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- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome into the NFL Report on a Thursday, James Palmer, Steve,
- 0:09Speaker 1: whitch with you. I Am heading for vacation next week.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Steve's gonna be heading to the owners meeting, so him
- 0:14Speaker 1: and Judy Batista are gonna have a dynamite show on Monday.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Check out the guest list for that one when Monday
- 0:20Speaker 1: rolls around. But how about our guest list. You saw
- 0:22Speaker 1: him right there, Kenny Moore. The Indiapolis Colts resigned their
- 0:25Speaker 1: Starslock Corner to a massive new contract. We love to
- 0:29Speaker 1: talk about that position on this show, Steve. Also we
- 0:31Speaker 1: have Brian Baldinger breaking down which three teams improved themselves
- 0:35Speaker 1: the best through the trenches on the Lancer line. Speaking
- 0:38Speaker 1: of the trenches, talks about the top edge rushers in
- 0:42Speaker 1: this draft where they could potentially go off the board.
- 0:45Speaker 1: We'll also have Alvin Rbie who in an inspire change
- 0:49Speaker 1: initiative with the NFL.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Steve.
- 0:50Speaker 1: He is the founder of Barbershop was It Books, which
- 0:54Speaker 1: is an incredible initiative to get kids to go out
- 0:57Speaker 1: there and read. And I know, Steve, you spent some
- 1:01Speaker 1: time in a higher institution. That was the University of
- 1:04Speaker 1: Southern California at their pro day with Caleb Williams. I
- 1:07Speaker 1: need to know what happened at that pro day when
- 1:10Speaker 1: everybody knows he's going number one to the Bears.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look a really interesting thing real quick.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Kenny Moore, by the way, JP is the first repeat
- 1:19Speaker 3: performer I think here.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Second time around. Yes, it is on the NFL report.
- 1:23Speaker 3: So Kenny Moore, right, I Caleb Ford to have I
- 1:26Speaker 3: love for it, asould say either having you back on. Well,
- 1:28Speaker 3: let's get to Caleb Williams because again we're all assuming
- 1:32Speaker 3: safely that he's going to be the first overall pick
- 1:34Speaker 3: on the Chicago Bears who have that pick. They came
- 1:37Speaker 3: about eight d James. It's standing right behind Caleb during
- 1:42Speaker 3: this workout was Matt e Reflus to head coach Ryan Poles,
- 1:45Speaker 3: the assistant GM. You're seeing eb Reflus and Polls right
- 1:48Speaker 3: there right behind him over his right shoulder, keeping a
- 1:51Speaker 3: close eye on. And there's a lot of communication between
- 1:54Speaker 3: all the Bears, Brass and Caleb throughout the morning. So
- 1:58Speaker 3: but the one with Caleb that we saw was that
- 2:00Speaker 3: you know, he stayed in the pocket, right, nothing real
- 2:02Speaker 3: flashy like this is how good I can be under
- 2:05Speaker 3: calm circumstances, I said, is the case for most of
- 2:09Speaker 3: his junior season at USC, even though the year before
- 2:12Speaker 3: he was absolutely fantastic and winning the Heisman. So after
- 2:15Speaker 3: this workout, which is calm, Google actud fifty scripted throws,
- 2:19Speaker 3: no tight ends is part of that workout.
- 2:21Speaker 2: I caught up with Caleb.
- 2:22Speaker 3: But here's what he had to say about some of
- 2:24Speaker 3: the next moves coming up. Yeah, I'm sitting here with
- 2:28Speaker 3: Caleb Williams and Caleb a nice a nice workout right there.
- 2:31Speaker 4: Just your assessment and also the fun.
- 2:33Speaker 3: You had because we saw you laughing with you guys,
- 2:35Speaker 3: hugging up everybody after the workout.
- 2:37Speaker 4: Yeah, that's always one of the most important things.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Is to have fun.
- 2:43Speaker 5: I made sure my guys heard that a bunch of times,
- 2:46Speaker 5: whether it was last night when I sent him a text,
- 2:48Speaker 5: and then throughout this you know, this morning, in this
- 2:50Speaker 5: day so far, making sure that was the first and
- 2:53Speaker 5: first thing that I said to them in the text
- 2:55Speaker 5: or when I'm talking to him. So I had to
- 2:57Speaker 5: go out there and show that I was having fun
- 2:59Speaker 5: and by example, and then obviously go out there and
- 3:02Speaker 5: handle business.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Now we do.
- 3:04Speaker 3: The majority of your workout is gonna be from the pocket,
- 3:06Speaker 3: just kind of assess how do you think things went?
- 3:08Speaker 5: Yeah, I missed a couple. I missed a couple of
- 3:12Speaker 5: passes down the field deep ball, wise, vertical, and then
- 3:16Speaker 5: I had I think one or two I think one
- 3:19Speaker 5: behind my receiver. So you know, work on those things, right,
- 3:22Speaker 5: It's all right.
- 3:23Speaker 4: It still was a very good workout.
- 3:25Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 3:25Speaker 4: Look, we know you're the presumpted number one pick yep.
- 3:27Speaker 3: The Bears had a large contingent here in fact, coach
- 3:30Speaker 3: Matty Ebrafolus and GM mind Poles right behind you. Just
- 3:33Speaker 3: the fact that they traded justin fields and they cleared
- 3:35Speaker 3: some runway for you to land.
- 3:37Speaker 4: Is that your full expectation to be headed there?
- 3:42Speaker 5: It's a good question. I wouldn't say it's my full expectation. Obviously,
- 3:45Speaker 5: things can happen, things can change throughout this time. I
- 3:48Speaker 5: think it's around thirty three days or so, thirty days
- 3:51Speaker 5: until you know April twenty fifth, and so you know
- 3:54Speaker 5: a lot can change. You take it day by day,
- 3:57Speaker 5: handle it and handle and control which you can control.
- 3:59Speaker 3: And with that is your head coach here at USC
- 4:01Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley, and he said, expectations is something you've dealt
- 4:04Speaker 3: with even coming out of high school today, all thirty
- 4:06Speaker 3: two teams were here. How have you and how do
- 4:10Speaker 3: you deal with everything that's going to be expected of you?
- 4:13Speaker 5: Yeah, first and foremost, I have a great mom and dad.
- 4:17Speaker 5: It starts there, started there, from when I was born
- 4:19Speaker 5: and them raising me to this twenty two year old now.
- 4:22Speaker 5: And then you know, I took and I took my
- 4:25Speaker 5: own road, and and and you know, as I got older,
- 4:29Speaker 5: and then obviously I got coach Riley. I've had coaches
- 4:32Speaker 5: in high school Coach Andy Driver's uh, Danny Schefter and
- 4:35Speaker 5: and things like that.
- 4:36Speaker 1: So you know, help keep molding me. And I'm still molding.
- 4:39Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be the man I am, you know
- 4:41Speaker 5: many years from now, twenty years from now when I
- 4:43Speaker 5: retire hopefully and and can play ball hopefully for a
- 4:46Speaker 5: really long time.
- 4:47Speaker 4: Great last question, just what what's next?
- 4:49Speaker 3: I mean, what's on your schedule in terms of visits
- 4:52Speaker 3: things like that.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're still.
- 4:53Speaker 5: Figuring the visits out. We'll have all of that solved
- 4:57Speaker 5: pretty here, pretty soon. We wanted to make sure we
- 5:00Speaker 5: came out here, put on a show for everybody, and
- 5:02Speaker 5: and focusing on my training for you know, my first
- 5:05Speaker 5: my first game and o t as of of the NFL.
- 5:07Speaker 3: I know it's the last question, but quickly Keenan Allen, Yeah,
- 5:09Speaker 3: receiver was here. What about seeing him? It was right,
- 5:12Speaker 3: you guys, hang it up for a minute.
- 5:13Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've known I've known Keenan for a little
- 5:15Speaker 5: bit now hung out. He was at the he was
- 5:17Speaker 5: at the Chargers of the time obviously, and then you know,
- 5:20Speaker 5: now he's at the Bears for like I says, here
- 5:22Speaker 5: for a fourth round pick, which is crazy last year.
- 5:27Speaker 4: You know, he's a beast, good guy, awesome dude to
- 5:29Speaker 4: be around.
- 5:30Speaker 1: He can give you a lot of knowledge.
- 5:31Speaker 4: All right, Caleb, Hey, thanks for the time, man, Well done,
- 5:34Speaker 4: Thank you, good luck, Thank you.
- 5:36Speaker 2: There'd be a couple of.
- 5:37Speaker 3: Things I just wanted to make sure to clarify coming
- 5:39Speaker 3: out of that interview. First off, even though he failt,
- 5:41Speaker 3: he's going to go on his visits after the workout,
- 5:43Speaker 3: the Bears brass was there.
- 5:45Speaker 2: I was told by someone there.
- 5:46Speaker 3: They got there Monday, They had dinner with Caleb, they
- 5:48Speaker 3: spent time with him.
- 5:49Speaker 2: So they've done a tremendous amount of homework.
- 5:51Speaker 3: The communication going on to the Bears and Caleb really
- 5:54Speaker 3: leaves no question as to what's going on and what
- 5:56Speaker 3: I said, you expect to be the pick.
- 5:59Speaker 2: By the Bears.
