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Ep. 6 — Patriots, Progress, and the Price of the Constitution · 4DAFAM

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What up, what up, what up? What's going on? Six Mill, keeping it true. This your boy KG.
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Welcome to episode six of For The Fam Podcast.
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What's good, brother? How you been feeling? Pretty good, man.
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Pretty good. Can't complain. A little gloomy out today, but you know.
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We need it though, man. Ground has been so dry.
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And then the next, I think the next six or seven days was
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supposed to be in the 80s i think we're gonna hit the 90s
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again bro oh yeah man it's
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back we thought we had got past that little uh
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heat wave but it's back i said
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on a what a hoodie a couple days last week
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when i was out at night hey the midwest man you
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know we get a little bit of everything bro yep so what's what's on your mind
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man what you want to talk about today So today we're going to touch on whether
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or not so-called patriots of today are hindering the growth and progress of
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all people in this country.
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What we mean by that is if is are they leaning on the Constitution way too much where.
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Well, let me stop there. Not if a lot of them are leaning on the Constitution
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to the point where they don't feel it should be amended.
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It's the gospel it was written this
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is what it is and we're not supposed to make any changes so
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we're going to discuss different ways that it
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could potentially be holding us all back yeah i i don't even want to just specifically
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regulate it to patriots i think lawmakers yeah congress the senate the supreme
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court i think they all in my opinion Yeah.
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It's to protect their true feelings, which basically makes them cowards,
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in my opinions or in my opinion.
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But I think they try and lean on the Constitution and this is the original framework,
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et cetera, et cetera, to justify just their bias or their racism or whatever the case may be.
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Yeah, I think like you just said, it's but I think I mentioned you on the phone
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a couple of days ago where if the founding fathers were to come back now,
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they would laugh because they would say,
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do you mean to tell me that you guys haven't changed any of these amendments
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like you haven't updated them? Right.
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Kept them the same. Right. Almost 250 years. Which technically the Constitution
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has been changed. Right.
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Because that's what an amendment is. There are lots of amendments to the Constitution.
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But like I was just saying previously, what these clowns try and do when it's
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something that they just don't want to support is they try and go,
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oh, this isn't what the framers had in mind when they wrote this 250 years ago.
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So, hey, there's a lot of things the framers didn't have in mind because it
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was written 250 years ago.
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I mean, I can give you one in particular. I mean, George Washington talked about
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how morally reprehensible slavery was while still owning quite a few slaves. Hypocrite.
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For like another 30 or 40 years. Hypocrite.
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Which all of them own slaves, bro.
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And they and all of them at one point, with the exception of Ben Franklin,
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who later talked about how bad slavery was, but every single one of them talked
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about how horrible it was, but didn't do anything.
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Didn't do anything to change it. That's exactly right, bro.
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That's exactly. And that's why a lot of a lot of. Don't get me wrong.
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They are important in terms of the history of America. True.
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They did write a document that, excuse me, for all intents and purposes, stood the test of time.
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Cannot deny that there is a level of genius to it.
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But at the same time, we can't lean on that just as a way of trying to keep
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things the same. Everything gets updated.
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Technology, your car, your phone, whatever the case may be, it all gets updated.
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So to lean on that, like I said, it's just an excuse in my opinion.
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Can you imagine buying an electric vehicle of any kind and having to roll your
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window down by hand? Hmm.
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Hmm. That would be kind of funny, though. Okay. That'd be hilarious.
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I'm like, hey, let me just get the car I just rolled my window down Is it going
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to save me a couple grand?
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Alright, cool, yeah, I just rolled my window down.
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But, an EV Something that they never even dreamed about You know what I'm saying? And it's just like,
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Your phone. They credit Ben Franklin with coming up with the phone.
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He would have never imagined right now that everyone's walking around with a phone in their pocket.
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A phone that can do so much, by the way. I mean, technically a mini computer in your pocket.
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So it's funny you talk, you say a computer.
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So coming up, you know, we didn't have computers in the home. As we got older, we did.
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We had the big, big ass computer monitors.
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Commodore 64s. Right. But we're going right back to what it was before.
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So when I hire people and I send them over their onboarding packages and then
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I reach out to them, hey, did you start your onboarding?
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Well, I downloaded the app on my phone. I tried to do it. It wouldn't work.
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Now you need to do it from a computer. The response I always get is,
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all right, well, I need to go to the library.
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Nobody has computers in their homes anymore. Because of the phone. Right.
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So if like me, for example, yes, I have a computer. It's a work computer, but I also have an iPad.
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There's like maybe nine or ten different Apple units in my house.
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They're mostly phones and iPads.
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You know, so, yeah, you're right. It would have, they would have never conceived what we have now.
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And to, let's just say they did.
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Let's just say there were computers back then. And they wrote something up for
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the slow ass computers we were using. Right. Playing Oregon Trail in eighth grade.
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Right. And then we just left everything that they wrote on that paper to what it is.
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And we didn't update any of the verbiage.
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Or the graphics, for that matter. Right.
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Oh, they were horrible.
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Well, what happened? Your wagon would stop moving and you'd get a pop-up and
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say you died of dysentery. Right.
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Right. Yeah. Yeah.
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I don't know. was just like the,
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Like I said, purists, I guess you want to call them if that's a good term for them.
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I just I just feel like sometimes you just have to let things be.
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The natural progression is the natural progression.
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Stop trying to thwart that progression by claiming that this isn't what these dudes want.
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Who cares? They're dead.
