I was working with, um, other tour agencies, tour companies, and uh, I, I had few private clients also.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Some tips, some private clients coming from my page and he's the one, one of this person who came, uh, through the page.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I think, uh, Okay.
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  of siesta, like at 1: we met, um, in 2019 in Florence, and I had no idea of who.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Another random clients.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And that was not even my best day in my, in that summer because I was not even feeling so well.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So he asked me if he could record the tour and I say, no, no, you cannot record the tour.
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  of siesta, like at 1: First of all, I'm shy.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, um.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I've never done something like that.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So now step by step, I'm more comfortable.
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  of siesta, like at 1: But at the beginning, I had the camera right here and I didn't know who was him, why he wanted to record the tour.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And especially before Covid, it was not so normal to record the information because there was the idea of, if I tell the things, why would you buy a tour?
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  of siesta, like at 1: So Mm-hmm.
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  of siesta, like at 1: An, an old way of thinking.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So I was one of the first person recording things and spreading knowledge around.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So obviously it was something new.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I said, no, you cannot record information, especially inside the town or within the special permission.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And I said, no, but I want record information about, uh, what does it mean being a tour guide, okay.
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  of siesta, like at 1: About me.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And I actually haven't explained like I do in a tour.
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  of siesta, like at 1: For me, it was weird because I was talking about me.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, I think about the town hall or city hall, and then he gave me this huge tip.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And I thought, okay, maybe it's just for the video, or, I didn't want to be tipped because I knew, I knew that I could do, I had to do more.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, I had to explain the building.
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  of siesta, like at 1: He did not let me explain the building, so I just wanted to go away and, um, I gave him, I, I wanted to give him back the money.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And then he, uh, basically obliged me to accept he wanted to tip me.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So I said, okay, I will accept this money if you let me do other tour.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So then we did also the market tour, which is the very famous video where he's preparing the bunny with the tripe, Yes.
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  of siesta, like at 1: him cooking and eating tripe.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And then we kept in touch a lot, uh, especially after Covid because lots of people arrived and then pandemic.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So then he came back and when he came back, uh, I was already working a lot with my private clients, thanks to him.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And he brought lots of people to me.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So it's really made me independent from my agency and I could develop more tour and people were trusting me more'cause they, uh, watched the video.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And, uh, I have to say that the greatest client came from him.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I always have like, uh, young people and solo travelers or couples, people that love to travel open-minded.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Then we did Rome.
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  of siesta, like at 1: He came back.
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  of siesta, like at 1: When he came back, we were supposed to do, uh, Florence and Naples.
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  of siesta, like at 1: He said Naples at the beginning.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Then the day Harold is like, um, a very knowledgeable, curious person.
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  of siesta, like at 1: He knows a lot, very interesting.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And um, but he has millions of ideas.
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  of siesta, like at 1: He was, and then we finished in Florence, um, full day, uh, was about to go home and said, okay, so we go to Roma Rome, study Naples.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So I had to study like Naples and I tried to study the entire city of Rome in one night.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And you cannot study the entire city of Rome in one night.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Yes, I can.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So, but then it was just, uh, touring with a friend.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, now is there, I I, I know Rome, I, I know its other cities, but I'm based in Florence of course.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So when there's tours, I can obviously suggest my colleagues in Rome.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Right.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Trusted colleagues in Rome and um, obviously, , whenever I have another request that I send people to my dear colleagues there, or it's, it's usually I work in Florence mainly, or in, in Tuscany, in general, Right, right, right.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I saw that video.
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  of siesta, like at 1: You did very well, so especially, he's it was holding him for breaking all the Italian etiquette with food.
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  of siesta, like at 1: Well, it is so funny that you say that because every time my husband and I have red wine, we stare at each other in the eyes as we're drinking it very intensely because we learned that from your video.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And then every time I have, I think it's a cappuccino, later in the day, I am like, we shouldn't be doing Thank you so much.
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  of siesta, like at 1: You're saving an Italian every time.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And Harold did it on purpose, of course, because he's, he doesn't follow anyone's rules apparently.
