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Jags HQ | Roster Decisions, Joint Practice Takeaways & NFL Competition Committee Honor · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jags HQ. Brian Sexton and former Jaguar Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Loggeman sit down each week with the decision makers of
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  Speaker 1: your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to bring you a product that you all
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  Speaker 2: can be proud of.
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  Speaker 3: With that, game on.
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  Speaker 1: Jags HQ starts right now.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Jags HQ from the Hyundai Studios inside the
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  Speaker 4: Miller Electric Center. Brian and Jeff along with the Brain Trust.
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  Speaker 3: Tony Buscelli. No, this is the brain trust. We're in trouble.
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  Speaker 4: And James Gladstone. James, one thing we know that people
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  Speaker 4: can be absolutely assured of about this show, we're not
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  Speaker 4: going to talk about the offensive line for all 30
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  Speaker 4: minutes that you guys are here this time.
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  Speaker 5: We did last week.
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  Speaker 4: We did last week.
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  Speaker 3: Are you sure? The whole time.
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  Speaker 5: The whole time.
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  Speaker 4: I think we can do it again.
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  Speaker 3: Run it back.
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  Speaker 6: See, this is the thing that most people don't realize.
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  Speaker 3: I love the offensive line. James isn't too far behind.
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  Speaker 3: Let's run it back.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, like.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we played wide receiver in high school and college, and,
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  Speaker 6: you know, might look at him and say, oh, he's
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  Speaker 6: a skilled guy. I like this offense line play. That's
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  Speaker 6: why I love him. He can talk about it as
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  Speaker 6: well as I can and probably more in depth.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'd go that far. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you can't play it like I could. You can probably
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  Speaker 3: talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe this show should be called Jags OL.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: We could do that all day. Let me just throw
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  Speaker 4: it out there and you guys go. You have a
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  Speaker 4: really short weekend this time. I mean, normally your roster
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  Speaker 4: reduction comes Tuesday at 4 o'clock because of the Australia game.
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  Speaker 4: Do I have that right?
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  Speaker 3: That's right. It'll be a first for me.
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  Speaker 4: Sunday at 6.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a little bit different of a deal,
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  Speaker 2: and I think you can opt to reframe it if
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  Speaker 2: you want to try and find positives in it. Good
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  Speaker 2: thing is we get a little bit better of a
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  Speaker 2: week of work next week, right? We get players in
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  Speaker 2: the building for a longer stretch and out on the
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  Speaker 2: grass together as opposed to a delayed version of that.
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  Speaker 7: So walk everybody kind of through the timeline of how
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  Speaker 7: this weekend works because you have roster cuts where you
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  Speaker 7: have to get to 53. and then after that you
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  Speaker 7: have waiver claims, and then after that it's practice squad.
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  Speaker 5: How is that all time out?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so 6 o'clock Eastern on Sunday night, everybody's roster
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  Speaker 2: has got to be reduced to 53 players on it.
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  Speaker 2: Over the course of the next 24 hours, roughly, everybody
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  Speaker 2: gets to look at that list of players who has
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  Speaker 2: been released across the league and submit waiver claims to
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  Speaker 2: those contracts. And with that, you then, if awarded those players,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just, in order by team, same as it
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  Speaker 2: was in the draft this last spring, you have to
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  Speaker 2: make a corresponding move in order to account for that.
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  Speaker 2: And once that occurs, you're able to transition to the
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  Speaker 2: window in which you're establishing your practice squad. If a
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  Speaker 2: player that you intend to sign to your practice squad
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  Speaker 2: who is with you in training camp gets claimed by
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  Speaker 2: another team, obviously that player is no longer an option
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  Speaker 2: for you. So you have roughly a 24-hour window where
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  Speaker 2: you're just in limbo a bit and having 53 players
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  Speaker 2: on your roster before you can ever establish the 16
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  Speaker 2: or 17 player practice squad.
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  Speaker 6: Real quick, Jeff, that's an interesting call it 24 hours
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  Speaker 6: after we make our initial cuts because there's always, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you have your ideas of who you want on your
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  Speaker 6: practice squad and there's certain guys that you're holding your
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  Speaker 6: breath because you love them, but.
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  Speaker 3: You only get 53.
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  Speaker 6: So there's, you know, there's only so many spots and
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  Speaker 6: there's guys that we're going to cut good football players.
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  Speaker 6: And they're guys we really appreciate and love what they've done.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, you want them. And you're hoping that
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  Speaker 3: they end up.
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  Speaker 6: Not, you know, it's a bad thing to say because,
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  Speaker 6: you know, for the players, like, hey, I want to
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  Speaker 6: be on the 53.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 6: But from our perspective is, you know, and I think
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  Speaker 6: last year you saw with guys that were on our
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  Speaker 6: practice squad that were elevated several times. It helped us
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  Speaker 6: win 13 games last year. And some of those guys
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  Speaker 6: ended up being. impactful players and contributors down the stretch
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  Speaker 6: for us that were on our practice squad. So that's
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  Speaker 6: a 24-hour period where I think it's tough for our
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  Speaker 6: players because in some sense, a bunch of guys' dreams
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  Speaker 6: are going to feel like they were crushed or ended
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  Speaker 6: or whatever you.
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  Speaker 3: Want to say it.
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  Speaker 6: At the same time, they probably don't realize there's 31
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  Speaker 6: other teams that are looking to possibly.
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  Speaker 3: Try to get them. Or we're trying to get them
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  Speaker 3: back to our practice squad.
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  Speaker 2: Usually what ends up happening is the teams that make
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  Speaker 2: it the furthest into the playoffs, oftentimes the teams with
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  Speaker 2: some of the better rosters, they're the teams that have
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  Speaker 2: the highest volume of players who are claimed after roster
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  Speaker 2: reductions off of it. One year we had a handful
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  Speaker 2: of guys claimed that we were planning to bring back
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  Speaker 2: on practice squad and Wade Phillips was the defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 2: at the time. And, you know, he looks over, he's like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we cut the wrong guys.
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  Speaker 4: Classic.
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  Speaker 7: So from a, you know, working standpoint, how much sleep
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  Speaker 7: do you get?
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  Speaker 2: You know, so you don't, so 6 p.m. deadline, you
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  Speaker 2: have to have your roster reduced to 53 players. Roughly
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  Speaker 2: three hours after that, the league office is able to
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  Speaker 2: populate the list of players in that transaction.
