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Opening to the Absolute: The Mystery That Liberates with A. H. Almaas · Deep Transformation

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  Welcome
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  to
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  our
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  continuing
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  dialogue
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  with
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  AH
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  Almas
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  Hamid
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  Ali.
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  Today
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  we
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  explore
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  the
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  depths
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  of
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  our
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  being,
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  the
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  fundamental
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  nature
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  of
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  reality.
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  This
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  is
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  a
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  really
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  deep
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  dive
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  and
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  I
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  think
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  you'll
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  love
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  it.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  Deep
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  Transformation.
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  Self,
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  Society,
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  Spirit,
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  life
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  enhancing,
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  paradigm
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  rattling
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  conversations
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  with
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  cutting
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  edge
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  thinkers,
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  contemplatives
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  and
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  activists.
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  With
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  Dr.
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  John
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  Dupuy,
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  join
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  us
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  in
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  the
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  evolutionary
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  fast
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  lane
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  as
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  we
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  take
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  a
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  deep
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  dive
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  into
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  transformational
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  practice.
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  Peak
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  experience,
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  profound
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  understanding,
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  powerful
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  contribution.
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  Our
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  co
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  host
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  is
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  John
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  Dupuis
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  and
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  I'm
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  Roger
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  Walsh.
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  And
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  today
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  we
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  continue
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  with
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  our
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  series,
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  the
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  AH
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  Almas
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  Wisdom
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  Series
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  in
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  which
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  we're
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  dialoguing
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  with
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  Hamid
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  Ali,
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  whose
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  pen
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  name
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  is
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  AH
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  Almas.
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  And
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  Hamid
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  is
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  offering
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  us
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  the
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  gift,
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  the
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  priceless
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  gift
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  of
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  an
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  overview
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  of
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  his
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  work
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  and
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  creations
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  manifested
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  in
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  the
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  diamond
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  approach
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  and
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  constituted
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  in
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  a
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  series
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  of
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  very
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  remarkable
• 1:23
  books.
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  And
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  today
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  we'll
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  be
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  diving
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  into
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  what
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  may
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  be
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  the
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  most
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  profound
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  of
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  all
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  the
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  profound
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  chapters
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  in
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  this
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  book.
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  True
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  Nature.
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  John
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  is
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  on
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  fire
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  with
• 1:35
  questions.
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  And
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  so
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  John,
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  I'm
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  turning
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  it
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  over
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  to
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  you.
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  Thank
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  you,
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  Roger
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  Hamid,
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  True
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  joy
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  to
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  be
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  back
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  with
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  you.
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  And
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  I
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  have
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  been
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  immersing
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  myself
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  in
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  this
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  book
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  for
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  two
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  and
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  a
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  half
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  months
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  and
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  I
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  find
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  it's
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  a
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  really
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  great
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  companion
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  to
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  the
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  inner
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  journey
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  home
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  because
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  it's,
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  it's
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  a
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  first
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  person
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  account
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  largely
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  of
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  how
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  the
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  teachings
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  came
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  to
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  you
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  or
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  the
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  revelations
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  or
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  whatever
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  call
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  them
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  and
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  how
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  you
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  went
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  through
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  it
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  and
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  integrated
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  it.
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  And
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  it's,
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  it's
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  really
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  spectacular
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  and
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  it's
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  been
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  work
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  in
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  me.
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  So
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  my
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  first
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  question
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  is
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  about
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  presence,
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  which
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  is
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  a
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  word
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  that
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  you
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  use
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  a
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  lot
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  and
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  you
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  talked
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  about.
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  I
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  think
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  it
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  was
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  EB
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  Gold
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  that
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  helped
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  you
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  learn
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  about
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  presence.
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  And
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  how
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  did
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  you
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  discover
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  that?
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  And
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  what
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  is
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  the
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  phenomenological
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  experience
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  of
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  presence?
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  What
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  is
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  it
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  when
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  you
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  sense
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  or
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  feel
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  presence?
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  Yeah.
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  E.J.
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  gold.
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  E.J.
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  gold,
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  the
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  teacher
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  who,
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  the
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  fourth
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  wave
• 2:29
  teacher
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  who
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  I
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  met
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  in
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  the
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  70s,
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  I
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  recognize
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  as
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  embodying
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  presence
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  in
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  a
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  very
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  distinct,
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  clear
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  way.
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  That's
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  when
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  I
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  first
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  recognized
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  it
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  in
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  somebody
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  else
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  before
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  I
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  actually
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  recognized
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  it
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  deeply
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  in
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  myself,
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  which
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  happened
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  later,
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  a
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  few
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  years
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  later.
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  But
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  presence
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  is
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  a
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  thing,
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  the
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  central
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  thing
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  that's
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  been
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  going
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  through
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  our
• 2:56
  discussions
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  and
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  talk
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  about
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  its
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  qualities
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  and
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  dimensions
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  and
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  all
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  that.
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  Presence
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  is
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  an
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  ontological
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  experiencing,
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  the
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  ontology
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  of
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  consciousness,
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  like
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  ontological
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  mode
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  of
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  consciousness.
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  Consciousness
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  that
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  is
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  that
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  sense
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  like
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  the
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  Amnes,
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  the
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  I
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  am
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  is
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  the
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  am
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  part
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  of
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  like
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  in
• 3:21
  the
• 3:22
  Advaita
• 3:22
  Vedanta
• 3:23
  talk
• 3:23
  about
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  true
• 3:24
  nature
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  as
• 3:25
  Satchitananda
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  and
• 3:27
  sat
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  mean
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  truth.
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  Or
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  being,
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  which
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  means
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  truth
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  or
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  existence,
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  originally
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  used
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  interchangeably.
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  So
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  presence
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  is
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  experiencing
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  one's
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  existence
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  and
• 3:42
  phenomenological
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  immediate.
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  Not
• 3:45
  luck
• 3:46
  recognizing
• 3:47
  existence,
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  but
• 3:48
  feeling
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  it,
• 3:49
  feeling
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  the
• 3:50
  sense
• 3:50
  of
• 3:51
  existing.
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  So
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  presence
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  is
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  the
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  field.
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  It's
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  consciousness
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  as
• 3:58
  a
• 3:58
  field,
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  as
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  a
• 3:59
  medium
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  of
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  different
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  degrees
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  of
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  substantiality
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  and
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  fullness
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  or
• 4:06
  lightness
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  that
• 4:08
  we
• 4:09
  could
• 4:09
  feel
• 4:09
  impregnated
• 4:10
  with.
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  We
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  feel
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  presence,
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  experiencing
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  presence.
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  Feel
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  like
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  a
• 4:16
  full
• 4:16
  substance,
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  a
• 4:17
  substance
• 4:17
  that
• 4:18
  has
• 4:18
  a
• 4:18
  sense
• 4:18
  of
• 4:19
  aliveness
• 4:19
  and
• 4:20
  fullness.
• 4:21
  I
• 4:21
  used
• 4:21
  to
• 4:21
  call,
• 4:22
  at
• 4:22
  the
• 4:22
  beginning,
• 4:22
  I
• 4:22
  first
• 4:23
  discovered,
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  called
• 4:23
  it
• 4:24
  substance,
• 4:26
  spiritual
• 4:27
  substance.
• 4:28
  It
• 4:28
  is
• 4:29
  like
• 4:29
  a
• 4:29
  substance.
• 4:30
  However,
• 4:31
  it's
• 4:31
  not
• 4:31
  a
• 4:31
  physical
• 4:32
  substance.
• 4:32
  It's
• 4:33
  a
• 4:33
  substance
• 4:34
  made
• 4:34
  out
• 4:34
  of
• 4:34
  pure
• 4:35
  consciousness.
• 4:37
  So
• 4:37
  presence
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  mean
• 4:39
  what
• 4:39
  I
• 4:40
  am
• 4:40
  that
• 4:40
  is
• 4:41
  here
• 4:42
  in
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  consciousness
• 4:44
  sense.
• 4:44
  Not
• 4:44
  my
• 4:45
  body
• 4:45
  here,
• 4:46
  but
• 4:46
  me
• 4:47
  as
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  consciousness
• 4:48
  that
• 4:48
  is
• 4:48
  here.
• 4:49
  I
• 4:49
  am
• 4:49
  seeing
• 4:49
  my
• 4:50
  hereness,
• 4:51
  my
• 4:51
  essence,
• 4:52
  my
• 4:52
  beingness.
• 4:53
  And
• 4:54
  this
• 4:54
  beingness
• 4:55
  is
• 4:55
  what
• 4:55
  I
• 4:55
  call
• 4:56
  presence.
• 4:57
  So
• 4:58
  I
• 4:59
  am
• 4:59
  present
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  because
• 5:00
  I
• 5:00
  am
• 5:00
  the
• 5:01
  presence,
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  presence
• 5:02
  is.
• 5:04
  And
• 5:04
  here
• 5:05
  they
• 5:05
  feel
• 5:05
  it
• 5:05
  is.
• 5:06
  Here
• 5:06
  it
• 5:06
  is
• 5:06
  present
• 5:07
  because
• 5:07
  it
• 5:07
  is
• 5:08
  the
• 5:08
  immediacy
• 5:09
  of
• 5:09
  the
• 5:09
  nowness
• 5:10
  of
• 5:10
  consciousness.
• 5:11
  Is
• 5:12
  that
• 5:12
  equivalent
• 5:12
  to
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  soul?
• 5:13
  Hamid?
• 5:14
  Well,
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  soul
• 5:15
  can
• 5:15
  be
• 5:15
  created
• 5:15
  as
• 5:16
  a
• 5:16
  presence.
• 5:16
  However,
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  soul,
• 5:18
  when
• 5:18
  I
• 5:18
  talk
• 5:18
  about
• 5:19
  presence,
• 5:19
  I
• 5:19
  talk
• 5:20
  about
• 5:20
  the
• 5:21
  essential
• 5:21
  nature
• 5:22
  of
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  soul,
• 5:23
  the
• 5:23
  true
• 5:23
  nature
• 5:24
  of
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  soul.
• 5:24
  We
• 5:24
  call
• 5:25
  it
• 5:25
  presence.
• 5:26
  The
• 5:27
  soul
• 5:27
  is.
• 5:28
  Is.
• 5:29
  I
• 5:29
  call
• 5:29
  it
• 5:29
  a
• 5:30
  living
• 5:30
  presence.
• 5:30
  It's
• 5:31
  a
• 5:31
  flowing,
• 5:32
  dynamic
• 5:33
  kind
• 5:34
  of
• 5:34
  consciousness
• 5:35
  that
• 5:36
  can
• 5:36
  feel
• 5:37
  like
• 5:37
  presence
• 5:38
  when
• 5:39
  it
• 5:39
  is
• 5:40
  full
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  its
• 5:41
  nature.
• 5:41
  However,
• 5:41
  most
• 5:42
  of
• 5:42
  the
• 5:42
  time,
• 5:42
  as
• 5:42
  you
• 5:43
  remember
• 5:43
  from
• 5:43
  our
• 5:43
  discussion,
• 5:44
  the
• 5:45
  soul
• 5:45
  is
• 5:45
  structured
• 5:45
  by
• 5:46
  our
• 5:46
  history.
• 5:47
  Appears
• 5:47
  as
• 5:48
  our
• 5:48
  ego
• 5:49
  self
• 5:51
  that,
• 5:51
  when
• 5:51
  it
• 5:52
  is
• 5:52
  that
• 5:52
  way,
• 5:52
  doesn't
• 5:53
  feel
• 5:53
  like
• 5:53
  presence.
• 5:54
  It's
• 5:55
  disconnected
• 5:55
  from
• 5:55
  its
• 5:56
  presence.
• 5:56
  Because
• 5:57
  by
• 5:58
  identifying
• 5:59
  with
• 5:59
  its
• 5:59
  history
• 5:59
  or
• 6:00
  images
• 6:00
  of
• 6:00
  itself,
• 6:01
  it
• 6:02
  disconnects
• 6:03
  from
• 6:03
  its
• 6:03
  nature,
• 6:04
  which
• 6:04
  means
• 6:04
  it
• 6:05
  disconnects
• 6:05
  from
• 6:05
  its
• 6:06
  presence.
• 6:07
  So
• 6:07
  when
• 6:07
  the
• 6:08
  soul
• 6:08
  becomes
• 6:08
  open
• 6:09
  to
• 6:09
  its
• 6:10
  presence,
• 6:10
  then
• 6:11
  soul
• 6:11
  can
• 6:12
  feel
• 6:12
  like
• 6:12
  presence.
• 6:13
  Both
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  essential
• 6:14
  nature
• 6:15
  and
• 6:15
  soul
• 6:15
  are
• 6:16
  presence
• 6:16
  of
• 6:17
  a
• 6:17
  slightly
• 6:17
  different
• 6:18
  kind.
• 6:18
  The
• 6:19
  soul
• 6:19
  flowing,
• 6:20
  dynamic,
• 6:21
  growing
• 6:21
  organism
• 6:22
  of
• 6:22
  presence.
• 6:23
  While
• 6:24
  presence
• 6:24
  itself.
• 6:25
  That's
• 6:25
  true
• 6:25
  nature
• 6:26
  of
• 6:27
  consciousness
• 6:27
  or
• 6:28
  the
• 6:28
  true
• 6:28
  nature
• 6:28
  of
• 6:28
  everything.
• 6:29
  It's
• 6:30
  hereness,
• 6:30
  it's
• 6:31
  factness.
• 6:32
  And
• 6:33
  it
• 6:33
  doesn't
• 6:33
  grow,
• 6:34
  doesn't
• 6:34
  change.
• 6:35
  It's
• 6:35
  completely
• 6:35
  perfect,
• 6:36
  completely
• 6:36
  what
• 6:37
  it
• 6:37
  is.
• 6:38
  The
• 6:38
  soul
• 6:39
  grows
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  learns.
• 6:40
  But
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  presence
• 6:41
  of
• 6:42
  the
• 6:42
  true
• 6:43
  nature
• 6:44
  just.
• 6:44
  It
• 6:45
  is
• 6:45
  what
• 6:45
  it
• 6:45
  is.
• 6:46
  Yeah.
• 6:47
  It
• 6:47
  doesn't
• 6:47
  need
• 6:48
  to
• 6:48
  be
• 6:48
  taught,
• 6:48
  doesn't
• 6:49
  need
• 6:49
  to
• 6:49
  be
• 6:49
  healed.
• 6:49
  It
• 6:49
  doesn't
• 6:50
  need.
• 6:50
  No,
• 6:51
  it's
• 6:51
  perfect
• 6:52
  and
• 6:53
  complete
• 6:54
  and
• 6:54
  totally
• 6:55
  blissful.