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  of siesta, like at 1: And then, but the staring in the eyes is we do it every Yeah.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So we have definitely learned that from you.
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  of siesta, like at 1: But I mean, your chemistry is also very good.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So yes, it happened organically and I think it's amazing that you did not know who he Yeah.
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  of siesta, like at 1: was just another client.
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  of siesta, like at 1: I think that's a, a beautiful start to that story, but also.
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  of siesta, like at 1: He's very playful and I think that that also brings that out in sort of you when you're with him as well.
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  of siesta, like at 1: So I think that the chemistry of the pair of you together was really good, and I think that's why it works, honestly.
• 19:57
  of siesta, like at 1: And that's why is really authentic.
• 20:01
  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, everything that you see happened, so, Yeah.
• 20:05
  of siesta, like at 1: there's not, um, erasing the video or parts or changing it's.
• 20:11
  of siesta, like at 1: His life, what you, what you see.
• 20:13
  of siesta, like at 1: It's real.
• 20:13
  of siesta, like at 1: So that's why to me, I, I started following him on YouTube and I, every video he publish, it's really amazing.
• 20:21
  of siesta, like at 1: Mm-hmm.
• 20:22
  of siesta, like at 1: It is.
• 20:22
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah, no, I agree.
• 20:24
  of siesta, like at 1: And you do have a wide variety of tour options as well.
• 20:27
  of siesta, like at 1: We've sort of alluded to that a little bit.
• 20:29
  of siesta, like at 1: So can you talk to us about how you developed your tour options?
• 20:33
  of siesta, like at 1: Because there are a lot of things that people can choose from, so I'd love to hear sort of how that process came to be.
• 20:38
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah.
• 20:38
  of siesta, like at 1: I started with classic tours.
• 20:40
  of siesta, like at 1: 'cause of course, for my information, I did, uh, many, many, many tours.
• 20:46
  of siesta, like at 1: Um, I met for the first time, uh, Harold in the duomo tours, the dome tour.
• 20:51
  of siesta, like at 1: I was climbing the dome three times per day for years.
• 20:55
  of siesta, like at 1: Then the academia david, with every day at least two, three times per day.
• 21:00
  of siesta, like at 1: But then with my private clients, as I told you, I was, uh, trying to, um, convince people to do kind of More particular experience to go out from the crowd, especially to find that little bar, little spot, little window where nobody goes.
• 21:18
  of siesta, like at 1: And um, I noticed that people actually are looking for more flexible, customized experiences.
• 21:24
  of siesta, like at 1: So then I shift to work around specific different interests that basically are my interests also.
• 21:32
  of siesta, like at 1: As you mentioned, I studied the woman literature, so books written by women, and the first tour I created was, um, great Woman of Florence Tour because, and you always mention names.
• 21:45
  of siesta, like at 1: We have so many names to mention, Lorenzo de' Medici, Leonardo, Botticelli, Michelangelo, but behind them, they were great women.
• 21:52
  of siesta, like at 1: The Medici families full of great women who made the history.
• 21:56
  of siesta, like at 1: Important and they created Florence as we have Florence now.
• 21:59
  of siesta, like at 1: So we have to mention these women.
• 22:01
  of siesta, like at 1: And uh, I noticed there were lots of women, but also lots of people that were interested in, um, hearing more about the story.
• 22:08
  of siesta, like at 1: So it's walking tour and we talk about the places dedicated to important women or art artists.
• 22:16
  of siesta, like at 1: Um, also we had, uh, incredible names, scientists, you know.
• 22:24
  of siesta, like at 1: Many names.
• 22:25
  of siesta, like at 1: Then also artisans.
• 22:26
  of siesta, like at 1: The artisans.
• 22:28
  of siesta, like at 1: , This was born as an interest of, um, showing to people what the real artisans do.
• 22:36
  of siesta, like at 1: So it's my community, it's my district, my my city.
• 22:40
  of siesta, like at 1: I love to, uh, show the real person.
