Latest / Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison / ROR 187: Violated, Part 2
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hello, this is a prebate call from and if the
- 0:06Speaker 1: present Department of Correction read an in state prison to
- 0:10Speaker 1: accept this, all press zero. This is Randall bab.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Aka Read on you, Randy. I'm currently serving one thousand,
- 0:24Speaker 2: two hundred and fourteen years for capital murder and on
- 0:27Speaker 2: robbery now and finally at a level three fucking air
- 0:34Speaker 2: correctional Center. So always throw from where I grew up.
- 0:39Speaker 2: If you have any questions or comments and want to
- 0:41Speaker 2: leave a message or whatever, I've got a voicemail line.
- 0:45Speaker 2: That number is one eight eight eight five ZU four
- 0:50Speaker 2: one nine three suit. You can also visit my website
- 0:55Speaker 2: which is new and improved and got different features and
- 0:58Speaker 2: whatnot at deput debt red on Yourandy dot com. I
- 1:03Speaker 2: hope you do. Let's get started with the podcast, all right, everybody,
- 1:11Speaker 2: it's Read On Your Randy and I'm back with Kyle
- 1:13Speaker 2: Hobert from Cheshire Madness on Substack for y'all. This is
- 1:21Speaker 2: the second.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Week for me.
- 1:23Speaker 2: It's I'm in the middle of the conversation. So you know,
- 1:29Speaker 2: I've been through this, Like I said, not not in prison.
- 1:32Speaker 2: I was in a group home. I was eleven years
- 1:34Speaker 2: old and that's the only time it's ever happened to me,
- 1:37Speaker 2: and I've had a.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Couple of people say they would like to.
- 1:40Speaker 2: And I slipped your throat the next morning. That's how
- 1:44Speaker 2: I responded. That's why I responded the way I did.
- 1:49Speaker 2: That's why I'm I'm so violent, even though I've been
- 1:53Speaker 2: retired for the past two decades. But that's why.
- 1:58Speaker 1: You know, it's he to get me in that frame
- 2:02Speaker 1: of mind, because I know what it's like. I know
- 2:06Speaker 1: what can.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Happen here in prison. You know, you have the places
- 2:09Speaker 2: filled with predators. And as much as I hate to
- 2:13Speaker 2: say it, the Virginia Department of Corrections, from what I heard,
- 2:21Speaker 2: not one hundred percent show or in the veracity of
- 2:23Speaker 2: this or not, but somewhere around seventy to eighty percent
- 2:29Speaker 2: of every single prisoner in Virginia has a sex charge
- 2:33Speaker 2: of one stripe or another. You have stuff like this happens,
- 2:38Speaker 2: and that's my problem. Among so many among the Virginia
- 2:44Speaker 2: Department of Corrections is a story that you heard last week.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Here is this young guy. Yeah, he committed a dub crime,
- 2:53Speaker 2: but he didn't do it out of malice. He did
- 2:57Speaker 2: it trying to be the hero. Did it because he
- 3:01Speaker 2: was manipulated into it. He thought he was actually saving
- 3:05Speaker 2: the damsel in distress. And like Kyle, I grew up
- 3:08Speaker 2: in the juvenile system. You don't get X boxes and
- 3:14Speaker 2: PlayStations when you're in foster home help. Back in our day,
- 3:19Speaker 2: you didn't get Nintendo's in fegas, you know, like I've hell,
- 3:23Speaker 2: I've never played a Super Nintendo. I've never even seen
- 3:27Speaker 2: one in real life. You know, you don't get stuff
- 3:31Speaker 2: like that. But what we do get is access to
- 3:35Speaker 2: the school I born and for guys like him and
- 3:38Speaker 2: me that grew up being abused and just broken and
- 3:43Speaker 2: just dirt poor and having nothing, and you know, spiritually abused, mentally, emotionally,
- 3:50Speaker 2: physically abused of one stripe or another. You know. Yeah,
- 3:53Speaker 2: I was sexually abused once, but most of mine came
