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BOMBS AWAY: Late homers by Denzer Guzman, Zach Neto fuel Angels comeback · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Well, hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: I am Mike di Giovanna, former RelA Times Baseball writer
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: and host of the show, joined by my regular co
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: host Mark Trumbo, the former Angels slugger. If you're wondering
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: what all these pine trees are in the background, I
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: am coming to you from Marietta, Georgia, where I'm visiting
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: my grandkids for the weekend. So we'll get right into
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: the action with the Angels. You know, for all their
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: shortcomings and struggles this year, and we've gone over it
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: a lot on this podcast, the one thing the Angel
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: seem to have an abundance of this season is resilience.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: They've bounced back from some brutal losses this season, none
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: more devastating than Friday Night, when they blew a seven run,
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: sixth inning lead in Last City Athletics twelve eleven and
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: ten innings. But they shook that off with seven nothing
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: wins Saturday Night and a nine seven comeback win on
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: Sunday that featured Zach Neddo's tie breaking two run homer
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: in the top of the ninth. Neto actually struck out
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: twice Sunday, giving him an al leading one hundred and
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: twelve strikeouts on the season and putting him on pace
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: for two hundred and twenty nine strikeouts that would break
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: Mark Reynolds major League single season record of two hundred
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: and twenty three k's set in two.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: Thousand and nine.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: But Netto got a hold of an Elvis Alvarado ninety
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: seven miles per hour fastball and lined it over the
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: left field wall for a nine to seven lead on Sunday,
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: one inning after Denzer Guzman tied at seven to seven
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  Speaker 1: with a three run homer, giving the rookie three homers
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: in three straight games. Mark, what'd you think of the
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: way the Angels bounce back this weekend?
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  Speaker 3: Light that baby up using using the power and the
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: yellow rubber doll na appearance that is propelling the club
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: to come back a good win today against a Sacramento
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: Athletics team. There's the starting pitcher today for them. Numbers
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: were not great. It was a very lop sted matchup
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  Speaker 3: from the start, but they hung in there pretty well. Fortunately,
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: Debt Mers, who didn't have his a stuff, was able
• 2:21
  Speaker 3: to give some length. I thought that this could be
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: one where he was out pretty early, but he did
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: hang in there gave his team a chance to win
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: and come back, and that they did.
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've I mean, it does seem it seems like
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: a show doesn't go by this season where we haven't
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: criticized Zach Netto for something.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: We've gotten on them pretty hard.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: Obviously a huge hit today, but these strikeouts are still
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: an issue with him. How do you explain the fact
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: this kid's got seventeen homers. You know, his ops is
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: in the mid seven hundreds. He had a great year
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: last year. His defense has been a little spot this year,
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: but pretty good of late.
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: How do you explain all these strikeouts? Mark?
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: And is there anything he can do to cut down
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: on him? Because remember he's still a leadoff hitter for
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: this team.
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: Take today days start with Jack Perkins. He's a guy
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: that has a mid nineties fastball like the rest of them,
• 3:19
  Speaker 3: But he did look at the scouting reports like I
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: would assume most every team does. I'm assuming the Orioles
• 3:26
  Speaker 3: will coming up next, first pitch of the game, slider
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: outside of the strike zone, big swing. I'm surprised. I
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: guess they've hinted at on the broadcast a little bit,
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: but it's glaringly obvious. It's the first pitch of the ballgame.
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: The approach is to do exactly what he did there
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: at the end, and he went from having a game
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: that was relatively mundane, actually not very good with the bat,
• 3:52
  Speaker 3: to being the hero and you know, getting to do
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: the interviews and everything else. I think he's dead set
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: on putting forty in the seats. I don't think he
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: cares how he gets there. The batting average, I don't
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: feel like is important to him. And these are not critiques.
• 4:08
  Speaker 3: It's just quite obvious what it looks like.
