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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, this is w W E and c W alumni
- 0:02Speaker 1: the Blue Meaning and you're listening to pc W.
- 0:07Speaker 2: The question is, oh you.
- 0:15Speaker 3: Let me talk to I will give you a show
- 0:19Speaker 3: like you have never covered seen the port a wife
- 0:24Speaker 3: because I can't.
- 0:25Speaker 4: What do you guys want to talk about? And the
- 0:39Speaker 4: color red in a world for the black and white
- 0:46Speaker 4: of world?
- 0:48Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd hold on? Who why there?
- 1:15Speaker 5: You know?
- 1:16Speaker 6: Back back, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Train of ages.
- 1:34Speaker 6: Welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
- 1:38Speaker 6: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
- 1:41Speaker 6: and this is episode one twenty one. We're doing Night
- 1:46Speaker 6: of champions twenty twenty six review that took place in
- 1:50Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia. Why let's get right into it, all right,
- 1:56Speaker 6: let me bring up the co host. Here we go,
- 2:35Speaker 6: Trail Welcome back, buddy.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Yo, Yo, what it do PCW crew?
- 2:41Speaker 6: Ah, not much. It's hot day, man. It is in
- 2:46Speaker 6: the high nineties here in pa.
- 2:50Speaker 5: Uh.
- 2:51Speaker 6: I'm sure it's just as hot down there where you're at.
- 2:56Speaker 3: Yep, and it's only going to get hotter over the
- 2:58Speaker 3: next couple of days. They're talking about. He didn't that's approach.
- 3:01Speaker 6: It one ten one tend that's that's fucking crazy. All right,
- 3:07Speaker 6: let's talk about some chill guy. Oh, I know, guy's
- 3:10Speaker 6: pretty chill. Dil welcome back.
- 3:50Speaker 5: Whoa, it's me. It's me, dear, while.
- 4:00Speaker 6: Nice, real nice. All right, I'm just gonna bring Tyler
- 4:07Speaker 6: and here we go, says in my head. That accounts
- 4:14Speaker 6: for me. They understand.
- 4:16Speaker 5: Thanks off for me.
- 4:27Speaker 4: You got juice and shot ball designed to keep you see.
- 4:35Speaker 6: And just like that, the gang's all here. Welcome back, Tyler,
- 4:40Speaker 6: Thank you for having me PCW The Realist Podcast and
- 4:43Speaker 6: your speakers. How's it going, everybody? It's fucking hot. Yeah,
- 4:48Speaker 6: it's fucking hot. You know what, it's probably just as
- 4:50Speaker 6: hot as it wasn't sauty, you know, sweating their asses
- 4:54Speaker 6: off too.
- 4:54Speaker 7: Yeah, but see, at least they can wear like the
- 4:56Speaker 7: long white things and more than likely nothing underneath, and
- 4:59Speaker 7: you at free ac.
- 5:01Speaker 5: Yeah, those aren't kills, man.
- 5:04Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't know, man, I still don't think those
- 5:08Speaker 6: look very comfortable. Uh you know what, I felt bad
- 5:14Speaker 6: for the women, you know, when they were wrestling wearing
- 5:17Speaker 6: those one piece suits. Holy crap. I was like, damn,
- 5:19Speaker 6: it must be burning up in those suits.
- 5:22Speaker 7: Goodness.
- 5:23Speaker 6: I have no idea what the temperature was. I knew
- 5:25Speaker 6: they said it was really hot. Even where Monday Night
- 5:28Speaker 6: roll was this week, even montese Ford mentioned he was
- 5:31Speaker 6: sweat as his ass.
- 5:33Speaker 7: He was wearing a suit made of some kind of
- 5:35Speaker 7: animal I had never seen before, so that could have
- 5:37Speaker 7: been the culprit.
- 5:41Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 5:42Speaker 6: Uh, I mean overall, did you guys, did you guys
- 5:46Speaker 6: watch this on time like at live? Like it was
- 5:49Speaker 6: it like one? Was it one or two?
- 5:51Speaker 3: Two?
- 5:52Speaker 6: I think one o'clock? Okay, Uh, did you guys watch
- 5:56Speaker 6: it live? Because I didn't get to. I had to
- 5:59Speaker 6: catch it later.
- 6:01Speaker 5: I started an hour late, an hour later. I think
- 6:04Speaker 5: I caught up. I think I caught up to it.
- 6:08Speaker 5: Close to the man. Yeah.
- 6:11Speaker 6: Yeah, the biggest the biggest problem was staying off the
- 6:13Speaker 6: damn internet. Uh still later in the night, and they
- 6:17Speaker 6: gave it away. I couldn't help it. I fucking saw it.
- 6:20Speaker 6: I was like, and then when I saw you know,
- 6:24Speaker 6: comments from Doyle and the chat, you know, I was
- 6:27Speaker 6: just like, oh, ship, like this is real, this is
- 6:30Speaker 6: really happening. This isn't fake, this isn't AI's the real deal. Yeah,
- 6:35Speaker 6: holy crap.
- 6:37Speaker 5: Yeah, I kept expecting the dusty Finnis.
- 6:39Speaker 8: I kept expecting them to come out and go, wait
- 6:41Speaker 8: a minute, wait a minute something, So we start.
- 6:44Speaker 5: The match right right.
- 6:49Speaker 7: What were you gonna say, Tyler, Oh, I was gonna say.
- 6:52Speaker 7: Fun fact for anybody that is interested. The daytime high
- 6:56Speaker 7: temperature and rehab Saudi Arabia reached forty nine celsius. Does
- 7:01Speaker 7: anybody know the conversion.
- 7:05Speaker 3: To good?
- 7:05Speaker 6: No?
- 7:06Speaker 7: Okay, well, that converts to one hundred and twenty degrees
- 7:09Speaker 7: fahrenheit on Saturday, June twenty seventh, the day of Night
- 7:14Speaker 7: of Champions. Now, you know, thankfully the wrestlers didn't have
- 7:17Speaker 7: to die because it was held indoors, so.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Champions.
- 7:24Speaker 7: Yes, well, on the day of the Night of Champions
- 7:27Speaker 7: is what I.
- 7:30Speaker 3: One o'clock the afternoon for us was probably like eight
- 7:32Speaker 3: nine o'clock there t Yeah.
- 7:36Speaker 7: So you know, at least they were able to have
- 7:38Speaker 7: it indoors, and the wrestlers were comfortable and they were
- 7:40Speaker 7: able to perform as we all bore witness to.
- 7:47Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it definitely was a shocker of
- 7:53Speaker 6: an outcome for this pl It's weird. It was a shocker,
- 7:58Speaker 6: but yet it still wasn't a good p L.
- 8:00Speaker 5: E Oh, I disagree and I think this is the
- 8:05Speaker 5: best shot they've had in a while.
- 8:07Speaker 6: Oh my god, let's get into it. Go ahead, Dre,
- 8:11Speaker 6: let's get into it. I could, I know, but I
- 8:19Speaker 6: want you to get into it because now we got
- 8:20Speaker 6: to talk about it, because I want to know.
- 8:27Speaker 5: They've only been known this for like three years. I'm
- 8:29Speaker 5: still getting it.
- 8:32Speaker 3: Overall. We can start with just overall thoughts on the
- 8:35Speaker 3: show itself as a whole before we get into the
- 8:37Speaker 3: individual matches, because I mean, from my perspective, I don't
- 8:41Speaker 3: know that there's a whole lot to talk about in
- 8:42Speaker 3: these individual matches themselves, but you know, overall the show,
- 8:50Speaker 3: I'd say the the show wasn't bad overall, but I
- 8:57Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily say it was great either. I think it
- 9:00Speaker 3: was just it was a good show. Not a great show,
- 9:05Speaker 3: but a good show.
- 9:07Speaker 5: I mean, I thought it was I thought it was
- 9:09Speaker 5: certainly a step in the right direction.
- 9:12Speaker 6: You know.
- 9:12Speaker 5: I think the you know, six matches, I think it's
- 9:15Speaker 5: a lot better than four.
- 9:16Speaker 8: Ye, the brakes weren't as crazy long, and they were
- 9:19Speaker 8: still too long, but not quite as long. I think
- 9:22Speaker 8: I clocked at it at twelve fifty sixteen fifty.
- 9:27Speaker 5: Two or twenty forty two, but then twelve thirteen, so
- 9:31Speaker 5: a little better.
- 9:32Speaker 8: But I mean, how much have I been begging, begging, begging,
- 9:35Speaker 8: Please give us something out of the blue, you know,
- 9:37Speaker 8: something out of nowhere, surprise.
- 9:39Speaker 5: Us, because we never get surprised anymore.
- 9:42Speaker 8: And not only did we get surprised, but it didn't
- 9:45Speaker 8: happen after twelve halluva kicks and you know, interference from
- 9:49Speaker 8: you know, Tom Dick and Harry.
- 9:51Speaker 5: It was just a fucking roll up. You know, we'll
- 9:55Speaker 5: get into that match. But I mean just I just
- 9:57Speaker 5: thought everything was just be.
- 10:05Speaker 3: Faster, we get through these other matches, we can get
- 10:07Speaker 3: to the main thing that happened. So and started off
- 10:11Speaker 3: with the first match, which was the King of the
- 10:13Speaker 3: Ring Finals with Obafemi versus Jay Usso, which saw Obafemi
- 10:19Speaker 3: win by pinfall. This match, for my money, I think
- 10:24Speaker 3: was better than I thought it was going to be.
- 10:28Speaker 3: We're all well aware of Jay's limitations in the ring
- 10:34Speaker 3: and his tendency to stick to a very small pocket
- 10:38Speaker 3: of moves that he does repeatedly. I'm not saying he
- 10:43Speaker 3: didn't do that in this match, but he did at
- 10:46Speaker 3: least add a little bit more to it than it
- 10:48Speaker 3: was at least some level of psychology, I could say,
- 10:52Speaker 3: into the match, in the sense that he threw everything
- 10:55Speaker 3: he had at Oba and it wasn't enough to stop him.
- 10:57Speaker 3: So he's seemed to make the I just start to
- 11:00Speaker 3: dig deeper in his bag and pull out a sleeper move,
- 11:04Speaker 3: given that he's like, okay, I want the title with
- 11:06Speaker 3: this move. Let me try this if nothing else is
- 11:09Speaker 3: going to work. And so at least some level of psychology.
- 11:14Speaker 3: I do appreciate the fact that it was not a
- 11:15Speaker 3: squash match, and the fact that Jay did you know,
- 11:19Speaker 3: put up a decent fight against Obafemi, so that march
- 11:23Speaker 3: of it I did respect. But the outcome was of
- 11:26Speaker 3: course obvious in that Ober one which I think I
- 11:32Speaker 3: think damn near all of us predicted over the win.
- 11:34Speaker 3: Did anybody go out on the jau so lim we did?
- 11:43Speaker 3: We all did not. I know I picked over.
- 11:46Speaker 7: Oh if you picked, okay, so then we all picked.
- 11:49Speaker 5: And well I didn't want them to do with what
- 11:54Speaker 5: they did do, which was have him given up his leg.
- 12:00Speaker 8: That just seemed like that would just seem like the
- 12:02Speaker 8: worst possible outcome to me, just because it makes the
- 12:05Speaker 8: whole makes the whole.
- 12:06Speaker 5: Tournament for God. And you know, like I get, I
- 12:10Speaker 5: get trying to slow roll Over a little, Like I
- 12:13Speaker 5: get it.
- 12:14Speaker 8: I think I made the Superman comparison a lot, Like
- 12:16Speaker 8: it's how hard it is to tell a good Superman
- 12:18Speaker 8: story because nothing could hurt the guy. When when when
- 12:21Speaker 8: you get this invincible, you know, when the same thing
- 12:23Speaker 8: kind of happened to Goldberg back in the day. You know,
- 12:25Speaker 8: when you have an invincible guy, it's hard to make
- 12:28Speaker 8: any threat films incredible and once you're at a certain point,
- 12:32Speaker 8: where do you go from there? So I get slow
- 12:34Speaker 8: rolling them a little bit, which is why I thought
- 12:36Speaker 8: David would not all. But I mean every the stars,
- 12:40Speaker 8: everything says should have won.
- 12:42Speaker 5: I'm glad he did. I'm glad there was no bloodline
- 12:44Speaker 5: in affearance. I'm glad there was no brock Lisnar.
- 12:46Speaker 3: It was just a match.
- 12:48Speaker 5: Uh.
- 12:48Speaker 8: You know Jenny, like you said, Jenny threw everything he
- 12:50Speaker 8: ad at him and he still couldn't do it. Uh
- 12:52Speaker 8: So from that, in that respect, I thought it was
- 12:54Speaker 8: well done. You know, Over was the right decision, uh
- 12:59Speaker 8: to win this. But I just hate the fact that
- 13:02Speaker 8: they had him just give up, give up his title shot,
- 13:05Speaker 8: you know, like, will he get more absolutely, of course,
- 13:07Speaker 8: but like the whole point of the thing is supposed
- 13:10Speaker 8: to be to want to win the World Championshiphip, right.
- 13:12Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that kind well, we don't know for certain
- 13:16Speaker 3: if he actually gave it up or if he just
- 13:18Speaker 3: postponed it. He I would assume that he still is
- 13:23Speaker 3: entitled to that title shot at a time of his choosing.
- 13:27Speaker 3: But I am in agreeance with you that I hate
- 13:31Speaker 3: the way they handled this ship on Monday. Okay, you
- 13:34Speaker 3: like Lesler coming out challenge them match Srumslam, cool, get it.
- 13:39Speaker 3: We all kind of saw that come and expected it.
