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MINI SCROLL: Coffeezilla vs $200K LEGO theft, Timothée Chalamet x Kalshi + 30A influencer trip drama · Mini Scroll

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  Coming up today on Mini Scroll, a major update on the $200,000
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  Lego theft, Timothy Chalamet's questionable brand
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  ambassadorship, and the 30A influencer trip gone wrong.
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  OK, let's get into the stories for today.
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  All right, the first story that I have for you guys today is
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  coffee. Zilla has entered the chat with
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  the $200,000 Lego theft drama with some new discoveries.
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  So if you don't know who coffee Zilla is, his real name is
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  Steven and he's a big YouTube. He has like 4.5 million
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  subscribers and he largely investigates scams, particularly
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  in cryptocurrency. He dropped an hour long video
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  investigating the Lego scandal and here is what we've learned.
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  Also, if you want like a really big recap on this, I did a mini
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  deep dive episode last Friday on this entire scandal.
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  So go back to that. But like at an incredibly high
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  level. If you don't want to go watch
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  that video, a man named Brian Menzel put his his family's Lego
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  collection on consignment at a Bricks and Mini Figs store in
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  Salem, OR USA, the franchise. When he put it on consignment,
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  I'm going to call them Bam. OK, Bricks and Mini Figs, but
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  I'm going to call them Bam. This location.
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  This Bam location was run by franchisees Crystal and Ben
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  Gorman. I was calling her Chris last
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  episode because she introduced herself in one of their YouTube
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  videos as Chris. Her name is Crystal Chris.
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  So he retained ownership and was supposed to get a cut as the
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  items were sold. He was supposed to get like
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  between 60 to 70%. The running figure, at least
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  online for what the Lego collection was worth this entire
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  time has been $200,000. So then the franchise owners had
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  put the store up for sale after acquiring this consignment.
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  They said they had to like move overseas really suddenly.
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  So on November 14th, 2024, corporate's new franchisees, 2
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  men named Brandon Best and Josh Josh Johnson who run another BAM
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  location did a takeover of the Salem store.
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  This is the moment that the collection allegedly went
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  missing. So corporate's press release
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  claims that they only found between 2000 and $5000 of
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  Brian's collection in the store afterward, which obviously is
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  roughly like 10 times less than what was expected.
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  This entire situation got investigated by a YouTube named
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  Reckless Ben. Not to be confused by the former
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  franchise Ben Gorman. So Ben and Crystal were the
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  couple that owned the BAM location.
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  Reckless Ben is like a random YouTube who started
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  investigating this so he made several videos about the
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  situation and he even got arrested over his investigation
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  into this. So now BAM has filed lawsuits
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  against Reckless Ben and Brian Mansell.
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  Reckless Ben has fled to Mexico after being released from jail,
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  and the corporation put out this lengthy blog post, seemingly
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  putting the blame for the mishandling of this Lego
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  collection on the previous owners of the franchise, Crystal
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  and Ben Gorman. That is where we left off last
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  week. OK, so there are several new
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  findings from Coffee Zilla's investigation.
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  He spoke to every single person involved.
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  So I'm just going to go through these findings, not in any like
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  particular order. First, the $200,000 figure was
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  wrong. This is kind of the main finding
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  and it leads to a lot of his other findings because if it was
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  not actually worth $200,000 then that means a lot out of the
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  allegedly stolen or like missing Lego Might not actually be
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  missing, might not actually have been stolen or missing.
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  Crystal Gorman's actual inventory sheet put the real
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  value at around $107,000 because she estimated on the low end it
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  might sell for $85,000, on the high end it might sell for
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  $120,000. So midpoint estimate is like
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  $107,000. Reckless Ben admitted that he
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  did pick up the $200,000 as a round attention grab number for
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  a press release before he'd done a real item by item evaluation.
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  So kind of the missing like 200K worth of Lego was already not
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  totally accurate. A lot of coffee.
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  Zillow's video went into reconstructing the day of the
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  handover between the Gorman's and the new owners, Josh and
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  Ben. Ben Brandon.
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  Sorry. Oh my God, it's like last time
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  last Friday. I was like having such a hard
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  time with these names because they're all just like basic
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  white men names, OK? Between Josh and Brandon, who
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  were taking over the store. So in terms of the records that
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  were kept, Crystal's records said that about $24,000 of
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  Brian's collection was recorded as sold already, and Brian had
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  been paid around $17,000 for that.