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, another player who's really had a great series has
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: been hitting really well of late, as Donovan Walton hit
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: a three run homer in the second inning on Sunday,
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: his sixth straight game of an extra base hit. This guy,
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: they brought him up about a month ago. He's now
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: hitting three forty three with a nine to twenty seven OPS,
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: three homers, six doubles and eleven RBIs and twenty three games.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: Remember they brought him up as a third baseman, but
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: it sure seems like Guzman has locked down that position
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  Speaker 1: for now. Walton also plays second base, made a couple
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: of pretty good plays over the weekend. You have Peaza
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: and Grissom, who can play second base, trouts out with
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: a hamstring injury, so that you know there's more DH spots.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: Is Donovan Walton just really muscling his way into this
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: lineup right now?
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  Speaker 2: Look at those numbers.
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: If he keeps hitting like he's hitting, I don't think
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: you can Well, they don't have to play him against
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: left handed pitching, I guess, but yeah, probably more than
• 5:11
  Speaker 3: holding his own. Unfortunately, I think Vaughan Grissom, the bat's
• 5:14
  Speaker 3: going a bit cold. He was dealing with the injury.
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: He's kind of getting to be the odd man out.
• 5:20
  Speaker 3: I assume he'll platoon somewhat with Sean Awell at first base,
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  Speaker 3: but there's a lot of guys for not a lot
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  Speaker 3: of playing time. Now. Christian Moore seems to be they're
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: going to play him in the outfield. I know that
• 5:34
  Speaker 3: they were referencing Alex Gordon today and his transition, and
• 5:38
  Speaker 3: Alex Gordon played an excellent left field. I think he
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: had more aptitude for probably playing the outfield than the infield.
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: I played against him for a long time. I'm not
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: sure I quite see that with Christian Moore. Yet he
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: did get a hit to salvage it, but he has
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: been flailing at the same pitch as the leadoff hitter does,
• 5:57
  Speaker 3: and a lot of them, so you know, it's really
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: hard to judge the Salt Lake numbers. I've played there.
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: It was hit her friendly, but it's it's become absolutely goofy,
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: hit her friendly.
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  Speaker 2: Now. I don't know what to.
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: Make of it, very distorted with Maybe it's just the
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: social media too. Looks like if you follow their page,
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: they hit six seven home runs a night and everyone's
• 6:19
  Speaker 3: got an ops a thousand or above. So I know
• 6:22
  Speaker 3: it's not reality, but you get very excited about these
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: guys and then sometimes when they come up there are
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: growing pains and I know the broadcaster today said Christian
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: Moore needs a long leash. Now it's one of the
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: first times I've really heard, you know, someone leaning into that.
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: You know, a player in particular, first rounder, counting on
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: them for a lot, and you're playing them out of position,
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: so a little bit interesting or a lot interesting. I
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: guess there's a plan there, and maybe it's they seem
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: as the future left fielder.
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: Well, looking at that play, I think it was Friday
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: night in the first inning when he turned Nick Kurtz.
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: It should have been a fly ball out into a double.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: I think there is a Thursday night. I'm mixing up
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: my nights here, but it started a five run inning.
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he looks a little rough out there in
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: left field. I think he caught routine her. Yeah, that
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: same game he over ran one and was charged with
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: an error. So there's two players in.
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: One game, and it looks like there's gonna Adam Eaton's
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: gonna need to be doing a lot of work with
• 7:24
  Speaker 3: him out there to for He was out of position,
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: which I think the broadcasters mentioned too late in the
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: game today, very deep in a situation where he should
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: have been more shallow, ready to try and throw the
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: runner out at the plate, and he was, I guess,
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: going off the I don't know what he was going
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  Speaker 3: off with, maybe the card in the back pocket or
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: the burnt spot in the outfield from where everyone stands
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  Speaker 3: in normal depth, which is deep in that ballpark with
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: the way it flies.
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  Speaker 1: Well good uh More actually made some pretty nice defensive
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: plays at second base today, which as we know, is
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: his natural position. What are we you moved from the
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: infield the outfield. I know it wasn't easy for you,
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: is there a little bit of a danger and maybe
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: exposing this kid to a position that you know, a
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: lot of people think left field or will hide the
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: guy there, will hide our worse endfielder there, or whatever.
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: It's not that difficult of a transition, but as you know,
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: it's not easy. Is this kind of a risking this
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: kid and his confidence to stick him out in left
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  Speaker 1: field even on a regular basis when he's just really
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: not you know, has very little experience.
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  Speaker 2: Of the position.
