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Ian Furness 9/18 H1: It's the Day Before the Day Before! Greg Cosell and are we still feeling confident? · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 2: Brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light, cold as the Rockies. God,
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  Speaker 2: I love this. It's the day before the day before. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: the great Mike Williams. Miss you. Can I pat myself
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  Speaker 2: on the back?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was the one that got the sound bite with
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  Speaker 2: Mike Williams that day.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, was that you?
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  Speaker 2: It was me.
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  Speaker 3: It's the day before the day before. The day before
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  Speaker 3: the day before.
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  Speaker 2: I go, what the hell is that? I asked him,
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  Speaker 2: because Mike was a great dude. I go, what do
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  Speaker 2: you mean? He's like, oh, that's what Pete says. He goes,
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  Speaker 2: because I asked him about it. It's a preseason game,
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  Speaker 2: but he goes, oh, yeah, man. Pete's been going, it's
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  Speaker 2: the day before the day before. I go, all this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome. Every Friday when they play on a Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: We used to have that sound bite in the system.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's gone.
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  Speaker 3: I might find it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see. Mike Williams, David. Seahawks head to Arizona to
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  Speaker 2: face the Cardinals on Sunday. Drew Locke starting for Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: No update on Sam Darnold's rear end injury.
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  Speaker 1: Rear-ended.
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  Speaker 3: I just try to do a different way to describe.
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  Speaker 2: It every day. Every time I read it, I read
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  Speaker 2: it cold and I just stop myself. Also waiting on
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  Speaker 2: an update on Nicky Manwari. About 1 o'clock today we'll
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  Speaker 2: get that. Week 2, the NFL got underway last night.
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  Speaker 2: Bills beating the Lions 41-31 in Buffalo. Both quarterbacks combined
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  Speaker 2: for 9 touchdowns. Get into that in a second. greasy
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  Speaker 2: night last night. If you're in the world of gambling
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  Speaker 2: or fantasy, that was a greasy night. Mariners back in
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  Speaker 2: action tonight? Oh, they are?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Colorado, game time, 5-10. Brian Wu on the mound. Team
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  Speaker 2: is still six games behind. Houston won yesterday, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: That's bad for Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's not good.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry.
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  Speaker 3: In booze news, I've got a plan for how we
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  Speaker 3: can win.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Six games back. Texas did lose,
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  Speaker 2: but it really... One of those two teams, if they
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  Speaker 2: don't get in, more than likely is a wild card team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: College football back tonight.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: 5 Miami against Wake Forest. Jake Dickert. Am I rooting
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  Speaker 2: for Miami in a football game?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that feels real bad.
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  Speaker 2: Very dirty. 22, Houston at Texas Tech. That's the one
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  Speaker 2: that Texas Tech bitched about playing. We can't play on
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  Speaker 2: a Friday night. Yeah, you are. Welcome to the big time.
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  Speaker 4: Good luck.
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  Speaker 2: Portland State is in Oregon.
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  Speaker 3: I had to put it. That's the only reason I
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  Speaker 3: actually put in Friday football.
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  Speaker 2: So funny. Cougs are looking for the first one of
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  Speaker 2: the season. They host Duquesne tomorrow at 1230. Huskies host
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  Speaker 2: Eastern Washington at 415. Pre-game at noon. I got something
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  Speaker 2: on that, too, in a second. One more thing. Kraken
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  Speaker 2: preseason gets underway tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow. Host the Canucks at
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  Speaker 2: 6 o'clock. We'll carry that on 950. on the AM dial.
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  Speaker 1: As part of our relentless coverage of the NFL, this
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  Speaker 1: are brought to you by Washington's Beef Farmers and Ranchers. Beef,
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  Speaker 1: it's what's for dinner. It's Football Friday with Ian Furness
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  Speaker 1: on your home for the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. All right, here we go
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  Speaker 2: on a Football Friday. Ian and Ashley with you until
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  Speaker 2: 3 p.m. today. you referenced it there a second ago.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things we got in the trade, I'll
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  Speaker 2: joke that, you know, we made the trade with Anders
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  Speaker 2: and Ashley. And, you know, straight up with some cash considerations. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: not cash considerations. All I wanted is not just to
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  Speaker 2: have an Ashley here, which has been awesome this week,
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  Speaker 2: her first week. Hopefully, I haven't been too hard and
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  Speaker 2: things have been okay.
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  Speaker 4: It's been so easy. I keep thinking I'm forgetting something.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, there's got to be something I'm forgetting.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty good chance I forgot something. Okay, well, we'll find out.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not on you. It would be on me
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  Speaker 2: because I've been here. But, I said, okay, yeah, let's
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  Speaker 2: do that. Let's send Anders to the morning and away
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  Speaker 2: you go. And off, spread your wings, young Anders. Spread
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  Speaker 2: your wings.
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  Speaker 3: Fly, fly.
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  Speaker 2: I get Ashley, awesome. I just want to make sure
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  Speaker 2: one thing. Can we bring booze news with us? So
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  Speaker 2: today at 2.45, no softie. Nope. Just, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: come in here for that legally.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I do have to ask, I haven't yet
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  Speaker 4: asked Jackson if he can run the board for me
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  Speaker 4: a couple minutes early, but I think he'll be happy.