• 6:57
  Yeah.
• 6:58
  And
• 6:58
  amid
• 6:58
  you
• 6:59
  talk
• 6:59
  about
• 6:59
  the
• 7:00
  fact
• 7:00
  that
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  recognition
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  presence
• 7:02
  or
• 7:03
  essence,
• 7:03
  as
• 7:04
  you
• 7:04
  call
• 7:04
  it
• 7:05
  in
• 7:05
  the
• 7:05
  soul,
• 7:06
  matures
• 7:07
  into
• 7:07
  a
• 7:07
  deeper
• 7:08
  recognition
• 7:09
  that
• 7:10
  this
• 7:10
  nature
• 7:11
  is
• 7:12
  or
• 7:13
  true
• 7:13
  nature
• 7:13
  is
• 7:14
  actually
• 7:14
  the
• 7:15
  ground
• 7:15
  of
• 7:16
  all
• 7:16
  phenomena.
• 7:17
  All
• 7:17
  manifestation.
• 7:19
  Yes.
• 7:19
  So
• 7:20
  depending
• 7:20
  on
• 7:21
  how
• 7:21
  we
• 7:21
  discover
• 7:22
  presence,
• 7:23
  you
• 7:23
  know,
• 7:24
  and
• 7:24
  the
• 7:25
  way
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  teach
• 7:26
  it,
• 7:26
  I
• 7:26
  do
• 7:26
  it
• 7:27
  gradually
• 7:27
  because
• 7:28
  most
• 7:28
  people
• 7:28
  cannot
• 7:29
  go
• 7:29
  to
• 7:30
  the
• 7:30
  deepest
• 7:30
  level.
• 7:31
  So
• 7:32
  the
• 7:32
  individual
• 7:33
  at
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  beginning,
• 7:34
  it's
• 7:34
  presence
• 7:35
  within
• 7:35
  oneself,
• 7:36
  within
• 7:36
  the
• 7:37
  consciousness
• 7:37
  of
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  soul.
• 7:38
  So
• 7:38
  it's
• 7:39
  localized
• 7:40
  and
• 7:41
  like
• 7:41
  filling
• 7:42
  the
• 7:42
  body
• 7:42
  or
• 7:44
  appearing
• 7:45
  in
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  heart,
• 7:46
  or
• 7:47
  however
• 7:48
  that
• 7:48
  is
• 7:48
  the
• 7:49
  beginning
• 7:49
  between
• 7:49
  present.
• 7:51
  Presence
• 7:52
  is
• 7:52
  not
• 7:52
  physical.
• 7:54
  The
• 7:54
  physical
• 7:54
  doesn't
• 7:55
  bound
• 7:55
  it.
• 7:57
  When
• 7:58
  we
• 7:58
  recognize
• 7:58
  that
• 7:58
  the
• 7:59
  physical,
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  body
• 8:00
  doesn't
• 8:01
  bound
• 8:01
  presence
• 8:01
  and
• 8:02
  it
• 8:02
  doesn't
• 8:03
  end
• 8:03
  at
• 8:03
  the
• 8:04
  boundaries
• 8:04
  of
• 8:04
  the
• 8:05
  body.
• 8:06
  If
• 8:06
  it
• 8:06
  doesn't
• 8:06
  enter
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  boundary
• 8:07
  of
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  body,
• 8:09
  then
• 8:09
  where
• 8:09
  does
• 8:10
  that
• 8:10
  end?
• 8:11
  It
• 8:11
  doesn't
• 8:12
  end.
• 8:13
  It's
• 8:13
  indefinite.
• 8:14
  And
• 8:15
  that
• 8:15
  is
• 8:15
  how
• 8:16
  most
• 8:16
  teaching
• 8:17
  think
• 8:17
  of
• 8:18
  presence
• 8:18
  as
• 8:19
  the
• 8:20
  ground
• 8:20
  of
• 8:20
  everything.
• 8:21
  Not
• 8:21
  just
• 8:21
  the
• 8:22
  nature
• 8:22
  of
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  soul,
• 8:22
  but
• 8:23
  the
• 8:24
  nature
• 8:24
  of
• 8:24
  everything.
• 8:25
  It
• 8:25
  is
• 8:26
  what
• 8:26
  it
• 8:27
  is
• 8:27
  everywhere.
• 8:29
  Sometimes
• 8:29
  people
• 8:30
  talk
• 8:30
  about
• 8:30
  consciousness
• 8:31
  is
• 8:31
  everywhere
• 8:32
  and
• 8:32
  the
• 8:32
  nature
• 8:32
  of
• 8:32
  everything.
• 8:34
  Presence
• 8:34
  is
• 8:35
  talking
• 8:35
  about
• 8:35
  consciousness.
• 8:36
  But
• 8:36
  about
• 8:38
  as
• 8:38
  I
• 8:38
  said,
• 8:38
  Sat
• 8:39
  Chitananda
• 8:40
  means
• 8:41
  existence,
• 8:42
  consciousness,
• 8:43
  bliss.
• 8:44
  These
• 8:44
  are
• 8:44
  the
• 8:45
  three
• 8:45
  properties
• 8:46
  of
• 8:46
  true
• 8:46
  nature.
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  mean,
• 8:48
  according
• 8:49
  to
• 8:49
  that
• 8:49
  tradition,
• 8:50
  the
• 8:51
  first
• 8:51
  one,
• 8:51
  the
• 8:51
  essential
• 8:52
  one,
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  existence
• 8:53
  which
• 8:53
  is
• 8:53
  the
• 8:53
  presence.
• 8:55
  Then
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  fact
• 8:56
  that's
• 8:56
  conscious,
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  presence
• 8:57
  conscious,
• 8:57
  conscious
• 8:58
  of
• 8:58
  itself,
• 8:58
  knows
• 8:59
  itself.
• 8:59
  And
• 9:00
  then
• 9:00
  under
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  fact,
• 9:01
  it
• 9:01
  feels
• 9:01
  good.
• 9:03
  That's
• 9:03
  good.
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  just
• 9:04
  wanted
• 9:04
  to
• 9:04
  mention
• 9:05
  too,
• 9:05
  as
• 9:06
  you
• 9:06
  talk
• 9:06
  about.
• 9:06
  We
• 9:06
  talked
• 9:07
  about
• 9:07
  it
• 9:07
  before,
• 9:07
  but
• 9:08
  the.
• 9:08
  The
• 9:08
  essential
• 9:09
  qualities
• 9:10
  that
• 9:10
  are
• 9:10
  necessary
• 9:10
  for
• 9:11
  this
• 9:11
  work
• 9:12
  is
• 9:13
  love
• 9:13
  of
• 9:14
  the
• 9:14
  truth
• 9:14
  and
• 9:15
  curiosity.
• 9:16
  I've
• 9:16
  taken
• 9:16
  that
• 9:17
  into
• 9:17
  studying
• 9:17
  your
• 9:17
  works
• 9:18
  and
• 9:18
  that
• 9:18
  just
• 9:18
  keeps
• 9:18
  coming
• 9:19
  back
• 9:19
  as
• 9:19
  a.
• 9:19
  As
• 9:20
  a
• 9:20
  refrain.
• 9:20
  It's
• 9:21
  very
• 9:21
  moving
• 9:22
  to
• 9:22
  me.
• 9:23
  Yeah.
• 9:23
  For
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  path,
• 9:24
  for
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  inner
• 9:25
  journey,
• 9:26
  what
• 9:27
  really
• 9:27
  works
• 9:29
  is
• 9:30
  loving
• 9:30
  truth,
• 9:31
  not
• 9:31
  because
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  want
• 9:32
  something
• 9:33
  from
• 9:33
  it,
• 9:33
  but
• 9:34
  three
• 9:34
  love.
• 9:34
  When
• 9:34
  you
• 9:34
  love
• 9:35
  something,
• 9:36
  love
• 9:36
  somebody,
• 9:36
  for
• 9:37
  instance,
• 9:38
  the
• 9:38
  true
• 9:38
  love,
• 9:39
  it's
• 9:39
  not
• 9:39
  because
• 9:39
  you
• 9:39
  want
• 9:40
  something.
• 9:40
  You
• 9:41
  just
• 9:41
  love
• 9:41
  them.
• 9:41
  You
• 9:42
  just.
• 9:42
  You
• 9:42
  think
• 9:42
  they're
• 9:43
  wonderful,
• 9:44
  Right?
• 9:44
  Same
• 9:45
  thing
• 9:45
  with
• 9:46
  loving
• 9:47
  truth.
• 9:48
  You
• 9:48
  love
• 9:48
  it
• 9:49
  for
• 9:49
  itself.
• 9:50
  Not
• 9:50
  because
• 9:50
  we
• 9:50
  want
• 9:51
  something
• 9:51
  from
• 9:51
  it.
• 9:52
  And
• 9:53
  this
• 9:53
  kind
• 9:54
  of
• 9:54
  love
• 9:55
  naturally
• 9:55
  appears
• 9:56
  at
• 9:56
  the
• 9:56
  heart
• 9:56
  at
• 9:57
  some
• 9:57
  point
• 9:58
  when
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  soul
• 9:59
  matures.
• 10:00
  Thus
• 10:00
  loving
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  truth.
• 10:02
  I
• 10:02
  mean,
• 10:03
  we
• 10:03
  know
• 10:03
  it
• 10:04
  exists
• 10:04
  in
• 10:04
  our
• 10:05
  science
• 10:06
  and
• 10:07
  general
• 10:07
  society.
• 10:08
  People
• 10:08
  want
• 10:08
  to
• 10:09
  find
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  truth.
• 10:09
  They
• 10:09
  keep
• 10:09
  talking
• 10:10
  about
• 10:10
  the
• 10:10
  truth.
• 10:10
  And
• 10:11
  these
• 10:11
  days
• 10:11
  they
• 10:11
  say
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  truth
• 10:12
  is
• 10:12
  lost.
• 10:12
  Nobody
• 10:13
  would
• 10:13
  know
• 10:13
  what
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  truth
• 10:14
  is
• 10:14
  because
• 10:15
  of
• 10:15
  misinformation,
• 10:16
  information,
• 10:16
  all
• 10:16
  of
• 10:16
  that.
• 10:16
  And
• 10:17
  that's
• 10:17
  true
• 10:18
  making
• 10:18
  things.
• 10:19
  But
• 10:19
  the
• 10:19
  truth
• 10:19
  that
• 10:20
  science
• 10:20
  talk
• 10:21
  about
• 10:21
  is
• 10:21
  external
• 10:22
  truth.
• 10:22
  That
• 10:22
  can
• 10:22
  be
• 10:23
  ascertained
• 10:24
  with
• 10:24
  experiment.
• 10:25
  Here
• 10:25
  we're
• 10:26
  talking
• 10:26
  about
• 10:26
  truth
• 10:26
  that
• 10:27
  is
• 10:27
  experienced,
• 10:28
  you
• 10:28
  know,
• 10:29
  that
• 10:29
  Is
• 10:29
  known
• 10:30
  as
• 10:30
  certain
• 10:30
  through
• 10:31
  direct
• 10:31
  experience.
• 10:32
  And
• 10:32
  that
• 10:32
  brings
• 10:33
  certainty
• 10:35
  of
• 10:35
  what
• 10:36
  it
• 10:36
  is.
• 10:37
  So,
• 10:38
  you
• 10:38
  know,
• 10:39
  to
• 10:39
  go
• 10:39
  from
• 10:39
  the
• 10:39
  simplest
• 10:40
  thing
• 10:40
  to
• 10:40
  the
• 10:41
  most
• 10:41
  profound
• 10:42
  thing,
• 10:42
  truth,
• 10:43
  it's
• 10:43
  not
• 10:43
  one
• 10:44
  thing.
• 10:44
  Although
• 10:44
  there
• 10:45
  is
• 10:45
  an
• 10:45
  aspect
• 10:45
  of
• 10:46
  truth
• 10:47
  that
• 10:47
  help
• 10:47
  us
• 10:47
  know
• 10:48
  what.
• 10:48
  Whether
• 10:48
  this
• 10:49
  is
• 10:49
  true
• 10:49
  or
• 10:49
  not.
• 10:50
  However,
• 10:51
  the
• 10:52
  content
• 10:52
  of
• 10:53
  what
• 10:53
  we
• 10:53
  call
• 10:53
  truth
• 10:54
  can
• 10:54
  be
• 10:54
  anything,
• 10:55
  can
• 10:55
  be
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  fact
• 10:55
  that
• 10:56
  we're
• 10:56
  talking
• 10:56
  this
• 10:56
  is
• 10:57
  truth.
• 10:58
  And
• 10:59
  the
• 10:59
  fact
• 10:59
  that
• 10:59
  we
• 11:00
  are
• 11:01
  pure
• 11:02
  existence,
• 11:03
  that
• 11:03
  is
• 11:03
  truth.
• 11:05
  You
• 11:05
  know,
• 11:07
  so
• 11:07
  loving
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  truth,
• 11:08
  wanting
• 11:08
  to
• 11:08
  find
• 11:08
  the
• 11:08
  truth,
• 11:09
  because
• 11:09
  the
• 11:09
  truth
• 11:09
  is
• 11:10
  a
• 11:10
  dynamic,
• 11:11
  evolving,
• 11:12
  transforming,
• 11:13
  deepening.
• 11:14
  If
• 11:14
  we
• 11:15
  really
• 11:15
  love
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  truth,
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  truth
• 11:17
  can
• 11:18
  reveal
• 11:18
  more
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  more
• 11:19
  of
• 11:19
  what
• 11:19
  it
• 11:19
  is.
• 11:20
  And
• 11:20
  that
• 11:21
  becomes
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  most
• 11:22
  powerful
• 11:23
  way
• 11:24
  of
• 11:24
  what's
• 11:25
  called
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  enlightenment
• 11:26
  drive,
• 11:26
  the
• 11:27
  drive
• 11:28
  toward
• 11:28
  liberation.
• 11:29
  People
• 11:30
  sometimes
• 11:30
  talk
• 11:31
  about,
• 11:31
  I
• 11:31
  want
• 11:31
  to
• 11:32
  be
• 11:32
  free,
• 11:32
  I
• 11:32
  want
• 11:32
  to
• 11:32
  be
• 11:32
  liberated.
• 11:33
  I
• 11:33
  want
• 11:33
  to
• 11:33
  be
• 11:33
  free
• 11:33
  of
• 11:34
  suffering,
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  want
• 11:35
  the
• 11:35
  meaning
• 11:35
  of
• 11:35
  life.
