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ITB: How Marquise Brown's Signing Impacts The Overall Eagles WR Room · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside. The Birds is back. What's up, everybody. It's Jeff Bocher,
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: It's Adam Kapp and we're in the middle of the week,
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks in the free agency, and the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles have made another move. It's an interesting one, Adam.
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  Speaker 1: They we've talked quite a bit about whether or not
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  Speaker 1: a J. Brown stays or goes is really irregardless to
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  Speaker 1: the depth issue that the Eagles have at wide receiver,
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  Speaker 1: especially with Johan Dotson leaving to go sign with the Falcons.
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  Speaker 1: We mentioned that after the two starters Brown and DeVante Smith,
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at like Darius Cooper, Johnny Wilson, Britton Covey,
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  Speaker 1: just a bunch of guys who are not ready to
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  Speaker 1: be the number three receiver. So the Eagles go and
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  Speaker 1: sign Hollywood Brown Marquise for those who know him, also
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  Speaker 1: to a one year deal. I think it's an interesting signing.
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  Speaker 1: We'll discuss it. That clearly needed some bodies at the
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  Speaker 1: position wardless of whether or not a J. Brown is
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  Speaker 1: going to be on team. They needed guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go inside. Really, what's happening here? So this
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  Speaker 2: signing has twofold in terms of meaning in what could happen.
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  Speaker 2: So if they traded aj Brown, they've gone inshurance policy.
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  Speaker 2: If they cannot get anyone else who's experienced or in
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  Speaker 2: a first round pick, they have Hollywood Brown, who's been
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  Speaker 2: a starter for a lot of his career. He's had
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  Speaker 2: an odd career in that he was the first round
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  Speaker 2: pick of the Ravens in twenty nineteen. He had the
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  Speaker 2: List franc injury, so he couldn't run at the combine.
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  Speaker 2: But everyone at scottam know he was super explosive, averaged
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  Speaker 2: almost nineteen yards of catch. Who's at Oklahoma for two years,
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  Speaker 2: and you know he kind of wanted out of Baltimore.
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  Speaker 2: He wanted to get the Baltimore You know, Baltimore was
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  Speaker 2: a run first offense. This is his last year in Baltimore,
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  Speaker 2: ironically was his best year. And then he gets traded
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  Speaker 2: to Arizona. Then and then la Mark Jackson becomes a
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  Speaker 2: better Passer's kind of funny how things work out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd be careful what you ask for exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And he's with the Kyler Murray, who you just don't
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  Speaker 2: know for one game the next what you're getting spectacular.
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  Speaker 2: Then he's all over the place, runs around, doesn't throw
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  Speaker 2: the football and his numbers dipped. He had one thousand
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  Speaker 2: year season. That was his last year with the Ravens.
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  Speaker 2: He turns twenty nine. He says about he's basically the
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  Speaker 2: same age as as AJ Brown. A J. Brown obviously
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  Speaker 2: way better, but it gives Hi an insurance pouse for
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  Speaker 2: someone who started. When you see the deals up to
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  Speaker 2: six five point five million, it's not only less than that,
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  Speaker 2: it could be significantly less. We'll get the terms and
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  Speaker 2: we'll we'll explain what they mean when we get when
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  Speaker 2: we get the full breakdown.
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  Speaker 3: But it's insurance, or it's if some reason A J.
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  Speaker 2: Brown doesn't get traded and won't have to do it now,
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  Speaker 2: they if they want to save that that cast space,
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  Speaker 2: doing it on June second would make the most sense,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll see what We'll see what the Patriots say
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  Speaker 2: about that leading up to the draft.
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  Speaker 3: But they have the insurance policy.
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  Speaker 2: If Brown's gone AJ that is, or if he's back.
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  Speaker 3: He's their third receiver. And as you said, we move
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  Speaker 3: this along here, do they need depth at receiver?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm just gonna clarify this because I know
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  Speaker 1: what you mean, but I don't want people to get confused.
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  Speaker 1: You in no way, and none of us are suggesting
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  Speaker 1: that an insurance policy means that you just slide Marquise
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  Speaker 1: Brown into the aj Brown spot and you're good to go.
