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Boys beat step-dad dead after he molests little sister · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Three teens including brothers, behind
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Speaker 1: bars right now for homicide. Now, typically when I read
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Speaker 1: a headline that says teens boys two team mails behind
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Speaker 1: bars for murder for homicide, I think, oh, junior predators,
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Speaker 1: baby killers. They're going to even be worse when they
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Speaker 1: grow up. But believe it or not, these three teams
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Speaker 1: have nearly two hundred and fifty thousand signatures demanding they
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Speaker 1: be released from jail. Now, have you ever heard me
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Speaker 1: say I want a killer release from behind bars? Because
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Speaker 1: I don't think I have ever said that before you
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Speaker 1: judge me. I want you to hear the whole story.
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Speaker 1: Why are three teen boys behind bars for homicide? I mean,
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Speaker 1: I see Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nation and Serious XM
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Speaker 1: one eleven. First of all, take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: cut one our Franzy k r GV Channel five BO
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Speaker 1: homicide investigation underway in Far. That's a video from the
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Speaker 1: scene in McAllen yesterday. Far police say the body of
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Speaker 1: forty two year old Gabadee Kindania was dumped there after
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Speaker 1: he was killed eighteen year old Alejandro Trevino already in
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Speaker 1: custody in connection with Kintania's death. Charges against him pending.
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Speaker 1: Police now looking for seventeen year old Christian Santos. They're
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Speaker 1: also looking for a third guy believed to be driving
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Speaker 1: a red Dodge Charger. We're told the investigation stems from
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Speaker 1: a family situation. If you know where to find Santos
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Speaker 1: or have any other information related to this case, contact
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Speaker 1: for our crimestoppers at seven eighty seven eight four seven
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Speaker 1: seven with me an all star panel to make sense
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Speaker 1: of what we know right now. First of all, Katherine March,
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Speaker 1: Special Victims Liaison State Attorney's Office, joining us. You can
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Speaker 1: find her at right Response Consulting dot com. Karen start RightNow.
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Speaker 1: Psychologists joining us out of Manhattan, Karen start dot com.
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Speaker 1: Starting with A. C. Greg Scheffer, former Phoenix Police Department
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Speaker 1: detect twenty two years and specializing doctor Kendall Crowns with us,
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Speaker 1: the Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County. That's Fort Worth, Texas
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Speaker 1: Lecturer University Texas and Texas A and M also faculty
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Speaker 1: University Texas Medical. And first let's go to Mark Reagan,
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Speaker 1: staff reporter, the Monitor that's in the Rio Grand Valley.
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Speaker 1: You can find him at my RGV dot com. Mark,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. Want to
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Speaker 1: start first of all with the discovery of forty two
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Speaker 1: year old Gabriel Kentonia. Tell me where was his body
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Speaker 1: found and in what condition? Mister Keithonio's body was found
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Speaker 1: by a farmer in a kind of a small agricultural
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Speaker 1: area on the southern part of McCallan. Which are you saying, McCallen, McCallen, McAllen, Yes,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, because I have Far Texas right. So McCallen
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Speaker 1: and Far are right next to each other. We're the
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Speaker 1: seventh largest county and in the state of Texas. And
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Speaker 1: hold on, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, Mark, Texas
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Speaker 1: is like its own country. God blessed Texas. Who doesn't
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Speaker 1: love Texas? Nobody that I know. So if you're telling
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Speaker 1: me McAllen and Far are the two biggest counties in Texas,
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Speaker 1: that must be pretty big. Tell me tell me about
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Speaker 1: We've got about a million people here, lots of international commerce.
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Speaker 1: And then we also are kind of surrounded by world
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Speaker 1: areas and in those royal areas are kind of on
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Speaker 1: the edges to the south and to the north, and
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Speaker 1: it's one of the in these world areas that they
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Speaker 1: found Kenthony his body hold. No, I want to get
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Speaker 1: back to McCallen and Far. Okay, when you say there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of international commerce, what do you mean by that? Exactly?
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Speaker 1: Chances are if you eat tomatoes, they go through Far
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Speaker 1: really produce, yes, car parks, stuff of that nature. Can
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Speaker 1: you keep talking because I don't know any of this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know how to try a murder case.
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Speaker 1: I know how to talk about trajectory of bullets said,
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Speaker 1: bleeding out and the law felony murder. I know how
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Speaker 1: to crime same tape around the house, But I don't
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Speaker 1: know anything about what you're saying. So this dead body
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Speaker 1: is found out in a rural area. You said McCallan
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Speaker 1: on County. Is that what you said? No, McAllen is
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Speaker 1: a city in the county. Is he Dogbell County? Okay?
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the city of McCallen, Okay, city,
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Speaker 1: McCollen and in a rural area, correct, right, right? And
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Speaker 1: so the case first originated with that police department, Mark
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Speaker 1: Reagan with me from the Monitor and Rio Grand Valley. Mark,
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Speaker 1: that is a huge area there in Texas, huge rural
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Speaker 1: area like you just schooled me, if you eat a tomato,
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Speaker 1: it probably came through, uh McCallen. Where exactly in this
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Speaker 1: huge rural area was Gabriel can Tee his body found
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Speaker 1: on a small little plot of farmland south of the
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Speaker 1: city of McCallen. A small plot of farmland south of McCallen.