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They're not coming back. It doesn't matter at this point what they wanted.
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If this is something that will help the country progress, let's move towards
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it or at least have the debate.
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Talk about the pros, talk about the cons, and then we can decide whether or
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not something needs to be changed.
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Something needs to be changed, you know, and, you know, it's just like I said,
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I just feel like it's so cowardice to just always fall back on.
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This isn't what the forefathers intended, you know, even even when which doesn't
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mean anything. But even when they talk about precedence in legal cases.
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It's kind of like you're cherry picking when you want to refer to precedence
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and when you don't, there is no precedent for all of the stuff that you let
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Cheeto get away with. There's no precedent for that.
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But then if there is something that you don't want to. Oh, no,
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there is no precedence for this.
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So we can't decide this way or just like knock it off with all of that.
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And the crazy thing is that is the founding fathers were technically considered rebels.
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They were rebels. They were people who were trying to turn the system up on
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upside down and and and rewrite it.
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But, you know, the crazy thing about it, did they?
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No. Or did they just sell? That's exactly what happened. And then just adopted everything.
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That's exactly what they did. They left England because they didn't like the
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way things were being handled.
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And then adopted everything they did. Came to America and became another England, basically.
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In a nutshell, that's America. We just want to run it ourselves.
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That's it. So instead of taking you over, we're going to go this way and rewrite
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everything. And you know what else is funny, too, is if you ask.
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My bad. But the only thing they didn't institute was the monarchy.
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That's it. Correct. Correct. Correct.
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If you take eight out of 10 so-called purists and ask them, when was the Constitution signed?
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Eight out of 10 of them will say what year?
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1776. Wrong. We're coming up on the anniversary in what? Four days.
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Signed September 17, 1787.
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Half of them don't even know when the paper was signed.
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But yet they want to keep it the way that it is. They don't understand it.
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They don't know what it is. They only know certain portions.
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They only agree to the first part, like especially the First Amendment.
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First and second. Oh my God. First and second. Those are the only ones they
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know. That's it. First and second. Freedom of speech, guns.
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Freedom of speech, guns. That's it. But think about it like this, bro.
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If you want to have a freedom of speech conversation, who is the biggest offender
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when it comes to free speech?
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Oh, as far as limiting it goes? Yeah. Well, it's always the right.
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Think about this, bro. And for people listening, I'm not just saying that.
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Like, turn on your TV, read a book.
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How many lawsuits have dude filed which all technically should file or fall
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under freedom of speech?
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Quite a few. How much money has he made just the last eight months of networks
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just giving him money. Right. Just to make it go away. Right.
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Right. You are limiting freedom of speech.
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You can't sue people because they disagree with you politically.
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You can't stop their mergers from going through because they disagree with you politically.
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You are the biggest offender of free speech.
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But everyone always want to talk about free speech, free speech,
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free speech. Well, that pendulum swings both ways.
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Even even going back to right before we started, what did I what did I read
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to you? I read to you that he's calling for the jailing of Democratic donors.
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Now, I don't know the full context of it because we didn't read the article
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yet, but that's the headline. So my guess is he must have said something on
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Truth Social recently that talked about jailing Democratic donors.
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Like, it's just insane to me, man.
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It is. It is insane. And like I said, I'm just I'm just like, I don't know.
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I don't know where we go from here,
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but I do think that we'll make much more progress when we stop looking to this
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document or looking to history as a reason to not move forward. Right.
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You know what I'm saying? And that and like I said, I'm speaking in terms of
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the lawmakers, Congress, the Senate, Supreme Court, et cetera.
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But also like historians who romanticize history in their writings and it's just like, OK, cool.
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But again, put it in proper context. We can't always look at history and go
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things were so much better because X, Y and Z. because on the flip side of that
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especially of us being black better for who?
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Yeah we can always go better for who? Right.
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So we can't always go and romanticize oh the 1800s was this that and other it wasn't good for us,
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Now, to quote Malcolm X, I know I probably would have been in the house,
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but that don't mean that I wanted to be in the house.
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Well, if you would have been in the house, my black ass definitely would have been outside.
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Hey, it would have been like Martin and Eddie Murphy in life.
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Martin had the suit on, Eddie was out there trimming the head. Yard boy. Right.
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And it's you know it's just it's insane
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considering like even when you take it back to
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recent comments by our idiot lieutenant governor
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yes i called him an idiot i think the dude's an idiot about the three-fifths
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compromise how it helped us you know what i'm saying but that's that's the reason
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for this conversation right like you came up with this topic long before any
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of the events that have happened in the past few days this is something that you mentioned a week,
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week and a half ago, but it's, it's comments like the ones that he has made
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and had doubled down on them.
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And the fact that he's a, and I'm using air quotes, a so-called Christian to
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talk about how the three fifths compromise actually helped black folk.
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You know, what's, what's two things crazy about that, right?
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Because in the document, it says all men are created equal.
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But then you go back and you make the three fifths clause or statement or whatever.
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It's like, you know, you just contradicted yourself.
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But they ordered a special session to come up with that. Yeah.
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And, you know, what's funny is that what gets lost in that is the North didn't
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argue that it was bogus because black people should be considered one person.
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They said no no no you shouldn't include black people at
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all that's what gets lost in history
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a lot is the north didn't argue with them about saying hey man you have to count
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black people as a person the north was like no you can't count them at all and
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the south was like what about if we do three-fifths and the north said so you
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know what that did is that gave them more power.