- 3:56Speaker 2: at the hands of my dad when he would beat
- 3:57Speaker 2: the living out of me, you know. Brothers, So we
- 4:03Speaker 2: gravitated towards the hero with the bare chest, the hot
- 4:08Speaker 2: chick on his leg and a sword over his shoulder,
- 4:11Speaker 2: you know, and oh yeah, the bloody bodies dismembered at
- 4:14Speaker 2: his feet, because that's who we wanted to beat. We
- 4:17Speaker 2: wanted to be protected, we wanted to be strong. We
- 4:21Speaker 2: wanted to, and not just to protect ourselves, though that
- 4:25Speaker 2: was first and foremost, but to protect others that were
- 4:28Speaker 2: going through the same that we went through that we
- 4:30Speaker 2: was being punished with. So we come to the system
- 4:34Speaker 2: because Bill, if you think the Virginia Department of Corrections
- 4:39Speaker 2: is broken, take a look at the foster care system
- 4:43Speaker 2: in Virginia. It makes the Virginia Department of Corrections look
- 4:47Speaker 2: like heaven on Earth. You know, that place is riddled
- 4:52Speaker 2: with just god awful monstrosities masquerading as foster parents. So
- 5:05Speaker 2: when they when they take kids from this broken system
- 5:08Speaker 2: and put them in a in another broken system with
- 5:14Speaker 2: staff members that, let's face it, if they were employable elsewhere,
- 5:19Speaker 2: they wouldn't be working in prison. They would not put
- 5:22Speaker 2: up with this they have to put up with just
- 5:25Speaker 2: to make a patient. They wouldn't do it. You know,
- 5:30Speaker 2: this is this is this is not a glamorous job. No,
- 5:35Speaker 2: you do this job and if you're lucky, on your
- 5:38Speaker 2: days off, you have a side job, you do something
- 5:42Speaker 2: else to make ends meet. That's the kind of jobs.
- 5:45Speaker 2: That's the kind of people you find in prison. So
- 5:49Speaker 2: they're not doing the job they're supposed to be doing
- 5:57Speaker 2: and they just look for an empty cell, and you
- 6:00Speaker 2: put a guy in a cell with a guy who's
- 6:03Speaker 2: known as a rapist, who's already raped multiple people at
- 6:10Speaker 2: multiple other institutions. That's why he was at Walling's Ridge
- 6:15Speaker 2: in the first place. And some counselor up there thought, hey, man.
- 6:21Speaker 1: They'll get along.
- 6:24Speaker 2: You put a gang member in the cell with a
- 6:28Speaker 2: white nerd, and the man was sexually abused on a
- 6:34Speaker 2: couple occasions because a counselor couldn't take ten minutes to
- 6:42Speaker 2: looking cores and find somebody a little bit more suitable. Now, look,
- 6:49Speaker 2: I'm not saying we have to go to the degree
- 6:51Speaker 2: that the West Coast does, because the West Coast will
- 6:54Speaker 2: never ever put a white man in the cell with
- 6:57Speaker 2: a black man. They will not do. The closest you
- 7:01Speaker 2: might get is a white guy in a Spanish guy together.
- 7:03Speaker 2: That they will never put a white or Spanish guy
- 7:05Speaker 2: in the cell with a black guy. It will not happen.
- 7:08Speaker 2: I'm not saying we have to go that far, but
- 7:12Speaker 2: you cannot put a civilian in the cell with a
- 7:15Speaker 2: gang member. Quite frankly, I don't think gang members should
- 7:20Speaker 2: be They should have your own prison if you want
- 7:24Speaker 2: to bang. If you want to represent, then you should
- 7:26Speaker 2: have your own prison. Civilians should not be in those prisons.
- 7:30Speaker 2: If you're not a gang member, you shouldn't be there
- 7:34Speaker 2: because this is the type of that happens. So I'm
- 7:42Speaker 2: going to put Kyle Bach on so he can kind
- 7:44Speaker 2: of finish answering the question, you know, a survival, how
- 7:48Speaker 2: he healed, and so on and so forth in his
- 7:51Speaker 2: own words.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Here you go, thank you, Ready look at relations women.
- 8:01Speaker 1: As ready indicated, this is a week two for you guys.