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Speaker 1: Was he buried? No, who's just laying there in front
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Speaker 1: of God and everybody just laying there in some tall griff,
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Speaker 1: laying in tall grass. I'm just curious. Did they look
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Speaker 1: for drag marks? Had he been dragged there? Dump there
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Speaker 1: were their car or tire tracks in tall grass? I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know what you're making me think of? Everybody? We
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Speaker 1: all went through the Karina Vatrono murder case, a long
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Speaker 1: old jogger case together, and in the journey oh, I
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Speaker 1: hate using that word, but in the journey finding her killer,
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Speaker 1: finding her body started with her dad, Phil Vatrono, out
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Speaker 1: looking for his daughter who went jogging without him. He's
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Speaker 1: supposed to go that day, and he saw one who's
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Speaker 1: praying to God to find his daughter. He saw one
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Speaker 1: blade of tall grass bent over, and he was told
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Speaker 1: to go that way. He went that way. He saw
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Speaker 1: another blade in another blade and he followed it and
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Speaker 1: he found his daughter's body. Mark Reagan, were there drag marks?
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Speaker 1: Do we know? I don't know if they were drag marks,
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Speaker 1: but they were definitely tire marks. Ah well, there you go.
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Speaker 1: He trumped me, you big foot of me. So there
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Speaker 1: were tire marks, which tells me, oh so much with me.
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Speaker 1: Greg Cheffer, former Phoenix Police Department to take to twenty
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Speaker 1: two years Greg, obviously that means the same with stage.
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Speaker 1: He was not killed there, he was taken there, and
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Speaker 1: his body was dumped there. Why why do you believe that?
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Speaker 1: If you do believe that, I think it does look
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Speaker 1: like they dumped the body or whoever dumped the body.
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Speaker 1: And obviously do you have to try to hide the
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Speaker 1: crime or hide the body, take it to a different
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Speaker 1: location and hopefully give them time to either get away
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Speaker 1: or to the body for a period of time. You know.
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Speaker 1: Also very curious, Katherine marsh They didn't bother it to
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Speaker 1: bury the body if they wanted it hidden, but they
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Speaker 1: dumped it. What does that tell you about the killer?
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Speaker 1: They were probably inexperienced and didn't have a lot of
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Speaker 1: prior time of destroying evidence or anything like that. It
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Speaker 1: could also show that it may have been pretty spontaneous
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Speaker 1: or pretty quick because it was just a dump, you know,
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Speaker 1: Karen's dark the staging of a scene, the hiding of
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Speaker 1: a body. You and I have talked many many times,
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Speaker 1: all the way back to court TV and would set.
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Speaker 1: You and I would sit on a dark set talking
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Speaker 1: about the trial as it unfolded in front of us.
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Speaker 1: Staging the scene means something very significant, and staging could
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Speaker 1: be as simple as moving the body. It could be
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Speaker 1: as simple as putting a blanket over the face. I've
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Speaker 1: talked about a case where mother was found naked in
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Speaker 1: her bedroom and the killer had put ad put a
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Speaker 1: weaker trash basket over the mom's head. I mean, we
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Speaker 1: see all sorts of staging, staging to make a murder
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Speaker 1: look like a suicide. But what does staging tell you
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Speaker 1: about the identity of the killer? Karen Stark? Well, it
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Speaker 1: tells you how the killer feels about the victim. You know,
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Speaker 1: for instance, the examples you were giving Nancy. When someone's
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Speaker 1: face is being covered, then you assume that there was
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Speaker 1: concern about them being taken care of to some extent,
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Speaker 1: as absurd as that may sound. And when I think
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Speaker 1: about this particular example, there is no staging. They just
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Speaker 1: dumb him and leave him. And that tells me that
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Speaker 1: they could care less that here's a person that they disregard,
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Speaker 1: feel like he's trashed, Let him just be there, and
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Speaker 1: they're fine with that. Angry you're saying that very often
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Speaker 1: seen your stage because the killer cares about the victim.
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Speaker 1: In this case, I don't think they cared about the
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Speaker 1: victim at all. They dumped him out in a rural area,
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Speaker 1: hoping nobody would ever find his body. What do you
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Speaker 1: make of that? I agree, that's exactly what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: The fact that they just dubbed him and made no
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Speaker 1: attempt to cover him up or even to a hide
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Speaker 1: their crime tells me that they were enraged. Furious crime
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Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace, Mark Reagan joining us from the
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Speaker 1: Monitor there in the Rio Grand Valley. You can find
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Speaker 1: him at Monitor News. Hey, Mark, could you tell me
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Speaker 1: about the cod cause of death? The cause of death
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Speaker 1: is blunt force trauma. Okay, that takes them doing doctor
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Speaker 1: Kendall Crowns. It's not always like you see in the movies.