- 5:59Speaker 3: He was like, well, I can't expect it. You wanted
- 6:01Speaker 3: to say yes, but he says, look, you know they
- 6:04Speaker 3: could trade the pick. They can do this or that.
- 6:05Speaker 3: Add Some folks on social media like, well, he didn't
- 6:07Speaker 3: sound too enthusiastic. You'll be just fine to be get
- 6:09Speaker 3: drafted by the Chicago Bears.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree. I love that Keenan Allen was there.
- 6:14Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen a player that is probably
- 6:18Speaker 1: going to be the number one target of that quarterback
- 6:21Speaker 1: that's going to go number one at the Pro Day.
- 6:23Speaker 1: I've just never seen it. You see guys go back
- 6:25Speaker 1: to the ra Alma mottern. Keenan Allen's a cow guy,
- 6:28Speaker 1: so this is usc. He was there to see his
- 6:30Speaker 1: future quarterback, which I thought was really cool. The second
- 6:33Speaker 1: part of it, Steve, is I love that you described
- 6:35Speaker 1: this as the exact opposite of what we've seen from
- 6:38Speaker 1: a lot of top quarterbacks and what can they do
- 6:40Speaker 1: with wow throws? What can they do moving? I remember
- 6:43Speaker 1: going to a variety of these, from Trevor Lawrence to
- 6:45Speaker 1: Mac Jones to CJ. Stroud, what can you do athletically
- 6:49Speaker 1: outside of the pocket. That's what we need to sell
- 6:51Speaker 1: these scouts on. That's not anything Kayleb Williams needs to
- 6:54Speaker 1: sell anyone in the NFL on on what he can
- 6:56Speaker 1: do with his legs outside of the pocket, creating scrambling,
- 7:00Speaker 1: what he was able to do inside the body. And
- 7:02Speaker 1: the big thing I hear as I throw this back
- 7:03Speaker 1: to you around the league is his footwork staying within
- 7:06Speaker 1: the pocket is maybe unmatched in this draft coming up,
- 7:10Speaker 1: and that is extremely important with messy pockets in the NFL.
- 7:13Speaker 1: And I love that that's the kind of the approach
- 7:15Speaker 1: he had with this pro.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Dem and that's one of the things that a lot
- 7:18Speaker 3: of people say give the comparison to Patrick Mahomes, not
- 7:20Speaker 3: that he's Mahomes, but footwork and things like that. Somebody
- 7:24Speaker 3: who knows a lot about Caleb Williams, head coach Lincoln Riley,
- 7:27Speaker 3: brought him from Oklahoma to USC.
- 7:29Speaker 2: I caught it with him.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Here's some thoughts about Caleb's future as you go to
- 7:33Speaker 3: the NFL.
- 7:36Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he probably will be just about as
- 7:39Speaker 7: prepared as you could be to go into situation like that.
- 7:42Speaker 7: And that's one of those things that you probably can't
- 7:45Speaker 7: completely simulate it until you actually get in the middle
- 7:48Speaker 7: and experience it. But you know, winning a Heisman Trophy
- 7:51Speaker 7: at USC, you know, in the middle of Los Angeles
- 7:54Speaker 7: is probably about as close.
- 7:55Speaker 1: As you can get.
- 7:56Speaker 7: And so he's used to being under the microscope, used
- 8:00Speaker 7: to kind of having his game and everything he does
- 8:02Speaker 7: and everything that he says dissected every which way. There's
- 8:06Speaker 7: certainly some new challenges and I know he's going to
- 8:09Speaker 7: have some ups and downs, just like every rookie that
- 8:11Speaker 7: goes into that league.
- 8:12Speaker 1: But you know, he loves the game.
- 8:14Speaker 7: I think he's going to continue to improve and I
- 8:17Speaker 7: think you know, whatever team he ends up with will
- 8:19Speaker 7: be very happy with him coach.
- 8:20Speaker 8: Lastly, just when you look at the metrics of everything
- 8:23Speaker 8: he's done for only fourteen interceptions in his three years
- 8:27Speaker 8: as a starter, one that tells you he's accurate, but
- 8:29Speaker 8: too he's a good decision maker. In coaching him and
- 8:32Speaker 8: seeing all of that high touchdown to low interception ratio,
- 8:37Speaker 8: how do you think that translates to the NFL, because
- 8:39Speaker 8: we know those are two things that are significant at
- 8:42Speaker 8: playing at that level.
- 8:43Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's important. I mean, I think it
- 8:45Speaker 7: shows that he values the ball. You know, sometimes I
- 8:48Speaker 7: think people turn on a highlight and they think he's
- 8:50Speaker 7: just this reckless player, that's this gunslinger, and honestly he's not.
- 8:54Speaker 7: He's he's at times, even early in his career, was
- 8:57Speaker 7: even maybe even more conservative than I wanted him to be.
- 9:00Speaker 7: But he always valued taking care of the ball. He
- 9:03Speaker 7: always had a patience that honestly was even better on
- 9:07Speaker 7: game day than it was on the practice field, which
- 9:09Speaker 7: for a lot of young qbs it's the opposite. He
- 9:12Speaker 7: always seemed to kind of calm down and settle down,
- 9:15Speaker 7: even be a little bit more patient on game day
- 9:17Speaker 7: even as a young player, which I loved and so
- 9:20Speaker 7: so Yeah, it's going to be obviously very important as
- 9:22Speaker 7: the windows tightened down in that league as you face
- 9:25Speaker 7: the type of pass rushers that he's getting ready to face.
- 9:28Speaker 7: But to show that he's already had that ability at
- 9:31Speaker 7: a young age, I think bodes well for him.
- 9:34Speaker 1: What insight from Lincoln Riley with you there, Steve into
- 9:38Speaker 1: the makeup of Caleb Williams, The main things that jump
- 9:41Speaker 1: out at me. One is the way he maybe takes
- 9:44Speaker 1: more risks in practice, which is probably where you should
- 9:46Speaker 1: be with the football at the quarterback position a little more,
- 9:50Speaker 1: you know, deliberate with the way he throws it during
- 9:53Speaker 1: the games. When you have one thousand and ninety nine
- 9:56Speaker 1: pass attempts in fourteen interceptions over three years, I think
- 9:59Speaker 1: is pretty good at protecting the football. Because the last
- 10:02Speaker 1: three years with the Bears, they had fifteen interceptions, fifteen
- 10:05Speaker 1: interceptions and twenty interceptions Kayleb Williams fourteen over his last
- 10:09Speaker 1: three I look at the receiver group that he's going
- 10:11Speaker 1: to walk into, Steve, and you look at Keenan Allen
- 10:14Speaker 1: and Dj Moore and Cole Kament and Gerald Everett. All
- 10:17Speaker 1: of these guys have high football IQs and they're where
- 10:19Speaker 1: they're supposed to be. And I think that's huge for
- 10:21Speaker 1: the system that he's walking into and.
- 10:23Speaker 2: That's going to be perfect.
- 10:24Speaker 3: Look the one thing again, ninety three career touchdowns as
- 10:26Speaker 3: a collegiate starter, fourteen interceptions. He has put the ball
- 10:29Speaker 3: on the ground with fumbles. Okay, again the numbers are
- 10:33Speaker 3: all over the place. Of what we've seen, he has
- 10:34Speaker 3: put the ball on the ground, hasn't lost many, but
- 10:36Speaker 3: that's something he is going to have to tighten up.
- 10:39Speaker 3: But like you said, when he goes to Chicago, the
- 10:42Speaker 3: situation is much better than what Justin Fields walked into
- 10:46Speaker 3: a couple of years ago when he was the first
- 10:48Speaker 3: round pick. Well, coming up, we're talking about quarterbacks going
- 10:50Speaker 3: into good situations. Ryan Baldinger is going to let us
- 10:54Speaker 3: know which teams have moved in the trenches, including those
- 10:58Speaker 3: teams that might be rafting a rookie quarterback. Next on
- 11:02Speaker 3: the NFL Report, roll that tape, ELC.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Welcome back into the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whitch,
- 11:19Speaker 1: I have my popcorn. That means, Baldy, we're back in
- 11:22Speaker 1: the thickest things. We're evaluating everything post free agency. Brian
- 11:26Speaker 1: Baldinger joins us for Baldy's favorite films, and Baldy, we
- 11:30Speaker 1: came to you with this question your three teams that
- 11:33Speaker 1: during free agency improved themselves in the trenches. We'll start
- 11:37Speaker 1: with number three, Carolina Panthers. Two massive guards come there
- 11:42Speaker 1: and Robert Hunt and Damian Lewis. What do you see
- 11:45Speaker 1: out of what Carolina did I do like that those
- 11:47Speaker 1: guys have blocked for shorter quarterbacks in their past. In
- 11:50Speaker 1: Russell Wilson into a tongue of Iolo I'm not sure
- 11:52Speaker 1: if that matters, but they have.
- 11:54Speaker 9: Well, you know, Bryce Sengi is the biggest guy, but
- 11:57Speaker 9: he needs better protection than what we saw last year.
