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Birds Weekly: Didinger, Gunn Say "Six Games In, Things Are Getting Worse" For Eagles · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hi, once again, everybody. Welcome to this edition of Birds Weekly.
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Speaker 1: It is brought to you by the Inside the Bird's Network.
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Speaker 1: That man right there is Ray Didtinger. I'm Derek Gunn
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Speaker 1: and Ray. There is trouble in Bird's Paradise. Now. I
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Speaker 1: watched the game a second time just to make sure
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Speaker 1: I saw what I saw, and it was worse the
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Speaker 1: second time, Ray, And the best word and the nicest
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Speaker 1: word I can come up with to describe what I witnessed,
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Speaker 1: not once but twice is embarrassing. I mean, I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to be nice about this, but embarrassing. It is a
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Speaker 1: word of choice right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. I can't come up with another one.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could, you know, humiliating, appalling, disgusting,
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Speaker 2: there are other ones, but embarrassing's pretty good. Good. I
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Speaker 2: was just thinking for this week, maybe we should call
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Speaker 2: our segment Bird's Weekly.
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Speaker 1: W E A K L Y.
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Speaker 2: That was That was pretty weak and look, we all
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Speaker 2: we all saw it, we all know it. We could
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Speaker 2: sit here and re read the box score for the
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Speaker 2: next half hour, but that's not going to solve anything.
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Speaker 2: I think what we have to do now is just
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Speaker 2: kind of figure out, And this is probably the question
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Speaker 2: everybody's asking, was what we saw on Thursday just an aberration,
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Speaker 2: just a bad night, or more disturbingly, is it an
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Speaker 2: indication of where this team is right now? And is
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Speaker 2: this where is this where you're headed? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean you typically you would say after a game
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Speaker 2: like that, you'd say, come on, there're the super Bowl champs.
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Speaker 2: It was a terrible night. They happened, but we'll be fine.
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know anybody that I've talked to
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Speaker 2: in the last week that's saying they'll be fine. I
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Speaker 2: think people have genuine concerns as you do, and so.
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Speaker 1: Do what you know, Ray, And I'm the same way.
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Speaker 1: People are are asking me what's wrong with this team?
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Speaker 1: Is this what we're gonna be watching the rest of
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Speaker 1: the season? And I honestly don't know how to answer
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Speaker 1: them right now. I mean, when you think about it,
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Speaker 1: and bear with me for a moment. We're gonna start
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Speaker 1: with this defense. We always start with the offense, but
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Speaker 1: let's start with the defense this time. In a span
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Speaker 1: of five days, we've watched this Eagles defense get taken
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Speaker 1: apart by a second year quarterback with less than a
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Speaker 1: year and a half experience in bo Nicks and then
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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback who was making his third start at
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Speaker 1: the NFL level. Now no Jalen Carter. In this game,
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Speaker 1: Quinnon Mitchell goes down with a hamstring injury. Okay, but
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Speaker 1: they are guys like little Jordan Humphrey, one Dale Robinson,
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hyatt who hadn't caught a pass all season until
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Speaker 1: Thursday night running rings around the Eagles defense. Ray. The
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Speaker 1: Eagle secondary depth right now is abysmal with no end
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Speaker 1: in sight. I don't know any other way to describe it.
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Speaker 2: No, that's I think you're right. And we still don't
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Speaker 2: know really the status of quini On Mitchell when he's
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Speaker 2: going to be back. But when he came out, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean at that point, Jackson dark do anything you
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Speaker 2: wanted to do. I mean, we've seen a Dori Jackson
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Speaker 2: up to this point, and he ain't going to get
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Speaker 2: any better. I mean, I mean, he's it's a Dory
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Speaker 2: Jackson and you put him out in the field, that's
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Speaker 2: what you're going to get.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: Kitty Ringo is a kid who I think has a
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Speaker 2: worulnerability but has not yet put it together. So you
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Speaker 2: look at him and you think, well, maybe if you know,
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Speaker 2: maybe you can work him in and maybe he can
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Speaker 2: he can sort of find himself. I don't know, I
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Speaker 2: don't know if there's any Yeah, it's no guarantee to that,
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Speaker 2: but there's a chance said maybe he could he could
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Speaker 2: get better, Dori Jackson. I mean I've seen enough. I mean,
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Speaker 2: that's you know. I mean, the coverage thing has been
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Speaker 2: bad from the start, you know, but I mean the
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Speaker 2: way he turtled up on that on that play at
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Speaker 2: the goal line is just I mean, come on. And
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Speaker 2: that's when you look at what what was the stamp
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Speaker 2: of this team last year? The way they physically dominated
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Speaker 2: week after week after week. I mean they were like
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Speaker 2: the new Broad Street Bullies has really kind of what
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Speaker 2: they were. And now they're getting it handed to him.
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Speaker 2: And uh and on Thursday night, for sure, And you know,
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Speaker 2: I didn't see it coming. I honestly didn't. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I thought that the Denver loss was disturbing because it
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Speaker 2: just seems to me that you don't blow a two
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Speaker 2: touchdown fourth quarter lead at home. But I mean there
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Speaker 2: was a side of you that could say, listen, I
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Speaker 2: think Denver is a better team than people realize. And
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Speaker 2: I think Denver's pretty good and Peyton's a really good coach,
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Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean, okay, that's you've got to lose
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Speaker 2: those games now, and again you can kind of rationalize
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Speaker 2: that one. Admittedly, that's what I did, because when you
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Speaker 2: and I, when you and I came off of that
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Speaker 2: game and we're talking and looking ahead to this game,
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Speaker 2: I fully expected this to be, you know, one of
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Speaker 2: those get right games. Yep, a short week, good team
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Speaker 2: off a bad loss, playing a bad team coming coming
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Speaker 2: out of New Orleans, where they just hand it a
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Speaker 2: bad Saints team a runaway win. I'm saying that this
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Speaker 2: is going to be. And I said to you, I said,
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Speaker 2: I think they're going to blow this team out. I agree,
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Speaker 2: And I said, like thirty one thirteen or something, I mean,
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Speaker 2: and I thought that was conservative. I in no way,
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Speaker 2: shape or form expected what we saw on Thursday. And
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Speaker 2: you can't just dismiss it as oh, you know that
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Speaker 2: was a blip, because early in the season when we
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Speaker 2: were talking about some of the inconsistencies we were seeing
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Speaker 2: with this team, which were there, certainly, you know, I
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Speaker 2: was saying maybe not so much as you, but I
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Speaker 2: was saying, look, it's early. You know they're gonna they're
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Speaker 2: gonna work through all this and get to mid season.
