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'MACK DADDY' Diddy' FORCED TO USE $1 CANS OF FISH AS JAIL CURRENCY, DEMANDS TRIAL DELAY · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace mac Daddy. Yeah you heard
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Speaker 1: me right.
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Speaker 2: Seawan Combs aka Diddy, now humiliated as he is forced
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Speaker 2: to use one dollar cans of mackerel fish.
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Speaker 1: As jail currency.
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Speaker 2: What happened to the private jets, the private chef, all
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Speaker 2: of those minions at his beck and call? He is
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Speaker 2: dealing in mac mackerel? This in a bombshell bid for
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Speaker 2: a trial delay. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 3: Jailed rapper and musician Sean Puffy Combs hit with more
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Speaker 3: charges amidst a federal sex trafficking case that alleges the
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Speaker 3: musician use his power and status in the music industry
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Speaker 3: to coerce unknowing victims.
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past the fase at this juncture.
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Speaker 2: There is now a third superseding indictment to add more
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Speaker 2: charges because we are learning more about an alleged shooting
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Speaker 2: that went down in a studio. But first, can we
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Speaker 2: get to the canned mackerel?
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Speaker 4: What?
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Speaker 1: Okay? Listen to this?
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Speaker 5: In made three seven four or five two dash zero
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Speaker 5: five to four, otherwise known as Sean Diddy Combs will
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Speaker 5: be housed in four North at the Metropolitan Detention Center
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Speaker 5: for at least forty eight more days if his trial
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Speaker 5: begins on time. Colms has spent most of his time
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Speaker 5: in the unit's visiting room with his lawyers or the
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Speaker 5: video call room with his laptop that cannot access the
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Speaker 5: Internet to work through the mountain of evidence that prosecutors
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Speaker 5: have turned over. Colms exorbitant monetary value hasn't gotten him anywhere.
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Speaker 5: Behind bars, forced to use a more humiliating currency instead
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Speaker 5: of cash, in mates trade packets of mackerel known as max,
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Speaker 5: on sale at the commissary for one dollar each.
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Speaker 1: Boo hoo, poor diddy.
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Speaker 2: All those millions and millions, some people say, a billion
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Speaker 2: dollars of net worth and he's trading cans of mackerel
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Speaker 2: for favors behind bars. Got an all star panel lined up,
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Speaker 2: but first straight out to crime stories investigative reporters Sydney Summer,
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Speaker 2: Sydney canned mackerel.
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Speaker 4: What great, Nancy. That's the only form of currency that
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Speaker 4: they can come up with behind bars at the Metropolitan
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Speaker 4: Detention Center. So there's obviously no exchange of cash. And
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Speaker 4: from what we've heard before, we know that the commissary
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Speaker 4: is pretty strict they don't really allow you to stock
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Speaker 4: pile things. You can only spend one hundred and eighty
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Speaker 4: dollars in commissary every two weeks. So the inmate could
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Speaker 4: come up with the system where they trade these packets
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Speaker 4: of tuna as a dollar. They cost a dollar in
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Speaker 4: the commissary. So if you needed something that would have
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Speaker 4: cost five dollars, but they wouldn't let you buy it
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Speaker 4: from commissary, you can hand me five packets of mackerel instead.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So Shawn Corimbs is now a.
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Speaker 4: Mac dealer, apparently, Nancy.
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Speaker 2: Okay, First, Sydney, let me correct you. It's a subtle
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Speaker 2: but important distinction. Mackerel is not tuna. But that said,
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Speaker 2: the gist of your reporting is correct. Now, joining me
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Speaker 2: a special guest, Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, former Associate Warden, MDC
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Speaker 2: in Brooklyn, former Senior warden with the US Department of Justice,
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Speaker 2: Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder president a New Daylight Foundation,
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Speaker 2: author of who Are You See It? Say It, Seize It?
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Speaker 2: And you can find him at New dlightfoundation dot com.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, So, Shawn Corimbs is now a macdealer.
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Speaker 2: Did you realize that the humiliation he must be going
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Speaker 2: through all those millions, all those designers closed drenched in jewelry,
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Speaker 2: dope chains.
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Speaker 1: Around his neck.
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Speaker 2: They cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and now he's
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Speaker 2: shuffling cans of mackerel. Really, did you know about the
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Speaker 2: black market currency of dealing in mac behind bars?
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Speaker 6: Well, as they say in prison, commissary is currency, and
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Speaker 6: a lot of those individuals, once they immersed themselves in
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Speaker 6: the jail of prison culture, they used commissary to pay
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Speaker 6: off debts to get favors. I know they were early
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Speaker 6: reporting when he first got there, the inmates for doing
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Speaker 6: his laundry for him.
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Speaker 7: So they use those items.
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Speaker 2: What who who wait whoa whoa wait wait wait wait
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Speaker 2: wait wait okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall, hold on, Hendrix, don't move.
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Speaker 1: Joining me.
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Speaker 2: Are now in Psychoanalyst out of Beverly Hills, Joining us,
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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshalls at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com, author
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Speaker 2: of deal Breaker. You can see her now on Peacock,
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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany, did you hear what he just said? Wherever
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Speaker 2: Sean Combs goes, he has a fleet of minions. So
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Speaker 2: before he could order cheesecake at three o'clock in the
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Speaker 2: morning and actually get somebody to go out and get it.
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Speaker 2: People waiting on him, hand and foot, surrounded by a
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Speaker 2: phalanx of as.
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Speaker 1: I said, minions.
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Speaker 2: Now he's got minions making up his bed and cleaning.
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Speaker 2: How hard is it to pull one blanket up? You
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Speaker 2: got to get another inmate to do that for you.
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Speaker 2: I know this means something.