- 12:00Speaker 9: You're gonna take Bryce number one like they did, and
- 12:02Speaker 9: there was this struggle by everybody in that organization. Coaches fired,
- 12:06Speaker 9: gms fired, everything changed. You got to do your very
- 12:10Speaker 9: best to support your franchise quarterback and give them every
- 12:14Speaker 9: opportunity be successful. And I think Robert Hunt played very
- 12:17Speaker 9: good for the Miami Dolphins. They ran the ball very strong.
- 12:21Speaker 9: Tua had a good season, back to back good years there,
- 12:24Speaker 9: especially when healthy, and Damian Lewis has been doing that
- 12:27Speaker 9: you know in Seattle. So I think they got two
- 12:30Speaker 9: really good guards. I think they got to figure out
- 12:32Speaker 9: the center position still, but it's a good draft for centers.
- 12:35Speaker 9: I would expect them to draft one. You know, Austin
- 12:38Speaker 9: Corbett got hurt last year and it just kind of crumbled.
- 12:41Speaker 9: But I think Carolina they look better inside right now.
- 12:46Speaker 6: With Hunt and Lewis than they did at any point
- 12:48Speaker 6: last year.
- 12:49Speaker 10: And Baldy.
- 12:49Speaker 3: You know, when you look at Carolina right now, the
- 12:51Speaker 3: way they're you know, they're trying, I guess, to remake
- 12:54Speaker 3: their team Is this the best way to for them
- 12:57Speaker 3: to kind of start. We keep talking about how they
- 12:59Speaker 3: didn't have any why receivers, but to fortify that interior,
- 13:02Speaker 3: Is this the best first step, so to speak.
- 13:04Speaker 6: Yeah. And I always think that it's like everybody's going.
- 13:07Speaker 9: To pay attention to the tackles, especially in this draft,
- 13:09Speaker 9: and it's a good class for tackles. But I mean,
- 13:13Speaker 9: if your interior, if your center isn't strong, if your
- 13:16Speaker 9: guards can't just keep the pocket flat. I don't care
- 13:19Speaker 9: if you're Bryce Young or if you're Joe Burrow or
- 13:21Speaker 9: if you're Mahomes. I mean, you've got to get those
- 13:24Speaker 9: positions fixed so that your quarterback has a chance to
- 13:27Speaker 9: deliver the ball short yards goal line.
- 13:30Speaker 6: You got to get a yard.
- 13:31Speaker 9: You better be able to move people up front and
- 13:33Speaker 9: be able to retain possession, finished strives in the end zone.
- 13:36Speaker 9: All those kind of things are really important to the
- 13:39Speaker 9: success of any offense, but especially in offense that's trying
- 13:43Speaker 9: to be rebuilt and try to you know, compete right
- 13:46Speaker 9: now this year, I think it starts up front and
- 13:48Speaker 9: in the trenches.
- 13:49Speaker 6: I think they got two you know, guys that are
- 13:51Speaker 6: still young.
- 13:52Speaker 9: You have the best football right in front of them
- 13:54Speaker 9: on their second contracts.
- 13:56Speaker 6: You can build with those guys and around those guys.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Your quarterback sack sixty two times, protecting him up the
- 14:03Speaker 1: middle obviously extremely important. I just want them to change
- 14:05Speaker 1: their identity as well. I want the Panthers to kind
- 14:08Speaker 1: of have that, you know, in your face identity. I
- 14:10Speaker 1: love that Damian Lewis said that when he was you know,
- 14:13Speaker 1: at his press conference, I'm going to be the type
- 14:14Speaker 1: of guy that puts your face in the ground. They
- 14:16Speaker 1: need that in Carolina. Let's go to your second team.
- 14:20Speaker 1: In terms of the trenches. In the Houston Texans, Nikosara
- 14:24Speaker 1: not a big spender in free agency usually, but he
- 14:27Speaker 1: went out and made a number of moves to help,
- 14:30Speaker 1: especially this defensive line. We know the way Demiko Ryans
- 14:33Speaker 1: thinks that if you need an elite defense, the D
- 14:36Speaker 1: line's a big part of it. And if you want
- 14:37Speaker 1: to be a contender in the AFC Baldy, you got
- 14:39Speaker 1: to go after these AFC quarterbacks. No question.
- 14:42Speaker 9: That's how Nick's thinking, That's how Demico's thinking, James, and
- 14:45Speaker 9: so you know, Demiko comes from, you know, a franchise
- 14:48Speaker 9: in San Francisco where they wanted to be eight deep
- 14:50Speaker 9: on the defensive line, and so look Malik Collins, Sheldon Rankins.
- 14:55Speaker 6: They were good last year, but they.
- 14:56Speaker 9: Have now added you know, obviously Daniel high Turn after
- 15:00Speaker 9: Chris Jones was signed re signed by Kansas City and
- 15:03Speaker 9: giving that big, huge signing bonus. I thought Danil Hunter
- 15:06Speaker 9: was the next best free agent and all free agency,
- 15:09Speaker 9: coming off his best season playing opposite of Will Anderson
- 15:12Speaker 9: right now. Then you add Deniko Autrey and I know this,
- 15:15Speaker 9: I know Deniko got Nick Casario excited. This guy is
- 15:20Speaker 9: just one heck of a football player wherever you play
- 15:22Speaker 9: in Tennessee. Yeah, I thought he was part of the
- 15:24Speaker 9: best defensive line of football three years ago. He can
- 15:27Speaker 9: rush inside, outside, he's got counting the playoffs, James, He's
- 15:31Speaker 9: got thirty sacks the last three years with the Titans.
- 15:34Speaker 9: He's used to being in a dominant front four defensive team.
- 15:38Speaker 9: That's what this looks like. Then you add fully Fooicosi
- 15:41Speaker 9: and Mario you know, Williams, and you add some of
- 15:43Speaker 9: those guys in front. You know, fully you know, can
- 15:46Speaker 9: really be that that guy that can eat up the
- 15:50Speaker 9: double teams, the free up Aziz al Shai here and
- 15:53Speaker 9: you know, all the linebackers Christian Harris that they have there.
- 15:57Speaker 9: I think this is quickly being built into one of
- 16:01Speaker 9: the better defensive fronts and all the football.
- 16:03Speaker 6: They were already great last year against the run.
- 16:05Speaker 9: At one point last year they were number one in
- 16:08Speaker 9: the NFL against the run. I think they finished number two.
- 16:11Speaker 9: So they already kind of have that mindset that we're
- 16:14Speaker 9: gonna stop the run. That's the first phase of getting
- 16:17Speaker 9: after Mahomes and Josh Allen and Lamar and some of
- 16:20Speaker 9: these teams that you got to get pasted in the AFC.
- 16:24Speaker 9: They're on the way right now. I thought this front
- 16:26Speaker 9: really took a step up in I life. I love
- 16:28Speaker 9: Jonathan greenerd but when he's left to sign of Minnesota
- 16:31Speaker 9: and they went after and got to Neil Hunter, I said,
- 16:34Speaker 9: they just upgraded that position.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Which is crazy because I mean, you're talking about how
- 16:38Speaker 3: Grenard was just so good down there. But Hunters of
- 16:41Speaker 3: guys continues to win, right He can win those individual
- 16:44Speaker 3: and those double teams, and you got to consistently have
- 16:46Speaker 3: that guy, but you also have to have tackles to
- 16:49Speaker 3: keep those guys off your quarterbacks. This leads us to
- 16:52Speaker 3: your number one team that is upgraded in the trenches.
- 16:56Speaker 3: Who you got, Baldy, because I do think these moves
- 17:00Speaker 3: are actually more hit or miss. You hit big or
- 17:03Speaker 3: you miss big with these moves.
- 17:05Speaker 9: Well, the New York Jets and so you know, obviously
- 17:07Speaker 9: the Jets were a mess last year.
- 17:10Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers four plays. I mean, we know the story.
- 17:13Speaker 9: But you know they have to get this thing right
- 17:16Speaker 9: that nobody has been a more fractured injured offensive line
- 17:20Speaker 9: than the New York Jets. They've just missed on players.
- 17:23Speaker 9: And so Tyron Smith comes in. Look, he has protected
- 17:27Speaker 9: the backside of Tony Romo and Dak Prescott over the
- 17:30Speaker 9: last eleven years. He's been excellent, but he has miss time.
- 17:35Speaker 9: You know, he did play fifteen games last year, So
- 17:38Speaker 9: that's if they could get thirteen to fifteen games out
- 17:41Speaker 9: of Tyrant.
- 17:42Speaker 6: That's a win.
- 17:43Speaker 9: Three years ago, the ahead Morgan Moses and he played
- 17:45Speaker 9: great for him, and then they let him walk.
- 17:47Speaker 6: To the Baltimore Ravens, where you literally, you.
- 17:50Speaker 9: Know, was the starting right tackle a team that led
- 17:53Speaker 9: the league in rushing, was a dominant player there. He's
- 17:57Speaker 9: going into his eleventh season. He did miss a couple
- 18:00Speaker 9: of games last year with an arm injury, but for
- 18:03Speaker 9: the most part he's been healthy. They get Morgan Moses back,
- 18:07Speaker 9: and then they went and signed John Simpson was a
- 18:09Speaker 9: big fan of he came out of Clemson. He started
- 18:12Speaker 9: every game last year for the Baltimore Ravens. They led
- 18:15Speaker 9: the league in rushing. But it's it's not just that,
- 18:17Speaker 9: it's the way that he plays. Steve like he's a puller,
- 18:20Speaker 9: you know. They run traps, they run powers, they run
- 18:22Speaker 9: counters like he's used to, getting in space and clearing
- 18:26Speaker 9: bodies out of the way. And I can see an
- 18:29Speaker 9: offensive line right now with John Simpson on one side,
- 18:32Speaker 9: Ali Vera Tucker on the other side, where they get
- 18:34Speaker 9: that power game going with Breeze Hall. They drafted Joe
- 18:37Speaker 9: pitt Tipman last year to be their center. He became
- 18:40Speaker 9: their center last year. I can see for the first
- 18:43Speaker 9: time the Jets can put a starting five out there.
