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Credlin | 3 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: How bad are things for labor when MPs are being
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Speaker 1: asked to dip into their own budgets now to sprook
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Speaker 1: labour's tax lies. All the while the Housing Minister can't
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Speaker 1: say if she wants property prices to go up or down.
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Speaker 1: She's got no IDEA major news out of Victoria Underworld
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Speaker 1: figure Micgatto arrested by detectives probing the construction industry as
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Speaker 1: part of corruption claims in relation to Victoria's Big build.
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Speaker 1: Opposition leader Jess Wilson joins me in a moment plus
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Speaker 1: to night extraordinary vision inside what's been called a ghost
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Speaker 1: fire station smack bang in the premier's own electorate in
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Speaker 1: one of Victoria's most high risk fire regions. Complete it
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Speaker 1: four years ago, it stands empty and unused, And another
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Speaker 1: day another poll putting one nation ahead of labor. We'll
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Speaker 1: get into all that detail in a moment, but Tee,
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Speaker 1: there's one group that one nation have got labor really
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Speaker 1: worried about.
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Speaker 2: I love her.
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Speaker 3: I mean, she's doing one hell of a job. So
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Speaker 3: she's better than Liberal and labor.
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Speaker 4: She's courageous and like she stands up for what she
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Speaker 4: believes in.
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Speaker 5: I think she'd have a good chance.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, she's got a lot of local supporters here.
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Speaker 1: These labor demographics are once labor demographics are moving sharply
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Speaker 1: to Pauline Hanson. I'll get into that in a moment
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Speaker 1: with Tom Connell. But first I don't know about you,
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Speaker 1: but as someone with a mortgage, I certainly don't want
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Speaker 1: the value of my home to go backwards. That appears
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Speaker 1: to be the government's strategy for getting more people into homes,
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Speaker 1: not to build more or to slow down the rate
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Speaker 1: of immigration which they control, which is running at two
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Speaker 1: times the birth rate in this country. That's not what
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Speaker 1: it's about. And it was Clara O'Neill, the Housing minister,
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Speaker 1: who bell the cat this morning on Breakfast TV, trying
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Speaker 1: to pretend she doesn't want house prices to go up down,
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Speaker 1: but at the same time refusing to say whether she
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Speaker 1: wants them to go up. Do you want house prices
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Speaker 1: to go up or down?
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Speaker 8: I want to see sustainable growth in house process up. Well,
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Speaker 8: I don't think we want to see four hundred percent
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Speaker 8: increases in house prices over the last twenty years, because
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Speaker 8: that's been.
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Speaker 1: Key, that's been key used.
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Speaker 3: Now I'm trying to answer.
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Speaker 8: Your question, I'm trying to answer your question, I don't
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Speaker 8: think we want to see a four hundred percent growth
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Speaker 8: over twenty years.
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Speaker 1: Well that bath confused. I'm confused. Are you confused? I
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Speaker 1: bet you are because that was political spin, that's political obfiscation.
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Speaker 1: It's dodging the truth, because that's now the labor way.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what it is about labor
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Speaker 1: ministers these days. They seem to be able to fail
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Speaker 1: Upwards O'Neil, of course, was once the Home Affairs minister.
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Speaker 1: She buggered up the borders, she let all of those
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Speaker 1: foreign criminals out of jail, and now it seems she's
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Speaker 1: intent on reaking the same sort of havoc on our
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Speaker 1: housing market and the value too of your biggest asset.
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Speaker 1: Labour wants desperately to try and pretend that this rapid
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Speaker 1: housing slump, this drop in value, is not their fault,
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Speaker 1: But the numbers don't lie, even if the politicians are
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Speaker 1: trying to. New figures out today from the Property Data
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Speaker 1: Form Cotality showed Sydney Melbourne house values declined through May
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Speaker 1: we know two that ever since the budget, auction clearance
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Speaker 1: rates well they've crashed, and that almost half of all
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Speaker 1: the homes taken to market last weekend, will they fail
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Speaker 1: to sell? Which puts paid to Labour's dumb theory that
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Speaker 1: house prices falling would help more young people buy them.
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Speaker 1: Because these homes are not being bought, are they They're
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Speaker 1: getting passed in and with more interest rate rises predicted,
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Speaker 1: would be home buyers are clearly spoot and so too
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Speaker 1: is anyone wanting to sell a home because already with
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Speaker 1: these budget changes they've got a much smaller pool of buyers.
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Speaker 1: If you own an existing property and you want to
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Speaker 1: sell it, but you can only sell it to owner occupies,
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Speaker 1: not investors anymore. See this is why people are worried. Then,
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Speaker 1: adding the reality that labor refuses to cut back record
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Speaker 1: high migration, and you've got the real sense that things
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Speaker 1: are headed off a fiscal cliff. Here's the business leader
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Speaker 1: Dick Smith on our crazy big Australiac trajectory.
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Speaker 2: All parents have a population plan, but our politicians have
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Speaker 2: no population plan for the country as a whole.
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Speaker 1: Well today too, growth figures released confirming the collapse of
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Speaker 1: the product of productivity in the March quarter and a
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Speaker 1: weaker than expected result of just zero point three percent,
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Speaker 1: leaving the annual rated a sluggish two point five percent.
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Speaker 1: Now in per capita terms, that's all but a recession.
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Speaker 1: And if you feel poor, that's because under this government
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Speaker 1: you are and you're getting poorer, confirmed by none other
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Speaker 1: than the Reserve Bank governor.
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Speaker 5: I would say that in those circumstances where you know
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Speaker 5: it's not a great outcome for Australia. But as I
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Speaker 5: said earlier, we've had this shock which has lowered our
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Speaker 5: real income. So yes, we are all feeling poorer. That's
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Speaker 5: what this has done.
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Speaker 1: Labour's response to this mess of their own making, or
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Speaker 1: they just want to spend more taxpayer dollars to sell
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Speaker 1: the dog of a budget. That's the urban easy strategy now,
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Speaker 1: isn't it lie? And when you get caught out lying,
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Speaker 1: make the taxpayer pay to sell the lie. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to say this often, but you cannot make this stuff up.
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Speaker 1: Let's got to camera for the headlines now. Sky News
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Speaker 1: political reporter cam Reddin good evening. Should house prices go
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Speaker 1: up or down? That's the latest query muddying the government's budgets.
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Speaker 8: Sell, I want to see sustainable growth in house process up. Well,
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Speaker 8: I don't think we want to see four hundred percent
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Speaker 8: increases in house prices over the last twenty years, and
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Speaker 8: the honest truth is that house prices in this country
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Speaker 8: are too high for young people and they should go down.
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Speaker 6: Economic growth has slowed marginally to two and a half
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Speaker 6: percent over the last year.
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Speaker 4: These national accounts show how resilient our economy is at
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Speaker 4: a time of very substantial global economic volatility.
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Speaker 6: We don't need a treasurer giving himself a participation medal.
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Speaker 9: Australia and the Solomon Islands will pursue a new security treaty.
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Speaker 10: Elected less than three weeks ago.