• 22:43
  of siesta, like at 1: Not the scammers, but the person who really do that in their life for living.
• 22:48
  of siesta, like at 1: So how much they struggle to select the good quality, how much to guarantee good quality.
• 22:54
  of siesta, like at 1: How, how much they have with how much they have to know to, to learn, to be able to make a belt, you know?
• 23:03
  of siesta, like at 1: And so I wanna show this, which is less.
• 23:08
  of siesta, like at 1: Fancy, maybe because you don't go in a shop, but it's real.
• 23:12
  of siesta, like at 1: So that's how I developed, for example, this tour.
• 23:15
  of siesta, like at 1: It's a little different, but we go to talk to people that are friends that I trust and, uh, now friends took time and, uh, now trust.
• 23:24
  of siesta, like at 1: So they are happy to tell us what they, what they do, or the managed tour, maybe secrets everybody wants to hear about gossip, so I have a tour about the secret stories.
• 23:35
  of siesta, like at 1: Of course wine.
• 23:38
  of siesta, like at 1: I love to drink wine.
• 23:40
  of siesta, like at 1: I'm a wine guide and logic guide.
• 23:41
  of siesta, like at 1: I to connect some also for that.
• 23:43
  of siesta, like at 1: So being able to drink wine properly.
• 23:45
  of siesta, like at 1: And so I love to explain how to, not to ruin the flavor of wine, mixing it with the wrong food or see that's, um, every, everything comes to like, um, oh, we should do that.
• 23:57
  of siesta, like at 1: So.
• 23:59
  of siesta, like at 1: And if you're, but if you are interested in it, you are also going to be that much more passionate about it while you're talking to people.
• 24:06
  of siesta, like at 1: So it only makes sense that these are also your interests because if someone is telling me something and I can tell they don't really care about it, it takes away from that experience.
• 24:15
  of siesta, like at 1: So that's, so that makes sense.
• 24:18
  of siesta, like at 1: we make, we get angry.
• 24:20
  of siesta, like at 1: I mean.
• 24:23
  of siesta, like at 1: You know, it's fantastic.
• 24:25
  of siesta, like at 1: So, because if you don't believe that, it's fantastic.
• 24:28
  of siesta, like at 1: It's not fantastic.
• 24:30
  of siesta, like at 1: That's, Right.
• 24:31
  of siesta, like at 1: Right.
• 24:32
  of siesta, like at 1: the idea.
• 24:33
  of siesta, like at 1: Your, I mean, when I work also in the classic tour, Uffizi Gallery or David, I'm a love with David and I explain, David is like.
• 24:41
  of siesta, like at 1: I feel glad to be able to stay next to him and see him every day and explain him and talk about him.
• 24:49
  of siesta, like at 1: During, during covid.
• 24:50
  of siesta, like at 1: This happened a lot.
• 24:51
  of siesta, like at 1: Uh, when I was, uh, at home, uh, I really noticed how much I missed being surrounded by beauty because Hmm.
• 24:59
  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, I always work surrounded by beauty.
• 25:01
  of siesta, like at 1: That's a privilege.
• 25:02
  of siesta, like at 1: Even if I'm outside, there's the Duomo next to me or everything is so beautiful and that's a privilege.
• 25:08
  of siesta, like at 1: And, uh, if you don't believe it.
• 25:10
  of siesta, like at 1: It's useless that you tell to people what you, what you see, what you feel.
• 25:16
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 25:17
  of siesta, like at 1: So I'm wondering which of your tours are the most popular?
• 25:23
  of siesta, like at 1: Like which ones do people book the most?
• 25:25
  of siesta, like at 1: Well, the Medici tour, it's one of, uh, the most booked tour 'cause, uh, Medici are, you know, fascinating.
• 25:34
  of siesta, like at 1: This.
• 25:36
  of siesta, like at 1: Murder, homicides, money, and, uh, intrigues.
• 25:40
  of siesta, like at 1: So people are fascinated by the Medici family and also the classic tours, like, Uffizi and the academia are must, so Mm-hmm.