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  Speaker 1: That obviously the Eagles will have a lot of work
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  Speaker 1: to do. Uh, he's a He's someone who I think
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  Speaker 1: has higher upside. I know has higher upside than Johan Dotson.
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  Speaker 1: He has blistering speed. I don't know if the injuries
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  Speaker 1: have taken some of that speed away. Obviously he's been
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  Speaker 1: in some wonky offenses. You mentioned Arizona, He went to
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City, got hurt there, and then he was involved,
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  Speaker 1: you know, last year with a team that had another
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  Speaker 1: speedy receiver in Uh, who's the kid from Texas that
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  Speaker 1: they got in Kansas City? What's it worthy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: She rice? So the fit was weird. I also see that.
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  Speaker 1: So again he comes here, I think as a chance
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  Speaker 1: he has a chance to give you more out of
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  Speaker 1: a number three receiver spot than you got from Han
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  Speaker 1: Dotson because he's a more talented receiver. But the Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: to me, Adam still with this offense like this is
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  Speaker 1: not your your archetype slot receiver that I felt like
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  Speaker 1: he may not play. There's really not a slot you.
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  Speaker 1: He has played there though. I mean, I know he lines.
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  Speaker 2: Up as a vertical slot. He's not a possession receiver.
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  Speaker 2: I know his numbers will fool you. Another part of
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  Speaker 2: this thing with Hollywood Brown has despite that incredible speed,
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  Speaker 2: talk about a guy who averaged well less than twelve
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  Speaker 2: years to catch for his career. Now we just outlined
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  Speaker 2: partially why because of the quarterbacks he played with, not
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  Speaker 2: great passers. That's part of it. Well, Lamar became a
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  Speaker 2: way better passer later as his career progressed. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a it's been an odd kind of thing
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  Speaker 2: for him. You know what I'm saying is he's a
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  Speaker 2: one year solution, right.
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  Speaker 3: If they trade a J.
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  Speaker 2: Brown and they can't get that guy in the first
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  Speaker 2: round or somebody else, He's an assurance policy for one
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  Speaker 2: season until you can figure it out long term.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, to your point, that's that this worst case scenario,
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  Speaker 1: if they trade a J. Brown and they can't get
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  Speaker 1: the they want in the draft, and you're going into
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  Speaker 1: the season with DeVante Smith and Hollywood Brown and Goddard
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  Speaker 1: as like your top three pass catchers, you're missing something
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  Speaker 1: like they would I would think Holly would have to
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  Speaker 1: be creative and try it at least to try to
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  Speaker 1: find somebody in the trade market or somewhere else to
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  Speaker 1: just get more talent at that position. If you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and trade AJ Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Well here's the reason why. Let's let's move this forward.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say this is why we were doing the show.
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  Speaker 3: Let's say A. J.
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  Speaker 2: Brown's traded, which is very realistic. Maybe on June second,
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  Speaker 2: but whatever. Let's say he's traded. Hollywood Brown steps in
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  Speaker 2: just to be a starter. Okay for one year, they'll
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  Speaker 2: figure out after that.
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  Speaker 3: Who's your three?
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  Speaker 2: Darius Cooper? Okay, Darres Cooper definitely showed some stuff. Is
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  Speaker 2: he really ready to step in that three at three
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  Speaker 2: year old?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Great? Unknown?
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  Speaker 3: If Hollywood Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Gets hurt and he's had an injury history, this is
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  Speaker 2: where you were going. Do you really want Darius Cooper
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  Speaker 2: to be the starter? I understand they're gona play a
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  Speaker 2: lot of twelve personnel. I'm sure that's happening. So's it's
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  Speaker 2: just I bet the house are gonna be heavy twelve
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  Speaker 2: personal team. But so what what happens if Hollywood Brown
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  Speaker 2: or Smith gets hurt? You know, DeVante doesn't get hurt
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  Speaker 2: a lot, But what if one of those guys can play?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: So, as a general manager where you're going here, as
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  Speaker 2: a decision maker, you have to look at scenarios, what happens.
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  Speaker 2: If there's just saying coaching, what is our answer. If
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  Speaker 2: you don't have an answer, you have nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Right you have have an answer.
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  Speaker 1: That was my thought when I was going through my
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  Speaker 1: head is that your your talent can dictate your personnel.