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Speaker 11: Solomon Island's Prime Minister, Matthew Walla is making Australia a priority.
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Speaker 1: We have always looked to Australia for our security.
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Speaker 12: This treaty will allow Australia and the Solomon Islands to
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Speaker 12: confront global and regional challenges as partners.
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Speaker 13: Cameron Redden's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned this at the top of the show this
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Speaker 1: is the Sky News latest poll and joining me to
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Speaker 1: it through at Sky's chief election analyst Tom Connell. Tom,
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Speaker 1: we had red red Bridge that pole of course to
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Speaker 1: Sunday Monday showing one nation was a head of labor
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Speaker 1: for the first time and now your poll says pretty
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Speaker 1: much the same thing.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is quite similar in particular some of the
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Speaker 6: ups and downs. This is a big movement as well.
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Speaker 6: I should mention in one poll, as you know, Peter,
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Speaker 6: you know, often a pole goes one or two percent
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Speaker 6: at a time in one poll and it's impossible to escape.
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Speaker 6: This is post the budget. Look at the movement we've
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Speaker 6: seen from one nation's primary vote, so from twenty five
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Speaker 6: up to twenty nine to one poll, Labour losing a
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Speaker 6: bit of bark, twenty eight down to twenty six. The
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Speaker 6: Conservative the coalition has to be that even when Labor
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Speaker 6: tanks and it thinks it's got something good to go
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Speaker 6: on in the budget, it's gone down three percentage points.
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Speaker 6: So the signs of life they went up to last time,
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Speaker 6: the coalition back three this time around. The other interesting
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Speaker 6: thing is when one nation's polling first hit about twenty
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Speaker 6: five percent preferred Prime Minister Pauling Hanson Anthony Alberanesi was
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Speaker 6: a huge gap twenty percentage points or so, let's look
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Speaker 6: at it now. So just in one poll again a
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Speaker 6: big closing of this gap. When voters were asked who's
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Speaker 6: a better PM? You can see down three for Anthony
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Speaker 6: Albanesi and he's getting less than half now of people
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Speaker 6: saying it's him, and up three for Paul and Hanson.
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Speaker 9: So the gap is now only six.
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Speaker 6: It was twelve last time, as I said, all of
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Speaker 6: about twenty even when one nation was closing on Labour's
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Speaker 6: primary vote. The other thing about this popularity for Anthony
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Speaker 6: Alberenezi is his personal popularity. You can see here net satisfaction,
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Speaker 6: so three percent fewer overall saying he's doing a good job.
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Speaker 9: You can see four percent up on dissatisfied.
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Speaker 6: Sixty percent is very high for dissatisfied, and net minus
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Speaker 6: twenty six is also a very high figure. He's never
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Speaker 6: been overly popular, but this is a new load for
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Speaker 6: him and the Sky News Pulse ratings.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that dissatisfied at sixty percent is shockingly high. That'll
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Speaker 1: concern people because that means they don't have any equity
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Speaker 1: in their leader. And when you look at that primary
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Speaker 1: twenty six percent, it was a relatively low primary when
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Speaker 1: they won the election, despite I guess that low primary
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Speaker 1: being masked by the number of seats across every one
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Speaker 1: of these indicators. Tom it's saying that there are labor
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Speaker 1: people absolutely now comfortably in that one nation block of votes.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, So I'll come to that in a moment.
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Speaker 6: We've got this graphic up here, and this is when
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Speaker 6: people were asked, if they're going to team up and
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Speaker 6: beat the Labor Party, should they do so coalition in
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Speaker 6: one nation? So coalition voters forty four percent saying yes
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Speaker 6: to that. Interesting in one sense that one nation voters
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Speaker 6: are higher at fifty three percent, But given so many
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Speaker 6: of them, of course, used to be coalition voters not
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Speaker 6: so long ago, perhaps that's not surprising that they'd go back.
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Speaker 9: One interesting question that we asked is around if you.
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Speaker 6: Could vote for a party or which party are you
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Speaker 6: seriously considering voting for at the next election, and responds
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Speaker 6: to this question, Peter can answer for as many parties
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Speaker 6: as they like, and that's why these figures are a
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Speaker 6: higher than just the normal split of one hundred. And
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Speaker 6: when you look at that figure, as you can see
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Speaker 6: what's interesting about this is if one nation were very
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Speaker 6: close to maxing out, this figure wouldn't be much higher
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Speaker 6: than twenty nine and if their support was not quite
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Speaker 6: as rusted on as labors, you'd see the gap between
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Speaker 6: labor and one Nation be smaller. Instead, instead of a
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Speaker 6: three percentage point gap of the actual primary, it's a
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Speaker 6: five percentage point gap here. So if anything, One Nation
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Speaker 6: is slightly underperforming, maybe their lead even grows. I'm not
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Speaker 6: predicting that, but this just shows there's actually a head
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Speaker 6: room for them to grow, at least theoretically. Now you
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Speaker 6: mentioned what sort of voters Peter and I thought this
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Speaker 6: was really interesting in terms of that.
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Speaker 1: Let's get into that.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is people who designate themselves as working class.
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Speaker 9: This is what you can see.
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Speaker 6: This is the primary vote for people who designate themselves
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Speaker 6: as working class, and obviously that often comes with a
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Speaker 6: lower end income thirty five percent for One Nation twenty
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Speaker 6: one percent labor. What's extraordinary about that is look at
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Speaker 6: the change in just one poll. So one Nation was
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Speaker 6: twenty nine and Labour twenty six before this pole post
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Speaker 6: budget perhaps a factor, we'll see.
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Speaker 9: Thirty five to twenty one.
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Speaker 6: That is a huge gap amongst people Labour would assume
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Speaker 6: would be more inclined to vote for them. Now the
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Speaker 6: coalition is struggling as well, obviously down too, but for
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Speaker 6: that shift to happen in one pole, that's seismic. Other
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Speaker 6: areas and cohorts that are favoring one nation include people
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Speaker 6: with a TAFE education, people who are renters as well, Peter,
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Speaker 6: and even language households with a language other than English
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Speaker 6: are only slightly ahead for Labor, So there are some cohorts.
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Speaker 6: Labour would traditionally count in their column that one nation
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Speaker 6: is leading in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so much Tom for everyone saying, you know, particularly
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Speaker 1: in the mainstream media, I'll pull Enhancement's a racist. Her
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Speaker 1: tough position on immigration is going to burn her with
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Speaker 1: the vast majority of Australians that have a migrant background.
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Speaker 1: Jor Analysis says that's not right.
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Speaker 6: At the moment, the gap in those households for a
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Speaker 6: language other than English is closing.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 6: Labour's ahead thirty three or twenty seven on that primary,
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Speaker 6: but that's hardly a massive lead, and as I said,
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Speaker 6: it's closing significantly so in terms of what's going on
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Speaker 6: there and what sort of voters. When you're ahead overall,
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Speaker 6: you're going to appeal to a broad number of voters.
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Speaker 6: But where Labour's got the best lead, Peter, at the moment,
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Speaker 6: we'll see if it lasts with these tax changes compared
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Speaker 6: to one nation is high income households.