• 8:31
  Speaker 3: Potentially, I think that it creates a lot of stress
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: for the player individually moving around day to day. Some
• 8:39
  Speaker 3: guys are really gifted in that regard and can pretty seamlessly,
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: you can put them anywhere and it doesn't affect their hitting.
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: Some other guys that creates a lot more stress because
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: they know that there's a potential for well embarrassment in
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: some cases, and that can really affect the guy's mental
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: performance and you know, ends up the statistics stuff or
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: because of it. So you got to gauge. It's an
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: individual thing. It's no one size fits all, and I
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: guess it's kind of to be determined in this case
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  Speaker 3: with Christian.
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  Speaker 1: Moore, Yeah, he does seem to have a sense of
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: humor about it. I think he had caught a routine
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: fly ball in the eighth.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: Or ninth inning today.
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: I think it was a ninth and you know, gave
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: a smile and a thumbs up, so I'll give him
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: credit for that. I'm not crazy about the move, you know.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: It just seems like and we saw his first inting
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: out there. I mean, when you're playing out a position
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: and you have so little experience, the ball just will
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: find a way. And sure enough, Nick Kurtz his hits
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: a fly ball, he gets turned around on it and
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: turns it into a double. Let's take a quick break
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo Territory with Mark Trumbo and
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: Mike Dgivona. Well, before we get back into more of
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: the weekends series against the Athletics, let's go to a
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: quick report that we got over the weekend from Bob
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: Nightingale off USA Today, who rights the Angels plan to
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: retain their key players at the deadline.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: With owner Arto Moreno not wanting.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: To unload starters read Detmers and Jose Soriano or outfielder
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: Chill at Dell Detmer's and Sriano a under team control
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: through twenty twenty eight, while a Dell is eligible for
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: free agency after the twenty twenty seventh season. The Angels
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: could change their mind, of course, and package Debtmers into
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: a deal that would, you know, be pretty attractive. As
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Bob writes, But I don't know Mark. I saw this,
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: and I know Bob. I worked with him for many years,
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: and he seems to write things this time of year
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: that are more sound, more definitive than they actually are.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of things can change between now
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: and you know. I guess August third is a trade
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: deadline this year.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: Kind of weird.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: But did this one kind of catch you a little
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: by surprise? Bob's in the No, Bob, Bob's connected. The
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: way it was written, it seemed, yes, like you said,
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: very definitive. This was a hard no, no, thank you not.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: You know, we're not not looking to trade these guys,
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: We're not. Don't bother calling. That's probably not the reality.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: I think that they will at least answer the phone,
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: or should, but there may be no appetite for doing anything.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: So if that's the case, I guess you would assume
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: that I mean, I said it in jest, but there's
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: no reason that they might not look to add And
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: the Chapman I was referring to for the Reddit users
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: was a rolled As Chapman, not Matt Chapman. Yeah, Matt
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: Chapman wouldn't be bad either, right, expensive Yeah, And you
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: wouldn't at this point to want to want to block
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: dancer Gulzman Guzman from playing every day.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the picture before we talk about
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Saturday night's pitcher. One last thought on Sunday's game, and
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: speaking of resilience, th ree Debtmers really rough first inning
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: for he walked three, give up four runs. I think
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: he walked three batters total in thirty three innings of
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: his previous five starts. Had a one point three suping
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Mera in those games is really dominant. Really struggled, but
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: he ends up going six innings, allowing one more run,
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: and he did keep the Angels in the game.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: What did you think of Detmers today?
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: Gutsy performance from the outset. It could have really really spiraled.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: It wasn't his best game by any means, but it
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: was one in the past that he probably actually would
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: have would you got knocked out maybe three and a
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: third something like that could have been sixty seven runs,
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: So that showed that he has taken a step in
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: the right direction. He seemed to be pulling his fastball
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: a bit. The slider. I'm sure it's not going to
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: grade out anywhere near as good as it has in
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: recent history.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: And I didn't see too many of the.