• 11:37
  All
• 11:37
  of
• 11:37
  those
• 11:37
  are
• 11:38
  different
• 11:38
  ways
• 11:39
  of
• 11:39
  saying,
• 11:39
  I
• 11:40
  love
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  truth.
• 11:40
  I
• 11:41
  want
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  truth.
• 11:42
  So
• 11:42
  love
• 11:42
  the
• 11:43
  truth
• 11:43
  is
• 11:43
  the
• 11:43
  most
• 11:43
  obvious,
• 11:44
  most
• 11:44
  specific,
• 11:45
  clearest
• 11:46
  expression
• 11:47
  of
• 11:48
  that
• 11:48
  deep,
• 11:50
  true
• 11:51
  movement
• 11:51
  of
• 11:52
  the
• 11:52
  heart
• 11:54
  for
• 11:54
  its
• 11:54
  own
• 11:54
  sake.
• 11:56
  As
• 11:56
  the
• 11:57
  discovery
• 11:57
  of
• 11:58
  truth
• 11:58
  deepens
• 11:59
  and
• 11:59
  opens
• 12:00
  into
• 12:01
  true
• 12:01
  nature.
• 12:02
  You
• 12:03
  talk
• 12:03
  about
• 12:03
  the
• 12:04
  paradox
• 12:05
  of
• 12:05
  this,
• 12:05
  that
• 12:06
  this
• 12:06
  is
• 12:06
  as
• 12:07
  profound
• 12:07
  a
• 12:07
  realization
• 12:08
  as
• 12:09
  a
• 12:09
  human
• 12:09
  being
• 12:09
  can
• 12:10
  have.
• 12:11
  And
• 12:11
  yet
• 12:11
  it's.
• 12:12
  There's
• 12:12
  a
• 12:12
  real
• 12:13
  challenge
• 12:13
  in
• 12:14
  describing
• 12:15
  it,
• 12:16
  that
• 12:16
  this
• 12:16
  is
• 12:16
  beyond
• 12:17
  our
• 12:17
  concepts
• 12:18
  and
• 12:18
  categories.
• 12:19
  So
• 12:19
  before
• 12:20
  maybe
• 12:20
  we
• 12:20
  dive
• 12:21
  into
• 12:21
  true
• 12:21
  nature
• 12:22
  itself,
• 12:22
  maybe
• 12:22
  you
• 12:22
  could
• 12:23
  talk
• 12:23
  about
• 12:23
  some
• 12:23
  of
• 12:23
  the
• 12:24
  challenges
• 12:24
  that
• 12:25
  we
• 12:25
  find
• 12:26
  here
• 12:26
  and
• 12:26
  even
• 12:26
  discussing
• 12:27
  it.
• 12:27
  Well,
• 12:28
  that's
• 12:28
  one
• 12:29
  thing
• 12:29
  is
• 12:30
  many
• 12:30
  of
• 12:30
  the
• 12:30
  teaching
• 12:31
  take
• 12:31
  the
• 12:31
  position
• 12:32
  that
• 12:32
  it
• 12:33
  is
• 12:33
  better
• 12:33
  not
• 12:33
  to
• 12:34
  describe,
• 12:36
  you
• 12:36
  know,
• 12:37
  and
• 12:37
  many
• 12:38
  teachings
• 12:38
  shy
• 12:39
  away
• 12:39
  from
• 12:39
  it.
• 12:41
  And
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  concern
• 12:42
  is
• 12:43
  that
• 12:43
  if
• 12:43
  you
• 12:44
  describe
• 12:46
  will
• 12:46
  stick
• 12:46
  in
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  mind.
• 12:47
  And
• 12:47
  people
• 12:47
  will
• 12:48
  make
• 12:48
  it
• 12:48
  an
• 12:49
  aim
• 12:49
  and
• 12:49
  start
• 12:50
  looking
• 12:50
  for
• 12:50
  something,
• 12:50
  but
• 12:51
  they'll
• 12:51
  be
• 12:51
  looking
• 12:51
  for
• 12:52
  something
• 12:52
  that
• 12:53
  idea
• 12:53
  in
• 12:54
  their
• 12:54
  mind,
• 12:54
  which
• 12:54
  is
• 12:55
  not
• 12:55
  necessarily
• 12:55
  exactly
• 12:56
  what
• 12:56
  the
• 12:56
  truth
• 12:57
  is.
• 12:57
  And
• 12:58
  there
• 12:58
  is
• 12:59
  a
• 12:59
  truth
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  that.
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  think
• 13:01
  I
• 13:01
  see
• 13:01
  that
• 13:02
  happening
• 13:02
  in
• 13:02
  some
• 13:03
  student.
• 13:04
  However,
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  don't
• 13:05
  take
• 13:05
  that
• 13:06
  route.
• 13:07
  I
• 13:08
  think
• 13:08
  actually
• 13:09
  giving
• 13:09
  a
• 13:09
  very
• 13:11
  detailed
• 13:12
  phenomenological
• 13:13
  description
• 13:15
  of
• 13:15
  the
• 13:15
  truth
• 13:16
  of
• 13:17
  whatever
• 13:17
  true
• 13:17
  nature
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  manifest.
• 13:18
  I'm
• 13:20
  teaching
• 13:21
  while
• 13:21
  I
• 13:22
  am
• 13:22
  in
• 13:22
  the
• 13:22
  state.
• 13:24
  Help.
• 13:25
  The
• 13:25
  transmission
• 13:26
  orients
• 13:27
  the
• 13:27
  mind
• 13:28
  and
• 13:28
  heart
• 13:29
  toward
• 13:29
  receiving
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  transmission
• 13:30
  of
• 13:31
  the
• 13:31
  truth.
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  am
• 13:32
  teaching,
• 13:33
  so
• 13:33
  describing
• 13:34
  it
• 13:34
  can
• 13:35
  become
• 13:35
  really.
• 13:36
  Even
• 13:36
  though
• 13:37
  some
• 13:37
  people
• 13:37
  can
• 13:38
  use
• 13:38
  as
• 13:38
  a
• 13:38
  barrier,
• 13:39
  it
• 13:39
  actually
• 13:40
  helps
• 13:40
  more.
• 13:41
  More
• 13:41
  people
• 13:41
  access
• 13:42
  truth
• 13:42
  that
• 13:43
  way
• 13:43
  than
• 13:44
  by
• 13:44
  not
• 13:44
  describing
• 13:45
  it.
• 13:45
  That's
• 13:45
  my.
• 13:46
  Yeah,
• 13:47
  you
• 13:47
  do
• 13:47
  it
• 13:47
  brilliantly
• 13:48
  in
• 13:49
  this
• 13:49
  book,
• 13:49
  Hamid.
• 13:50
  Yeah.
• 13:50
  So
• 13:50
  you
• 13:51
  signed
• 13:51
  it,
• 13:51
  you
• 13:52
  find
• 13:52
  it
• 13:52
  in
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  book.
• 13:53
  Oh,
• 13:53
  my
• 13:53
  God.
• 13:54
  I
• 13:54
  have
• 13:54
  a
• 13:54
  couple
• 13:54
  of
• 13:54
  passages
• 13:55
  I
• 13:55
  would
• 13:55
  like
• 13:55
  you
• 13:55
  to
• 13:56
  read
• 13:56
  that
• 13:56
  have
• 13:56
  just,
• 13:57
  just.
• 13:57
  They're
• 13:58
  exquisite.
• 13:58
  John,
• 13:59
  since
• 13:59
  not
• 13:59
  everyone
• 14:00
  will
• 14:00
  be
• 14:00
  watching
• 14:01
  the
• 14:01
  video,
• 14:01
  maybe
• 14:01
  you
• 14:01
  could
• 14:01
  just
• 14:02
  give
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  name
• 14:02
  of
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  book
• 14:03
  you're
• 14:03
  talking
• 14:03
  about.
• 14:03
  Yeah,
• 14:03
  it's
• 14:04
  Lumin
• 14:04
  this
• 14:04
  Night's
• 14:05
  Journey,
• 14:05
  an
• 14:05
  autobiographical
• 14:07
  fragment.
• 14:08
  So
• 14:09
  these
• 14:09
  are.
• 14:10
  He
• 14:10
  was
• 14:10
  writing
• 14:10
  these.
• 14:11
  You
• 14:11
  were
• 14:11
  writing
• 14:11
  these
• 14:12
  down
• 14:12
  as
• 14:12
  they
• 14:13
  were
• 14:13
  coming
• 14:13
  to
• 14:13
  you.
• 14:14
  And
• 14:14
  we
• 14:14
  get
• 14:14
  to
• 14:14
  experience
• 14:16
  how
• 14:16
  they
• 14:16
  came
• 14:16
  to
• 14:17
  you
• 14:17
  and
• 14:18
  kind
• 14:18
  of
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  conflicts
• 14:19
  between
• 14:20
  absolute
• 14:20
  and
• 14:21
  being
• 14:21
  a
• 14:21
  human
• 14:22
  being
• 14:22
  in
• 14:22
  life
• 14:23
  and
• 14:23
  how
• 14:23
  you.
• 14:24
  You
• 14:24
  were
• 14:24
  able
• 14:24
  to
• 14:25
  integrate
• 14:25
  that.
• 14:25
  And
• 14:26
  I'm
• 14:26
  not
• 14:26
  going
• 14:26
  to
• 14:26
  say
• 14:26
  all
• 14:26
  that
• 14:27
  stuff
• 14:27
  that's
• 14:27
  for
• 14:27
  you
• 14:27
  to
• 14:27
  say,
• 14:28
  but,
• 14:28
  yeah,
• 14:28
  it's
• 14:29
  an
• 14:29
  amazing
• 14:29
  book.
• 14:29
  And
• 14:29
  let
• 14:30
  me.
• 14:30
  This
• 14:30
  is
• 14:31
  a
• 14:31
  partial
• 14:32
  paragraph
• 14:33
  from
• 14:33
  the
• 14:33
  introduction.
• 14:35
  Towards
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  second
• 14:36
  part
• 14:36
  of
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  spontaneously
• 14:38
  unfolding
• 14:38
  revelation
• 14:39
  of
• 14:39
  being,
• 14:41
  my
• 14:41
  process
• 14:42
  became
• 14:43
  focused
• 14:43
  not
• 14:44
  on
• 14:44
  the
• 14:44
  experience
• 14:44
  of
• 14:45
  being
• 14:45
  and
• 14:46
  its
• 14:46
  essential
• 14:46
  manifestations,
• 14:47
  but
• 14:48
  on
• 14:48
  the
• 14:48
  shift
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  identity
• 14:49
  to
• 14:50
  being.
• 14:51
  This
• 14:52
  led
• 14:52
  to
• 14:52
  the
• 14:52
  development
• 14:53
  of
• 14:53
  self
• 14:54
  recognition
• 14:55
  in
• 14:55
  an
• 14:55
  increasing
• 14:56
  subtler
• 14:56
  and
• 14:57
  more
• 14:57
  profound
• 14:57
  dimensions
• 14:58
  of
• 14:58
  being,
• 14:59
  culminating
• 15:00
  in
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  realization
• 15:00
  of
• 15:01
  the
• 15:01
  absolute.
• 15:02
  Then
• 15:03
  this
• 15:03
  ushered
• 15:04
  into
• 15:04
  a
• 15:05
  subtle
• 15:05
  process
• 15:06
  of
• 15:06
  the
• 15:06
  clarification
• 15:07
  of
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  soul
• 15:09
  to
• 15:09
  the
• 15:09
  degree
• 15:10
  necessary
• 15:11
  for
• 15:11
  it
• 15:11
  to
• 15:11
  be
• 15:11
  a
• 15:12
  personal
• 15:12
  vehicle
• 15:13
  for
• 15:13
  absolute
• 15:14
  nature.
• 15:16
  So
• 15:17
  that
• 15:17
  sort
• 15:18
  of
• 15:18
  basically
• 15:19
  sums
• 15:19
  up
• 15:20
  why
• 15:20
  I
• 15:20
  wrote
• 15:20
  the
• 15:20
  book.
• 15:22
  And
• 15:22
  I
• 15:23
  wrote
• 15:23
  it
• 15:23
  for
• 15:23
  a
• 15:24
  specific
• 15:24
  reason,
• 15:24
  John.
• 15:26
  Because
• 15:28
  it's
• 15:28
  difficult
• 15:29
  to
• 15:29
  find
• 15:29
  a
• 15:29
  book
• 15:30
  or
• 15:30
  a
• 15:31
  teaching
• 15:31
  that
• 15:32
  actually
• 15:32
  spells
• 15:33
  that
• 15:33
  out.
• 15:34
  Yes,
• 15:34
  you
• 15:35
  see,
• 15:35
  everybody
• 15:36
  talks
• 15:36
  either
• 15:36
  about
• 15:36
  the
• 15:37
  soul
• 15:37
  or
• 15:38
  about
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  absolute.
• 15:39
  You
• 15:39
  know,
• 15:39
  the
• 15:39
  non
• 15:40
  dualists
• 15:40
  talk
• 15:40
  about
• 15:41
  the
• 15:41
  absolute.
• 15:42
  You
• 15:42
  go
• 15:42
  to
• 15:42
  the
• 15:43
  Sufi,
• 15:43
  the
• 15:44
  Kabbalah
• 15:44
  talk
• 15:44
  about
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  soul
• 15:45
  mostly.
• 15:46
  But
• 15:47
  what
• 15:47
  is
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
  relationship
• 15:48
  between
• 15:48
  them?
• 15:49
  You
• 15:49
  know,
• 15:50
  because
• 15:50
  each,
• 15:51
  like
• 15:51
  the
• 15:52
  non
• 15:52
  dualists,
• 15:53
  they
• 15:53
  think
• 15:53
  of
• 15:53
  the
• 15:53
  soul
• 15:54
  as
• 15:54
  an
• 15:54
  illusion.
• 15:55
  They
• 15:55
  don't
• 15:56
  believe
• 15:57
  it's
• 15:57
  just
• 15:57
  an
• 15:58
  individual.
• 15:59
  Any
• 15:59
  individual
• 16:00
  is
• 16:00
  an
• 16:00
  illusion
• 16:01
  as
• 16:01
  a
• 16:02
  form
• 16:02
  that
• 16:02
  appears
• 16:03
  in
• 16:03
  the
• 16:03
  absolute.
• 16:04
  And
• 16:04
  it
• 16:04
  is
• 16:05
  not.
• 16:06
  Here
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  show
• 16:07
  that
• 16:08
  the
• 16:08
  soul
• 16:08
  is
• 16:09
  significant.