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  Speaker 5: Which is like 1,100 plus.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 7: And so now you've got to work through 1,100 players?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: So what we've been doing up to this point as
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  Speaker 2: a scouting staff, as an analytics group, is prepping that
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  Speaker 2: so that you're not doing that all in just a
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  Speaker 2: single conversation or a single meeting. You're actually ready for
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  Speaker 2: that to hit and can begin to curate those conversations
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  Speaker 2: and in a much more pointed direction as opposed to, okay,
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  Speaker 2: now we're doing the work. That work has started since
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  Speaker 2: the preseason began, and you're pouring over that video footage
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  Speaker 2: from those games themselves. You're analyzing some of the advanced
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  Speaker 2: metrics behind them. All those sorts of things have been
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  Speaker 2: at play up to this point, and obviously there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a window of time there that evening where
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have to chop through some things, but
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  Speaker 2: you're doing a lot of the prep work in advance.
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  Speaker 7: How important is this game... that's going to be happening
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  Speaker 7: tomorrow night for the guys that are on your roster?
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  Speaker 7: Because you hear coaches and players talk so many times about, hey, look,
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  Speaker 7: last opportunity to put film out there.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 7: Can some of these guys keep their dream alive and
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  Speaker 7: maybe change your mind of what you think now versus
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  Speaker 7: what you may think after the game based on a
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  Speaker 7: really good performance?
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  Speaker 3: Undoubtedly.
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  Speaker 2: And it can go the other way as well. And
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  Speaker 2: I think you weigh them all to the degree that
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  Speaker 2: you can. It's just another op for us to evaluate
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  Speaker 2: and players to showcase their skill sets. In this stage,
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  Speaker 2: when it isn't a preseason game, it's for 31 other
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  Speaker 2: clubs as well. A year ago today, we're looking at
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  Speaker 2: an away game in Miami where they're playing their first
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  Speaker 2: unit for much of that first quarter. To see a
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  Speaker 2: defense step out there that included guys like BJ and
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  Speaker 2: Danny and continue to show up in that setting when
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  Speaker 2: they were actually matched up with players who they're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to play against if they're on our roster
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  Speaker 2: in the regular season. That was a big sign for
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  Speaker 2: us because they got some stops. They made it hard
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  Speaker 2: on that offense and vice versa. Our offensive output against
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  Speaker 2: their first and second team group that was on defense.
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  Speaker 4: And so that was certainly helpful a year ago.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that there are plenty of examples heading
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  Speaker 2: into this game tomorrow night where players are trying to
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  Speaker 2: get their final stamps.
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  Speaker 4: If you could, would you ideally want all of your
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  Speaker 4: practice squad players to have been here during training camp?
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  Speaker 4: Or do you want a couple of guys to come
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  Speaker 4: in from outside?
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  Speaker 2: I think we certainly have enough guys that we're excited
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  Speaker 2: about and would love to make sure that we have
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  Speaker 2: a chance to keep in here. We're always going to
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  Speaker 2: consider the paths that exist outside as well. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why you do all this work leading up to this
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  Speaker 2: weekend in order to have those conversations and make those decisions.
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  Speaker 2: So At this stage, we're certainly excited about where we're
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  Speaker 2: at and the group that we have in-house because of
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  Speaker 2: the work that they've done and really the trust that
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  Speaker 2: they've earned and put themselves in a situation to where
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  Speaker 2: they can be in that conversation and only time will
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  Speaker 2: tell whether or not a dynamic pops up over the
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  Speaker 2: next weekend to where we have to pursue it. But
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  Speaker 2: I think it's certainly the case to think that an
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  Speaker 2: outside option would showcase itself or show up at some point.
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  Speaker 4: Did we decide yesterday when we were talking about this,
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  Speaker 4: how many veterans can you have?
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  Speaker 5: Six.
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  Speaker 2: Six.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's an exception.
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  Speaker 4: Up to ten.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Up to ten.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so you get your vested veterans and then you
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  Speaker 2: got your exception practice squad players and the combination of
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  Speaker 2: both up to ten.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So 16 guys, but you could have up to ten.
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  Speaker 3: And you could have one IPP.
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  Speaker 2: Up to ten of those exceptions and veteran players. The
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  Speaker 2: other six or seven have to be. non-vested veterans haven't
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  Speaker 2: had the accrued seasons that would put them in a vested.
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  Speaker 4: And you're talking about the international players. So you'll have
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  Speaker 4: 17 guys.
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  Speaker 6: It's 16, but every club is allowed to have one
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  Speaker 6: international player. So if you have an international player on
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  Speaker 6: your practice squad, you actually get 17 practice squad players.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Same with the 90-man roster. We're currently at 91
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  Speaker 2: because one of which is.
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  Speaker 7: Which is your tackle guard, Zyra.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, Killian. Okay. That's right. All right, you're listening to Jax.
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  Speaker 4: You'll take it when it gets thought in.
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  Speaker 7: No, I just– would you guys– so after this game happens,
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  Speaker 7: take people through the process, who's in the room.
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  Speaker 5: You know, how does it work?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as an example here, and this will also include
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  Speaker 2: kind of what we do even on a regular rhythmic postgame,
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  Speaker 2: is Tony, myself, Liam, we're going to have a brief
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  Speaker 2: conversation that night around our thoughts. We'll take– the morning
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  Speaker 2: the next day to absorb that film and we'll then
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  Speaker 2: group up together to sort of make an action plan of, hey,
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  Speaker 2: here's some bigger picture items that need to take place.
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  Speaker 2: Now going into this, we've had those conversations around, hey,
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  Speaker 2: unless this occurs, here's what's likely to be the path
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  Speaker 2: of the roster. And so we know those in the
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  Speaker 2: back of our mind going into the game and can
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  Speaker 2: quickly have those conversations post. But Saturday morning will include
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of those conversations and ultimately not until Sunday
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  Speaker 2: at 6 will we know the final roster plans for
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  Speaker 2: the 53 and then the priorities on the practice squad.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's not one meeting.
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  Speaker 6: It's not like, hey, we're sitting around and after the
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  Speaker 6: game we'll all sit down. I think James and I
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  Speaker 6: have an ongoing 12-hour.
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  Speaker 3: Meeting a day.
