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How The 900,000 Bitcoin Supply SHOCK IGNITED A Supercycle!! | EP 1267 · Simply Bitcoin

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Yo, public companies currently hold about 900,000 Bitcoin and
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people are wondering if this has changed Bitcoin forever.
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There's a red hot debate happening right now on Twitter
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or X depending on how you like to call it, claiming that
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Bitcoin cycles are over forever and somebody coined the term the
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sailor cycle. So what is everyone talking
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about? We're going to be breaking it
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down in just a SEC, but people are basically making the case
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that the Bitcoin cycle is over, that the Super cycle has
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started. And what is super cycle?
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If you're new to Bitcoin, if you've never heard of that
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before, it's essentially the theory that the era of the 70 to
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80 to 60% market corrections after the traditional four year
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cycle are over. So we've heard this many, many,
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many times. Again, every single cycle we
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hear about these super cycles, but this time could be
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different. So no more delay.
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Let's jump straight into what is we're talking about.
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But before we do that, I do want to introduce our special guest
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today. We have Tina Blanco.
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Blanco is the president and CEO of SAT 123.
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We're going to be talking about what they do, what they're all
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about, reclaiming back your sovereignty during the culture
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session. Really excited about that as
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well. But guys, let's jump straight
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into what we're talking about. South Brad.
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Brad Mills posted this very interesting comment and it went
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semi viral and he's basically making the case Bitcoin cycles
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are over. The days of parabolic Bitcoin
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booms and devastating crashes are done.
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Bitcoin is inevitable and we are at the beginning of what he
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calls the sailor cycle. Are you positioned for the next
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100 X in Bitcoin? The chasm has been crossed.
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Now, what was really interesting about this post, I saw it as
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well is, is that there was so many different types of, of like
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emotions and reactions to it. So we're going to kind of like
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do a, like a, a breakdown on that.
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So, you know, we, we have to break down the charts of course
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here, the traditional four year cycles where Bitcoin goes up and
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then it has its correction. Bitcoin goes up and it has its
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correction. Bitcoin goes up and it has its
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correction. Those traditionally are
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three-year, 3 green, one red. What does that mean?
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So there's three green years and then there's one red year.
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He's making the case that essentially since Michael Saylor
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came in, since the Bitcoin Treasuries came in, since the
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ETFs got approved, since the Trump administration is
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basically making the case that, hey, you know, the US government
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has every intention of acquiring more Bitcoin, the strategic
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Bitcoin reserve, the traditional four year cycle is over.
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And we're now heading into a super cycle or what he calls a
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sailor cycle. So let's kind of explore what
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that means. And of course, all of this is
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speculative. None of this has happened.
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But as you can see, it's kind of like this, like chopping upwards
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slowly sideways. And this cycle has kind of been
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like that, right? You know, we've had, you know,
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2-3 months of it going parabolic a little bit, not as pretty, not
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as much as previous cycles. And then we have like 6 months
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of it chop solidation of it going basically sideways.
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And he's basically making the case that look like that's
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pretty much going to be the case for the foreseeable future.
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And if you connect the dots with what Michael Saylor was saying
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in a previous legacy mainstream media interview, he was
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basically making the same case. It was Mackenzie Sagalos that
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asked him. I think it was like, hey, like,
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you know, are we gonna get a correction?
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She's like, no, the corrections are over.
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The corrections are done. Now, here's the thing.
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I've been in Bitcoin long enough where I remember the same things
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being said many, many, many times.
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And I'm not the only one to feel that way.
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So before we get into it, let's get to how the community reacted
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to this post in the first place. So we're going to go, you know,
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post by post. So first for skeptics, look at
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the structure of the S&P 500 cents QE.
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Bear markets and bull markets exist in the QE era.
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Parallel ascending channel. When the Fed became an
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insatiable buyer of Treasury's draw downs weren't as long or
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steep. BTC is a scarce asset and has
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insatiable demand, he goes on to say.
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And here it is in log. Here's why Bitcoin will still
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follow the sailor cycle even during a debt deflation that
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might be caused by something like an AI singularity or a
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devastating war. Don't fear, be brave.
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Anyways, so we have a lot of people kind of pushing back.
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Here's Willy Wu and this guy, he, he said it like in a little
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bit of like a we've, we've, we've heard this before.
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Willy Wu back in 2021 basically said the same thing the last
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cycle. Matt C says just going to leave
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this year. Bitcoin third year is when
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everyone always declare the four year cycle is over.
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Here's Bob Lucas. Bob Lucas is a incredibly
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popular, you know, kind of YouTube, Bitcoin YouTube and he
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says seriously, seriously doubt it.
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British huddle says been saying this.
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So we do have people agreeing. A sunny post says human
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psychology is why there will be cycles always.
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Madex says. I'm waiting to smash by at 10K
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now. Adam back completely who was who
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was quoted in the Satoshi white paper completely ratioed Brad
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Mills and he said or alternatively, it could be a
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transition period for a parabolic breakout whether where
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the S curve gets steeper in validating the quote diminishing
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returns theory and breaking power law and then stock the
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flow models to the upside. That's my what if anyway, of
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course, Samson Mao says Omega cycle.
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Cena says not a foregone conclusion.
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If you adjust for diminishing return, the timing matched prior
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cycles very well. And of course we've been
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following a Cena. I had a podcast with Cena and
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which where we showed, you know, his quantile quantile model,
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basically kind of following the power law model and it's been
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somewhat accurate so far this cycle.
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Zach XPT very popular on X. He says, don't think you can say
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it's sustainable when you have all these new treasury companies
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aggressively creating new methods to Max bid BTC or alt in
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the short and then Jackie says this time always feels
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different. The thing about the present,
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then the mighty hindsight humbles us to once again realize
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that we cannot escape who we are.
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So like kind of the, you know, different differentiating
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theories, right? Brad Mills basically is making
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the case that hey, look, the things have changed forever
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because of the Bitcoin treasury companies.
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Adam Back is basically saying, dude, you're not bullish enough.
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We're actually going to about to hit the S curve and the whole
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diminishing returns theory. All of that's going to go out
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the window. And then a lot of us, and I sit
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in this camp, by the way, are basically saying, hey, guys,
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I've heard this a million times. There's going to be a crash.
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There's going to be a correction like there always is.
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So Adam Back responded to Brad Mills and he says, imagine me
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permanently bemused. While Bitcoin isn't already at
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$1 million per coin and people are not getting it.
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Here's Brad Mills again, my bullishness been ratioed by Adam
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Back's Uber bullishness. And of course we have Spetsky
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who's saying human psychology will never change.
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Cycles have nothing to do with Bitcoin and everything to do
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with people. I think that's that's very true
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by the way, they psychology plays a lot into it.
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And he says the same boom and crash will happen this time.
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Bookmark this. I'm going to give that a like
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Brad Mills replies with take a look at the SNP chart over the
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last 30 years and then Spetsky replies.
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S&P and Bitcoin are total are two different things.
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People understand companies in the stock market.
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These concepts have been around for over 350 years.
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They don't understand Bitcoin. You can't make that comparison
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in 20 years at the earliest, but more likely 50 years.
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So I don't know. Let me know what you guys think
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Is this the Super cycle? This is the Super cycle finally
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here is it happening? Is it is it is it effectuating?
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Is it, is it, is it manifesting in real life?
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Has Sailor getting into the game and the success of the Bitcoin
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treasury companies change the dynamic?
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The announcement of the Trump administration saying, hey,
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we're going to buy Bitcoin. You know, have they changed
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everything? Is the Bitcoin super cycle here
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or is history repeating itself? And once again, like every cycle
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in the past where we've heard super cycle, we're going to have
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a correction once again. Let us know down in the comments
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what you guys think. But before I pass it on to Opti,
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I do again want to welcome our very special guest, CEO and
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President of SAT 123.com, Tina Blanco in the House.
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Tina, what are your thoughts? Are this Bitcoin super cycle, is
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it, you know, is it real? Is it here?
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Are we entering a new era on Bitcoin's history, or is history
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repeating itself and once again, we're going to have a correction
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one day or the other? Yeah, Well, I guess on the
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correction part, I think it just, it's going to depend on
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the economy and but you know that I'm a big fan of Bitcoin.
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I've been buying Bitcoin since Bitcoin was a dollar.