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  Speaker 1: Your personnel can capitalize on your talent. If they had
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  Speaker 1: to get a situation where they go into the year
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  Speaker 1: where DeVante Smith and Marquise Brown are clearly their top
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  Speaker 1: two receivers, then you're gonna have to play a lot
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  Speaker 1: of twelve personnel, and it's possible you wind up in
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  Speaker 1: the draft with a tight end that you really like
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  Speaker 1: instead of it. Let's say you get Sadik, Let's say
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  Speaker 1: you get the kid from Vanderbilt in the second round,
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  Speaker 1: or Clare, anybody, any of those kids. Let's say you
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  Speaker 1: like that tight end more than your number three receiver,
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  Speaker 1: Well then you've got an opportunity to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you wouldn't. But I'm going to disagree with you.
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  Speaker 2: You're not drafting for one year, you're drafting whoever you take.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I didn't suggest that you draft for that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you wind up not liking a receiver,
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  Speaker 1: but you love this tight end for the future, and
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  Speaker 1: he comes in and it does well in camp, then
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  Speaker 1: you have a reason to play more twelve personnel for this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting reaching. I'm just talking about letting your
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  Speaker 1: personnel dictate.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: What you're saying is your personnel will tell you what
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna play by performance, right right, what you see.
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  Speaker 3: I just Holly Brown was always a huge fan.
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  Speaker 2: I always have been, and he was sort of been
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  Speaker 2: a tease like you'd see some big plays, then you'd
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  Speaker 2: see these these short area throws. Sometimes it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes with scam scram all around, and he he didn't
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  Speaker 2: have the relationship that Tyreek Kill had with Mahomes and
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  Speaker 2: he didn't track the ball like Tyree could, because you
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  Speaker 2: know what, Mahomes, you gotta track the football. You gotta,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta, you gotta move in, you gotta you gotta
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  Speaker 2: move in, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta follow where
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes is going. And Hollywood Brown just didn't do it
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  Speaker 2: as as well as as uh Tyreek did. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's interesting sign.
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  Speaker 3: I think they had. That's something they had to do.
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  Speaker 3: Even if A. J. Brown's back. They need a third receiver,
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  Speaker 3: they need insurance policy. So yeah, it's good.
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  Speaker 2: But Darres Cooper, great training camp, great story in the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: This is a big offseason for him. This is this
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  Speaker 2: is something that depending on what happens with AJ Brown. Look,
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  Speaker 2: if they if Brown is, if AJ is traded, they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna need another receiver just for competition. Danny Gray can't
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  Speaker 2: count on him. Big injury history, Quest Watkins is, it's
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  Speaker 2: amazing he stolen.
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  Speaker 3: He's back.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a future deal. Covey's a slot really a
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  Speaker 2: punt returner and kick returner. Johnny Wilson major knee injury.
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  Speaker 2: They just don't have anyone. So they're gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: sign another receiver if that happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, if they had to play a game today
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  Speaker 1: Adam and they wanted to say run a little bit
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  Speaker 1: out of eleven personnel because you can't always run that
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  Speaker 1: a twell personnel and be telegraphic, then Cooper would be
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  Speaker 1: That was the role that he actually had last year
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  Speaker 1: in his very limited role was the slot receiver. In
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  Speaker 1: short yardage run situations, he would be out there on
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  Speaker 1: the twis bush. So right now, if they had to
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  Speaker 1: line up a play a game and wanted to run
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of eleven, you would see, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Davante and Marquis on the outsides and Dark and Darius
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  Speaker 1: Cooper in the inside, and there you go. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: what you would have to run. If you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: run the ball out of eleven, that's what it would
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  Speaker 1: look like. But there's a lot of work. There's work
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  Speaker 1: to be done here and Yar March. Yeah, yeah, we
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: always remind people the you know how he made the
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: trade for CJ. Gardner Johnson like on August thirty first, okay,
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: he signed with Garrett Blunt in like May or June like.
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  Speaker 1: He always makes very significant upgrades to the roster and
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: either free agency or trades all the way up to
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  Speaker 1: when the season being John Dotson a week before the
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  Speaker 1: season begins. So you can't discount that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Now.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing is though, when you wait, sometimes clubs
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  Speaker 2: know that you're desperate or I just can't believe that
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  Speaker 2: the goals gave It wasn't was it?