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Speaker 2: They're gonna hit their stride and they're gonna be They're
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Speaker 2: still the best team in the league. They're just working
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Speaker 2: some things out. Well, you know, we're six games in now, uh,
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Speaker 2: and things aren't getting better. If anything, they're just getting worse.
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Speaker 2: And now you have to begin to ask yourself, is
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Speaker 2: this really what this team is and if that's if
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Speaker 2: it's if it's more of the same with what we
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Speaker 2: saw on Thursday night, Man, it's gonna be a long,
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Speaker 2: hard road to the finish line.
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Speaker 1: Not only that ray, but as we know, as we've
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Speaker 1: covered not just professional football, but other sports as well,
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Speaker 1: if a downroad spiral continues, all of a sudden, you
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Speaker 1: have guys in the locker room that start to whisper
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Speaker 1: a little bit louder, a little bit louder, and more
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Speaker 1: people start to hear their grapes, and it becomes more
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Speaker 1: of a media frenzy in terms of trying to die
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Speaker 1: sect what is wrong with the team and who's finger
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Speaker 1: pointing who, and is their tension in the locker room
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Speaker 1: and who doesn't like who? But but it's quite obvious
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Speaker 1: that I think Howie Roseman may have to make some
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Speaker 1: type of move before the trade deadline, especially to show
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Speaker 1: up that cornerback position. And I've looked at a number
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Speaker 1: of players out there are still out there and no,
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Speaker 1: nothing great, but somebody's got to be better than what
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Speaker 1: they have right now, other than Quenyon Mitchell when he's healthy,
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Speaker 1: because the opposite side of the field is like it's
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Speaker 1: like a vast wasteland over there. And if I'm a
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Speaker 1: decent quarterback, I may make the Pro Bowl throwing to
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Speaker 1: the opposite side of the field from away from Quenyon
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Speaker 1: Mitchell this season.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. I mean that's and that's where you are now,
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Speaker 2: and that's I don't know if that's going to get
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Speaker 2: any better. It certainly ain't gonna get any better with
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Speaker 2: Dori Jackson. I mean that's that's for sure. And you
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Speaker 2: can look at Ringo and say, boy, there's still a
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Speaker 2: lot there to develop. He's just not quite there yet.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, I mean that is one
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Speaker 2: thought I had coming off of that game on Thursday,
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Speaker 2: was you know, there's the side of it that says, oh,
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Speaker 2: come on, you don't want to panic. You don't want
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Speaker 2: to panic right now. Well, when you come off a
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Speaker 2: game like that, there's something to be said for not panicking,
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Speaker 2: but it's also you can't just let it go. You
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Speaker 2: have to look at the reality of it. And you've
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Speaker 2: got a trading deadline coming up. You have what has
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Speaker 2: been an obvious weakness with this team since training camp
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Speaker 2: is that other cornerback position, and it's not getting any better.
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Speaker 2: So I think I don't know how he's going to
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Speaker 2: be able to make a move because, like you said,
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's there are no Patricks or Tan
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Speaker 2: sitting out there that anybody's willing to trade. But I
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Speaker 2: think how he has to be looking for ways to
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Speaker 2: try and prove that. If you can't make the trade,
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Speaker 2: then you know, maybe you're at the point now where
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Speaker 2: I know they haven't been, they haven't wanted to do it,
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Speaker 2: but maybe it just got to put Cooper to Gene
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Speaker 2: out there and then and then just make him the
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Speaker 2: other make Kim cornerback too, and then just try and
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Speaker 2: mix and match in the slot. But that might be
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Speaker 2: if they can't make a deal, that might be that
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Speaker 2: might be the way to go.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't recommend it because I think degene is is
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Speaker 2: well suited to the slot position. But if you can't
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Speaker 2: make a trade to improve that position, that might be
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Speaker 2: your only alternative.
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Speaker 1: And Ray, I don't think a lot of teams want
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Speaker 1: a trade with the Philadelphia Eagles right now when you
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Speaker 1: think about it. I mean with the success they've had now,
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Speaker 1: you know over the last couple of years. You know,
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Speaker 1: if I'm a gm uh, the Eagles are the last
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Speaker 1: team I want to help make stronger in any way,
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Speaker 1: shape or for you know, we we we've heard We've
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Speaker 1: heard teams say that in the past, and when it
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Speaker 1: comes to dealing with other teams, I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: help them. Why would I Why would I help them
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Speaker 1: get any better? So how he may be handcuffed in
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Speaker 1: some ways in terms of what he would like to do.
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Speaker 1: We always wait for him, whether it's whether it's it's
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Speaker 1: the spring, spring or training camp or early in the
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Speaker 1: season to make a wow factor type of trade. But
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Speaker 1: I think his hands, maybe he might be handcuffed in
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Speaker 1: this case.
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Speaker 2: Could be could be that you and I both know
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Speaker 2: how well enough. Yeah, you know that he's not sitting
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Speaker 2: on his hands right now. I mean, he's he's got
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Speaker 2: the big board up there with all the all the
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Speaker 2: cornerbacks in the league raided, and he's thinking of alternatives.
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Speaker 2: He's thinking about making a move because he's done it.
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Speaker 2: He's you know, he's not a guy that shy about
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Speaker 2: making moves in mid season. He does it more often
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Speaker 2: than not. And here's the situation where you have an
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Speaker 2: obvious need. The question is is there anybody out there
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Speaker 2: that's gettable, that could be better than what you have
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Speaker 2: right now? You know, getting back to the point that
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Speaker 2: you made just a moment ago, which is a really
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Speaker 2: good one, is when when things start to go bad,
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Speaker 2: is the what happens within the locker room among the players,
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Speaker 2: the level of disc intent, the murmuring and all that
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Speaker 2: kind of stuff that happens. I mean, you've seen it.
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Speaker 2: I've seen it, yeah, but Thursday night it went way
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Speaker 2: past murmuring. I thought it was very telling that Lane
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Speaker 2: Johnson after the game in the locker room without any prompting, okay,
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Speaker 2: I mean, volunteer at the fact that we're predictable on
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Speaker 2: offense and sort of elaborated on it. It isn't like
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Speaker 2: it was one of those we've seen players say things
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Speaker 2: and immediately they regret them just oh, that's kind of
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Speaker 2: slipped down.
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Speaker 2: Lane Johnson's a thirteen year VET. He's been in this
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Speaker 2: city his whole career. He knows, he knows the medium
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Speaker 2: market here, he knows how the news cycle works. He
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Speaker 2: doesn't just stumble into saying things. He knew exactly what
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Speaker 2: he was doing there. He was He said what he
14:27
Speaker 2: said for a purpose, and that was to get it
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Speaker 2: out and basically say, hey, this is how we feel.