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Speaker 9: Funnily enough, that's where they've got their lead.
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Speaker 6: So whether that holds given what was added out in
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Speaker 6: the budget, well who knows.
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Speaker 1: That is what I've been saying for very long time
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Speaker 1: in terms of the leafy suburbs and their predisposition now
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Speaker 1: to go labor or grow green or obviously as we're seeing,
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Speaker 1: go te Oh, thank you Tom. All right, busy day
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Speaker 1: in parliament. Let's get across it all. Send your reporter
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Speaker 1: Carolyn Marcus joins me now, and also James Morrow, who
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Speaker 1: will be inside the late debate tonight as well. Let's
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Speaker 1: get into this bad budget.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: It's bad Caroline, when you're telling all your laboring peace
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Speaker 1: get out there, use your taxpayer communications budgets and sell
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Speaker 1: the budget.
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Speaker 14: Shocker, I know, as if it isn't already bad enough.
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Speaker 14: Now these government MPs are being urged to dip into
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Speaker 14: their own communications allowance to help spook this terrible budget.
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Speaker 14: I mean, you know what they say, Peter, you cannot
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Speaker 14: polish a turd. And yet Labour's caucus a support unit
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Speaker 14: has asked these MPs to use any unused funds from
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Speaker 14: what they received between one hundred to two hundred thousand
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Speaker 14: dollars a year, depending on the size of their electorate
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Speaker 14: for this allowance. Anything that's not being used they're being
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Speaker 14: urged to put into this sort of crisis management campaign
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Speaker 14: for the budget. Well, I'm sorry, it's not salvageable, and
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Speaker 14: wouldn't that money be better spent trying to put towards
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Speaker 14: perhaps new housing, which Labour says it's interested in helping
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Speaker 14: to solve that as you, or maybe giving taxpayer is
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Speaker 14: a bit of a tax break instead of trying to
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Speaker 14: sell us on this unsellable idea that we should be
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Speaker 14: taxed even harder.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've just made the point at home two hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars per MP to sprook a bad budget. That
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Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars is four times the median income
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Speaker 1: in this country. I know we use a lot of
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Speaker 1: millions and billions, James, but these numbers are real. This
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Speaker 1: is our money that they're trying to sell us and
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Speaker 1: spin us a budget that we've already decided is going
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Speaker 1: to hurt us. Across every announceable there there's hardly any
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Speaker 1: good news in that budget. There's a lot of pain
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Speaker 1: for people, and of course we had that Housing Minister
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Speaker 1: out there today, Clara O'Neil completely skewered. Yes, she says,
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Speaker 1: I don't want house prices to go down. I don't
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Speaker 1: want people's homes to be valued less as a result
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Speaker 1: of our policies, but I don't want them to increase either.
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Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry, lady, you can't have it both ways.
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Speaker 15: Well, yeah, no, that's Rightdom And I think Clara O'Neil
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Speaker 15: right now is making Chris Bowen feel pretty smart by
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Speaker 15: comparison at the moment. You know, she's really become the
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Speaker 15: point woman on all of this. That performance she gave
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Speaker 15: today on the Today Show, well to pick up on
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Speaker 15: Caroline's point about polishing a turn, well, she tried to
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Speaker 15: roll it in glitter and it did not go very
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Speaker 15: well for her at all. Look, this is the problem.
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Speaker 15: Either they didn't think this through very much, or they
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Speaker 15: actually do want house prices to go down. I suspect
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Speaker 15: that in Albin Easi's heart of hearts, which is essentially
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Speaker 15: socialist Leninist, he does want house prices to go down
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Speaker 15: because I think that that wing of labor wants it.
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Speaker 15: Thinks that people who've done a little too well, all
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Speaker 15: these people in their unearned real estate profits because their
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Speaker 15: family home went. They've all had it a little too good.
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Speaker 15: And this is such a redistributory budget. It is confiscatory
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Speaker 15: and it is just attempting to transfer wealth. But the
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Speaker 15: fascinating thing here is the people. They want to transfer
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Speaker 15: the wealth to the young people. They're all saying, no,
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Speaker 15: we don't like this either, because we're treating crypto shares
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Speaker 15: ETFs and this is a disaster for us to This
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Speaker 15: is completely unloved and I don't know how they get.
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Speaker 9: Out of it.
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Speaker 1: Caroline, what do you make of that analysis that I
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Speaker 1: just had Tom Connell run through in relation to the
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Speaker 1: sky poll, Because we've talked a lot about one nation
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Speaker 1: taking votes off the coalition, but there's clearly a lot
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Speaker 1: of labor votes in there now. And we ran some
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Speaker 1: boxes at the top of the show. People out on
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Speaker 1: the street feeling very comfortable with the idea of voting
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Speaker 1: for Paul and Hanson very comfortable with the idea that
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Speaker 1: they can identify with her. And it is across the
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Speaker 1: working class demographic in particular, where people feel most abandoned
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Speaker 1: by labor.
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Speaker 14: I think it's really interesting, but I think a lot
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Speaker 14: of people probably did have sympathy for paul In Hanson's
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Speaker 14: ideas and policies over the years, but it hasn't felt
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Speaker 14: like it was okay to express that publicly. And times
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Speaker 14: are changing and are getting so desperate. Whether it's because
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Speaker 14: of this bad budget, whether it's because they've seen the
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Speaker 14: impact of high immigration and unchecked immigration and what that's
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Speaker 14: had on this country, whether it's been the terror attack
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Speaker 14: that we've seen in Bondai. So many factors have led
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Speaker 14: to people going enough is enough. We are not afraid
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Speaker 14: anymore to vocalize. I support and the point especially about immigration,
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Speaker 14: and people who are saying that you know immigrants are
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Speaker 14: not going to support this, well, let me tell you
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Speaker 14: as an immigrant myself. People have come here for a reason.
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Speaker 14: They've left their countries behind, because they've chosen Australia as
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Speaker 14: an example of somewhere that they want to live. They
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Speaker 14: don't want to see Australia turn into the very places
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Speaker 14: that they've left. So many, many immigrants and people of
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Speaker 14: migrant background will support Pauline Hanson because she will say
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Speaker 14: we don't want to see the flavor of this country,
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Speaker 14: the culture change, and that's what they want as well.
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Speaker 1: James, I think you'd probably agree with that.
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Speaker 15: Well, look, as a migrant here myself, this is a
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Speaker 15: great migrant panel you have here tonight, Peta, And I
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Speaker 15: think that's exactly right. And you know, I think about
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Speaker 15: this all the time. I live in Sydney. I've lived
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Speaker 15: in Sydney for the last twenty five years. The character
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Speaker 15: of Sydney the way you know, Sidney was this very nice,
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Speaker 15: charming place twenty five years ago and it's decidedly less
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Speaker 15: so today, and the same thing for Melbourne, you know,
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Speaker 15: in a lot of other places, and it's been a
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Speaker 15: very deliberate change that has been inflicted upon the country.