- 18:47Speaker 9: I don't think they're finished yet. They're picking number ten.
- 18:50Speaker 9: It's an offensive tackle draft, but I can't see them
- 18:55Speaker 9: taking number ten right now with an offensive tackle.
- 18:57Speaker 6: After what they've just done.
- 18:59Speaker 9: They can start address the receiver position, the tight end position,
- 19:02Speaker 9: some other things that could help Aaron Rodgers.
- 19:04Speaker 3: Oh my god, Baal Jay bald these givens yet fans hope,
- 19:07Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, they're gonna lose their minds.
- 19:10Speaker 1: I love it because this is what I wanted to
- 19:13Speaker 1: get to, though, Baldi, with the players that they signed,
- 19:16Speaker 1: and you mentioned the number tenth overall pick, and this
- 19:18Speaker 1: is what I want your take on, because you're right,
- 19:20Speaker 1: they can get another offensive lineman with ten and they
- 19:23Speaker 1: could totally go that route and that guy is not
- 19:26Speaker 1: plugged in to be an immediate need type of player
- 19:31Speaker 1: in their rookie season maybe, But also you mentioned the
- 19:34Speaker 1: other ways that they can go. I also look at
- 19:36Speaker 1: the ability now if you're not forced into that, but yeah,
- 19:38Speaker 1: you can go go brought Bowers, you could go to
- 19:41Speaker 1: the tight end spot. You could go with rideyways you
- 19:43Speaker 1: get an edge rusher to replace Huff. But also you
- 19:45Speaker 1: could maybe maybe move back because they only have picks
- 19:49Speaker 1: ten in seventy two in the top one hundred. That's it,
- 19:52Speaker 1: so you could potentially if somebody wants a quarterback right,
- 19:55Speaker 1: you could make a move to even get yourself a
- 19:57Speaker 1: little bit deeper.
- 19:58Speaker 6: No question.
- 19:59Speaker 9: Joe Douglas from Baltimore and Philadelphia, where you know whether.
- 20:03Speaker 6: It's Ozzie Newsom or Howie Roseman.
- 20:04Speaker 9: The guys that he has worked for are used to
- 20:07Speaker 9: dancing up and down that draft board and really recuperating value,
- 20:13Speaker 9: and so that's certainly a possibility right now. Both tackles
- 20:17Speaker 9: Tyron Smith and Morgan Moses. They're both thirty three years old.
- 20:22Speaker 9: You know, you got to you gotta think about the future.
- 20:24Speaker 9: But Aaron Rodgers, I don't know what, you know, what
- 20:27Speaker 9: is his time frame here, two years at the most,
- 20:30Speaker 9: like you should probably give him every chance to be
- 20:33Speaker 9: successful and to see just you know, the talent that
- 20:36Speaker 9: he is. Give him every chance right now. Obviously, signing
- 20:39Speaker 9: Mike Williams might take him away from wide receiver, maybe
- 20:42Speaker 9: brock Bauers, you know, you know, maybe other you know,
- 20:45Speaker 9: a franchise type player. But at the same time, it's
- 20:48Speaker 9: not a bad idea to kind of look to the
- 20:50Speaker 9: future because Aaron Rodgers isn't going to be there forever.
- 20:53Speaker 6: True.
- 20:53Speaker 9: So they have a lot of flexibility at number ten
- 20:57Speaker 9: to go up, to go down to draft the future,
- 21:01Speaker 9: or to get themselves to start player where they can
- 21:03Speaker 9: plug them and just say, you.
- 21:05Speaker 6: Know what, we're going for it all. We're in this
- 21:07Speaker 6: thing to win it. Let's go for it.
- 21:09Speaker 9: This year and if it doesn't work out, yeah, we'll
- 21:12Speaker 9: be back in the market again.
- 21:14Speaker 3: They're going for it all Baldy.
- 21:15Speaker 2: They got their hands up on the roller coaster.
- 21:17Speaker 3: There is no planning for the future on this with Hey,
- 21:20Speaker 3: so boal, let me get so we know at the
- 21:21Speaker 3: top of the draft, the first three picks likely are
- 21:23Speaker 3: going to be quarterbacks, right we also you got that cluster.
- 21:26Speaker 3: You got the Vikings, Raiders, and Broncos. They also need quarterbacks.
- 21:30Speaker 3: Which team, speaking of the trenches, is kind of best
- 21:34Speaker 3: set up to help a rookie quarterback succeed in terms
- 21:37Speaker 3: of an offensive line.
- 21:38Speaker 9: Well, you know if the offensive lines also a function
- 21:41Speaker 9: of you know, how your receivers win on the outside.
- 21:44Speaker 9: And so if you're the Minnesota Vikings right now, and
- 21:47Speaker 9: I know Sam Darnold is there but at eleven or
- 21:50Speaker 9: if they you know, stay there and move whatever, if
- 21:53Speaker 9: they're looking at a quarterback, I mean, you hand it
- 21:56Speaker 9: off to Aaron Jones, It's going to be nice to
- 21:58Speaker 9: throw to Justin Jefferson or Jordan Addison's or TJ.
- 22:01Speaker 6: Hockinson's gonna be nice for anybody.
- 22:04Speaker 9: But I feel like they've got a pretty good offensive
- 22:08Speaker 9: line as it is they have protected Kirk Cousins. And
- 22:11Speaker 9: you know, you think about last week's last year's big
- 22:14Speaker 9: win from Minnesota when they beat the forty nine ers
- 22:17Speaker 9: and Kirk Cousins dropped back forty five times in that game, Steve,
- 22:21Speaker 9: he wasn't sacked one time. You know, they did a
- 22:24Speaker 9: pretty good job of protecting a variety of quarterbacks last
- 22:28Speaker 9: year after Kirk got hurt. And so I feel like
- 22:31Speaker 9: the Vikings are the best set up right now to
- 22:34Speaker 9: handle a young quarterback coming in and possibly potentially playing
- 22:38Speaker 9: right away.
- 22:39Speaker 3: Man, this is such great soft Baldy JP. This is
- 22:42Speaker 3: such good stuff, Like this is what we love to
- 22:44Speaker 3: do on the show, Baldy, have you on and just
- 22:46Speaker 3: let's talk to real football stuff, not just the Hyperboley
- 22:49Speaker 3: and all that, so real good stuff.
- 22:51Speaker 2: But Baldi, we know you're ready on vacation. We're gonna
- 22:54Speaker 2: be looking for.
- 22:54Speaker 3: More of your breakdowns from underwater, So save travels, my
- 22:58Speaker 3: friend bon voyage.
- 23:00Speaker 9: Yeah all right, thank you, Steve. I did a crash
- 23:03Speaker 9: course and I studied. All okay, I'll see you next week, guys.
- 23:06Speaker 3: Coming on after the break Oh, we are talking edge
- 23:09Speaker 3: rushers with more specifically Lance Zerline.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Our draft analyst, and.
- 23:13Speaker 2: Man, is he got it loaded up for you? Stick
- 23:17Speaker 2: around and come back to the NFL Report. Pull the tape.
- 23:20Speaker 3: Elsie back at the NFL Report and you look at
- 23:35Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy, Tarol Austin, a Steelers defensive coordinator there at
- 23:38Speaker 3: the Alabama Pro Day. Mike Tomlin was in the house,
- 23:42Speaker 3: and they're probably keeping their eye on edge rusher Dallas Turner. Well,
- 23:46Speaker 3: the top players in the country's supposed to be a
- 23:48Speaker 3: very high pick. We're going talk about that in a minute,
- 23:51Speaker 3: but before we get to that, let's go to our
- 23:53Speaker 3: Tom pellisera who is at the pro day. We caught
- 23:55Speaker 3: a spot with Dallas Turner.
- 24:00Speaker 11: I feel that I should be the first defensive player
- 24:01Speaker 11: off the board because of the tnasty I bring to
- 24:03Speaker 11: the game, my IQ, how fast I play, you know,
- 24:07Speaker 11: just being the most versatile agent and draft as well,
- 24:10Speaker 11: you know, being able to pass, rush and drop me
- 24:12Speaker 11: and you know, and just help my teammates and be
- 24:14Speaker 11: the best team out can possibly be.
- 24:16Speaker 6: So I know you're sticking around Tuscalos.
- 24:17Speaker 1: After this, we got some team visits where all you headed.
- 24:19Speaker 11: I'm headed to I know, I gotta go to Atlanta, Minnesota.
- 24:24Speaker 11: I gotta go to Chicago and Arizona.
- 24:28Speaker 3: Right doubtas Turner naming three teams that could use an
- 24:31Speaker 3: edge rusher. But you look at this board right here,
- 24:33Speaker 3: there's an awful lot you've got.
