Latest / The Skol Hop / The Vikings are 5-0! Is Darnold better than Cousins? Do the Vikings need another RB? | TSH Ep. 61
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of
- 0:03Speaker 1: The School Hop. Evan, I'm Austin. Where's a couple of
- 0:06Speaker 1: dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer talking about the Bikings.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.
- 0:09Speaker 3: And tonight is episode sixty one of the School Hop.
- 0:13Speaker 3: And we started off obviously talking about that big Vikings
- 0:17Speaker 3: Jets win over the Jets in London this past weekend. Yeah,
- 0:22Speaker 3: the Vikings are five and oh yeah, it's amazing.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Man, that feels really good to say. But we got
- 0:28Speaker 1: into a little bit of a debate. We somehow Kirk
- 0:31Speaker 1: Cousins snuck his way into our conversation tonight and we
- 0:35Speaker 1: were debating, is Kirk better than Sam Darnold? Would we
- 0:39Speaker 1: rather have him back? I don't know.
- 0:40Speaker 2: You'll have to tune in and check that out.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Yeah, for some reason, we just can't let Kirk Cousins go.
- 0:46Speaker 3: But also with a bye week coming up for the Vikings,
- 0:49Speaker 3: so we do take a look ahead for the rest
- 0:51Speaker 3: of the season, maybe revise our win lost totals and
- 0:54Speaker 3: how the Vikings stack up and the rest of the
- 0:56Speaker 3: NFC North.
- 0:57Speaker 1: We also talked about making a light revision to the
- 1:01Speaker 1: Wheel of Purple punishments if the Vikings make the playoffs,
- 1:05Speaker 1: which they're currently on the trajectory to do so. Yeah,
- 1:09Speaker 1: you'll have to kind of follow all the way to
- 1:11Speaker 1: the end for that one.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Yeah, because some interesting things happening with that, for sure.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Grab a cold one. Join us for episode sixty one,
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- 2:16Speaker 3: Well, hey, good news for us, Great news for us
- 2:20Speaker 3: number one, and most importantly, the Vikings are five and
- 2:23Speaker 3: oh five and oh baby school school School, and also
- 2:27Speaker 3: good for us.
- 2:29Speaker 2: We both predicted that the Vikings would win and we did.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Yeah, we did preseason. This was before anybody knew the
- 2:34Speaker 3: vikings would be good at least the first quarter of
- 2:36Speaker 3: the season.
- 2:37Speaker 2: So we are off the hook. We do not have
- 2:39Speaker 2: to spin the wheel of purple punishments.
- 2:42Speaker 3: I did not want to take a shot about apple
- 2:44Speaker 3: cider vinegar like you did last week.
- 2:46Speaker 2: That one's off the wheel, so you won't have to
- 2:47Speaker 2: do that.
- 2:48Speaker 3: Yeah, you took one for the team.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Yeah, could have been worse. Like I could have been
- 2:52Speaker 1: blindfolded for the whole episode. I could have eaten hollopenos.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Like if I land on that one, I promise you
- 2:59Speaker 1: we will have to like do a like technical difficulties screen.
- 3:03Speaker 1: I will have to excuse myself and it'll be bad
- 3:07Speaker 1: news if you want.
- 3:08Speaker 3: I've been growing some of my own hobby and arrows.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Oh really, I can just pick a couple and bring
- 3:13Speaker 3: them on a night and just maybe without the pickled halopanos.
- 3:17Speaker 3: We could just you know, like a cherry eat a.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Hobb and arrow. That would be good, right.
- 3:23Speaker 3: I might have to take the day off at work, yeah,
- 3:24Speaker 3: I mean I love spicy stuff, but yeah, that would
- 3:27Speaker 3: be pretty intense for me too.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Wow.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Good news is we don't have to spend so if
- 3:32Speaker 1: you're looking forward to the Purple punishments, sorry, but we're
- 3:35Speaker 1: not sorry. We're feeling pretty good about it. And I'm
- 3:38Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about the fact that the Vikings are.
- 3:40Speaker 3: Five and oh five and oh that's the best feeling ever.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Close to that though, is enjoying a good beer. Oh yeah,
- 3:47Speaker 1: and I brought some beer tonight. You introduced me to
- 3:51Speaker 1: Keg Creek Brewing. I just found it a few episodes back,
- 3:54Speaker 1: and of course you told me that they had a.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Red So what did I do. I went to Our
- 3:59Speaker 3: Devil's Glenn hy Vey, and.
- 4:01Speaker 1: I found Keg Creek's brick red Ale. So that's where
- 4:05Speaker 1: we're gonna be trying tonight.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited.
- 4:08Speaker 3: You have forced you know, maybe it's just because I've
- 4:10Speaker 3: tried it more than any other kind of beer, but
- 4:13Speaker 3: you have forced the red Ales the Ambers on me,
- 4:16Speaker 3: and they're probably my second favorite now, So this will
- 4:19Speaker 3: be good. And you know what, we're really starting to
- 4:21Speaker 3: get into that like Red Amber October Fest season, like
- 4:26Speaker 3: it's officially October.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Yeah, and the weather's starting to cool off a little bit.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Excited, get some bonfires going, drink some Ambers and Octoberfests
- 4:37Speaker 3: and all that fun stuff.
- 4:38Speaker 2: I'm just gonna crack another one right now while we're here.
- 4:40Speaker 2: All right, all right, we're just gonna go. We're gonna
- 4:42Speaker 2: go full mud too, for okay, full mug right off.
- 4:45Speaker 3: The bat, which is saying something because we don't know
- 4:48Speaker 3: if we like this beer yet, we haven't tried it.
- 4:49Speaker 3: Before we tried Keg Creek. I think the other one
- 4:52Speaker 3: we tried was their Hazy Ipa. I forget the actual
- 4:55Speaker 3: name of it, but I remember liking it a lot. Yeah,
- 4:58Speaker 3: it was super good. Not disappointed at all by ked
- 5:03Speaker 3: Creek so far. I can smell this one already. Yep,
- 5:06Speaker 3: it smells great. What did we have from Keg Creek?
- 5:09Speaker 3: We had their Midwest Hayes. Yeah, there you go back on.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Episode fifty six. Okay, so five episodes ago. Go check
- 5:16Speaker 2: that out. It's been a hot minute. But yeah, Keg Creek.
- 5:20Speaker 3: Thanks for brewing some good beer. And I'm excited. I've
- 5:23Speaker 3: been tempted. This one's been sitting in this fridge right
- 5:26Speaker 3: behind you for a few weeks now, and I could
- 5:29Speaker 3: have easily come down here and just replaced them with For.
- 5:32Speaker 2: All I know you have.
- 5:33Speaker 3: And this is like the second or third of the
- 5:36Speaker 3: six pack that you've got because you've had to replace.
- 5:38Speaker 2: I would never taint the beer segment on the school hot.
- 5:42Speaker 1: I appreciate you of So this is a raw and
- 5:45Speaker 1: real live beer review.
- 5:48Speaker 3: Oh man, I need to be careful with my school here,
- 5:50Speaker 3: because yeah, we got these pretty up.
- 5:53Speaker 2: That's to the top.
- 5:54Speaker 3: These are what, no, they've got to be twenty four
- 5:56Speaker 3: ounce mugs, all right, light skull, skull scariness.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Okay, the wimpiest skull ever.
- 6:05Speaker 4: Hm.
- 6:07Speaker 3: That's a good one, dude. These are ice cold too. Yeah,
- 6:10Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, these are perfect temperature.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:13Speaker 3: So pretty dark in color. Yeah, and compared to some
- 6:16Speaker 3: of the recent dark or amber beers that we've had,
- 6:19Speaker 3: pretty hazy. You're not seeing through it. Head retention wasn't
- 6:22Speaker 3: quite there, but I mean we did fill it up
- 6:25Speaker 3: to the brim and kind of let it slow, so
- 6:27Speaker 3: that's probably on the way. We poured nice refreshing flavor,
- 6:32Speaker 3: you know what.
- 6:32Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of what's up.
- 6:34Speaker 1: This is more of a beer's beer version of the
- 6:37Speaker 1: Kramel Apple fandango.
- 6:39Speaker 3: I feel like we've said that about every beer we've
- 6:42Speaker 3: had since the Caramel Apple fandg.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Don't I don't think that this this though, has the
- 6:46Speaker 1: hint of caramel, like you can just can the caramel
- 6:49Speaker 1: or and.
- 6:51Speaker 3: It's not as intense as the caramel apple Fandango because
- 6:54Speaker 3: of course that just tastes like, Yeah, that one's a
- 6:56Speaker 3: sour caramel apple sucker. Can you tell we like that
- 7:00Speaker 3: karmel apple on Fandango because we've literally mentioned it every
- 7:03Speaker 3: week since we've had it.
- 7:04Speaker 2: But you had to get it at least.
- 7:06Speaker 1: I want to get it at least once more before
- 7:08Speaker 1: fall is officially over.
- 7:09Speaker 3: I got it for my wife Miranda. She had one
- 7:12Speaker 3: and she said it's not gross. But that's about the
- 7:14Speaker 3: biggest compliment she will ever give to a beer. If
- 7:17Speaker 3: she says it's not gross, then oh my goodness, that's
- 7:19Speaker 3: the best beer in the world. But enough talking about
- 7:22Speaker 3: a different beer, Ked Creek, the Brick red Ale. This
- 7:26Speaker 3: can art is really cool too, Brick Brick red Ale.
- 7:30Speaker 2: It's really good.
- 7:31Speaker 3: It's a refreshing beer. It might help that we had
- 7:34Speaker 3: these pretty well iced cold, probably perfect setting for these. Yeah,
- 7:39Speaker 3: I mean beers, beers. I feel like red Ales are
- 7:41Speaker 3: just beers, beers in the best way possible. I like
- 7:44Speaker 3: it a lot. Ked Creek You're two for two on
- 7:47Speaker 3: the beers that I've had from you so far. I'm
- 7:50Speaker 3: really glad that you started showing up in our local
- 7:54Speaker 3: high vy.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Yeah. Good stuff for sure.
- 7:56Speaker 3: And if I see more ked Creek, I'll probably pick
- 7:59Speaker 3: up a six pack and throw it in the fridge. Yeah, yeah,
- 8:02Speaker 3: that's probably probably a good plan.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Well, we gotta we gotta talk about this Vikings dub.
- 8:08Speaker 1: It wasn't pretty.
- 8:10Speaker 3: They've had uglier winds, but it was a wind, yes,
- 8:14Speaker 3: And now they have a bye week and uh, things
- 8:19Speaker 3: are just looking up for the Vikings. I don't it
- 8:22Speaker 3: almost doesn't feel real like if you're if you're a
- 8:25Speaker 3: longtime schoolhop listener, about this time last year, I every
- 8:30Speaker 3: episode I was saying things like this is so frustrating.
- 8:33Speaker 3: It's just it's the worst. And I would go off
- 8:35Speaker 3: on like a random tangent every episode. Remember that I
- 8:38Speaker 3: had like a month where every episode I just went
- 8:40Speaker 3: off five minute shit and I just I think my
- 8:44Speaker 3: most used word was frustrating because of all the turnovers
- 8:47Speaker 3: and everything just felt like it fell apart last year.
- 8:50Speaker 3: But this year, I don't know, It's like the football
- 8:53Speaker 3: gods are like all right, Vikings fans like we've we've
- 8:56Speaker 3: given enough in the last decade or so, like here,
- 9:00Speaker 3: here's here's your one season every five to ten years
- 9:03Speaker 3: where you're gonna be halfway decent, and I'm here for
- 9:06Speaker 3: I'll take it. Every win feels like, you know, it's
- 9:10Speaker 3: borrowed time just because of Vikings history. But they're playing
- 9:16Speaker 3: really good, even the games that were like, man, this
- 9:18Speaker 3: team's really frustrating.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Even though they win everyone.
- 9:21Speaker 3: They're still really good in all these games. Like it's
- 9:24Speaker 3: just nice to enjoy it and to see all the
- 9:27Speaker 3: tweets from other fandoms like the Vikings aren't real when
- 9:31Speaker 3: the media has finally taking a turn, like yeah, like
- 9:35Speaker 3: what's Sam sam Acho ho, I don't know he's he's
- 9:41Speaker 3: going off on social media like, hey guys, the Vikings
- 9:44Speaker 3: are real and it's really fun to watch. And so
- 9:47Speaker 3: there's my tangent, just like, oh my gosh, I can't
- 9:49Speaker 3: believe this is fun and it's awesome and it feels real.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Something I want to talk about before we get into
- 9:54Speaker 3: roses and Thorns from the game. I just want to
- 9:58Speaker 3: point out and I pointed this out in our initial
- 10:00Speaker 3: reaction video, which, by the way, if you haven't noticed,
- 10:03Speaker 3: we've been doing our best. We haven't been perfect, but
- 10:06Speaker 3: I think we've got three or four of the five
- 10:08Speaker 3: games now where we've done an initial reaction, like right
- 10:12Speaker 3: after the game's over, we hop on a call together
- 10:16Speaker 3: and we just kind of give our hot takes and
- 10:20Speaker 3: try to keep it short and sweet.
