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- 0:05Speaker 1: A twenty nine year old new mother goes missing. We
- 0:10Speaker 1: now know Kelsey Barrett was murdered in the last hours.
- 0:15Speaker 1: A stunning development in the case. The mistress of her
- 0:20Speaker 1: long time fiance has had her sentence vacated. What does
- 0:26Speaker 1: it all mean? How did the whole thing start? Listen?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is the last known time Kelsey Barrett was seen
- 0:40Speaker 1: in public. It was at this Safeway store where she
- 0:43Speaker 1: was captured by the store's security cameras. Cheryl Barrett says
- 0:47Speaker 1: she spoke with Kelsey by phone that day twice. What
- 0:51Speaker 1: did you talk about that day? Oh, it was just
- 0:53Speaker 1: small things, And initially she needed a recipe. Based on
- 0:56Speaker 1: that conversation, there was nothing to make you believe there
- 0:59Speaker 1: is anything wrong exactly. Yeah, her voice was fine, she
- 1:03Speaker 1: was Yeah, it was a normal day for her, a
- 1:06Speaker 1: recipe for a meal that Kelsey Barrett was cooking that
- 1:10Speaker 1: night for her a long time fiance. That fiance patrick frazy.
- 1:18Speaker 1: So why would she be cooking a meal for her
- 1:20Speaker 1: fiance that not along with their little baby girl and
- 1:24Speaker 1: then suddenly just bug out and disappear. She didn't. You
- 1:29Speaker 1: were just hearing our friend Joe Fryer at the Today
- 1:31Speaker 1: Show take a listen to this. Her brother traveled to
- 1:34Speaker 1: Colorado to help find her, posting. After arriving at Kelsey's
- 1:38Speaker 1: house and combing through her things, we know one thing
- 1:41Speaker 1: is certain. Kelsey did not pack to go anywhere. All
- 1:44Speaker 1: luggage is here, her purse is all that seems to
- 1:47Speaker 1: have gone. Barrett's cars are still in Colorado, and police
- 1:51Speaker 1: tell me they have searched her home for clues and
- 1:53Speaker 1: are working closely with her family to learn more about her,
- 1:56Speaker 1: including her life on social media and anyone she's been
- 2:00Speaker 1: in contact with. You were just hearing our friend Mariah
- 2:04Speaker 1: Villereale at CBS News joining me an all star panel
- 2:07Speaker 1: to break it down and put it back together again
- 2:09Speaker 1: in the last hours. A bombshell in the case of
- 2:13Speaker 1: Kelsey Barrett, a beautiful young mom we now know to
- 2:17Speaker 1: be dead, even though her body has never been found.
- 2:21Speaker 1: With me. Criminal defense attorney renowned who practices throughout the
- 2:25Speaker 1: country in federal court, Ken Belkin. Doctor Bethany Marshall, Psychoalence
- 2:31Speaker 1: to the Stars, joining us out of la star of
- 2:33Speaker 1: a new series, Bling Empire on Netflix, and you can
- 2:38Speaker 1: find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Professor Forensics
- 2:42Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on
- 2:46Speaker 1: Amazon and star of a new series on True Crime
- 2:49Speaker 1: Network Poisonous Liaison's Death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan. But first
- 2:55Speaker 1: two special guests joining us from KKTV Eleven Ashley Franco. Ashley,
- 3:00Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. When the
- 3:04Speaker 1: brother first went into the home where Kelsey Barrett lived
- 3:08Speaker 1: with her daughter, her little baby girl, of course, the fiance,
- 3:12Speaker 1: Patrick Frasie, did not live in the condo with her.
- 3:16Speaker 1: He really didn't see anything at all wrong, did he,
- 3:20Speaker 1: Ashley right, He went in there and he didn't see
- 3:23Speaker 1: a thing out of place, and that was a little
- 3:26Speaker 1: bit shocking to them. Obviously, her purse and her keys
- 3:28Speaker 1: weren't there, but everything else seemed to be in place.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Only now in a retrospect do we realize a horrible
- 3:37Speaker 1: and bloody crime scene had gotten the quote woman's touch.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Take a listen to a neighbor who could shed light
- 3:46Speaker 1: on what helped what happened with Kelsey. Take a listen
- 3:50Speaker 1: to our friend Sam Kramer at ko AA. What do
- 3:53Speaker 1: you remember seeing Thanksgiving day just up the road here?
- 3:56Speaker 1: I looked up there and there was both red pickups
- 3:59Speaker 1: up there Thanksgiving Day and that was from about twelve
- 4:02Speaker 1: thirty to one. She says she never saw anybody, but
- 4:05Speaker 1: the information aligns with what Frasey told police Thereugh his attorney,
- 4:09Speaker 1: saying he picked up their daughter sometime Thanksgiving Day. The
- 4:13Speaker 1: Safeway surveillance video includes a twelve oh five time stamp,
- 4:17Speaker 1: meaning the truck would have arrived shortly thereafter. The other
- 4:20Speaker 1: two cars were parked with the vehicles facing the apartment,
- 4:25Speaker 1: but his was parked sideways behind them. The neighbor says
- 4:29Speaker 1: it's the same chunk she's seen the last two years
- 4:31Speaker 1: driven by a man picking up and dropping off of baby.
- 4:35Speaker 1: And when I showed her video of Phrasie's truck towed
- 4:37Speaker 1: off his property Friday, she says, it looks the same.