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Speaker 2: And I mean if it's He's not like a first
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Speaker 2: year player that doesn't understand the implications of a player
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Speaker 2: saying something in dire times. He knows. So what he
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Speaker 2: was doing given this medium market with sports talk radio,
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Speaker 2: with the media, all podcasters, I mean, this is exactly
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Speaker 2: what everybody's out there was sort of fans and pod
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Speaker 2: casters and talk shows. We're using it. Are the Eagles predictable?
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Speaker 2: On the Eagles predictable? And that that people have been
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Speaker 2: kicking that around and it would be easy for coaches
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Speaker 2: and other players just you guys don't know what you're
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Speaker 2: talking about. When Blane Johnson says it, then all of
15:16
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's out there and everybody has to face it.
15:20
Speaker 2: I mean that was I mean, that was like throwing
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Speaker 2: a big piece of Kobe beef into a tiger cage,
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Speaker 2: was what he did on Thursday night. And and everybody
15:32
Speaker 2: is going to just pounce on that.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: And it didn't happen by accident, And so now I
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Speaker 2: think you have to deal with the fallout from that,
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Speaker 2: uh and the conception that, geez, maybe there's internal trouble
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Speaker 2: on the team. But that's another issue. The one issue
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Speaker 2: now the accuracy of what he's saying and the validity
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Speaker 2: of what he's saying. And if there really is that
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Speaker 2: element of predictability there, and to me, I think there is,
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Speaker 2: then it's up to the coaching staff find a way
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Speaker 2: to address it.
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Speaker 1: In all the years I've covered this game, Ray, I've
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Speaker 1: found out one thing to be true. When one player
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Speaker 1: is brave enough to make a comment like that, he
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Speaker 1: is not only speaking for himself, He's speaking for multiple
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Speaker 1: players on that team. And if things like this continue,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna see more and more players get braver and
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Speaker 1: braver in terms of speaking out. It's gonna trickle down
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Speaker 1: to where the younger players are gonna start speaking out
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Speaker 1: as well. You know, you look at a guy like
16:29
Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith. He's a young player, but he's already at
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Speaker 1: a point he doesn't have a problem speaking his mind
16:34
Speaker 1: because his buddy, you know, aj Brown, speaks his mind. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So it makes a younger player a lot braver. And
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Speaker 1: when that kind of stuff happens, it puts the coordinator,
16:46
Speaker 1: It puts the head coach under a lot of pressure
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Speaker 1: because when they sit down at that podium and have
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Speaker 1: to answer the media because they know it's coming, they
16:57
Speaker 1: have to deflect stuff that they don't want to talk about.
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Speaker 1: And then you have to turn around and talk about
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Speaker 1: it the in house with their players and try to
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Speaker 1: get their players back on the same page before this
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Speaker 1: thing completely unravels, right right.
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Speaker 2: You know, when we were for the season, when we
17:12
Speaker 2: were looking down the road to what challenges we're going
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Speaker 2: to face this team at the defending champ one of
17:19
Speaker 2: the things that we talked about was and one of
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Speaker 2: the things I was concerned about was the history of
17:26
Speaker 2: this team the year after a Super Bowl the years
17:30
Speaker 2: after Super Bowls have always been really tough years for
17:36
Speaker 2: this team, and going all the way back to the
17:38
Speaker 2: for Meal team in the eighty one season. You know,
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Speaker 2: they started the year six and zero looked great and
17:45
Speaker 2: then just sort of ran out of gas second half
17:48
Speaker 2: of the year, had some tough losses, limped into the
17:51
Speaker 2: playoffs and were won and done. You know, then Andy's
17:54
Speaker 2: team come off the loss to the Patriots. They come
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Speaker 2: back to the next year, you have the to meltdown.
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Speaker 2: You know, McNabb gets hurt, You're coming down the stretch
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Speaker 2: with Mike McMahon a quarterback. You wind up not even
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Speaker 2: making the playoffs. Then you come off winning the Super
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Speaker 2: Bowl with the Doug Peterson team, and immediately, you know,
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Speaker 2: Wentz comes back from the injury, does not play well.
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Speaker 2: You get into this whole Winz Foles thing. The fans
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Speaker 2: turn on wins, all kinds of questions, or is the coach,
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Speaker 2: how's the coach going to deal with this? All sorts
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Speaker 2: of drama. The team again sort of gets into the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: They win one game in Chicago by luck double doink,
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Speaker 2: and then lose the next week in New Orleans, and
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Speaker 2: then the Sirianne team that loses a tough game in
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl to Kansas City, comes back the next year,
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Speaker 2: goes ten to one, and then just completely collapses. And
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Speaker 2: every and all one thing that's been true in all
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Speaker 2: of those cases was there was just an incredible amount
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Speaker 2: of drama and each is seasons just it just was
19:01
Speaker 2: there and in some cases most cases that this team
19:05
Speaker 2: didn't handle it very well. And you know, and I said,
19:08
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't necessarily mean it has to be
19:11
Speaker 2: like that every time. History is the history with this team,
19:15
Speaker 2: and it has something to do maybe with just the
19:18
Speaker 2: mood of this town, the fan base in this town,
19:20
Speaker 2: the interest level, the media that just if something goes
19:24
Speaker 2: wrong then it just turns into a total meltdown. And
19:30
Speaker 2: you know, right now we're sort of sitting on that precipice.
19:33
Speaker 2: Now at four and two, you're not eliminated from anything.
19:38
Speaker 2: At four and two, you're still in a position where
19:40
Speaker 2: you can certainly salvage this season. And it would be
19:44
Speaker 2: fair to say, look at where they were last year
19:47
Speaker 2: at two and two and how bad everything looked, and
19:50
Speaker 2: they turned it around and they won the Super Bowl.
19:52
Speaker 2: And if you want to be glass half full, say
19:55
Speaker 2: this same team same coaching staff. You know, they were
19:57
Speaker 2: kind of here last year and they straightened it out.
20:00
Speaker 2: Well maybe that's so, but I'm not feeling that right now.
20:05
Speaker 2: You know, I mean six games in Derek, they still
20:08
Speaker 2: haven't played a complete game yet. Now six games now,
20:11
Speaker 2: you've been outgained in every game. And I'm not necessarily
20:14
Speaker 2: believing that every answer is in the stat sheet. Some
20:17
Speaker 2: of them are. And if you look around the league
20:20
Speaker 2: where this team ranks offensively, you know, twenty first, twenty fifth,
20:24
Speaker 2: twenty third. I mean, it's not an accident that they
20:28
Speaker 2: are where they are right now, and they got to
20:30
Speaker 2: come up with some answers, and they don't have a
20:32
Speaker 2: whole hell of a lot of time to find them.