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Speaker 15: Nobody ever voted for that, by the way, and so
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Speaker 15: I think, you know, no wonder people are looking at
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Speaker 15: one nation as a lightning rod for that, and it's
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Speaker 15: really interesting. I have spoken myself to recent migrants, including
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Speaker 15: from places like India, who said, yeah, you know, actually
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Speaker 15: I think that I think this one Nation party there's
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Speaker 15: something to this because they're experiencing the most precious because
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Speaker 15: they're living in those areas that are being driven by
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Speaker 15: high migration, so they suffer the worst in terms of
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Speaker 15: the infrastructure of the roads to schools, the hospitals, everything else.
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Speaker 1: I leave it there. Thank you to you both for
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Speaker 1: an after break. Big news today the arrest of Underworld
19:10
Speaker 1: figure Micgatto and Tis wife after police swoop from their
19:14
Speaker 1: Mount Martha home this afternoon. It's about corruption claims in
19:19
Speaker 1: relation to the Big Build and other things. Plus why
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Speaker 1: a ghost fire station costume millions is empty in one
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Speaker 1: of Victoria's most high risk fire zones. It's the premier's
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Speaker 1: own electorate that's coming out welcome back. A weak productivity
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Speaker 1: in the March quarter point three percent. What does it
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Speaker 1: tell you? It tells you without record high immigration, we
19:45
Speaker 1: would be not just in a per capita recession which
19:48
Speaker 1: we are in, we would be in an actual recession
19:52
Speaker 1: that's gone out of some other issues. This update for
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Speaker 1: you following an interview that I did last week with
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Speaker 1: a Victorian five Fighters union chief Peter Marshall. Well, he
20:03
Speaker 1: said something on the show. It was a startling revelation
20:06
Speaker 1: and it got me thinking. Here's what he said.
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Speaker 13: Benigo has a new fire station that's been vacant.
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Speaker 1: For five years, been vacant.
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Speaker 13: It's been built, but it's empty because the government won't
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Speaker 13: know and no fire no, just an empty building, empty building.
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Speaker 1: All right? Well, after that interview, I thought, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to go and have a look. I want to go
20:30
Speaker 1: up to just into Allen's electorate anyway, So we headed
20:33
Speaker 1: to Bendigo to investigate whether or not this was the
20:36
Speaker 1: case and how it got to be like this, because
20:39
Speaker 1: it was only in January this year. You remember a
20:41
Speaker 1: devastating fire bushfire ripped through the town of Harcourt, which
20:45
Speaker 1: is just south of Bendigo. So we got there. What'll
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Speaker 1: we find, Well, not just an unused vacant fire station,
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Speaker 1: but a whole lot of empty promises from the Allen
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Speaker 1: government and firefighters on the ground telling me that they're
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Speaker 1: genuinely fearful that they can no longer protect the community
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Speaker 1: that they love. This is what it looks like inside
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Speaker 1: a ghost fire station in Regional Victoria. This four bay
21:23
Speaker 1: firefighting complex was built in East Bendigo following recommendations from
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Speaker 1: the Black Saturday Bushfire Royal Commission. So millions spent but
21:33
Speaker 1: never used, and today, more than four years after the
21:37
Speaker 1: Allen Labour government promised it, it still sits empty. Bendigo
21:42
Speaker 1: firefighters were supposed to move in and operate from here
21:46
Speaker 1: to use it as their temporary station, while the current
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Speaker 1: station in the center of town was upgraded, upgrades that
21:54
Speaker 1: are desperately needed, but upgrades that have never even been started.
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Speaker 1: Firefighters Union Delegate Simon Thomas says he's repeatedly raised concerns
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Speaker 1: with Premier Justinta Allen's office.
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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I've never met with her, Peter.
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Speaker 1: I've how long have you been in the job.
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Speaker 4: I've been in the job ten years now, Yeah, and
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Speaker 4: I've been the union delegate for Bendigo for two years now.
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Speaker 4: Within that time, I've emailed her probably fifteen to twenty times,
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Speaker 4: highlighting the issues that we're experiencing in Bendigo and around
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Speaker 4: the state.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, she's never replied to an email.
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Speaker 1: So you've got an empty shed, you've got genuine funding concerns,
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Speaker 1: and the one person in the state who can fix
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Speaker 1: it is not even happy to meet with you or
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Speaker 1: respond to your emails.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And as a side note to that, I've also been
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Speaker 4: emailing the emergency services ministers, so Vicky Warden previous to her,
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Speaker 4: Jacqueline Simes, and they have not replied to emails either.
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Speaker 3: In fact, both of those have never.
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Speaker 4: Visited an FRV side in their time as emergency Service
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Speaker 4: as ministers.
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Speaker 3: Even though that we're within their portfolio.
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Speaker 1: This shed, you told me, came out of the Black
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Speaker 1: Saturday Royal Commission. But I don't think the Royal Commission
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Speaker 1: ever thought that the shed needed to stay empty. They
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Speaker 1: wanted this shed to be full of firefighters and equipment.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And a lot of the recommendations from that
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Speaker 4: Royal Commission have been met.
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Speaker 3: But for some reason, this one.
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Speaker 4: Is sitting idle as you see, even though on the
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Speaker 4: government's own website, I've got a listed is completed.
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Speaker 1: You're kidding me, no, no, and empty shed is completed.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, five years sat empty.
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Speaker 1: So people watching at home that pay their fire services tax,
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Speaker 1: the emergency services tax now and it's going up and
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Speaker 1: up and up, they think that money is at least
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Speaker 1: looking after you, giving you what you need to keep
23:52
Speaker 1: them safe. And clearly it's not.
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Speaker 4: Nah, not at all, And it raises billions and billions
23:58
Speaker 4: of dollars.
23:59
Speaker 1: So where is the money.
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Speaker 4: I have no idea where that money goes. In the budget,
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Speaker 4: they gave us ten million dollars for trucks for this year.
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Speaker 3: We need at least fifty million.
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Speaker 4: Over five to seven years to get us back to
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Speaker 4: where we were.
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Speaker 3: That ten million dollars. That's just getting us five trucks
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Speaker 3: in a boat.
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Speaker 1: So I know firefighters are hitting the streets. I know
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Speaker 1: members of the union are knocking on doors, and I
24:23
Speaker 1: know they're telling people put labor last, get rid of
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Speaker 1: this premiere. What's your response to that.
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Speaker 4: We're fed up, We're fed up with being underfunded, and
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Speaker 4: we're fed up with our trucks breaking down and we
24:34
Speaker 4: need it fixed.
24:35
Speaker 1: So you're out there still knocking on doors. You're prepared
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Speaker 1: to take the fight up to the premier.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
24:40
Speaker 4: We've got political action action committees set up in every
24:44
Speaker 4: marginal seat in Victoria, and the union's working hard campaigning
24:48
Speaker 4: in those electorates.
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Speaker 1: What sort of support are you getting from people in Bendigo.
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Speaker 4: Everyone wants to stand with firefighters. Everyone wants this government
24:57
Speaker 4: held accountable or kicked out at the election. And that
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Speaker 4: is a sentiment that we're hearing right across the state.