- 13:42Speaker 3: A lot of people wanted I wanted it cool, but
- 13:45Speaker 3: I did not want it to come at the expense
- 13:48Speaker 3: of his title shot. This is giving this is giving
- 13:52Speaker 3: Cody roadse to WrestleMania forty vibes when he remember when
- 13:56Speaker 3: he came out with the promo like you know, I'll
- 13:58Speaker 3: see you, right but not Yeah, but not in wrestle
- 14:02Speaker 3: made it and he's just giving it up for something else.
- 14:04Speaker 3: It's given me those kind of vibes. And yeah, fans
- 14:08Speaker 3: hated it then. I don't know that fans are gonna
- 14:10Speaker 3: hate this so much now because we're getting open Lesnar
- 14:13Speaker 3: But this made it makes the King of the Ring,
- 14:18Speaker 3: it made this whole tournament pointless. But this just made
- 14:22Speaker 3: the whole tournament fucking pointless. The guy who won the
- 14:26Speaker 3: damn thing has foregone his title shot that he's supposed
- 14:30Speaker 3: to have at Summer Slam. Meanwhile, the motherfucker that went
- 14:34Speaker 3: out in the first round is now getting a title
- 14:38Speaker 3: shot at at SummerSlam. Why because he walked to the
- 14:42Speaker 3: ring and said, face me. Any other guy said okay,
- 14:46Speaker 3: like we got we got what we want. The fuck
- 14:50Speaker 3: did we even have the King of the Ring tournament
- 14:52Speaker 3: for right?
- 14:52Speaker 6: We got the winners that we wanted, but the outcome
- 14:56Speaker 6: is still the same.
- 14:57Speaker 5: Like.
- 14:59Speaker 3: The winners that we want to But the app map
- 15:01Speaker 3: was terrible.
- 15:02Speaker 6: Yeah it uh, it blows my mind like that this
- 15:07Speaker 6: is the reut that they chose as well. Man, Uh
- 15:10Speaker 6: you know, uh, I'm glad. I was very happy that
- 15:14Speaker 6: Jay didn't win it, but then again, it would have
- 15:16Speaker 6: made it would have made sense for the storyline because
- 15:20Speaker 6: then Sammy would have been champion, and then I don't know,
- 15:25Speaker 6: I I think it would have been better. I guess
- 15:27Speaker 6: if j would have won, it would have made sense
- 15:29Speaker 6: per story because now it's Yeah, it just looks fucking
- 15:32Speaker 6: silly man just coming into the ring and and just declaring,
- 15:37Speaker 6: you want a title shot, and and then oba saying
- 15:40Speaker 6: he said, the title is always going to be there,
- 15:42Speaker 6: Championships are not going anywhere. I'll take it when I
- 15:46Speaker 6: want it. That's how he phrased it. You know, I
- 15:50Speaker 6: did like at the the end of the match, he
- 15:54Speaker 6: cut the school promo on uh, you know, on on
- 16:00Speaker 6: the whoever the champion is. And and then also you
- 16:04Speaker 6: know he's been for weeks picking on brock Man, talking
- 16:07Speaker 6: ship running in his mouth, and you know, we all
- 16:11Speaker 6: thought that brock was going to show up here, and
- 16:15Speaker 6: I was thicking to myself, and they're flying his ass
- 16:18Speaker 6: all the way the fuck out here. He don't want
- 16:21Speaker 6: to come out here unless he's gonna pay a lot
- 16:24Speaker 6: of money.
- 16:25Speaker 3: Exact reason why he would have shown up is because
- 16:28Speaker 3: the money for yeah.
- 16:30Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. But like I feel like if he wasn't
- 16:33Speaker 6: putting on an actual match like he I don't think
- 16:35Speaker 6: he was gonna get the paycheck that he wants to
- 16:37Speaker 6: fucking have to hop on a jet and.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Go all the way over there.
- 16:40Speaker 6: I think I think my question.
- 16:42Speaker 7: After we saw that was, uh so, how much did
- 16:45Speaker 7: that cost? I think I'd asked you that when what's
- 16:49Speaker 7: that when we were watching the whole Brock lester Oba interaction. Yeah,
- 16:53Speaker 7: and I looked at you and I said, so, how
- 16:54Speaker 7: much did that cost? Oh, just to have Brock kick
- 16:58Speaker 7: him in the nuts and then roll out?
- 17:01Speaker 6: Yes, I mean I did like Brock cutting the the
- 17:05Speaker 6: Brock himself cutting a promo on you know, you're good
- 17:09Speaker 6: at promos and yeah, it's like, how shitty his proom?
- 17:14Speaker 6: He's bad at promos and that's why he's gotten all
- 17:16Speaker 6: him And you know I did like.
- 17:17Speaker 3: That, you know, I appreciated him being so right this
- 17:21Speaker 3: this this rubber match.
- 17:22Speaker 6: Yeah, of course I want to see this. Of course
- 17:25Speaker 6: I want to see where this goes. And and and
- 17:27Speaker 6: now you know now it was not heading towards the
- 17:31Speaker 6: world title. He's heading towards a Hell and a Cell
- 17:35Speaker 6: match with Brock last like nice, and I think we I,
- 17:40Speaker 6: me and Tyler brought up before, like what other two matches?
- 17:43Speaker 6: What other Hell in the Cell matches has brock Lesson
- 17:45Speaker 6: been in? He's only been in two. Yes, the Undertaker,
- 17:54Speaker 6: the other Undertaker.
- 17:55Speaker 5: I know, yeah, yeah, they said he's unfeeling.
- 18:01Speaker 7: Yeah, a resounding resounding to and oh, and they were
- 18:06Speaker 7: both against the Undertaker for each individual championship. I believe
- 18:11Speaker 7: it was like one was the World heavyweight championship and
- 18:13Speaker 7: then one was just the regular championship.
- 18:15Speaker 5: Yeah, so hmm, I mean exactly the unexpectedness of this show.
- 18:25Speaker 5: I was glad that he didn't show up, you know,
- 18:28Speaker 5: not just.
- 18:29Speaker 6: That, I'm glad that this was a clean win overall,
- 18:31Speaker 6: Like there was no bloodline interference. There's no Shenanikins. It
- 18:35Speaker 6: was solo. They say that ship for all, Like, yeah,
- 18:39Speaker 6: it was a clean win. There there was no no
- 18:44Speaker 6: I guess you say bad marks left on this match.
- 18:48Speaker 6: You know, Jade lost far and square. Is it me
- 18:52Speaker 6: or is it the is it the the super kicks
- 18:54Speaker 6: are getting worse, Like he's missing like like four out
- 18:59Speaker 6: of five. Maybe maybe that's why they're not so fucking effective,
- 19:04Speaker 6: because you know, you don't make them connect like Sean
- 19:06Speaker 6: Michaels used to make it connect. Maybe one good super cake,
- 19:10Speaker 6: you know, one accurate.
- 19:12Speaker 7: Well when you rolled her, when you roll your foot
- 19:14Speaker 7: across her face, takes takes the pop out of it.
- 19:19Speaker 7: He's got jelly ankles, is what I'm trying to You
- 19:21Speaker 7: know what though he is.
- 19:22Speaker 6: He is one of the few people who I've seen
- 19:24Speaker 6: so far escape the Fall from Grace. He the first
- 19:29Speaker 6: time around. You know, Jay was able to escape from
- 19:32Speaker 6: it because I thought ob was gonna put himway pretty
- 19:34Speaker 6: pretty early, you know, so, uh yeah, that was that
- 19:40Speaker 6: was pretty impressive in itself. And then to get caught,
- 19:43Speaker 6: to get to get us to think that he was
- 19:45Speaker 6: gonna actually win with with Supercke, Supercick, super Cake, Spear
- 19:49Speaker 6: Jay Us Splash, but you know, then he got he
- 19:52Speaker 6: got choke slammed, and then the fall from Grace and
- 19:56Speaker 6: then that was it.
- 19:59Speaker 3: It's a little clearer that why they didn't have any
- 20:03Speaker 3: type of bloodline interference or anything in the in the match,
- 20:06Speaker 3: because they had this bullshit planned for Monday. In the match,
- 20:13Speaker 3: then that would have they would have had to follow
- 20:16Speaker 3: up on that, which with Oba beefing with the blood line,
- 20:19Speaker 3: which obviously there's don't plan on going that. Who knows
- 20:22Speaker 3: when they're they're gonna pull that off, where I've heard
- 20:24Speaker 3: that they want to save it for when the moment
- 20:26Speaker 3: feels as big as possible whatever the fuck that's supposed
- 20:30Speaker 3: to mean, which I'm guessing they think is WrestleMania probably,
- 20:34Speaker 3: So they're gonna drag this bullshit out for the rest
- 20:37Speaker 3: of the year, all the way through WrestleMania. So how's
- 20:42Speaker 3: how's that gonna play out next year? If if let's
- 20:45Speaker 3: just say they want to drag this out all the
- 20:47Speaker 3: way to WrestleMania next year, how the hell does that
- 20:50Speaker 3: work out? You have a Royal Rumble winner and an
- 20:53Speaker 3: Elimination Chamber winner, and then you still have Oba as
- 20:58Speaker 3: the King of the Ring with an un claimed title match.
- 21:03Speaker 5: And then you might have money in the Bank briefcase.
- 21:07Speaker 3: And somebody around with the money in the Bank briefcase,
- 21:11Speaker 3: all this ship going into possibly going into WrestleMania forty three.
- 21:16Speaker 5: I have to settle the situation before then.
- 21:20Speaker 6: I would think, Yeah, it's silly to let it run
- 21:23Speaker 6: out that long.
- 21:25Speaker 3: It seem like they would probably have to do it beforehand.
- 21:27Speaker 3: So when so then when would the moment feel as
- 21:31Speaker 3: big as possible? After Summer Slam? What at the Money
- 21:36Speaker 3: in the Bank pay per view, at Survivor Series at
- 21:39Speaker 3: what like? When?
- 21:40Speaker 5: Like?
- 21:41Speaker 3: I don't get how the moment's gonna feel any bigger
- 21:44Speaker 3: than what it is right now and what it would
- 21:47Speaker 3: be going into Summer Slam. To me, that that that
- 21:50Speaker 3: logic just doesn't make sense to me. The moment feeling
- 21:53Speaker 3: as big as possible, It's gonna feel as big as
- 21:55Speaker 3: possible the moment you announced the fucking match. Yeah, whenever
- 22:00Speaker 3: you announced the damn match as big as possible, or
- 22:04Speaker 3: even if you like, Imagine if they had gone this route.
- 22:08Speaker 3: Remember I've always been the proponent of the double of Roman.
- 22:12Speaker 3: I mean Oba pulling double duty at Summer Slam. I
- 22:15Speaker 3: wanted them facing Lesler one night, Roman the other night.
- 22:21Speaker 3: You know, they could have done that. They could have
- 22:26Speaker 3: gone that route. They could have gone that route, And
- 22:28Speaker 3: that's the route I was initially thinking. You know, Oba
- 22:31Speaker 3: Lesner won on one night one, and then night two
- 22:34Speaker 3: he faces Roman. But given that they have the hell
- 22:38Speaker 3: in the Cell wrinkle, imagine if they'd have flipped it.
- 22:41Speaker 3: Imagine if Oba faces Roman as the King of the
- 22:46Speaker 3: Ring winner night one and wins it, and then night
- 22:52Speaker 3: two now becomes not only Oba versus Lesler Hell in
- 22:55Speaker 3: the Cell, but it's Oba versus Lesler Hell in the
- 22:58Speaker 3: Cell for the World Heavyweight champion ship.
- 23:01Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 23:03Speaker 3: How much bigger of a fucking Summer Slam made? EVI
- 23:06Speaker 3: could you have gotten man?
- 23:08Speaker 6: Drew shut up with your good ideas. It's true though,
- 23:12Speaker 6: Like that's that's kind of I feel like it was
- 23:16Speaker 6: an obvious booking and we're just all like, what the
- 23:20Speaker 6: fuck are we missing? Like what what is what are
- 23:23Speaker 6: they thinking?
- 23:24Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
- 23:25Speaker 6: Like that we just don't know, Like we the four
- 23:27Speaker 6: of us blaintly just don't know where the fuck they're
- 23:29Speaker 6: going this direction?
- 23:30Speaker 3: Well, sometimes they just refuse to take the win, I know.
- 23:34Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, if if there's anything to take
- 23:39Speaker 7: away from all this is that there's an example in
- 23:41Speaker 7: one of these matches later on in our review where
- 23:45Speaker 7: this exact situation comes into play, like the whole out
- 23:48Speaker 7: of the blue thing. That's all I'm gonna say, Okay, do.
- 23:54Speaker 3: You have anything?
- 23:55Speaker 6: Do you have anything to say? Are we gonna move on?
- 23:58Speaker 5: Very critic mhm.
- 24:01Speaker 7: For for those that aren't in the know and they're
- 24:04Speaker 7: coming here to figure out what happened on that Champions,
- 24:06Speaker 7: I'm not going to spoil it just yet.
- 24:08Speaker 6: Get there.
- 24:12Speaker 3: I would assume anybody who's listening to this show has
- 24:15Speaker 3: sleep seen the p l E.
- 24:17Speaker 7: Hey, you know there could be a select cutout there
- 24:20Speaker 7: that you know. That's why they're that's why they're pc
- 24:23Speaker 7: W maniacs.
- 24:26Speaker 5: Oh this guy, Hey, well, let's ask them. Let's ask them,
- 24:29Speaker 5: have either of you? Yeah?
- 24:39Speaker 3: AnyWho, I guess I'm done written. We're done raving about
- 24:43Speaker 3: about this match, so let's move on to the other side.