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  Speaker 2: Usually he rolls in there early anyway. Yeah. Because he
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  Speaker 2: wants to hear in case there's like a talkback that's
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  Speaker 2: making fun of him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't had the Jackson talkback.
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  Speaker 5: Yet, have we?
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  Speaker 2: We have not.
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  Speaker 3: No, if they want to join in today.
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  Speaker 2: Because there's a Furious Feltz.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: A FIFA Feltz. A Sirius Feltz.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the Jackson Feltz talkbacks.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to see one that combines all three.
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  Speaker 2: Well- If said person is listening, you know how to
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  Speaker 2: do the talkbacks, red microphone, iHeartRadio app. They're sensational. So
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  Speaker 2: usually he comes in because we replay it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure Jackson will be good with that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If not, I mean, it's booze news. We'll just take
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  Speaker 2: care of him with some booze or something.
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  Speaker 3: Right, exactly. Just bring him some booze.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you come in here. We'll do booze news
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  Speaker 2: at 245. I'm very much looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Purple Sheet is too.
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  Speaker 4: He was like, so are we drinking at 305 or what?
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  Speaker 3: I said 245.
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  Speaker 2: Is this better than at 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it is because especially like when I would
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  Speaker 3: leave here in the morning and I still had to
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  Speaker 3: go home and work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And now I get all my work done early.
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  Speaker 2: Very good.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty easy. Get a little start to happy hour.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: And you go through the news of the booze world, right?
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  Speaker 3: No, it's just whatever news we want.
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  Speaker 4: Sports.
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  Speaker 2: I have booze news.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, do you?
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  Speaker 2: Can I share a bullet point when we do that
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  Speaker 2: at 245? Yes, please.
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  Speaker 3: I would love for you to do that.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's a glorious time of the year if you're
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  Speaker 2: people like me. I'll tell you why. Coming up at 245.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: A couple things here before we get to Greg Cosell
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  Speaker 2: at 1220. I'll just throw this out there for the
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  Speaker 2: text line 49451. We got Factor Fiction at 235 today.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about you on this day before the
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  Speaker 2: day before. I woke up on the day before the
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  Speaker 2: day before. I feel, and we'll see, maybe Greg will
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  Speaker 2: make it better or worse. I feel a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of stress for Sunday. Yeah, I think you're the only one.
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  Speaker 2: More so than Wednesday, Ash. Last Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 4: I thought last Wednesday we were going to easily win that.
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  Speaker 4: Then it was real stressful because obviously no one saw
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  Speaker 4: Darnold going out four plays, five plays into the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And for us to pull it out, I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: feel very confident in our defense.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, Jackson just texted the two of us. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's good. He just wants to be paid off.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, perfect. Yep, you got it.
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  Speaker 2: Easy to do, Jackson. We got you handled, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: Done and done.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. My friends at Georgetown always take
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  Speaker 2: care of him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll make sure that keeps happening.
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  Speaker 3: They always take care of me too. They are lovely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, yeah. A little more stress from the last Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: it feels like. No, I get it. And we're always the,
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  Speaker 2: we're creatures of the moment. Like in what happened on
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  Speaker 2: Sunday with Arizona kind of smashing Justin Herbert and the Chargers.
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  Speaker 2: I think that got everybody's attention.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, although I just wonder if the Chargers aren't as
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  Speaker 4: good as we– They never are. They never are, right?
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  Speaker 4: Especially they always crumble in the playoffs. I think everybody
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  Speaker 4: just keeps thinking, oh, Herbert's this guy. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 4: Herbert also makes terrible decisions and hurts himself all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you– He wants to do too much. I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling you, Jess. I'm sorry. It's all right. I'm telling you, Ash,
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  Speaker 2: that the LA– and I almost called him San Diego–
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  Speaker 2: the LA Chargers, they are the mid-2000 Jeff Tedford coach
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  Speaker 2: Cal Bears.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We always fell in love with them. I say we.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: No, I didn't either. But you always gave them a
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  Speaker 3: lot of respect. You had to.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: They had the one upset over your alma mater and Pete.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, my God, look at Tedford. He's
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  Speaker 2: got that Cal team going.
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  Speaker 3: I actually remember where I was watching that game. Where
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  Speaker 3: were you?
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  Speaker 4: I was at my apartment on La Brea in Southern California,
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  Speaker 4: and I was pissed. Everyone.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, well, Tedford's got this team. And then
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  Speaker 2: the next five years or how long he was there,
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  Speaker 2: Look at the end of the year, they'd be 7-5
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  Speaker 2: or 7-6 or 8-4, whatever it would be. They never
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  Speaker 2: lived up to their, you know. But people, for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the same thing with the Chargers or the
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  Speaker 2: Cal Bears. People love them. So you're right. They may
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  Speaker 2: not be as good, right?
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  Speaker 3: But I still think Arizona's better than we thought they were.
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  Speaker 2: Which is not good.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: Because you're in a pretty good division.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't need more challenges within our own division.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll get into that a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: later on today as well. I'll wait until... mark this
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  Speaker 2: down at one o'clock, man, if you're a Husky fan,
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  Speaker 2: you absolutely. And this isn't me. I really want to
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  Speaker 2: make this clear. This is not me poking at it.