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  So this math implies obviously that around $82,000 of his
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  collection should still have been in the store on the night
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  of the takeover. However, corporate is only
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  saying that they found $2000 to $5000 worth of Lego of Brian's
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  Lego. OK, so rather than trust either
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  side, Coffee Zilla essentially hand tagged Star Wars Legos
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  across 200 plus photos and videos from Crystal, matching
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  them against Brian's collection. And the result was about $21,000
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  of Brian's Legos that can be proven on camera to have been in
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  the store that night, which again is about three to five
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  times what corporate was saying in their press release.
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  And then Coffee. Zilla also found that there did
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  seem to be significantly more Legos in the photos that he was
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  shown by Crystal and Ben, who were the owners of the franchise
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  at the time, from the night that this all happened.
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  He said there was a lot more Legos in their photos than there
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  were in corporates photos. Crystal and Ben were able to
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  explain that there were items that they would put out on
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  display when the store was open, but they would take them down
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  and bring them into safes in the back in the evening.
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  And the reason that matters is one of the main points that
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  corporate was saying in their press release, I mean, I went
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  over it in a pickup last episode, but they were really
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  trying to put the blame on like this mix up on Crystal, who was
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  I think the main owner of the store.
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  There was a point in the blog post where they said that there
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  was not a lot of inventory left when they took over the store
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  from her and that it was like disheveled, like it was not in
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  good condition. And so it seemed to me it felt
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  like they were trying to paint a picture of Crystal as like not
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  being a super responsible store owner and not having made a lot
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  of sales, she didn't have a lot of inventory, like, just like
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  not keeping things up. And so that discrepancy is
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  important because the photos that the Gormans were able to
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  provide to Coffee Zilla painted a different picture.
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  And then Coffee Zilla also went through like their inventory
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  with corporate. So like with the CEO and the CEO
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  of BAM went through Crystal's final inventory list and
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  compared it to corporate's inventory list, and there were
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  discrepancies there. Of course, corporate's whole
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  thing is like we can't necessarily trust Crystal's
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  spreadsheet, like she can just write whatever she wants.
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  But it is important to note that there were discrepancies.
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  OK? The most damning evidence that
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  everybody is pointing to in the comments is this U-Haul
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  situation. So in the initial story, Crystal
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  essentially said that she saw AU Haul in the parking lot of the
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  Salem store on the night of the takeover.
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  She said she didn't really notice it at first, but after
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  Brandon who it was Brandon Best who took over the store with his
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  colleague or business partner Josh.
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  Brandon was the one that was like physically there.
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  Though she said it was only after Brandon told her that he
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  was taking the keys and locking her out of the store that she
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  kind of paid attention and realized that he had a large
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  U-Haul truck there. Now corporate denied this and
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  they also denied this to Coffeezilla.
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  To Coffeezilla, they said that Brandon had a rental car and
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  they specified it was not a U-Haul.
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  However, coffee Suzilla. By brightening and zooming in to
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  footage and photos everything he had from the parking lot of that
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  evening, he was able to find a U-Haul.
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  Then he when he confronted corporate about this, their
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  story seemed to change overnight.
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  They admitted that a U-Haul actually was involved, but they
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  offered this kind of like convoluted explanation.
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  They said that like a camper trailer towing weight problem
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  forced Brandon to rent AU Haul instead of a rental car as they
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  initially thought he had rented. And then a former employee of
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  the location that Josh and Brandon already owned before
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  taking over the Salem location contacted Coffeezilla and spoke
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  to him in this video and basically said that that evening
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  when the store was taken over, Brandon showed up with a medium
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  sized U-Haul full of used Star Wars and city Lego sets.
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  And this employee claims that Brandon said to them that
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  Crystal had, quote, stolen Legos and left the country because
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  remember, they were going to move overseas.
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  So then this is where Coffee Zilla is trying to piece
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  together the timeline because Brandon claimed that it took
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  about four hours to unload the Legos, but there were only three
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  hours between his last Salem photo and dropping EU Haul back.
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  Like the timestamp of when EU Haul was returned to the
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  station. That's not where you returned
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  U-Haul. I don't know wherever you
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  rented, which obviously is not enough time if he's saying that
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  he drove to another city in this U-Haul, loaded the Legos,
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  unloaded the Legos, and then returned EU Haul.