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  Speaker 3: Not a three for Dotson.
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  Speaker 1: It was and that's a really good example of when
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: you wait too long, you overpay. And we got it exactly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we said that at the time, by the way, and
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: people were like, no, the first round, Pad, He's great,
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: He's gonna come to Philly to do awesome. No, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I know he won a Super Bowl. I know he
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: made two big catches. How he could have gotten so
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: many guys in free agency that year in May that
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: caught fifteen to twenty passes that that dots and got.
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  Speaker 1: It was I get why he was aggressive. We're not
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: killing him, but that was an overpay for John Dottson there.
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: It was. We we outlined it.
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  Speaker 2: We told folks at the time of the acquisition that
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: the Commandos wanted Dotson off the roster. They just didn't
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: want the player. They didn't They just there was a
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: there was an issue with his effort. And it wasn't
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: a problem here though. He did a good yeah with
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: because Eagles are low volume throwing team, so he's gonna
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: have let low targets. Let they don't use the third
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: receiver very much, right, the third receivers are fourth pass target.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: That guy's not getting football right, but he did a
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: good joint. He had to fill in, and but did
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: he get a great contract. But on your point, Blunt
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  Speaker 2: signed May eighteenth, May eighteenth. His contract execution was May eighteenth,
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  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, that year when they won the Super Bowl,
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: and we talked about backed in in twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 2: his contract I have this, let me see.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta find it.
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  Speaker 1: That he signed the day after day three of the draft.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, contract execution, yes, on your point exactly May one,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: Because that's when you stop having your signings count against
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: the Coppic formula.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: Right right, right, right, it's comical. What's comical about this one?
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: At one year, two point seventy five million dollars, that's
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: with all the bonuses in it. Yeah, and he would
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: turn out to what when you when you told us
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: that he was going to play guard? I was like
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: almost fell over him, like are you sure about that?
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: And you were right.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: I was surprised when I was told he may never I'll.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Tell you what the value of Staltlin that that of
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: all of the Staltlin coaching, like just the results a
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: lot of my lot is number one. Nothing could touch
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: that because it's the guy was he never played football
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  Speaker 2: his life.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Becan's top five, maybe to top three.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah he yeah, you'd be be hard and then for
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  Speaker 1: him to go somewhere else and then not play well,
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: which you know, this is going off the rails a
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not quite sure why the Chargers, who
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: ran a lot of outside zone under a Greg Roman,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: really thought that Becton would be a good fit for them,
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: because the Eagles are an inside running team under under Staltlin,
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: they were a road grading guard type team. They weren't
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: a horizontal blocking team. They'll do a lot of outside stuff,
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what they thought. Maybe they just
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: figured they would pound the ball and he'd be fine
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  Speaker 1: with it. But that's not really how Greg Roman. Greg
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Roman likes to mix it up. But he does a
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  Speaker 1: lot of outside zone.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: He does a lot of stuff. Yeah, and he's now
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: with the Giants. He'll help Matt Naggot is on the
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: runking Becton. By the way, it just shows you you
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: got to understand contracts. So it was reported to years
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: for twenty million. I'm like, there's no way that's right.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: I remember you said that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like this is the total nonsense. He's not the
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: second year unless he plays well. He got cut, right,
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: but he did make ten million the first year. Yeah,
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: For you know. He he just he had a weird year.
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  Speaker 3: He had her injuries.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, he's most of his career other than with
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles, was marred by injury.
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  Speaker 3: And he got bench. He got his job back. He's
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  Speaker 3: being rotated in games.
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  Speaker 2: Like when an offensive lineman is being rotated in games,
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: that's that's a sign that the guy's not playing well.
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  Speaker 1: Right, good?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: All right? Last thing, you know you mentioned a j. Brown.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: We did talk about it. I mean Jayleen Waddle gets traded. Yeah,
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: how about the Denver Broncos? How about that? Yeah, Bronco's
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: clearly laying it all on the table here because you know,
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: they probably feel like they should have beaten the Patriots.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Obviously if they had knicks, they probably would have. But
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: their offense was wonky all year long. It really did miss.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: I like Courtland Sutton a lot. I think he's the
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: perfect guy to pair though with a vertical threat dimension
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: that Jaylen Waddle is, and I think it's a good
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: it makes sense for them, But the price at him
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: that that says says something.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they got a one, although they it was a
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: lot of draft picks moving back and forth. And AJ Brown,
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: if you a J. Brown's a little bit older, but
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: he's a better football player. You just's seen around league
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: is a better football player. I know it's a little
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: bit subjective, but well you also see why how he
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: wants a one. I mean, he just got confirmation of it.