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Speaker 1: One walk to the back of the head, the person
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Speaker 1: kills over dead. Very often you find the victim of
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Speaker 1: blunt force trauma death beaten from head to toe. Explain
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Speaker 1: what it takes to kill somebody with blunt force trauma
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Speaker 1: as in this case. Well, so when you're using blunt
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Speaker 1: force trauma and just using your fists and not a
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Speaker 1: bat or a board or something like that, you have
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Speaker 1: to hit the individual numerous times to try and cause
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Speaker 1: enough damage to kill them. Sometimes you can punch them
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Speaker 1: in the face and they fall back and they break
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Speaker 1: their skull on the sidewalk. But if that doesn't happen,
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Speaker 1: you just have to continually hit them until you're causing
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Speaker 1: enough injury internally generally in the neck or the skull
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Speaker 1: region that it causes injury to the brain or vital
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Speaker 1: structures in the neck until they die. Also, you can
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Speaker 1: hit an individual in the abdomen as well and cause
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Speaker 1: the rupture of deliver intestines. But again that takes a
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Speaker 1: fair amount of forest and a lot of repetitive hitting. So,
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Speaker 1: Mark Reagan, what a police do when they find Gabriel
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Speaker 1: Continia there on this isolated farm and you said it
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Speaker 1: was a small family farm plot to whom did the
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Speaker 1: plot belong or do we know that yet? Oh, we
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Speaker 1: don't know We don't know who it belonged to. These
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Speaker 1: little splatches of farmland are pretty pretty common in the area. So,
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Speaker 1: Martin Reagan, did anyone live on the plot? Was their home? There? No, No,
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Speaker 1: nobody lived there. Nobody lived there. What about any video surveillance?
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Speaker 1: I guess in that area, very rural area, the closest
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Speaker 1: thing you'd have to any video surveillance is going to
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Speaker 1: be maybe maybe, and probably not a red light cam. Well,
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Speaker 1: actually you'd be surprised. It is rural, but it's right
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Speaker 1: up next to an urban area as you get down
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Speaker 1: close to the border, and being the nature of the border,
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Speaker 1: there are cameras everywhere. But they were able to obtain
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Speaker 1: that video surveillance. Why are three teams behind bars for
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Speaker 1: the homicide of this man, a forty two year old
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Speaker 1: Gabriel Kintania. They have just appeared for their first appearance
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Speaker 1: and now as a story unfolds, take a listen now
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Speaker 1: to far Police Chief Andy Harvey. The second part of this,
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Speaker 1: and I want to make sure it's clear, is that
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Speaker 1: there's some questions about why is it a capital murder
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Speaker 1: where versus just a murder? And it's a capital murder
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Speaker 1: because Kintania was kidnapped right when he was taken in
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Speaker 1: in the back of the everyone fifteen dropped off somewhere else.
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Speaker 1: So he was kidnapped, and then at the scene where
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Speaker 1: they dropped him off, the thinking that the Vinos they
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Speaker 1: got some property, that they removed some property or still
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Speaker 1: some property from Anthea. So that makes it a capital murder.
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Speaker 1: So I understand what they're saying to you, Katherine marsh
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Speaker 1: is that it is a capital murder because it was
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Speaker 1: what in conjunction with another felonies such as kidnapper, robbery.
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Speaker 1: That's right, So in Texas you can have a capital
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Speaker 1: murder crime when you have an intentional killing that goes
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Speaker 1: along with either a kidnapping or a robbery. And as
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Speaker 1: we heard from the police chief, he's saying, we've got
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Speaker 1: the elements here of a kidnapping, taking him from one
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Speaker 1: location to the other the field where he was found,
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Speaker 1: and then also some of his personal property was removed.
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Speaker 1: Mark Reagan, I'm very curious what is the property that
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Speaker 1: was stolen, because that makes it sounds sound like the
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Speaker 1: three the two brothers and the friend were after the
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Speaker 1: alleged victim, Gabriel Quarantania, to rob him the item. The
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Speaker 1: piece of property that was stolen was actually very personal.
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Speaker 1: It was a watch. I believe it was a gold
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Speaker 1: watch that Christian gave his stepfather for a birthday or
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Speaker 1: a Christmas. And the last thing Christian does after dumping
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Speaker 1: his stepdad in the field is he takes that watch back.
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Speaker 1: And that's the piece of property that was stolen. What
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Speaker 1: does that tell you, Karen Stark, so symbolist, Nancy, I mean,
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Speaker 1: if you think about what we're talking about with them
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Speaker 1: just dumping the body, he's staying absolutely made a mistake
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Speaker 1: in giving you this watch. You don't deserve anything, and
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Speaker 1: I'm taking no one else. It tells me, Karen Stark.
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Speaker 1: It tells me that at some point this teen boy
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Speaker 1: has now just turned seventeen, cared about the stepfather, Gabriel
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Speaker 1: Kintania enough for a young boy who doesn't have much
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Speaker 1: to get the money to buy the stepfather a gold watch.
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Speaker 1: And then, I mean, when you have a breakup or
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Speaker 1: something like that, Karen Starr, you want I want my
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Speaker 1: stuff back. You want your stuff back because it means
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Speaker 1: something because you were, let's just say, in love and
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Speaker 1: you feel betrayed and you want your stuff back to me.
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Speaker 1: I can just see this teen boy taking that gold
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Speaker 1: watch that he had given his stepfather back after he
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Speaker 1: had beat him so badly, because at one time he
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Speaker 1: cared for the stepfather. That's the picture that is so clear, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: That betrayal is the word you use that comes to mind.