- 24:35Speaker 2: The Bears will probably use a ninth pick on one
- 24:37Speaker 2: if they use it.
- 24:37Speaker 3: Atlanta, the Jack the Vikings, the Broncos, Seahawks, Rams, Dolphins, Buffalo, Bills, Lions.
- 24:43Speaker 3: Who doesn't need an edge rusher? But James Palmer. We're
- 24:47Speaker 3: back here on the NFL Report. We're gonna bring in
- 24:49Speaker 3: our draft expert, Lanzer Lion who knows there is edge
- 24:52Speaker 3: rusher as well. And Lance, you just saw Dallas Turner
- 24:56Speaker 3: there with Tom Pellis hero say he should be the
- 24:58Speaker 3: first defensive player off the board. First off, just your
- 25:02Speaker 3: thoughts on Turner.
- 25:03Speaker 10: Well, so, Dallas Turner, you know I first noticed him
- 25:05Speaker 10: when he was really giving Charles crosswork at Mississippi State.
- 25:09Speaker 10: When I was studying Charles Cross a couple of years ago,
- 25:11Speaker 10: and I had to go to the roster because if
- 25:13Speaker 10: you're not draft eligible, I have time to look at
- 25:15Speaker 10: you right now. But I got five hundred players to
- 25:18Speaker 10: write up. But I made note of who's number fifteen.
- 25:20Speaker 10: Dallas Turner. Wow, I'm gonna remember this kid, and here
- 25:23Speaker 10: we are two years later, and you know, I think
- 25:26Speaker 10: he's a similar player. He's a little bit gangly looking
- 25:29Speaker 10: on the hook, but he was over two hundred and
- 25:31Speaker 10: fifty pounds at his pro day, which was heavier than
- 25:34Speaker 10: at the Combine. I think that's great. Twenty reps in
- 25:37Speaker 10: the bench, which I thought was nice. But really, Steve,
- 25:39Speaker 10: what kind of separates Dallas Turner is? Yes, he comes
- 25:42Speaker 10: from the Alabama pedigree of rushers, but he is a
- 25:45Speaker 10: really elite athlete. I mean from an explosion standpoint. At
- 25:49Speaker 10: the Combine, his speed numbers, his ability to bend and
- 25:52Speaker 10: make things happen once he's inside the pocket, change direction
- 25:55Speaker 10: in Hound quarterbacks were trying to get away from him.
- 25:58Speaker 10: I think if you want a guy who has that
- 26:00Speaker 10: the rush talent that's typical of Alabama rushers, and then
- 26:03Speaker 10: you want to look at the athletic profile that it's
- 26:05Speaker 10: an elite profile, including extraordinarily long arms and wingspan das
- 26:11Speaker 10: Dallas gives you. Dallas Turner gives you a very unique
- 26:15Speaker 10: set of skills, so to speak. When it comes to
- 26:18Speaker 10: the pass rush. There's four key rushers in the first
- 26:21Speaker 10: round but he's a guy that kind of blends all
- 26:23Speaker 10: of them together.
- 26:24Speaker 1: I love that he's a Liam Neesen. He blends it
- 26:26Speaker 1: all together. Lance. I love you mentioned the speed, I
- 26:28Speaker 1: mean four four seven at the combine that was about
- 26:30Speaker 1: its fluid crist you could see a big man run
- 26:33Speaker 1: in the forty as smooth as he looked. And you
- 26:35Speaker 1: mentioned the athletic ability a fantastic basketball player in high school.
- 26:41Speaker 1: I know everybody always kind of looks at those traits
- 26:42Speaker 1: as well when they're evaluating some of these guys. To
- 26:44Speaker 1: spread that out, you mentioned these edge rushers, and there's
- 26:47Speaker 1: about four of them you mentioned. But where do we
- 26:50Speaker 1: see I know you have another mock draft coming out
- 26:52Speaker 1: soon and it's not out yet, but where would we see,
- 26:55Speaker 1: as we hinted at it, the first defensive player go
- 26:58Speaker 1: off the board. And will it be Dallas Turner?
- 27:01Speaker 10: I think it could be Turner. I think it's going
- 27:03Speaker 10: to be between Turner and Verse, Jared Verse, and I'll
- 27:06Speaker 10: get into Jared Vers in a second. But you know,
- 27:08Speaker 10: Chop Robinson from Penn State is a huge projection player,
- 27:11Speaker 10: great traits, but he's not there yet, so I think
- 27:14Speaker 10: he will probably be fourth. A lot to his draft
- 27:17Speaker 10: standing is going to be, you know, determined by his medicals.
- 27:20Speaker 10: But I think when you start looking at you guys
- 27:22Speaker 10: talk to Balding, and you started looking at the way
- 27:24Speaker 10: some of these teams are coming together from a free
- 27:26Speaker 10: agency standpoint, and now it may change. You know, the
- 27:29Speaker 10: Jets may look at a pass rusher, for example, with
- 27:31Speaker 10: their selection. I think that you know, Minnesota obviously, if
- 27:35Speaker 10: they ended up staying there and not making a move
- 27:37Speaker 10: for quarterback, which we anticipate, I think they need rush
- 27:40Speaker 10: and so I think probably the earliest you're going to
- 27:43Speaker 10: see a pass rusher would be maybe the Falcons could
- 27:46Speaker 10: be the absolute earliest at eight, but you could make
- 27:49Speaker 10: a point for going even earlier than that, because these
- 27:52Speaker 10: are really i think, high ceiling, high floor players at
- 27:57Speaker 10: this particular position at the edge, and especially Jared. Let's
- 28:00Speaker 10: start talking about Jared verse for a second. I mean,
- 28:03Speaker 10: Jared Versus is a powerhouse. He is as explosive as
- 28:07Speaker 10: it gets into the blockers, very heavy with his hands.
- 28:10Speaker 10: He's good against the run in the past. You know,
- 28:12Speaker 10: Dallas Turner is not going to be as good against
- 28:14Speaker 10: the run as Jared Versus. He has become a real
- 28:16Speaker 10: issue for tackles to handle the same way Aaron Donald
- 28:20Speaker 10: was this unusually powerful guy inside for his size. Jared
- 28:24Speaker 10: versus unusually powerful and twitchy with his upper body strength
- 28:28Speaker 10: against tackles who are much heavier than him. He's got
- 28:30Speaker 10: a great bull rush. He improved some of his rush
- 28:33Speaker 10: technique and rush moves headed into this year. So I
- 28:37Speaker 10: think going back to school, he really made himself a
- 28:39Speaker 10: more complete player. But I don't think you know, we
- 28:42Speaker 10: look how many of these things that we're showing you
- 28:45Speaker 10: or run plays. That's one of the things that separates him,
- 28:47Speaker 10: I think, from the other and why I think he's
- 28:49Speaker 10: going to be the first guy off the board personally
- 28:52Speaker 10: is that he is a two way defensive end with
- 28:54Speaker 10: tremendous toughness.
- 28:56Speaker 3: You know, I love hearing stuff like this because you
- 28:58Speaker 3: talk about Atlanta there at eight. We know Raheem Morris
- 29:01Speaker 3: kind of plays at hybrid thirty four. You know he's
- 29:03Speaker 3: gonna give you that that even look. But you want
- 29:05Speaker 3: to have somebody who can play the run in the
- 29:07Speaker 3: past like him, And you've got a Grady jer and
- 29:09Speaker 3: you've got David on Jamadi. You've got tackles who can
- 29:11Speaker 3: make plays. So somebody like him might be a perfect
- 29:15Speaker 3: fit right there.
- 29:16Speaker 2: And you talk about a.
- 29:17Speaker 3: Hybrid guy and this is a guy we both love
- 29:19Speaker 3: lands out of the University of Missouri, Jarius Robinson, and
- 29:22Speaker 3: this is everybody. But this is where I want you
- 29:24Speaker 3: to educate people, because he's listed in some places as
- 29:28Speaker 3: an edge, other places as a d tackle. A few
- 29:31Speaker 3: years ago we'd say he's a thirty four or five
- 29:33Speaker 3: tech team, but he's shown a little bit more than
- 29:36Speaker 3: that though, Like when you're evaluating a combo big man
- 29:40Speaker 3: like him, he's a big freaking guy, like two eighty five.
- 29:44Speaker 3: How do you kind of put him in there when
- 29:45Speaker 3: you're talking about the turners and the verses and chop Robinson.
- 29:48Speaker 10: It's a it's a great question. It's what I had
- 29:51Speaker 10: to do last year with Keon White, who ended up
- 29:52Speaker 10: going to New England out of Georgia Tech. Very similar
- 29:55Speaker 10: body type, similar gameplay. The Texas just signed Denico Autry
- 30:00Speaker 10: in every The talk in Houston on my sports talk
- 30:02Speaker 10: show is, well, wait a minute, is he gonna play edge?