- 10:22Speaker 2: That's been a lot of fun, by the way, it
- 10:24Speaker 2: has been fun.
- 10:25Speaker 1: I brought up, though, two interesting stats across these five games.
- 10:30Speaker 1: The first one I brought up was the fact that
- 10:32Speaker 1: the Vikings are outscoring their opponents forty eight to three
- 10:37Speaker 1: in the first quarter forty eight to three in five games.
- 10:42Speaker 1: They were up seven to three over the Giants in
- 10:46Speaker 1: week one, three nothing over the Niners, fourteen nothing over
- 10:50Speaker 1: the Texans, fourteen nothing against the Packers, and then ten
- 10:53Speaker 1: nothing against.
- 10:56Speaker 3: The Jets in the first quarter alone. Yes, because first
- 11:00Speaker 3: quarter box score. And the other thing to note with
- 11:04Speaker 3: that is the Vikings haven't trailed since they were down
- 11:08Speaker 3: three nothing when they fell behind to the Giants early
- 11:11Speaker 3: in the first quarter.
- 11:12Speaker 2: And they haven't trailed since. Yeah.
- 11:14Speaker 1: That is just mind blowing. Yeah, and did you see
- 11:17Speaker 1: the graphic that came out today. I don't know which
- 11:20Speaker 1: network posted it, but they posted all the other teams
- 11:24Speaker 1: to have.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Started out five.
- 11:28Speaker 3: And oh and not trail for yeah, more than you know,
- 11:34Speaker 3: X number of minutes in their first five games, and
- 11:37Speaker 3: all of them either went.
- 11:38Speaker 2: To the Super Bowl or won the Super Bowl.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, and I don't think it was started
- 11:43Speaker 3: out five and oh now that you correct, it's it
- 11:45Speaker 3: is the having not trailed for the least amount of
- 11:49Speaker 3: time trailed for the first fight. There were some elite
- 11:52Speaker 3: teams in there, like the nine Saints and the ninety eight.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Who was it not the ninety eight? Was it the
- 12:01Speaker 1: Broncos in ninety eight? Yeah, and then the ninety nine
- 12:04Speaker 1: Rams the Greatest Show on Turf, Like, you had some
- 12:07Speaker 1: outstanding teams. Yeah, in there that are just it's like
- 12:12Speaker 1: rarefied air that the Vikings are in right now. Offensively,
- 12:15Speaker 1: and that's after a really kind of a tough game
- 12:18Speaker 1: offensively where you scored one touchdown on offense and it
- 12:22Speaker 1: was by c. J. Ham, your full back. Yeah, you
- 12:24Speaker 1: had to pick six by Andrew Van Ginkel, who's on
- 12:26Speaker 1: pace to like destroy the franchise record for pick six
- 12:31Speaker 1: is and then eleven of your points came from your kicker.
- 12:35Speaker 3: Yeah, how about that? Will record? Will the thrill he
- 12:38Speaker 3: goes through, he isn't coming. He's here, the trill is here,
- 12:42Speaker 3: and he's dominating. He's perfect so far, and I'm kind
- 12:45Speaker 3: of terrified of it. You asked me in our recap video, like,
- 12:49Speaker 3: do we wanted to miss one just to get it
- 12:50Speaker 3: out of a system?
- 12:51Speaker 2: No? No, stay perfect.
- 12:54Speaker 3: That whole idea of missing it just to get out
- 12:56Speaker 3: of your system, that's I'm not saying you're a loser,
- 13:00Speaker 3: but that's a loser mentality. We're not losers anymore.
- 13:04Speaker 1: I didn't say that I wanted him to miss one,
- 13:06Speaker 1: Dustin actually said in our interview. And I'm not trying
- 13:09Speaker 1: to throw Dustin Baker under the bus here either, but
- 13:12Speaker 1: like he kind of said, yeah, I just want him
- 13:13Speaker 1: to miss one so that we just did not the
- 13:15Speaker 1: cobweb get him back down to earth a little bit,
- 13:17Speaker 1: which I can respect the opinion for sure.
- 13:20Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
- 13:21Speaker 3: I'm mostly joking when I'm saying that's a loser mentality,
- 13:24Speaker 3: because like I can get behind they're like, okay, pressure's off,
- 13:27Speaker 3: Like I already missed one.
- 13:28Speaker 2: You know if I miss.
- 13:28Speaker 3: Another one that it's not the end of the world. But like, no,
- 13:31Speaker 3: just foot down on the gas pedal in all aspects
- 13:34Speaker 3: of the game, including Wilbethrill who is here, he's not coming,
- 13:38Speaker 3: he's here well.
- 13:39Speaker 1: And the Vikings have done that in the first quarter.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Like I said, forty eight to three. They've outscored their
- 13:43Speaker 1: opponents through five games forty eight points to three. And
- 13:46Speaker 1: then the other amazing stat that I kind of uncovered
- 13:49Speaker 1: and it didn't take me along to uncover this, but
- 13:52Speaker 1: the biggest lead that the Vikings have held on average
- 13:56Speaker 1: in these games is.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Over twenty one point.
- 14:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:00Speaker 2: That's wild.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, this is just not something that we're used to,
- 14:04Speaker 1: especially with Kirk Cousins. And you watched Kirk Cousins on
- 14:07Speaker 1: Thursday night make this miraculous comeback and win the game
- 14:11Speaker 1: for the Falcons, which cool, good for him, pat on
- 14:13Speaker 1: the back, like, good for you, Kirk. But boy, am
- 14:16Speaker 1: I glad that we're not in that situation this year
- 14:19Speaker 1: where we've got to be on the edge of our seat,
- 14:21Speaker 1: like are we gonna win these games? No, we've been
- 14:25Speaker 1: up by twenty one points on average at our best
- 14:29Speaker 1: in those games.
- 14:30Speaker 2: I say our like I'm a part of the team.
- 14:31Speaker 3: I know that annoys you and I do it too,
- 14:34Speaker 3: which is the most annoying part of me being annoyed
- 14:36Speaker 3: by that. But anyway, and we've outscored our opponents by
- 14:39Speaker 3: a million points to basically nothing in the first quarter.
- 14:42Speaker 3: So I think Kevin O'Connell has something figured out. You
- 14:46Speaker 3: get up early, you keep the pedal to the medal
- 14:48Speaker 3: for a while, and you try to rack up as
- 14:52Speaker 3: many points as possible, and then you just let Brian
- 14:54Speaker 3: Flores in that defense ball out and see what happens. Yeah,
- 14:58Speaker 3: I will say to that point, and not to completely
- 15:01Speaker 3: like say the opposite of what you just said, but
- 15:04Speaker 3: I think you'll agree with me here. It does seem
- 15:06Speaker 3: like in every game, or a lot of these games,
- 15:09Speaker 3: there's a there's a point where even the offense and defense,
- 15:13Speaker 3: the whole team kind of goes into cruise mode or
- 15:16Speaker 3: coast mode and they take their foot off the gas pedal.
- 15:19Speaker 3: And that's when you let the Packers come back, you know,
- 15:22Speaker 3: and score twenty nine points to your three points. That's
- 15:25Speaker 3: when the Jets are in a position to you know,
- 15:29Speaker 3: have a game potentially game winning drive at the end
- 15:32Speaker 3: of the game. If not for Stefan Gilmour, which best
- 15:35Speaker 3: ten million bucks of vikings have ever spent other than
- 15:37Speaker 3: the Sam Darnold ten million dollars. But I think that's
- 15:41Speaker 3: something this coaching staff, and I don't know if it's
- 15:44Speaker 3: active decisions by them to kind of go into coast
- 15:47Speaker 3: mode or cruise mode or maybe try to bleed the
- 15:50Speaker 3: clock as much as possible. But they got to figure
- 15:52Speaker 3: that out because whatever they're doing, their cruising't too much.
- 15:56Speaker 3: They're slowing down too much, and.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Maybe it is.
- 15:59Speaker 3: You got to get credit to the other teams for
- 16:01Speaker 3: being good NFL teams as well, but I don't know
- 16:04Speaker 3: many They always start off so good. I think if
- 16:08Speaker 3: you don't look at just first quarter those like beginning
- 16:12Speaker 3: of the game, leads are even bigger this year, Like
- 16:15Speaker 3: they were up seventeen to nothing to the Jets, you know,
- 16:18Speaker 3: at one point in the game to the Packers it
- 16:21Speaker 3: was twenty eight to nothing. Like they've had huge leads
- 16:25Speaker 3: and then for whatever reason at some point kind of
- 16:28Speaker 3: slowed down and then tighten it up usually win the game.
- 16:31Speaker 3: Every game this year they've won the game. But that
- 16:34Speaker 3: is my biggest concern so far, is they need to
- 16:36Speaker 3: figure out this whole coasting mentality and cut that out.
- 16:41Speaker 2: So without looking at my stats, I can't even I
- 16:44Speaker 2: can't read it. So, in which game have the Vikings
- 16:48Speaker 2: held the biggest lead? Wasn't it with the Packers? It
- 16:52Speaker 2: was the Packers? Yeah?
- 16:54Speaker 3: What game have the Vikings held the second biggest lead
- 16:57Speaker 3: on the season. Oh man, I'm just being fsy just now,
- 17:00Speaker 3: but I mean it was in the Texans. It was
- 17:02Speaker 3: the Texans, thirty four to seven is what it ended. Yeah,
- 17:05Speaker 3: it was the twenty seven point lead, yeah at the end.
- 17:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:09Speaker 1: And then, interestingly enough, the third biggest lead was twenty
- 17:13Speaker 1: two points against the Giants in Week one.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:16Speaker 3: So the Packers and or no sorry, the Niners and
- 17:21Speaker 3: the the Jets. Those have been the closest games.
- 17:25Speaker 1: It's actually a thirteen point game at one point against
- 17:28Speaker 1: the Niners.
- 17:29Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a lot of good, a lot of
- 17:32Speaker 3: fun stuff. And I think as Vikings fans, there's that
- 17:35Speaker 3: quick tendency to be like, everybody's told us we're not
- 17:38Speaker 3: that good. Everybody says, you know, they're gonna drop off
- 17:42Speaker 3: at some point. We've seen these hiccups in the middle
- 17:44Speaker 3: of games where it seems like they're slowing down. So
- 17:46Speaker 3: are we seeing the cracks starting to form in the foundation?
- 17:50Speaker 3: I think we're just scaring ourselves, I think, because then
- 17:53Speaker 3: for every time you see those like, ah, they're not
- 17:55Speaker 3: doing that great, you see these crazy stats where it's like,
- 17:59Speaker 3: like you said said earlier, you know, in the history
- 18:02Speaker 3: of the NFL, they're amongst some of the best teams
- 18:06Speaker 3: in history when it comes to not trailing for what
- 18:11Speaker 3: it's less than three and a half minutes of game
- 18:13Speaker 3: time the whole season.
- 18:14Speaker 2: They've trained much.
- 18:15Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you see that, and you see the
- 18:19Speaker 3: other stats where it's like, yeah, the only other three
- 18:21Speaker 3: teams in history that have ever done what the Vikings
- 18:23Speaker 3: are doing won the Super Bowl that year. You know,
- 18:26Speaker 3: it's stuff like that, and maybe Dustin Baker is the
- 18:28Speaker 3: king of finding those those crazy stats, but like those
- 18:32Speaker 3: are the stats that are like, Okay, this team is good,
- 18:35Speaker 3: And honestly, I think if they can kind of figure
- 18:39Speaker 3: out that momentum issue that they've been playing around with,
- 18:44Speaker 3: the only thing that can really hinder the Vikings so
- 18:46Speaker 3: far is injury.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned that in our recap video too
- 18:51Speaker 1: the other day, just that you know, you're not really
- 18:54Speaker 1: concerned about anyone else on the schedule. You're concerned about
- 18:58Speaker 1: keeping these guys healthy and keeping the moment them right,
- 19:01Speaker 1: And I definitely agree with you on that. You've got
- 19:05Speaker 1: the Lions twice that you still haven't faced the Bears.
- 19:09Speaker 2: They could be a little frisky.
- 19:11Speaker 3: They've shown flashes. I think the Bears every game this year,
- 19:15Speaker 3: the next game they look a little bit better. And
- 19:17Speaker 3: they just demolished the Panthers yesterday too.
- 19:20Speaker 2: That's not saying much.
- 19:21Speaker 3: I mean it's not saying much, but it's still another
- 19:23Speaker 3: NFL team, and you know, to look better than you
- 19:27Speaker 3: did last week. That's the goal for literally everybody in
- 19:30Speaker 3: every profession ever, right, Like, you just do better than
- 19:33Speaker 3: you were yesterday. So the Bears could be a weirdly
- 19:37Speaker 3: scary team in the second half of the season, and
- 19:39Speaker 3: that's when the Vikings play them. So I think those
- 19:42Speaker 3: two divisional games are the most concerning for me at
- 19:45Speaker 3: this point in the Vikings remaining schedule. But beyond that, like,
- 19:48Speaker 3: you've got teams that are just not good. I mean,
- 19:53Speaker 3: you've got the Rams who are mediocre, the Colts who
- 19:57Speaker 3: aren't good, the Jaguars, Titan, the Cardinals have kind of
- 20:02Speaker 3: proven that they can't really hang. That Falcons game will
- 20:06Speaker 3: be interesting. Yeah, the Seahawks, I think was more interesting
- 20:11Speaker 3: about a week ago until they lost this week, and
- 20:13Speaker 3: then it's kind of like, I don't know, maybe, but
- 20:15Speaker 3: then you know, it's only just one week. For sure,
- 20:18Speaker 3: some of these games we will get to that.