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More power in the government something that
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just gets lost it was all a power grab it
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was a power grab it was all a power grab and mostly about voting which exactly
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we will probably get into at a in a future podcast but yeah it was mostly about
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voting yeah so the north gets a lot of praise throughout history where there
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was say there were times where the north was just like Whatever.
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For sure. Yeah, whatever. For sure. We don't like it, but we do what you do. For sure.
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Definitely not as progressive, quote unquote, as they try and make it seem.
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No, you're right. There were just as many races in the North as there were in the South.
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And you and I grew up.
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For sure. What, maybe 20 miles from a place that Martin Luther King called the
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most racist place he had ever been?
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You know, they got a Klan display in the Indiana State Museum, bro.
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This is the Klan capital. Now, look, I know I may think differently than a lot
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of other people when it comes.
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Because I love me and I love history. It's no secret.
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So I don't mind historical items being displayed in museums.
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That doesn't bother me. when you
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want to erect them and put them in front of state houses and
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and keep like you know the confederate portion like you know in you know south
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carolina and mississippi play those different places over the years you just
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want to keep things the way that they were without knowing your history i'm
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sorry you know your history right you know it you just don't want to lose those voters,
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you know how ignorant it is to put a confederate statue back up you know how stupid that is
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Or to do what he wants to do in D.C., putting a couple of them back up in D.C.,
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the blackest place in this country. I don't. I don't. Yes, you're right.
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It's about catering to your voting base. At the same time, though,
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I also think it's about antagonizing black people. Yeah.
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I want to 100 percent think that there is just let me show these blankety blanks what I can do.
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And you have no power to stop it.
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Yeah, it's wild, man. It all just kind of turns my stomach.
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It turns my stomach in a way that I won't say I don't expect it.
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But again, we're talking about progress and you would think at this point in
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the game that we'd be beyond that.
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And we can just have a debate about ideas instead of trying to race bait.
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But one side doesn't have ideas. So what do you go back to?
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Race bait. I think that for people like you and I, who I believe are rational
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thinkers, I mean, I haven't always been a rational person.
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I mean, anybody that know me, grew up with me, know I ain't always been rational
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about a lot of things. But one of the things that I will never,
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like, just turn my back on is, you don't like me, I don't like you.
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Anything that you're against for the progression of my people,
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my children, my grandchildren, my nieces, my nephews, I have no love for you. Mm-hmm.
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Period. And it doesn't matter who you are, what you do for a living,
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how many church sermons you give, how many Sundays you go to church,
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how much you give to charity.
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If you are against me in any way, shape or form or the women,
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the woman who brought me into this world, the women who helped raise me,
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then I have no love for you.
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If that includes me saying, no, I ain't going to say that. Well,
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the silliest part of it for me is you hate someone for something that they can't control.
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That's the silliest part to me. No one chose to be black, white,
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Hispanic, Asian. It's like Hispanic to the world.
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You have no control over it. So it's just so, like I said, it's just silly to
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me. It's just like that's the base level.
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To me it shows a lack of intelligence exactly it
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doesn't matter what type of degree you have on your wall if you are if
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you hate black folk hell if you hate white folk right whatever
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right exactly the hatred that's displayed like it shows a lack of intelligence
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yep yep it just does it you're an idiot yep i mean there's a i'm trying i'm
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trying to think how to word this no I felt like that a few times I'm like I'm doing it too many,
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there are white people that I don't like.
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There are black people that I don't like absolutely you know so it's not and it's all based on.
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Individual interactions you know what I'm saying it's not just I hate this group
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because XYZ or this group behaves this way which we'll get into later on in the podcast.
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But it's just like, no, it's not about making generalizations.
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I deal with people on a case by case basis.
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So if I don't like you, whether you black, white, Asian, Hispanic,
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whatever, it's because you did something to offend me. Can you imagine doing your job.
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And everyone that you see knows that you don't like them. Can you imagine how
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difficult your job would be?
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Hell, 95, I'd lose 95% of my workforce. Right.
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If I said that I hated that group of people, I would literally lose 28 to 29
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employees immediately. But you know what's the rub on that?
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These fools that hate you and still smile on your face and take your money, though.
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I got a couple of them. will absolutely hate your
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guts but a smile on your face and
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take your money which makes you scum in
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my opinion all day yeah so i
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don't know brother i think we uh covered that pretty well anything else
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you want to talk about as far as that go no i
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think we good all right cool cool cool next we
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want to talk about some current events you got a current event
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you want to talk about you know what i do all
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right i want to talk about this is this is in the sports stratosphere
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so a lot of people in our generation grew up on famous journalists and i know
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we don't really care for you know like pardon the interruption for example like
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people like tony kornheiser michael wilbon very well respected journalists and
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i used to love this yeah and at one point So was Stephen A. Smith.
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Very respected, very credible journalist.
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So today that person is Pablo Torre, whereas he has uncovered this whole no
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show contract thing with Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers.
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And basically, in a nutshell, for those who aren't paying attention,
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Kawhi Leonard, sorry, the Clippers were accused when Kawhi was in Toronto of tampering.
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Toronto went to the league. The league basically said, nah, everything is good.
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Now to come to find out that they circumvented the salary cap and offered him
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twenty eight million dollars on a job that was basically a no show job.
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So he never did anything for the money.
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He just got an extra $28 million on top of it. Now, this is Pablo Torre.
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For those who may not know Pablo Torre, I believe this because this dude is
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an investigative journalist and he wouldn't put his name on this stuff if it wasn't true.
