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Episode 8: How to Navigate a Career Pivot in The AI Era And Why Self-Gratitude is The Only Answer · Dots and Dreams

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  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever felt like such a failure that the idea
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  SPEAKER_00: of any company hiring you seemed impossible?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, everything you've ever done in your career was worth absolutely nothing.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly how I felt after every single email rejection,
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  SPEAKER_00: every single interview process,
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  SPEAKER_00: really during the entire 14 months on the job market since AI entered the picture.
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  SPEAKER_00: Between January 2025 and February 2026, I felt completely lost.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd pump myself up.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd apply to several jobs.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd leverage the heck out of my network.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd show up.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd over prep.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd listen to podcasts with people I'd be interviewing with.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd go all out.
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  SPEAKER_00: And each and every time, I'd feel like this is just the death of my career.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what I really couldn't name back then was that I actually had the space
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  SPEAKER_00: to think, to reflect on what's next.
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  SPEAKER_00: I actually had space to sit in and really see where I wanted to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I wasn't using it because nobody teaches us how.
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  SPEAKER_00: Society doesn't give us permission to pause.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was running the marathon of finding either exactly what I had
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  SPEAKER_00: or just finding what's the next thing, but I was missing the point entirely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Dots and Dreams,
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  SPEAKER_00: a podcast about the real,
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  SPEAKER_00: vulnerable, and my sometimes in the moment stories of life transitions.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm Jenny Sidorova, and I've been an immigrant, marketer, mother, and serial reinventor.
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  SPEAKER_00: And today,
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to talk about why self-gratitude is the only way to get through
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  SPEAKER_00: a career pivot in the post-AI era.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's summer 2025.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm on the verge of a burnout from my job search.
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  SPEAKER_00: And while I felt like my energy with the job search was just dying out,
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  SPEAKER_00: I felt like I needed something uplifting and something with community.
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  SPEAKER_00: I must have seen an ad on Instagram or something
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  SPEAKER_00: because only social media would have led me to actually read a self-help book called
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  SPEAKER_00: The Magic.
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  SPEAKER_00: By Rhonda Byron.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's more known for her book The Secret, but I didn't read that one.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not usually into that type of stuff, but I was intrigued.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm part of this expat woman's mama's group here where I live in the southwest of France.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I thought, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm about to go to Ireland with my family for three weeks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's see if I can get a group of women together and we can all read
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  SPEAKER_00: the book together and hold each other accountable because it's basically 28 days
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  SPEAKER_00: of blessings, gratitude exercises that you do guided as you read the book.
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  SPEAKER_00: I threw a message out there in the WhatsApp group.
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  SPEAKER_00: There were three women who were up for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so we were a small group of four.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next thing I know, I was leading this project because that's what it was, a project.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I created a WhatsApp group with the picture being the book cover.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we just went for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: There were a few things we had to do as pre-work before we actually started day one
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  SPEAKER_00: of 28 days of exercises.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of the pre-work exercises was simply to write down three things you are grateful
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  SPEAKER_00: for about yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever done that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever looked in the mirror and asked what am I amazing at
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  SPEAKER_00: and what am I grateful to myself for?
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  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever tried to do that when you're feeling at the lowest of the lows
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  SPEAKER_00: with your self-esteem?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I haven't.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had never had to do that because my self-esteem had never been that low.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I forced myself to do it and what I wrote down was I'm grateful to myself
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  SPEAKER_00: for never giving up even when I feel really defeated and like there's no direction.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm grateful for my resilience and I'm grateful to myself for trying
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  SPEAKER_00: to be optimistic even when it feels really difficult.
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  SPEAKER_00: It felt forced.
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  SPEAKER_00: It felt super unnatural.
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  SPEAKER_00: But those three gratitudes would make a huge impact at some point.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was no way that I could have known that when I actually wrote them down.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got laid off in December of 2024, and it was towards the end of my second maternity leave.
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  SPEAKER_00: The funny thing is,
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  SPEAKER_00: though, it didn't feel devastating at first because, well, I kind of expected it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I knew what the company was going through.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was part of the management team.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when the CEO left a few months before I got laid off, I saw the writing on the wall.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I went into my job search being really confident and thinking,
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  SPEAKER_00: well, I'm going to look for a new job and find something great.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have the full picture yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know how different the market had become.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that AI was reshaping hiring and reshaping applying for jobs.