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And and then I'd get so excited when about 1000 Bitcoins and
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then went up to $3.00 and I'd sell it and then I'd buy it for
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$8 and sell it for $12.00. And now, you know, yes, just
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like everyone else, I'm kicking myself for not keeping
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everything that I purchase. And, you know, and, and
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obviously, as you know, I've been mining and still work with
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my business partner, We're mining with buildings and, and
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lot of equipments in the state of Washington 'cause that was
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the cheapest at the time when we purchased the buildings.
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And, and all these chips was because the electricity, we
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found an area where it was only two cents per KB.
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But that's changed since five years ago.
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They keep raising the price. So we may have to move to
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Wyoming or something. But yeah, I am a huge fan and
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look, I think that the best way to get into the Bitcoin is to
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start. And and if you want to buy,
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let's say you want to own a Bitcoin, start by, you know,
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buying fifty $100 a week or or whatever you can afford a month.
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But any extra cash I would recommend, and I recommend this
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to all of my employees as I got all of my employees 15 years ago
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started in purchasing crypto. Actually, it's what I gave them
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instead of four O 1 Ki start giving them bitcoins, ethereums
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and you know, ripple, like coin and all that.
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But I just recommend that everyone to start somewhere and
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not to be afraid. So what if it went down a little
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bit? If you buy a little every week,
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it ain't going to matter. 100% I I 100% agree with that
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statement. Wise words and wow, I wish I was
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your employee 15 years ago. That was an incredible.
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You know, it's much better than a four O 1K being gift, you
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know, part of the comp being given Bitcoin at such an early,
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early price. And I mean, buying Bitcoin for a
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dollar like that is crazy. I think one of the things that
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you are saying, by the way, Tina, I don't know if you know
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this, but in the Bitcoin community, you'd be considered
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an OG. You are an OG if you're buying
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Bitcoin at a dollar. And yeah, it's crazy, though,
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because back then, and there was a lot more uncertainty back
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then, Bitcoin wasn't a sure thing like it is today.
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And that's something that a lot of us have to remember, right?
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Like Bitcoin right now feels like a sure thing.
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Bitcoin right now is like, you know, like guys, I think we
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basically won. You know, we, we have the, the,
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the end of operation Choke .2 point O the embracement of Wall
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Street right, But back in that era, Bitcoin was the Wild West.
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It there wasn't that certainty. Now, Tina, before we move
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forward, one of the things you mentioned too, is essentially
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how you know, you, you bought, I think it was like a, a, a, a
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dollar per Bitcoin. You bought like 1000 of them and
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then you sold when it got to like $3 or something, right?
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And that's an amazing trade trade because that's, that's
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like a 3X, right? You know, And then in hindsight,
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again, back then, guys, you have to understand, like in that era,
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that was the pizza era, right? That was when What was the guy's
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name? Laszlo.
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Laszlo basically bought 2P John pizzas for 10,000 Bitcoin
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because back then no one had any idea that Bitcoin would have
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would have any value whatsoever, right.
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So you have to, you guys have to understand that it was a
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completely different era back then.
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So could you talk a little bit a little bit about that, Tina?
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Yeah, You know, at the time, my son, he was 11 years old and he
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came up to me and he's like, mom, mom, mom, you got to, you
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got to see this. And that's kind of like how I
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got into it and started doing research.
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I always listen to young people. I, I always, every time a young
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person says, look, I've got these jeans that just came out.
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What I do is I go and I call the company and say, how do I
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invest? Because if young people are
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looking into something that is like really cool to them, I know
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it's going to be the biggest thing.
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I remember back when Bitcoin started and I thought, oh man,
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this is going to be huge. I, it took me 6 months to get a
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hold of someone at Coinbase because at the time they were,
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they had less than a billion dollars in crypto to try to
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invest with them. And finally I got a call and
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they said that they're not looking for investors.
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So I kind of missed out on that one.
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But yeah, that's kind of like the way that, you know, you see
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that, that I visualize things. I make the mistakes by selling a
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lot of it. And honestly, if every one of my
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employees would have kept all their bitcoins, I would have
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nothing but millionaires working for me at this point because
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because that's how much crypto I, I, I gave them every month
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back in like 2009 era until about the 2000 and 2020.
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But I found out that most of them sold their Bitcoin with an
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exception of couple of them. And they're, they're amazing, do
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it amazingly, doing really well. And they're very happy that they
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kept. But a lot of the employees saw,
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Oh my gosh, you know, I got, you know, $20,000 in crypto and now
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it's worth 60,000 and let me sell it.
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If they kept it, it would be worth somewhere closer to about
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$5 million today. So, so, yeah.
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So I've had a lot of experience, a lot of missed opportunities.
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I've done really well. I've kept a lot of them.
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I did. I am very diversified in crypto,
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though. I have pretty much almost every
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crypto that you can't that's out there.
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And I have also lost a lot with a lot of the tokens that that
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that I got in early on where, you know, you pay, you know, $5
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and then they go down to a penny.
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So yeah, I've made every single mistake in the book.
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Yeah, I think that everyone pays their price of tuition, as we
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like to call it here. It's simply Bitcoin where, you
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know, you, you essentially you make all the mistakes that you
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can't make, right, which is you sell early.
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You don't realize and understand what you have and it's only
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through kind of trials and tribulations through the the
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volatility and huddling over a long period of time where you
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you start to have grow, get an appreciation of what it is that
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you're holding. Opti.
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I'm going to pass it on to you, bro.
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What, what, what are we? What are we looking at?
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First of all, I'm super hyped that Tina's joining us on the
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show today. We're going to be talking about
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SAT 123 later on the later on today's show.
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Guys, it's not only important to become sovereign financially,
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but also sovereign connection wise.
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You gotta be, you gotta become a sovereign individual overall.
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So we're really excited to talk about SAT 123 during the culture
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segment. But before we get to that Opti,
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I'm gonna pass it on to you, dude.
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Are we experiencing a super cycle bro?
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Well, I really wanna believe it, Nico.
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I I really do. I've been saying for a while
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that the Super cycle is coming. Half the time I'm kind of
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trolling. I I just, I again, I'm trying to
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manifest it, guys. But looking at that chart that
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Brad Mills had, while I do like that structure and I actually
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have been kind of saying something similar on the show
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that we might be seeing this like stepwise function in in the
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market where it'll pump kind of goes sideways, chop solid 8 a
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little bit pumps again. And it would really be probably
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like the most boring price action for us Bitcoiners because
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will we never see a parabolic run again?
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You know, as much as everyone's here for just a tech, we love
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when number goes up. You know, you you can't lie to
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yourself and tell us that you don't like that.
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But part of me is still thinking that the four year cycle was
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still kind of in play. Though I have been saying it on
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the show, It does feel like this time is different.
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And as as much as we kind of are basing our, you know, our bear
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case, or rather our base case as a company that we will see a
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four year cycle. I have been been saying on the
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show for a while that we are looking at or potentially
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looking at a more of a longer elongated bear or bull cycle
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here. So a lot of people have been
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saying we're going to be pumping into 2026.
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There's been some new reports of people basically saying like
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it's going to pump into 2026 and 20272028, you know, 7 figure per
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Bitcoin. Now there has been the idea of
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diminishing returns play out a lot on Twitter.
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And if you do look at the data, it does kind of seem to be
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playing out in that scenario that we are seeing diminishing
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returns that the Bitcoin price does kind of pump later than it
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usually did in the past and it's not pumping as hard.
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Now, of course, we only have about 3 or 4 data points to
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really lean on. And I don't know, man, it really
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does feel if there isn't that much paper Bitcoin in the space.
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And that's obviously kind of the big question mark right here is
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where is all the Bitcoin coming from that these corporate
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treasuries are supposedly stacking?
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How much paper Bitcoin is in the system?
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What is suppressing the price here?
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But if you just take it on face value and you look at how much
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demand is coming into Bitcoin in just Fiat terms to acquire
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Bitcoin, every week we have a new Bitcoin treasury company
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talking about acquiring more Bitcoin.
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We've seen, you know, nation states talk about this.
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And so until all that Bitcoin is actually, or rather all that
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Fiat is actually going into the market, I think we can still
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kind of safely say that way. We might be playing out in the
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cycles, but we also have to remember the macro factors that
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are playing into the scenario right now.
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There is a lot of macro uncertainty playing out.