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  Speaker 6: And then we have intermittent meetings with Liam about 10
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  Speaker 6: times a day. And so it's an ongoing conversation because
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  Speaker 6: you're always evaluating everything that these players do. It's in
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  Speaker 6: the weight room, in the training room. How does the
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  Speaker 6: support staff interact with them? Obviously, the most important what
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  Speaker 6: they do between the lines.
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  Speaker 5: But how do they learn?
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  Speaker 6: Are they picking up stuff? I mean, there's a number
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  Speaker 6: of things that you're looking at constantly. So it's not a.
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  Speaker 6: single data point or a single meeting saying, hey, what
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  Speaker 6: do you guys think? I mean, it's been ongoing since
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  Speaker 6: the beginning. And then it's the nuances of those are
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  Speaker 6: guys get hurt. And so the plans today could be
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  Speaker 6: different after tomorrow night or the next morning or, you know, so.
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  Speaker 3: Many things that go into that.
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  Speaker 6: And the three of us sit down and then ultimately,
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  Speaker 6: you know, James's responsibility at the end of the day
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  Speaker 6: to sit down and say, OK, Based on all the
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  Speaker 6: data and all the input from Liam and all the
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  Speaker 6: input from myself, our assistant coaches, our coordinators, everything the
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  Speaker 6: building is given about our analytics team, our scouts, and
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  Speaker 6: then ultimately James has to sit down and say, okay,
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  Speaker 6: with all this information and where we are, how are
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  Speaker 6: we going to, what's the, What's the best 53 for
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  Speaker 6: us as the Jacksonville Jaguars?
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  Speaker 4: Lead the conversation.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone has a role in this building, and we have
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  Speaker 6: to execute, and everyone supports everyone in that role so
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  Speaker 6: they can have the right information to make the decisions
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  Speaker 6: and do their job the best they can.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's take a break.
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  Speaker 3: That's the business side.
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  Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll talk ball, see what these
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  Speaker 4: guys saw on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow. Yeah, let's go. Here we go.
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  Speaker 4: Jags HQ, here on the Jaguars Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to Jags HQ. Tomorrow night, 737 kickoff at
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  Speaker 4: Everbank Stadium. Jaguars and Buccaneers to round out the preseason.
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  Speaker 4: And that game is brought to you by Wolfson Children's Hospital,
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  Speaker 4: the official children's hospital of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Congratulations, by
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  Speaker 4: the way. If it is, congratulations on being named to
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  Speaker 4: the competition committee. I think it is, but it's probably
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  Speaker 4: more work for you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no. Listen, if you love football, it's not work.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like I come here and work, so...
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I get to come hang out and watch
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  Speaker 3: football and talk football and.
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  Speaker 6: Be with good people, and the opportunity and the chance
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  Speaker 6: was asked to be on the competition committee. What an
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  Speaker 6: honor to be part of a group of individuals that
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  Speaker 6: get to help shape the future of the game and
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  Speaker 6: how the game's played and the integrity of the game,
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  Speaker 6: and it's a huge honor for me.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's a no-brainer.
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  Speaker 5: What's important to you?
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  Speaker 7: As far as anything like competition committee that you feel
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  Speaker 7: strongly about? Is there anything you thought about saying, hey,
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  Speaker 7: I'd really like to talk about X?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think, you know, there's so many
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  Speaker 6: things that go into the game of football. And I think,
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  Speaker 6: number one, the league has done a great job. And
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  Speaker 6: the individuals who've been on the competition committee throughout the
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  Speaker 6: history of the league have done an outstanding job of
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  Speaker 6: protecting the game of football.
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  Speaker 3: But it's an ever-changing landscape.
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  Speaker 6: And I think for me personally, and listen, right now
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to do a lot of listening because there's
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  Speaker 6: guys who've been on that competition committee for a long time.
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  Speaker 6: And I think the best thing you can do is
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  Speaker 6: understand and dive in and learn before you start opening
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  Speaker 6: your mouth too much. But at the same time, strong
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  Speaker 6: opinions that there's a foundation to how the game of
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  Speaker 6: football has always been played and needs to be played.
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  Speaker 3: Football is a physical, tough game. We need to make
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  Speaker 3: the game as safe as possible for our players.
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  Speaker 6: But at the same time, just the nature of the
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  Speaker 6: game itself, there's a danger to it. And football is
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  Speaker 6: not for to play the game of football.
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  Speaker 3: It's not for everybody. It's hard. It's difficult.
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  Speaker 6: And so there's this balance that we always have to have.
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  Speaker 6: And I think anyone who's played the game understands it.
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  Speaker 6: You understand the risk when you sign up to play
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  Speaker 6: the game of football, but you also understand those risks
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  Speaker 6: are greatly outweighed by the impact, the positive impact that
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  Speaker 6: football has.
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  Speaker 3: On an individual.
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  Speaker 6: Of what you learn about yourself and about how to
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  Speaker 6: work with others and being a part of a team
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  Speaker 6: and having discipline and perseverance. Those are all great qualities
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  Speaker 6: that travel throughout any walk of life. And so there's
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  Speaker 6: this balance. That's the foundation of what football is. But
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  Speaker 6: at the same time, with all the data and all
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  Speaker 6: the science and all the technology we have, how can
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  Speaker 6: we make it as safe as possible? And so having
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  Speaker 6: a set of rules that protect the integrity of the
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  Speaker 6: game and the foundation of the game of football, while
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  Speaker 6: at the same time making it as safe as.
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  Speaker 3: Possible for all players who play it.
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  Speaker 6: And to be an example for, you know, we have
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  Speaker 6: to think about football for our players, our current players
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  Speaker 6: who've played the game, who are going to play the game,
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  Speaker 6: that go out and entertain our millions and millions and
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  Speaker 6: millions and billions of fans that watch this game around
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  Speaker 6: the world. At the same time, we're an example for
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  Speaker 6: of how the game should be played to every young
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  Speaker 6: person who's playing it all the way, starting in Pop Warner.
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  Speaker 6: So I think the importance of making sure we have
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  Speaker 6: rules that protect the game of football at the same time,
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  Speaker 6: make it as safe as possible and teaching it to
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  Speaker 6: be played the right way are critical. And those are
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  Speaker 6: the things that are important to me because the game
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  Speaker 6: of football, um, has been a huge part of my
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  Speaker 6: life and is, um, I mean, I have the wife
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  Speaker 6: I have because of the game of football, because there's
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: no way I was getting in the USC and my
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: dad was not paying for it. And so I look
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  Speaker 6: at my wife and I look at my friendships and
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  Speaker 6: I think look at the things I've learned from the game.
