Latest / The One Oʻahu Podcast with Mayor Rick Blangiardi / HPD Major Clifford Ramson on Kona Low storm preps and recovery
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- 0:15welcome to The One Oahu podcast.
- 0:17I'm your host, Brandi Higa, and this week
- 0:19we're joined by Major Clifford Ramson of the Honolulu Police Department.
- 0:22Major, thanks for making some time for me. Yeah. Thank you.
- 0:25I know that this has been a busy few weeks for you.
- 0:28We know you're a major
- 0:29in the police department, but can you tell us what your role is
- 0:32and the room that we are currently sitting in here at headquarters.
- 0:35Okay, so, I am the commander of what's called
- 0:38the Major Events Division of the whole police department.
- 0:41And in a nutshell,
- 0:41we are the emergency management and Homeland security branch of HPD.
- 0:46So most departments don't have the luxury of having a dedicated emergency branch.
- 0:49And we do.
- 0:51And our primary purpose is to handle large scale events,
- 0:54both planned or unplanned and emergencies, and provide
- 0:59command and
- 1:00control and logistical support to do those kinds of events.
- 1:04Here, right now, we're inside the Department
- 1:05Operations Center, which is, located in, in police headquarters.
- 1:09And this is pretty much the hub of police decision making.
- 1:13This is where we we run and support all large scale, events islandwide.
- 1:18And so for you, with this role, what is the last
- 1:21few weeks been for you as we face that first little system till today?
- 1:25Yeah.
- 1:25It's been, it's been interesting to say the least.
- 1:28I would say it was it was pretty much nonstop for the last.
- 1:31I'd say maybe the last three weeks, even even beyond
- 1:34going into the some of the earlier weather events leading up to this.
- 1:38Normally, we'll spool up for,
- 1:40for weather events and armies, you know, a large scale planned events.
- 1:44Something like this.
- 1:46Really tested our capabilities because it was an ongoing event involving
- 1:50what we call multiple operational periods, meaning it went on for days and days.
- 1:54And in a sense, even weeks in the recovery period that we were involved in. So.
- 1:58So it really, it was a good thing for our folks because most of the officers
- 2:02in Major Events Division, they really dedicated to the mission,
- 2:06which is basically emergency management.
- 2:08So a different kind of police work.
- 2:09So, so, for certain, we, we,
- 2:12we had a chance to really give back to the community
- 2:14because not only were we part of the response,
- 2:16but we were also part of the recovery effort in Holly even while away as well.
- 2:20So it was an excellent opportunity for our officers, our men and women,
- 2:23and so coming off of those last two storm systems,
- 2:27as of this recording Wednesday, April 8th.
- 2:30What is your message to the public
- 2:32as we prepare for more bad weather moving into Thursday?
- 2:36Well, yeah, there's a there's a lot of uncertainty coming our way.
- 2:38So we know this much, right?
- 2:39There's a there's
- 2:40there's a lot of bad weather, inclement weather potentially coming.
- 2:43So right off the bat, the best way to avoid getting into trouble
- 2:46is if you can help it avoid being out on the roads if you can.
- 2:49If you do have to drive, obviously you're going to have to, exercise safety,
- 2:53the weather conditions, you know, you don't want to be speeding,
- 2:56in that kind of weather.
- 2:58But also, if you can avoid standing through large standing
- 3:01puddles of water and things like that, that may get you stalled.
- 3:04Definitely.
- 3:05If, you're going through areas that are, that are flooding,
- 3:08or have large puddles of water, you definitely want to avoid that.
- 3:12That that would be a worst case scenario is getting stalled in, in flooding.
- 3:15But also, if you can,
- 3:19if you can avoid just adding to the congestion and,
- 3:22and the issues coming around this, it's best
- 3:24to try and sit out the storm as best you can.
- 3:26The other important thing is you really the public really is the
- 3:29the eyes and ears of, of, our first responder agencies.
- 3:33So if the public observes, conditions that that warrant reporting,
- 3:38like flooding, for instance, rising water levels in your backyard,
- 3:42if you see things, bridges that are starting to overflow,
- 3:44by all means, you'll want to report that and, and give, give precise information.
- 3:49So, so we can respond accordingly.
- 3:51But at the same time,
- 3:52we also want to preserve the 911 lines for, for important calls for service.
- 3:56So unless it is directly related to safety and
- 4:00and the storm, if it's things that can wait
- 4:02or if I think if it's things
- 4:04that can be handled more routinely later on, I would suggest not,
- 4:09calling in
- 4:10non-essential calls or non priority calls, if that can be helped.
- 4:14Yeah.
- 4:14As of this recording we also do have a handful of emergency shelters open.
- 4:18I know you were out there in the community.
- 4:19We saw you out in Wildwood.
- 4:21What kind of frequently asked questions are you getting regarding shelters?