- 4:41Speaker 1: So now we're understanding Patrick phrase. If Yancey's truck had
- 4:46Speaker 1: her Kelsey Barrett basically blocked in like a tea bone
- 4:49Speaker 1: in that condo. When I said the condo got the
- 4:53Speaker 1: woman's touch, this is what I mean. Take a listen
- 4:56Speaker 1: to Jennifer meccles at nineties Denver. Chrystal Lee has to
- 5:00Speaker 1: find that she and the defendant, Patrick Frazy had a
- 5:02Speaker 1: long and complicated relationship. She said Patrick killed Kelsey, the
- 5:06Speaker 1: mother of his child, with a baseball bat, and that
- 5:08Speaker 1: Crystal Lee has helped clean up the crime scene. Cristel
- 5:12Speaker 1: pleaded guilty to tampering with evidence in this case, and
- 5:15Speaker 1: this morning, Cristel told the jury that the terms of
- 5:17Speaker 1: her plea deal were for her to tell the truth.
- 5:20Speaker 1: She said that has not been easy back when this
- 5:22Speaker 1: first started and now as she testifies. But when prosecutors
- 5:25Speaker 1: asked her why she decided to tell the truth, Cristel
- 5:28Speaker 1: answered this quote, I couldn't have lived with what I knew,
- 5:31Speaker 1: and Kelsey's family deserves to know what happened. Straight out
- 5:35Speaker 1: to Ashley Franco KKTV eleven News, Colorado Springs. Ashley, what
- 5:41Speaker 1: now do we know happened in kelsey barris condo with
- 5:46Speaker 1: her baby nearby? Well, we were told that Thanksgiving Day
- 5:50Speaker 1: that Patrick Frazy had gone in and blindfolded Kelsey, had
- 5:56Speaker 1: candles sitting out, that we're all lit as some sort
- 5:59Speaker 1: of a game, perhaps to maybe spice up their romance life.
- 6:03Speaker 1: And we were told by Chrystal Lee that Patrick Crazy
- 6:07Speaker 1: killed Kelsey with a baseball bat and beat her multiple
- 6:10Speaker 1: times with their one year old sitting in the room
- 6:13Speaker 1: right next door. So let me understand this. Ashley Franco KKTV,
- 6:19Speaker 1: the mistress. I believe it's a rodeo queen. Crystal Kenny,
- 6:27Speaker 1: single mom. She learns from her boyfriend, her lover, Patrick Frazy,
- 6:33Speaker 1: who was engaged Kelsey Barrett, the mother of his daughter,
- 6:38Speaker 1: that he Patrick Frazy convinces Kelsey so Thanksgiving, when she's
- 6:44Speaker 1: in the middle of cooking dinner for him to let
- 6:47Speaker 1: herself be blindfolded to smell different candles, and while she's blindfolded,
- 6:53Speaker 1: he beats her in the head with a baseball bat.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Is that right? That's correct? Yes, take a listen to
- 6:59Speaker 1: ABC Denver seven. Prosecutors say Phrasie blindfolded Kelsey to smell
- 7:04Speaker 1: candles and guess the scent and then beat her to
- 7:07Speaker 1: death with a baseball bat and burned her body. Prosecutors
- 7:10Speaker 1: told the jury this is a case of a cold,
- 7:12Speaker 1: calculated manipulator, and while showing a photo of Frasey called
- 7:16Speaker 1: him the face of a killer. We learned the trial
- 7:18Speaker 1: hinges on cell phone records, trace amounts of blood, evidence
- 7:21Speaker 1: and testimony from Idaho nurse Crystal Lee Kenny without a body.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Crystal is the state's star witness. She told investigators she
- 7:28Speaker 1: tried to kill Kelsey three times at Patrick's request, but
- 7:31Speaker 1: couldn't go through with it. She says that's when Frasey
- 7:33Speaker 1: took matters into his own hands, and she drove down
- 7:35Speaker 1: from Idaho to clean up a bloody mess in Kelsey's apartment.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Dodger Bethany Marshall, what person in their right mind would
- 7:46Speaker 1: drive from out of state to come clean up a
- 7:50Speaker 1: bloody martyr, saying, Nancy, I don't even know where to
- 7:54Speaker 1: begin with this. I mean, the easy answer would be
- 7:58Speaker 1: hate was brainwash, bite him, she would love sick. But
- 8:02Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I think that she had
- 8:05Speaker 1: as much secret and malice sports the victims as her
- 8:11Speaker 1: boyfriend did. They both hated this one together. And why
- 8:15Speaker 1: the victim was beautiful, She had a child, she had
- 8:19Speaker 1: her whole life ahead her, you know, Nancy, Sometimes envy
- 8:23Speaker 1: plays such a primary role in these kinds of crimes,
- 8:28Speaker 1: when one woman sees another who seemingly had it all
- 8:32Speaker 1: and they just want to blot that woman off the
- 8:36Speaker 1: face of the earth because they cannot stand at that
- 8:38Speaker 1: person's around. That's the only thing I can think of. Otherwise,
- 8:42Speaker 1: why would a woman seen up a bloody crime scene.
- 8:47Speaker 1: I mean, as part of that, Chelsea's tooth was found.
- 8:54Speaker 1: He beat her so badly about the face of the
- 8:57Speaker 1: head with a baseball bat. Why else is blindfold with
- 9:01Speaker 1: the baby in the next room. Her teeth flew out
- 9:04Speaker 1: of her head, and this woman, Crystal Kenny, leaves her
- 9:10Speaker 1: own family to come clean up the crime scene. I mean,
- 9:14Speaker 1: Ken Belkin, you're the famous criminal defense attorney. Explain to
- 9:19Speaker 1: me how in the world you would explain that away
- 9:22Speaker 1: to a jury. And now in the last hours we
- 9:25Speaker 1: understand Ashley Franco KKTV, is it true that Crystal Kenny,
- 9:32Speaker 1: the rodeo queen that cleaned up a crime scene, backed
- 9:36Speaker 1: out of her deal? Right? Colorado Court of Appeals has
- 9:39Speaker 1: ruled that they would like her sentence to be vacated
- 9:42Speaker 1: and have her possibly resentence crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
- 9:55Speaker 1: we are talking about the brutal murder of a twenty
- 9:59Speaker 1: nine year old mother of one. She was no edge
- 10:02Speaker 1: at guys, As I recall Ashley Franco, she had a
- 10:05Speaker 1: great job, she was a trained pilot. She bought her
- 10:10Speaker 1: condo all on her own, no help from the fiance.