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  Speaker 6: That's a big part of who I am as an individual,
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  Speaker 6: my family and everything else. My kids played the game.
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  Speaker 6: And so it's an important part. And so to have
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  Speaker 6: the honor to be a part of the competition committee,
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  Speaker 6: to have the responsibility to be a part of a
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  Speaker 6: group of people that protect the game, that's a huge honor.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, that's not work.
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  Speaker 3: I was just kidding. I just know how busy you are.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but they're never too busy to do something that protects.
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  Speaker 6: that you care about, that you love, and it's a
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: big part of your life. But I think that's the
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  Speaker 6: best way. How do you create that balance of protecting
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  Speaker 6: the game of football for what it is and it's
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: meant to be and how it's designed to be played,
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  Speaker 6: which is tough and physical.
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  Speaker 7: So you're saying you're not going to bring back the
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  Speaker 7: cut blocks from behind.
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  Speaker 3: It's an offensive line. Yikes.
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  Speaker 7: No, but that's because a couple years ago you were like,
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  Speaker 7: I can't believe we're taking that rule out of the game.
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  Speaker 3: I had to go through it. I had to go
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  Speaker 3: through it. We have to have some advantage. No, but
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  Speaker 3: that's a perfect example.
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  Speaker 6: You know, today's athletes and the way the game's played,
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  Speaker 6: there's no reason for that rule.
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  Speaker 3: Because you can play the game and do the rule.
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  Speaker 5: You've changed your mind.
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  Speaker 3: No, I haven't changed my mind. You and I used
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: to joke about it.
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  Speaker 2: Strong convictions loosely held.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: This is the best part about Tony.
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  Speaker 2: If he gets new information and it's worth it, he'll change.
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  Speaker 6: It's no different than defense alignment in the head slap
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  Speaker 6: that was once legal. What a great tool and ability
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: to go sack the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: Deacon Jones, man.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: And then the cut block was an opportunity to create
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: running lanes on the backside for running backs. But look
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: at where this happens since we've changed those rules. The
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: pass rush hasn't gone away in sacking the quarterback. What
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: have these great players and great athletes done? They've learned
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: different techniques and ways to go get the quarterback. It's
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: a safer game. The essence of how the game is
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: played has not changed. If you look at the cut
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  Speaker 6: block within the tackle box being changed. Now, all of
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: a sudden, you have new techniques to cut off defenders
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  Speaker 6: and different ways to do it in the same game
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  Speaker 6: as being played, but at a safer level. Because any athlete, me,
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  Speaker 6: and we used to joke about it all the time
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  Speaker 6: because you on the defense side, me on the opposite side,
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  Speaker 6: but the one thing we'd agree on, no one likes
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  Speaker 6: anyone going at their knees. And so there's a lot
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  Speaker 6: of ways that we can keep the essence of the
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  Speaker 6: game of football as it is, but also protect our
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  Speaker 6: players and be smart about it so that they can
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  Speaker 6: play longer and safer and enjoy the game as it's
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: intended to be played.
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  Speaker 4: Let's just wrap up the segment with this quick thought.
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  Speaker 4: You talked earlier about an ongoing 12-hour conversation between the
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: two of you guys, a 12-hour meeting, and involving Liam.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Is that how the competition committee works? Is it a
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: constant conversation through the course of a season?
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: That's a great question. I'm still learning.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Because issues come up all the time. Two days ago,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I got an email. I got announced. I knew about it.
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  Speaker 6: Sean had let me know, hey, this is coming a
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: couple weeks ago. And then it became official, what, two
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: or three days ago. The day after, I get an
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: email saying, hey, we're having a meeting on whatever today is.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: Because it's camp, I lose track of whatever day it is.
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  Speaker 6: And there's one next week. And so I think these things,
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: these call it remote meetings using technology, we're You get
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: together and have discussions of things that come up.
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  Speaker 3: Those things, I think, happen. And then there's scheduled meetings
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  Speaker 3: as well.
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  Speaker 6: With in-person in the offseason when games are not being played.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's a little bit of both.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: It's funny you should ask, hey, tell me about what
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the competition committee's cadence is. You got to tell everybody
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  Speaker 2: about obviously the support from your family, but then the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: quick follow up of what came after. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The best is because I'm terrible and I'll be brief.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I know we have to go break.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not good at communicating when there's honors or cool
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: things that happen to.
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  Speaker 3: Me because it's like, OK, great. Move on. You're used
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: to it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And but I've never been comfortable also talking about anything
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: about myself like that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: And so, but you fast forward.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: So it comes out, it's all over the internet, I guess,
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: social media and everything. So I get home and my
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: Angie's out of town.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks.
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  Speaker 6: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 3: So I didn't get yelled at by her.
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  Speaker 6: Um, my three girls I'm having dinner with and they go, dad,
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: why didn't you tell us you made.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: The competition committee? And they're like, that is so cool.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: Am I in the, they were giving me a hard
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: time for not telling them. And immediately after they gave me,
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: you know, a lot of stuff for not telling them
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: and saying how cool it was, and they said, hey,
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: but what does it mean?
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  Speaker 3: What does the.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Color jacket do you get for the competition committee?
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Wait, what does it mean?
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  Speaker 6: Now that we've, like, told you it's great and it's
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: really cool and what an honor.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: You've got to love that it starts with support, though.
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: That just brings you right back down to reality right there.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: My mom was the same way.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: She called the Halleys Comets crazy comets, as moms do,
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: and they're proud of their son.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: And at the end of it, she goes, so what
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: does that mean?
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: What do you do?
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: What do you do? What does the competition do? And
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: so it was fun explaining it to them.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Do you get paid for that? Did they ask that,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: the kids?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Do you get extra money? I'm like, no,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: it's a committee.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: It's part of work.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: It's my job.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: All right, let's take a break. We've got one more
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: segment with Tony and James Gladstone. You're listening to Jags
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: HQ here on Jaguars Radio.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
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  Speaker 4: We're back on Jags HQ. About seven, eight more minutes
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  Speaker 4: with Tony Buscelli and James Gladstone. Our broadcast this evening
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• 21:21
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• 21:24
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Give us the lowdown on the joint practices. You had
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: three weeks of them. You had one against the Panthers
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: and Saints, two against the Bucs. Actually, just really one
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: against the Bucs, right?