• 25:50
  of siesta, like at 1: everybody starts with an Uffizi tour or with an academia tour, especially if it's a first timer and then maybe they add an extra food tour or a wine tour or something else.
• 26:02
  of siesta, like at 1: Food tour also are really popular now.
• 26:05
  of siesta, like at 1: People, they love to drink.
• 26:07
  of siesta, like at 1: They love to eat, and.
• 26:10
  of siesta, like at 1: Yes.
• 26:12
  of siesta, like at 1: Is there a tour that you are a big fan of, that people should be booking more, but they're not?
• 26:18
  of siesta, like at 1: Do you think there's a tour people are missing out on?
• 26:21
  of siesta, like at 1: Yes, there's many.
• 26:24
  of siesta, like at 1: There's two museums in Florence, well, many more than two, but let's say two museums in Florence that people usually, they don't book so much, but are super interesting.
• 26:34
  of siesta, like at 1: For example, the Bargello Museum, which is an incredible place.
• 26:40
  of siesta, like at 1: It's the place where we had executions in medieval times.
• 26:43
  of siesta, like at 1: And so it's also the place where they were spending the last night before the execution.
• 26:47
  of siesta, like at 1: And it's full of Masterpiece by Donatello, Michelangelo, Verrocchio,.
• 26:52
  of siesta, like at 1: There's collections of, uh, ivory ceramic.
• 26:55
  of siesta, like at 1: weapons, it's so interesting and it's, um, one of the oldest building we have in Florence.
• 27:00
  of siesta, like at 1: We also, uh, churches like Santa Croce Church, they should book more at the church.
• 27:06
  of siesta, like at 1: It's incredible.
• 27:07
  of siesta, like at 1: It's the place where we have the tombs of The Italian glories, there's the tomb of Michelangelo.
• 27:13
  of siesta, like at 1: It's amazing.
• 27:15
  of siesta, like at 1: And um, maybe something about Dante.
• 27:18
  of siesta, like at 1: Dante's popular, but a walking tour about the places of Dante, the writer of the Divine Comedy should be booked more 'cause it's full of, but also full of history of course.
• 27:32
  of siesta, like at 1: Excellent.
• 27:33
  of siesta, like at 1: Well, I think that's important for people to, to understand what else is out there because I'm sure that there are some that people are always booking, but missing other good ones.
• 27:43
  of siesta, like at 1: And, already alluded to this, but just to reiterate, is there a particular tour you feel is best for first timers to your city?
• 27:52
  of siesta, like at 1: Yes, for the first timers, for sure.
• 27:55
  of siesta, like at 1: I always recommend, uh, my Love at First Sight tour, which is a walking tour.
• 28:01
  of siesta, like at 1: Kind of fast, one hour and 45 minutes, two hours, something like that.
• 28:05
  of siesta, like at 1: So not heavy at all.
• 28:06
  of siesta, like at 1: Little walking of the center where we explain the main, uh, sites of the center.
• 28:12
  of siesta, like at 1: But it's uh, like a great introduction to understand the city properly.
• 28:17
  of siesta, like at 1: We talk about the history of Florence, the main characters of Florence.
• 28:20
  of siesta, like at 1: The main place is in Florence and, uh, some curiosities.
• 28:24
  of siesta, like at 1: And obviously during the tour I also show them where to eat, what to eat.
• 28:29
  of siesta, like at 1: This is a terrific place.
• 28:30
  of siesta, like at 1: This is a local place and so some suggestions and especially we talk about what to do in the next days.
• 28:36
  of siesta, like at 1: So this is a great museum.
• 28:37
  of siesta, like at 1: These other things, this is, so the first thing you should do is this tour in this way.
• 28:42
  of siesta, like at 1: If you have more days, then you will have an idea of what to do in the next days without wasting time.
• 28:47
  of siesta, like at 1: Hmm.
• 28:48
  of siesta, like at 1: That's such a good idea to book this on your first And that's such a lot on the way usually.