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Speaker 1: That he loved him and cared about him and got
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Speaker 1: a gold not just a regular watch, but a gold watch,
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Speaker 1: and was so hurt, betrayed, angry that he grabbed that back.
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Speaker 1: He made sure after killing him he took the time
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Speaker 1: to take that watch. We're finding out more about how
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Speaker 1: the murder unfold. To take a listen to it for
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Speaker 1: a police chief Andy Harvey cut Ten. They found him
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Speaker 1: on veteran's road walking and so a third assault happened.
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Speaker 1: So this continues and it's the third time that they meet.
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Speaker 1: Well of what we learned now that during the second assault,
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Speaker 1: I believe Christian had some brass knuckles, so brass knuckles
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Speaker 1: were using these assaults. So they continued to assault Kania,
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Speaker 1: and this time they severely beat him to the point
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Speaker 1: where he's either unconscious or close to it. They then
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Speaker 1: decided to pick him up, kidnap him, put him in
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Speaker 1: back of the F one fifty in the bed and
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Speaker 1: drive off to somewhere in South McCallen. He was dropped
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Speaker 1: off somewhere in the Whalen McCall area. That's where the
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Speaker 1: McCallan Police Department was called and that's where they found
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Speaker 1: him later that day. We understand that he was unconscious
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Speaker 1: but breathing at the time, but nonetheless, Dania died there
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Speaker 1: at the open field. M You know, I haven't seen
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Speaker 1: a lot of people crying over this murder. Think about
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Speaker 1: it a murder with the use of brass knuckles. So
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Speaker 1: why am nearly two hundred and fifty thousand people joined
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Speaker 1: together to get these tangs out from behind bars? Because
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Speaker 1: to doctor Kinnall, Crown's chief medical examer joining us out
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Speaker 1: of Tarrant County, that's for worth explain what brass knuckles
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Speaker 1: do and why that's different from punching somebody with your fist.
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Speaker 1: So what brass knuckles are is they go over your
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Speaker 1: fingers and they are standardly metal. They can be shaped
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Speaker 1: in a way that they can have edges or even
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Speaker 1: points on them. And what they make you're punching more efficient,
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Speaker 1: So they cause more tissue damage with each punch because
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Speaker 1: the metal can cause more damage. And then again, if
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Speaker 1: they're shaped, it can also cause prying or punctures or
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Speaker 1: things like that. So breast knuckles make your punches better
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Speaker 1: or harder. Doctor Kennel Crown spoken like a true MD,
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Speaker 1: a medical doctor, a medical examer. Greg Shepherd break it
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Speaker 1: down for me. What do brass knuckles do? Because great damage.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna increase your damage. You punch somebody in the
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Speaker 1: face with brass knuckles, it's gonna be lights out. And
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Speaker 1: if you hit them multiple times, you could crush the skull,
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Speaker 1: cause hamdwrhaging to the brain. And also it protects the hand.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't cause the person using them. They don't worry
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Speaker 1: about breaking their knuckles when they're breaking the face vastating.
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Speaker 1: It's devastating to whoever is taking those punches. So why
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Speaker 1: again a quarter million people or what these out from
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Speaker 1: behind bars? Take a listen to our cut two Carena
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Speaker 1: Vargas CBS four. Three teens were charged today for the
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Speaker 1: murder of a forty three year old man. We first
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Speaker 1: brought you this story Thursday when far police were searching
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Speaker 1: for suspects after the death of Gabriel Quintanilla, and then
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Speaker 1: on Friday, investigators linked three teens you can see on
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Speaker 1: your screen. On the left is seventeen year old Christian Trevigno,
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Speaker 1: in the center eighteen year old Alejandro Travigno, and on
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Speaker 1: the right is nineteen year old Juan Eduardo Melendez. Titania
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Speaker 1: was found in a McCallen fields and police say that
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Speaker 1: several fights broke out at different locations after Gintania was
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Speaker 1: accused of touching his nine year old daughter, who was
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Speaker 1: also the half sibling two brothers. Kitania was left in
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Speaker 1: a field severely beaten. Investigation reviewed that the victim was
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Speaker 1: heard beaten with the brass knuckles and suffered severe hittram.
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Speaker 1: At that point all of the victim was ever written beaten.
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Speaker 1: The victim he has still have been alive when he
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Speaker 1: was there, and McCallan, we don't know for how long
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Speaker 1: has been set at five hundred thousand dollars for all suspects.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace straight out to Mark Reagan
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Speaker 1: joining us from the monitor. So bottom line, these three teams,
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Speaker 1: two of them brothers, were convinced the stepfather of Gabriel
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Speaker 1: Kingtania had been molesting the nine year old little sister.
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Speaker 1: Is that right, Oh, yeah, that's that's right. On that day,
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Speaker 1: the child had made an outcry to the mother, and
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Speaker 1: the and the and the boys found out about him.
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Speaker 1: But that's just part of the story. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our cuts six again. For Police Chief Andy Harvey,
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Speaker 1: this warrant was for a separate offense, not the nine
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Speaker 1: year old. We were not aware and we were not
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Speaker 1: aware of any history. Mark Reagan, another child molestation victim.