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Speaker 1: It's a sentiment that's also shared by the region's hard
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Speaker 1: working CFA volunteers.
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Speaker 12: They haven't managed our money. Well, they're the custodians of
25:17
Speaker 12: our money. I meant to spend it wisely, and I
25:20
Speaker 12: say it's just getting blown no matter where they go
25:22
Speaker 12: and whatever they do.
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Speaker 1: What would you say to the Premier if you could
25:26
Speaker 1: have five minutes of their time.
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Speaker 12: Jacinto, I think it's time to resign. You've had a
25:31
Speaker 12: fair crack at it. You weren't elected, so it's time
25:34
Speaker 12: to go. Go while you can.
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Speaker 1: I'll say it again. That is Bendigo. Bendigo East is
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Speaker 1: her electorate. And that tax we're talking about the Emergency
25:45
Speaker 1: services levy in Victoria. Everyone has to pay it. Well,
25:48
Speaker 1: it rakes in one point six billion dollars a year.
25:52
Speaker 1: So where does the money go? Well, clearly not to Bendigo,
25:55
Speaker 1: nor would it seem to Armstrong's Creek. This is just
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Speaker 1: south of Geelong on the road tour Key. Have a
26:01
Speaker 1: look at this story today. A fire truck parked behind
26:05
Speaker 1: locked fencing. Well, the government's now calling that a make
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Speaker 1: shift fire station. A kid, you're not now. We contacted
26:13
Speaker 1: the Premiere for a comment regarding this story. Her office
26:16
Speaker 1: did not respond, just like the CFA, just like fire
26:19
Speaker 1: surface as Victoria Sky News can't get a response either. Well,
26:23
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, I'm back in Bendigo. We're going to look
26:26
Speaker 1: at the politics of her seat because she's in a
26:29
Speaker 1: fight to survive. A local businessman, a Publican National Party
26:33
Speaker 1: candidate Andrew leth Lean has got a real chance of
26:36
Speaker 1: throwing her out of parliament. The locals, well, they tell
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Speaker 1: me they are backing him all the way.
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Speaker 3: Enoughs enough, you know, people have had it.
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Speaker 15: I used to be a labor supporter.
26:48
Speaker 3: Never again.
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Speaker 12: I've shown the change in how they used to treat
26:53
Speaker 12: blue collar workers as their pride and joy.
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Speaker 3: We're nothing there.
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Speaker 1: You're not going to want to miss this. Tomorrow and
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Speaker 1: night right here on Kredlin went out to the arrest
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Speaker 1: of Underworld figure mic Gatto and his wife. Detectives from
27:08
Speaker 1: a task force probing the construction industry. They swooped on
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Speaker 1: the Mornington Potinsula home of Gatto this afternoon. It relates
27:18
Speaker 1: to what police have called quote a current investigation into
27:21
Speaker 1: alleged financial offenses, and it follows a damning report earlier
27:25
Speaker 1: this year into the building industry from Jeffrey Watson sc
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Speaker 1: which described mister Gatto as having a malignant influence on
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Speaker 1: the sector. I'll note here that police announce this afternoon
27:37
Speaker 1: that both Gatto and his wife have been released pending
27:40
Speaker 1: for their inquiries, of course, and that Gatto denies any wrongdoing.
27:45
Speaker 1: Here to discuss this and the fire station and a
27:47
Speaker 1: whole lot more. Jess Wilson, opposition leader, Liberal leader in Victoria. Jess,
27:50
Speaker 1: I'll get to the fire station in a moment, but
27:53
Speaker 1: I want to start, if we can, with the arrest
27:56
Speaker 1: of Mick Gatto and his wife. No charges have been laid,
28:00
Speaker 1: the investigation still ongoing. But what's your immediate reaction to
28:04
Speaker 1: this news.
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Speaker 7: Or good to be with you, Pete Arret. As you know,
28:10
Speaker 7: Mick Goto is well known to Victorians as an underworld figure,
28:13
Speaker 7: and he's someone who's described the premier as a good person.
28:17
Speaker 7: Now he's not the type of company I'd like to keep,
28:20
Speaker 7: and I'll leave that relationship for the premier to answer to.
28:23
Speaker 7: But what happens here in Victorio is we continue to
28:26
Speaker 7: see the largest corruption scandal in this state's history, in
28:29
Speaker 7: this country's history continue to unfold under the premier's watch.
28:34
Speaker 7: And we have a premier here who is failing to
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Speaker 7: take any responsibility to ensure that we don't continue to
28:39
Speaker 7: see billions of taxpayer dollars go from big build sites,
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Speaker 7: government construction sites into the pockets of criminals, organized crime syndicates,
28:49
Speaker 7: bikey gangs on her watch. And what Jeffrey Watson exposed
28:53
Speaker 7: earlier this year was the fact that the government, the
28:55
Speaker 7: labor government here in Victoria, has known four years that
28:59
Speaker 7: this option was happening, and they continue to do nothing
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Speaker 7: about it despite knowing that it was happening under their watch.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what surprises me. Of course, she's not just been
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Speaker 1: the Premier jest. She's been the boss in charge of
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Speaker 1: construction basically for most of her parliamentary ministerial career.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 7: Just Into Allen was the minister responsible for the Big
29:25
Speaker 7: Bill for most of the past decade, and so she
29:28
Speaker 7: set up the very systems under which we are now
29:31
Speaker 7: seeing corruption thrive across this state. You know, we continue
29:34
Speaker 7: to hear of shocking allegations on these work sites, allegations
29:38
Speaker 7: of violence, standover tactics, not to mention the billions. A
29:43
Speaker 7: conservative estimate from Jeffrey Watson is fifteen billion dollars and
29:47
Speaker 7: counting of taxpayer money that has gone from these sites
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Speaker 7: into the pockets of criminals and a premier who time
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Speaker 7: and time again Peter just will take no responsibility. But
29:57
Speaker 7: we've said if we're elected in November, they we will
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Speaker 7: establish a Royal Commission till we get to the bottom
30:04
Speaker 7: of how this corruption scandal has been allowed to unfold
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Speaker 7: in this state. Ensure that we can subpoena documents, make
30:11
Speaker 7: sure that we can subpoena witnesses, including former ministers, former premiers,
30:16
Speaker 7: to ensure this never happens again. But also give Eyeback
30:19
Speaker 7: the powers they need to track down every single cent
30:23
Speaker 7: of taxpayer money Follow the Money powers. And what we
30:26
Speaker 7: saw this week from the Premier was her having to
30:29
Speaker 7: come to the party and say, actually, there's so much
30:32
Speaker 7: public scrutiny on this, I'm being held to account now
30:35
Speaker 7: so much that I have to announce that we're going
30:37
Speaker 7: to give Iback Follow the Money powers, but not before
30:40
Speaker 7: an election, maybe in eighteen months time, so there will
30:43
Speaker 7: be no investigation into this before an election. Before Victorian's
30:47
Speaker 7: going to vote in November this.