- 8:05Speaker 1: We've we just fill pause in the conversation. For us,
- 8:11Speaker 1: I was I finished the last episode talking is about
- 8:14Speaker 1: surviving and healing. Healing was a long way off and
- 8:22Speaker 1: I'm still not done. I mean, I but this the
- 8:29Speaker 1: reason I'm on the show. To another reason I'm doing
- 8:31Speaker 1: this episode, and you know, however many episodes it takes,
- 8:37Speaker 1: is because I know that Randy has platform, right, and
- 8:41Speaker 1: you know, Randy has people who are listening. You the listener,
- 8:46Speaker 1: you care, you talk, you talk with each other, you
- 8:49Speaker 1: talk with other people. There's more prison awareness about the
- 8:54Speaker 1: life of prison elies now than it ever has been
- 8:58Speaker 1: in our history. Okay, believe me, I've seen some of
- 9:03Speaker 1: the shows have come out and my god, they're fucking
- 9:05Speaker 1: god awful. But you know I've you know, people are
- 9:10Speaker 1: paying attention and that matters. So yes, I will get
- 9:15Speaker 1: on the phone and I will bleed for you and
- 9:18Speaker 1: let you see what has happened to me. And I'm
- 9:20Speaker 1: not a shake shame like a long time ago. I
- 9:28Speaker 1: am bleeding and showing you this because I believe in
- 9:33Speaker 1: what read y Randy has been doing these He passed
- 9:36Speaker 1: a few years with this podcast, and I believe that
- 9:39Speaker 1: it will help somebody somehow somewhere, and I don't know how,
- 9:46Speaker 1: and that too is healing for me. Being able to
- 9:52Speaker 1: feel that I've somehow contributed in any way to the
- 9:55Speaker 1: process makes the pain worth it. As I said, it
- 10:05Speaker 1: is healings and ongoing time. You know, some days are
- 10:08Speaker 1: better than others. Some days I I'll get up, use
- 10:13Speaker 1: the fathom in the morning, season spotting of blood in
- 10:16Speaker 1: my boxers, and just the whole days right, and I'll
- 10:20Speaker 1: just stay myself and some days so that happens, and
- 10:25Speaker 1: I go outside anyways, because one thing that I have,
- 10:31Speaker 1: but one thing I have learned emphatically is that our
- 10:37Speaker 1: wives are about contrast. We only know how to define
- 10:42Speaker 1: evil by that which we define is good. We only
- 10:46Speaker 1: appreciate beauty because we know what it's ugly. I'm only
- 10:51Speaker 1: able to appreciate the blessings I have in my life,
- 10:54Speaker 1: the blessings of the Gods have bestowed upon me. I
- 10:57Speaker 1: continue to do so because of atrocities like this that
- 11:01Speaker 1: have happened in my life. I could spend eight hours
- 11:06Speaker 1: with litanies of crap. That stuff's not the important stuff.
- 11:13Speaker 1: If you're listening, you have a voice, use it so
- 11:21Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be another one of me out
- 11:22Speaker 1: there freshening. The system doesn't know that. It doesn't those
- 11:26Speaker 1: that from the hole in the ground and finding himself
- 11:29Speaker 1: being raped by motherfucker who does this for fun. Because
- 11:36Speaker 1: that's what's happening to the young kids getting put in prison.
- 11:41Speaker 1: They're not being considered for why, why they're in there,
- 11:44Speaker 1: who they are, what they what might happen to them?
- 11:49Speaker 1: Sells oup and put them in there. Just last year,
- 11:57Speaker 1: I remember I got taken out here taking the Sussex one. Uh,
- 12:02Speaker 1: it amounts to a glorified clerical error. But I got
- 12:06Speaker 1: taken out of the Virginia model and sent to Sussex One.