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  Speaker 2: But the Patriots, as I've understood it for several weeks,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: how he wants way too much now the quick because
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: I and it's ironically so that so the Patriots have
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  Speaker 2: thirty first pick.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: Overall, what do the Broncs have thirtieth?
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  Speaker 1: Just kind of funny journey.
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  Speaker 3: Well, but didn't they get a twenty twenty seven? Let
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: me just.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: See are you talking about in the in the trade
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: for Battle? I thought it was this year, but I
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: could be wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Check.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it is very very interesting that these guys
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: are like back to back and it almost is sort
• 14:44
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• 14:46
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  Speaker 1: did we needed to do to get one? Bam? Now
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is this year. Yeah, the thirtieth overall. So the Eagles,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be interesting it. Now, where's the urgency come?
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  Speaker 2: Is it going to come closer to the draft, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to get this Brown trade done?
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  Speaker 3: Do they have a wink wink?
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  Speaker 2: Not?
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  Speaker 3: Do they have an agreement?
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  Speaker 2: But we know for cap purposes it can't get executed
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  Speaker 2: till June second, because it it is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that Look, the cap hit is over forty million.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you know it's it's dates matter, dates matter, and
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  Speaker 2: the Eagle's cap position is really good right now with
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: the goddter situation. I just remember when I when I
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: called you to tell you, I said, You're not gonna
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: believe this is really weird and I have to check
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  Speaker 2: on the validity of this. But I had heard at
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl that if they keep going on the roster,
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  Speaker 2: the cap hit is significantly less.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, this hazard is some of the void date.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really the void date was the start of
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  Speaker 2: the new league year, right, and then they moved it
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  Speaker 2: there was an option, but there was an option bonus date.
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  Speaker 2: There's something in. It might have been right before the
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  Speaker 2: season started. Every team has them different, you know, but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so god, it's back. Their cash bet is. It's really funny.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: They're doing one year deals to get everyone's getting one
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: year deal. No one's got multi year. But their cash
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: bet is way up comparatively million, up comparatively to last year.
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  Speaker 1: one and up. Hey, I just want to before we
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  Speaker 1: get out of it. I guess I'm dying on this
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  Speaker 1: hill or maybe beating a dead horse. But even with
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the Marquis Brown sign, I'm just I really think the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Eagles need a like typical slat receiver for this offense.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: And you know, I know that there's not a lot
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of guys out there that are There are a few
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: that are really good slot receivers. I don't know how
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: much money they want or whether you know some of
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: them are getting up there in age, but you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: if they want to be able to be non telegraphic,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you know, pass out of eleven, run out of eleven,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: pass out as well, run out of So I just
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: feel like that they've gotten by too long because they've
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: been a shot play offense too much and they want
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to stop being that. You want a better marriage between
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: your run and your pass game using play action, then
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it really helps to have a guy who just understands
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: the nuance of playing the slot the way say Jason
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Levant did. It can really make go across like an
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Adam Feeling type goal across the middle and make plays
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: get a little yards after the catch, and you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I just I don't think they have that on their
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: roster right now. They have for years.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Davante has done very well. The slot numbers are good,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: but he's not a true slot receiver. The true slots
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: are Feeling. We talked about the in the last show
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Keenan Allen ju Ju. It's definitely could play inside. That's
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: he just doesn't run that well anymore. Yep, He's had
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: this knee issue over his life of his career.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Greg Dortch is out.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: George Dortch yep Dortch, Yeah, who's been kind of a
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: great story. Butdy Cliff Kingsbury love him.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah uh.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: And then Cedric Wilson could do it. Sterling Shepard, oh boy,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: but he's got to be near the end.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I saw that crazy enough. He was playing outside for
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the Bucks.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Remember the top of the receivers were out.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Right right, but he was doing all right like mate
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Baker was getting the ball.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Scotty Miller could play insider Outside's got good interior quickness.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: It's here's the thing. They got away with it before,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: with the previous coaching staffs and the coordinators and where
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: was coaching him. But man West Coast offense, tight ends
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: usually get involved a true West Coast offense. You'd like