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Speaker 1: Year, her support block is falling away. You read reports
30:53
Speaker 1: in the paper today that there's an internal debate about
30:56
Speaker 1: whether or not they're going to roll her this side
30:58
Speaker 1: of the election. And I met with a firefighters union
31:02
Speaker 1: on this program and interviewed Peter Marshall. He has members
31:05
Speaker 1: out there knocking on doors trying to unseat Labor, urging
31:09
Speaker 1: voters to put labor. Last I went out to Bendigo
31:12
Speaker 1: on Friday and I saw a fire station in her
31:16
Speaker 1: electorate that has been empty. It costs millions, but it's
31:19
Speaker 1: been empty for four years while firefighters were told, as
31:23
Speaker 1: a recommendation of the bush Fire Royal Commission Jess that
31:26
Speaker 1: they would get a new station. They desperately need a
31:29
Speaker 1: new station. Yet this is her electorate and the one
31:32
Speaker 1: there is empty. What's going on. There's one point six
31:37
Speaker 1: million with this levee every year, paid for by Victorians.
31:41
Speaker 1: Where's the money go?
31:44
Speaker 7: Well, this is just emblematic of this government. The fact
31:47
Speaker 7: that we continue to see this waste of taxpayer money
31:50
Speaker 7: building a new fire station and then keeping it closed
31:53
Speaker 7: for years because the government can't afford to ensure that
31:56
Speaker 7: that fire station has the fieries and the equipment meant
32:00
Speaker 7: to make sure that it can open. Just speaks volumes
32:03
Speaker 7: to the fact that this government has its priorities all wrong.
32:06
Speaker 7: We have a premier who fails to focus on the
32:09
Speaker 7: priorities for Victorians, making sure that she's backing in our fieries,
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Speaker 7: our CFA volunteers. And you're speaking about the Emergency services tax.
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Speaker 7: This is a tax that is on every family home,
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Speaker 7: every business, and every farm in this state. It is
32:23
Speaker 7: going to collect billions of dollars over the coming years.
32:26
Speaker 7: Yet we hear from our CFA volunteers. I hear from
32:28
Speaker 7: them directly the fact that they have trucks that are
32:31
Speaker 7: more than thirty year old. Thirty years old. They don't
32:33
Speaker 7: feel safe when they go out and volunteer on behalf
32:36
Speaker 7: of their communities risk their lives, our firefighters not having
32:39
Speaker 7: access to the facilities the trucks that they need. This
32:42
Speaker 7: is a premier who is more focused on her pet projects,
32:46
Speaker 7: things like the suburban rail loop. You would have seen
32:48
Speaker 7: this week, replacing our titles on typos, on plaques, spending
32:53
Speaker 7: tens of thousands of dollars on wasting taxpayer money painting
32:56
Speaker 7: the front of tunnel machines that are going to be
32:59
Speaker 7: left in the ground. This is a government that had
33:01
Speaker 7: its prize priorities all role and that's why November this
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Speaker 7: year we have to change the government to change the direction.
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Speaker 1: Of this state. Jess Wilson, thank you all. Right after
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Speaker 1: the break, ABS started confirming we've got a falling birth rate,
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Speaker 1: but we've got double the amount of people coming in
33:19
Speaker 1: via immigration that are born in Australia. Dick Smith said,
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Speaker 1: this is a real problem record high immigration. Welcome back
33:34
Speaker 1: words coming up with cal I'm scrolling through my phone
33:36
Speaker 1: looking at your reactions to the fire fighting story out
33:39
Speaker 1: of Bendigot's extraordinary, isn't it. But let's go to the
33:42
Speaker 1: population Mornings now from the Businessman. Dick Smith concerned as
33:47
Speaker 1: he's long been that we have no population plan in
33:51
Speaker 1: this country, but of course this week we hit twenty
33:54
Speaker 1: eight million people, far earlier than previously predicted.
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Speaker 2: Adian families are sensible. They all have a population plan.
34:04
Speaker 2: They know how many kids they want. They have enough
34:09
Speaker 2: kids that they can give a good life to. Now
34:11
Speaker 2: that's a very sensible decision by Australian parents. But our
34:16
Speaker 2: politicians have no similar plan for Australia. They should be
34:22
Speaker 2: able to say what would be a good population that
34:25
Speaker 2: we can give a good life to.
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Speaker 1: Jentman Now my panel one Nation Senator for New South Wales,
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Speaker 1: Sean Bell and Nick Catera senior fellow at the Menses Institute.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to you both, Nick, you know Dick Smith says,
34:39
Speaker 1: our growth, our exponential growth, is driven completely by migration.
34:44
Speaker 1: It's not Australians having babies and I think this is
34:47
Speaker 1: a point that's been forgotten a bit this week, certainly
34:49
Speaker 1: in Canberra.
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Speaker 10: Well, that's right. We've got a declining birth rate, as
34:54
Speaker 10: you know, and so the fact that population has risen
34:58
Speaker 10: so fast, much faster than was addicted, for instance, in
35:01
Speaker 10: the first Intergenerational Report in two thousand and one. The
35:06
Speaker 10: fact that it's rising so fast is almost entirely down
35:09
Speaker 10: to immigration. Look, I disagree with Dick Smith. I don't
35:13
Speaker 10: think we need a population plan as such. I just
35:15
Speaker 10: think we need a sensible immigration policy. And that's two things. One,
35:19
Speaker 10: it's that we don't admit so many people that we
35:22
Speaker 10: don't have houses and basic infrastructure for them. We've got
35:26
Speaker 10: a deficit of maybe a quarter of a million houses
35:28
Speaker 10: at the moment. It's crazy letting more people in. But secondly,
35:31
Speaker 10: and this is just important, and perhaps more important, that
35:34
Speaker 10: we make sure that the people who come to this
35:36
Speaker 10: country are going to love this country, are going to
35:39
Speaker 10: adapt to the culture, are going to love the culture,
35:42
Speaker 10: and are going to be part of it, not just
35:44
Speaker 10: here as tenants.
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Speaker 1: Be careful, Nick Richard Marsall come after you, because he
35:50
Speaker 1: was out there today, wasn't in Shawn Richard Marles a
35:52
Speaker 1: deputy Prime minister saying that anti immigration retric makes Australia
35:58
Speaker 1: less safe. He'll be going after you as well, Shorn in
36:01
Speaker 1: your party, Peter.
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Speaker 11: This divisive rhetoric from Labor government ministers needs to stop.
36:10
Speaker 11: You know, Australians are rightfully critical of the rate of
36:14
Speaker 11: immigration coming into this country and the quality of immigration,
36:18
Speaker 11: and there is nothing wrong with calling that out. And
36:19
Speaker 11: what we see from this Labor government is the constant
36:22
Speaker 11: weaponization of accusations of racism in order to try and
36:27
Speaker 11: shut down debate. And it is that tactic itself which
36:31
Speaker 11: is actually dangerous. And if we look at what happens
36:34
Speaker 11: when you continue to allow the weaponization of racism, you
36:37
Speaker 11: get things like we have seen tragically in the UK.
36:40
Speaker 9: We're a young man named.