- 30:04Speaker 10: Is he gonna play defensive tackle? He's a little small,
- 30:06Speaker 10: Dimico doesn't play a traditional odd front, So what are
- 30:09Speaker 10: you gonna do? You want to put good football players
- 30:12Speaker 10: on your team. Listen whether they're rushing or playing bass
- 30:15Speaker 10: off the edge. I think the way I envisioned it
- 30:17Speaker 10: Steve Is, I think he's gonna play bass edge on
- 30:20Speaker 10: first down and second down. On the rundowns. You want
- 30:23Speaker 10: that power off the edge. But then when it comes
- 30:25Speaker 10: down to pure sub package rushing, when we're in third
- 30:28Speaker 10: and six and you know they're gonna throw, we're gonna
- 30:30Speaker 10: bump them inside and use his quickness and that lean
- 30:33Speaker 10: mass to really overwhelm and out quick some of the guards.
- 30:36Speaker 10: So I think, you know, for me, it used to
- 30:38Speaker 10: be a bigger concern when you when you had players
- 30:40Speaker 10: and they didn't fit neatly into a bucket. Now they're
- 30:43Speaker 10: called hybrids. Now they're good. Before we used to call
- 30:45Speaker 10: them tweeners, tweeters, no good, hybrids great. So you know,
- 30:51Speaker 10: for me, Darius Robbins, whatever you want to do with them,
- 30:53Speaker 10: Can he play defense tackle? Sure, he can gain ten
- 30:55Speaker 10: more pounds and play there. He lost weight to play
- 30:58Speaker 10: d end and he's in great physical shape right now.
- 31:01Speaker 10: So I think it's a matter of what you wanted
- 31:03Speaker 10: to do, And that's why I think it's such a
- 31:04Speaker 10: good fit for the Lions. I keep plugging them in
- 31:07Speaker 10: with the lions of my monographing. I just think it
- 31:09Speaker 10: really fits when Aaron Glenn and Dan Campbell won up there,
- 31:12Speaker 10: and I think he fits into that front that they're looking.
- 31:15Speaker 3: For from Detroit too, So that would be huge.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Anybody to help Aiden Hutchinson Man, you get him somebody
- 31:21Speaker 1: else it is. It is going to be something to see. Lance.
- 31:24Speaker 1: I love that and I love that that's the way
- 31:25Speaker 1: you finished it because I was already thinking here and
- 31:28Speaker 1: this is what I wanted to follow up with. You
- 31:30Speaker 1: mentioned tweeers, and you mentioned those guys that you always
- 31:32Speaker 1: kind of go, well, do they if they don't have
- 31:34Speaker 1: a position, does that mean they they are a knock?
- 31:38Speaker 1: But then when we see people play it at the
- 31:40Speaker 1: highest level, say, I'm not making the comparison, but a
- 31:43Speaker 1: Chris Jones that can move inside and outside, a different
- 31:46Speaker 1: type of players that can do it. But if you
- 31:48Speaker 1: can't do it at that type of level, is it
- 31:51Speaker 1: a knock still? But if you if you don't get
- 31:54Speaker 1: into that elite category to where you can do multiple things, I.
- 31:58Speaker 10: Think it's tough. I mean, it really depends on who's
- 32:01Speaker 10: drafting him. And I always when I put grades on players.
- 32:04Speaker 10: My assumption is always that the team that views him
- 32:08Speaker 10: as the best particular fit with the scheme is who's
- 32:11Speaker 10: going to draft him. So if you have a zone
- 32:13Speaker 10: scheme running back or a gap scheme running back, I'm
- 32:16Speaker 10: assuming the offensive coordinator and the offensive play caller is
- 32:19Speaker 10: going to get with the general manager and say this
- 32:21Speaker 10: is the guy who fits, this is the guy who doesn't.
- 32:23Speaker 10: So it's going to make sense if they're going to
- 32:25Speaker 10: be on your board, if you have a game plan
- 32:27Speaker 10: for them. And I think there's something also to be
- 32:29Speaker 10: said for I think the best coaches understand how to
- 32:33Speaker 10: get talent acclimated and how to work around as special
- 32:36Speaker 10: players strengths and weaknesses COLLIDEJAKANTSI undersized defensive tackle, but he's
- 32:41Speaker 10: already showing flashes over there with the Bengals, And I think,
- 32:44Speaker 10: you know, is he small for a defensive tackle in
- 32:46Speaker 10: the first round? Absolutely? But can he do something that
- 32:50Speaker 10: makes the Bengals a good football team? Yes, he can
- 32:53Speaker 10: keep him out of the instances where he's going to
- 32:55Speaker 10: be double team by guards and centers and driven off
- 32:57Speaker 10: the ball and put him in positions to be a
- 32:59Speaker 10: pin trader. And the disruptor. So it's up to the
- 33:02Speaker 10: team to put the player in the right type of scheme,
- 33:05Speaker 10: in the right situation, and then for coaches to work
- 33:07Speaker 10: around the weaknesses and accentuate the strengths.
- 33:10Speaker 4: So let's let's stay here, let's stay in this pocket.
- 33:12Speaker 3: When we look at the number of quarterbacks, look, Minnesota
- 33:15Speaker 3: made to move you know, give us that second first
- 33:18Speaker 3: round draft pick to probably move up. So let's say
- 33:20Speaker 3: there's gonna be four to five quarterbacks.
- 33:22Speaker 2: We're talking about these edge rushers.
- 33:23Speaker 3: We also there's some elite wide receivers at the top end.
- 33:27Speaker 3: How is that going to affect the stacking of the
- 33:30Speaker 3: draft in terms of pushing talented players like maybe a
- 33:33Speaker 3: Darius Robinson or top Robinson to the back part of
- 33:37Speaker 3: the draft or some teams sitting there in their twenties
- 33:39Speaker 3: could be like Merry Christmas.
- 33:41Speaker 10: Yeah, So it's tricky. This draft seems to have a
- 33:44Speaker 10: flow now. Free agency has kind of tricked it out
- 33:47Speaker 10: a little bit. But it's gonna be an early you know,
- 33:49Speaker 10: it's gonna be early quarterbacks, right, and then I think
- 33:51Speaker 10: the next thing is going to be wide receivers. As
- 33:53Speaker 10: start to go, we'll see the top three yride. Receivers
- 33:56Speaker 10: come off the board with sprinklings of offensive tackles, so
- 33:58Speaker 10: it's gonna be quarterback followed by wide receiver. Then comes
- 34:01Speaker 10: offensive tackle with the chance of one rusher and Brock
- 34:05Speaker 10: Bowers being considered there. Now Brock is the wild card.
- 34:08Speaker 10: I don't know where Brock goes. I thought the point
- 34:10Speaker 10: that you know, Baldy made the point about maybe Rock
- 34:14Speaker 10: Bowers could go the Jets all of a sudden. That
- 34:16Speaker 10: makes a lot of sense when you think about what
- 34:18Speaker 10: they're trying to do with the all in approach for
- 34:20Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers. But you know, but then it's going to go.
- 34:23Speaker 10: It's going to take on an offensive tackle followed by cornerbacks,
- 34:28Speaker 10: and then here come the wide receivers led by Brian
- 34:30Speaker 10: Thomas again and Chop Robinson. The wild cards in this
- 34:33Speaker 10: one who could fall I think are a lot too
- 34:34Speaker 10: due to health, Chop Robinson due to inexperience, and then
- 34:38Speaker 10: Bowers just because tight ends are hard to slot in
- 34:41Speaker 10: the top ten, top twelve pix of the draft, and
- 34:43Speaker 10: I think Terry and Arnold versus Quinnon Mitchell is a
- 34:47Speaker 10: real wild card in terms of who's going to be
- 34:50Speaker 10: first corner off the board. I'm starting to think it's
- 34:52Speaker 10: going to be Mitchell one, Terry and Arnold two.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Man, Lance, we're going to get to these corners with
- 34:57Speaker 1: you on another show because we had a plan for it,
- 34:59Speaker 1: but man, we love these edge rusher so we had
- 35:01Speaker 1: to stick with that. We will get you to the corners,
- 35:03Speaker 1: I prom always. And I also like that you stole
- 35:06Speaker 1: my idea of rock Bowers to the Jets and gave
- 35:09Speaker 1: it to Baldy, so I appreciate that as well. But Lance,
- 35:11Speaker 1: thank you so much for the insight on all of
- 35:14Speaker 1: these guys. I like Dallas Derner, you like Jared Verst.
- 35:18Speaker 1: I love the way we're going because these two right here,
- 35:20Speaker 1: it might be the first defensive player off the board.
- 35:22Speaker 1: It's gonna be really, really, really fun to watch. We're
- 35:24Speaker 1: gonna have you back to talk corners.
- 35:26Speaker 10: Looking forward to it.
- 35:26Speaker 1: Thanks, guys, appreciate it. Coming up on the NFL Report,
- 35:29Speaker 1: Speaking of corners, how about Kenny Moore just got himself
- 35:33Speaker 1: a handsome bag to return to the Indianapolis Colts and
- 35:36Speaker 1: manned that nickel position. Steve, we love that spot. Love
- 35:39Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. We're gonna talk
- 35:41Speaker 1: to Kenny Moore after this on the NFL Report. Welcome
- 35:56Speaker 1: back to the NFL Report. James Palmer, Steve Witch with you,
- 35:58Speaker 1: and Steve Weird joined by our first repeat guests. Let's go.