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Of course, there is the big news coming out of the Middle East.
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Of course, we're seeing the bonds market start to blow up.
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It seems like there's cracks in the bond markets.
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We're seeing some of the biggest and most influential investors,
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macro investors come out and essentially say, hey, you need
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to have have some Bitcoin. This is the perfect portfolio.
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You need to have some Bitcoin in that portfolio.
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And of course, the trend by the BRICS nations of dropping bond
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right now, whether that's US bonds or even just not wanting
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bonds in general, they're starting to stack gold.
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We're starting to see more interest going into Bitcoin.
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So I do think this is kind of a perfect storm playing out right
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now. And of course, only 2020 will
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well kind of show us whether the cycle is broken.
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But it does feel like we are entering a.
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New era, a new paradigm here and by that being kind of the case
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here that would I think fundamentally change the
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structure of Bitcoin as we've been kind of talking about
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recently. The halving cycle has kind of
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that it's effect I think on the market is starting to dwindle.
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I don't know if it's over, but the amount of Bitcoin that are
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being mined a day and a year because of the halving, it's a
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lot less on the market. And obviously the market, or
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rather the price isn't being driven by retail FOMO anymore,
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or rather yet, and we're seeing some big institutional cap.
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Literally the biggest markets in the world start to embrace
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Bitcoin. And again, we got to remember
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bitcoins, a $2 trillion market cap.
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There's what, 900 trailer, 1000 trillion dollars in all assets
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around the world. If, if a, if a buyer with huge
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conviction comes into Bitcoin, really wants to stack Bitcoin,
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get a position. I think all bets are off here.
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So, you know, we're watching this closely.
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Of course, as a Bitcoiner, we love the four year cycle.
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It makes life a little easier. You know, 3 green, one red.
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I think we're all kind of hoping we have at least one more cycle
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left in us so that we can stack some Bitcoin.
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But who knows? I wouldn't be surprised if if
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that breaks here, which means, you know, as Tina was saying,
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prepare now, get zero stack Bitcoin, whether it's $5000,
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etcetera. You need to get exposure in
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Bitcoin right now because as the meme goes, we might not ever see
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under 100 again. Nico, I don't know.
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Dude, I've heard that so many times I'll believe it when I see
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it. I do want to give a shout out to
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the live stream. We got 1300 people watching live
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between YouTube and X and almost 400 people watching live on
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Rumble. If you guys are enjoying the
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show so far, make sure to smash that like button.
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We have a hell of a show lined up for you guys.
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Today we're going to be talking about a couple of different
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things. We got Paul Tudor Jones
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basically making the case that everyone should have Bitcoin as
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part of their portfolio thing that Tina was saying earlier on.
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We're sitting at $107,800, man. I mean, I think people are
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getting used to this, bro, 100K is boring now. 100K is boring.
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Like could you imagine saying that two or three years ago,
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hey, man, we were just going to be channeling at 100K.
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Everyone would be ecstatic. But it's getting normalized.
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It's getting normalized. The fact that Bitcoin sitting at
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100K. But I think if you pay attention
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to the fundamentals, things are looking incredibly bullish.
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And then during the new segment, we're going to be talking about
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Metaplanet. So Metaplanet, they finally hit
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10,000 Bitcoin. They over, they overtook
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Coinbase and their stock surged 20% as they made their
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announcement. Pension funds are buying Bitcoin
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as well. A Forbes article dropped
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regarding that. And yeah, guys, it's a, it's a
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brave new world. Bitcoins becoming
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institutionalized in a way, way. I still think there's a
23:15
tremendous amount of opportunity.
23:17
And you know, I think we're going to see half $1,000,000
23:20
Bitcoin a lot sooner than everyone anticipates.
23:24
I just want to pull this up one more time, Opti.
23:26
Let's kind of do like a little bit of a deep dive on this
23:31
before we move on to next segment.
23:33
The so-called sailor cycle man the sailor cycle one time again,
23:38
once again showing it the ETF chasm crossed the so-called wet
23:43
red rave. He was, you know, talking about
23:46
the the previous election and of course now the sailor cycle all
23:51
this treasury companies, you know, kind of getting involved.
23:55
My, my theory on this is basically like, look, like all
24:00
it takes is someone in the chat, what they say, will never see
24:03
Bitcoin under 100K, lol. Smash, buy, smash, buy.
24:07
So yeah, what I will say is this guys, like, look, I think that
24:11
there's gonna be a lot more treasury companies obviously
24:14
'cause like that's the current thing, that's the current fad.
24:16
But I think the more treasury companies join the market,
24:20
they're gonna start cutting corners.
24:21
I think that's gonna they're gonna start cutting corners to
24:23
acquire Bitcoin. They're gonna use Fiat the the
24:26
Fiat kind of debt system to acquire Bitcoin.
24:28
And eventually one of themselves is gonna find themselves over
24:31
leveraged. And what's gonna happen is when
24:34
the price does correct because it it will correct like we will
24:37
have a twenty 3040% correction again, like that is ridiculous
24:42
that that we're not gonna see that type of stuff.
24:45
And all it takes is one of these companies that are over
24:47
leveraged, one of these Bitcoin treasury companies that are over
24:49
leveraged to start creating like this cascading domino effect.
24:54
Now, does that mean that strategy is in trouble?
24:56
No. Does that mean that 21 is in
24:59
trouble? No.
24:59
Does that mean that Nakamoto's in trouble?
25:01
No, absolutely not. But these smaller companies that
25:05
take riskier bets, so to speak, they could potentially find
25:09
themselves in trouble. You know, I'll, I'll stick with
25:11
that. So Opti, I want to get your take
25:13
on that, then Tina's take and then we'll move on to the
25:15
numbers segment. Yeah, well, as I said on Twitter
25:19
this morning, and, and I don't think I, I tweeted it clearly
25:22
enough here, but I was saying, I was saying I don't, I don't like
25:30
this view. I was saying on Twitter this
25:32
morning, it's starting to feel like 100K of last cycle is the
25:38
new norm. As everyone was saying last
25:40
cycle 2021, we're going to 100K. Everyone was super bullish on
25:45
100K. We never made it there.
25:47
And now I'm starting to feel the opposite where we're hearing
25:50
everyone saying, oh, it's only going to go to 150 K and I think
25:54
it's going to overshoot that. I think we're going way higher
25:57
because of all the things you see on this chart here.
25:59
Of course, I don't know about this 10 year bull cycle falling
26:02
the S&P 500, but we are starting to see new demand for Bitcoin
26:06
again. We've unlocked trillions of
26:09
trillions of dollars of capital being able to go into Bitcoin.
26:12
It's starting to get to this point where everyone is taking
26:15
Bitcoin seriously. There was a good comment there.
26:20
Where is retail? I'm going to.
26:22
It's not there. Keep going up.
26:24
To you and and so I do believe that things are changing whether
26:29
they fundamentally change, I think it's a totally different
26:31
conversation. But whether the price does break
26:34
the four year cycle or not, we can still I think all agree on
26:38
one idea. Things are changing.
26:40
This time is different in the sense of who is interested in
26:44
Bitcoin now. Does that mean this time is
26:46
different in terms of the four year cycle?
26:49
We, we could only see this in hindsight, but it is starting to
26:52
feel like a lot of capital is going to get unlocked into
26:55
Bitcoin. And like we just keep
26:57
reiterating to you guys, this is not the time to stop stacking
27:01
Bitcoin. This is not the time to, you
27:03
know, sell your Bitcoin for 100 and you know, 120K or whatever
27:07
you want to maintain as much Bitcoin holdings as possible.
27:10
Take it in the cold storage, don't leave it on exchanges.
27:13
This is what we've been talking about and it's happening and
27:16
here it is. And I think a lot of the
27:18
pushback we're seeing from Bitcoiners in general, I think
27:21
it's kind of a zeitgeist of where we are right now.
27:24
I think Bitcoiners knew that this moment was going to happen
27:26
and when it's happening, we're we're kind of having a hard time
27:29
grasping what is actually happening.
27:31
And we're like, oh, it's getting Co opted and it's like, I'm
27:33
pretty sure this was how it's supposed to happen.
27:36
Or rather maybe not how or it should have happened.
27:38
This is just how it's happening now.
