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EP187 - Friday The 13th VII - The New Blood (Thirsty For Gore) · Thirsty For More - Movie Review

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to Thirsty Forgore. Hi, of course
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: in your host Milan and excuse me, I know I'm Alex.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. Welcome dude. How's it going, good man?
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good.
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: We're very excited today to talk about Friday the thirteenth,
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: Part seven. A new beginning?
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Is it? A new beginning? The new blood, the new blood,
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: new blood, Jason new blood. He's got to get a
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: new blood, dude.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: He's got to get so good of transfusion.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: He's got to get He's got it, dude. He's got
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: to start using uh the roller pin pin roller or
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: whatever to keep that collagen going.
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: He definitely hasn't been using. He definitely hasn't been using.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: He hasn't been micro needly mic. He needs to bring
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: some life back to that skin. Nineteen eighty eight, dude,
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: that's the.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: Year I was born. Dude. I know I was born then.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: I know, dude, I was born then.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: What's crazy is dude? That was important?
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: I was born there? Okay, dude, it's annoying. It's not
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: funny when you do it. It's only funny, and it's
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: only funny when some random narrator tells us the story
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: of what to happen to Jason.
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: So did you feel like the narrator retelling the story
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: and then us seeing the previous few parts was a
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: bit of a return to form after like the Tommy trilogy.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: It is, but also it's a little bit of Tommy
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  Speaker 1: wasn't actually real, Guys, the movies are about Jason, not.
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's not real.
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: You know, he's he's in the He's not important, guys,
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  Speaker 2: don't worry about it.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: No, he's definitely in there a lot. He's in there
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: quite a bit actually in the cuts. Yeah, but the
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: cuts are way more like frenetic than like earlier. Like
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  Speaker 1: before they were just retell part of the story. Here
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: they were just like there was a guy, his name
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: is Jason, and there definitely wasn't a Tommy. But maybe
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: you might see him if you look closely. If you
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: look closely enough, you might see a Tommy and another Tommy.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: You might maybe even a third tom You.
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  Speaker 2: Might see Part four Tommy and Part six Tommy. Definitely
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: not part five the Hated one.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, I thought this was the hated one for no, no, dud,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the Hated Tommy. Yeah, totally nobody, Like. I
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: loved the music in this the music. Yeah, I loved
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: the mask breaking in half at the beginning, foreshadowing what's.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: Going to happen, foreshadowing that we might get a break
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: in the case.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: And we might Hey, mister Mint, pretty music again. I
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I've been doing music. I'm
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: in Tulsa, Tulsa.
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: You know, I got a whole new career, whole new
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: Lisa on life. You might say, I don't know. We
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: didn't continue the season.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: Should we? I don't know. I mean maybe we should
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: do you should Maybe we should.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: Dude, actually just start from where it is.
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. So we get the beginning of the movie,
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: which is not just a recap. Not only does the
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: movie recap with a random narrator guy that's not like
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: you're doomed or something. He's a voice. He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, And we get a cold open where a
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: young Tina Hi, Tina definitely getting into more Freddie territory,
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: more Freddie more terminator lore.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: Definitely more I'll be back, dude. We'll talk about that. Also,
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: you can't omit the obvious, Carrie. This is kind of
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: like the carry one, right.
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a little bit carry You're right, she's
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: like a little girl who's who's god physics powers, I
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: mean psychic powers, but really I mean physics powers.
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  Speaker 2: But it's also like an interesting element to add to
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: Jason lore because so much of what we've seen in
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: Jason lare Is is like chad masculine rage and like violence,
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: like the fear from women of masculine violence, right, and
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: now now we see feminine rage Jason. You know, like
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: this is like our femine rage, Teina, I should say,
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  Speaker 2: because she is like there's also an element of like
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: the fear of burgeoning like pubescent sexuality for women, and
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: like that moment when like that starts happening, you have it's.
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: Like power to your wife, dude, that's what happens.
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: Well, just so the dad is hitting the wife, which
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: which like offscreen, of course we can't hate the dad
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  Speaker 2: too much because he gets his hero moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was a perfectly undecomposed No no, no, okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's not what happens. I don't know what, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But also just like yeah, it just
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: feels a little bit weird the fact that it, like
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: it plays so little into the movie, but it's such
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  Speaker 1: an interesting part of the movie where like she hates
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  Speaker 1: her dad but loves him, and it's like a complicated relationship,
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  Speaker 1: but it never really is that complicated, you know what
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think it's complicated, like it is
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  Speaker 2: for all kids, and that like you love your parents,
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  Speaker 2: but they do if like your parents are people who
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: do horrible things and make you feel unsafe, it can
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  Speaker 2: be very confusing because they're the like main source of
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: like comfort, but also the main source of like pain
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  Speaker 2: and feet.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like it's ongoing. That's why she leaves, right,
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  Speaker 1: She's like, stop doing it. I hate you, yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: and then she does kill him. Dude.
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  Speaker 2: The way the visual of the collapsing doc looks when
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: like doc when when she gets when she gets like
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: mad and like like shakes, it looks like an earthquake.
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: It looks like movie physics earthquakes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, the ging Kong Ride where things break, pieces
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  Speaker 1: perfectly fall. The thing that you're right, I think that
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: the introduction of a element like psychic powers. It's really
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: it's really two different movies colliding, which I really like. Yeah,
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: I think going back to our Schwartze season A Predator
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  Speaker 1: does this creator Predator does this well where it's like
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: military dudes clashing with aliens, and it's like so much
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: of the movie kind of has nothing to do with that,
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: but then when it does have something to do with it,
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's a great combination. It's Frieda Frieda Jason
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: thirteenth Friday parts Evans look into the week and we
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  Speaker 1: can fried A fried A. What I want to say
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  Speaker 1: is doctor Cruz I think is like one of the
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: best characters of the series, one of the best characters. Man.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: I like to have ye, like the most like Burke
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  Speaker 1: like character.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: Kind of like mustache toally the whole way through.
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but also like it's insane that they renamed it
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: Crystal Lake again after this.
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: I think that was I think that was a red con.
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: I think it was like it was never Green Grove
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  Speaker 2: or whatever we said in the last movie. Part five
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  Speaker 2: doesn't exist part time or was it part five or six?
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: Was it? Did six do that? They didn't rename it? They?
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: And is this even more future or was this concurreage? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, why is happening? What year is this? Five
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: years later? Two thousand and five. Maybe it is, who knows.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it is.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were, they're in they're in two thousand and five,
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: which is still our past, but it was their future.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: Oh totally, dude, Yeah, I mean honestly, like, you've got
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: miss Shepherd, who's.
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  Speaker 2: The momording her most another you have to chair style
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: total Yeah, the most like Rod Stewart porcupine slicked back
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  Speaker 2: up very it's a very updue porcupine to the back.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: Dude, it was very cool.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: I loved how frosted it was a young Amy Smart
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: is driving with dude, looks so.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: Much like a Smart so much. I thought, that's so
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: much as we want a cool name though.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: Tina is the character's name, but her, the.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: Actress name is Lara Park Lincoln. Yeah, that's it. She
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: did La La. That's with La, not like Laura or anything. No,
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  Speaker 1: La La La.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: That's what they call her. That's what they'd call her
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: on the East Coast, dude. And they're driving in the car.
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: They're driving towards Camp Crystal Lake, and like, you know,
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: what's cool. It's cool that it seems like Camp Crystal
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: Lake or the Crystal Lake area is like a bastion
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: for quattle Bit. It's lorified at this point that it
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: kind of seems to attract this sort of like out
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: there therapy style, and we'll find out what the out
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: thereness is for doctor Cruz eventually, but right away, you
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: know something's off. Yeah, why is she going back to
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: the place of her like greatest trauma?
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: We find out, but well, yeah, you're right, he is
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: a bit mustache twirling, but like it. I don't think
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: it is mustache twirling. I think it is like Burke
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: was the wrong guy. He's Doctor Silverman. He feels like
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: Doctor Silverman like a piece of shit, like I'm gonna
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: take advantage of this thing that I know is happening. Well,
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: but but he he I want to write a book.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: Doctor Silverman was like he had a much more realistic reaction,
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: but like this guy, this guy's doing way more worse
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  Speaker 1: shit than Doctor Silverman. Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like purposely keeping her like agitated and ir
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: like I don't want to get to it yet, but
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  Speaker 2: like keep here in.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: A space of hyper agitations. Gas Lady, how did you
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: guess this movie was supposed to be Freddy versus Jason?