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  And there were some discrepancies in Crystal's
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  bookkeeping and some errors in her bookkeeping that kind of did
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  raise some red flags, like there was $10,000 sold but never
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  recorded. There was this like layaway
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  situation where Crystal and her husband who were running the
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  store allowed people who wanted to possibly buy the like, Star
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  Wars that are the special like Brandon's.
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  I'm not Brandon. Oh my God.
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  Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben. No, not Ben.
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  Brian. Oh my God, that wanted to buy
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  Brian's Legos. They would allow people to put
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  it on layaway. So basically like pay a very
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  small deposit and then they would hold it for them for a
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  week and if they didn't come back to buy it, it would go back
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  out to market. And they said that that is not
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  very typical at a BAM location. And a lot of different like BAM
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  employees and people involved in the company confirm that to
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  coffee zila. That's not like super
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  commonplace, but because this was a special set, Crystal and
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  Ben claimed that's why they did that, why they allowed that.
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  So they're definitely were some like questions about like the
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  record keeping, the bookkeeping from Crystal and Ben in general.
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  Part of this record keeping discrepancy was Coffeezilla
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  discovered that Brian had a separate side deal with M&R
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  Productions who had purchased some Legos reportedly held in
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  storage. So Crystal's early inventory had
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  a location column listing many Star Wars items as being in
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  quote UN quote storage. And Coffeezilla found that 100%
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  of the items matching Brian's collection inventory happens to
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  be listed under storage and many of those appear in M and Rs
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  photos and can't be found in the store.
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  So basically coffee Zilla estimates that like 10,000 to
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  $20,000 of the missing quote UN quote missing Lego is actually
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  explained by this side of the deal and was never even given to
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  Bam. And then in his closing kind of
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  confrontation with corporate, Coffee Zilla discovered the
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  inventory spreadsheets. Metadata shows that it was
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  created on September September 6th, 2024 under a Bam Salem
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  corporate account. And why that's important is
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  corporate had repeatedly been claiming that they were never
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  given documentation, yet the file was archived in their own
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  system and created by their own company and on camera.
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  The COO actually did appear genuinely unaware of this when
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  Coffeezilla confronted him about this.
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  So in general Coffee Zilla's conclusion, he feels like
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  everyone was partly right and partly wrong.
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  Far more of the collection was in the store on November 14th
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  than corporate claimed, but the original $200,000 figure
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  obviously was very inflated and much more was actually sold or
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  put on layaway than Brian was ever paid for.
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  So after accounting for the proven in store Lego, the M&R
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  side of that deal, the layaways and the unrecorded sales Coffee,
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  Zilla estimates that only about 10,000 to 20,000 $1000 of Lego
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  is genuinely unexplained. Think now this paints a more
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  full picture. It's not that, you know, Crystal
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  and her husband were trying to quote UN quote steal things or
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  be shady. And it's not necessarily that
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  the corporation was trying to like steal this consignment or
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  say that it was theirs or whatever and be shady.
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  I believe from this video at least, it's changed my mind in
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  terms of how I see this. And I believe now I think it's
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  more of that there was just like an incredible lack of
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  communication and record keeping.
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  And it's allowed for, you know, 10 to $20,000 worth of Lego
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  inventory to slip through the cracks.
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  And I don't think it was like intentionally one person or, you
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  know, a group of people trying to, like, steal it.
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  I don't know if you guys have watched the video.
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  Let me know what you guys think about that.
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  All right, the next story that I have for you guys today is
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  Timothy Chalamet is facing backlash for partnering with
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  essentially A gambling company. So Timothy Chalamet just became
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  the face of a campaign for a brand called Kolshi Kolshi.
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  Kolshi Kolshi announced him as the face of its new campaign
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  with a launch ad that shows Timmy basically name dropping
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  the brand in random situations. So he's at the dentist, he's
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  banging on his ceiling at noisy neighbors, He's testing
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  keyboards at Guitar Center without ever actually explaining
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  what the platform is. The Internet is immediately
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  losing its mind over this as a Kolshi is a prediction market
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  where users bet money on the outcome of real world events.
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  So unlike sports books, prediction markets are not
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  restricted to just sporting events.