27:40
And I think as long as we're all running nodes taking Bitcoin
27:43
into custody, Bitcoin's decentralized permissionless,
27:46
censorship resistant, you know, features will maintain itself if
27:50
we are all vigilant here again, run a node, take your Bitcoin
27:53
into custody. This is how we win.
27:55
Absolutely Amen to that. I'm gonna pass it on to Tina.
27:58
Tina, you said something extremely wise.
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28:21
Tina. Tina, you said something really
28:24
wise earlier, right? You said just buy a little bit
28:29
every single day, whatever you can afford.
28:32
That is the best strategy. How did you, how did you, you
28:36
know, come up with that strategy?
28:37
How did you get, how did you reach that conclusion in your
28:42
mind that that is the best way forward?
28:45
Yeah, well, everybody's always saying, you know what?
28:48
I can't buy a Bitcoin now. It's over 100,000.
28:51
I'll wait until it goes down, but I've been hearing that since
28:54
it was like $1000. I'll wait till it goes down.
28:57
I'll wait till it goes down. But you know what, just start
29:00
somewhere. And if if you're like on a
29:03
budget and you're barely making ends meet, give something up
29:06
that that you're you're spending money like let you know.
29:09
There's no reason to spend $5 on a cup of coffee.
29:13
You can put be putting $5. Make your own coffee at home and
29:18
put $5. Just start somewhere and you
29:21
know, and, and learn, you know, I mean, look, we, we, we early
29:26
on, we made a lot of mistakes. I've, I've lost so many bitcoins
29:29
to hackers. I've lost, you know, a lot and
29:32
I've learned from all of those. You don't have to learn those
29:35
things because, you know, you get to watch the show and learn
29:39
how to protect yourself. Like like what you just said,
29:43
you said, don't you know, take them off, put them, put them and
29:47
you saved it. Put them in the in, in the file,
29:50
in the code, put them inside of a fare day bag.
29:54
I mean, you know, protect yourself and learn from people
29:57
that made a mistake like myself and people ahead of you.
30:01
A lot of these young people, you know, today are very computer
30:07
savvy. And yeah, so again, I've made,
30:12
I've even printed it, printed my bitcoins and my husband found
30:16
them and he's like, oh, what's this code?
30:17
And you throw them away. So, you know, we've done every
30:20
single mistake in the book and, and you know, we're giving you
30:23
our mistakes, not to make the same mistakes.
30:25
Learn from people like you on what to do and how to protect
30:29
yourself from losing your your bitcoins as well as investing.
30:36
Very, very, very wise words. Yeah.
30:38
Paper wallets, man. Could you imagine paper wallets
30:41
throwing it away? There is this very famous story
30:44
of, you know, someone who basically had 10s of thousands
30:48
of Bitcoin and he had it on a hard drive and he threw away
30:51
that hard drive and it's at a landfill.
30:53
And he just, he's spending all this time basically going
30:57
through a landfill. I've definitely lost a couple
31:00
coins for sure in the past just because I just lost access to
31:04
those keys. So, yeah, but this is all part
31:07
of paying the price of tuition. Back then, you just didn't you
31:10
didn't understand Bitcoins worth and value.
31:13
Now, someone in the chat said something really wise that I
31:16
wanted to cover before we move on to the next segment, which is
31:21
they they brought up the question, where is retail?
31:24
I think that's a very good question.
31:26
I'm going to pull this up. We've been pulling this up quite
31:29
a lot recently and that's a very good question.
31:34
Where is retail? So this is Google Trends.
31:37
It's pretty self-explanatory. It's how much people are
31:41
searching Bitcoin on Google. And as you could see, retail has
31:47
basically peaked in December of 2017.
31:51
It hasn't come back since it kind of came back in 2021 with
31:56
that previous bull market. But as you can see with this
32:00
bull market, you know, look at look at retail.
32:04
Retail is is gone. Retail is not here.
32:07
Retail is not interested in Bitcoin whatsoever, which is why
32:13
I think we still have a we still have a long ways to go.
32:16
This is not euphoria phase territory, my friends.
32:19
This is like disbelief. People just don't know Bitcoin
32:24
exists right now. At the moment, that's what it
32:26
looks like to me anyways. Guys, it's gonna.
32:28
Be oh, no, hold on. There was a good comment here.
32:30
C-Suite retail is in the ETFs and I, I think that's could be
32:34
some of the demand that's being taken off.
32:36
So search. Let let's let's all right, so
32:38
let's. Bitcoin ETFs.
32:40
Yeah. I mean, if that's the case, if
32:42
Bitcoin, if retail's in the ETFs, let's search Bitcoin ETF.
32:48
Let's see. I mean, yeah, kind of true.
32:51
I mean, it peaked in January of 2020, but still it still hasn't,
32:56
you know, it really hasn't. It really hasn't come back since
33:00
like in January 2024. It peaked.
33:03
But I mean, yeah. So I mean, what about
33:06
MicroStrategy? That's a MicroStrategy.
33:10
Let's see, maybe, maybe retails and MicroStrategy.
33:15
No, no. Did I spell it wrong you?
33:18
Got to compare them all together.
33:19
Strategy. There we go.
33:22
Let's let me see. No.
33:31
Nope. What about Sailor?
33:36
Let's see. No.
33:40
OK. Breaking retail is not here.
33:43
I mean, yeah, dude, no, Sailor peaked in 2021.
33:49
Retail's not here. Retail's not here.
33:51
The retail is not in the building here at the moment.
33:54
Anyways, guys, going to be a great show.
33:56
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33:58
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37:23
number segment. At the time I'm recording, the
37:25
Bitcoin price is 107,800 block height 901,537 sats per dollar,
37:32
928 sats per dollar Market cap 2.14 trillion Bitcoin versus
37:37
gold market cap 8.92% Percentage issued 94.66% decline from all
37:44
time high -3.8%, three negative 3.7% Realized monetary inflation
37:50
.85%. Anyways, I have a very
37:54
interesting clip of Paul Tudor Jones saying the quiet part out
37:58
loud that everyone should have Bitcoin as part of their
38:02
portfolio. Let's check it out.
38:04
Great. Which would do terribly if we
38:06
ever actually had if if they called us out and the bond
38:10
market actually gave us an accident that then spilled over.
38:14
But it would be some combination of probably gold, Vol adjusted
38:19
Bitcoin, gold stocks. That's probably your best
38:24
portfolio to fight inflation Vol adjusted because the Vol of
38:29
bitcoins obviously five times out of gold.
38:31
So you're going to you're going to do it in in different ways.
38:35
You said at one point you would allocate 1 or 2% of your
38:39
portfolio to Bitcoin. Is it still Yeah.
38:41
I mean, I think you just particularly now that the, that
38:46
the road map is clear, then I, I mean the the, the again, if I'm
38:51
a policy maker, I'm going to run really low real rates.
38:56
I'm going to have inflation running hot and I'm going to tax
39:01
the American consumer to get out of my debt trap.
39:05
And that's exactly what Japan, who's the most fiscally
39:08
constrained in the world doing. And it works until, until the
39:12
population throws you out because you let inflation get
39:15
too hot. So, so I mean, extremely wise
39:19
words, right? You know, talking about
39:21
essentially the debt trap, right?
39:23
This unsustainable fiscal trajectory that the United
39:26
States is heading towards. Lynn Alden calls it nothing
39:30
stops this train. Larry Leopard calls it the big
39:33
print. Even Jerome Powell, the chairman
39:37
of the Federal Reserve, basically making the argument
39:39
that, hey, guys, that the US current fiscal policy is
39:43
unsustainable. Everyone's admitting this.
39:45
And what Paul Tudor Jones is basically making the argument
39:48
for is like, look, there is really no way to get out of this
39:52
other than to print or to tax the population.
39:55
I think taxes are at a point right now where I just don't
39:59
think you could raise them either.
40:02
Political party can raise them and it would be political.
40:05
It would be, it would be popular politically.
40:08
I, I really believe that we're at that point.
40:11
So I think that their only option is Larry Leopard's book
40:15
name the big Print. They're gonna print money.
40:18
If they print money, you're gonna have inflation.
40:20
And what Paul Tudor Jones is basically making the argument
40:23
for is like, look. What protects you when you know
40:26
government prints money, hard assets, Gold or Bitcoin, right?
40:31
I think bitcoin's superior to gold in many different ways,
40:35
obviously because of its physical character, because of
40:38
its characteristics, because there's absolute scarcity.