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ESPN has picked up the story. They've been running with it as well.
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Well, come to find out when he first went to Toronto, he asked for a no show
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job there, too, was Uncle Dennis did.
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So this is all the way to circumvent paying the excise tax when you go above
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the salary cap. Yes. Gotcha. So.
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We've got the paper trail and it was through the company called Aspiration.
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I would just, I would probably, and of course I'm probably wrong, kind of like Cash App.
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I know they've had like their own debit card savings programs and stuff like that.
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They've since gone bankrupt, I think twice. And the CEO is gone.
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He has denied all of this. Steve Ballmer has denied it, but obviously the NBA
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and credible media outlets have taken it serious. So the reason I brought all
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of it up and when I mentioned true journalism, you got people on this.
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Well, not here on the SP anymore. Channing Frye who said, why are you snitching?
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Who cares anyway?
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I don't know which one of those questions are dumb.
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Bruh, the salary cap is put in place and negotiated by your union.
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Right. You are a retired player.
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Right. You still benefit from that CBA in some way, shape or form.
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Well, the whole point of it is so smaller markets can compete with larger markets. Yes.
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And you wouldn't have the same problem they had in baseball where the Yankees,
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because they have so much cheese, just spin, spin, spin.
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And now the Yankees got an all star team and everyone else is going.
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What about us? So that's the reason for the salary cap so the playing field can stay competitive.
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So, yeah, if you got someone trying to circumvent, then, yeah,
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you're going to get punished. Now, let me say this.
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I'm going to take a step away from what I just said. Now, get your money.
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Oh, for sure. I ain't mad at him. I ain't watching your pockets.
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You are worth whatever people will pay you. Right.
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There are a million people out there to say Major League Baseball,
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soccer players, NBA, NFL are all overpaid.
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They're worth whatever somebody will pay them. Facts. So if they figured out
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a way to get Kawhi $28 million to leave Toronto to come to LA,
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kudos to you, Uncle Dennis and Kawhi. Mm-hmm.
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But it breaks the contract. Right. Of the CBA.
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And I don't think these fools understand how much trouble they can get in.
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Right. With this. Right. Like, it's a business.
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Right. Charges can be filed. Right.
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Right. It is essentially fraud. Right. Like I said, get your money,
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but understand that there might be consequences to you getting that extra $28 million. Right, right.
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So that's what I had. Cool.
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I'm going to talk about journalism, but in a different way.
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So for those who are not aware, which I'm sure most of us are,
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there was a shooting in Orem, Utah this week.
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Now, it's been, in my opinion, covered poorly.
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By the mass well i
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shouldn't say mass but mainstream media but here's
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here's what i want to
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sort of really touch on right is the one the way that the media has not covered
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this truthfully in my opinion because it's okay to say that we don't condone
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violence which i'll say for the record,
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we don't condone violence on this podcast.
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It's okay to say that, but at the same time, it is okay to tell the truth about
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a person and what that person stood for.
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No one is saying to demonize the dead, but if the dead wasn't exactly a good
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person, let's not try and sugar coat and put lipstick on a pig.
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Call a spade a spade. Now, with that being said, I also want to talk about the
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rhetoric because the first thing they want to talk about is the rhetoric, the rhetoric.
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The rhetoric is inflamed. We need to tone down the rhetoric.
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Well, one side without any evidence was blaming the other side.
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And I mean, like immediately after this horrific event took place.
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I did not. Well, no, I take that back. I did see one journalist push back and
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go, why didn't you have this kind of smoke for the lawmakers that were killed in Minnesota?
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But you know what I didn't see? Not one journalist asked any of those fools. How do they know?
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The suspect was still at large. How do you know who he supports?
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How do you know how he votes? How do you know he's with this side or that side,
29:09
whatever the case may be?
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No one asked that in the media. They just kept letting these fools spew their idiocracy.
29:17
And it just drives me crazy because it's like, what happened to journalism?
29:26
Your boy who got fired that you told me about. Nuts. The guy didn't say anything inflammatory.
29:36
So to his credit, he was trying to be a responsible journalist,
29:43
if you want to call him that, and he gets fired for it.
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So what are we doing here?
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If we can't tell the truth, then what good is the news?
29:54
So now we just got propaganda. So now we're North Korea, pretty much.
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Lord have mercy. God forbid.
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God forbid. And like I was saying on episode five.
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The one thing that we cannot forget. And let's take a trip through history.
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Lincoln assassinated. What's the guy with the musical? Hamilton.
30:20
He got killed in a duel, right? Yeah, Alan Burr.
30:24
MLK assassinated. Malcolm X assassinated. JFK assassinated.
30:31
Medgar Evers assassinated. There's always been political assassinations. from the beginning.
30:39
It's part of our DNA. It's as American as apple pie, as they say.
30:45
What is the common denominator in every assassination?
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The gun. Until we start trying to have a real conversation about guns and gun control.
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I don't even want to hear it about stop the violence.
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You don't want to do anything to stop the violence. The proof is in the pudding.
31:06
Well, the biggest issue is that any time, as Democrats like to say all the time,
31:13
common sense gun laws come up, it always gets switched.
31:17
And the rhetoric is Democrats want to take away your gun. Right.
31:20
When I would probably say 90 percent of the lawmakers, Democrat wise,
31:26
they got they have guns. For sure. Several.
31:29
For sure. A lot of them are retired military. Right. Just like it is on the
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right. Most of those guys are retired military.
31:35
Right. So absolutely they have guns. Right. Do you know how many guns?