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  Users can put money on elections, wars, global
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  temperatures, economic issues, even entertainment outcomes like
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  who's going to win the Oscars. And it's kind of that breath
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  that can make it more controversial because they sit
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  in this like regulatory Gray zone between finance and
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  gambling. I think we can all agree that
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  like promoting and being a brand ambassador for gambling sites,
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  it's not a good look. Timothy Chalamet, what are you
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  doing? You had defenders in the ballet
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  scandal. OK, this fall from grace with
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  him. It's really insane to see.
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  It's obvious that this is the person that he's always wanted
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  to be. But it's so fascinating to watch
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  how quickly and directly almost he has been, quote UN quote
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  selling out. We know that Timothy Chalamet
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  and Kylie Jenner, they keep going to the Knicks games,
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  right? And so one of the top comments
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  about the situation, somebody wrote, had to pay for those
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  courtside seats somehow, another top comment reads, Dune Funds
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  couldn't have dried up that fast.
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  Look, being someone whose company makes most of our money
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  through partnerships, like, I am no stranger to the friction you
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  might feel being presented with an amount of money that you
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  really need to keep things going.
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  And it's like kind of a Gray area.
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  And you're like, I'm not sure if we should do this partnership.
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  I don't know if this is like ethically sound and like having
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  those conversations. It's something I take very, very
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  seriously. We have said no to like multi 6
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  figure deals multiple times. I can't explain how much those
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  deals would have like completely changed the trajectory of the
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  company and would allow me to sleep at night if I had that
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  amount of money in our bank account.
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  But you know, you have to make the ethical choice, right?
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  I'm no stranger to that ethical dilemma, right?
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  And I understand sometimes, like, people have to take it
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  depends on what kind of company. But like, sometimes people have
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  to make the decision to like, keep their company going, put
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  food on the table, pay their staff, like whatever it is,
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  whatever they need the money for.
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  I understand sometimes you just have to get your bag.
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  Timothy Chalamet is an A list actor who was dating a
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  billionaire family. I guess everyone has a price.
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  I don't know what he's doing. He needs like a chill moment.
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  Like he needs to step away. Whoever does his PR needs to
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  take him out of the spotlight. Stop allowing him to do like
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  partnerships and interviews and stuff.
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  And just like he needs a year away.
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  OK. And the last story that I have
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  for you guys today is there was this influencer trip.
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  People are calling it the 30 a influencer trip and it's going
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  viral for a whole bunch of drama.
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  SO30A is a region in Florida. I think I was looking into it.
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  I mean I know it's in Florida, but I think it's a region.
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  I was looking into it. Apparently it's like a bunch of
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  beaches and 30 AI believe is like the highway that goes
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  through it. Apparently it's a very, very
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  nice vacation location. OK so this is what I have
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  gathered from what's going on. A creator named Ella Stowe
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  planned this trip. So Ella is a lifestyle
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  influencer with 384,000 followers and she is based out
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  of Pennsylvania. The trip was not a brand trip,
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  OK. It was something put together by
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  Ella and she invited a bunch of like random influencers who I
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  believe kind of interact with each other online and stuff.
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  They live all across the USI don't know if any of them or
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  most of them had met each other yet at that point.
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  So it was paid for out of pocket by the creators to go on this
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  like group vacation. It's like a girls trip.
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  Ella was calling it an influencer trip.
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  She wasn't calling it a brand trip as far as I know.
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  She was calling it an influencer trip and I do believe when
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  people hear the words influencer trip, they think brand trip.
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  So they think all expenses paid, but it was paid for out of
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  pocket by these girls. OK, So everybody was posting
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  content. I will say some of the girls,
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  they were posting content near the end of the trip.
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  They went on it last week. They were posting content near
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  the end of the trip, but Ella was not in.
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  They're like more recent content, which is interesting.
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  And now it seems we know why. So a few days ago, a creator
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  named Aubrey posted a video on TikTok and the caption is
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  literally an essay long. Let me read it.
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  This past week, myself, along with seven other content
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  creators, were invited on a trip hosted by an influencer.
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  The eight of us who were invited were treated with hostility,
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  anger, embarrassment for no reason.
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  By day two of the trip, we had enough.
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  Many were wanting to leave early and looking at new flight times.
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  When we confronted this person with our feelings on day three
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  about her behavior, we were met with deflection, gaslighting,
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  and shifting the narrative to point blame at us.