40:42
Gold doesn't have absolute scarcity.
40:44
So yeah, I mean, like, that's pretty crazy, though.
40:47
Again, moving the Overton window, going on legacy media
40:50
and basically saying the quiet part out loud.
40:54
Hey, guys, look, nothing stops this train.
40:58
They're going to have to print their way out of this.
41:00
And if you want to protect yourself, you're going to have
41:02
to buy yourself some Bitcoin. And it's funny because the
41:06
anchor, Paul said a couple of different things, right?
41:10
He said there's a couple of different options that people
41:13
had to, to, you know, to buy or to do this to kind of get out of
41:18
inflation. And what's really interesting is
41:21
the anchor only asked him of a Bitcoin.
41:23
He's like, so are you still sticking to that one to 2%
41:27
portfolio allocation for Bitcoin completely ignored gold and the
41:31
other things that he said. And that's the signal right
41:34
there, Opti. And then I'm going to pass it on
41:35
to Tina. Yeah.
41:37
I mean, I think as we've seen in the recent weeks, we have some
41:41
of the biggest billionaires investors, you know, macro
41:46
investors start to very publicly come out against Bitcoin Now.
41:50
I know there's a lot of people. Come out against Bitcoin.
41:54
Oh, sorry, sorry. Come out for Bitcoin in
41:57
particular, Ray Dalio, Paul Tudor Jones, you know,
42:00
Druckenmiller, they're like a lot of really big names are
42:03
essentially saying the same thing, You know, Larry Fink,
42:06
they're all essentially saying the same thing.
42:08
Hey, there is a problem with inflation.
42:11
There may be a problem structurally, systemically with
42:14
the bond market. There's a lot of concerns going
42:17
on right now and you probably want to own this Bitcoin thing
42:21
that is completely parallel to system.
42:24
It's an inflation hedge. I know we've seen Bitcoin kind
42:26
of react sort of like a high beta, high beta talk tech stock
42:31
play right now. So it is kind of, you know, in
42:34
in that risky category right now, but there will be a point
42:38
when it breaks. And I think the fact we're
42:40
seeing like the Ray Dalio's of the world turn around and switch
42:43
100% for Bitcoin when they used to be like, I'm, I'm not going
42:47
into it. I think we're starting to see
42:49
that the signal is spreading and people are very curious and very
42:54
sober looking at Bitcoin and being like this might actually
42:57
be what all these crazy kids on the Internet have been saying.
43:00
It might actually be the thing that fixes the system.
43:03
It might be the true inflation unparalleled hedge that we've
43:06
been saying for a long time. They are still a little
43:09
conservative and basically saying hey, you know, just buy
43:11
125 percent something that that makes you feel comfortable here.
43:16
You don't have to go full, you know, full Twitter DJN go 100
43:20
hundred 50% and you don't have to go full sailor on this, but
43:23
you need to hold some of it. And I think as we start to get
43:26
people a little more used to the idea of actually holding
43:30
Bitcoin, then the dominoes are going to fall.
43:33
I think it's every one of us know when you when you get into
43:36
Bitcoin, you kind of dip your toes into it.
43:38
And then next thing you know, you're like, I am dedicating my
43:40
whole life to this. I'm not going to buy chairs.
43:42
Like I don't want to buy anything but Bitcoin.
43:44
And I think we're starting to see the beginning of those
43:47
Domino's fall. So again, it's going to get
43:50
crazy. And I think as things get more
43:54
chaotic in the world, people are going to finally get to where we
43:58
think, you know, Bitcoin is our stable coin, Bitcoin is our
44:02
safety net. Bitcoin is the safest thing to
44:04
be holding right now. It just hasn't fully been, you
44:07
know, distributed through the popular culture, the popular
44:10
zeitgeist yet. But it's getting there.
44:12
And we are in the beginning innings of this.
44:14
Absolutely. And now I want to ask Tina.
44:15
Tina, as a business owner, as an entrepreneur yourself, Tina,
44:21
what would be the proper Bitcoin allocation for you as an
44:25
individual and you as a business?
44:29
Yeah. So I'll tell you my investments.
44:32
So I have 25% in crypto, majority of it is in Bitcoin.
44:36
I've got 25% in gold and silver, platinum.
44:40
And then I've got 25% in into stocks and bonds and all the
44:47
other stuff that that's very volatile.
44:53
And then the other 25%, I invest in start-ups and but I keep no
44:58
cash hardly ever because I think cash is kind of dying.
45:04
They're printing is just a printer.
45:07
So I do invest a lot in in, but in startup companies.
45:12
So yeah. Very, very wise too. 25% of of
45:19
your net worth in Bitcoin, mostly in Bitcoin.
45:22
Part of that that that's very aggressive.
45:25
I would say for, for, you know, for most people, successful
45:29
people, you know, they, they like to dip their toes in a
45:32
little bit, but that tells me that you essentially have lost
45:36
trust in the system. You, you're basically saying,
45:39
you know what, I'm going to put 25% of my net worth in Bitcoin,
45:44
I'm going to invest in, you know, in startups.
45:46
And, and that's also kind of risky because the majority of
45:49
startups don't work out so much. But of course you get 1, you get
45:51
winners here and there. But that tells me that, you
45:55
know, you don't have confidence in, in Fiat money, you don't
45:58
have confidence in the dollar. You have confidence in Bitcoin
46:02
and you're putting your, you know, you're putting your money
46:05
where your mouth is. Yeah, yeah.
46:08
Usually about one out of 10 startups that I invest in that
46:11
pays out, but usually when they do pay off, they pay out really
46:15
good. It's a risk that you have to
46:17
take. And a lot of the start-ups that
46:19
I invest in then usually, usually I pursue them.
46:27
Like when I see a product, like a new product, I remember when I
46:31
saw it, like back in old days when I saw somebody gave me a
46:34
Fitbit, I'm like, what the sinks to this was like way back before
46:39
the stuff existed. And so when I find a product
46:42
that I totally love, I will contact the companies and become
46:47
an investor. And that's kind of like how you
46:50
doing. And I, you know, I get people
46:51
that approach me and if they've had a, a good history of a
46:56
product that they've done in the past that was successful, I'll
47:00
invest in those new products. But that's kind of like what I
47:03
like to do. But so far, by far, Bitcoin has
47:06
been one of my, one of my best investment.
47:11
The most, you know, money that I've made is through a Bitcoin.
47:15
My stocks have done like absolutely not much.
47:20
No, it makes sense. It makes sense.
47:21
Bitcoin's the winner and and that is kind of like the start
47:24
up game for anyone. I've been only focused on the
47:27
kind of the Bitcoin space, but that invested in a couple
47:31
start-ups only in Bitcoin, but that's it's, it's a numbers
47:33
game, right. So you know, you get base out of
47:36
10, you know, expect 8 of them to fail, expect one of them to
47:41
do OK and then expect one to be a home run and it kind of makes
47:45
up for all the other ones, right?
47:47
That's kind of like the, the kind of like the odds in the
47:49
start up stuff. But yeah, I mean it, it's
47:52
extremely exciting and it's obviously Tina.
47:54
It seems like you, you know, you, you, you, you really got
47:56
this system honed in. But what really makes me excited
48:00
is that you know, you're in you're a successful CEO, you
48:04
have a successful company and you still see Bitcoin as a
48:09
necessity to park some of your net worth, to park some of your
48:14
wealth and that you've lost confidence in the dollar.
48:17
I mean, that tells me guys, again that we're that we're
48:21
winning, that the Overton window is shifting, Bitcoin is becoming
48:25
acceptable. And just to kind of connect the
48:27
dots with what what Paul Tudor Jones was saying, yes, this is
48:31
this is just becoming mainstream at this point, right?
48:35
Bitcoin should be part at this point, you should have no
48:38
excuse. Bitcoin should be part of your
48:41
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48:43
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48:47
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49:13
flying. And we have a Forbes article
49:15
that's basically saying that pension funds are buying
49:19
Bitcoin, basically making a new path.
49:22
Not surprising there at all. Again, bitcoin's the best
49:25
performing asset of the last, you know what, 1516 years.
49:30
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We're going to be talking about Meta Planet.
53:15
Meta Planet officially holds 10,000 Bitcoin beating Coinbase.