- 24:47Speaker 3: The Queen of the Ring Tournament final EO Sky facing
- 24:52Speaker 3: Liv Morgan Live Morgan, who, by the way, is the
- 24:57Speaker 3: women's world champion in the finals of the Queen of
- 25:02Speaker 3: the Ring Tournament, where the winner gets to face champion
- 25:07Speaker 3: of their choice at SummerSlam. Fortunately they didn't go completely
- 25:14Speaker 3: brain fucking dead and have Live Morgan win this ship. Instead,
- 25:19Speaker 3: EO Sky beat Live Morgan just to immediately say, hey,
- 25:24Speaker 3: let's run it back in a few weeks.
- 25:26Speaker 5: They couldn't. They couldn't.
- 25:28Speaker 8: They couldn't even string that out for a couple of weeks,
- 25:32Speaker 8: like who's the Who's You could have gotten two weeks
- 25:34Speaker 8: out of Who's gonna pick and.
- 25:38Speaker 3: Get two weeks out of who EO is gonna pick
- 25:40Speaker 3: when one of her freaking options is on the damn
- 25:43Speaker 3: bench with an injury.
- 25:45Speaker 6: But like they kind of put themselves in the corner
- 25:48Speaker 6: because it's like we literally just saw this match and
- 25:51Speaker 6: she won clean, Like like it was just a book.
- 25:57Speaker 6: They booked themselves in their corner. It just seems stupid
- 26:01Speaker 6: because again, the obvious pit, the obvious route to go was,
- 26:06Speaker 6: you know, EO and Real. That's what we want to see,
- 26:10Speaker 6: That's what we've been bleeding into. So like why I
- 26:12Speaker 6: think to have been safe, they shouldn't even live in
- 26:15Speaker 6: it to begin with. You could have you could have
- 26:18Speaker 6: had Raquel take that spot of rock, sand Perez somebody else. Yeah,
- 26:22Speaker 6: you didn't have to have live in there to get
- 26:26Speaker 6: to this, right.
- 26:28Speaker 3: I think more people want I don't know that. I
- 26:32Speaker 3: think eversus Real was the obvious choice. I think more
- 26:35Speaker 3: people would have been more No, I think more people
- 26:38Speaker 3: would be would have been more interested in a Judgment
- 26:40Speaker 3: day fallout than versus Real. We've we've gotten EO versus Real.
- 26:47Speaker 3: We've seen that match a number of times.
- 26:49Speaker 8: There's new there, right, But when that, when that happens again,
- 26:54Speaker 8: it's gonna need to build up.
- 26:55Speaker 5: It's not gonna be It's not. It can't just be
- 26:58Speaker 5: just because match just so much emotional investment there, there
- 27:02Speaker 5: has to be. Uh.
- 27:03Speaker 8: They reunite for a little while and one of them
- 27:06Speaker 8: betrays the other one or will one betray the other.
- 27:08Speaker 9: One, and.
- 27:11Speaker 5: Yeah, like they can't just they can't just have a
- 27:13Speaker 5: match in six weeks and that's the big, real match.
- 27:16Speaker 3: Yeah, it has to have some sort of emotional investment.
- 27:20Speaker 5: Yes, and that's going to take a while.
- 27:21Speaker 7: I I have to disagree.
- 27:23Speaker 5: I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought. I thought
- 27:26Speaker 5: Raquel Lived would have been so much better for summer time.
- 27:29Speaker 3: Either one, Raquel or Rauell would have been the better choice.
- 27:35Speaker 3: Nothing against EO. I love Io, but just the whole
- 27:39Speaker 3: Queen of the Ring tournament has been terrible, to be
- 27:44Speaker 3: weird and terrible from the beginning, just from the moment
- 27:47Speaker 3: they put Live Morgan in it, just to have her
- 27:50Speaker 3: get to the finals lose, and for the person and
- 27:55Speaker 3: that beat her to be immediately challenger to a rematch.
- 27:59Speaker 3: I mean, all one hand, this one. This puts pressure
- 28:02Speaker 3: on EO and Live to outdo themselves at SummerSlam, because
- 28:07Speaker 3: this match setting all setting everything else aside. This was
- 28:11Speaker 3: actually a really good match between the two they got agree.
- 28:15Speaker 5: I agree, I agree, but I thought it would have
- 28:17Speaker 5: been better.
- 28:19Speaker 8: And then when when they immediately were like we're doing
- 28:21Speaker 8: the rematch, I go, oh, okay, that makes sense.
- 28:23Speaker 5: They're leaving something on the field. You know they're leaving
- 28:25Speaker 5: a little bit on the field.
- 28:26Speaker 3: Sure, do you think they're gonna get more than fifteen
- 28:29Speaker 3: minutes a summer Slam? I would hope so, because that's
- 28:33Speaker 3: what they got tonight, or that's what they got at this.
- 28:35Speaker 5: Show, because it wasn't very good match. You're asolutely right
- 28:38Speaker 5: about that. But I'm expected more, which is not kind
- 28:41Speaker 5: of unfair, I suppose, but.
- 28:45Speaker 3: Well fair. I mean, we both know they're capable of more,
- 28:50Speaker 3: absolutely capable of cooking if given the time. But now
- 28:54Speaker 3: that they've we've gotten this match and we're gonna get
- 28:58Speaker 3: it all over again and four weeks, that really puts
- 29:02Speaker 3: the pressure on them to deliver more because this match
- 29:04Speaker 3: itself is going to be fresh in people's mind still
- 29:07Speaker 3: four weeks from now.
- 29:12Speaker 6: Tyler, you said you disagreed.
- 29:14Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, excuse me. As far as like how to execute,
- 29:21Speaker 7: Like if we were talking about.
- 29:23Speaker 3: Like a Rio and.
- 29:26Speaker 7: Eo and Rhea storyline, Uh, I can't. I can't see
- 29:30Speaker 7: another situation where women are tagged up and then they
- 29:34Speaker 7: lose and then the frustration boils over. We just saw
- 29:37Speaker 7: that with Bailey and Lyra. Can we get something different
- 29:41Speaker 7: for breaking up a woman's tag team because it's the
- 29:44Speaker 7: same thing over and over. I get it, people get
- 29:47Speaker 7: emotional and everything, but like if that was to if
- 29:50Speaker 7: that was how it was to go, I understand, you know,
- 29:53Speaker 7: but I mean there's plenty.
- 29:55Speaker 5: Of other ways you can go. Look at Julia and
- 29:57Speaker 5: Keana James. Oh wait, that's a bad thing. But no,
- 30:05Speaker 5: I'm good. Sorry.
- 30:07Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, if we had more faith in
- 30:10Speaker 3: ww's creative right now, then yeah we could sit here
- 30:14Speaker 3: and say that there are more directions that they could go. Sure,
- 30:18Speaker 3: but one, I don't have much faith in their creative,
- 30:22Speaker 3: in WW creative right now to come up with something
- 30:24Speaker 3: more interesting and new for their storyline, at least not
- 30:28Speaker 3: at this point in time while they're trying to juggle
- 30:31Speaker 3: so many other things. Maybe if they have less things
- 30:34Speaker 3: to juggle and they can focus exclusively on this match
- 30:37Speaker 3: or make this one of their top priorities, an EO
- 30:40Speaker 3: real match, then yeah, I could have some confidence in it.
- 30:43Speaker 3: But as it stands right now, no, I wouldn't have
- 30:46Speaker 3: much confidence in it. And again, we're not that far
- 30:50Speaker 3: removed from them being friends and they and tagged up.
- 30:55Speaker 3: They specifically went their separate ways very intentionally for them
- 31:00Speaker 3: to do their own thing. It wouldn't make much sense
- 31:03Speaker 3: for them to be pulled right back into each other's
- 31:06Speaker 3: orbit so quickly. And again Ria is on the sideline injured,
- 31:13Speaker 3: So I don't know what, if anything, they're doing with
- 31:16Speaker 3: her right now which sidebar. It is not lost on
- 31:20Speaker 3: me the amount of crickets that have been present about
- 31:25Speaker 3: Ria being champion, not depending the title, even if it
- 31:29Speaker 3: is due to injury, but just nothing and they just
- 31:35Speaker 3: not doing anything about it, whereas it there's been a
- 31:38Speaker 3: different champion, although noise would have been deafening.
- 31:46Speaker 6: He got he wasn't even undressed yet.
- 31:50Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, or jade brains without much action, and people
- 32:00Speaker 3: would not shut the funk up about it. Movies hit
- 32:04Speaker 3: the title, this logan hits, do anything. She hit the title,
- 32:07Speaker 3: this log hits it, do anything? How long we have
- 32:09Speaker 3: been champion and they did ship with it? Oh, nobody's
- 32:13Speaker 3: saying nothing at this point. Real fans are simps to me,
- 32:18Speaker 3: that's already explained. They are simps. It's are simping hard
- 32:24Speaker 3: for Riha. She can do no wrong in their eyes,
- 32:28Speaker 3: but everybody while other people get held in different standards,
- 32:32Speaker 3: they're simps. Real fans are simps at this point simps
- 32:36Speaker 3: for their little golf queen damn acting like they not.
- 32:49Speaker 5: Okay.
- 32:55Speaker 6: Last episode, I did bring up the fact that she
- 32:57Speaker 6: doesn't you know, get her title snatched from her, and
- 33:02Speaker 6: and we did say that maybe it's because the injury
- 33:05Speaker 6: is not as bad and they expect her to be
- 33:07Speaker 6: you know, back in the ring.
- 33:08Speaker 5: Sooner or later.
- 33:09Speaker 6: But the route we're going, I don't think so. So
- 33:13Speaker 6: I've said it and I still believe in it. That's
- 33:16Speaker 6: that title. Then keep storylines moving because we had to
- 33:21Speaker 6: hold back a storyline for a woman who doesn't even
- 33:24Speaker 6: have a title, Stephanie Vaquier, who's still fucking out, And
- 33:28Speaker 6: we were holding back any title changes or matches with
- 33:31Speaker 6: Live because of it. And and how we're doing the
- 33:35Speaker 6: same thing with Rhea, even though you know, that title
- 33:39Speaker 6: could be circulating somewhere on the roster or somebody, and
- 33:43Speaker 6: that's an opportunity for another wrestler to rise to the occasion,
- 33:48Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Like sometimes some great title
- 33:52Speaker 6: runs have been made off of a former champion being
- 33:56Speaker 6: injured and having to you know, relinquish that title. That's
- 34:01Speaker 6: how new store stars are sometimes born and like made
- 34:05Speaker 6: not by the company, but like by us fans like
- 34:09Speaker 6: they put somebody in who's hot right now? So like
- 34:12Speaker 6: there is I can't think off the top of my
- 34:14Speaker 6: head who what female like would be the right one
- 34:17Speaker 6: to put in that position, you know, But like.
- 34:23Speaker 3: I that is one problem yeah right now that I
- 34:25Speaker 3: don't know that there is a single woman on the
- 34:28Speaker 3: roster who is hot enough right now to warrant that.
- 34:32Speaker 3: But in the absence of that, you could just this
- 34:35Speaker 3: would be one time where it'd probably be okay to
- 34:37Speaker 3: go with a safe option in Rihea's absence and have
- 34:42Speaker 3: a tournament or whatever however you want to have it. Well,
- 34:46Speaker 3: you could have had you could have made the Queen
- 34:48Speaker 3: of the Ring tournament for the women for the w
- 34:50Speaker 3: W Women's title, in light of Ria being out with
- 34:54Speaker 3: an injury.
- 34:55Speaker 6: That's true.
- 34:56Speaker 3: And then at least if you did that and Live
- 34:59Speaker 3: Morgan into the tournament, she would have had a legitimate,
- 35:02Speaker 3: sensible reason for being there, because she wanted to be
- 35:05Speaker 3: a double champion. You just completely eliminate the whole challenging
- 35:11Speaker 3: champion for a cause it's or just the challenging clause
- 35:15Speaker 3: and just make it it's for this title, so then
- 35:17Speaker 3: Live is in it for a valid reason. I want
- 35:20Speaker 3: to monopolize both of them. I want to be the
- 35:22Speaker 3: greatest champion of all time or whatever that at least
- 35:27Speaker 3: makes it legitimate, incredible. And then she's in the finals
- 35:31Speaker 3: against EO. Okay, it's for the woman, it's for the
- 35:33Speaker 3: ww Women's title. El wins it, Eel's champ, and then
- 35:37Speaker 3: if Eil wins it in Eel's champ, guess what you
- 35:40Speaker 3: have waiting in the wings when she comes back EO
- 35:44Speaker 3: versus real storyline Filton, right there. If you want to
- 35:47Speaker 3: go back to it that quickly, it's right there for you.
- 35:53Speaker 3: Or you could go the safe rout and put it
- 35:55Speaker 3: on somebody like Charlotte. If you want to go someone
- 35:59Speaker 3: with someone safe until we can return, give it to Charlotte.
- 36:05Speaker 3: If you want to shock everybody and break the mold,
- 36:09Speaker 3: you got a beast like lash legend right there. Yeah,
- 36:14Speaker 3: you have options other than just damn, this person's out.
- 36:18Speaker 3: She's super popular, so we don't want to take the
- 36:20Speaker 3: title off of her, So we're just gonna sit and
- 36:22Speaker 3: do nothing and just wait.
- 36:28Speaker 6: I'm always for throwing it on Charlotte. Why not, right,
- 36:33Speaker 6: let's get her up there at sixteen times. She's a
- 36:35Speaker 6: fourteen time Women's Champion, So why.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Not enough now that I wouldn't be opposed to it.
- 36:44Speaker 6: Oh my god, I see my hand.
- 36:48Speaker 8: Since we have a high level women's feud actually involving
- 36:52Speaker 8: Charlotte that doesn't involve a title, which I think is
- 36:56Speaker 8: a net positive.
- 36:57Speaker 6: Right right, Yeah, you have the fans, stud I really
- 37:02Speaker 6: like Charlotte.