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Speaker 1: There's a warrant for a separate offense. What that's correct?
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Speaker 1: And we know very little about the details of that warrant. Well,
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Speaker 1: what do you know what the warrant was for, Yes,
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Speaker 1: continuous sexual abuse of a child, and not this nine
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Speaker 1: year old little girl, a different little girls, nine year
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Speaker 1: old girl. Can I just ask, theoretically, what was he
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Speaker 1: doing out and in the home with a nine year
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Speaker 1: old little girl? Why was he there? Shouldn't that be
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Speaker 1: have been a condition for if you got a warrant
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Speaker 1: for you, I mean, why was he allowed to be
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Speaker 1: in the home with a nine year old girl. It's
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Speaker 1: really hard for me to understand why the girl's mother
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Speaker 1: would let him in the home unless she didn't know
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Speaker 1: about it. Those are just a few questions running through
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Speaker 1: my mind. Let's take a listen to cut six again
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Speaker 1: the police Chief Andy Harvey, start from the top. Police,
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Speaker 1: this warrant was for a separate offense, not the nine
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Speaker 1: year old. We were not aware and we were not
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Speaker 1: aware of any history between Kinthania and his nine year
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Speaker 1: old girl, which allegedly happened on Wednesday night. So we
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Speaker 1: just don't know we have enough information about that because
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Speaker 1: that's still an ongoing investigation. So those are two separate incidents.
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Speaker 1: We had not heard from Kentthania. Obviously, he's been running
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Speaker 1: from us and we didn't know of him until he
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Speaker 1: was found deceased in McCallan and ongoing investigation and other words,
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Speaker 1: this guy's walking free after he's accused molesting one little girl.
23:53
Speaker 1: He's walking free because of an ongoing investigation. They don't
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Speaker 1: even know where he is. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: cut number four kr gvs. Monica Danda. That warrant for
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Speaker 1: gay rookie Danija for continuous sexual abuse of a child
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Speaker 1: was from another incident and that involved another minor, not
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Speaker 1: the miner currently involved in this case. We're also learning
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Speaker 1: tonight the mother of the Travino brothers may face charges
24:21
Speaker 1: the detectives went out to look for Kintania at that
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Speaker 1: time and we're unable to find him. They searched, they
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Speaker 1: went to his last known residence. They went to his
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Speaker 1: mother's residence multiple times. Far police first learned about gay
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Speaker 1: rookie Danija in twenty nineteen when a miner claimed King
24:39
Speaker 1: Danija sexually assaulted her between twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 1: He was being elusive, obviously and hiding from US Chief
24:48
Speaker 1: Harvey telling us King Danija's name was then entered in
24:50
Speaker 1: a national database and he'd been on the run ever since.
24:54
Speaker 1: So the ongoing three years of child lest unelas station
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Speaker 1: alleged going back to two thousand and sixteen. There was
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Speaker 1: a warrant taken out in two thousand nineteen. Now you
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Speaker 1: know what straight back out to you, Mark Reagan, I'm
25:14
Speaker 1: just ad JD a jurors doctorate. I'm not good at math.
25:17
Speaker 1: But let's see two thousand nineteen, two thousand and twenty,
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Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty one, two thousand and twenty two.
25:26
Speaker 1: There's been an ongoing investigation for four years on the
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Speaker 1: lestation that started back in two thousand and sixteen. Are
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Speaker 1: my numbers correct? Mark? Your numbers are correct, But from
25:37
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen to twenty two, it's been find the fugitive,
25:41
Speaker 1: you know, find the fugitive. Well, did he live there?
25:44
Speaker 1: Did he live in either mccallend or Far? From what
25:48
Speaker 1: I understand, he lived in Far And what's the population
25:52
Speaker 1: of Far Texas? Oh? You know, it's it's best just
25:55
Speaker 1: to lunk the whole area. And it's about it. It's
25:58
Speaker 1: about a million people grows into each other. This guy's
26:03
Speaker 1: living right under their noses and they couldn't find him,
26:05
Speaker 1: so he's out walking free, so he can molest another
26:08
Speaker 1: little girl that we know of. I mean Karen Stark,
26:12
Speaker 1: our friendly shrink from Manhattan, Karen Stark, How many times
26:17
Speaker 1: have we talked about the fact that once somebody's caught molesta,
26:20
Speaker 1: it's like doui. Once you catch a DOUI, they have
26:23
Speaker 1: already driven drunk. I've forgotten how many, a hundred x
26:26
Speaker 1: times they've already driven drunk. Same thing with child molestation,
26:30
Speaker 1: once you catch one, they've already molested what seventy times
26:34
Speaker 1: and they've never been caught? Is that the right number?
26:37
Speaker 1: I would say, so, Nancy Dave. They have been doing
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Speaker 1: this for many, many years, they can't stop it. I'm
26:44
Speaker 1: so mad right now, I could chew a nail and
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Speaker 1: half Karen Stark. When children aren't molested, they go on.