53:21
Could you imagine being Coinbase?
53:23
You get into the industry 2013 and a company that literally
53:28
started accumulating Bitcoin last year has overtook your
53:33
Bitcoin stack. Not a good look for Coinbase.
53:35
But anyhow, let's get straight into the article.
53:38
Metaplan it's Bitcoin holdings hit 10,000 BTC beating Coinbase.
53:43
It goes on to say Japanese investment firm metaplan.
53:47
It's latest 1112 coin purchase has finally tips its total
53:53
Bitcoin holdings to 10,000 Bitcoin, surpassing Coinbase as
53:57
the 7th largest publicly traded company with a Bitcoin treasury.
54:02
On Monday, Metaplanet announced that had purchased the Bitcoin
54:05
stack for 16.88 billion Japanese yen, or 117 million U.S.
54:11
dollars. The firm now holds 10,000
54:14
Bitcoin, beating Coinbase's 9267 Bitcoin.
54:19
The average price of Metaplanets 10,000 Bitcoin now stands at
54:24
approximately 96,400 per Bitcoin.
54:28
It comes just two weeks after Metaplanet became the 8th
54:31
largest corporate holder of Bitcoin.
54:33
Metaplanet issues $210 million worth of bonds to buy Bitcoin.
54:39
It came the same day Metaplanet announced that it's board of
54:41
directors has resolved it's issue.
54:44
Excuse me had resolved to issue 210 million via no interest
54:49
bonds and that it raised that figure to buy more Bitcoin.
54:53
The firm has drastically revised its Bitcoin strategy in recent
54:56
months and now intends to hold 210,000 Bitcoin by the end of
55:02
2027. Can they get bro?
55:04
I mean like that's a very big target.
55:10
How do you get from 10,000 Bitcoin to 210,000?
55:13
I don't know. I don't know.
55:14
But I will tell you though, if like this is great for number go
55:18
up that that's what I'll say. This is a this is fantastic for
55:21
number go up. So far, Metaplanet has completed
55:24
the purchase of 10,000 BTC. That's a long ways to go and
55:28
we'll need to buy an additional 200,000 Bitcoin over the next 18
55:33
months. Metaplanet stock rallied over
55:36
20%. The back-to-back announcement
55:38
has seen the price of Metaplanet share soar drastically over the
55:43
day. Metaplanet stock rally 22% on
55:46
Monday on the Tokyo Stock Exchange, peaking at 1860
55:51
Japanese yen. Metaplanet stock has seen an
55:55
uptick of more than 417% year to date.
56:00
Institutional demand is still going strong.
56:02
Despite the recent crash, where Bitcoin dropped from 110,000 to
56:06
103,000 in a span of three days due to geopolitical tensions,
56:11
demand from institutional investors has remained steady.
56:15
You know what the crazy part is, bro?
56:17
That, that all that stuff in the Middle East, we dropped from 110
56:21
down to 103 and we're back at 108, right?
56:25
Like, that's crazy. Anyways.
56:27
Bitcoin ETFs witnessed 5 days of net inflows last week, with
56:31
institutional investors pouring in over 1.3 billion during the
56:36
period. On Saturday, Bitwise Asset
56:39
Manager CEO Hunter Horsley said that Bitcoin had the potential
56:43
to overtake the 30 trillion, 30 trillion treasuries market.
56:48
I mean, dude, that's crazy. That's like a 15X from here.
56:51
There's also this article from Forbes.
56:54
As pension funds buy Bitcoin, a new path in its history is
56:58
traced. It goes on to say, I'm not going
57:00
to read the whole thing, we don't have time.
57:01
But it goes on to say we've seen wave of big institutional
57:04
players adopt Bitcoin, even traditionally conservative
57:07
players. The talk of the town has been
57:10
nation state adoption of Bitcoin, from El Salvador's
57:12
experiment with Bitcoin as legal tender to recent actions in the
57:16
United States with the new administration.
57:18
Yet pension funds are inching in as well.
57:21
A reflection of this has been the small but growing number of
57:24
pension funds that are adopting Bitcoin, a unique phenomenon
57:28
that marks a unique path in Bitcoin's evolution that has
57:32
remained understudied for the moment.
57:35
The State of Wisconsin's pension fund has adopted Bitcoin through
57:38
investment in spot Bitcoin ETFs, an unnamed UK pension scheme.
57:43
Does that say scheme UK pension scheme has a three per?
57:50
That makes it sound like weird and I know anyway.
57:53
A unnamed UK pension has made a 3% allocation to Bitcoin.
57:58
Working with Cartwright, the state of Michigan's retirement
58:01
system has made a multi $1,000,000 investment in Bitcoin
58:05
ETF. And while it's small steps at
58:07
the beginning, as more institutions gather Bitcoin,
58:10
this is a promising path forward for adoption.
58:13
Much of the background research and points came out of a
58:16
conversation with two sources who had vast experience with
58:20
pension fund allocation. Sam Roberts of Cartwright, which
58:24
has advised AUK based pension fund to allocate 3% towards
58:29
Bitcoin. And Dombe shot our boy Dom of
58:32
proof of workforce, which has helped various unions save
58:36
holdings in Bitcoin. So I'm going to leave it at
58:38
that. I mean, this is crazy.
58:40
Bitcoin is taking over. Pension funds are buying
58:44
Bitcoin. Bitcoin is outperforming in the
58:47
traditional markets. Metaplanet up 14417% year to
58:53
date. Micro strategy, also an
58:57
incredible performance, Treasury companies popping up left and
59:01
right. Adam Back just announced that he
59:03
made, I think it was like a $10 million investment in a Bitcoin
59:06
treasury company coming out of Sweden.
59:09
So this is spreading. Bitcoin is winning.
59:11
This is what winning looks like. This is what winning feels like,
59:15
feels incredible. Tina, where do you think we're
59:17
going from here? Well, it sounds to me like I
59:20
need to look up Meta planet so and invest in that.
59:25
So yeah, no, I totally agree. I think you know that by the end
59:30
of this year, I think that Bitcoin could hit 200,000.
59:34
And I believe once it reaches the 200,000, it ain't going to
59:38
look back. It's just going to continue to
59:40
shoot up and, and again, you know, whatever you can afford,
59:45
whether I think whether it's, you know, $50 a week or $100 or
59:50
you know, $1000 a week or 5000, I, I always encourage, I
59:55
encourage my employees, my friends, my family to continue
59:59
to buy, to buy. And, and there's a lot of
1:00:03
people, I think if you look at my.
1:00:06
Facebook post from years ago I was warning people, you know, my
1:00:11
friends and family, and they all thought I was crazy and very few
1:00:15
people believed me. And, you know, today they're all
1:00:18
kicking themselves for not taking, you know, advice.
1:00:22
So now it's it's you're like almost at the beginning, 100,000
1:00:28
is going to look like a drop in a bucket.
1:00:30
In five years from now when it's a million, you're going to kick
1:00:33
yourself for not buying it at 100,000.
1:00:36
So that's kind of like my advice.
1:00:41
That that I, I completely agree. I couldn't.
1:00:44
I couldn't resist. I had to hit the air horns. 100K
1:00:47
is gonna look like a drop in the bucket a couple years from now.
1:00:53
Yeah, and it's always happened. I remember when Bitcoin was at
1:00:55
10,000. I was like, this is so
1:00:57
expensive. I know people that bought it for
1:00:59
$100 or bought it for 1000. Could you imagine buying $10,000
1:01:03
Bitcoin right now? It'd be feel.
1:01:05
It would feel great. It would feel fantastic.
1:01:07
Right. I mean, imagine buying $1000,
1:01:09
$1.00 Bitcoin. That'd feel great.
1:01:11
It'd feel. Fantastic.
1:01:12
So yeah, I I completely agree with Tina's take and outlook.
1:01:16
Bitcoin is taking over the world.
1:01:19
Maybe it's a good idea to get some just in case it catches on.
1:01:21
Opti, what's your take on this before we move on to the
1:01:24
culture? Yeah.
1:01:25
My, my quick take is just continuing to reiterate that
1:01:28
number that there's only 450 Bitcoin that get released a day.
1:01:33
And with the amount of buy pressure that we're seeing with
1:01:36
the amount of all these convertible nodes, the, the
1:01:40
institutional capital starting to FOMO into Bitcoin, it's hard
1:01:44
to see how we're not going to get into crazy 6 figure numbers
1:01:49
here. It just like it makes no sense
1:01:51
to me. The math isn't math.