- 37:04Speaker 3: Yeah, Charlotte has I was Charlotte in the last what
- 37:08Speaker 3: maybe six months to a year. She's really had a
- 37:12Speaker 3: bit of a makeover fan perception towards her.
- 37:17Speaker 5: Thank you. Yeah, and it really started with that Players
- 37:21Speaker 5: Tribute article. H Yeah.
- 37:25Speaker 3: Since then, she's she's been cooking. She's like, like, I
- 37:28Speaker 3: like Charlotte now.
- 37:30Speaker 10: I know when you said that, I put my hand
- 37:32Speaker 10: on my chest. I was like, oh my god, hell
- 37:35Speaker 10: hell froze over. I was like, holy ship big, it's
- 37:39Speaker 10: a big one.
- 37:42Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:43Speaker 6: So I mean if they can do that and you know,
- 37:48Speaker 6: turn you on on on chart, then you know anything's possible.
- 37:51Speaker 3: I guess.
- 37:54Speaker 7: I mean I get to grow wings tomorrow.
- 37:56Speaker 6: Yeah, right, only did you drink red Bull?
- 37:59Speaker 3: Oh?
- 38:02Speaker 7: Non sponsor.
- 38:04Speaker 6: That's all I got to say about that match.
- 38:07Speaker 5: Else.
- 38:09Speaker 3: Yeah, we can move on to the next match, which
- 38:11Speaker 3: was seth Rollins facing bron Breaker in a still cage match,
- 38:18Speaker 3: which was match that saw Seth Rollins come out on
- 38:25Speaker 3: top after an avalanche stomp to bron Breaker. This match,
- 38:34Speaker 3: it was It was a good match again, it was
- 38:37Speaker 3: a very good match. It did deliver. They threw everything
- 38:41Speaker 3: at each other. This was probably arguably the match of
- 38:44Speaker 3: the night on this show, but the wrong person won.
- 38:50Speaker 3: In my opinion, I don't know what Seth what winning
- 38:56Speaker 3: this match did for Seth Rollins. I don't know anything
- 39:01Speaker 3: that he gained for it from it other than oh,
- 39:05Speaker 3: he can finally put the vision behind him. He could
- 39:07Speaker 3: have put the fucking chel behind him if he lost.
- 39:11Speaker 3: I mean, did they think that it wouldn't look good
- 39:14Speaker 3: for Seth Rollins to come out there and challenge Roman
- 39:17Speaker 3: if he had just lost a bron Breaker. Maybe?
- 39:21Speaker 5: I think that's it.
- 39:23Speaker 3: Probably, But now you've got one of your brightest stars
- 39:27Speaker 3: that's come out of a match, or come out of
- 39:31Speaker 3: a feud having lost twice, even if it is to
- 39:36Speaker 3: somebody the caliber of the Seth Rollins, If this guy
- 39:39Speaker 3: is supposed to represent your future and somebody that you're
- 39:42Speaker 3: building up, doing a pretty damn bad job about it,
- 39:45Speaker 3: Because where does bron Breaker go from here. He seems
- 39:49Speaker 3: too big for the mid card, but not strong enough
- 39:53Speaker 3: for the main event, but good enough to be in
- 39:56Speaker 3: the main event. That puts him in a very weird space.
- 40:04Speaker 3: So I don't know what they do with bron Breaker
- 40:06Speaker 3: other than well, now you can have I'll say, I'll say,
- 40:09Speaker 3: regulate them back to defending the tight titles. But now
- 40:11Speaker 3: they ain't even got those. That's what those are in
- 40:13Speaker 3: the street profits now? Is that what they're gonna be doing?
- 40:17Speaker 3: Is it? Is the Vision even still a thinging even more?
- 40:21Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just gonna say I don't know how much
- 40:22Speaker 5: longer the Vision is going to be with us.
- 40:24Speaker 3: Based on Paul, Based on how Paul Hayman treated Austin
- 40:28Speaker 3: Theory on Monday, it seemed like even Paul Hayman is
- 40:31Speaker 3: kind of down on them. He's like, I didn't even
- 40:33Speaker 3: know you were here. I cant imagine coming up and
- 40:35Speaker 3: Paul Haman just looked at him and said, you didn't
- 40:37Speaker 3: know I'm here, Well now you do, and walk the
- 40:40Speaker 3: fuck off close to a middle finger to Austin Theory
- 40:45Speaker 3: as you can get, which Jesus.
- 40:49Speaker 5: And the ultimate result of that I could see. I mean,
- 40:51Speaker 5: I don't know if this will happen.
- 40:52Speaker 8: Obviously, I could see an Austin theory babyface turned uh
- 40:57Speaker 8: and maybe he and Breaker have a feud, say something
- 41:00Speaker 8: like that.
- 41:01Speaker 5: But so that's like not much meat for Breaker.
- 41:05Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, I know that like that, I ain't gonna
- 41:07Speaker 3: do nothing for bron Breaker to him to squash out
- 41:10Speaker 3: Austin theory. I even know if I'm like that. I
- 41:16Speaker 3: don't know if Austin theory is boys for a face
- 41:19Speaker 3: turn right now, given his interaction with Maxine Debris, Yeah,
- 41:23Speaker 3: definitely not to me. That wasn't a that wasn't a
- 41:25Speaker 3: baby face interaction with that he had with her.
- 41:28Speaker 6: Yeah, now he's working as a heel right now. Anyways,
- 41:32Speaker 6: it would be it would be hard to get Austin
- 41:34Speaker 6: theory over face right now.
- 41:36Speaker 3: I went hard.
- 41:37Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't know. He's like Logan Paul. It's like
- 41:40Speaker 6: just one of those guys. You're probably just kind of
- 41:42Speaker 6: boo and it's just forever. That's how it's gonna be.
- 41:46Speaker 3: Oh, but I don't I would not put him into
- 41:49Speaker 3: Logan Paul category. I think Logan Paul is a forever
- 41:52Speaker 3: is damn near forever. He'll because people just don't like
- 41:56Speaker 3: that motherfucker. I don't know that people feel that way
- 41:59Speaker 3: about Austin. I think people, for the worst part, just
- 42:02Speaker 3: don't care about Austin theory. They haven't been given any
- 42:05Speaker 3: reason to invest in him as a character. Logan Paul,
- 42:10Speaker 3: Both fuckers just fucking hate Logan Paul period.
- 42:14Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a natural feeling.
- 42:17Speaker 5: Yeah, man.
- 42:17Speaker 6: There were some good spots in this match, though, Like
- 42:20Speaker 6: I mean, I we got the superplex off the top
- 42:24Speaker 6: of the cage, you know, through a table. That was
- 42:27Speaker 6: that was a pretty good spot. We saw Braun spear
- 42:30Speaker 6: himself through a table and then he got busted open
- 42:34Speaker 6: pretty good. So there was a lot of color, a
- 42:36Speaker 6: lot of blood everywhere from his face.
- 42:38Speaker 3: Uh you know.
- 42:39Speaker 6: We saw the he Ron's pedigreed him and then Curve
- 42:45Speaker 6: stopped them and didn't put them away, so he kicked
- 42:48Speaker 6: out of that. I was like, oh, okay, So I
- 42:53Speaker 6: thought the Curve stamp was the end all be all, Like,
- 42:56Speaker 6: you know, I understand the kickout for the pedigree, but
- 42:58Speaker 6: normally when he curve stumps people, that's it, You're done.
- 43:02Speaker 6: But it was a it was a kickout, and uh,
- 43:05Speaker 6: you're right, he had to do like a super curb song.
- 43:09Speaker 6: That's what I had here. Uh yeah, the Super Curbs. So,
- 43:18Speaker 6: but I guess I would have liked this match to
- 43:21Speaker 6: go a little bit longer, just a little bit, I agree, Dre.
- 43:25Speaker 6: It was match of the night and after seeing Monday
- 43:29Speaker 6: Night Roll, I don't know, division is pretty much.
- 43:33Speaker 5: How much longer it was? Like long?
- 43:36Speaker 3: How much longer did you want to was the longest match? Yeah?
- 43:41Speaker 6: Nineteen five? Maybe I don't know, Maybe it was the
- 43:44Speaker 6: Did that did that include the sitting in the chair
- 43:46Speaker 6: staying at each other?
- 43:48Speaker 5: You know?
- 43:49Speaker 6: I guess, I don't know. I guess I expected more
- 43:52Speaker 6: kendo sticks and steel chair used. But uh, you know whatever,
- 43:56Speaker 6: we we got what we got, right, Uh, this few
- 43:59Speaker 6: is now over. Let's put it behind us. Hopefully the
- 44:03Speaker 6: Vision gets disbanded because of the terrible luck. You got
- 44:06Speaker 6: the titles off of him, right, you got the feud
- 44:09Speaker 6: over with Cool disband them, Paul. Like how he suddenly
- 44:16Speaker 6: like left like last night, like the way he like
- 44:19Speaker 6: what you said, Dre, that was. I think that's a
- 44:21Speaker 6: great sign in the direction of their heading. If they're
- 44:24Speaker 6: breaking this group up, Uh, where they go with Braun
- 44:29Speaker 6: because he's just been fucking losing matches? Man, he's just
- 44:32Speaker 6: been He lost the sampunk when he had that world
- 44:35Speaker 6: title shot, then he lost the tag titles recently, and
- 44:38Speaker 6: you know he's been not having such good luck with
- 44:40Speaker 6: his injury and.
- 44:42Speaker 3: You know this year.
- 44:42Speaker 6: So yeah, dude, I don't know where the hell we
- 44:45Speaker 6: put bron King. The ring is gone, rumble is gone.
- 44:50Speaker 6: M let me in the bank, question mark how men like?
- 44:55Speaker 6: Where else?
- 44:57Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 44:57Speaker 6: I mean that could be a guy because because if
- 45:00Speaker 6: not on Monday Night roll, I feel like he's gonna
- 45:04Speaker 6: get buried or not buried, but overshadowed by guys like
- 45:08Speaker 6: Oba and even Javon Evans. You know, like we have
- 45:12Speaker 6: these newer guys who were just climbing that ladder, and
- 45:15Speaker 6: I thought bron Breaker was that guy to get to
- 45:17Speaker 6: the top as fast as possible. I mean, you know,
- 45:21Speaker 6: I honestly thought bron may have been on the track
- 45:24Speaker 6: for a world title faster than Oba.
- 45:28Speaker 5: But geez, I guess, I know, I guess what you're
- 45:33Speaker 5: saying there.
- 45:34Speaker 8: But I think, right, I think Breaker and Oba and
- 45:37Speaker 8: Javon are all three different enough from each other that
- 45:41Speaker 8: I don't.
- 45:41Speaker 11: Think any of them are going to get in each
- 45:43Speaker 11: other's way, like I think Solo and Jacob are way
- 45:47Speaker 11: too similar, you know, at least they were at first,
- 45:52Speaker 11: you know, and they kind of made they kind of
- 45:53Speaker 11: made themselves redundant, you know, and I think Solo certainly
- 45:56Speaker 11: suffered for it.
- 45:58Speaker 5: But I think there's room for all three of those
- 46:00Speaker 5: guys to ascend at the same time.
- 46:03Speaker 8: I mean, you know, we how many times we saw
- 46:05Speaker 8: Rock and Austin and Big Nose Triple H kind of
- 46:08Speaker 8: all ascending at the same time.
- 46:11Speaker 5: You know, there was they were all on their own lane.
- 46:14Speaker 5: You know, I think you can do all those things
- 46:16Speaker 5: at the same time.
- 46:18Speaker 8: Yeah, future it seems pretty uncertain.
- 46:22Speaker 5: It's certainly yeah.
- 46:26Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just like, don't fucking drop the ball with
- 46:28Speaker 6: this guy, Like seriously, like this is one of the guys,
- 46:33Speaker 6: like kind of those three guys that you mentioned, like
- 46:36Speaker 6: and and you know at Jacob in there, Like these
- 46:38Speaker 6: are guys you want to put world titles on down
- 46:42Speaker 6: the road. This is the guys you want to replace
- 46:44Speaker 6: your main events stars, I mean, like it or not.
- 46:47Speaker 6: Guys like punk guys like uh, you know, seth Ron's
- 46:52Speaker 6: and Rowan Rains could be on their way out. You know,
- 46:55Speaker 6: these are the new stars, These are the future of
- 46:59Speaker 6: the company. You know of the business of the business.
- 47:03Speaker 6: As some cat was said, Tyler, you want to chime
- 47:08Speaker 6: in here.
- 47:11Speaker 7: Excuse me, a really good match breathed was breathing down
- 47:15Speaker 7: the wrong tube there. For a second, I thought they
- 47:21Speaker 7: utilized pretty much everything they could in the in the environment,
- 47:26Speaker 7: you know, it was it was very physical, uh, especially
- 47:29Speaker 7: bron taking that freaking that ricocheted table shot after he
- 47:32Speaker 7: got freaking uh slammed through it. I don't know if
- 47:36Speaker 7: anybody else caught that, but that's what busted him open.
- 47:41Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, Well I.
- 47:43Speaker 1: Thought, like, like some people are super reverse to blood, right,
- 47:47Speaker 1: I'm not one of those people, but I don't need
- 47:49Speaker 1: to see it every fucking match, right, even though this
- 47:52Speaker 1: is this is on accident.
- 47:55Speaker 8: The purpose of blood would have been would have been
- 47:56Speaker 8: fine because like this is a place where blood made
- 47:59Speaker 8: a lot of sense, right, I think I think broun
- 48:03Speaker 8: Breaker's face dripping.