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  Speaker 2: I could, I should, but you have to hate the
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  Speaker 2: big 10 and it's television deals. You have to hate it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you why coming up at one o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, we'll get into that a little bit more as well. The, um,
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  Speaker 2: The injury report comes out in about an hour, the
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  Speaker 2: first one. They have two on the Fridays. It might
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  Speaker 2: even come out beforehand. We'll find out about Imanwari. Greg
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it earlier. I kind of side with him. I
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  Speaker 2: doubt that he's going to play if he hasn't had, quote,
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  Speaker 2: a full practice yet, but you don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They leave it open with limited. We'll talk with Greg
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  Speaker 2: about what that means for the Seahawks defense because it's
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  Speaker 2: a very much different defense without him. And you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be without Ty Okada. He hasn't practiced the last
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  Speaker 2: two days. Not even limited. He's just no practice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't love that.
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  Speaker 2: I like McDonald, though. He threw it out there on Wednesday. Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a chance. There's a chance that we could do this, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think he's playing, that's for sure. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll get into that with Greg Cosell coming up in
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Danny O'Neill's weekly visit at 1.20. We'll
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  Speaker 2: hit everything from Seahawks to Huskies to the Mariners, all
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  Speaker 2: that coming up with Danny at 1.20 today. And then
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  Speaker 2: Rob Rang from Fox Sports and also our BC Lions guy,
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  Speaker 2: he'll join us coming up at 2 o'clock today, brought
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  Speaker 2: to you by Farrelly's Pizza. We'll get into the college
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  Speaker 2: games this weekend. I mean, the biggest one is LSU
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  Speaker 2: Ole Miss. If you're a college football fan, you do
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  Speaker 2: not want to miss that. It is Saturday tomorrow, 4.30
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  Speaker 2: on ABC. The emotions in that building, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: there's anything that we can even closely in our area.
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  Speaker 2: And I think we have very good college football fans.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's very underrated out here. I think that
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  Speaker 2: the West Coast kind of gets crapped on sometimes for
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  Speaker 2: this lack of passion for college football. I think college
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  Speaker 2: football fans are passionate out here. We see that.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen Husky Stadium full. Most of the time it is,
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  Speaker 2: if it's not Utah State or Eastern Washington. And I
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  Speaker 2: know that the passion is there. What's going on with
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  Speaker 2: LSU and Ole Miss, different level. Not just the passion,
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  Speaker 2: but the absolute hatred that is going to be in
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  Speaker 2: that stadium, which is not always a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: No, because you could play with too much emotion.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The SEC is different.
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  Speaker 5: We have relatives.
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  Speaker 2: My wife has relatives. She's from there. She's from Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: And so we go down there every couple of years
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  Speaker 2: and I, I see it in July, like the passion
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  Speaker 2: and the, the anti Auburn or the anti Alabama, our,
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  Speaker 2: our families split. There's like some here and some here
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  Speaker 2: and it's. and i'm fine i have fun with it
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  Speaker 2: i'm like oh yeah roll time oh you know but
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  Speaker 2: they lane kiffin leaving at the end of the season
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  Speaker 2: last year going to the college football playoff to a
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  Speaker 2: conference rival man going back to oxford tennis uh mississippi
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  Speaker 2: i can't wait I cannot wait for that game. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's going to be phenomenal. And I usually don't
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  Speaker 2: care in those types of games unless I've got some
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  Speaker 2: juice on it. What happens? I don't even have juice
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  Speaker 2: on it. I just want Ole Miss to stomp him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Just stomp him.
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  Speaker 3: I want him to be embarrassed.
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  Speaker 4: I want his little schmucky face to look even schmuckier
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  Speaker 4: and sad.
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  Speaker 2: Schmucky as can be.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Sad schmuck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I want.
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  Speaker 2: Go back to his hot yoga on Monday. Yeah. Be
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  Speaker 2: weirdo Lane.
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  Speaker 3: He probably still wears his visor.
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  Speaker 2: Wear his visor at hot yoga.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Looking, creeping out every co-ed on campus.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. No.
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  Speaker 3: That's our Lane.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, Pete had a couple beauties, didn't he, as coordinators
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  Speaker 2: between Lane and Sark?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And they're not making headlines for great reasons lately.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe so. I don't believe so at all.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're correct. All right, Greg Cosell is going
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  Speaker 2: to join us. Let's get ready for the Seahawks and
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  Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. It's the day before the day before. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: booze news at 245. Rang and Danny, still to come.
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  Speaker 2: Your thoughts, comments, questions, concerns, 49451. All coming up on
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  Speaker 2: a football Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Regan's weekly visit with NFL Films' Greg Cosell. Brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by Seattle Cider Company. On your home for the
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  Speaker 1: 12th man in the NFL. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Greg Cosell joining us as
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  Speaker 2: he does every Friday. One of our favorite guests, one
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  Speaker 2: of our most popular guests as well. First time as
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  Speaker 2: well with Ashley Ryan running the show. You got to
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  Speaker 2: meet Ashley already, Greg. So, you know, like we've, we
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  Speaker 2: made a trade as they say on draft weekend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we made it. We have a trade to announce that
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  Speaker 2: the Ian Furness show has made a trade with the
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  Speaker 2: morning show and Chuck Powell show. And we have sent
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  Speaker 2: Anderson Hearst to the morning show in exchange for Ashley Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: There are some cash considerations as well.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually paid in alcohol. Ashley does a segment
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  Speaker 2: called Booze News, which, by the way, we should point
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  Speaker 2: out is coming up at 2.45 today. So I was
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  Speaker 2: the winner here. I'm the winner in this trade as well.