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  SPEAKER_00: This was towards the beginnings of the democratization of chat GPT.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't have the full picture.
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  SPEAKER_00: I quickly did.
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  SPEAKER_00: It took me about a month of applying to jobs to realize this is like no other job market.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I have experienced six others.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not like I've been in the same company for 10 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the plan that I had made,
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  SPEAKER_00: which was let's get through Christmas and then seriously start to look when
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  SPEAKER_00: the kids go back to daycare and school.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of assumed I would land something fast because I had in the past.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've had to look for a job many times in my career,
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  SPEAKER_00: and it's usually taken me anywhere from four to six months.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where the false hope here came from was Was really the relief
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  SPEAKER_00: of already having something after maternity leave.
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  SPEAKER_00: I went on maternity leave relishing the fact that I had something to come back to.
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  SPEAKER_00: I felt like I didn't have to stress.
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  SPEAKER_00: I could go on maternity leave,
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  SPEAKER_00: enjoy my time with Victor,
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  SPEAKER_00: who I knew would be my last baby, and then come back to DX.
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  SPEAKER_00: I figured worst case scenario,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll come back, work for a year and then start looking for something.
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  SPEAKER_00: But there was a certain false confidence that was created from the fact
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  SPEAKER_00: that I had this kind of excitement over coming back again.
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  SPEAKER_00: With a job after maternity leave.
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  SPEAKER_00: That sentiment very much clouded me.
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  SPEAKER_00: So eight months into the job market,
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  SPEAKER_00: I felt like I was at my breaking moment right before we were going to Ireland.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that was kind of when I felt like this is a square into a circle situation.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is not working.
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  SPEAKER_00: Max and I in Ireland had a lot of conversations and we kind of looked
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  SPEAKER_00: at our larger life, our surroundings.
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  SPEAKER_00: We started thinking that maybe moving is the right thing for us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we need to open the pool of opportunity.
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  SPEAKER_00: That actually gave me a lot of excitement and I went ahead and continued looking for something.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now pivoted to cities like Amsterdam and Dublin, in office, hybrid roles.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when I think back on the 14 months of my job search,
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  SPEAKER_00: what comes to mind is that the time off was not chosen.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's probably one of the difficult things
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  SPEAKER_00: with getting laid off is it's really forced on you and it was really forced on me.
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  SPEAKER_00: The burnout didn't really have a single moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like an ongoing bucket of water with drops being added every interview process.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every time a rejection email came, it was like an additional drop of water.
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  SPEAKER_00: And every single week with those heavy applications,
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  SPEAKER_00: one too many networking calls, and then boom, the bucket of water just tipped.
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  SPEAKER_00: That moment was when I kind of said, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_00: I need to stop completely applying to jobs.
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  SPEAKER_00: I need to stop even looking at job descriptions.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that was when I really pivoted into...
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  SPEAKER_00: What I've been referring to as the pull.
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  SPEAKER_00: Things that give me energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Things that make me excited.
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  SPEAKER_00: This creative process.
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  SPEAKER_00: The community of other creatives.
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  SPEAKER_00: The spontaneity behind it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was already kind of quietly overriding the square peg feeling from the job search.
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  SPEAKER_00: And leaning fully into that really helped me understand.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that the fact that I did this magic exercise that I was leaning into
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  SPEAKER_00: the self-gratitude and gratitude in general mindset for 28 days last August is
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  SPEAKER_00: It was something that I really grabbed onto in order to attempt to save myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: I already knew that gratitude was something that humans cannot experience at
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  SPEAKER_00: the same time as they experience negativity.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I moved to Paris in 2017,
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  SPEAKER_00: I also kind of needed at that moment daily reminders of things that I'm grateful for
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  SPEAKER_00: to get through what was really hard at that time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the summer 2025 and those daily blessings while I was taking a breather from
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  SPEAKER_00: the job market, it really helped me have a reset.
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  SPEAKER_00: Part of the process I had to do during that book was also...
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  SPEAKER_00: Approach something that was really difficult with a gratitude mindset.
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  SPEAKER_00: The book has you list 10 blessings towards a difficult situation in your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Naturally, I chose unemployment because that's what was front and center at that time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And four of the blessings that I will just share here from my list of 10 were...