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: How did you guess yeah, I knew that, But was
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: this plot supposed to be Freddy versus Jason.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: No. What happened was that the Darryl Haney, the guy
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: who wrote this one, like, tried to come up with
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of ideas and they were all just kind
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: of like and then he was like, what if we
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: did what you said actually, which is like Jason versus Carrie,
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  Speaker 1: And that's a much more I think for this time,
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: definitely a much more interesting thing, dude. Yeah, not just combinations,
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: but also like enough intrigue and mystery and goofy, like
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know, goofiness that I really like. I felt
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: like it wasn't dragging ever, you know what I mean.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: It starts and it doesn't really stop. It's like kind
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: of pretty act impact all the way through, and what
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: it does with the expediency of the storytelling, it kind
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: of lacks in character development, but the way that they
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: developed the characters through the action, it feels a lot
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  Speaker 2: more forgivable than some of the previous denimal roons we've seen.
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: And also it does the thing that it's very Freddy
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: in the fact that it gives the teens like personality
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: quirks that become who they are rather, and so it's
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: a bit of a shorthand and in some storytelling, whereas
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: like some previous Jason dnimul roons were more like like
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: just had less of a arc, less of a story.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: But also we have like a really strong permanent character
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  Speaker 1: from the beginning right away of who we're going to follow.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: We already kind of like we're always like, yeah, okay,
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: like I know this person's gonna die or whatever in
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: this scene, but we got that character we have Tina. Yeah,
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: it's not like like, oh, we go through two thirds
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: of a movie and all of a sudden, somebody the
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: main character and you're just like, really that person, I guess, Pam, Sure.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: But then we get like some stuff where it's like
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: doctor Cruz, this should be sending up red flags to anybody, truly,
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  Speaker 1: Like she's constantly like crying to her mom, Tina crying
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: to her mom being like I don't leave. I don't
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: want to be here with this guy, this fucking loser.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: And he's like, Tina, we haven't finished our work. But
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: we haven't finished our work, like dangling.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: The threat of sending her back to the institution is
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: so fucked.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And then she like runs out and then
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: sees the boat that she's on, like remembers how she
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: left on the boat, which is nice imagery because it's like, oh,
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: like Jason was on the boat and like all the
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: other women we've seen, like leaving the boat as refuge
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: or whatever, as from a murderer or a scary man.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: And then we finally get bones exposed, we get scullyos
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  Speaker 1: Is Jason, we get spine Jason, we get the most exposed,
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: most bloated, like almost almost leaking into the mask Jason almost,
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: We're almost, dude.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: This is our first introduction to the most famous Jason,
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: and like, watching this.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Movie, I totally know why he was the most famous Jason.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: Of course it totally makes sense.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, this is the most personality Jason that
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: we've ever seen her, like resurrecting him.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: But then like you know, oh no, like remembering I'm
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: my dad and my dad died in here too.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: It's there's a little bit of like a like a
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: I think the daddy element worked because Jason becomes daddy,
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: yeah totally, and like well, and then he's also well,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: he's the.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Most confident dude this one. Yeah, kan Hudder is definitely
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: the most confident. He's the most confident. Jason, he's the
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: most confident. He's the most reliable. A friend recommended him.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: He domps for her too.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: The kind of Jason from the last three movies were
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: synthesized in this one. Yes, this is synthesis of.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: The absolutely absolutely and and she Tina faints, uh and
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Jason just kind of yeah on the dock and he
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: just kind of walks out. But what's it's so terminator dude.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: But what's cool about the secondary plot of like the
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: not not as developed teens is that the through line
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: for them is, Oh, we're just waiting for our cousin.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Who's gonna show cousin. I want to see who's going
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: to show up? And he for his birthday for a surprise,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: and the surprise is Jason.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: And it sets up actually the Danny mul ruine. It
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: sets up all of the Danny mul roons in a
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: really good way because it was just supposed to be
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: a party. At first, when I saw the couple like
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: broken down on the side of the road, is that
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: the next part?
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the next part. Like at first, when I
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: saw Michael and like his girlfriend or whatever. One second
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: it's it's not quite the next part. It is almost
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: the next part. But something important is when the doctor
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: doctor Cruz is like, well, Tina, this has to do
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: with your father and you're not processing that. But I
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: saw him, I saw something different. No, no, you saw
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: her father. You thought you saw her father. It's very
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: your father wrong.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: It's so weird, Like he's he's insisting, and at this
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: point in the movie, when you don't know what's.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Going on yet with with Terry Crews, you're like, what
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: what is this? What's what's this guy's deal?
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: And like it definitely like leans into the quackery of
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: doctors in these movies as well, like they don't know
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: shit sort of thing, or that at the very worst,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: they're lying to you and gaslighting you.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Yep, crazy dude. Yes.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Then we give Michael broken down on the side of
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: the road and he's like, it's just fucking camp here. Oh,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: we gotta get to the cabin. It's really close. We
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: have to walk back to the car.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: The next day. Nick will do it. What do you mean, Nick,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: what are you talking? Are you fucking Nick? No? No,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: we just had a fucking surprise party. For you. Your surprise.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: You we're gonna fuck Nick. I didn't say anything about
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: fucking Nick Listen. We were gonna include you too. Oh,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a third. You're a third. You didn't tell
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: me that I've been part of a polycule for two years.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Two years, we've been dating for four.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: They decide to go to meet the polycule, but.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: He's got a pee. He's mad. He'll be back in
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: two shakes to Shake's phrase. Man, anytime Jason touched anybody
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: in this one was like, no, he's touching her mouth.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: You think the same gray like skin like that breaks
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: apart really easily, so that whenever he's doing anything dexterous.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. There's so much handheld Jason
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: in this and he is although they're like constantly showing
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: not wide Jason, medium, low angle Jason to be like
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: this guy's giant, and it's so noticeable in this where
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, man, dude, you're so scary.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Case told me there's a kill in this movie that's
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: so iconic it becomes a major iconic Jason killed that
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: they include like from here on in, including Freddy versus
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Jason and I'm not sure, I spotted it. Like we
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: saw Daggers throwing Jason again Hunter j.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Which is like he throws the dagger that that Tina
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: later recognizes as the other dagger. What what was that?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: What was that supposed to be? I don't know. I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: don't know. Serious to a kid, I don't know. Then
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: we meet this sit don looking guy. Oh man, I saw,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I know you did. It looks great, dude. Yeah, the
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: mom thought the said he looked gray. I was like,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I thought he looked I don't know the last time
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I saw him. But he was missing teeth. Is he
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: still a missing teeth? No? No, I didn't see any
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: missing teeth. Nick. Yeah, I love Nick. Nick is. Nick
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: is great.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: One of the best boyfriends you know so far so far.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: He was really cool. It's sort of Christopher Reeves's style,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: fry Christopher Reeves, very handsome guy. Yeah. And then this
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: like dork fucking screenwriter. He would be a screenwriter now,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: but he's a science fiction writer. He's Eddie Stories. Yeah
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: he is. He is very Crispin Glover. Crispin HELLI and
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Glover totally.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I mean this is a post post back in the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: future world, dude.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we got we got like shy Maddie
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: who's got the glasses. She's the dorky one, and.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: We have her cooler, punkier friend with the red bangs.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Robin the stoner David, who both of the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: girls want to fuck. Everybody has their own like weird subplot,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: including an never explained fight that the only black couple has. Yeah, yeah,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: they're they're in some kind of fight, just just daimul
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Roon's Yeah, absolutely so. Having introduced everyone to everyone and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Melissa the socialite being like, I fucking hate you because
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I like Nick and I'm trying.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: A random crew of people though, like were these people
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: all friends or like it wasn't a bit of a
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: ragtag because they were like, ah, we're here from I'm
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: here from my cousin.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think part of what's nice about it
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: is that you get like, well, it's his friends, yea,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and it's a surprise part he's a mix of friends
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: is a dangerous thing to I. I recently had a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: mix of friends situation and it turned out pretty good,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: but I noticed, I noticed how you do have to
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: do it. You have to supplement a new person to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: be a part of the out group every time you're