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Speaker 8: But what Okay, Nancy, I guess he did. He needs staff, right, Seriously,
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Speaker 8: I've compared his culture of sex trafficking to a cult
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Speaker 8: where he's always the leader and the benefits flow towards him,
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Speaker 8: and I think he's creating that same culture in behind bars, Nancy.
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Speaker 8: You know the mackerel is currency. I once worked with
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Speaker 8: a female consultant who work with women behind bars, and
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Speaker 8: they would take Jolly ramcher candies. They would melt them
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Speaker 8: down in the microwave and use them as bildos. They
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Speaker 8: would sell them.
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Speaker 4: They would pass.
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Speaker 8: Them around as some kind of favor. So you know
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Speaker 8: he did. He had billions before. Now he has kans
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Speaker 8: of mackerel. He's going to use whatever he has.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just trying to take everything you just said
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Speaker 2: with a box of salt. What is happening with Diddi
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Speaker 2: behind bars, this as he makes a bombshell bid for
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Speaker 2: a trial delay. Eric Fattest joining me, renowned attorney, joining us,
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Speaker 2: founding partner Varner Fattest, elite Legal Eric Fattest, Delay, Delay, Delay,
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Speaker 2: But what about the mighty brought so low? The fact
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Speaker 2: that Sean Combs is now dealing in kans of mackerel
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Speaker 2: behind bars. But the significance of this is not just
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Speaker 2: the fish in a can, it's trading it for what
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Speaker 2: What is he trading it for?
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Speaker 1: Is someone going to testify for him?
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Speaker 2: Is there a deal in the works of some sort,
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Speaker 2: Because we know, especially from a recent New York Times article,
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Speaker 2: his life behind bars is monotonous, bad checks mackerel. His
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Speaker 2: digs have been upgraded. We found out about that. But
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Speaker 2: this is a time for him to focus on his trial.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of the request for a delay?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Nancy, Well, luckily there's no crime against possession with
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Speaker 9: the intended distribute macro, so he won't be We're seeing
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Speaker 9: an added of charge on that. Hey, look, delay is
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Speaker 9: a common tactic on behalf of the defense.
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Speaker 1: What they're arguing is that.
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Speaker 9: There were some messages and information regarding one of the
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Speaker 9: alleged victims that was not turned over and that they
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Speaker 9: need more time to go through that. They're claiming that
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Speaker 9: there were like two hundred thousand items that that were
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Speaker 9: not turned over from the prosecution, and so defense is
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Speaker 9: going to use that by saying, hey, we're being ambush'.
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Speaker 7: This is we're being bombarded. We have no time to
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Speaker 7: prepare for this. We need some more time. Judge, I
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Speaker 7: would not be.
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Speaker 2: No time hold on whoa whoa whoa no time calla
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Speaker 2: Brantley joining me, investigative reporter with Daily Email dot Com
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Speaker 2: and star of the Trial of DDY podcast Cala. Don't
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Speaker 2: you remember at the get go how Sean Combs was
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Speaker 2: railing about going to jail and how he can't wait
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Speaker 2: to get in court to prove his innocence. But now
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Speaker 2: we hear they're wanting a delay.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Nancy, well did He has been behind bars since September.
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Speaker 10: That's eight months now and he still has a little
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Speaker 10: bit less than a month to go. So one would
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Speaker 10: think that he would try to, you know, get into
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Speaker 10: core plead his innocence. But when you think about it,
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Speaker 10: eight months for all of the evidence that they owe through,
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Speaker 10: for all the witnesses that his team has to you know,
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Speaker 10: collect and all that there is to prepare. Eight months
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Speaker 10: really hasn't been that much time to bring forth a
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Speaker 10: solid case.
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Speaker 2: Well, Diddy is pouring over documents and trading mat behind bars.
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Speaker 2: We learned that he's actually gotten an upgrade at the MDC.
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Speaker 2: That's right, did he got an upgrade?
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Speaker 7: Listen?
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Speaker 11: Well, the public has been led to believe Sean Diddy
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Speaker 11: Combs is languishing in a tiny cell at the NBC.
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Speaker 11: It turns out the disgraced mogul is having a blast
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Speaker 11: behind bars. Combs has been moved to the lowest security
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Speaker 11: unit in the prison for North, where he has access
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Speaker 11: to a tablet, cards, music, TV movies, ping pong, air hockey,
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Speaker 11: and even a peep show. Who needs expensive freak offs
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Speaker 11: when you can spy on female inmates through a grate
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Speaker 11: in the floor.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of expensive free cough parties, parties for him, not
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Speaker 2: for the women that were allegedly raped, all on video.
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Speaker 2: We understand that video is going to be introduced at
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Speaker 2: the trial. I'm going to get to that first. My
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Speaker 2: head is spinning because I just heard basketball, ping pong.
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Speaker 2: I happen to know that there are yoga classes. What
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Speaker 2: I mean, hey, doctor Dwayne Hendrix, what kind of spa
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Speaker 2: are you running? Yoga? Basketball, ping pong? Laptop?
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Speaker 1: What? He's now in the fourth north dorm style living?
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Speaker 1: What yoga?
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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, he's over in the East building.
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Speaker 6: Uh, there's a million square feet of space over at
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Speaker 6: the NBC and there's the east of the West building
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Speaker 6: and typically.
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Speaker 1: Let me just drink that in.
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Speaker 2: Hold on, did you say a million square feet of space?
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Speaker 2: Hold on, let me throw something at you. Microwaves, exercise balls,
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Speaker 2: exercise matts, movies, music that you pick your individual selection tablets,
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Speaker 2: what lasagna, Knight, pasta, fazoul, radios, watches in the commissary.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is my handwriting.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure I wrote it, but can that be correct?
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Speaker 7: All is correct except for the microwaves.