- 48:05Speaker 7: There at the end, yep, it really added and it
- 48:09Speaker 7: enhanced like the like you said, even if it was
- 48:12Speaker 7: accidentally like it, you know, just having that little that
- 48:15Speaker 7: little bit of in there, it adds to the intensity
- 48:18Speaker 7: you know that they're trying to And it was it
- 48:22Speaker 7: was well done, like like like you guys said at
- 48:24Speaker 7: the beginning, possibly match of the night. Uh, and I
- 48:31Speaker 7: mean if we if we're if we're going to talk
- 48:32Speaker 7: about the stomp. You know Jay's super kick, like is
- 48:38Speaker 7: the what defines a finisher anymore, you know? But you know, uh,
- 48:46Speaker 7: Rollin's getting the win, and we know where he's headed now.
- 48:49Speaker 7: And I don't know it's trying to scratch my head
- 48:54Speaker 7: for breaker and figuring.
- 48:55Speaker 5: Out what to do with him.
- 48:57Speaker 7: Uh it's Penta doing you know another I C run
- 49:04Speaker 7: or something.
- 49:04Speaker 3: I don't know, but he's still the champion.
- 49:09Speaker 7: I haven't what has it been.
- 49:11Speaker 6: He hasn't been on TV past like two three. Well,
- 49:15Speaker 6: I you know what, because just had a match with
- 49:17Speaker 6: Ray Mysterio.
- 49:21Speaker 5: This week.
- 49:22Speaker 7: No, uh, Ray Studio had to match with Ethan Page.
- 49:26Speaker 3: That was this week. But him and Ray had a
- 49:30Speaker 3: match title.
- 49:32Speaker 7: So he's getting he's getting well deserved week off. Then
- 49:38Speaker 7: I know he was he was on TV because he
- 49:40Speaker 7: he didn't have the face paint on, but he was
- 49:42Speaker 7: there with his mask and he dabbed up. I think, yo,
- 49:47Speaker 7: oh yeah yeah.
- 49:50Speaker 5: So I'm sorry. I'm sure the pain asked to put
- 49:53Speaker 5: all that ship on. But if he's on TV, he's
- 49:55Speaker 5: gotta have all of it on. Yeah, right him with him,
- 49:57Speaker 5: without him with the mask and out to make up.
- 50:00Speaker 5: It looks so weird. It was.
- 50:02Speaker 7: It was like ruin Yep, it was.
- 50:05Speaker 3: It was like a cool.
- 50:09Speaker 5: Yeah freak.
- 50:10Speaker 6: You know what we didn't talk about Dan Housen. I
- 50:16Speaker 6: know we talked about Live Morgan and the Judgment Day
- 50:18Speaker 6: with dan Housen cursing the Judgment Day, Uh, cursing Live
- 50:24Speaker 6: Morgan and uh this could this be the end of
- 50:28Speaker 6: the Judgment Day? Could dan Housen be the one to
- 50:31Speaker 6: disband them curse them all? But yeah, I thought that's
- 50:35Speaker 6: like apparently he had like a hundred one hundred thousand
- 50:39Speaker 6: dollars he took from them.
- 50:41Speaker 7: Yeah, or something like that. Uh, And they wanted him
- 50:45Speaker 7: to like what make it?
- 50:46Speaker 5: They're gonna wear him out, man, They they got it.
- 50:50Speaker 5: They got a cooler on the dan Housen ship. I mean,
- 50:52Speaker 5: I love the guy. I'm glad he's over. I'm glad
- 50:55Speaker 5: he's doing well, but they're kinda wearing out already on
- 50:58Speaker 5: the way to do it. He was in what like
- 51:00Speaker 5: five segments on Raw Are you kidding me?
- 51:04Speaker 7: Was only in two?
- 51:05Speaker 5: You know? Or like like it's just too much. It's like,
- 51:10Speaker 5: just use them. They really need to cut down on
- 51:12Speaker 5: how much series are doing because some.
- 51:15Speaker 3: Stuff is working. I agree with some stuff is working.
- 51:19Speaker 3: Some stuff is not. Like the whole thing with him
- 51:22Speaker 3: the justment day he cursed lived Morgan beforehand, took the
- 51:25Speaker 3: money and all stuff. To me, that's a storyline that's
- 51:27Speaker 3: working that they could run with the whole kit. Wilson,
- 51:31Speaker 3: miss stuff is stupid as shit to me, that part
- 51:37Speaker 3: isn't working. The whole him having a lab conducting experiments
- 51:41Speaker 3: or whatever backstage at every raw and SmackDown to me,
- 51:44Speaker 3: that shit's not working. Like, I agree with you. They
- 51:49Speaker 3: need to dial some of this back to an extent.
- 51:53Speaker 3: Stick with the stuff that is working that is good,
- 51:56Speaker 3: and just drop the stuff that's not.
- 52:02Speaker 5: You're gonna run it into the ground.
- 52:05Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, moving on.
- 52:10Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 52:11Speaker 3: So the next match was Trick Williams facing defending the
- 52:17Speaker 3: United States Championship against Ricky Saints, which Trick Williams obviously won.
- 52:26Speaker 3: I don't know that there's really a whole lot to
- 52:28Speaker 3: say about this match. It was This could have been
- 52:31Speaker 3: a SmackDown match, honestly, there was. There wasn't anything special
- 52:35Speaker 3: about it. The best thing I can say about it
- 52:37Speaker 3: is like this match and the following match of Tiffany
- 52:41Speaker 3: and Jade, at least we finally got the United States
- 52:46Speaker 3: Championships defended on a p l E.
- 52:51Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean it's gonna get both Trick and
- 52:53Speaker 5: Ricky on Also just.
- 52:56Speaker 8: In general, Yeah, I never never once thought Ricky was
- 53:00Speaker 8: gonna win, but he looks all right.
- 53:03Speaker 5: The crowd didn't seem to care much about I don't know,
- 53:06Speaker 5: if we want to talk about them at the same time.
- 53:09Speaker 3: We might as well. I mean, yeah, Tiffany Striden also.
- 53:15Speaker 5: Yeah, you said about time we got the US title
- 53:18Speaker 5: on paper view. That was the first time the women's
- 53:20Speaker 5: US title has been on pay.
- 53:21Speaker 3: Per view period, correct, correct? Yeah, that was This was
- 53:25Speaker 3: the first time for that title. Yeah. Both matches were
- 53:30Speaker 3: pretty run of the mill. Could have been on SmackDown.
- 53:33Speaker 3: Both of them the champions, both of them defended successfully.
- 53:40Speaker 3: Jay car Gills match had Shenanigans and the Little Galore. Yeah,
- 53:45Speaker 3: Shanahan against Galore with the Batties coming out and Chelsea
- 53:49Speaker 3: Green showing up and then didn't Was this this this match?
- 53:55Speaker 3: Was it the spot where Chelsea Green had the kindlestick
- 53:58Speaker 3: and then went to enter the race, No dropped it.
- 54:01Speaker 6: I saw that that dude, that was funny. Ship like
- 54:06Speaker 6: the way she like she chose to explained the tyler
- 54:09Speaker 6: because you didn't see it. She was running down the
- 54:11Speaker 6: ring and it looked like the way was it was
- 54:15Speaker 6: it me chen or beefab she hit first? It was
- 54:20Speaker 6: hit first, but like it looked like straight up ran
- 54:23Speaker 6: into it right, and it looked like Chelsea didn't have
- 54:26Speaker 6: that planned. And and then she like goes runs into
- 54:30Speaker 6: the ring and the kindowstick catches the rope on the
- 54:33Speaker 6: outside and just know that it springs off of the Yeah,
- 54:38Speaker 6: it springs off of it, and she drops it. Uh,
- 54:41Speaker 6: but she threw the other two out the ring. But
- 54:43Speaker 6: it was funny because you know it's that's the thing.
- 54:47Speaker 6: It's live TV. You know, anything can happen. It's it's
- 54:50Speaker 6: being able to follow through and make up things on
- 54:54Speaker 6: the spot with make pretty.
- 54:57Speaker 3: Planning spot Like the way she the way she hel
- 55:00Speaker 3: the kindlestick and she was entering the ring that that
- 55:03Speaker 3: wasn't she didn't accidentally drop it.
- 55:05Speaker 6: Like you sure, maybe maybe she's that fucking good. Okay,
- 55:11Speaker 6: maybe she's that fucking good that maybe maybe you think
- 55:14Speaker 6: that because I totally fucking bought it. I bought it,
- 55:18Speaker 6: You bought it, We all bought it. I mean it
- 55:19Speaker 6: was funny.
- 55:20Speaker 3: I mean, uh, but I bought it until I saw
- 55:24Speaker 3: a freeze frame of her getting in the ring and
- 55:28Speaker 3: you can see she's in the ring the candlestick vertical
- 55:33Speaker 3: with the intent of bouncing it off the rope and
- 55:35Speaker 3: dropping it.
- 55:35Speaker 5: Was that?
- 55:36Speaker 6: Your intent, though, is that you were watching some freeze
- 55:38Speaker 6: frame with some woman getting in the ring. You were
- 55:40Speaker 6: looking for that.
- 55:43Speaker 3: I saw a post on social media where people talked
- 55:45Speaker 3: about the spot and the freeze frame image they used.
- 55:48Speaker 5: Was that?
- 55:49Speaker 6: Okay, okay, that's used for good, not for evil? Gotcha? Yeah, dude,
- 55:57Speaker 6: Like these two matches, I mean, if we're like finding
- 56:00Speaker 6: these two here, they are just basic SmackDown throwaway matches, right,
- 56:05Speaker 6: Tricky versus Ricky uh uh and Tiffy versus Jade, very
- 56:13Speaker 6: standard fucking matches. If there was a time for me
- 56:17Speaker 6: to go to the bathroom, it might have been during
- 56:18Speaker 6: one of those matches. I guess having the interference of
- 56:23Speaker 6: all the other the women and the Tiffany and Stratton
- 56:26Speaker 6: match may have been a little bit exciting. I think
- 56:29Speaker 6: they're they're more working their way towards Jade and Charlotte.
- 56:33Speaker 6: It looks like they've been teasing a lot of I
- 56:36Speaker 6: guess that's where we're heading for those two. You know,
- 56:40Speaker 6: Chelsea and Tiffany the tag team, you know, another women's
- 56:45Speaker 6: tag team for sure. Where the United States title goes Tiffy,
- 56:49Speaker 6: I guess just he retains it. I don't know who
- 56:51Speaker 6: else she has.
- 56:55Speaker 3: She gets to retain it and do nothing with it.
- 56:57Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I was thinking, Like who's next, Like maybe, well,
- 57:00Speaker 6: you know what that's thing though, Maybe that's that's it.
- 57:02Speaker 6: Like there's gonna be a tournament, maybe something open, challenge
- 57:06Speaker 6: somebody fresh, and we just don't know who. So just
- 57:10Speaker 6: praying to god it's not like Natalia or Mietchen again
- 57:14Speaker 6: or I don't know, just something different, something different.
- 57:19Speaker 3: But anyway, Yeah, we ain't doing nothing for that belt,
- 57:23Speaker 3: and that belt ain't doing nothing for her.
- 57:25Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 57:26Speaker 6: And you know what I think for the for the
- 57:30Speaker 6: trick Williams and Ricky match, I I enjoyed her fucking
- 57:35Speaker 6: promos against each other more than the actual match itself.
- 57:38Speaker 6: They cut good promos against each other. But I think
- 57:42Speaker 6: they're gonna be trying a triple threat match. I brought
- 57:45Speaker 6: that up last episode. I think we're gonna be inserting
- 57:48Speaker 6: Carmelo Hayes into this for a Summer Slam triple threat.
- 57:53Speaker 6: That's where I'm putting my money and I think that's
- 57:55Speaker 6: where it's gonna be a little bit more interesting.
- 57:57Speaker 3: So either that or just trick middle of one on one.
- 58:01Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but either way, that's where we're
- 58:03Speaker 6: had in Tyler. Let's let's get your you're pretty quiet
- 58:07Speaker 6: over there, story go ahead. You're still alive taking notes?
- 58:10Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm taking notes, studying and you know, getting
- 58:13Speaker 7: ready for for the next stuff. Basic matches. Agreed. I
- 58:22Speaker 7: thought trick in Saints match was probably like number two
- 58:27Speaker 7: matches the night. I don't know if I'm giving it
- 58:28Speaker 7: too much credit, but I for as much as they
- 58:35Speaker 7: didn't do, they did enough, you know what I mean.
- 58:38Speaker 7: Like it it didn't need to be like one of
- 58:40Speaker 7: those high flying like rough and tumble, you know, ground
- 58:44Speaker 7: and pound matches. You know, they did just enough to
- 58:47Speaker 7: make it mean something and maybe show some promise in
- 58:51Speaker 7: Saints I mean, I I think, like you guys said
- 58:53Speaker 7: it was four ground conclusion, they weren't. They're not taking
- 58:55Speaker 7: the title off a trick anytime soon. But you know,
- 59:00Speaker 7: it showed how far Saints has come along since, you know,
- 59:03Speaker 7: signing over from a W and you know, being in
- 59:07Speaker 7: the XT and and I said it to Wayne too,
- 59:11Speaker 7: I'm really glad. I don't know what the I don't
- 59:14Speaker 7: know what the conception is in the in the business
- 59:16Speaker 7: as far as like when you go from one to another,
- 59:20Speaker 7: if they would like smother you or something like that,
- 59:22Speaker 7: as far as like your development. But I'm glad to
- 59:25Speaker 7: see if they haven't been doing that with guys like
- 59:27Speaker 7: Ethan Page and Ricky Saints, you know what I mean.
- 59:30Speaker 7: They they brought him in, they're giving him a fair shake,
- 59:33Speaker 7: and you're seeing him on pl e's, you know. So
- 59:37Speaker 7: maybe with more time the crowd will grow on Saints.
- 59:41Speaker 7: I've seen a few things from him my life already.