- 10:14Speaker 1: I might add and was raising her child on her
- 10:17Speaker 1: own and doing a really good job at it. So
- 10:22Speaker 1: explain to me, ken Belkin, what you could possibly say
- 10:26Speaker 1: to defend the mistress Crystal Kenney, who literally is a
- 10:32Speaker 1: rodeo pageant queen who three times says she backed out
- 10:39Speaker 1: of killing Kelsey. She knew Kelsey was going to be killed.
- 10:43Speaker 1: She could have saved her life, but she didn't. Well,
- 10:47Speaker 1: she was obviously operating under extreme arrest at the beast
- 10:52Speaker 1: of her lover at the time. And you know clearly
- 10:55Speaker 1: she loved this one. And Kim Belkin objection, dear s,
- 11:03Speaker 1: in other words, coercion. Isn't it true that under the
- 11:08Speaker 1: law for you to claim coercion as a defense, in
- 11:12Speaker 1: other words, you admit you did it, but you were
- 11:15Speaker 1: coerced forced to do it, you have to be in
- 11:18Speaker 1: fear of your own life or the life of another
- 11:21Speaker 1: at the moment you act. Isn't that true, Ken Belkin? Well,
- 11:25Speaker 1: you could argue that maybe she was if her lover
- 11:27Speaker 1: was going to she was in a different state, she
- 11:29Speaker 1: was in Idaho. How could she be a phrase she's
- 11:32Speaker 1: about to take a bullet to the head. She was
- 11:34Speaker 1: nowhere near the defendant, or she was certainly operating under
- 11:38Speaker 1: some form of diminished capacity. Oh, I see, your defense
- 11:41Speaker 1: is shifting. It was coercion. But since I am explained
- 11:46Speaker 1: the law of coercion, now it's what did you say
- 11:50Speaker 1: mental Did you say mental defense? Oh? Yeah, So she
- 11:54Speaker 1: was insane for the moments that she drove to Idaho,
- 11:57Speaker 1: cleaned up the crime scene, and then went home. And oh,
- 11:59Speaker 1: by the way, remember to get rid of Kelsey's cell
- 12:03Speaker 1: phone along the way. Diminish capacity. And as soon as
- 12:05Speaker 1: you got back home, she came to well, certainly not
- 12:08Speaker 1: the actions of the same person, right, Nancy. Look, listen,
- 12:13Speaker 1: Kim Belkin. You're a great lawyer. You've got a great reputation.
- 12:17Speaker 1: You practice some federal courts all around the country, and
- 12:21Speaker 1: I know I'm putting you on the hot seat where
- 12:24Speaker 1: there's really not a good defense in guys. That's why,
- 12:28Speaker 1: even though I would never do it myself, that's why
- 12:29Speaker 1: it must be hard to be a defense lawyer, because
- 12:31Speaker 1: you're stuck with these horrible facts and somehow you've got
- 12:35Speaker 1: to make a silk purse out of a sal's ear.
- 12:38Speaker 1: That's what it boils down to sometimes. So how in
- 12:41Speaker 1: the hey, before I circle back to beat up poor
- 12:44Speaker 1: Kim Belkin for a moment, Ashley Franco, what do you
- 12:47Speaker 1: mean the Rodeo queen sentence has been vacated? So the
- 12:54Speaker 1: Colorado Court of Appeals. Her attorney went to the Colorado
- 12:58Speaker 1: Court of Appeals and said, you think that they illegally
- 13:02Speaker 1: sentenced our client? And the Colorado Court of Appeal said,
- 13:05Speaker 1: after reviewing everything, we believe that the district court erroneously
- 13:09Speaker 1: sentenced to Kenny outside of the maximum term. And so
- 13:13Speaker 1: we're vakating down a little bit, just a little bit.
- 13:18Speaker 1: What So they said that they believe the district court
- 13:23Speaker 1: erroneously sentenced Kenny outside of the maximum term, and they
- 13:28Speaker 1: want her sentenced to be vacated and they want her
- 13:31Speaker 1: to be resentenced. Well, didn't her defense attorney go along? Right?
- 13:36Speaker 1: So the defense attorney went along with the plea and
- 13:39Speaker 1: after sentencing just file this complaint that they sentenced her wrong.
- 13:46Speaker 1: But according to the defense attorney and I just talked
- 13:49Speaker 1: to where she was given the plea paperwork late at
- 13:53Speaker 1: night and then the next morning, they just went along
- 13:55Speaker 1: with with everything. So that was the attorney just quote
- 14:00Speaker 1: went along right. There was nothing in court to you know,
- 14:06Speaker 1: object the plea agreement. I was sitting right there in court.