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  SPEAKER_00: Wednesdays with my daughter, Lena, and Fridays with my son, Victor.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lena has never been to a Wednesday's care program because of my unemployment.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been able to be with her since there's no school here on Wednesdays.
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  SPEAKER_00: And And we can save some money with Victor not being in daycare on Fridays.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I get to have my day with each kid.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also, networking really forced me to be vulnerable.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I was also so humbled by how many people said yes and talked to me
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  SPEAKER_00: and shared their story with me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would have never reached out to those people if it wasn't for my unemployment.
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  SPEAKER_00: I put AI on my list because I had the space to learn.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I got to teach myself a lot, test a lot, and actually apply it to my own job search.
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  SPEAKER_00: I even built a website.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got to do so much with AI that I would have never had time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And finally, I was really grateful for my husband, Max.
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  SPEAKER_00: Unemployment forced us to have a lot of hard conversations about moving careers in our 40s.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Applying this lens of gratitude to the situation that was the hardest in my life at
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  SPEAKER_00: that moment was a really interesting experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it reminded me of the power of gratitude because I have often in times
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  SPEAKER_00: of life difficulties leaned on gratitude.
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  SPEAKER_00: This self-gratitude mindset kind of became my lifeboat.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think it's truly the only way to approach a career pivot post the AI era.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why do I keep saying post?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, because AI is here.
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  SPEAKER_00: So in my mind, we are now living the post.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are already living the aftermath of AI entering our lives and My next step kind
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  SPEAKER_00: of became an entire career pivot, much more than just looking for a job.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's really interesting to think back to what turned this process
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  SPEAKER_00: from I got laid off, I'm looking to a job into this is a much larger journey.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am sharing this with you because so many people are impacted and either forced
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  SPEAKER_00: to rethink their careers or just willingly go through a pivot.
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  SPEAKER_00: I see it all over my Substack and LinkedIn feeds.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know my own friends are asking themselves so many questions
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  SPEAKER_00: about what makes them happy, what they want to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people actually...
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't have the strength to ask themselves those questions if they are already in
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  SPEAKER_00: a full-time role because it does take a lot of strength to carve out space
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  SPEAKER_00: to actually deal with this topic.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to lie.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ever since I leaned into the space that I have been forcefully given, I actually...
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm amazed at what has come out of it and how much of
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  SPEAKER_00: a more impactful journey it has been on me.
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  SPEAKER_00: But leaning into the space has been extremely difficult.
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  SPEAKER_00: It took me 14 months of square in a circle momentum to finally say,
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  SPEAKER_00: Jenny, you have been given this space.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lean into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lean into the pull, but also lean into the space.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I want to share my recipe to really help others because I know there are
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  SPEAKER_00: so many people going through this right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here are three ways I recommend approaching a career pivot right now
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  SPEAKER_00: and all are guided by self-gratitude because as I said up front,
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  SPEAKER_00: I really think this is the only way you can really get through a career pivot
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  SPEAKER_00: in this post-AI era.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the first thing is to constantly pamper yourself with self-gratitude.
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  SPEAKER_00: The second thing is being grateful often leads to altruism.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number two is be altruistic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number three is don't fight the imposed space.
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  SPEAKER_00: See it as a gift.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let it linger as long as possible and be grateful for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to go into all three of these.
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  SPEAKER_00: The first one, constantly pamper yourself with self-gratitude.
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  SPEAKER_00: That list that I wrote down,
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  SPEAKER_00: the one where I wrote down those three things I was grateful for,
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  SPEAKER_00: the difficulty of looking at myself in the mirror
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  SPEAKER_00: and writing those three things down,
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  SPEAKER_00: that list ended up being pinned to my wall and I look at it regularly.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remind myself of my resilience,
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  SPEAKER_00: my inability to give up, and always kind of attempting to be optimistic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also, I have this post-it right in front of my computer that says you are
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  SPEAKER_00: a rare pearl talent because I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am a rare pearl talent and I have not taken that post-it off for over a year.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really important to remember what you are grateful to yourself for because by
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  SPEAKER_00: By doing that,
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  SPEAKER_00: you're actually tapping into memories that are not top of mind when you are in
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  SPEAKER_00: a career pivot.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't remember all of the things you have accomplished.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you're not actively interviewing,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I have not been since February, you're not telling your story.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when you don't tell your story, you forget everything you've done.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we still live in this polarized society where the second I open LinkedIn,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm The second thing is be altruistic.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm
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  SPEAKER_00: This one is really easy to do if you are in a grateful mindset because
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  SPEAKER_00: when you're grateful, you want to give.