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: with the in group, So you have to be a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: little bit with your in group and be like, oh yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: like we're hanging out, and then you have to go
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to the new people and be like, I'm gonna hang
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: out with you guys and find out what's But you
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: can't hang out too much because then it becomes like weird.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I don't know.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I don't really understand what kind of I'm not sure
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: that you.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Don want to two worlds collide to I know, but
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I don't do it that your way? What do you do?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I just I just ignore that. No, I talk to
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: whoever I want to talk to for how long I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: want to talk.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: And I'll create the groups like I'll join people, I'll
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: join the random people together.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: But sometimes it's too me. It's too small a group
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: to be like oh yeah, like because somebody it's like
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: five people and two people are people you don't know
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: of the rest of us don't know, so it's got
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to be like I don't know, Well, but that's not
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm right.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I was talking about combining different groups of friends that
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: normally don't interact with each other.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what if you're the friends. Yeah, if I'm
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: part of the friend group, that's not the like.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, but I'm talking about your like I was looking
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: at it through Michael's perspective of knowing everything.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: So of course, of course that's fine. But what I'm
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: saying is like to make it easier for them to
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: come into the group. So you're saying, if you're part
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: of more part of one group, yes, and you're at
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: a party like this exactly exactly because the host shouldn't
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: always have to cater to know like the one through
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the host. The host needs to be the host, right,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: So they got a carricter to everybody, So you gotta
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: let them be a little bit, and you got to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: interact with the new friends, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: it's your responsible responsibly because if you're a good friend, yeah,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you got you gotta like be like, well they see
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: something in this peep these people, even though it's not
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: good dude. I mean sometimes I'm like, why are you
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: friends with me? You like people like this? Why are
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you friends with me? Speaking of why you friends with me?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I love Tina's first vision of David getting stabbed and
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Jason being there, like Jason isn't super scary in this one,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: but he's got a lot of presence. It's not it
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: is scary, but it's like more like I don't know
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: how to describe it because it's not jumping out. It's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: just like, oh no, I don't know what to do.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: There was a couple jumping out parts, but yeah, dude,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Jason fucking stabbing David and then Tina running out, then
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Melissa coming up to Nick being like, where are you going?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Stud and then he's like, I like you, I think
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you're interesting. Yeah, totally this weird girl, she's been in
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: a mental institution. Wow, the budgets for these movies are
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: so low and compares them to how much they made
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: and compared to two point eight million dollars, you can
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: make a movie with that money. Now, people don't fucking
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: do it, dude. So the doctor uh goes to try
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and calm Tina down, and the mom sort of gets
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the ick from the doctor because he's a little bit
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: like creepy and not creepy in a sex sex way,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: but creepy in a still exploitative way. And then we
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: cut to two campers who are outside. They're like, you know, cold,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and try She's like, what did you get some more wood?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I got all the wood in the world.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: But he doesn't say that, but I was hoping he would.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I would hoping, and he goes, I'll be back.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He actually does a schwartzy impression, which is amazing,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and then fucking Jason just shoves his entire hand through
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: his chest. He fists him so densely just to get
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: but like, with that kind of strength and that kind
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: of power, why to do it with a knife.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: So listen, Like an observation I wanted to make is
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: that the thing that's been remarkably consistent about Jason is
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: that he just kills in like a fit of territoriality
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: or sort of like it's almost like the impression of revenge,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: but it's not really revenge. It's almost like a compulsion.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing that I have really noticed that's
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: actually terrifying about Jason. It's not that he's evil. He's
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: not evil. He's very neutral. Y's very neutral. He doesn't
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: have motivations other than like territoriality and like proximity. He's
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and he's just been on the same rampage.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: That we started with him on forever. That's what's amazing
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: about Jason is that we've actually seen a continuation of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: his story from the very beginning. Dude, Yeah, we haven't
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: seen Jason stop. In fact, he's been in a hyper activated,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: agitated state, agitated state like Tina since since he was
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: alive again. They're supposed to be kind of like parallel characters. Yeah,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. Also, Tina tells the doctor that
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: she had a vision of Michael dying. But hasn't you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: he hasn't. He's he's just she's just experiencing it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: When do we get the part when he like gaslights
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: her about the like spike through the through the door
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: that he like she finds it. She sees a spike
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: through the door and then like he moves it.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Oh he he does it. He like we see the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: spike in the door at the last point we saw them. Uh.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: And then Jason murders this woman in a sleeping bag
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: by throwing her in the sleeping bag against the trade.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: It's such a great death.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Was that the his case told me that there's a
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: murder in this movie that becomes so iconic that it
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: continues in the other was that the murder because I
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: think I've seen that before. It's probably that that one
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: that was pretty amazing.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: It's great, it's such a great it's such a great kill.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: And this is the this is the thing that inspired
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: me to talk about. What I was talking about about
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Jason's motivations is like she's dead, he doesn't need to
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: do anything else. And Onna commented on it too, She's
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: like he doesn't really do anything with the bodies. He
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: kind of gathers them in this one. He is a
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: repeat thing from a previous Jason either five or six
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: or whatever it was. But like like, yeah, he why
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: do you think that is?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Why did he gather them this time? Yeah? That I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: He sometimes sets them up for people to like see
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: them as like weird like dead scarecrows almost.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's not beyond like terrifying, but it's always
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: with just the intention to kill them, like not to
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: torture them, not to but he terrifies them to be
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: like this is my Oh he's he's kind of like,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: we don't take too kindly to your types. The ultimate
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you know, country bumpkin dude.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: It's true. And then we get introduced to I guess
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the rest of the characters, the rest of the teens.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: The Black couple. By the way, that dude looked so
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: much like Jordan Peel in a wig doing silly faces,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: almost like Jack Black style movements of his face.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Doctor Cruz reminded me of he did have Jack Black
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: face movements. Doctor Cruz reminded me a bit of doctor
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Jordan Peterson, another toxic man trying to control women.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Tina and and Nick are talking to each other and
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: she's like, I've been to a mental institution and he's like, well,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't finish school and I left home. I went
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to Linquent I go to night school. Now you know
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: what that good for him? Dude Like, oh, totally awesome.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I think I thought this was cool too, because like
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: they're like both kind of you know, he's like wrong
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: side of the tracks. She's like, you know, troubled. So
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: it's it works, and and it's like you kind of
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: feel like they're like there's if I was a kid,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, they're.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: In a relationship. Yeah, totally totally. That was enough to
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: make them like.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: The movie really also leaned into the signs and signifiers
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: of like you know who the nerds are, who the
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: yuppies are, Who the like popular kids are, who the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: good looking kids?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: It really like did that with.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Like you know, pearl necklaces and like headbands and like
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: glasses and goofy hairstyles and like different kind of costure,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Like you know, there's this stoner guy and there's the
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: like like a guy who dresses up like the Mummy.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: After I want to talk a little bit about because
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Kay's was talking to me today about the forms of
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: monsters and like he was saying that Freddie is like
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: a Dracula and that like Jason like a Frank sign,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and like I think that's.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Interesting and cool, and Michael is like a mummy. Yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: but I like that there was like that reference to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: mummies in this movie. It made me think about that, Yeah, totally.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: And then but then Melissa, the preppy one with her pearls,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: she dresses the like nerd sci fi loser backwards in
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: his jacket and it's like a stray jacket. Well, because
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: she she's hiding in the bushes, She's she's a cut queen. Dude.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: She's hiding in the bushes looking at herself, getting cooked,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: looking at Nick, flirting with Tina, and she he's like,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you know, in the corner, flick at her bead, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and then she goes back and she's like, I'm gonna
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I overheard that she's in a mental institution.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be mean to her.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: So that's why she puts on a fake straight jacket