26:53
Speaker 1: From the outside looking in, it seems like they're having
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Speaker 1: a normal life. They're not. What are some of the
26:59
Speaker 1: side of it's a child molestation on the victim, But
27:02
Speaker 1: it influences everything, Nancy. They're not able to perform well
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Speaker 1: in school. Sometime it's trauma, so they can't sleep at night.
27:12
Speaker 1: They relive the incident. They don't feel comfortable around adults
27:17
Speaker 1: or people in general. Sometimes they develop a lot of phobias.
27:22
Speaker 1: It's a terrible, terrible thing, as you know, to do
27:26
Speaker 1: that to a child. Their life is never the same,
27:30
Speaker 1: that feeling of helplessness. To Greg Sheffer, former Phoenix PD
27:34
Speaker 1: detective twenty two years specializing and child sex exploitation crimes
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Speaker 1: against children, jump in, Greg, this is not a tea
27:45
Speaker 1: party over at high Growth, all right. We're talking about
27:49
Speaker 1: a child molester that has now been murdered. The sons
27:54
Speaker 1: had to take the law into their own hands. Well,
27:57
Speaker 1: when I heard about it, it sounds like they walked
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Speaker 1: that warrant through, so I don't think he was ever
28:03
Speaker 1: in custody for that prior Explain what you just said
28:07
Speaker 1: walking through, Well, it sounds like they never arrested him
28:10
Speaker 1: for that prior case, but they wanted to, and then
28:13
Speaker 1: he was in the wind, and so they walked that
28:16
Speaker 1: warrant through, which means they went through either a grand
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Speaker 1: jury to get an indictment so they could get a
28:22
Speaker 1: warrant to issue it and put it in the system
28:25
Speaker 1: so they could try to pick him up. So I
28:28
Speaker 1: don't know the details of that prior case, but obviously
28:31
Speaker 1: it was extensive. It was a two year crime of
28:35
Speaker 1: continuous sexual abuse. And obviously, if he lived in that town,
28:42
Speaker 1: his family knew about that as well, so that that
28:45
Speaker 1: was not a secret crime. I'm sure mom knew about it,
28:48
Speaker 1: and anybody associated with knew about that. But then when
28:53
Speaker 1: he did the repeat and he actually harmed someone closer
28:57
Speaker 1: to home, I think that's what enraged the brothers. Okay,
29:02
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on a limb here, Katherine Mars. Just
29:05
Speaker 1: based on what we know right now, if there had
29:07
Speaker 1: been ongoing sex molestation in the last case where he
29:11
Speaker 1: was walking free, that tells me ongoing a couple of
29:16
Speaker 1: years at least, a molesting a little girl, he had
29:19
Speaker 1: access to her like a parent, a stepfather and uncle,
29:24
Speaker 1: a piano teacher, something like that, where he had access
29:27
Speaker 1: to a child alone. Now doesn't that sound a lot
29:32
Speaker 1: like a similar transaction to you, because here you got
29:36
Speaker 1: a nine year old girl allegedly being molested by Gabriel Kintania.
29:43
Speaker 1: Same thing abolutely second sabs the first? How long how
29:48
Speaker 1: loudly do we have to sing? This is a man
29:50
Speaker 1: who has been in a position of trust and care
29:54
Speaker 1: for at least two young people that we know, he
29:57
Speaker 1: abused that trust and sexually molested them. And what we
30:01
Speaker 1: know is there was enough evidence for the first incident
30:05
Speaker 1: that the court or a commissioner from probable cause for
30:10
Speaker 1: that crime and issued a warrant. And the real travesty
30:13
Speaker 1: is from two thousand and nineteen, that warrant was not
30:17
Speaker 1: served and this little nine year old girl was also molested.
30:21
Speaker 1: And I bet you bottom dollar other girls were molested
30:24
Speaker 1: as well. Guys, take a listen to our cut five
30:30
Speaker 1: from KRGV. Police have arrested three teens, including Kindanija's stepsons,
30:35
Speaker 1: Alejandro and Christian Trevigno, and a third male, Mediz. According
30:40
Speaker 1: to police, they beat Kindanija after hearing he had allegedly
30:44
Speaker 1: sexually abused another miner who was also a family member.
30:47
Speaker 1: Now two of the teams facing capital murder charges. Capital
30:51
Speaker 1: murder because Kintania was kidnapped right when there. He was
30:56
Speaker 1: taken in in the back of the fifteen off somewhere else.
31:00
Speaker 1: So he was kidnapped and then at the scene where
31:03
Speaker 1: they dropped him off the thinking that the Dravinos they
31:10
Speaker 1: got some property, that they removed some property or still
31:13
Speaker 1: some property from Anthenia. We also asked Chief Harvey if
31:17
Speaker 1: there's a possibility the boy's mother could face charges. That's
31:20
Speaker 1: still all part of this open investigation. That is certainly
31:24
Speaker 1: a question that we had whether or not why we
31:27
Speaker 1: weren't notified and that kind of thing. So there's more
31:30
Speaker 1: questions out there, and that's something that we're still looking
31:32
Speaker 1: into crime stories with Nancy Grace. Mark Reagan is joining
31:50
Speaker 1: me for a reporter with the Monitor. Mark, why would
31:53
Speaker 1: the teen boys mother be arrested? What's the reasoning there?