- 20:20Speaker 2: We'll get to that.
- 20:21Speaker 3: But I want to finish off our thoughts for this,
- 20:23Speaker 3: this London win over the Jets. Roses and thorns, Evan,
- 20:28Speaker 3: what's your biggest rose? My biggest rose continues to be
- 20:33Speaker 3: the fact that it's not one person, it's just it's
- 20:37Speaker 3: it's almost as if And I think this is actually
- 20:40Speaker 3: I was thinking about this this morning. I was drinking
- 20:42Speaker 3: my coffee and I was just kind of scrolling Twitter,
- 20:44Speaker 3: kind of catching up on some of the all of
- 20:47Speaker 3: the Viking stuff that came out yesterday, and I had
- 20:51Speaker 3: the thought, you know, we've been doing this wheel of
- 20:53Speaker 3: purple punishments. It seems like Brian Flores in this Vikings
- 20:57Speaker 3: defense has their own wheel of Purple punished and they
- 21:00Speaker 3: spin it before the game and they're like, all right,
- 21:02Speaker 3: Ben Ginkel, you're gonna have a huge game today, all right.
- 21:06Speaker 3: And Blake Cashman against the Texans, you're gonna go out
- 21:08Speaker 3: and just ball out, you know, Jonathan Grenard and you
- 21:12Speaker 3: get this game right, And they just It's like they
- 21:14Speaker 3: have the wheel in the locker room and they spin
- 21:16Speaker 3: it and it lands on somebody and they're like, all right,
- 21:19Speaker 3: you're up, and that's I don't know, It's obviously not true,
- 21:23Speaker 3: but I love the fact that we're not relying on
- 21:29Speaker 3: these like heroes anymore. Like that used to be the
- 21:32Speaker 3: Vikings narrative for so long. It was Adrian Peterson, it
- 21:36Speaker 3: was Stefan Diggs, it was Danielle Hunter, it was ever
- 21:40Speaker 3: single person.
- 21:41Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin Jefferson. I mean I remember a game last year.
- 21:44Speaker 1: It was after Kirk had been hurt, he was.
- 21:47Speaker 2: Out, and Nick Mullins was in the game.
- 21:51Speaker 1: I don't even remember who it was or what game
- 21:53Speaker 1: we were playing, but it just seemed like Justin Jefferson
- 21:56Speaker 1: had this massive chip on his shoulder and he wanted
- 21:59Speaker 1: to prove to the world that he could win the
- 22:01Speaker 1: game for the Vikings. And I don't remember the outcome
- 22:03Speaker 1: of the game or anything. We could go back and look, probably,
- 22:06Speaker 1: but he hasn't had to do that this year. And
- 22:09Speaker 1: it goes on the offensive side of the ball too,
- 22:12Speaker 1: Like Sam Darnold had his worst game in a Vikings uniform.
- 22:16Speaker 3: There was no touchdowns, no passing, touchdowns, no touchdowns, one interception.
- 22:20Speaker 3: Passer rating was really low, I think lower than what
- 22:23Speaker 3: Rogers ended up with and Rodgers threw three picks.
- 22:27Speaker 2: It was just an ugly game.
- 22:28Speaker 1: I think the weather kind of affected it because it
- 22:31Speaker 1: was drizzily and things were slippery and whatnot. But he
- 22:35Speaker 1: was just not accurate with his throws. Jordan Addison, justin Jefferson.
- 22:38Speaker 1: They could not haul in any of the passes that
- 22:40Speaker 1: he was throwing their way. But it didn't matter, and
- 22:44Speaker 1: it didn't matter that Aaron Jones went down, right, Yeah,
- 22:48Speaker 1: I think.
- 22:48Speaker 3: It kind of mattered a little, didn't matter. It did matter,
- 22:50Speaker 3: but it didn't matter in the outcome of the.
- 22:52Speaker 2: Game enough to lose. Yeah.
- 22:54Speaker 1: Yeah, So to me, like the Vikings are so well rounded.
- 23:00Speaker 1: I do think now that we're removed from that game
- 23:04Speaker 1: by a day, the Vikings might need to figure something
- 23:07Speaker 1: out at running back because they proved that in the
- 23:10Speaker 1: absence of Aaron Jones there's really no viable solution to
- 23:13Speaker 1: keep that running game going. And that's what that's what's
- 23:16Speaker 1: kept this offense so balanced over the first five games,
- 23:20Speaker 1: is you keep the opposing defense honest when you're able
- 23:23Speaker 1: to run the ball effectively. And I think, what is
- 23:25Speaker 1: Aaron Jones averaging like four yards of carry or something
- 23:29Speaker 1: like that.
- 23:29Speaker 2: More like mid five four or five.
- 23:32Speaker 3: Yeah, on the season, he's four point nine, ty Chandler's
- 23:37Speaker 3: three point five.
- 23:38Speaker 2: That's a pretty steep drop off.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think ty Chandler only averaged like two
- 23:45Speaker 3: and a half yards of carry in Aaron Jones' replacement
- 23:50Speaker 3: on Sunday.
- 23:51Speaker 2: So, I don't know.
- 23:52Speaker 1: There's there's been some talk about like Travis etn is
- 23:56Speaker 1: he the guy? Should we go after him? The Jag
- 23:58Speaker 1: season is basically over. There's probably a few.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Other names out there that the Vikings could go after.
- 24:03Speaker 3: But all of that, to say, my rose the good,
- 24:06Speaker 3: the good, not the bad. There was a lot of
- 24:10Speaker 3: bad on Sunday, but the good was it still hasn't
- 24:13Speaker 3: come down to one player, justin Jefferson didn't have to
- 24:16Speaker 3: over extend himself and try to play hero ball and
- 24:20Speaker 3: put the franchise on his back and get the win.
- 24:23Speaker 3: In fact, he finished with ninety something yards and no touchdowns.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it was just crazy, very germane. Speaking of hero.
- 24:31Speaker 3: Ball, I immediately think of Nick Mullins one that he was
- 24:35Speaker 3: in for one play and threw a deep, well deep
- 24:39Speaker 3: ish pass for like twenty four yards to Aaron Jones,
- 24:42Speaker 3: which might have been the play that got Aaron Jones
- 24:44Speaker 3: a little banged up to think it was, But of
- 24:46Speaker 3: course he's in for one play and they didn't with
- 24:50Speaker 3: the backup quarterback coming in cold. Koc didn't call a
- 24:53Speaker 3: run up the middle or something for one play like
- 24:56Speaker 3: they called the pass and it worked. And yeah, sure,
- 25:00Speaker 3: I think on that one, if a better ball was
- 25:02Speaker 3: thrown on the exact same route, if everything else was
- 25:05Speaker 3: the same, maybe it could have gone for a touchdown
- 25:07Speaker 3: because he kind of underthrew him and he had to
- 25:09Speaker 3: slow up a little bit. But that's total Nick Mullins
- 25:12Speaker 3: is all right, I'm gonna throw the ball.
- 25:14Speaker 1: And it's it's total Koc too, Like I think, yep,
- 25:17Speaker 1: he's not gonna take the foot off the gas if.
- 25:20Speaker 2: The backup quarterback is in.
- 25:22Speaker 3: Yeah, until they have a seventeen point lead and then
- 25:24Speaker 3: they take their feet off the gas. Right, what's you so,
- 25:28Speaker 3: my Rose, I mean, I just had they're five and oh,
- 25:32Speaker 3: like it's hard to argue with that. They could still
- 25:36Speaker 3: lose five five games this season and still make the
- 25:41Speaker 3: playoffs probably pretty easily. And I don't know if they're
- 25:43Speaker 3: gonna lose five games this season, just s based off
- 25:46Speaker 3: the way they've looked so far, and we could talk
- 25:48Speaker 3: about that a little bit later. I've actually kind of
- 25:50Speaker 3: predicted how many games I think they'll they'll lose.
- 25:52Speaker 2: But they're five.
- 25:53Speaker 3: And oh, I did have an honorable mention of a
- 25:56Speaker 3: rose that this might be the last game Aaron Rodgers
- 26:00Speaker 3: plays against the Vikings, something I saw pointed out by
- 26:04Speaker 3: Dustin Baker in the Vikings Territory recap of the game,
- 26:10Speaker 3: like they do the twelve snap reactions of every game
- 26:13Speaker 3: pretty quick after they end, and one of the things
- 26:15Speaker 3: he says is, yes, this might be Aaron rodgers last
- 26:18Speaker 3: game against the Purple. Theoretically it could be, and that
- 26:22Speaker 3: that kind of feels good to know, like we might
- 26:25Speaker 3: not have to deal with Aaron Rodgers anymore.
- 26:26Speaker 2: And it was a win.
- 26:27Speaker 1: So so there's nothing as a football fan that brings
- 26:31Speaker 1: me more joy than watching that man.
- 26:34Speaker 2: Be frustrated on the football. It was, it was really,
- 26:39Speaker 2: it was really.
- 26:39Speaker 3: Entertaining to watch on Sunday, the fact that they struggled mightily.
- 26:44Speaker 3: But but and this will transition me to my thorn.
- 26:50Speaker 2: My thorn was.
- 26:51Speaker 1: That we continue to put these teams, specifically the last
- 26:55Speaker 1: two weeks, the Packers and the Jets, we put them
- 26:59Speaker 1: in a position to come back and win after being
- 27:02Speaker 1: up by an average of twenty two points, after out
- 27:06Speaker 1: scoring our opponents forty eight to three in the first quarter.
- 27:10Speaker 2: The last two weeks, these.
- 27:12Speaker 3: Teams have found a way to get themselves back into
- 27:15Speaker 3: the game, and it's really come down to our defense,
- 27:19Speaker 3: to the Vikings defense shutting things down and saying, Nope,
- 27:22Speaker 3: we're not going to do this, this is not going
- 27:24Speaker 3: to happen to it. So thankfully, Stefan Gilmour was the
- 27:28Speaker 3: answer to our prayers on Sunday got that game ceiling interception.
- 27:34Speaker 2: But I was I was standing.
- 27:37Speaker 1: At my TV with I think it was like three
- 27:40Speaker 1: and a half minutes left.
- 27:41Speaker 2: I'm standing. You don't sit, You're standing, You're pacing.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Your wife is rolling her eyes in the background, like,
- 27:47Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what did I marry into. But I'm
- 27:50Speaker 1: looking at the TV saying like, you don't give Aaron
- 27:53Speaker 1: Rodgers the ball back with this much time on the clock.
- 27:56Speaker 1: You just don't do that. And here we were. We
- 28:00Speaker 1: had no choice. We had to give them the ball back.
- 28:02Speaker 1: And I'm just like I've seen this before. This has happened,
- 28:07Speaker 1: and this is where we're going to get our first loss.
- 28:10Speaker 1: This is gonna suck. It has been a really crappy day.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Nobody's played well at all. And fortunately, like I said,
- 28:19Speaker 1: it wasn't bad. But that's still a thorn and I
- 28:22Speaker 1: think it's something that over the bye week the Vikings
- 28:25Speaker 1: have to address. They have to figure out how to
- 28:27Speaker 1: get the lead and keep the lead. And you've pointed
- 28:30Speaker 1: it out as well, not get soft in the middle
- 28:33Speaker 1: of the game, not find those moments where they can
- 28:36Speaker 1: just kind of yeah, you relax for a minute. No,
- 28:40Speaker 1: keep the keep the foot on the gas, keep going.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Blow teams out, blow teams out. We were just talking
- 28:46Speaker 1: before we started recording because the Saints are playing the
- 28:49Speaker 1: Chiefs on Monday Night Football right now, and we looked
- 28:51Speaker 1: back on the first two games the Chiefs played.
- 28:53Speaker 2: They had like eighty five something points.
- 28:56Speaker 3: The Chiefs are the Saints. The Saints, Yeah, yeah.
- 28:58Speaker 1: There they were in off and some powerhouse painted. They
- 29:01Speaker 1: played the Panthers and the.
- 29:03Speaker 3: Well, the first game was the Cowboys, which they're not,
- 29:06Speaker 3: you know, the elite of the elite, but they're still
- 29:08Speaker 3: not awful.
- 29:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:10Speaker 1: So anyways, that's gonna be my thorn. What's your thorn?