• 16:11
  Without
• 16:11
  it,
• 16:12
  there
• 16:12
  is
• 16:13
  no
• 16:13
  experience
• 16:13
  of
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  absolute.
• 16:14
  And
• 16:15
  not
• 16:15
  only
• 16:15
  that,
• 16:15
  the
• 16:16
  absolute
• 16:16
  need
• 16:17
  to
• 16:17
  purify
• 16:18
  the
• 16:18
  soul
• 16:20
  so
• 16:21
  that
• 16:21
  the
• 16:21
  soul
• 16:21
  become
• 16:22
  a
• 16:22
  vehicle
• 16:22
  for
• 16:23
  expressing
• 16:23
  it.
• 16:24
  And
• 16:25
  this
• 16:25
  is
• 16:25
  actually
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  other.
• 16:27
  Another
• 16:27
  person
• 16:28
  who
• 16:28
  wrote
• 16:28
  about
• 16:29
  is
• 16:29
  St.
• 16:29
  John
• 16:29
  the
• 16:30
  Cross
• 16:31
  in
• 16:31
  the
• 16:31
  Dark
• 16:31
  Night
• 16:32
  of
• 16:32
  the
• 16:32
  Soul.
• 16:32
  In
• 16:33
  fact,
• 16:33
  it's
• 16:33
  the
• 16:34
  same
• 16:35
  direction
• 16:35
  he
• 16:36
  takes,
• 16:37
  how
• 16:37
  the
• 16:38
  soul
• 16:38
  becomes
• 16:38
  infused
• 16:39
  by
• 16:40
  the
• 16:40
  darkness
• 16:40
  of
• 16:40
  the
• 16:41
  absolute,
• 16:42
  so
• 16:42
  it
• 16:42
  becomes
• 16:45
  its
• 16:45
  own,
• 16:45
  its
• 16:46
  expression.
• 16:47
  So
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  wrote
• 16:48
  that
• 16:49
  book
• 16:49
  really,
• 16:49
  because
• 16:50
  I
• 16:50
  thought
• 16:51
  it's
• 16:51
  needed
• 16:51
  in
• 16:52
  the
• 16:52
  literature,
• 16:54
  because
• 16:55
  there
• 16:55
  isn't
• 16:57
  clear.
• 16:57
  Even
• 16:57
  St.
• 16:58
  John
• 16:58
  doesn't
• 16:59
  go
• 16:59
  into
• 16:59
  the
• 16:59
  details
• 17:00
  of
• 17:00
  what
• 17:00
  happens
• 17:01
  in
• 17:02
  the
• 17:02
  state.
• 17:02
  He
• 17:02
  talks
• 17:03
  only
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  purification
• 17:04
  process,
• 17:05
  you
• 17:05
  know,
• 17:06
  the
• 17:06
  denudement.
• 17:07
  But
• 17:08
  here,
• 17:08
  this
• 17:08
  talks
• 17:09
  about
• 17:09
  all
• 17:09
  the
• 17:09
  different
• 17:10
  sides
• 17:10
  and
• 17:11
  what
• 17:11
  happened
• 17:11
  in
• 17:11
  the
• 17:12
  Experience
• 17:12
  of
• 17:12
  the
• 17:13
  soul
• 17:13
  and
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  absolutes
• 17:14
  and
• 17:14
  how
• 17:14
  they
• 17:14
  integrate
• 17:15
  and
• 17:15
  they
• 17:15
  become
• 17:16
  one.
• 17:17
  I
• 17:17
  don't
• 17:17
  know.
• 17:18
  That's
• 17:19
  largely
• 17:19
  what
• 17:19
  this
• 17:19
  book
• 17:20
  is
• 17:20
  about.
• 17:20
  Yeah.
• 17:21
  And
• 17:21
  I
• 17:22
  think
• 17:22
  of
• 17:22
  it
• 17:23
  as
• 17:23
  a
• 17:23
  very
• 17:23
  important
• 17:24
  book.
• 17:24
  Many
• 17:24
  people
• 17:25
  don't
• 17:25
  get
• 17:25
  it,
• 17:25
  don't
• 17:26
  know
• 17:26
  how
• 17:26
  important
• 17:27
  it
• 17:27
  is.
• 17:28
  Well,
• 17:28
  part
• 17:28
  either
• 17:29
  because
• 17:29
  they
• 17:29
  don't
• 17:30
  know
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  absolute
• 17:31
  is
• 17:31
  experience
• 17:31
  or
• 17:32
  they
• 17:32
  don't
• 17:32
  know
• 17:32
  the
• 17:32
  soul.
• 17:33
  But
• 17:33
  if
• 17:33
  you
• 17:33
  know
• 17:33
  both
• 17:34
  and
• 17:34
  you
• 17:34
  wonder
• 17:35
  what
• 17:35
  happened,
• 17:36
  then
• 17:37
  you
• 17:37
  know.
• 17:37
  And
• 17:38
  Hamid,
• 17:39
  in
• 17:39
  you're
• 17:39
  speaking
• 17:40
  about
• 17:40
  it,
• 17:40
  and
• 17:40
  I'm
• 17:40
  going
• 17:40
  to
• 17:40
  read
• 17:41
  a
• 17:41
  passage
• 17:41
  later
• 17:41
  that
• 17:42
  just
• 17:42
  kills
• 17:43
  it.
• 17:43
  You
• 17:43
  talked
• 17:43
  about
• 17:44
  the
• 17:44
  absolute
• 17:45
  being
• 17:46
  darkness,
• 17:47
  yet
• 17:48
  intimate.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:51
  in
• 17:51
  one
• 17:51
  part
• 17:51
  you
• 17:51
  said
• 17:51
  there's
• 17:52
  no
• 17:52
  consciousness,
• 17:53
  only
• 17:53
  awareness
• 17:54
  remains.
• 17:55
  Another
• 17:56
  passage,
• 17:56
  you
• 17:56
  said
• 17:57
  that
• 17:58
  once
• 17:58
  you're
• 17:58
  there,
• 17:59
  there's
• 17:59
  no
• 17:59
  place
• 18:00
  deeper
• 18:00
  to
• 18:00
  go
• 18:00
  because
• 18:01
  if
• 18:01
  you
• 18:01
  start
• 18:01
  going
• 18:01
  in
• 18:02
  any
• 18:02
  direction,
• 18:02
  you
• 18:02
  start
• 18:03
  running
• 18:03
  into
• 18:03
  manifestation
• 18:04
  again.
• 18:05
  So
• 18:05
  the
• 18:05
  absolute
• 18:06
  is
• 18:06
  absolute.
• 18:09
  Yeah.
• 18:10
  So
• 18:10
  this
• 18:11
  is
• 18:12
  the
• 18:12
  depth
• 18:13
  of
• 18:13
  the.
• 18:14
  What
• 18:14
  I
• 18:14
  call
• 18:14
  the
• 18:15
  second
• 18:15
  turning
• 18:15
  of
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  teaching.
• 18:17
  Because
• 18:18
  we
• 18:18
  here,
• 18:18
  we're
• 18:19
  transitioning
• 18:20
  about
• 18:20
  true
• 18:21
  nature
• 18:21
  of
• 18:21
  presence
• 18:22
  from
• 18:22
  the
• 18:23
  individual
• 18:23
  to
• 18:24
  the.
• 18:24
  To
• 18:25
  the
• 18:25
  impersonal
• 18:26
  or
• 18:26
  the
• 18:26
  boundless
• 18:27
  dimension
• 18:28
  of
• 18:29
  true
• 18:29
  nature.
• 18:30
  And
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  absolute
• 18:31
  is
• 18:31
  the
• 18:31
  depth
• 18:32
  of
• 18:32
  that
• 18:34
  depth
• 18:34
  or
• 18:34
  the
• 18:35
  ground
• 18:36
  of
• 18:36
  all
• 18:37
  manifestation
• 18:38
  of
• 18:39
  presence
• 18:39
  and
• 18:40
  world.
• 18:42
  This
• 18:42
  is
• 18:42
  for
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  second
• 18:43
  turning.
• 18:43
  You
• 18:44
  know,
• 18:44
  as
• 18:44
  you
• 18:44
  know,
• 18:44
  in
• 18:44
  this
• 18:45
  teaching,
• 18:45
  I
• 18:45
  have
• 18:45
  third,
• 18:46
  fourth
• 18:46
  turning,
• 18:47
  other
• 18:47
  things
• 18:48
  different
• 18:48
  than
• 18:48
  the
• 18:49
  absolute,
• 18:50
  but
• 18:50
  the
• 18:51
  absolute
• 18:51
  as
• 18:51
  we
• 18:52
  experience
• 18:52
  it,
• 18:52
  we
• 18:53
  experience
• 18:53
  it
• 18:53
  as
• 18:54
  the
• 18:55
  final
• 18:56
  nature
• 18:56
  of
• 18:56
  everything.
• 18:57
  And
• 18:57
  that
• 18:57
  is
• 18:57
  how
• 18:58
  many
• 18:58
  teachings
• 18:58
  take
• 18:59
  it,
• 18:59
  including
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  Sufis
• 19:01
  and
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  Kabbalah.
• 19:02
  Even
• 19:02
  though
• 19:02
  they
• 19:02
  don't
• 19:03
  focus
• 19:03
  on
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  pont
• 19:04
  and
• 19:05
  non
• 19:05
  dual,
• 19:06
  it's
• 19:06
  still,
• 19:07
  for
• 19:07
  them
• 19:07
  it
• 19:07
  is
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  mystery,
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  deeper
• 19:10
  mystery.
• 19:11
  Of
• 19:11
  course,
• 19:12
  for
• 19:12
  the
• 19:13
  Indian,
• 19:14
  it's
• 19:15
  the
• 19:15
  Brahmin
• 19:17
  para
• 19:17
  Brahman.
• 19:18
  They
• 19:18
  describe
• 19:19
  it
• 19:19
  that
• 19:19
  way.
• 19:20
  For
• 19:20
  the
• 19:21
  Buddhist,
• 19:22
  it's
• 19:23
  what
• 19:23
  they
• 19:23
  call
• 19:24
  it
• 19:24
  dharmakaya,
• 19:26
  you
• 19:26
  know,
• 19:26
  so
• 19:26
  it's
• 19:27
  the
• 19:27
  fundamental
• 19:28
  ground
• 19:28
  of
• 19:28
  awareness.
• 19:31
  So,
• 19:31
  yeah,
• 19:32
  so
• 19:32
  we're
• 19:32
  transitioning
• 19:33
  in
• 19:33
  this
• 19:33
  meeting
• 19:34
  into
• 19:34
  talking
• 19:35
  about
• 19:36
  true
• 19:36
  nature
• 19:37
  as
• 19:38
  not
• 19:38
  as
• 19:39
  what
• 19:40
  we
• 19:40
  experience
• 19:40
  within
• 19:41
  us,
• 19:42
  but
• 19:42
  as
• 19:44
  a
• 19:45
  more
• 19:45
  fundamental,
• 19:46
  larger
• 19:48
  category,
• 19:49
  which
• 19:49
  is
• 19:49
  that
• 19:50
  what
• 19:50
  manifests
• 19:50
  with
• 19:51
  us
• 19:51
  is
• 19:51
  just
• 19:51
  how
• 19:52
  we
• 19:52
  experience
• 19:52
  it,
• 19:53
  but
• 19:53
  it
• 19:53
  is
• 19:53
  really
• 19:54
  possible
• 19:54
  to
• 19:55
  experience
• 19:55
  it
• 19:55
  as
• 19:56
  everywhere.
• 19:58
  And
• 19:58
  Namid,
• 19:59
  you
• 19:59
  emphasize
• 20:00
  that
• 20:01
  one
• 20:01
  really
• 20:01
  needs
• 20:02
  to
• 20:02
  acknowledge
• 20:03
  that
• 20:03
  there
• 20:03
  are
• 20:04
  two
• 20:04
  expressions
• 20:05
  of
• 20:05
  true
• 20:06
  nature.
• 20:06
  Usually
• 20:07
  refer
• 20:07
  to
• 20:07
  them
• 20:08
  as
• 20:08
  unmanifest
• 20:09
  and
• 20:09
  manifest,
• 20:10
  and
• 20:11
  that
• 20:12
  both
• 20:12
  have
• 20:12
  to
• 20:13
  be.
• 20:14
  Both
• 20:14
  need
• 20:14
  to
• 20:15
  be
• 20:15
  recognized
• 20:15
  and
• 20:16
  investigated.
• 20:18
  Yes.
• 20:19
  Yeah,
• 20:20
  because
• 20:21
  some
• 20:21
  teachings
• 20:22
  talk
• 20:22
  about
• 20:22
  that
• 20:25
  the
• 20:25
  manifest
• 20:26
  is
• 20:26
  what
• 20:27
  appears
• 20:28
  in
• 20:28
  experience.
• 20:30
  And
• 20:30
  manifest
• 20:30
  is
• 20:31
  a
• 20:31
  source
• 20:31
  that
• 20:31
  is
• 20:32
  invisible,
• 20:33
  that
• 20:33
  we
• 20:33
  can
• 20:34
  feel
• 20:34
  or
• 20:34
  know
• 20:35
  that
• 20:36
  everything
• 20:36
  comes
• 20:36
  from
• 20:37
  someplace
• 20:38
  invisible.
• 20:39
  We
• 20:39
  just
• 20:39
  don't
• 20:40
  see
• 20:40
  it.
• 20:41
  But
• 20:42
  we
• 20:42
  know
• 20:43
  from
• 20:43
  Experience
• 20:45
  it
• 20:45
  is.
• 20:47
  That's
• 20:47
  what
• 20:48
  I
• 20:48
  mean
• 20:48
  by
• 20:48
  unmanifest.
• 20:49
  And
• 20:50
  everything
• 20:50
  that
• 20:51
  is
• 20:52
  we
• 20:52
  you
• 20:53
  experience,
• 20:54
  it
• 20:54
  appears
• 20:55
  from
• 20:55
  non
• 20:56
  manifestation
• 20:56
  to
• 20:56
  manifestation.
• 20:57
  Because
• 20:58
  one
• 20:59
  of
• 20:59
  the
• 20:59
  dimensions
• 21:00
  I
• 21:01
  describe
• 21:01
  how
• 21:02
  everything
• 21:02
  happens.
• 21:04
  How
• 21:04
  everything
• 21:05
  happens
• 21:06
  is.