1:01:53
And, and if this continues or rather accelerates, I think
1:01:58
we're going to be overshooting our price predictions here.
1:02:01
And I'm and you know, shout out to Tina because I've been saying
1:02:04
the same thing 200K I've I've been just throwing that number
1:02:08
out for over a year now. And now it like the data is
1:02:12
starting to catch up to what I felt.
1:02:14
But again, you know, I could be wrong, who knows?
1:02:16
I don't know where it's going. But with all of this information
1:02:20
and rather all of the supposed Bitcoin to get supposed Bitcoin
1:02:23
that's being bought up, it's hard how it's hard to see how
1:02:27
this price isn't going to go into the 200 three, 100K and
1:02:30
maybe these crazy numbers that you know, Max Kaiser has been
1:02:33
throwing out or Samson Mao has been throwing out.
1:02:35
Like it could go even higher. It could overshoot everything
1:02:38
we're thinking about right now. And look, this is only the first
1:02:41
six months of the year. It seems like the first three
1:02:43
months of this year it was kind of slow.
1:02:45
And in the last three months it seems to be in picking up really
1:02:48
quickly. So I don't know, man, it, I'm
1:02:51
starting to get bullish every single day, every single block,
1:02:54
it seems like it's going to get crazy.
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Tina, could you tell everybody a little bit about SAT 123 while I
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do this? Yeah.
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So the satellite phone that you're opening is an Iridium
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This will work on 100% of the Earth.
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This is the phone that the military uses the the Senate,
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there's an hurricane, as we saw last year during hurricane.
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Was it Helene? Yeah.
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And the people that had satellite phones in North
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Carolina were able to call and, and for the whole community and
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get the right products from first responders.
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So we were working with the first responders at the same
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they needed. So when one person again had a
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satellite phone in a community, was able to help the whole
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I mean, it's just, it's the craziest thing that's not going
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You know, like what? What are you doing?
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No, no, no, no. So this is a Faraday bag, right?
1:08:45
So this is one of the best places.
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If you have a cold card, you put it in this bad boy, and I'm
1:08:51
telling you, there's gonna be no type of electrical interference,
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anything. Nothing's gonna be able to get
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in here, right, Electronic wise, right?
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So if you wanna put your cold card in a place where it's
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electronically secure, you want to put it in a Faraday bag,
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right? And they sell them in all
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Tina was nice enough to give me the, the, the Fanny pack version
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at Bitcoin 2025. And I put my phone in there and
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I was just walking around with it all day.
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They also have these batteries. So it's all about, again,
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achieving your sovereignty. We have a little bit of a green
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But this is the ultimate AC power Bank has a lot of capacity
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to power 2 laptops, 3 tablets, 8 phones.
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Yeah, it's a good battery. And here in Florida, you know
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what happens in the last three weeks at my house, the power has
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gone out after you've been here, the power has gone out there.
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There is literally a transformer that exploded outside.
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And the power went out in my in my neighborhood for like about,
1:10:17
you know, a couple hours. And again, this is what these
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things are for, right? It's all about sovereignty.
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It's all about not relying on the grid and not relying on the
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local infrastructure. And if you're one of those
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Bitcoiners that, you know, again, are nomads, if you're one
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of those Bitcoiners that are, you know, going to Patagonia and
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setting up, you know, a Bitcoin citadel in the middle of
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nowhere, you got to guys, you guys, you guys got to get
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yourself one of these things. I got to, I have, I have a
1:10:46
question for you, Tina, the Iridium phone.
1:10:50
Does this work anywhere around the world?
1:10:52
It will work from anywhere on Earth.
1:10:55
If you just take it outside, you extend the antenna, you'll catch
1:10:58
a satellite and you will be able to make a call to anyone if they
1:11:03
don't have to have another satellite phone from anywhere on
1:11:06
earth. And having this, I mean, we were
1:11:10
seeing, you know, we saw the fires this year in, in LA
1:11:14
Luckily we have a place in San Diego.
1:11:16
So we were able to bring a lot of these to the fire departments
1:11:21
so that they can communicate. The communication is huge, not
1:11:25
just for you know the government for us as well for the and
1:11:29
that's why it's affordable now going now keep in mind satellite
1:11:34
cell phones work on like 7% of the earth.
1:11:36
These will cover 100% of the Earth.
1:11:38
I wanted to go back on your the fair day.
1:11:41
You're right, you can get any fair day products.
1:11:44
Now keep in mind if we do get attack with, if we do have an
1:11:48
EMF, whether it's solar flare or just the bad guys attacking our
1:11:52
electrical, because obviously the bad guys would attack our
1:11:57
electrical over bombing us because attacking our electrical
1:12:02
is pretty much crippling our whole country.
1:12:05
Everything that's inside here, whether it's your hard wallet,
1:12:09
your, your, your disk, anything that you keep, anything
1:12:12
electronics is going to be protected if it's in here.
1:12:16
And then I also want to bring up to you that if you ever want to
1:12:20
go dark, so that either, you know, you're not, nobody can
1:12:24
track you. The second that you put your
1:12:27
phone, your cell phone in here, it completely goes dark compared
1:12:31
to if you put on airplane mode or if you power off.
1:12:34
There's a low battery, low mode battery that's in your iPhone
1:12:38
that can still track you up to 72 hours.
1:12:42
But the second that you put your phone in here, the tracking is
1:12:46
completely stopped. No one can track you.
1:12:48
No one can see your location and also protects you from EMF.
1:12:53
You don't want to expose yourself 24/7 to EMF especially
1:12:57
when you go to sleep at night. You can still hear the music
1:13:00
through the the case and you can still hear your alarm clock.
1:13:05
But the EMF is is 100% stop so that you can get a better sleep
1:13:10
and not expose yourself to 24/7 EMF.
1:13:13
Absolutely, Absolutely. I actually did that last night.
1:13:16
I put my iPhone on air and airplane mode and I put it in
1:13:22
one of the Faraday bags that that I got at Bitcoin 2025 and I
1:13:27
shut off the Wi-Fi in my bedroom and I swear to God, I got better
1:13:31
sleep, you know? So I think there's some truth to
1:13:36
what Doctor Cruz is saying. Last thing I wanted to show too.
1:13:40
Actually, I have a couple more things to show and we're going
1:13:44
to be doing a kind of live unboxing of this Opti.
1:13:47
Let's see if we could fit it guys.
1:13:49
You want Internet anywhere around the world, right?
1:13:52
They got the star link at sat123.com, right?
1:13:56
And this is a great way to get Internet any basically almost
1:14:00
anywhere around the world. If you're kind of in the middle
1:14:03
of nowhere, this is a great kind of way to get yourself high
1:14:07
speed Internet with those satellites floating in orbit.
1:14:12
Opti, you want to continue the conversation while I'll unbox
1:14:15
this. Yeah, of course.
1:14:16
So, Tina, this is this has been amazing.
1:14:21
Let's do one more kind of conversation.
1:14:22
I'm. Having so much.
1:14:24
Fun. Yeah, you got to show them why
1:14:25
you unbox it. Let let's just talk like ideal
1:14:29
customer. You brought it up in the
1:14:31
beginning, but you know who are these products for?
1:14:34
I know our audience probably gets it.
1:14:36
We're seeing people in the chat basically be like.
1:14:38
Look at how many people scan the.
1:14:40
Yeah, everyone in the chat is like, wow, I actually need this.
1:14:43
I need a Faraday bag. I'm trying to build a Bitcoin
1:14:45
citadel off the grid. The satellite phone might work.
1:14:48
Someone said I was waiting for a Starlink.
1:14:51
Now you have all of these, but are these products just for, I
1:14:55
don't want to say, you know, people that want to live off the
1:14:58
grid, as you kind of mentioned earlier, these are good prep
1:15:01
products to have for people for potential, you know, just
1:15:05
natural disasters here. So who would you say is the
1:15:07
ideal customer? Currently everyone is is an
1:15:12
ideal customer, especially if you live in the hurricane zone.
1:15:17
Tornado zone. I mean, we've seen everything
1:15:19
earthquakes in California, the riots in California.
1:15:23
We have backpacks that are fair day and bulletproof.