- 29:12Speaker 3: Yeah, so I had a thorn. Just you typically about
- 29:17Speaker 3: the the mid game slumps, but I feel like I've
- 29:20Speaker 3: we both talked about that. It's not a secret, it's
- 29:22Speaker 3: everybody knows. I think right now my biggest thorn is
- 29:27Speaker 3: And maybe it was just a coincidental. The slump was
- 29:30Speaker 3: going to happen anyways, but it coincided in the Jets
- 29:33Speaker 3: game with Aaron Jones going out, and that's scary. I'm
- 29:37Speaker 3: I will be the first to admit I was pretty
- 29:41Speaker 3: low on Aaron Jones. I didn't hate the move when
- 29:43Speaker 3: they signed him in the offseason, but like, you know,
- 29:46Speaker 3: almost thirty year old running back who has already put
- 29:49Speaker 3: a lot of production on the field, So what could
- 29:51Speaker 3: possibly be left in this tank right now? Like, I
- 29:53Speaker 3: didn't expect much. I think I've said, like, oh, I
- 29:56Speaker 3: thought you'd get one hundred yards rushing one time and
- 29:59Speaker 3: maybe a touchdown. You Like, I know, I said a
- 30:02Speaker 3: season prediction of what I thought he'd get, and it'd
- 30:04Speaker 3: be fun to look back. I think I said like
- 30:06Speaker 3: six hundred yards, you know, but he has I'm glad
- 30:11Speaker 3: to say he's proven me wrong.
- 30:13Speaker 2: He's over halfway there. He really said six.
- 30:16Speaker 3: I think he was like six hundred and then like
- 30:17Speaker 3: four touchdowns or something like that.
- 30:19Speaker 2: Is what three fifty in a touchdown?
- 30:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I made my prediction in one of our Dustin
- 30:24Speaker 3: Baker episodes, so that'd be probably not horribly hard to
- 30:27Speaker 3: figure out. But yeah, he he is proving me wrong
- 30:30Speaker 3: as long as he stays healthy. And I guess that
- 30:32Speaker 3: was my main point, like he's not going to be
- 30:34Speaker 3: healthy all season. He's an almost thirty year old running back.
- 30:37Speaker 3: And it does sound from what I've seen on Twitter
- 30:40Speaker 3: that whatever held him out, he was already kind of
- 30:43Speaker 3: hurting a little bit, and then he tried to go
- 30:45Speaker 3: and against the Jets and then ultimately it was like, ah, well,
- 30:49Speaker 3: pull ya. It's not worth trying to injure you more
- 30:52Speaker 3: just for one game. So it does sound like he
- 30:55Speaker 3: should be good to go by the time they play
- 30:57Speaker 3: the Lions after the bye week here, so hopefully it's
- 31:01Speaker 3: not nothing too serious. But this offense really took a
- 31:05Speaker 3: nose dive once he was out of the game. They
- 31:08Speaker 3: stopped being able to do things. And it's not for
- 31:10Speaker 3: lack of trying, because Sam Donald threw a bunch of
- 31:13Speaker 3: deep ball attempts, and I heard something on the radio
- 31:17Speaker 3: from Ron Johnson on KFN about that too, something like
- 31:21Speaker 3: the Jets are pretty susceptible to those deep ball attempts,
- 31:26Speaker 3: and the Vikings this season they've been really good at
- 31:29Speaker 3: those short passes, those mid range passes. Donald has had
- 31:33Speaker 3: a few first downs on his legs when things kind
- 31:36Speaker 3: of break down. You saw that a little bit early
- 31:38Speaker 3: in the game against the Jets, but then that went
- 31:39Speaker 3: away completely about the time Aaron.
- 31:42Speaker 2: Jones went out.
- 31:43Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a correlation, but Ron Johnson
- 31:47Speaker 3: on KFN seemed to think it was more of a
- 31:50Speaker 3: game plan thing that just didn't work out. Usually those
- 31:53Speaker 3: deep balls against the Jets on like second down or
- 31:56Speaker 3: whatever Ron Johnson said the stat was, but usually those
- 31:59Speaker 3: are pretty decent and they just didn't work out for
- 32:01Speaker 3: the Vikings. Anyways, all that to say, ten minute explanation
- 32:05Speaker 3: of a one word answer, two word answer. Aaron Jones,
- 32:09Speaker 3: he's my thorn if he gets injured.
- 32:11Speaker 1: And when you don't have your guy, though, and we
- 32:15Speaker 1: saw this last year too, because we didn't have the
- 32:17Speaker 1: presence of a powerhouse running back. We had two number
- 32:21Speaker 1: two running backs.
- 32:23Speaker 3: Maybe, well, I tried Cam Akers was the closest to
- 32:28Speaker 3: a number one the Vikings had. Yeah, and they wouldn't
- 32:30Speaker 3: put him in the game.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:32Speaker 1: So yeah, when Aaron Jones goes out and I think
- 32:36Speaker 1: you're right. I think he's not going to be extremely durable,
- 32:39Speaker 1: and you watch him get hit and you cringe.
- 32:42Speaker 2: Every time, You're like, oh gosh, I hope he's.
- 32:44Speaker 1: Not hurt this time, you know. But I think we're
- 32:48Speaker 1: going to see more of this throughout the season. I
- 32:50Speaker 1: don't think this will be the first time that he
- 32:52Speaker 1: misses significant playing time. And I think the Vikings will
- 32:57Speaker 1: want to save him now that they're on the trajectory
- 33:00Speaker 1: there on. They'll want to save him for a deep
- 33:01Speaker 1: run in the playoffs because I think Kevin O'Connell can
- 33:06Speaker 1: see they need him, they need him there and they
- 33:10Speaker 1: need to be able to balance this offense out. Sam
- 33:12Speaker 1: Darnold is not a Kirk Cousins who can throw for
- 33:14Speaker 1: five hundred yards.
- 33:16Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just not that guy.
- 33:18Speaker 3: And well, I will say about Kirk Cousins too, and sorry,
- 33:21Speaker 3: I'm totally walking over you, and I do apologize.
- 33:24Speaker 2: I'll allow it.
- 33:25Speaker 3: So I was on a guy's trip with some somebodies
- 33:28Speaker 3: over the weekend, and it started on Thursday night and
- 33:30Speaker 3: we were watching the Falcons game and as they were playing,
- 33:32Speaker 3: it just dawned on me, like everything Kirk does, even
- 33:35Speaker 3: if he throws a fifty yard touchdown, it just looks
- 33:38Speaker 3: like he's trying so hard.
- 33:41Speaker 2: Like Aaron Rodgers.
- 33:42Speaker 3: How many times have we seen him just flick it
- 33:44Speaker 3: and it's an eighty yard touchdown and he's just like,
- 33:46Speaker 3: I guess it worked, okay, And yes, Aaron Rodgers is
- 33:49Speaker 3: one of the greatest of all time, but like Kirk
- 33:51Speaker 3: Cousins just looks like he's forcing every inch he gets.
- 33:57Speaker 3: And maybe we felt it and we just never really
- 33:59Speaker 3: saw it until he was in a different uniform. But
- 34:02Speaker 3: so I think Sam Donald can look more like like
- 34:07Speaker 3: it's easier, a little bit more well rounded. But yeah,
- 34:11Speaker 3: Kirk Cousin, I think we're just used to quarterback trying
- 34:13Speaker 3: to put everything on his back. I'm sorry, I interrupted,
- 34:16Speaker 3: you keep going.
- 34:17Speaker 1: No, the point I'm trying to make is just simply
- 34:20Speaker 1: that say, I think Sam Donald more than anybody needs
- 34:23Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, because like the point, the point I just
- 34:27Speaker 1: made is that Sam Donald isn't Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins
- 34:32Speaker 1: has a football acumen that I don't know that many
- 34:35Speaker 1: players in the league have right now. He understands the
- 34:39Speaker 1: game on a very deep level, deeper than I'll ever understand.
- 34:43Speaker 1: He can read defenses very well, and he can get
- 34:46Speaker 1: the ball accurately into a receiver's hands.
- 34:52Speaker 2: Really well. Oh yeah, yeah, I.
- 34:54Speaker 1: Would say in terms of being a passer, not not
- 34:59Speaker 1: in terms of being an all around quarterback, not in
- 35:03Speaker 1: terms of being an all around good football player, but
- 35:05Speaker 1: just in terms of being a passer. Kirk Cousins's head
- 35:09Speaker 1: and shoulders above Sam Donald. I think Sam Darnald right now,
- 35:13Speaker 1: the success we're seeing out of him is a product
- 35:16Speaker 1: of having a really good head coach who was a
- 35:18Speaker 1: quarterback himself, who's calling really good plays, and Sam Darnald
- 35:22Speaker 1: is just making the best possible read in the moment,
- 35:25Speaker 1: and I think Kirk Cousins is very different in that
- 35:29Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins still had Kevin O'Connell calling really good plays,
- 35:33Speaker 1: and he was also being put in good position to
- 35:36Speaker 1: make good throws and make good reads. But I think
- 35:39Speaker 1: Kirk had a much better view of the field and
- 35:44Speaker 1: also a view of the game.
- 35:45Speaker 2: We didn't see a whole lot of Kirk taking sacks.
- 35:50Speaker 3: We saw a lot of Kirk sacks, but before he
- 35:53Speaker 3: would get sacked, oftentimes he would try to get rid
- 35:56Speaker 3: of it because he was smart and he knew that
- 35:57Speaker 3: if I can get rid of it without getting any
- 36:00Speaker 3: sort of intentional grounding penalty or anything like that, it's
- 36:03Speaker 3: going to.
- 36:03Speaker 1: Be better off for my offense. I don't know that
- 36:08Speaker 1: Sam Donald can compete with Kirk Cousins that way, and
- 36:11Speaker 1: I'm not don't hear me say that. I wish Kirk
- 36:14Speaker 1: Cousins were back because I love what Sam.
- 36:16Speaker 2: Donald is doing right now.
- 36:18Speaker 1: But coming all the way back to the point I
- 36:19Speaker 1: originally made, if we don't have that running game to
- 36:23Speaker 1: back up Sam Donald, and Sam Donald has to throw
- 36:26Speaker 1: fifty times a game, I don't think that bodes well
- 36:29Speaker 1: for the Vikings. It didn't bode well for the Vikings
- 36:31Speaker 1: when Kirk Cousins was doing it. He had to do
- 36:33Speaker 1: it all year last year until he tore his achilles, so.
- 36:37Speaker 2: Half the year.
- 36:37Speaker 1: So yeah, but yeah, we need a solid running game.
- 36:42Speaker 1: I'm a strong advocate right now.
- 36:44Speaker 3: If if I had a blank check, and I could
- 36:47Speaker 3: give it to Quacy and just say go get your guy.
- 36:50Speaker 2: I would do it. Well.
- 36:53Speaker 3: Things change a little bit when you're five to zero
- 36:56Speaker 3: and a run seems possible, You're more willing to mortgage
- 37:02Speaker 3: a little bit of the future draft picks or things
- 37:04Speaker 3: like that. So it'll be interesting to see if they
- 37:07Speaker 3: do make any moves. I think they definitely should if
- 37:12Speaker 3: Aaron Jones is hurt now and if he's gonna miss
- 37:15Speaker 3: some time.
- 37:17Speaker 2: But I don't know.
- 37:18Speaker 3: I am gonna I'm gonna go back a little bit.
- 37:20Speaker 3: I'm gonna disagree with you. You should say politely. I
- 37:23Speaker 3: still love you. But I think if everything was equal
- 37:28Speaker 3: and we could magically flip a switch and have Kirk
- 37:31Speaker 3: Cousins on the team instead of Sam Donald, like, I'd
- 37:36Speaker 3: still easily pick.
- 37:37Speaker 2: Sam Donald right now, really easily. That's not the point
- 37:41Speaker 2: I was trying to.
- 37:42Speaker 3: I know, I know, but just what I was trying,
- 37:44Speaker 3: what I was saying earlier, how everything about it just
- 37:46Speaker 3: kind of dawned on me that it just seems like
- 37:48Speaker 3: every everything good or bad, Kirk does. It seems like
- 37:53Speaker 3: he's trying one hundred percent more than everybody else has
- 37:56Speaker 3: to try. And I agree with you, he probably understands
- 37:59Speaker 3: the game extremely well we've seen it, he's proven it.
- 38:03Speaker 3: He could probably make for a really good like offensive coordinator.
- 38:07Speaker 3: You know, he's a good football mind. But I wonder
- 38:10Speaker 3: if he's.
- 38:12Speaker 2: I think he can be.
- 38:15Speaker 3: But I wonder if Sam Darnald. Maybe he doesn't have
- 38:19Speaker 3: that you know, computer in his brain where you can
- 38:22Speaker 3: see everything on the field kind of mapping out as is.
- 38:25Speaker 3: But I wonder if that lack of over analytics helps
- 38:30Speaker 3: him because he can hear KOC say, Okay, you got
- 38:34Speaker 3: option one, two or three. And I'm being super simple
- 38:36Speaker 3: about this because I would never even understand it. But
- 38:38Speaker 3: maybe he just says, like, okay, only got three options.
- 38:41Speaker 3: One's not there too.
- 38:42Speaker 2: Oh there we go. Hey it was a fifty yard touchdown. Sweet,
- 38:44Speaker 2: that's awesome.