• 21:06
  Is
• 21:07
  not
• 21:07
  from
• 21:08
  the
• 21:08
  past
• 21:08
  to
• 21:08
  the
• 21:09
  future,
• 21:10
  to
• 21:10
  the
• 21:10
  present
• 21:10
  and
• 21:11
  the
• 21:11
  future,
• 21:11
  but
• 21:12
  from
• 21:12
  non
• 21:13
  being
• 21:13
  to
• 21:13
  being,
• 21:14
  from
• 21:14
  non
• 21:14
  manifestation,
• 21:16
  instant
• 21:16
  to
• 21:16
  instant.
• 21:17
  That's
• 21:17
  what
• 21:18
  Monarabi
• 21:18
  called
• 21:18
  new
• 21:19
  creation.
• 21:20
  New
• 21:21
  creation
• 21:21
  mean
• 21:21
  every
• 21:22
  moment
• 21:22
  is
• 21:22
  a
• 21:23
  new
• 21:23
  creation.
• 21:25
  Yeah.
• 21:25
  And
• 21:26
  that.
• 21:26
  I
• 21:26
  have
• 21:26
  to
• 21:26
  say
• 21:26
  that
• 21:27
  that
• 21:28
  just
• 21:30
  was
• 21:30
  like
• 21:31
  a
• 21:31
  180
• 21:31
  degree
• 21:32
  on
• 21:32
  my
• 21:32
  mind.
• 21:32
  It's
• 21:33
  like
• 21:33
  that's
• 21:33
  a
• 21:33
  radically
• 21:34
  different
• 21:35
  conception
• 21:36
  of
• 21:36
  change
• 21:37
  and
• 21:37
  transformation,
• 21:38
  etc.
• 21:39
  Etc.
• 21:40
  Yeah.
• 21:41
  I
• 21:41
  have
• 21:41
  one.
• 21:42
  One
• 21:42
  passage
• 21:43
  I
• 21:43
  want
• 21:43
  to
• 21:44
  read
• 21:44
  here
• 21:44
  again.
• 21:44
  And
• 21:44
  I'll
• 21:45
  stop
• 21:45
  reading
• 21:45
  passages,
• 21:46
  but
• 21:46
  I
• 21:46
  just
• 21:46
  had
• 21:46
  to
• 21:46
  get
• 21:46
  this
• 21:47
  in
• 21:47
  and
• 21:47
  I
• 21:47
  think
• 21:47
  it's
• 21:47
  an
• 21:48
  exquisite.
• 21:49
  You're
• 21:50
  both
• 21:50
  involved
• 21:50
  in
• 21:50
  slightly
• 21:51
  different
• 21:51
  thing.
• 21:52
  Yeah,
• 21:53
  yeah,
• 21:53
  but
• 21:53
  I.
• 21:53
  I
• 21:54
  just
• 21:54
  had
• 21:54
  to
• 21:54
  get
• 21:54
  this
• 21:54
  one
• 21:55
  in.
• 21:55
  And
• 21:55
  this
• 21:55
  is
• 21:56
  from
• 21:56
  page
• 21:56
  26
• 21:57
  of
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  Women's
• 21:58
  Night's
• 21:58
  Journey.
• 21:59
  You
• 22:00
  say,
• 22:00
  I
• 22:00
  am
• 22:01
  not
• 22:01
  the
• 22:01
  body,
• 22:03
  not
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  personality,
• 22:04
  not
• 22:05
  the
• 22:05
  essence,
• 22:05
  not
• 22:06
  the
• 22:06
  mind,
• 22:06
  not
• 22:06
  God.
• 22:07
  I
• 22:07
  am
• 22:07
  nothing
• 22:08
  that
• 22:08
  is
• 22:08
  a
• 22:08
  content
• 22:09
  of
• 22:10
  experience.
• 22:11
  Yet
• 22:11
  all
• 22:12
  experience
• 22:12
  happens
• 22:13
  within
• 22:13
  me.
• 22:15
  Everything
• 22:15
  at
• 22:15
  all
• 22:16
  levels,
• 22:17
  from
• 22:17
  spiritual
• 22:17
  to
• 22:18
  physical,
• 22:18
  happens
• 22:19
  within
• 22:19
  me.
• 22:20
  I
• 22:20
  am
• 22:21
  not
• 22:21
  touched
• 22:21
  by
• 22:21
  any
• 22:22
  of
• 22:22
  it.
• 22:22
  I
• 22:22
  am
• 22:22
  untouched,
• 22:23
  untouchable.
• 22:24
  I
• 22:24
  am
• 22:25
  unchanging.
• 22:25
  I
• 22:26
  am
• 22:26
  deathless,
• 22:27
  I
• 22:27
  am
• 22:28
  unborn.
• 22:29
  I
• 22:29
  am
• 22:29
  uncaused,
• 22:30
  unoriginated.
• 22:31
  I
• 22:32
  was
• 22:32
  never
• 22:32
  born,
• 22:32
  will
• 22:33
  never
• 22:33
  die.
• 22:34
  The
• 22:34
  concepts
• 22:34
  of
• 22:35
  life
• 22:35
  and
• 22:35
  death
• 22:35
  do
• 22:36
  not
• 22:36
  apply
• 22:36
  for
• 22:37
  me.
• 22:38
  Yeah.
• 22:39
  And
• 22:39
  that
• 22:40
  is
• 22:40
  really
• 22:40
  a
• 22:41
  description
• 22:42
  that
• 22:42
  many
• 22:42
  teachings
• 22:43
  have,
• 22:44
  you
• 22:44
  know,
• 22:44
  about
• 22:45
  the.
• 22:46
  They
• 22:46
  call
• 22:46
  it
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  ultimate
• 22:47
  nature
• 22:47
  of
• 22:48
  the
• 22:49
  Brahmin
• 22:49
  or
• 22:50
  the
• 22:51
  Dharmakaya
• 22:52
  or
• 22:52
  the
• 22:53
  Dao.
• 22:53
  When
• 22:53
  they
• 22:54
  describe
• 22:54
  it,
• 22:54
  they
• 22:54
  could
• 22:55
  sometimes
• 22:55
  use
• 22:55
  language
• 22:56
  like
• 22:56
  that,
• 22:56
  you
• 22:57
  know,
• 22:59
  because
• 22:59
  it
• 23:00
  is
• 23:01
  unborn,
• 23:01
  because
• 23:02
  it's.
• 23:03
  It
• 23:03
  is
• 23:03
  the
• 23:03
  source
• 23:04
  of
• 23:04
  everything.
• 23:04
  You
• 23:05
  know,
• 23:05
  it
• 23:05
  is
• 23:06
  a
• 23:06
  mystery
• 23:07
  of
• 23:07
  thing,
• 23:07
  of
• 23:08
  truth
• 23:09
  that
• 23:09
  if
• 23:09
  we
• 23:09
  follow
• 23:10
  truth,
• 23:10
  remember
• 23:11
  we
• 23:11
  talk
• 23:11
  about
• 23:11
  truth,
• 23:12
  we
• 23:12
  arrive
• 23:13
  at
• 23:13
  what
• 23:13
  I
• 23:14
  call
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  absolute
• 23:14
  truth,
• 23:16
  which
• 23:16
  is
• 23:16
  a
• 23:16
  truth
• 23:17
  that
• 23:17
  cannot
• 23:18
  be
• 23:18
  encompassed
• 23:19
  by
• 23:19
  any
• 23:20
  concept.
• 23:22
  That
• 23:22
  is
• 23:22
  a
• 23:23
  mystery
• 23:24
  that
• 23:24
  liberates.
• 23:26
  And
• 23:27
  not
• 23:27
  only
• 23:27
  liberates,
• 23:28
  it
• 23:28
  makes
• 23:28
  everything
• 23:29
  happen.
• 23:30
  Why
• 23:31
  does
• 23:31
  it
• 23:31
  liberate,
• 23:31
  Hamid?
• 23:34
  Because
• 23:35
  it's.
• 23:37
  If
• 23:37
  we
• 23:38
  experience
• 23:38
  it,
• 23:39
  it's
• 23:39
  really
• 23:40
  our
• 23:40
  identity
• 23:41
  has
• 23:41
  shifted
• 23:41
  to
• 23:42
  some
• 23:42
  place
• 23:42
  that
• 23:43
  is
• 23:43
  inherently
• 23:44
  free.
• 23:47
  And
• 23:48
  its
• 23:49
  impact
• 23:50
  on
• 23:50
  the
• 23:50
  minor
• 23:50
  personality
• 23:51
  is
• 23:52
  that
• 23:52
  it
• 23:52
  dissolves
• 23:53
  it
• 23:54
  and
• 23:55
  dissolved
• 23:55
  it.
• 23:55
  It's
• 23:56
  like
• 23:56
  everything
• 23:57
  sort
• 23:57
  of
• 23:58
  the
• 23:58
  Absolute
• 23:59
  is
• 23:59
  what
• 23:59
  I
• 24:00
  call
• 24:00
  it,
• 24:00
  the
• 24:01
  universal
• 24:02
  solvent.
• 24:04
  Everything
• 24:05
  dissolves
• 24:05
  in
• 24:06
  it.
• 24:06
  It
• 24:06
  comes,
• 24:06
  it
• 24:07
  dissolves,
• 24:07
  it
• 24:07
  become
• 24:08
  the
• 24:08
  nature
• 24:09
  of
• 24:09
  the
• 24:09
  absolute.
• 24:09
  Nothing
• 24:10
  remains
• 24:12
  for
• 24:12
  what
• 24:12
  it
• 24:12
  is,
• 24:12
  because
• 24:13
  it
• 24:13
  is.
• 24:14
  Everything
• 24:14
  comes
• 24:15
  from
• 24:15
  it.
• 24:15
  Everything
• 24:16
  returns
• 24:16
  to
• 24:16
  it,
• 24:17
  but
• 24:17
  returning
• 24:18
  to
• 24:18
  it
• 24:18
  means
• 24:18
  dissolving,
• 24:19
  becoming
• 24:19
  it.
• 24:21
  It's
• 24:22
  like
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  absolute
• 24:23
  formulates
• 24:24
  its
• 24:25
  expression
• 24:25
  into
• 24:26
  our
• 24:27
  experience
• 24:28
  and
• 24:28
  takes
• 24:29
  it
• 24:29
  back
• 24:29
  instantly
• 24:30
  into
• 24:31
  nothingness.
• 24:32
  It's
• 24:32
  almost
• 24:33
  as
• 24:33
  though
• 24:34
  the
• 24:34
  absolute.
• 24:36
  This
• 24:36
  phrase
• 24:37
  doesn't
• 24:38
  sound
• 24:38
  quite
• 24:38
  right,
• 24:38
  but
• 24:39
  I
• 24:39
  use
• 24:39
  it
• 24:39
  the
• 24:40
  absolute.
• 24:40
  APPLAUSE
• 24:41
  Fixation
• 24:42
  of
• 24:42
  any
• 24:42
  kind.
• 24:43
  Yeah,
• 24:44
  of
• 24:44
  course,
• 24:44
  any
• 24:45
  fixation
• 24:46
  will
• 24:46
  be
• 24:47
  an
• 24:47
  impediment
• 24:48
  to
• 24:48
  experiencing
• 24:48
  the
• 24:49
  Absolute.
• 24:50
  Yeah,
• 24:52
  yeah.
• 24:52
  Has
• 24:52
  no.
• 24:53
  I
• 24:53
  mean,
• 24:53
  if
• 24:54
  you
• 24:54
  really
• 24:55
  have
• 24:55
  realized
• 24:56
  the
• 24:56
  Absolute,
• 24:57
  one
• 24:57
  thing,
• 24:57
  you
• 24:58
  know,
• 24:59
  if
• 24:59
  I,
• 24:59
  if
• 24:59
  I
• 24:59
  am
• 25:00
  completely
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  Absolute,
• 25:01
  I
• 25:02
  don't
• 25:02
  even
• 25:02
  care
• 25:02
  about
• 25:03
  being
• 25:03
  the
• 25:03
  absolute.
• 25:04
  I
• 25:04
  don't
• 25:04
  even
• 25:04
  call.
• 25:05
  Call
• 25:05
  myself
• 25:05
  the
• 25:06
  absolute,
• 25:07
  you
• 25:08
  know,
• 25:08
  I'm
• 25:09
  simply
• 25:11
  the
• 25:12
  what
• 25:12
  gives
• 25:13
  everything
• 25:13
  its
• 25:14
  awareness
• 25:14
  and
• 25:14
  luminosity.
• 25:16
  But
• 25:17
  there's
• 25:17
  no
• 25:17
  self
• 25:18
  reference.
• 25:18
  No,
• 25:19
  no,
• 25:19
  no
• 25:19
  thinking
• 25:20
  of
• 25:20
  self
• 25:21
  or
• 25:21
  no
• 25:21
  self
• 25:22
  at
• 25:22
  that
• 25:22
  time.
• 25:23
  You
• 25:23
  said
• 25:24
  at
• 25:24
  one
• 25:24
  point
• 25:24
  that
• 25:25
  the
• 25:25
  absolute
• 25:26
  is
• 25:26
  not
• 25:26
  the
• 25:27
  light,
• 25:27
  but
• 25:27
  it
• 25:28
  is
• 25:28
  the
• 25:28
  source
• 25:28
  of
• 25:29
  light.
• 25:30
  Yes,
• 25:32
  that's
• 25:32
  why
• 25:32
  it's
• 25:33
  darkness.
• 25:35
  It
• 25:35
  is
• 25:35
  not
• 25:36
  darkness
• 25:36
  in
• 25:36
  the
• 25:36
  sense
• 25:37
  of
• 25:37
  absence
• 25:37
  of
• 25:37
  light.
• 25:38
  It's
• 25:38
  a
• 25:39
  darkness
• 25:39
  before
• 25:39
  light.
• 25:43
  Yeah,
• 25:44
  that's
• 25:44
  helpful.
• 25:45
  That's
• 25:45
  helpful.
• 25:46
  Many
• 25:46
  people,
• 25:47
  when
• 25:48
  they
• 25:48
  talk
• 25:48
  about
• 25:49
  encountering
• 25:50
  the
• 25:50
  spiritual
• 25:50
  nature,
• 25:51
  they
• 25:51
  see
• 25:51
  light,
• 25:52
  white
• 25:53
  light,
• 25:53
  most
• 25:53
  people,
• 25:55
  but
• 25:55
  that
• 25:55
  is
• 25:55
  just
• 25:55
  the
• 25:56
  outer
• 25:56
  luminosity,
• 25:57
  the
• 25:57
  absolute.
• 25:59
  They
• 25:59
  don't
• 25:59
  go
• 25:59
  deeper
• 26:00
  because
• 26:00
  it's
• 26:00
  scary
• 26:01
  to
• 26:01
  go
• 26:01
  deeper.