31:40
You know how long it would take? what we got five six seven hundred million
31:43
guns in this country how long that would take do you know how many people like
31:49
look I've said it before I had a neighbor who I thought had no business being
31:54
out on his own I thought he needed an escort.
31:59
He had,
32:01
leave it up to him. He probably had about 20, 30 guns in that house.
32:05
But if somebody would have knocked on that door to try to take his guns away,
32:08
I would have been right there defending him.
32:09
Even though he spewed a lot of nonsense, I didn't care for.
32:13
If somebody came and said, we just want to take your guns, even though he hasn't
32:16
been charged for anything, I'm going to be right there fighting with him for him to keep his guns.
32:22
So that's why the whole narrative that's always spewed that Democrats don't
32:26
want anybody to have guns. It's just, It's it's insane.
32:30
It's stupid. It's a stupid argument. It's a stupid conversation. I agree.
32:36
I agree 100 percent. And again, I feel like this is something that Democrats
32:40
continue to miss the boat on.
32:43
You know, they always let the conversation get hijacked.
32:46
I don't know, bro. That's that's that's about all I have for current events.
32:49
Anything you want to touch on or anything else you want to touch on since you
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already touched on a current event?
32:55
Nah, I kind of want to get to one of our favorite movies from high school.
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All right. Well, first, let's do our work.
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Everyone's favorite segment, by the way. And let's rant about a random topic.
33:09
You got anything you want to rant about as far as a random topic,
33:11
bro? I'm going to let you go. All right. So it's football season, y'all.
33:15
And I am a football fan. I love football.
33:21
Let me say that again. I love football.
33:25
And most of us football fans know that your quarterback is usually the highest
33:32
paid or one of the highest paid players on the team, especially if he's good.
33:37
Something about the quarterback hit me recently.
33:42
I was just like, you know, even if your quarterback isn't that good,
33:46
he probably deserves a little bit extra on his paycheck.
33:50
And here's why I say that. How long is a football game?
33:55
Well, as far as quarters, you're talking about 60 minutes, four quarters?
33:59
Thank you. Thank you for not saying three hours.
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Thank you for saying that a football game is 60 minutes. Thank you for that, brother.
34:08
For half of that game. The quarterback hands are on another man's sweaty ass.
34:19
You deserve some extra money for that.
34:25
This man is 300 pounds. This man has been sweating all damn day.
34:31
And you got to go put your hand in his ass for half of the game.
34:37
Look coach we we
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going out of the shotgun man i'm sorry i can't do
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it i i'm i just can't so
34:47
yeah when i hear that these young players are like he only
34:50
operates out of the shotgun well that's probably why our quarterback is in the
34:55
shotgun so much like nah nah i'm hey i'm with it i get it now i get it i'd be
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like hey coach we need to run these players out of the shotgun man i'm sorry
35:05
I just I just can't do this. And I'm kind of a germaphobe.
35:09
So I think I would always feel like my hands aren't clean or I'd be wearing
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gloves like a lot of these guys are starting to do.
35:17
But then they say that you don't have the feel of the ball.
35:20
Sure, you can. I got to use that stuff. Jerry Rice used to use.
35:24
Stick them on that. See, I wasn't.
35:30
I was going to let that one rock. He's still the greatest.
35:34
He's still the greatest, but hey, that's like you said a few minutes ago.
35:38
Let's call a spade a spade. That brother had stick them on his gloves.
35:42
That brother had stick them on his gloves.
35:46
That's my work, bro. You want to rant about Jerry Rice and his stick them? No, I'm not.
35:53
No, no, I'm good. Because he admitted it in a roundabout way a couple of years ago.
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Oh, man. Jerry, we love you, man. You are a Hall of Famer in our book always.
36:07
And possibly a distant relative of mine. We don't know yet. You know,
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he's from where my people from.
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No, that's what's up. That's cool. We'll just say, you know,
36:15
he like the fourth cousin once removed.
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Okay. Okay. All right. That's what's up. I ain't got no proof, but, you know.
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Hey, well, I mean, chances are you ain't wrong. I mean, think about them small
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towns. Everybody was related in some kind of way back then.
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Especially in a town like Starkville. So, yeah, man.
36:32
I mean, it used to trip me out when we used to go back to Alabama and, like, the whole town.
36:37
It'd be, this your cousin, so-and-so, and this your cousin. It'd be,
36:40
like, everybody in the town is a cousin.
36:42
But, hey, it's just kind of what it was back then. Think about it back home.
36:47
I can't look. What, our neighborhood was, what, 13 blocks, 14 blocks long?
36:51
Dude, I got at least two relatives on every street in that city That's interesting
36:56
You probably got about three on every street No,
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no, that ain't true Your family way bigger than mine My family is big,
37:04
but I didn't have a lot of cousins like you had growing up though.
37:09
That ain't necessarily true. Shoot, man. I had, what, on my daddy's side, first cousins.
37:15
There's like 26. Oh, wow. And on my mama's side, there's like 24, 25 first cousins.
37:21
My daddy only had one brother, and they lived in Milwaukee.
37:25
Yeah. So I had kinfolk, but not like that.
37:30
Shoot, what, my daddy, what, one of 10 or 11? And my mama's like one of eight, seven, eight.
37:35
I'm drawing a blank off the top of my head. And see, my mom,
37:38
I had two aunts in the city and then the rest of my mom's siblings.
37:43
Well, my one aunt lived in Florida and others lived in Alabama.