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: Bigger over an chor balls really landing, So I'd say
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: he probably had his d stuff today, if you want
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: to grate it in those terms. But he has matured
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: enough and has enough experience that he, you know, kind
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: of remained calm under fire, got the outset he needed
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: to know, real big mistakes, and the Angels, you know,
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: came back and won this ball game.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about Saturday night Walbert Urania again. Interesting
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: start to this game. Before first pitch home played, umpire
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Dan Blino asks Urania to remove his Dominican Republic headband,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: which I guess it had a bit of wite on it,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: showing felt it was going to be a distraction to
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: the batters.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: It sort of.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Shook him and seemed to phase him a little bit.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: The he's loaded the bases, but he got out of
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: that jam and ends up throwing five scoreless innings, gives
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: up four hits first start with zero walks, which is
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: a real improvement for him, six strikeouts. This kid, in
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: his last ten games has a one point nine to
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: three ERA, and he has gone five innings or more
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: and allowed three earned runs or less in ten straight games. Now,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: that's the longest such such streak since Ron Romantic, and
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I remember Ron back in nineteen eighty four, he won
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: ten games with five innings or more and three ear
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: runs or less. So, you know, I'm not sure who
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: the ace of this team is, whether it's det Meers
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: or Urania, but this kid just continues to impress. He's
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: twenty two years old, and God, where are the Angels
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: be without this guy?
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Right now?
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I think they'd be worse off. Yeah, I think that
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: there's a mosquito on your forehead.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I am in Georgia.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: We're looking out for everyone's health and wellness. I think
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: that Urania. Yeah, he's been a huge boost. He's a
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: guy that you expect to win when he's out there.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you cannot kind of take that minds.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: He's kind of mowing through these these lineups, good lineups,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: bad lineups, it doesn't matter. I don't It's like he's
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: indifferent to who's up there as well, which is very
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: very rare, and I really do mean that. I don't
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: think he gives if it's Nick Kurtz or you know,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Joe nobody, He's going to come at him with the
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: same stuff. He trusts his stuff. He did throw more
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: change ups this last outing less sliders in his fastball
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: as sinker actually wasn't quite as good as it normally is,
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: but his changeup was better a lot more to left
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: handed hitters, so, you know, another another solid performance. There's
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: really no reason to think he's going to slow down.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I do think this is sustainable to a degree. That's
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: similar Ishue.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: What I love about this kid, and the reason I
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: agree that it's sustainable is he throws ninety nine touches
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: one hundred. A lot of young guys would fall in
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: love with a fastball like that, But he pitches he
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: he has. You know, the sweeper is still a work
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: in progress, but he's made some movements on it. His
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: change up is an outstanding pitch, and you know he's
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: got the four seemer. He doesn't use it that much.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: But that's for pretty you know, three plus pitches if
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: he can locate the four seemer, the sinker and the changeup.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: He threw a sinker, I think to Max Munsey the
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: other on Saturday night, the thing looked like it started
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: out in the middle of the plate and by the
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: time Wilson swung through it and almost hit him. So
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the movement on that pitch is pretty pretty extreme. So yeah,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I think this kid is uh, he's here for today,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: here to stay. It's just so ironic. Nobody had this
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: kid pegged in the Angel's rotation. We mentioned him briefly
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: in spring training about you know, his stuff plus metric
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: was a little eye popping at the time. But you know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: as Joe Madden would say, bully on him and bully
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: on the Angels for sticking with his kid, giving him
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: a chance. And he's proved more so, he's proved that
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: he's ready, definitely, So let's get for the painful, painful
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: part of the weekend. Friday Night, the Angels built an
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: eleven four lead in the sixth inning on the strength
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: of Guzman's two run homer, Jose Serie with a three
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: run shot, Nedo with a solo homer, Logan hop O
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Hoppy with a three run homer, and then it.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Just all fell apart from there.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: The A's rallied with Zach you off broken bat RBI
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: single on the sixth. Jacob Wilson hit a two run
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: homer in the seventh off Mitch Ferris that made it
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: eleven to seven once he reared. The two run homer
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: off sil Seth and the eighth made it eleven nine,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: and Jonah him with a pinch hit two run homer
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: off Sam Bachmann, just a ninety nine mile an hour
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: sinker that just seemed to tail right into Jonah's barrel
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and he squared it up for an eleven eleven tie.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: The Angels still had a chance, of course, in extra innings.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Christian Moore got the third.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: With one out.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: O'happy hits a chopper and it just what did you