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Speaker 6: They took the microwaves out back in twenty twelve. The
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Speaker 6: inmates do have access to hot water at a temperature
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Speaker 6: about one hundred and eighty degrees, so they can warm
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Speaker 6: up packets of rice or other new way.
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Speaker 1: Why do they take the microwave away?
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Speaker 2: Were they heating up liquid and throwing it on each other?
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Speaker 2: There's such a fun bunch.
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Speaker 6: Cooking, you know, you can imagine. Guys get very creative.
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Speaker 6: They cook all types of things.
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Speaker 2: I mean for sure.
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Speaker 6: So we took the microwaves back in twenty twelve for
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Speaker 6: security reasons.
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Speaker 7: But yet they do have access to hot water. But yeah,
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Speaker 7: is pleased.
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Speaker 2: How can you look at me with a straight face
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Speaker 2: and say the microwaves were taken away from because of
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Speaker 2: their creative cooking And you can imagine, you mean, like
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Speaker 2: cooking up a molotov? What why were the microwaves taken away?
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Speaker 1: Now, try to tell the truth.
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Speaker 6: I'm telling the truth because they were cooking and then
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Speaker 6: taking parts off the microwave, making shanks and other things.
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Speaker 7: So we just took them out.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I can only imagine what they were cooking out.
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Speaker 2: Let's see microwave exercise balls, floor mats, movies, music tablets
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Speaker 2: for purchase. I had no idea that you can buy
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Speaker 2: radios and watches at the NDC Commissary.
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Speaker 1: True fault true.
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Speaker 7: And you can buy music.
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Speaker 6: You can download music through the commentsary, and there's several
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Speaker 6: thousands of songs.
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Speaker 7: That you can download on to your particular radio.
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Speaker 1: For list is it's supposed to be jail, Well, I mean.
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Speaker 6: You got to have they have to have something to
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Speaker 6: monitor their time, especially in a jail situation where they're
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Speaker 6: not really taking re entry programs and different things of
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Speaker 6: that nature.
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Speaker 7: So so do you think.
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Speaker 2: You know what to Dodger Kimberly, Melman Roseco joining US
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Speaker 2: executive director Freedom Light and human trafficking expert witness, author
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Speaker 2: of hidden and playing site America Slaves of the New Millennium.
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Speaker 2: Dodger Kimberly, I wonder how the rape victims, and this
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Speaker 2: goes back twenty years.
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Speaker 1: That's why they've.
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Speaker 2: Got a third superseding indictment. These indictments are multi count
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Speaker 2: all the women that claim that they were drugged, stripped
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Speaker 2: and raped on video, where guys would pose their limbs
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Speaker 2: to be raped on video. Wonder how they feel about
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Speaker 2: the exercise balls, the exercise mats, the yoga, the basketball,
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Speaker 2: the laptop, Lasagna, Knight. How do you think they feel
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Speaker 2: about Diddy kicked back watching his favorite movie right now?
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Speaker 1: I think that is certainly an area of concern.
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Speaker 12: I think when you expect punishment, when you expect pentons,
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Speaker 12: when you expect incarceration, you expect to see a lot
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Speaker 12: of the freedoms and luxuries of life taken away.
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Speaker 1: And I think to some extent that has happened.
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Speaker 12: But I think that when you're hearing that they're engaging
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Speaker 12: in other forms of currency and downloading music and having
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Speaker 12: leisurely exchanges with each other is an area of concern,
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Speaker 12: and I think it would be disconcerting to his alleged victims.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Cala Brantley joining me dailymail dot Com investigative Report and
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Speaker 2: star of the Trial of Ditty, Kelly, you and I
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Speaker 2: were talking just yesterday about the very likely trial delay
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Speaker 2: at Sean Cone's request. But can I get you to
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Speaker 2: focus in hone in on Ditty's upgrade behind bars, yoga mats,
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Speaker 2: exercise balls, lasagna night, When did this happen?
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Speaker 10: And Nancy, while it might sound like Ditty's having a
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Speaker 10: great time with you know, the yoga mats and the
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Speaker 10: exercise balls and the movies, if you look at these
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Speaker 10: pictures that are on the screen right now, this is
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Speaker 10: did he in the club holding up an expensive bottle
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Speaker 10: of tequila? Did he with the crown on his head
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Speaker 10: as if he's a king of the castle, you know
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Speaker 10: him with shots right there? He is a far cry
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Speaker 10: from where he was. So while it might sound like
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Speaker 10: you know it's mad when you're going from living in
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Speaker 10: the lap of luxury to a eight x ten cell.
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Speaker 10: That's a big difference. So I'm sure he's not having
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Speaker 10: the greatest time of all behind bars.
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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Whobo hold on, Caleb Brantley,
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Speaker 2: Wait a minute. I don't think you're completely familiar with
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Speaker 2: the need housing situation? Did he is enjoying? It's more
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Speaker 2: of a.
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Speaker 1: Dorm style listen.
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Speaker 13: Combs is now housed in a dorm style unit of
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Speaker 13: the MDC, reserved for up to twenty high profile prisoners.
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Speaker 13: For North is known to have looser rules than Jen
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Speaker 13: Pop and both marginally better meals than what Combs was
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Speaker 13: receiving on Suicide Watch, including chicken sandw hot dogs, and
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Speaker 13: wings in addition to many forms of entertainment. Combs has
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Speaker 13: allowed three hundred minutes of phone time each month, but
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Speaker 13: still does not get a pillow for his less than
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Speaker 13: twin sized bed.
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Speaker 2: Chicken sandwiches, hot dogs, wings, three hundred minutes.
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Speaker 1: Of phone time? What this is a dorm style situation?
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Speaker 2: He's not sitting in an eight y eleven jail sale.
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Speaker 2: He has definitely gotten an upgrade. I mean, I don't
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Speaker 2: get lasagna night.