• 28:53
  of siesta, like at 1: So.
• 28:56
  of siesta, like at 1: It's gelato is always a good idea.
• 28:58
  of siesta, like at 1: yeah.
• 28:59
  of siesta, like at 1: now to finish off the tours aspect of our chat, do you have, what's your favorite tour that you do?
• 29:08
  of siesta, like at 1: Well, I love, uh, ah, this is a hard question.
• 29:13
  of siesta, like at 1: I knew you were about to ask me this question because, uh, all the clients ask me this question, but I don't know.
• 29:19
  of siesta, like at 1: It's like saying, what's your favorite child?
• 29:22
  of siesta, like at 1: I think.
• 29:24
  of siesta, like at 1: Because, um, I love classic tours, but I also love the tours I created so much.
• 29:31
  of siesta, like at 1: Um, it's like, what's your favorite wine?
• 29:34
  of siesta, like at 1: That's not a favorite wine.
• 29:36
  of siesta, like at 1: It's the wine.
• 29:37
  of siesta, like at 1: It's good with what you eat with.
• 29:39
  of siesta, like at 1: So it depends on people in the group.
• 29:42
  of siesta, like at 1: Obviously I love treasure hunts with kids so much fun.
• 29:47
  of siesta, like at 1: I love to, when I have couples, I love to do the boat tour on the Arno River, so it's romantic.
• 29:55
  of siesta, like at 1: They enjoy the sunset and it's really relaxing.
• 30:00
  of siesta, like at 1: Uh, when I have people that are interested in history, I love to do Uffizi gallery.
• 30:06
  of siesta, like at 1: I love to spend like three hours in Uffizi Gallery with people listening to me.
• 30:10
  of siesta, like at 1: If they're not interested.
• 30:11
  of siesta, like at 1: Of course, I prefer to drink wine with them or to to other tours.
• 30:16
  of siesta, like at 1: So it's difficult.
• 30:17
  of siesta, like at 1: I don't think I have, um, a favorite tour.
• 30:21
  of siesta, like at 1: I have.
• 30:21
  of siesta, like at 1: I see that Yeah.
• 30:23
  of siesta, like at 1: it's hard to Complicated.
• 30:25
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah.
• 30:26
  of siesta, like at 1: So what do you want people to know about Florence and why should people choose to visit Florence when they're planning their trip to Italy?
• 30:35
  of siesta, like at 1: Florence is, um, an amazing city for sure.
• 30:40
  of siesta, like at 1: It's, um, still authentic.
• 30:42
  of siesta, like at 1: It's a city that is, um, obviously easy to love because as soon as you arrive, it feels like living in a painting.
• 30:50
  of siesta, like at 1: It's being surrounded by painting.
• 30:52
  of siesta, like at 1: I just finished a tour with a client that was like, uh, I don't believe this is real.
• 30:56
  of siesta, like at 1: He was saying when looking at the Duomo, like, um, a painting for, for sure.
• 31:04
  of siesta, like at 1: So in some, some way it's easy.
• 31:07
  of siesta, like at 1: To enjoy and to understand.
• 31:08
  of siesta, like at 1: But it's also difficult and it requires attention.
• 31:11
  of siesta, like at 1: You have to pay attention.
• 31:12
  of siesta, like at 1: You have to respect the city so much to understand the city.
• 31:16
  of siesta, like at 1: So now we are struggling with overt tourism and fast tourism Mm-hmm.
• 31:20
  of siesta, like at 1: So people, they should, um, in order to understand Florence and to enjoy Florence, they should stay a little bit more like at least three days, two nights minimum, because only in this way you will understand that there's a community of people that still defending the city of Florence and still loving the slow things in the city of Florence.
• 31:42
  of siesta, like at 1: So you will find only if you stay more and if you love the city, you will see people waking up, reading the newspaper, getting a cappuccino, and then going to work, and that's authentic and not in all the other.