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: see on that play, Mark is It just didn't seem
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: like more got much of a secondary lead or a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: very good jump and he ends up getting thrown out
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: at home and then Samon to Tara Walks Nick Kurtz
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: for the winning run in the bottom of the tenth.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Was that was he a little flat footed on that
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: play at third.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I think he was.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: It seemed like the jump wasn't great. There may have
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: been some element of a little bit shorter lead to
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: begin with and not get doubled up on online drive,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't enough to allow him to get home safely.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: And if it's the contact play that I was used
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to and that we ran, it was, I mean, you
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: were extremely aggressive with it with your secondary lead and
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: immediately almost you know it was really you were the
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: judging part of it was on the swing, so there
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: was a chance that you could get back picked if
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: done correctly, if the guy were to whiff. But the
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: intention there is once you know, if the ball is hit,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: especially on the ground, you were scoring. In this instance,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: it did really materialize that way. And look at the
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Sacramento a I mean that there they have a high
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: powered offense, they play nice defense, and you just they're
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: pitching is just so bad that it really drags them down.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: And I guess you could say the same about the
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Angels at times, but I think the A's have more guys. Well,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: the Angel small ball is more similar, But like yell
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Off and and Wilson and some of these guys, I
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: mean they can they can hit. They put a lot
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: of pressure on you. They take nice at bats. McNeil
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: and Kurtz that he finally got into one. He had
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: had kind of a poor series, uh you know for
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: the most part, a couple of walks, a big walk
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: to walk off walk. But he finally got into one.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: So it was a two similarsh teams going head to head.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they really bottled up. The Angels did a good
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: job bottling up Kurts for most of the week until
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: he almost put a hole on the batter's side with
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: that homer.
• 20:55
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Halo Territory with Mark Trumbo and Mike Dgivano.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Let's quick go over Thursday Night's game real quick. Ryan
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Johnson called up again, is it five runs in the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: first inning? And as we said, that inning did start
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: with that misplay by Christian Moore in left field. Langlers
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: follows out with a three run homer, so to Strim
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: with a solo shot, and the Angels couldn't mount any
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: kind of offense against A's left hander Gauge Jump, who
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: through seven shutout innings. But you know, to Ryan Johnson's credit,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: he did throw another four scoreless innings. Mark, I'm not
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: sure what the Angels are going to do with that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: spot in the rotation. Would you give Ryan Johnson another start?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Did he earn another start with the way he bounced
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: back from that first inning?
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Didn't you mention Gage Jump in our Ale West preview?
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I believe that was you, Mark, all Right, I don't
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: know what they're going to do.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know what they're going to do. I think.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Ryan Johnson has a lot of promise at at times,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: and he was able to settle down. He's unfortunately it
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: has been innings like that that get away from him
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: and are too big to overcome. I think that again,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I mean he's I guess they're committed to having him
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: as a starter. My personal opinion is, I guess it
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: does make some sense to give it a shot. But
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: as far as you know his career trajectory, Double A,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Big leagues, bouncing around a lot. I'm not sure how
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: they view the system any longer. We've covered it before,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: but it seems like you're just as liable to get
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: called up from Double A as you are from Triple A.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: And the minor leagues themselves could be undergoing, you know,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: more reshuffling with some of these proposals wiping out the
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: high school draft. We can cover some of those things
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: that are you know, the CBA. We haven't leaned into
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: it yet, but there's a lot to unpack and we
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: will try at some point. But Ryan Johnson I think
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: would be the guy I would I would pick. Caden
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Dana is injured again, I believe got hit by a comebacker.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Alde Garry. I don't know, still working on it and
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: class and I hope for But you look down at
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: the numbers and the e RA either starts with a
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: six or seven.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Hard to say it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, before the series even started up in West Sacramento,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Angels got some bad news when Mike Trout was placed
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: on the injured list because of a right hamstring strain.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: He doesn't think it's serious, which is great, but he
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: did raise some questions.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: With when and how he was hurt.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: The Angels were leading eight to one against Arizona in
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Arizona on Wednesday, and he's still in the game in
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the eighth inning. I believe when he's trying to leg