20:34
Speaker 1: You know, we applauded this defense in particular for its
20:38
Speaker 1: tackling prowess. You know, a bunch of shore tacklers. But
20:41
Speaker 1: we watched this rookie named Cam Skataboo nineteen carries ninety
20:45
Speaker 1: eight yards three touchdowns run through this Eagles defense like
20:50
Speaker 1: Swiss cheese. It was like the Eagles are never practiced
20:53
Speaker 1: tackling a At one point, right to me, it looked
20:56
Speaker 1: like they wanted no parts of hitting this guy because
20:58
Speaker 1: he was bowling over. I saw him at you know,
21:01
Speaker 1: Zach Bond on the sideline at one time, going down
21:03
Speaker 1: the sideline, and I said to myself, it cam, Remember,
21:07
Speaker 1: Zach's got a family to feed. Now, man, take it
21:09
Speaker 1: a little easy on. But man, that kid lowered his shoulder.
21:12
Speaker 1: When I watched him run ray, it reminded me of
21:15
Speaker 1: three players in particular, John Riggins, Larry Zanka Mike Alstadt,
21:22
Speaker 1: because that kid was inflicting pain on this Eagles defense
21:25
Speaker 1: all night long.
21:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I mean, well,
21:33
Speaker 2: we've seen Zach Bonn is a good player. I mean,
21:37
Speaker 2: finalist for Defensive Player of the Year last year. I mean,
21:39
Speaker 2: he's no chump, no club but this but this kid
21:44
Speaker 2: knocked him halfway to exit sixteen W in the turnpike
21:48
Speaker 2: and that won't carry. Now, I had not I had
21:51
Speaker 2: never seen that before. I had never seen that before. Yeah,
21:56
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, they made they made Scott a Boo
22:00
Speaker 2: looked like Zanka, the reincarnation of Zanka. And they made
22:04
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart in his third start look like Roger Staubach.
22:07
Speaker 2: You know. And what's really disturbing about this is, I mean,
22:13
Speaker 2: you see all the celebrating and and I'm geez. I mean,
22:16
Speaker 2: if you read the New York papers now, it's we're
22:20
Speaker 2: we might never lose another game with these guys. I mean, hey, guys,
22:23
Speaker 2: the previous Sunday you couldn't beat the Saints. Let's get
22:27
Speaker 2: real here, what are we really talking about? I mean,
22:29
Speaker 2: what kind of team are they? Do we think that
22:31
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Brian Dable became the second coming
22:33
Speaker 2: of Shula. I mean it's it just I think the
22:37
Speaker 2: way the Eagles played and they basically walked in there
22:40
Speaker 2: like they didn't even feel like playing that night. I
22:43
Speaker 2: think they contributed more to what happened there than what
22:46
Speaker 2: the Giants did. And that's that, to me, is the
22:49
Speaker 2: really disturbing part. And the other thing, and this is
22:51
Speaker 2: this is like a sidebar. Okay, that's a personal thing.
22:56
Speaker 2: But you're in the Super Bowl Champs. Okay, you're on
23:00
Speaker 2: a national TV primetime game and you're getting humiliated by
23:05
Speaker 2: these guys. I mean this wasn't just that they were
23:08
Speaker 2: beating you on the scoreboard. I mean they're summersaulting and
23:12
Speaker 2: cartwheeling and you guys are dancing in the end zone
23:14
Speaker 2: and they're laughing at you on the sidelines, where's your pride,
23:21
Speaker 2: Where's where's where's the little show of something that hey,
23:23
Speaker 2: you know, okay, you can win the game, but don't
23:27
Speaker 2: show me up, okay, And they and the whole second
23:30
Speaker 2: half of that game, that's all. That was, every single play.
23:35
Speaker 2: And I wish I had seen a little more fight
23:38
Speaker 2: in this team in the second half, you know, instead
23:41
Speaker 2: instead of just completely was mailing it in in the
23:43
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. I would have liked to see this team
23:45
Speaker 2: sort of stand up and say, hey, you know, we're
23:47
Speaker 2: the champs, all right, show us a little respect. And
23:50
Speaker 2: there was there was none of that. Now, in two weeks,
23:55
Speaker 2: that team is going to come into the link and
23:58
Speaker 2: play the Eagles again. We still have another game to
24:01
Speaker 2: play before that. But I wonder if you're, if you're
24:05
Speaker 2: the Eagles coaches, that week leading up to that game,
24:10
Speaker 2: I'm going to make I would make this team watch
24:12
Speaker 2: that film every day. I agree, say, look what these
24:16
Speaker 2: guys did to you. Look what these guys did to
24:18
Speaker 2: you in national television. Look at look at the celebrations,
24:21
Speaker 2: Look at the I mean they showed you up to
24:24
Speaker 2: the whole country, you know, and now they're coming in here.
24:26
Speaker 2: Now this is payback.
24:28
Speaker 1: Time.
24:28
Speaker 2: Now, let's see. Now, they still got another game to
24:30
Speaker 2: play between now and then with the Vikings. They got
24:33
Speaker 2: to get in and out of Minnesota and try and
24:35
Speaker 2: get this thing right. But I kind of want to
24:37
Speaker 2: see if there's just a little something extra that the
24:39
Speaker 2: Eagles have for the Giants when they can when they
24:42
Speaker 2: come into Philly, because they got it handed to them
24:44
Speaker 2: big time in an embarrassing fashion. And if you're a
24:47
Speaker 2: real championship team, I mean you get the stuff of
24:50
Speaker 2: real champions which really that pride factor. You better see
24:55
Speaker 2: it and you better see it soon.
24:57
Speaker 1: Where was the pass rush? I mean this at Jackson
25:00
Speaker 1: Dark every time they got close to him, he would
25:03
Speaker 1: step up and take off. I'm thinking the second coming
25:05
Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield, you know you said Roger Staalbeck. I'm
25:09
Speaker 1: thinking this is like Baker Baker Mayfield part part two.