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: to be like, look at this fucking loser man.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Like it's it's also crazy how much because she she
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: freaks out obviously, and then leaves to go back to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: her doesn't just freak out, she freaks out and tears
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the necklace apart.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this movie has very interesting and weird physics
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the special effects. Like sometimes there's one part where Jason
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: looks like he's both trying to rip someone's head open
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: while crushing it. So I like didn't understand like was
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the necklace getting pulled in towards her or was it
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: just getting like weirdly expansive.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, it did have weird physics. And she's like
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: it looks like she's also.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Like they imply that she gets choked by it or something.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. But also when she leaves,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: when Tina leaves to go back to doctor Cruz, and
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: he's like, we've only just started our work and she
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: gently tosses the TV at him. Yeah.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I thought that was so funny, dude, and like so
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: well done.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: But also this is the first unhinged moment with with
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: doctor Cruz because he's just straight up yelling. But the
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: entire time, no one seems comfortable around him. No, And like, yeah,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: that that should have I feel like that should have
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: played in a little more because the mom is uncomfortable.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: But like Tina's constantly crying, just like being like I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: don't want it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: They literally never yeah, no, she very consistently never wants
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: to be in his presence. Yeah, and it's I mean
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's because she's intuitive, psychic and stuff, and
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: like she knows things. She's got like intuition. So that's
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: the other thing, dude, is if like she's the parallel
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: for Jason in this movie, then she's directly laurifying the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: magic of Jason. Yeah right, because like we're now in
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: a universe that includes telekinesis and premonitions and like so
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: like what is there to like stop us from making
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: the jump of like spirits leaping into other bodies and
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: things like that, you know, yeah, totally. It's lurified magic Jason, Yeah, totally,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: which also laurifies it more in Freddie reality too, because
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: it's suddenly become like if there's magic in a reality, yeah,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: or he's like just a strong guy or a live
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: strong guy. But what ever since like zombie like rotting Jason.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Now it's peeping Tom Jason looking on upskirt ladies, jerking
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: off in the corner, off in the corner of the lake, Jason.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's definitely like a jerk off element to
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: to Jason. Yeah, but like it's it's the thing is
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: the kid call the kids who are watching these movies jerkovs,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: because that's who's watching the movies. Yeah, So I feel
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: like making him just this menace is enough. Yeah, but
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: the series, this part of this movie lorifies that this
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: entire series is only for like eleven to like fourteen
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: year olds. Yeah, for sure that is the target age
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: one hundred.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Russell and Sandra, two of the preppier characters, go off
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: to go skinny dipping, and I think one of my
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: favorite mush face kills is Jason swiping up into Russell's
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: face and splitting it kind of in half, like the
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: nose being Oh, he kind of like caves caves. Yeah,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: it's like but there's like a split between the face.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And then he goes into she goes into the water,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and he goes into the water, and then like oh Jason, Yeah,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Jason goes into the water walking underneath. Yeah, and it
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: almost looks like Jaws, the Jaws shot.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I like that, Like the density of Jason's body is
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: so that he like doesn't float, He just kind of
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: like walks underneath.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Seems like parts of him were just hollow now where
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the water would just leak in and he just just
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: fills up. Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's so bones, like
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: so much bone.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: It's crazy though, like how because he wouldn't be this
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: thick And also but I look, bones are embedded in
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the like rotting meat.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: It's cool. It's I mean, it's it's really cool.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: It also makes it seem like that the fact that
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: his body's working as well as it is is like
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: magical too. Yeah, totally, he's definitely magical strength Jason.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. The nerd girl goes upstairs to put
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: on her like, you know, best outfit and put on makeup.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: You didn't say that, like she's wearing glasses due they're fighting.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: They're fighting over the same stoner boy, and uh did
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: the like you know, red bangs wins out and she's like,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: She's like, you have to step up.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: You think you're good enough for this guy. You have
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to like this guy. Like that was the funniest part
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: to me. It was like what but I guess their
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: scenes whatever. Also like nerds, like I don't know, like
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the fact that everyone was like they're not hot. I'm like,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: this is this is the most in cell of all
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: of them, because at least before it was like this
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: fucking nerd, whereas these guys are all jerk offs totally.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: And she uh, she like goes upstairs to get dulled up,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: and Jason full makeover, drags Sandra out.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Of the fucking water in the most like this is
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: all okay.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: So, like the this part brought back some brutality and violence.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: It's not funny gory. It's more like brutal Jason like,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: it's like the kills are like more violent and more visceral,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Like it's so you the gore that you do see
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: is enough to make you be like oh. And also
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: they brought some of the sexiness back, but now the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: movie is way more obviously like sexy sex written fucking teens.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah totally, yeah on steroids. Yeah, and Melissa takes Eddie
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: up and she's like, I'm gonna make Nick jealous. But
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and also they brought back.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Breathing Jason. Yeah, heavy breathing, panting Jason. So Jason's a
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: bit more of an obvious jerk off.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: In this one. Yeah, totally. And we see also that
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: for some reason, the doctor also knows that Jason is
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: they and a murderer. He's like doctor like articles, articles,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and that's where you see the like he took the
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: tried the to try the tooth hardcore dude, and yeah, dude,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: And now Melissa is like dicking Eddie around even though
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: like I don't like him at all, Like you feel
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: bad for him because she's like such a like think
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I like you. Yeah, you think she's a nasty woman,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: a very nasty because like the weird the worst part
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: is about like this because you don't want to be
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: like she's such a bitch because somebody, I think this
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: guy calls are a cunt in it.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: But listen, dude, like the writer wrote, a writer. The
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: writer wrote a cunt, you know what I mean?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Like this guy is that guy. That's that's the thing.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: This is guy stories, science fiction stories about visitors from
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the other planets. We get miss shamanically acting dude to
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: shamanic acting. Man, Yeah, Crispin is one of the guys.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: There's the one of our shamen.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend recently, my friend Tom,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: who I really want to introduce you to because he's
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: an actor and he's really funny and really good and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: does great impressions. But he he recently I was talking
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: to him about shamanic acting and I was telling him
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: who their shumantic actors are and he's like, yeah, yeah,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: that makes sense, that makes sense.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I also introduced them to She's not a crush, speaking
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of she's not a Christian. Miss Shepherd goes into the
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: files of doctor Yeah, doctor Cruz and is like a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: state of agitation, and then she finds one tape where
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: exactly in that moment, he's like, I'm trying to keep
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: her in an agitated states so that I can look
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: kidder psychokinetic abilities. She's so powerful and he's like almost
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: it sounds.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Like he's heavy breathing and jerking off on the cassette
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: is like he's like, it's like, oh, yeah, she's so psychokinetic.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I'm really hoping that I just agitated enough that she
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: gives me a hand job, a virtual hand job. I mean,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: it would be amazing if all he wanted was like
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: a like a like a psychic candjob where like his
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: dick just gets jerked off by the air exactly, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: like his pants get undone and his dick gets unfolded
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: out and then just gets like air jerked off and
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: he's like, oh, he's just coming and that's all you wanted.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: To But but it's really dry. It's like, oh no,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: there's nothing I could do. And then he tries, he
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: tries to spin on it, but but the psychic just
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: won't let it do it. You know. The punishment the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: try is stand job in the world. Yeah, this bitch
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: just grazes the side. Yeah so but she So the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: mom finds the spike as doctor Cruz is also going
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: for a walk and sees dead Michael like has strangled
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: in the tree or whatever. But he way, we have
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: to use this tree. Guys.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, they knew as soon as they saw a tree
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: that could hold a body.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but he he sees the spike as well
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that killed this dude, and is like, she did see
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: something with her psychic abilities, And this is where he
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: starts believing that she actually did see a Jason.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: But they just show his belief through kind of his
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: like manic magical reactions to her, like he's just like
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: he starts getting more outrageous and his reactions, like his
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: reactions are very wide eyed and.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Like what how do you know that?