36:41
Speaker 11: Henry Novak was stabbed, a white man stabbed by a
36:45
Speaker 11: brown man and then what you had is the immediate
36:48
Speaker 11: weaponization of an accusation of racism. The police then acted
36:52
Speaker 11: on that handcuffed Henry and he bled to death. This
36:57
Speaker 11: is where we are headed if we continue to the
37:01
Speaker 11: weaponization of accusations of racism, the demonization of decent Australians
37:07
Speaker 11: who are rightfully critical of the terrible failure of this
37:10
Speaker 11: labor government to control the quantity and quality of immigration
37:14
Speaker 11: into this nation.
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Speaker 9: It's discussing it needs to stop. Peter Nick.
37:18
Speaker 1: Of course we saw those rides. I'll just pick up
37:20
Speaker 1: that point there made by Sean. We saw riding on
37:22
Speaker 1: the streets of London and broadly across the United Kingdom.
37:26
Speaker 1: As a result of that footage being released by police,
37:28
Speaker 1: they kept it out of the trial. The killers now
37:31
Speaker 1: obviously been convicted and sentenced to life. That's what sent
37:35
Speaker 1: people angrily out in the streets saying they have had
37:38
Speaker 1: enough in the United Kingdom. And it comes on the
37:42
Speaker 1: back of years, a decade long debate about those grooming gangs.
37:46
Speaker 1: Rape gangs let's call them what they are. Grooming gangs
37:48
Speaker 1: is language designed to make it seem less serious than
37:53
Speaker 1: it really was. And this will come to Australia if
37:56
Speaker 1: we do not get our house in order. I think Nick.
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Speaker 16: Absolutely right.
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Speaker 10: Peter, Look, this is I find this personally very distressing,
38:03
Speaker 10: this case. That's the town I grew up in, Southampton,
38:07
Speaker 10: a quiet port, beautiful town, and these things are happening there. Well,
38:11
Speaker 10: that just it just utterly shocks and disgusts me and
38:16
Speaker 10: the behavior of the Hampshire Police obviously needs close investigation.
38:19
Speaker 10: I gather one of those officers as resigned, But you're
38:21
Speaker 10: dead right, these things will come here and let's hope
38:25
Speaker 10: we have a more sensible policing policy, one that doesn't
38:30
Speaker 10: sort of automatically assume that the white guy is the criminal,
38:34
Speaker 10: because in this case he clearly wasn't. And it's a tragic,
38:36
Speaker 10: tragic outcome.
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Speaker 1: I was listening Sean to Breakfast radio this morning and
38:42
Speaker 1: I listened to the head of the ACTU, Sally McManus,
38:46
Speaker 1: you know, talk about the wage decision, talk about AI,
38:50
Speaker 1: and she let this slip out. Have a listen AI.
38:54
Speaker 16: There's two ways it could go. It could go and
38:56
Speaker 16: just wipe out jobs, or if we use SIT in
39:00
Speaker 16: a positive way, it might be able to do a
39:04
Speaker 16: whole lot of jobs and allow there to be less
39:07
Speaker 16: need to work. And I personally like to work three
39:10
Speaker 16: days a week. If I had a choice about that,
39:13
Speaker 16: I'll probably choose Yeah, that'd be a good idea.
39:18
Speaker 1: She wants to get paid for five, but she wants
39:21
Speaker 1: to work for three. And that's been the push of course,
39:25
Speaker 1: in a lot of the debate about AI, that the
39:26
Speaker 1: profits from this increased productivity into machines doesn't go to
39:31
Speaker 1: the company or anybody else. It goes back to the
39:33
Speaker 1: workers and we get more time off and we have
39:34
Speaker 1: what five day weekends, four day weekends. I don't know,
39:37
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy.
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Speaker 11: Well that sounded to me a bit like a fascical
39:43
Speaker 11: thought bubble. I mean, trust the ACTU Sally mcmatters to
39:47
Speaker 11: find a way to turn artificial intelligence into artificial entitlement.
39:51
Speaker 11: And I mean the question I have is, well, which
39:53
Speaker 11: work is a benefit from this? Is it the one
39:56
Speaker 11: sitting at desk jobs using chat GPT or is it
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Speaker 11: how is a worker who is unloading a shipping attain
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Speaker 11: and something I have had to do, or mowing lawns
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Speaker 11: benefiting from this? I mean the reality is we're actually
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Speaker 11: at risk of being left behind because the labor government
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Speaker 11: is actually failing to deal with the energy issues that
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Speaker 11: we have, which is actually preventing us from building and
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Speaker 11: running the data centers. We need to take full advantage
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Speaker 11: of the AI revolution that's experiencing. So I mean, if
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Speaker 11: we really want to get those benefits, we need to
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Speaker 11: actually start addressing government failure in providing cheap electricity, which
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Speaker 11: is actually holding Australia.
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Speaker 1: Back, of course, Nick, if you're a public servant in Victoria,
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Speaker 1: are already working in three day a week, it works
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Speaker 1: from home for two and no one gives a toss
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Speaker 1: whether you actually are productive in those two days. And
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Speaker 1: the premierges into Allen wants to now legislate that as
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Speaker 1: a right right across the workforce, not just with public servants.
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Speaker 2: Products.
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Speaker 10: Serving needs a problem in this country, isn't it, Peter?
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Speaker 10: I mean, I thought we all agreed that, we all
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Speaker 10: agreed it needs fixing. Even Jim Charmers talks about out
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Speaker 10: the need to fix productivity. This is clearly an anti
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Speaker 10: productivity measure. I don't know about the public servants. I mean,
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Speaker 10: they're completely unproductive as they are. I suppose it doesn't
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Speaker 10: really matter whether they come in three or five days.
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Speaker 10: But you know, I mean, seriously, seriously paid for five
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Speaker 10: days work and only do three?
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Speaker 3: Are you kidding?
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Speaker 1: Are you really kidding?
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Speaker 10: Selling with manus? You know this is what is This
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Speaker 10: is what is driving this country downhill very quickly.
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Speaker 1: We can't even jump over our national debt. It's going
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Speaker 1: to head a trillion Victoria's death two hundred billion. But
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Speaker 1: somehow there's a money Tree in Canberra to o Sean,
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Speaker 1: let's go put your one Nation party hat on now,
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Speaker 1: not your senator hat. You've got obviously a state election
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Speaker 1: in Victoria in November. One Nation killing it in the polls.
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Speaker 1: You've passed labor now in two poles, the Skypole of course,
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Speaker 1: and red Bridge on Monday. There is a whole lot
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Speaker 1: of people saying you've got to work with the coalition,
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Speaker 1: or the coalition's got to work with you and get
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Speaker 1: rid of a bad government in Victoria. But a former
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Speaker 1: Liberal premier says he's horrified, horrified at the thought that
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Speaker 1: One Nation and the coalition could get together. I think
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Speaker 1: he's crazy. He was therefore not even a term. The
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Speaker 1: Libs got in and then they lost everything into to
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Speaker 1: one man, Daniel Andrews. I reckon, you've got to work together, Peter.