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: to have a slot receiver. Now, the guy he's not
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: a slot but he's the best receiver out there. Well
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: he's not, he's one of the best, and he certainly
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: he's lined up in the slot.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: And that's your guy. Juwan Jennings, who has not gotten
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: his deal.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I know that's the thing. He wants big money and
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: he's a good player. He'd be perfect I mean I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I intentionally didn't mention him because I know that he
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: wants money. But to your point, if we get to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you know, after the draft or a couple of weeks
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't get it, maybe he will take a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: one year deal for a lot less to kind of
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: prove it, and this would be a good place.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: You're only if you're the Eagles. You're only doing it
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: if you've moved to a J Brown. There's no reason
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: to do it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, because.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Not that we're down to bargain basement contracts right now.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Whenever he wanted is way down the top available receivers
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: right now, or Deebo Samuel, which is interesting, Tyry Kill,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, he's having one of the worst
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: knee injuries. You could have guys who are actually healthy, Debo,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings, Stefan Jigs has the legal issue. This guy
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I love and you could line him up anywhere. Is
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks, who look great with Buffalo.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: He looks I think you be perfect for this team.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, Keenan Allen's a really good one there.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why Theagles haven't moved on this, because they
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: know come May. Yeah, there'll there'll be some guys out there. Yeah,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I think this feeling would be mutual. I
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: don't think Jennings would want to come here if A J.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Brown was on the reason, everybody else will. I don't
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: want to be the fifth option on.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: This forget it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right. He'd be technically the fourth receiver,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: but the fifth option. He'll like one play and lets
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: someone gets hurt. Literally would not play. He would he
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: would just play on the you don't want to for us,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you don't play the Eagles or not. Could be a
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: ten personnel team, right, if you played it, you play
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: like maybe three snaps per game. Yeah, so anyway, Yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: they're the longer you wait the better, the more the
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: prices come down.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I like the signing Hollywood Browns is explosive.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And one thing you could say about hers is he's
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: got a lot big arm. Yeah, that so's Lamar. Now,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Lamar became a much better passer and Hollywood's last year
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: and then he really took off.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, listen, if Hollywood could become a better deep
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: ball tracker, this would be the perfect offense because we
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: know how much hearts likes to drive the ball down
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the field outside the numbers. That's where he could flourish
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: if he can get the even if he gets just
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit better and catches like two of the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: four thrown to him, a game that can make the difference.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: A small guy, it's around five.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: He's like, like DeVante is like, I'm in a history
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: of our show. In nine years, I don't remember re
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: sever Remember I don't remember a receiver who was one
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: seventy played, Like, oh, yeah, he's just ridiculous.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, However, I think watching Marquise and maybe others, we
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: should all appreciate just how good Deshaun.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Was at.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: At the ball. So he did something that a lot
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: of players can't do. He could run at top speed
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and catch the ball at the same time without slowing
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: up while tracking the ball. Do you do you realize
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that is so freaking hard. That's why he was a
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: great outfielder too. And I think it was he was
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: drafted by the Dodgers, I believe, But he was just
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: magnificent at it. Yeah, like slow down a little bit
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: right at the end, just to make sure that he can't.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But no, Dja could just catch it and stride and
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: keep running.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: How many times with d Jacks with the Eagles three times?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Was it three one? I thought it was two, but
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you might well, I think it was three contra or
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: three times. But it's because he came back after coming
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: back the second time, right, I don't think there was
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: there was another team in between his second and his
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: third one.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Well, it was Eagles, the Redskins, Bucks, Eagles.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Uh, it was twice. Okay, I couldn't remember, but I
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: totally forgot. He was with the Ravens Dannis careers. I
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: remember him being oh man, I did too. Yeah, yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Raiders briefly Rams, I remember that, and yeah, how he
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: wanted that speedback.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: He was a special talent man. Now he's a he's
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: a college head coach. Pretty cool at Delaware State.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Delaware State. Yeah, absolutely, all right, So that's good. That's
• 25:09
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• 25:13
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