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: And like he's just but I mean, if you were
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: this crazed and like Jason crazed, but also like psychokinetic corny,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: he's so psychokanetic horny.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: He is. He wants it. He wants his pineal gland stimulator.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: He wants his like like a ghost hand job.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. She Tina overhears what happened, and she runs
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: away and then this one's a cool one of the coolest,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: one of the coolest visuals in the movies, which is
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: she's driving away scared, but then sees her mom getting
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: killed by Jason in the middle of the road.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Dude, that was so cool, and then it disappears. Also
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: laurifies some like a bit of dream logic and magical Jason, like,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you cannot be sure that you saw what you saw Jason, totally, totally.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: The Nerd is completely dulled up and looking for uh
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Eddie the stoner boy. She wants to she wants a
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: dick appointment. Dude, she wants uh to give him a
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: second round. Oh yeah, dude, totally horny teens dude back
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: in a big way in the late eighties.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: This this one felt a bit nihilistic in a way. Yeah,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: because it's like seven movies. You know what you're gonna get.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: It's back at Crystal Lake. Like, dude, Jason has not
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: left Crystal Lakes seven movies in this is his home,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: glorified Crystal Lake, Like he can't exist in other places.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Dude, I know, I know, I know. We'll see. Well.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: He goes on an adventure. He goes when McCauley McCaulay went,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Jason has to go my home when I'm no longer
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: allowed to practice business. New York City, the Big Apple.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: We all love it, folks, we all have it ever
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: since I came down the escalator. We've loved it. The
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Nerd goes and runs away, and she like she's like,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: where are you? Did he discover the murders. No, she
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: what she does is she loses an ear ring, and
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: then a body falls out of the tree, the like
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: pussy face in the middle falls out of the tree,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: and Jason steps out from behind a tree and slowly
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: stalks her.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: So like the body imposition Jason and those choices, and
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: also like the kind of it's kind of wrestler moves.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I mean, it's he looks
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: like cane. He looks a cane. But like also at
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the start of a little bit of new metal, like
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: new it's metal now in the eighties, but it's new metal. Really.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I like chains.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: It's like like we're retroactively putting that onto.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: We are retroactor putting on. We are speaking of new metal. Dude.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: There's this cool band that I've been enjoying called chat Pile,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a new metal band that you should check out. I'll
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: check it out, dude. No, but I I couldn't help
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: but think of slip Nod me too. Yeah, did you
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: see that Glory was on fucking hot Wings due No
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I wear was eating the wou But yeah, she ends
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: up in a tool The nerd ends up in a
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: tool shed. And this is a very like New Metal
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: e scene. But also it's very cool because it's like
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: she's like sneaking around and stuff, and I feel like
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: it's like, nah, this it would have been cool to
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: let her go a little bit, but she ends up
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: behind like a wall and he punches through and fucking
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: sickles her, and it's pretty fun.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I gotta say, dude, I think this one is the
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: best one for kids.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I think I think that if if we saw these
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: ones and the Freddy or Jason was glorified for us
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: as kids, we would have loved this one the most.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I think she's easily and nineteen eighty eight we would
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: have been the perfect age to like to see it
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: really young, you.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Know, hundred percent. Doctor Cruz and miss Shepherd gone into
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the woods to look for Tina uh, and they see
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the crashed car and she's got the most perfect mom reaction,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: which is like, oh dude, shrieking.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: It's so funny, and like how erratically and continuously she's
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: just walking through the woods yelling. It's like a very
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: realistic reaction, like somebody who's panicking would just do something
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: like this, And and I think it was one of
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: the most in a series that's like gotten notoriously like
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: weird reactions to things like very Danny mul roone outrageous reactions.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: This was very fun and funny and real, like it
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: would have been what somebody would do. Absolutely shreaking and scared.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. The two black characters, the dude acting like black,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: they like resolve their differences and the back and he's
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: like crushing his head and then she he's got like
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a buzzer thing that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Wait, who's crushing whose head?
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Jason gets is crushing the black dude's head and.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: How wait, no, they're fucking and then like what he
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: comes and like she shuts the van and yeah, he
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: circles the van thinking it's Michael.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then how does he kill him? He crushes
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: his head, but then he.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Takes her head and starts. It looks like he's ripping
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: it apart and crushing it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: That's true. No, no, no, he well with with him.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: He's he's crushing his head. And then he takes the
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: the buzzy blowy thing whatever that blowy and sticks it
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: through her eyeball. Yeah, yeah, the thing that goes the
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: only two members of this family have special rings. Yeah,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I was talking about our wedding rings. Yeah, they have
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: one of those things. Oh, and then Melissa is trying
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: to have sex with this dude, this other nerd, and
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: she's like she's tried to have sex with her, that's true,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: and she's like your watch and I was like, fucking gross,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I hate you. I just fucked you to make that
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: other guy jealous. And he makes the like dopious, like
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: like idiot face and he's like, fine, I'll just go
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: take a cold shower, but you you're supposed to heavy
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: sympathize with him. Yeah, it's really funny. And I don't
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I don't have fuck dude. I mean like like it's
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: a shitty thing, but it's an outrageous writing choice for
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: like this cold bitch man. I hate the cold shower thing.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: She's just like the most hateful bitch. Yeah, he definitely
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: like wrote in somebody. He was like, I'll show her.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: I'll show her, and then she might have watched, and
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: she was like, that's not how it happened.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: This isn't how it happened. You're fucking idiot. This is why.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Lets Yeah, totally, it's totally exactly why you just presented
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: me this fucking vapid idiot. What's wrong with you? This
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: is why I left your ass, ah Man, And then
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the the like stoner guy gets just fucking stabbed by Jason.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Uh and it's it's just just Jason now, yeah, totally.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Tina and Nick find the gun that belongs to her dad,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and she finds the articles that the doctor was mysteriously
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: knew about Jason Man.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Tina finds the articles. Yeah, oh wait, this is important.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: It's about Jason, and.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Then she starts like collapsing all the pictures on the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: wall and stuff and throwing the books around. Man.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: One of the coolest scenes. I don't know if we're
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: getting there yet, but when she collapses like the like
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: the doc around Jason or like the front porch around Jason.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was great. And then Jason just casually
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: walking around the house looking around.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Well, He's say, this is like the most humanized Jason
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: because like we kind of get him in parts where
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: we haven't really seen Jason in certain contexts before. And
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: we're also you know a second movie now lorified, like
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: people see Jason just do stuff because before before like
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: we would never see we only saw Jason during the
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: scary kill parts. But now you have to see Jason
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: kind of doing a thing sometimes.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: And then this poor sap who was the science fiction writer.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: She's like, he's like, what have you come back for more?
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: And it's just Jason. It's just Jyson now. Yeah, I
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: mean he kills these people like pretty quickly, like all
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the sort of like the redhead with the bangs and
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: and the loser who tried to have sex with the
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the posh girl, They're sort of all taken out pretty quickly. Uh.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: And then Jason takes the redhead after getting scared by
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: some poor pa throwing a cat at.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Her, the continuation of like just abusing animals, just throwing cats.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: She tries to like leave, and then Jason looms into
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: the room and does her up and throws her out
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the window the.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Way he and like the brutalness of the way the
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: fall happens and how she just like her body just
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: like falls onto the ground. And I was like, whoa
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: did that actor hurt their face?