25:12
Speaker 1: Uh Sadarius Smith, if memory serves me right, it is
25:16
Speaker 1: still the only edge rusher with the sack for this
25:18
Speaker 1: team through through six games. Where's the containment? Where's the
25:22
Speaker 1: pass rush on these guys? And especially a guy making
25:25
Speaker 1: his third start in professional football. I mean you, this
25:29
Speaker 1: kid was comfortable back there, and a few times you
25:32
Speaker 1: made him uncomfortably found a way to escape and make
25:35
Speaker 1: a positive game. And I'm thinking, Okay, even without Jalen Carter,
25:40
Speaker 1: you have enough talent on that defense, not just in
25:43
Speaker 1: your trenches, but your front seven to get some kind
25:46
Speaker 1: of pressure. I thought Fangio would thoroughly confuse this kid.
25:50
Speaker 1: This kid made Fangio's defense look like a bunch of
25:53
Speaker 1: a rangamuffin defense.
25:55
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I kind of felt the same thing. I
25:59
Speaker 2: kind of expected that this would be like reminiscent of
26:04
Speaker 2: one of the old Jim Johnson kinds of games back
26:06
Speaker 2: in the past, when Jim Johnson was calling defensive signals
26:09
Speaker 2: and every time they played a rookie or a second
26:11
Speaker 2: year quarterback, you know, Jim just tied the kid in knots,
26:14
Speaker 2: and I kind of thought Fi would do the same thing.
26:17
Speaker 2: Certainly didn't. I mean, Dart was in complete control, and
26:23
Speaker 2: they never in the pass rush. They just seemed completely
26:26
Speaker 2: incapable of containing him. I mean there was no I
26:29
Speaker 2: mean every time he wanted to, every time he wanted
26:32
Speaker 2: to get out of the pocket, the back door was
26:34
Speaker 2: always open. They never recounted for that, and that was
26:38
Speaker 2: that was very disturbing. I think one of the factors
26:41
Speaker 2: that contributes to some of this now and we've seen
26:45
Speaker 2: it now in the second half of some games. Is
26:48
Speaker 2: the defense just melts, you know, I mean at fourth
26:51
Speaker 2: quarter of the Denver game, certainly second half of this game.
26:55
Speaker 2: And I think some of it is is part of
26:58
Speaker 2: the fact that the offense is going three and out
27:00
Speaker 2: on every series, you know, and so look how many minutes,
27:04
Speaker 2: Look how many minutes the defense is playing. And right now,
27:08
Speaker 2: with the injury factor, they're not very deep. They don't
27:11
Speaker 2: have a whole lot of bodies out there on the defense.
27:13
Speaker 2: So the guys that are playing are playing. If the
27:15
Speaker 2: offense is three and out, three and out, three and out,
27:17
Speaker 2: which they have been to a great with great regularity lately,
27:21
Speaker 2: then that puts more pressure on the defense, and right
27:24
Speaker 2: now they don't have the bodies to handle that. So
27:27
Speaker 2: you know, what kind of what the stuff you're seeing
27:29
Speaker 2: in the second half and in the fourth quarter a
27:31
Speaker 2: lot of these games is maybe just the attrition factor.
27:33
Speaker 2: I think the Giants, I think I counted, I think
27:35
Speaker 2: the Giants ran sixty seven plays or something in this game.
27:38
Speaker 2: And again, what's more upsetting and worrisome about it is
27:43
Speaker 2: how bad they looked in New Orleans four days ago.
27:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, five turnovers.
27:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this isn't a team, a young team
27:51
Speaker 2: with some young players that you see we say, oh man,
27:53
Speaker 2: they're coming on, boy, you can see it coming.
27:57
Speaker 1: No.
27:58
Speaker 2: I certainly didn't see that in New Orleans. I mean
28:01
Speaker 2: when I saw in New Orleans was a lot of
28:03
Speaker 2: a young team, a lot of young players who were
28:05
Speaker 2: making young young player dumb mistakes. And four days later,
28:09
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they've become the reincarnation of the
28:11
Speaker 2: Parcels Giants. It was, you know, right now, I wish
28:17
Speaker 2: I had a better handle on what this team is.
28:20
Speaker 2: If the one question I've been asking myself since Thursday,
28:26
Speaker 2: and it was a very basic question. It began occurring
28:28
Speaker 2: to me during the game watching. It was, man, what
28:32
Speaker 2: does this team do well? If you were to ask
28:35
Speaker 2: me what, you know, well, yeah, but they but they
28:38
Speaker 2: can really they do this really well. What do they
28:41
Speaker 2: do well? Right now?
28:43
Speaker 1: They?
28:43
Speaker 2: You know, did they run the ball? Well? No, the
28:47
Speaker 2: passing game comes and goes. Defensively, you can't stop the run.
28:53
Speaker 2: I mean, and that's been ongoing all this year. If
28:56
Speaker 2: teams want to run the ball on them, they can.
28:59
Speaker 2: And I was with Mitchell out. They can't cover anybody
29:02
Speaker 2: in the second and they can't return a kick, you know.
29:06
Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing you would say right now,
29:10
Speaker 2: if you're going to say, what do they do well?
29:12
Speaker 2: Right now? They have a good punter and their placekicker
29:17
Speaker 2: is perfect in field goals. That's it. I mean, everything
29:21
Speaker 2: else is what they do that, No, they don't. Frankly,
29:25
Speaker 2: they don't. And when that's the case, then to begin
29:28
Speaker 2: turning something around, you need to have something to build on,
29:31
Speaker 2: you know, And right now, you tell me what that is,
29:35
Speaker 2: I don't see it.
29:37
Speaker 1: I have no answer. Ring you touched on Elane Johnson
29:40
Speaker 1: a little bit ago, Who's who's still one of the best,
29:44
Speaker 1: if not the best, right tackle in auto pro football,
29:46
Speaker 1: and I think we would agree a future Hall of Famer.
29:49
Speaker 1: But Ray, I never thought I would be saying this.
29:51
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is a major problem in
29:54
Speaker 1: terms of both run blocking and pass protection at this point.
29:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is. If you ask me where
30:02
Speaker 2: what is the biggest problem right now or where does
30:04
Speaker 2: you know where does this all start? I would probably
30:07
Speaker 2: say the offensive line. I would probably say the offensive
30:09
Speaker 2: line because if you think about the offense, I mean,
30:14
Speaker 2: you got the same quarterback, got the same running back,
30:17
Speaker 2: same set of receivers. The so called skill positions are
30:20
Speaker 2: all the same guys that just won you a Super Bowl.
30:22
Speaker 2: So what's the big difference here? Biggest difference is the
30:25
Speaker 2: offensive line. And I mean the offensive line was really
30:29
Speaker 2: the strength of this team for the last several years.