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  Speaker 2: So after Jess left us as an unrestricted free agent.
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  Speaker 5: I thought you were saying you were the winner in
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  Speaker 5: the Booze News.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be the winner then, too, at 2.45, the end
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  Speaker 2: of my work week. So it's all good. Hey, what
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  Speaker 2: a wild first, what is it now? I think we're eight,
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  Speaker 2: nine days into the NFL season. So we had a
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday game, a Thursday game. We had another Thursday game,
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  Speaker 2: and then the last weekend, Sunday's and Monday's game. How's
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell holding up? I know Jadarian Price isn't ready
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: for a full workload yet. Miles Garrett isn't ready for
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: a full workload. Are you ready for a full workload?
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: If I zone out or fall asleep during the segment here,
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: just have Ashley yell at me or something. I think
• 13:00
  Speaker 5: I'll be okay, though. I think I'll be okay.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: She's used to that. She works with another old guy
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: in me, so she's all good. She knows how to
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: handle those things. Greg, just a real quick thought on
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: a couple things. There's been a lot going on. It's
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: really surprising, and it happened again last night in the
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: Thursday game. Maybe I'm wrong here. It feels like normally
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: the start of an NFL season, we see defenses being
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: ahead of offenses, but boy, there have been a lot
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: of high-scoring games so far. It seems like that's out
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: of the norm, isn't it?
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: And again, I don't know the answer to that, and
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: I don't have a brilliant reason for why that might
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: be the case. You know, the only thing I could say,
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: and this may not be true at all specifically to
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: the teams involved, but obviously when you have new coaches
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: putting in new systems and teams don't play players in
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: the preseason, and you're dealing now with offensive, excuse me,
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: defensive philosophies where there's a lot more movement after the
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: snap of the ball. if players are, you know, you
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: know how it is. If one player is at a
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: position on defense, you can give up plays. It always
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: reminds me of the conversation years ago I had with
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: Dan Quinn talking about who's the most important player in
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: the Legion of Boom. And he said it's Earl Thomas
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: because he makes up for all the mistakes that happen
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: in front. And I'm sure the fans don't know what
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: those mistakes are. You know, you have to be in
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: it to know that. And so I don't have a
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: brilliant answer other than it just, you know, some of
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: this stuff does take time. and you have less practice time.
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: You have less time in pads. Players don't play in
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: the preseason. There's more cohesion required on the defensive side
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: of the ball now more than ever. Teams are less
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: static in how they play, and that can lead to
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: some issues.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Here and there. I think you've mentioned that to me before,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: but I forgot. I forgot how as we get to
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: those worlds of Hall of Fame votes and looking back
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: in retrospect at teams, that's a great insight from dan
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: quinn about earl's you know earl's importance because i think
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: there's times when earl was forgotten you know like like
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: cam and these other guys everyone there's so many big
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: personalities out there earl had a big personality but i
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: think people forget how important that safety position was and
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: what he did for seattle.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah and and you know it's it's like the ed
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: reeds of the world you know great players like that
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: who can just you know any mistake that's made in
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: front and believe me there are mistakes made all the
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: time you know it's it's you know it's funny just
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: and we'll get into this We'll get into the battle
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: of undefeateds in a second. But it's like in baseball when,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: you know, let's say a pitcher gives up a home
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: run and that's the only run he gives up. And
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: now just say, well, he only made one mistake. No,
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: he didn't make only one mistake. Just that that, you know,
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: that pitch happened to be hit for a home run.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: He probably made 20 mistakes and they were either fouled
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: off or the batter didn't hit it, you know. didn't
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: jump on it the way he should have. It's not
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: like that's the only mistake a guy made. It's just
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: the result of the play made it look like that's
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: the only mistake. There's probably mistakes made on so many
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: plays that where the result turns out not to be terrible.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about, as you mentioned, the battle of
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: the unbeaten. It's Greg Cosell, NFL Films ESPN Matchup Show,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: joining us every Friday as we look ahead to the
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Seahawks game. This is our first real one since last week.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: We did it kind of the week before and then
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: did a review of things afterwards. Let's start with the
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Seahawks offense against the Cardinals defense. And just talking about scoring,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Seattle didn't score a lot of points last week. They
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: scored 13. The Cardinals defense only allowed 14. They forced
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Justin Herbert into a not-such-a-great game, 83 pass rating when
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: it was all said and done. There was a couple
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: turnovers in the process as well. So what's Drew Locke
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks' offense going to see with this Arizona
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: defense coming up on Sunday?