- 36:03Speaker 1: And it's only fitting that Kenny Moore of the Indianapolis
- 36:07Speaker 1: Colts joins us as our first repeats team because Kenny,
- 36:10Speaker 1: you know what we think of your position on this show,
- 36:13Speaker 1: how much we love talking about the slock corner spot,
- 36:16Speaker 1: and how much we love to break down what you
- 36:19Speaker 1: do in the middle of the field. First though, I
- 36:21Speaker 1: have to say thank you for joining us, and secondly,
- 36:23Speaker 1: congratulations on the contract. What's the first thing that goes
- 36:28Speaker 1: through your mind once you know that is sign sealed,
- 36:30Speaker 1: delivered and you know that you're locked in. What goes
- 36:33Speaker 1: through Kenny Moore's mind?
- 36:35Speaker 12: First off, is great to be bat with you guys,
- 36:37Speaker 12: to be the first repeat that's pretty awesome. First of
- 36:42Speaker 12: that went through my mind whenever we got the contract,
- 36:45Speaker 12: you know, signs student to deliver. I was just thinking about,
- 36:49Speaker 12: you know, I'm ready to go work again because I
- 36:51Speaker 12: know I know where I'll be at, I know the
- 36:54Speaker 12: people that I'll be with. You know, I get to
- 36:55Speaker 12: see all my friends again. So from here we just
- 36:58Speaker 12: got to you know, put some banners up and go
- 37:01Speaker 12: back to work. So I'm fully excited to be with
- 37:04Speaker 12: the organization again. And then, like I said, just to
- 37:06Speaker 12: know you know where I'll be.
- 37:08Speaker 3: I love that you're excited to do with the organization again.
- 37:10Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean there was a lot of reports
- 37:12Speaker 3: at least that nobody was really certain that was going
- 37:14Speaker 3: to be the case. Were you Were you close with
- 37:16Speaker 3: any other teams?
- 37:17Speaker 12: I mean, yeah, there were negotiations and talks with you know,
- 37:21Speaker 12: quite a few teams. But the coach, they were in
- 37:25Speaker 12: it the entire way. They never pulled out. They never
- 37:29Speaker 12: uh you know, came into the talks you know later
- 37:32Speaker 12: later on in the h the process, but.
- 37:37Speaker 13: They stuck it out the entire way.
- 37:39Speaker 12: And you know, they believed in me and they wanted
- 37:41Speaker 12: me back now in the organization.
- 37:42Speaker 13: I'm glad to be back.
- 37:44Speaker 3: So so with that, I mean, they want you back
- 37:45Speaker 3: in the organization. What does it feel like as a
- 37:47Speaker 3: player though, to know you've had an impact on a
- 37:50Speaker 3: community and on a club as to where they invested
- 37:53Speaker 3: with you the way they did in three more years?
- 37:55Speaker 13: Oh man, that's a great question. They just know what
- 37:58Speaker 13: I give at this point.
- 38:00Speaker 12: You know, one thing of knowing you know, I guess
- 38:04Speaker 12: what a player does and knowing what he gives. I
- 38:07Speaker 12: think you know the world of that you know they
- 38:09Speaker 12: value and appreciate. You know, not only the player that
- 38:11Speaker 12: I am, but the person I am throughout a community
- 38:14Speaker 12: and how I'm able to make an impact and just
- 38:16Speaker 12: being the kind of guy that wants, you know, everybody
- 38:19Speaker 12: to be included. So yeah, it's a great image to
- 38:22Speaker 12: have on such a prestige and organization.
- 38:25Speaker 6: I love that.
- 38:26Speaker 1: And Kenny, you sign this contract three years, thirty million dollars,
- 38:29Speaker 1: yet you're the highest paid guy for about I don't
- 38:32Speaker 1: know a day, couple of days, and Daron Johnson gets
- 38:35Speaker 1: paid too, and it's right up there with yours. Well,
- 38:38Speaker 1: I won't know, does that.
- 38:39Speaker 6: Bug you at all?
- 38:40Speaker 1: But also, what is it like seeing you guys in
- 38:42Speaker 1: this role when I talk to defensive coordinators and how
- 38:45Speaker 1: important it is that you guys are getting your due
- 38:48Speaker 1: playing this position.
- 38:50Speaker 12: I like to say, you know, we're just pioneers of
- 38:52Speaker 12: the position. You know, we wear the heavy.
- 38:54Speaker 6: Hat and a hard hat.
- 38:56Speaker 12: We do a lot of things that made a lot
- 38:59Speaker 12: of things come together, and uh, you know, for this
- 39:02Speaker 12: position to be rotating that safety to be able to blitch,
- 39:05Speaker 12: to be able to cover, and to be able to
- 39:08Speaker 12: you know, read zones and read the quarterback. And it's
- 39:11Speaker 12: a lot of things that we got to be able
- 39:13Speaker 12: to do to be able to be uh inside quarterback
- 39:17Speaker 12: or a slot cornerback, you know, the outside corners. Everybody
- 39:20Speaker 12: can't do it. And so you know, to run whenever
- 39:23Speaker 12: he whenever he made.
- 39:26Speaker 13: The jump to be the next highest paid it was
- 39:29Speaker 13: really great for him. It was great for the position.
- 39:31Speaker 12: And I think he and I and many more to come,
- 39:34Speaker 12: you know, we got to walk for you know, the
- 39:35Speaker 12: others to run you know later in the day, later
- 39:38Speaker 12: and later in football. So I think we're just making
- 39:41Speaker 12: history here and you know we're all just trying to
- 39:43Speaker 12: play the position at the at the highest level.
- 39:46Speaker 13: We just need you know, more Nichols to do the
- 39:48Speaker 13: same thing.
- 39:48Speaker 3: Yeah, this is music car eers because like James said,
- 39:50Speaker 3: we we love that slot dB position, especially the time
- 39:54Speaker 3: when you seeing like you know, the regular safeties are
- 39:56Speaker 3: are floating out there on the market like they are,
- 39:58Speaker 3: so teams are reprioritized. Well, you talked earlier, Kenny about
- 40:02Speaker 3: saying you're back in Indianapolis with your friends.
- 40:04Speaker 2: The Colts have re signed.
- 40:06Speaker 3: So many players that were free agents there, going from
- 40:09Speaker 3: Zaia Franklin to some of the players like that, to
- 40:11Speaker 3: Michael Pittman, the wide receiver. And what about you know,
- 40:16Speaker 3: bringing back so many players, especially a guy like Pittman
- 40:19Speaker 3: who you probably bang with a lot in practice.
- 40:21Speaker 6: He said, what is it like?
- 40:23Speaker 2: Yeah, bringing back so many guys who you know, who've
- 40:25Speaker 2: been there before.
- 40:26Speaker 13: Yeah, just having a continuity.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Uh.
- 40:28Speaker 12: You know, I was there a couple of years in
- 40:30Speaker 12: before Michael Pittman Junior came into the Coast facility, and you.
- 40:33Speaker 13: Know, I'm able to watch him grow over the years.
- 40:37Speaker 12: You know, I was there when zay Yere was on
- 40:39Speaker 12: the brink of going to another team, you know, getting
- 40:41Speaker 12: cut his rookie year. To now he's been extended. It's
- 40:45Speaker 12: been great, and his role has been, you know, the
- 40:47Speaker 12: leader of the defense. He's been you know, with myself
- 40:50Speaker 12: and Buck, you know, we're all just trying to do
- 40:52Speaker 12: this thing together, and if we're gonna win, we want
- 40:54Speaker 12: to win together. So we don't want to see anybody leave.
- 40:57Speaker 12: We want to make sure that, you know, we stay
- 40:59Speaker 12: accountable to each other and make sure we put the
- 41:01Speaker 12: hard work in you know, day in and day out.
- 41:03Speaker 13: And we can go out here and win some games together.
- 41:06Speaker 12: You know, the guys that I'm actually proud of, you know,
- 41:09Speaker 12: as the people that they are to you know, seeing
- 41:11Speaker 12: them grow.
- 41:12Speaker 1: You guys won some games. I'll say right here on
- 41:14Speaker 1: this show, Kenny, I thought your head coach should have
- 41:16Speaker 1: been Coach of the Year and what Shane Stikeen was
- 41:18Speaker 1: able to do in his first year in Indianapolis. Now,
- 41:21Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is out of the building, even though he
- 41:23Speaker 1: played great subbing in for Anthony Richardson throughout the course
- 41:27Speaker 1: of the season. Now this is Ars team. What have
- 41:30Speaker 1: you seen or heard or talked to your quarterback about
- 41:33Speaker 1: moving forward with him being the guy and the face
- 41:36Speaker 1: of your franchise. If you're going to win more of
- 41:38Speaker 1: these games in year two with your head coach and
- 41:41Speaker 1: your quarterback.
- 41:42Speaker 12: I think he has enough people in his ear, you know,
- 41:44Speaker 12: telling him of what we need. And I'm pretty sure
- 41:46Speaker 12: he knows exactly, you know, the position that he's in.
- 41:49Speaker 12: They've given him an incredible position to be in, to
- 41:52Speaker 12: lead the coach, to lead the.
- 41:54Speaker 13: City and Indianapolis to win.
- 41:57Speaker 12: So I talked to him on the day that I
- 42:00Speaker 12: I'm back, and he was fired up to have me back,
- 42:02Speaker 12: and I was just saying, way, just having him as
- 42:04Speaker 12: my partner back and him there, you know, being supportive.