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Speaker 1: No, I agree.
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Speaker 10: I think he definitely has gotten an upgrade, that's for sure.
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Speaker 10: But he's not in a five star hotel. He's not
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Speaker 10: in the mansions that he's used to, he's not having
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Speaker 10: his butler's get him cheesecake at three am, and he's
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Speaker 10: certainly not having caviat or filet mignon. So while it
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Speaker 10: is an upgrade, it's still not to the level and
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Speaker 10: the status that he's accustomed to. So he still is
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Speaker 10: definitely in some type of detention. While for you know
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Speaker 10: a lot of us normal people it might seem, you know,
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Speaker 10: knock that bad. For him coming from his status, it
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Speaker 10: is a huge change.
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Speaker 3: Shawn Combs pleads not guilty to additional charges brought forth
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Speaker 3: in his federal sex trafficking case. As his trial looms ahead.
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Speaker 2: This as we learn not only does Shaun Combs want
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Speaker 2: a big delay that's the defense attorney's best friend, but
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Speaker 2: we are learning that the freak Off video videos will
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Speaker 2: very likely be brought into evidence by the state.
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Speaker 1: Listen Seawan.
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Speaker 13: Comebs pleads not guilty to the new charges, his legal
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Speaker 13: team contending the allegations are not new. His defense claims
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Speaker 13: the accusers remain the same former long term girlfriends who
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Speaker 13: engaged in a consensual sexual relationship with the rapper. Combs
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Speaker 13: insists the escapades that prosecutors refer to as freakoffs were
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Speaker 13: not coerced commercial acts, but joint decisions between romantic partners
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Speaker 13: to bring other partners into their bed. Combs claims the
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Speaker 13: freakoff tape pepes prosecutors plan to submit his evidence will
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Speaker 13: queerly show all parties are active and eager participants.
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Speaker 2: Straight out to Chris McDonough joining me, director Colcase Foundation,
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Speaker 2: former homicide to take a star of the interview room
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Speaker 2: on YouTube where I found him, but from my purposes
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Speaker 2: right now, he was also a vice investigator, Chris mcdona.
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Speaker 1: This is the.
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Speaker 2: Oldest defense in the book. Quote she asked for it.
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Speaker 2: That's their defense with all those high powered lawyers, and
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Speaker 2: they've just added I believe Mark Garrigos and Brian Steele
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Speaker 2: both with him. I unfamiliar that said, same old, same own,
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Speaker 2: same old, same old.
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Speaker 1: She asked for it. It's consensual.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: How many times have we heard this, right, Nancy, in
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Speaker 14: all the years that you've been doing this. I mean,
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Speaker 14: of course it is right. I mean you always fly
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Speaker 14: in other sex workers from around the United States for
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Speaker 14: a consensual contact. I mean, this is absolutely uh you know, classic,
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Speaker 14: It's right in line with his personality. And you know,
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Speaker 14: if if all those right, those watches are going to
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Speaker 14: come in handy because he's gonna be able to watch
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Speaker 14: that time for quite some time.
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Speaker 2: Well. Put, guys, uh, get this, doctor Bethany Marshall, Listen
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Speaker 2: to this analysis. Shawn Holmes is going to have to
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Speaker 2: say with a straight face to a jury as they
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Speaker 2: are watching a freak off the video which has been
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Speaker 2: purported to be women who have been doped, naked, covered
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Speaker 2: in baby oil, with guys positioning their limbs to get
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Speaker 2: a better angle as they are being raped. That's what
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Speaker 2: we've been told. Maybe it's completely wrong. But if it
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Speaker 2: is wrong, why is the state trying to introduce it?
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Speaker 2: But listen to this, doctor Bethany. The defense is these
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Speaker 2: women were all his girlfriends, some of them long term,
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Speaker 2: who engaged in can sensual sex with the rapper. Wait
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Speaker 2: a minute, does that include Cassie Ventura. We got a
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Speaker 2: little peek into their quote consensual relationship. Here she is
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Speaker 2: walking barefoot down a hotel hallway a corridor. Ooh, look
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Speaker 2: who's coming it's Sean comes and he is actually chasing
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Speaker 2: her in nothing but a towel. Not what I want
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Speaker 2: to open my door at the hotel and see throw
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Speaker 2: That doesn't look consensual to me. Dr Bethany, I hope
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Speaker 2: you're watching. Look at this grabbing her stuff. Yes, she's
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Speaker 2: not going anywhere, and she just lays there and plays
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Speaker 2: dead as a defense, and he literally drags her off
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Speaker 2: by her neck. Now, according to what we've been told,
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Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura was trying to get away from one of
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Speaker 2: these free coughs that he was having in his hotel room.
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Speaker 2: Now it's not over yet. There he goes, stomping off
20:57
Speaker 2: like a spoiled brat.
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Speaker 1: It's not over.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, they get through there go oh wow, there
21:04
Speaker 2: goes two thousand dollars of a vase. So is this
21:07
Speaker 2: an Oh guys, that's from our friends at CNN. I'd
21:10
Speaker 2: like to report. The defense is arguing that CNN doctored that. Oh, okay,
21:16
Speaker 2: try that with a jury, just like your claim that
21:19
Speaker 2: this encounter, well, actually it was an aggravated assault with
21:23
Speaker 2: feet and fist. Was consensual? Okay, hit me, Doctor Bethany,
21:28
Speaker 2: consensual my rear end?
21:29
Speaker 8: Okay, Nancy, I call this the swinger defense. He's going
21:33
Speaker 8: to say that he and his female partners were swingers,
21:36
Speaker 8: meaning that they consensually brought in other couples or other
21:40
Speaker 8: individuals who were also swingers. But this does not meet
21:44
Speaker 8: criteria for this sexual subculture. In swingers culture, usually in
21:51
Speaker 8: if there's a heterosexual couple, they will bring in one
21:54
Speaker 8: or two women if they do not bring in other men.