- 59:44Speaker 7: Uh So, I only time will tell for him. But
- 59:49Speaker 7: uh as for what's next for trick and and Tiff,
- 59:54Speaker 7: I guess we'll see you. Only time will tell.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: Any other thoughts on these two US title matches, I'll
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: say the two matches combined were shorter than the Seth
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: Brown match and the main event.
- 1:00:18Speaker 12: Exactly well, I think a good thing coming out of
- 1:00:23Speaker 12: it is that Jade and Tarlt are apparently going to
- 1:00:26Speaker 12: have a feud that's not about a title belt, which
- 1:00:29Speaker 12: is very good for the women's division just in general.
- 1:00:31Speaker 8: Whenever you have a hot feud or exciting feud that
- 1:00:34Speaker 8: doesn't involve a championship for the women, that's always a
- 1:00:36Speaker 8: good thing.
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: I agree.
- 1:00:40Speaker 7: If if anybody is keeping track up to this point.
- 1:00:42Speaker 7: As far as the picks go, Trick and Saints, that
- 1:00:48Speaker 7: was the one that everybody picked on picture together to
- 1:00:51Speaker 7: win that match, the Tiff and j match. However, Wayne
- 1:00:55Speaker 7: and I both took Tiff, Doyle and Dre both took Jade. Fools.
- 1:01:02Speaker 6: They're all fools, I told you, man, Remember when, Remember
- 1:01:05Speaker 6: when I was watching, I stood up in the middle
- 1:01:07Speaker 6: of the living room, stood on the couch. I said, fools,
- 1:01:09Speaker 6: I pointed to the TV. Ye, fools, you did.
- 1:01:14Speaker 7: But you also you also did that for the Breaker
- 1:01:17Speaker 7: Rollins match, which because we all chose wrong on that one.
- 1:01:20Speaker 7: So you were pointing a finger back yourself, all fools.
- 1:01:23Speaker 8: Yeah, well yeah, when you when you're pointing a finger,
- 1:01:27Speaker 8: three fingers pointing back.
- 1:01:28Speaker 7: At you, good point, good point.
- 1:01:34Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: So final match on the card was the Triple Threat
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: match for the w w E Championship, Sammy's ain facing
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: Cody Rhodes, the champion and Gunter, And obviously this was
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: the big thing that came out of this pole because,
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: much to everybody's surprise, fucking Sammy Zaane one and a
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: roll up of Cody Rhodes shocking the world. The entire
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: ww universe was shocked. I was genuinely shocked, like I
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: mean watching it in legitimate jaw on floor shocked that
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: they that they chose Sammy.
- 1:02:27Speaker 8: Yeah, they fucking they needed to do I mean, not
- 1:02:30Speaker 8: even if it wasn't this, they needed to do something,
- 1:02:32Speaker 8: and probably multiple somethings.
- 1:02:34Speaker 5: But like I said, what a great start like this
- 1:02:37Speaker 5: out of the fucking blue. Like I think I said
- 1:02:39Speaker 5: it was.
- 1:02:40Speaker 8: A non zero number of the you know chance of
- 1:02:42Speaker 8: him winning, but I thought it was maybe one, you know.
- 1:02:46Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:02:48Speaker 8: And I had like I've been so down on the
- 1:02:51Speaker 8: product for months, like and it's like boom, I was
- 1:02:54Speaker 8: right back. I was, fuck yeah, you know, I will
- 1:02:58Speaker 8: completely admit like when when you know, the Red Songs
- 1:03:01Speaker 8: win the World Series or or some certain movies, I'll
- 1:03:05Speaker 8: get a little tear in my eyes. Sometimes it really
- 1:03:07Speaker 8: happened a very few times watching pro wrestling, but definitely
- 1:03:11Speaker 8: got a little choked.
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: Up when when Samy won.
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: God damn it.
- 1:03:16Speaker 5: So happy for that guy, uh, because he just seems
- 1:03:19Speaker 5: like a fucking salt of the earth. Motherfucker. Obviously we've
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: all been watching him forever. Uh, even you know before
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: when he was never before Sammy's ant existence and he
- 1:03:30Speaker 5: was at Generico. Uh, he was fucking hilarious. Then. Uh yeah,
- 1:03:36Speaker 5: I mean this is OK. The bonus is that it's
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: my one of my guys that did it. But fucking
- 1:03:42Speaker 5: damn it.
- 1:03:42Speaker 8: Did they need something crazy out of the blue nobody
- 1:03:45Speaker 8: saw coming shock the world kind of moment, and then
- 1:03:48Speaker 8: finally fucking gave us one.
- 1:03:52Speaker 6: Uh Doyle, how many times have we actually kne who
- 1:03:56Speaker 6: I should ask is? Uh dre How many times did
- 1:04:00Speaker 6: you go for your driver's license?
- 1:04:03Speaker 5: Did you?
- 1:04:04Speaker 6: Did you do it like ten times? Did you make
- 1:04:06Speaker 6: like ten attempts?
- 1:04:08Speaker 5: Uh?
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: The first time?
- 1:04:11Speaker 5: First time?
- 1:04:12Speaker 6: Yeah, first time, that's always the best, right the first time.
- 1:04:15Speaker 6: You know, sometimes they do have the second time because
- 1:04:18Speaker 6: I you know, I learned my lessons from the first
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: time I failed. And then there's the infamous uh the
- 1:04:25Speaker 6: third times, the charm, you know, and then after that
- 1:04:29Speaker 6: fourth fifth, it gets kind of hazy, you know, sixth
- 1:04:33Speaker 6: even in golf, you know, it's just terrible.
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: It takes you that many times to get a driver's license.
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: Just get an over account.
- 1:04:38Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, like like, uh, you know, like how many
- 1:04:43Speaker 6: times do you like shoot a basketball to a basket?
- 1:04:46Speaker 6: Missed ten times in a row, and then you think yourself,
- 1:04:48Speaker 6: maybe maybe basketball is not for me. I do right
- 1:04:52Speaker 6: away the first it's not for me.
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: Yeah, uh.
- 1:04:58Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, man, uh ten ten. I They brought that
- 1:05:05Speaker 6: up a lot, like it is ten attempts, and I
- 1:05:08Speaker 6: kept saying myself, that's not a good thing. Though you
- 1:05:10Speaker 6: can bring it up. That means that's ten times. Well, yeah,
- 1:05:15Speaker 6: that's that's ten. No, that's ten times that you the
- 1:05:19Speaker 6: company didn't believe in Sammy's a. So you also like
- 1:05:24Speaker 6: kind of making yourself look like a dumb ass when
- 1:05:26Speaker 6: every time you're like, it's ten times. I told you
- 1:05:29Speaker 6: we tried this ten times and it didn't work, Like
- 1:05:33Speaker 6: like I was like, okay, it was a There were
- 1:05:38Speaker 6: some highlights in the match, you know, I did like
- 1:05:41Speaker 6: when Gunther picked up Cody and power bombed on the
- 1:05:44Speaker 6: top of Sammy. I always like when a wrestler uses
- 1:05:48Speaker 6: another wrestler as a weapon. That's always that's always a
- 1:05:52Speaker 6: favorite of mine, whether they using like like Cizarro would
- 1:05:56Speaker 6: swing somebody around, or like a big wrestler would like
- 1:05:59Speaker 6: pick up a smaller wanted like like throw him like
- 1:06:02Speaker 6: a dart at somebody. You know, those are always always funny.
- 1:06:08Speaker 5: Putting.
- 1:06:09Speaker 6: We got to see Sammy put through a table. We
- 1:06:13Speaker 6: got to see a crossroads reversed by Sammy and and
- 1:06:19Speaker 6: applied to Cody. That was nice. We saw him Sammy
- 1:06:26Speaker 6: go for a hallofa cake and then Gunthar coming out
- 1:06:29Speaker 6: of nowhere to put the sleeper hold on him, and
- 1:06:32Speaker 6: uh then we had the double crossroads. Oh man, I
- 1:06:37Speaker 6: never seen the double crossroads before. Uh yeah, and then
- 1:06:43Speaker 6: the match ends with a our crossroads that we've reversed
- 1:06:47Speaker 6: into a roll up? Like is that how you want
- 1:06:51Speaker 6: your first one to go? A roll up?
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: Man?
- 1:06:54Speaker 6: That's how you'll be remembered, A roll up where.
- 1:07:00Speaker 5: I know, I.
- 1:07:02Speaker 6: Know, I get it.
- 1:07:03Speaker 5: He'll be remembered.
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: Key there is.
- 1:07:05Speaker 8: He'll be remembered exactly right like like like with the
- 1:07:10Speaker 8: exception of maybe Dwayne and maybe Vince.
- 1:07:14Speaker 5: Is there anybody else.
- 1:07:15Speaker 8: Whose first sentence of their obituary isn't going to be
- 1:07:19Speaker 8: former w w W champion Selling.
- 1:07:21Speaker 5: Has passed away. Yeah, like like that, like all you
- 1:07:26Speaker 5: had to do was doing it doesn't matter who cares.
- 1:07:28Speaker 6: Right, right, it's I get it. It's just like Sammy
- 1:07:31Speaker 6: first off had no business being in this fucking match
- 1:07:33Speaker 6: to begin with the only reason why he was put
- 1:07:35Speaker 6: into this match is because of where the match took place.
- 1:07:38Speaker 6: That's it. Well, yeah, because Cody, yes, right, So you
- 1:07:46Speaker 6: you win in a roll up in a triple threat match, like, it's.
- 1:07:50Speaker 5: Just I get it.
- 1:07:52Speaker 6: Wins a win. It doesn't matter if you win by.
- 1:07:55Speaker 3: Any The first world title would roll up.
- 1:07:58Speaker 6: Go ahead, sting, sting.
- 1:08:02Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: Great American Bash nineteen ninety, Baltimore, Maryland. He beat Rick
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: Flair with a roll up to win his first world title.
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: How you do it doesn't matter?
- 1:08:13Speaker 13: Yeah, and like and it doesn't have to every match
- 1:08:17Speaker 13: doesn't hit n like that, just every now and then,
- 1:08:19Speaker 13: just say it feels like anything can happen at any time.
- 1:08:23Speaker 13: You know, we don't need to have seven finishers, you know,
- 1:08:26Speaker 13: we don't need to stand finishers.
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: And in the case of Sammy's ain't like this, a
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: roll up works because it fits with a true shocking finish.
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: I don't think the moment would have resonated as much
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: if we'd had this heroes come back or big build
- 1:08:42Speaker 3: up and Cody's dangling in the corner, barely hanging on
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: and Sammy's a runs and hits him with the Louver kick.
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: He might've got maybe some hype in some cheer for
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: that moment, but I don't think it would have hit
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: as hard as the shock of just a roll up
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: out of nowhere. Granted, I think they could have picked
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: a better way of doing a roll up, because that
- 1:09:02Speaker 3: roll up looked terrible. He's got him across world, Sammy
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: drops on the floor and then you can just see
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: Cody just oh bend over, tuck his arms and like,
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: the execution of it looked bad, right, I think it may.
- 1:09:16Speaker 3: I think maybe more like a small package roll up
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: would have worked better than the way they did it there.
- 1:09:21Speaker 3: But either way, it's served the purpose of shocking the
- 1:09:25Speaker 3: fans and shocking the audience, and.
- 1:09:28Speaker 14: It makes it makes sense because Sammy isn't the toughest
- 1:09:30Speaker 14: wrestler or the strongest wrestler, or even maybe the most
- 1:09:34Speaker 14: skilled wrestler, but he's maybe the most astute or one
- 1:09:37Speaker 14: of the smarter, you know, like he's using.
- 1:09:39Speaker 6: His brains not right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw me.
- 1:09:46Speaker 5: I thought this is the match of the night. I
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: think you've got crazy.
- 1:09:51Speaker 8: I know this is just just a text under under
- 1:09:56Speaker 8: under a Roman and Phil and the mass versus match match.
- 1:09:59Speaker 5: I like the this is this is like a runner
- 1:10:02Speaker 5: of the unhonorable mention match of the year for me.
- 1:10:09Speaker 3: Would you feel that same way had Cody or guns
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: are won.
- 1:10:15Speaker 5: Probably not.
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: And that's why I can't give it that that accolades, like.
- 1:10:24Speaker 5: Just because if they went, it's a different match.
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: Right, And I get that the shot finished does elevate
- 1:10:31Speaker 3: it to an extent, but like in just for me,
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: that isn't enough to elevate it to the quite that
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: level because for me to be on that level, like
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: a match of the year, you got to deliver for
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: me from start to finish, and to me, up until
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: the finish, the match was good, but not great. The shot.
- 1:11:01Speaker 5: I'm looking at this master ginger glasses. I will freely
- 1:11:04Speaker 5: admit that.
- 1:11:07Speaker 3: But and again, really.
- 1:11:15Speaker 7: That is awesome. I've never heard that before.
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: And I mean, for for me, my thoughts coming out
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: of it were less about it was more about not
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: reflecting on the match itself, but the decision, like why
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: did they choose Sammy? Why here? Why now? I mean,
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: one obvious reason for why now is because Saudi Arabia.
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: They wanted to They wanted to capitalize on the moment
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: here as as opposed to presumably their original plan was
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: to do it at WrestleMania, but I guess they just
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: didn't want to wait that long and again they wanted
- 1:11:52Speaker 3: to shock everybody. So now, but now that we're here,
- 1:11:58Speaker 3: why now that we're here, where do we go from here?
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: With Sammy? Because he's the champion, But do people really
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: believe that he's going to be the champion for long?
- 1:12:15Speaker 5: And that?