- 12:09Speaker 1: I was there for about months. In that time, I
- 12:12Speaker 1: met a kid who was the isis made me think
- 12:15Speaker 1: of me. He had been he had been raped by
- 12:24Speaker 1: the cellmate he had over the course of the weekend
- 12:27Speaker 1: and then forcing to get a tattoo. I beat him
- 12:30Speaker 1: and made him take a tattoo and on his lower
- 12:33Speaker 1: back call him, call him dick slought. He disclosed with
- 12:38Speaker 1: which I'm proud of him for he got taken to
- 12:42Speaker 1: the hospital for it was diagnosed with hepatitis. I don't
- 12:47Speaker 1: want to tell that you was a letter because I
- 12:48Speaker 1: don't know. It was two of them, and you know
- 12:50Speaker 1: it wasn't the good ones. And I he actually showed
- 12:57Speaker 1: me the paperwork when he asked the when he sent
- 12:59Speaker 1: it to the togeters asked him, why have I not
- 13:01Speaker 1: been able to press charges yet? The investigators told him
- 13:05Speaker 1: that you're not allowed to press charges, to which me
- 13:10Speaker 1: and my own one of my brothers who was a
- 13:11Speaker 1: SUSSICS one with me, sat him down and started exlaining
- 13:14Speaker 1: him how the law works. And I'm I'm still waiting
- 13:17Speaker 1: on word to see if anything has come of that,
- 13:20Speaker 1: because when we got to him it had been six months,
- 13:22Speaker 1: seven months and he wasn't getting treatment for appatitis. A
- 13:27Speaker 1: communic will believe that, you know, we could potentially be lethal,
- 13:30Speaker 1: and you're you can't even get the drugs that you're
- 13:33Speaker 1: supposed to have for it. It's not about me. What
- 13:38Speaker 1: happened to me, happened. I've grown, I am who I
- 13:41Speaker 1: am Now. There are plenty of kids coming into this
- 13:46Speaker 1: system and getting this kind of treatment, and yeah, we're prisoners.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Yeah we fucked up.
- 13:54Speaker 2: We got time to do, but that's our punishment. Shouldn't
- 13:57Speaker 2: be our punishment on top of being you know, worrying
- 14:00Speaker 2: about having to be raped, and worried about being beaten
- 14:02Speaker 2: and extorted and everything else I've seen in the last
- 14:07Speaker 2: in the last five years, even I've seen guys living
- 14:09Speaker 2: under the extortion because they're putting sales with people they
- 14:13Speaker 2: have to visit being a cell with It's just if
- 14:17Speaker 2: people don't.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Care, one scentive doesn't. It doesn't funk that I did
- 14:20Speaker 1: not do what he's doing. Would have thought, you know,
- 14:24Speaker 1: fucking scumback piece of ship would act like scumback pieces
- 14:27Speaker 1: of ship. There's a thought for you, healing as possible.
- 14:33Speaker 1: All of this can be recovered from if anyone's interested
- 14:42Speaker 1: in it. I will be releasing the Price for Surviving
- 14:46Speaker 1: on my sub stack, and Mike, I think is going
- 14:49Speaker 1: to be putting a link to it attached to these
- 14:51Speaker 1: episodes if you want to. It's not an easy lesson.
- 14:55Speaker 1: It goes over some of what I've already talked about,
- 14:57Speaker 1: but some more detail of thanks. I'm doing this because
- 15:03Speaker 1: I hope it helps. I hope it helps somebody anywhere,
- 15:08Speaker 1: and if it does, then it makes it all worth it.
- 15:12Speaker 1: And that's a chance I'm willing to take. It doesn't
- 15:13Speaker 1: It doesn't lessen me as a man. And if you
- 15:15Speaker 1: know somebody whos needing gone through this, if you know
- 15:17Speaker 1: somebody who's been sexually assaulted, tell them to disclose. It
- 15:20Speaker 1: doesn't don't worry about the snitches and other bullshit. You
- 15:24Speaker 1: live your life.
- 15:25Speaker 2: You protect yourself.
- 15:27Speaker 1: If you don't live by that coach, you don't have
- 15:28Speaker 1: a word lived by that coach. You don't let other
- 15:29Speaker 1: people make you live it. Disclose what happened to you,
- 15:34Speaker 1: confront it. There are other people who will hear you,
- 15:36Speaker 1: people who will help. We are not living in a
- 15:40Speaker 1: desolate landscape. There are people who care. They can only
- 15:43Speaker 1: help as much as they can only help so much
- 15:44Speaker 1: because the powers that bind them are crap as the net.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Counselors who care at MAT, officers who care at MATT,
- 15:52Speaker 1: officers who've gone out of their way to help me,
- 15:54Speaker 1: or other inmates that they've come across who are having
- 15:56Speaker 1: a bad time of it that they don't deserve. Be
- 16:02Speaker 1: there for the people and let them know it doesn't
- 16:03Speaker 1: lessen them. You're not less of a person because has
- 16:05Speaker 1: happened to you. Chris said himself, only a victim if
- 16:11Speaker 1: you let yourself bey. I was a victim that day,
- 16:14Speaker 1: so that two weeks I was a victim. I was
- 16:17Speaker 1: twenty years old. I am forty two years old now,
- 16:20Speaker 1: and I have not been a victim for a single day,
- 16:22Speaker 1: for a single moment since then. I'm still healing and
- 16:29Speaker 1: I'll continue to heal. If you've got friends out there
- 16:34Speaker 1: who've gone through this, they can heal. Let them know that,
- 16:37Speaker 1: Let them know they can heal, they can recover, and
- 16:40Speaker 1: they can grow from them. One of the worst moments
- 16:45Speaker 1: of your life does not have to be the defining
- 16:46Speaker 1: moment of your life. I appreciate you lending me ears
- 16:51Speaker 1: and letting me listen, listening to me, and I appreciate
- 16:54Speaker 1: you giving me the platform ris like you, M.