21:58
Speaker 8: So if there was an expert on this, and there
22:00
Speaker 8: are certainly experts in my field who work with groups
22:04
Speaker 8: of people who are all in sexual configurations, maybe multiple partners,
22:09
Speaker 8: they would say that this not only does sex traffic
22:12
Speaker 8: workers not meet criteria, but the very configuration of how
22:18
Speaker 8: they're throwing these parties doesn't meet criteria. Criteria Also, the
22:24
Speaker 8: aggression towards Cassie Ventura. In swinger communities, everybody is very harmonious.
22:30
Speaker 8: They're there because they want to be there.
22:33
Speaker 3: Did these lawyers want potential jurors questioned about their willingness
22:37
Speaker 3: to watch sensitive content in a move some experts speculate
22:41
Speaker 3: could mean the infamous freak Off videos will be shown
22:45
Speaker 3: to the jury at trial.
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Speaker 2: Eric Fattus, I'm sure you, like me, have conducted many,
22:53
Speaker 2: many whata Dyers. In fact, I don't have any nightmares
22:59
Speaker 2: about trying case. Is that's where I'm the happiest, Like
23:01
Speaker 2: a bird out of a cage. I feel better trying
23:04
Speaker 2: a case than being out of the courtroom. But that said,
23:07
Speaker 2: I do have one recurring nightmare, and it is the
23:13
Speaker 2: impaneling questions.
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Speaker 1: When you first strike.
23:16
Speaker 2: A jury, you ask the jury four or five impaneling questions,
23:20
Speaker 2: and if any of them raise their hand, they can't
23:22
Speaker 2: be on the jury, such as are you a resident
23:25
Speaker 2: of in my case, Fulton County, Inner City Atlanta? And
23:29
Speaker 2: if they are not, then they're immediately off the jury.
23:32
Speaker 2: There's several impaneling questions. In this bad dream, I always
23:37
Speaker 2: stand up and I can't find and can't remember the
23:40
Speaker 2: impaneling questions. Then we have to break. Okay, that's my
23:43
Speaker 2: big nightmare. That said, have you ever ever encountered a
23:49
Speaker 2: request to conduct Voi Dyer jury selection without talking to
23:53
Speaker 2: the jur rs.
23:54
Speaker 7: I haven't seen something go that far.
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Speaker 9: I've certainly seen juror questionnaires, and I've been involved in
23:59
Speaker 9: cases that have that, you know, But part of the
24:01
Speaker 9: purpose brings the thought.
24:02
Speaker 2: Of course, there's GERR questionnaires for Pete's sake. There's always
24:05
Speaker 2: jurrr questionnaires, but they want to conduct voda or jury
24:10
Speaker 2: selection in writing.
24:14
Speaker 9: No, it seems like a misfire to me, because you
24:17
Speaker 9: need the juris to expound upon their answer. Sometimes the
24:20
Speaker 9: jury put you know, one two word answer. You gotta
24:22
Speaker 9: know what that means. You want to ask them. You
24:24
Speaker 9: want to see their demeanor. You want to see, you know,
24:26
Speaker 9: when you're talking about freakoffs and sex videos. You want
24:29
Speaker 9: to see who has a guest at that, because those folks,
24:33
Speaker 9: from a defense perspective, are are folks who don't want
24:35
Speaker 9: on the jury, And so just written questionnaire seems a
24:38
Speaker 9: little too sterile, a little too neutral. I think there
24:40
Speaker 9: needs to be some interpersonal communication with these jurors to
24:44
Speaker 9: learn it precisely how they feel, you know.
24:46
Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall. It's because of the freakoff tapes. The
24:51
Speaker 2: defans is worried. Obviously, they're so worried about the freak
24:55
Speaker 2: off tapes that they're trying to specifically select gerrs that
24:59
Speaker 2: won't be upset when they see whatever's on those tapes.
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Speaker 8: But tours who won't be upset are jurors who are
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Speaker 8: acculturated to those kinds of situations. Maybe they've gone to
25:11
Speaker 8: those kinds of parties, or they think that, you know,
25:13
Speaker 8: this kind of sexual activity is okay. So those kinds
25:17
Speaker 8: of durors are likely not to find P. Diddy guilty.
25:21
Speaker 2: Okay, I understand where you're coming from, but I don't
25:24
Speaker 2: know how that's really going to play out once they
25:27
Speaker 2: see these videos. And I have reason to believe that
25:29
Speaker 2: more than one free cough tape will be presented at trial.
25:33
Speaker 2: I mean Sidney summer. You and I remember when the
25:36
Speaker 2: raid went down. There were boxes and boxes and bags
25:40
Speaker 2: and bags of video video equipment, one thousand balls of
25:43
Speaker 2: baby oil and more taken out of the home the mansion.
25:48
Speaker 1: That tells me there's a lot of video Sydney.
25:51
Speaker 4: I would completely agree, Nancy. There's got to be hundreds
25:56
Speaker 4: of tapes at least. I mean to Tony, he claims
26:00
Speaker 4: he had one hundred and twenty victims. That's just a
26:04
Speaker 4: ballpark number. And we know that these super skating indictments
26:08
Speaker 4: also expanded the years that prosecutors claim this behavior went on.
26:13
Speaker 1: And just think about it.
26:14
Speaker 2: So the defense is looking for men and women that
26:18
Speaker 2: won't get upset when they see whatever is in those
26:21
Speaker 2: freak off tapes. It's happening. The tapes are coming into evidence.