• 26:02
  Black,
• 26:03
  dark,
• 26:03
  I
• 26:03
  mean,
• 26:03
  everything
• 26:04
  is
• 26:04
  going
• 26:04
  to
• 26:04
  be
• 26:04
  gone.
• 26:05
  And
• 26:05
  light
• 26:05
  means,
• 26:06
  you
• 26:06
  know,
• 26:07
  still
• 26:08
  there's
• 26:08
  the
• 26:08
  existence,
• 26:09
  there's
• 26:10
  perception,
• 26:10
  there's
• 26:11
  awareness,
• 26:12
  and
• 26:12
  to
• 26:12
  go
• 26:13
  beyond
• 26:13
  it,
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  source
• 26:15
  of
• 26:15
  that
• 26:15
  light
• 26:15
  is
• 26:16
  that
• 26:16
  everything
• 26:16
  can
• 26:17
  be
• 26:17
  gone.
• 26:18
  You
• 26:18
  know,
• 26:18
  but
• 26:19
  the
• 26:20
  interesting
• 26:20
  thing
• 26:21
  about
• 26:21
  that
• 26:22
  blackness,
• 26:23
  luminous
• 26:24
  blackness,
• 26:25
  is
• 26:25
  that
• 26:26
  it
• 26:26
  is
• 26:27
  not
• 26:27
  only
• 26:27
  black,
• 26:28
  it's
• 26:29
  radiant
• 26:30
  black,
• 26:30
  it's
• 26:31
  so
• 26:31
  black,
• 26:32
  it
• 26:33
  illuminates.
• 26:34
  And
• 26:34
  that
• 26:34
  its
• 26:35
  luminosity
• 26:36
  is
• 26:36
  what
• 26:36
  we
• 26:36
  call
• 26:36
  awareness.
• 26:38
  And
• 26:38
  the
• 26:38
  blackness
• 26:39
  is
• 26:39
  so
• 26:39
  pure.
• 26:41
  And
• 26:41
  because
• 26:42
  it
• 26:42
  is
• 26:42
  not
• 26:43
  darkness
• 26:44
  in
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  usual
• 26:45
  sense
• 26:45
  of
• 26:45
  darkness
• 26:45
  or
• 26:46
  absence
• 26:46
  of
• 26:46
  light,
• 26:47
  it's
• 26:47
  more
• 26:48
  like
• 26:50
  it's
• 26:50
  the
• 26:50
  non
• 26:51
  beingness,
• 26:52
  where
• 26:54
  the
• 26:54
  feeling
• 26:54
  in
• 26:54
  it
• 26:55
  is
• 26:57
  lightness
• 26:58
  is
• 26:58
  so
• 26:59
  empty
• 27:00
  that
• 27:00
  makes
• 27:02
  the
• 27:02
  heart
• 27:02
  feel
• 27:03
  complete
• 27:03
  intimacy.
• 27:04
  Sense
• 27:05
  of
• 27:05
  intimacy.
• 27:06
  And
• 27:06
  also
• 27:06
  the
• 27:06
  other
• 27:07
  thing
• 27:07
  arriving
• 27:08
  at
• 27:08
  the
• 27:08
  absolute
• 27:09
  is
• 27:10
  the
• 27:10
  feeling,
• 27:11
  this
• 27:11
  is
• 27:11
  home.
• 27:14
  This
• 27:14
  is
• 27:14
  home.
• 27:15
  The
• 27:15
  soul
• 27:15
  feels
• 27:16
  it.
• 27:16
  Rafael.
• 27:17
  Oh,
• 27:18
  I'm
• 27:19
  home.
• 27:20
  I
• 27:20
  can
• 27:20
  just
• 27:20
  rest.
• 27:21
  I
• 27:21
  don't
• 27:22
  have
• 27:22
  to
• 27:22
  do
• 27:22
  anything.
• 27:24
  I've
• 27:25
  done
• 27:25
  my
• 27:25
  job.
• 27:25
  I
• 27:26
  got
• 27:26
  home
• 27:27
  and
• 27:27
  found
• 27:27
  my
• 27:28
  home.
• 27:29
  So
• 27:29
  it
• 27:30
  feels
• 27:30
  actually,
• 27:31
  I
• 27:31
  mean,
• 27:31
  the
• 27:31
  feeling
• 27:32
  of
• 27:32
  home
• 27:32
  is
• 27:33
  very
• 27:33
  palpable
• 27:34
  and
• 27:34
  the
• 27:35
  feeling
• 27:35
  of
• 27:35
  intimacy
• 27:36
  is
• 27:36
  very
• 27:36
  palpable.
• 27:38
  And
• 27:38
  the
• 27:38
  feeling.
• 27:38
  Yeah,
• 27:39
  that
• 27:39
  doesn't
• 27:39
  sound
• 27:39
  like
• 27:39
  a
• 27:40
  dark,
• 27:40
  scary
• 27:40
  thing.
• 27:41
  That
• 27:41
  sounds
• 27:41
  like
• 27:41
  a.
• 27:42
  Yeah,
• 27:43
  ultimately
• 27:44
  amazing
• 27:44
  thing,
• 27:44
  Beautiful
• 27:45
  thing.
• 27:45
  Yeah,
• 27:45
  it's
• 27:45
  not
• 27:46
  that
• 27:46
  a
• 27:46
  scary
• 27:46
  Thing
• 27:47
  at
• 27:47
  the
• 27:47
  beginning,
• 27:48
  before
• 27:49
  person
• 27:49
  feels
• 27:50
  it,
• 27:50
  it
• 27:50
  feels
• 27:50
  like
• 27:51
  it
• 27:51
  might
• 27:51
  be
• 27:51
  scary
• 27:52
  because.
• 27:52
  Scary
• 27:53
  because
• 27:53
  it
• 27:53
  will
• 27:53
  dissolve
• 27:54
  the
• 27:55
  self.
• 27:55
  That's
• 27:55
  what's
• 27:56
  scary
• 27:56
  about
• 27:56
  it.
• 27:57
  And
• 27:57
  dissolve
• 27:58
  any
• 27:58
  individual
• 27:59
  identification.
• 28:01
  It
• 28:01
  is,
• 28:02
  as
• 28:02
  I
• 28:02
  call
• 28:02
  it,
• 28:03
  universal
• 28:04
  solvent.
• 28:06
  It
• 28:06
  dissolves
• 28:07
  everything
• 28:07
  that
• 28:07
  it
• 28:07
  touches.
• 28:09
  And
• 28:10
  but
• 28:10
  being
• 28:11
  it,
• 28:11
  you're,
• 28:12
  you
• 28:12
  know,
• 28:13
  you're
• 28:13
  this,
• 28:16
  this
• 28:16
  mystery
• 28:16
  that
• 28:17
  is
• 28:17
  complete
• 28:18
  freedom,
• 28:18
  complete
• 28:19
  depth.
• 28:20
  It's
• 28:20
  the
• 28:20
  depth
• 28:21
  of
• 28:21
  all,
• 28:21
  all
• 28:22
  real
• 28:22
  and
• 28:22
  sense
• 28:23
  of
• 28:23
  depth
• 28:23
  is
• 28:23
  amazing.
• 28:24
  It's
• 28:24
  like
• 28:24
  infinite
• 28:25
  depth.
• 28:26
  And
• 28:27
  same
• 28:27
  time
• 28:27
  it's
• 28:28
  a
• 28:28
  total
• 28:28
  intimacy
• 28:29
  and
• 28:30
  being
• 28:30
  at
• 28:30
  home
• 28:31
  and.
• 28:32
  And
• 28:32
  the
• 28:32
  sense
• 28:32
  of
• 28:34
  like
• 28:35
  we've
• 28:35
  been
• 28:36
  carrying
• 28:36
  a
• 28:36
  weight
• 28:37
  and
• 28:38
  traveling
• 28:39
  now
• 28:39
  we
• 28:39
  could
• 28:40
  drop
• 28:40
  the
• 28:40
  weight
• 28:41
  and
• 28:41
  just
• 28:41
  rest.
• 28:45
  And
• 28:45
  Hamid,
• 28:46
  does.
• 28:48
  In
• 28:48
  this
• 28:48
  absolute,
• 28:49
  does
• 28:50
  awareness
• 28:50
  remain
• 28:51
  the
• 28:52
  witness?
• 28:54
  Well,
• 28:55
  it
• 28:55
  depends.
• 28:56
  I
• 28:56
  mean
• 28:57
  that's
• 28:57
  something
• 28:57
  in
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  cigar.
• 28:58
  The
• 28:58
  other
• 28:58
  Maharaj
• 28:59
  try
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  explain
• 29:00
  to
• 29:00
  people.
• 29:01
  Most
• 29:01
  people
• 29:01
  didn't
• 29:02
  get
• 29:02
  it.
• 29:02
  If
• 29:03
  you
• 29:03
  look
• 29:03
  outside,
• 29:05
  you
• 29:05
  see
• 29:06
  there's
• 29:07
  awareness
• 29:07
  of
• 29:08
  the
• 29:08
  world.
• 29:09
  If
• 29:09
  you
• 29:09
  look
• 29:09
  inside,
• 29:10
  you
• 29:10
  don't
• 29:10
  see
• 29:11
  anything.
• 29:11
  You'll
• 29:12
  be
• 29:12
  gone.
• 29:12
  So
• 29:13
  if
• 29:13
  you
• 29:13
  look
• 29:13
  into
• 29:13
  the
• 29:14
  absolute,
• 29:15
  there
• 29:15
  is
• 29:15
  no
• 29:15
  awareness
• 29:16
  of
• 29:16
  anything
• 29:18
  because
• 29:18
  it
• 29:18
  dissolves
• 29:19
  whatever
• 29:19
  is
• 29:19
  aware.
• 29:20
  If
• 29:21
  you
• 29:21
  look
• 29:21
  from
• 29:22
  within
• 29:23
  it,
• 29:24
  to
• 29:25
  the
• 29:25
  outside
• 29:25
  of
• 29:26
  it,
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  its
• 29:26
  own
• 29:27
  manifestation.
• 29:28
  You
• 29:28
  see?
• 29:28
  Manifestation,
• 29:29
  you
• 29:29
  see.
• 29:30
  Well,
• 29:30
  that's
• 29:30
  thoughts,
• 29:31
  feeling,
• 29:31
  all
• 29:31
  of
• 29:32
  the
• 29:32
  world.
• 29:33
  And
• 29:33
  Amit,
• 29:33
  it
• 29:34
  feels
• 29:34
  like
• 29:34
  this
• 29:35
  gets
• 29:35
  very
• 29:35
  tricky
• 29:36
  in
• 29:36
  the
• 29:36
  descriptions
• 29:37
  of
• 29:37
  it
• 29:37
  because
• 29:37
  it's
• 29:38
  sometimes
• 29:38
  described
• 29:39
  as
• 29:39
  a
• 29:39
  profound
• 29:40
  not
• 29:40
  knowing
• 29:41
  or
• 29:41
  ignorance.
• 29:42
  Yet
• 29:43
  it
• 29:44
  seems
• 29:44
  like
• 29:45
  there
• 29:46
  is
• 29:46
  still
• 29:47
  some
• 29:48
  subtle
• 29:48
  awareness,
• 29:50
  but
• 29:50
  no
• 29:50
  phenomena
• 29:52
  or
• 29:52
  no
• 29:52
  objects
• 29:53
  of
• 29:53
  any
• 29:53
  kind.
• 29:54
  Does
• 29:56
  that
• 29:56
  resonate?
• 29:58
  Well,
• 29:58
  it
• 29:59
  is
• 29:59
  not
• 29:59
  one
• 30:00
  answer.
• 30:00
  Two
• 30:01
  possibilities.
• 30:03
  You
• 30:03
  can
• 30:03
  be
• 30:04
  aware
• 30:04
  of
• 30:05
  the
• 30:05
  absolute
• 30:05
  mostly
• 30:07
  and
• 30:07
  then
• 30:07
  not
• 30:08
  knowing
• 30:08
  what
• 30:09
  it
• 30:09
  is.
• 30:09
  However,
• 30:11
  for
• 30:11
  there
• 30:11
  to
• 30:11
  be
• 30:12
  any
• 30:12
  awareness,
• 30:13
  there
• 30:13
  has
• 30:13
  to
• 30:13
  be
• 30:14
  something
• 30:14
  manifest,
• 30:16
  even
• 30:16
  with
• 30:16
  just
• 30:17
  a
• 30:17
  little
• 30:17
  thought
• 30:18
  or
• 30:18
  a
• 30:18
  sensation.
• 30:20
  When
• 30:20
  that
• 30:20
  thought
• 30:20
  sensation
• 30:21
  is
• 30:21
  gone,
• 30:22
  there
• 30:22
  is
• 30:22
  no
• 30:22
  awareness.
• 30:23
  No,
• 30:24
  that's
• 30:24
  what's
• 30:24
  called
• 30:25
  cessation
• 30:25
  or
• 30:25
  fanatic.
• 30:27
  This
• 30:27
  is
• 30:28
  the
• 30:28
  annihilation
• 30:29
  of
• 30:29
  everything,
• 30:30
  of
• 30:30
  consciousness
• 30:30
  itself.
• 30:32
  So
• 30:32
  there's
• 30:33
  no
• 30:33
  awareness
• 30:34
  of
• 30:34
  the
• 30:34
  absolute
• 30:35
  because
• 30:37
  I
• 30:37
  guess
• 30:37
  awareness
• 30:38
  is
• 30:38
  a
• 30:39
  thing
• 30:39
  maybe,
• 30:39
  or
• 30:39
  a
• 30:40
  man.
• 30:40
  And
• 30:40
  also
• 30:40
  there's
• 30:41
  nothing
• 30:41
  to
• 30:41
  be
• 30:41
  aware
• 30:42
  of.
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  mean,
• 30:44
  I'm
• 30:45
  still
• 30:45
  unclear
• 30:45
  here
• 30:46
  because
• 30:47
  you.
• 30:48
  And
• 30:48
  this
• 30:48
  has
• 30:48
  been
• 30:48
  a
• 30:49
  long
• 30:49
  time
• 30:49
  confusion
• 30:50
  because
• 30:51
  it
• 30:51
  sounds
• 30:52
  that
• 30:52
  you,
• 30:52
  you
• 30:52
  mentioned
• 30:53
  for
• 30:53
  example
• 30:53
  cessation,
• 30:54
  which
• 30:54
  is
• 30:54
  the
• 30:55
  Buddhist
• 30:55
  term
• 30:57
  experience
• 30:58
  or
• 30:58
  fana,
• 30:59
  the
• 30:59
  Sufi
• 31:01
  experience,
• 31:02
  but
• 31:03
  cessation.