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Speaker 11: I actually don't think it's that complicated. I think when
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Speaker 11: conservative parties put Green's Labor teals last, then that solves
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Speaker 11: the equation what we and then I believe what needs
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Speaker 11: to happen is conservative parties need to work to get
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Speaker 11: rid of bad labor governments one nation. That is what
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Speaker 11: we are solely focused on. We are solely focused on
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Speaker 11: taking down terrible labor governments. And so I know that
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Speaker 11: a lot of people in the media, you know a
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Speaker 11: lot of people inside different bubbles, bit the Canberra bubble
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Speaker 11: or the bubble in Melbourne, like to talk about preferences.
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Speaker 11: But I find a lot of the time that's really
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Speaker 11: over complicating something that is really quite simple. Conservative parties
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Speaker 11: just need to make sure socialist left wing, bad government parties,
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Speaker 11: bad minority parties go last.
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Speaker 9: And that's how you put the tears.
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Speaker 1: Nick Cater, I'd vote for Humphrey v. Bear if you
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Speaker 1: got rid of Jainter Allen and labor in Victoria. I
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Speaker 1: think anyone cares. I mean, we really just want a
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Speaker 1: very bad government thrown out.
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Speaker 10: That's it priority. It's first thing first. As your old
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Speaker 10: boss said, there's only the most important job is to
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Speaker 10: get rid of the labor government in Canberra and Victoria.
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Speaker 10: I guess most important job, and most immediate job.
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Speaker 1: Is to get rid of that.
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Speaker 10: We have to get rid of bad governments, and I
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Speaker 10: think as the coalition should be prepared to work with
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Speaker 10: anybody who can make that happen.
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Speaker 1: I'll over there, thank you to you both. All right,
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Speaker 1: after the break, we'll get into some good words with
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Speaker 1: cow Here he is our Wednesday favorite wordsmith and broadcaster
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Speaker 1: Kel Richard's Kel welcome, you're getting some curly ones. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is straight out of estimates last week John says,
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Speaker 1: what can Kel ad from a linguistic point of view
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Speaker 1: about doctor Anacody's expression last week about potential pregnancy apply
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Speaker 1: to someone an individual biological mail who can never be
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Speaker 1: potentially pregnant.
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Speaker 13: Yes, it's an odd expression, isn't it. The word potential
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Speaker 13: came into the English language from classical Latin in the
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Speaker 13: fourteenth century with the meaning of possible, and that's still
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Speaker 13: the meaning that it has today. So and Anna Cody
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Speaker 13: is a lawyer, I mean she was the dean of
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Speaker 13: law at Western Sydney University. And as you know because
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Speaker 13: of your own background, lawyers are trained to use words
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Speaker 13: very carefully. So to use a word that means possible
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Speaker 13: to describe something impossible, as you said, someone without a
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Speaker 13: uterus becoming pregnant. Now, if I was using on parliamentary language,
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Speaker 13: I would say it's a lie. But it may just
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Speaker 13: be undermining the English language and treating words as if
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Speaker 13: they don't matter. Now, when a senior bureaucrat decides to
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Speaker 13: utter words that are empty and meaningless. I think we
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Speaker 13: have every excuse never to trust anything that person says.
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Speaker 1: Ever, again, I also think we're all obliged to disobey
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Speaker 1: bad laws, and I think what she's pushing in this
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Speaker 1: case is a bad law. Ray wants to know the
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Speaker 1: phrase you goose is cooked. Where's that one come from?
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Speaker 13: Well, it means that you're defeated, the game is over
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Speaker 13: for you. It seems to come from a man named
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Speaker 13: Yann Huss. He was a Czech intellectual, the theologian, philosopher, academic,
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Speaker 13: and he was a leader of the Protestant Reformation in Bohemia. Now,
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Speaker 13: Yan Huss was burnt at the stake by his Catholic opponents,
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Speaker 13: and the name Huss means in Czech means goose, and
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Speaker 13: so supposedly your goose is cooked comes from his fiery death.
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Speaker 13: Now there's a problem in that the expression didn't turn
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Speaker 13: up until quite a long time after it happened. But
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Speaker 13: there is no other source for it. So it's a
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Speaker 13: very odd expression. And the only explanation I think is
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Speaker 13: it comes from mister Yarnhuss.
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Speaker 1: Right, here's some oldies, And you know, I don't think
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Speaker 1: I know the origins of any of them. I'll do
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Speaker 1: the first one, and Clark's given us two. We'll do
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Speaker 1: the first one. Elbow grease.
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Speaker 13: This is the figurative or metaphorical oil that polishes furniture
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Speaker 13: from the movements of your arms, your elbows. And it
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Speaker 13: was coined to mean that figuratively in sixteen seventy two,
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Speaker 13: so it's much older than I would have thought. Sixteen
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Speaker 13: seventy two comes from a long time ago.
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Speaker 1: It's a favorite of my grandmother when I wasn't doing it.
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Speaker 1: You know enough hard yards around the kitchen. What about
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Speaker 1: This is one that my mother used to say to
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Speaker 1: me a lot. You know, you're lucky you got home.
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Speaker 1: By the skin of your teeth. Where that come from?
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Speaker 1: This is also from Clark Well.
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Speaker 13: The skin of your teeth means your lips, and the
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Speaker 13: image is the idea that if you were being shaved
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Speaker 13: by a very sharp blade and a clumsy barber, then
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Speaker 13: you might lose some of your lips as well as
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Speaker 13: the whiskers. And skin of your teeth actually came into
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Speaker 13: English from the Bible from the Book of Job from
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Speaker 13: chapter nineteen, verse twenty, with exactly that meaning something that's
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Speaker 13: very close is the skin of your teeth, your lips.
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Speaker 1: I'll have to admit to my viewers here as a
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Speaker 1: pretty naughty teenager and beyond. So one day I might
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Speaker 1: give you a treat and interview my mother on the show.
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Speaker 1: But I think you'd probably be shocked. I might lose
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Speaker 1: my job. Adrianne wants to know where does the term
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Speaker 1: dressed to the nines come from.
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Speaker 13: This is very interesting because it's a bizarre bit of English.
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Speaker 13: Dressed of the nines was originally dressed to thine eyes,
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Speaker 13: dressed all the way up to here, so that you're
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Speaker 13: dressed all the way up. And then in the sixteen
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Speaker 13: hundreds all those forms of the second person pronoun disappeared
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Speaker 13: the thy. So when thine disappeared from the language, what
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Speaker 13: happened was the n was detached from the end of
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Speaker 13: thine and attached to the beginning of our eyes, and
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Speaker 13: thine eyes became the nines. I know it sounds weird,
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Speaker 13: but that's the kind of really odd thing that really
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Speaker 13: happens in the English language.
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Speaker 1: That makes sense because it's the lipstick, and it's the
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Speaker 1: ear rings and everything. Just quickly, where can people give
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Speaker 1: you some more words for next week?
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Speaker 13: Oswards ozedwords, dot com, dot A, go to the contact page.
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Speaker 13: Type in your question.
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Speaker 1: All right, we love him, don't we. That's it for me,
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Speaker 1: See you tomorrow night. Here's Andrew