- 38:45Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, I think the mixture of KOC
- 38:49Speaker 3: and Sam Donald and potentially even in the future which
- 38:53Speaker 3: we'll get hopefully, the mixture of KOC and JJ McCarthy
- 38:57Speaker 3: is better than the mixture of KOC and Kirk cousins
- 39:00Speaker 3: because you got two elite minds going and there might
- 39:04Speaker 3: be some little friendly, you know, arguments going on in
- 39:08Speaker 3: difference of opinions, and if you're the guy in the field,
- 39:11Speaker 3: you can look up and make a pass and if
- 39:13Speaker 3: the coach says, what are you doing? I could have
- 39:14Speaker 3: had something better for you there, which we've seen, you know,
- 39:17Speaker 3: the sideline video of koc saying that to Kirk Cousins
- 39:20Speaker 3: after a failed fourth you know, down conversion. Like maybe
- 39:24Speaker 3: Sam Darnold doesn't maybe he takes the something better rather
- 39:27Speaker 3: than Kirk Cousins doing his own thing.
- 39:30Speaker 1: I think the like, here's the solid take that I'll
- 39:32Speaker 1: make right now. Kirk Cousins without a running back, oh,
- 39:37Speaker 1: fifty one yard attempt off the upright, no good watching
- 39:43Speaker 1: Monday night football right now.
- 39:44Speaker 2: I wouldn't know what that's like. Our kicker's perfect, so
- 39:49Speaker 2: I know, don't jax it man come on.
- 39:52Speaker 1: Anyways, The point I'm trying to make, I think is
- 39:55Speaker 1: and this is the hot take that I'll make right now,
- 39:57Speaker 1: and I'll stick with it.
- 39:59Speaker 2: That's fine.
- 39:59Speaker 1: I think Kirk Cousins is a better quarterback when you
- 40:02Speaker 1: don't have a running game to back up. I can
- 40:05Speaker 1: see that the quarterback position, because he is the guy
- 40:10Speaker 1: that can throw five hundred yards on forty whatever attempts
- 40:15Speaker 1: and score four touchdowns. You know, like he's not the
- 40:18Speaker 1: guy that's gonna get you a touchdown on his legs, probably,
- 40:22Speaker 1: except we watched him do that once.
- 40:24Speaker 2: Yeah, we did against the Cardinals.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Yeah, He's not the guy that's going to just, you know,
- 40:32Speaker 1: make stuff out of thin air like Patrick Mahomes does.
- 40:35Speaker 2: But he is. He is going to win.
- 40:38Speaker 1: Called upon, throw the ball a crap ton, and he's
- 40:42Speaker 1: probably gonna complete a lot of passes. He's probably gonna
- 40:44Speaker 1: throw for a lot of yards. He's probably gonna find
- 40:45Speaker 1: open guys downfield and get in the end zone. That's
- 40:48Speaker 1: just kind of what Kirk does. I think Sam Darnold again,
- 40:54Speaker 1: he's he's a little more maybe simplistic in the way
- 40:56Speaker 1: he plays the game. He needs that running game to
- 40:59Speaker 1: back him up, to help him when the play is called.
- 41:05Speaker 1: One of the things I've noticed a lot this season
- 41:07Speaker 1: is Kevin O'Connell loves to call naked bootleg plays. He
- 41:11Speaker 1: did a ton with Kirk Cousins, and Kirk Cousins excels
- 41:14Speaker 1: in that situation where he's peeling out on his own
- 41:17Speaker 1: and he's just looking downfield making his reeds, finds the
- 41:21Speaker 1: open guy and throws it. Sam Darnold does that pretty
- 41:24Speaker 1: well too. But if you're gonna do that, those naked
- 41:29Speaker 1: bootlegs typically run off of a play action, so you
- 41:33Speaker 1: can't have that play action game and the defense isn't
- 41:36Speaker 1: gonna bite on the play action if the run game
- 41:39Speaker 1: isn't there. And that was the case last year when
- 41:41Speaker 1: Kirk was still healthy. We had to rely on Kirk
- 41:44Speaker 1: in those games because the run game just wasn't there
- 41:48Speaker 1: and you could fake the handoff, but the defense new
- 41:54Speaker 1: Kirk's gonna roll out and he's just gonna slice and
- 41:56Speaker 1: dice us all day because that's just what he does.
- 41:59Speaker 1: It's more effective this year because the run game keeps everything. Honest,
- 42:03Speaker 1: I'm belaboring this point so much, but I'm really passionate
- 42:06Speaker 1: about it. You are, You're You're bringing me more towards
- 42:09Speaker 1: your side. I'm still for what I said earlier. I'm
- 42:11Speaker 1: still gonna hold back fast on what i said, but
- 42:14Speaker 1: I'm more understanding what you're saying. And I think you're
- 42:17Speaker 1: you're making good points and definitely take Sam over Kirk,
- 42:21Speaker 1: Like five and oh is so much better, and I like.
- 42:24Speaker 2: That's the thing we could argue about all.
- 42:28Speaker 1: I'd rather be five and oh and like, oh yeah,
- 42:30Speaker 1: we outscored our opponents forty eight to three in the
- 42:32Speaker 1: first quarter, then like, oh my gosh, we're three and
- 42:35Speaker 1: two and we've barely won the three games that we've won.
- 42:37Speaker 3: Yeah, So I guess the last thing I'll say about
- 42:40Speaker 3: that point is, and you've kind of brought this idea
- 42:44Speaker 3: out of me by saying, like, you know, Kirk without
- 42:47Speaker 3: a run game is probably better. You know, Kirk can
- 42:51Speaker 3: be that superman. But what if we said every game
- 42:55Speaker 3: this whole season for the Vikings, one thing either one
- 42:59Speaker 3: of us or both of us have said. It's like, yeah,
- 43:01Speaker 3: the best thing is, like, we didn't need a superman today.
- 43:04Speaker 3: We didn't need five hundred yards from Jefferson, Sam Dartl
- 43:07Speaker 3: didn't need to throw five hundred and nine yards like
- 43:10Speaker 3: Kirk had to come back and do against you know,
- 43:12Speaker 3: on Thursday Night football. I think, and I think one
- 43:16Speaker 3: of us said this recently, maybe the superman quote unquote
- 43:19Speaker 3: is KOC and Brian Flores. And I think when you
- 43:25Speaker 3: have and this is going to sound probably like a
- 43:27Speaker 3: dig I'm a Kirk Cousins fan.
- 43:29Speaker 2: I like the guy.
- 43:30Speaker 3: I think he's a good dude and a good quarterback.
- 43:33Speaker 3: I think if he's gonna win games, it's because he
- 43:37Speaker 3: was the superman and if your quarterback, if you're Kirk Cousins,
- 43:43Speaker 3: is if he's the superman on your team, then your
- 43:45Speaker 3: coach kind of doesn't get the chance to be the superman.
- 43:48Speaker 3: He doesn't get the chance to shine from the sideline
- 43:51Speaker 3: because Kirk is wheeling and dealing and doing his own
- 43:54Speaker 3: thing on the field, and that's the thing. He can
- 43:56Speaker 3: only see what he sees on the field, and the
- 43:58Speaker 3: coach needs. Maybe the best teams are because the coach
- 44:01Speaker 3: is a superman. I mean, yeah, you're gonna get Brady
- 44:03Speaker 3: who obviously it was Brady and not Belichick, but it
- 44:06Speaker 3: was a little Belichick, you know, during those two decades,
- 44:09Speaker 3: but it was mostly Brady like he was a superman.
- 44:12Speaker 3: I think I think Kirk can't win unless he's the
- 44:16Speaker 3: superman because he's forcing things. And maybe that's what I'm
- 44:19Speaker 3: picking up on is everything seems harder for him, and
- 44:22Speaker 3: if he is a superman and he's not very super
- 44:25Speaker 3: that day, then they're not gonna win. I don't know,
- 44:28Speaker 3: Like I guess that's that's all I can say is
- 44:31Speaker 3: maybe Koc is a better superman than Kirk, and that's
- 44:35Speaker 3: why this team is five and zero right now.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I can definitely get on board with that. Well,
- 44:39Speaker 1: let's transition quickly, because we've we've talked a lot about
- 44:42Speaker 1: this game.
- 44:43Speaker 2: If you're still listening, we're sorry. We still haven't looked ahead.
- 44:47Speaker 1: Not that there's a game to look ahead too, because
- 44:49Speaker 1: it's a bye week, but we can still look ahead
- 44:50Speaker 1: to the remaining schedule after the bye week. But who
- 44:54Speaker 1: are you gonna give a game ball to? After this
- 44:57Speaker 1: victory over the Jets in London?
- 44:58Speaker 3: I feel like these offense because we'll do offense, defense,
- 45:02Speaker 3: and special teams. Okay, first off, I think the clearest
- 45:06Speaker 3: cut special teams, maybe the clearest cut game ball overall,
- 45:10Speaker 3: will the thrill? So I think both of us are
- 45:12Speaker 3: gonna say, will the thrill for special teams?
- 45:14Speaker 2: Yep?
- 45:15Speaker 3: Especially since special teams is kind of scary right now,
- 45:17Speaker 3: like outside of the field goal kicking game, like the
- 45:20Speaker 3: punning game is scary. And it's not even just because
- 45:23Speaker 3: of Ryan, right.
- 45:24Speaker 1: It's He's not the problem. It's the coverage downfield. That's
- 45:30Speaker 1: all it comes down to. There was a play and
- 45:33Speaker 1: I brought this up in our reaction video, and I
- 45:35Speaker 1: think the league should I think the league should look
- 45:37Speaker 1: at this. I think the Jets player, the Jets returner
- 45:42Speaker 1: made a good play. I thought it was a smart play,
- 45:45Speaker 1: but I don't know that it should be a legal
- 45:47Speaker 1: play long term. He just flung his leg out and
- 45:51Speaker 1: caught the Vikings gunner and made it look like he
- 45:55Speaker 1: ran into him. Like that's legitimately what happened. It wasn't
- 45:59Speaker 1: that the Vikings gonna ran into him on purpose. It
- 46:02Speaker 1: was that the returner put himself in harm's way to
- 46:06Speaker 1: make it look like he got run into.
- 46:08Speaker 3: And to double down on that, because you're talking about
- 46:10Speaker 3: when the vi one of the times the Vikings punted
- 46:12Speaker 3: the ball and a Caleb Evans, it was like fair
- 46:16Speaker 3: catch interference, kick catch interference, whatever that penalties called. A
- 46:21Speaker 3: Caleb Evans got called on that. And there are a
- 46:24Speaker 3: few factors, the biggest being that returner did seem to
- 46:27Speaker 3: kind of flare his leg out a little bit, but
- 46:29Speaker 3: also the returner did that because he noticed the Viking
- 46:32Speaker 3: was being blocked into his direction. So yeah, maybe a
- 46:36Speaker 3: Caleb Evans could have been able to do a little
- 46:38Speaker 3: bit different to not get called for that, but he
- 46:40Speaker 3: was still being blocked into the returner, and the returner
- 46:43Speaker 3: helped that situation a little bit.
- 46:46Speaker 1: But I think this is a little bit of a
- 46:48Speaker 1: gray area in terms of officiating. I don't remember what
- 46:51Speaker 1: game it was, but I was watching another game yesterday.
- 46:53Speaker 1: It was either in the late afternoon window or the
- 46:56Speaker 1: Sunday night game last night, but there was another pun
- 47:00Speaker 1: return that I watched where.
- 47:04Speaker 3: I'm not going to describe this very well, this is
- 47:07Speaker 3: not going to go very well. But the returner is
- 47:10Speaker 3: awaiting the return.
- 47:11Speaker 1: He didn't he he did not call for a fair
- 47:14Speaker 1: catch and his own guy got pushed into him by
- 47:18Speaker 1: the defending team and the ball went awry and it
- 47:22Speaker 1: was kind of a mess, and I forget who recovered it,
- 47:24Speaker 1: But there was no penalty on the play. And if
- 47:28Speaker 1: that's not a penalty, then the returner himself putting himself
- 47:32Speaker 1: flailing himself out there to get hit intentionally, it should
- 47:36Speaker 1: also not be a penalty in my opinion. Yeah, so
- 47:41Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of a gray area
- 47:43Speaker 1: in the league. But anyways, special teams game ball will
- 47:46Speaker 1: record will record two fifty plus yard field goals, all
- 47:50Speaker 1: the extra points.
- 47:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 47:52Speaker 3: I think I saw something too, like at some point
- 47:56Speaker 3: yesterday Record's wife like posted an Instagram post something like, hey, yeah,
- 48:01Speaker 3: since we've been in London. You know, it's throwing off
- 48:04Speaker 3: our sleep schedule and he's going off four hours of
- 48:07Speaker 3: sleep heading into the game, and like, I don't know
- 48:10Speaker 3: if that's true. Then he was going off four hours
- 48:11Speaker 3: of sleep heading into the game and he still nailed
- 48:14Speaker 3: to fifty plus yard field goals plus a couple extra points. Like, yeah,
- 48:20Speaker 3: we got a good one so far. I'm here for it,
- 48:23Speaker 3: and yeah, game ball for special teams, Will Record all right.