26:26
Speaker 2: There's a lot of legal hoops you have to jump
26:29
Speaker 2: through to get in video evidence, and you'd be totally
26:33
Speaker 2: bored if Pattis and I talked about that. So I
26:35
Speaker 2: will move on to the fact that the defense wants
26:38
Speaker 2: to select the jury through riding. Okay, that's not happening,
26:41
Speaker 2: forget about it. But Sean Combs is quote lawyering up. Listen,
26:48
Speaker 2: Sean Diddy.
26:49
Speaker 3: Combs is making final adjustments to his defense team ahead
26:52
Speaker 3: of the trial after Anthony Rico's sudden exit from the team.
26:56
Speaker 3: Combs is reportedly moving to add celebrity attorney Mark Garret Ghost,
27:00
Speaker 3: who has previously represented Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, Colin Kaepernick,
27:04
Speaker 3: Jesse Small ed Garags's daughter Tenny is already part of
27:08
Speaker 3: the team, and Garygos has reportedly been advising on the case,
27:11
Speaker 3: but he may take more of a lead role.
27:13
Speaker 8: In the courtroom.
27:14
Speaker 3: Combs is reportedly also searching for a black woman willing
27:19
Speaker 3: to represent him, possibly looking to diversify as some of
27:23
Speaker 3: his previous arguments call the government's case racist.
27:27
Speaker 2: Okay, now we're hearing City Sumner that in the last
27:31
Speaker 2: twenty four hours that Shawn Combs has added in Atlanta
27:35
Speaker 2: Lawyer that I fairly will Brian Steele. Now let me
27:39
Speaker 2: just give you my off the cuff reaction when I
27:41
Speaker 2: would say Steele coming down the court on Courthouse Hall
27:45
Speaker 2: at me to work a deal or we go to
27:48
Speaker 2: set it for trial. It wasn't revulsion. Okay.
27:54
Speaker 1: He is a great lawyer, He's likable. He has a
27:59
Speaker 1: really good way with a jury.
28:04
Speaker 2: I could see him and Geira goes both frankly adding
28:08
Speaker 2: a lot to the defense team. Steele did not just
28:13
Speaker 2: fall off the turnip truck, and of course neither did
28:15
Speaker 2: Mark Geaghos. So what's the thinking, I mean, what do
28:19
Speaker 2: we know about this very recent decision. He's already got
28:22
Speaker 2: a fleet of lawyers, So why is Hee adding Geargos
28:26
Speaker 2: and Steel Nancy.
28:27
Speaker 4: I think Diddy just wants every single person in his
28:31
Speaker 4: corner that he can get. Only one who has defended
28:35
Speaker 4: a similar case he wants in his corner. He wants
28:38
Speaker 4: as many heads as possible working on how to make
28:42
Speaker 4: that outcome not guilty.
28:44
Speaker 2: Well, you know this is after one lawyer voluntarily left Ditty's.
28:51
Speaker 13: Defense just ahead of his sex trafficking and racketeering trial.
28:54
Speaker 13: Anthony Rico, one of Combe's high powered defense attorneys, has
28:58
Speaker 13: suddenly quit the case. Rico filed a brief motion asking
29:02
Speaker 13: to be relieved of his duties, saying, quote, under no
29:05
Speaker 13: circumstances can I continue to effectively serve as counsel for
29:09
Speaker 13: Shawn Combs. Rico gives little context to the statement in
29:12
Speaker 13: the filing to protect attorney client privilege, but the withdrawal
29:16
Speaker 13: seems to come with approval from lead attorney Mark Agnifhilo.
29:19
Speaker 13: Rico promises his recusal will not delay trial or leave
29:23
Speaker 13: Combs high and dry. With five other attorneys still actively
29:26
Speaker 13: working on the case, Hunter.
29:34
Speaker 3: Biden and Michael Jackson's former lawyer, Mark Gerrigos is rumored
29:38
Speaker 3: to take up the task of defending Ditty in his
29:41
Speaker 3: upcoming federal sex trafficking trial. Will he be successful?
29:46
Speaker 2: In addition to what we believe will be damning freak
29:49
Speaker 2: off videos, And let me tell you, it's not just
29:51
Speaker 2: one of them. Judging by what was taken out of
29:55
Speaker 2: Shawn Combs's mansion, video equipment, videos, videos, videos, baby oil,
30:00
Speaker 2: you name it. I'm anticipating a lot of videos being
30:03
Speaker 2: produced at chial by the state, which is telling, but
30:07
Speaker 2: now more violence rears its ugly head as a damning
30:15
Speaker 2: claim against did he listen?
30:16
Speaker 15: New details from an LAPD police report show neither Sean
30:19
Speaker 15: or Justin Combs were questioned in relation to a twenty
30:22
Speaker 15: twenty two shooting that Rodney Jones claimed happen inside Challis
30:26
Speaker 15: Studios at the father and son's hands. The report claimed
30:29
Speaker 15: surveillance video captured the victim being shot by Rudolph Flowers
30:33
Speaker 15: as he got into his car parked a half block
30:35
Speaker 15: from Challice. The victim then ran back to Challis for
30:38
Speaker 15: help and was found by officers sitting in a black
30:40
Speaker 15: folding chair outside. Jones attorney Tyrone Blackburn says the police
30:45
Speaker 15: report reflects the story Sean Combs instructed everyone to tell,
30:48
Speaker 15: and points out the report makes no mention.
30:50
Speaker 1: Of muzzle flashes in the video.
30:52
Speaker 15: Blackburn claims he has several witnesses to confirm Jones' version
30:56
Speaker 15: of events, but has not revealed their identities.
30:58
Speaker 2: Guys, you saw a commode totally covered in blood. That's
31:03
Speaker 2: the incident we're talking about. Why was it Sean Combe's
31:07
Speaker 2: question following this incident and why do we care.
31:11
Speaker 1: About this incident?