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: And to me, now they've put them they've put themselves
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: in a in a delicate situation because if if say,
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: Sammy loses the title in like two weeks and the
- 1:12:33Speaker 3: title ends up going back on Cody or going through
- 1:12:36Speaker 3: or somebody, to me, that's gonna cheapen this whole thing.
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, y'all just did it for People are
- 1:12:43Speaker 3: gonna look back on and say they just did this
- 1:12:45Speaker 3: for a cheap pop. Yeah, you got the feel good
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: moment of Sammy's ain't being the champion. We've seen all
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: the posts from Kevin Owens and Becky Lynch and all
- 1:12:53Speaker 3: the fan reactions and all that stuff. You just did
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: it for the cheap pop. You just did it for
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: it to have another viral moment to get people.
- 1:13:00Speaker 5: We'll talk, yeah, but your question, go ahead, how do
- 1:13:03Speaker 5: you feel about how do you feel about Koffee Mania?
- 1:13:05Speaker 7: God, damn it, I was gonna ask the same thing.
- 1:13:09Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, damn, you're describing kof Mania to
- 1:13:11Speaker 6: a T because I wouldn't be surprised if next week
- 1:13:15Speaker 6: you fucking hear Sammy's like, you know what, I'll have
- 1:13:18Speaker 6: an open challenge then for the title for SummerSlam chim
- 1:13:24Speaker 6: five seconds.
- 1:13:26Speaker 3: I don't think there. Yeah no, what about their equal comparisons,
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: goofy Mania had won and a lot more build up.
- 1:13:34Speaker 3: Golfy Mania wasn't a wasn't a shock out of nowhere title.
- 1:13:39Speaker 8: What I mean, but what I'm asking is just the
- 1:13:42Speaker 8: fact that that Coofe's title Ramon kind of sucked and
- 1:13:46Speaker 8: ended Italy.
- 1:13:47Speaker 5: Does that ruin it for you?
- 1:13:49Speaker 3: In fact that it endedly? It does tat soured. Yeah,
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: It's it's like you said, like, yeah, like waitne just said,
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: it's a sour note on that run.
- 1:14:00Speaker 6: On that run, yes, because that's all you had it, But.
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: Also how long did what not saying contributed to being sour?
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: But how long was Kofe's run. KOFE at least got
- 1:14:14Speaker 3: a couple of months out, but.
- 1:14:15Speaker 6: Still like memora memorable matches and stuff from Kofe's title run,
- 1:14:20Speaker 6: though the only thing that stands out to me is
- 1:14:22Speaker 6: the beginning and the end for yeah, exactly, and and
- 1:14:27Speaker 6: I wonder.
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: It didn't have a match with Randy Orton in there
- 1:14:30Speaker 3: in between two where he kind of returned to favor
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: on the whole stupid thing that killed his initial push.
- 1:14:36Speaker 6: Okay, maybe he probably did, but it's not memorable.
- 1:14:41Speaker 5: I remember, but I don't think that was. I don't
- 1:14:44Speaker 5: think that was during his title I could be wrong
- 1:14:47Speaker 5: about that.
- 1:14:48Speaker 3: Yeah it was.
- 1:14:50Speaker 5: It was. It was Madison Square Garden Raw, but I don't.
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: Think it was Leagu's champion. That could be wrong, but.
- 1:14:57Speaker 8: I remember the match my sooner You're time, like he
- 1:15:00Speaker 8: jumps off off the guardrail, it puts them through a table.
- 1:15:07Speaker 3: Something to that. But either way, I'm still still My
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: overall point is like, I don't consider this moment with
- 1:15:17Speaker 3: Sammy's ay comparable to Kobe Media, I just don't consider
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: the two to be comparable.
- 1:15:24Speaker 5: I just meant. I just meant the does having a
- 1:15:28Speaker 5: what comes after? Does that ruin the title win?
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: Yeah? And to that point, I think you.
- 1:15:36Speaker 5: Were saying it does, and I was just asking you
- 1:15:38Speaker 5: if you also thought that about another that's all.
- 1:15:42Speaker 3: Yeah, And to fully answer that, like like I said, yes,
- 1:15:48Speaker 3: the way Kofe's title run ended did leave us our
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: taste on that rain. So yeah, how something ends does matter.
- 1:15:59Speaker 3: And also for Sammy's standpoint, if if it like I said,
- 1:16:06Speaker 3: if it's like a cheap two week title run, yeah,
- 1:16:11Speaker 3: that's really gonna put a damper on it. Now if
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: he gets a couple of months out of it, if
- 1:16:15Speaker 3: you know, if somehow he makes it past Summer Slam
- 1:16:19Speaker 3: still champion, then maybe then we may be onto something here.
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: Even if he gets to Summer Slam and has a
- 1:16:29Speaker 3: good match where he loses, I think that will work
- 1:16:34Speaker 3: to not to not dampen this moment. But if they
- 1:16:40Speaker 3: do something like I said, like have him lose the
- 1:16:43Speaker 3: title in like two weeks, like if he doesn't even
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: make it to Summer slams champion, then Yeah, that's very
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: much going to cheapen this moment. Yeah, I just somehow,
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: somehow turn into a feel good moment for everybody, despite
- 1:16:58Speaker 3: the fact that Sammy's ain't going in this match, wasn't heal. Yeah,
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: and yet the second he won, everybody just forgot all
- 1:17:05Speaker 3: about that, totally forgot he's a he was a heel.
- 1:17:12Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I feel like he's gonna when he
- 1:17:16Speaker 5: gets back, I have a feeling I.
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: Don't think so. I think he's gonna lean off. He's
- 1:17:20Speaker 3: they're gonna lean in on the field.
- 1:17:21Speaker 5: Good.
- 1:17:23Speaker 3: He'll say something about my day ones, my real fans,
- 1:17:26Speaker 3: my day ones, and you know what's gonna happen. The
- 1:17:28Speaker 3: whole fucking arena is gonna cheer like they were all
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: day ones when you lion motherfuckers were.
- 1:17:33Speaker 7: Not true because that place was that place was crickets.
- 1:17:36Speaker 7: When he first started saying, like, you know, oh my
- 1:17:39Speaker 7: Day one is my true Sammy's.
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: In the booze.
- 1:17:43Speaker 7: Yeah, he got like one cheer out of the crowd
- 1:17:48Speaker 7: that night. Not one guy behind Michael Cole.
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: Watched the first time he says that ship. The whole
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: arena is gonna pop like they like they were the
- 1:17:57Speaker 3: day ones, you thick old lion motherfuckers.
- 1:18:03Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll see, right, we have well,
- 1:18:06Speaker 5: we have a vague idea. I know Dre doesn't like
- 1:18:09Speaker 5: h spoilers.
- 1:18:10Speaker 8: I won't say any specifics, but on SmackDown there's going
- 1:18:14Speaker 8: to be a number one contenders match for Sammy's title.
- 1:18:18Speaker 3: Two weeks for a reason, and then well.
- 1:18:22Speaker 5: Yeah that mats will take place next week on Ross
- 1:18:27Speaker 5: Sammy title Sammi title. Man, they're not.
- 1:18:32Speaker 6: Someone tell me because I'm out of the loop, and
- 1:18:35Speaker 6: I think Tyler is too, but I want to be
- 1:18:37Speaker 6: in the loop. Same joke, go ahead.
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: There's no number one contentents basically on Obviously spacdaw was
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: taped after all this past Monday, and again spoiler alert,
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: jay us So I believe Confronts comes out to call
- 1:18:54Speaker 3: his shot at Sammy's ain or something to that nature.
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: But Jay Uso and Cody Rose have have a confrontation
- 1:19:01Speaker 3: in the ring, which leads to them facing each other
- 1:19:06Speaker 3: on Raw I believe next week and a number one
- 1:19:10Speaker 3: contenders match for Sammy's ains w W E title.
- 1:19:15Speaker 5: That's happened the same.
- 1:19:18Speaker 3: The same, what the the Cody and.
- 1:19:22Speaker 6: So we're definitely.
- 1:19:26Speaker 3: I think the match happens. I was just all reported
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: about they just had the confirmation they're going to have
- 1:19:31Speaker 3: the match, So who won them happened? I didn't think
- 1:19:34Speaker 3: it happened on Snake Down.
- 1:19:35Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they had the match.
- 1:19:39Speaker 6: Who won them?
- 1:19:40Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I'm getting wrong.
- 1:19:42Speaker 6: Cody, Okay, so we're gonna run Cody and Sammy the
- 1:19:51Speaker 6: balls that would take Sammy beat Cody, Well he could
- 1:19:56Speaker 6: or not.
- 1:19:56Speaker 5: Second, I'm gonna say, I'm awesout. So maybe that, uh,
- 1:20:04Speaker 5: maybe that might be an opportunity to I see if
- 1:20:07Speaker 5: it goes on the long run.
- 1:20:09Speaker 6: I hear it. I see a series of low blows.
- 1:20:14Speaker 6: That's how this man will hold his title. Low blows
- 1:20:17Speaker 6: all the way through to the top.
- 1:20:20Speaker 7: I'm talking about, like the same level of low blow
- 1:20:23Speaker 7: that Brock put on Ober.
- 1:20:25Speaker 3: Yeah you know that check you you were Yeah, I'm sorry.
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: I was just gonna say I just double checked, and
- 1:20:34Speaker 3: uh all you were correct. Uh. Cody Rose did battle
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: Jay Uzzo any number one could title Number one Contenders match,
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: which Cody Rhodes did win, And Cody Rhodes is going
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: to challenge Sammy Zaye at raw in Chicago July sixth.
- 1:20:54Speaker 5: Well, that was the next thing I was gonna get
- 1:20:55Speaker 5: you since.
- 1:20:57Speaker 3: Does that, God damn make that the SmackDown tie is
- 1:21:00Speaker 3: going to be defended on Raw in Chicago.
- 1:21:03Speaker 6: Because hold on, hold on Chicago.
- 1:21:08Speaker 15: Yeah, Philip Jerry Brook uh And the last time we
- 1:21:17Speaker 15: saw him he was was talking to Cody.
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: I could see it maybe a three way with Phil
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: Cody and and Sammy in the future.
- 1:21:26Speaker 5: Maybe or maybe maybe still ends up challenging Sammy. That
- 1:21:30Speaker 5: might be kind of fun even though they're not.
- 1:21:34Speaker 3: That feels like a real stupid, roundabout way to get there.
- 1:21:38Speaker 6: Ah, that's what is all about.
- 1:21:43Speaker 3: Post SmackDown, put it on raw, to put it fielding
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: it just so we can get see him Punk in there. Yeah.
- 1:21:52Speaker 6: Some say you have to lose.
- 1:21:54Speaker 3: Hey, Punk, now we're gonna be in what's your talk, Kansas?
- 1:21:58Speaker 3: Bring your ass?
- 1:22:00Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:22:00Speaker 6: Some say you have to win the King during tournament
- 1:22:03Speaker 6: by beating the women's champion, the current champion, to then
- 1:22:07Speaker 6: face her again for the title. So it's weird. This
- 1:22:13Speaker 6: company's fucking weir. It's very it is. You know what,
- 1:22:17Speaker 6: if you were watching wrestling like you guys were, like,
- 1:22:22Speaker 6: you know, you're watching it with your your woman, your girlfriend,
- 1:22:25Speaker 6: You're on a date whatever, your wife, and she doesn't.
- 1:22:28Speaker 6: She's not a casual watcher, right, And you're trying to
- 1:22:31Speaker 6: explain to her this, right, she's just been watching the
- 1:22:34Speaker 6: like past like two weeks or three weeks with you,
- 1:22:37Speaker 6: and you're trying to explain this to her and she goes, well, well,
- 1:22:40Speaker 6: that doesn't make sense. Why would she be in this
- 1:22:43Speaker 6: tournament which she's already the champion. And we were like,
- 1:22:46Speaker 6: but then she beat her, doesn't she get the title?
- 1:22:48Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, no, she has to beat her.
- 1:22:51Speaker 6: But it's a completely separate thing. But once she does,
- 1:22:55Speaker 6: just the face her again. But yeah, yeah, it's weird.
- 1:23:00Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:23:02Speaker 6: And then we had this guy that we have a
- 1:23:04Speaker 6: person who come in at anytime with a briefcase.
- 1:23:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:23:08Speaker 6: Sometimes explaining wrestling logic to people who don't watch wrestling
- 1:23:12Speaker 6: is always funny.
- 1:23:13Speaker 7: It's like it's like trying to explain rocket telemetry, you
- 1:23:17Speaker 7: know what I mean, Like how the how the rocket
- 1:23:19Speaker 7: is able to know where it's going and you're.
- 1:23:21Speaker 6: Like, oh, here we go.
- 1:23:24Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:23:24Speaker 6: Lately, trying and explain why wrestlers can't claim ladders.
- 1:23:30Speaker 5: They can't the thoughts on the no.
- 1:23:37Speaker 6: No, the only the only other thing I have is
- 1:23:39Speaker 6: just yeah, nothing on the pay per view. I did
- 1:23:45Speaker 6: hear like it broke a few hours ago that uh
- 1:23:50Speaker 6: former ae W wrestler as we know him as a
- 1:23:54Speaker 6: WW wrestler as Big casts AW Star Big Bill Uh
- 1:24:02Speaker 6: has been known to or he has been let go
- 1:24:06Speaker 6: from AW. His contract is out, so he is no
- 1:24:11Speaker 6: might be reuniting with Enzo amor they've been seen at
- 1:24:15Speaker 6: the performance Center.
- 1:24:17Speaker 7: I was gonna say the article I saw so that
- 1:24:19Speaker 7: he was headed to w W E. Yeah, is an
- 1:24:21Speaker 7: Enzo on TNA though?
- 1:24:24Speaker 6: Is not even with the Times, is not even wrestling correct,
- 1:24:29Speaker 6: He's not what the company currently.