- 48:26Speaker 2: Offense, defense, who are you giving game balls too? Oh? Man?
- 48:29Speaker 3: Offense is tough, just because it did kind of kind
- 48:34Speaker 3: of suck a little bit. You know what I'm going
- 48:36Speaker 3: I'm doing it. C J Ham, you stole mine.
- 48:39Speaker 2: I was gonna get on him. Hey, that's fine. We
- 48:41Speaker 2: can both say the same one for that too.
- 48:43Speaker 3: C J. Ham scored the only offensive touchdown, right, yes, yeah, because.
- 48:49Speaker 2: It was c J.
- 48:49Speaker 3: Ham, and then Van Ginkle scored on the pick six,
- 48:53Speaker 3: which made it fourteen.
- 48:55Speaker 2: Those are the only two touchdowns.
- 48:57Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because then will Record finished everything. Yeah, cjm
- 49:01Speaker 3: He had like a nine yard run earlier in the
- 49:03Speaker 3: game and then that handful of yard touchdown.
- 49:07Speaker 2: Give it to him. He earned it.
- 49:09Speaker 1: It was just good to see him back in action.
- 49:12Speaker 1: Not just like you know, blocking on an offensive play
- 49:15Speaker 1: or you know, gunning downfield on a punt return or whatever,
- 49:19Speaker 1: just contributing in a very noticeable way. I love that
- 49:24Speaker 1: guy famously, famously the guy that you said could be
- 49:28Speaker 1: cut before the cut two years.
- 49:31Speaker 2: Ago, and I thought he'd be cut again this year.
- 49:32Speaker 2: But here he is. He might.
- 49:34Speaker 3: They might sign him again after this. I mean he's
- 49:36Speaker 3: obviously I'm here for it.
- 49:38Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I don't know him personally, but I know
- 49:42Speaker 1: people that know him.
- 49:43Speaker 2: So two degrees separator.
- 49:46Speaker 3: I joked about it because I think you said those
- 49:47Speaker 3: exact words, like on episode one or two of the School,
- 49:51Speaker 3: and I said it, then we need to get him
- 49:53Speaker 3: on the show. So I think I even said, like, hey,
- 49:55Speaker 3: breaking new school hoppers. So at some point where he's
- 49:58Speaker 3: the c J Ham, I'll work.
- 50:00Speaker 2: On that connection. I'll work on that connection. He might
- 50:03Speaker 2: do it. He might do it. He's a good dude.
- 50:05Speaker 3: Maybe not in season. That'd be a pretty tough ask
- 50:07Speaker 3: to come on a podcast when you're to get him
- 50:09Speaker 3: in the summer it's the bye week though, I don't know.
- 50:11Speaker 3: Maybe Twitter is the thing. Hey c JM, come on
- 50:14Speaker 3: the show. Open invitation for any Vikings player didn't work
- 50:18Speaker 3: when we did that for president, we did that for
- 50:21Speaker 3: Harrison Smith, and I don't even think we got a
- 50:24Speaker 3: like on that tweet, Dald Riisner.
- 50:26Speaker 2: Man, he's just sitting around right now. Oh man, we
- 50:29Speaker 2: can get him on.
- 50:29Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna come on after you just
- 50:31Speaker 3: said that. I'm sure he's not just eating chips and
- 50:34Speaker 3: that's not sleeping on the couch.
- 50:36Speaker 2: The implication he's injured, he's working his way back. He
- 50:40Speaker 2: could come back soon. He's not playing, he could all.
- 50:43Speaker 3: Right, defensive game ball, I think there's there's a couple
- 50:49Speaker 3: options I'm going unless you want to go first.
- 50:53Speaker 2: I think the obvious one is Andrew being Gang.
- 50:55Speaker 3: Okay, I was That's who I was going to go with.
- 50:58Speaker 3: But there's another clear cut option.
- 51:00Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take Van Ginkle. Who are you gonna take?
- 51:02Speaker 3: Stephan Gilmour all right, yeah, the game ceiling interception, it
- 51:06Speaker 3: was funny. I think he tweeted it today, Stephan Gilmore,
- 51:10Speaker 3: and it was like, this is a pretty good list
- 51:12Speaker 3: something to tune of. Like, it's a pretty good list.
- 51:14Speaker 3: I picked off Brady, Peyton and Rogers. Now like I
- 51:19Speaker 3: feel pretty accomplished and Dwight mcleothern like quoted it and
- 51:24Speaker 3: was like, you picked off Peyton. Dang you're old, which
- 51:31Speaker 3: is that's funny, that's hilarious. That's such a like, yeah,
- 51:35Speaker 3: the the jen what's the current one gen z like
- 51:38Speaker 3: or no, those kids are making fun of us for
- 51:41Speaker 3: being old and I think we're about the same age
- 51:44Speaker 3: just as a Stephan Gilmour and like, it's funny.
- 51:49Speaker 2: You need to see that. But that's super funny.
- 51:51Speaker 3: Yeah we should. We should retweet that because that was
- 51:53Speaker 3: pretty funny.
- 51:54Speaker 2: No, I agree with you for sure.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Van Ginkle gets my game ball just for the pick
- 51:59Speaker 1: six and the fact that he's got two in five games,
- 52:02Speaker 1: two pick sixes. Yeah, and I don't think Harrison Smith
- 52:05Speaker 1: has more than two pick sixes in his career.
- 52:09Speaker 3: I don't know he's got like six, like because for
- 52:13Speaker 3: a while he was on the brink of breaking the
- 52:15Speaker 3: Vikings record. That's something we can.
- 52:17Speaker 2: Look up to.
- 52:18Speaker 3: He should look that up. So anyways, I found that tweet.
- 52:22Speaker 3: Stefan Gilmore said, Okay, this is a list I picked
- 52:26Speaker 3: off Brady Peyton and now Rogers and Dwight said, Dwight
- 52:30Speaker 3: mcgleothern Vikings is he on the practice squad or is
- 52:33Speaker 3: he a fifty three man guy. I think he's a
- 52:34Speaker 3: practice squad guy either way. Rookie Viking cornerback said Peyton
- 52:40Speaker 3: bro you's so old, and then three laughing, crying faces.
- 52:44Speaker 2: That's phenomenal. No.
- 52:46Speaker 1: I read some today that Vin Ginkel is on track
- 52:52Speaker 1: for something crazy, like on track to set a franchise
- 52:57Speaker 1: record and possibly more.
- 53:00Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean he might be on track, but
- 53:04Speaker 3: it's also five games.
- 53:05Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty early.
- 53:06Speaker 1: But I mean, did you see you saw that play,
- 53:10Speaker 1: the play that he intercepted Rogers on Like he he
- 53:14Speaker 1: made a step in like he was gonna go blitz.
- 53:17Speaker 1: Then he kind of hesitated for a second and then
- 53:19Speaker 1: he dropped back and then all of a sudden, the
- 53:21Speaker 1: ball was in his hands and he had Aaron Rodgers
- 53:25Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback, arguably one of the best quarterbacks
- 53:28Speaker 1: to play the game, completely bamboozled.
- 53:31Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was.
- 53:32Speaker 3: I've watched the replay so many times and it's it's
- 53:36Speaker 3: it's mastery, it's artwork.
- 53:38Speaker 1: It's just like that guy gets it. He and Brian
- 53:41Speaker 1: Flores put him in that position to make that play.
- 53:44Speaker 3: It's just like Brian Flores is the reason Van Gonkell
- 53:48Speaker 3: is on this team right now and it's working perfectly
- 53:51Speaker 3: because it is a peekaboo. He just like, kind of
- 53:53Speaker 3: I'm blitzing, No, I'm not, and got you got it?
- 53:57Speaker 3: So I just looked it up Harrison Smith. I guess
- 54:00Speaker 3: I can't quickly look up specifically of their pick sixes
- 54:04Speaker 3: or not. But Smith has four defensive touchdowns in his career,
- 54:10Speaker 3: so let's just assume those are all pick sixes. Ben
- 54:13Speaker 3: Gingkle's got half halfway five games, He's halfway there, and
- 54:16Speaker 3: I know that those four pick sixes are decently high
- 54:20Speaker 3: up in Vikings pick six history. So Van Ginkle, Yeah,
- 54:25Speaker 3: maybe he's definitely on pace. I mean, he's on pace
- 54:28Speaker 3: to have what six so far in the season if
- 54:31Speaker 3: he keeps up to every five games, you know, which
- 54:34Speaker 3: that's not gonna happen.
- 54:35Speaker 1: But still he could finish with no more and it
- 54:38Speaker 1: will already have been worth it. Okay, It's just he's
- 54:40Speaker 1: been so fun to watch. Definitely a good addition, and
- 54:43Speaker 1: I think that you gotta go back to like if
- 54:47Speaker 1: we were to give a game ball to just one person,
- 54:51Speaker 1: I almost wonder if Kosia Dopamnza deserves like a game
- 54:55Speaker 1: Ball every week. Just for putting this roster together, getting
- 54:59Speaker 1: these guys as defense, specifically offense. He gets some credit
- 55:03Speaker 1: to Sam Darnold and Aaron Jones for that matter, but man,
- 55:09Speaker 1: the list goes on and on on defense. Harrison Phillips
- 55:12Speaker 1: a few years ago, Jonathan Grenard, Blake Cashman, Andrew van Ginkel,
- 55:19Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmour, Shack Griffin. I just named six guys within
- 55:24Speaker 1: the last two or three years that have been brought in.
- 55:27Speaker 1: Most of those guys were this last year, and they
- 55:30Speaker 1: have revolutionized this defense. And you gotta know, Brian Flores
- 55:34Speaker 1: is like, I want this guy. I want that guy,
- 55:37Speaker 1: go get him. Coached him over here, I coached him
- 55:40Speaker 1: over there, bring him in.
- 55:41Speaker 2: Let's do this.
- 55:42Speaker 1: But it took quasi adopha mensa to do all of
- 55:45Speaker 1: the contract work and to work with their agent and
- 55:49Speaker 1: figure it out.
- 55:49Speaker 2: And he got him here. And they are one of
- 55:54Speaker 2: the best defenses I've seen in the Vikings team ever. Yeah.
- 55:57Speaker 3: Yeah, and statistically they're proving that point. Just to belabor
- 56:02Speaker 3: this talking point even more, I think for that reason,
- 56:07Speaker 3: I've heard specific stories on the radio and stuff about
- 56:11Speaker 3: how Flores had a direct hand in signing a handful
- 56:16Speaker 3: of those guys that you just listed off, plus some more,
- 56:20Speaker 3: and I think Brian Flores, which is a good thing.
- 56:23Speaker 3: It's not to undercut quacy at all. Brian Flores has
- 56:26Speaker 3: had a major hand in shaping not only the system
- 56:30Speaker 3: but the personnel of the Vikings current defense, and for
- 56:33Speaker 3: that reason we heard from Dustin Baker that Flores is
- 56:38Speaker 3: highly compensated. I don't think that information is out there
- 56:43Speaker 3: as easily as you can find player paid player salary information.
- 56:47Speaker 3: But if the Vikings could somehow convince Flores, and maybe
- 56:53Speaker 3: it's not even in his hands to make this decision
- 56:56Speaker 3: to stay with the team for a while. Oh, Pat
- 57:02Speaker 3: Mahomes just threw an interception of the end zone to
- 57:05Speaker 3: what looks like a defensive tackle who is already close
- 57:08Speaker 3: to the forty yard line and a return.
- 57:10Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 57:11Speaker 3: That was big breaking news for people listening to this,
- 57:14Speaker 3: you know, twelve, fifteen, twenty four, or however many hours
- 57:17Speaker 3: from now.
- 57:17Speaker 2: But that's funny.
- 57:19Speaker 3: Anyways, Brian Floras the Vikings need, if they already haven't
- 57:23Speaker 3: blank check. He might be the most important piece of
- 57:26Speaker 3: the team, more than Koc, more than JJ McCarthy or
- 57:30Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson like Flora's you could argue, is the biggest
- 57:34Speaker 3: puzzle piece on this team.
- 57:35Speaker 1: And that'll come down to the Wolfs and whatever they're
- 57:37Speaker 1: willing to pay, I think, honestly.
- 57:39Speaker 3: Well, and I said, maybe it's not in Flora's hands anyways,
- 57:42Speaker 3: because he is still actively suing the NFL, Like maybe
- 57:47Speaker 3: they just nobody will hire him if that's still going on.
- 57:50Speaker 3: And you know, he's gotten some good deals just because
- 57:55Speaker 3: he's such a good defensive mind.
- 57:57Speaker 1: So well, and maybe this is just one you know,
- 58:01Speaker 1: I don't say these things lightly, but maybe sticking with
- 58:04Speaker 1: the Vikings is just one giant middle finger to the league, Like, no,
- 58:08Speaker 1: you don't want me to be a head coach, all right,
- 58:10Speaker 1: I'll just destroy every single team that you throw my
- 58:14Speaker 1: way with my outstanding defense.