- 17:16Speaker 2: M all right, yeah, Just to reiterate some of what
- 17:50Speaker 2: he said, you might not be a fighter physically, but
- 18:00Speaker 2: more important than you're a fighter mansilly and spiritually, and
- 18:04Speaker 2: that always takes precedence over the physical because at the
- 18:08Speaker 2: end of the day, you know.
- 18:11Speaker 1: You can, you physically might beat my ass.
- 18:15Speaker 2: There's something out there who can I You know, I'm
- 18:17Speaker 2: not superman, but you can never beat me mentally because
- 18:24Speaker 2: I have no backup, I have no gift, I have
- 18:27Speaker 2: no quick in me. I always look for the angers.
- 18:31Speaker 2: I always look for the ways to overcome. And that's
- 18:39Speaker 2: that's what we're doing with this podcast. It's stuff like this.
- 18:44Speaker 2: This right, Here's the reason why Kyle was the first
- 18:47Speaker 2: person I've entered you. I've met a lot of guys
- 18:50Speaker 2: in prison that had some great stories that I could
- 18:53Speaker 2: have put on the phone and done just like this,
- 18:55Speaker 2: but I never gave them the opportunity. The reason why
- 18:58Speaker 2: I'm giving Kyle the opportunity, and he's the realness I
- 19:03Speaker 2: see him in here. We're in the pod together. This
- 19:08Speaker 2: isn't something that I just jumped out and threw him
- 19:11Speaker 2: on here like this. Has taken a while for me
- 19:14Speaker 2: to get to know him, to spend time with him,
- 19:16Speaker 2: to talk to him, to have him checked out, the
- 19:18Speaker 2: same way he checked me out when he first approached
- 19:21Speaker 2: me about you know, receiving some help with the podcast
- 19:24Speaker 2: and asking for advice and so on and so forth.
- 19:27Speaker 2: You know, that's what you do. You can check somebody's
- 19:29Speaker 2: bone fies in prison. Look, a lot of people who
- 19:37Speaker 2: listen to my podcast have somebody in prison, or they
- 19:41Speaker 2: have somebody that's getting ready to go to prison. If
- 19:44Speaker 2: you have a young kid, whether it's your son, whether
- 19:49Speaker 2: it's your daughter, a female, prison happens in female persons too.
- 19:53Speaker 2: If you think your daughter can't go to prison and
- 19:55Speaker 2: get raped, you really need to open your eyes because, honestly,
- 20:01Speaker 2: I think more females get raped than males in prison.
- 20:04Speaker 2: You know, whether it's by other females or whether it's
- 20:07Speaker 2: by the prison guards themselves.
- 20:09Speaker 1: You have one minute remaining.
- 20:13Speaker 2: If you know someone that's currently waiting in jail to
- 20:16Speaker 2: come to prison or something like that, and if they
- 20:20Speaker 2: ain't built like me, then tell them when they get there.
- 20:25Speaker 2: If they as soon as they go to the cell
- 20:27Speaker 2: and they see who their celling is, if they don't
- 20:30Speaker 2: like it, they don't man, what anybody thinks, tell them, no,
- 20:35Speaker 2: I'm going.
- 20:35Speaker 1: Back to the whole.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Go check in, and when you get back you tell them. Look, man,
- 20:41Speaker 2: y'all want to put me in the cell with someone
- 20:45Speaker 2: that I'm compatible with, someone that I don't have to
- 20:48Speaker 2: sleep with both eyes open, because you're not putting me
- 20:51Speaker 2: in an up situation. Always listen to your instincts. Ways,
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