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did seven on seven the second day.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: How'd it work? Did the work get done that you wanted?
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Here's the cool thing.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: We're going to now have back-to-back seasons where we did
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: vastly different preseason cadence.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: And so it'll be great.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Come the conclusion of 2026 being able to compare and contrast.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: What do we feel like we.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Got out of each? Is there one we like more?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Is there a combination of the two? Because remember a
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: year ago, We went week one and week two where
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: some of our starters were playing in the preseason games themselves.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: We didn't have any joints lined up until week three
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: against Miami. And both Liam and myself come from backgrounds
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: where it was joint practice heavy as opposed to preseason
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: game exposure for those first and second team players. And
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: so this year we get a chance to do three,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: one of which included two days with Tampa Bay. And
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I think at where we're at right now, the best
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: part of it all, if I go zoomed out, is
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: you saw a steady progression from one to the next
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  Speaker 2: in our play, in our execution, in our energy. That's
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the really good thing because you're building for ultimately what
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: is week one in the regular season. And so to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: see that climb like it was is something that we're
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: really happy with and pleased with, knowing that there's still
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: more meat on the bone that we got to put
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: to the grass here over the next week and a half.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, that element was certainly one that stood out.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And I think we kind of got our a little
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: jab from New Orleans, and it was a little wake-up
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: to say, hey, you got two more ops in these
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: joint sessions, you better make them count. And I think
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: that that showed itself against both Carolina and Tampa Bay
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: in a way that, you know, got to give a
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: lot of credit to each of the clubs that we
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: matched up with. They allowed us to have a really
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  Speaker 2: clean joint practice. I mean, it was good work for us,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: and a lot of that had to do with the
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: way that it was run between both coaching staffs, both
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: operation groups. a lot of coordination that goes into that
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: stuff in order to make it all work the right way.
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  Speaker 2: But certainly feel good at where we're at and what
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: those allowed us to get out of.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think also like the reps.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, like in a game, you get what, like 65,
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: maybe 70 snaps. I think in New Orleans you had
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: 90 on the offensive side, 90 on the defensive side.
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  Speaker 7: But to be able to get the high quality of
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: work that's competitive, but to not have any– loosey-goosey play
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: around your quarterback, you know, any guys getting finished down
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: to the ground. You got to take, I think, that
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: as a real positive because you're getting competitive work, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: the finish is not there to where guys can have
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: the injury or risk factor.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think a couple things there.
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  Speaker 6: I think, one, you're getting more reps in joints than
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: you do in any preseason games for your ones. I
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: think the other thing that I enjoy about the joints
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: probably more than the preseason is though the preseason does
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: have some benefits playing in the game is you're, you're
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: guaranteeing or high probability, unless someone's injured on their side,
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: you're getting ones against ones. How often do you go
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: into a preseason game? One team's playing their ones, the
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: other team's playing their.
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  Speaker 3: Twos or vice versa.
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  Speaker 6: And you're like, it's like, are you, what kind of,
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, you're not getting that best on best to look.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: And we have three, we had three weeks where our
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: best against their best. And that's where you can start
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: really in our twos against their twos. And you start
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: getting some feeling, you know, how are guys competing? Where
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: do you stand and how do you do it? And
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: I think the three joints I thought were great from
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: the standpoint, and James touched on this, and I want
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: to emphasize this point, of the progression of getting better
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: throughout camp. You always want to be improving.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: That's obvious.
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  Speaker 6: I think the punch in the mouth in New Orleans
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: was great. I think it was also because it was
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: a reminder for us as a team, as an organization,
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: of who we really are and how we play when
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: we're at our best.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: And that's being physical.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: And that's playing a tough-nosed kind of standard of what
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: it means to be a Jaguars that James and I
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: have talked.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Liam talks about it all the time with our team.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: I've heard that phrase, play style, a hundred times this week.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Liam set the standard. Said, hey, this is who we are.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: We are a tough, physical....
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  Speaker 6: We're going to come out anytime, anywhere, anyone, all those things.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: It's a little bit of a, hey, we're ready to go.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: It's a little bit of what Duval is all about.
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  Speaker 6: I think we went out in that New Orleans joint,
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: and we weren't at our best. We weren't playing the
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: way to the standard. Now, give the Saints a lot
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: of credit. They came out, and they punched us in
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  Speaker 6: the mouth. And I think what I enjoyed about that,
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: not in the moment, it was a painful, I think
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: this whole organization couldn't wait to get back on the field,
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: but it's a reminder of who we are and how
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: we have to play.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: And you have to be true to yourself.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: And, boy, I thought Liam did a great job during
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: that period. And James has said this, I've said it
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: on this show, Liam's leadership qualities keep on showing up.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: Because great leaders are able not only to set a
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: standard and communicate what the standard is.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: But then hold the standard through tough times. And when
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the standard's not.
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  Speaker 6: Being met, hold everybody in the organization accountable. And I
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: think this was another highlight of Liam doing that. And
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: what's great about it, our players respond. Our players responded
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, it's all words
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: from the head coach or from James or myself.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: We're just talking.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: Because we're not going out there and punching anyone in
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: the mouth. We can say it and act tough and
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: say this is who we are because we mean.
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  Speaker 4: It at our core.