- 58:17Speaker 3: Hey, I'm I'm okay with that. If that's the case
- 58:19Speaker 3: and it's working, obviously, I'm here for it.
- 58:23Speaker 2: I'm on here for it.
- 58:25Speaker 1: And it's been super fun to watch so far.
- 58:27Speaker 3: All right, So game balls, we had c J. Ham,
- 58:30Speaker 3: we had Van Ginkel slash Stefan Gilmour on the defense,
- 58:34Speaker 3: and then obviously wool Record on special teams.
- 58:38Speaker 2: I think we did it.
- 58:38Speaker 3: I think we belabored and we totally talked about the
- 58:42Speaker 3: Vikings beating the Jets across the pond. Didn't have to
- 58:46Speaker 3: make excuses for why the Vikings lost, because they didn't lose.
- 58:49Speaker 3: They they got the job done. And now they get
- 58:52Speaker 3: a week off, Yeah they do, and it's a good
- 58:55Speaker 3: time to kind of talk about the rest of the
- 58:57Speaker 3: rest of the season, the rest of the NFC North.
- 59:00Speaker 3: So I guess real quick, we don't have to blabor this,
- 59:03Speaker 3: but snap snap opinions and reactions, one or two sentences
- 59:08Speaker 3: each for each of the other teams in the NFC North.
- 59:11Speaker 3: What do you think about the Lions so far, how
- 59:13Speaker 3: they've been, and how they'll be the rest of the year.
- 59:15Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I haven't really paid attention to the
- 59:18Speaker 1: Lions or the Bears, And the only attention I've given
- 59:21Speaker 1: to the Packers is the game that they played against
- 59:23Speaker 1: the Vikings where they were down twenty eight to nothing
- 59:26Speaker 1: shortly before halftime. That being said, going really off of
- 59:31Speaker 1: record alone and just the random headlines I've seen, I
- 59:37Speaker 1: still think the Lions.
- 59:38Speaker 2: Are a force to be reckoned with.
- 59:40Speaker 3: I think they're a well coached team, They've got a
- 59:42Speaker 3: good roster, I'm nervous for those two games that the
- 59:46Speaker 3: Vikings still have to play against the Lions.
- 59:50Speaker 2: The Packers.
- 59:52Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the Packers at all. I think
- 59:55Speaker 1: the Vikings proved they can handle the Packers. They get
- 59:59Speaker 1: the Packers at home in their next game. Not worried
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: about it. I think US Bank will be rowdy. They'll
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: put the Packers to sleep, no problem.
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: The Bears.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: I still think they could drop a game to the Bears.
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: I think that presents an interesting like trap game scenario
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: where the Vikings aren't expecting to lose. They go in
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: to Soldier Field, or they go into us Bank Stadium
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: hosting the Bears, and you know, that could be one
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: of those situations where they find themselves in the lost
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: column just because they're not prepared for what's on the
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: other side. The Bears haven't been great, but they also
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: haven't been a like a laughing stock of the league
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: necessarily so Caleb Williams has shown flashes of being great.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: He doesn't have the offensive line to block for him,
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: and he doesn't have all the weapons that Sam Darnold
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: has at his exposure.
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: But you could argue, if they're all healthy, they played
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: some fantasy football over the offseason, and he's got some weapons,
- 1:01:04Speaker 3: but yeah, they're not all healthy right.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: Now, so I'm most concerned about the Lions and then
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: maybe dropping a game to the Bears. That's kind of
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: where I say the NFC North right now.
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll agree with you about the Lions. I
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: think the last well, the last time they played football.
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: We were recording episode sixty of The Skull Hop last Monday,
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: and they handled business, didn't They win forty two to
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: something last week on Monday Night football? So they're they're
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: looking good. You can't deny that they're a good team.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: I mean, they went to the NFC Championship last year
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: and they didn't get worse over the offseason, So yeah,
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: they're They're probably the biggest threat. Although I will kind
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: of disagree between the Packers and the Bears. I think
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: the Packers, I mean, they played the Rams pretty well yesterday,
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: and maybe I mean the Bears beat the Rams a
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: week ago, so maybe that's just the Rams not being
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: great and Packers looking good against a bad team. I
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: don't know, but I think once Love heals up fully,
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: because he's still not one hundred percent, they'll be the
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: second biggest threat for the Vikings in the North. The
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: best part is the Vikings currently have I mean it
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: could be as much as a two game lead against
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: all of these teams right now. The Lions are three
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: and one, so they were on their by yesterday, so
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: they have a two win lead against the Lions, but
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: they have one last game played. I think the Vikings
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: are in a good spot. I think they could split
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: the next couple of games or the two games they
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: play against the Lions, and I think they'll they'll beat
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: the Packers again. But like you said, I think that
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: they might fall into that trap and split lose one
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: game to the Bears because they're not gonna go undefeated.
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: They're gonna have a sloppy game, or the ball's gonna
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: bounce not their way once or twice, and I feel
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: like that always happens against the Bears. So yeah, I
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: think I said earlier that I would kind of say
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: how many games I think the Vikings would lose, So
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: I just said two losses right there. I think there's
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: a chance they could lose to the likes of maybe
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: the Titans or the Seahawks. So I think probably two
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: losses remaining in the season that you can predict and
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: maybe three. Of course, injury could derail that whole thing too,
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we're both pretty much in agreeance.
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: Do you think at this point the Vikings win the division?
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: I think they win the division on the trajectory that
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: they're on, of course. I think what's interesting about the
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: Vikings schedule is they go home away home in the
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: next three games after the bye Lions Rams Colts. You're
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: gonna be at the Lions game. Yeah, that'll be exciting,
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: that'll be fun. But when they get done with that
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: Colts game at home, they go on a three game
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: road trip to Jacksonville, to Tennessee, to Chicago, and then
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: they're home for three games against Arizona, Atlanta, and Chicago.
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: So that's a really interesting stretch there where they're away
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: for three games and they're East Coast, East Coast, Central Time,
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: and then home, home, home. I think it's going to
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: come down to those six games. I think the division
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: will come to those six games because they've got what
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: two division games. They go to Chicago and then they
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: play Chicago to kind of they end the road trip
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: at Chicago, and then they end the home stand against Chicago.
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: And who knows in that time.
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: I haven't really paid that much attention to the Lions
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: schedule to the Packers schedule, but if the Vikings drop
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: a few games in there, the Packers of the Lions
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: could kind of sneak in a little bit. I'm not
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: expecting that, but that could be where the Packers of
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: the Lions kind of creep into that divisional champion kind.
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: Of status there.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: Yeah, so it'll make for a really interesting end of
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: the season because they have to travel to Seattle, then
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: they get the Packers at home, and then they go
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: to Detroit to end the season. So the schedule is
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: it's really interesting, honestly, And I don't know that it's
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: a wash for the Vikings. I don't think they finished
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: seventeen and zero.
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: I can't it, just because that's so hard, like something
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: bad happens, even if there were a perfect team, which
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: they're not.
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: It's more impossible now than it was for the Dolphins
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: back when, or the Patriots back when, you know, when
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: they were only fifteen or sixteen games in the schedule.
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: Now there's seventeen games in the schedule, and it sounds
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: like Roger Goodell wants to add another game to the
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: schedule and basically wipe out the possibility of any team
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: going undefeated. Yeah, because eighteen games undefeated in a regular season,
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: Holy cow, that's unheard of.
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: But I do think so. A big you know, circle
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: the calendar game is when the Vikings host the Falcons. Yeah,
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: I forget which week number that is, but there's what one, two, three, four, five, six,
- 1:06:14Speaker 3: seven games between now and then. I think there's a
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: real chance the Vikings are eleven and one, twelve and
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: oh by the time Kirk Cousins walks into the building again.
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: Injuries are about the only thing that totally scares me
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: and says they could drop a bunch of games, but
- 1:06:38Speaker 3: maybe the lack of a superman kind of shields you
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: from injuries, which is something you've said a few times
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: in recent episodes. Yeah, I think there's a real chance
- 1:06:45Speaker 3: they lose one or no games between now and when
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins next walks into US Bank Stadium, which is
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: kind of scary to think about.
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: I think the two Lions games, the Falcons game in
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: the Seahawks game, and the remaining Packers game. I think
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: those are the five games that the Vikings really have
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: to be on high alert for I think KOs and
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: Brian Flores really have to game plan for. Not to
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: say that those other games they don't have to be
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: ready to go, but I feel like the Rams, the Colts,
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: the Jags, the Titans, the Cardinals, those are all winnable
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: games just based on how those teams have played so far,
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: based on the personnel those teams have, how they've been coached.
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: And one or two of those could end up being
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: a trap game for sure, that's the definition of a
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: trap game, and you're just not expecting it and then
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: all of a sudden you lose because you weren't expecting it.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: But again, based on everything we know right now, those
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: five games seem really winnable. That to me puts the
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: Vikings a ten wins guaranteed.
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: Man, that's tough. That's kind of crazy think about, because
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: that seems like you are just saying, worst case scenario,
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: five more wins, Like.
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: I'm here for it. Let's go. Yeah, it's been a
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: really fun five game.
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: Let's hope they keep it up, keep making it fun,
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: because this isn't like twenty twenty two when you're winning
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: every game. But it's a nail bider down to the
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: last second. There's been a couple close ones, but this
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: team is good.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: So make a hot take right now? Do the Vikings
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: yes or no? Do the Vikings need to make a
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: trade for a running back right now based on what
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: we know about.
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: Aaron Jones right this second? Yeah, this moment, I don't
- 1:08:41Speaker 3: think they need to right now. Okay, I think because,
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: like I said, everything that's come out seems like Aaron
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: Jones should be ready to go by the time the
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: Vikings play the Lions after this by a week. So
- 1:08:55Speaker 3: as of right now, if they had to make that
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: decision right this second, no, I don't think they have
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: to because there are some other guys on the roster
- 1:09:04Speaker 3: who knows maybe if ty Chandler not Aaron Chandler or
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: Chandler Jones or whatever I said with Dustin Baker, if
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: ty Chandler knows going into the week that he's going
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: to be RB one, and we kind of said they're
- 1:09:17Speaker 3: gonna have to pitch count Aaron Jones at some point anyways,
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: and he's been playing a lot so far. But no,
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: I think they could get to that point. But as
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: of right now, no, I think they can still move forward.
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: If Aaron Jones is hip totally disintegrates, then yes they
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: need to make a move.
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: That's interesting given your pessimism towards Aaron Jones the SEC season.
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: But I think I'm with you. I think the Vikings
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: ride this out through the bye week. Let's see if
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: we can get Aaron Jones healthy, get him back. I'm
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: a big believer in a strong running game backing up
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: this offense. They don't necessarily need to be like scoring
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: touchdowns left and right. They need to do enough on
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: the ground. We need we need to move the ball
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: and gain positive yards on the ground in order to
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: keep the defense honest and open up plays downfield. For
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ. Hawkinson, hopefully he's coming back.
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: Probably not against the Lions.
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, they're saying either Lions or Lions
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: or Rams.
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: Yeah, is that what Dustin said to us that his
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: source was kind of saying, hey, Rams, that's already the plan.
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: So yeah, two to three weeks we'll see TJ back hopefully.
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot to look forward to though, and
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: next week we'll have, you know, the Lions game to
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: look forward to. We won't have to spin the wheel
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: next week because there's no game. Correct, So that's good news.
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: I was going to ask you weeks off? Are we
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: having episode sixty two a week from now? Or are
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: we taking the buy off? We hadn't really talked.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: About that well on air production meeting. Yeah, we haven't
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: taken a week off in a long time. We haven't.
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: I'm here for it.
- 1:11:04Speaker 3: Let's keep going, keep going, Episode sixty two seven days
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: from now.
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: Let's go. That was gonna be my my knee jerk reaction.
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: We got beer in the fridge, that's true.
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: Yeah, we've proven time and time again you and I
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: can sit and talk Vikings football for a long time.
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: I will say I looked at the recording time earlier
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: and felt like, man, we're blowing through this. We might
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: be done quick. And it was like thirty two minutes
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: and now here we are sitting at like one hundred
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: over an hour and ten minutes, and we're just now
- 1:11:36Speaker 3: starting to kind of come down a little bit.
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: So if you're still with us, we appreciate it. Yeah,
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: we do.
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: If you listen to the end, man, you are a
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: true school hot fan. We should hook him up with
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: a sticker or something.
- 1:11:46Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, let us know, send us an email.
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: If you're still here, send us an email and we'll
- 1:11:51Speaker 3: send you a sticker for sure.
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: Something I wanted to point out really quick, just because
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: I can see it on your screen over there. Our
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: Bettendorf Bulldogs number one in the state.
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: Right there, you go.
- 1:12:01Speaker 3: I'm here for that too. Another undefeated football team. Let's go,
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: yeah on Gold Eggs School Dogs.
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: So our alma mater, our high school undefeated right now
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: in Iowa high school five A football, which is a
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: lot of fun. Their kicker he made a fifty something yarder.
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: I think it was fifty four or fifty six.
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: I'd have to go back and go.