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, just like yo, yeah, totally, oh my god, dude. Yeah,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: it was a very it was a very like intense
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: and cool part. Yeah. Tina tries to go and find
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: her mom because she knows that her mom is probably dead,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and Nick advises her against it and to stay in
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the house. And while he goes to investigate next door,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and we see the doctor and the mom outside and
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: the doctor this is like the most Burke energy.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: He has, uh, And the mom is like, oh dude,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: like even the energy he has before, he like causes
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: the mother's death.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Weirdly, like like the like that we've never seen this
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: into Jason. Oh yeah, I thought that was the mom
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: down and being like she kills as a shield for yourself.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: But like really Burke move and oh, such Burke energy. Like,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: but what what happens in the scene? How does this
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: scene play out? Like the thing is it plays out
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: in this way? They're like Nick goes over, Jason walks
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: back into the woods to loom. Uh. Doctor, doctor Cruz,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: and and the mom are like panicking and she He's like,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: we have to go back. We have to find Tina.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Oh everything he said.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Ever, I was like, is this guy like I would
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: never believe anything this guy said, Like he sounds insane
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: always totally.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: But also Jason keeps getting new to wolves from someone. Okay,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: so this was like the thing that stood out most
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: to me because it's that like it's like a weird
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: like like like like an edger of grass but with
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: a blaze. It looks like a sword. It looks like
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: a weapon. It doesn't look like something you use for
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: gard Nick.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: He has like basically like a saw, an extended hand
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: saw that like is like a carbine tips.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, that's not the thing that that's
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: a different weapon. It's this one that he's using. This like, oh,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: it's just like a big big he looks like a stick.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: He kind of He's got props now, dude, Yeah, Jason's
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: got like jason Esque props. Inexplicably, Jason esq props and
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: he stabs the mom. And this is two thousand and five, dude.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: It's slight future for them. Maybe they were like, oh,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: in the future, we're gonna use these like hockey school weapons, dude.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: People want to make cocky stick blades.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Dude. It's just cool. It's like such zero now plane zero.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Nick finds the body of that fucking loser and runs
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: back to the house and doesn't see that Tina. It
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't see Tina's there, but Melissa's there and she's like,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: but I want to fuck and it's funny because they've
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: set they've almost set her up to be just as
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: bad a person as the doctor because they almost keep
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: it like cutting back and forth to them being like, oh,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: these are the schemers they're getting totally dude. Yeah, but
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: it's like it's not comparable at all. This jick just
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: wants to fuck this dude. For some reading, they made
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: her seem so it's so much more over the top evil,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: like it's like very like Heather's energy. Oh, totally very
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: like mean girl, and I love man. I thought. The
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: reason I thought, uh, doctor Cruz was one of the
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: best characters in the whole series so far, up there
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: with Tommy for me, was he he comes panicked out
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: of the woods covered in blood and is like, it's like, Tina,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: you have to come with me. Where's my mom? She's
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: back in the house and just like you're lying, you're
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: a liar, and I was just there and then it's
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: just she's like blood and he's like, Okay, she's dead.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: She're right, she's gone.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: She's like such like so scary that you can't trust
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: the adult and also another example of an adult man
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: that she can't trust, Like every adult man in her
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: life is dangerous. Yeah, her dad, this fucking doctor who's
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: in charge of her, he's got he's got Britney Spears conservatorship,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and and and like the ineffectual loser mom and like
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: fucking Jason, who's just terrifying.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Who's just Jason? Uh? And then man Jason comes out.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: This is where he comes out with his spinning blade chainsaw.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: It looks like a weed whacker with a chainsaw on it.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's cool, it's so cool. I mean it's
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: maybe it's modifications Jason.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's like like.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: He's got like like his rotting figures, he's got like skills. Yeah,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: but like, how is the dexterity of the goo? Like
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: did he like when he's like screwdriving something, did he
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: like goo his hand?
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: He definitely goos his hand. But then she u Tina
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: finds her mom and she's dead. Uh. And she finds
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: her friend or the other people here. This is where
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: like Jason's been taking all the bodies. And she sees
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: the black lady with the the thing zom thing and
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: zoomy thing in her eye, A bunch of next slits
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: faces vagina open.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitly a lot of pussy faces. Yeah, dude,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: very audacious.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: In the killing department. And I love, I love when
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: she confronts she sees Jason, and the camera fucking smash
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: cuts into him a bunch of times, like it's so cool.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: It's very music video Jason. It's very music video Jason,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: very new Metal Jason. And now she gets to test
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: her powers, dude. Oh man, Well, he's like pulling the
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: roots out of the ground and tying him up and
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: then putting him in shit water dude.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like also pulling down an electricity wire
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: to plug into the the but we know that he
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: gets his powers from terminator. The New Metal like him
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: celemetricity by terminator lightning and falling into the puddle the
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: ship puddle is amazing, dude. And then like shit, Jason,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: he's just like pooh, he smells like diarrhea. Dude, that's
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: totally the septic tank.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: They likes her, ah man, and like not just that,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: but he's like so like soaked in it too, because
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: he's got like, yeah, it's you could tell that some
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: of the hollowness is filled in with pool water water.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: She runs back into the house that's next door to her.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: She sees all the fucking balloons and Jason fucking jumps
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: through the window deck kress jumping through the window, knees shattering,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: jumping through the bone goo gray meat. What happens when
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: he like smashes through a window, because you still have
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: to hit the window. You still have to It's like
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: when schwartzy interminator falls on the ground with that eight
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: hundred pound skeleton inside, mushing the pads of your feet.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: That's what is, dude. Every time he punches something the forest,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: the force of the metal grazing the meat sack the meat.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: The thing about the meat is it only needs to
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: last long enough to get him through time.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: After that.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm sure that like just even like walking
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: would like, cause he's the for the force of that
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: eight hundred pounds, like just the rip through the meat
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: out sack.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, yeah, totally speaking of sacks of meat. Jason
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: walks towards her while she's like closing doors and like
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: barricading them, and then gently lifts the couch up and
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: it gently falls on on Jason. And then like she
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: picks up a tree the junk and gently throws it
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: at him due well, no, not a tree. It was
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: like like a plant to Sarah, plant with a head,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: a decapitated head of the nerd guy. Oh yeah, totally.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: You know, he's got like a surprised face. He's like, well,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: she she falls on the crowd and like accidentally fingers
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: the mouth, and it's like, oh dude, the accidentally fingering
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: the mouth is really funny.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of really like interesting little touches like
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: that of this movie that I really appreciated because it
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: felt like it gave the movie a lot of personality.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it gives her the idea fingering the mouth
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: gives her the idea to throw the plant at Jason
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: because the head is in the plant.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: And you know what, It's kind of cool because Jason's
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: getting terrorized in this part too, because we get the
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: return of like surprise Jason, which is also laurified. Yeah,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: like he's then very like face reactive Jason, like this
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: body reactive Jason. Also, well, they show a lot of
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: eye stuff. They start showing a lot of eye stuff
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: with Jason in this one. So it just kind of
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: for me connects to the reactability of Jason, Like he's like, oh, like,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: this is confusing. I usually I don't usually I'm not
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: up against magic.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And that's what's awesome about it, is like,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: oh I thought I was the only magic around, but
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I'm too du to realize.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this still a dumbness to it, which is good.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, she she she does a good You're right.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: He does do a really good job being surprised and
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: like that kind of like little boy frightened when he
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't know what's happening.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: It's it's all informed by like how he's using his shoulders.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Shoulder, Yeah, totally shoulder acting on undred percent. And this
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: is where the roof collapses on him, which I think
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: is my favorite Jason getting rid of Jason.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: I like, I thought this scene was so cool and
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: even though it's like a fake out ending, it's so
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: satisfying to and it feels like such a win.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Punches through the roof and oh dude with his rottings.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Well, he definitely broke a lot of meat off in that.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Punch totally, and he grabs an axe and he heads
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: towards h like her house and as Melissa. As Melissa
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: opens the door after being angry at both of them
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: for not getting to be a cuckqueen. We get our daddy.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Tom comes in with a fucking axe and not just
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: axes her, but axes her in the head, grabs the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: body and throws it across the room. It's not just that, dude.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: The force with which they showed the like landing of
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: the hit feels like he's dug so far into her
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: skull with the axe, So like the way they showed
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: that was really cool, and it was very very effective
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: while still being a little subtler and not gory with
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: the with.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: The violence, you know what I mean. And they've also
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: solidified this is the only way to shoot Jason to
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: look menacing close up, low down. He's very looming in this.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: And then when he's like climbing up the stairs, it's
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: so scary. He's very very it's it's so awesome. It's
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: so awesomely shot, and I love all the sun ic powers. Dude,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: when she takes the big light and whips it at
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: him as he gets to the top of the stairs
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: and the force of his gigantic rotting body falls through
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: the floor. And then I loved when Nick is like
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: climbing down the stairs and he uses a piece of
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: the stair on the side to like jump down.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: That's one of the subtle things in this movie. It
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: had side stairs that they could like you could tell
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: they maybe wrote around their circumstances a little bit, and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: the things that stick out to us as viewers are
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: just solutions they came up with in the on the set. Yeah, totally.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: And then he crashes through the floor of the bottom
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: of the stairs and tries to get Nick or throws
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Nick to the ground and tries to like step on
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: him to death.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: But then oh, yeah, I've never seen Jason attempt to
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: like step on like someone's hips before.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And then he's just mummy Jason. When she
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: tries to goo his head by strapping the mask more
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and more to his head comes out of the gross puss.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, so it's some more stuff, a little bit about