31:59
Speaker 1: If she knew that King Tania had diswarned and she
32:03
Speaker 1: didn't turn him in, that would be hindering apprehension or prosecution.
32:09
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, the law would expect her to turn
32:11
Speaker 1: in her own husband. Yes, okay, that's probably not going
32:15
Speaker 1: to happen. But what I'm more concerned about, Mark Reagan,
32:20
Speaker 1: And of course you're absolutely right. But what I'm more
32:23
Speaker 1: concerned about if the mom knew about the alleged prior
32:28
Speaker 1: sex melitation molestation they went on for allegedly years on
32:32
Speaker 1: another little girl, why would she have him around the
32:35
Speaker 1: nine year old daughter and Mark Reagan also the nine
32:39
Speaker 1: year old alleged child molestation victim at the hands of
32:45
Speaker 1: now dead Gabriel Kittania. That's her daughter, right, that's correct.
32:50
Speaker 1: And her half brothers, her stepbrothers, are Christian and alanro correct,
32:58
Speaker 1: that's right. So from what I understand, the little girl
33:03
Speaker 1: admits that the dad, Gabriel Kingtania is molesting her, and
33:09
Speaker 1: the boys go and they go look for him, and
33:12
Speaker 1: they find him, right, that's right, and they kill him. Right,
33:16
Speaker 1: that's right, they kill him. I think one thing you
33:19
Speaker 1: can note though, is Alejandro owing participated in the first meeting,
33:24
Speaker 1: then Christian and his friend one go track him down
33:28
Speaker 1: the second time, then the third time. Take al us
33:31
Speaker 1: to our cut three k RGV. The three teens on
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Speaker 1: your screen now arraigned for the murder of a man
33:37
Speaker 1: in McCallen. Our police say the trio severely beat forty
33:40
Speaker 1: two year old Gabriel king Dania and dumped his body
33:43
Speaker 1: in a McCallen field. We first told you about this
33:46
Speaker 1: story on Thursday when police discovered the body. Officials tell
33:49
Speaker 1: us the incident started when a child alerted someone that
33:53
Speaker 1: king Dania had touched them inappropriately. After the teens confronted Kinthania,
33:58
Speaker 1: a fight broke out and continued at several locations before
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Speaker 1: he was dumped in McCallen. Police believe kingth Dania may
34:04
Speaker 1: have been alive when he was dropped off. Keithania was
34:07
Speaker 1: already wanted by police for ongoing abuse of a child.
34:10
Speaker 1: All three teams have been charged with aggravated assault and
34:13
Speaker 1: engaging it in criminal activity. Christian Travino and one and
34:17
Speaker 1: Guado Melendez also charged with capital murder and a lot
34:21
Speaker 1: of questions are we're finding answers to them. Now take
34:25
Speaker 1: a listen to our cut eight police chief again. February
34:28
Speaker 1: twenty first, our detectives met with Alejandro, the eighteen year old,
34:35
Speaker 1: and he talked about a fight that took place at
34:39
Speaker 1: twelve to one piece more trailer. It's a trailer Part
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Speaker 1: one forty involving Alejandro and Christian his brother and what
34:49
Speaker 1: they have. What they heard was to be an alleged
34:54
Speaker 1: touched by their stepdad, King Dania with their sister nine
34:59
Speaker 1: year old sister. They learned that their stepdad had inappropriately
35:03
Speaker 1: touched her his nine year old, which is their stepsister,
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Speaker 1: half half sister. Which is also important to note that
35:12
Speaker 1: the nine year old that was the victim, this is
35:15
Speaker 1: her biological dad. Ktany has her biological father. It has
35:18
Speaker 1: a lot of different legs here, So I'm trying to
35:20
Speaker 1: keep everybody kind of up to date here. So here's
35:25
Speaker 1: a guy that's been charged with child molestation on a
35:28
Speaker 1: little girl before. I would wager somebody he's related to,
35:34
Speaker 1: because he had access to the child to molest them
35:38
Speaker 1: over a period of years. Nobody stopped him. Get a
35:44
Speaker 1: warrant on him. It gets walked through. In other words,
35:48
Speaker 1: they they get the warrant, he's charged, and then he's
35:51
Speaker 1: As was said earlier in the Wind on the Loose,
35:56
Speaker 1: cops don't do their job. They don't find him until
36:00
Speaker 1: he turns up half dead out in a field. Because
36:05
Speaker 1: they didn't do their job, he's free to molest again.
36:12
Speaker 1: This little girl that we know of how many others
36:14
Speaker 1: don't know. Now, I'm not suggesting police are responsible for
36:19
Speaker 1: the death, the homicide, but I am saying they dropped
36:23
Speaker 1: the ball and didn't put this guy behind bars. Of course,
36:26
Speaker 1: on the other hand, Mark Reagan, you and I were
36:29
Speaker 1: talking off camera about jail crowding, and it was my
36:32
Speaker 1: belief that in Texas they don't just let you out
36:37
Speaker 1: because the jail is crowded. But am I wrong? You know,
36:41
Speaker 1: they don't just let you out because the jail is
36:43
Speaker 1: overcrowded in like they do in New York City and
36:47
Speaker 1: City of Atlanta and many other big jurisdictions. They just here,
36:51
Speaker 1: give me your fingerprint, boo. You know in New York
36:55
Speaker 1: they were actually then giving arrestes gift cards. Mark Reagan,
37:00
Speaker 1: you know that right in New York City, Deblasia was
37:03
Speaker 1: handing out gift cards to people after they got I'm
37:07
Speaker 1: not aware of that. Yeah, well now you are. M hmm.