- 42:07Speaker 12: But I'm ready to go and I'm ready to be
- 42:09Speaker 12: supportive of him this spring as he gets back on
- 42:12Speaker 12: the field and see what we can do together.
- 42:14Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 42:15Speaker 3: Look, you've made some more fans in Indianapolis with a
- 42:17Speaker 3: good Samaritan act the other day taking somebody whose car
- 42:19Speaker 3: broke down to the shop and give me some money
- 42:21Speaker 3: to buy some tools to change his tire. So good
- 42:23Speaker 3: for him. Kenny Moore, thank you so much. I wish
- 42:26Speaker 3: you had more time, but again thanks for joining us.
- 42:28Speaker 1: Again.
- 42:28Speaker 2: Congratulations on everything.
- 42:31Speaker 10: First repeat so much, absolutely so.
- 42:35Speaker 3: When we come back on the NFL Report, you know
- 42:36Speaker 3: you want to take your son and get.
- 42:37Speaker 2: His haircut like Patrick Mahomes.
- 42:39Speaker 3: Well, coming up, we'll be joined by someone who can
- 42:41Speaker 3: tell you how you can get that type of crispy
- 42:44Speaker 3: cut and enjoy reading.
- 42:46Speaker 2: Books at the same time. Interesting stuff on.
- 42:49Speaker 14: The NFL Report. Welcome back to the NFL Report.
- 43:03Speaker 3: One of the many highlights of Super Bowl Week in
- 43:05Speaker 3: Las Vegas was an event that had nothing to do
- 43:08Speaker 3: with the outcome of the Chiefs forty nine ers Matchup.
- 43:11Speaker 3: NFL Inspired Change, in conjunction with the Clark County Library District,
- 43:16Speaker 3: hosted a grand opening to celebrate the launch of Barbershop Books.
- 43:21Speaker 1: Now.
- 43:21Speaker 3: This is a nonprofit organization that focuses on creating child
- 43:25Speaker 3: friendly reading spaces for boys in barbershops.
- 43:29Speaker 1: Let's take a look.
- 43:32Speaker 15: We are here today because the NFL and partnership with
- 43:36Speaker 15: the NFL Foundation have helped Barbershop Books come to Las Vegas.
- 43:42Speaker 16: Welcome, Welcome to the Las Vegas Park County Library. This
- 43:48Speaker 16: is a great day and it's an incredible honor to
- 43:51Speaker 16: be hosting the kickoff of Barbershop Books to our Las
- 43:55Speaker 16: Vegas community today. The Barbershop Books literacy program is just
- 44:00Speaker 16: another stellar example of bringing the library to more places
- 44:04Speaker 16: where people gather.
- 44:06Speaker 15: We're partnering with the Las Vegas Clark County Library District
- 44:10Speaker 15: to create.
- 44:10Speaker 1: Child family reading spaces and ten.
- 44:13Speaker 15: Barbershops right here in Las Vegas.
- 44:17Speaker 1: We're going to be bringing together one hundred and fifty kids.
- 44:21Speaker 10: That's a lot of kids.
- 44:22Speaker 15: We'll have some reading stations, and then we're also going
- 44:25Speaker 15: to be given away free haircuts and three books.
- 44:31Speaker 1: To read.
- 44:32Speaker 17: That one I've been in the education library sector for
- 44:36Speaker 17: almost thirty years. Which has driven me in education and
- 44:39Speaker 17: libraries and children has been just the impact and the
- 44:42Speaker 17: change that literacy can have on kids.
- 44:47Speaker 3: Are there, we go, what a great project, JP, And
- 44:50Speaker 3: now we are joined by the founder of barbershop Books,
- 44:53Speaker 3: that is Alvin Erbie. Alvin Banks are joining us here
- 44:56Speaker 3: from New York and just tell us this concept of
- 44:59Speaker 3: barbershop books.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Where did it start?
- 45:01Speaker 10: So?
- 45:02Speaker 18: I was teaching first grade in the Bronx and there
- 45:05Speaker 18: was a barber shop across the street from my school.
- 45:08Speaker 18: So one day after school, I'm getting a haircut in
- 45:10Speaker 18: one of my students, you know, comes into the shop,
- 45:12Speaker 18: plops down on a sofa.
- 45:14Speaker 1: And he's just kind of you know, auntsy, looking bored.
- 45:17Speaker 18: And all I can keep thinking is like, he should
- 45:20Speaker 18: be practicing his.
- 45:21Speaker 13: Reading right now.
- 45:22Speaker 18: And I wish I had a children's book, but I didn't.
- 45:25Speaker 18: So it was really that chance encounter with one of
- 45:27Speaker 18: my students, Alvin.
- 45:29Speaker 1: I love the piece that we watched, I said, I
- 45:31Speaker 1: have an eleven year old. I think I saw a
- 45:32Speaker 1: couple of Captain Underpants books, a lot of different books
- 45:34Speaker 1: that he reads at home as well. As we were
- 45:37Speaker 1: looking through all this different stuff featured there. You do
- 45:41Speaker 1: a lot of different things, and you have taken this
- 45:43Speaker 1: to a grand scale. I mean, you've done Ted talks,
- 45:46Speaker 1: You've been in the New York Times, You've been on
- 45:48Speaker 1: you know, Oprah's type stuff. Where do you want this
- 45:51Speaker 1: to go? Because you do have grand aspirations, So how
- 45:55Speaker 1: far in your mind do you think this could go?
- 45:58Speaker 18: I wanted in every barbershop where their children. You know,
- 46:02Speaker 18: I think that over the next five years, we'd like
- 46:05Speaker 18: to get to twenty five hundred barber shops.
- 46:08Speaker 10: But I think that that's.
- 46:09Speaker 4: Really just the beginning.
- 46:12Speaker 18: I think there's there's so many opportunities with partners to
- 46:15Speaker 18: create spaces in the community that inspire children to read
- 46:20Speaker 18: for fun.
- 46:21Speaker 3: Well, Alan, you know, look part of this, you know
- 46:23Speaker 3: you're you're here on the show because your partners with
- 46:25Speaker 3: the NFL and trying to get this done, and you
- 46:28Speaker 3: just talked about getting in twenty five hundred barber shops.
- 46:31Speaker 3: What does kind of the sponsorship and then being partners
- 46:34Speaker 3: with a huge brand like the NFL do in terms
- 46:38Speaker 3: of making headway for you to reach your goal.
- 46:41Speaker 1: It's really important.
- 46:42Speaker 18: I think that you know, it signals to other you know,
- 46:46Speaker 18: organizations and entities that this is is work worth investing in.
- 46:53Speaker 18: And I think that.
- 46:55Speaker 4: What it did is it created a model.
- 46:58Speaker 19: Right many of our cities have of local football teams,
- 47:02Speaker 19: and so I think that, you know, it creates an
- 47:05Speaker 19: opportunity for us to say, hey, look at this really
- 47:08Speaker 19: great example of what's possible right when you come together
- 47:12Speaker 19: with Barbershop Books and with amazing partners like the local library.
- 47:16Speaker 1: I love that Altu real quick were tight on time.
- 47:19Speaker 1: When Roger Goodell shows up in Las Vegas with you
- 47:22Speaker 1: guys to read with kids, what impact does that make
- 47:25Speaker 1: and what did you see from Roger Well?
- 47:27Speaker 19: I mean one I was was.
- 47:30Speaker 18: A little surprised, but also excited that he took the time.
- 47:34Speaker 4: I think it signals again that this was.
- 47:36Speaker 10: Something that really was important to the NFL and.
- 47:39Speaker 18: To him for him to take time out and I
- 47:41Speaker 18: saw him he was having a good time, you know.
- 47:43Speaker 18: So I think it was just an impactful event all
- 47:46Speaker 18: around the kids, the adults, everybody out whatever.
- 47:51Speaker 3: The founder of Barbershop Books with a fantastic project. I
- 47:54Speaker 3: was just in an inglewood in Ingwood, California to get
- 47:56Speaker 3: my fade tied up. I'm a little crispy right now.
- 47:58Speaker 3: The other day, and then we know books there the
- 48:00Speaker 3: kids in the shop, so we got to get some books. Alvin,
- 48:03Speaker 3: it's my barbershop. Thank you so much for let's go.
- 48:06Speaker 3: Let's go all you love it all right? Coming up
- 48:10Speaker 3: one day here on the NFL Report JP. You know
- 48:13Speaker 3: that handsome guy in the great suit, he's gonna be
- 48:14Speaker 3: on vacation, so that ugly guy in the blue shuit.
- 48:17Speaker 3: I'm gonna be joined by Judy Mattista from the league
- 48:19Speaker 3: meetings down in Orlando seven pm Eastern. Also, remember it's
- 48:23Speaker 3: the podcast. And by the way, people, that guy right there,
- 48:26Speaker 3: Jay Palmer, he just jumped out of an airplane.
- 48:29Speaker 1: I did. I did jump out of an airplane. You'll
- 48:32Speaker 1: see that coming up soon, Steeve, have him blast in
- 48:34Speaker 1: Orlando with Judy. You're gonna have him dynamite lineup excited
- 48:37Speaker 1: to listen while I'm on vacation