- 14:09Speaker 1: There was nothing at the time that anyone had a
- 14:12Speaker 1: problem with. So what was the sentence, Ashley Franco, This
- 14:15Speaker 1: woman who has known about the murder plot for a
- 14:19Speaker 1: long time, backed out of murdering Kelsey herself three times,
- 14:24Speaker 1: went and cleaned up a bloody crime, saying hid evidence
- 14:27Speaker 1: from police, lied about it. What was her sentence? She
- 14:33Speaker 1: would sentence to three years in prison as she pleaded
- 14:35Speaker 1: guilty to a tampering with evidence charge in exchange for
- 14:39Speaker 1: information about Kelsey's death. So if you are convicted of tampering,
- 14:46Speaker 1: what is the appropriate sentence Ashley? In Colorado? The maximum
- 14:50Speaker 1: sentence is eighteen months. How many charges did she have
- 14:55Speaker 1: of tampering? She pled guilty to just one charge of
- 14:57Speaker 1: tampering with evidence? How many was she charged? How many
- 15:02Speaker 1: counts does she charged with? They didn't. They didn't give
- 15:06Speaker 1: her anything else but that one charge. In the DA's
- 15:09Speaker 1: office said only had said on one occasion that she
- 15:12Speaker 1: could be charged with several charges of tampering with evidence.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Did never give a number, but that's what that's what
- 15:18Speaker 1: he had said. Okay, Ken Belkin, criminal defense attorney, you
- 15:23Speaker 1: got me over a Barrel. I know when something's wrong,
- 15:29Speaker 1: and this plea deal is wrong. You can't sentence somebody
- 15:33Speaker 1: to a term greater than is allowed by the law.
- 15:37Speaker 1: It was the prosecutor's decision to let her plead guilty
- 15:41Speaker 1: on a much lesser charged. I think she should have
- 15:43Speaker 1: been charged with conspiracy to commit murder myself. But according
- 15:48Speaker 1: to Ashley Franco, they led her plead guilty to one
- 15:51Speaker 1: tampering with evidence charge. The only sentence for that maximum
- 15:56Speaker 1: eighteen months, according to Ashley Franco, and they sentence her
- 15:59Speaker 1: to three years. Oh look, this is the basic Okay. Here,
- 16:05Speaker 1: a conviction comes in two parts, the plea and the sentence.
- 16:09Speaker 1: If it's a plea deal, that's up to the DA's
- 16:11Speaker 1: office the prostitutor to offer a deal, but it is
- 16:14Speaker 1: up to the judge to sentence the individual. And in
- 16:18Speaker 1: every plea deal, the the plea deal is given in
- 16:21Speaker 1: consideration of a court commitment to a certain sentence. Now Here,
- 16:25Speaker 1: the maximum sentence on this particular charge was eighteen months,
- 16:29Speaker 1: but in certain circumstances where there are aggravating factors, you
- 16:34Speaker 1: could be sentenced to up to three years on this charge. Now,
- 16:38Speaker 1: she took the pretty one day and it was a
- 16:40Speaker 1: journe for sentensing, and on the sentencing date, the judge
- 16:43Speaker 1: felt that there were aggravating factors and sentenced her to
- 16:46Speaker 1: three years. But you can't do that. There's Supreme Court
- 16:51Speaker 1: precedent that says you cannot sentence someone on aggravating factors
- 16:55Speaker 1: on a plea deal unless those aggravating factors are are
- 17:00Speaker 1: proven beyond a reasonable doubt to the trier of fact,
- 17:03Speaker 1: which would mean a jury. And they were not in
- 17:05Speaker 1: this case. So the court was wrong in sentencing her,
- 17:09Speaker 1: and not only that. Kim Belkan criminal defense attorney. You
- 17:12Speaker 1: can find him at Belkin law dot com. Those aggravating
- 17:16Speaker 1: circumstances must be enunciated by the court or by the
- 17:20Speaker 1: prosecution in the charges, similar to can when the state
- 17:27Speaker 1: decides to seek the death penalty in a murder case
- 17:30Speaker 1: in every jurisdiction in our great and wonderful country, to
- 17:35Speaker 1: seek the death penalty, you must very specifically lay out
- 17:39Speaker 1: aggravating circumstances on which you are relying to seek the
- 17:44Speaker 1: death penalty. Why is this murder different from every other murder?
- 17:48Speaker 1: Why is this person being singled out for the death
- 17:50Speaker 1: penalty when that person is not you must enunciate it clearly,
- 17:54Speaker 1: and then in front of a jury you must prove
- 17:57Speaker 1: those specific aggravated circumstances. That was not done here. So,
- 18:05Speaker 1: after all this investigation, after the months and months of
- 18:10Speaker 1: hard work by detectives, we have Crystal Kenny, Rodeo Queen,
- 18:15Speaker 1: thirty three years old. Sentence is thrown out right out
- 18:22Speaker 1: the window. Can you imagine how Kelsey Barres's family is
- 18:28Speaker 1: feeling today? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Guys, we were
- 18:43Speaker 1: talking about the death, the murder of a young mom.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Her daughter will be raised, never having Mommy knowing that
- 18:50Speaker 1: she the daughter sat in the next room was a
- 18:54Speaker 1: baby as her mother was brutally murdered. And then in
- 18:58Speaker 1: flounces the mistress, the Rodeo queane to clean up the mass,
- 19:04Speaker 1: and boy did she clean it up well. But people
- 19:07Speaker 1: came into the home, they thought it looked neat and undisturbed.
- 19:10Speaker 1: They had no idea it had what's been sprayed with
- 19:15Speaker 1: Kelsey's blood. Take a listen to this, holding back tears,
- 19:21Speaker 1: she detailed a long relationship with Patrick Frazie, at one
- 19:25Speaker 1: point getting pregnant by him. I guess you are a
- 19:28Speaker 1: baby killer or not? She claimed, Frazie told her. Lee
- 19:32Speaker 1: said she then got an abortion and prepared divorce papers
- 19:36Speaker 1: in order to be with Frasie. Later, she learned he
- 19:40Speaker 1: already had a daughter with another woman, Kelsey Beareth. Lee
- 19:45Speaker 1: said that Frasie claimed that daughter was being abused by Beareth.