• 31:55
  of siesta, like at 1: Watching some other cities, of course, of Italy, you, you can still find this, but uh, in Florence there is a community of artisans.
• 32:04
  of siesta, like at 1: There's a community of inhabitants And we should defend them because they're struggling a lot now with the prices that are higher apartments that are not findable.
• 32:14
  of siesta, like at 1: So I mean, it's real.
• 32:16
  of siesta, like at 1: Florence is real.
• 32:17
  of siesta, like at 1: That's why people, they should visit Florence Amazing.
• 32:20
  of siesta, like at 1: I that sold.
• 32:22
  of siesta, like at 1: I'll be there.
• 32:23
  of siesta, like at 1: I'll be there next.
• 32:24
  of siesta, like at 1: I'll be there next April, so I'll see you then.
• 32:26
  of siesta, like at 1: So.
• 32:26
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah.
• 32:27
  of siesta, like at 1: before I.
• 32:34
  of siesta, like at 1: So you were in Thailand yourself fairly recently.
• 32:38
  of siesta, like at 1: So talk to us about that adventure.
• 32:40
  of siesta, like at 1: What was the favorite part of your trip and had you been there before?
• 32:42
  of siesta, like at 1: So was this repeat visit or your first time there?
• 32:45
  of siesta, like at 1: First time in Asia.
• 32:47
  of siesta, like at 1: Okay.
• 32:48
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah, because, um, tour guides have holidays when people work, so February.
• 32:54
  of siesta, like at 1: Right.
• 32:55
  of siesta, like at 1: Uh, I went with colleagues of mine 'cause only other colleagues they had on holiday in February.
• 33:00
  of siesta, like at 1: So we decided to go in a warm place like, um, uh, here it was winter, very cold.
• 33:06
  of siesta, like at 1: So we wanted to go somewhere where we could swim and relax a little bit, but also learn about history and um, Mm-hmm.
• 33:15
  of siesta, like at 1: a place full of, uh, one in history and, uh, with a great cultural heritage.
• 33:21
  of siesta, like at 1: So, um.
• 33:22
  of siesta, like at 1: Mm-hmm.
• 33:22
  of siesta, like at 1: decided to go to Thailand.
• 33:24
  of siesta, like at 1: I've never been there, so first time amazing.
• 33:28
  of siesta, like at 1: I loved so much Asia.
• 33:31
  of siesta, like at 1: I loved the Thailand.
• 33:32
  of siesta, like at 1: We were shocked about the size of buildings and the number of people in there and how much the food is good, how much Mm-hmm.
• 33:44
  of siesta, like at 1: nice, and I was fascinated by Chiang Mai, especially in the north.
• 33:50
  of siesta, like at 1: She's full of temples in incred, incredible temples and animals that I've never seen in my life.
• 33:57
  of siesta, like at 1: Beautiful.
• 33:58
  of siesta, like at 1: Mm-hmm.
• 33:59
  of siesta, like at 1: Excellent.
• 34:00
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah, I, I followed along with your pictures and it looked, it really incredible and you could tell you were doing the trip from a tour guides perspective in terms of Yeah.
• 34:10
  of siesta, like at 1: what you were sharing with your audience was very relevant to really understand what Thailand is about.
• 34:17
  of siesta, like at 1: And I, I think that that, and so whether you meant to or not, or you're just being yourself, you could really tell that you were showing the parts that you felt were, were truly impacting you and that would impact others.
• 34:28
  of siesta, like at 1: So thank you so much for Thank you.
• 34:30
  of siesta, like at 1: the pictures and, For your feedback.
• 34:32
  of siesta, like at 1: Thank you.
• 34:33
  of siesta, like at 1: I was yeah.
• 34:34
  of siesta, like at 1: of the other two guides there because tour guides, tour guide.
• 34:38
  of siesta, like at 1: Traveling are the worst nightmare of other tour guides can be bad.
• 34:44
  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, we had a very good experience with a guide there that I recommended.
• 34:48
  of siesta, like at 1: So much because she changed our, uh, our entire journey there.