30:33
Speaker 2: You know, it all kind of started there, and right
30:36
Speaker 2: now the offensive line not very good. I mean the
30:40
Speaker 2: interior of the line. I mean, and we've said it before,
30:42
Speaker 2: Dickerson has been playing through a lot of injuries. Now
30:44
Speaker 2: he finally can't play and he might be out for
30:47
Speaker 2: a little while, I think. And so on the interior,
30:51
Speaker 2: you got Steen who's still trying to figure it out.
30:52
Speaker 2: Jurgens who is not played well. I think he's I
30:56
Speaker 2: think he's still dealing with back issues. Dickerson has been heard.
31:00
Speaker 2: Now you're playing with backups there. So the interior of
31:03
Speaker 2: the line has had issues throughout. Lane has had the
31:07
Speaker 2: stinger which has had him on and off the field,
31:10
Speaker 2: and my lotta had played well, but you know, he
31:14
Speaker 2: even had a tough night Thursday night. I mean, Burns
31:17
Speaker 2: beat him a couple times in uncharacteristic ways. So yeah,
31:21
Speaker 2: I mean that to me is the biggest area. I mean,
31:24
Speaker 2: they Saquon Barkley to me, looks like the same player
31:27
Speaker 2: he was a year ago, but he's just not getting
31:30
Speaker 2: The offensive line is not getting to push, and defenses
31:34
Speaker 2: just seemed to know. And maybe this gets back to
31:36
Speaker 2: Lane's statement about predictability defenses. They seem to be ready
31:41
Speaker 2: for everything the Eagles are trying right now, and you
31:44
Speaker 2: know within the games when there is a moment when
31:48
Speaker 2: the Eagles could make a play, they could maybe turn
31:50
Speaker 2: the tide of the game. Two weeks in a row,
31:53
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts has missed a wide open receiver that could
31:57
Speaker 2: have been, that could have been, that should have been
31:59
Speaker 2: a touchdo down, that maybe could have turned the game
32:01
Speaker 2: in your favor. And two weeks in a row. One
32:03
Speaker 2: week he misses Brown and in this week he clearly
32:06
Speaker 2: misses Smith.
32:09
Speaker 1: Ray. This Eagles offense, as inconsistent and mediocre as it
32:14
Speaker 1: has been, was going up against the twenty sixth ranked
32:18
Speaker 1: defense in the National Football League, a defense that gave
32:22
Speaker 1: up one hundred and thirty yards a game rushing and
32:25
Speaker 1: almost twenty five and a half points per game. And
32:28
Speaker 1: for the second game in a row, they're held to
32:30
Speaker 1: seventeen points. And I think it goes with we talk
32:37
Speaker 1: about the offensive line being a major problem, but we
32:39
Speaker 1: cannot overlook the quarterback situation. I mean that out route
32:44
Speaker 1: he threw the Dotson. You couldn't have telegraphed the pass
32:47
Speaker 1: any worse, and he had a j wide open in
32:50
Speaker 1: the middle of the field was a sure six. He
32:53
Speaker 1: has missed receivers time and time again, and I don't
32:56
Speaker 1: understand how do you go from the Super Bowl performing
33:00
Speaker 1: that he had MVP performance that he had in a
33:03
Speaker 1: Super Bowl to what we've watched now consistently over six games.
33:09
Speaker 1: He's he's missing receivers. He's like he locks in on
33:12
Speaker 1: one guy and that's it. In very seldom has he,
33:16
Speaker 1: except for maybe one game, found that second or third
33:19
Speaker 1: option in a game. M Yeah.
33:22
Speaker 2: I think part of it is that he doesn't have
33:26
Speaker 2: the same level of confidence in the guys up front
33:30
Speaker 2: wow that he's does. He doesn't over the last especially
33:34
Speaker 2: last year, he just felt so confident in his protections
33:39
Speaker 2: that he went back and when he had the ball,
33:42
Speaker 2: it was he just he had in his mental clock
33:46
Speaker 2: here he felt like I got time. I got time
33:48
Speaker 2: to go through one, two, three and make the decision
33:52
Speaker 2: of where's the place to put the ball, and he
33:54
Speaker 2: was right most of the time. This year, I just
33:59
Speaker 2: think it's the whole process has changed, because he doesn't
34:02
Speaker 2: have the same belief in the guys in front of him,
34:05
Speaker 2: even when the pressure isn't there. And there were even
34:09
Speaker 2: if the offensive line didn't play well Thursday night, for sure,
34:12
Speaker 2: there were some moments in there in terms of pass
34:14
Speaker 2: protection where he had a lot of time and he
34:17
Speaker 2: still didn't look comfortable to me. Uh. And then there
34:20
Speaker 2: were more often than that he seemed hurried and just
34:25
Speaker 2: taking the first taking the first option, making up his
34:28
Speaker 2: mind coming out of the huddle. Okay, I'm going to
34:30
Speaker 2: go here. The dots in play is a perfect example.
34:34
Speaker 2: I mean, he has aja wide open coming across the middle,
34:37
Speaker 2: and he forces a ball to the outside and throws it,
34:41
Speaker 2: throws it late, you know, and which you can't throw
34:44
Speaker 2: an out late because it's usually going to happen that way,
34:47
Speaker 2: and he puts it in the wrong spot. You know,
34:50
Speaker 2: he's throwing back shoulder on a guy running away from him,
34:53
Speaker 2: which he knows better than that. That ball's got to
34:56
Speaker 2: be out in front where the receivers the only ones
34:59
Speaker 2: got a shot at it there. I mean, you could
35:02
Speaker 2: do a whole seminar on everything that went wrong on
35:04
Speaker 2: that play. And I think that when you're kind of
35:08
Speaker 2: in the in where they are right now, where again,
35:12
Speaker 2: I go back to what Johnson said, I do think
35:13
Speaker 2: they're very predictable. I think they're predictable in their play calling.
35:16
Speaker 2: I think they're easy that they're easy to read by formation. Uh,
35:20
Speaker 2: there's not much variation to it. I mean, my goodness,
35:24
Speaker 2: I mean, every single play is in the shotgun. I mean,
35:30
Speaker 2: can you can you do something else once in a while,
35:33
Speaker 2: you know, I mean put them under center some I mean,
35:35
Speaker 2: and every time he's under center, you get the feeling
35:37
Speaker 2: he's just going to hand off. Defenses seem to be
35:40
Speaker 2: key or where Barkley lines up. Every time they go pistol,
35:44
Speaker 2: they run the ball, and then you're just locked into
35:47
Speaker 2: this shotgun formation where it just I mean, it just
35:51
Speaker 2: seems like they're stuck in the mud. And when you're
35:56
Speaker 2: kind of where they are right now, there are things
35:58
Speaker 2: that you could do as a coaching staff. You could
35:59
Speaker 2: take a lot of the tendencies. If indeed they are
36:01
Speaker 2: predictable and teams have a book on what they're doing,
36:04
Speaker 2: which that's sort of what Johnson is alluding to. Okay,
36:09
Speaker 2: let's make that work to our advantage. Let's give people
36:11
Speaker 2: that look and then do something else. You know, if
36:15
Speaker 2: they're really key and on this look and they expect
36:17
Speaker 2: that they know based on tendencies, okay, this wormation every
36:21
Speaker 2: time they do this, then do something else. Okay. There's
36:24
Speaker 2: a way of taking this and working work to your
36:27
Speaker 2: advantage by being a little creative. And I think this
36:31
Speaker 2: is you know, you talk about this as a mini buy.