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Well, again, then it depends on the personnel that the
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Seahawks are in. If they're going to be in base personnel,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: the Cards' base defense is 5-2, five across at the
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: first level, two stacked backers. They've got an edge rotation defense. Uh,
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: they basically play four guys on the edge that, that rotate.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: They have Josh Schwett, who's been in the league for
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: quite some time, Baron Browning, uh, Birch, um, who I
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: believe is from up your way in, in, in, you know,
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: in college. And then, uh, Xavier Collins, who's, you know,
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: been with Arizona for a number of years. Um, you know,
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: they still have Buda Baker, who's a very good player.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: They signed at this off season, Andrew Wingard to play
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: safety as well. He's one of those savvy, smart veterans. Um,
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: When I watched that tape, there were certain foundational players
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: that I thought were keys to how they play. The
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: two linebackers, Wilson, who's also a really good player, Wilson
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: and Gibbons, Safeties Baker and Wingard, and then the corners,
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Johnson and Burke, were kind of the guys that played
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: all the snaps almost, and they were the foundational players.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: They played a lot of zones as their coverage foundation.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: They did not play many snaps of defense. man in
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: the game against the Chargers. Now, the one thing I
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: will say is that it's week one. You don't know
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: if that was specific to that opponent or if this
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: is who they're going to be as the season progresses.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: They predominantly played out of a two-high safety shell, so
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: they did not play a ton of single high. So,
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: you know, that's what they did week one. It was
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: very effective against the Chargers in that game. I think
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: you and I would probably agree that the way that
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks will likely play offense, I don't think that
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: they're going to ask Drew Locke to drop back 40
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: times unless somehow the game turns out that way and
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: we'll get into the Cards offense shortly. But that's sort
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: of an overview of the Cards defense.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just looking at just some of the highlights, the numbers,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: and the stories afterwards, it looked like, I mean, I
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: saw that Gibbons and Baker shared a sack, so I
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: don't know if they're bringing Buda in pressure every now
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and then from the secondary. But that happened, you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, and they had five tackles for loss. They
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: had three sacks. They had a whole bunch of quarterback hits.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: They got pressure on Justin Herbert, who's a pretty athletic quarterback,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: it looks like.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Well, the interior of the Chargers O-line was really, really
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: bad in this game. They've got two good tackles, the Chargers, obviously,
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: and Slater and Hall.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: But the interior of their O-line, and plus they rotated
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: a left guard. In the NFL, you can't really do that,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: in my opinion. I mean, it's not college football. You
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: can't really do that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: And so they just got eaten up inside a player
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: that is potentially a really good player. He was hurt
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: his rookie season, but he's playing now is Walter Nolan
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: who plays inside. I mean, I watched him at Ole
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Miss and I thought watching his tape and he was
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: a first round pick that he had really big time
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: talent to play the position at D tackle. He had
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: snaps like Jalen Carter in college. He, you know, he just,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: he looks like one of those guys. So, but again,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: obviously the, issues for the Seahawks don't have the same
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: issue inside that the Chargers, I mean, the Chargers interior
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: was bad. I mean, it was almost below an NFL
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: level in that given game.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: That's good context to have, honestly. Greg Costell joining us
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and just to see where that is, because you just
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: look at the numbers and the A couple highlights you
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: wonder what's going on there. You mentioned that you don't
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: think they're going to make Drew Locke drop back. I
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: would have guessed you're right. I don't think even if
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald's in there, they want him to drop back
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and chuck it around 40 times a game. I saw
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: O'Marion Hampton did nothing in that game. I think he
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: only had 12 carries. I don't know if that was
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: game-related with the score, but 43 yards I think it
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: was and just got nothing going on the ground. He
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: had If you take away his 14-yard gain, it was
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: actually an abysmal day running the football for the Chargers.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks really didn't use Jadarian Price much. 15 total
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: touches in the game. And even Brian Flory, I should
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: tell you, Greg, the offensive coordinator yesterday, saying, hey, we're
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: just kind of ramping him up. We're ramping him up
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: along the way. So there's a little bit of a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: balancing act they're going through. But you watched Jadarian Price.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: We talked about it a little bit last Friday, but
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: we should kind of refresh everyone's memory. What did you
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: like about Jadarian Price and the Seahawks running game when
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: they did do it?
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I really liked it. And I thought they
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: did a really good job with the outside zone concepts.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: I thought it worked really well and Price looked good.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: You know, again, every game is different. You know, just
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: to make a point about Omarion Hampton and the Cards defense,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: the Chargers only had 51 offensive plays and they only
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: converted two third downs. So they never were able to
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: get into any kind of rhythm or continuity on offense.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: And that impacts the run game because then you feel
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: like you can't run, you've got to throw. And so
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: your running back becomes somewhat irrelevant. Now, I'm not saying
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: He would have rushed for 150 yards. We have no idea.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: But I'm saying the way that game played out, Hampton
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: almost became a non-entity in the game. Ideally, that's not
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: going to be the case this week with the Seahawks
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: and their offense. They're not going to run 51 offensive plays.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: If they do, they're going to be in a really
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: tough game that they could lose. But I really like Price,
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: and I like what they did with him. You know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: I think he sees it well. You know, when you're
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: a back, particularly when you run, you know, let's say
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: mid to outside zone, you know, what the back has
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: to be able to innately seek in is he's got
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: to be able to innately just see and feel the
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: blocking scheme and the defensive flow. You're not thinking it
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: because then it takes too long. You just have to
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: innately see it, which is why some guys are better
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: zone runners than other guys. It's why some guys you
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: can't do that and you've got to run them inside