31:12
Speaker 2: Because he goes hand in hand to prove that guns
31:16
Speaker 2: and weapons may have been used as a threat on
31:19
Speaker 2: the free Cough victims. We are the same thing over
31:22
Speaker 2: and over and over. Specifically, listen. Record producer Rodney Litl.
31:27
Speaker 2: Rod Jones claimed Shawn Comb sexually harassed, drugged, and threatened
31:30
Speaker 2: him in a previous lawsuit, but now Jones says Combs
31:33
Speaker 2: and his son are involved in the shooting in an
31:35
Speaker 2: LA recording studio challice, but Combs had the story changed
31:38
Speaker 2: to where the shooting occurred blocks away from the studio.
31:41
Speaker 2: Jones claims Comb's son, Justin, and her friend knowingly as
31:44
Speaker 2: G got into a beef in the bathroom. A shot
31:46
Speaker 2: is fired and Shawn Combs and his son Justin come
31:48
Speaker 2: out of the bathroom, leaving G to bleed all over
31:50
Speaker 2: the floor. Jones claims he takes G to a waiting
31:53
Speaker 2: ambulance and he's taken to the hospital. Police reports indicate
31:56
Speaker 2: the shooting took place blocks away from the studio. The
31:59
Speaker 2: significance of this prior shooting incident cannot be underestimated.
32:06
Speaker 1: We have scores of.
32:08
Speaker 2: Photos of the shooting scene afterwards, but for some reason,
32:11
Speaker 2: Shawn Combs was never questioned and then somehow the story changed.
32:16
Speaker 1: To where the shooting occurred.
32:17
Speaker 2: But we have the pictures of the blood, and it
32:21
Speaker 2: goes hand in hand with the story that the victim
32:24
Speaker 2: was propped up on a commode and EMT's recalled.
32:28
Speaker 1: Look at it.
32:29
Speaker 2: How can that have happened at another location where the
32:32
Speaker 2: photos prove it happened there.
32:35
Speaker 1: Why would Shawn Colmbs lie about it?
32:38
Speaker 2: This goes hand in hand with multiple shooting incidents.
32:42
Speaker 1: Listen.
32:42
Speaker 11: Investigators may also be taking a second look into the
32:45
Speaker 11: nineteen ninety nine Club New York shooting, based on allegations
32:48
Speaker 11: in Rodney Jones lawsuit that Combs bragged about bribing witnesses
32:52
Speaker 11: and jurors at trial, sharing that he pulled the trigger
32:54
Speaker 11: that night, not Jamal Shine Berrow. Barrow served nearly nine
32:58
Speaker 11: years in prison for opening fire and injuring three during
33:01
Speaker 11: an altercation with another club goer while out celebrating a
33:04
Speaker 11: new record deal with Combs and his girlfriend at the time,
33:07
Speaker 11: Jennifer Lopez. The lawsuit a ledge's Combs shared that Lopez
33:11
Speaker 11: carried the gun and passed it to him during the altercation.
33:14
Speaker 11: Victim Natanya Rubin, has also long insisted that Comb shot her,
33:17
Speaker 11: not Arro Lopez was never charged in the shooting, and
33:21
Speaker 11: Combs was acquitted of four counts criminal possession of a
33:23
Speaker 11: weapon and bribery.
33:25
Speaker 2: If these allegations are brought in a similar transactions, Jennifer
33:29
Speaker 2: Lopez may be dragged to this, dragged into this trial.
33:32
Speaker 2: After all, the significance cannot be underestimated. Let me say
33:38
Speaker 2: it again, introducing violence like this on these victims, and
33:46
Speaker 2: of course, in addition to the j Low incident, how
33:50
Speaker 2: can we complete the conversation without mentioning the late the
33:56
Speaker 2: Great to Pauk.
33:57
Speaker 11: Shakur, Dwayne Keethy. D Davis blames credit for Tupac's murder
34:01
Speaker 11: on bet and in his memoir he says Puffy Combs
34:05
Speaker 11: wanted Night and Tupac's heads after their disc track hit
34:08
Speaker 11: them up. When Davis offers to carry out the hits,
34:11
Speaker 11: Combs agrees to pay him one million dollars.
34:14
Speaker 2: Eric Fattis gunshots, gunshot, wounds, shootouts, one victim after the next,
34:21
Speaker 2: Tupac Shaker is dead. Then you have the shooting at
34:24
Speaker 2: the studio where we just showed the pictures that corroborate
34:28
Speaker 2: what the victim said, being propped up of on a.
34:30
Speaker 1: Commode as he was bleeding out.
34:32
Speaker 2: He lived by the way to tell the tale, but
34:35
Speaker 2: nobody's listening. Now you have more threats by gun Eric.
34:42
Speaker 2: This is very serious. Forget about the mackerel and the
34:45
Speaker 2: upgrade at the MDC. I'm very surprised that there is
34:50
Speaker 2: a fourth superseding indictment on gun and gunshot charges.
34:56
Speaker 7: Yeahnfi.
34:56
Speaker 9: It wouldn't be unusual when you look at the federal
34:58
Speaker 9: rico charge of selling one thing, it alleges is a
35:02
Speaker 9: pattern of conduct in which he uses his resources and
35:05
Speaker 9: affiliates and sometimes violence to manipulate the legal system, to
35:10
Speaker 9: intimidate witnesses, to tamper with evidence. And so these allegations
35:14
Speaker 9: regarding these shootings go hand in hand with that that
35:17
Speaker 9: he is using that style of manipulation and that is
35:21
Speaker 9: his approach, that's his strategy to try to keep himself
35:24
Speaker 9: out of trouble, and so it wouldn't be unusual for
35:27
Speaker 9: the prosecution to try to bring up those things as
35:29
Speaker 9: either similar transactions or as additional charge defenses.