- 4:24Where can I go? How can I keep my family, my ohana, safe?
- 4:26Yeah, I think, I know right now there are four shelters
- 4:29that have been opened up and possibly more based on the need.
- 4:31So, the big thing we're providing is 24 hour security at the shelters.
- 4:36So I think the thing with the shelters is, is that folks got to understand when you
- 4:39when you go to these shelters, you gotta kind of have resources already on hand.
- 4:44It's good to have a go bag with all the essentials that you need.
- 4:47Medication, maybe even food and snacks, bedding,
- 4:50all the things that you need to get by for a day or two, or maybe even longer.
- 4:54If you're if you're,
- 4:57you know, inside of a shelter, kind of like camping,
- 4:59I would say just having all the essentials you need, safety wise.
- 5:02Like I said, we have 24 hour security protection between, Honolulu
- 5:06PD and our partners at the, Hawaii State Department of Law Enforcement.
- 5:10We've got sheriffs
- 5:11deputies and policemen staffing all of the shelters that are open.
- 5:15And it's 24 hour protection.
- 5:16So we always have two officers,
- 5:18at every moment inside the shelters, providing that, that level of protection.
- 5:22As we talk about you mentioned cleanup and recovery efforts out in Waialua.
- 5:26We'll talk at Camp Wahiawa.
- 5:29What stood out to you?
- 5:30Because you're not just these aren't just clients.
- 5:33You're also, a resident of the area.
- 5:36What stood out to you as cleanup and recovery efforts were underway?
- 5:39I think the biggest thing it was just, you know, actually seeing the
- 5:43the scale and the scope of the damage that was sustained,
- 5:47you know, by the community.
- 5:47It's it's it's one thing to see it on cameras or
- 5:51when you're up here in the operations center and you're seeing drone feed
- 5:54or you're watching video feed, but to actually get out there
- 5:57and see the level of damage that houses sustained, I mean, literally,
- 6:00there may still very well be people living in houses that that had,
- 6:04you know, a couple of feet of mud inside their homes.
- 6:06And of course, there are houses
- 6:07that were completely destroyed, and people had to be rescued.
- 6:11So, road roadways blocked with mud and debris.
- 6:15I mean, just the scale of, of, destruction that was brought up on that community
- 6:18was was a very much an eye opener.
- 6:20And and the fact that these are members of our community,
- 6:22I can tell you that we also had members of the whole police department
- 6:25that lived in those areas.
- 6:26And,
- 6:27I know that we've we actually had officers that had to be relocated to shelters.
- 6:31So, so yeah, it's it's very it very much hits home.
- 6:35And I know for the officers and on our other partners,
- 6:38the, the firemen and guardsmen that, that are assisting us in these efforts,
- 6:42it it's really, an opportunity
- 6:44to do that's why you come in a job to do things like that.
- 6:47Right? To give back to the community.
- 6:49Most folks come on board because they want to.
- 6:52They want to do something different.
- 6:53They want to make a difference to the community.
- 6:55And I think,
- 6:56I think for the officers involved, you could see the emotion in their faces.
- 6:59This wasn't just a routine, job to them.
- 7:02They were going out and giving it their all every day
- 7:04because it's really all they could do, right
- 7:06to try to normalize in some semblance these people's lives.
- 7:09So yeah, it was, it was, it was a very, experience I'll not forget.
- 7:13a major for you. How long have you been with the department?
- 7:16I've been in police department for 32 years, and I've.
- 7:18I've. I've been around long enough.
- 7:20I've seen a lot of things come and go.
- 7:21Not to mention, I'm from Hawaii.
- 7:23I grew up on Kaua'i, so I experienced two hurricanes
- 7:25as a as a teenager or as a child and, as a young adult.
- 7:29And, and those are very devastating.
- 7:31But I have to say, seeing this here on this island, this is the biggest event
- 7:35I've seen since I've lived in Oahu.
- 7:37And definitely since I've been a member of the whole police department.
- 7:41In talking to community
- 7:42members who are doing incredible work, you know,
- 7:45Levi, Brandon Wolf, rainbow, even Joey Cadiz.
- 7:48What are some of your takeaways
- 7:50from from seeing those leaders, community leaders in action?
- 7:54You know, the the big thing I see there is, resiliency.
- 7:57And really that's that's that's that's key right now.
- 8:01in, you know, in the what I call the golden hours after an event,
- 8:06it's really the community
- 8:07that pulls together and are able to provide, that kind of,
- 8:11you know, that kind of resiliency and assistance to their neighbors
- 8:15because government always takes a little while.
- 8:16I mean, I hate to say it, but but,
- 8:18but it takes time for resources to spool up for, for government
- 8:23to, to come into the neighborhoods and, and, in assisting and all.
- 8:27And of course, we're always striving to do better and be quick read what we do.
- 8:31The ability to be able to help your neighbors
- 8:33and to rely on each other, in times of need.