• 34:54
  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, um, I, since I'm a tour guide, I book tour guides.
• 35:00
  of siesta, like at 1: Mm-hmm.
• 35:01
  of siesta, like at 1: understand if there's a tour guide telling me what's that place.
• 35:06
  of siesta, like at 1: Mm-hmm.
• 35:07
  of siesta, like at 1: But like, like that, it's really changed my perspective, I think.
• 35:12
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah.
• 35:12
  of siesta, like at 1: I, I booked a tour for two hours, three hours, one hour.
• 35:15
  of siesta, like at 1: When I travel there, we booked a guide for three days and Wow.
• 35:21
  of siesta, like at 1: Without her not being the same.
• 35:23
  of siesta, like at 1: So I really said I understood how my job, it's uh, it's important.
• 35:27
  of siesta, like at 1: People, they tell me with you, it's different.
• 35:29
  of siesta, like at 1: With you, it's different than now.
• 35:31
  of siesta, like at 1: I'm used to here with you.
• 35:32
  of siesta, like at 1: It's different.
• 35:33
  of siesta, like at 1: Yes.
• 35:33
  of siesta, like at 1: But now that I experiment, I experiment this by myself.
• 35:37
  of siesta, like at 1: Mm-hmm.
• 35:37
  of siesta, like at 1: really believe it.
• 35:38
  of siesta, like at 1: I mean, it's, um, it gave me also lots of, um, I mean some, I, I had some feedbacks looking at that guide because, uh, I, I felt housed like being guided.
• 35:52
  of siesta, like at 1: So Right.
• 35:53
  of siesta, like at 1: I understood I should do that or I should not do this anymore.
• 35:56
  of siesta, like at 1: So I.
• 35:57
  of siesta, like at 1: Mm-hmm.
• 35:58
  of siesta, like at 1: It was a good thing to take a guide for three days.
• 36:01
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah, I, I could see that for sure.
• 36:03
  of siesta, like at 1: Now, is this the first, or when you usually travel, do you usually take tours so that you can pick up tips and tricks, or was this the first time, I know you mentioned it's the first time, you've probably done it for a longer period of time, but is taking tours something you typically do when you travel as well?
• 36:18
  of siesta, like at 1: Anyway.
• 36:20
  of siesta, like at 1: Yes.
• 36:20
  of siesta, like at 1: Um, before, no, before I was like, oh, I can study by myself.
• 36:25
  of siesta, like at 1: Uh, um, and then, yeah, I can study, can read, I'm a tour guide and all that.
• 36:30
  of siesta, like at 1: So before being tour guide especially, and um, yes, I was doing it by myself.
• 36:38
  of siesta, like at 1: Then I became a tour guide.
• 36:39
  of siesta, like at 1: Why I have no time to maybe study.
• 36:43
  of siesta, like at 1: So I, I'm on holiday, just want to relax.
• 36:45
  of siesta, like at 1: I just want someone that is telling me what I usually tell people.
• 36:48
  of siesta, like at 1: I wanna spend time and then I would ne even if I'm studying, I would never know the things that a person living there tell me.
• 36:55
  of siesta, like at 1: So I hired guides in museums and the museum transformed completely with someone explaining you the paintings.
• 37:02
  of siesta, like at 1: Also, if I study the paintings with someone telling me about the gossips insights or the history or things that they know.
• 37:11
  of siesta, like at 1: It's optimizing your time.
• 37:13
  of siesta, like at 1: You have two hours, and in two hours you do the museum and by yourself you just get lost.
• 37:19
  of siesta, like at 1: Um, and then Yeah, I think the point of view of a local, it's too much important.
• 37:25
  of siesta, like at 1: So from the moment I took the license, I hired guide everywhere.
• 37:31
  of siesta, like at 1: I take at least one tour everywhere I go.
• 37:36
  of siesta, like at 1: Excellent.
• 37:37
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah.
• 37:37
  of siesta, like at 1: I love that.
• 37:38
  of siesta, like at 1: do you have any other favorite destinations that you've visited over the years?