1:15:27
I mean, you see people running from line of fire on the news
1:15:31
all the time, but it with their backpacks.
1:15:35
Wouldn't it be better if you had a backpack that was bulletproof
1:15:39
and, and that's kind of the products that we're selling.
1:15:43
These are really nice backpacks that we designed.
1:15:47
Here it is. Here's one of them.
1:15:48
Is this one bulletproof? It is, yeah.
1:15:51
All of you backpacks are bulletproofs, so.
1:15:54
So it's kind of nice having a bulletproof backpack and a fair
1:15:58
day. One of the reasons why we
1:16:00
created the fair day pocket for the school kids is so that the
1:16:05
kids can put their phone inside their fair day so it doesn't
1:16:08
ring during school time, but they can still have it with them
1:16:11
where parents can reach their kids to get them the messages if
1:16:16
they need to. And so yeah, no, they're,
1:16:20
they're amazing. Plus it keeps the radiation away
1:16:23
from your kids bodies. There's no reason for the phone
1:16:25
to be in the backpack and, and generating radiation EMF to your
1:16:31
body. It's a lot better and safer to
1:16:35
put it. There's a lot of studies that
1:16:36
are showing that EMF is one of the, the biggest, one of the
1:16:40
largest cause of cancer in young generation because that are
1:16:44
exposed to it. We have beanies that will
1:16:47
protect your brain and your head from EMF that you can wear when
1:16:51
you're on a computer working, especially if you work 8 hours a
1:16:54
day. Limit yourself.
1:16:57
One of the things I always tell people to, one of the biggest
1:17:00
studies, the doctors that I've listened to is distance
1:17:03
yourself. Don't put your, don't put your
1:17:05
phone next to your ear. A lot of thyroid cancer is is on
1:17:09
the rise because of that. 1010 inches is what they're
1:17:14
recommending. Keep the phone 10 inches away
1:17:16
from you and you just got to do everything you can to protect
1:17:19
yourself. And Faraday products will block
1:17:22
EMFEMP and it will block tracking 100%.
1:17:28
Absolutely, absolutely. And This is why, again, guys,
1:17:31
this is like the perfect store for Bitcoiners.
1:17:34
We're seeing it in the chat. Everyone's like, Oh my God, I
1:17:37
got it. I got to get this stuff.
1:17:38
So yes guys, Starlink battery backup satellite phones again,
1:17:43
the perfect kit or sovereign individuals looking to buy
1:17:48
looking to build a Bitcoin citadel.
1:17:50
It's a one stop shop and you can use promo code simply to get 15%
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off Opti. Can you continue the
1:17:57
conversation while I look look, look for more stuff from the
1:18:00
care package? OK, OK.
1:18:02
Actually, I mean, Tina, we did talk about it earlier, but I
1:18:06
just love the story that you were telling us about how long
1:18:09
you've been in Bitcoin. Actually, I really want to kind
1:18:12
of pivot this because you did bring up the idea that you gave
1:18:17
your employees Bitcoin with the idea of it being a 401K and you
1:18:23
said that was in like 2010 or what have you.
1:18:26
Now that idea is catching on. Nico and I don't have 401 KS.
1:18:29
I know our audience, probably half of them don't have 401 KS.
1:18:33
So what made you take that decision so early?
1:18:36
And for the people that are on the sidelines thinking these
1:18:39
people are crazy, what would be your like 2 minute elevator
1:18:42
pitch on that? Right, so when I first started
1:18:46
the company, we didn't have very much money coming in.
1:18:49
We were only a $5,000,000 a year company.
1:18:52
So I, I couldn't do four O 1 case for for the employees.
1:18:59
So and and I felt really guilty. I felt really bad because you
1:19:03
know, my employees, they give the heart and soul to the
1:19:05
company. And by the way, I have the, we
1:19:08
have the same employees as we did for for nearly 20 years now.
1:19:13
We've hired new people, but we, you know, our employees are very
1:19:16
dedicated. And I thought, you know, I need
1:19:18
to do something. And I knew that crypto was going
1:19:21
to increase and I thought, well, I can't give them, you know, a
1:19:26
huge but what I could do is give them a future where they can
1:19:30
retire. Well, you know, and that's the
1:19:32
reason why, you know, I did it. Now I had no idea that as they
1:19:38
were getting them, as they were doubling and tripling that they
1:19:42
were selling them because they were so excited.
1:19:44
And again, except exception of a couple, but, but I should have
1:19:50
also given them a little bit more advice not to sell, but I
1:19:54
thought I had done a good job on that.
1:19:56
And, and as it turned out, but they're, they're still happy.
1:19:59
A lot of them still have a lot, you know, some of these keep in
1:20:03
mind at the time, like Ripple was only like two or three
1:20:07
cents. So I would buy, you know,
1:20:09
$10,000 in Ripple and split it between, you know, 30 employees.
1:20:14
That was a lot of Ripple at the time.
1:20:18
Same thing with some of the other like Cardano and and you
1:20:23
know some of the other crypto, but most of the investment for
1:20:28
them it wasn't Bitcoin. Amazing.
1:20:33
I'm sure. Actually I think you said off,
1:20:35
off air one person held throughout that whole time.
1:20:38
So I'm sure they're very happy you made that decision.
1:20:41
Yeah, actually 2 and both of the two ladies they're accounting.
1:20:49
That makes sense. That makes.
1:20:50
Perfect sense. So the sales people, not so
1:20:53
much. So last thing I wanted to show
1:20:58
is you could charge your battery with solar.
1:21:01
That's right, ladies and gentlemen, not only battery
1:21:04
packs, we got solar charging kits as well.
1:21:07
I'm going to be doing an unboxing.
1:21:08
I'm this is like Christmas for me right now.
1:21:10
I'm really enjoying this. So it's very compact.
1:21:14
You can put this in your ballistic proof EMF backpack and
1:21:21
it's basically a solar array of which you can use this to charge
1:21:28
your, you know, charge yourself. I think it's actually getting
1:21:31
some charge from the lights. So this is.
1:21:35
Pretty. That's crazy blue lights.
1:21:37
This is pretty cool, right? Like it should be frying us
1:21:40
right now. Blue light frying us we.
1:21:42
Should be why don't we have an EM?
1:21:43
We should get an EMF beanie from SAT 123 right now bro.
1:21:47
Yeah, definitely need a tinfoil hat we're getting.
1:21:51
No, that would that would make it worse.
1:21:53
Yeah, actually. You do have them.
1:21:55
We did send them to you. I want to point out on that one
1:21:58
that you're holding. Did you know for the Starlink
1:22:01
and the battery pack that you showed earlier and that solar
1:22:05
panel is all you need to be able to get service for up to 2 1/2
1:22:11
hours per charge from middle of nowhere.
1:22:14
So if you want to go camping, and I did this, I went camping
1:22:17
for two weeks until it got too hot in Las Vegas and and I had
1:22:23
this and I had the the small, the battery that you have and I
1:22:27
was able to complete my work. I only work a couple hours a
1:22:30
day, but from middle of nowhere every single day.
1:22:33
And then the rest of the time, you know, my battery pack was
1:22:37
getting charged by the solar panel.
1:22:38
But that's all you need to be able to work off the grid for as
1:22:42
long as you want. I did it for two weeks in April,
1:22:46
so it's it it really is amazing. Now for your for your Starlink,
1:22:53
I also sent you this. It's a computer bag, but it's
1:22:58
got a fair day in there and you can put your Starlink and you
1:23:01
can put all of your electrical so that it can protect protect
1:23:05
from an EMP attack. Everything will fit inside your
1:23:09
solar, your battery pack, and your Starlink will all fit in
1:23:14
here. Plus this is bulletproof not to
1:23:18
not so that you can protect your Starlink so that you can use in
1:23:21
case you're in a line of fire. If you're in a car, if you're
1:23:24
driving through Los Angeles, I heard some gunshot driving
1:23:27
through Los Angeles, you can just take this and put it
1:23:29
against the window to to protect yourself.
1:23:32
Study shows if you have anything bulletproof, if you're in a line
1:23:36
of fire, you have a 90% higher chances of survival if you
1:23:41
react. Absolutely, absolutely.
1:23:43
It's still going to hurt, but at least it's not going to
1:23:46
penetrate. And I think that's the that's
1:23:48
the important part, right? So guys, go to
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