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  SPEAKER_00: You want to give without asking for anything in return.
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  SPEAKER_00: A specific example that pops into my mind is this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm slowly getting messages and feedback from people telling me that they feel seen
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  SPEAKER_00: with certain episodes or they too are living a difficult moment and this story
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  SPEAKER_00: that I told spoke to them and I'm realizing from these messages
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  SPEAKER_00: that they fill my cup like nothing else right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I find myself really wanting to Be altruistic and give my time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I recently received a message from a friend who was struggling to make a decision
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  SPEAKER_00: about a job that she didn't want to take,
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  SPEAKER_00: but on paper it would have been good and it would have been helpful
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  SPEAKER_00: for her family finances.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just found myself leaving her a five-minute message
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  SPEAKER_00: about why she shouldn't take that job,
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  SPEAKER_00: going back to something that she wrote,
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  SPEAKER_00: pulling a quote out of the article for her because she needed the reminder.
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  SPEAKER_00: I told her, just read what you wrote and you will know you can't take that job.
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  SPEAKER_00: It felt so good to have the confidence to tell her that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just find myself lately carving out time for people sometimes
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  SPEAKER_00: that I've never even met on Substack or someone who reaches out
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  SPEAKER_00: to me via this networking mentoring program that I'm in.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just find myself wanting to give my time to others because so many of us are going
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  SPEAKER_00: through this and I feel like I have unlocked some Really important realizations that
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  SPEAKER_00: if someone who is at the start of the process I was in The third
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  SPEAKER_00: thing is
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  SPEAKER_00: if you're grateful and you're being altruistic, let yourself simmer in this space.
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  SPEAKER_00: The space that you're given,
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  SPEAKER_00: if you got laid off, it's so tempting to just jump in and find a solution.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that is what I did for 14 months.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to tell you not to do it,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I do wish that I had started to sit in this space a little bit sooner
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  SPEAKER_00: because it's when you're in the space that the shift actually happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the shift is what moves you from fear and desperation,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is really what you go into a job search with when you're going into it right
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  SPEAKER_00: after a layoff.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you can make that shift take you towards a place of excitement and confidence.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that is really where I feel I am now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's incredible because I can actually feel the shift in my energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't have all the magic solutions.
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  SPEAKER_00: I haven't suddenly stumbled upon a magic wand.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are still many down moments happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are still a lot that I'm dealing with internally.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when it comes to Thinking about my career,
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  SPEAKER_00: I suddenly now have this space for excitement and confidence because of stepping out
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  SPEAKER_00: of applications, stepping out of a solution, stepping out.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I finally let the space sit and exist and approached what's next from a place
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  SPEAKER_00: of what brings me joy, I stepped into what I'm doing now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where am I today?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because as I said, I don't have all the answers.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today, I'm still very much in reflection mode.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm still pivoting.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm still kind of sitting in the space.
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  SPEAKER_00: But things do feel like they are slowly starting to happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm actually really excited to start the process of looking for full time work so
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  SPEAKER_00: that my family and I can eventually move.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is the first time since I got laid off that I can say those words.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am excited to start the process for looking for a job.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have never felt excited about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not because the past opportunities were not exciting.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, it's because the energy was not there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Internally,
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  SPEAKER_00: I hadn't done the work yet,
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  SPEAKER_00: so I couldn't be coming at it from a place of excitement.
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  SPEAKER_00: And today, I feel that I slowly, finally am.
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  SPEAKER_00: The word slowly is important because I'm not one to do things slowly.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: But my energy is telling me that this needs to be a slow process.
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  SPEAKER_00: I also just have this general feeling of positivity that I honestly have never had.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm convinced that it's this overarching self-gratitude
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  SPEAKER_00: that has gotten me here paired with leaning into projects that give me energy
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  SPEAKER_00: and stepping away from the job search.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's a negative situation you found yourself in
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  SPEAKER_00: where self-gratitude really changed how you moved through it?
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