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  Speaker 3: But you better get your players to buy in. Your
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: players better believe it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: And I think the most exciting thing for me about
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: this camp is watching how our players responded. Our players
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: heard the head coach. They met the challenge. And it
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: shows that what we're trying to build here, there's guys,
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: we have a core of guys that are probably too
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: long of a list to even start mentioning names.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to leave anyone out that own that.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: And they led the way in the following two joints.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: It wasn't perfect. We have lots of stuff to clean up.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: We are not ready for Cleveland. Right.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: You have 17 days.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: We have 17 days, but the play style, I think
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: everyone on our team, our players, hey, this is who
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: we are.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: This is how we have to play.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: We have one minute left with you guys. Let me
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: throw a name out there because then it won't be
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: you forgetting someone. But I thought he set the standard
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: this week was Josh Heinz-Allen. I thought his practice on
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Tuesday was as good a practice as I've seen a
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Jaguar have in a long time.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: No doubt.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: And I think that– was showcased in Carolina as well.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: That really made it hard for them to operate as
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: an offense, both trying to run the ball and pass
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: the ball. Showed up again versus Tampa Bay. His energy
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: has continued to build as camp's gone on. You feel
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: his presence. You feel his influence on, in particular, the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: young guys across the team. But it's the fronts that
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: are going to drive that. story for us. You know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: it's going to be that defensive front. It's going to
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: be the offensive line that really tells the tale in
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: a real large way of what this team's going to
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: look like each and every week.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: And let me go to some of your draft picks.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: I thought Borkesher had his best day yet, maybe, against
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: the Bucs. Your wide receiver, Josh Cameron, had an outstanding day.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: And then Bregnon, I thought, got a little reps against
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: a big old fellow named Vitavea.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: And the Bucs played pretty well. So it's good to
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: see those young guys playing pretty well.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: It's good to get that exposure against some pretty high
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: caliber players on the other side. And especially when you're
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: just walking in for the first time as a Rook,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: to see somebody that you don't have any tendencies for
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and just straight up play against them, that can be
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: a really helpful piece to the puzzle and the build
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: towards the regular season. But with Josh, I think that's
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: an interesting one because it's, It's so easy when you
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: look at him physically, like that's a wide receiver, huh?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: And you probably label him as like a tight receiver,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: half tight end, half wide receiver.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Would you call him an F?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I think at this stage you can say he's got
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to play quite a few of those wide
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: receiver spots. But nonetheless, he's done a great job, as
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: has many of the others. And C.J. Williams, who's right
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: there next to him, really earning a lot of trust
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: right off the bat. And Emmanuel and Bork doing their
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: part in the run game was certainly notable.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: They're fun to watch.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Let's leave it at that. James Gladstone, Tony Buscelli, thanks
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: so much.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Thanks, guys.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Appreciate it.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: See you guys next week.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Appreciate it. We'll take a break and be back. Jags
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: HQ rolls along with Jeff Longaman here on the Jaguars
• 30:03
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the hard part is we could talk forever.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, just the conversation, especially with Tony, just never
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  Speaker 4: seems to slow down. I've got 15 notes here of
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  Speaker 4: things I wanted to get to.
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  Speaker 5: We didn't get to it.
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  Speaker 4: No, we didn't. But luckily, you're staying.
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  Speaker 5: And one of them.
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  Speaker 7: Was Fahlele, which we'll get to him next week and
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  Speaker 7: kind of see how he does or if he does
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  Speaker 7: anything this week.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know who played with him in high school
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  Speaker 4: at IMG was Robert Hainsey.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And Hainsey was telling us today in our television production meeting,
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  Speaker 4: the minute he walked in the door, a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: big guys looked up and realized they weren't as big
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  Speaker 4: as they thought.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, he's a giant.
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  Speaker 5: He's a giant.
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  Speaker 7: But to go back to that conversation with James, and
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  Speaker 7: I brought up Borkature and Pregnant in particular about doing
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  Speaker 7: a really good job of blocking up front. And I
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  Speaker 7: thought they were real key because they had a really
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  Speaker 7: strong day running the football. And a big part of
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  Speaker 7: that was Basial Tootin. And what impressed me the most
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  Speaker 7: might have been what he did after he didn't look
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  Speaker 7: so good. There was a play that he had where
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  Speaker 7: he goes right through the middle and all of a
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  Speaker 7: sudden he's bearing down on Antoine Winfield, who is a
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  Speaker 7: total pro. And Antoine Winfield goes out and punches the
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  Speaker 7: ball out in a front collision, which doesn't happen very often.
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  Speaker 7: Most defenders, first guy in, aren't thinking about punching the
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  Speaker 7: ball out, which this was a great moment for Basial
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  Speaker 7: Tootin because, one, it taught him about, hey, know your opponent.
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  Speaker 7: This is a veteran guy. He is ready to do
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  Speaker 7: something like that. But I thought that the way that
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  Speaker 7: he continued to run after that play was what was
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  Speaker 7: important because Basial Basial Tootin in the past, if you
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  Speaker 7: go back to last year, he didn't look fast all
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  Speaker 7: the time. We kept hearing he was a 4-3-2 guy, right?
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  Speaker 7: I think that was the time.
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  Speaker 6: 4-2-8.
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  Speaker 5: Or 4-2-8. 4-2-8. Which is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 7: Name me a game in which he ran where he
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  Speaker 7: looked like he was 4-2-8. I don't think he did. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: because I think he was so conscious about ball security
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  Speaker 7: because there was a question about him coming out of college.
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  Speaker 7: Would he have good ball security? Well, look, he put
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  Speaker 7: the ball on the turf, but it's okay. And I
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  Speaker 7: thought it was critical because the way he responded, he
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  Speaker 7: was running so fast in this joint practice with the
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  Speaker 7: Bucs that it impressed the heck out of me.
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  Speaker 4: Go back to the television production meeting because we talked
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  Speaker 4: to the head coach today. unprovoked, went to Basial and
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  Speaker 4: said the reason he's playing so fast is he's being decisive.
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  Speaker 4: He's not overthinking it. He sees the hole. He goes
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  Speaker 4: through the hole. He said it's always about slow to
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  Speaker 4: fast through. Let the hole develop and then get through it.
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  Speaker 7: And it's crazy to watch the Jaguars practice. They've got
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  Speaker 7: what many consider to be one of the best running
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  Speaker 7: backs coach in football in Chad Morton.
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  Speaker 1: Chad Morton, tremendous.
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  Speaker 5: Who played in the NFL himself. Yes, he did.
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  Speaker 7: When you watch him in practice, okay, the running backs
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  Speaker 7: almost always run to the end zone every play. And
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  Speaker 7: who's on a good play? And who's running down the
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  Speaker 7: field 40, 50 yards every time to dap him up?
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  Speaker 5: It's Chad Morton.
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  Speaker 7: He probably burns more calories than any coach in Jaguars
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  Speaker 7: history along with Heath.
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  Speaker 4: I might start running up and down the sidelines then too.
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  Speaker 4: I'll just be honest about it. I could use to
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  Speaker 4: lose a couple. Is the running back position going to
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  Speaker 4: be like the linebacker position. In other words, is it
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  Speaker 4: going to be 50-50? Are we going to see a
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  Speaker 4: healthy dose of both? We're going to see healthy doses.