36:34
Speaker 2: I mean, they had a weekend off. I mean they
36:36
Speaker 2: have a lot of they have a lot of thinking
36:39
Speaker 2: and a lot of planning to do here to get
36:42
Speaker 2: this thing turned around. But you got to get it
36:45
Speaker 2: turned around quick because a couple of losses like this,
36:49
Speaker 2: this kind of thinking snowball on you, you know, and
36:51
Speaker 2: they have to got to get out in front of
36:54
Speaker 2: this now. Over these next couple of games. Should they
36:56
Speaker 2: beat the Vikings in Minnesota? Yeah, absolutely they should. Should
36:59
Speaker 2: they beat the Giant back here? No question? But you know,
37:02
Speaker 2: I mean, look what happened Thursday night, and then you
37:04
Speaker 2: get to the buy and then you come out of
37:06
Speaker 2: the buy and you got green Bay and green Bay
37:08
Speaker 2: and you got Detroit, who are both really good teams.
37:10
Speaker 2: So you've got a couple of weeks to kind of
37:12
Speaker 2: get this thing right. But you don't have any time
37:15
Speaker 2: to waste. I mean, they got to get this thing
37:16
Speaker 2: back on track pronto.
37:18
Speaker 1: Speaking of turning things around, the kick return game is
37:22
Speaker 1: a disaster right now. I think the Tank Bigsby experiment
37:27
Speaker 1: is over. But who do you put back there? I mean,
37:28
Speaker 1: because they are constantly being put in bad field position
37:32
Speaker 1: to start drives, and right now, while the offense struggles,
37:36
Speaker 1: there's basically no way of getting themselves out of this.
37:38
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know who or how
37:41
Speaker 1: you fix the return game. Who's the answer back there?
37:44
Speaker 3: Sports are all about competition. Every snap, every possession, every
37:49
Speaker 3: clutch moment matters. That same energy is what one v
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think Bixby's is not that's you know,
39:57
Speaker 2: I mean that's one of those ncs that acquisition that
40:00
Speaker 2: Howie would probably like to have back. You give them
40:03
Speaker 2: two picks for that guy, so they yeah, I mean
40:07
Speaker 2: that's and there's another side to that whole thing is, yeah,
40:11
Speaker 2: their kick return game has been terrible and has been
40:14
Speaker 2: costing the field position. I mean, how many drives they
40:17
Speaker 2: are starting at the fifteen or inside. But on the
40:22
Speaker 2: other side of it, you know, your kick coverage hadn't
40:25
Speaker 2: been that great. You know, the teams are returning the
40:28
Speaker 2: ball routinely thirty thirty five, and meanwhile you're starting your
40:33
Speaker 2: drives at the twelve. You know, I mean, Siriana use
40:38
Speaker 2: the term hidden yards in the kicking game. You know,
40:41
Speaker 2: those kinds of things, and coaches talk about that all
40:44
Speaker 2: the time. It's not a small thing. If the other
40:48
Speaker 2: teams every time they return a kickoff, they're getting it
40:50
Speaker 2: out to damn near the forty, you're starting inside your
40:54
Speaker 2: own twenty. That's not a small thing. I mean, and
40:58
Speaker 2: we have now seen that pretty much every single week.
41:02
Speaker 2: And that's something else. I mean, they got a million
41:04
Speaker 2: things to clean up on offensive defense, we know that,
41:06
Speaker 2: but on the specialty's part of it, I mean they
41:09
Speaker 2: have to deal with that too. I mean, this is
41:11
Speaker 2: a field position game, and right now the Eagles are
41:14
Speaker 2: losing the battle of field position.
41:16
Speaker 1: Now, after this putrid performance by the Eagles, U and
41:20
Speaker 1: I hate to bring this to light, but I think
41:22
Speaker 1: he does warrant mentioning our favorite, our favorite target. AJ
41:28
Speaker 1: Brown stands in front of the media, and of course
41:30
Speaker 1: they asked him about the so called meeting that took
41:33
Speaker 1: place between him, Saquon and Jalen Hurts, and he says,
41:38
Speaker 1: I don't recall a meeting. Now, he said, a kind
41:41
Speaker 1: of tongue in cheek when you look at him. I'm
41:43
Speaker 1: trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. But
41:45
Speaker 1: he stood there and vehemently denied that there was a meeting,
41:49
Speaker 1: heels I don't know what they're talking about, and Jalen
41:51
Speaker 1: confirmed there was a meeting. Why does this guy continue
41:55
Speaker 1: to unnecessarily bring attention to himself? Right? I just don't
41:58
Speaker 1: get it with this guy.
42:00
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I don't either. I understand his frustration. I
42:05
Speaker 2: I understand how he's feeling, you know. I mean this
42:10
Speaker 2: is one of those deals where, uh, it doesn't help anybody.
42:17
Speaker 2: It doesn't help anybody. I mean all this sort of
42:19
Speaker 2: passive aggressive stuff, you know, all this you know, cryptic
42:25
Speaker 2: kinds of messages and communication. You got enough things to
42:29
Speaker 2: figure out right now with the ex's that those without
42:32
Speaker 2: trying to read the tea leaves with him every week.
42:35
Speaker 2: But that's kind of where you are. And I mean
42:38
Speaker 2: that's part of that's obviously part of his personality. I
42:42
Speaker 2: mean he's obviously and like a lot of young players,
42:45
Speaker 2: did nothing unique about this. I mean he is really
42:48
Speaker 2: he really lives on social media, which you know, I
42:52
Speaker 2: don't get it, but I know that's for guys of
42:55
Speaker 2: a certain age that that's the thing. But there are
42:59
Speaker 2: ways to use it to your advantage, and then there
43:01
Speaker 2: are ways to use that that can causion more problems.