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: where they're just following, you know, one guy, you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: because zone, you're sort of have to see it all.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: And it just, Like I said, you can't think through that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: You've got to just feel it and see it because
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: it happens. As you know, it happens in a millisecond.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: It happens really fast, and I think Price is good
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: at that.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell joining us, previewing Seattle and Arizona 1 o'clock
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: on Sunday on FOX 13 here locally. All right, let's
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: flip to the other side of the ball. Jacoby Percet,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: 27 for 37, 277, had a touchdown, and to no
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: one's surprise that's ever watched anything having to do with
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals, Trey McBride was his favorite target. Nine catches,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: 13 targets, 95 yards, and a touchdown. You and I
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: have talked about this, Greg. The one common denominator that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: the Pete Carroll teams have had with the Mike McDonald teams,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: at least defensively, tight ends have given them problems. McBride,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: the last couple of years, but he gives everybody problems.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Let's just talk about Brissette, McBride, and what that passing
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: offense does and looking ahead.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I got to tell you, I thought this was one
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: of the best games that I've seen Jacoby Brissette play.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, he started a lot of games in this league.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: One reason he's never been thought of as a full-time starter,
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: in my view anyway, based on tape study, is I
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: always thought that he would just get stuck in the
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: pocket too much. He wouldn't push the ball down the field.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: He'd get stuck in the pocket, and then often bad
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: things happen. Not necessarily sacks or interceptions, but he would
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: just throw it away. It just didn't work. In this game,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: and again, I can't remember every game Joby Jacoby Brissett
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: has started. He's played in the league a long time,
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: but I thought in this game, he played with really
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: higher level mental efficiency. He read pressure and coverage. He
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: played with a more refined sense of timing and rhythm.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: He got the ball out. And what that did is
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: it totally minimized and at times eliminated the Chargers four-man
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: D-line pass rush because he was playing with really good timing.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: He hit his back foot. The ball was out. Um,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: And that's something he's not done consistently enough throughout his career,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: which is one reason why he's not been viewed as
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: the answer as a starter. So we'll see if that
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: continues this week. Obviously, he's going to be playing a
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: better defense, although the Chargers don't have bad players on defense,
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: by the way. But he's obviously playing a better defense.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Do you know if Eamon Worry is due to play
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: this week?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: So Eamon Worry is going to be– he's limited the
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: last two days– We don't think he's going to play
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: because he hasn't been a full participant yet in a
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: practice this year. But he was limited yesterday. We'll find
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: out actually in about 20-25 minutes from right now what
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: the first practice report says from the walkthrough on Friday.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: We saw him. I was at practice on Wednesday. He
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: was out there. Came walking out. Was in pads. Had
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: a helmet. In fact, Mike McDonald was a little upset
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: that he came out there when the media was still
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: allowed to be out there so we could all see
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: him and take pictures. And, you know, they're kind of
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: hiding him in the back, right? But, you know, I'm
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: going to guess no, but you never know. We saw
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: him running around and jogging. He looked fine, but we
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: don't know. So, yeah, I'm going to guess this is
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: truly one of those things where they might list him
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: as questionable and it might truly be questionable.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Well, hey, I feel for him because, you know what,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: I'm limited every day too. So am I.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: So am I, Greg. So am I. We're all limited.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Ashley may not be, but we are. What does Trey
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: McBride do for this offense?
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Trey McBride is a really good tight end and probably
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: doesn't get talked about enough. And the thing about him
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: is he can line up all over the formation. You know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: he's not just an attached guy. He's not just a
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: split guy. He can line up all over the formation.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: And so you have to be aware of that and
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: you have to know where he is and you have
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: to have a plan for that. You can't be surprised
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: by it. You know, the other thing, too, that's really
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: interesting about their offense, their best wide receiver is not
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison. Their best wide receiver is Michael Wilson. And
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison, you know, when you watch his tape and
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: obviously I've watched him going back to college and look,
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I really liked him as many people did. So I'm
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: not going to do revisionist history here. But he's a glider.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: He doesn't seem to quite have the explosive juice that
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: I thought that he had coming out of college. And
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: he's kind of a glider, and he doesn't really create separation.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: He caught a 33-yarder last week. That was really a
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: function of Brissette making a great throw on a fade ball,
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: dropping it in the bucket. But there was no separation
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: whatsoever by Harrison. And he doesn't normally get much separation.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: So it's really fascinating to watch him. But Obviously, McBride, critical.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Michael Wilson is a really good receiver. You know, he's
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: from Stanford, I believe, and I really like the way
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: he plays. And I think they have Kendrick.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Bourne now who understands.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: He's one of those guys that just understands how to
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: find voids in zones, how to sit down, give the
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: quarterback a throw. You know, he's one of those veterans.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: You know, he's not necessarily going to, you know, catch
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: 80 balls for 1,200 yards. But he's just one of
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: those solid veterans that knows how to play the receiver position.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bourne had eight catches. Wilson had five. And as
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Greg mentioned, the only catch came from Marvin Harrison was
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: one catch on three targets. And just kind of a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: non-entity right now so far since.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: He came in. They don't really target him either, which
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: is really interesting.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, three targets the entire game, Greg. That's crazy.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I think we all were like wondering what's going to
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: happen with him. All right. You got a chance to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: lay eyes for the first time as well on their
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: new running back. Jeremiah love, uh, like our guide, Jadarian
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: price and Notre Dame product. Uh, they were one too, obviously, uh,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: price going very, very, uh, or, uh, love going very high.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: What'd you see from, uh, love in his first game?