35:33
Speaker 3: Jailed rapper and musician Sean Puffy Combs hid with more
35:37
Speaker 3: charges amidst a federal sex trafficking case that alleges the
35:41
Speaker 3: musician use his power and status in the music industry
35:44
Speaker 3: to coerce unknowing victims.
35:47
Speaker 2: This as we learn that the Shawn Kim's defense team
35:52
Speaker 2: has to painted and demanding access to raw, unedited interviews
35:58
Speaker 2: and materials from the investigation discovery documentary The Fall of
36:03
Speaker 2: Ditty and I think I know why, Listen.
36:06
Speaker 3: Combs's legal team is demanding access to the raw and
36:09
Speaker 3: edited interview and materials from the investigation discovery documentary The
36:13
Speaker 3: Fall of Ditty. The defense is also asking for any
36:16
Speaker 3: notes or journals sent to the series producers and records
36:19
Speaker 3: of any payments that may have been made to two
36:22
Speaker 3: specific interviewees, Combs's former chef, referred to as Individual A
36:27
Speaker 3: and Individual B, a former girlfriend. The chef spoke out
36:30
Speaker 3: about how Combs treated her, as well as rumors she
36:34
Speaker 3: heard about Combs's behavior while his ex girlfriend discussed their relationship,
36:38
Speaker 3: including an alleged incident of sexual assault. Legal reps for
36:42
Speaker 3: parent company Warner Brothers are asking the New York judge
36:45
Speaker 3: to squash the subpoena, citing reporters privilege.
36:49
Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner investigative reporter, I'll tell you why.
36:51
Speaker 2: I think that Shawn Comes's defense team wants all the
36:54
Speaker 2: outtakes to that particular documentary and probably others similar to it.
36:59
Speaker 2: They want to see what landed on the cutting room floor.
37:02
Speaker 2: They want to see if there's anything that was edited
37:06
Speaker 2: out that they can use to cross examine these potential witnesses.
37:12
Speaker 1: I think that's what.
37:13
Speaker 4: They're after most definitely, Nancy. They're looking for anything exculpatory,
37:19
Speaker 4: anything that is contrary to what the general narrative is.
37:25
Speaker 4: They want to make Combs not look like this monster,
37:29
Speaker 4: but a thoughder figure with a weird sex life.
37:32
Speaker 2: All of this is brewing as the state suffers a blow.
37:36
Speaker 1: Now it may not seem.
37:37
Speaker 2: Like a blow to you, but it is a blow.
37:41
Speaker 2: A major claim against Sean Combs's colleague and longtime friend,
37:48
Speaker 2: Jay Z has been dropped amid a lot, a lot
37:54
Speaker 2: of controversy.
37:56
Speaker 1: I want you to hear Jane Doe.
38:00
Speaker 2: Now, this is a client that Tony Busby who was
38:05
Speaker 2: going up against jay Z. This was one of his clients,
38:09
Speaker 2: Busby's clients. Listen to her caught on the phone with
38:13
Speaker 2: jay Z's private investigator. He was there that he didn't
38:16
Speaker 2: have anything to do with.
38:18
Speaker 1: The any sexual acts towards you. It was strictly yeah,
38:22
Speaker 1: he was the.
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Speaker 14: One that kind of pushed me towards going.
38:25
Speaker 2: Forward with him with jay Z. Buzzbyda Yeah. You know
38:31
Speaker 2: why that secretly recorded conversation is from our friends at
38:35
Speaker 2: ABC Sidney Sumner. That was a major blow because if
38:42
Speaker 2: it is suggested that Tony Buzzy fabricated a case against
38:47
Speaker 2: jay Z. You see where I'm going with this. It's
38:50
Speaker 2: going to be alleged he fabricated cases against Sean Comes.
38:55
Speaker 2: That's where that is headed. That is why a victory
38:58
Speaker 2: for jay Z. I mean that old case was dismissed
39:00
Speaker 2: and jay Z said from the get go that didn't happen. Now,
39:06
Speaker 2: if Buzzby is somehow discredited, his other claims can be
39:12
Speaker 2: discredited to claims against Sean Combs, including potential victims and
39:17
Speaker 2: the criminal case.
39:18
Speaker 4: See yes, this could be potentially devastating for all of
39:21
Speaker 4: the victims that Buzzy claims to represent. And that's exactly
39:25
Speaker 4: what jay Z is accusing him of is in this
39:28
Speaker 4: defamation lawsuit, jay Z says Busby made the whole thing up,
39:32
Speaker 4: he pushed his client to do this. But an important
39:36
Speaker 4: distinction the victim Jane Doe, who is on that recording
39:41
Speaker 4: saying those things had now come back and said, you know,
39:45
Speaker 4: I was terrified when these pis showed up on my doorstep.
39:50
Speaker 4: I said whatever I thought they wanted me to say,
39:53
Speaker 4: so that they would leave me alone. Because she filed
39:56
Speaker 4: this anonymously, her name is Jane Doe. That's all we
40:00
Speaker 4: know about this victim, and she has done a few
40:03
Speaker 4: public anonymous interviews, but she does not want her name
40:07
Speaker 4: out there. So the fact that these two pis showed
40:10
Speaker 4: up on her doorstep unannounced was purifying for her.
40:14
Speaker 1: Is it the beginning?
40:15
Speaker 2: Is it the first domino and a whole series of
40:18
Speaker 2: dominoes to fall for the state. I don't think so,
40:22
Speaker 2: but it does present a problem. We wait as justice
40:26
Speaker 2: and folds. And now we remember an American hero police
40:29
Speaker 2: officer Eddie Mundo Junior, Lagrange Police Kentucky, killed in the
40:34
Speaker 2: line of duty a US Marine Corvette, survived by grieving
40:38
Speaker 2: wife Brandy and son Julian American hero officer Eddie Mundo Junior.
40:46
Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.