43:04
Speaker 2: And I think he tends to cross over that line
43:06
Speaker 2: too much. The guy that I'm looking at now and
43:10
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm waiting for him to go off, and
43:13
Speaker 2: I know it's not his nature, but a couple more
43:16
Speaker 2: weeks and it will. It is Deafante Smith.
43:18
Speaker 1: I agree.
43:19
Speaker 2: I mean, you can kind of see with the way
43:21
Speaker 2: he's answering questions now that I mean he doesn't want
43:24
Speaker 2: to go there. I mean, he's not a guy that
43:26
Speaker 2: wants to be in the middle of any controversy. That's
43:28
Speaker 2: just that's just not him. And you know, probably a
43:32
Speaker 2: little part of it was he played for Saban at Alabama,
43:35
Speaker 2: with Saban's whole thing about that's the rat poison, stay
43:37
Speaker 2: away from it. I think that's part of it. But
43:39
Speaker 2: I also think that's his nature. He just wants to play.
43:42
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to deal with any of the nonsense.
43:45
Speaker 2: But you can see the frustration in his face. Even
43:49
Speaker 2: though he's getting his touches and he's getting his yards
43:51
Speaker 2: and had a pretty good game with Thursday, he's very
43:54
Speaker 2: frustrated with where they are too. And if this thing
43:58
Speaker 2: continues down this road right now, I think you're going
44:01
Speaker 2: to be hearing from him pretty soon. Too.
44:03
Speaker 1: One final thing, Ray, because you brought this to my
44:06
Speaker 1: attention and I think it warrants a discussion, is during
44:10
Speaker 1: the game, we saw the camera's ISO on Giants head
44:13
Speaker 1: coach Brian Dabele and Jackson Dark goes into the medical
44:18
Speaker 1: tent to get checked for a concussion, and Dabell is
44:21
Speaker 1: just undressing, verbally undressing the doctor on the sideline. Right,
44:25
Speaker 1: I'll get my guy back in here. That's not a
44:28
Speaker 1: good look for a head coach. Ray that's appeared to
44:33
Speaker 1: be more concerned about the player getting back in the
44:36
Speaker 1: field than he was his health. Now, he apologized after
44:38
Speaker 1: the game, but the damage is already done.
44:41
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, uh And you know, I mean what he's
44:45
Speaker 2: basically telling is like I've seen enough of Russell Wilson. Okay,
44:49
Speaker 2: get him out of there, get him, get him out
44:51
Speaker 2: of the tent, and get him on the field. I
44:53
Speaker 2: mean that's what he's saying. Yeah, I mean. And Dable
44:55
Speaker 2: tried to say after the game, Well, all I did
44:57
Speaker 2: is I stuck my head in the tent. Just ask
44:59
Speaker 2: Callie's do as the kid asked my player how he's doing.
45:02
Speaker 2: You can't do that. The rules that you can't do
45:05
Speaker 2: that in that tent. No coaches and no other players
45:08
Speaker 2: are in there. It's just the doctors and the trainers
45:11
Speaker 2: are the only ones in there. So you know what
45:15
Speaker 2: that says to me is I hate to say this,
45:20
Speaker 2: but it's you know, the coaches. A lot of the
45:26
Speaker 2: coaches are in the league talk a good game when
45:28
Speaker 2: it comes to the CTE thing. Yeah, you know, I'm
45:30
Speaker 2: concerned about my players players safety is that is foremost
45:34
Speaker 2: in my mind. I'm always thinking about my players and
45:36
Speaker 2: their welfare. No, you're not. You're thinking about games. And
45:42
Speaker 2: what you saw on Thursday was exactly that. Brian Dable
45:46
Speaker 2: he wanted Jackson Dark back on the field.
45:49
Speaker 1: Uh.
45:50
Speaker 2: And he went in the tent and I guarantee you
45:52
Speaker 2: that's what he said in there. And then when the
45:55
Speaker 2: doctor came out and was telling him we're not done
45:57
Speaker 2: with our examination yet, he gave the doctor a earful
46:00
Speaker 2: You can't have that, Okay. If you're gonna if you're
46:04
Speaker 2: gonna be really true to this idea of making this
46:06
Speaker 2: a quote unquote safer game, then coaches can't be doing
46:10
Speaker 2: things like that. The rules are written to tell you
46:13
Speaker 2: what you can and can't do. Dable went over the
46:15
Speaker 2: way over the line and interestingly enough, I don't know
46:19
Speaker 2: if you saw it, but a day later, John Marat
46:22
Speaker 2: talked about it. Yep, you know, the Giants owner said,
46:25
Speaker 2: I think he used the term that it was inappropriate
46:29
Speaker 2: what what his head coach did? Uh, And I will
46:32
Speaker 2: tell you I know John. I know John Maraw well
46:35
Speaker 2: enough to know that. I think he is one of
46:38
Speaker 2: the people within the league who does who who does
46:42
Speaker 2: worry about this stuff. I think he is. And I
46:45
Speaker 2: don't mean just appearances, but I think he does worry
46:48
Speaker 2: about players welfare. I think he I think he would
46:50
Speaker 2: go the extra mile in terms of player safety. I
46:53
Speaker 2: think it is. I think it is something he's very
46:56
Speaker 2: sensitive to. Uh. And even coming off this tremendous win,
47:00
Speaker 2: which was great for their organization, all that stuff, he
47:03
Speaker 2: had no problem when asked about it to publicly say, yes,
47:08
Speaker 2: what the coach did there was inappropriate and it was
47:12
Speaker 2: And you know, this is something that's going to get
47:14
Speaker 2: I mean, the Players Association is going to get involved
47:18
Speaker 2: and this is not going to go away. I mean
47:20
Speaker 2: this is going to be talked about because what happened
47:23
Speaker 2: and then what got on TV and what people saw
47:26
Speaker 2: is that is not the message that the league or
47:29
Speaker 2: that the league or the Coaches Association wants to put
47:32
Speaker 2: out there.
47:33
Speaker 1: Well, it appeared for most of this game like the
47:36
Speaker 1: Eagles were playing like they all had concussions on both
47:39
Speaker 1: sides of the football. And hopefully they come out of
47:41
Speaker 1: it in time to get it right against the Minnesota Vikings.
47:44
Speaker 1: And of course Ray and I will be here to
47:46
Speaker 1: break it all down for you next week. So until
47:49
Speaker 1: next week, this has been Bird's Weekly, presented by the
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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds Network for my friend Ray didn't drum,
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Speaker 1: Derek Gunn. We'll see you next time, everybody, hopefully with
47:58
Speaker 1: better results.
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