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Um, you saw a couple of runs where he saw
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: the juice that he has. He had the touchdown run.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I think he had an 18 yard or where he,
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: he bounced out to the edge and you saw the speed. Um, But,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: you know, don't forget, he didn't play much in the
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: preseason at all because he had that high ankle sprain.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: So down the stretch in the fourth quarter, when they
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: were just basically using the run game to eat up clock,
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: it was Tyler Argier that had eight carries in the
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: fourth quarter and Love only had one carry. So, I mean,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: you know, Love is probably, and again, maybe this week
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: he's better, but because he did not really have a preseason,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: I think that they were kind of monitoring him a
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: little bit. I think obviously you'll see a lot more
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: of him. whether that starts this week against the Seahawks.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: I certainly can't answer that, Ian. But, I mean, they
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: didn't draft him fourth overall, you know, to do what
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: happened last week. I think that was a function of
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: the fact that he didn't really play in the preseason.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: And not only did he not play, he missed a
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: lot of practice time. Yeah, and I had Greg Cosell
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: joining us.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I had Riley Mills, his teammate at Notre Dame, on
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: the show with me over at Seahawks on Wednesday. And
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Riley was effusive in his praise for Love. And actually
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: him and Price. But he said, yeah, he said, Love
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: can be a problem. So I think that front that
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: front group for Seattle is going to be in for
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: it a little bit.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: And by the way, I really like Riley Mills. And
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: I think he played 16 snaps in the last game.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: He's now part of that rotation, which is four now
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: instead of three. And I think he's a, you know,
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: it's funny, he tore his ACL his last year at
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Notre Dame, but I watched him the year prior as well. And,
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: you know, I thought he'd be one of those really
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: solid rotational D tackles, you know, not a star, but
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: a guy that, you know, would get a lot of snaps.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: And I think, that's starting to play out. I think
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: you'll see that in Seattle now.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: He talked about it a little bit with us, and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: then we talked to Leonard Williams on Wednesday, too, in
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: his media session, and what Riley said was interesting. Both
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Leonard and Williams and Riley Mills are bigger, taller guys
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: you know, in defensive linemen, right? Like, you just don't
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: see that all that often. I always think back to
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: the Red Bryant days, you know, where they could never really...
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: You know, until Pete came here, no one ever found
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: a position for Red Bryant. Then Pete came here and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: made him, what, the 5-tech and kind of set the edge,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and he was out there because he was just massive. Hell,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Buffalo had that kid last night that was... six, eight
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: and 330 pounds. It was a massive problem for, uh, uh,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: for the Detroit lions. But yeah, they mill said that
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Leonard Williams has really helped him because of the body types,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the technique, being taller, leverage, all those things. And I'm
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: not sure if he could find a better guy to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: work under than, uh, than Leonard Williams, Greg.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: No, especially since they're similar body types. Yeah. So, so
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: that probably look, Williams obviously is, is more athletically gifted.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, Williams was a top six, seven pick in
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: a draft and has obviously had a great career. Um,
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: And Mills is not quite that athletically gifted, but stylistically,
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: they'd have to play in a very similar fashion because
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: of their size. So I'm sure that Williams can really
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: help and acclimate to the league.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Did you see Seattle doing much different what they normally
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: do with Okada out, Thomas in, and Eamon Worry out,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and Tyrese Knight getting some snaps and others in the box?
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Well, they did. I mean, in terms of their personnel usage, yes,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: they did a lot of different things because, as you know,
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: they played 4-3. quite a few snaps before three Tyrese night,
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: I think played 17 or 18 snaps. So, uh, you know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: last year, once I'm in worry became the factor, which
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: didn't happen until what, maybe week four or five last year.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Cause you heard that first.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I got hurt in that first game.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: They didn't really play any four or three, you know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: they were a big nickel as a base defense, you know,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: I'm in worry did not really come off the field. So, um,
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: you know, that was a change that they made clearly, uh, and, um, Obviously,
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: they did not have– they've had to play Pritchard at corner.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: So that was his second NFL start. He was the
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: field corner in their conventional nickel with Job, the boundary corner,
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: and Witherspoon, the slot corner. And because Eamon Warrior was out,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: they didn't play any dime. So normally, they're a heavy-dime team.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: That's good, Greg. Stop right there. Stop right there. That's
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: big for them, right? That's a significant change for Seattle,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: not going dime in an entire game.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: No, they played 50 snaps of nickel, 16 snaps of base,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: one snap of what we call heavy, but that's just situational.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: It's probably either goal line or third and one or
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: one of those, but they did not play any snaps
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: of dying.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. Well, we'll see what Imanwari's status is.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to guess questionable truly is questionable and probably
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: leaning more towards doubtful, but Since Lane Kiffin's not doing
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the injury report, we might be able to believe Seattle
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit more than what's going on down there
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: at LSU and Ole Miss right now. So we'll leave
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: it at that. We'll leave it at that. Match-up show,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: what do you got going on this week?
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Well, actually, the Seahawks cards is in the show this week.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Because, hey, it's a battle of undefeateds, as we said.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: But we've got– actually, there's some good games. We've got Jaguars-Broncos,
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Seahawks cards, Vikings-Bears, Bengals-Texans, Colts-Chiefs, Giants-Rams, Saints-Ravens. And as I
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: probably mentioned to you last week, we're really excited that
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: we're on the NFL Network as well. So we have
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: seven airings, which, hey, I know a lot of people
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: don't watch shows these days where you watch them when
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: they actually air, but it's still nice to have seven
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: actual airings.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And I would encourage people to go check it out.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: NFL Network or ESPN, Greg and company do a great job,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: fun show, breaking things down, and away we go. We'll
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: talk to you next week. Sir, great stuff as always.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Ian. Appreciate it.