- 1:24:31Speaker 5: I don't know if he's not signed to any of
- 1:24:34Speaker 5: the Big Three.
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: He appeared on t N a now too long ago?
- 1:24:39Speaker 6: Is he? Is he on TV anyway?
- 1:24:44Speaker 3: He just appeared on TNA recently, like a few weeks,
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: like a week or so ago.
- 1:24:51Speaker 6: He's uh, he appeared.
- 1:24:54Speaker 5: He appeared hanging around the bathroom at that c W show.
- 1:24:57Speaker 5: Me Andre went to h by the bathroom. I don't
- 1:25:05Speaker 5: know what the hell he was doing.
- 1:25:08Speaker 6: Bottom boom, real Sky in the room?
- 1:25:11Speaker 4: You do?
- 1:25:12Speaker 3: How you doing?
- 1:25:17Speaker 6: Man? I am excited if that's true, if they're coming back, dude,
- 1:25:22Speaker 6: But it throw throw a little. I mean, just imagine
- 1:25:25Speaker 6: the promos between them and the street profits. That's the
- 1:25:30Speaker 6: very first few. I want to see the street profits
- 1:25:33Speaker 6: and oh my god, no, the street not broke. Hey,
- 1:25:39Speaker 6: you know what, now that we're kind of down with
- 1:25:41Speaker 6: the paper, I want to bring this up to you guys.
- 1:25:43Speaker 6: What what do you guys feel about seth Rollins like
- 1:25:46Speaker 6: permanently teamed up with the street problem? Really you don't
- 1:25:54Speaker 6: like that idea at all? You don't think you don't
- 1:25:57Speaker 6: think the Vision can can try to elevate the street profits.
- 1:26:05Speaker 3: Work out for the Vision?
- 1:26:07Speaker 8: I know, well, you know, I mean, as far as
- 1:26:12Speaker 8: tag teams go, the Street Pointmas really don't have any
- 1:26:15Speaker 8: higher to go, Like five six times champions, Like what
- 1:26:20Speaker 8: else to do the team?
- 1:26:22Speaker 6: There are four times, but they've won every modern iteration
- 1:26:28Speaker 6: of the tag team titles. It's yeah, yeah, but that's
- 1:26:32Speaker 6: still that's pretty cool. I mean, uh yeah, I don't know,
- 1:26:37Speaker 6: ye what else?
- 1:26:38Speaker 8: I mean, if you've done that a couple of times,
- 1:26:40Speaker 8: what else it's there to do? You know, It's not
- 1:26:42Speaker 8: like there's an icy title to go after him.
- 1:26:45Speaker 5: Maybe win that a couple of times and then do
- 1:26:46Speaker 5: a world title and then win that a couple of times,
- 1:26:49Speaker 5: you know.
- 1:26:50Speaker 6: Like I guess.
- 1:26:55Speaker 3: I thought the pairing them up. The problem with pairing
- 1:26:57Speaker 3: them up with Seth Rollins is that they would become
- 1:27:01Speaker 3: his subordinates. They would become his millions, a downgrade for right,
- 1:27:06Speaker 3: which would be a downgrade for them. So that's why
- 1:27:08Speaker 3: I'm opposed to it.
- 1:27:10Speaker 5: They've already didn't done that, you know.
- 1:27:11Speaker 6: They did that was actually didn't really go anywhere, right, Yeah,
- 1:27:18Speaker 6: that's right.
- 1:27:20Speaker 3: Yeah, when we thought we were getting the return to
- 1:27:22Speaker 3: the hurt business, just for nothing to happen.
- 1:27:25Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it was a pretty it was. They were
- 1:27:28Speaker 7: hard using that for like weeks. Excuse me, I actually
- 1:27:36Speaker 7: I like the idea. I don't I don't know why,
- 1:27:38Speaker 7: but it tickles a fancy that I didn't know I had.
- 1:27:42Speaker 7: I could see. I maybe it's not feasible for anybody
- 1:27:46Speaker 7: else to see, but I could see Seth Ronlands being
- 1:27:48Speaker 7: a mouthpiece. Maybe he's not in a set leadership role,
- 1:27:55Speaker 7: but he works better as a mouthpiece, you know what
- 1:27:57Speaker 7: I mean, And could be that for or the trio.
- 1:28:02Speaker 7: I don't know, I just for some reason, like it
- 1:28:05Speaker 7: seems like a really interesting idea, Like maybe they're because
- 1:28:08Speaker 7: I think what wasn't the hurt business idea.
- 1:28:10Speaker 6: Owned by Bobby Lashley and MVP MVP.
- 1:28:16Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's why they were That's why they were
- 1:28:18Speaker 7: able to take They're running with it there now. So
- 1:28:22Speaker 7: I would have to wonder, like it would have to
- 1:28:25Speaker 7: be wwb's version of it, But I don't know. I
- 1:28:29Speaker 7: think he ran this idea by me the other day.
- 1:28:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:28:32Speaker 6: Yeah, I.
- 1:28:35Speaker 7: Like instead of having you know, like like your fears
- 1:28:39Speaker 7: dre is, like them becoming minions or subordinates or something
- 1:28:42Speaker 7: like that. Like if they legitimately treated it as all
- 1:28:46Speaker 7: three of them are equal, I could get on board
- 1:28:49Speaker 7: with that.
- 1:28:52Speaker 3: Not test Ford and Angela Dawkins aren't even equal. Yeah,
- 1:28:59Speaker 3: everybody seems to is the bigger star of the two.
- 1:29:02Speaker 7: Oh no, yeah, without a doubt.
- 1:29:05Speaker 3: Something you're gonna throw Seth Rollins in the mix. I
- 1:29:10Speaker 3: just don't see it.
- 1:29:12Speaker 6: Hhmm.
- 1:29:15Speaker 7: Maybe that could be like one of those if we
- 1:29:18Speaker 7: I don't know how how far Wayne would like to
- 1:29:21Speaker 7: expand his uh bracketology.
- 1:29:25Speaker 5: Games.
- 1:29:26Speaker 7: Maybe that's when we could throw throw up there like
- 1:29:28Speaker 7: dream factions that will probably never be you know what
- 1:29:31Speaker 7: I mean, like Seth and the Street profits. I don't know,
- 1:29:34Speaker 7: I think they could go on a pretty good tear.
- 1:29:42Speaker 5: Well.
- 1:29:42Speaker 6: I mean to be honest, I think the next backet
- 1:29:44Speaker 6: I want to work on is the uh crazy ship
- 1:29:49Speaker 6: Vincent Man has done. And then I want to I
- 1:29:52Speaker 6: want to break it down to it's the craziest thing
- 1:29:54Speaker 6: Vince has done. And I know that because there's so
- 1:29:57Speaker 6: many things we're gonna put it. That's the thing is, like,
- 1:29:59Speaker 6: there's so many things that he has done, and I
- 1:30:01Speaker 6: want to do I want to include real things, and
- 1:30:05Speaker 6: I want to include things that he's done on the air.
- 1:30:08Speaker 6: So yeah, I want to include all things. God damn it.
- 1:30:16Speaker 5: So hm Uh.
- 1:30:19Speaker 6: The reason why this episode came out I didn't mention
- 1:30:21Speaker 6: that kick off the show came out early is because, Uh,
- 1:30:26Speaker 6: I'm going on vacation to ma So going down to
- 1:30:28Speaker 6: the beach at City, Maryland. I'm taking mister Coffee over there. Uh,
- 1:30:35Speaker 6: I'm taking him, uh, some other friends, my girlfriend. It's
- 1:30:40Speaker 6: gonna be fun. We're gonna spend a couple of days
- 1:30:42Speaker 6: down there. I'm gonna get nice tan, get some sunburn
- 1:30:46Speaker 6: tan and a sunburn. We're gonna hit the music, gonna
- 1:30:50Speaker 6: hit the boardwalk, you know, gonna hit the water parks.
- 1:30:55Speaker 6: It's gonna be fun, and it's supposed to be super
- 1:30:57Speaker 6: hot like here in Pennsylvania, and it's weird. I checked
- 1:31:02Speaker 6: the weather for like the next few days, Like the
- 1:31:05Speaker 6: hottest is going to be is like ninety degrees on
- 1:31:07Speaker 6: July fourth in Maryland. So the rest of the time
- 1:31:10Speaker 6: it's going to be in like the mid eighties. So
- 1:31:13Speaker 6: I feel bad at all club down there. Secret, Dude,
- 1:31:19Speaker 6: I'm going to Secrets. I was thinking about going to Secrets.
- 1:31:26Speaker 6: I was like, I always see it, and I'm like, man,
- 1:31:28Speaker 6: sitting out in the bay and getting your food and
- 1:31:31Speaker 6: your drinks taking out to you. I'm like, is that
- 1:31:33Speaker 6: a good thing? Is that a good place?
- 1:31:35Speaker 4: Like?
- 1:31:35Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:31:36Speaker 6: I'm trying to be smart this year, Doyle. I'm trying
- 1:31:38Speaker 6: to park like close to the bridge at.
- 1:31:40Speaker 5: Night when I've only been there at night when it's
- 1:31:42Speaker 5: like club night. It's fucking horrible.
- 1:31:44Speaker 6: Uh Na, I seeah, I'm not trying to go to
- 1:31:46Speaker 6: that club night. I'm trying to go there like, you know,
- 1:31:49Speaker 6: like six pm, right as the sun's trying to go
- 1:31:51Speaker 6: down and then the fireworks display starts. But uh, you know,
- 1:31:54Speaker 6: there's a couple other places down there.
- 1:31:56Speaker 5: I can't remember what it's called though.
- 1:31:58Speaker 6: That's it. I don't know, but next episode, I'll let
- 1:32:02Speaker 6: you know where we went. Uh if there's do you
- 1:32:06Speaker 6: know what, there's always like cool when you go out
- 1:32:09Speaker 6: to the Boardwalk, there's always like cool wrestling shirts, and
- 1:32:13Speaker 6: there's always like knockoff wrestling shirts. And I always think
- 1:32:16Speaker 6: they're fucking hilarious because they'll like they'll be super outdated,
- 1:32:20Speaker 6: you know, or they'll have scenes that are inaccurate, or
- 1:32:25Speaker 6: I don't know. It's always fun.
- 1:32:27Speaker 7: They go they gonna spell roads and it's R I
- 1:32:30Speaker 7: O D. Yeah, it is a road shirt.
- 1:32:34Speaker 6: The Boardwalk always has interesting wrestling things. I never buy.
- 1:32:37Speaker 6: I never buy, but I'm always like getting a kind
- 1:32:42Speaker 6: of a giggle every time I see just like a
- 1:32:43Speaker 6: fucking shirt, just like a random shirt, no words on it.
- 1:32:46Speaker 6: It just has like a picture of like Goldberg's face.
- 1:32:49Speaker 6: What the fuck? No words on it at all, just
- 1:32:53Speaker 6: a picture of Goldberg's face, just like, Okay, no.
- 1:32:56Speaker 7: You know who else I've seen on shirts like that
- 1:32:57Speaker 7: a lot, what Big Papa Pump. Oh, yeah, I've seen
- 1:33:03Speaker 7: like that always the glasses and the chain mail and everything.
- 1:33:08Speaker 6: Yeah, did you just hold on?
- 1:33:11Speaker 7: Speaking of did anybody see his son get drafted to
- 1:33:14Speaker 7: the Saints. This is I know, this is the draft
- 1:33:17Speaker 7: happened a while ago, and we're talking about something completely different.
- 1:33:20Speaker 4: Now.
- 1:33:21Speaker 6: Oh wait, yes I did.
- 1:33:22Speaker 7: I saw he got drafted to the Saints.
- 1:33:24Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:33:25Speaker 7: Yeah, they they showed him like in his first Saints
- 1:33:30Speaker 7: uniform and everything like that. And of course this bean
- 1:33:33Speaker 7: pole of a freaking kid, which, hey, you got more
- 1:33:36Speaker 7: talent than I do, so you own it. He's got
- 1:33:40Speaker 7: the pads on, but then he's got the chain mail,
- 1:33:42Speaker 7: and he's got the glasses and the original, the original
- 1:33:46Speaker 7: Championship one on top of all of his football gear.
- 1:33:51Speaker 7: And when I say, when I say, this kid is
- 1:33:53Speaker 7: a bean pole, like, it looked so odd on him
- 1:33:55Speaker 7: because you know where that visually goes, you know what
- 1:33:59Speaker 7: I mean. So it was just a disconnects.
- 1:34:02Speaker 6: It's like when a child is going to war and
- 1:34:04Speaker 6: they hold a shield up. It's like, am I hit?
- 1:34:08Speaker 6: I was like, no, you look fucking hilarious though adorable,
- 1:34:12Speaker 6: you know. Uh. Oh I saw aj Styles showed up
- 1:34:16Speaker 6: to his son's first wrestling match.
- 1:34:19Speaker 16: Oh yeah, that was pretty cool to see. Yeah, he
- 1:34:21Speaker 16: does this his his son does this cool move. I
- 1:34:26Speaker 16: don't know where I saw it ring off the barricade.
- 1:34:29Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:34:29Speaker 6: Yeah, he goes to iron swipt him into the barricade,
- 1:34:31Speaker 6: but he slides under the barricade.
- 1:34:34Speaker 7: Yep, that was pretty sick.
- 1:34:35Speaker 6: I was like, ah, nice and disgusting. I don't ever
- 1:34:42Speaker 6: want to be on the floor out of wrestling run.
- 1:34:45Speaker 6: That's probably the one of the on in a high
- 1:34:48Speaker 6: school gym, in a high school gym with no shirt on,
- 1:34:51Speaker 6: no thank you, hard pass, but I was impressed. Uh,
- 1:34:56Speaker 6: that's all I got, Doyle. He won't play anything.
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