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: the mechanics of like Jason's body at this point, does
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: puss and redness inside the blood imply there's still something alive,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Like there's like systems like being like you know, because
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: he's not just like totally like gray. That's just like
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: maybe the outside, but inside he could still be a
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: real life person.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Oh man, and the jaundiced eye, the eyeball that's just
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: like yellow and it's like that doesn't look like a
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: contact lens. And like the like mask of Jason is
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: so bold and like to me as a kid, would
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: have been so satisfying to see this unmasking. This is
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: like one of the most satisfying unmaskings of Jason. I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: think that we've ever seen. It's the chunkiest. It's the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: new Blood marinated. It's in the title, Dude, it's new blood.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: He is flesh and blood Jason still yeah, yeah, well
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: he sees dead. He pulls her down. He does, he
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: has lots of heart. He pulls her down and then
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: takes the the wire off that she she took like
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: she like wraps the wire around his neck, pulls him
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: up and then rips the floor down and then he
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: falls through and she tries to to like help Nick,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: but ends up getting pulled down by Jason. Yeah. And
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: then they have this basement fight and then she's just
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: like spray gasoline on him with her psychic powers and
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: gets on her. I love that they showed some getting
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: on her and she takes it off. She doesn't have
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: total control of her. And then she's like shooting fire
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: at him. It was amazing and it was a great scene.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: She fires, she like makes fire happen out of the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: out of the furnace, out of the home alone furnace.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah uh, Nick and her escape as just Jason is
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: burning in this fiery hell hole and the house just
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: explodes in another fake out. In another fake out, I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: don't know, like I don't know what kind of gasoline,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: probably from all the fertilizer that this guy has been
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: hiding through. The septics take blew up too, just diarrhea.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Now oh man, And she said they're they're both so relieved.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: But then out of nowhere, Jason just is there and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: grabs her and throws her and Nick tries to shoot him.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Shure shoot shoo shop.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: That's how he shoots him. He shoots him in the
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: most like come alone way, like it just doesn't do anything.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Well, Like this is the most you mentioned WWF. This
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: is the most WWF he is where he like pulls
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: her off and he does turn around like you know people, Yeah, exactly,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: And then he throws Nick into the boat and she
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: summons her perfectly fine, not aged at all, same age,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: same age, same actor, father who's just covered in some seaweeds,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of different seaweeds, and he pulls Jason down
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: in and wraps his neck with a chain. So, okay,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm gonna say something. I like this.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I like it a lot. I like it too, dude.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's cool, and I think it's actually very
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: in keeping with Jason lore, and it's using the little
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: child from part one to imply that, like Jason can
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: be kind of different magical things, you know what I mean,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Like it can be a perfectly formed.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Dad that comes out of the water. I don't know, dude,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: it was a bit of a stress like it's very
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: like the wackiest fucking Tales of the Crypt episode. Well
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: it so tales, Yeah, it feels very Tales from the Crypt.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I think these are the these types of the Friday
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: the thirteenths are my favorite because they're like tales from
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: the crap.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I would have dude, I'm telling you right now, I'm
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: not asking. I'm telling I would have loved this part
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: if I if I saw this as a kid, I wish.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: I wish today when I saw this, I wished I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: saw it as a kid. I wish you and I
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: saw it together as kids, because we would have like,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: it's so imagine nation provoking.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's very imaginative, but like also it's just
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: it's so doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make it.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. And it's like I get it,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: like it's one thing, but like there's not even like
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: a corpse. It's just like it's not even like it's
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: not even like angelic either. It's like, no, it's still
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: your pieces of shit, Dad, But I kind of like
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: that he's still he's the same piece of shit, same
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: piece of shit, and he's still sentenced to his bloody death.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: But we're also getting to be helpful. We're also getting
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: a lot, a lot, a lot of people surviving at
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the end.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: A lot very lurified survivors that don't matter because, dude,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: they're not the main character, the character. That's why there's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: a whole movie, dude that's called Jason Goes to Hell.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: It's not even Friday the thirteenth, it's Jason goes to Hell.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: By the way, he's fucking Danty Malroon, fucking ambulance people. Oh,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Nick's fine Nick Nick. Yeah, Nick's fine,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: but not just Nick's fine. This guy who's clearly some
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: young crew member, the mullet. The mullet guy was clearly
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to show his He was like like
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: turning his neck down because it was like, she's too
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: young to be this is too ashamed to be a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: very paraotic Yeah, dude. He was very aware of the camera.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So like Tita and Nick survive, which I'm like, cool,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Like it's kind of nice because Danie maul roons don't matter, dude,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: but it's kind of also nice to be like, you
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, sometimes people can survive.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they can survive, can Yeah, Like like if you
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: have amazing superpowers and can stop Jason enough to get away,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: you can survive.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: But it was cool that her superpower was her femininity,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: her burgeoning new fan femininity of like showing the parallel
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: of her like going through this difficult traumatic time from
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: her past, but like subsequently it happening with her like
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: burgeoning sexuality and her like desire for this guy Nick,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: whom she does actively pursue. It does feel almost in
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: a way like the like femininity aspect of this movie
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: wins out at the end, you know what I mean.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I see as much
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: of that in the movie, the symbolism, Yeah, just because
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid and
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I need more overt symbolism. You can read that into it, though,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: can't you. I mean, but I can read anything into anything. No,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: But like these movies are about let me make the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: case for it. These movies are about that to do it.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: We're at the end of the movie, Dude, you haven't
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: made a good case, so.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: We're you know, we've seen so many of these movies.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: They they have always this like salacious tone of like
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: what happens to women when they're sexual?
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And she wasn't and then
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: she gets to be sexual because she beat the man.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: She yeah, claimed her own femininity. She did she did?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Or no, she she just claimed her own.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Like individuality man away from the patriarchy that's trying to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: kill her.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Dude, Jason takes Manhattan shot Vancouver. I'm very very Manhattan Vancouver.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, dude, I can't wait to see Manhattan. Dude,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Jason take Manhattan I mean
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: they were shooting for They shot three million dollars in Vancouver.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Oh rarely the budget is five point one to five
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: point five. Case they got a bigger budget. Yeah, slightly
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: bigger budget, dude, slightly bigger budget. I mean that's double
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: the budget of last one.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: So it was a success, dude. I mean we'll get
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: to Jason Takes Manhattan.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Jesson. Well, what's really exciting about Jason Takes Manhattan is
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: it's in the truest form the he oh he's made
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: character he's going to Manhattan, Like what does that even mean?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Why do they think that? Why did they think that
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: was a good idea? Like? Who thought of that? That's
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: outrageous too, Like that's some bold moves that I really
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: enjoy because it's like it might be dumb, it might
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: be fucking stupid, but telekinesis you could be like, Okay,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: well magic, he's a zombie whatever. But like going to
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: a different place, like just like traveling the main villain
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: of your movie into a different spot just feels so foreign.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see how that translates to his motivations because
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: he at that point, he won't be defending territory, so
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: we can't claim a territoriality as a motivation for Jason's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: killings because it's still very mysteriou yeah, like his motivations
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: are still pretty mysterious, Like we do only get a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: few contact clues. And I think it's interesting to try
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: and take it apart because all of the movies you
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: can see even in the credits of this movie, all
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: of the movies do go to great lengths to like
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: laurify and back laurify to be like, hey, this was
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: from part four part you know, like they list all
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: of the different characters and where they're from.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: It's true. I recently was watching these those guys read
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: letter media guys, uh and Jay was like, oh, man,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Like they were talking about beatle Juice, Beetle Juice, and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they took like one joke from
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: the Beetlejuice movie and kind of made like a whole
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: new character out of it. It was just kind of
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: like a throwaway line. But it's like, man, that's not
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: happening forever. That's literally been happening forever. It's like you
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: take a thing and that you're like, oh, that could
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: be a fucking good idea. I'll just connect it in
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: this way? Why not you know what I mean? Who
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: cares if it's a red con? Who cares if it's
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: like I think that people hate the way it's done
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: now because it's like because just like the idea of
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: legacy sequels is just way more cynical. I think, you
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: know what, I used to feel that way much much
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: more until I, like I started interacting with the fandom
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: of these series is and I think the cynicism has
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: just always been there. That's true.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: It's everyone always has something to say about it.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, you know, we joked earlier Jaw's nineteen,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: like haha. But like sequels have been like there's been
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: a lot like Jason the thirteen fucking sequels. People love
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: hearing the continuation of a story, dude. They love it.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: It's fun, it's interesting. We want to know what happens next.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I just been like, like, even in the
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: sense that the notion that this is something new or
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: or that like backlorifying or taking ideas from eight, this
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: is exactly seven in the eight Yeah, exactly. So it's
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: just kind of like we're a part for the course.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: It's just I think, what what makes people sad, and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: I think what people are noticing is actually just like
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: the death more the death of cinema being the like
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: not even like oh it's dying and we're never going
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: to get movies again. It's just that it's not the
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: most changing popular thing anymore. And it's like I'd rather watch,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: you know, fourteen hours of a stream than than two
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: hours of a movie. It's just there's there's no time
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: for it. And the way that like the way that
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: media consumes are our live every day, like how we
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: how we have to interact with it. It's it's like
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: there's a limited capacity. Yeah, oh yeah, person.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Don't have time. There's too many things to watch. Everything's good,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like so like it's like
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: now you have to just like you have to lean
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: into like niches, you have to lean into like what
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: you care about totally because there's no time for anything else.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: There's like before I could get people like.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Who might be interested to check out something that I do.