37:47
So. So, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Probably as big as my family is not like you think.
37:53
So it was it was spread out, if that makes any sense.
37:58
All right. I think I think we covered our work for today.
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So now we want to get into five on
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the black hand side yes indeed and
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this week we are going to review a
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cult classic a hood classic if you want to call it that menace to society take
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it away my brother okay so i want to start it off by giving a brief brief synopsis
38:27
talk about the directors the awards, the awards it won.
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And just to mention, how we felt about the movie when we were 17,
38:35
18, because it came out the year we graduated.
38:37
So we would have been 17.
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We loved the movie. Absolutely loved it. Loved it growing up. I'm going to get to that.
38:46
So for those who've never seen it, directed by the Hughes brothers,
38:51
they're identical twin brothers.
38:53
Brief list of awards that the movie won 1994 mtv
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movie awards and won best song straight up menace
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with mca it was nominated nominated best
39:03
new filmmakers which by the way the hughes brothers were only 20
39:06
when that movie when they got
39:09
the money for that movie and 21 when the movie was
39:12
movie was released that's crazy that is crazy how
39:15
how how was maddie rich when he made uh straight out of brooklyn because
39:18
he was pretty young when he made straight out of brooklyn right yeah i
39:21
don't know the exact age but yeah okay so in 94
39:24
they also won well no they were nominated for best first feature picture at
39:30
the spirit awards and best cinematography which cinematography must have sucked
39:36
back then but um nope i'm gonna just let you have it.
39:44
So the movie was praised by you know people like roger ebert janet maslin and
39:51
Rolling Stone and Variety also praised it.
39:55
So, now that we got that out the way. Okay.
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Know i make jokes about this movie all the time at random time wait what is the movie about bro,
40:04
yeah that's yeah okay okay so look i done got ahead of my damn okay so menace
40:09
to society is about what a group of young black males growing up in la they
40:17
have to deal with selling drugs gang violence,
40:22
were they car thieves.
40:25
Police yeah yeah police brutality
40:29
just all things that a
40:32
young black male growing up in the inner city would have to contend with on
40:37
a day to day basis you got one main character old dog who family just like kind
40:46
of don't care and threw him to the wolves And you got the other character, Cain,
40:52
who's out there in the streets, but his grandma and grandpa is trying to keep
40:58
him on the straight and narrow,
41:00
so to speak. So they be in church every Sunday.
41:04
Right, right, right. So so that's like like the movie is just about. Remember that?
41:10
That's what old dog said when they walked out with shit. They was lecturing him.
41:14
It's like, man, yo, yo grandpa's be in church. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
41:18
yeah, that's right. Yeah, I know.
41:20
Yeah, yeah. We'll get into all of that. So basically, that's the movie in a
41:25
nutshell. It's just the adventures, if you want to call it that,
41:30
that these guys went through.
41:33
Drama, struggles, trials and tribulations, whatever you want to attribute to it.
41:37
But that's the movie. So go ahead, brother. Take it away.
41:41
So one of my problems with the movie now, I'll still watch it.
41:47
It's you know i'm i ain't about to lie i'll probably get 20 minutes into it
41:52
before i have to turn it off it's got some of the worst acting i've ever seen
41:56
in my life when you have a movie where mca is probably the best actor in the
42:01
movie we got a problem i'm sorry let me take that back,
42:06
charles s dutton sits alone and he only had about eight and a half minutes worth
42:10
right right of uh But although you and I weren't living like that,
42:16
we knew people who were in the streets like that, like just out there wiling.
42:23
And, you know, unfortunately, most of them have passed on.
42:27
But the acting in the movie was so bad.
42:32
Old Dog shopping around the tape from the store. Evidence.
42:37
Like it was his video, like he was trying to make it. Yeah. He was about to drop a mixtape. Yeah.
42:44
Yeah. Everything is good. Yeah, evidence.
42:47
Kane, after hearing the shots, his first instinct was,
42:53
stuff let's talk about how he was standing there straight up
42:57
and down like a roll with a 40 ounce
43:00
right literally right parallel right to
43:04
the floor right and when he heard the gunshot instead of just dropping it like
43:09
he slams it to the ground yeah where his fingerprints were left hold on bro
43:14
was either one of them 21 no yeah no so that's why they didn't want you in the damn store right.
43:24
Exactly neither one of you clowns old enough to drink and
43:27
yet y'all in the liquor store and you done open supposedly opened
43:31
a 40 and just drinking it in the store i mean
43:34
to the head right turned it up
43:37
right so crazy that part
43:40
jacking the dude in the drive-thru for the wait wait
43:43
though we can't skip past the murder
43:46
hell which one well at the
43:50
store so they get
43:53
into it with the shop owners the liquor store owners who are asian couple they're
43:59
being very disrespectful and the lady goes it was the lady right she said something
44:06
but he also said something at the counter yeah like i I feel sorry for.
44:09
No, that was him when he said it.
44:11
Because old dog went from.
44:14
I'm trying to describe this the best way I can. And for those who sitting out
44:18
here going, man, these dudes are too critical.
44:20
Y'all can kiss my ass. Oh, man.
44:24
Because I want y'all to hear me out. I want y'all to hear me out.
44:28
Like, why this movie? I want y'all to go back and watch it and go,
44:32
I see what he talking about. Well, you can still enjoy the movie and criticize.
44:37
I can criticize. Hell, Cain himself has criticized the acting in that movie.
44:42
But he goes, he pays for the beer. Right.
44:48
Hands to do whatever he gave him and then just walked away.