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  Speaker 4: But who's the starter? Does it matter?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think the home run hitter is Basial Tootin,
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  Speaker 7: and Rodriguez is the hammer. And I think they've got
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  Speaker 7: two very distinct running styles. I think they're both going
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  Speaker 7: to be a factor. And from watching the preseason games, look,
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  Speaker 7: Abdul is– Now into the conversation a little bit. He
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  Speaker 7: has pried the door open with his performance. And will
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  Speaker 7: they keep three or will they make room for four
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  Speaker 7: in him?
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  Speaker 4: Well, listen, it's remarkable, remarkable that a guy who plays
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  Speaker 4: a position with the shortest lifespan, right, three years, three
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  Speaker 4: and a half years. Fred Taylor and I were talking
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  Speaker 4: about this earlier today. This is 12th season and his
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  Speaker 4: seventh team. So he's never been a feature guy. He
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  Speaker 4: keeps bouncing around. But what did they see from him
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  Speaker 4: that they like so much?
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  Speaker 5: Well, he's quick. He's decisive. He is a receiver out
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  Speaker 5: of the backfield.
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  Speaker 7: I think he can do a little bit of everything.
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  Speaker 7: He's not just a first down back. He's not just
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  Speaker 7: a third down back.
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  Speaker 5: He can do both.
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  Speaker 7: The reason he's able to do that, first of all,
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  Speaker 7: give him credit because he's taken care of himself, obviously,
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  Speaker 7: because he looked fantastic in year 12. But what I
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  Speaker 7: think is the low mileage factor, this is what I
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  Speaker 7: call like a barn find.
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  Speaker 5: I like that.
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  Speaker 4: I bought a car out of a barn once.
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  Speaker 5: I know the feeling.
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  Speaker 7: You find a car that's been tucked away in a barn,
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  Speaker 7: and it's not that he's been tucked away because he's
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  Speaker 7: been playing, but the comparison is that he's got low mileage.
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  Speaker 7: He's got, I think, like 500 carries in his career,
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  Speaker 7: where you go back to some of the workhorses have
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  Speaker 7: 250 to 300 in a season. So the mileage is low,
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  Speaker 7: and the maturity is there. The professionalism is there. And
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  Speaker 7: that's also, I think, a big factor for that room,
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  Speaker 7: which is a real positive.
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  Speaker 4: You can bank on him making this roster. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: unless something dramatic changes, he's not playing tomorrow night. Not playing.
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  Speaker 7: If he was.
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  Speaker 5: Fighting for a roster spot. Probably a sign.
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  Speaker 4: I'm inferring after 33 years of doing this.
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  Speaker 7: At the end of the day, you've got to remember
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  Speaker 7: that there's 1,100 guys that are going to get released.
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  Speaker 7: And there's... Going to be comparisons. What do we have
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  Speaker 7: and what's out there? And so that's always going to
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  Speaker 7: be a factor. I think if maybe the right guy's
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  Speaker 7: not out there, he makes the roster. But if there's
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  Speaker 7: a guy that's out there, you know, you never know.
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  Speaker 4: Keeping us honest.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you never know.
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  Speaker 4: Still see him here. All right, we'll take a break.
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  Speaker 4: We'll come back. More with Jeff Loggaman here on Jags
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  Speaker 4: HQ on a Thursday evening on Jaguars Radio.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
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  Speaker 4: Tomorrow night's game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 737 kickoff
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  Speaker 4: More with Jeff Lagerman here on Jags HQ. I'm Brian Sexton.
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  Speaker 3: Offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: Anton Harrison. Emmanuel Pragnon. Robert Hainsey. Ezra Cleveland, and Walker
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  Speaker 4: Little slash Cole Van Lannen, depending on his availability.
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  Speaker 5: That's your starting group.
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  Speaker 4: On opening day.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So Pregnant makes it.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. He's your guy.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm sticking with what I said a week ago,
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  Speaker 7: in that if I came from a different planet, new football,
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  Speaker 7: he might be the best offensive lineman performance-wise that I've
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  Speaker 7: seen in the preseason.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, so I think he's been really good. And
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  Speaker 5: this week was no exception.
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  Speaker 4: Talk about the left side. Anton's moving over there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Sounds like he has, at least Robert Hainsey in a
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  Speaker 4: meeting earlier today, said he really has made the switch
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  Speaker 4: and looks comfortable over there.
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  Speaker 7: Well, he's played it for a number of years going
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  Speaker 7: back to college. And, you know, he did not have
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  Speaker 7: a very good day in the joint practice in New Orleans,
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  Speaker 7: which made you go, can he do this? And then
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  Speaker 7: he responded in the Carolina joint practice. And then this
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  Speaker 7: past week, he was solid. You still want him to
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  Speaker 7: get another level. And I think he will. I think
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  Speaker 7: last year he earned a lot of my trust.
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  Speaker 4: There is another level is what you're saying.
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  Speaker 7: There is, absolutely, for him. I mean, he's got great feet.
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  Speaker 7: He's just got to make sure that he's He's consistent,
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  Speaker 7: and he finishes. That's always the thing for offensive linemen.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that's always the big key. But I think
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  Speaker 7: there's going to be nine offensive linemen that make this team.
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  Speaker 7: Practice squad, you know, that's a conversation for another day.
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  Speaker 7: But I think there's going to be nine guys that
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  Speaker 7: make this football team. The big question mark, and Chumadoga,
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  Speaker 7: who did a pretty good job for the team last year,
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  Speaker 7: I don't think he makes it. I think McCary is
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  Speaker 7: the question mark, you know, as far as, Is he
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  Speaker 7: going to go to IR?
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  Speaker 4: Well, we haven't seen him do anything.
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  Speaker 7: We haven't seen him do anything. And then he had
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  Speaker 7: another back procedure. Where is he at? Is he going
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  Speaker 7: to be able to play? Does he end up being
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  Speaker 7: a guy that you have an injury settlement with? And
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  Speaker 7: then you look at bringing him back later on in
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  Speaker 7: the year.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a big dead cap number.
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  Speaker 5: Explain that to people, what that means.
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  Speaker 4: So he's got a $ 39 million contract, and there is
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  Speaker 4: still almost $ 18 million of bonus money that the Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: paid to him last year that they prorated over the
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  Speaker 4: three years of the contract. If they were to... release him,
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  Speaker 4: even in an injury settlement, that money comes flying forward
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  Speaker 4: into this year's cap.
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  Speaker 5: Could they absorb it in this year's show? No, no.