• 31:04
  In
• 31:04
  cessation
• 31:05
  there's
• 31:06
  a
• 31:06
  recognition
• 31:07
  of
• 31:07
  something,
• 31:08
  but
• 31:08
  it's
• 31:09
  usually
• 31:09
  incomprehensible,
• 31:10
  certainly
• 31:11
  trans
• 31:11
  conceptual,
• 31:12
  but
• 31:13
  there's
• 31:13
  also
• 31:13
  nerode,
• 31:15
  which
• 31:16
  is
• 31:17
  in
• 31:17
  which
• 31:18
  there's
• 31:18
  not
• 31:18
  even
• 31:19
  awareness
• 31:19
  that
• 31:19
  something
• 31:20
  has
• 31:20
  happened.
• 31:20
  There's
• 31:20
  just
• 31:21
  a
• 31:21
  moment
• 31:21
  of
• 31:21
  going
• 31:21
  into
• 31:22
  it.
• 31:22
  And
• 31:23
  a
• 31:23
  moment
• 31:23
  of
• 31:23
  coming
• 31:23
  out
• 31:24
  of
• 31:24
  it.
• 31:24
  So.
• 31:25
  Yeah,
• 31:25
  but
• 31:26
  in
• 31:26
  between
• 31:26
  those
• 31:27
  there's
• 31:27
  no
• 31:28
  nothing,
• 31:28
  no
• 31:28
  content,
• 31:29
  yeah?
• 31:30
  Yes.
• 31:31
  Yeah.
• 31:32
  Sensation.
• 31:32
  Yeah.
• 31:33
  The
• 31:33
  moment
• 31:33
  going
• 31:33
  into
• 31:34
  it.
• 31:34
  You.
• 31:35
  Sometime
• 31:35
  there
• 31:36
  is
• 31:36
  a
• 31:36
  feeling
• 31:36
  I
• 31:37
  am
• 31:37
  disappearing
• 31:38
  and
• 31:38
  sort
• 31:39
  of
• 31:39
  dissolving
• 31:40
  until
• 31:40
  it's
• 31:41
  completely
• 31:41
  dissolved
• 31:42
  and
• 31:43
  there's
• 31:43
  moment
• 31:44
  coming
• 31:44
  out
• 31:44
  of
• 31:45
  it.
• 31:45
  Everything
• 31:45
  appears
• 31:46
  again
• 31:47
  new,
• 31:47
  as
• 31:48
  if
• 31:48
  completely
• 31:49
  born.
• 31:50
  And
• 31:50
  you.
• 31:51
  And
• 31:52
  if
• 31:52
  my
• 31:53
  understanding
• 31:53
  is
• 31:53
  correct,
• 31:54
  in
• 31:54
  cessation
• 31:56
  between
• 31:56
  the
• 31:57
  dissolution
• 31:58
  of
• 31:58
  all
• 31:59
  phenomena
• 31:59
  and
• 31:59
  the
• 32:00
  new
• 32:00
  manifestation
• 32:01
  or
• 32:01
  arising
• 32:02
  of
• 32:02
  phenomena
• 32:03
  anew,
• 32:04
  there
• 32:04
  is
• 32:04
  still
• 32:05
  an
• 32:05
  awareness
• 32:05
  within
• 32:06
  that,
• 32:06
  but
• 32:06
  within
• 32:06
  the
• 32:07
  road,
• 32:07
  no
• 32:08
  awareness
• 32:08
  whatsoever.
• 32:09
  Is
• 32:09
  that
• 32:11
  right?
• 32:11
  Yeah.
• 32:11
  I
• 32:12
  mean
• 32:12
  that
• 32:12
  is
• 32:13
  some
• 32:13
  teaching.
• 32:14
  Don't
• 32:14
  understand
• 32:14
  that.
• 32:15
  Don't
• 32:15
  mention.
• 32:16
  I
• 32:16
  remember
• 32:17
  talking
• 32:17
  non
• 32:18
  dual
• 32:18
  teacher.
• 32:19
  When
• 32:19
  I
• 32:19
  said
• 32:20
  cessation,
• 32:21
  he
• 32:21
  didn't
• 32:21
  get.
• 32:21
  He
• 32:22
  said
• 32:22
  no
• 32:22
  consciousness
• 32:23
  is
• 32:23
  always
• 32:23
  conscious.
• 32:24
  He
• 32:24
  can't
• 32:25
  be
• 32:25
  no
• 32:25
  consciousness.
• 32:28
  That
• 32:28
  is
• 32:28
  true
• 32:29
  if
• 32:29
  your
• 32:30
  station
• 32:30
  is
• 32:30
  consciousness.
• 32:31
  However,
• 32:31
  the
• 32:32
  absolute
• 32:32
  is
• 32:32
  deeper
• 32:33
  than
• 32:33
  consciousness
• 32:34
  is
• 32:35
  the
• 32:35
  ground
• 32:35
  of
• 32:35
  consciousness.
• 32:36
  Consciousness
• 32:37
  is
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  luminosity,
• 32:38
  the
• 32:38
  absolute,
• 32:40
  you
• 32:40
  know.
• 32:40
  And
• 32:40
  you're
• 32:41
  drawing
• 32:41
  a
• 32:41
  distinction
• 32:41
  between
• 32:42
  consciousness
• 32:42
  and
• 32:43
  awareness
• 32:43
  here.
• 32:45
  Good
• 32:45
  question.
• 32:47
  I
• 32:47
  do.
• 32:47
  You
• 32:48
  do
• 32:48
  my
• 32:48
  teaching.
• 32:50
  I
• 32:50
  draw
• 32:50
  awareness
• 32:51
  between
• 32:51
  consciousness
• 32:52
  and
• 32:52
  awareness.
• 32:53
  And
• 32:54
  the
• 32:54
  reason
• 32:55
  is
• 32:57
  what
• 32:57
  made
• 32:57
  me
• 32:58
  see
• 32:59
  that
• 32:59
  distinction
• 33:00
  is
• 33:00
  seeing
• 33:01
  how
• 33:02
  the
• 33:03
  Advaita
• 33:03
  Vedanta
• 33:04
  talks
• 33:04
  about
• 33:05
  consciousness
• 33:06
  and
• 33:06
  the
• 33:06
  Buddhas
• 33:07
  talk
• 33:07
  about
• 33:07
  awareness.
• 33:09
  And
• 33:10
  you
• 33:10
  see
• 33:10
  their
• 33:11
  description
• 33:13
  consciousness
• 33:14
  for
• 33:14
  the
• 33:14
  Advaita
• 33:15
  Vedanta
• 33:17
  is
• 33:17
  Satchitranda.
• 33:18
  It
• 33:19
  is
• 33:20
  Sat
• 33:21
  Chit.
• 33:22
  It's
• 33:22
  conscious
• 33:22
  of
• 33:23
  bliss.
• 33:23
  So
• 33:23
  it's
• 33:23
  characterized
• 33:24
  by
• 33:24
  bliss
• 33:25
  and
• 33:26
  also
• 33:27
  beingness,
• 33:28
  existence.
• 33:30
  While
• 33:30
  awareness
• 33:30
  for
• 33:31
  the
• 33:31
  Buddhist
• 33:31
  is
• 33:32
  characterized
• 33:32
  by
• 33:33
  none
• 33:33
  being.
• 33:35
  Okay.
• 33:35
  I
• 33:35
  am
• 33:36
  Tenness,
• 33:37
  you
• 33:37
  see.
• 33:38
  So
• 33:38
  for
• 33:39
  me.
• 33:41
  So
• 33:41
  that's
• 33:41
  why
• 33:42
  I
• 33:42
  think.
• 33:42
  I
• 33:43
  think
• 33:43
  aware.
• 33:44
  Consciousness
• 33:45
  has
• 33:46
  the
• 33:46
  sense
• 33:46
  of
• 33:46
  beingness
• 33:47
  and
• 33:48
  awareness
• 33:49
  doesn't
• 33:49
  have
• 33:50
  a
• 33:50
  sense
• 33:50
  of
• 33:50
  beingness.
• 33:52
  Awareness
• 33:53
  is
• 33:53
  empty,
• 33:55
  rageous,
• 33:56
  empty
• 33:56
  perceptuality.
• 33:57
  It
• 33:58
  has
• 33:58
  no
• 33:58
  sense
• 33:58
  of
• 33:59
  being
• 33:59
  or
• 34:01
  even.
• 34:01
  Which
• 34:02
  means
• 34:02
  no
• 34:02
  sense
• 34:03
  of
• 34:03
  presence
• 34:03
  or
• 34:03
  existence.
• 34:04
  It's
• 34:04
  just.
• 34:05
  It's
• 34:05
  a
• 34:06
  non
• 34:06
  being
• 34:07
  that
• 34:08
  is
• 34:10
  at
• 34:10
  the
• 34:10
  same
• 34:10
  time
• 34:11
  is
• 34:11
  awareness
• 34:12
  of
• 34:12
  whatever
• 34:14
  while
• 34:14
  consciousness
• 34:15
  is
• 34:15
  conscious
• 34:16
  of
• 34:16
  its
• 34:17
  beingness
• 34:17
  at
• 34:17
  the
• 34:18
  same
• 34:18
  time.
• 34:19
  When
• 34:19
  awareness
• 34:20
  is
• 34:20
  conscious
• 34:20
  of
• 34:21
  beingness,
• 34:21
  there's
• 34:21
  nothing
• 34:22
  there
• 34:22
  to
• 34:22
  be
• 34:23
  its
• 34:23
  beingness.
• 34:24
  And
• 34:25
  you
• 34:25
  describe
• 34:26
  also
• 34:27
  with
• 34:27
  awareness.
• 34:28
  And
• 34:28
  he.
• 34:28
  You
• 34:29
  acknowledge
• 34:29
  your.
• 34:30
  It's
• 34:30
  coming
• 34:31
  out
• 34:31
  of
• 34:31
  your
• 34:31
  own
• 34:31
  experience.
• 34:31
  But
• 34:32
  also
• 34:32
  very
• 34:32
  congruent
• 34:33
  with
• 34:33
  the
• 34:34
  Tibetan
• 34:34
  Buddhist.
• 34:35
  So
• 34:36
  Jing,
• 34:37
  the
• 34:37
  inseparability
• 34:38
  of
• 34:38
  awareness
• 34:39
  from
• 34:40
  emptiness
• 34:41
  and
• 34:42
  from
• 34:43
  luminosity.
• 34:45
  Yeah,
• 34:46
  well,
• 34:47
  I
• 34:47
  mean
• 34:47
  awareness
• 34:48
  is
• 34:48
  just
• 34:49
  luminosity
• 34:50
  and
• 34:50
  emptiness
• 34:52
  inseparable.
• 34:53
  Yeah,
• 34:53
  you
• 34:53
  mentioned
• 34:54
  that
• 34:54
  you
• 34:54
  talk
• 34:54
  about
• 34:54
  the
• 34:55
  universal
• 34:55
  witness
• 34:56
  where
• 34:57
  you're
• 34:57
  just
• 34:58
  everything
• 35:00
  exists
• 35:00
  within
• 35:01
  you
• 35:01
  and
• 35:01
  you
• 35:02
  just
• 35:02
  witness
• 35:02
  it.
• 35:04
  Yeah.
• 35:04
  That's
• 35:05
  one
• 35:05
  way
• 35:05
  of
• 35:05
  experiencing
• 35:06
  the
• 35:06
  absolute
• 35:07
  witnessing
• 35:08
  Ground.
• 35:09
  So
• 35:10
  we're
• 35:10
  jumping
• 35:10
  around
• 35:11
  a
• 35:11
  little
• 35:11
  bit
• 35:12
  in
• 35:12
  terms
• 35:12
  of
• 35:12
  focus.
• 35:14
  Let's
• 35:14
  see
• 35:14
  which
• 35:14
  one
• 35:14
  we
• 35:15
  want
• 35:15
  to
• 35:15
  focus
• 35:15
  on.
• 35:16
  Okay.
• 35:17
  Where
• 35:18
  would
• 35:18
  you
• 35:18
  like
• 35:18
  to
• 35:18
  go?
• 35:19
  That
• 35:19
  would
• 35:19
  take
• 35:19
  us
• 35:20
  into
• 35:20
  some.
• 35:21
  Anywhere
• 35:22
  will
• 35:22
  take
• 35:22
  us
• 35:22
  into
• 35:23
  interesting
• 35:23
  topics.
• 35:24
  But
• 35:24
  is,
• 35:24
  is
• 35:24
  there
• 35:25
  somewhere
• 35:25
  you'd
• 35:25
  like
• 35:25
  to
• 35:25
  go?
• 35:26
  We
• 35:26
  don't
• 35:26
  want
• 35:26
  to
• 35:26
  confuse
• 35:27
  the
• 35:27
  listeners
• 35:28
  though.
• 35:29
  Oh,
• 35:29
  I
• 35:29
  think
• 35:29
  we're
• 35:29
  going
• 35:30
  to
• 35:30
  blow
• 35:30
  their
• 35:30
  minds.
• 35:30
  I
• 35:31
  think
• 35:31
  this
• 35:31
  is.
• 35:33
  Moving
• 35:34
  from
• 35:34
  one
• 35:34
  thing
• 35:34
  to
• 35:34
  another.
• 35:35
  I
• 35:35
  mean,
• 35:35
  to
• 35:36
  talk
• 35:36
  about
• 35:36
  a
• 35:36
  monastony
• 35:37
  and
• 35:37
  then
• 35:37
  talk
• 35:38
  about
• 35:38
  the
• 35:39
  universal
• 35:39
  wisdomness.
• 35:40
  I
• 35:41
  mean
• 35:41
  they're
• 35:41
  related,
• 35:41
  but
• 35:42
  they're
• 35:42
  not
• 35:42
  the
• 35:42
  same
• 35:43
  thing.
• 35:43
  And
• 35:43
  they're
• 35:43
  very
• 35:44
  big
• 35:44
  difference
• 35:45
  in
• 35:45
  table
• 35:45
  experience.
• 35:47
  Yeah,
• 35:48
  yeah.
• 35:48
  Well,
• 35:49
  I'm
• 35:50
  very
• 35:50
  curious
• 35:51
  about
• 35:51
  the.
• 35:52
  Intrigued
• 35:53
  by
• 35:53
  your
• 35:54
  description
• 35:55
  of
• 35:55
  awareness
• 35:56
  emptiness.