44:52
And then old dog is like, hey, why don't you give my homeboy his change? Yeah.
44:56
And the dude just drops like, I don't know, coins.
45:00
If it's out here for your mother. Okay.
45:03
You feel sorry for who and now you're gonna shoot him three times in the chest
45:07
yeah so so yeah you pull out your glizzy and you kill both the man the husband
45:13
and the wife and then you rob the place,
45:18
jackpot yeah they had to had the money in his in his sock yeah looking in the
45:22
register yeah his fingerprints was everywhere everywhere but they arrested kane
45:28
because of the beer bottle.
45:31
Fingerprints video which they took the tape which
45:34
that's what you was representing earlier but still it's
45:37
just like now you know how crazy you got to be to sit around
45:40
with four of your homeboys on the couch watching you
45:43
kill somebody right two people right and laugh about it how crazy that is talk
45:48
about how hard you are first of all what makes you hard that you just killed
45:52
two unarmed people and the sad thing was now and and again this is us speaking
45:58
from being grown and parents and grandparents now.
46:02
During that time, there was a lot of animosity in the Watts community. For sure.
46:07
For sure. For sure. The Korean shop owners and Black folk.
46:13
I mean, obviously, you know, Latasha Harlins and whatnot.
46:17
But I just personally thought, man, the acting, it just makes me laugh.
46:22
I don't want to talk like I hate the movie, but the acting is so bad to me now,
46:27
it's hard to get through it.
46:29
And I ain't even got to Stacey. I was about to say, man, we got to get into
46:33
some of our favorite scenes, though, when we talk about the acting.
46:36
Because I know which one that you hate.
46:38
And I got to get into the one that I hate.
46:41
Like the scene in the car where they coming up the alley, bumping DJ Quick. Mm-hmm.
46:47
And they talking about him pushing up on Jada, on Ronnie. Ronnie,
46:52
yeah. Just Sharif's response to it.
46:55
Stacey's response with that fake laugh and throwing his hands up.
46:58
On Life Without Parole, I don't care. You know, just...
47:04
I just, I don't know. The acting is fine. I know it sounds like I'm angry about
47:09
it, but it's just funny to me.
47:12
Which scene were you talking about with yours? You know which one that I hate, man. Your guy.
47:19
First, before we even get to the end.
47:22
But when he first goes to get, so Kane meets this girl, which that whole scene
47:28
at the barbecue was so terrible.
47:29
When he meets this girl at the barbecue and
47:33
all of his hand gestures yeah and it's
47:35
like man just get her number dude but uh
47:38
so he smashes
47:42
old girl claims to be pregnant he like
47:44
it ain't my baby she sends her cousin over
47:47
to Kane's house to confront her her cousin
47:51
like hey homie you come
47:54
out here man let me talk to you he pulled up his pants like 25 times
47:58
like he ready to scrap and i mean just some of the
48:01
worst acting you've ever seen but
48:05
fast forward that because now you know after kane whoops him he got to get some
48:09
get back so they're going to do spoiler alert for those who haven't seen it
48:14
if you haven't seen it i mean you know i'm sorry but spoiler alert so they go
48:19
to do the drive-by at the end to get some get-back on Kane.
48:25
Dude runs out the house it's probably what two three in the
48:28
afternoon something like that broad daylight let's just put it like
48:31
that it's broad daylight he runs
48:34
out the house no mask on but he's
48:38
looking around and tiptoeing like and i mean when you see it you'll understand
48:45
but he's looking back and forth and tiptoeing and it's just like dude go get
48:50
your ass in the car and you can hear the dude in the background said,
48:54
man, get your ass in the car.
48:55
It's just like, what are you? You look suspicious.
48:59
You look like you're about to go do something stupid.
49:02
Just go get in the car, dude.
49:04
So I got one for you. So when they get to the street and the guns come out and
49:10
then the screen fades to black and it comes back, my man went from two pistols
49:15
to two MAC-10s. He sure did.
49:17
He sure did. It was like a Tubi movie before Tubi even came out.
49:24
Hey, we might have to get into some Tooby movies eventually,
49:28
too. And I know a lot of them are hard to watch.
49:31
Man. I know. I know, bro. Man, I saw, I did see a clip on one where the dude was in the room.
49:37
He had on a t-shirt and they were arguing.
49:40
And the camera panned and he had on something else. And then when they got to
49:45
the living room, he had on the other shirt again.
49:48
I've caught, like, I forget, Siriana, Matt Damon and George Clooney.
49:54
He was in the bathroom tying his tie.
49:57
And his wife said something, and he stuck his head out, and he had on, like, a striped tie.
50:01
And he went back in, and then he came back out, and the tie was,
50:04
like, solid red. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.
50:07
I just remember catching that going, wait, wasn't that tie, like,
50:12
two or three different colors? Yep.
50:14
Yep. Yep. You are right. So I mean like And listen y'all.
50:19
Are products of the 90s all right
50:22
so around this time we got boys in
50:25
the hood coming out we got juice
50:29
we got minutes to society so we
50:32
were we were we were we were starved if that's a
50:36
proper term for some representation in
50:39
hollywood i mean because we'd have to go
50:42
all the way back to like spike lee movies do the
50:45
right thing and school days and all of that so we were
50:48
kind of starving for some representation so to
50:51
see these type of hood movies if that's what you want to
50:54
call them we were super excited right but as
50:58
we've gotten older we look back
51:01
and it just makes you go these movies
51:04
just weren't they good just like what what
51:07
was all the not not to diss the Hughes brothers not to diss John Singleton you
51:14
know what I'm saying it's just we just got to call a spade it's paid but i think
51:19
i think too what drew us to it obviously you talk about the representation but.