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  I approached the situation with grace and respect, but it was
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  not reciprocated in any way. I tried to level set and find a
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  common ground multiple times but to no avail.
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  This person told me they saw no issue with their behavior,
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  actions, and tone towards everyone else on the trip.
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  Once this person was removed from our daily plans, which we
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  clocked because she is not in a lot of their content later on,
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  we were able to finally. Enjoy the trip.
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  The next morning there was another verbal altercation, this
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  time including the individual's mother and again no resolution
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  was found. Then on the final day myself
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  along with another creator were the last two left.
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  Another verbal altercation ensued.
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  Again I was told that this person and their mother saw no
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  issue with their behavior. 6 of the 8 girls still decided to
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  leave the trip early Friday morning and by Friday evening
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  myself and other creator were staying in a hotel to get away
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  and it is extremely unfortunate. Money, time and resources were
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  spent to try and make this an enjoyable trip.
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  But there was 1 issue. No apologies were given and this
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  person stated repeatedly that they saw no issue with their
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  behavior so I can only take their word from it and remove
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  myself from them. And the rest of the girls on the
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  trip are doing the same. OK so people were like what did
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  I just stumble across? Like what is this?
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  And then when you open the comments a creator named Ava
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  Christine commented. Thank you.
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  I have a video posted on my page as well.
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  I was invited and then uninvited the next day because there quote
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  wasn't enough room for me. I was so so so upset because
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  this was my first influencer trip and I genuinely couldn't
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  wait to meet new people and make new friends.
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  So it seems like Ella was the person that Aubrey and this Ava
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  girl were referring to because Ella responded to this in her
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  own TikTok. This TikTok has been deleted but
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  a creator on TikTok was able to screenshot it and used in a
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  video so this is what it reads. Respectfully speaking, I am
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  choosing to move forward and not dwell on the past.
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  I've previously extended apologies and admitted my faults
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  and they were not acknowledged or reciprocated and that is OK.
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  If people who have never interacted with me want to form
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  opinions based off of hearsay, more power to them.
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  I know my truth and I have done everything I can to try to make
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  peace, but that isn't the route people want to go.
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  Which is fine, but I'm going to choose peace for me and wish
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  them nothing but the best. And then she finishes with that
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  quote. What Sally says about Susie says
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  more about Sally than Susie. And the reason why that's
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  important is because then Aubrey responded to that and she made a
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  TikTok post that also seems to have since been deleted that
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  reads when Sally calls Susie out for Susie's mean behavior, that
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  means Sally doesn't put up with BS.
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  OK, and then let me play a clip from Ava Christine's video.
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  So she's the one that commented on Aubrey's original post saying
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  I was invited and then uninvited the next day.
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  So cool, that's so exciting to follow me on TikTok, Instagram.
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  And then she messaged me and in her message she says something
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  along the lines of like, hey girl, I'm hosting this
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  influencer event. Like I see her in Florida.
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  It's going to be in Florida. Like, would you be down to come?
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  Like you totally would fit perfectly.
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  You match the vibe, yadda, yadda, yadda.
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  I'm like, yeah, like I'm so down.
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  Like this is so exciting. I've been waiting to like be
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  invited to an influencer event or something along the swords
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  because I'm almost at 20,000 followers and I'm just like when
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  will that stuff like start happening?
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  When does that stuff come? So I respond I'm like yes girl
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  absolutely I'm so in. She then responds back and says
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  like OK great. Like each girl has to pay $500
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  in order to come $500.00 for an influencer event.
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  When does anyone ever pay to go to an influencer event?
• 23:41
  I would love to know. So I was just sitting like
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  thinking about this and I'm like, you know what?
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  Like a lot of other content creators that I follow are going
• 23:48
  like maybe it will be a good thing.
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  I will pay the $500 and I will go.
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  So then because I would have to drive like 2 hours away or
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  something. I think it was like two 2 1/2
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  hours away. I asked, is it possible if my
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  sister comes? I made it clear, like, she
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  wasn't obviously going to be, like, really doing things with
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  us. I just wanted someone to ride
• 24:08
  with me in the car so I didn't have to drive by myself with me
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  only being 19. Like, my parents aren't the
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  biggest fans of me driving several hours away by myself.
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  I said, we're obviously going to pay you the $500.