• 35:56
  Because
• 35:59
  emptiness
• 36:00
  is
• 36:00
  so
• 36:00
  central
• 36:01
  to
• 36:01
  the
• 36:01
  Buddhist
• 36:02
  tradition.
• 36:02
  I've
• 36:02
  been
• 36:02
  trying
• 36:03
  to
• 36:03
  make
• 36:03
  sense
• 36:03
  of
• 36:03
  it
• 36:03
  for
• 36:04
  a
• 36:04
  long
• 36:04
  time.
• 36:04
  And
• 36:05
  I
• 36:05
  have
• 36:05
  to
• 36:05
  say
• 36:05
  your
• 36:05
  discussion
• 36:06
  illuminated
• 36:07
  it
• 36:07
  in
• 36:07
  a
• 36:08
  new
• 36:08
  way.
• 36:08
  And
• 36:09
  you
• 36:09
  point
• 36:09
  out
• 36:10
  that
• 36:10
  really
• 36:11
  emptiness
• 36:11
  is
• 36:12
  an
• 36:12
  attempt
• 36:12
  to
• 36:13
  point
• 36:13
  to
• 36:14
  the
• 36:14
  deepest,
• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  ultimate
• 36:16
  nature
• 36:16
  of
• 36:16
  existence.
• 36:18
  And
• 36:18
  you
• 36:18
  point
• 36:18
  out
• 36:19
  that
• 36:20
  things,
• 36:20
  phenomena
• 36:22
  just
• 36:22
  don't
• 36:22
  have
• 36:23
  the
• 36:23
  substantiality
• 36:24
  and
• 36:25
  solidity
• 36:26
  that
• 36:26
  we
• 36:26
  usually
• 36:27
  attribute
• 36:27
  to
• 36:27
  them.
• 36:27
  And
• 36:28
  that
• 36:29
  the,
• 36:29
  even
• 36:30
  the
• 36:30
  very
• 36:31
  experience
• 36:32
  of
• 36:32
  something
• 36:33
  solidly
• 36:34
  existing
• 36:34
  is
• 36:35
  a
• 36:36
  superimposition
• 36:37
  of
• 36:37
  the
• 36:37
  mind.
• 36:38
  Yeah.
• 36:38
  So
• 36:39
  if
• 36:39
  you
• 36:39
  go
• 36:40
  to
• 36:40
  Zangchen
• 36:41
  or
• 36:41
  Mahamudra
• 36:42
  or
• 36:42
  any
• 36:42
  of
• 36:43
  those
• 36:43
  higher
• 36:43
  tantras
• 36:44
  of
• 36:44
  the
• 36:44
  Tibetan
• 36:45
  Buddhism,
• 36:46
  awareness
• 36:47
  is
• 36:48
  clarity
• 36:48
  and
• 36:50
  emptiness.
• 36:51
  The
• 36:51
  union
• 36:51
  of
• 36:52
  clarity
• 36:52
  and
• 36:52
  emptiness
• 36:53
  and
• 36:54
  emptiness
• 36:54
  means.
• 36:55
  And
• 36:56
  the
• 36:56
  way
• 36:56
  they
• 36:56
  define
• 36:56
  emptiness
• 36:57
  is
• 36:57
  the
• 36:58
  lack
• 36:58
  of
• 36:58
  inherent
• 36:59
  existence.
• 37:01
  That
• 37:01
  is
• 37:01
  the
• 37:01
  description.
• 37:02
  That's
• 37:02
  actually
• 37:03
  the
• 37:03
  lack
• 37:04
  of
• 37:04
  inherent
• 37:04
  existence.
• 37:05
  Nothing
• 37:06
  has
• 37:06
  inherent
• 37:06
  existence.
• 37:07
  That's
• 37:07
  the
• 37:07
  deepest
• 37:08
  Buddhist
• 37:09
  teaching.
• 37:09
  That's
• 37:09
  what
• 37:10
  Buddha
• 37:10
  brought
• 37:10
  to
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  Indian
• 37:11
  tradition.
• 37:13
  There
• 37:13
  is
• 37:14
  a
• 37:14
  condition
• 37:15
  that's.
• 37:16
  That
• 37:16
  is
• 37:16
  experienced
• 37:17
  as
• 37:17
  a
• 37:17
  lack
• 37:17
  of
• 37:17
  inherent
• 37:18
  existence.
• 37:19
  Nothing
• 37:19
  has
• 37:19
  inherent
• 37:20
  existence,
• 37:20
  has
• 37:20
  a
• 37:21
  parent
• 37:21
  existence
• 37:22
  and
• 37:22
  not
• 37:23
  inherent
• 37:23
  existence.
• 37:25
  To
• 37:25
  experience
• 37:26
  that
• 37:26
  lack
• 37:26
  of
• 37:26
  inherent
• 37:27
  existence
• 37:27
  is
• 37:28
  experiencing
• 37:28
  emptiness,
• 37:29
  recognizing
• 37:29
  emptiness.
• 37:31
  You
• 37:31
  see.
• 37:32
  But
• 37:32
  the
• 37:32
  lack
• 37:32
  of
• 37:33
  healing
• 37:33
  existence
• 37:33
  is
• 37:34
  in
• 37:34
  the
• 37:34
  zoxianta.
• 37:35
  It's
• 37:35
  always
• 37:36
  inseparable
• 37:37
  from
• 37:38
  the
• 37:38
  luminosity
• 37:39
  of
• 37:39
  awareness,
• 37:40
  the
• 37:40
  clarity.
• 37:42
  So
• 37:42
  it
• 37:42
  is
• 37:42
  always
• 37:43
  an
• 37:43
  empty
• 37:43
  clarity
• 37:44
  or
• 37:45
  transparent
• 37:47
  clarity.
• 37:48
  And
• 37:48
  that
• 37:48
  they
• 37:49
  call
• 37:49
  that
• 37:49
  rigba
• 37:51
  or
• 37:51
  pure
• 37:51
  awareness.
• 37:53
  That's
• 37:53
  why
• 37:54
  I
• 37:54
  like
• 37:54
  that
• 37:55
  distinction
• 37:55
  between
• 37:55
  awareness
• 37:56
  and
• 37:56
  consciousness.
• 37:57
  And
• 37:57
  both
• 37:58
  are
• 37:58
  true.
• 37:59
  Consciousness
• 38:00
  has
• 38:00
  a
• 38:00
  sense
• 38:00
  of
• 38:01
  being,
• 38:01
  fullness
• 38:02
  in
• 38:02
  ness.
• 38:03
  But
• 38:03
  awareness
• 38:04
  is
• 38:05
  completely
• 38:05
  empty,
• 38:06
  completely
• 38:06
  light.
• 38:08
  It
• 38:09
  has
• 38:09
  no
• 38:09
  weight
• 38:10
  of
• 38:10
  any
• 38:10
  kind,
• 38:11
  no
• 38:11
  medium,
• 38:12
  you
• 38:12
  know,
• 38:12
  and
• 38:13
  emptiness,
• 38:14
  you
• 38:14
  know,
• 38:15
  lack
• 38:15
  and
• 38:15
  healing
• 38:15
  existence.
• 38:16
  Although
• 38:16
  we
• 38:17
  experience
• 38:17
  it
• 38:17
  as
• 38:17
  a
• 38:18
  vastness,
• 38:18
  vastness
• 38:19
  of
• 38:19
  awareness,
• 38:19
  awareness,
• 38:20
  awareness
• 38:20
  become
• 38:21
  vast.
• 38:22
  In
• 38:22
  both
• 38:22
  cases
• 38:23
  it's
• 38:23
  vastness.
• 38:24
  But
• 38:25
  really
• 38:25
  existence,
• 38:27
  I
• 38:27
  mean,
• 38:27
  emptiness
• 38:28
  is
• 38:28
  not
• 38:28
  space,
• 38:30
  not
• 38:30
  empty
• 38:31
  space,
• 38:32
  Lakam
• 38:32
  here
• 38:33
  existence
• 38:33
  not
• 38:34
  space.
• 38:34
  Doesn't
• 38:34
  say
• 38:35
  space
• 38:37
  mean
• 38:38
  everything
• 38:38
  that
• 38:38
  we
• 38:38
  experience
• 38:39
  its
• 38:40
  nature
• 38:40
  is
• 38:41
  non
• 38:41
  being.
• 38:42
  So
• 38:43
  it
• 38:43
  is
• 38:43
  the
• 38:43
  unity
• 38:44
  being
• 38:44
  and
• 38:44
  non
• 38:45
  being.
• 38:46
  So
• 38:46
  what
• 38:46
  manifests
• 38:47
  called
• 38:48
  being
• 38:48
  and
• 38:49
  its
• 38:49
  nature
• 38:50
  non
• 38:50
  being.
• 38:51
  So
• 38:52
  there's
• 38:52
  two
• 38:52
  opposites
• 38:53
  are
• 38:53
  unified
• 38:54
  merit
• 38:54
  here
• 38:55
  and
• 38:55
  this
• 38:55
  experience
• 38:56
  pure
• 38:57
  awareness
• 38:57
  which
• 38:58
  is
• 38:58
  amazing
• 38:59
  sense
• 38:59
  of
• 38:59
  lucidity
• 39:00
  when
• 39:00
  you
• 39:00
  experience
• 39:01
  it.
• 39:02
  Lucidity
• 39:03
  and
• 39:03
  clarity.
• 39:04
  And
• 39:04
  it's
• 39:04
  like
• 39:05
  awareness
• 39:06
  is
• 39:06
  exploding
• 39:07
  with
• 39:07
  clarity.
• 39:08
  And
• 39:08
  because
• 39:09
  the
• 39:09
  emptiness
• 39:10
  magnified
• 39:11
  the
• 39:11
  awareness
• 39:13
  makes
• 39:13
  it
• 39:13
  much
• 39:15
  more
• 39:16
  complete,
• 39:17
  transparent,
• 39:19
  illuminating.
• 39:21
  But
• 39:21
  it
• 39:22
  is
• 39:22
  also
• 39:22
  the
• 39:22
  ground
• 39:23
  of
• 39:23
  everything.
• 39:23
  The
• 39:24
  nature
• 39:24
  of
• 39:24
  it
• 39:24
  is
• 39:25
  not
• 39:25
  just
• 39:25
  our
• 39:26
  regular
• 39:26
  awareness.
• 39:27
  No
• 39:27
  it's
• 39:28
  awareness
• 39:28
  that
• 39:29
  is
• 39:29
  nature.
• 39:29
  Everything
• 39:32
  the
• 39:32
  sea
• 39:32
  of
• 39:33
  awareness.
• 39:35
  Stay
• 39:35
  tuned
• 39:35
  for
• 39:35
  part
• 39:36
  two.
• 39:36
  As
• 39:37
  we
• 39:37
  dive
• 39:37
  deep
• 39:38
  into
• 39:38
  the
• 39:38
  fundamental
• 39:39
  nature
• 39:39
  of
• 39:39
  reality
• 39:40
  and
• 39:40
  and
• 39:41
  our
• 39:41
  nature.
• 39:42
  Thank
• 39:42
  you
• 39:42
  very
• 39:42
  much
• 39:43
  for
• 39:43
  being
• 39:43
  a
• 39:44
  part
• 39:44
  of
• 39:44
  this
• 39:44
  conversation.
• 39:45
  We
• 39:45
  hope
• 39:45
  that
• 39:46
  you
• 39:46
  were
• 39:46
  moved
• 39:46
  as
• 39:47
  we
• 39:47
  are
• 39:47
  moved
• 39:48
  being
• 39:48
  part
• 39:48
  of
• 39:48
  it
• 39:48
  ourselves.
• 39:49
  We'd
• 39:50
  also
• 39:50
  like
• 39:50
  to
• 39:50
  say
• 39:50
  that
• 39:51
  this
• 39:51
  is
• 39:51
  being
• 39:51
  funded
• 39:52
  by
• 39:52
  Roger
• 39:53
  and
• 39:53
  myself.
• 39:53
  It
• 39:53
  comes
• 39:53
  out
• 39:53
  of
• 39:54
  our
• 39:54
  pockets.
• 39:54
  So
• 39:54
  if
• 39:54
  you
• 39:55
  would
• 39:55
  like
• 39:55
  to
• 39:55
  help
• 39:55
  us
• 39:56
  to
• 39:56
  mainly
• 39:57
  to
• 39:57
  get
• 39:57
  this
• 39:57
  podcast
• 39:58
  out
• 39:58
  to
• 39:58
  more
• 39:58
  people
• 39:59
  because
• 39:59
  the
• 39:59
  bigger
• 40:00
  audience
• 40:00
  have
• 40:00
  which
• 40:00
  is
• 40:01
  steadily
• 40:01
  growing.
• 40:01
  But
• 40:01
  the
• 40:02
  more
• 40:02
  people
• 40:02
  we
• 40:02
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• 40:02
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• 40:03
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• 40:03
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• 40:03
  more
• 40:03
  marketing
• 40:04
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• 40:04
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• 40:04
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• 40:05
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• 40:05
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• 40:05
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• 40:05
  we
• 40:06
  can
• 40:06
  can
• 40:06
  have
• 40:06
  on
• 40:06
  the
• 40:06
  world.
• 40:07
  So
• 40:07
  we've
• 40:07
  done
• 40:07
  a
• 40:08
  couple
• 40:08
  of
• 40:08
  ways.
• 40:08
  But
• 40:08
  we'd
• 40:09
  like
• 40:09
  you
• 40:09
  to
• 40:09
  buy
• 40:09
  us
• 40:10
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• 40:10
  cup
• 40:10
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• 40:10
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• 40:10
  Very
• 40:11
  simple.
• 40:11
  And
• 40:11
  I
• 40:11
  do
• 40:12
  that
• 40:12
  with
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  podcasts
• 40:13
  that
• 40:13
  I
• 40:13
  support
• 40:14
  and
• 40:14
  I
• 40:15
  find
• 40:15
  it's
• 40:15
  very
• 40:15
  satisfying.
• 40:16
  So
• 40:16
  thank
• 40:17
  you
• 40:17
  for
• 40:17
  your
• 40:17
  help,
• 40:17
  thank
• 40:18
  you
• 40:18
  for
• 40:18
  your
• 40:18
  presence
• 40:18
  and
• 40:19
  thank
• 40:19
  you
• 40:19
  for
• 40:19
  all
• 40:20
  you
• 40:20
  are
• 40:20
  and
• 40:20
  all
• 40:21
  you
• 40:21
  do.
• 40:21
  We
• 40:21
  love
• 40:21
  you.
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  It.