• 37:43
  of siesta, like at 1: Sì so many, many, many.
• 37:45
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah, The last to question, I love Spain.
• 37:49
  of siesta, like at 1: I love Spain so much.
• 37:50
  of siesta, like at 1: I know it's close by, but I lived in Spain for many years and I love to go back to Spain with my friends.
• 37:57
  of siesta, like at 1: And I think Spain is a wonderful country, especially the south of Spain and Lucía, where there's Granada.
• 38:04
  of siesta, like at 1: I, I love those cities and, uh, speaking Spanish, I can really enter in contact with, um, with them.
• 38:10
  of siesta, like at 1: So it's uh, less effort and fun here Mm-hmm.
• 38:14
  of siesta, like at 1: for, for me.
• 38:14
  of siesta, like at 1: So when I have time, I go there, especially because I travel in, uh, see January, February.
• 38:19
  of siesta, like at 1: So I went to the islands there, , Canary Islands.
• 38:23
  of siesta, like at 1: Mm-hmm.
• 38:24
  of siesta, like at 1: I really love.
• 38:25
  of siesta, like at 1: It's, uh, Morocco.
• 38:26
  of siesta, like at 1: I went there to Morocco,, two years ago and I fell in love with that, those colors and all the markets.
• 38:35
  of siesta, like at 1: It's really interesting, the food.
• 38:38
  of siesta, like at 1: And uh, I'm also a big fan of the north of Europe, even if I don't look like, because, uh, I like a lot warm places.
• 38:45
  of siesta, like at 1: But also winter, winter in Ireland, it's magical.
• 38:49
  of siesta, like at 1: Scotland, Ireland.
• 38:51
  of siesta, like at 1: You don't know what green is until you go to Ireland.
• 38:54
  of siesta, like at 1: You know, it's uh, Yeah.
• 38:56
  of siesta, like at 1: magical.
• 38:58
  of siesta, like at 1: I agree.
• 38:59
  of siesta, like at 1: Yeah, I, I was in Ireland, in June, so not in winter, but the green, it's definitely the emerald isle.
• 39:04
  of siesta, like at 1: They're not lying when they, when they say it, for sure.
• 39:08
  of siesta, like at 1: , So if someone wants to follow you, or most importantly book a tour with you, uh, where can people find you?
• 39:16
  of siesta, like at 1: Well, um, they can contact me through Instagram.
• 39:20
  of siesta, like at 1: Instagram.
• 39:21
  of siesta, like at 1: My page is SunFlorence Tours Martina uh.SunFlorence Tours like sunflowers 'cause we have sunflowers.
• 39:29
  of siesta, like at 1: So SunFlorence Tours easy to remember and um, especially if they wanna book a tour, they can cut on me through email.
• 39:37
  of siesta, like at 1: So sunflorencetours@gmail.com and, uh, if you dunno what tour you would like to book, you can check on my webpage, which is, uh, sunflorencetours.it.
• 39:51
  of siesta, like at 1: Perfect.
• 39:52
  of siesta, like at 1: So we'll make sure that all of those links are in the show notes so that people can find you when they're heading to Florence.
• 39:59
  of siesta, like at 1: Thank you so much for joining us.
• 40:01
  of siesta, like at 1: This was so fun.
• 40:03
  of siesta, like at 1: And I think both Meggan and I are ready to plan a trip to Italy to, uh.
• 40:10
  of siesta, like at 1: Yes, yes.
• 40:11
  of siesta, like at 1: Amazing.
• 40:11
  of siesta, like at 1: So as for us, you can find us on social media at Travel Mug Podcast and on our website travel mug podcast.com.
• 40:21
  of siesta, like at 1: You can support our show through, um, buy me a Coffee and you can leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
• 40:30
  of siesta, like at 1: we'll chat with you listeners again next week.
• 40:33
  of siesta, like at 1: And thank you so much for Thank you for inviting me.
• 40:36
  of siesta, like at 1: Thank you.