51:25
A lot of the things that they were going through in la we were
51:28
going through sure i mean sure we could relate to it for sure
51:30
yeah we were in indiana but we were for sure five minutes from chicago for sure
51:36
so we saw a lot of those things for sure for sure up so for sure and we could
51:42
take a character and relate them
51:44
to somebody we knew in the hood yeah yeah without a doubt Without a dog.
51:49
Yeah, you're right. Now that we're older, we look at it like,
51:51
oh, man, this was just so poorly.
51:54
Like, just like we loved old dog. Mm-hmm. Oh, man. He was so bad in that movie.
52:01
It really was. Oh. He really, really.
52:05
Dude. You shot a crackhead in broad daylight over a cheeseburger.
52:07
Over a cheeseburger. I was just about to say that.
52:11
Like, you shot a dude over a cheeseburger in broad daylight.
52:15
And nobody said anything. And all MCA said was stupid, man. Right. Right.
52:21
When Kane got shot, they bust up in the hospital. Get me an MFing doctor.
52:29
We're trying to go to jail.
52:36
I'm like, come on, man. You know, you can't act.
52:39
The whole thing was just like. It seems to me a lot of it was overacting.
52:45
There it wasn't it wasn't natural
52:49
that part like yeah old dog i mean uh lorence
52:52
tape from the city but i'm not saying they grew up rich because they didn't
52:56
right but they didn't grow up like that right you know they grew up but yeah
53:01
it just no you're you're you're right a lot of it was overacting a lot of the
53:05
scenes were over the top you know yes you'll be distraught about your homie being shot, whatever,
53:11
but you ain't going to run up in there like that. Like, man, knock it off.
53:15
Like, they, the whole movie, they were doing things like there wasn't a police in LA.
53:22
Like, they weren't worried about facing any type of consequences for their actions.
53:27
And I think that's the part that I'm just like, so ain't none of y'all worried about catching a case?
53:34
None of y'all? Like, come on, man. Y'all, I get that y'all young,
53:38
but I'm like, but y'all ain't that dumb. Like, come on now.
53:42
So we could talk about this another twenty five minutes. But what we want to
53:47
do is we're going to switch it up a little bit this week.
53:49
I'm going to hand over the closing monologue to my brother. Let him take it away.
53:56
Thank you, brother. I appreciate that. I'm going to try and be as brief as I possibly can.
54:03
And try not to ramble. I'm going to try and stay on topic and stay on point.
54:07
But I do have a tendency to get sidetracked as evidence.
54:11
But I want to talk about black on black crime.
54:15
And I know that this is something that aggravates you to the core.
54:21
It aggravates me. And hopefully when I'm done with this,
54:27
it'll shine a new perspective or give you guys a new perspective as it relates to crime statistics.
54:37
And why you should be just as annoyed when you hear someone talk about black on black crime.
54:46
So for a couple of definitions.
54:50
First, I want to talk about intraracial crime.
54:55
Intraracial crime happens when crimes are committed between two people of the same race. Intra.
55:06
Interracial crime is when crimes are committed between two people or more than
55:13
two people of a different race.
55:16
So keep that in mind going forward, intra and inter.
55:22
Now, approximately 82 percent of violent crime committed against white people
55:32
is by other white people.
55:36
But you never hear anyone talk about white-on-white crime. Why is that?
55:45
Conversely, 92% of violent crime committed against Black people is by other Black people.
55:55
To make a long story short, people commit crimes against the people in their proximity or vicinity.
56:06
It has little or nothing to do with race.
56:12
But I want to roll out a couple of statistics since we've always had that narrative
56:21
that blacks are violent.
56:24
So I want to talk about some more violent crimes and break it down by race.
56:30
And I'm going to start with serial killers.
56:32
Pay attention to these numbers now. 82 percent, 82 percent of American serial killers are white.
56:45
Approximately 15 percent of American serial killers are black.
56:54
Know how many immigrants, quote unquote, are serial killers?
56:59
2.5% of American serial killers are Hispanic.
57:07
Between 52 and 54% of mass shootings are perpetrated by white men.
57:18
Let me say that again.
57:20
52 to 54% of mass shootings are perpetrated by white men.
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I think we need to stop the whole Blacks are violent conversation.
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Now, here are some things when we talk about intraracial crime.
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Because there is a statistic that supports that blacks are more violent against
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whites when you just look at the last 10 years.
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But here's the thing. They include assault,
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Robbery Things like that
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It's not just blacks killing whites If you
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rob someone They consider that a
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violent crime So there's your uptick In
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why the data Will support that blacks are
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more violent In recent years Not so much a racial theme More of a socioeconomic
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I'm robbing you Because I don't have Not making excuses Stealing is wrong regardless
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But when you look at it throughout history.
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At it throughout history. Whites are way more violent towards black people or
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any other racial group for that matter. And it's not even close.
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When you consider the Tulsa massacre,
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when you consider Rosewood, when you consider Bloody Sunday,
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these are all massive violent events perpetrated by white men against black
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people, and most of it just because we were existing.
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There is no rhyme, reason, or cause for the violence.
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So it's safe to conclude that white people, based on the data,
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are more violent and have committed the most violent crimes in U.S.
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History. period.
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Anything you want to add to that, brother? Not at all.
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