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  Like, she can just sleep in my bed.
• 24:21
  Like, she doesn't need anything. But would it be OK if, like, she
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  comes? And now if you are a good
• 24:27
  person, if you're truly a girl's girl, you'd be like, yeah, girl.
• 24:31
  Like bring your sister. I don't care about her social
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  media, nothing. First thing she says back, can I
• 24:38
  see her TikTok? Mind you, my sister and I have
• 24:41
  like a 1516 year old age gap. I'm 19, just turned 19 May 11th.
• 24:45
  She's 33. So like that just brought me the
• 24:48
  wrong way to begin with. Because like, you should
• 24:50
  understand if it was me planning this, I'd be like, yes,
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  absolutely. Your sister's more than welcome
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  to come. Like the more the merrier.
• 24:57
  We will make the room for her. That's it.
• 25:00
  So after she sent that, I was just like, OK, like my sister's
• 25:03
  like, not really a big content creator yet.
• 25:05
  Like she's just starting her posting out, but like, OK,
• 25:08
  whatever. Like just forget it.
• 25:10
  So I told her I'm going to send you the $500.
• 25:12
  I'm just waiting for a brand deal to pay out.
• 25:14
  And then I'll just send that right to you tomorrow by saying
• 25:16
  that. You would think that she'd be
• 25:18
  like, oh, OK, Like she's actually coming.
• 25:21
  She's just going to send me the money tomorrow.
• 25:23
  So like, her spot is taken. Like this spot is taken right?
• 25:28
  Wrong. So Ava is clearly talking about
• 25:30
  Ella because she notes that she was planning the trip and also
• 25:32
  has almost 400,000 followers and as we know Ella has almost
• 25:36
  400,000 followers. So first of all, like I said,
• 25:39
  the whole like influencer trip thing I think has tripped some
• 25:43
  of these creators up a little bit and like the
• 25:46
  misunderstanding of like what this trip was from the get go.
• 25:50
  I think Ella needed to position this as like, it's not an
• 25:52
  influencer trip, It's a content collab trip.
• 25:55
  Like they were all paying to go on vacation together to
• 25:59
  collaborate on content the same way that a bunch of creators pay
• 26:02
  to live in a house together to make content day in, day out in
• 26:05
  a content house, right? I see this as the same thing.
• 26:08
  This is not like unusual in the creator space.
• 26:10
  I don't believe that Ella did a very good job of explaining that
• 26:15
  or positioning the trip in that way.
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  And I think it led to a lot of infusion from these creators.
• 26:21
  And some of them are newer creators.
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  So they've never been to brand trips before.
• 26:24
  They've never been to influencer events.
• 26:26
  You know, they might not be very ingratiated in this industry
• 26:29
  yet, might not like fully understand.
• 26:30
  But if six out of eight girls are allegedly having a problem
• 26:35
  with someone, that's a problem. You know, I'm not trying to
• 26:38
  defend Ella's behavior. Like, we don't even really know
• 26:40
  what happened. But I am inclined to believe, of
• 26:44
  course, if that many people on the trip are having issues, are
• 26:47
  choosing to leave early and stay in hotels like was obviously a
• 26:50
  big problem. What I think the girls need to
• 26:52
  do now, No one else on the trip I have been checking.
• 26:55
  As far as I can tell, nobody else on the trip who went on
• 26:58
  this trip has made a video about this.
• 27:00
  They need to. I know they probably don't want
• 27:03
  to be known for drama. And I do think Aubrey bringing
• 27:05
  this to TikTok in general was like maybe not the best move.
• 27:11
  It was definitely a questionable move to an extent.
• 27:14
  However, now that it's out there and people are starting to talk
• 27:17
  about it, the girls who are on this trip, I know they probably
• 27:20
  don't wanna make enemies and they don't wanna be in drama,
• 27:21
  but they need to make videos because this is going to blow
• 27:24
  them up. People are starting to talk
• 27:26
  about this. People are questioning like
• 27:29
  there's not a lot of info out there about these people and
• 27:31
  about this trip. Like everybody's like, what is
• 27:32
  going on? I need more information.
• 27:34
  The girlies need to capitalize on this moment.
• 27:36
  That's my opinion. If it's already out there,
• 27:38
  somebody's already roped you into this drama.
• 27:40
  Jump on it. Anyways, guys, that's it for
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