- 8:35I was so impressed just seeing, how the, the neighbors or the,
- 8:39the community was able to, to spin up their resources
- 8:42and just, just get to work,
- 8:44saving lives and helping each other, I mean, is unbelievable.
- 8:47The courage that was shown and the dedication to each other.
- 8:50And you know that after this,
- 8:52the community is going to be even stronger.
- 8:53I mean, how can you not be after something like this?
- 8:55And although as, you know, as, as a, as government, we always have an
- 8:59obligation to improve our abilities and, and, and respond quicker with more,
- 9:04but just seeing that I think is a is, is motivation and inspiration.
- 9:09I think, not only for myself, but I would think for the community at large.
- 9:13I would like to see more communities, have that mindset and, and, take action
- 9:17as quick as they did.
- 9:19That was that was awesome. I was really impressed.
- 9:21Yeah.
- 9:22And so, major, what's been the hardest part for you when it comes to messaging
- 9:25and you know, carrying out the job you have to do here
- 9:28before, during and after these events.
- 9:34Well, you know,
- 9:36we do a lot of events at ND we, we were like
- 9:40I said, we're the emergency management branch of the whole police department.
- 9:42So we've been involved in everything, since the, the recent
- 9:47tsunami scare that we had, wildfires and all kinds of stuff.
- 9:51So, you know, as we, as we ramp up as, as we put it, as we, we,
- 9:56we ramp up to these events, meaning, we, we bring in resources and, we,
- 10:01we build up to where, where we're, knee deep in the event, you know, there's
- 10:05a lot of preparation that goes into that bringing in resources and whatnot.
- 10:09And at the end of the day, when it's all said
- 10:10and done, you know, we're able we're able to kind of kind of reassess
- 10:14where we are and, and even have a chance to kind of
- 10:17get together and, do what we call an after action.
- 10:21We're always reviewing what we did, where we are
- 10:23and where we're going and how we can do it better.
- 10:25And and that's really, the big thing is we're constantly reassessing
- 10:29and constantly seeing how we can improve, our services,
- 10:33how we can adapt, to the situations that are coming our way.
- 10:36And this event was a big event.
- 10:38So there's no doubt there's going to be lasting changes, to the way
- 10:42we do business.
- 10:43I'd imagine maybe even the city, going forward, all the other city agencies.
- 10:46So, yeah, this is a big event.
- 10:48Yeah.
- 10:49And like I said, we're expecting more rain this week into the weekend.
- 10:53And then after that we'll go into recovery mode again,
- 10:55which you have a huge role in.
- 10:56For those that maybe weren't sure what a community assistance center was,
- 11:00what kind of resources are there?
- 11:02And, you know, just the vibe.
- 11:04I know some people might be afraid to, you know, seek help from government.
- 11:07What is your message to them
- 11:08as we try to bounce back from this one into another recovery mode?
- 11:12So, the community assistance, centers was
- 11:16I think, the best way I would put it, it's it's basically a one stop shop
- 11:19for all the government services that, can be brought to bear
- 11:23to assist the community, facing need, like what happened in Wailua.
- 11:27So, and it's more than that, really.
- 11:29It's not just city, resources and state resources and federal resources,
- 11:34but also a lot of non-profits were brought in.
- 11:36So, it started you started relatively simple and within,
- 11:40I think within 24 hours or even 48 hours, it really grew into, a comprehensive,
- 11:46system of of agencies that are able to assist the public for the PD side.
- 11:51We our big purpose was to make sure that people were able to get there safely.
- 11:54We could facilitate the flow of traffic, parking and all that and more.
- 11:58So just to create, the conditions so that people feel safe.
- 12:01So we made sure that we, you know, we had, a pretty robust, visible presence
- 12:04at the, community outreach centers and or assistance centers and,
- 12:08just be able to people can get what they need in a timely manner and,
- 12:12and get the services they, they require from the government.
- 12:15So, yeah, these are these are really great resources.
- 12:17And there shouldn't be any hesitancy, from anybody to reach out,
- 12:22you know, everybody has as needs and, and that's why these centers are
- 12:25there is to, to assist families and people in need.
- 12:28Major, thank you so much.
- 12:30So much for your time. Is there anything that we missed?
- 12:32Oh, no, that's
- 12:33I guess at the end of the day, we'll see what happens in, in the next few days.
- 12:37And, and I'm sure, and I'm sure we'll pull through and we'll be full,
- 12:40you know, we'll be stronger for it as a community.
- 12:43Thank you so much for your time. Thank you.
- 12:45And don't forget the latest storm relief and recovery
- 12:48information is available at any time at one oahu.org.
- 12:51Next week
- 12:52we'll be back with Mayor Rick Blangiardi right here on the One Oahu Podcast.
- 12:55Mahalo for listening. Stay safe.
- 12:57And until next time. Aloha.