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: out a hit and ends up hurting himself. And here's
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: what Kurt Suzuki had to say about that. That's how
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Mike is wired. Would I want to have him throttled
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: it down? Of course I would in hindsight. But at
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the same time, that's what makes Mike Mike. He plays
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the game hard, he sets the example for everybody, and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: he's a good role model.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: For the youth out there.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Well, we haven't agreed with a lot of what Kurt
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Zzuki has said this year. I'm not sure I had
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: as big a problem as some people did with him
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: remain in that game. The fact that Trout, you know
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you're not going to get him to not hustles, just
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: not in his DNA. We've talked about how it should
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: be rubbing off on more young players, except especially a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: young shortstop we've mentioned often on the show, Mark, would
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you think about, you know, Mike, Mike Trout in the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: way he's been used, And it should also be noted,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I think he's played in one hundred No. Seventy four
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the team's first seventy five games, sixty three starts in center,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: eleven at DH, so he basically only there was only
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: one game that he didn't play in. What do you think, Mark,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Could they have rested this kid because kid he's thirty five?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Could they rested Trout a little or paced them a
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: little better this year?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I think there's two different opinions. I really don't want
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: to get cross or caught in the crossfire.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: It's too bad.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I know the broadcast kind of a strong monologue the
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: other night in defense of and I don't have anything
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: to say against that the reality. And I guess it
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: was eight to one facing Rodriguez, one of the better
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: pitchers in baseball. The whole bench was available at that point.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: I believe what was it the fifth sixth inning that
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: that occurred, or maybe even a little later. Okay, so
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: let's says it's later the seventh inning or whatever. I
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: reasonably you could say that hindsight is what it is. Unfortunate.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I think it's it's relatively minor. I know that he
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: at least was also Bob Nightingale. I don't know about
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: the home Run Derby speculation where Mike suggested he has
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: some openness opening it.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Whatever the word is, he's willing.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: To possibly consider doing it, and that's a first. He's
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: always had no interest in it, but playing in front
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: of the hometown crowd, maybe he might reconsider, which to
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: me means that he's probably feeling pretty good relatively minor
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: injury or very minor injury. Hopefully it takes the minimum
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: ten to fourteen days and he's back out there playing
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: every day in center field and maybe hitting in the
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: home run Derby.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bob said he would be willing to consider it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: The Home Run Derby has always been sort of a
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: running joke amongly Riders. It's like, you know that stretching
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: what was it, eight nine? I forget how many he
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: was in the All Star Game every year, and every
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: time we approach him about the derby, he's like, oh, man,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin my swing. I don't want
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to mess up my swing. And back then he was
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: winning MVP Awards and he probably didn't want to mess
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: up his swing. Now he's Mark Georgian. The end of it, Yeah,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the end of the career games in Philly, which is,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you know, forty five minutes north of Millville, New Jersey
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: home with a Millville media or Mike Trout. That would
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: be a pretty huge get for the All Star Game.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And I think, you know Trout, how do you realistically
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: he may not make too many more All Star Games.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: This could be his last chance. He has always maintained
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that he will do it once. I think this is
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the year he does it. But you know he has
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: been very prone to injury over the last five years. Mark,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you did that? Did you do it once?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Or twice? I can't remember twice? Twice? Sorry? Man, you
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: know I'm getting old.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Takes a toll on your body, even you know, all
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: your entire body. I do think the new format this
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: year where they are limiting swings, may cut down on
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the wear and tear. But what do you think if
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Trout's still going good at the break, would you think
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: it's a good idea for him to participate in the Derby.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: It's a hard one.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I've did both formats and I can say, the more
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: recent one with the clock was significantly harder. Good riddance.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Not a heck of a lot of work for what really,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I guess it's for the fans. I think the Homer
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Derby itself's gotten a little long in the tooth, and
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: maybe people have been saying that for a long time
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: him now decades. But it's something that is going to
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: take place, And if Mike did say that he'd like
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: to do it once and experience what it's like, I
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: think that what better.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Time than now. He's one interesting thing.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: He's not a guy that hits on the field a ton,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I don't believe, and a lot of guys don't, so
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: maybe that matters very little. But I can only speak