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: Will Reiker have our own right in our own hometown here.
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: Yeah, and he that kid was fired up. It was
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: kind of all over the internet.
- 1:12:32Speaker 4: He was.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: He was pumped after he made that kick. It was
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: pretty awesome. He didn't have to kick that. They were
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: already winning by quite a bit, but they put him
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: out there and hey, what do you got? Kicked it,
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: and I think he got a little distracted on the sideline.
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: He was celebrating with his teammates, and then coach came over.
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: I was like, hey, hey, kickoff. You gotta go kick off. Now,
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: that's funny. Anyways, Yeah, that's sweet.
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: Maybe another maybe it'll just be a whole championship year
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: for Yeah, for.
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: Us, it's looking like a trip to the Unidome for
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: the Bulldogs though, which is fun.
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: Let's go. You mean the Skulldogs. Yeah, that's what I meant.
- 1:13:07Speaker 3: We'll do the Skulldog chant in what I said. You're
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: reping you and I right now too. That's pretty sweet.
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: So I know it's a couple weeks away. We'll have
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: a full episode between now and then. But just looking
- 1:13:18Speaker 3: at our picks for the Lions game, you and I
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: have made preseason predictions that the Vikings would beat the Lions,
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: and the coin said they'd lose.
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: So far, the.
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: Coin is one hundred percent correct.
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: That is true.
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: The coin is the only one to pick everything accurately
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: so far. So if you didn't know at the beginning
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: of the season we made preseason picks, we flipped a
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: coin on an episode.
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: What episode was that was that episode? Fifty something fifty one?
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: Kind of seems right to me.
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: Sure it was back there somewhere, Yeah, it was backaways. Anyways,
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: we flipped a coin for every game. I think heads
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: was a win to was a loss or something like that, and.
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: Then we picked each game.
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: We had our wives pick each game, we had our
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: kids pick each game, and we came to the episode
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: and kind of gave the picks as they existed, and so, yeah,
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: the coin right now is the only perfect.
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: Pick so far. Everyone else predicted.
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: Either three and two or two and three, So we
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: were all kind of meh about the vikings so far.
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: The vikings have.
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: Been more than meh for sure, and it's been fun
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: to watch.
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they've been way more than meh. Yeah, it's
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: been phenomenal. Meh zing Like, let's go.
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: Yeah, so I predicted a win, you predicted a win,
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: the coin predicted a loss. It'll be really interesting to
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: see what happens against the Lions in a couple of weeks.
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: Also, the coin predicted an overall twelve and five season true,
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: So if the coin is right all year, I'm not
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: too mad about it.
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: It's cool. The coin also predicted a wild card loss,
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: so I would be disappointing, but that's that's for episode
- 1:15:08Speaker 2: what like eighty or something like. It did have an
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: idea on air production meeting R two. Let's just extend
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: this episode.
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: So I was thinking about the Wheel of Purple Punishments,
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: and I was thinking about the fact that, you know,
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: now we're gonna have two weeks where we won't have
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: to spin it because we correctly predict the Vikings beating
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: the Jets and the bye week, so we will likely
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: have some things left over on the wheel when the
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: regular season ends.
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: Okay, So my thought is, and you can disagree with.
- 1:15:41Speaker 3: This, yeah, I'm listening.
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: If you decide, But when we get to the playoffs,
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: if the Vikings make the playoffs, and again that's an if,
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: because that's very uncertain right now. I say we spin
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: the wheel in advance the week before the playoff games, okay,
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: and we maybe add some some things to the wheel
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: for the playoffs, and we make them interesting.
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: So if we.
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: If we correctly or incorrectly pick, incorrectly pick and stick with,
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: we'll have to do some interesting things the week after.
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: I'm here for it. Let's go all right, we'll figure
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: that out. We'll iron out the details.
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: Let us know if you have any ideas that we
- 1:16:28Speaker 3: could add to the Wheel of Purple Punishments. We've gotten
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: a couple ideas, like Facebook comment ideas, but uh yeah,
- 1:16:34Speaker 3: stuff we can do immediately on the episode with almost
- 1:16:38Speaker 3: no notice, something we could plan for previously. So not
- 1:16:41Speaker 3: like go on the polar plunge or anything, because we
- 1:16:45Speaker 3: couldn't pick up and go do that right now on
- 1:16:47Speaker 3: the episode, but stuff we.
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: Could do we could figure that out though, we could,
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: Like I think that that would be something where we
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: could like.
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: All right, Evan's gonna do the polar plunge.
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: If we both picked the.
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: Wrong game, we both have to do all right, and
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: then one of our wives is going to have to
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: be out there holding the camera while we go in. Now,
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. But I think the Wheel of
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: Purple Punishments is going to get pretty interesting here. We
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: both predicted the Vikings to beat the Lions. We don't
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: know if that's going to happen. The Lions are still
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: a good football team. But then we start to digress
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: a little bit. You have them winning against the Rams.
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: I have them losing.
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:17:23Speaker 3: The next game that we have the same pick is
- 1:17:26Speaker 3: Week eleven against the Titans. Yeah, we both said they
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: would lose, which, okay.
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: What were we thinking.
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: Uh, Yeah, it'll be an interesting stretch here for the
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: Wheel of Purple Punishments. One of us may have to,
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: I don't know, eat some hollopenos or.
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: Are they free right now? Literally right there, eat an
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: entire jar of pickles.
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: We did that once. We can't fine, I could do that.
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: Drink beer out of a crazy straw.
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: I do too, yea. We might need that for the
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: wear a fake beard. Yeah, yeah, all right.
- 1:18:01Speaker 3: Man, anything else for the rest of the season. Any
- 1:18:04Speaker 3: any pre bye week thoughts that you had, because we'll
- 1:18:08Speaker 3: have to have points to talk about next week during
- 1:18:10Speaker 3: the bye.
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: I think the Vikings make the playoffs at this point.
- 1:18:14Speaker 3: That's not a hot take, which it seems crazy.
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: It's a warm take.
- 1:18:19Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just a take. If the season ended right now,
- 1:18:22Speaker 3: they'd have the number one seed. That's true, they'd have
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: the buy it's just crazy. I'm gonna say they'll make
- 1:18:27Speaker 3: the playoffs. But you do have the like well, in
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: twenty sixteen they went five and oh and they had
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: the best point differential in the league, and then they
- 1:18:36Speaker 3: finished eight and eight and didn't make the playoffs.
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: So there are the naysayers out there that'll, you know,
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: swoop in and say, well, no, they won't.
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: I'm gonna say they will.
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: All right. I agree with you will all right? Something
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: else we can agree on? Ked Creeks Red Brick Red
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: or I'm sorry ked Creek's Brick Red Ale.
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? Very good?
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: Still like the the caramel kind of aftertaste that I get.
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: I think that's the strongest characteristic that I get from
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: this beer, in addition to kind of its maltiness and
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: just its overall red characteristic.
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, I would definitely drink it again.
- 1:19:14Speaker 3: Last week we had the the Taitaka Brewing the I
- 1:19:18Speaker 3: think it.
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: Was called Rooster Tail.
- 1:19:19Speaker 3: Rooster Tail, Yeah, that was another red Ale, and that
- 1:19:23Speaker 3: one was kind of tangy to me, kind of sweet,
- 1:19:27Speaker 3: but still an.
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: Amber, you know, an ambery red Ale.
- 1:19:32Speaker 3: This one, I'm kind of getting a similar vibe, just
- 1:19:34Speaker 3: without that like heavy tanginess. This is Smoky's not the
- 1:19:39Speaker 3: right word, but more that mellow red. Maybe it's the
- 1:19:44Speaker 3: maybe I'm picking up on that caramel note that you're
- 1:19:46Speaker 3: picking up onto and just kind of feeling it as
- 1:19:49Speaker 3: like a more mellow but it's definitely still a red,
- 1:19:52Speaker 3: still an amber. Really good.
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: I like it a lot.
- 1:19:56Speaker 3: I really I kind of wish one time we would
- 1:19:59Speaker 3: have a beer on this on this show that I'm like, yeah,
- 1:20:02Speaker 3: this isn't my beer, because then because now I know
- 1:20:05Speaker 3: it sounds like I just like everything, and you know
- 1:20:07Speaker 3: we're just shilling out for beer that we've paid for.
- 1:20:10Speaker 3: Then we can count on one hand or yeah, one hand,
- 1:20:13Speaker 3: and how many beers were provided for us on this show.
- 1:20:15Speaker 3: But this one we paid for, you paid for Ked
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: Creek is still really good. Like I said earlier, two
- 1:20:22Speaker 3: for two on the beers of yours that I've tried,
- 1:20:24Speaker 3: I can't wait to try. I think they have three
- 1:20:26Speaker 3: that are regularly stocked at our local highve. This one
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: definitely makes me want to try the third one. I
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: don't remember what the third one is.
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: We'll find it if you're in Iowa brewery though. And
- 1:20:37Speaker 2: absolutely if.
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: You want us to try some beer on an episode,
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: let us know. Find us on social media, send us
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: a message, just drop as a comment, even on YouTube. Yeah,
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: well we'll play ball and we will try your beer,
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: will feature your beer, and we'll give an honest review.
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: And we like beer too, so it'll be honest. But
- 1:20:57Speaker 2: we like to like beer, so we don't just like
- 1:21:00Speaker 2: we love beer. We love beer.
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: We wouldn't devote like probably a third of our podcast
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: to beer.
- 1:21:08Speaker 3: I don't know, and sometimes we get pretty heavy handed
- 1:21:10Speaker 3: on his Kirk Cousins better than Sam Darnold or Sam
- 1:21:14Speaker 3: Bradford or whatever name I decided to put out there.
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: I'm gonna officially go with we are two thirds Vikings,
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: one third beer.
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: Sure, that's some episodes. Sure, that's where I'm gonna stick
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: with it.
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: We have one full episode pretty much devoted to beer.
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: Episode fifty.
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: It's a bye week next week. I mean it's going
- 1:21:30Speaker 3: to be the rest of the NFL and beer. So
- 1:21:32Speaker 3: if you want to be the official bye week skull
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: Hot Beer, let us know. We still have some time.
- 1:21:40Speaker 3: But either way, I think we would take on like
- 1:21:42Speaker 3: an official.
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: Beer brewery sponsor.
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be pretty awesome for sure. We had
- 1:21:46Speaker 3: a recent Minnesota brewery reach out to us and say
- 1:21:49Speaker 3: they want to send us stuff.
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: YEP.
- 1:21:51Speaker 3: We're still not sure how we're going to go about that.
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: I think I think we can talk about it because
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: our bit is Iowa Breer, Iowa Breweries, and Iowa brewed beer.
- 1:22:01Speaker 3: But maybe if I'm a Minnesota brewery sends us beer,
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: we can talk about it. I don't know if we
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: can make it the featured beer of the episode. We
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: can play by ear. If you're a brewery from Shoot,
- 1:22:12Speaker 3: Ontario and you want to send us some beer, we'll
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: take it.
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: We like beer, so.
- 1:22:17Speaker 3: If you send us beer, we will Number one, we
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: will absolutely try it. Number two, we will work it
- 1:22:24Speaker 3: into our show somehow, some way. And number three we'll
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: mention you and all of our social stuff and we'll
- 1:22:31Speaker 3: scratch your back if you scratch ours. Absolutely, yeah, but
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: I agree with you. This, this red.
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: Ale from k Creek has been really good. I will
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: seek this out just on my own.
- 1:22:43Speaker 3: I will buy this myself and enjoy it, especially as
- 1:22:47Speaker 3: the weather starts to get cooler and we start to
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: get into like bonfire. Oh we're here October straight bonfire
- 1:22:53Speaker 3: season right now.
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: Whether yeah, I'm excited.
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: Hey, speaking of breweries and us scratching each other backs.
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: So we tried Titanka Tanka beers last week. They sent
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: us the beers and they were actually delicious, and they
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: sent us like some key chains and stickers and it
- 1:23:12Speaker 3: was all cool. Do you remember last week I said, hey,
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: we had somebody buy a shirt and I figured out
- 1:23:18Speaker 3: it was a friend of the show, Brian, who bought
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: a shirt. But then there was somebody else that bought
- 1:23:22Speaker 3: a shirt. Oh no way, Tanka. I think it was
- 1:23:25Speaker 3: Jeff from Titanka bought the other shirt. So thanks Jeff. Hey,
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: thank you for repping the Skull Hop. We will rep Titanka.
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: Wherever we can.
- 1:23:34Speaker 3: Oh, you're wearing the Titanka shirt.
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: Cover that belly. I'm sorry.
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: Hops shirt school nice. So yeah, we we like to
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: like beer. We like to like breweries.
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, Well we'll still have plenty to
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: talk about next week, even though yeah, we've droven that
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: time and time again. We went all off season talking
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: about the Vikings without really missing a beat.
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: Our episodes in the off season were longer than our
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: other than tonight maybe, or more longer than our regular
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: season episodes had been, so.
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it. All right, man, great beer,
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: great episode, school School.
- 1:24:12Speaker 4: That's a good one.
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