37:10
Speaker 1: It's like you get a prize for getting arrested. Mark
37:13
Speaker 1: Reagan joining me from the monitor at Rio Grand Valley. Mark,
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Speaker 1: they fight, let me say, went to multiple locations. Tell
37:24
Speaker 1: me about that. I'm sure it was kind of They
37:28
Speaker 1: caught him outside the initial apartment complex. They beat him,
37:32
Speaker 1: he ran away on foot, They tracked him down, they
37:36
Speaker 1: beat him again. He was able to get away one
37:39
Speaker 1: more time, and then they went and they found him
37:40
Speaker 1: a final time and he didn't get away that time.
37:44
Speaker 1: What is the mother saying about all of this, Mark
37:47
Speaker 1: Reagan right now? Nothing publicly. All they've been saying is
37:51
Speaker 1: we need we need money to get a lawyer, a
37:55
Speaker 1: lawyer for the three boys, the teams for their boys.
37:59
Speaker 1: That's right. This is what we are learning about the
38:02
Speaker 1: way that the homicide unfold. To take us to our
38:05
Speaker 1: cut nine is the police chief Andy Harvey. Again, this
38:09
Speaker 1: is what happened. They found out about this. There was
38:11
Speaker 1: a fight that ensued there inside the trailer between the
38:14
Speaker 1: two brothers and their stepdad. There was a fight stepdad.
38:19
Speaker 1: Kintania leaves the trailer. He walks out, and shortly right
38:24
Speaker 1: down the road, Christian that the older brother leaves, catches
38:31
Speaker 1: up to Quintania and there's a fight that ensues. Well
38:36
Speaker 1: around the same time, Christian and Juan Melendez, the friend,
38:41
Speaker 1: catch up to them. They get involved in the fight
38:43
Speaker 1: and so there's three against one. So the second assault
38:47
Speaker 1: happened right down the road on More. A few minutes later,
38:50
Speaker 1: they leave him there. He's beaten up, but he's still
38:55
Speaker 1: conscious and walking. The three leaves drop off Alejandro, I
39:00
Speaker 1: get the house. They go to Juan's house, pick up
39:03
Speaker 1: a different car. They picked up a white fe fifty,
39:08
Speaker 1: and they decide to go back and look for King
39:11
Speaker 1: Dania to see if they can find him again. Well,
39:15
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the first time that vigilante justice was
39:19
Speaker 1: carried out. Take a listen now to our cut eighteen
39:24
Speaker 1: from ABC. A frantic father called nine one after finding
39:29
Speaker 1: a farmhand, he sues Flores allegedly sexually assaulting his little girl.
39:34
Speaker 1: The Lavaca County District Attorney's office released the dramatic call. Okay,
39:45
Speaker 1: I'm glad the guy who in that case, the defendant
39:54
Speaker 1: who attacked his daughter's molester, was let free. So explain
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Speaker 1: to me right now. Straight back out to our friend
40:04
Speaker 1: Mark Reagan from the Monitor in Rio Grand Valley, where
40:08
Speaker 1: does the case stand now? You've got at least a
40:11
Speaker 1: two time sex offender on children allegedly walking free, and
40:17
Speaker 1: the brothers of the little girl find him and beat
40:21
Speaker 1: him and he dies. They're the ones behind bars. Where
40:25
Speaker 1: does the case stand right now, Mark, Well, right now,
40:28
Speaker 1: what's probably happening is that the boys are going to
40:31
Speaker 1: get I'm sure they're going to get quarter pointed attorneys,
40:35
Speaker 1: and those attorneys are likely going to file what's called
40:38
Speaker 1: a rid of habeas court is basically a bond reduction,
40:40
Speaker 1: and they'll get they'll probably get where the attorneys, you know,
40:45
Speaker 1: they'll make several arguments, you know, bail can't be used
40:49
Speaker 1: as punishment safety for the community, and they'll hash it
40:52
Speaker 1: out and try to try to get these bonds reduced
40:54
Speaker 1: for these young men. And then simultaneously, the police department
40:59
Speaker 1: is I'm sure is continuing to investigate and working with
41:03
Speaker 1: parsecutors in the DA's office to build an indictment to
41:06
Speaker 1: eventually predict to a grand jury. If you want to
41:11
Speaker 1: help in any way or find out more, go to
41:14
Speaker 1: change dot org Justice for Alhandro, Christian and Juan. Repeat,
41:20
Speaker 1: Change dot org Justice for Alahandro, Christian and Juan. If
41:26
Speaker 1: you know of someone that is being sex assaulted, don't
41:30
Speaker 1: just stand by and do nothing. If you need help yourself,
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Speaker 1: three let justice be done, Goodbye friend,