- 19:50Speaker 1: He wanted her not to be a problem anymore. He
- 19:53Speaker 1: wanted her dead. Lee told the court Frasie had her
- 19:56Speaker 1: bring a poisoned Starbucks drink to Beareth, but she didn't
- 20:00Speaker 1: taint the drink. Next, Lee said, Frazy wanted her to
- 20:04Speaker 1: kill Barrett using a pipe, then another time with the bat,
- 20:08Speaker 1: but each time she backed out. And now this woman
- 20:13Speaker 1: has somehow slithered out of a three year sentence behind
- 20:18Speaker 1: bars after all that. What I don't understand, Ashley Franco
- 20:22Speaker 1: joining me KKTV eleven. Actually, you've been on the case
- 20:25Speaker 1: from the very beginning, you've been in court. Why they
- 20:28Speaker 1: gave her such a sweet They'll just start with right
- 20:30Speaker 1: when you talked to the Districh attorney about this multiple times,
- 20:33Speaker 1: and you'll hear him say after Patrick Crazy sentence that
- 20:35Speaker 1: they made a deal with the devil, but they had
- 20:39Speaker 1: to get information on Kelsey Barrett's death and her at
- 20:43Speaker 1: that time disappearance. They had no idea what had happened
- 20:46Speaker 1: to her until Crystal Lee Kenny had come forward and
- 20:50Speaker 1: put out this whole story, this whole matter plan by
- 20:53Speaker 1: Patrick crazy. They needed all of her facts in order
- 20:59Speaker 1: to put Patrick away for life, and that was the
- 21:01Speaker 1: only way she was the only way they could do that.
- 21:04Speaker 1: M I don't know about that. True. Sometimes, Ashley Franco,
- 21:11Speaker 1: you got to go to hell to get the witness
- 21:14Speaker 1: to put the devil in jail. But I don't know
- 21:18Speaker 1: if it was that easy in this case. Let's go
- 21:20Speaker 1: to forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan, what did we learn
- 21:26Speaker 1: at the crime saying Joe Scott, Oh my god. Okay,
- 21:32Speaker 1: let me break this down for you. People are familiar
- 21:34Speaker 1: with I'm masked. Okay, poor Jack can hardly take it
- 21:40Speaker 1: in go. People are familiar with a reagent that we
- 21:46Speaker 1: use in forensic science called luminol. Luminal is a very
- 21:49Speaker 1: old substance. But everybody knows about luminal. Well, it's a
- 21:54Speaker 1: reagent that actually and that lights up blood. There iron
- 22:02Speaker 1: in our blood. Well, now there's a newer reagent that's
- 22:05Speaker 1: based on the same molecule called blue star. Well, they
- 22:07Speaker 1: applied blue Star in Kelsey's apartment, Nancy, and it is
- 22:11Speaker 1: mind blowing what they found because, as you stated earlier,
- 22:14Speaker 1: they walked in, it looked like Circle suite. You know,
- 22:16Speaker 1: it was Christine, It was clean. But Nancy, I'm just
- 22:19Speaker 1: reading over this right now. They found They found blood
- 22:23Speaker 1: around the base of the toilet. They found it on
- 22:26Speaker 1: the walls, they found it, they found it in the tub,
- 22:30Speaker 1: they found it on the sink, they found it everywhere
- 22:34Speaker 1: after applying this blue Star reagent. Even the mother, Kelsey's
- 22:37Speaker 1: mother come in and said, you know what's missing out
- 22:39Speaker 1: of the photograph. The rug that used to surround the toilet.
- 22:43Speaker 1: It's gone. It's completely gone. It's been done away with
- 22:47Speaker 1: because she always kept a rug in the bathroom, you know,
- 22:50Speaker 1: blood out Alley, Wait a minute, My point is we
- 22:56Speaker 1: didn't need the Rodeo Queen. Remember Joe Scott Morgan and
- 23:00Speaker 1: the recent Connecticut Missing Mama five. There was such a
- 23:04Speaker 1: vast quantity of blood found at the crime scene. Of course,
- 23:07Speaker 1: there had been a primitive cleanup that a medical examiner
- 23:12Speaker 1: would testify there was so much a blood the person
- 23:16Speaker 1: Jennifer had to be dead because of so much blood
- 23:20Speaker 1: had been seeped out of her body. Same thing here.
- 23:24Speaker 1: I don't need the Rodeo Queen to tell me what happened.
- 23:27Speaker 1: I can look at the crime scene findings by forensics,
- 23:31Speaker 1: and I know Kelsey Barth is dead because of the
- 23:34Speaker 1: quantity of blood and the clean up. Somebody came in
- 23:39Speaker 1: after all that blood and cleaned it up. And I
- 23:42Speaker 1: know who was there. The neighbor tells me Patrick Frazie
- 23:47Speaker 1: was there, and cell phone records tell me the Rodeo Queen,
- 23:52Speaker 1: mistress Crystal Kenney, came from Idaho to that location that day.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Why do I need her testimony? I would put those
- 24:04Speaker 1: two wet cats in a barrel, try him at the
- 24:06Speaker 1: same time and see what the jury said. We didn't
- 24:09Speaker 1: need her to start with. Joe Scott finished showing me
- 24:12Speaker 1: about the crime scene. All of this could have been
- 24:14Speaker 1: evidence in a trial against the Rodeo Queen, but no,
- 24:17Speaker 1: they take the easy way out and got a plea
- 24:20Speaker 1: go ahead. Yeah they did. And I think you know,
- 24:23Speaker 1: as as was mentioned just a few moments ago by
- 24:26Speaker 1: a reporter, the uh, they did need this key because
- 24:30Speaker 1: right now we don't have a body. Well, we do
- 24:32Speaker 1: have is a lot of blood at the sea they
- 24:36Speaker 1: could manage that blood to Kelsey Barns. They're trying to
- 24:41Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, unlike the
- 24:43Speaker 1: case that you previously mentioned up in yes right, miss Dulos,
- 24:49Speaker 1: we didn't have a body with that. There is a body.