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: for myself. I hit VP on the field as often
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: as humanly possible, and so I felt like it was,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: you know, very similar to what I was always doing.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: If you're used to not preparing that way, it could
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: be a little bit different. But I know the fans
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: would go nuts if he chose to. I think he'd
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: put on a show. But if the health is somewhat
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: in question, you know, I think he should take care
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: of his body first.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to close a show with a note that
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: was buried at the end of a Angels report. I think
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it was Friday or Saturday, and the Orange County Redshow
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: was written by a freelancer because the paper did not
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: send Jeff Fletcher on this trip and it was involving
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: our favorite third baseman on Mankata. Kurt Suzuki was unsure
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a third baseman on Mankata, who has knee inflammation, had
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: undergone his surgery yet. But that is still the plan, marn't.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: This guy was put on the injury list a month
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: ago and they said probably about three at least three
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: weeks ago that he was gonna have to have surgery.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know Kurt's just playing possum
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: in this situation or what, But to me, this is
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: starting to look like one of those Anthony Rendoin situations
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: where I remember we were always asking, you know, he
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: had all these hip injuries and all these injuries. You know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: has he started a rehab? Is he coming back? Well,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: we're not sure. We're not sure, And you know, at
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: some point you just realize Anthony Rendon is never playing
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: for this team again. I personally think Eon Mankata has
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: played his last game for the Angels, Yet they still
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: gave him four million this year, not a huge chunk
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: of money, but predy big chunk of change. I think
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: we've seen the last of them. Is that what you're
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: sort of reading between the lions here?
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Mark? Yeah, that smurt tells it all.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I don't. Well, here's the thing. Jorge is nearing a rehab,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: start to rehab apparent. Yeah, where is his what is
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: his role on this team? Where do you see him?
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I mean players that are producing, you have young players,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: it seems like they're going that route, going to play
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: the young guys. And neither of those two were young.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Neither have been terribly productive. They don't play the brand
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: of baseball that the team is leaning into. I think
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: that as far as Moncatta goes, I it's unfortunate we
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: didn't know he was playing hurt all along. It appears
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: that he came into camp probably with the same injury
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: had last year.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: The team.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, he played for this team last year, So
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: if anybody knew about it and knew the severity of
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: what he was dealing with, it was this team. And
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: they signed him for formula dollars and as someone who's
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: undergone multiple knee surgeries. It's a drag and I wish
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: him well. You know, it's the kind of thing that people,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: you know, it's quick to criticize, but he's going to
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: have a lot of years post playing and there's a
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: lot of wear and tear on the body, so anything
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: like this, I, you know, I really do wish everyone well.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I hope that he's able to make a full recovery.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: He probably won't be playing much ball for the Angels
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: any longer, but he might still have some good years
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: left in him elsewhere or maybe here. I don't know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't see a place for him on
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: this team. One last thing about Sunday's game. They had
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Nick Kurtz came up earlier with a base open. They
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: chose to pitch to him. He smashed the ball into
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: right field for an RBI, and it seemed like they
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: were kind of saying, why in the world with a
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: bass opener, you pitching to this guy? And then the
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: camera panned to Kurt Suzuki. Do you think he got
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: caught with his pants down there?
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: And man, I hope not for Kurt's sake. I do
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: think they handled They got a lot of fastballs by Kurtz.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: This series a little surprising, and I think Urania struck
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: him out with a really nice changeup.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: On Saturday Night.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe there was a little bit of confidence, maybe a
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: borderline cockiness, But Nick Kurtz, as we saw it, was
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the seventh or eighth and then he just demolished that
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: baseball from Suitor. I think he hit about four thirty
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: four forty. Yeah, you don't want to push your luck
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: with Nick Kurtz.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, the.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Play is right there in front of him. I can't
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: see how kurt would get caught with his pants down.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I just think they felt like, you know, we've we've
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  Speaker 1: handled this guy pretty well.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Let's push our luck.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: And I think Kurtz is a promising looking player.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 1: Unanimous choice for Rookie of the Year last year, all
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  Speaker 1: thirty first place votes. Ooh, what we wouldn't give for
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  Speaker 1: a first basement of that kind of power. We're going
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: to close the show on that note. Hey, thanks for
• 35:00
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