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  Speaker 2: Now it has to be so like hyper focused and
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  Speaker 2: like that that I'll just I know that someone's gonna
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  Speaker 2: like this, yeah, and I know exactly who will like this,
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  Speaker 2: and that's.
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  Speaker 1: It, Yeah, exactly exactly. You know, what would you give
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  Speaker 1: it out of Jason's?
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  Speaker 2: How many Jason's would I give it? I mean, dude,
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  Speaker 2: I can tell why Caine Hodter is solorified. Is he
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  Speaker 2: the best Jason?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: He is the best Jason. The thing about Jason that's
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: cool is that Jason keeps getting better. It always keeps
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  Speaker 2: getting better a little bit and in interesting ways. It
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  Speaker 2: always changes and evolves enough to keep us like interested
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  Speaker 2: while maintaining the same basic idea, the same Jason idea.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think I would. I would personally, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would number one say that it's not just the
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  Speaker 1: best Jason in totality. Uh, and it comes at the
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  Speaker 1: like it comes at at like the feet of legends
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  Speaker 1: before him. But he is definitely the or the shoulders
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: of legends. But whatever that phrase is, he's awesome. He knows,
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  Speaker 1: he knows body. He did fucking amazing moves. Dude, through
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  Speaker 1: the window.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm telling you on the playground, on
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  Speaker 2: the playground as kids, it was no Kine Hotter is
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  Speaker 2: the fucking best Jason. And that was the talk on town. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: I remember Kane Hotter. I don't know any of their
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: other names. So laurified kine Hotter. He knows who Jason
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: is at the what what do you said? The Titans
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: that came before him. Like, the thing is the reason
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Jason's so cool is that every Jason has been cool.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Every Jason has been cool.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's never been there's never been a Jason where
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: you're like, when you're like, when you think back to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: baghead Jason, you're like, whoa dude?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Baghead Jason. Yeah, And that's also something that that Freddy
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: really never got. He never had never had evolution. He
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: did kind of where it's like sorry, yeah, oh but
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: he's imaginary. But Freddy takes multiple forms in like the seventh.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: One, Well, he he got to be like cool puppets
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: and weird ship, Like he got to be pizza parts
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: and stuff, but like that's not really like that burn
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: He got to just be Burno.
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  Speaker 1: You know. He did, he did, but he also he
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: also didn't get to you're right, he did get to
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: be those things, but that wasn't like a character growth.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: That was more like I'm having a good time. That's Jason.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: It's been like like a story. Yeah, he's just like
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: we'll have to do this now.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: And we've been We've seen Jason like through the years,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: but like on we've never stopped seeing him from where
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: his story continued for us.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. So we've been on a long
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: journey with Now now you'll get introduced to today doey
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Den Bella, Jason. Also, what I've noticed is the the
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: what's it called parallels between all the other like villains
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: where it's like, I don't know, fucking voodoo or whatever, fine,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: like like what to do jun wo doom, it's Willie dude.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: What would you give it out of the Uh? Well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I would give it. I would give it ten cane
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: hatters out of Jason's. I would give it ten to
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: ten Jason's and I would give it an eight. I
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: liked it a lot. Yeah, it was the same. It
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: made me feel the same way I did about the
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: last one. Basically it hit on so many like perfect
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: little kid.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Like just notes that, Like I watched it with Ona.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: We were both just like having a great time watching
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: it because like the thing is that's cool about like
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: continuing and essentially making the same movie because this one
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: is very much a return to form in a way too,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: because it's like it takes what's good about like having
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: a Tommy esque character, but like just includes it as
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: a part of Jason's story rather than being like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: now we're focusing on a different guy and like there's
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  Speaker 2: we don't care that much about that.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: That's true. This one did what I kind of wanted
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: the the like Tommy's arc to be in the Last
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: the before a Last Tommy movie, where it was like,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: why is Tommy just like a side character in his
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: own movie? Like that's so weird.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: You know what, We've had three movies with Tommy. That's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: We don't need any more Tommy, like the factor. It's
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: funny that he doesn't ever come back. Then he's still alive,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: but we don't need any more Tommy.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Ever. It would be a it would have been kind
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: of a neat thing if they brought back a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of the alive characters.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: They were supposed to bring back Tommy in in Freddy
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Versus Jason, that's part of the story.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: That it was supposed to be. That would that would
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: have been cool.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: It would have been cool, but that that's apparently what
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: became Ash versus Freddy versus Jason. That would have been well,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Did I think they made something like that.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they made anything that was
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: like anything beyond like a concept that would have been bad. Though,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's in the same lore to me,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: like maybe maybe when you think about it, yeah, I
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: mean like watching these ones, I mean, do you think
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: that Pinhead could be in the same universe as this? No,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Pinnetta is too new metal. I can't wait the mind
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: for I can't wait to talk about those movies, dude,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: my track. I want to talk about those wees. Are
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: you ready? Are you ready? We should? We should?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: We could do okay, so I would give it an
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: eight too. What are your expectations for the rest of
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: these movies?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Like, I've not really thought past this point, but it
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: feels like this is a bit of a turning point
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: for the series.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: Because Jason, Jason takes Manhattan, Jason goes to Hell. I'm
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: excited for Jason goes to Hell because that I think
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: that's where Freddy goes grabs the mask. I think they Laura,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: I've ready, but I'm very excited for It's funny Jason,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: It's amazing, excited, It's amazing how much the fans, and
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: like the writers along with the fans, each stoked each
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: other's love of like laurifying these two characters beloved horror
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: characters of Freddie and Jason and tried to like make
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: the realities like similar to each other. Do you know
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah? I think that's really cool and
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: really interesting.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: Because this is a post Freddy three world. Freddy three
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: came out in eighty seven.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I am personally really horrified by fans and fandom.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: I don't like them, so any sort of like pushing
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: and pulling. I really like, I really think the writers
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: do well in that situation because it's like, okay, like
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: I've got some I've got some fire under my ass
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But like, man, I just I don't like fans. Anyway,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: we got we got some feedback from from the some
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: of the fans, friend of the friend of the show,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: the fandom of Thirsty for More dude, And some of
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: the feedback was whoa came out, came at fans hard, Yeah, dude,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: it's I am. I Am. It's just like I think
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: that I just I need to get off social media
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: and specifically Twitter bad. It's such a bad place that
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: it's the bad place. It's such a bad place. No,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: the bad place is still a cham but for normal people,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: because Twitter is still like a thing. Is it a
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: normal society? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, my tweet? What
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: don't you mean my z? Don't you mean my thread? Anyway?
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: More presents on Instagram at More Thirsty on Twitter, and guys,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: please join us on Patreon where we do threads. Yeah.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I don't like it. I mean it's it's weird because well,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: see you next week. We don't have to keep talking
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: about it, but like, yeah, we can continue. It's just
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: like they're like, you know, they're