- 24:51Speaker 1: There's Kelsey's body and let me Kelsey's body. Well, we
- 24:55Speaker 1: do in a manner because this is kind of reflected
- 24:58Speaker 1: in what they believe happened. According to that the blood
- 25:01Speaker 1: all over the stuffed animals. Animals were covered in blood.
- 25:07Speaker 1: Kelsey is dead. With all that blood, we can establish that,
- 25:11Speaker 1: and we know who was with her last Bam, go ahead.
- 25:15Speaker 1: And there's evidence that cleaning supplies were used. We had
- 25:19Speaker 1: blood that was present on bleach bottles and also on
- 25:22Speaker 1: a swiffer, you know, a wet mop. But what we
- 25:26Speaker 1: came to find out through you know what the police
- 25:29Speaker 1: have put together Kelsey's body and this gives you an
- 25:31Speaker 1: idea how small she is. Allegedly, well not allegedly now known.
- 25:37Speaker 1: She was placed into a black nylon toade taken to
- 25:42Speaker 1: this person's ranch and he used a tractor to actually
- 25:47Speaker 1: put her body in the toad on top of a
- 25:49Speaker 1: bail of hay to kind of store it until he
- 25:51Speaker 1: could decide what he wanted to do with it. And
- 25:53Speaker 1: at the end of the day he took all those items.
- 25:55Speaker 1: I remember we were talking about the missing missing items
- 25:58Speaker 1: that she that were kind of connected to her. Everything
- 26:02Speaker 1: went into a hundred gallon allegedly hundred gallon horse trough
- 26:07Speaker 1: and there was a mix, a mixed nancy of accelerance
- 26:11Speaker 1: things like motor oil, gasoline, diesel, all this stuff and
- 26:14Speaker 1: everything was set on fire at that moment time to
- 26:17Speaker 1: make her essentially vanished, go into thin air. And I'd
- 26:21Speaker 1: like to point out and correct me if I'm wrong,
- 26:23Speaker 1: ask you Franco actually joining us from KKDB. Eleven witnesses
- 26:28Speaker 1: saw Patrick Frazy the kill our fiance, guarding over a
- 26:35Speaker 1: huge fire on his property in the days that followed
- 26:40Speaker 1: Keltzy's a murder? Isn't that true? Yes, that's absolutely true.
- 26:44Speaker 1: There were several neighbors who said that they saw that fire.
- 26:46Speaker 1: And Nancy, if I can just interject, go ahead one
- 26:49Speaker 1: more Yeah, and you and I have covered so many
- 26:52Speaker 1: of these cases where people would attempt to use heat
- 26:55Speaker 1: in order to dispose of bodies. One thing that the
- 26:58Speaker 1: public might not understand, and this is not something where
- 27:01Speaker 1: you can just apply gasoline and the body just vanishes.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Just as was just spoken. It requires tending. It requires
- 27:09Speaker 1: kind of a constant fueling in order to make a
- 27:12Speaker 1: body eventually rendered down and still at some point in time.
- 27:16Speaker 1: You might if you do a thorough search of the scene,
- 27:18Speaker 1: find things like chips of bone. But it's a very,
- 27:21Speaker 1: very labor intensive task in order to facilitate that, And
- 27:25Speaker 1: that's what Phrasy was about at the scene tendingness fire
- 27:39Speaker 1: climb stories with Nancy Grace Guys in the last hours.
- 27:45Speaker 1: A stunning below to the victims family and for the
- 27:49Speaker 1: state in the death of twenty nine year old mom
- 27:52Speaker 1: of one Kelsey Barret, who's brutally murdered by her killer fiance,
- 27:56Speaker 1: Patrick Frazy. His mistress, who part in the cleanup and
- 28:01Speaker 1: the planning of the murder, got a sweetheart deal just
- 28:04Speaker 1: three years for tampering with evidence. And guess what she
- 28:09Speaker 1: tricked the state. She has now vacated that sentence and
- 28:14Speaker 1: she'll serve even less time for those of you just
- 28:18Speaker 1: joining us to actually Franco bring us up to date
- 28:21Speaker 1: with the vacated sentence of Rodeo Queen Crystal Kenney. So
- 28:25Speaker 1: just recently in Colorado Corn of Appeals had ruled that
- 28:30Speaker 1: the district court erroneously sentenced Kenny outside of the maximum term,
- 28:35Speaker 1: and they decided that they wanted her sentence to be
- 28:39Speaker 1: thrown out and they wanted the Tyler County judge to
- 28:42Speaker 1: resentence her, so the max would be eighteen months. I
- 28:46Speaker 1: guess Ken Belkin with me, a veteran trial lawyer criminal
- 28:50Speaker 1: defense attorney joining us. You can find him at Belkin
- 28:53Speaker 1: Law dot com. Ken, based on the forensics evidence and
- 28:59Speaker 1: there is more, by the way, which I'm sure you're
- 29:01Speaker 1: familiar with, I believe the state could have proven this
- 29:05Speaker 1: case and tried both of them for murder. What do
- 29:10Speaker 1: you think? I mean? I think they could have prosecuted
- 29:14Speaker 1: them for it. But the fact of the matter is
- 29:16Speaker 1: most of that evidence is circumstantial, and what they really
- 29:19Speaker 1: needed with some direct evidence, and that is what Miss
- 29:22Speaker 1: Kenny's testimony provided, well, direct evidence. Let me ask you
- 29:27Speaker 1: a question, Ken, because what I learned getting my JD
- 29:31Speaker 1: at Mercer and my LLM and criminal constitutional law at
- 29:35Speaker 1: NYU and practicing criminal law my entire career is that
- 29:40Speaker 1: the judge actually instructs the jury verbatim from the law
- 29:46Speaker 1: that circumstantial evidence has an equal weight as direct evidence.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Isn't that true? Of course, because the way you said it,
- 29:56Speaker 1: it could mislead a listener to thing that somehow, quote,
- 30:00Speaker 1: just a circumstantial case is somehow inferior to a case
- 30:04Speaker 1: that has direct evidence. But that's certainly not true, is it.