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  Speaker 4: They've only got about $ 9 million, a little less than that,
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  Speaker 4: in cap room. You can't. You cannot cut him. He's
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  Speaker 4: got to go to your injured reserve list because you
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  Speaker 4: can't take that $ 17 million dead cap hit. Just can't.
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars have taken a couple of hits. You know, last
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  Speaker 4: year they took it with, oh, the corner.
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  Speaker 5: The corner. And drawn a blank, too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: On the corner.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, come on. We're getting old. Tyson Campbell. When they
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  Speaker 4: traded Tyson Campbell, they took a big hit. And so
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  Speaker 4: they can't afford it. They just can't. He's going to
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  Speaker 4: be on injured reserve if he's not on the active roster.
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  Speaker 4: And listen.
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  Speaker 5: So my nine, I'll give you my nine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Colvin Landon, Walker Little, Ezra Cleveland, Daniel Falele, Hainsey, and Monheim,
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  Speaker 7: Emmanuel Pregnon, Wyatt Milam, and Anton Harrison.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: Those are my nine.
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  Speaker 4: There's the nine. Opening day. You heard it here, folks.
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  Speaker 4: We'll take a break. In return, more of Jags HQ
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  Speaker 4: here on the Jaguars Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
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  Speaker 4: Powering our way to the top of the hour and
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  Speaker 4: the end of Jags HQ. Brian and Jeff with you
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  Speaker 4: here in the final minutes. And let's talk about a
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  Speaker 4: key position battle that you think it probably has already
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  Speaker 4: played out. Right. But maybe there's a chance it somehow changes.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the decision makers are going to have
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  Speaker 7: their hands full trying to figure out what to do
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  Speaker 7: at linebacker. How many roster spots is it going to be?
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  Speaker 7: Is it going to be five? Is it going to
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  Speaker 7: be six? You look at the top four guys, which
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  Speaker 7: I think are pretty obvious, Ventro, Miller, Branson, Combs, Foy, Lewick,
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  Speaker 7: and then Dennis Gardak. Well, if you have five, okay,
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  Speaker 7: that only gives you one more spot. And who does
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  Speaker 7: that go to?
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  Speaker 4: It's got to be a guy who can play a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of positions.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, can Yassir Abdul play multiple positions?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 7: Great special teamer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, then Jalen McLeod.
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  Speaker 4: We haven't seen him yet.
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  Speaker 5: I've been hurt a lot.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to see him tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, been hurt a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Number 35.
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  Speaker 5: Plays inside. Can play inside. Can play outside.
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  Speaker 7: Can play edge.
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  Speaker 4: Terrific athlete.
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  Speaker 7: What about Tavi, the linebacker that they picked up?
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  Speaker 4: He came in, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: He was really.
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  Speaker 3: Good for a while.
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  Speaker 7: But then again, so can Ventro Miller. I think the
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  Speaker 7: linebacking position is going to be interesting to watch just
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  Speaker 7: from the standpoint of special teams are always a factor.
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  Speaker 7: And then positional versatility is always a factor as well.
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  Speaker 7: You got to have guys that can play more than
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  Speaker 7: just Mike or more than just Sam, more than just Will.
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  Speaker 7: They got to be able to play multiple.
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  Speaker 4: Can Branson Combs play multiple or is he just a
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  Speaker 4: weak side linebacker because of his range?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think they got him dialed in at weak
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  Speaker 7: side because that's going to be the majority use for him.
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  Speaker 7: I think he's going to end up probably with maybe
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  Speaker 7: slightly more snaps than Then Ventrell.
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  Speaker 4: Ventrell can play inside, and as you said.
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  Speaker 7: Ventrell, I think, has got a little flexibility playing Will
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  Speaker 7: and Mike, so that's a positive for him.
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  Speaker 5: It works, yep.
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  Speaker 4: Five linebackers, probably, maybe six, but we'll see what they
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  Speaker 4: decide to do. Sunday at 6 is cut-down day. We'll
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  Speaker 4: take our final break of the evening and return to
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  Speaker 4: wrap up Jags HQ here on Jaguars Radio.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Final two minutes or so of Jags HQ. Brian Sexton
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  Speaker 4: along with Jeff Lagerman. You'll have the radio broadcast tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: 737 is the kickoff. Bucky Brooks and I will be
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  Speaker 4: on TV on Fox 30 and around the southeast on
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  Speaker 4: various stations. The preseason finale, even in the old days,
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  Speaker 4: was always one you just kind of wanted to get
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  Speaker 4: through healthily. Feel the same way?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's, you know, it's... You don't want to.
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  Speaker 4: Be writing a bunch of injury settlement checks over the weekend.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, that's, I mean, the reality is that
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  Speaker 7: there are going to be some of them for teams
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  Speaker 7: to write. But, you know, but you also, you're excited
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  Speaker 7: for the guys that are trying to hold on to
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  Speaker 7: a dream. And there's going to be about 1,100 plus
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  Speaker 7: guys that are going to be released. Some of them
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  Speaker 7: will be brought back to the practice squad. But look,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, there's a lot of guys that want to
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  Speaker 7: keep playing, that want to try to find a way
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  Speaker 7: to make a living. And there's an opportunity to impress.
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  Speaker 7: And so you kind of root for those guys. But
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  Speaker 7: at the same token, from a selfish standpoint, you're like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, can we just get through this? You know,
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  Speaker 7: get to the games that count and start playing real football.
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  Speaker 7: But to these guys that are going to be playing
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  Speaker 7: tomorrow night, this is real football. This is a livelihood.
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  Speaker 7: And this is not something that is a throwaway to them.
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  Speaker 4: All right. So tomorrow night, preseason finale here at Everbank Stadium.
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  Speaker 4: Just want to remind people, we're playing here this year.
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  Speaker 4: Just in case you drove by and you saw the
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  Speaker 4: cranes and all the construction materials, we're playing at home
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  Speaker 4: this year. And we're here every Thursday night from 4
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  Speaker 4: to 6 on 1010XL and 92.5 FM, plus all the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguar social channels and the YouTube channel. Jeff, thanks so much.
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  Speaker 4: It was a fun show.
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  Speaker 5: Enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be back next week.
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  Speaker 5: Have a great call tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you too.
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  Speaker 4: Enjoy it. That'll do it, everybody. Enjoy the game tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 4: Preseason football is almost over. Regular season is almost here.
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  Speaker 4: 17 days. Have a great Thursday evening.