• 33:29
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• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Do we feel better or worse, Ash? I don't know.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Not going to lie, I actually feel worse.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Because it was like, oh, you think like, oh, yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: they played pretty well. And then it was, well, Jacoby
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Brissett's played the best we've seen him play ever. Don't
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: forget about that monster. That's Trey McBride. Oh, did you
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: know Marvin Harrison's not actually their best wide receiver?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: So you got that. Oh, and then, yeah, let's add
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: in Jeremiah Love. Why not?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing with Greg you'll learn with him, Ash,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: is that, and our listeners would know this and have
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: listened to him, He, he, he's, he's a, he's a
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: funny dude, man. Like, like he can only tell us
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: what the tape says. Like I asked him that first,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I always like throwing something at him just cause it just,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I see his head spinning. Yeah. Um, and it's, I said,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: you know, what about, uh, you know, high scoring games? Well,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I can't really, and then I'll just jump right into it.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Cause he knows stuff. Uh, like I thought the Earl
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Thomas stuff was fascinating, but you know, he, he's, he's
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: about as objective as it gets. He doesn't have any
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: rooting interest anywhere, even when he's doing a market like ours.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: He only does about three or four local markets in
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: the country, mostly national stuff. So he'll tell you exactly
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: what he thinks. If he thinks the Seahawks are bad,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: he'll tell you. If he thinks the players are bad,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: he'll tell you. If he thinks they're great, he'll tell you.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: For example, him and Hugh disagree on Josh Jobe. He
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: really thinks highly of Jobe, and Hugh thinks that Jobe
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: is kind of the weak link in the secondary. That's
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: for that. Oh, by the way, just along those lines,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: by week we do a Hugh Millen Greg Cosell think tank.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, gosh.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Where it's, here's what we do. I say, hey, welcome back, Ian,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: with you. Greg Cosell's with us, and here's Hugh Millen,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and then I just get the hell out of the way.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: And you just sit back and kick your feet up.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: They're phenomenal together. Yeah, I bet. They're great together. They're
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: both part of that 30-13. But when the other team's awful,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: he'll tell you. When he sees something on tape that
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: is worrisome, he'll tell you as well. And so, yeah,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I kind of said, you know, I'd
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: love to get people's thoughts on this, 49451, talkbacks as well.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: How are we feeling about that? I'm feeling a little
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: nervous about this. I'm feeling far more nervous about this
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: game than I was about the Patriots.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: And then the Patriots, as you mentioned. Yeah, I am.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: I am as well. And especially far more nervous about
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: this game now than I was a month ago.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't, I wasn't worried about it at all.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I counted it as a win.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: The Marvin Harrison thing's wild, isn't it?
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Like, God, it, you know, every year we do all
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: the draft stuff and we get so deep into it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: You know, you did the draft miss stuff for all
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: those years with Chuck and, and like, we think we
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: all know what's going on. Marvin Harrison is just like,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: like he's kind of that one wide receiver from that
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: school that hasn't popped.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it has been, but I do, you can't ever
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: sleep on him. Cause I feel like he's got that potential.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking back last loss for Seattle at Arizona.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Do you know what it was?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Oh God.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Like, Because we think of that place as a house.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Of whores, right?
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does seem like bad, weird things happen there.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Well, bad things happen. Yeah. I mean, Cam's career ended there.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: His career ended. Sherm Seahawk's career ended there. Yeah. Will
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Disley blew his patella tendon out.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, gosh, yeah.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I won't even mention what happened in the other big
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: game that happened there in February of one year. There's
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: other stuff that's happened. I was lucky enough to be
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: at all those things where it's just like, what the
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: hell's going to happen now? I do remember this. I
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: sent Softie a picture of the year. So it would
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: have been fall of 2015. We're doing a pregame show.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I think it was like a Thursday night game or something.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: And I sent Softie, I walked out on the field
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: because we were there very early. I walked out and
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Phil took a picture of the hash mark and sent
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: it to Softie. Oh my God, he lost his mind.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Oh God.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: He's like, no! Hey, you know where the ball snapped?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Remember that? But no, the last time they lost in
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Arizona to the Cardinals was October 25th, 2020. And that
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: was COVID year.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: So that doesn't count.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: That doesn't count.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: So it's like we didn't even lose there.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Last time they lost a game there that mattered was,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: oh God, 2016 tie.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: 6-6.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: That was a thriller. Let's see.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: I think I was in France trying to stream that.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: It's really hard to do, by the way.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: That was just awful.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: That was awful. But yeah, so the Seahawks have had
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: great success. What is it, 11 straight wins they've had
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: against North Southern? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: nine straight overall and I think whatever it is on
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: the road, they have success there. But this team, they
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: may not be that pushover. Or maybe we'll find out.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: And what Greg said, you know, that interior of that
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: line for the Chargers just got awful, and that was
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: what happened.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: That could be the case, too.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: All right, 49451, your thoughts. Danny O'Neill coming up at 120.
• 38:47
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• 38:48
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• 38:50
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