- 30:07Speaker 1: But you know as a prosecutor that a defense attorney
- 30:10Speaker 1: is going to jump all over a case that's only
- 30:12Speaker 1: brought the circumstantial evidence, going to jump every any case, Milkin,
- 30:17Speaker 1: that's a good defense attorney mill anyway. But you know
- 30:20Speaker 1: that testimony really is the nail in the coffin that
- 30:24Speaker 1: gets them to that conviction. But Ken, based on the
- 30:27Speaker 1: forensics alone and the fact that three times she Crystal
- 30:33Speaker 1: Kenny agree to kill Kelsey Barrett and then threw away
- 30:38Speaker 1: Kelsey's cell phone, made it look as if Kelsey had
- 30:42Speaker 1: traveled out of state to get away from her responsibilities,
- 30:46Speaker 1: cleaned up a crime scene, destroyed evidence, and stood by
- 30:50Speaker 1: while Phrasie burned evidence. It's so obvious to me she
- 30:56Speaker 1: should have been tried for murder along with Patrick frazy
- 31:00Speaker 1: Well that they certainly could have tried her, but you
- 31:02Speaker 1: know they really wanted that testimony from her, that direct evidence,
- 31:06Speaker 1: and also in light of the fact that she had
- 31:08Speaker 1: no criminal record, they probably wanted to show her some
- 31:11Speaker 1: mercy and give her an easy way out or an
- 31:13Speaker 1: easier way out than what she would have faced had
- 31:16Speaker 1: she have gone to trial earlier. Guys, you heard our
- 31:19Speaker 1: ABC Denver seven and Denver CBS four. Now take a
- 31:23Speaker 1: listen to Rick Salinger or CBS four. Crystal Lee, the
- 31:27Speaker 1: other party to this love triangle, testified this week that
- 31:31Speaker 1: Patrick Frasey admitted killing Barrett with a baseball bat. Law
- 31:36Speaker 1: enforcement agents searched phrases florescent grant several times and found
- 31:41Speaker 1: three wooden baseball bats. They also located part of a tooth.
- 31:46Speaker 1: It was beneath some plastic but over a spot where
- 31:49Speaker 1: Crystal Lee said she believed Barrett's body was burned. And
- 31:54Speaker 1: take a listen to what else Crystal Kenny had to
- 31:57Speaker 1: say in court. Here's our friends at KdV. Just a
- 32:00Speaker 1: few moments after Crystal Lee continued her second day of testimony,
- 32:04Speaker 1: she began to cry. She had been handed several photographs
- 32:08Speaker 1: of Kelsey Barrett's condo, which she had cleaned. Lee went
- 32:11Speaker 1: on to say, I saw blood all over the floor
- 32:14Speaker 1: and all over the wall, her belongings were covered in blood.
- 32:18Speaker 1: More tears began rolling down her face when Kelsey Barrett's
- 32:21Speaker 1: baby girl, Kayley, appeared on a large screen above the
- 32:25Speaker 1: jury box, and when she was asked to describe a
- 32:27Speaker 1: couch she had wiped down, She said today Phrasie told
- 32:31Speaker 1: her to text from Barrett's phone after she was dead,
- 32:34Speaker 1: saying he wanted to make it look like she was
- 32:36Speaker 1: still alive. Lee told the court today that she was
- 32:40Speaker 1: present when he started the fire in which Barrett's body
- 32:43Speaker 1: was burned. Phrasie's attorney pointed out that Lee had not
- 32:46Speaker 1: told the truth until a plea agreement was made. He said,
- 32:51Speaker 1: that's a story you had to tell agents to get
- 32:53Speaker 1: your plea deal. Lee said, I had to tell them
- 32:56Speaker 1: the truth. The reality is is that everything that Crystal
- 33:01Speaker 1: Kinney did divulge it was corroborated by evidence straight out
- 33:05Speaker 1: to doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalist joining us out of la
- 33:09Speaker 1: You can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
- 33:11Speaker 1: How bad is this for Kelsey Barris family to have
- 33:18Speaker 1: Crystal Kenney's sentence light as it was vacated? Bad? Nancy Bad.
- 33:26Speaker 1: I'm listening to all of this. I'm listening to the
- 33:28Speaker 1: panel and I almost can't believe my mind. I mean,
- 33:32Speaker 1: the defense attorney is talking about, oh did she have
- 33:35Speaker 1: you know, a prior record and you know the fact
- 33:38Speaker 1: that you know, something came up trial that now the
- 33:41Speaker 1: sentence has to be staycated. If this was a man
- 33:46Speaker 1: who lurked around a woman's apartment, cross state line several times,
- 33:53Speaker 1: wo into a bloody scene, blood all over the place
- 33:57Speaker 1: that victim has pod learned there's a two another part
- 34:01Speaker 1: of the room and was a part of that bloody
- 34:04Speaker 1: crime scene. But they did eighteen months. I mean, just
- 34:08Speaker 1: because Crystal Kenny is a rodeo queen, just because she's
- 34:12Speaker 1: a woman, so she ate it in a bed of
- 34:16Speaker 1: her boyfriend. I don't think we should call this aiding
- 34:19Speaker 1: the betting. I think that this was she was as
- 34:22Speaker 1: murderous as he was. She just was in after the fact.
- 34:27Speaker 1: I mean, Ashley Franko KKTV eleven. You hear doctor Bethany Marshall,
- 34:33Speaker 1: I've got a feeling a jury would agree with Bethany.
- 34:37Speaker 1: And also regarding the light sentence that she got. She
- 34:44Speaker 1: started crying on the stand. Boo, who why is she crying?
- 34:50Speaker 1: She is the one that stoked the fire that ended
- 34:55Speaker 1: with Phrasie murdering Kelsey. As a matter of fact, before
- 34:59Speaker 1: you come in on that, take a listen to our
- 35:01Speaker 1: friend over at CBS News This, says Nicky Batista. Lee
- 35:06Speaker 1: testified that Frazie told her he beat his fiance to
- 35:09Speaker 1: death with a baseball bat on Thanksgiving Day and that
- 35:12Speaker 1: Barett's last words were please stop. After the murder, Li
- 35:16Speaker 1: says Frasie called her and said she had a mest
- 35:19Speaker 1: to clean up. Crystal Lee says when she walked into
- 35:22Speaker 1: kelsey Beartstown home, she saw blood everywhere. She was cleaning
- 35:26Speaker 1: up this massive crime scene. Lee claimed she drove from
- 35:30Speaker 1: Idaho to Colorado and cleaned up the crime scene because
- 35:33Speaker 1: Frazie told her to and she feared for her life.
- 35:37Speaker 1: A few days after the murder, Lie says she watched
- 35:39Speaker 1: u Phrasie burned a black tote bag that he told
- 35:42Speaker 1: her contained Barrett's body and the baseball bat. Tashi Franco
- 35:47Speaker 1: KKTV eleven eleven News there in Colorado Springs, Ashley did
- 35:53Speaker 1: the mistress Crystal Kenney stay together in the relationship with
- 35:59Speaker 1: Phrasie after the murder, Yes, she was with him the
- 36:02Speaker 1: whole entire time, and she even on the stand said
- 36:05Speaker 1: that she was still in love with him when she
- 36:07Speaker 1: testified against him. So she definitely had something that was
- 36:11Speaker 1: just I guess in her heart saying that that she
- 36:14Speaker 1: still loves Fancy if I could interject, for really, she
- 36:17Speaker 1: had so many opportunities to go to the authorities and
- 36:23Speaker 1: tell them that he was planning on killing the single
- 36:26Speaker 1: mother of Toller. Did she go to the authorities know?
- 36:30Speaker 1: Even after victim was promissioned to guts? That's what it means.
- 36:39Speaker 1: She is still sleeping with a guy she knows to
- 36:44Speaker 1: be a brutal killer and the States defance Take a
- 36:49Speaker 1: listen to ABC dinverse seven. The district attorney says Kenny
- 36:53Speaker 1: got off too lightly, but says they had to make
- 36:56Speaker 1: a deal with the devil in order to convict Frazy.
- 36:58Speaker 1: It was a horrible some saying to hear the description
- 37:01Speaker 1: of what happened, he deserves every day he got and
- 37:04Speaker 1: then some. The brutal murder of Kelsey Barrett led to
- 37:07Speaker 1: a highly charged and highly emotional case with ex lover
- 37:10Speaker 1: Chrystal Lee Kenny at the center as the States star witness.
- 37:14Speaker 1: Do I feel bad every day that she only got
- 37:17Speaker 1: three years today, you bet you. But in the end,
- 37:19Speaker 1: we needed to solve this case. He needed to be
- 37:21Speaker 1: held accountable for what he did. He's the one who
- 37:23Speaker 1: brutally murdered this woman. Well, District Attorney Dan May calls
- 37:26Speaker 1: her three year prison sentence inadequate. Here's the reality. The
- 37:30Speaker 1: judge gave Kenny the maximum punishment allowed under her plea agreement.
- 37:34Speaker 1: Kenny signed that deal in exchange for her testimony against
- 37:37Speaker 1: Frazy testimony and evidence. Prosecutors say they needed to put
- 37:41Speaker 1: Freeze away for life. And we asked May if Kenny
- 37:45Speaker 1: could get out early for good behavior. His answer was yes.
- 37:49Speaker 1: Make called out Colorado lawmakers for letting it happen. Well,
- 37:52Speaker 1: we're finding it anymore. Is it's not unusual for someone
- 37:54Speaker 1: to serve maybe twenty five percent of their sentence on
- 37:57Speaker 1: a crime, no matter what it is. Wow, a lot
- 38:00Speaker 1: of finger pointing right now about whose fault it is
- 38:03Speaker 1: that this what I believe to be a co conspirator
- 38:05Speaker 1: to murder is walking free. Ashley Franco kk TV. What
- 38:12Speaker 1: happens now? So we're told by the district attorney that
- 38:15Speaker 1: they will be conferring with the Colorado Attorney General's office.
- 38:20Speaker 1: And from there they will both kind of see what
- 38:23Speaker 1: goes next. And then the courts, the Tyler County Court
- 38:25Speaker 1: supposed to set a date as to win that resentencing
- 38:28Speaker 1: will happen. We wait to see if justice can be
- 38:32Speaker 1: salvaged in any way. Nancy Grace Crown's story, signing off,
- 38:37Speaker 1: good my friend,